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congratulations to jones, lichaj, and brek shea on their callups

con suelo, Friday, 1 October 2010 02:10 (nine years ago) link

Oct. 9, 2010 U.S. Men vs. Poland 7 p.m. CT Soldier Field
Chicago, Ill. Fox Soccer Channel & Galavision
Oct. 12, 2010 U.S. Men vs. Colombia 8 p.m. ET PPL Park
Chester, Pa. ESPN2 & Galavision

con suelo, Friday, 1 October 2010 02:10 (nine years ago) link

Goin' to the Poland game w/ about 50 or so S8 folx including a bunch of Polish fans, should be fun.

dan m, Friday, 1 October 2010 02:41 (nine years ago) link

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/news/newsid=1310662.html?cid=rssfeed&att=

Germany coach Joachim Low is concerned that next week's UEFA EURO 2012 qualifier against Turkey in Berlin could be an away game for his side given the amount of Turks living in the German capital.

hi dere welcome to our world

con suelo, Friday, 1 October 2010 04:41 (nine years ago) link

That should be a terrific match - those are two fabulous attacking sides.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 1 October 2010 06:09 (nine years ago) link

lol thought u were talking abt us and poland for a sec and was like Whut

con suelo, Friday, 1 October 2010 06:47 (nine years ago) link

a 4-2-3-1 is intriguing, tho I don't know if they can play like that yet

dan m, Friday, 1 October 2010 16:25 (nine years ago) link

would be good to try and get more midfielders out there, our 1 strong suit

con suelo, Friday, 1 October 2010 16:34 (nine years ago) link

Ives had a 4-3-2-1 xmas tree posted with Jones, Bradley, and Edu as the 3... just call that one "the bone-cruncher"

dan m, Friday, 1 October 2010 16:42 (nine years ago) link

btw Bradley on the late run to goal is one of my favorite sights to see w/ these guys

dan m, Friday, 1 October 2010 16:42 (nine years ago) link

hi dere welcome to our world

yeah

also cosign on the potential of that game

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 1 October 2010 16:43 (nine years ago) link

just learned Lichaj's from Chicago and his parents are Polish immigrants

dan m, Friday, 1 October 2010 18:15 (nine years ago) link

wish he would grow his hair back out
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/unc/sports/m-soccer/auto_headshot/573906.jpeg

mizzell, Friday, 1 October 2010 18:18 (nine years ago) link

report on Charlie Davies' comeback and some o_O scar pics

http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/5655430/soccer-us-forward-charlie-davies-talks-recovery-espn-magazine

dan m, Thursday, 7 October 2010 14:45 (nine years ago) link

lineup
4-5-1 w/ edu at centerback huh

Howard;
Cherundolo, Onyewu, Edu, Bocanegra;
Jones, Bradley, Holden, Dempsey, Feilhaber;
Altidore.

i'll be curious to see how high dempsey plays. and gooch is really ready for this, is he? wanna see lichaj at some point

avinha, Saturday, 9 October 2010 23:05 (nine years ago) link

Does anyone else think the US goal was offside? I'm heavily medicated with Nyquil and my eyes are burning but F thought it was.

I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Sunday, 10 October 2010 00:33 (nine years ago) link

from that camera angle it sure seemed so.

avinha, Sunday, 10 October 2010 00:56 (nine years ago) link

gooch is driving me crazy, booting it out of the back

avinha, Sunday, 10 October 2010 01:08 (nine years ago) link

bedoya for feilhaber, is that all we've got as far as possible forward-looking changes?

avinha, Sunday, 10 October 2010 01:08 (nine years ago) link

^wrote at halftime but could have said it later tbh

huh. jones looked good, physical, except for his fuckup. same with holden, great except for his fuckup. so many chances, both jozy's and the set pieces. thank god for tim howard

avinha, Sunday, 10 October 2010 02:14 (nine years ago) link

fun times, good seats, lots and lots of poles

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs368.ash2/64641_444156571895_509986895_5400916_6674090_n.jpg

they looked like a team with a bunch of guys who don't quite know how to play together yet, and I still am not sure if 4-5-1 is something they can pull off. jones/holden were fun to watch tho.

dan m, Sunday, 10 October 2010 15:47 (nine years ago) link

What do you guys do with those things?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 October 2010 06:48 (nine years ago) link

nod sagely

avinha, Monday, 11 October 2010 12:10 (nine years ago) link

i'm still trying to learn how to watch the game. i want to understand a midfielder's most common passing locations. i want to see passing lanes before they develop. this was jones' first game with us. does the visual representation match what i saw on tv? what doesn't the chart tell me (in this case, about his physicality) ? if i look at enough of these what patterns will i see? i have so much trouble comparing two players against two different teams, could this help?

avinha, Monday, 11 October 2010 12:24 (nine years ago) link

where, how, and who did he link up with? (have to reach to remember the who) what was his average pass length?

i'm american, i love stats and charts, this chart may not tell me much but can we be so sure that the tenth or hundreth chart won't reveal something? we never know where tactical breakthroughs are going to come, who will see the game differently. i will stick to national type and hope it's us lol

avinha, Monday, 11 October 2010 12:31 (nine years ago) link

^ could totally get behind this level of analysis for spurs, tbh. the analysis of what players do that works during a game. i bet mourinho is up to his neck in this shit.

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:32 (nine years ago) link

I assume you meant Allardyce

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 October 2010 13:37 (nine years ago) link

easy mistake to make, that

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:39 (nine years ago) link

I'm not knocking the concept either btw - if there's going to be some revolutionary development in the game (there only appears to ever have been two so far as I can tell) then I'm pretty persuaded that it'll come from some kind of synthesis of this and set-plays. I'm sure not going to be able to spot it though.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 October 2010 13:41 (nine years ago) link

i think it's fair to speculate that improvement on a systemic level can come from the analysis of repeated actions

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:45 (nine years ago) link

/banaka

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:46 (nine years ago) link

what were those two revolutionary developments ismael ?

Jibe, Monday, 11 October 2010 14:40 (nine years ago) link

442, sam allardyce

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:44 (nine years ago) link

I've written about them before, but basically:

(i) the Scottish passing game taking over from kick-and-rush around the 1880s; and
(ii) the whole pressing/offside trap/possession system of Ajax in the 1960s.

We're basically still exploring the world invented by (ii). There's a terrific book (Inverting the Pyramid by Jonathan Wilson) looking at the development of tactics through the ages, not sure if it'll've reached your shores Jibe. There are lots of interesting innovations discussed in it, but those two seem to be the big ones. The others usually mostly happen every few years when one guy stands in a slightly different position, and everyone else gets confused

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 October 2010 14:53 (nine years ago) link

And that's my 10,000th post. It's been a pleasure, I'd like to thank my agent, etc.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 October 2010 14:54 (nine years ago) link

congrats, it was worthy imo

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:56 (nine years ago) link

ok thx. that book looks quite interesting, will try and get ahold of it as soon as my finances allow me to.

Jibe, Monday, 11 October 2010 16:13 (nine years ago) link

football finances thread

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 16:16 (nine years ago) link

It's a great read, enlightened me to many things + helped me relate my hockey tactical knowledge to similarities on the pitch.

dan m, Monday, 11 October 2010 16:45 (nine years ago) link

apparently Spector is starting tonight, should be a lot of other changes too

dan m, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:36 (nine years ago) link

also lol @ < 10k tickets sold for this match, wtf

dan m, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:37 (nine years ago) link

apparently Spector is starting tonight

GAAHHHHHHHH

avinha, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:39 (nine years ago) link

we are mediocre huh. lucky for us colombia is so far too

i love edu's composure on the ball. he doesn't make me start drumming my fingers nervously in possession.
it seems like holden out wide takes away a lot of what's best about him: getting involved, cutting into passing lanes. you'd think the idea would be he'd send in crosses from out wide, but i don't think he's had a cross yet.

EJ for jozy? lichaj for spector (hey, he was only burned twice! not bad). any other changes?

avinha, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 01:16 (nine years ago) link

lichaj looked good
ummm, other positives?

(we need to put it down on record that our first shot on goal was in the 55th minute)

avinha, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 02:23 (nine years ago) link

I was at the Fire/KC game so I missed this. Doesn't sound like much of note. From the descriptions I've read/heard it sounded like a 4-3-3? Last time I saw that Costa Rica kicked their ass.

dan m, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 03:58 (nine years ago) link

yeah i guess it was a 4-3-3, in the first half. jozy was so marooned and alone i'm tempted to call it 4-3-2-1. but i'm bad with formations. brek shea looked okay, not totally outclassed at this level with his first cap, so that's something. EJ came in at HT and edu went out (i think, i missed some) so the formation changed but i'm not sure how. the second half was better, dempsey with some spark, but yeah, you didn't miss much.

avinha, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 05:58 (nine years ago) link

the pronunciation of Lichaj's name sounds exactly the same a "lihai" (厉害) which is a common slang word in Chinese that means "awesome."

avinha, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 19:39 (nine years ago) link

same for (Luis) Figo in Italian (actually 'fico', but close enough) - any other examples?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 19:51 (nine years ago) link

otm

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 00:19 (three years ago) link

theyre not booing theyre yelling brooooooooce

tha frash prance (alomar lines), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 07:46 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

Pulisic is fun to watch

I want to change my display name (dan m), Saturday, 25 March 2017 03:31 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Michael Bradley cabrones

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 12 June 2017 00:40 (two years ago) link

Lol we had 26% possession?

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 June 2017 03:39 (two years ago) link

Arenaball! Saw a tweet where he was quoted as saying they've been practicing this way for this game since camp began.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 12 June 2017 04:00 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

lol

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 22:47 (two years ago) link

Huge difference between US tie and loss. Loss would likely force US to win last 2 games just to make the playoff.

— Grant Wahl (@GrantWahl) September 5, 2017

lol

perhaps given all that's happened in this stupid country in the past year or so, it'd be better if we sat Russia out

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 22:48 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

was at the Panama game the other night. p electric atmosphere, and not gonna lie it was fun watching Pulisic toying w/ em for 60 minutes

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 18:31 (two years ago) link

lolsob

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 02:05 (two years ago) link

usa is over, they cant be a county anymore

professor of postmalonial studies (m bison), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 02:15 (two years ago) link

country, either, heh

professor of postmalonial studies (m bison), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 02:15 (two years ago) link

Honestly there's a pretty big part of me that is okay with not having a big nationalistic event in the current climate.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 02:28 (two years ago) link

Bringing back Bruce Arena felt like a step backwards imo

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 02:30 (two years ago) link

Yeah but the problems are much deeper than him.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 03:05 (two years ago) link

Big Sam for usmnt coach

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:01 (two years ago) link

I've been busy, has anyone been fired or resigned yet?

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:29 (two years ago) link

Nobody out yet, but it has to be coming. This was pretty spot on from Wahl: https://www.si.com/soccer/2017/10/11/us-soccer-sunil-gulati-president-usmnt-world-cup-qualifying-failure

The idea of Julie Foudy at the top of the organization is very interesting. Our women know how to win.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:09 (two years ago) link

ok this is great

This tweet is very funny to a specific set of soccer fans. pic.twitter.com/F75m2NCidy

— Shawn Francis (@TheOffsideRules) October 12, 2017

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 13 October 2017 03:49 (two years ago) link

This was pretty spot on from Wahl

Should I lol at him suggesting Bielsa as the US coach?

Commandolin Wind (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 October 2017 03:56 (two years ago) link

Sure, but at this point it's not a whole lot crazier than anything else people are suggesting.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 13 October 2017 13:34 (two years ago) link

Arena out, Gulati sticking around.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 13 October 2017 16:15 (two years ago) link

“It’s not the proper day to talk about my personal future with the federation,” Gulati said.

mizzell, Friday, 13 October 2017 17:28 (two years ago) link

really?

mizzell, Friday, 13 October 2017 17:28 (two years ago) link

The next elections are in February, the position is unpaid, and he allegedly makes a shitton of money off his travel business (which, surprise, does most of USSF's bookings) and his position with the Revs.

The one good thing I've noticed is more and more of the top journalists covering the federation (Wahl, Goff, the Howler guys, etc) getting much more critical with their coverage of his roles.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 13 October 2017 17:48 (two years ago) link

Setting aside the fifth-most lucrative sport in the country stuff, would Americans find the European academy system of development palatable? Taking 8-year olds out of school for academy schooling and booting them if they don't improve enough, etc..

In youth baseball there's a movement to make it less of a year round sport - are soccer parents going to be okay with turning it INTO a 10-month sport?

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 13 October 2017 21:46 (two years ago) link

Serious soccer parents are already off the deep end imo, adding months to the season doesn’t seem like a tipping point for that crowd, at least not to me.

El Tomboto, Friday, 13 October 2017 21:54 (two years ago) link

those academies are kinda morally questionable, idk if 'maybe we just need to be throwing young kids into a machine so 1% come out good at soccer' is a great solution.

iatee, Saturday, 14 October 2017 00:45 (two years ago) link

AFAIK there are already Euro style academies here, the problem is they've only existed for a few years and they're competing with pay-to-play clubs and coaches who have been around a lot longer, and hence pull more weight. The goal for a lot of people is getting a college scholarship, not becoming a pro.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Saturday, 14 October 2017 01:00 (two years ago) link

I agree about the academies but I'm also not invested in the USMNT being particularly competitive - I'm happy enough supporting some other country I have a vague rooting interest in when the World Cup rolls around.

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 14 October 2017 01:57 (two years ago) link

Big Sam for usmnt coach

― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:01 AM (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sam Allardyce has put himself forward to be the next U.S. national team manager.@MarkOgden_ https://t.co/LcoXStpUur pic.twitter.com/dsrctE20o8

— ESPN UK (@ESPNUK) October 17, 2017

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 14:57 (two years ago) link

There's a module ready to be delivered.

Tim, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 15:04 (two years ago) link

this is getting silly

Sam Allardyce is your betting favorite to succeed Bruce Arena as USA coach with Cabbage Man Capello on offer at a tasty 25/1, per BetVictor. pic.twitter.com/1A1lgZTx3T

— Bryan Armen Graham (@BryanAGraham) October 19, 2017

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:06 (two years ago) link

Tab Ramos or Peter Vermes have to be the favorites from that list

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:08 (two years ago) link

they should go with an outsider, like bob dylan.

wmlynch, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:20 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

To recap:

USSF has lame-duck president with 8 possible replacements and no clear front-runner

A caretaker in charge of #usmnt for foreseeable future

No World Cup this summer

And now a promising young MF from junior national teams jumping to archrival Mexico

Good times

— Steven Goff (@SoccerInsider) January 8, 2018

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:54 (one year ago) link

although nicely done eric lichaj, mentioned in the OP

Out of his mind! 🤯 @EricLichaj nets a beauty to bag his brace vs. Arsenal.https://t.co/nYWgudbL2x

— U.S. Soccer MNT (@ussoccer_mnt) January 7, 2018

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:54 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

A friend works for USSoccer's PR office and put a lot of work into making these videos which imo are very good and worth watching.

https://www.ussoccer.com/RISING

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 16 July 2018 17:03 (one year ago) link

three months pass...
three weeks pass...

Just when you think USSF couldn't get any weirder: https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/12/06/us-soccer-foundation-federation-lawsuit-ussf

The U.S. Soccer Foundation, an independent charitable organization that has invested $125 million over the last 25 years to provide access to soccer, largely in minority and low-income communities, sued the U.S. Soccer Federation on Thursday in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

Ed Foster-Simeon, the president and CEO of the U.S. Soccer Foundation, told SI.com he was stunned in August when U.S. Soccer requested a meeting in which it said it was ending the relationship between the two organizations—the federation president has always sat on the foundation’s board—and demanded that the foundation abandon the name “U.S. Soccer Foundation” and its logos.

Also, new coach!

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:44 (eleven months ago) link

six months pass...

6-0!

Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Sunday, 23 June 2019 06:24 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

Lol @ that Boyd miss

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 00:25 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Lol

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:59 (one month ago) link

Lol

― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:59 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 03:32 (one month ago) link

Like dear god CANADA?

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 03:38 (one month ago) link

Players don't respect/like the coach, plus most aren't as good as they think they are.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 03:43 (one month ago) link

Berhalter era off to a swimming start.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 03:44 (one month ago) link

gahh glad i didnt watch

alomar lines, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 04:46 (one month ago) link


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