Tragic Football Stories - Let us Kick Around the misshapen Jabulani that is English football right here

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It's not practised at Spurs very often any more, but Lennon strikes me as a straight 4-4-2 kinda winger, not the kind that can adapt very well to being the right side of a front three. It's more likely to be Adam Johnson playing there in future.

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

oh god yeah I forgot him, he has ability even if his movement might not be quite there

acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

Also he's left-footed but whatever.

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

that isn't so much an issue, viz. every decent european side currently playing

acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:27 (fifteen years ago)

he's a left footer, but his main strength is shooting/crossing with inswing on that foot, so right side it is

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

lampard can play in the middle for england until the next euros imo, he's more needed than everyone thinks, but he needs good players around him - lampard, wilshere, huddlestone, hargreaves/rodwell/cattermole axis of short-passing splendour

acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

dunno that lampard's short passing game is anything like as good as his long cunting game tbph

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

thread needs pete w right now - lampard's short passing game is pretty good tbpfh

acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

he just hasn't had people to short-pass to

acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

perhaps lee cattermole will become the english essien

acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

pf, daswo i'm tawkinbaaaht

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

dunno, even based on chelsea i don't think pass and move is his thing. he got mad defence-unlocking passes, no doubt, but not sure he's really a give-and-go type

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

he's a kinda deep-lying give-and-go initiator maybe

hmm

scholes plz be 25 again

acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)

hargreaves/rodwell/cattermole axis of short-passing splendour

nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 00:50 (fifteen years ago)

you

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 00:51 (fifteen years ago)

it's easy to snipe from the sidelines

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 00:53 (fifteen years ago)

i mean look at rafa............

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 00:53 (fifteen years ago)

nothing against hargreavres and rodwell btw

cattermole is just a cunt

nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 00:59 (fifteen years ago)

hargreaves snapped in half trying to pick up his injury file, let's be real

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:01 (fifteen years ago)

tragic story of english football is the first red card of season book....first half dozen names are usually all english

nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:02 (fifteen years ago)

is a possibility, ideally we'd have a good long-term replacement for hargreaves (rodwell? cattermole? lol)

dude i provided the lol caveat

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:05 (fifteen years ago)

rodwell is proper player

nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:07 (fifteen years ago)

lol applied only to cattermole, do the rhetorical math

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:08 (fifteen years ago)

well then the brackets shouldn't have been around both of em iirc

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:10 (fifteen years ago)

oh i understood

nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:10 (fifteen years ago)

(nakhchivan + darraghmac) / (cattermole - rodwell) = scorchedearth.jpg

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:11 (fifteen years ago)

(Rodwell, Cattermole)lol = lol rodwell, lol cattermole

what you wanted is

rodwell, (cattermole, lol)

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:12 (fifteen years ago)

dammit beaten to the xp by my tardy factorisation, mrs quigley had me well spotted for a dunce in second year i fear

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:13 (fifteen years ago)

no, (rodwell + cattermole x lol) = rodwell + catterlol (soz for the a hoy hoy)

(rodwell + cattermole) x lol = england for the next 6 years

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:14 (fifteen years ago)

the serial question mark suggests the following clause would refer to last item only, otherwise x, x? would be used

nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:16 (fifteen years ago)

this henderson kid tho

nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:16 (fifteen years ago)

proper player or new gareth barry/?

nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:17 (fifteen years ago)

(henderson + cattermole) x (chelsea - lampard) = ?!

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:17 (fifteen years ago)

henderson's assist for gyan when he tricked his way down the wing and put in a brilliant cross is a surefire sign for me that using him as anything but a roaming attacking midfielder would be a terrible waste, he is nothing like Barry for he has close control, pace and lampardian burst boxwards

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:19 (fifteen years ago)

most of all, his mentality is to create goalscoring chances and not 'contain' - horribly misused vs france

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:19 (fifteen years ago)

against chelsea he defended by using possession positively and forcing chelsea out of shape

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:19 (fifteen years ago)

'dynamism'

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:20 (fifteen years ago)

'lampardian burst' surely a stomach wall malady

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:21 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i reckon henderson's gonna be better than barry but that's not saying much

nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:24 (fifteen years ago)

england the natural home of roaming attacking midfielders iirc

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:24 (fifteen years ago)

what could possibly go wrong there

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:25 (fifteen years ago)

the trick is turning them into roaming space-filling diffusions of mercury - when an englishman roams, it tends to be with rhinocerine charges

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:25 (fifteen years ago)

yeah le tiss of the 18 caps was a fucking lumpfoot of the highest order it's troo it's troo

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:28 (fifteen years ago)

you and your kin all know that he is a whopping great silken-toed anomaly

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:29 (fifteen years ago)

first dropped points and it would be off with the luxury player's head, and barry would be grafted back in. cos he grafts, the boy. making basic shit look difficult = grafting in england international midfieldery parlance.

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:29 (fifteen years ago)

le tiss, gazza (ok, utilised correctly for a change, but then remember that when this was the case ye were actually pretty fukn good), scholes, ????

who's gonna line up for that 'stick him on the left, e's a good ployer e'll work it out' role?

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:30 (fifteen years ago)

you make a good point, but barry is not an attacking mf so you have strayed off-topic like a gerrard punt

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:31 (fifteen years ago)

prob add j cole, maybe lampard to the end of that list actually. criminally undervalued in successive england teams that needed more honest effort and a little less ball control.

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:31 (fifteen years ago)

also, jason wilcox obv

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:31 (fifteen years ago)

haha am now wondering whether paul merson could have been all that

acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:32 (fifteen years ago)


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