Maybe take some of the Britishes interest navel-gazing out of the proper World Cup thread I thought?
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:52 (twelve years ago) link
Lennon Huddlestone Wilshere Young Agbonlahor Walcottc'mon fabio you know it makes sense
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:41 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Maybe I shall regret going here but I wonder what it is about those guys that mightn't appeal to England's core fan demographic as much as Lamps and Stevie and Rooney and Barry
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:42 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
can't understand who chairmen/managers think they're pleasing when they buy a player in to sit on the bench and play 5 times a season.
In Scottish football, historically this has been a method used by the Celtic and Rangers to make sure they have the player and no-one else does
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:43 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
ooooh NV
cmon seriously?
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:46 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
As long as they're winning they'll be fine
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:47 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I dunno. No, not seriously, but let us consider the "type" of an England "hero". Let's think of Stuart Pearce's bulging neck veins as he shouts for Carling in that ad or whatever. I mean "Englishness" is a definite thing for a lot of the England hardcore. And I definitely think the FA is more bothered about the Brand than the football, tbh.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:48 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
There's a shitload to unpack in what are widely considered the virtues of the English game compared to the virtues that other big football nations espouse. I really really don't want to kick start a clusterfuck but it was a fleeting thought when I looked at that front 6 of darragh's up there.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:50 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
saw the england-usa game in a south london pub where the guy behind me was a passionate england fan who shouted abuse at the team from the start, culminating in calling robert green a "fucking paki". so i could imagine this becoming a thing.
― joe, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:52 (21 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:53 (twelve years ago) link
Thought this could be a general argument about the England team rather than a race clusterfuck but am leaving the steps that led here in the interests of full disclosure.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/worldcup2010/3033609/Is-David-Beckham-the-man-to-replace-Fabio-Capello.html
oh, great.
― joe, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 09:59 (twelve years ago) link
Somebody told me that one at work yesterday. Got plenty of love for Becks but I rolled about laughing at the idea. He's too much of a politician to want the job I'd've thought.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:00 (twelve years ago) link
yeah this was needed tbh
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:01 (twelve years ago) link
I suppose the model there is Klinsmann and Germany
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:01 (twelve years ago) link
if only for the poetry
Becks has no coaching badges, no managerial experience and has never courted the job. So on the surface he would seem a high-risk successor.
But
Classic But
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:01 (twelve years ago) link
becks is no klinsmann
Sheringham won't take it, seems to have no interest in coaching.
scholes hates the publicity
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:02 (twelve years ago) link
You're gonna be stuck with Gary Neville imo
what England needs is a player-manager.
but that man must be Maradona.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:02 (twelve years ago) link
Seriously Beckham might be more use to English football right now if he got involved with FA politics à la Brooking.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:04 (twelve years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8766476.stm
g taylor talks sense here imo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8688093.stm
this article a chastening example: According to European football's governing body Uefa, Spain had almost 15,000 Uefa A and Pro Licence coaches in 2008 - more than double the number of any other European nation. And that is despite it taking 750 study hours to acquire a Pro Licence in Spain, compared with just 245 in England.
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:04 (twelve years ago) link
Should go the whole hog and have John Terry as player-manager if England have no hope of anything ever for the next 10 years.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:06 (twelve years ago) link
xp saying that, the english u20s are looking pretty good actually
guess they always do though
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:06 (twelve years ago) link
Capello will get massive abuse in the media and inevitably eventually the sack, and will likely largely get off the hook here. I reckon the media closer to the truth than we are - the guy created an unhappy camp, took a poor and unadventurous squad, and in any case you're not telling me that that team couldn't've been put out to perform better than that. But I'd still keep him because:
- the guy's track record is still outstanding, even with this massive blot on it- you don't get a track record like that without learning from your mistakes - no way are England going to turn up at another tournament looking like that- surely this debacle is at least partly the result of him acting against his instincts - let him have free reign, and if it means a lot of bruised egos well so be it, massaged egos haven't brought results either- he's getting paid whatever - giving possibly the outstanding club manager of the last twenty years £10m not to work for you is indefensible right now- realistically, what's the alternative?
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:06 (twelve years ago) link
- realistically, what's the alternative?
A Scottish manager
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:08 (twelve years ago) link
england u-20s have always looked good, yeah.
the last england u-15 side i caught ina full match was pretty amazing, AFAIR a certain A johnson was only one of maybe three Middlesborough players in the midfield.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:08 (twelve years ago) link
Capello gets free rein from me for creating an unhappy camp, if the alternative is to create a happy camps of spoiled brats.
Bringing the 23 players he did, after picking what i thought was a very bright and encouraging 30 to begin with, yeah that's a black mark.
Selecting the 11-15 players he did from those 23 consistently regardless of performance- ey Fabio this ain't the league mate.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:10 (twelve years ago) link
rationally speaking capello should probably stay but the taint of failure is often insurmountable past a point
harry redknapp is the only alternative worth considering - he would do it but the tax fiddling's most likely knocked it on the head
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:10 (twelve years ago) link
i think whether the fa are prepared to pay £12m to scapegoat capello is going to be a good litmus test of their appetite for real reform, which is why i expect him to get the sack. if they wanted him to stay they could have said so immediately - after two weeks of speculation, he'll be glad to get out i imagine.
― joe, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:11 (twelve years ago) link
I'd keep Capello + get rid of Lamps + Gerrard.
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:12 (twelve years ago) link
How is letting Capello have his way not going to create another unhappy camp, unless different players are involved? And as you say, Capello picked the squad. So either this was a knowing ploy to get rid of a lot of the old guard after failure, or he's not the judge of a player we might've thought he was, or there's a near-insurmountable pressure to pick guys who aren't good enough/fit enough/mentally right that will still be there whoever Capello is replaced with.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:12 (twelve years ago) link
he's getting paid whatever - giving possibly the outstanding club manager of the last twenty years £10m not to work for you is indefensible right now
realest talk, but watch and learn
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:12 (twelve years ago) link
joe totally otm. Capello sacked, new boss, business as usual. Especially if the new boss is Arry as he would be the perfect expression of the FA as Business Ueber Alles.
― Mertesacker Emptiness (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:14 (twelve years ago) link
redknapp should be able to settle with the revenue. pay them £40,000, call it a misunderstanding. it'll all be dug up again the moment england go through a bad patch but i could see a desperate fa turning a blind eye now.
― joe, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:14 (twelve years ago) link
"ey Fabio this ain't the league mate" pretty much sums up dude's failings, yeah
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:14 (twelve years ago) link
Arry is also a great exponent of 442. Sticking with Capello would be the 451 thing to do, IMO
^yes I went there
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:15 (twelve years ago) link
Redknapp would be a disastrous international manager, he thrives on being able to bring in players to solve problems and if those players are just not out there in the 'market' I'm not sure he'd be able to fix things. Also the FA were pretty nervous about Venables' dodgy dealings and I'm not sure they'd take that risk with Redknapp. Also I don't want him to leave Spurs.
Hodgson at least has some experience as an international manager. He'll do.
― Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:15 (twelve years ago) link
Far as I can see, only 3 English managers having any degree of success at the moment: 'Arry, Hodgson (off to the 'Pool) and, errrr, Steve McClaren. Go for the younger man I say.
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:16 (twelve years ago) link
classic material from alan shearer's column in the sun today. it begins: "NO ONE likes kicking a man when he is down..."
oh yeah? http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/85000/images/_86318_alan_shearer_and_neil_lennon_after_kicking_incident300%2830-04-98%29allsport.jpg
― joe, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:17 (twelve years ago) link
Remember when Kings used to lead their armies back in ye olde times? Get Prince William in there and make that sponger earn his salary from The FA.
― They'll be dancing in the streets of Košice tonight (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:17 (twelve years ago) link
DAER SPURB FANZ wud u take swop caleppo and renkdapp
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:17 (twelve years ago) link
i can't remember where i read the slow cooking/fast food domestic league vs internationals analogy but i'd trust arry & sandra to whip a quick buffet sooner than fabio or woy tbh
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:18 (twelve years ago) link
Redknapp, and I don't want it to happen for two main reasons, would be the ideal manager for this group, and I think that he's done well out of players he already had at Spurs as well as buying them in Matt.
Also, that would be ignoring that he could 'bring in' any number of players like Walcott, Huddlestone, Dawson, Rodwell, Wilshere, Zamora, whoever.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:18 (twelve years ago) link
Bentley and Bent could suck it tho
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:19 (twelve years ago) link
Did Arry really say that about swapping a bentley for a honda on BBC after the Japan game btw?
Honda have quality cars, get into a Civic.
― They'll be dancing in the streets of Košice tonight (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:20 (twelve years ago) link
he did
it was a groaner but the shaggy-dog delivery was kinda impressive for a pundit imo
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:21 (twelve years ago) link
― They'll be dancing in the streets of Košice tonight (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:17 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Astride a horse = unwanted redux of Crouchch-on-as-sub high ball tactics
― matthew ugh, son (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:23 (twelve years ago) link
er, Crouch
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:17 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yes; Calippo would not
― matthew ugh, son (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:25 (twelve years ago) link
Astride a horse
http://www.fortunecity.com/bally/avoca/277/kingbilly.jpg
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:26 (twelve years ago) link
would definitely have capello as the successor to arry. he'd cane bentley up and down bill nick way imo
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:28 (twelve years ago) link
World Cup 2010: Blatter sorry for disallowed goal
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:34 (twelve years ago) link
sorry usually means you'll try not to let it happen again.
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:36 (twelve years ago) link
An idea that just occurred to me - absolute squad limits. Clubs pick their 23 men on day one and are stuck with them. You *can* buy youngsters to sit in the stands, but everyone would have to be honest about it. Any kids in the 23 would be guaranteed playing time. The other kids, if they had any useful mentality whatsoever, would go elsewhere. Also a handy way of (i) shifting talent down the pyramid a bit, and (ii) keeping budgets down a little.
Of course it'd have to apply to the premier league to achieve anything, and there's almost no incentive for the premier league to agree to it. Which seems to be the problem with English football in a nutshell.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:37 (twelve years ago) link
xp Try telling that to Bernie Taupin...
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 10:37 (twelve years ago) link
drowning out nastiness with nastiness
― knowing for certain the first touch of the light will finish you (fionnland), Monday, 14 October 2019 19:28 (three years ago) link
I'm glad I didn't hear that given that this was the first time ever I've been happy to watch an England football absolutely mollicate another team.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 14 October 2019 23:05 (three years ago) link
... football team ffs!!!!!
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 14 October 2019 23:10 (three years ago) link
lmao at the U21s
― Chip-vill-A (imago), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 14:37 (two years ago) link
lol beautiful
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 14:39 (two years ago) link
jinxed it
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 14:41 (two years ago) link
ach
― Chip-vill-A (imago), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 14:43 (two years ago) link
AHAHAHAHA they've equalised again!!
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 14:53 (two years ago) link
and it finishes 3-3, you LOVE to see it
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 14:57 (two years ago) link
Oh my word hahaha
― Chip-vill-A (imago), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 15:02 (two years ago) link
Innovative triple right-back formation being tried out today.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 11 October 2020 15:35 (two years ago) link
Didn’t really want Grealish playing 3 games in a week while carrying an injury; otoh of course fuck that cowardy custard Gareth Southgate, that has obviously not factored into his selection today at all, I hope we snooze our way to a 2-0 defeat and the pressure ratchets up on the arsehole
― Windsor Davies, Sunday, 11 October 2020 15:47 (two years ago) link
Southgate specifically said that his selection for the Wales friendly was about players's fitness and how much they'd played so let's assume more Big Club bullshit and etc etc
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:03 (two years ago) link
Lol, Dier.
Is that his fourth of the season?
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:15 (two years ago) link
Sad that England have finally conceded a goal with Connor Coady playing tho
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:20 (two years ago) link
There has to be a better option than Dier at CB but lord knows who. Tarkowski maybe?
― Matt DC, Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:22 (two years ago) link
Not sure about CC in a back 4 tbh but I'm happy for him if the caps make him proud
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:23 (two years ago) link
England have three or maybe four creative attacking midfielders who could make something happen here and none of them are on the pitch.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:36 (two years ago) link
i thought Southgate was a thoughtful coach at first but he's moving a lot closer to the terrible coward zone with every game
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:37 (two years ago) link
oh ffs random Anglo-Pen
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:38 (two years ago) link
Carrasco lol.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:43 (two years ago) link
Coady and Mings at CB could do no worse than this bunch of clowns imo. You'd hope that Stones is done at this level for the time being (don't count on it), Gomez was so severely awful against the Villa the other day, he could probably do with some time out of the spotlight. Tarkowski only just coming back from injury, I think?
There are no issues here though, it's 1-1 going into halftme, obviously two evenly matched teams out there. England would obviously be running away with it if only Kane and Sterling were out there
― Windsor Davies, Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:44 (two years ago) link
well the main ish is that for all Southgate's new broom new approach he's still a sucker for the "the best players are all at the big clubs with the biggest media narrative" Roy of the Rovers bullshit
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:50 (two years ago) link
ofc, tha'ts a given. incredibly frustrating to watch, even with the personnel limitations of this squad you can imagine a back four and a Henderson-Phillips/Rice-Grealish midfield trio and Sancho wide on the right offering so much more on the ball. can only imagine the pressure continuing to build the longer Southgate persists with playing 5 at the back and a pair of cloggers in the centre while there's all this talent performing on the weekly at club level
― Windsor Davies, Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:57 (two years ago) link
although i suppose being shit but getting goals from set pieces and penalties got us to a WC semi-final so tonight's performance has been about par for his undeniably successful tenure as national team boss
― Windsor Davies, Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:58 (two years ago) link
i just feel like a neutral observer with England and it's largely for those reasons
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:59 (two years ago) link
well that and obv i support Portugal now :D
Stunning from Mount. Jack Grealish could never
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Sunday, 11 October 2020 17:24 (two years ago) link
might need to turn 5 Live off shortly now England are the best team in the world again
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:01 (two years ago) link
Coady and Mings at CB could do no worse than this bunch of clowns imo
Gold and Black specs aside i don't think this is *wrong*
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:14 (two years ago) link
also Southgate is pretty fucking clueless as a tactician i think
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:26 (two years ago) link
Southgate is pretty good when it comes to working with the limitations of a squad but it's the refusal to use a number 10 when Grealish, Maddison and probably Foden are all performing for their clubs that's galling.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:22 (two years ago) link
i don't even know where he's got the double defensive mid obsession from, obvious answer might be Middlesbrough but it's genuinely weird, he seems smarter than that, i do think it's mostly a commitment to the Usual Suspects
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:27 (two years ago) link
Playing two holding midfielders together was very fashionable a decade or so ago. Holland nearly kicked their way to a World Cup with De Jong and Van Bommel sitting in front of the back four, Spain had Xabi Alonso sitting next to Busquets at the base of midfield, Germany had Khedira and Schweinsteiger both playing in deep defensive roles, all at a time when England were still trying to play Gerrard and Lampard together. There's nothing wrong with two holding midfielders as a tactical approach.
The difference is that these were all elite midfielders - not Jordan Henderson and Declan Rice. Henderson is an excellent team player, generally his boundless reserves of energy and discipline and willingness to play exactly the role that's asked for him, and he has plenty of big game experience at the highest level (and this does matter, whatever anyone says), but he is not at the same level as any of the above. Never been convinced by Rice.
I don't think I can remember seeing two holding midfielders played with a back five though, which suggests that Southgate has no real confidence in his CBs (and why shouldn't he? He's right not to). But most importantly all those 2010 teams had a double holding midfield to allow more to happen further forward. Spain had the small matter of Xavi and Iniesta, and those four in midfield could circulate possession endlessly as a defensive and attacking strategy, the best midfield there has ever been at doing so - while this is probably the worst England midfield I can remember.
The other teams had two holding midfielders providing the solidity that enabled hugely talented but flaky creative players to really do their thing unencumbered in front of them - Germany had Mezut Ozil, Holland had Wesley Schneider. That's the player Southgate's England don't have (they don't have a decent box-to-box runner either but that's a different issue). That's the gap waiting to be filled by a Grealish or a Maddison I reckon, or even a Foden or at least theoretically Dele. Grealish has only really played at EPL and Championship level but he's also just managed to make himself look like Maradona up against a Premier League and Champions League-winning defence, and he's never going to displace Sterling, Rashford or Sancho in wide areas.
― Matt DC, Monday, 12 October 2020 07:55 (two years ago) link
love the original copy pasted points in this thread. esp the darragh 6 - wilshere,walcott,young etc none of whom turned out to be anywhere near as good as gerrard, lampard, or even barry.
― oscar bravo, Monday, 12 October 2020 11:54 (two years ago) link
they never let thudd run the midfield
― Chip-vill-A (imago), Monday, 12 October 2020 12:21 (two years ago) link
The idea of Huddlestone trying to operate in England's midfield in the high pressing era is hilarious.
― Matt DC, Monday, 12 October 2020 13:53 (two years ago) link
13-goal Agbonlahor was certainly a suggestion
― Number None, Monday, 12 October 2020 14:11 (two years ago) link
The first four years or so of this decade were probably the worst crop of English players there's been, regardless of how unbalanced the current squad is, surely everyone has to agree that as an attacking force it's immeasurably better that when pretty much everything was dependent on whether or not Rooney could be arsed to turn up.
― Matt DC, Monday, 12 October 2020 14:15 (two years ago) link
may just be a generational fluke but english academies have been producing decent numbers of potentially excellent attacking players + full backs but I haven't seen corresponding depth in CBs or DMs. It could be that clubs are more likely to take chances on inexperienced forwards rather than defenders but i dunno.
― oscar bravo, Monday, 12 October 2020 14:50 (two years ago) link
lol could have copy pasted myself from 6 years ago
Still think Eng have v good talent in the front end of the pitch. They have no elite defenders and not much coming down the pipeline, but you could maybe patch together a borderline competent defence if they had some protection in front of them. They have zero even anywhere near elite central midfielders. NONE. And none of the young tyros coming through play there. The best might be Ox-Chamb. and I'm not sure he's ever going to play central and if he does it will be as frwd CM not deep lying.
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― oscar bravo, Monday, 12 October 2020 15:07 (two years ago) link
except not sure any midfield could mitigate england's defence now.
― oscar bravo, Monday, 12 October 2020 15:08 (two years ago) link
he robbed Shilton of god knows how many caps but still a trooper, RIP Ray Clemence
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 17:30 (two years ago) link
good news everybody
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/aug/01/time-to-retire-three-lions-anthem-after-euro-2022-win-says-david-baddiel
― seo layer (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 August 2022 16:09 (five months ago) link
“I’m very happy to think the song would, in a way, be put to bed.” Fans, however, may feel differently the next time England loses, he saidhad to spoil it, didn't he?
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 1 August 2022 16:38 (five months ago) link
wish somebody loved me as unconditionally as Southgate loves Maguire
― feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 September 2022 18:48 (four months ago) link
looking fwd to Maguire starting in the world cup on the back of a couple of league cup appearances for utd between now and then
― oscar bravo, Friday, 23 September 2022 20:02 (four months ago) link
Wow they actually showed that lad running on the pitch, lovely bit of nostalgia
― feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 September 2022 20:35 (four months ago) link
harry maguire doing harry maguire things
― oscar bravo, Monday, 26 September 2022 20:04 (four months ago) link
... followed by Nick Pope doing Nick Pope things.
― Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Monday, 26 September 2022 21:59 (four months ago) link