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Jack Rodwell insists England's players are on par with the Spanish team and thinks almost half of the senior squad could play for Barcelona.

He told reporters: "We might not have shown it the other night, but we do have players with excellent technical ability.

"You look at our senior side, we have some of the best players in the world.

"Gerrard, Lampard, Terry, Ferdinand, Rooney, the list goes on. If they were in the Barcelona squad I'm sure all of them would start.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 23:14 (eight years ago) link

need a compilation of english football indulging in ludicrous wish fulfillment imo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 23:15 (eight years ago) link

Don't worry, cos:

Marc Albrighton: "I think we're technically gifted, maybe not as much, but we've got the fight and the passion that overtakes that. I don't think many countries have got the passion and the hard work that England possess."

Chris, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 23:24 (eight years ago) link

Never get tired of this one...

Stevie Me on Joe Cole: "Messi can do some amazing things, but anything he can do Joe can do as well, if not better. He used to shock us in training by doing footy tricks with a golf ball that most players can't even do with a football. I really fancy Joe for the [player of the year] award this season."

Chris, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 23:27 (eight years ago) link

the passion and the hard work that England possess

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 23:32 (eight years ago) link

the hard work will have been possessed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 23:32 (eight years ago) link

Q: Are you passionate about football?
A: I, and the rest of the English team, do possess some passion.

wmlynch, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 23:56 (eight years ago) link

yeah yeah, we've done this

i'm not sure it's technical ability so much as technical thought. most of england's attacking players can trap a ball (lol heskey) but they don't always (in fact pretty rarely) trap it with intent, already moving in a considered or preparing for the next pass- as xavi, iniesta, modric do

― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 23 July 2010 15:03 (10 months ago) Bookmark

basically

r|t|c, Thursday, 16 June 2011 00:14 (eight years ago) link

they are generally technically inferior too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Thursday, 16 June 2011 00:15 (eight years ago) link

that's another topic covered elsewhere tho

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Thursday, 16 June 2011 00:16 (eight years ago) link

Asked if Young deserves to be described in the same company as the Barcelona playmaker, and Manchester United's Cristiano Ronaldo, O'Neill replied: "Yes. In my opinion. I see a lot of games in Europe, I watch a lot of football, and you see a lot of players in the game who are very functional.

"Some are decent, some are more than decent and some are very, very good. And then you have the players who are absolutely exceptional. And Ashley Young is absolutely exceptional."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Thursday, 16 June 2011 00:20 (eight years ago) link

they are generally technically inferior too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan),

eyes read this three times and 'genetically inferior'

beta the drivel you know (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 June 2011 00:35 (eight years ago) link

do think there is scope for a separate thread noting when british isles footballers claim technical parity with... well, anyone, i guess.

beta the drivel you know (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 June 2011 00:36 (eight years ago) link

"Gerrard, Lampard, Terry, Ferdinand, Rooney, the list goes on. If they were in the Barcelona squad I'm sure all of them would start."

This quote to start the thread is all time. I refuse to accept Rodwell actually believes this. He just can't. HE CAN'T!!!

pandemic, Thursday, 16 June 2011 07:57 (eight years ago) link

english footballers mostly pretty stupid so yeah he can

aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 June 2011 08:02 (eight years ago) link

ferdinand might get a game...

lol at the rest.

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Thursday, 16 June 2011 08:18 (eight years ago) link

bentley on the right

beta the drivel you know (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 June 2011 08:37 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I would have made a case for Ferdinand up until about two years ago. He'd probably walk into the Barca team now. Maybe Rooney a year or two ago but not since they signed Villa. The others are lol.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:03 (eight years ago) link

You get the feeling the combined England-Barcelona XI would be ten England players plus Messi

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:10 (eight years ago) link

Messi??? England have Joe Cole!!

pandemic, Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:25 (eight years ago) link

Even the most mental England player would probably put in Busquets over Gareth Barry. Or try and convert Iniesta into a defensive midfielder.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:30 (eight years ago) link

Busquets is a cheat though. So's Alves. Iniesta and Puyol get respect though, they'd get shoehorned in there probably but not sure exactly where what with Rio/Terry, Lampard/Gerrard/Wilshere et al.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:40 (eight years ago) link

what makes me lol is there is one player in the england team i'd have over his barca counterpart in a heartbeat based on ability alone and he wasn't mentioned: ashley cole

ladyboner (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:42 (eight years ago) link

            Valdes

Alves Ferdinand Terry Abidal

Gerrard Xavi Lampard

Rooney Messi Villa

I genuinely can't imagine how this team would operate

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:51 (eight years ago) link

It wouldn't.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:54 (eight years ago) link

jesus ik wtf is that

beta the drivel you know (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:56 (eight years ago) link

Iniesta suffers from enough injuries that you could put Lampard Keita in there easily...

Hell I couldn't even finish that sentence.

ladyboner (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:56 (eight years ago) link

Do Barca have a mascot? Rio could be on the pitch with his trademark merking style that way.

ladyboner (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:57 (eight years ago) link

oic nm

beta the drivel you know (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:57 (eight years ago) link

Xavi would pass to Gerrard and stand there as if waiting for it to be passed back to him while Gerrard bombed forward and hoofed it over the bar.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 June 2011 09:58 (eight years ago) link

Would be quite fun to see Alves make roughly 500 overlapping runs never to receive the ball from Gerrard tho.

pandemic, Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:03 (eight years ago) link

and rightly so

Wd have johnson, richards and hutton over alves

beta the drivel you know (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:05 (eight years ago) link

valdes not much better than any of england's shit keepers mind you...

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:06 (eight years ago) link

Valdes
Alves Pique Ferdinand Cole
Busquets Xavi Iniesta
Messi Villa Rooney

Would be alright. Being charitable to Rooney there, and I don't even think Valdes is that good. Maybe Joe Hart could make it depending on how he does in the Champions League next year.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:07 (eight years ago) link

Valdes has been ridiculously good for the past 2 seasons

Also Pedro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rooney

ladyboner (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:11 (eight years ago) link

what makes me lol is there is one player in the england team i'd have over his barca counterpart in a heartbeat based on ability alone and he wasn't mentioned: ashley cole
--ladyboner (a hoy hoy)

totally

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:36 (eight years ago) link

       james
alves ferdinand pique rooney

xavi fabregas iniesta
messi gerrard
villa

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:39 (eight years ago) link

i'm going to create this team tonight on fifa.

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:41 (eight years ago) link

tbfttl rodwell seems fairly intelligent for an english footballer

i guess he is in the awkward position of answering leading qns from hacks

albrighton quote worse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:42 (eight years ago) link

the only english midfielder that could work at barca is huddlestone

beta the drivel you know (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:46 (eight years ago) link

foster

alves dann pique warnock

xavi gerrard lampard messi

rooney carroll

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Thursday, 16 June 2011 10:47 (eight years ago) link

do think there is scope for a separate thread noting when british isles footballers claim technical parity with... well, anyone, i guess.

Not sure who these "British Isles Footballers" are... any of them not English?

Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2011 12:29 (eight years ago) link

fletcher >>>>>>> busquiets

ladyboner (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 16 June 2011 12:44 (eight years ago) link

uhm

no

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Thursday, 16 June 2011 12:48 (eight years ago) link

Absolutely, have you ever seen him play for Scotland?

Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2011 12:51 (eight years ago) link

Absolutely, not as good as Busquets, in case there's any confusion there. Not even as good as Gary Caldwell when he plays for Scotland.

Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2011 12:53 (eight years ago) link

fletcher is pretty good but busquets is probably the best dmid around now

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Thursday, 16 June 2011 12:53 (eight years ago) link

sandro, thudd, jenas

beta the drivel you know (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:00 (eight years ago) link

but busquiets is a dick

ladyboner (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:28 (eight years ago) link

is there a reason u spel it like that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:30 (eight years ago) link

Of the other possible contenders, Real Madrid’s Carlo Ancelotti was passed over in favour of Pellegrini following Roberto Mancini’s sacking two years ago, and the style of football played by Diego Simeone’s Atlético Madrid is not considered cultured enough to match City’s aspirations.

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 19:31 (four years ago) link

Michael Owen is so Jealous types of person who have no any ability of being Punditry rather than talking what he is thinking that were not come from good thinking. He rather very shameless kinds of person I so ever known. I finally understood that, he is a fan of Arsenal foot ball club and a high want to play for this club when he has been player but we were not afforded him such opportunity and thus why he dislike this European best ever team the Gunners. We don't surprise we such kinds of jealous person for ever.

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:00 (four years ago) link

otm

not content (onimo), Thursday, 9 April 2015 16:31 (four years ago) link

"I have to give a lot of credit to Pochettino for sticking to them boys," he added. "A lot of other managers would have gone in there and said: 'no thank you, let’s give me some of them players who end in an i or an o from foreign countries who might not be as good as these young talents and I’ll play them instead.'

"But he hasn’t, he's stuck to the plan and I've got to give him a lot of credit for that."

Matt DC, Friday, 10 April 2015 14:55 (four years ago) link

he's trolling right? has to be

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 10 April 2015 15:08 (four years ago) link

combination of self-aggrandizing, total lack of self-awareness, and i can only assume pished 24/7

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 April 2015 15:15 (four years ago) link

he is the dictionary definition of "full of shit"

division of bowker (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 April 2015 15:16 (four years ago) link

Given that virtually his first move as manager was to stick blood-of-St-George Englishman Nabil Bentaleb into the first team it's an odd one.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 April 2015 15:19 (four years ago) link

name ends with a consonant like a proper englishman

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 10 April 2015 15:23 (four years ago) link

turkey, algeria, close enough m8 xp

r|t|c, Friday, 10 April 2015 15:25 (four years ago) link

St George was conceivably Moorish, right ah FUCK OFF RTC

PORC EPIC SAVVAGE (imago), Friday, 10 April 2015 15:26 (four years ago) link

st george big in ethiopia, st cyprian for algeria

ogmor, Friday, 10 April 2015 15:28 (four years ago) link

she my map queen let her hit the banter

r|t|c, Friday, 10 April 2015 15:34 (four years ago) link

ah, for the halcyon days of Carlos Kickaball.

one month passes...

Queens Park Ranger’s Director of Football, Les Ferdinand, talks to 5 live sport’s Mark Pougatch about the club’s financial issues.

"Jermaine Jenas, who obviously you know extremely well and works a lot with us on the BBC, had this to say this week: 'During my time there, it was not being run as a Premier League club. For too long, the thinking was just to chuck money at the team. There has been no organisation, no vision, and no discipline in the way things were done.'"

"Sounds like a Premier League club doesn't it?"

r|t|c, Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:40 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"From now on, I'm going to focus on doing my talking on the pitch," he told Sky Sports News HQ. "As a footballer, you always get critics whether you're Ronaldo, Messi or myself. All you can do is answer your critics on the pitch."

turly dark (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 June 2015 07:29 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Speaking to Sky Sports News HQ, the former England skipper said: “If Gareth had picked the squad he wanted to pick, we’d have won this tournament. With those players we would have beaten Italy last night and beaten the rest of them as well.”

holger sharkey (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2015 17:14 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

50 years on. I hope there's not too much of this in the year ahead, ah hae ma doots *though

(*pron. θoʊ)

Anyway, it's not a three, it's a yogh. (Tom D.), Monday, 28 December 2015 11:22 (four years ago) link

Maybe starting on the 4th Jan is a clue re: how much of this there is going to be

Coombesbat 18 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 December 2015 11:46 (four years ago) link

Norwich City have agreed a deal in principle with Everton for the £8m purchase of Steven Naismith having revived interest first expressed in the summer, though they face competition from a number of rival Premier League clubs to secure the Scotland international.

things that are jokes pretty much (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 29 December 2015 16:57 (four years ago) link

Allardyce has grown increasingly concerned at the lack of opportunities for British managers, something which has become a pet topic over the years, and he believes the situation has reached a stage where the authorities must act to level the playing field.

"The problem for me is we are denying British coaches positions in all divisions now, particularly in the top division and the Championship, and we need to do something about that.

"As a country, as the FA, as the Premier League, we need to protect the position of our own highly qualified coaches who are not even getting an interview now.

"What we could do is make sure that a British coach is interviewed for every position, a bit like the Rooney Rule."

r|t|c, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 15:56 (four years ago) link

lol

Capybara (big rat) @ Sea World, San Diego, California, USA (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 16:37 (four years ago) link

tony fernandes voluntarily adopts twp rule by giving token interview to andy hinchcliffe after haisselbaink's departure clears the way for some diversity

Capybara (big rat) @ Sea World, San Diego, California, USA (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 16:41 (four years ago) link

Couldn't find the appropriate thread but england 3 hungary 6 is up on YouTube in it's entirety. P great stuff and the pace of the play way quicker than I was expecting. Kenneth Wolstenholme on the commentary quite funny when he's bemused by the hungarians interchanging of positions "the outside left takes the throw on the right touchline (2minslater)the outside left still on the right side of the field for some reason". England not as technically lacking as I was expecting tbh.

pandemic, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 11:51 (four years ago) link

downright rude of those hungarian rotters

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 11:59 (four years ago) link

literally the worst offside decision of all time against hungary after 10 minutes. should be 4-0 up

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 14:54 (four years ago) link

best moment so far just over 5 minutes in when mortensen gets knocked out cold and the hungarian players literally pick him up and dump him off the side of the pitch

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 15:30 (four years ago) link

hungary's 6th goal genuinely exquisite even by modern standards, and with that i yield

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 15:40 (four years ago) link

Next up, the 7-1 game?

Anyway, it's not a three, it's a yogh. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 15:58 (four years ago) link

CF 9 Bedford Jezzard

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:01 (four years ago) link

abysmal and great all at once

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:01 (four years ago) link

After the 3rd Hungary goal goes in there's a shell-shocked astonishment pervading Wembley. The nearest anologue is half-time at Germany-Brazil 2014, this sense that the best team in the world is giving the much-hyped home favorites a shellacking.

barbarian radge (NotEnough), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:03 (four years ago) link

Quite fancy watching that later. I've read a lot about it - even paid money to get football nemesis on special order from the library a couple years ago - but have watched maybe a minute of footage.

Nandor Hidegkuti 4eva

Cuombas (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:48 (four years ago) link

mortensen getting knocked out at 45 minutes, not 5

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:50 (four years ago) link

Scholes as a coach (as opposed to a manager) is not the worst idea I've ever heard, even if the article itself is terrible.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 15:15 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

that's classic material

'go on Pep, tell us about your pizzas'

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 11 August 2016 20:45 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

bbc radio pundit following interview with Woy: "you really hope he can get a job in this country as a Director of Football and not have to go to China or America or somewhere like that"

because it would suck to work in those place, of course

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 December 2016 10:01 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4114400/Darren-Fletcher-Manchester-United-illness-dream-West-Brom.html

'People talk about teams pressing but we did that first and then Barcelona took it on,' Fletcher explained.

'Before that in Spain it was, "You have it, we have it and then let's see who is best with it". But they saw what United did and realised that was the way to go.

'It's perfect. You don't even let the opposition have the chance to be in that lovely nice game. Barca eliminated that, but we did that first.'

r|t|c, Saturday, 14 January 2017 23:50 (three years ago) link

Pep Guardiola has not had it all his own way at Manchester City and Fletcher's take on that and his belief in Pulis's methods are fascinating.

Fletcher said: 'I heard Guardiola speak about the English use of the 'second ball' and it was interesting. English teams recognise you can control a game without possession.

'Turning teams round, playing a ball up and not caring if you win the first ball but ensuring you win the second or third ball. That's unique to British football.

'I am not sure you get too many of those phrases in Spain, where your manager always talks about pass completion.

'That's why stats don't always work. There are times when I can play a pass that's not complete, but it's what this team needs.

'It can leave a good team facing its own goal. They have to put the ball out of play and then we have territory and a throw-in that we have worked at.

'So now the ball is in their area and we get a chance or a corner. We are progressing but I haven't completed a pass have I?

'So my stats are down but I have done my job.

'At Man City or Barcelona, your passing stats will be off the charts but you have to look at football with your eyes as well. A pass that goes five yards isn't always that dangerous, is it?'

To listen to the way Fletcher has broadened his understanding in two years is intriguing. He has designs on coaching and keeps thoughts and ideas in a notebook.

r|t|c, Saturday, 14 January 2017 23:51 (three years ago) link

christ help us all

trilby mouth (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2017 23:53 (three years ago) link

Fletcher is hardly that likeable is he? Suppose anyone looks good in comparison to Busquets. He was also pretty crap last season even before his mysterious virus

― Number None, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:34 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i kinda like him

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:47 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

makes the most of his talents

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:47 Bookmark

r|t|c, Saturday, 14 January 2017 23:59 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

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Newcastle 3-0 Rochdale

In all seriousness Rochdale play some lovely football on the eye and should be applauded for it, I guess. You don't concede goals like that under Keith Curle though.

opden gnash (imago), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:19 (two months ago) link

it's proving a poor night for lower-league goalies thinking they're iniesta, that's all

nothing wrong with passing it around the back if you have personnel who can handle it

opden gnash (imago), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 20:55 (two months ago) link

lower league goalies thinking they're iniesta are tempting fate. before they know it they'll find themselves growing grapes, sending their quids on running a bodega in sussex, until one day the sky cracks open, death reigneth and a voice from above booms: 'you're trying to make wine in england ffs, what did you expect other than excrutiating pain and unending suffering, mortal?'

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:24 (two months ago) link

:D

like nigel blackwell himself

opden gnash (imago), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:29 (two months ago) link

I'll take it!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:34 (two months ago) link

it's proving a poor night for lower-league goalies thinking they're iniesta, that's all

nothing wrong with passing it around the back if you have personnel who can handle it

Did you see the Bournemouth game at the weekend?

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:35 (two months ago) link

that guy is a lower-league goalie making his three or four career EPL appearances tbf

opden gnash (imago), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:37 (two months ago) link


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