ITT: LEO 'KING' MESSI

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these names are all good but w/e

c ronaldo got close when messi had injuries/barca were in their late-rijkaard slump

that's it

nakhchivan, Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link

forgetting bentdner, obviously

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link

only players that look like they are gonna be in touching distance in the next five years, unless some absolute gem comes out the woodwork, are cesc, rooney and cr9?

I'd place Ribery and possibly Robben (despite his advancing years) in the list at touching distance. Maybe they don't stand out as much in a team full of effective team players.

Worth noting that apart from Cesc, anyone else on the list is around four years (i.e. a round of international tournaments) older than Messi.

nasri like the wolf (onimo), Thursday, 8 April 2010 09:11 (fourteen years ago) link

didn't think rooney/c ronaldo were that old?

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 April 2010 09:22 (fourteen years ago) link

25 to Messi's 22. 3 is around 4 :)

nasri like the wolf (onimo), Thursday, 8 April 2010 09:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Wait Rooney's only 24, though he was 40.

nasri like the wolf (onimo), Thursday, 8 April 2010 09:24 (fourteen years ago) link

thought*

nasri like the wolf (onimo), Thursday, 8 April 2010 09:24 (fourteen years ago) link

ah this is depressing. dumb fat dude 5 years younger than me is a billionaire

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 April 2010 09:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Could this be as good as it gets for Messi?

Times article pointing out that the top players are ever-younger nowadays. LJ will be delighted. Though the top players were supposed to be ever-taller and ever-stronger too, and Messi's seen those chumps off.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 April 2010 10:29 (fourteen years ago) link

it's only a matter of time before the world's best player is running through behemoth defender's legs.

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 April 2010 10:48 (fourteen years ago) link

tsk people getting paid for this pap ok

so players only peak under 25 like... henry? nope. dinho? nope. stoichkov and romario? nope. zidane? again, nope. the likes of gourcuff, torres, ribery and etc. etc. etc. all look like they are going to disprove this stupid fucking article wrong and really peak out as terrific players between 25-30.

should have become a football journalist considering how good at talking shit without the knowledge to back it up.

he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 April 2010 10:50 (fourteen years ago) link

no it's shit, has far more to do with generation of players involved, also zidane wd have got ballon d'or at 34 if it weren't for trezemiss

nakhchivan, Thursday, 8 April 2010 10:51 (fourteen years ago) link

when did dinho peak? surely under the age of 25?

stoichkov/romario far back enough to not be relevant imo, if we're talking about a trend.

peak ages different for different positions, isn't that the considered opinion?

goalies - 30+, quick strikers prob < 27, etc

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 April 2010 10:54 (fourteen years ago) link

AWWWW

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 8 April 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link

why is he hanging out with a bunch of kids?

aarrissi-a-roni, Thursday, 8 April 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Looks like guy in bottom right hand corner has just stolen Messi's head from the Barcelona branch of Madame Tussauds

Is that your Ayrshire bacon? (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

damn he's really lost a lot of weight since the pic with the kids was taken

fuck in rainbows, after it rains (dyao), Thursday, 8 April 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

lol at piqué there on the top left.

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 8 April 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

fabregas had a period of not being weird looking for a few years but that pic just proves that the past year has been a stunning return to form for the dude

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 April 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

rip the weird mullet thing 04/05 never forget

he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 April 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

maradona is going to have messi killed, isn't he?

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Friday, 9 April 2010 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link

No, he loves him

Is that your Ayrshire bacon? (Tom D.), Friday, 9 April 2010 10:31 (fourteen years ago) link

77% of murderers are lovers

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Friday, 9 April 2010 10:32 (fourteen years ago) link

messi kind of looks like dustin hoffman

― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:27 PM (2 seconds ago) Bookmark

fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Saturday, 10 April 2010 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Brazilian legend Pele, often considered the best player in football history, has offered a retort to those hailing Barcelona forward Lionel Messi as the greatest star to have played the game. The three-time World Cup winner says people should only start drawing comparisons when Messi has equalled his goal tally of over 1,000 career goals. The Argentine took his senior career tally to 133 goals, which includes 42 this season for club and country, with a goal against Real Madrid on Saturday.

Years Team Apps† (Gls)†
1956–1974 Santos 438 (474 [1][2][3][4])
1975–1977 New York Cosmos 64 (37[5])
Total 666 (626)
National team
1957–1971 Brazil 92 (77)

hi dere mr. plz try and score 40+ against modern shawcross defences instead of the lame old amerikkkan shit and then shut the hell up.

he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:56 (fourteen years ago) link

No matter how I try, I can't get that to add up to 1,000

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 08:33 (fourteen years ago) link

well yes the 1000 supposedly also adds in like youth football and exhibition matches. now considering bojan supposedly "played for Barcelona's youth teams or cantera from 1999 to 2006, scoring over 500 goals.[2]" and Cesc and Pique left that yut team w/ Messi cos they were bored winning 8-0 each game and wanted to challange themselves...

he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 08:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Not sure what I think of this new, arrogant Pele - any other time I hear from the dude he's making nice and predicting Slovakia or Honduras to win the world cup

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 08:54 (fourteen years ago) link

If there's such a thing as a 'footballing genius' then Pele was it but he should stfu with this 1000 goals shit when something like 400 of them were in friendlies. His official total is 643 - which is impressive enough!

i would just like to point out that i have been antimony on this thread (onimo), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 09:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Always taken it on trust that Pele was as good as the footage I've seen of Cruyff, Maradona, Best, but is there much more out there than the world cup videos I've got? Because on the evidecne of my 'MOTD 1960's, 70's & 80's' he was no Peter Osgood.

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 09:31 (fourteen years ago) link

He could dribble at speed, pass well, demon shot, a few tricks and exceptional heading. Amazing scoring record for Brazil (77 goals in 92 games inc a World Cup hat trick at the age of 17). He probably started all this boring athletic yada yada stuff that Messi is supposedly the antithesis of.

You're right though, he's no Peter Osgood.

i would just like to point out that i have been antimony on this thread (onimo), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 09:41 (fourteen years ago) link

never played in the premiership iirc

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 09:43 (fourteen years ago) link

It's probably my own fault that you guys don't even read my posts anymore, isn't it?

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 09:47 (fourteen years ago) link

jol out?

he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 09:49 (fourteen years ago) link

lol I missed the motd bit Darragh :)

i would just like to point out that i have been antimony on this thread (onimo), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 09:50 (fourteen years ago) link

tell you what tho guys Osgood, G Francis and J Giles- amazing

boxset nicked by by ex-future-father-in-law, unfortunately.

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 10:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Osgood couldn't cut it in the NASL.

i would just like to point out that i have been antimony on this thread (onimo), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 10:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, that's another angle I suppose

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 10:19 (fourteen years ago) link

romario scored a 1000 iirc but i haven't heard pele calling him best player through all time either

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 11:46 (fourteen years ago) link

pele's 1000+ is career 'first-class' goals, so I don't think that youth team is included actually.

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 11:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Pele's 1,000th was a penalty, which just devalues the whole thing

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 11:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Dedicated to the poor, even worse.

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 11:58 (fourteen years ago) link

romario's thousand is at least as padded at pele's with exhibition matches, charity matches, games he played with jumpers for goalposts as a lad, goals people who looked like him scored etc.

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link

rooney's scored 4 against pompey, but maybe it's a bad week for me to point that out.

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Romario also had to play into his eighties to reach the mark. Some Austrian bloke actually did score a thousand, maybe his were real?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 12:05 (fourteen years ago) link


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