id guess he needs to improve his instinct for finding space before playing as a goalscoring attacking mid/support striker 'on the reg' cuz it gets so much more congested playing there
but there aren't many players who have played that position in that way.....someone like julio baptista maybe...kaká had both the full-throttle athleticism and more classical #10 playmaking/dribbling skills
yaya touré can be played there quite effectively for 60-70mins before he stops being able to run
i thought ménez could be developed into that role but he seems to be more of a winger now
― The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:53 (fourteen years ago)
i hope it doesnt happen. but if it does, what happens to vdv? or are they going to play w/ 2 #10s?
― I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 14:58 (fourteen years ago)
Pretty sure the "fluidity" of the 3 in Tottenham's current 4-2-3-1 is Redknapp trying to circumvent a VDV hissy-fit about being played on the right.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:00 (fourteen years ago)
idk but everything changes pretty quickly, just thinking in the longer term
the chances of him playing in a tottenham team managed by redknapp with rafael van der vaart in 2013 = ???
― The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:02 (fourteen years ago)
5%
vdv, bale, lennon and modders will all still be there tho imo
― I am Newgod (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:08 (fourteen years ago)
not even lennon tbh
― DeLonge and Winding Refn (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
sayin
― i'd love to but i'm on break (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 13:05 (fourteen years ago)
that he's the best british player since scholes?
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:19 (fourteen years ago)
when you say 'since'
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:21 (fourteen years ago)
since, in time
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:23 (fourteen years ago)
cuz scholes died in july 2011
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:24 (fourteen years ago)
if you play "outstanding" backwards it says 'paul is dead i killed him'
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:26 (fourteen years ago)
was trying to think of an epl player that deserved european xi acknowledgement- and i'm not necessarily saying bale does- came up with vidic, imo, and van persie if it's a calendar year thing.
that it?
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:27 (fourteen years ago)
dont think id include any
vidic maybe
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:30 (fourteen years ago)
kompany? rvp?
― Number None, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:36 (fourteen years ago)
oh wait you said van persie
silva/piqué, messi
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:36 (fourteen years ago)
pique not even as good as jonny evans iirc
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:37 (fourteen years ago)
that wasn't it at all
― Number None, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:38 (fourteen years ago)
u were teamgerard in 2k7?
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:39 (fourteen years ago)
would take vidic over one of those guys in a rl centre back pairing, just to have the killer/player balance right
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:40 (fourteen years ago)
id try to disprove that old adage
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:42 (fourteen years ago)
It's like people think Barcelona graduate Pique would have been perfectly happy to have served as a backup to Ferdinand and Vidic back then
― Number None, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:43 (fourteen years ago)
Fergie so stupid
ppl think that? even fitba fans?
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:44 (fourteen years ago)
lol cmon don't turn into of of 'them' you support a title winning club you don't ever reaally get to strop imo
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:45 (fourteen years ago)
piqué was one of the best dmids in spain at 20 y/o playing for zaragoza
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:46 (fourteen years ago)
hmmm, Fergie so stupid?
― Number None, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:47 (fourteen years ago)
wth is anyone even arguing here
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:51 (fourteen years ago)
maybe Pique was the solution to Utd's midfield problems
― Number None, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:52 (fourteen years ago)
oh
well
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:53 (fourteen years ago)
this is turnign into my kind of discussion
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:53 (fourteen years ago)
u need that modric kid in zagreb imo
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:54 (fourteen years ago)
Ballack was my dream signing back in the day
― Number None, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:55 (fourteen years ago)
ballack was one of the ones, alright
before ballack, ronaldinho, tho tbf the kid you got instead turned out ok
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:00 (fourteen years ago)
It's Schweinsteiger now btw
― Number None, Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:01 (fourteen years ago)
hmmm
not sandro, modric no?
iiinteresting
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:03 (fourteen years ago)
i'm sure they're both very nice but this is dream territory
― Number None, Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:05 (fourteen years ago)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2672360421_698d176bf4.jpg
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:08 (fourteen years ago)
look it's the Schweinsteigers arriving in sunny Manchesterhttp://www.whoateallthepies.tv/81153539.jpg
― Number None, Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:14 (fourteen years ago)
now i'm dreaming
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:15 (fourteen years ago)
Piqué's been avowedly poor this season, hasn't he? Even read that Pep thought he needed to be dropped early on because that dangerous 'won everything already' contentment/lack of motivation was seeping into the side through him. I thought he could've closed down CRon on the first goal tonight too.
Otherwise let me reiterate 'wth is anyone even arguing here', why did this thread explode tonight? Also, jesus christ at Mme Schweini.
― boxall, Thursday, 19 January 2012 01:58 (fourteen years ago)
right now he is better at lw than am
for a kid who is usually described as modest and relatively unflashy, he does seem to be developing a more selfish and wilful tendency, so i can still see him playing centrally in the longer term
the best british players (apart from the actual best ie scholes) do tend to conform a force-of-nature type, gerrard is the best example and rooney when he is indulged, oxlade chamberlain is another of those players who 'could play anywhere' which usually means 'will play everywhere'
wenger has spoken of him as a future midfielder
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 21:03 (fourteen years ago)
i don't know how useful he could be centrally vs on the wing
i know it's a prestige thing that centre is the place to be, but he was never exactly starved on the wing.
on the right, he's not as good, because while he can cut inside or go round on the left to equal effect while only using his left, his right isn't good enough to give him two options when he plays on that wing.
his drive could be useful in the centre a la gerrard, i guess, but then gerrard brings a lot more physical relish to that position also, and a bit more 'engine room' style rather than bale's swashbuckle.
arry all but aadmitted today it's so he can play vdv and bale together, but tbh i'd rather vdv adebayor up front and leave the rw empty than lose the BAE/Bale/Modric axis of awesome from the left in this freeform system
― less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:13 (fourteen years ago)
yeah he doesnt have the same aggresiveness of gerrard or rooney but hes more athletic than those as well
i sort of feel it's inevitable that he ends up more centrally, or has to be forced to stay wide once he develops his sense of entitlement and irrepressible belief in his own irrepressibility
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:22 (fourteen years ago)
he's developed that and little else this season imo
― less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:36 (fourteen years ago)
tho if arry would like to experiment with three at the back against teams where we dominate posession but can't get nearer that thirty yards, BAE/Walker would be perfect wingbacks that could theoretically let Bale/Vdv operate as more inside forwards with a more implicit licence to cut in
― less of the same (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:38 (fourteen years ago)
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― Number None, Sunday, 25 March 2012 05:33 (fourteen years ago)
v pleased with yrself huh
― less of the same (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 March 2012 10:34 (fourteen years ago)
you don't even know how drunk i was
― Number None, Sunday, 25 March 2012 12:15 (fourteen years ago)