Sunderland 'Til I Cry: EFL and beyond 19/20

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Who was ready last weekend? I mean, Fulham weren't

imago, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 09:44 (one year ago) link

West Brom looked pretty slick vs Forest. Huddersfield were unfortunate last night.

Obviously looking forward to the Cocu / Rooney coaching team Derby are aiming to line up before the window ends.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 10:03 (one year ago) link

lol all three relegated prem teams lost right?

do unfortunately think sunderland will smash l1 this year

nxd, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 10:57 (one year ago) link

I'm ready... it's our fuckwitted backpassing to rookie goalkeeper, english cb that isn't! But despite a mixed performance and still looking toothless/clueless in the last 3rd. Diakhaby's lightning pace and Grant's cool as a cucumber, totally confident penalty strike tells me mid table is doable!

calzino, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:04 (one year ago) link

Bradford Park Avenue sack their new management team (appointed in May) after two consecutive 5-0 losses.

Is the first week a new record?

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 8 August 2019 09:53 (one year ago) link

There was famously a same day sacking years back but I can't remember who

seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 August 2019 09:56 (one year ago) link

Rosenior, brilliant

seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 August 2019 09:59 (one year ago) link

Norwich's climb from the nadir was triggered by the insta-sacking of Gunn after a 7-1 opening day defeat to Colchester

imago, Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:26 (one year ago) link

Robins had a nervous breakdown and walked after an opening day 4-0 home drubbing against Bournemouth. The chairman said he was a brilliant technical manager who lacked people skills and cited his refusal to high 5 the jovial Jermaine Beckford on the training ground as an example of this.

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:35 (one year ago) link

You can probably trace a fairly steady decline for Colchester since that 7-1 too.

Tim, Thursday, 8 August 2019 12:46 (one year ago) link

Beating someone 7-1 and having them immediately nick your manager will generally have a depressive effect, as will having your stadium miles out of town in a weird car park

imago, Thursday, 8 August 2019 12:50 (one year ago) link

Our pre-season optimism lasted around 35 minutes into a display of deep ineptitude against a rubbishy Macclesfield; by halfway through the second half my drunk mates were reduced to complaining that the yoof are not as good at singing songs as we all were in the old days (NB not true at all in my estimation but wevs) then we spawned an 87th minute winner and joy was very nearly unconfined.

Tim, Thursday, 8 August 2019 12:51 (one year ago) link

Ah yes, Macclesfield - dear old Sol is ready

imago, Thursday, 8 August 2019 12:53 (one year ago) link

Won't (strike thru) Will always be fooled by an unbeaten preseason, and then feel all optimism drain away in first 20 mins of match 1.

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:02 (one year ago) link

Yeah. After the first game is much too early to be giving it the "gotta grind out points in this league" gubbins also.

Tim, Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:06 (one year ago) link

Just passing Elland Rd ont bus and have a gigantic bamford head peering right at me at the traffic lights :x

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:20 (one year ago) link

Some lovely old buildings in Holbeck tbf

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:24 (one year ago) link

"Most of my constituency know I am not a football expert but it's my job to take up concerns when they are expressed to me and I have had a confidential briefing.

"I want to be satisfied that the sale was done by the book. The fans deserve to know that the sale of their football club has been done by the rules. I am not making a judgment."

The Examiner understands Mr Sheerman has not been in touch with Huddersfield Town directly to discuss his concerns.

A Huddersfield Town spokesman said: "The sale of the club has been ratified by the FA and the EFL as is part of the process."

lol the legitimate concerns of barry sheerman. just for some clarity our club used to be fully owned by a full on scumbag capitalist who utilised zero hour contracts and outsourcing to ruthlessly destroy his business rivals on the depleted high streets of the UK. And now the club is 3/4 owned by some amoral ambulance chaser who looks like a class a cunt as well. barry sheerman is the first mp to declare himself a professional lobbyist and now admits he doesn't know the difference between the Hudds and S Weds shirts after humiliating himself in a pub a couple of years back.

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 22:23 (one year ago) link

Did somebody say...'surprise package'?

imago, Saturday, 10 August 2019 15:57 (one year ago) link

you've totally cursed it now.

calzino, Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:11 (one year ago) link

"We'll go for it," he told BBC Radio Suffolk. "Too many people come here and don't try to play but we'll go for it. We're playing rock and roll football."

seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 August 2019 18:49 (one year ago) link

presumably if other people like it, that's a bonus

seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 August 2019 18:50 (one year ago) link

Richards gone. Would have been nicer to have done it during the close season but we said that last year too.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 12 August 2019 12:10 (one year ago) link

Siewart gone.. never thought this golden era of 1 win in 8 months or whatever the fuck it was would ever come to an end!

calzino, Friday, 16 August 2019 21:49 (one year ago) link

You get beat again? 2-1 down last time I looked

PMS change (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 August 2019 22:15 (one year ago) link

yeah finished 2-1, fucking Cavelerio finished us off! lots of talk of the players despising the manager, our chairman was on the verge of sacking him after the league cup defeat the other night. Always had a feeling it would be all downhill after Wagner went. Or at least normalis negotium as pom would say!

calzino, Friday, 16 August 2019 22:32 (one year ago) link

just for Bacuna's dopey assist for the Mitrovic opener - I seriously never want to see that cunt play for us again, and him looking like a L2 player and giving the ball away umpteen times a minute. While we were in the prem our recruitment was fucking shocking.

calzino, Friday, 16 August 2019 22:44 (one year ago) link

there are reports he was sacked on wednesday, but the chairman told him: seeing as he'd already picked his team for tonight he might as well stick about for another game before getting pumped.

calzino, Friday, 16 August 2019 22:54 (one year ago) link

Pușcaș looks like an excellent signing for Reading.

ShariVari, Sunday, 18 August 2019 12:41 (one year ago) link

As I say that he misses a one on one under no pressure whatsoever.

ShariVari, Sunday, 18 August 2019 12:42 (one year ago) link

damn, you can get a shit hot Romanian international striker for €8m these days. I wish our shitty scouting dept knew this last season.

calzino, Sunday, 18 August 2019 15:25 (one year ago) link


calzino, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 09:43 (one year ago) link


imago, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 09:48 (one year ago) link

Looks like dear old Oldham are in a spot of bother, largely flying under the radar AFAICT amid the massive pits of bother that Bury and Bolton find themselves in.

Luckily for the Latics they're playing us this evening and there's nothing we like to do more than donate three dumb points to crisis clubs.

Tim, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 09:55 (one year ago) link

I still can't get past my tribal hatred for Oldham whose fans were very shitty when we were the crisis club and our ex-player Wijnard tormented our dysfunctional defence. Also fuck them for the time they gave a contract to vehicular homicide scumbag Lee Hughes. Hope they go bust!

calzino, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 10:19 (one year ago) link

I've nothing against Oldham but I'd just as soon see them slide ignominiously out of the league as see them go bust in a blaze of Bury-style publicity. (They would be the first team that had been in the Premier League to do so I think?)

Tim, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 12:02 (one year ago) link

I haven't checked but I bet not many clubs have spent as many consecutive seasons in League 1 as Oldham have in the modern era, and if hadn't have been for that meddling amateur Scholesy ....

calzino, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:52 (one year ago) link

What is this new Bolton bullshit

Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 18:07 (one year ago) link

they were just calmly preparing to field an XI of children as they normally do and some spoilsport postponed the game!

calzino, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 18:58 (one year ago) link

Squeaky bum time in the most exciting footballing action of the day. I imagine "C&N Sporting Risk, headed by Henry Newman and Rory Campbell" are running round the office printing off bank statements.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 23 August 2019 21:57 (one year ago) link

Reminds me of the collapse of Hereford United where the scumbag owner didn't turn up for refinancing in court as he was "stuck in traffic" and the company was immediately dissolved.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 23 August 2019 21:59 (one year ago) link

Bury FC Crisis: Company which bought £7m debt for £70,000 and now wants £1.75m for it, reportedly owned by partner of daughter of club owner Steve Dale. Jaw-dropping detail in the wreckage of this football club.

— David Conn (@david_conn) August 23, 2019

EFL did some cracking fit and proper testing on this Dale fellow.

calzino, Friday, 23 August 2019 22:11 (one year ago) link

Steve Dale has been telling some media that a deal has been done. The potential buyers have told James Frith MP that's not the case. Yet. #BuryFC

— Chris Hall (@chrishallitv) August 23, 2019

calzino, Friday, 23 August 2019 22:35 (one year ago) link

we've had quite a few momentously big scoring win lose draws against Bury in my lifetime - including 0-6, 6-0, 4-4, 3-3 in the last couple of decades. I love Gigg Lane as well despite only going there twice. Good luck Bury.

calzino, Friday, 23 August 2019 23:15 (one year ago) link

we are going through the longest period of terrible football and sustained losing since that 70's period that some older fans with a slight touch of grandiloquence refer to as The Great Decline. When the designated disabled area is abandoned by the contemptible prem daytrippers that took over it like a fucking disease - i'll be happy to get a season ticket again, because half empty stands is the only environment that works with the kid. At least yesterday our useless caretaker manager realised Elphick is an old slow liability that is finished at this level, probably finished at L1 level (where we are headed) as well so a complete waste of a wage. It reminds me of when we signed Unsworth when he was an old knackered useless bastard as well.

calzino, Sunday, 25 August 2019 09:33 (one year ago) link

I've often complained to stewards that there should be an autism friendly section of the ground, and they agreed. But shite football is the only real solution for empty banks of seats.

calzino, Sunday, 25 August 2019 09:42 (one year ago) link

he always looked like face from crimewatch did this cunt, never trust anyone who spells Gary with 2 R's and wears wooly cardigans in the summer.

calzino, Monday, 26 August 2019 13:19 (one year ago) link

BREAKING: Bury FC Crisis: The proposed purchase by C & N Sporting Risk is OFF; owner Steve Dale was given until 5pm today for it to complete or the club would be expelled from the Football League, so this really could be the end.

— David Conn (@david_conn) August 27, 2019

it looks like Bury will be gone within the hour.

calzino, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:02 (one year ago) link

Ugh, I feel very bad for the Bury fans suffering at the hands of a bunch of stuff outside their control.

Having said that, there's a piece of me that would be irritated by their being saved at the last minute, rewarding them for massively overspending to buy promotion last year (my lot finished one point outside the play-off places, remember). I try to keep that piece of me under control because ultimately it's the Bury FC community that loses its club, and it's hardly their fault they enjoyed last season on the never-never.

Presumably the ground will be disposed of as part of an insolvency process? That's quite an important factor in any phoenix club starting up.

Tim, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:13 (one year ago) link

all teams that play in white are cunts, yeah you heard me London ilx!

calzino, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:50 (one month ago) link

ok well it's over now

wariotifo shd have waited until this finished 5-0 lol

imago, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:54 (one month ago) link

i think this might be the last ever competitive game at Griffin Park.

calzino, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:09 (one month ago) link

isn't that competitive

imago, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:10 (one month ago) link

Perhaps Pontus Jansson has the secret of the classic choke.

imago, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:26 (one month ago) link


a classical choker puts the tory white shite back in the game!

calzino, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:28 (one month ago) link

the mighty Warito abides

calzino, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:44 (one month ago) link

how lovely for west london

imago, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:45 (one month ago) link

you can't deny their transfer policy has been pretty impressive and canny, lots of champo clubs have spent their way into mediocrity. Including my lot (when they were a pretend prem club!)

calzino, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:49 (one month ago) link

matthew benham is tbf in actual fact a moneyball genius and he kind of deserves this

imago, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:51 (one month ago) link

yes he is a complete stain, but they have either been incredibly fortuitous in the transfer market or someone knows wtf they are doing! Saying that, we've been fucking pony this season and still took 4 pts off them.

calzino, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:05 (one month ago) link

we were even ponier and were 15 minutes from taking 6 off them

imago, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:07 (one month ago) link

Hoping effing Fulham get through because I can’t face wanting Cardiff to win. Don’t care what happens really, just desperate for Watkins to be sold. Desperate!

Tim, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:23 (one month ago) link

back in pre Rona times you could have have afforded yourself the luxury of a bit more patience and gamble on him being a success in the prem and yielding a better sell on cut, but them days are gone:( Rough times for league 1/2 clubs right now

calzino, Thursday, 30 July 2020 00:06 (one month ago) link

Apparently we're OK, survival-wise, we had put away some money from the last couple of lucrative sales, but this spell has blown through the savings; we released al our out-of-contract payers (seven from a not-huge squad) and it would be really nice to see a couple of replacements come in. Rough times mean it'd be a brilliant time to have a few quid of disposable income to spend on a few really good players.

Tim, Thursday, 30 July 2020 07:43 (one month ago) link

(Last lucrative sale = Watkins to Brentford, funnily enough, which was £1.75m if I recall correctly - the sums involved in L2 are laughably small compared to even the Champo. )

Tim, Thursday, 30 July 2020 07:45 (one month ago) link

I can remember when we were a L2 club being run by an asset stripping chairman. Just coming out of administration and with a squad of seven players. Then followed a massive transfer splurge with a net spend of fuck all. Then we sold Stead for 1.2m which seemed a huge sum then and probably was huge for the club at the time.

calzino, Thursday, 30 July 2020 07:51 (one month ago) link

Since more or less all the clubs in the lower leagues are loss-making enterprises, and most are owned by "local businessmen" of one kind or another, there is going to be quite a difference this season between those clubs whose owners' businesses are likely to do OK and those whose businesses are tanking.

Mansfield (insurance?), Forest Green (green energy), Salford (you know who) all seem to be spending rather freely so far so I guess they're all doing alright.

Tim, Thursday, 30 July 2020 08:11 (one month ago) link

Our local bête noire former chairman Ken Davy is considered a total villain in the town. I even saw him getting accosted on John William St once and some bloke was yelling: give us our stadium back you robbing cunt! In the local rag there was constantly stories about how his crooked loan company was breaking laws and illegally misselling loans and involved in all sorts of sharp practise etc. Anyway the Conservative Party missed a trick by running him against the universally despised safe-seat wasteman Barry Sheerman in the last election. That would have been the easiest red wall seat to take if they had even run a Shetland pony with a get brexit done blue rosette, anyone but Ken Davy.

calzino, Thursday, 30 July 2020 08:38 (one month ago) link

Oh look, calzino has another league club to go and watch if he gets bored of Huddersfield

imago, Sunday, 2 August 2020 19:26 (one month ago) link

I've been there before for preseason friendlies, there must have been some dramatic improvements made since I last went because that wasn't close to being a FL standard ground - although this was about 16-17 years ago. They are that posh you get to meet BBC producers and crime fiction authors in their local boozers, but they are no Bradford Park Avenue.

calzino, Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:16 (one month ago) link

getting there is not that "local" either, you are talking a fair journey on a clunking pacer train from Leeds!

calzino, Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:21 (one month ago) link

nothing is weird these days but Harrogate Town in the football league? hmm truly the age of Toryism!

calzino, Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:29 (one month ago) link

Dover let all their players go. Sounds terminal.

Mud... jam... failure (aldo), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:21 (one month ago) link

That was clever!

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 20:56 (one month ago) link

Not from Raya, obvs.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 20:56 (one month ago) link

Aw. Even watching the text commentary has been a chore

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:00 (one month ago) link

It has been a poor match. Fulham have been slightly better but there’s not much in it.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:02 (one month ago) link

Remarkable from Joe Bryan. One goal since 2018, two tonight.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:14 (one month ago) link

Feel for Brentford as they’ve been so good this season and I can’t imagine the front three will still be there when the next starts.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:15 (one month ago) link

I guess having choked twice in the run-in Brentford shd've expected this

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:16 (one month ago) link

Won't be the first time they've had to rebuild tho

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:17 (one month ago) link

Poor old Brentford, losing playoffs sucks. I hope they make an absolute mint selling Ollie W.

Tim, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:29 (one month ago) link

Brentford won't win the playoffs (aeternum)

calzino, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 22:05 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

In all seriousness, I hope Reading FC go out of business for this

— Chris Scull (@cjscull) August 22, 2020

cajunsunday, Saturday, 22 August 2020 23:22 (four weeks ago) link

Defending the glory of Reading.

Tim, Saturday, 22 August 2020 23:44 (four weeks ago) link

fucking tory club to the core

calzino, Sunday, 23 August 2020 01:41 (three weeks ago) link

I guess "tbey call us the biscuitmen" didn't scan as well

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 August 2020 06:12 (three weeks ago) link

This is quite the update.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:17 (three weeks ago) link

Incredible sign-off to that Bury statement

— Steven Chicken (@StevenChicken) August 27, 2020

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:20 (three weeks ago) link

i hope Bury FC are eradicated from the face of the earth and never play a game of football again

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:30 (three weeks ago) link

Me too, though obviously I'd be happy with an AFC Bury making their way back to Gigg Lane in the fullness.

Tim, Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:34 (three weeks ago) link

aye i always feel for fans when owners are douchebags, but then that's almost all owners at some point

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:35 (three weeks ago) link

It is, and I very much hope they all go bust.

Tim, Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:54 (three weeks ago) link

in only slightly related news I Danny "arse carbuncle" Boyle goes bust as well! But I do have a soft spot for Gigg Lane.

calzino, Thursday, 27 August 2020 19:35 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

Highlight of the night so far goes to the lad that walked passed these ketchup bottles and thought it was hand santiser 😂🤦🏼‍♂️
He played it pretty cool to be fair and sneaked off to wash his hands 😂@CambridgeUtdFC #cufc #camutd #EFLTrophy #cufc #SocialDistancing #COVID19

— Tom Cody (@tomcody11cufc) September 8, 2020

这是我的显示名称 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 11 September 2020 17:16 (one week ago) link

Macclesfield bustness confirmed this morning. Odd since they've been signing players all week, including stealing Jason Cowley - who we've had as a trialist for about a month - by offering him loads of cash.

Mud... jam... failure (aldo), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 11:19 (three days ago) link

yeah, it's a grim start to the season, and worse to come probably

这是我的显示名称 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:58 (three days ago) link

it's a shambles that they were still signing players with £500k of short term bills they couldn't pay and nearly £5m worth of debt hanging over them. I once said to my brother I hope this tinpot pub-team goes bust after they did us 4-0, but honest, I didn't mean it!

calzino, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 21:05 (three days ago) link

for my freebet treble I've got Blackburn who are 3-0 up and Reading who are 0-0 but a Barnsley player has seen red and then I've got Town ...sigh

calzino, Saturday, 19 September 2020 15:11 (twenty-four minutes ago) link

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