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awesome, want to go this, even though i would prefer to never go back to the meadowlands.
happy this is happening.

mizzell, Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:02 (three years ago) link

sucks that half of the venues have artificial turf.

mizzell, Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:16 (three years ago) link

yeah, it's definitely unfortunate. professional soccer should not be played on artificial turf except in extenuating circumstances - really harsh climate + lack of money to maintain grass makes it justified in smaller, lower/smaller league club soccer imo.

definitely going to a game in seattle (im in van bc), hoping chile play a group game there, if not I'm hoping for a knockout game or two to be played there.

will be interesting to see how popular this tournament will be.

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:22 (three years ago) link

feeling good about renewing my Fire season tickets despite their incredible suckiness bc now I'm afforded a pre-sale for games at Soldier Field

otm about artificial turf, tho apparently they're laying down temp grass which is still stupid

pratt truss it (dan m), Monday, 23 November 2015 15:31 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

USA, Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico announced as seeded teams. USA and Arg will play in Chicago for sure. Gonna get on that presale, likely the best benefit to Fire season tix this year.

pratt truss it (dan m), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:53 (three years ago) link

chile not seeded booooooooooooooo

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:54 (three years ago) link

currently second only to argentina in the fifa world rankings out of all the teams from the Americas :>c

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:55 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbyIVGgWEAAEYBm.jpg

pratt truss it (dan m), Monday, 22 February 2016 02:08 (three years ago) link

Cool.

Thank You For Cosmic Jive Talkin' (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 22 February 2016 02:15 (three years ago) link

group stage bringing a rematch of last year's final :)

Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:56 (three years ago) link

ach looking at the schedule and the chile v argentina game in the bay area is achievable for me but probably not going to make it, blah. might try for the quarter final scheduled in seattle.

Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 21:21 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Chile absolutely giving it vs Mexico right now, man they're a lot of fun to watch.

pratt truss it (dan m), Thursday, 2 June 2016 03:54 (three years ago) link

Tickets for Jamaica v Venezuela in Chicago can be had for as little as $2, totally gonna go.

pratt truss it (dan m), Thursday, 2 June 2016 03:55 (three years ago) link

Aaand Chicharito scores a classic Chicharito goal

pratt truss it (dan m), Thursday, 2 June 2016 03:57 (three years ago) link

USA off to a very USA start

pratt truss it (dan m), Saturday, 4 June 2016 01:55 (three years ago) link

Not sure exactly what happened but on the way home one of my Colombian friends said to me "Gringo, lo siento."

Prince Rogers (Version) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 June 2016 04:40 (three years ago) link

Oh wait, I think he told me the score, 2-0, iirc.

Prince Rogers (Version) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 June 2016 04:41 (three years ago) link

Sorta stupid to put games like Costa Rica/Paraguay in 70,000 seat stadiums instead of a more appropriate MLS venue.

pratt truss it (dan m), Saturday, 4 June 2016 21:54 (three years ago) link

Monday night 7pm pacific is Chile v Argentina. Pumped for the game.

the unbearable jimmy smits (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 4 June 2016 23:20 (three years ago) link

Brazil gifted a non-call to avoid going down a goal. Despite the 0-0, the best game so far.

pratt truss it (dan m), Sunday, 5 June 2016 04:02 (three years ago) link

@ Jamaica v Venezuela right now tbh

pratt truss it (dan m), Sunday, 5 June 2016 21:58 (three years ago) link

It's interesting to see teams play soccer in Chicago and like try to win

pratt truss it (dan m), Sunday, 5 June 2016 21:58 (three years ago) link

pulling stats for this week's games, saw this for argentina-chile tonight:

Chile was not able to convert in any of the last 7 matches vs Argentina at the Copa America. The last time they scored a goal vs Argentina was in 1959, they lost 1-6.

would be shocked if this streak continues after how chile looked against mexico the other night

pratt truss it (dan m), Monday, 6 June 2016 19:45 (three years ago) link

although after watching mexico again last night it's pretty clear they've come to play

pratt truss it (dan m), Monday, 6 June 2016 19:45 (three years ago) link

flipping back and forth between pens vs sharks and chile-argentina

american style xx.x channels are so weird

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 01:29 (three years ago) link

ARGvCHI and MEXvURU the games of the tournament so far imo

also: LOL

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkXDHngUUAAHUTK.jpg

pratt truss it (dan m), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 16:33 (three years ago) link

usa 4-o crc

that was slightly unexpected

pratt truss it (dan m), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 02:16 (three years ago) link

Colombia looking very good here, thought not quite at Mexico or Argentina's level.

Just curious since this thread isn't getting much traffic: Is it less interesting because it's an off-sequence tournament, or do people just not care on a different level? Or maybe it's the time the games are played? It's a little surprising honestly, given the traffic on the Euros thread.

pratt truss it (dan m), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 03:59 (three years ago) link

For my part I just haven't had a chance to watch until just now, but I think in general lots of people care more about the other tournament.

Half Man Half Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 04:10 (three years ago) link

Hell of a goal by Ayala for Paraguay just now, 30+ yards.

pratt truss it (dan m), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 04:11 (three years ago) link

xp that's pretty much what I figured

pratt truss it (dan m), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 04:11 (three years ago) link

Yeah, that goal was really nice

Half Man Half Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 04:15 (three years ago) link

Redd card!?

Half Man Half Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 04:20 (three years ago) link

Colombia the first team through to the Quarterfinal with that win. They looked tired towards the end for sure, the game got sort of end-to-end there.

pratt truss it (dan m), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 04:40 (three years ago) link

Yeah

Half Man Half Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 04:49 (three years ago) link

wrt to copa america popularity compared to the euros, well it's style, stars and location i guess

latin american football is pretty different and the players are considered lower tier, with most wanting to make it big in europe; probably because they are bigger markets, so more money

and the euros will start friday with tonnes of star players. i mean just look at germany though they have a lot of older players now as well

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 19:02 (three years ago) link

they have pretty much failed to deliver on the stars that are participating, it's true, although James is kicking ass

I don't agree with the lower level part overall, I mean Bolivia suuuuucks, and never mind Haiti, but there has been some top level play for sure

RIP Haiti btw

pratt truss it (dan m), Thursday, 9 June 2016 00:51 (three years ago) link

I mean obv with the non-Mexico CONCACAF sides included the level is lower

pratt truss it (dan m), Thursday, 9 June 2016 00:56 (three years ago) link

Haiti's goal tonight on local radio: https://twitter.com/Raschiid/status/740721330492985345?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

pratt truss it (dan m), Thursday, 9 June 2016 03:13 (three years ago) link

(they lost 7-1 to brazil)

\ecuador ties it 2-2 with peru as I type

pratt truss it (dan m), Thursday, 9 June 2016 03:14 (three years ago) link

Had to walk away when the Vino Tinto got injured. Has the game gained any momentum?

Half Man Half Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 June 2016 00:01 (three years ago) link

Vinotinto

Half Man Half Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 June 2016 00:11 (three years ago) link

What's black and white and red all over?

Half Man Half Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 June 2016 00:43 (three years ago) link

dave225
briania
Mott de Terre
Joe McCombs

Half Man Half Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 June 2016 00:57 (three years ago) link

Ha wrong thread

Half Man Half Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 June 2016 00:57 (three years ago) link

https://twitter.com/deejayfaremi/status/741146521333293058

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 10 June 2016 08:31 (three years ago) link

I have always been slightly put off the copa america by its numbing frequency, but more crucially its not televised much. I watched costa rica - Paraguay this time, but I won't bear a grudge

ogmor, Friday, 10 June 2016 08:44 (three years ago) link

Omg messi wtf

Neanderthal, Monday, 27 June 2016 02:47 (three years ago) link

Congrats JiG!

Blandford Forum, Monday, 27 June 2016 02:53 (three years ago) link

Man I am gutted for Messi

Neanderthal, Monday, 27 June 2016 02:53 (three years ago) link

Yes major grats

Neanderthal, Monday, 27 June 2016 02:53 (three years ago) link

ugh gutted for messi too

k3vin k., Monday, 27 June 2016 02:55 (three years ago) link

Post-game Messi apparently said he's retiring from international play?

pratt truss it (dan m), Monday, 27 June 2016 12:30 (three years ago) link

lost all four major international finals, he's fed up

ogmor, Monday, 27 June 2016 12:44 (three years ago) link

I felt bad for Messi immediately following the game. Has been unable to bring success to Argentina and has just lost 3 major finals in two years with the country. Even taking into account his missed penalty last night in the shootout - which is a grave error for sure - he's been their best player in those 3 tournaments and often their best player in the finals they've lost. Despite this the Argentinean public have always been overly hostile to him, never really warming to him or accepting him, criticising him heavily for any real or perceived failures, referring to him as "the Catalan" etc. And he had talked about international retirement before, about 5 years ago due to this.

Still think retiring from the national team is the wrong call. Still, he has 2 years until the next WC, could always return.

Delighted with Chile obviously. Last year when they hosted the Copa America they were in great form, the Borghi era was a great success, had retained the good parts of the Bielsa era, but added some more defensive composure. With the home crowd it really seemed like the only time Chile could possibly hope to win the Copa America, and they did. Then the ANFP (national association of professional football) fell out with Borghi, then Pizzi came in, results and form were poor. Came into this tournament not looking that great, started with a defeat to Argentina, should have been eliminated against Bolivia - won with a very soft penalty in injury time and Bolivia subsequently blew a clear opportunity to equalize with the last kick of the ball. But then the dismantling of Mexico was basically peak Chile. And from what I saw of the highlights last night Argentina were the better team, but the grit and fight of Chile kept them alive.

This is the greatest generation of Chilean footballers, and thankfully it's a relatively young squad. Will be together for the next world cup and the next Copa America in 3 years time. Fantastic to go from basically being an irrelevance in South American football to winning the Copa America twice.

The Nickelbackean Ethics (jim in glasgow), Monday, 27 June 2016 16:45 (three years ago) link

agh, and of course it was Sampaoli who had brought chile to their apotheosis, won the Copa America last year, and then was swiftly gotten rid of, the ANFP just likes to go through Bielsista managers at an alarming rate and it can be hard to keep up

The Nickelbackean Ethics (jim in glasgow), Monday, 27 June 2016 16:51 (three years ago) link

sorry I missed this thread. been away from ilx for a few months.

i watched all the Chile games (and attended one) plus a bunch of others. thrilled for my Roja, gutted for Messi nonetheless (really, it's one thing to live in the shadow of that other #10, and another when that 10 is alive and surfaces to gargle his stomach acids at the worst possible times).

one thing that seems to have escaped notice from much of the post-Final press i've read (most of which is about the Argentina/Messi "curse" etc): the work of the Chilean midfield in the final game, and in particular Vidal. Monster game from Arturo.

cheers jim!

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 17:02 (three years ago) link

jealous you got to a game, altho my tentative plan was to attend the opener against argentina which they lost so maybe I didn't miss out too much, ha.

viva chile CTM!

The Nickelbackean Ethics (jim in glasgow), Monday, 4 July 2016 22:29 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

copa america is on. japan and qatar in it this year. probably not enough interest to merit a new thread tbh.

japan v chile in 2 and a half hours.

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 17 June 2019 20:27 (one month ago) link

Chile lineup looks old

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:45 (one month ago) link

old gold

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:50 (one month ago) link

no we are old and the chances of retaining the championship are slim to none :'-(

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:50 (one month ago) link

most of this team played at the 2010 world cup

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:54 (one month ago) link

Qatar played well and should probably have won from 2-0 down.

Japan starting with a striker who had never played a professional football match possibly suggests they aren’t taking it all that seriously. Makes sense to give their youth team a taste of major tournaments, though.

Argentina were predictably awful.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 06:11 (one month ago) link

Not 100% sure but I think when teams have guest spots outside their confederation they typically don't send full power teams. I know USA didn't when they were in the Copa in 2007.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 12:30 (one month ago) link

Yeah I think traditionally it's a youth team with a smattering of first team players

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 15:12 (one month ago) link

I thought that had been changing in recent times.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 15:18 (one month ago) link

Watching COL-QAT with a lot of yellow jerseys around me.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 23:08 (one month ago) link

Some blue and orange too

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 June 2019 00:02 (one month ago) link

Not watching this one, just following from a distance

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 June 2019 02:05 (one month ago) link

bit of a barmy tournament so far. highlight must be argentina sitting at the bottom of their group equal on points with qatar (who they have still to play and will almost undoubtedly defeat). uruguay and japan game ending in a 2-2 draw and venezuela holding brazil to a nil nil also quite interesting.

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 June 2019 18:28 (one month ago) link

Brazil had three goals ruled out by VAR! The Japan result was a real shock.

I think Qatar might be pretty decent by the time of the World Cup if they continue at this rate. There is less of a reliance on naturalised Brazilians and some of their young players look quite good prospects.

ShariVari, Friday, 21 June 2019 18:32 (one month ago) link

i heard they were quite unlucky against columbia. only conceded in the last few minutes of regulation time

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 June 2019 18:35 (one month ago) link

Watching the highlights from this 5-0 Brazil-Peru match.

If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 June 2019 22:37 (one month ago) link

CHEQUEO VAR

If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 June 2019 20:28 (one month ago) link

REVISIÓN VAR

If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 June 2019 20:28 (one month ago) link

Looks like maybe a handball

If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 June 2019 20:30 (one month ago) link

chile vs uruguay starts now. promises to be a good game.

VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Monday, 24 June 2019 23:00 (one month ago) link

alexis just tracked someone back there 0_0

VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Monday, 24 June 2019 23:21 (one month ago) link

hes played well so far tbf

. (Michael B), Monday, 24 June 2019 23:52 (one month ago) link

columbia v chile in two and a half hours: colombia the best team of the tournament so far.

heart says la roja de todos, head says colombia

VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:38 (three weeks ago) link

chile were late getting to the stadium so the game is delayed lol

VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Friday, 28 June 2019 22:56 (three weeks ago) link

oh my god, an absolute travesty of a VAR decision overturning a perfectly legal chile goal. i am fucking raging.

VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Friday, 28 June 2019 23:41 (three weeks ago) link

get VAR to fuck

VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Friday, 28 June 2019 23:41 (three weeks ago) link

ok they're VARing another definitely fine goal and if it gets chopped off i am going to literally go insane.

oh and he has, handball. for one of those daft handball nothings (guy had his arm at a 90 degree angle resting on his chest and the ball hit it and his chest without him having any chance to do anything about it

VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 29 June 2019 00:58 (three weeks ago) link

some of these haircuts are super high maintenance.

Yerac, Saturday, 29 June 2019 01:30 (three weeks ago) link

True.

I'm drunk and listening to Nueva Cancion. My dad messagd me around midnight my time because he turned his phone on when he woke up in anticipation of a message from me regarding the score.

VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 29 June 2019 10:13 (three weeks ago) link

This golden generation might just have it in them

Hope so

VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 29 June 2019 10:13 (three weeks ago) link

we weren't watching the game but then realized it was on because of being able to hear the chileans cheer.

Yerac, Saturday, 29 June 2019 10:53 (three weeks ago) link

second-half collapse by canada

mookieproof, Sunday, 30 June 2019 01:02 (three weeks ago) link

Don’t you mean to post that on this thread: CONCACAF (soccer)

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 June 2019 01:04 (three weeks ago) link

indeed so

mookieproof, Sunday, 30 June 2019 01:25 (three weeks ago) link

Strange that Argentina was the only team that scored in the quarter finals.

Chile could definitely go all the way. Nobody has been particularly impressive.

ShariVari, Sunday, 30 June 2019 06:52 (three weeks ago) link

Weird that VAR was relatively unobtrusive in 2018 World Cup and so abysmal this year. Probably due to the terrible 6/1 rule rollout that has every nothing called a handball

Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Sunday, 30 June 2019 23:27 (three weeks ago) link

well that was rough.

peru beat chile 3-0 to go through to the final vs brazil (who beat argentina, likely ending lionel messi's chances of ever winning a trophy with argentina).

brazil of course beat peru 5-0 already the tournament, so, not sure the final is going to be a classic.

nice for peru tho, first final since 1975.

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 July 2019 17:22 (two weeks ago) link

I didn't see this game but I did see Peru v Uruguay last weekend and would never have bet on Peru against Chile after that

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 4 July 2019 19:44 (two weeks ago) link

Messi sent off for quite literally nothing. Game has gone. pic.twitter.com/3qyJHuXRPn

— Adam ✍🏻 (@AdamSport_) July 6, 2019

Messi and Medel sent off for chesting each other.

ShariVari, Saturday, 6 July 2019 19:50 (two weeks ago) link


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