Sunderland 'Til I Cry: EFL and beyond 19/20

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Who was ready last weekend? I mean, Fulham weren't

imago, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 09:44 (eleven months ago) link

West Brom looked pretty slick vs Forest. Huddersfield were unfortunate last night.

Obviously looking forward to the Cocu / Rooney coaching team Derby are aiming to line up before the window ends.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 10:03 (eleven months ago) link

lol all three relegated prem teams lost right?

do unfortunately think sunderland will smash l1 this year

nxd, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 10:57 (eleven months ago) link

I'm ready... it's our fuckwitted backpassing to rookie goalkeeper, english cb that isn't! But despite a mixed performance and still looking toothless/clueless in the last 3rd. Diakhaby's lightning pace and Grant's cool as a cucumber, totally confident penalty strike tells me mid table is doable!

calzino, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:04 (eleven months ago) link

Bradford Park Avenue sack their new management team (appointed in May) after two consecutive 5-0 losses.

Is the first week a new record?

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 8 August 2019 09:53 (eleven months ago) link

There was famously a same day sacking years back but I can't remember who

seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 August 2019 09:56 (eleven months ago) link

Rosenior, brilliant

seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 August 2019 09:59 (eleven months ago) link

Norwich's climb from the nadir was triggered by the insta-sacking of Gunn after a 7-1 opening day defeat to Colchester

imago, Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:26 (eleven months ago) link

Robins had a nervous breakdown and walked after an opening day 4-0 home drubbing against Bournemouth. The chairman said he was a brilliant technical manager who lacked people skills and cited his refusal to high 5 the jovial Jermaine Beckford on the training ground as an example of this.

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:35 (eleven months ago) link

You can probably trace a fairly steady decline for Colchester since that 7-1 too.

Tim, Thursday, 8 August 2019 12:46 (eleven months ago) link

Beating someone 7-1 and having them immediately nick your manager will generally have a depressive effect, as will having your stadium miles out of town in a weird car park

imago, Thursday, 8 August 2019 12:50 (eleven months ago) link

Our pre-season optimism lasted around 35 minutes into a display of deep ineptitude against a rubbishy Macclesfield; by halfway through the second half my drunk mates were reduced to complaining that the yoof are not as good at singing songs as we all were in the old days (NB not true at all in my estimation but wevs) then we spawned an 87th minute winner and joy was very nearly unconfined.

Tim, Thursday, 8 August 2019 12:51 (eleven months ago) link

Ah yes, Macclesfield - dear old Sol is ready

imago, Thursday, 8 August 2019 12:53 (eleven months ago) link

Won't (strike thru) Will always be fooled by an unbeaten preseason, and then feel all optimism drain away in first 20 mins of match 1.

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:02 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah. After the first game is much too early to be giving it the "gotta grind out points in this league" gubbins also.

Tim, Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:06 (eleven months ago) link

Just passing Elland Rd ont bus and have a gigantic bamford head peering right at me at the traffic lights :x

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:20 (eleven months ago) link

Some lovely old buildings in Holbeck tbf

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:24 (eleven months ago) link

"Most of my constituency know I am not a football expert but it's my job to take up concerns when they are expressed to me and I have had a confidential briefing.

"I want to be satisfied that the sale was done by the book. The fans deserve to know that the sale of their football club has been done by the rules. I am not making a judgment."

The Examiner understands Mr Sheerman has not been in touch with Huddersfield Town directly to discuss his concerns.

A Huddersfield Town spokesman said: "The sale of the club has been ratified by the FA and the EFL as is part of the process."

lol the legitimate concerns of barry sheerman. just for some clarity our club used to be fully owned by a full on scumbag capitalist who utilised zero hour contracts and outsourcing to ruthlessly destroy his business rivals on the depleted high streets of the UK. And now the club is 3/4 owned by some amoral ambulance chaser who looks like a class a cunt as well. barry sheerman is the first mp to declare himself a professional lobbyist and now admits he doesn't know the difference between the Hudds and S Weds shirts after humiliating himself in a pub a couple of years back.

calzino, Thursday, 8 August 2019 22:23 (eleven months ago) link

Did somebody say...'surprise package'?

imago, Saturday, 10 August 2019 15:57 (eleven months ago) link

you've totally cursed it now.

calzino, Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:11 (eleven months ago) link

"We'll go for it," he told BBC Radio Suffolk. "Too many people come here and don't try to play but we'll go for it. We're playing rock and roll football."

seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 August 2019 18:49 (eleven months ago) link

presumably if other people like it, that's a bonus

seven against feebs (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 August 2019 18:50 (eleven months ago) link

Richards gone. Would have been nicer to have done it during the close season but we said that last year too.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 12 August 2019 12:10 (ten months ago) link

Siewart gone.. never thought this golden era of 1 win in 8 months or whatever the fuck it was would ever come to an end!

calzino, Friday, 16 August 2019 21:49 (ten months ago) link

You get beat again? 2-1 down last time I looked

PMS change (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 August 2019 22:15 (ten months ago) link

yeah finished 2-1, fucking Cavelerio finished us off! lots of talk of the players despising the manager, our chairman was on the verge of sacking him after the league cup defeat the other night. Always had a feeling it would be all downhill after Wagner went. Or at least normalis negotium as pom would say!

calzino, Friday, 16 August 2019 22:32 (ten months ago) link

just for Bacuna's dopey assist for the Mitrovic opener - I seriously never want to see that cunt play for us again, and him looking like a L2 player and giving the ball away umpteen times a minute. While we were in the prem our recruitment was fucking shocking.

calzino, Friday, 16 August 2019 22:44 (ten months ago) link

there are reports he was sacked on wednesday, but the chairman told him: seeing as he'd already picked his team for tonight he might as well stick about for another game before getting pumped.

calzino, Friday, 16 August 2019 22:54 (ten months ago) link

Pușcaș looks like an excellent signing for Reading.

ShariVari, Sunday, 18 August 2019 12:41 (ten months ago) link

As I say that he misses a one on one under no pressure whatsoever.

ShariVari, Sunday, 18 August 2019 12:42 (ten months ago) link

damn, you can get a shit hot Romanian international striker for €8m these days. I wish our shitty scouting dept knew this last season.

calzino, Sunday, 18 August 2019 15:25 (ten months ago) link


calzino, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 09:43 (ten months ago) link


imago, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 09:48 (ten months ago) link

Looks like dear old Oldham are in a spot of bother, largely flying under the radar AFAICT amid the massive pits of bother that Bury and Bolton find themselves in.

Luckily for the Latics they're playing us this evening and there's nothing we like to do more than donate three dumb points to crisis clubs.

Tim, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 09:55 (ten months ago) link

I still can't get past my tribal hatred for Oldham whose fans were very shitty when we were the crisis club and our ex-player Wijnard tormented our dysfunctional defence. Also fuck them for the time they gave a contract to vehicular homicide scumbag Lee Hughes. Hope they go bust!

calzino, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 10:19 (ten months ago) link

I've nothing against Oldham but I'd just as soon see them slide ignominiously out of the league as see them go bust in a blaze of Bury-style publicity. (They would be the first team that had been in the Premier League to do so I think?)

Tim, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 12:02 (ten months ago) link

I haven't checked but I bet not many clubs have spent as many consecutive seasons in League 1 as Oldham have in the modern era, and if hadn't have been for that meddling amateur Scholesy ....

calzino, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:52 (ten months ago) link

What is this new Bolton bullshit

Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 18:07 (ten months ago) link

they were just calmly preparing to field an XI of children as they normally do and some spoilsport postponed the game!

calzino, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 18:58 (ten months ago) link

Squeaky bum time in the most exciting footballing action of the day. I imagine "C&N Sporting Risk, headed by Henry Newman and Rory Campbell" are running round the office printing off bank statements.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 23 August 2019 21:57 (ten months ago) link

Reminds me of the collapse of Hereford United where the scumbag owner didn't turn up for refinancing in court as he was "stuck in traffic" and the company was immediately dissolved.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 23 August 2019 21:59 (ten months ago) link

Bury FC Crisis: Company which bought £7m debt for £70,000 and now wants £1.75m for it, reportedly owned by partner of daughter of club owner Steve Dale. Jaw-dropping detail in the wreckage of this football club.

— David Conn (@david_conn) August 23, 2019

EFL did some cracking fit and proper testing on this Dale fellow.

calzino, Friday, 23 August 2019 22:11 (ten months ago) link

Steve Dale has been telling some media that a deal has been done. The potential buyers have told James Frith MP that's not the case. Yet. #BuryFC

— Chris Hall (@chrishallitv) August 23, 2019

calzino, Friday, 23 August 2019 22:35 (ten months ago) link

we've had quite a few momentously big scoring win lose draws against Bury in my lifetime - including 0-6, 6-0, 4-4, 3-3 in the last couple of decades. I love Gigg Lane as well despite only going there twice. Good luck Bury.

calzino, Friday, 23 August 2019 23:15 (ten months ago) link

we are going through the longest period of terrible football and sustained losing since that 70's period that some older fans with a slight touch of grandiloquence refer to as The Great Decline. When the designated disabled area is abandoned by the contemptible prem daytrippers that took over it like a fucking disease - i'll be happy to get a season ticket again, because half empty stands is the only environment that works with the kid. At least yesterday our useless caretaker manager realised Elphick is an old slow liability that is finished at this level, probably finished at L1 level (where we are headed) as well so a complete waste of a wage. It reminds me of when we signed Unsworth when he was an old knackered useless bastard as well.

calzino, Sunday, 25 August 2019 09:33 (ten months ago) link

I've often complained to stewards that there should be an autism friendly section of the ground, and they agreed. But shite football is the only real solution for empty banks of seats.

calzino, Sunday, 25 August 2019 09:42 (ten months ago) link

he always looked like face from crimewatch did this cunt, never trust anyone who spells Gary with 2 R's and wears wooly cardigans in the summer.

calzino, Monday, 26 August 2019 13:19 (ten months ago) link

BREAKING: Bury FC Crisis: The proposed purchase by C & N Sporting Risk is OFF; owner Steve Dale was given until 5pm today for it to complete or the club would be expelled from the Football League, so this really could be the end.

— David Conn (@david_conn) August 27, 2019

it looks like Bury will be gone within the hour.

calzino, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:02 (ten months ago) link

Ugh, I feel very bad for the Bury fans suffering at the hands of a bunch of stuff outside their control.

Having said that, there's a piece of me that would be irritated by their being saved at the last minute, rewarding them for massively overspending to buy promotion last year (my lot finished one point outside the play-off places, remember). I try to keep that piece of me under control because ultimately it's the Bury FC community that loses its club, and it's hardly their fault they enjoyed last season on the never-never.

Presumably the ground will be disposed of as part of an insolvency process? That's quite an important factor in any phoenix club starting up.

Tim, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:13 (ten months ago) link

Nothing confirmed yet so hopefully just a horrible rumour

groovypanda, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 17:56 (three months ago) link

Spread like wildfire if it is

---------------six feet----------------- (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:16 (three months ago) link

Still shit news but not dead:

groovypanda, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 12:16 (three months ago) link

Glad the story was wrong, hope he makes a full recovery.

---------------six feet----------------- (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:41 (three months ago) link

Gone now :(

No love for Cardiff but he was a baller. RIP

---------------six feet----------------- (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 March 2020 14:52 (three months ago) link

This season expunged completely for all leagues below NLS Step 2.

Seems like the Prem, EFL and National League 1 & 2 want to complete the season and have asked permission to extend the season indefinitely. Goodness knows what happens to players' contracts, transfer windows etc.

Not terribly stoked for the madness.

Tim, Thursday, 26 March 2020 16:14 (three months ago) link

The season that never ended

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 March 2020 18:41 (three months ago) link

As far as I know nobody in NLN is in a position to finish it and presumably there's no relegation if the leagues below have already been told their league is void so no promotion.

Doubling down on out of date information (aldo), Thursday, 26 March 2020 21:35 (three months ago) link

because i need cheering up

Hooray! It's another goalmouth scram...

Oh. Oh my.#LincolnCityFC #Imps #Macclesfield #Silkmen #Crap90sFootball

— Crap 90s Football (@Crap90sFootball) March 31, 2020

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 10:33 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

Having spent most of the season in the top 3 in L2, we had a dip in form at the worst possible time and now the season's over we're in the weird playoffs rather than the auto slots (the only reason I care about this is because dirty Argyle managed to worm their way into the autos, the snotrags). All behind closed doors obv, but if we want we can pay £25 to upload a photo of ourselves to some website and they will manufacture a polypropylene cut-out to be placed in the stands to give an impression of a crowd. We get to keep our cut-outs, but the club can't help it if they're damaged. I'm half tempted as a way of bunging the club some case but I'm probably better just making an extra donation to the Trust.

The thought of picking up a cardboard cut-out of myself with half my head hanging off because it had been clattered by a Jake Taylor moonshot from the edge fo the box, such a feeling.

Tim, Thursday, 11 June 2020 12:23 (four weeks ago) link

lol beautiful

if i'd got the money i thought of putting my dad in the fake crowd at Molineux, think he'd have enjoyed it

i don't suppose there was any good way of sorting out the broken leagues but i'm not happy with the ways they've chosen

comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 June 2020 12:26 (four weeks ago) link

I am not too bothered really - genuinely the only reason I'm bothered about going up is that being in League 1 would provide a one-division safety net for the next time we go tits up. Because of the way we're structured we just have to get used to watching teams piss past us while racking up millions in debt, which we can't do. Most of them will fail eventually but there seems to be an endless queue of rich tossers (at our level, mostly local rich tossers as opposed to the criminal classes higher up) who are happy to waste a ton of their cash on some small scale grubby financial doping. Even the dream of keeping ourselves going on good transfer windfalls (which is what's been fuelling or fairly decent run the last 3 or four years) has been taken away. So L2 or L1 is not that important, mostly it's about having a beer and a jump up and down.

(That last bit's not wholly true. The club's doing a lot of good in the community these days, which I'm pleased about obviously, but L2 or L1 doesn't make a whole heap of difference to that either.)

Tim, Thursday, 11 June 2020 12:58 (four weeks ago) link

unlucky tim
good luck in the playoffs!

nxd, Friday, 12 June 2020 19:56 (four weeks ago) link

tim is yr cardboard cut-out watching this

imago, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:13 (two weeks ago) link

Not in the ground. I have a cardboard cutout here at home to watch the game for me.

Tim, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:14 (two weeks ago) link

magnificent! if you reach the final you should design & print a collectible exeter squad imo

imago, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:15 (two weeks ago) link

No point. If they were worth anything the premier league would steal them.

Tim, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:16 (two weeks ago) link

we paid u good money to train up your manager as a born winner iirc

imago, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:20 (two weeks ago) link

oh wait it was a free transfer lol

imago, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:20 (two weeks ago) link

Fully formed when he left, took us a while to fix him after he arrived back from Charlton IIRC.

Tim, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:24 (two weeks ago) link

i hadn't been aware he was involved in a successful playoff campaign for u as a player

imago, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:26 (two weeks ago) link

and it wasn't us what spoilt him, it was the motley crew of cheltenhams he struggled thru before retiring obv

imago, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:26 (two weeks ago) link

sorry i mean 'the likes of cheltenham' pax no returns

imago, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:27 (two weeks ago) link

great keeping lol

imago, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:35 (two weeks ago) link

He was in the team that thrashed Charlton 3-0 at yours (the Valley was pretty full that day because you made it v cheap to try to attract some fans for an unattractive game, heh).

Tim, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:38 (two weeks ago) link

football for a fiver! we usually screw those up

imago, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:46 (two weeks ago) link

(The best team in our recent history met the worst team in yours that season, I suspect.)

Tim, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:46 (two weeks ago) link

(i think you are correct)

in the spirit of the zing, just noticed you are sponsored by a company that literally went bust!

imago, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:48 (two weeks ago) link

Oh mate. A sponsor zing.

Tim, Monday, 22 June 2020 18:09 (two weeks ago) link

at least it isn't yet another betting firm lol

dodgy keeping at both ends, your lot kept in it by some serious atonement from the gentleman with a religious beard

imago, Monday, 22 June 2020 18:13 (two weeks ago) link

good tie rly

other one seems a bit tasty too, will tune in now

imago, Monday, 22 June 2020 20:10 (two weeks ago) link

Talking of men with religious beards:

So... this was a "crowdie"? Did someone pay £25 to install OBL on a seat at Elland Rd?

Michael Jones, Thursday, 25 June 2020 10:52 (two weeks ago) link

now that's value for money

never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 June 2020 10:54 (two weeks ago) link


Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 June 2020 11:18 (two weeks ago) link

covid has completely saved us, got to say

imago, Saturday, 27 June 2020 13:51 (one week ago) link

when you hate Boro and their cunt manager but you hate Stoke even more

hotwire my scampo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:34 (one week ago) link

if last week was the death-blow to Hull then this week is the stake through the heart

Luton look like the ones to watch out for now, glad our GD is so much better than theirs

imago, Saturday, 27 June 2020 16:04 (one week ago) link

Saddled with a terrible owner, don't own their own ground, real trouble ahead

i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 21:02 (one week ago) link

so are we going to see the red-and-white wembley playoff hoodoo defeated tonight

imago, Monday, 29 June 2020 17:19 (one week ago) link

I don’t imagine so. Never know though, eh?

Tim, Monday, 29 June 2020 18:02 (one week ago) link

based on having seen the semis, exeter are a better and more controlled and classy side, but northampton have strong chaos energy which could prevail

imago, Monday, 29 June 2020 18:16 (one week ago) link

I think that’s about right.

Tim, Monday, 29 June 2020 18:30 (one week ago) link

Shots on Target

imago, Monday, 29 June 2020 19:15 (one week ago) link

Cardboard cut outs sneaking out at half time etc

Tim, Monday, 29 June 2020 19:15 (one week ago) link

turn on the stream, northampton long throw causing chaos, exeter flowing passing move leading to nothing

football's a bastard

imago, Monday, 29 June 2020 19:16 (one week ago) link

exeter player going through on goal slows, checks, bundles it out for a goal kick

northampton almost score immediately

imago, Monday, 29 June 2020 19:19 (one week ago) link

exeter's keeper is having an absolute stormer

imago, Monday, 29 June 2020 19:21 (one week ago) link

northampton get the first shot on target at the other end too, just for shits

imago, Monday, 29 June 2020 19:23 (one week ago) link

plymouth's manager here to rub it in from the analysis couch

imago, Monday, 29 June 2020 19:28 (one week ago) link

'keir starmer has modelled his look on morrissey'

no you haven't keir. behold the master of the craft: joey barton

imago, Monday, 6 July 2020 20:22 (four days ago) link

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