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Here is our method:

At around 7, we feed them a big bottle of breast milk each (twins). Then, at 8:30, we bathe them (and blow-dry them - they love that!). Finally, one more feeding, swaddling (this is key - you may THINK they don't like to be swaddles, but they probably do), and some holding until they start to drift off. They usually sleep 6 hours after all that.

― schwantz (schwantz), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 03:08 (nineteen years ago)

My first LOVED swaddling! They should make big giant Ace bandages for it.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

Even better - the Kiddopotamus!

http://www.kiddopotamus.com/p_swad.php

― schwantz (schwantz), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

Those don't look very snug to me. I'm talking total larva look.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

Or cocoon, rather. Not saying my kid was a maggot.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

happy birthday ophelia!

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

awww happy 1st, O

― sunny successor agrees: gay dad always trumps slutty mom (katharine), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

feliz cumpleanos Ophelia! Has this year flown by Nath?

― Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Happy birthday!

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

Happy birthday Ophelia!

Alice is in a fairly predictable routine now - unfortunately it's a routine that involves sleeping all day (waking briefly for feeds every 4 to 5 hours), screaming incessantly for no discernable reason between about 7pm and 9pm, then feeding every 2 to 3 hours at night without always going back to sleep properly in between. Any tips for reversing this pattern so the long sleeps are at night? (Oh and ideally for losing the evening screams altogether, of course).

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Happy birthday Ophelia! xxxx

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Update: Alice has NOT had her evening screams today! Fingers crossed.

At 1 month:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/359488580_4588011fcd.jpg?v=0

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

You ask, you get:
http://www.douglasandlisa.com/sterling/s132.html

More, of course, at sterlingwolk dot com.

― Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

Whoops, make that:

http://www.douglasandlisa.com/sterling/s132.jpg

― Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/359826283_b053b4596c.jpg

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/154/357321988_5c83950a43.jpg

― schwantz (schwantz), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

That's four beauties in a row right there. I'd missed Sterling! Will bookmark your website, Douglas.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Y'all have made my week. Please for to smooch each pictured baby for me (and also the twin wot was not pictured.)

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

well, ian is too big for swadding (6 1/2 months, over 18 pounds, and 30 inches long) now, but he liked it when he was little. last night went better, he only woke up once. it was a long wake and a long cry though (45 minutes) at the end of which we had to break down and feed him. he fell right back asleep though and didn't get up until 7. this is the best sleeping he's done since he was born.

he started crawling (and standing up) in the past two weeks:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_9fU1wm-nLUU/Ra0nWYcOEfI/AAAAAAAAADw/tHH57iLb0t8/s1600-h/DSCF1475.JPG

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

er, make that:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_9fU1wm-nLUU/Ra0nWYcOEfI/AAAAAAAAADw/tHH57iLb0t8/s320/DSCF1475.JPG

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

Oh! The babies are so sweet today for Ophelia's birthday!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

Tallulah in her biker boots and ye-ye dress:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/130/356265761_f3e181c6b9.jpg

Ava and Edith browse hat catalogues:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/356276740_c663cb3d97.jpg

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm on duty tonight - come on, Tallulah, you can make it until 7am...)

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

Well, did she make it?

Alice was up at 3 and 6, unfortunately.

Tallulah has got so big and bonny considering how little she was to start with. Amazing!

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 07:20 (nineteen years ago)

She made it to 7:02am! Uncanny. However, Ava started screaming at 4:15 and would not settle in her cot, so we had the big girl('s blouse) sleeping with us (or babbling, bouncing and poking us) for those precious three hours when we ought to have been snoozing in peace. Perhaps it was the high winds that disturbed her. I was dreaming about having to spend £75 on eBay on an illuminated perspex Union Jack for work, so I thought that was what was distressing her.

Still, it's a good sign that the little one is ready to go through the night at 11 weeks.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 08:13 (nineteen years ago)

screaming incessantly for no discernable reason between about 7pm and 9pm

Oh no, this is perfectly normal: Babies often cry at the end of the day because of the tiring day they had. :-)

The year just flew by. I can still remember putting her in the crib next to us, worrying and stroking her bald head. Now she sits beside me taking all the ribbons out of the box (in the shop) saying "dadada." She's been such an easy baby. This and a crap memory - so I can't remember that well how I walked around like a zombie - make you long for a second one. :-)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/154/359277623_a788cccf35.jpg?v=0

opening up her presents. not all because the real party is on sunday.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

It has just occurred to me that Alice's head is totally Matt-shaped. I always thought of family resemblances being in various parts of the face, but not the whole head!

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

So the bloody doctor - who made me worry about her head circumference a while ago - told me she heard a heart murmur but "not to worry." Ok, the bloody woman is 8 months pregnant, she must have some motherly instincts by now. DOES SHE NOT KNOW THAT NOT WORRYING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A MOTHER! I mean, WHAT THE FUCK, woman, you did this one time, why TWO TIMES? I reeeeeeeaaaaaallllllly hope I'm right and she's hard of hearing due to big pregnant belly but y'know how it goes... I cried of course once I got home. I know that it's a minor thing and usually they don't operate at all, but HOW CAN I NOT FUCKING WORRY? She was banging on about the big head again and I wanted to smash her head in yelling:"WTF are you on, I did an ultrasound and they found NOTHING, you bleeding b*tch." I should not have gone to that (free) government healthcare center. Ophelia's private doctor had advised me not to go cause the doctors are not properly trained (usually *general MDs* instead of pediatricians) so they know shit about these things. God, I hope he doesn't hear anything...

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

so you're going to follow up with a different doctor?

― Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Edith has got a cold. Fortunately, her friends Quack Quack and Rufo the Dog have got the sniffles too, which helps to keep her spirits up.

Happy birthday, Ophelia. It looks like her present was a dog's bottom.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Nath, you poor thing! You SHOULD go back to your private doctor and tell him this stuff—he needs to set your mind at ease, and he also needs to know the reasons you went to the clinic, whether it was the high cost of going to him, or his lack of available time. We are all too hesitant to confront doctors about that stuff.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

i had a heart murmur when i was born and it was there until I was 10 or so. they initially told my parents i'd need open heart surgery or i'd die; they got a second opinion, luckily. the murmur just got more feint the older I got and went away. so, get a second opinion. it's probably nothing.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

I went to her private doctor (who's far off, so need to travel about an hour to get there). He said it was NOTHING. Oh god, I'm so relieved. :-))))))))))))))) He said it was just EXTREMELY minor murmur! Not even.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Nath - my sister had a slight heart murmur when she was born - it had cleared itself up naturally very very quickly, apparently it's not all that uncommon, just rarely spotted, if you see what I mean.

― Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Fabulous, Nath! Now you tell that doctor to move his office!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Glad O is ok!

We're going up to London today so Alice can be assessed for her lip surgery. I was kind of dreading it, not least because she's having a growth spurt and was feeding almost every hour yesterday and screaming in between - even less fun on the move than at home. But she had quite a good night so now I'm just worried about the severe weather conditions that have been forecast...

And yeah, Alice is totally starting to look like Matt :)

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 22 January 2007 06:53 (nineteen years ago)

Good news, Nath.

Good luck, Archie.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

I just love the picture of Edith and Ava in hats. LOVE it.

― luna (luna.c), Monday, 22 January 2007 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Well, Alice coped with her trip to the clinic a lot better than I did, in the end. She was as good as gold all the way there and while being poked and prodded by the cleft surgeon and the orthodontist, although she did squirm a bit when the latter took a mould of her mouth and who can blame her. She now has to wear a ridiculously low-tech contraption made from sticky tape and a rubber band across her lip to get her muscles ready for the surgery (scheduled for April 5th), and will also have a plate inside her mouth which will be fitted next week (so *another* trip to London.)

It all makes her 'problem' seem much more real, somehow, now the medical and surgical teams are so visibly involved. And surgery is always scary even when it's so relatively minor.

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, bless her. Good luck with everything.

Ava has entered a slightly worrying mini-phase of waking up every night between midnight and 2am and NOT being soothed and NOT going back to her own room. Two of these nights were unfortunately at my parents, when all four of us were sharing my old bedroom (two singles jammed together, travel cot, pillows and blankets on the floor for Tallulah) - an absolute nightmare as we struggled to keep her from slipping down the gap between the single beds and restraining her from pouncing on her unprotected sister in the darkness. The irony is that Tallulah is finally sleeping through the night.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

Oh lordy, Archel—you have to get her to wear that thing for 2+ months? I wish you could explain things to her!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

At this point she just thinks it's normal I suppose, one more in the endless series of exciting new experiences that her life consists of. She doesn't seem distressed by it at all anyway (although I don't think she'll be as happy with the plate).

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/175/367164199_9b2350a571.jpg?v=0

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, bless, she does look really like Matt, doesn't she?

In six weeks time I'm going to see my niece for the first time. She's nearly three!

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

awww...sweetpea! is that sheepskin, archel?

in the best news of my pregnancy so far (except for the fact that it has been completely drama free - thank you gods of unborn bebes!) my OB thinks i shouldn't breastfeed. weeee!

i still might, but official permission/recommendation not to sure takes the pressure off.

― sunny successor agrees: gay dad always trumps slutty mom (katharine), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

Why shouldn't you, if you don't mind me asking?

(Our Sarah was not breastfed, btw, so I'm not all 'YOU SHOULD DO THIS' by any means.)

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

He doesn't think I'll make it through the first two weeks due to my fear of it because, for it to be successful, you need to be really motivated which I REALLY am not. Quite the opposite. With formulas being so good these days, he doesn't think its worth the drama for me or the kid.

― sunny successor agrees: gay dad always trumps slutty mom (katharine), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

Trust me, I was MOANING so much! But I made it through, and strangely my husband and friends as well, even though they must have suffered a lot. It hurts, oh boy does it hurt if you haven't prepared, but it's so rewarding and ultimately it's so EASY. No need to clean/prepare bottles. Like Trinny and Susan (?) say: get your tits out! But I can understand your fear. It's easy to say now, for me, but it's such an amazing experience (after you suffered those first couple of weeks). :-) That said, if you're not up for it, well, don't do it! :-) Nothing wrong with bottle feeding at all. Y'know, scratch what I said. Do what YOU feel is right. :-) Don't listen to - as my friend calls'em -the breastfeeding mafia. ;-)

Archel, good luck with everything!!!

I'm leaving for Japan on the 1st of February. Yep, plane. Urgh. I'm so not looking forward to that. But I hope Ophelia won't mind. :-)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/367383512_0a4682ebf7.jpg?v=0

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

now ive been told i don't have to do it by someone official, i dont feel bullied, so ill most likely try it. MAYBE.

how long is the plane trip?

― sunny successor agrees: gay dad always trumps slutty mom (katharine), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

Ready to take on the world:
http://www.douglasandlisa.com/sterling/s147.jpg

― Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

Y'know, that's what made it easier for me. When I stopped and realized the choice was up to *me*, it suddenly became a lot easier. Those nurses at the hospital really bullied me. I mean, it didn't seem to exist, formula feeding. If you'd like to give it a shot, take the advice of my friend (which I sadly didn't follow) and prepare your nippled! She only had FIVE days of slight discomfort! Argh, HELL, I'm doing it as well: pushing you. :-( Sorry.

Plane? About 11 hrs 40 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No sleep till Tokyo (for mummy I phear).

Like all other ILXOr kids: what a beauty!!!

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

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