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So who is gonna do this with me?

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2012/01/learn_to_program_make_a_free_weekly_coding_lesson_your_new_year_s_resolution_.html

It starts on the 9th.

Mordy, Friday, 6 January 2012 04:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

4 sure. where's hoos.

iatee, Friday, 6 January 2012 04:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm in.

emil.y, Friday, 6 January 2012 20:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

finished the first lesson + the Fizzing and Buzzing thing!

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

I will do this later tonight

iatee, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm in. First lesson on tap for tomorrow.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 04:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

Just finished the first lesson, but FizzBuzz looks too complicated for this time of night. Not sure quite how well I'll do, but it wasn't too bad so far.

emil.y, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 04:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

I like this so far I'm on lesson 6 - I dunno if you're supposed to do them one per day or as a bunch?

iatee, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 04:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm doing this too!

kinder, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 06:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm in too!

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 06:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

Awesome, I'm on this thing too. Now I hope I can do this for a year...

Jibe, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 07:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

I just signed up but I've missed the first lesson. Is there a way of catching up?

nate woolls, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

on codeacademy.com there's a tab on top called Courses. I think you can find the first week's worth of stuff there.

Jibe, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

(I'm guessing that's the first week, which you end with that FizzBuzz exercise)

Jibe, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ah ok thanks, I'll check it out.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 12:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

My Javascript isn't up to much so I might give this a go.

My new job may involve using it a bit more, I'm not sure yet.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 12:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm in, I fiddle a bit with JQuery, but learning standard Javascript is something I should learn.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol so I'm already stuck on fizzbuzz p2. what's going wrong here?

// Write a statement that decides if the variable `i` is divisible by 3.

// for the numbers 1 through 20,
for ( i=1; i<=20; i++) {

// if the number is divisible by 3, write "Fizz"
if ( i%3=0 ) {
console.log("Fizz");
}

// otherwise, write just the number
else {i

}
}

iatee, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://learncodethehardway.org/

the marijuanaut farmer (am0n), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

xpost try
else {console.log(i)}}

?

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

why are you using console.log() in only one of the conditional clauses?

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

cause I tried the other way too and it didn't work!

iatee, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

if ( i%3=0 )

Take a look back at this lesson page
http://www.codecademy.com/courses/programming-intro/5#!/exercises/0

and console yourself with the knowledge that this is probably the #1 most common and annoying bug in programming a C-like language

Schleimpilz im Labyrinth (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

(that was me trying not to spell the answer out completely but I possibly just succeeded in sounding vague and dickish so if need be I'll be more direct)

Schleimpilz im Labyrinth (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha ty

iatee, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

you need double equal sign ==

the marijuanaut farmer (am0n), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha lol I completely glossed over that

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

triple even? they said there was a difference between double and triple

iatee, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

triple double check

the marijuanaut farmer (am0n), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

hah I didn't even think about == which is really dumb of me since I am writing Python code today. Told you my Javascript sucks.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm sure this is gonna get really annoying for ppl who actually program but I'm finding it fun / pretty well-designed so far

iatee, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i was enjoying myself doing this. but now i'm kind of going insane being stuck at the part where you have to make 15=fizzbuzz.

Jibe, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Spoilers:

____________
if {
15 'fizzbuzz' bit
}
else {
everything else
}
____________

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

there's another week before new material so it's not horrible to be stuck for a while and think it over. I like that it's not patronizing enough to make us do super easy stuff for hours at a time but at the same time you sorta need to repeat something a lot of times / ponder over it in order to really get it in your head.

iatee, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

i agree. my only concern is what happens if you legitimately get stuck and can't really see where you're going wrong/what needs to be done? i'm glad to see there are ppl here who can help but they might get bored of answering simple requests. you can probably google the answers too and thus get the right one without really understanding why its right and why you were messing up.

Jibe, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm sure this is gonna get really annoying for ppl who actually program but I'm finding it fun / pretty well-designed so far

― iatee, Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:46 AM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah this is fun!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

i'm glad to see there are ppl here who can help but they might get bored of answering simple requests. you can probably google the answers too and thus get the right one without really understanding why its right and why you were messing up.

― Jibe, Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:08 AM (13 minutes ago)

firefox -> tools -> web developer -> error console

the marijuanaut farmer (am0n), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

we'll see how it goes I guess. I like the pace so far, and w/ a group of people doing it I could see it working?

also I don't think we'll be encountering any 'higher level thinking skills' problems for a long time, right now it's just 'how do we format this'

xp

iatee, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

or firebug

the marijuanaut farmer (am0n), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

if it consoles u (punz, lol) iatee, i forgot about the === entirely and originally wrote ( i % 3 is 0 ). imagine my shock when they didn't recognize the 'is' syntax.

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

Okay, I'm stuck on the "Fizzbuzz". I could code it so that for the iteration of 15 it says FizzBuzz, but I'd prefer to code it so that it would check for any numbers divisible by both 3 and 5 (so, for instance, if I changed the count length it would still work and say FizzBuzz in the right place). But I can't work out how to do it.

emil.y, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think "and" is && in Javascript if that helps?

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

SPOILER TAGZ

for ( i % 3 === 0 ) {
for (i % 5 === 0 ) {
console.log ("Fizzbuzz");
}
else {
console.log ("Fizz");
}

^^ I think that's how I did it.

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

fizzbuzz done!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

the second for should be an if i think

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i did an &&

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

emily, you can nest one if/else inside another if/else. if that helps?

vision creation newgod (c sharp major), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

^ that's what i did

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

Thanks guys. I tried "&" but I don't think any of the lessons had mentioned "&&" before. I was so close!

I think their preferred method was nesting, but the && trick seemed more natural to me?

emil.y, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm still stuck on buzz tbh

I keep toying around with } and { everywhere

iatee, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

anyone still doing this?

Does it have C#?

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

I dipped in when they added Python, but I'm not really "still doing it".

No C#: it has Javascript, Python, Ruby, and web stuffs (HTML, CSS, jquery). Think I finished the JS and the Python, dipped into the HTML/CSS but got bored early on, haven't tried jQuery or Ruby.

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 16:18 (six years ago) Permalink

I need to get into this again got lazy/busy

if anyone wants to join me for python it's easier w/ a motivation buddy

iatee, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 16:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I still need to do the jQuery & CSS ones. Job responsibilities currently more based in Python & SQL which I've been using for years, but will be doing more front end work in a couple of months so I need to get up to speed soon.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 16:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I did a bunch of the Python lessons and I learned a lot, but they're all user submitted, and vary wildly in quality. Some of them are so broken that it's impossible to tell when you did everything right and the parser is still refusing to accept the code, or when you did something wrong but the parser accepts your bad code anyway. It reminds me of having, like, an incompetent community college teacher working from a good book.

Dan I., Saturday, 19 January 2013 21:40 (six years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

hi i love learning

im going to be learning this stuff in classes over the next few months.

would it, iyo, be worth bashing my head off these courses first or am i best off just absorbing it in real times at college

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 14:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Blow through the official courses to get the gist, then mess around with the user-created code for a more significant hands-on experience. I'm not yet a 'coder' but I made some progress getting the mental framework together using this method.

shaane, Monday, 2 September 2013 17:46 (five years ago) Permalink

tks will give it a blast (if i get time)

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 10:46 (five years ago) Permalink

It's probably a good introduction to the mindset but your actual course may have a more pedantic focus so some of the more "this just works" aspects may need unlearning again afterwards, or not - depends a lot on the course.

What is the official title of your course and do you know what languages it'll be using?

(If it's called Computer Science it may be pedantic and hands-off; if it's called Information [___] Technology it may be hands-on, get-stuff-done-quick; if it's Software Engineering it may be hands-on but still pedantic; Informatics could be anything. These distinctions aren't made v. rigorously in the UK compared to in the US though, dunno about Ireland but may well be the same.)

also you will hate the lame jokes and Monty Python references throughout Codecademy but you'll probably hate everything 98% of your fellow students think is funny too so maybe it's good practice for that.

the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 11:18 (five years ago) Permalink

it's a higher diploma in computing, i bleev it specifically says computer science here and there

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:47 (five years ago) Permalink

reading around the subject is always good.

koogs, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, reading is good, sorry if I made it sound like it isn't.

Udacity's CS101 is OK (course materials are at https://www.udacity.com/wiki/cs101/downloads if you don't want to sign up - can't remember if you can see the youtubes without signing up) and brings up more concepts that you'll probably see on your course, but on the other hand there's something to be said for Codecademy's more fun and more hands-on approach too.

PS I am a serial CS-then-ICT dropout so actually probably the worst person to take the advice of

the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:13 (five years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

i'm doing the ruby section of this for fun and it really is fun. but i blew through like 60% of what's available in a short time. what is one to do next to make progress?

sent from my butt (harbl), Friday, 27 December 2013 22:18 (five years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

I'm doing this! Since it's been 10+ years since I had a programming class, I'm going all the way back to the beginning. I mean <em><strong>ALL</strong><em> the way back.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 18 January 2014 16:53 (five years ago) Permalink

can you have friends on this thing? harbl, be my friend!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 18 January 2014 16:53 (five years ago) Permalink

sent from my butt (harbl)
Posted: December 27, 2013 at 10:18:29 PM
i'm doing the ruby section of this for fun and it really is fun. but i blew through like 60% of what's available in a short time. what is one to do next to make progress?

build a websyteeeeee

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 January 2014 16:55 (five years ago) Permalink

i hope someone at codecademy is reading the funny stuff that i'm writing when they ask me to write paragraphs and stuff like that. seriously there's been some comedy gold, hope they're checking it out and laughing

Karl Malone, Saturday, 18 January 2014 16:57 (five years ago) Permalink

youre the one theyve been waiting for

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 January 2014 17:00 (five years ago) Permalink

I might try doing this again. I petered out fairly quickly last time.

emil.y, Saturday, 18 January 2014 17:15 (five years ago) Permalink

I know it would be deeply unethical, but it would be neat if they collected all of the things that people chose to wrote and published them as one <ol>list</ol>

btw this week i'll be peppering my posts with beginning html tags, hope everyone is ok with that

Karl Malone, Saturday, 18 January 2014 17:15 (five years ago) Permalink

I can't find a way to add friends or start a custom ilxor group. boo.

Yeah I haven't done this for a while, been meaning to learn jQuery and also my html/css is super-rusty and I'm meant to do some web stuff for work now so it might be an idea to pick it back up, but I have mile-long list of good intentions of that kind so eh

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 18 January 2014 17:24 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, it's kind of weird that they don't let you make a group or add "friends"! some commenters on one of their help page were speculating that codecademy intends to monetize the site by selling it to businesses/organizations, who would then get to take advantage of custom groups/friends/etc.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 18 January 2014 17:28 (five years ago) Permalink

The problem with not doing it for several months is that they rewrite half the ones you've already done so they're not ticked off any more and my completionist tendencies go nuts

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:44 (five years ago) Permalink

oh, didn't see this, karl. i did finish all of ruby but now i've done nothing for a few weeks so i forgot it all and too much to do with my actual job :(

sent from my butt (harbl), Sunday, 26 January 2014 02:46 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

1 Year Passes...

so yeah, i fizzled out as well. iirc, i started to sense that the instruction was really thin in some areas, like i was rushing through all of CSS in like 45 minutes and i needed way more time and repetition. i guess i should have just slowed myself down and assigned myself exercises and tried to experiment a little more.

but i kind of want to try something else out, a little more in-depth. has anyone tried udacity? are there other good alternatives? i'd be willing to pay a little bit for something a little better. a little for a little.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 February 2015 17:59 (three years ago) Permalink

kinda feel like using these interactive tutorials as part of a wider constellation of instructional material is more useful than as a singular walled garden, like google a lot which is what u do when ur building a webiste irl, get a book, and most importantly work on an actual project, which i mean u do make actual websites so youve got that which the best learning environment

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:04 (three years ago) Permalink

these learn 2 code exercise sites present such a small fraction of the actual issues u will encounter irl which is part of what makes them useful but also limits their effectiveness as a learning environment

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:09 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah plan what you want to finish it and google every little roadblock til you get there imo

also read the documentation I found that stuff a lot more useful than college notes etc at times

local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:10 (three years ago) Permalink

like coding is not actual coding which is why ppl generally call it developing these days

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:11 (three years ago) Permalink

i guess what's difficult for me is that i want to get past the basic "beginner's website" that they teach you to build and learn how to manipulate things in experimental ways.

i really like this guy geoffrey lillemon's stuff. he changes his website constantly and the most recent version is really difficult to use and loads slowly, but generally i like how his art is embedded into the website, the way the user interacts with it. there are all these layers of images (i don't know if they're videos or flash or what) and...it's hard to explain.

i just want to know what kinds of code he's using. i'd like to be barely proficient at them so i can have more freedom in making my own stuff without relying so heavily on others.

is it all just JS/CSS/HTML?

Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:11 (three years ago) Permalink

i guess the obv answer is that i need to be patient and just learn everything possible about the basic website so that i can deconstruct it? learn to crawl before you can walk/run, etc.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:13 (three years ago) Permalink

i just wish there was a codecademy module that went through all the things that are NOT recommended. like, autoplaying videos and music, creating strobe light effects that might damage the viewer's eyes and cause them to sue, making lines of text blend to each other and become unreadable. instead everything is like "now we're going to teach you how to make a very professional CV that any senior vice president would love!"

Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:17 (three years ago) Permalink

u can see if u inspect hes using some css animations and also loading some js files for... something - u shd email him and ask tho good chance if u show interest in his particular project hed be into talking about it, espcailly if u showed him the cool stuff u made, or he might have it up on github too

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:18 (three years ago) Permalink

i'm guessing he'd never respond, heh. he's one of the few people who appear to have taken the net art thing to the next level and probably has loads of money and doesn't talk to strangers

Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:19 (three years ago) Permalink

or if hes to busy and bigtime to f w u track down some lesser collaborator, someone will have blogged or want to talk to u or have a github

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:21 (three years ago) Permalink

when ppl do clever things they like to talk abt it is the assumption im working under

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:22 (three years ago) Permalink

i have a friend who does similar stuff http://www.yellowandorange.com tho i think hes mostly video these days anyway id be happy to introduce u i think he has a show coming up maybe

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:24 (three years ago) Permalink

that's really cool! that's exactly what i'm talking about. i'd love to meet him sometime, but i want to get a lot better at it myself first. i'd love to talk to these people when i share the same CS vocabulary, or at least parts of the same vocabulary.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:31 (three years ago) Permalink

oh but regardless if he has a show coming up let me know, it would be nice to meet you and to see his stuff in person

Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:32 (three years ago) Permalink

i cld just introduce u on facebook or w/e, i wldnt worry abt not having the right skills hes super nice and humble and im sure wld be happy to talk shop, tho u wld have to refriend me lmao

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:33 (three years ago) Permalink

smdh at myself

Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:50 (three years ago) Permalink

ha i do actually remember thinking to myself i have already been obnoxious once toward zach today maybe i shdnt go in a second time but then i did

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:53 (three years ago) Permalink

anyway dont worry ilx we r friends again

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:53 (three years ago) Permalink

<3

for real let me know if you attend one of his shows anytime soon. i'm reading/watching this and like his stuff a lot so far.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:55 (three years ago) Permalink

cool will do, tbh i havent seen him in a few years but thats mostly a function of not being in new york and were not like super tight but id be cool to see his show and say hi

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:57 (three years ago) Permalink

tho i might be totally imagining that he said he had a show coming up, but maybe we cld visit his studio or something

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:58 (three years ago) Permalink

oh no wait here we go https://instagram.com/p/zOGmAbL3CT

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:59 (three years ago) Permalink

cool, yeah i'd be up for going to the show for sure

Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 February 2015 19:10 (three years ago) Permalink

cool man its on

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 February 2015 19:11 (three years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

i've been doing the web design courses w/ this - they're fun!

Mordy, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 13:42 (three years ago) Permalink


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