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the actual audio is on the PL thread!

Number None, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 21:33 (seven months ago) link

Oh the audio was released. So good.

crisp, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 21:35 (seven months ago) link

VAR fucked it again tonight in the atlético feyenoord game. well done lads

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 18:51 (seven months ago) link

Can you imagine if this happened in an Old Firm game? There'd be civil war.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 19:22 (seven months ago) link

two months pass...

It was 8 minutes past midnight before VAR confirmed that it is, indeed, 2024.

— Ian Darke (@IanDarke) January 1, 2024

emishi sun hack (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 January 2024 11:30 (four months ago) link

VAR on the ropes; no doubt this is part of an accelerationist plot to restore a wild west where referees are at liberty to allow Man City and Newcastle infringements based on Personal Preference

― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Sunday, 4 September 2022 14:26 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

i know we keep saying we unironically believe this but we all unironically believe this, right

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 1 January 2024 13:55 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

So in the Africa Cup of Nations semi final Nigeria scored a goal to go 2-0 up with minutes to play, the goal was then reviewed and disallowed and a penalty given to South Africa instead... uhhhhh...

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 20:58 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

Premier League clubs are set to hold a vote at their annual general meeting next month on a proposal to abolish the video assistant referee (VAR) system from the start of next season.

VAR has been used in the English top-flight since 2019, helping improve decision making but also generating persistent controversy.

The 2023-24 campaign has featured many contentious incidents, which has heightened the criticism of VAR and led some teams and fans to question the competition’s integrity.

A resolution has now been formally submitted to the Premier League by Wolverhampton Wanderers calling for VAR to be scrapped this summer — and that will trigger a vote when representatives of the 20 clubs assemble for their yearly gathering, in Harrogate on June 6.

A Wolves statement said the move came “after careful consideration and with the utmost respect for the Premier League, (referees body) PGMOL and our fellow competitors.

“There is no blame to be placed — we are all just looking for the best possible outcome for football — and all stakeholders have been working hard to try and make the introduction of additional technology a success.

“However, after five seasons of VAR in the Premier League, it is time for a constructive and critical debate on its future.

“Our position is that the price we are paying for a small increase in accuracy is at odds with the spirit of our game, and as a result we should remove it from the 2024/25 season onwards.”

A Premier League spokesperson said: “The Premier League can confirm it will facilitate a discussion on VAR with our clubs at the annual general meeting next month.

“Clubs are entitled to put forward proposals at shareholders’ meetings and we acknowledge the concerns and issues around the use of VAR.

“However, the league fully supports the use of VAR and remains committed, alongside PGMOL, to make continued improvements to the system for the benefit of the game and fans.”

Wolves accepted the decision to introduce VAR was “made in good faith and with the best interests of football and the Premier League at its heart” but argued it has caused “numerous unintended negative consequences that are damaging the relationship between fans and football, and undermining the value of the Premier League brand”.

They listed a host of repercussions, such as:

Impact on goal celebrations and the spontaneous passion that makes football special
Frustration and confusion inside stadiums due to lengthy VAR checks and poor communication
A more hostile atmosphere with protests, booing of the Premier League anthem and chants against VAR
Overreach of VAR’s original purpose to correct clear and obvious mistakes, now overanalysing subjective decisions and compromising the game’s fluidity and integrity

Diminished accountability of on-field officials, due to the safety net of VAR, leading to an erosion of authority on the pitch
Continued errors despite VAR, with supporters unable to accept human error after multiple views and replays, damaging confidence in officiating standards

Disruption of the Premier League’s fast pace with lengthy VAR checks and more added time, causing matches to run excessively long
Constant discourse about VAR decisions often overshadowing the match itself, and tarnishing the reputation of the league
Erosion of trust and reputation, with VAR fuelling completely nonsensical allegations of corruption
VAR has again been at the centre of multiple high-profile flashpoints in the past nine months.

Liverpool’s Luis Diaz saw a goal wrongly disallowed for offside against Tottenham Hotspur in September before Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta was left angered by the decision to allow Anthony Gordon’s winning goal to stand for Newcastle United against his side in November.

Nottingham Forest have written letters of complaint to — and considered suing — PGMOL, while also questioning the appointment of VAR Stuart Attwell following April’s defeat at Everton.

IFAB (International Football Association Board), the independent body responsible for the laws of the game, states that VARs can only assist a match official in the event of a “clear and obvious error” or “serious missed incident”.

They can step in on decisions over goals, no goals, penalties, direct red cards or cases of mistaken identity.

Sweden last month became the first country to reject implementing VAR after a fan backlash.

Supporters from clubs — where there must be a minimum of 51 per cent fan-ownership — prompted the climbdown after the president of the Swedish Football Association, Fredrik Reinfeldt, had previously backed the idea.

Premier League clubs have a constitutional right to put forward rule changes, with any proposal needing a two thirds (14-6) majority to pass.

The top-flight’s board of directors believes removing VAR is not the correct path forward, suggesting that doing so would increase wrong calls and adversely impact the Premier League’s reputation among Europe’s leading divisions.

Since VAR was brought in five years ago, the number of correct decisions made in games has increased from 82 per cent, prior to its introduction, to 96 per cent this season.

It also thinks the void left, having removed VAR, would potentially place even greater criticism on on-field decisions made by match officials and increase frustration for supporters.

The league points to innovations such as semi-automated offside technology (SAOT) — which was voted through unanimously in April — and in-stadium VAR announcements as evidence of the efforts being made to improve the system.

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 16:58 (one week ago) link

this will totally lead to a thoughtful, good faith discussion where all the interested parties come together to think about the game as a spectacle and the best interests of fans

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:27 (one week ago) link

"so we are agreed, there will now be four quarters in every game - we will play 22:30, then review the entire quarter and reverse any incorrect calls, then we will play the next 22:30. then review, then halftime, then the next 22:30, rinse repeat. fans must commit to three - four hours of football"

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:29 (one week ago) link

Since VAR was brought in five years ago, the number of correct decisions made in games has increased from 82 per cent, prior to its introduction, to 96 per cent this season.

says what cunt?

dermot gallagher on sky pulling his stomach out to a signed photo of howard dean? fuck off.

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:36 (one week ago) link

a little bit of me is wondering if this is so Fosun can say they've done something this summer

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:38 (one week ago) link

quoting stats on the correctness of decisions is a great way to ignore issues like how infinitesimal is the difference between correct and incorrect, how much the time spent adjudicating a 1mm offside interrupted the flow of a game, and whether those "correct" decisions were applied consistently across all teams and matches

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:41 (one week ago) link

it's not like "red for me" vs "never a red!!!" wasn't a debate pre-VAR, like the way they convinced lemmings this was good was pretending a humongous chunk of the sport isn't simply judgement call, the idea of a 'right call' fairy that will wave a wand and say 'this was the correct call, there is no room for debate, it is now settled'.

obviously some are black and white but these aren't the ones being screamed about. nobody was taping matches in 2015 on old VHS machines so they could frame by frame advance to look where someone's knee was when the ball was played.

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:52 (one week ago) link

if var had stuck to the black & white that was initially promised then just maybe this thread wouldn't exist

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:54 (one week ago) link

I actually think var is good now because it helps Aston Villa catch people offside

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 18:18 (one week ago) link


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