They'll be sacrificing sheep in the streets of Karagandy tonight - Champions League 2013/14

Intrigued by where Chelsea fit into nakh's metric, and what their equivalent game is

Chelsea are something stodgily effective that no one really likes, so turkey.

Err obviously turkey isn't game, but chicken is in this schema so whatever.

chelsea's victory was comparable to inter's or (although much more elegant) milan's in 2007, a team of canny veterans with a very clear identity who reverted to type in the cl, this united side has no identity at all, they have been extensively redrilled by moyes in a way that has purged ferguson's own imprint

they have beaten plenty of crappy sides this season but their record vs good ones is consistently terrible, their only win was a narrow 1-0 at home with an arsenal squad suffering from a virus outbreak

don't think they have better than a 25%, 30% chance of progressing vs any of the remainding sides

less likely to win it than liverpool 2005

chelsea should have gone next to dortmund and atleti (whose chances are being slightly overplayed)

xps

Of course I'm not saying United are likely to win the CL, I'd bet on them to be eliminated in the next round by whoever they play

Just like I would have bet on Chelsea to be eliminated by Napoli after that first leg, on Barca to beat them over two legs and on Bayern to beat them in the final. Nevertheless, sometimes shit happens.

http://media.nutratech.co.uk/media/productimages/148/13/587513.png

xxxps

also just providing fatalistic lfc dudes out there with a snapshot of spurs supporter thought process circa 2012

then it's a falsification of history to pretend any of those chelsea results were particularly unlikely, whatever the GET INVOLVED crowd were texting in at the time

they caught barcelona on a downslope (and who had a poor record vs chelsea) and bayern who were still slightly callow, i'd have given them probably a 25% chance vs barcelona and at least 30% of winning a single game vs bayern

this current united side have maybe a 10% chance of progressing vs bayern

I like turkey

Barca vs Atleti

R Madrid vs Dortmund

PSG vs Chelsea

lol Utd

Man Utd vs Bayern

All a bit meh tbh. Barca/Atleti will be a tedious foulfest. Madrid will wreck Dortmund unfortunately.
Bayern will wreck Man Utd.
PSG vs Chelsea might be interesting.

ilx in faster than other internet champions league draw updates shocker

yeah psg v chelsea is the pick of the bunch there

pretty excited to play Chelsea. their attack should not be too much of a problem for Paris. but it will take hard work to get through their defence.

not the greatest draw, a domestic tie, a repeat of last year, a mismatch and the other one contains chelsea

Robin van Persie ruled out by Manchester United for four to six weeks …

Mata in at #10, Rooney CF. Although not in CL I guess. Kagawa time!!

'I came into this competition as a really inexperienced manager in the Champions League but we have done well and now we have the ultimate test in Bayern Munich,' he said.

'I am really looking forward to coming up against Pep, it is the first time I have done but I have no doubt I will be doing it many times in the future.

Utd 6/1 to win a home game tonight

'I am really looking forward to coming up against Pep, it is the first time I have done but I have no doubt I will be doing it many times in the future.

Got his eye on the Hoffenheim job I assume.

13 Courtois
20 Juanfran
03 Filipe Luis
14 Gabi
23 Miranda
02 Godín
06 Koke
05 Tiago
19 Diego Costa
09 Villa
10 Turan

seems to be a 442 away to barcelona

Shakira is on the bench for Bayern tonight according to Brian Kerr

legit goal by welbeck there

These hopeful/hopeless punts look more Rangers in Europe 2008 than Manchester United at home in CL.

Moyes has instilled in his players a firm belief that they are inferior to top teams and can only hang on and hope for a break.

They don't even break away like a United team. Such fear of committing forward.

neymar's touch and balance is awful, it looks like he's half cut

I persuaded a guy at work to put a pound on a Utd/Athletico double. I'm starting to think the 45/1 he got was a bit stingy.

Genuine lol at the sight of Fellaini suddenly finding himself the most advanced player on the pitch and just blinking like a rabbit in headlights.

The roars of Old Trafford excitement every time the ball crosses the half way line are getting embarrassing.

Wellbeck ffs hit the ball son

That's so poor

(got both teams to score and a Bayern win)

got my broker liquidizing 10 grand of stock

I only saw the last fifteen minutes but Utd look alright here

Bayern in possession there and every Utd player but Wellbeck was in his own penalty area there. Proper bus parking.

Giggs is playing! He just took a shit corner after being Just Another Body for 44 minutes.

Bayern are shite too.

Bayern have totally dominated this with the exception of about 10mins before the end and look completely comfortable, wtf.

thibault courtois reminds me a little of a young charles de gaulle, although at 6'6 he is an inch taller

http://i.imgur.com/MvdTO5n.jpg

happy enough not to have put the 850 quid on this

That Welbeck miss was horrible to watch, you just knew he was gonna fluff it. Enjoying this - Bayern haven't been good enough yet to really dent Utd's optimism and Old Trafford is getting lairy, but what with Fellaini losing the ball every five minutes and Jones skittering about as if the pitch were an ice rink, there's a wonderful sense of impending disaster about this whole thing.

Comfortable and mostly unthreatening. They should be creating more with such possession.

not watching bayern but that is what guardiola teams do in later stage away games in the champions league, with the exception of the 2-2 vs arsenal in 2010, they mostly just circulate possession endlessly as a defensive stratagem and then try for a late goal once the opposition are shot

barca atleti not that high in quality, one messi pass to iniesta aside, pinto is a disgrace as usual and piqué and costa have both left with injuries, bartra looks fast and quickwitted but diego ribas for atleti is so different to costa that their entire game has had to change

Just got home. Have I missed anything of note?

Not much. Welbeck missed a doozy, but otherwise kinda boring. There's a result here for Utd if they can keep their discipline at the back.

What a header

Moyes in

LIQUID FOOTBALL

Charlton scored against Leeds at *exactly* the same moment as that went in :D