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Can't get interested in this tournament, know nothing about the format because I can't be bothered to look into it ... nonetheless, Gibraltar win their first ever competitive match! And away from home! Armenia 0 Gibraltar 1! And! Netherlands 3 Germany 0!!

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 October 2018 20:46 (three years ago) link

gibraltar's existence as an international football team or even a place at all is a horrible joke but at least we get to spare a chuckle for armenia

imago, Saturday, 13 October 2018 20:52 (three years ago) link

The kids were half-decent yesterday, even though 3-0 was too flattering. It does seem with Koeman we have a manager who, for the first time in six years, at least knows what he's doing half of the time. Restructuring Holland still a mammoth task, but the talent is there.

Gott hilfe Germany tho.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 14 October 2018 19:30 (three years ago) link

It was worth watching that game just to see that the Italians have a player named Lasagna.

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 14 October 2018 20:44 (three years ago) link

Also one of the great continental European Kevins.

continental european footballers called kevin

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 14 October 2018 20:50 (three years ago) link

Ireland - Denmark 0-0 but without Christian Eriksen.

Frederik B, Sunday, 14 October 2018 20:52 (three years ago) link

there are more layers to the Lasagna story than I knew

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 14 October 2018 21:26 (three years ago) link

"Kevin" or "Kevinismus" in German has become a short-hand for short-lived fads in given names based in pop culture

Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 October 2018 21:35 (three years ago) link

Gutted it's not Barry, obviously.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Monday, 15 October 2018 07:26 (three years ago) link

LBI - great to see frenkie and bergwijn play finally!

both looked p decent

nxd, Monday, 15 October 2018 08:49 (three years ago) link

It feels like the most despondent time to be an Ireland supporter since the Staunton era.

. (Michael B), Monday, 15 October 2018 09:29 (three years ago) link

xp Even as the most ardent Ajax hater I have to admit Frenkie is really special. He can only end up at City, PSG or Barca imo. And to think he's only 21 years old; the way he reads the play and prances around the pitch is something to behold. His technique is incredible.

Bergwijn* had a great match as well. Really looking forward to PSV vs Spurs because I really think we can show our best (don't count out up and coming Pablo Rosario either).

* but also Denzel Dumfries! Saw a comment on the beeb abt the match from a Scotsman saying: "Holland playing someone named Dumfries (PSV) is the biggest achievement of Scottish football in at least 25 years" which made me chuckle)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 October 2018 19:13 (three years ago) link

England two nil up in Spain atm.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 15 October 2018 19:15 (three years ago) link

Three!

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 15 October 2018 19:23 (three years ago) link

Must be the Winks effect.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 15 October 2018 19:23 (three years ago) link

ah, there's a thread for this thing. Thiago aside, this Spain team is absolute muck

Number None, Monday, 15 October 2018 19:26 (three years ago) link

Lol at Ramos. Shambles. The only thing that can save him now is a red card.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 October 2018 19:28 (three years ago) link

what on earth, who are these Spanish impostors?

calzino, Monday, 15 October 2018 19:46 (three years ago) link

It feels like the most despondent time to be an Ireland supporter since the Staunton era.

― . (Michael B), Monday, 15 October 2018 09:29 (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wtf at this

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Monday, 15 October 2018 19:50 (three years ago) link

OTT perhaps but I haven't felt this despondent about the team in a long while

. (Michael B), Monday, 15 October 2018 21:07 (three years ago) link

agreed

Number None, Monday, 15 October 2018 21:09 (three years ago) link

there was a bleak comedy to Stan at least

Number None, Monday, 15 October 2018 21:09 (three years ago) link

trap lads trap

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Monday, 15 October 2018 21:27 (three years ago) link

Current reign of O'Neill has a whiff of Final Days of Trap about it with added PsychoKeane in there also

. (Michael B), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 00:52 (three years ago) link

Christie should have punished that mistake other than that all that’s to report is mcclean trying to kill as many fellas as he can

. (Michael B), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:55 (three years ago) link

it's not actually that good of a free kick lads

Number None, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:08 (three years ago) link

Top corner me hole

. (Michael B), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:09 (three years ago) link

Griezmann 2 - Germany 1. Is this Löw's last match as Germany manager?

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:32 (three years ago) link

theyll be looking for a new löw after this new low, the löw affair is well and truly öwer

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:43 (three years ago) link

Are you stuck in the Pyrenees somewhere? Your ö is shöwing!

(also as if this were whatsapp: i tried to get tix for PSV-Spurs for us but failed; Wanyama's more popular o'er here than I thought!)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:46 (three years ago) link

Only seen a 5 min recap but Lloris was playing in beast mode tonight.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:57 (three years ago) link

xp ah cheers but the days are filled as it is until i get höme

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:59 (three years ago) link

Gibraltar wins again what the f is happening

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:02 (three years ago) link

Oh ffs Ireland give us a little help here :( Now we have to at least draw against Wales in Wales.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:06 (three years ago) link

look if ye cant beat us......

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:10 (three years ago) link

"Is this Löw's last match as Germany manager?"

such a nation of enfeebled methodists, they are even too polite to sack crap managers :p

calzino, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:11 (three years ago) link

someone has to nail a theses to the door of the FA iirc

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:13 (three years ago) link

look if ye cant beat us......

― Dmac TT (darraghmac), 16. oktober 2018 23:10 (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Only half the time, apparently :(

Frederik B, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:18 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

wtf Scotland running riot here.

ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Saturday, 17 November 2018 21:14 (two years ago) link

Best dressed men in Albania

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 17 November 2018 22:48 (two years ago) link

better than the world cup this tourney

nxd, Monday, 19 November 2018 10:02 (two years ago) link

some very enjoyable games, the game between belgium and switzerland last night was a cracker

i still dont know what they are playing for though - placing in the euros?

. (Michael B), Monday, 19 November 2018 10:25 (two years ago) link

For the sheer love of football

Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 November 2018 10:27 (two years ago) link

*wipes away tear*

. (Michael B), Monday, 19 November 2018 10:42 (two years ago) link

Denmark won promotion, so next year it's six big losses. Yay.

Frederik B, Monday, 19 November 2018 10:51 (two years ago) link

winner of each of the 4 finals gets a place i think

nxd, Monday, 19 November 2018 10:54 (two years ago) link

I still don't understand it. Why are all the good teams playing each other, and why is there a sort of numpty section set aside for Scotland etc?

ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Monday, 19 November 2018 10:58 (two years ago) link

That's how it is with leagues. The best English teams are in Premier League as well :)

Frederik B, Monday, 19 November 2018 11:46 (two years ago) link

So there's actually two leagues operating here and that explains the relegation... uh.

ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Monday, 19 November 2018 11:56 (two years ago) link

Yeah, there's four tiers. The Better Than Denmark, The Just as Good as Denmark, The Worse Than Denmark, and the A Lot Worse Than Denmark. Or at least that's how I understand it.

Frederik B, Monday, 19 November 2018 12:08 (two years ago) link

this should be fun

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 7 October 2021 18:38 (one week ago) link

crazy good attempts from both teams already

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 7 October 2021 18:52 (one week ago) link

deflected and in! wow

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 7 October 2021 19:24 (one week ago) link

Filthy from Lukaku

Lloris beaten near post twice but not sure he had much chance either

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 October 2021 19:31 (one week ago) link

ha, ya, man. i was at lunch, but saw it. i feel like france's offensive line tries to be too fancy

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:05 (one week ago) link

France deserved that. Benzema has been so good this season.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:05 (one week ago) link

and just as i say that, france put one in

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:05 (one week ago) link

Pen for me

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:10 (one week ago) link

France come out serious this half, pretty irresistible

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:11 (one week ago) link

i think so. clumsy tbh

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:12 (one week ago) link

wow. this is getting good lol

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:12 (one week ago) link

Great peno, liked the confidence to have the ball set up and waiting too

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:13 (one week ago) link

Oh what football

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:16 (one week ago) link

Touch from lukaka in the buildup was dream stuff

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:17 (one week ago) link

Keeping an eye on the Euro Under 21 Qualifying score between Portugal and Liechtenstein, 9-0 at half time.

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:17 (one week ago) link

Which way

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:18 (one week ago) link

Given that there are only 15 people under 21 in Liechtenstein...

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:20 (one week ago) link

Theyll fade away in the second half so after the subs you're saying

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:21 (one week ago) link

Terrific break.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:29 (one week ago) link

lukaku

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:30 (one week ago) link

Boom

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:30 (one week ago) link

Oh no, offside.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:30 (one week ago) link

Carrasco def on?

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:31 (one week ago) link

What a game

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:31 (one week ago) link

lukaku has been offside quite a few times now

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:31 (one week ago) link

What a free kick.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:32 (one week ago) link

Theo!

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:32 (one week ago) link

Amazing game.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:33 (one week ago) link

Wow

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:34 (one week ago) link

Queuing up to hit that

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:34 (one week ago) link

holy crap. the table has turned

france were so confident in this half

belgium were so unorganized

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:34 (one week ago) link

Alderweireld and courtois must be better

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:35 (one week ago) link

Gavi looks an extraordinary talent

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:04 (one week ago) link

good lord

Punster McPunisher, Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:09 (one week ago) link

lol i just spotted gavi among all of the spanish squad

he does look like a 13 year old

Punster McPunisher, Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:09 (one week ago) link

What a riposte.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:10 (one week ago) link

Amazing

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:12 (one week ago) link

Another fabulous game

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:12 (one week ago) link

Mbappe should score that tbh

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:12 (one week ago) link

Offside surely

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:26 (one week ago) link

I can’t understand that decision unless there was a Spain player offscreen playing him on.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:28 (one week ago) link

i thought so, as well. but it almost looked like a spanish player touched it before it got to mbappe, which would make it on, i guess?

Punster McPunisher, Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:29 (one week ago) link

He’s still off when the ball was played unless he’s not interfering with play,

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:30 (one week ago) link

Yup that’s what we heard here

i thought so, as well. but it almost looked like a spanish player touched it before it got to mbappe, which would make it on, i guess?

AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:31 (one week ago) link

Shot, save, top class stuff

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:34 (one week ago) link

lol i love when they get the goalkeeper to come out as well

it's so ballsy

Punster McPunisher, Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:39 (one week ago) link

Great finish to that

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:42 (one week ago) link

Goal should be ruled offside, hes off and its not a new phase ffs

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:49 (one week ago) link

so reading and watching examples of this kind of play, it looks like this is an attacker (mbappe) gaining an advantage due to the ball deflecting off an opponent (garcia):

gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
* rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar, match official or an opponent
* been deliberately saved by any opponent

regardless whether it deflected off garcia, it would still be offside, because garcia wasn't deliberately playing the ball. and apparently, a lot of refs call this offside often.

however, it's not offside if the opponent (garcia) deliberately plays the ball:

A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent.

so, the ref must've thought garcia deliberately played the ball. his slide was intended to play the ball, but he never reached it enough to intercept and instead it was deflected, which would make it an offside, in my view.

there should be a clause added in the IFAB that a deliberate play of the ball means the opponent has possession of the ball, so it's not merely the opponent's intention to play the ball, and that way all deflections should be ruled offside

https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/offside/#offside-offence

this is insane. i feel bad for spain

Ice cold finish from Mbappe 🥶 pic.twitter.com/KVndKblXGk

— ESPN FC (@ESPNFC) October 10, 2021

Punster McPunisher, Sunday, 10 October 2021 21:40 (one week ago) link

Agree with that take

Spurs got the benefit of similar vs lfc a few years back and it shouldve been tidied up after that

Mbappe is offside and interfering with play its a simple call

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 October 2021 22:16 (one week ago) link


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