Rangers Have gone into Administration

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I wish I had more hours in each day and more days in the week to devote to laughing at the stupid skint fuckers and the deluded circus surrounding them. Annoyingly my life has picked a crap old week to provide me with other stuff.

Keep up the good work, chaps, will check in where I can.

Before I nick off, another post from another interesting blog:

http://www.scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/what-will-the-administrators-of-rangers-football-club-plc-do/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/14/rangers-administration-scottish-football

Another diamond amidst the dung.

Hearing various today such as:

- Cousin deal is off
- Bartley sent back to Arsenal
- any player out of contract this season is out
- Lafferty is out - he has 98 appearances and 100 triggers a payment to Burnley

disclaimer: I'm the kind of idiot that believes fake Sky Sports tweets about Suarez leaving Liverpool

Rangers fan protest with "WE WANT ANSWERS MR WHYTE" inflatable banner, except the generator failed.

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disclaimer: I'm the kind of idiot that believes fake Sky Sports tweets about Suarez leaving Liverpool

I let my brother believe that one for a bit last night :)

Four hour train journey ahead later today, shall do some seriously reading if 3G works in the arse end of nowhere up a hill.

I might even learn to use adjectives correctly.

John Hartson mincing his words today in his Sun column

A BLOKE lives in a flat above a shop but has taken the finance out on a new Porsche.
The geezer thinks that everyone believes he's got money because of the flash motor he drives.
What he doesn't realise is that he'd be much better off living in a semi-detached and having the keys to a Corsa.
That's Rangers.
A club with an ego they simply cannot sustain. A shambles. An embarrassment. A complete and utter mess.

Ladies and gentlemen, Mr Derek Johnstone.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/opinion/rangers-in-turmoil-for-the-first-time-i-am-embarrassed-to-be-a-rangers-man-says-derek-johnstone.16750461

Not ashamed or embarrassed when he was part of a team who had to be presented with a trophy behind closed doors that they weren't allowed to defend. Not when he was part of a team with a sectarian employment policy. Not when the fans were rioting in Manchester or when they were banned from European away games for sectarian singing.

Well said, big man! (xp)

Fuck you, big man!

Anyone see that Rangers fan who was interviewed on the BBC news and was so overcome with emotion he couldn't finish his sentence? That has got to be on YouTube, what a fucking diddy, priceless

Classic exchange on Radio 5 this morning.

Nicky Campbell: "is it fair to say that this is, in fact, the blackest day in Rangers' history?"

Rangers Dude Whose Name I Didn't Catch: "to be honest Nicky, you comparing this to 66 people losing their lives is a travesty and I think you should apologise."

NC: "ummmm... Sorry."

Yes, somebody said something similar on the news last night, possibly Channel 4, and I immediately thought, well, there is the Ibrox Disaster

SPL table since 6th November 2011

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Uh, numbers don't add up there

... forgot the 10 point deduction!

St. Mirren could do with winning some games

St Mirren had a couple of decent results against Rangers - if Rangers fold and games against them are wiped, they'll come off worst.

only if there's still relegation to allow rangers back in

so yeah, you're right...

Season 1985-86: The Scottish Premier Division was won on goal difference. Only 6 points separated the top four. Rangers finished a distant fifth. Aberdeen won both cups. Scotland reached their fourth straight World Cup. Player of the year awards were all won by Hearts and Dundee United players.

Very few games were televised due to a dispute with the TV companies.

Scottish football needs what now?

Oh, and Accies won the first division

but there was no tv money in other countries. There is now, so European success wont happen unless every league goes back to the old days.

still, i hope onimo is right, but its not that simple

anyway rangers will exist in some form, probably still in SPL and nothing will change. except they will be debt free? cheating cunts.

what is going to happen to ibrox

What TV money in what countries are you referring to? Should Scotland be achieving TV income parity with Spain, England, Germany or Denmark? Maybe some acceptance among all clubs about the actual size of our country and its TV market would be a good thing?

A repeat of the '86 season would be TV gold.

what is going to happen to ibrox

Tesco

Even without relegation, they might end up a place or so worse off, which affects their income at the end of the season.

Where are you getting this conviction that Rangers will get back into the SPL from? Hearing some chatter today that Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen and Dundee United are against, and expect that ICT will be as well (Celtic definitely are). The end game might be complete liquidation, btw, so it might not even be an issue.

There's fuck all TV money here *now*, btw, in relative terms. We're not looking at Motherwell suddenly going on to win the Europa League or anything, we're looking at a model where clubs can regularly qualify for both European tournaments and get some extra revenue which they can use to improve their squads to increase chances of qualifying again, etc etc. And with time they'll get better along the way. Playing in a league where you're not hamstrung by having to try and compete with a bunch of corrupt fraudsters taking money out of my pocket to fuck over my team has GOT to be better.

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And, as I was pointing out to aldo at the weekend, if we can pick up a Paddy McCourt or an Emilio Izaguirre or a Mark Wilson, so can anyone else. These players didn't come with huge expectations and massive pricetags. It's not like there's a complete dearth of talent in the SPL, Dundee Utd in particular just now are unearthing gems that might be tempted to stay longer in a league that isn't completely corrupt.

I know what you're saying. I'm just not sure it will improve things here. Celtic will just win every year rather than celtic and rangers taking turns to win everything. But lets not jump the gun, lets see what happens to Rangers first.

xp

those players will want to head to a better standard of league/one that pays more money. Its already not a level playing field, it will be even less of one if Rangers go.

I agree with huge chunks of this

An Aberdeen fan's view:

The great ‘Scottish football needs Rangers’ lie
The only thing that has tainted this truly wonderful day for me has been the endless steam of pundits and posters all across the media, patronisingly telling us that we’d all suffer without Rangers.

Their main arguments seem to be that

a ) we need their gate money twice a season
b ) no-one will be interested in Scottish Football without them
c ) Our co-efficient will be damaged by not having them in Europe
d ) Our TV deal will suffer

Lets pick these arguments apart one at a time and put this myth to bed once and for all -

a ) Gate Money: Using ourselves as an example, when the scum are in town we normally get 17k going up to 18-19k if we’re playing decent.
Normally we get about 9k going up to 11-12k if we’re playing decent. Now given that if they vanished we’d still be playing someone instead of rangers, we can assume that we would get our average crowd. So right now with their two ‘visits’ a year, their existence seems to provide us with around 16,000 paying customers per season.

That’s less that 1000 punters for each home game of the year, or one decent European night, or our share of a cup semi final. without their cheating, scummy presence, the league would only get more competitive, there would be more cup finals and european places up for grabs, and therefore more european nights in following seasons.

Every team in the league would improve their numbers, and to suggest we couldn’t make up 16k over a season is ridiculous.

b ) Interest in the Scottish game: This one is brilliant. Sorry, but there’s not exactly a scramble of Japanese Tourists and Brazilian TV companies tearing the SPL doors down right now is there, so I fail to see how are global impact could be less significant than it is at present. In fact, you never know, but a competitive set up where a few different teams actually win stuff on a regular basis, might actually cause a little more interest around the world.

Also, I know one particular country where interest in our game is currently at an all time low. A country that used to love scottish football but that has been gradually turned off it by the antics of the bigot brothers. A country that is actually quite important when your measuring levels of Interest in Scottish football. A country that might actually come back to the scottish game if it were tighter, fairer, and more competitive. Yep you’ve guessed it, Scotland. Without rangers, we’d like our game a lot more, and that might be just about all the ‘global interest’ that we need.

c ) The co-efficient. A vastly overblown argument. Aside from the fact that they’ve hardly been doing our standing in Europe any favours at all recently, this is still a non starter. All reasonably sized countries in Europe get the chance for 3 – 4 of their top clubs to represent them in some European competition that they will find challenging and financially beneficial should they progress in it. It never really changes that much, and it never will. Any minor changes to our co-efficient only ever seemed to do the job of gifting both sets of minks extra Champions League spots, so that they can make more money and make the league yet more uncompetitive.

d ) TV money: Why would fewer people want to watch an open, exciting competitive league than the stale predictable, biased drivel we face now? People might argue that the tims would win it every year. But I don’t believe it for a second. “two team” leagues are quite common throughout the world. One team leagues practically non-existent. The tims didn’t win everything the last time the h*ns were pish, we made sure of that. A we would again.

The Lie has been told too often, but it’s still a lie. Lets start getting the truth heard once in a while. It’s very simple -

Scottish Football – Glasgow Rangers = A Better Place

do you think this will make the actual celtic team worse, given that they don't have the cash to compete in Europe anyway and now they should be more comfortable domestically?

oh (xp) I see that the thinking isn't that the league will necessarily be easier for celtic.

i think it will make things much easier for Celtic re winning things, but its got to hurt them eventually quality wise - esp in Europe

but then again that's not a concern of mine I guess. As an Accies fan i'd be gladly rid of Rangers (and sorry guys, but that other team too)

Celtic are worse now than they were ten years ago. We are cutting our cloth as the finances of football get tighter, just as everyone else in Scotland is (or at least should be) doing. We have shown that this strategy can still produce good footballers and attractive football. Whether that can transfer to a modicum of European success remains to be seen - but it's not like we were ever that good even in MON's big spending years, one failed UEFA Cup final and two failed CL Groups.

Not really, no. I think they'll continue to TRY to improve, bear in mind we're only a couple of years into a massive rebuilding strategy. We're not *that* comfortable domestically as it is (we do occasionally do stupid things like losing to teams at the arse end of the league and going out of the cup to lower league sides), and I'd like to hope that the league would get even more competitive as other teams have their eye on the prize of Europe.

those players will want to head to a better standard of league/one that pays more money. Its already not a level playing field, it will be even less of one if Rangers go.

Why do players play here at all, ffs? Let's shut the whole fucking thing down, eh? At least you're getting a shout at second place and CL qualifiers now? That looks more competitive in my book. The race for second already looks a whole lot more exciting than it was yesterday.

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(pfunkboy, REALLY? You'd rather lose the only marketable assets in the league and the vast majority of match-attending punters in your quest for this mystery TV fortune?)

why not? you're happy at losing one.
Losing Celtic would take us another place closer to CL wouldn't it? (lols at the thought of Accies ever getting near CL)

then again i dont really wish administration on anyone. My own club very nearly entered it and would have ceased to exist.
still. im gonna lol at Rangers now they have done.

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l-r pfunk, Wayne

i don't have a long face

why not? You'd be in a system free of financial doping for a start. Rangers have created this monster by defrauding the taxpayer and creating a false impression of the league, denying crucial revenue to other clubs and stunting their growth into the bargain. Celtic have done none of these things, so fuck knows why you want us out too.

SPL Chief Neil Doncaster speaking on 27th January about clubs gaining an unfair advantage by not paying their PAYE. What did he know?

http://soundcloud.com/celticresearch/neil-doncaster-competitive/s-vbVL6

ok
even leaving out all the sectarian baggage that comes with certain section of rangers & celtic.

The demise of the other most dominant team would lead to a closer league. Celtic can get 60,000 punters at each home game when successful, right? That's a huge advantage over all the other clubs. With that gone you have a bunch of clubs of a similar size competing for the SPL title, therefore a more competitive league with excitement.

but like i said, i wouldn't actually wish administration or liquidation on any club, not even Motherwell or Airdrie.

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Celtic haven't regularly had 60,000 at home games for about five years. Average gate last season was around 45,000, I think.

Still about 30-35,000 more than the other SPL teams.

Yup. If Celtic end up, as many argue, losing punters because we don't have a Rangers to hate, and there aren't any Rangers buses leaving Dundee, Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Falkirk, Greenock, etc. then maybe that gap will reduce.

That said, I don't think Celtic need apologise for having the most supporters.

yeah a huge advantage.
xp

no, they shouldn't. but if you argue you want a more competitive league, then removing the old firm gives you that is all im saying.