i mean i know thudd is carrying timber but he doesnt look in bad shape there imo
― "fear of putting out" in one's early thirties (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link
yeah his 40yard dash time should be inching under 5.8 seconds
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 15 August 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
the line about huddlestone that he was a 16st xabi alonso cast before the swine of english fitba is about as accurate as those sentiments usually are
his notable skill is being able to drop well weighted passes over 20-60 yards with minimal backlift and a lowish trajectory but with a slight backspin so it sits at the feet of the recipient
it's a neat trick to have but it's also the most common such talent for an english midfielder or pseudo midfielder to have, gerrard, carrick, twp &c
his control and short passing are not especially good
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 15 August 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link
disagree obv
his first touch some ways better than most english midfielders
he's considerably better on his second foot than most english footballers
his weighted passes are consistently better, and at their best far better, than other english players
― "fear of putting out" in one's early thirties (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link
the epl is 70% non english and creative midfielders are probably more like 80% so it's scarcely worth comparing him only to his reliably lumpen compatriots
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 16 August 2013 00:11 (ten years ago) link
it is when he's not getting a game in that lumpen midfield imo
but then he was getting one for ours either i spose
interesting to see if he makes international squad with a run
― "fear of putting out" in one's early thirties (darraghmac), Friday, 16 August 2013 00:22 (ten years ago) link
I think Gerrard has a tendency to put too much on those long low passes and Carrick doesn't have Thudd's passing range or cunting ability. Both make up for those shortcomings by being able to move.
― Rummmpatitum, Rummmpatitum Traboo, Traboo, Traboo (onimo), Friday, 16 August 2013 10:26 (ten years ago) link
Both significantly older fwiw
― "fear of putting out" in one's early thirties (darraghmac), Friday, 16 August 2013 10:49 (ten years ago) link
in terms of ability to move that's not a positive
but hey i love Thudd too and i am having weirdly ambivalent feelings about Steve Bruce lately. i think City will be alright.
― http://valawyersweekly.com/files/2009/12/important-ops-logo.jpg (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 August 2013 11:06 (ten years ago) link
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva
u will oblige, tbh, by listing the furriners in england who surpass our lad thudd in the metrics suggested btw
― "fear of putting out" in one's early thirties (darraghmac), Friday, 16 August 2013 11:16 (ten years ago) link
He's made a perfect career move. Midfields have to be built around him, and at Spurs this was not the case. He's looking absolutely imperious at Hull. Obviously an England recall would be out of the question as Wilshere is his more-mobile equivalent, although I think Thudd's deep-lying style is more suited to controlled possession football - perhaps Wilshere will develop in this regard. Thudd's a better passer and dead-ball striker. Let the love-in continue!
― C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
wilsheres best skill is carrying the ball between the lines with lil bursts then playing off of the attacking midfielders / forwards like ilkay gundogan with a feltham YOI demeanour and haircut
can see other teams looking for similar skillets
huddlestone isnt really like that at all
― Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
veratti should be better than wilshere or ilkay because he can do everything wilshere can do but with real playmaking intelligence
― Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
yeah but wilshere is the player england are looking to build their team around
a wilshere - huddlestone CM would be an interesting experiment though
― C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
i dont really care about england
huddlestone wilshere is quite a complementary central midfield
― Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
i dont rate huddlestone that highly but id like to see what he does with a few months starting for hull, the epl lacks interesting players in those sort of teams
― Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
cleverley & milner though. keepin it solid bruv
england won't select thudd so this is moot. let's talk about hull. ridiculous flair quotient for supposed lumpen relegation trash
― C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
di canio getting rid of one of the only interesting players in that tranche and giving him to wba was probably not the best decision
― Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
what else are hull doing, is meyler playing, is gamelad brady still being game, who is aluko, why is aluko
― Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
when Sunderland signed Giaccherini I thought it was the wing-back who played for Italy in the recent Euros and was excited, but I'd gotten the name wrong
― C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
?? that was Giaccherini
― Third Rate Zoo Keepers With Tenth Rate Minds (Windsor Davies), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
gamelad brady scored a game finish & assisted the 2nd goal, so steve bruce subbed him off for flair merchant supreme george boyd who set up the winner quite brilliantly
bruce deserves quite a lot of credit for this & how he's set up hull to retain possession and build slowly
elmohamedy (sp?) is a speedy winger/fullback with a decent cross & brain, but thudd & aluko alone make hull worth watching. aluko is like a little buzzing bee who pops up everywhere doing impressive things & skinning opponents. and occasionally thwacking in amazing volleys
this Giaccherini is a striker, maybe they're brothers, Italian football does brothers more than any other major nation I think
― C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
oh it is the same one
paolo you're a shit. play him where he's supposed to be
― C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
I haven't really watched him tbh, but for some reason in my head he's not a million miles away from Weimann in terms of skillset. That could be way off the mark though
― Third Rate Zoo Keepers With Tenth Rate Minds (Windsor Davies), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
hes mostly played in attacking midfield in italy i think
― Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
he is i would guess about 8" shorter than weimz
― Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
low centre of gravity scampering sub-giovinco supra-stephen hunt lateral utility drone
yeah that may not be far off, i'm always taken aback by weimann's heigh when i see him in the flesh. usually imagine him as quite a diminutive chap
― Third Rate Zoo Keepers With Tenth Rate Minds (Windsor Davies), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
haha xp
he scored a headed goal in the first game, assumed he was a standard CF
attacking midfield in italy rarely = attacking midfield here, especially when playing alongside conor wickham
― C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link
kinda want to discuss steve bruce's unlikely being a good manager tho
― C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
weimzi was playing #9 vs germany the other week
― Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
what are weimann's obvious attributes
i don't notice him much until he's popped up in front of goal. gather he must have pace & awareness as primary skillset
― C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
hes quickish for his size, not especially skilful but can find space and is a good finisher
not dissimilar to the way podolski plays for arsenal or the german nt
― Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
someone compared him to dempsey on here not so long ago, seemed kinda otm - not necessarily a good footballer but an effective one. works hard, makes good runs, which makes him look quicker than he actually is. as a result he often does that thing of just being in the right place at the right time. gives off the vibe of being a good finisher whilst still missing potloads of chances. endeared himself to the fans by being prepared to accept that he wasn't going to be the central striker and apparently committing fully to being a high energy presence on the flank, tracks back well etc.
― Third Rate Zoo Keepers With Tenth Rate Minds (Windsor Davies), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
find it surprising he'd be a #9 then - that sort of player would probably need a skilful & physically dominant player alongside to thrive, mostly for the purpose of distracting defenders
― C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
villa seem to be playing him as a replacement milner, maybe a bit further forward. which is FAIR ENOUGH probably
― C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link
dempsey isnt a bad comparison, more so than the hypertrophic jawline drone
― Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 21 September 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link
what about dirk kuyt
gonna keep this up all night maybe
― C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Saturday, 21 September 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
dempsey has a lot more swag than weimann. cf chip vs juventus
heavy drinking has turned my posting style into a hoy hoy's. perhaps time for a ban
― C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Saturday, 21 September 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
ilf is missing a hoy at least in the high volume a hoy of 2k10 vintage
― Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 21 September 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
re: Kuyt Yeahh, maybe. I think Weimann has it in him to be more prolific from the flank than Kuyt was. 12 goals in 38 isn't a bad return for a lad playing in our shower of shite (as we were for much of last year) and I think he could push on well past that if he keeps progressing
― Third Rate Zoo Keepers With Tenth Rate Minds (Windsor Davies), Saturday, 21 September 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
let's start a thread
― C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Saturday, 21 September 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link
at least 1/3 as obsessive as this one
<3
― VENIET IMBER (imago), Saturday, 28 December 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
Sad realisation that i like this guy a lot more than the club he left
― lorde othering (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 December 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link
oh Thudd is totally my Premiership team yeah
― VENIET IMBER (imago), Saturday, 28 December 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
saw the second half; to say he was imperious does augustus c a grand deal of flattery
― VENIET IMBER (imago), Saturday, 28 December 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link
it was fulham, lads
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Saturday, 28 December 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
The fulham that fucked us out of cl place at whl this sixmonth past, tbh theyve prob fucked us since but thats the one avb can thank
― lorde othering (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 December 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link