Sunderland 'Til I Cry: EFL and beyond 19/20

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Who was ready last weekend? I mean, Fulham weren't

imago, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 09:44 (one year ago) link

West Brom looked pretty slick vs Forest. Huddersfield were unfortunate last night.

Obviously looking forward to the Cocu / Rooney coaching team Derby are aiming to line up before the window ends.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 10:03 (one year ago) link

lol all three relegated prem teams lost right?

do unfortunately think sunderland will smash l1 this year

nxd, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 10:57 (one year ago) link

I'm ready... it's our fuckwitted backpassing to rookie goalkeeper, english cb that isn't! But despite a mixed performance and still looking toothless/clueless in the last 3rd. Diakhaby's lightning pace and Grant's cool as a cucumber, totally confident penalty strike tells me mid table is doable!

calzino, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:04 (one year ago) link

Bradford Park Avenue sack their new management team (appointed in May) after two consecutive 5-0 losses.

Is the first week a new record?

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 8 August 2019 09:53 (one year ago) link

There was famously a same day sacking years back but I can't remember who

seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 August 2019 09:56 (one year ago) link

Rosenior, brilliant

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/may/21/newsstory.sport5

seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 August 2019 09:59 (one year ago) link

Norwich's climb from the nadir was triggered by the insta-sacking of Gunn after a 7-1 opening day defeat to Colchester

imago, Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:26 (one year ago) link

Robins had a nervous breakdown and walked after an opening day 4-0 home drubbing against Bournemouth. The chairman said he was a brilliant technical manager who lacked people skills and cited his refusal to high 5 the jovial Jermaine Beckford on the training ground as an example of this.

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:35 (one year ago) link

You can probably trace a fairly steady decline for Colchester since that 7-1 too.

Tim, Thursday, 8 August 2019 12:46 (one year ago) link

Beating someone 7-1 and having them immediately nick your manager will generally have a depressive effect, as will having your stadium miles out of town in a weird car park

imago, Thursday, 8 August 2019 12:50 (one year ago) link

Our pre-season optimism lasted around 35 minutes into a display of deep ineptitude against a rubbishy Macclesfield; by halfway through the second half my drunk mates were reduced to complaining that the yoof are not as good at singing songs as we all were in the old days (NB not true at all in my estimation but wevs) then we spawned an 87th minute winner and joy was very nearly unconfined.

Tim, Thursday, 8 August 2019 12:51 (one year ago) link

Ah yes, Macclesfield - dear old Sol is ready

imago, Thursday, 8 August 2019 12:53 (one year ago) link

Won't (strike thru) Will always be fooled by an unbeaten preseason, and then feel all optimism drain away in first 20 mins of match 1.

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:02 (one year ago) link

Yeah. After the first game is much too early to be giving it the "gotta grind out points in this league" gubbins also.

Tim, Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:06 (one year ago) link

Just passing Elland Rd ont bus and have a gigantic bamford head peering right at me at the traffic lights :x

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:20 (one year ago) link

Some lovely old buildings in Holbeck tbf

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:24 (one year ago) link

"Most of my constituency know I am not a football expert but it's my job to take up concerns when they are expressed to me and I have had a confidential briefing.

"I want to be satisfied that the sale was done by the book. The fans deserve to know that the sale of their football club has been done by the rules. I am not making a judgment."

The Examiner understands Mr Sheerman has not been in touch with Huddersfield Town directly to discuss his concerns.

A Huddersfield Town spokesman said: "The sale of the club has been ratified by the FA and the EFL as is part of the process."

lol the legitimate concerns of barry sheerman. just for some clarity our club used to be fully owned by a full on scumbag capitalist who utilised zero hour contracts and outsourcing to ruthlessly destroy his business rivals on the depleted high streets of the UK. And now the club is 3/4 owned by some amoral ambulance chaser who looks like a class a cunt as well. barry sheerman is the first mp to declare himself a professional lobbyist and now admits he doesn't know the difference between the Hudds and S Weds shirts after humiliating himself in a pub a couple of years back.

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 22:23 (one year ago) link

Did somebody say...'surprise package'?

imago, Saturday, 10 August 2019 15:57 (one year ago) link

you've totally cursed it now.

calzino, Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:11 (one year ago) link

"We'll go for it," he told BBC Radio Suffolk. "Too many people come here and don't try to play but we'll go for it. We're playing rock and roll football."

seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 August 2019 18:49 (one year ago) link

presumably if other people like it, that's a bonus

seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 August 2019 18:50 (one year ago) link

Richards gone. Would have been nicer to have done it during the close season but we said that last year too.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 12 August 2019 12:10 (one year ago) link

Siewart gone.. never thought this golden era of 1 win in 8 months or whatever the fuck it was would ever come to an end!

calzino, Friday, 16 August 2019 21:49 (one year ago) link

You get beat again? 2-1 down last time I looked

PMS change (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 August 2019 22:15 (one year ago) link

yeah finished 2-1, fucking Cavelerio finished us off! lots of talk of the players despising the manager, our chairman was on the verge of sacking him after the league cup defeat the other night. Always had a feeling it would be all downhill after Wagner went. Or at least normalis negotium as pom would say!

calzino, Friday, 16 August 2019 22:32 (one year ago) link

just for Bacuna's dopey assist for the Mitrovic opener - I seriously never want to see that cunt play for us again, and him looking like a L2 player and giving the ball away umpteen times a minute. While we were in the prem our recruitment was fucking shocking.

calzino, Friday, 16 August 2019 22:44 (one year ago) link

there are reports he was sacked on wednesday, but the chairman told him: seeing as he'd already picked his team for tonight he might as well stick about for another game before getting pumped.

calzino, Friday, 16 August 2019 22:54 (one year ago) link

Pușcaș looks like an excellent signing for Reading.

ShariVari, Sunday, 18 August 2019 12:41 (one year ago) link

As I say that he misses a one on one under no pressure whatsoever.

ShariVari, Sunday, 18 August 2019 12:42 (one year ago) link

damn, you can get a shit hot Romanian international striker for €8m these days. I wish our shitty scouting dept knew this last season.

calzino, Sunday, 18 August 2019 15:25 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECW2YhvWsAAH4zO?format=jpg&name=900x900

lool

calzino, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 09:43 (one year ago) link

:D

imago, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 09:48 (one year ago) link

Looks like dear old Oldham are in a spot of bother, largely flying under the radar AFAICT amid the massive pits of bother that Bury and Bolton find themselves in.

Luckily for the Latics they're playing us this evening and there's nothing we like to do more than donate three dumb points to crisis clubs.

Tim, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 09:55 (one year ago) link

I still can't get past my tribal hatred for Oldham whose fans were very shitty when we were the crisis club and our ex-player Wijnard tormented our dysfunctional defence. Also fuck them for the time they gave a contract to vehicular homicide scumbag Lee Hughes. Hope they go bust!

calzino, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 10:19 (one year ago) link

I've nothing against Oldham but I'd just as soon see them slide ignominiously out of the league as see them go bust in a blaze of Bury-style publicity. (They would be the first team that had been in the Premier League to do so I think?)

Tim, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 12:02 (one year ago) link

I haven't checked but I bet not many clubs have spent as many consecutive seasons in League 1 as Oldham have in the modern era, and if hadn't have been for that meddling amateur Scholesy ....

calzino, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:52 (one year ago) link

What is this new Bolton bullshit

Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 18:07 (one year ago) link

they were just calmly preparing to field an XI of children as they normally do and some spoilsport postponed the game!

calzino, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 18:58 (one year ago) link

Squeaky bum time in the most exciting footballing action of the day. I imagine "C&N Sporting Risk, headed by Henry Newman and Rory Campbell" are running round the office printing off bank statements.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49455433

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 23 August 2019 21:57 (one year ago) link

Reminds me of the collapse of Hereford United where the scumbag owner didn't turn up for refinancing in court as he was "stuck in traffic" and the company was immediately dissolved.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 23 August 2019 21:59 (one year ago) link

Bury FC Crisis: Company which bought £7m debt for £70,000 and now wants £1.75m for it, reportedly owned by partner of daughter of club owner Steve Dale. Jaw-dropping detail in the wreckage of this football club. https://t.co/IGVPxYAddp

— David Conn (@david_conn) August 23, 2019

EFL did some cracking fit and proper testing on this Dale fellow.

calzino, Friday, 23 August 2019 22:11 (one year ago) link

Steve Dale has been telling some media that a deal has been done. The potential buyers have told James Frith MP that's not the case. Yet. #BuryFC

— Chris Hall (@chrishallitv) August 23, 2019

calzino, Friday, 23 August 2019 22:35 (one year ago) link

we've had quite a few momentously big scoring win lose draws against Bury in my lifetime - including 0-6, 6-0, 4-4, 3-3 in the last couple of decades. I love Gigg Lane as well despite only going there twice. Good luck Bury.

calzino, Friday, 23 August 2019 23:15 (one year ago) link

we are going through the longest period of terrible football and sustained losing since that 70's period that some older fans with a slight touch of grandiloquence refer to as The Great Decline. When the designated disabled area is abandoned by the contemptible prem daytrippers that took over it like a fucking disease - i'll be happy to get a season ticket again, because half empty stands is the only environment that works with the kid. At least yesterday our useless caretaker manager realised Elphick is an old slow liability that is finished at this level, probably finished at L1 level (where we are headed) as well so a complete waste of a wage. It reminds me of when we signed Unsworth when he was an old knackered useless bastard as well.

calzino, Sunday, 25 August 2019 09:33 (one year ago) link

I've often complained to stewards that there should be an autism friendly section of the ground, and they agreed. But shite football is the only real solution for empty banks of seats.

calzino, Sunday, 25 August 2019 09:42 (one year ago) link

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/17751427.middlesbrough-continue-investigate-transfers-garry-monks-time-charge/

he always looked like face from crimewatch did this cunt, never trust anyone who spells Gary with 2 R's and wears wooly cardigans in the summer.

calzino, Monday, 26 August 2019 13:19 (one year ago) link

BREAKING: Bury FC Crisis: The proposed purchase by C & N Sporting Risk is OFF; owner Steve Dale was given until 5pm today for it to complete or the club would be expelled from the Football League, so this really could be the end.

— David Conn (@david_conn) August 27, 2019

it looks like Bury will be gone within the hour.

calzino, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:02 (one year ago) link

Ugh, I feel very bad for the Bury fans suffering at the hands of a bunch of stuff outside their control.

Having said that, there's a piece of me that would be irritated by their being saved at the last minute, rewarding them for massively overspending to buy promotion last year (my lot finished one point outside the play-off places, remember). I try to keep that piece of me under control because ultimately it's the Bury FC community that loses its club, and it's hardly their fault they enjoyed last season on the never-never.

Presumably the ground will be disposed of as part of an insolvency process? That's quite an important factor in any phoenix club starting up.

Tim, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:13 (one year ago) link

Kachunga a late sub for Rhodes - jesus no wonder Wednesday have been so shit this season. And apparently the not very colossal Rhodes is coming to back to us this summer.

calzino, Saturday, 8 May 2021 13:29 (two months ago) link

worst league in the world

calzino, Saturday, 8 May 2021 13:37 (two months ago) link

cambridge could be promoted today, unbelievable after how reliably shit they've been in the 5 years I've lived here. this area turns into a giant car park every home game and today it looks like it did in pre-covid times.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 8 May 2021 13:42 (two months ago) link

even a win wouldn't have done it Tim :( But at least fucking Salford City are going miss out as well!

calzino, Saturday, 8 May 2021 16:20 (two months ago) link

There weren’t any good teams in L2 this year as far as I can tell.

Tim, Saturday, 8 May 2021 16:42 (two months ago) link

Cheltenham and Cambridge looked big and strong and well-organised tbf.

Tim, Saturday, 8 May 2021 16:42 (two months ago) link

I’m disappointed but wasn’t looking forward to another playoff humiliation.

Tim, Saturday, 8 May 2021 16:43 (two months ago) link

pre-emptive yeah didn't want the playoffs either

imago, Saturday, 8 May 2021 16:54 (two months ago) link

shame there'll be no Exeter fixture next season tho. if we get FGR any excuse to return to the wonderland that is Stroud tho

imago, Saturday, 8 May 2021 16:55 (two months ago) link

I did want the playoffs, a lot, but in the way I often want beer a lot, in the certain knowledge that it’ll be painful eventually.

Tim, Saturday, 8 May 2021 17:01 (two months ago) link

Wembley ticket secured. Assuming I go to both matches then I'll have seen 4 (four) games in person this season.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Sunday, 9 May 2021 17:15 (two months ago) link

EXCLUSIVE: Derby could still be RELEGATED from the Championship after EFL win FFP appeal

this diabolical season could still be saved

calzino, Monday, 10 May 2021 14:20 (two months ago) link

Seeing Wembley on the telly today made it all the more remarkable that I'll be there next weekend.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Saturday, 15 May 2021 19:59 (two months ago) link

well done on getting a ticket!

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 May 2021 20:08 (two months ago) link

I'll wave on the telly.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Saturday, 15 May 2021 20:19 (two months ago) link

how can one thread-title keep delivering so much

imago, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 20:27 (two months ago) link

Good luck Hereford today!

my stepmother is from Hornchurch and has lived outside Hereford for 25 years, suddenly she is interested in lower league football.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 22 May 2021 11:05 (two months ago) link

Have a mate who's Hornchurch (as said above) so I'll remain diplomatically neutral here

imago, Saturday, 22 May 2021 11:09 (two months ago) link

Wembley! I am in you! pic.twitter.com/BsQz1fB88H

— Alan Stephen (@AlanStephen) May 22, 2021

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Saturday, 22 May 2021 14:37 (two months ago) link

Forest Green vs Newport has been great fun so far.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 23 May 2021 19:08 (two months ago) link

4-2 at the moment, 4-4 on aggregate, pitch so waterlogged the ball barely rolls.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 23 May 2021 19:19 (two months ago) link

hah hah what a cruel game the playoffs can be

calzino, Sunday, 23 May 2021 20:15 (two months ago) link

Brentford are killing Swansea. Inches away from 3-0 already.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 29 May 2021 14:24 (two months ago) link

Electric stuff

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 29 May 2021 14:24 (two months ago) link

was expecting this to be as dull as ditchwater so I cut the grass instead. Swansea can be absolute pap on their day, it puzzles me how they finished above Barnsley.

calzino, Saturday, 29 May 2021 14:32 (two months ago) link

It's basically turned into the Ugly Swansea Pressure show since then. There's a red card in this one somewhere by the looks of it

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 29 May 2021 14:36 (two months ago) link

When I first moved to London I worked with a guy who was a Brentford fan so I went to a few of their games and then went all the way to Cardiff to witness one of their regular playoff final defeats, so I'm a long way from counting chickens here.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 May 2021 14:39 (two months ago) link

I didn't exactly 'grow up on the terraces' but Griffin Park was my first ground. I know there are problems with how they're run these days but it'll be amazing to see them in the top division. But yeah, not counting any chickens - they've shit the bed too many times for that.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 29 May 2021 14:48 (two months ago) link

hah hah I remember the year they finished second in L1 but but got beat in the playoffs. It was the year the prem was formed so there was one less automatic promotion place.

calzino, Saturday, 29 May 2021 14:55 (two months ago) link

got to say, going to the playoff finals at Cardiff pisses on going to Wembley. the pubs around Wembley are fucking shit for a start.

calzino, Saturday, 29 May 2021 15:03 (two months ago) link

Pontus Jansson sauntering onto the pitch eating a protein bar and then getting knocked senseless by a goalbound shot from his own teammate is a hell of a vibe

There's the red

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 29 May 2021 15:25 (two months ago) link

Seems harsh.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 29 May 2021 15:26 (two months ago) link

Didn't look deliberate at all in any of the replays

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 29 May 2021 15:26 (two months ago) link

Congrats Bees!

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 May 2021 16:13 (two months ago) link

Nice to see a new name in the PL.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 29 May 2021 16:22 (two months ago) link

there used to be a Brentford fan on ilx. But haven't seen them post for years.

calzino, Saturday, 29 May 2021 16:24 (two months ago) link

Swansea. Cost of compo for Steve Cooper and his staff is a stunning 4.5m ...

— Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko) May 30, 2021

lol wtf... commiserations if this is happening bananaman begins

calzino, Sunday, 30 May 2021 10:15 (two months ago) link

What a start for Lincoln.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 30 May 2021 14:01 (two months ago) link

that was coming ..it's been all Blackpool apart from Grant hitting the post.

calzino, Sunday, 30 May 2021 14:36 (two months ago) link

so hang on, against the odds, Derek Adams has got Morecambe promoted to L1 but now he's going back down L2 to manage Bradford City. Worst of luck to him!

calzino, Monday, 31 May 2021 17:01 (two months ago) link

The bright side of Morecambe going up was us not having to put up with Adams for a year at least.

Tim, Monday, 31 May 2021 19:52 (two months ago) link

well if Crystal Palace are after a shithousing and Pulisball manager he'd be a much cheaper option than Cooper I hear

calzino, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 12:34 (two months ago) link

we've just signed Ollie Turton and I was thinking where I have I heard that name before and then remembered he was the lad that scored the fastest own goal in playoff final history only 4 days ago. Tbf he was in a bit of a pickle when it occurred and Blackpool fans like him + say he's a consistent performer defensively despite not offering much going forwards and lacking pace. But results suffered a lot when Pipa got injured last season so a fair squad strengthening signing.

calzino, Thursday, 3 June 2021 20:27 (two months ago) link

sounds like Wagner is going to the Baggies... jeez wtf happened to you Dave? u used to be beautiful

calzino, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 10:23 (one month ago) link

Torquay's keeper scores with the last touch of the ball to take the playoff final to extra time.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Sunday, 20 June 2021 15:33 (one month ago) link

Poor old Torkey, out on pens. Guess there was no way to get a police dog to help them this time.

Dean Moxey had now lost playoff finals in three of the last four years (two of them with Exeter).

Tim, Sunday, 20 June 2021 17:44 (one month ago) link

so Dean is lacking a bit of... never mind

Valerian Ismael to Baggies is looking almost a done deal. He seems like a good manager. He transformed Barnsley from mid-table to relegation fodder dross to a very tight well organised unit that only just fell short of promotion.

calzino, Monday, 21 June 2021 08:52 (one month ago) link

will never forget when Barnsley were briefly in the PL and there was a picture in the paper with all the club badges and there in amongst all the iconic designs was this

https://i1.wp.com/worldsoccerpins.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Barnsley-FC-1981-1998-Alternative-Logo.png

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 21 June 2021 09:28 (one month ago) link

https://i2-prod.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/article12164178.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200b/Logos.jpg

dogs on football badges always looks utterly shite, the Town and Barnsley badges probably had an influence on Northern Independence Party logo as well and look where it got them clowns!

calzino, Monday, 21 June 2021 10:47 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Rhodes has managed to enrage the Wednesdayites by calmly scoring a decent pen against them today. The backstory on this is that he shit it and refused to step up for the pen shootout they lost against us in the '17 playoffs semi. Lol it's certainly not his fault their club's owners were carelessly profligate enough to pay him 5 times what he was worth on a 5 year contract when he was already past his best.

calzino, Sunday, 1 August 2021 21:08 (three days ago) link


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