ok well i've previously included them both in mooted england teams
fast players with great touch and adaptability would be nice. lennon needs to move to a club where 4-4-2 is not practiced
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:22 (fifteen years ago)
lennon needs to move to liverpool
haaaa
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)
It's not practised at Spurs very often any more, but Lennon strikes me as a straight 4-4-2 kinda winger, not the kind that can adapt very well to being the right side of a front three. It's more likely to be Adam Johnson playing there in future.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)
oh god yeah I forgot him, he has ability even if his movement might not be quite there
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)
Also he's left-footed but whatever.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)
that isn't so much an issue, viz. every decent european side currently playing
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:27 (fifteen years ago)
he's a left footer, but his main strength is shooting/crossing with inswing on that foot, so right side it is
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)
lampard can play in the middle for england until the next euros imo, he's more needed than everyone thinks, but he needs good players around him - lampard, wilshere, huddlestone, hargreaves/rodwell/cattermole axis of short-passing splendour
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)
dunno that lampard's short passing game is anything like as good as his long cunting game tbph
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)
thread needs pete w right now - lampard's short passing game is pretty good tbpfh
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)
he just hasn't had people to short-pass to
perhaps lee cattermole will become the english essien
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)
pf, daswo i'm tawkinbaaaht
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)
dunno, even based on chelsea i don't think pass and move is his thing. he got mad defence-unlocking passes, no doubt, but not sure he's really a give-and-go type
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)
he's a kinda deep-lying give-and-go initiator maybe
hmm
scholes plz be 25 again
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)
hargreaves/rodwell/cattermole axis of short-passing splendour
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 00:50 (fifteen years ago)
you
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 00:51 (fifteen years ago)
it's easy to snipe from the sidelines
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 00:53 (fifteen years ago)
i mean look at rafa............
nothing against hargreavres and rodwell btw
cattermole is just a cunt
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 00:59 (fifteen years ago)
hargreaves snapped in half trying to pick up his injury file, let's be real
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:01 (fifteen years ago)
tragic story of english football is the first red card of season book....first half dozen names are usually all english
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:02 (fifteen years ago)
is a possibility, ideally we'd have a good long-term replacement for hargreaves (rodwell? cattermole? lol)
dude i provided the lol caveat
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:05 (fifteen years ago)
rodwell is proper player
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:07 (fifteen years ago)
lol applied only to cattermole, do the rhetorical math
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:08 (fifteen years ago)
well then the brackets shouldn't have been around both of em iirc
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:10 (fifteen years ago)
oh i understood
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:10 (fifteen years ago)
(nakhchivan + darraghmac) / (cattermole - rodwell) = scorchedearth.jpg
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:11 (fifteen years ago)
(Rodwell, Cattermole)lol = lol rodwell, lol cattermole
what you wanted is
rodwell, (cattermole, lol)
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:12 (fifteen years ago)
dammit beaten to the xp by my tardy factorisation, mrs quigley had me well spotted for a dunce in second year i fear
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:13 (fifteen years ago)
no, (rodwell + cattermole x lol) = rodwell + catterlol (soz for the a hoy hoy)
(rodwell + cattermole) x lol = england for the next 6 years
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:14 (fifteen years ago)
the serial question mark suggests the following clause would refer to last item only, otherwise x, x? would be used
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:16 (fifteen years ago)
this henderson kid tho
proper player or new gareth barry/?
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:17 (fifteen years ago)
(henderson + cattermole) x (chelsea - lampard) = ?!
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:17 (fifteen years ago)
henderson's assist for gyan when he tricked his way down the wing and put in a brilliant cross is a surefire sign for me that using him as anything but a roaming attacking midfielder would be a terrible waste, he is nothing like Barry for he has close control, pace and lampardian burst boxwards
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:19 (fifteen years ago)
most of all, his mentality is to create goalscoring chances and not 'contain' - horribly misused vs france
against chelsea he defended by using possession positively and forcing chelsea out of shape
'dynamism'
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:20 (fifteen years ago)
'lampardian burst' surely a stomach wall malady
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:21 (fifteen years ago)
yeah i reckon henderson's gonna be better than barry but that's not saying much
― nakhchivan, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:24 (fifteen years ago)
england the natural home of roaming attacking midfielders iirc
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:24 (fifteen years ago)
what could possibly go wrong there
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:25 (fifteen years ago)
the trick is turning them into roaming space-filling diffusions of mercury - when an englishman roams, it tends to be with rhinocerine charges
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:25 (fifteen years ago)
yeah le tiss of the 18 caps was a fucking lumpfoot of the highest order it's troo it's troo
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:28 (fifteen years ago)
you and your kin all know that he is a whopping great silken-toed anomaly
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:29 (fifteen years ago)
first dropped points and it would be off with the luxury player's head, and barry would be grafted back in. cos he grafts, the boy. making basic shit look difficult = grafting in england international midfieldery parlance.
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:29 (fifteen years ago)
le tiss, gazza (ok, utilised correctly for a change, but then remember that when this was the case ye were actually pretty fukn good), scholes, ????
who's gonna line up for that 'stick him on the left, e's a good ployer e'll work it out' role?
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:30 (fifteen years ago)
you make a good point, but barry is not an attacking mf so you have strayed off-topic like a gerrard punt
― acoleuthic, Friday, 19 November 2010 01:31 (fifteen years ago)
prob add j cole, maybe lampard to the end of that list actually. criminally undervalued in successive england teams that needed more honest effort and a little less ball control.
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 19 November 2010 01:31 (fifteen years ago)