The Wisdom of Gaffers

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I don't sleep a lot, because if I'm sleeping I'm not learning.

David Flitcroft, Barnsley, February 2013.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 February 2013 20:55 (six years ago) link

You have to look at the societal changes that have gone on. In days gone by a cup of tea was a novelty. Now we are in the computer age. That is why the crowds have gone down.

Kenny Shiels, Kilmarnock, February 2013.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 February 2013 20:56 (six years ago) link

Is he blaming computers or tea? Damn your ambiguity, Kenny.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 16 February 2013 20:59 (six years ago) link

It's the consistency you aim for, and I think that if you remain consistent, and if you've been successful with being consistent, then that consistency will get you through to remain being successful

Nigel Adkins, Southampton, February 2012.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 February 2013 21:14 (six years ago) link

There's a lot of literature out there that suggests people who get beyond themselves and think in the future forget what they're supposed to be doing now

Nigel Adkins, Southampton, March 2012.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 February 2013 21:15 (six years ago) link

People have said I am wrong to publicly blame players, that Paolo Di Canio's way is not the right way to manage. But Redknapp has said the same thing as I have, which proves why I think I am a top manager.

Paolo Di Canio, Swindon Town, December 2012.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 February 2013 21:21 (six years ago) link

Before Christmas, I also went to Stonehenge for the winter solstice. Swindon had just beaten Tranmere 5-0 and I waited until 4am before going there to see the sunrise. It was raining and I didn't see anything, so I left and went straight to training.

Paolo Di Canio, Swindon Town, January 2013.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 February 2013 21:24 (six years ago) link

My personal view is that the club is intelligent enough to understand that when you're in the building process, you have to build. When you're building a house - if rain comes in because the roof isn't on yet, you've got to be patient and give people time to do the job.

Graham Westley, Preston North End, February 2013.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 February 2013 21:31 (six years ago) link

They've got a massive advantage in terms of their endurance levels. I measure their endurance levels on the training ground and I know what athleticism they've got in their bodies.

The footballing quality they've got is there. There are some timing issues and organisational issues that are stopping them from converting their play into goals.

Graham Westley, Preston North End, December 2012.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 16 February 2013 21:36 (six years ago) link

You have to look at the societal changes that have gone on. In days gone by a cup of tea was a novelty. Now we are in the computer age. That is why the crowds have gone down.
Kenny Shiels, Kilmarnock, February 2013.

Very much enjoying this whole thread so far, but this ^^^ is really special imo

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 16 February 2013 21:49 (six years ago) link

flitcroft is the find of the season, seek out his every word

r|t|c, Sunday, 17 February 2013 10:49 (six years ago) link

You can live without water for so many days, but you can't live without hope.

B. Rodgers, Feb 2013

birmingham six, guildford four, mumford & sons (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 February 2013 17:43 (six years ago) link

Could I work with a chairman like Abramovich? Why not? It is important he does not speak anything about football to me.

Of course, he could have an opinion as the owner and the first fan of the club, but he could not have an opinion on the way to manage, otherwise he should just become manager himself.

For example, some chairmen in Italy seem to have the ambition to become a manager and speak in an arrogant way, saying what they think is wrong or right in public.

I can work with any chairman.

Paolo Di Canio, Swindon Town, December 2012.

William Bloody Swygart, Monday, 18 February 2013 23:26 (six years ago) link

On Sunday night, I was dreaming of the Wolves team and Manchester City. I had Sylvan Ebanks-Blake linking up with Sergio Aguero. So I had a sleepless night.

David Flitcroft, Barnsley, February 2013.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 22 February 2013 01:35 (six years ago) link

Had he uttered this a week or so earlier, this thread would almost certainly have been called Sleeping with David Flitcroft.

William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 22 February 2013 01:36 (six years ago) link

his interviews are just priceless, even the quotes as reported don't do justice to the inspirational lancashire evangelism

r|t|c, Friday, 22 February 2013 02:54 (six years ago) link

Two injuries, rested a couple more, the boys who came in impressed you tonight?

(Long pause)

They impress me every day I work with them. Every single one of them. They impress me as people. Kelvin Etuhu didn't want to play tonight, and couldn't play tonight, because he felt he was going to let the boys down. I asked Jim McNulty could he play against MK Dons. He didn't want to play... because he'd let the team down. Now that is unselfish behaviour. That is behaviour that fits a king.

r|t|c, Friday, 22 February 2013 02:54 (six years ago) link

I need a boss with that attitude

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Friday, 22 February 2013 08:37 (six years ago) link

Me too. I let the team down on a daily basis but if I fancy not bothering to go to work of a morning that's somehow a *bad* thing.

Tim, Friday, 22 February 2013 09:41 (six years ago) link

Had made a mental note to check out Flitcroft's interviews at some point in the near-future, but I think "That is behaviour that fits a king" has brought it forward in my schedule to some time this afternoon.

Also this - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/feb/22/paolo-di-canio-swindon-raid

I'd have him at Villa tbh

Windsor Davies, Friday, 22 February 2013 14:18 (six years ago) link

We stay calm, we stay focused. And we stay positive. Because the positivity around the place at the minute is phenomenal. And it's a movement. And that movement's getting more powerful. Not by each result, by each performance.

r|t|c, Friday, 22 February 2013 15:20 (six years ago) link

They've come now so far. And they're strong. As a group of people they're strong. As a group of men they're strong. It's a galvanised unit, it's a unit that's not fragmented, it's a unit that is united in one effort and one belief. And it's a movement that's going to be difficult to stop.

r|t|c, Friday, 22 February 2013 15:26 (six years ago) link

The line about having 14 men every game was fairly fantastic. I think he genuinely feels Barnsley are on the cusp of transcending the paradigm of mere football. Guru Flitcroft Sahib

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:29 (six years ago) link

they're having a great run. i genuinely hope the cult continues.

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:32 (six years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21398594

the battle of agincourt got nothing on barnsley 3-2 middlesbrough

r|t|c, Friday, 22 February 2013 15:33 (six years ago) link

what if Wolves are the sacrifice tho

(I also want it to continue - hopefully Lee Clark's graceless implosions will propel his dire team arsewards)

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:34 (six years ago) link

i've already said i'm happy for Wolves to be the sacrifice. said last season we needed to go down for lessons to learn and rebuilding to be done properly. am now convinced that won't happen under Steve Morgan so i'm grimly satisfied with total immolation until the cunt sells up.

tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:39 (six years ago) link

this is what I was talking about in the other thread - immolation as cleansing, fresh perspectives and whatnot. CAFC in much healthier, happier state with club legend in charge and committed, likeable players who know their own game than during first go in Championship (or indeed last season in Premiership)

so eat it nilmarrrrrrr

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:43 (six years ago) link

How typical of Pompey to shell out on the deluxe ultradetox package

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 February 2013 15:47 (six years ago) link

they will return pure, sainted, translucent, it will almost be like they are not there

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:48 (six years ago) link

They deserved to win today, they played better than us and they executed their performance better.

Paul Tisdale, Exeter City, February 2013.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 02:02 (six years ago) link

We huffed and we puffed and we kept the ball really well

Eddie Howe, Bournemouth, February 2013.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 02:07 (six years ago) link

Sometimes a kick up the backside doesn't do anyone any harm now and again.

Steve Bruce, Hull City, February 2013.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 02:15 (six years ago) link

Of course we are very disappointed and of course it has an effect on confidence. And of course it is very frustrating for the supporters here who have seen these results over the past few weeks. But do we still believe we can make the play-offs? Of course we do.

Tony Mowbray, Middlesbrough, February 2013.

William Bloody Swygart, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 02:23 (six years ago) link

"People say there’s a mountain to climb but people climb mountains every day."

John Brown, Dundee, February 2013

pacing like a lion, as weightless as an astronaut (onimo), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 13:58 (six years ago) link

forgot my quote tags, sorry

pacing like a lion, as weightless as an astronaut (onimo), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 13:58 (six years ago) link

I expect John Brown to be good value for this thread for the next couple of weeks or so.

ailsa, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 15:14 (six years ago) link

Not a gaffer, but this has got to go somewhere -

The goalkeeper underlined the side's unswerving belief. "Even if there is one game to go and we are 12 points behind, we'll still believe," he said. "We've got to. We've got to keep fighting, you never know. We have just got to keep going.

Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 18:26 (six years ago) link

The manager is the manager. One month, three months, seven months - it doesn't matter

Rafael Benitez, Chelsea (Interim), February 2013

pacing like a lion, as weightless as an astronaut (onimo), Thursday, 28 February 2013 00:06 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21643152#asset

alan pardew, great with numbers

r|t|c, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 16:47 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Today will end and tomorrow will begin

David Flitcroft, Barnsley, April 2013.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 13 April 2013 19:04 (six years ago) link

We were defragmented

David Flitcroft, Barnsley, April 2013

Winningest franchise club of the day (imago), Saturday, 13 April 2013 23:21 (six years ago) link

You could easily market a small book of Ian Holloway's pearls

“He’s six foot something, fit as a flea, good looking – he’s got to have something wrong with him. Hopefully he’s hung like a hamster – That would make us all feel better. Having said that, me missus has got a pet hamster at home, and his cock’s massive.” - On Ronaldo

tsrobodo, Saturday, 13 April 2013 23:55 (six years ago) link

btw out of 92 clubs in the football league, 56 have appointed at least one new manager since the start of the season

Winningest franchise club of the day (imago), Sunday, 14 April 2013 00:12 (six years ago) link

An equaliser from Aldershot with all their fans, I think other teams would have crumbled. Not this Wycombe, not my Wycombe.

People are probably looking at things saying 'Wycombe have nothing to play for'. How wrong they are going to be because we have everything to play for.

Gareth Ainsworth, Wycombe Wanderers, April 2013.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 14 April 2013 11:02 (six years ago) link

It's actually quite easy to try and run around when you're 1-0 down.

Kevin MacDonald, Swindon Town, April 2013.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 14 April 2013 11:09 (six years ago) link

<3 wild thing

r|t|c, Sunday, 14 April 2013 11:12 (six years ago) link

Watching the FLS last night - parade of crop-haired managers in shirt and tie...and then, at the end, there's Deadbeat Gareth

Winningest franchise club of the day (imago), Sunday, 14 April 2013 11:13 (six years ago) link

(xp gareth ainsworth's pretty great too)

r|t|c, Sunday, 14 April 2013 11:13 (six years ago) link

DEADBEAT GARETH HOW DARE YOU

r|t|c, Sunday, 14 April 2013 11:15 (six years ago) link

This was just the first of thousands of steps that this club has to take.

Steven Pressley, Coventry City, October 2014.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 25 October 2014 19:42 (four years ago) link

As the manager, I take full responsibility, but the players now owe me big time.

Darren Ferguson, Peterborough United, October 2014.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 25 October 2014 19:42 (four years ago) link

looooool

pecker shrivellage (imago), Saturday, 25 October 2014 19:46 (four years ago) link

They have played badly because we let in eight goals.

Malcolm Crosby, Birmingham City (caretaker), October 2014.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 25 October 2014 19:48 (four years ago) link

We're pleased in some aspects but obviously disappointed we lost the game and ultimately that's the key thing.

David Weir, Brentford (assistant), October 2014.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 25 October 2014 19:49 (four years ago) link

When you have important players missing, you have to find the right solution. We didn't.

Jose Riga, Blackpool, October 2014.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 25 October 2014 19:53 (four years ago) link

Not surprised that resolute Posh defence will run through brick walls for him ! Such magnanimity in the face of defeat.

xelab, Saturday, 25 October 2014 20:12 (four years ago) link

It's an easy game when things are going well and everybody is a hero.

Chris Wilder, Northampton Town, October 2014.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 25 October 2014 20:17 (four years ago) link

Conceding five goals like this is not something that I represent, that is in my nature, to allow it to be so easy.

David Flitcroft, Bury, October 2014.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 25 October 2014 20:19 (four years ago) link

When we went 2-1 down, it wasn't just Bristol City that were 2-1 down away from home, it was Bristol City the last club in the Football League to remain unbeaten that were 2-1 down away from home, and that pressure then intensifies on the players.

Steve Cotterill, Bristol City The Last Club In The Football League To Remain Unbeaten, October 2014.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 25 October 2014 20:27 (four years ago) link

We should have got something, but 'should' doesn't cut it.

Neil Lennon, Bolton Wanderers, October 2014.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 25 October 2014 20:31 (four years ago) link

We have pace and discipline - we've got a juvenile spirit about us.

Alan Pardew, Newcastle United, November 2014

There's a reality to this division, and that's not our market - that's a market beyond us

Sean Dyche, Burnley, November 2014.

William Bloody Swygart, Saturday, 1 November 2014 23:19 (four years ago) link

It's important as a new manager coming through the building to get off the mark

Russ Wilcox, York City, November 2014.

William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 2 November 2014 01:00 (four years ago) link

Unfortunately, football is a capricious sport that only rewards the team who scores goals.

Luis Enrique, Barcelona, November 2014

Sometimes you've got be in the bottom of the valley to see the top of the mountain. By no means are we at the bottom of the valley because it's a great journey for us.

Sean Dyche, Burnley, November 2014

r|t|c, Friday, 7 November 2014 10:08 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

Unfortunately we're undone by our own doing, really

Chris Ramsey, QPR, March 2015

poc het ino (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 23:50 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

You need a mind tool, with no trepidation, to be able to express yourself.

John Hughes, Inverness CT, April 2015.

no way no way sna sna (onimo), Friday, 17 April 2015 08:15 (four years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Football today is numbers. You have to get defensive numbers back.

Ian Holloway, Unemployed, May 2015

r|t|c, Saturday, 16 May 2015 12:34 (four years ago) link

All about numbers

Tony (Pulis) is mathematic. What the club wants, he gives.

Jose Mourinho, Chelsea, May 2015

mea nulta (onimo), Saturday, 16 May 2015 17:28 (four years ago) link

So much wisdom from one gaffer. I bet Ian Holloway never talks about Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs in the dressing room.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXCgwKAH1Uw

ailsa, Saturday, 16 May 2015 18:05 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

Washington, though, endured a difficult start to the campaign, failing to score in any of his first nine league appearances, with his only goal before October coming in Posh's League Cup win against Crawley Town.

And the 23-year-old credits the advice he received from Graham Westley, who took over at London Road towards the end of his barren spell, for turning his season around.

“He used the analogy that your mum is locked up with a gun to her head in a room and the only way you can get her out is to win,” he said. “How would that affect your performance? It struck a massive chord with me and a few other players. He said it was not the nicest thing in the world to think of but use it if that gives you that edge and aggression. I was a different animal. He brought me out of my shell.”

r|t|c, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 16:44 (three years ago) link

quality bump

Laertiades (imago), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 16:49 (three years ago) link

this is a good thread

trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 16:50 (three years ago) link

You need a mind tool, with no trepidation, to be able to express yourself.

had me ending myself

trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 16:50 (three years ago) link

bene gesserit ekotto

r|t|c, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 17:00 (three years ago) link

Peterborough boss Graham Westley said his players need to take inspiration from the film The Revenant following their 1-0 home defeat by Burton.

"You can see in that film what a human being can do if his motivation and desire is sufficient," he said.

calzino, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 20:59 (three years ago) link

human triumphs against all odds in the middle of a godless frozen wilderness hundreds of miles from civilization vs The Revenant

disco Polo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:04 (three years ago) link

It’s a balance between the two. When we have opened out and picked several forward players we’ve ended up conceding at the back, so we do want to be solid at the back.

Finding that balance is a big one, between attack and defence. And attacking and defensive players.

Kenny Jackett, Wolverhampton Wanderers, March 2016.

trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:10 (three years ago) link

our season in 4 sentences.

disco Polo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:12 (three years ago) link

What do people like in other people? They like mirror images. They like to say, 'He's not a bad lad, he takes a drink. He's not a bad lad, he's a Jack The Lad'.

Kenny Shiels, Kilmarnock, March 2012

this melange of the avuncular and the sociopathic is still my favourite quote from this thread.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:20 (three years ago) link

He's not a bad lad,
he takes a drink.
He's not a bad lad,
he's a Jack The Lad.

trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:25 (three years ago) link

No matter how many times you read it, it always feels just beyond understanding.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:37 (three years ago) link

It can be very unfair on my family. Funnily enough it was my kids’ birthday on Wednesday and it’s my wife’s birthday today so it’s been a busy week for me.

My twin boys Zach and Finn ran into my room yesterday shouting, ‘Daddy, we’re four!’ But I just pulled my covers over my head saying, ‘I don’t care if you’re four, leave me alone!’

It really affects your life and it hurts so much when you get a bad result because you put so much into it and the whole club hurts.

We hurt, the fans hurt, I’m sure the board hurts – everybody hurts.

It’s difficult when your kids come in the next morning happy to be four and you’re telling them to go away and give you peace. That’s the job you choose though. It hurts a lot when you’re not winning and we need to make sure we get back to winning ways against Hearts on Sunday.

Martin Canning, Hamilton Academicals, January 2016.

trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 22:17 (three years ago) link

Needs to start hurting hearts on the pitch.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 22:27 (three years ago) link

I sincerely hope that was a touch of hyperbole or poetic license. and he didn't actually, you know, tell his 4 year old children to go away on the morning of their birthday

trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 22:34 (three years ago) link

yeah that's p heartwrenching if true.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 22:39 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The players and the crowd were getting upset with the referee and the frustration was not helping us. When they came in at half time, I told them to chill out.

That frustration leads to a tightening of the muscles and you end up tense and unnatural.

Lee Johnson, Bristol City, April 2016

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 April 2016 11:42 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

We've got to respect the way we play

David Flitcroft, Mansfield Town, March 2017

imago, Sunday, 11 March 2018 16:51 (one year ago) link

I literally came here to post that I hoped David Flitcroft was still in a job.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 March 2018 17:06 (one year ago) link

visited parents' for mothers' day, ended up watching C5 football highlights with my dad, Flitcroft was onscreen for about 15 seconds and he still managed to say that

imago, Sunday, 11 March 2018 17:08 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

Best thread.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 20:55 (seven months ago) link

an old brendan rodgers quote which i used as my signature on a celtic forum:

"I always say a squad is like a good meal. I'm not a great cook, but a good meal takes a wee bit of time. But also, to offer a good meal you need good ingredients."

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 21:02 (seven months ago) link

six months pass...

Feature on Graham Potter in the Graun

Upstairs at Brighton & Hove Albion’s striking Y-shaped training pavilion, Graham Potter is talking through how he came to lend his copy of the Dalai Lama’s Ancient Wisdom, Modern World to one of his former players at Östersund a couple of years ago. Curtis Edwards was at home watching Netflix when, around 8pm, the manager called asking whether he was busy. Kyle Macaulay, the scout who has followed Potter from Sweden to Swansea and now Brighton, drove Edwards to the Jämtkraft Arena and for the next hour and a half Potter and he spoke openly about almost everything but football.

“We were just chatting and chatting and we got on to reading,” explains Potter. “In the end, I just said: ‘Have a read of that.’ Curtis was one of those guys that whenever he made a mistake, he beat himself up a lot and it was just trying to change how he thought. I showed him games where his head was up in the air when he had made a mistake and actually he should have been reacting to what’s happening rather than worrying and beating himself up about making a mistake. The Dalai Lama is quite a clever guy, isn’t he? He puts things into perspective a little bit, and I just thought: ‘Why not?’”

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 2 August 2019 17:16 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

We've got a live one in Motherwell's Stephen Robinson:

We lacked real men. They had more men in their team. I don't think they out-passed us or outplayed us. We played with no purpose. We passed for the sake of passing without trying to break them down.

When Declan Gallagher is playing with a high temperature and flu and he's the best player on the pitch for us, it tells you he's a proper man, proper footballer.

Players have a habit of making you look stupid, but that's the level of player we're able to recruit, and we have to educate them. That has to happen sooner rather than later or they won't play in the team.

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 17 August 2019 09:26 (one month ago) link

nice

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 August 2019 14:44 (one month ago) link


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