Parachute money fails to deploy - the Football League and beyond 2015-16

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He's ready to gtfo

somebody had to take the plunge, so to speak

if he gs tfo as top scorer after gameweek one it will be a right old shame

can we do some more READY pix now

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he's ready to follow orders

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HE'S CLEARLY READY

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JIMMY'S READY

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HE'S GOING PLACES

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HE'S NOT

Rösler is already coming out with this "give me another season" narrative, lol not happening dude!

It's an extraordinarily beautiful morning in East Devon and I'm feeling an odd feeling of looking forward excitedly to the new season, but having no real expectation of any particular excitement.

I'd be surprised if we are much involved in happenings at either end of the league, but then again I'm often surprised.

Lovely boring social football season.

Tisdale only has to last the season and he'll bring up the Big Ten

this is one of the best football wiki pages obv: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Football_League_managers

gareth ainsworth at 11 already

i see one obvious candidate for not being in the top 10 by next May

you're right - Jim Bentley's taken Morecambe as far as he can go

considering the number of times Karl Robinson's name crops up when anybody from Champo down needs a new manager that's an impressive record of nobody wanting him

tbf he's turned a few down

kind of wonderful that the league's premier paragon of loyalty is the mk dons manager

also, Tisdale is ~42 years old~

he could go full Gradi if Exeter feel like it

Several things would need to change significantly at the club for him to want to leave, or be sacked I think (our corporate decision-making structure is not really fit for firing managers, I think).

My instinct is that Gradi is Tisdale's model, but I do wonder whether he fancies a crack at something bigger than little old Exeter. Conventional wisdom is that he was offered the Swansea job twice back along, including the time that Brendan R took it - tis's career trajectory would have been very different if he'd gone then, for good or ill.

Now I think he likes the continuity and has an eye on his own ongoing quality of life - there's a chance he really will eventually be seen as a Gradi figure, especially if we can get the odd promotion here or there. Two Exeter youngsters in last year's England u-20 squad (the only ones from outside the prem iirc), two more in the u-15 right now, there's a chance that we'll come good (some version thereof at least) with the youth system.

You were not a million miles from a tilt at the Championship a few years ago. Could it happen again? The leagues are getting tougher and tougher as player recruitment and coaching improves and globalises, but if you can't beat 'em...

There's no reason it couldn't happen, but it requires a bit more of each of luck + brilliance as each year goes by.

I should add that I *love* Paul Tisdale but lots of our fans don't, he's by no means perfect.

62 percent possession first half, never change Kenny J

t.watt indeed

sounds like a greeno rick, glad we're back in the groove

Gillingham is the big story in L1 today

ffs just need Doncaster R to get a late winner for a 119/1 acc

oh shi

Yes!

93rd minute!

Holy Shit! I have Ipswhich13/5,Sheff Wed 11/8, Donny5/4, Notts Co 21/10. Not quite 119/1 but I have £2 on it!

oh fuck

Leon f'ing Clarke as well!

lol that must be Leon's most valuable goal ever

i mean literally

i suspect we have not missed him today

4-1 was a decent enough start, plus we hit the woodwork three times. They were favourites to go up last week.

Attendance 4060, a league record. By over 2500. They brought 37.

tsk you money clubs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE

chin up rtc if twatt hadn't had a little incident in training during the week and been banished to the naughty step for 45 minutes it could have been worse

I haven't watched it yet but it sounds like Football League Tonight is a terrible show and some are even saying "we will even take Claridge back, anything but this!"

I might just catch it later for the league table review bit

lol, more on Clarke's at the death equaliser.

Doncaster allowed Bury to walk in an equaliser after netting a freak goal themselves in a bizarre 1-1 draw at the Keepmoat Stadium.

Paul Dickov instructed his players to clear a path for Bury to find the net after Doncaster scored by mistake in second-half stoppage time when attempting to return an act of good sportsmanship.

The midfielder Harry Forrester tried, following a throw-in, to return the ball to visiting goalkeeper Christian Walton who had knocked it out of play following an injury, but the ball bounced over Walton and found the Bury net.

Rather than take advantage, Doncaster allowed Leon Clarke to amble half the length of the pitch unchallenged before tapping home.

doncaster deserve more credit, having leon walk it in is like burying a 30 yard free kick

The C5 FL show was jawdroppingly bad

Crystal Palace have accepted an offer from Bristol City for striker Dwight Gayle, according to Sky sources.

It is understood the deal is worth £6m, but could rise to as much as £8m with incentives that have been included in the bid.

I knew that Landsdown was minted but their current chairman Dawe is only worth a modest £40m so there must be someone else bankrolling them

I was googling Bristol City chairman and found out that one of them was a former Pet Shop Boys/Bros keyboard player.

Images of him shoehorning in a Drop The Boy gag at every board meeting

Itt weak jokes that you make that could have been sketches on the laughter show

I couldn't care less about the league cup but jeez Powell, playing 5 at the back at home against L2 opposition and not changing anything when they are down to 10 is diabolical management.

Sometimes I think the last few managers we have had all resorted to self sabotage deliberately in order to get sacked because it is a shit job and some kind of malaise sets in after a season.

At least Brentford have the 10 changes excuse

nothing says old gold and black like... the sun

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36503204

Premier league academy teams to be included in the JPT. There will probably be fixtures where the playing and coaching staff are more than the attendance.

new Wolves ad brought to you in association with Ulver

Bodvarsson deal's done already

our Academy team are in the Paintpot too, not all Prem teams took the offer and then it came down to Champo teams

Pompey fans are planning a mass walkout at their first JPT fixture. I didn't realise there was so much passion for the integrity of this great competition :p

gotta draw a line somewh nah i can't do it straightfaced

Lots of people seem super hacked-off at our place about this, too, though I can't get too excited about it. Umbrage appears to be based around (a) the way it was apparently sprung on the Football League meeting with no time to consult (obv this has a greater resonance for a club like ours where the Chief Exec is supposed to be accountable to the Trust etc) and (b) that this is plainly the thin end of the wedge for introducing B teams into the football league - I'm not sure it is but I think it does no harm to reinforce the point that we aren't terribly keen on our little competition being further devalued just because the FA can't think of anything else to do to pretend they're fixing the England team, ESPECIALLY when the measure being proposed would have no effect on the England team.

feel like if anything it might bring in a bit more revenue for some of the fixtures. the competition is so peripheral, if anything it's a pain in the arse having to play the extra fixtures in a 46 match season, that i can't see clubs themselves being fussed

I don't suppose the clubs are terribly fussed, no, I get the impression that it was kinda shrugged through. That says to me they think it has a chance of making a few bob which probably balances out the arsepain.

For example though, we get to host some cockamamie Chelsea U21 team at our place - it has about the same status as a PSF for our fans, they might whip up a couple of thousand people at a push, but I bet Devon's Finest demand top-level police presence which (unless the crowd is unaccountably bumper for some unexpected reason, like Chelsea sign Messi and it's his first run-out) will result in a net loss to the club.

There is, I suppose, a chance it'll work beautifully; more to the point I have a feeling the various clubs at the FL meeting which approved this did not just want to say no to *everything* and this was the least-dumb of the various dumb proposals.

that sounds about right, tho i seriously hope the police won't be allowed to line their pockets just because the name on some unknown teenagers' shirts happens to be that of a Prem club

Sorry, break this down for me pls: are academy squads playing in L1/L2 in the future or is it some new cup or w/e?

it's a cup only previously open to league 1 and league 2. it's existed for ages but is almost entirely pointless unless you get to wembley, then you can say it matters. the fa vase is more important

they've turned it into a mini-league system for some reason though, which means that you'll be seeing u21 sides from the lower-league teams as well

Nice to hear Newcastle and Aston Villa getting their own dedicated show on 5 live tonight, maybe the Championship preview is on tomorrow.

Ty LJ!

Not to go all 'in Holland...' on you all, but in Holland they've let academy teams of the biggest teams (PSV, Ajax) in the championship a couple of years ago. Just like in Spain, where the big clubs have a B team in the second tier, too. (They were booted from playing in any cup because of this).
Frankly it's a shambles. PSV and Ajax are allowed to play their subs, not allowed to be promoted to the Eredivisie (as if they even come close). Attendance when 'young' PSV or Ajax are coming to the Championship clubs approaches zero. And rightly so imho.

A cup I can see, but you can't expect fans to be excited to have Chelsea's academy coming to town.

One of my abiding memories of the JPT is of our kit-man telling everyone in the bookies to lump on Boston Utd because there were only 7 players in training that day and the manager wasn't arsed about progressing.

(No idea what thread is for what anymore, this seems to be the footy thread of the day, but holy shit Dundalk FC beating Bate Borisov 3-0 tonight in the CL tonight is something else)

LBI if this impinged on the league i'd be against it as anybody but because it's in a minor joke knockout competition it doesn't feel like a big deal

Yeah otm, academy teams in a cup no one really cares about doesn't seem like too big a deal. Highly annoying if yer team gets beaten by Chelsea Academy tho, but this doesn't seem as alarming as I thought it was tbh.

efl trophy is an ailing, probably dying competition for sure but the concern lies with the fl's continuing/deepening subservience to the epl and scudamore's vague-at-best (6 game cup run so what), insidious-at-worst (b-teams) schemes to improve the optics around its scant regard for youth/lower league english football

obv they can't not deal with the devil and his "solidarity payments" but there's pragmatism and there's a fuckface goon like shaun harvey grovelling at the trough while plenty of other glaring governance issues rot unaddressed

cup thing has been typically farcically executed in any case, chairman who voted for it seem not to have realised it was a "proposal to invite" as the money-spinning big club academies decline en masse

all fair points

It looks like Norwich have hijacked Brighton's move for Pritchard, the seagulls are crying foul.

Many xp to imago, p sure one reason fans of L1/2 teams are annoyed is that there are fines for lower league teams who don't play the same players in the JPT as they do in the league.

From the EFL Trophy rules: "Each EFL Club shall play its full available strength in and during all Matches. The League will from time to time issue a policy as to what constitutes 'full available strength'. Any Club failing to meet this requirement will be required to pay a fine of up to £5,000."

has that always been there? i can remember us giving kids a run out a couple of seasons back

No it's new, maybe to ensure the EPL kids get a proper test or something? We've always played 2nd string in JPT til now

ok that is aggravating. i could just see a justification for applying it in a group stage but in a knockout competition the side you choose to play has no real bearing on anybody else.

on the other hand looking at available players at the moment half our Academy team are going to have full Champo experience already/ongoing

pajtim kasami moves on a season loan from olympiakos to forest, who are definitely not both owned by the same crook

lol! one minute Brighton fans thought they had Pritchard and now they have Norwood. Not a bad player tbh but hardly a marquee signing.

yeah i like norwood

think that might mean dale stephens to burnley. can only hope a big sell-on fee will at least in some small way help to alleviate the pain of relegation for duchatelet

Norwood can be a gamechanger, but he is guaranteed to go missing for long periods.

our moron fans hated stephens and thought him a league one player because he didn't maul opponents every game

He did a good job of mauling one of our players once! but it was Hammill who wasn't beyond assaulting female ambulance staff himself, so scratch that!

good to see Ross McCormack stepping up as the new Jordan Rhodes now we've finally lost the original

There is time in the transfer window yet for him to make a dream return and he does love those signing on fees! There were rumours last month he was being "touted to rich championship clubs".

he must be forced to at least try a season in the Prem just so we can snigger knowingly

sing to me of kevin foley, noodle

always a darling of Big Mick's, make of that what you will. pretty sure he won our fan's Player of the Season award one year, either the promotion season or the first season in the Prem under McCarthy i think. he wasn't quick when he was with us and i'm sure he's got no quicker but he's a decent enough defensive full back, should still be fine in League 1 i reckon, also plays solid but unspectacular left/centre midfield. a born utility player basically.

that is all pretty reassuring ty

wonder if he made it to swygart's unglamorous colback thread, or whether he was too unglamorous for that

quick flick thru Wiki suggests fitness might be your biggest worry but on a 5-month contract i wouldn't be sweating

it's a shame wolves went down cos they were chocka with this sort of lad, i never had a clue which one was stearman, craddock, edwards or ward

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not glam enough for this post

craddock is a fucking painter though, he should never have been mentioned

brb checking out jody's latest works

an artist on the pitch and off

somewhere in my mom's house i think there's one of Jody's prints :(

Stears, Edwards, Ward and Foley would be the great interchangeables altho i swear on his day Stears has been known to be actually good

real tiefighters, real tones

https://twitter.com/MrJodyCraddock/status/761516842724757504

kevin foley also had the added problem of his equally memorable coeval keith fahey of birmingham

(am only in a position to bring him up at all after coincidentally seeing this yday https://twitter.com/TVsCarlKinsella/status/761306174528643073)

"shay mulligan, gerry daly, pat irishman, fintan flood, tadhg o'rourke... etc"

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