i heard you sacked your european sophisticates and hired english managers
ach this was poss already implicit. let's talk abt rtc's classical education
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:04 (ten years ago) link
imago delenda est
― r|t|c, Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:14 (ten years ago) link
so i'm feminine/neuter plural now am i
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:17 (ten years ago) link
no wait neuter plural would be 'delenda sunt'
made a pig's ear of this counterzing
villas boas is signing with zenit
― fedora the implorer (nakhchivan), Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:20 (ten years ago) link
Boo. Was hoping he'd turn up at Schalke in the summer.
― pandemic, Sunday, 16 March 2014 12:33 (ten years ago) link
Good move for all involved. Now if Spalletti could come the other way...
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Sunday, 16 March 2014 12:38 (ten years ago) link
"I can't apologise for it," he continued, "and I can't say it won't ever happen again. I don't even know why I was angry. It's probably something we worked on in training. I would say if I remembered but when it's not applied it winds me up. Every manager would be the same but I suppose I show it more than others. If we were all the same, then this world would be very boring. I've got to show my emotions. If I didn't, then I'd be acting and there's too many actors in this game. I just want to wear my heart on my sleeve, when I wear them.
fucking moron
― nakhchivan, Monday, 17 March 2014 01:12 (ten years ago) link
that was a terrible game, tottenham playing in sherwood's image and arsenal going along with it, virtually nothing of any quality after 73 seconds
― nakhchivan, Monday, 17 March 2014 01:13 (ten years ago) link
what a great character he thinks he is. he has actually overtaken mark hughes as the most hateful, delusional idiot in the league
― ogmor, Monday, 17 March 2014 08:33 (ten years ago) link
I know lots of top managers use a degree of delusional paranoia to stay insulated from their shortcomings, but it's normally in the service of the team, sherwood is just a poisonous, traitorous individual ready to turn on the next player he can scapegoat
― ogmor, Monday, 17 March 2014 08:37 (ten years ago) link
So well said Ogmor.
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2014 08:59 (ten years ago) link
The conspiratorially minded might wonder whether the easy ride he's being given by the likes of Hytner is because he was their inside man for leaks in the AVB era.
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Monday, 17 March 2014 09:20 (ten years ago) link
He's being given an easy ride because You Can Talk About Tactics All Day Long But It's A Simple Game At Heart with a hefty chunk of Sam Allardici jingoistic bollocks in there as well.
As if Brendan Rodgers has put together the best Liverpool team in forever purely through just putting it in the box and going "just go out there and play".
― Matt DC, Monday, 17 March 2014 11:38 (ten years ago) link
an inordinate amount of football fans/pundits/players still believe that
― pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 March 2014 12:23 (ten years ago) link
Will Levy (as many people assume) get rid of Sherwood?
If so when and on what basis / rationale?
Will Sherwood remain at the club? If so, this will be *disastrous* - it makes a big difference to any new manager, whether TS is still present.
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2014 12:53 (ten years ago) link
I suspect that getting rid of Sherwood in the summer has been the plan all along. He was only made "permanent" because he threatened to walk out if he wasn't, and none of Levy's managerial targets will be available until after the World Cup.
Eagerly anticipating his career at Blackburn, anyway.
― Matt DC, Monday, 17 March 2014 12:56 (ten years ago) link
Do you see a danger of TS staying around, though? He indicated last week that he'd like to be technical director.
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2014 12:58 (ten years ago) link
i think we've established that what Sherwood says he wants is fairly meaningless. i agree it wd be poison to keep him at the club once replaced.
― pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 March 2014 13:09 (ten years ago) link
Agree with matt that sherwood was always in til summer with the further 12 months being no more than a kiss-off.
Didnt think he'd be so disastrous as to require removal before even that but our ability to either hold on to or eke decent fees for the better players in this squad is starting to be seriously compromised
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Monday, 17 March 2014 13:51 (ten years ago) link
But, again -- do you think that even if a new coach comes in, could TS be reinstalled in a backroom role?
This is probably the single biggest danger the club faces at the moment.
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2014 14:31 (ten years ago) link
Sherwood will undermine whichever manager comes in, he really has to go. I keep picturing him as that greasy guy in the second LOTR film who whispers into that king's ear and makes him all prematurely decrepit.
― anonanon, Monday, 17 March 2014 14:38 (ten years ago) link
an excellent comparison, my liege
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 17 March 2014 14:42 (ten years ago) link
Sherwood's 18 month contract always looked to me like "I'll take it if I get a severance package after messing up."
If levy had any long term faith in him it would have been more than 18 months.
― two bunny rabbits on mushrooms singing Proclaimers songs (onimo), Monday, 17 March 2014 14:44 (ten years ago) link
yeah i don't think there's a single chance in a hundred he stays on tbh, im not sure it's even something i'd considered
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Monday, 17 March 2014 14:49 (ten years ago) link
some of Sherwood's press guff may be an acceptance that he's burning his bridges at the club - it's not impossible for a manager to be demoted into a token role if they've been diplomatic whilst in post, but why would any possible candidate for the Spurs job want TS hanging around given his existing public pronouncements?
― pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 March 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link
that hardly explains his doing it tho, i mean im not sure there was danger of it either way. think he's damaged himself badly for other roles this past week or so.
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Monday, 17 March 2014 14:57 (ten years ago) link
still plenty of numpty chairmen who get teary eyed when an English manager gives it a bit of Henry V i reckon
― pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 March 2014 15:03 (ten years ago) link
levy!?!!
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Monday, 17 March 2014 15:18 (ten years ago) link
oh, as an alternative employment
oh yeah, definitely
who're wigan grooming atm, we'll swap
I entirely agree about TS as poison for any new set-upI agree he's made himself look worse and undermined himself even for any other jobsI just worry that he will be kept on in some capacity. The worst thing that could happen.
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link
we don't disagree so much, so!
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Monday, 17 March 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link
I think plenty of people would hire him, his public complaining is just setting the narrative framing his inevitable failure for his future job interviews.
I could see Norwich considering him for example
― anonanon, Monday, 17 March 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link
most worrying thing for me is how sherwood has long been described as very highly rated by levy and spurs as a whole.
― mizzell, Monday, 17 March 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link
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not saying just saying but in his sunday times interview sol campbell attributed the slurs about his sexuality to disenchanted spurs players, you will be invited to guess which fin de siecle spurs dressing room big dogs he might be referring to
― nakhchivan, Monday, 17 March 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link
interesting, Nakh
mizzell, yes, exactly -- worrying. We can't assume that Levy sees TS the way we see him. I mean, if he did, he wouldn't be in post at all.
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link
Levy didn't have a great number of appealing alternative options though, before the World Cup at least.
― Matt DC, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:04 (ten years ago) link
Sherwood had a good reputation internally because the u21s did very well under his watch, though some have said that success owed more to Chris Ramsey
― anonanon, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link
Is Ramsey the geezer that stands nearby on the touchline looking worried?
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:15 (ten years ago) link
he's one of them, yeah
― anonanon, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:18 (ten years ago) link
not using soldado instead of the utterly worthless harry kane when he wasnt going to play soldja boy vs arsenal is almost criminally stupid or craven or nepotistic or whatever
sherwood bears witness to the london fitba mafia pretty well, see rob shep shepherd and neil ashtons encomia, he clearly spends time in the right herts cokehead hostelries, much like joe kinnear who chatted up mile ashley second time round in a gastropub whose name escapes me, fairly safe to imagine that timmy has exchanged knowing glances over tinkling urinal cakes with paul kemmo kemsley and anthony kastrinakis
― nakhchivan, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link
extramarital beeeeejes
― imago, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:25 (ten years ago) link
Has he registered for the Pro Licence yet?
― Chris, Monday, 17 March 2014 19:14 (ten years ago) link
I heard another TS interview tonight.
He had said some players were up to it and some weren't. He was asked which were world-class.
Rather than declining to be so divisive, he started going on about - who else? - Adebayor. (But not Bentaleb!)
All bad enough so far, but the first punchline is, he praised Adebayor for his "world class ATTITUDE."
After he'd finished talking about Adebayor he couldn't really think of any more, but (second punchline) he added: "and the goalie".
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link
Ha
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link
it's worth watching his press conference (not interview) highlights on youtube to witness how dense and cynical he is, he just mumbles incoherently in an affectless, slightly depersonalized way like an educationally subnormal killer on a police interview tape, then occasionally gets baited by a hack and sort of wakes up briefly to give a sarcastic putdown or sententious platitude like i'm a winner, i've always been a winner
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 00:36 (ten years ago) link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10733516/Tottenham-manager-Tim-Sherwood-defends-right-to-sit-in-stands-following-defeat-to-Liverpool-at-Anfield.html
Kinda sad but mostly lol.
― Matt DC, Monday, 31 March 2014 10:56 (ten years ago) link
“They are entitled to have an opinion,” he said. “I have sat up there for the last few games and I get a better view of the game. It’s a learning curve for me because when the team is not going so well they want to see you. But they know me well enough to know I am not shirking any responsibility. I am in it with the team. It’s my responsibility as well as the guys on the pitch. At 2-0 and the game going away and then 3-0, I am going to learn more from my players from sitting up there and having a good look at it, rather than getting involved and maybe getting myself in trouble of the touchline.
“You have seen enough of me ranting and raving, but it’s time for me to start assessing and taking a step back and looking what we need to do for the future, because our performances against teams in the top four and the teams above us have not been good enough, so I learnt a lot there today.”
This quote is a masterpiece, genuinely it is. Only a truly stupid man would set out to defend himself like this.
― Matt DC, Monday, 31 March 2014 10:58 (ten years ago) link
Can't even bring myself to dislike him at this point. This is all on Levy for appointing a spiteful clown with zero management experience to oversee one of the most expensive squads in Europe.
Pretty sure AVB will guide Zenit to the Russian league now, just to rub it in.
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Monday, 31 March 2014 11:20 (ten years ago) link