i wonder has any other manager ever expressed sentiments not totally in keeping with isolated incidents from his last defeat
― unw? j.......n (darraghmac), Friday, 14 March 2014 18:32 (twelve years ago)
i'd imagine they have
Tbf some of those were from the defeat before that.
― two bunny rabbits on mushrooms singing Proclaimers songs (onimo), Friday, 14 March 2014 19:35 (twelve years ago)
Sherwood must have some dynamite blackmail material on David Hytner.
― pandemic, Saturday, 15 March 2014 11:52 (twelve years ago)
On the money, pandemic.
"gloriously unreconstructed and off-message"
Incredible.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 15 March 2014 19:23 (twelve years ago)
Tottenham manager Tim Sherwood wants to see a "blood and thunder" encounter when his side host north London rivals Arsenal on Sunday.
Fifth-placed Spurs are six points behind fourth-placed Arsenal, who are seven points behind Premier League leaders Chelsea.
"I don't think there is much blood and thunder these days - I want it to be more of that," said Sherwood.
"I think that gives us the edge. We are more functional than they are."
― fedora the implorer (nakhchivan), Saturday, 15 March 2014 22:36 (twelve years ago)
red card/serious injury sweepstake
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 15 March 2014 22:39 (twelve years ago)
there's a return of the repressed ambience about tim sherwood, get rid of the technocrat and appoint mediocre expro with no experience, who loses first game at home playing a 442 with two forwards and touchline wingers under orders to 'fill up the box' but thinks he deserves the job fulltime
― A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 December 2013 03:55 (2 months ago)
functional connotes rudimentary, unreconstructed, real rather than anything to do with....functioning like a properly managed team might be expected to
― fedora the implorer (nakhchivan), Saturday, 15 March 2014 22:40 (twelve years ago)
Sherwood's appointment has highlighted so much that is antediluvian about English football discourse.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 15 March 2014 22:58 (twelve years ago)
you wanna be sacking your english managers and hiring european sophisticates, it's the hot thing
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:00 (twelve years ago)
floods were only three weeks ago tbf xp
― r|t|c, Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:03 (twelve years ago)
i heard you sacked your european sophisticates and hired english managers
ach this was poss already implicit. let's talk abt rtc's classical education
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:04 (twelve years ago)
imago delenda est
― r|t|c, Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:14 (twelve years ago)
so i'm feminine/neuter plural now am i
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:17 (twelve years ago)
no wait neuter plural would be 'delenda sunt'
made a pig's ear of this counterzing
villas boas is signing with zenit
― fedora the implorer (nakhchivan), Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:20 (twelve years ago)
Boo. Was hoping he'd turn up at Schalke in the summer.
― pandemic, Sunday, 16 March 2014 12:33 (twelve years ago)
Good move for all involved. Now if Spalletti could come the other way...
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Sunday, 16 March 2014 12:38 (twelve years ago)
"I can't apologise for it," he continued, "and I can't say it won't ever happen again. I don't even know why I was angry. It's probably something we worked on in training. I would say if I remembered but when it's not applied it winds me up. Every manager would be the same but I suppose I show it more than others. If we were all the same, then this world would be very boring. I've got to show my emotions. If I didn't, then I'd be acting and there's too many actors in this game. I just want to wear my heart on my sleeve, when I wear them.
fucking moron
― nakhchivan, Monday, 17 March 2014 01:12 (twelve years ago)
that was a terrible game, tottenham playing in sherwood's image and arsenal going along with it, virtually nothing of any quality after 73 seconds
― nakhchivan, Monday, 17 March 2014 01:13 (twelve years ago)
what a great character he thinks he is. he has actually overtaken mark hughes as the most hateful, delusional idiot in the league
― ogmor, Monday, 17 March 2014 08:33 (twelve years ago)
I know lots of top managers use a degree of delusional paranoia to stay insulated from their shortcomings, but it's normally in the service of the team, sherwood is just a poisonous, traitorous individual ready to turn on the next player he can scapegoat
― ogmor, Monday, 17 March 2014 08:37 (twelve years ago)
So well said Ogmor.
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2014 08:59 (twelve years ago)
The conspiratorially minded might wonder whether the easy ride he's being given by the likes of Hytner is because he was their inside man for leaks in the AVB era.
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Monday, 17 March 2014 09:20 (twelve years ago)
He's being given an easy ride because You Can Talk About Tactics All Day Long But It's A Simple Game At Heart with a hefty chunk of Sam Allardici jingoistic bollocks in there as well.
As if Brendan Rodgers has put together the best Liverpool team in forever purely through just putting it in the box and going "just go out there and play".
― Matt DC, Monday, 17 March 2014 11:38 (twelve years ago)
an inordinate amount of football fans/pundits/players still believe that
― pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 March 2014 12:23 (twelve years ago)
Will Levy (as many people assume) get rid of Sherwood?
If so when and on what basis / rationale?
Will Sherwood remain at the club? If so, this will be *disastrous* - it makes a big difference to any new manager, whether TS is still present.
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2014 12:53 (twelve years ago)
I suspect that getting rid of Sherwood in the summer has been the plan all along. He was only made "permanent" because he threatened to walk out if he wasn't, and none of Levy's managerial targets will be available until after the World Cup.
Eagerly anticipating his career at Blackburn, anyway.
― Matt DC, Monday, 17 March 2014 12:56 (twelve years ago)
Do you see a danger of TS staying around, though? He indicated last week that he'd like to be technical director.
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2014 12:58 (twelve years ago)
i think we've established that what Sherwood says he wants is fairly meaningless. i agree it wd be poison to keep him at the club once replaced.
― pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 March 2014 13:09 (twelve years ago)
Agree with matt that sherwood was always in til summer with the further 12 months being no more than a kiss-off.
Didnt think he'd be so disastrous as to require removal before even that but our ability to either hold on to or eke decent fees for the better players in this squad is starting to be seriously compromised
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Monday, 17 March 2014 13:51 (twelve years ago)
But, again -- do you think that even if a new coach comes in, could TS be reinstalled in a backroom role?
This is probably the single biggest danger the club faces at the moment.
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2014 14:31 (twelve years ago)
Sherwood will undermine whichever manager comes in, he really has to go. I keep picturing him as that greasy guy in the second LOTR film who whispers into that king's ear and makes him all prematurely decrepit.
― anonanon, Monday, 17 March 2014 14:38 (twelve years ago)
an excellent comparison, my liege
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 17 March 2014 14:42 (twelve years ago)
Sherwood's 18 month contract always looked to me like "I'll take it if I get a severance package after messing up."
If levy had any long term faith in him it would have been more than 18 months.
― two bunny rabbits on mushrooms singing Proclaimers songs (onimo), Monday, 17 March 2014 14:44 (twelve years ago)
yeah i don't think there's a single chance in a hundred he stays on tbh, im not sure it's even something i'd considered
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Monday, 17 March 2014 14:49 (twelve years ago)
some of Sherwood's press guff may be an acceptance that he's burning his bridges at the club - it's not impossible for a manager to be demoted into a token role if they've been diplomatic whilst in post, but why would any possible candidate for the Spurs job want TS hanging around given his existing public pronouncements?
― pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 March 2014 14:51 (twelve years ago)
that hardly explains his doing it tho, i mean im not sure there was danger of it either way. think he's damaged himself badly for other roles this past week or so.
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Monday, 17 March 2014 14:57 (twelve years ago)
still plenty of numpty chairmen who get teary eyed when an English manager gives it a bit of Henry V i reckon
― pings can only get wetter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 March 2014 15:03 (twelve years ago)
levy!?!!
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Monday, 17 March 2014 15:18 (twelve years ago)
oh, as an alternative employment
oh yeah, definitely
who're wigan grooming atm, we'll swap
I entirely agree about TS as poison for any new set-upI agree he's made himself look worse and undermined himself even for any other jobsI just worry that he will be kept on in some capacity. The worst thing that could happen.
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2014 15:44 (twelve years ago)
we don't disagree so much, so!
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Monday, 17 March 2014 15:48 (twelve years ago)
I think plenty of people would hire him, his public complaining is just setting the narrative framing his inevitable failure for his future job interviews.
I could see Norwich considering him for example
― anonanon, Monday, 17 March 2014 15:50 (twelve years ago)
most worrying thing for me is how sherwood has long been described as very highly rated by levy and spurs as a whole.
― mizzell, Monday, 17 March 2014 16:01 (twelve years ago)
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not saying just saying but in his sunday times interview sol campbell attributed the slurs about his sexuality to disenchanted spurs players, you will be invited to guess which fin de siecle spurs dressing room big dogs he might be referring to
― nakhchivan, Monday, 17 March 2014 16:13 (twelve years ago)
interesting, Nakh
mizzell, yes, exactly -- worrying. We can't assume that Levy sees TS the way we see him. I mean, if he did, he wouldn't be in post at all.
― the pinefox, Monday, 17 March 2014 16:40 (twelve years ago)
Levy didn't have a great number of appealing alternative options though, before the World Cup at least.
― Matt DC, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:04 (twelve years ago)
Sherwood had a good reputation internally because the u21s did very well under his watch, though some have said that success owed more to Chris Ramsey
― anonanon, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:12 (twelve years ago)