TOTTENHAM ARE STILL A BIG CLUB!

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Lock thread forever if they lose in the CL qualification against HB Tórshavn or whoever.

them losing in qualification to the random european team schteeeve takes over is gonna be joeks.

i know tax evasion and robot dance and eurgh but of all the spurs teams I can remember, this is def. the one i'm ok w/ being (moderately) successful.

For decades the debate has raged about who, Spurs or Man City, are the biggest bottlers. Now we know.

oh I think that debate has only just started tbh.

i thought Arsenal ended that debate a while back

Arsenal are still a big club.

There are two teams in North London.

Other big clubs who finish 4th in England: Everton, Newcastle, Leeds.

Bottlers, Matt? Wasn't it just that we were beaten by the better side last night? I don't think the players choked at all - they gave it a right go, but weren't good enough.

Well done, Spurs.

^ the kind of thing that means I don't hate City, yet

Bottlers is one of the most overused bits of jargon in football imo but yeah I think Spurs had fourth place for a decent enough chunk of 09-10 for it not to be the issue at hand here

"Bottlers" seems tied in to that weird desire to make out like footballers are morally deficient for not being good enough to win matches sometimes.

I guess so many of Spurs' standouts this season being old hands is belated redemption for the weakness of their digestive tracts during Lasagnegate.

Don't think the City players choked, but Mancini's tactics were pretty reserved in the second half.

But tbh either team were good value for CL spot this year ahead of Liverpool and boring boring Villa

"Bottlers" seems tied in to that weird desire to make out like footballers are morally deficient for not being good enough to win matches sometimes.

Yes, and some people accuse footballers of "lacking passion" when they're not up to scratch in a given game (or in general).

Some teams do lack passion. Newcastle last year were, player for player, easily good enough to stay up, they just didn't care enough.

Adebayor, for both Man City last night (maybe in other games? I dunno) and whenever I saw him last season for Arsenal.

They looked short of ideas in midfield as well without Ireland. You're not going to get much in the way of incisive passing with De Jong and Barry in there, especially compared to Modric/Huddlestone. There were times when Kolo Toure seemed like their best attacking midfielder.

The persistent talk of them selling Ireland just confuses ever more after a performance like that, it's true.

Adebayor, for both Man City last night (maybe in other games? I dunno) and whenever I saw him last season for Arsenal.

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Dunno... the guy did get shot at for playing football. He looked like he was kinda getting back to form before that. 'bottlers' to me are more about the Berbatovs and lol Bordeaux this season, when there is really no excuse why supremely talented top of the table types (lol hungover alliteration) just chuck it in for no reason.

and yeah newcastle a prime example.

Other big clubs who finish 4th in England: Everton, Newcastle, Leeds.

... Arsenal, this year

Well lets hope Spurs follow our achievements in being 1 of 3 teams to qualify for the CL every season for a decade.

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Adebayor hadn't been shot at while playing out his last 6 months in an Arsenal team that badly needed a leader from the front last season.

Maye those guys were actually gunners, ifyagetme.

Berbatov- another example of Ferguson's tactical shortcomings. Players either work or they don't, and if they don't then it's their fault.

wait, that picture holds like a million questions...

berbatov was supremely talented when Spurs were last as well tbrr

If Spurs had drawn with Man City and then lost to Burnley, that would have counted as bottling.

yep.

if jol had dropped robinson at any stage over 2 years, it wouldn't have been counted as bottling.

not rocket science- when you don't bottle you're not bottling.

beating city, arsenal and chelsea in the last 5 games to seal it is basically anti-jol/bottle stuff.

sam- yeah berbatov was supremely talented when spurs were bottom! don't understand where yer goin with that tbh.

fergie likes his players to huff and puff, berba was never going to fit in. the only successful stroller of the fergie years was Cantona.

i dunno tbh. not really up to thinking today.

anyone done a list yet of who else might be in the qualifying pot? i vote martin lol reunion with ajax.

vs martin jol in a one-off, vital match?

bring it on. we'll loan them jenas.

even luis fabiano is beginning to believe

Usually that's the sort of thing players say when they're trying to attract Arsenal's interest but hey, we're a Champions League club now.

well, in fairness it's only two weeks since we got not much more that a disdainful sniff from him, but we've gone and got our hair done in a metaphorical sense.

L-R Spurs, Fabiano

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Other way round isn't it?

eh i dunno i'm not really a grease fanatic tbh. but i don't think so. or did they both oh i don't know

Both sing the chorus but it's Danny doing all the chasing.

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The Craig McLachlan & Debbie Gibson version is probably more apt for a not big club.
(also note url mattscdsingles.com almost has a Spurs fan in it)

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is it too much to ask that the sponsor's blue matches the rest of the kit?

Is it just his shorts that come with the knee bandage or do they all get them?

oh dear

not feeling it :/

could grow on me, it's kinda german club team in style.

No you don't understand, Ledley's injury has got so bad he's got a job in a leisure centre.

Or maybe as a holiday rep.

shorts mightn't be helping but is top half don't fit on his bottom alf proper

lock thread, tbh

*pops popcorn, charges phone*

Looking forward to find out who you end up supporting darragh

tottenham youth

Don't think that's where Poch is going

well its a safe place to avoid mourinho

lol

I have come the the conclusion recently that I hate football so this appointment works for me on a number of levels.

How convenient :)

will say this

cant accuse levy of taking the easy route

Trip to Old Trafford two weeks today should be fun

Glad I got my ticket for the Chelsea match. Crowd response will be interesting for the Bournemouth..

Crazy thing is whilst Spurs are languishing in 14th place, because most of the other teams are also a crock of shit this season, if we'd just won the Brighton game we'd currently be 5th.

crazy thing is being 14th when all other teams are shit tbh

jesus that is huge, absolutely huge

Toby?

yep

I wonder how this influences Vertonghen.

Does he stay on now?

guess yes

tho hes not as automatic or urgent a case imo, hes lost a few yards this summer

if jose can operate without such a high line then that pair has a year or two left, if not then jan is destined for a covering cb/lb role until his contract winds down maybe

I'm quite happy with Sanchez and Toby at CB and Vertonghen at LB. Even at LB Vertonghen is a better option that Rose or Davies, and the two Belgians together aren't pacy enough any more.

More than anything else we desperately need to sign a defensive midfielder who can complement Ndombele. Even if it's just on loan.

Sanchez's mistakes tend to be down to lack of experience rather than physical attributes, he desperately needs a run in the team because he could become great.

Jan looked chasing after Adama like when as kids my dad would jump in for a few minutes

certainly that's not sustainable, at lb

Matic is available

agreed that jan at lb is not going to do the job that our lb has been asked to do the past five years

whether we keep asking either of our full backs to carry so much water remains to be seen tho

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Also, Bergwijn probably in for youse (deems and I agreed a fee on whatsapp earlier). He's leaving a club in disarray though, with mgmt not having ok'd him doing a medical at Spurs.

thought psv manager admitted sulkily that hed told him go ahead

sounded like it mightve been a bit pass-agg mind

I was surprised he is only 22, he seems to have been around for ages. Would probably prefer Malen but he’d likely cost 3x as much.

The (interim) manager sulkily did, big boss man didn't tho. We're in a shambles rn and though not the best of looks I honestly can't blame the lad for fleeing the scene.

Malen a different player (more of a striker), he'd cost you more though yeah.

A striker is what we need tbh, though Piatek still a possibility.

need two from the top, two from the middle and two small ones pls carol

Malen isn't available anyway, he'll likely miss the Euros because of a knee injury, he's out for the season.

well, yeah?

backup for kane

Striker and holding midfielder desperately needed at the moment but it's very hard to imagine any really good CF wanting to come to Spurs given Kane's obvious pre-eminence.

foyth, kwp, rose, wanyama all available, lamela an option too if rumours are to be believed

romantic in me says the first two have players in them if a full season loan could beat sloppiness out of them but idk do players improve anymore or do they just work in a system or for a manager or not

We can confirm the departure of Christian Eriksen who has today completed a transfer to Inter Milan.

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We are delighted to announce that we have exercised the option to convert the loan of @LoCelsoGiovani from Real Betis to a permanent transfer.

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That’s great news.

That's excellent, Lo Celso has looked really good in his last few games.

Now if we could sign someone who isn't an attacking midfielder it would be very nice.

striker, dm, fullbacks in that order of priority, but hes an excellent signing and is at least an alternative in a few positions

Agreed with that, although Son can pay CF and I'm curious as to how Dele would manage there. We don't have anyone who can play DM competently and it shows in our results.

saw the gk stats today and our two lads rank very highly in terms of save % from both inside and outside the box, which backs up the viewing evidence that we are very very soft indeed to get at, and while dm and fullback positioning are a huge part of it, the complete lack of a player up the field in any way capable of holding onto the ball is definitely a factor.

son wont solve that, lucas doesnt solve that, we dont play in a way that utilises the pace of either at CF

dele is a disaster case recently. three or four moments a game spread out among really careless and lazy decisions. hes also lost a disturbing amount of pace for a 23 year old who did not start out particularly quick.

tactically we could make do with the personnel available in the other positions imo (either we arent, or they arent listening) but there is nobody to do even the non-scoring part of the job up the pitch and its killing us

We are very awkward in transitions these days as well, Lo Celso and Ndombele are both good at playing those passes (as tbf is Winks) but there doesn't seem to be any combination of midfielders that works and they need someone better than Dier behind them who can mop up and let them play.

Dembele was the full package who could do everything but how often does a midfielder like that turn up?

if there are no players that fulfil your vital role, you need to design another role

tbh im not sure that any of our options *couldnt* be the patrol-and-pass conservative midfielder we need, but we seem to keep asking them to also be the one to break through lines, track the runs from central that son, lucas and dele dont (ie all of them) and cover both full backs at once

somebody, somewhere is doing not very much not very efficiently, and yep dembele was a genius one-off but eric dier can still do three or four things well, as can winks, if we allow that nobody is going to do it all for us like moussa did once upon a time

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Fare well, Stevie. And be careful out there.

Ouch

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lol

fuckim