ILX Parenting 3: Back In (Potty) Training

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Well done, Megan!

I like that sink, by the way. I like the way it has little nooks in it to balance your fag on, like an ashtray.

Perhaps I will post a picture:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2195/2080713204_0732b71866.jpg

Or two:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2132/2079930071_25f7dc3a83.jpg

PJ Miller, Friday, 7 December 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Meg, you were still nightfeeding at nine months?!? Once they pass the five kilos, babies don't need nocturnal feedings, the only reason they want it is for comfort. Not saying you shouldn't! Just what the "experts" claim. :-) O slept through the night from 4 months (the second night I put her in her own room). I had already started giving her less milk before that.
Liesje has a patter: 2 am and 5 am. During the day she goes from 2 hrs to 4 hrs between feedings. But I am gently trying to teach her the difference between day and night: In the evening I put her in her crib.

I can't wait for a good night's rest. I am doing okay, but some daaaazzzze. :-)

At the check-up today. She's five weeks, 5 kilos 300 and 57,5 cm. Hurrah!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/2093597264_f76b5a83b9.jpg

stevienixed, Friday, 7 December 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, you know, I'm OK with giving a baby the breast for comfort as well as food :-)

But he has shown the past few nights that he's fine without it and can settle himself pretty easily now. I'm glad I waited til I was sure he was ready -- after all, it's such a short time in the scheme of things.

Meg Busset, Friday, 7 December 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Both of 'em riding their "Mater" (from Cars):

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2080/2098414149_7b841bedc4.jpg

schwantz, Monday, 10 December 2007 02:46 (sixteen years ago) link

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2032/2097791829_de54c6eb37.jpg

PJ Miller, Monday, 10 December 2007 11:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I have to go and look at nurseries. I don't know what to say or ask or anything.

PJ Miller, Monday, 10 December 2007 11:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Edith is looking like a little girl and not a baby any more, yikes. Still adorable of course :)

Alice turns one on friday. I can't believe it!

Archel, Monday, 10 December 2007 12:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I have to go and look at nurseries. I don't know what to say or ask or anything.

-- PJ Miller, Monday, 10 December 2007 11:07 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

Really difficult but I would say look at the other kids first off, if they are happy then that's a good start. The nursery leader will probably give you a load of guff about learning and goals and so on. But ask yourself what you want your child to get out of it. If it's what we wanted, i.e. that they get to socialise, play, and be safe then the best thing you can do is check out the state of the toys and washrooms (but you know, don't expect everything to be super clean and new (in fact if it is that's slightly suspicious, like they only get the toys out when parents visit).

I have to state an interest here. I am a treasurer for a playgroup and we get some parents who think that playgroups should be hothouses for little geniuses (which, you will not be surprised to hear, their kids usually are). Well, it's pretty easy to tell those parents what they want to hear. It's much more difficult to make the kids look happy!

Oh and surprise visits are best.

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 10 December 2007 13:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Having a second kid does this:

http://www.democracycellproject.net/blog/archives/050315_scream_vmed12p.widec.jpg

nathalie, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 10:35 (sixteen years ago) link

At least it was yesterday. Child 2 came home having been told off by the head teacher (for something he didn't do - of course!) and proceeded to stomp upstairs with his muddy boots on and then stood on a sofa in them and then - when I proceeded to tell him this was not good behaviour - ran out of the house shouting "I'm never coming back!". Thus setting child 2 off crying and shouting "Daddy, you're so mean! We want mummy...".

Oh joy...

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 11:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyway, sorry Nathelie, getting carried away with my woes - what's up?

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 11:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh god, I was exaggerating a bit. But headaches are no fun and sleep deprivation neither. But apart from that, kids are the bestest thing in the world. :-)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2127/2097740845_ff9857c4ae.jpg

Ophelia displayed mild displeasure at the relax chair. Very strange: before that she never did/said anything negative about Liesje. But the relax chair? She didn't like it.

nathalie, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 12:11 (sixteen years ago) link

ugh!

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 13:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Aww Alex!

Mark C, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Thank you for the advice.

Yes, she is quite grown up, Archel. Today she has been pretending to be a dog. And well done on almost getting through your first year.

PJ Miller, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Ben and Owen have started to "play" the recorder and the harmonica this week, despite crippling and parent-maddening colds. It's pretty cute. Owen even got the whole "blow in for one note, blow out for another" concept on the harmonica.

My wife is sure they are musical prodigies now. ;)

And sorry Alex - that sounds like a really shitty experience, and like something I could easily imagine myself doing.

schwantz, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

For those of you keeping score, an update.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 15 December 2007 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow look at O standing there looking like a little girl. It seems like just yesterday she was the size of Liesje.

Here is Beeps being Beeps:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3520/cutielq8.jpg

sunny successor, Monday, 17 December 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

and Beeps being Maximum Beeps:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8973/jumpinob7.jpg

sunny successor, Monday, 17 December 2007 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey before you know it, Beeps will be grabbing EVERYTHING in sight, jumping from chairs, screaming, crying one minute, laughing the next,... Yes, Ophelia has officially entered manic two year old phaaazzze. I find it quite funny to be honest, but it can do your head in if you are tired and/or have a headache. :-)

The doctor at the check-up (for Liesje) said Ophelia was GREBT in the language department. Apparently at her age it's not that uncommon for kids to only speak a few words. Ophelia? Hell no, she's a motormouth. :-)

The only minor problem: food. She's totally using it as a control thing. But I don't let it bother me too much. She'll eat veggies eventually. :-)

Liesje now only wakes up (for a feeding) once a night. With Ophelia I was so quick to shove my nipple in her mouth, but with Liesje I am more relaxed and will just wait a bit longer, I guess. Result? She wakes up around 12 am but falls back asleep. So yes, wakes up about once, around 3-ish, for a feeding. Hurray. :-)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2397/2098520190_401e75e4e0_m.jpg

stevienixed, Monday, 17 December 2007 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link

"omg it's my birthday!"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2017/2120653348_b566abd12f.jpg?v=1197989150

"and i have CAKE!"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2234/2119875759_3ee93a9ae4.jpg?v=0

Archel, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Yay! Happy Birthday, Alice!

Nath, O's top is great! Where did you get it?

sunny successor, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Jumping the gun a bit, cos this isn't really viewable on Flickr yet, but here's our 13-month-old, MMR-jabbed, Tot of the Antarctic...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2315/2119510892_d68f5f76d0.jpg

She's started the slapping and pulling of Daddy's face that made that 12-18 month period with Ava such a joy. Except Tallulah is stronger than Ava ever was.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

It's been too long since I've visited here, lots of amazing pictures of everybody's beauteous youngsters! congrats to rachel on the first year, and good to see alice has conquered that love-of-cake milestone. alex, it appears that your trike-busting moment has made everybody a winner, that new one is the bomb!

peter, I have also been looking at nurseries, plenty of them. today is the deadline in our borough for ava's september admission next year, which doesn't really suit my last-minute-for-everything mentality, but I've put in applications for a few and we'll see who's a taker. I've been reading ofsteds, hanging out next to the parents on the tours who actually bring notepads and ask all the questions I never thought of, worrying way too much. one nursery I like has the kids tending allotments and then cooking everything at the end of term, cool! there are loads of schools around us and they're all oversubscribed, except for the one that's spitting distance from our house that has a rep for being terribly mismanaged and chocka with bullies. I know the kids can't read it but the cover letter of the booklet inviting us to let them start teaching our kids great english skills was heaving with misspellings and typos! one of my best friends taught there for years and actually pulled her kids out of there while she was working there.

I am trying not to lose sleep over ava's future by just chilling out already through the medium of christmas crafting!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2305/2118643135_b04db7caa5.jpg

craft ho, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 11:00 (sixteen years ago) link

We're going to enroll Ophelia in a nearby kindergarten. It's a catholic school. Later on, if she stays, she'll have to wear a uniform, or rather wear blues/browns/blacks and or greys. Suits me fine. Actually I wish there was a strict uniform, but somewhere between my graduation and 2007, they changed the rules: there's no strict uniform in any school in Bruges. Bummah. But I suspect my daughters won't have the same idea as I have when it comes to uniforms. Even when I attended high school, I was very much in favour of uniforms. Yes, I'm a complete mentalist. :-)

Nath, O's top is great! Where did you get it?

From the Gap (Japan). My parents have EXCELLENT taste in clothes and are so nice to send/give me lots of kiddie clothes. :-)

nathalie, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 11:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Hopefully Shakey Mo doesn't mind that I post that Veronica Rose was born yesterday!

schwantz, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link

oooo! congrats! beautiful name too!!

sunny successor, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I am not aware of any deadline for enrolling here, just waiting lists.

Sorry, that is about all I can manage at this time of day, which is the only time of day I can fit in quality typing time.

Yay everybody, etc.

PJ Miller, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Baby born! Little Veronica Rose Babcock arrived yesterday, 7lbs 12 oz, 19" long - no pictures yet, don't have 'em uploaded anywhere. I'm home briefly dealing with some computer bullshit and then its back to the hospital to help mom and baby recuperate....

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Hurrah for new baby with my birthday! Also, lovely name.

ailsa, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Rah new baby!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

photos asap pls!

sunny successor, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

woo new baby, what a great holiday present!

craft ho, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Awesome, congratulations - and I love the name!

Sara R-C, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^Agreed, awesome name! Congratulations!

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Yay! Congrats!

stevienixed, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Nice work, people. Molly says hello, I hope this picture isn't too big:
http://i15.tinypic.com/6t24aab.jpg

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 20 December 2007 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link

She turned one last week.

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 20 December 2007 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link

happy birthday, molly. she sure is beautiful.

sunny successor, Thursday, 20 December 2007 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, like YOU should talk, what with your Beeps lighting up the world and whatnot!

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 20 December 2007 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

awww! so sweet!

sunny successor, Thursday, 20 December 2007 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Happy birthday Alice and Molly, and happy birth-day Veronica Rose (what a beautiful name).

Nath, I too am in favour of uniforms -- they prevent kids from getting beaten up for wearing the wrong trainers/trousers/whatever.

Howie can pull himself to standing now <proud>

Meg Busset, Thursday, 20 December 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link

The other day, Ben and Owen were standing up next to each other, holding on to a chair. After some coaxing, Ben walked across the room to us, and we clapped for him. Then, Owen let go of the chair tentatively, and then burst into tears because he was too afraid to try to walk. :(

Hopefully he'll get it soon. He's way ahead of Ben in the talking department (by the way, nothing's better than arriving home to the sounds of "daddy, daddy!"), but behind in walking.

schwantz, Thursday, 20 December 2007 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Aw, Owen!

they prevent kids from getting beaten up for wearing the wrong trainers/trousers/whatever.

True, but there are also different kinds of uniform and this (in my experience, poor Madchen) does lead to bullying. Seriously stupid stuff like silver vs. plastic buttons on a blazer. If they want to pick on you they'll find something.

Madchen, Friday, 21 December 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

PS: Your actual potty training is scheduled to start tomorrow.

PJ Miller, Friday, 21 December 2007 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

nothing prevents kids from picking on other kids, gimme a break

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 21 December 2007 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Hello parenting thread peoples. I have a question to ask, on behalf of my sister really. Our mother died unexpectedly yesterday, and we have so far bottled out of trying to explain this to my neice, who is two and a half. We have no idea how to approach this. My sister is not religious in any way and we don't want to lie to my neice or say anything that might confuse her, such as that my mother is 'sleeping' or has simply gone away. On the other hand she has no previous experience to draw on, there's no book she has that we can point to and say 'it's like that'. Does anyone have any useful experience they can pass on? It's getting harder to pretend everything is OK.

Zora, Saturday, 22 December 2007 12:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I have no useful advice, but would like to offer my condolences.

ailsa, Saturday, 22 December 2007 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link


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