"We've momentum and we can't afford to lose it tbh"- The '13-'14 summer transfer window thread for PL and beyond

can't you see it's the music, he just wants to hear the champs league music. he could hear it six times at arsenal. six times. how can you deprive any footballer of that, you... you monsters

I'd have waited three days to see who they get in the qualifying round, tbh.

the content of the clause is a sort of beckettish imponderable, liverpool will try to delay as much as possible cuz they need someone other than arsenal to buy him and there's a chance that could happen if he is the last remaining caviar blini on the salver amidst the usual late august turds

Rip Arsenal
Rip Suarez
Lol

Yeah I don't usually wish broken legs on people but...

Arsenal are signing the most non-Arsenal player in history
Suarez is making the biggest dick move in his career

Suarez going to Arsenal is proof that God exists. And that God is a nihilist wanker.

t/s arsenal sanctimony vs rawkite voodoo effigies

Nilmar calling me names again.

yeah i noted before that you weren't on rawk, but violence talk is quite rawkish, especially when of the various criminal things he has done over recent years, it takes a dispute over the interpretation of a contractual clause to break the spell

Surely this clause would be public verbatim by now if it existed as suarez claims

Arsenal are signing the most non-Arsenal player in history

― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 23:52 (Yesterday) Bookmark

"history" meaning the nine years of therapy it took for wenger to get over the neville-reyes shoeing

That was a fuckin disgrace tho, and marked the start of his later career as a hatchet cunt

http://www.theguardian.com is quite funny right now

same sort of plaintive expression and plea of a tanzanian farmer whose land has been confiscated or whatever

Touch of jimi about that expression imo

suarez isnt 27 til next year

Gomis to Newcastle seems to have fallen through.

Wonder if Spurs will be after Willian again if Anzhi have put the first team up for sale.

"history" meaning the nine years of therapy it took for wenger to get over the neville-reyes shoeing

Yeah come on, Suarez would have fitted in so well at Vieira-era Arsenal/

Gomis to Liverpool, is that the implication? Wouldn't be a bad shout I don't think, he'd do a job in the epl and tbh we don't have any other focus than that, this year.

@_PaulHayward How about: the new Dr Who puts Suarez in his Tardis and takes him back to be managed by Bill Shankly, just for one day. "Sit down, son..."

Bellend.

Conflicted over Suarez tbh. While I really, really want him to stay, put objectively of course he should be in the CL. If it's as he says and he's already done his 'one more year' then I have some sympathy; he did his bit last season and its not like we're on the brink of getting there.

If it's to be to Arsenal, I kind of like the idea because I get to see Nal more than I see Pool, and lord knows they need a bit of nasty and cheaty about them. And other than the lunatic bid (and LS himself) the deal's being done right afaict. The obvious rub is that if we're to displace any of the top four, it's them.

They need to pay properly though. I dunno why they're not. As has been pointed out, there's absolutely no reason for Liverpool not to drag this out to midnight on deadline day - and even to January tbh, he'll still be available for the CL knockouts.

Aaaaaand Meulensteen has been fired at Anzhi. He really left his mark in those 16 days though, I'm sure.

Why are you conflicted?

- 'Wah you promised me I could leave if we didn't get in the CL' is almost certainly a bullshit line peddled by the agent, it always is. Why would any Chairman make such a promise to their star player?

- Suarez has gone from 'wah they don't understand me in England I want to leave' to 'I just want to go to Arsenal' in a space of like a month.

- Arsenal is a dumb move even for Suarez, given that a year of good behaviour and good performance at Liverpool could see a much better club come in for him.

- No one should 'objectively' been the CL.

- In any case he's not the player Arsenal need, really, if they're going to continue to be as brittle as they have been the past few seasons.

Agree with most of that tbh - boils down to something like 'he's too good for us', which is pretty horrible; now I know how you lot've felt for the past decade+

James McClean going to Wigan, didn't he used to be big news?

suarez clause discussion is v curious. if either party were that sure of it they'd surely have made the wording public by now.

don't agree with you tho matt- clubs have often included clauses they hope won't be activated but the player, in a position of strength, demands and gets. a release clause with a set figure in the event of non qualification for the cl and a bid from a cl club seems very likely indeed.

otoh, a clause that only compels lfc to 'consider' or 'talk about' selling him seems so pointless (from suarez's point of view) as to be totally unlikely. both parties acknowledge a figure of 40m. that accepted, that it exists only as a 'figure beyond which we can still say sod off' seems ridiculous.

This isn't a clause they're talking about though, the "you said I could leave if we didn't qualify for the CL" is a vague "promise" from Liverpool and separate from the contract issue.

The £40m release clause seems to be the bit no one really understands.

Just ftr I don't actually wish a broken leg on him but I do want him out asap. He's easily the most talented player I've ever seen in a red shirt so it's kind of heartbreaking and also a bit embarrassing the way he's been backed to the hilt over the past couple of years despite clearly being a cunt for all to see.

£40m would have been very low for it to be an actual release clause, which makes me think the club are right on that (hasn't the player acknowledged that anyway). Not uncommon to fudge something in a contract so as to get the main agreement reached, in the hope that you never have to use it.

The promise also seems like a nonsense, or at any rate encouraging noises that've been misinterpreted, most likely wilfully. But it's beside the point when the guy's going public like this, bridges have been burnt now.

"£40m would have been very low for it to be an actual release clause"

no it wouldn't! only through bale-bid lenses, which nobody was wearing last year

According to Sky Sports Barca have put out a bid on David Luiz, but it got rejected.

also idk how far back that goes or something, but is suarez so clearly above mcmanaman or fowler or owen or idk alonso, hamann, hyypia, torres?

It is through Torres lenses, Bale's got nothing to do with this. Anyway you set the release clause at an aspirational figure surely, then if someone's mad enough to pay in full, great; if it's lower you get a negotiation.

Would Suarez have agreed to a release clause of £60m, or so, though? He'd have known that there's not much chance of it being activated and Liverpool would still have been able to block any lower bids.

Well I'm 37 and yeah, not saying 'the best' but definitely the most extravagantly leftfield talent. xp to darragh.

No other player leaves your jaw on the floor as often. Owen, for one , wouldn't be fit to lace his boots.

Gerrard maybe

In terms of pure talent I'd say 1. Suarez 2. Barnes 3. Dalglish 4. Beardsley 5. Fowler. Prob litmanen too but he hardly enjoyed his imperial phase with us.

In terms of 'the best' it's a toss-up between Gerrard and dalglish.

Owen, for one , wouldn't be fit to lace his boots.

I know it's been a while since we did this but when Owen was good he was amazing. Both have identical games/goals ratios for Liverpool.

All pace. When he lost a yard he was found out.

not for liveprool iirc!

pace and complete lethality tbfttl

but yeah ok not extravagantly talented, but if that's all then sure add luis garcia and harry kewell in!

Citation needed re kewell.

Dunphy et al

Fellini to Utd looks like it might be achievable

a

I've come to terms with it

squad number 8 1/2 obv

we actually don't a No. 9 at the moment weirdly enough. RVP turned it down