look at everything that's happening in the foreground, the middle, the background, the far background!
To me the layering is not really pronounced. While I can see that some things are closer to the camera than others, ultimately that's not how I perceive it and the overall effect is it looks 'flat' to me. I guess they'd probably say that I don't understand what I'm looking at.
― dubmill, Sunday, 12 July 2015 15:08 (nine years ago) link
some minimal examples
OK, I see what you mean.
― dubmill, Sunday, 12 July 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link
look at everything that's happening in the foreground, the middle, the background, the far background! it could only be improved upon were there a helicopter or plane in the sky in the distance, perhaps exploding into a thousand pieces
lol yes (corroborated by comments there)that 'layering' thing is part of what i meant with alex webb comparisonalso the v 'harmonious' distribution, neat geometric organization, of humans (objects) in space
http://www.webbnorriswebb.co/data/photos/1318_1AW_SufferingOfLight_13.jpg
http://actuphoto.com/clients/fichiers/userfiles/images/Capture_decran_20111004_a_12_27_26%281%29.jpg
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/01/07/blogs/20130107-lens-webb-slide-TI5U/20130107-lens-webb-slide-TI5U-superJumbo.jpg
― drash, Sunday, 12 July 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link
(those are alex webb)
every photo needs to look like this cartier-bresson
http://www.americansuburbx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Henri-Cartier-Bresson-2-Custom.jpg
― drash, Sunday, 12 July 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link
here's a nice diversion: http://www.walkinginla.com/
― chinavision!, Sunday, 12 July 2015 23:26 (nine years ago) link
neat geometric organization, of humans (objects)
OK, I get it now. My first thought re. 'geometry' was that it must refer to buildings/spaces, not the actual people in the photo. Stupid of me -- I recognise this style.
I can't say I hate the Alex Webb photos but I don't particularly like them. What is it that makes the Cartier-Bresson better? 'Lighter touch' (something to do with the framing)? The people are not seen as 'objects' (even though the style is superficially similar)? Technical aspects (softer, less crisp look)? 'patina of history' (image depicts a world further in the past so is intrinsically more mysterious; also may be associated with momentous events, in this case frequently assumed to refer to the effects of the Spanish Civil War -- but was in fact taken in 1933)?
― dubmill, Monday, 13 July 2015 10:29 (nine years ago) link
there's a confrontational tension in the HCB, and the frame through the wall
but yeah HCB doesn't generally do it for me
i still agree with frank:
Robert Frank, whose book “The Americans” (1958) treated subjects akin to many in the older photographer’s work, put it harshly but justly: “He traveled all over the goddamned world, and you never felt that he was moved by something that was happening other than the beauty of it, or just the composition.”
― 龜, Monday, 13 July 2015 10:47 (nine years ago) link
xp i don't dislike webb either; just weary of & feel cold to a pervasive style which seems (at least partly) modeled after him
was being sarcastic about c-b; but do think certain of his photos are in a way archetype for this style
"what makes it better" is interesting q; this strain of c-b leaves me kinda cold too
― drash, Monday, 13 July 2015 10:54 (nine years ago) link
rf otm still kinda unfair, feel there's warmth, pathos in some of c-b's work, but mostly-- yeah
― drash, Monday, 13 July 2015 10:59 (nine years ago) link
was being sarcastic about c-b
Ah, I wondered about that. But I do think it's better (or, at least, I like that one photo much more than the AW ones you posted). Not that I am a huge fan of the style, either.
― dubmill, Monday, 13 July 2015 11:04 (nine years ago) link
that's a really cool site cv
― 龜, Monday, 13 July 2015 11:08 (nine years ago) link
there's a strain of thought that identifies the primary mode of photography as melancholy
i was thinking that for me, photography is the sentimentalist's sport
and you understand then why frank was angry at cartier bresson for not feeling a goddamned thing
― 龜, Monday, 13 July 2015 11:10 (nine years ago) link
melancholysentimentalist's sport
yes, for me too
― drash, Monday, 13 July 2015 11:22 (nine years ago) link
http://www.billjacobsonstudio.com/wp/project/untitled-1999-2001/
― 龜, Saturday, 18 July 2015 13:05 (nine years ago) link
http://www.m97gallery.com/artist/artists_data/jiang_zhi/img/1313054614_1.jpg
jiang zhi
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
why ... isn't this the cover of the new order record
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
http://andrewhammerand.com/the_new_town/hammerand_6.jpghttp://andrewhammerand.com/the_new_town/hammerand_7.jpg
andrew hammerand
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 12:00 (nine years ago) link
^really like those
― drash, Sunday, 9 August 2015 11:59 (nine years ago) link
http://www.cinematheque.fr/data/photo/18860.jpghttp://www.cinematheque.fr/data/photo/18853.jpghttp://www.cinematheque.fr/data/photo/18864.jpghttp://www.cinematheque.fr/data/photo/18863.jpghttp://s3.amazonaws.com/auteurs_production/post_images/14045/01.jpghttp://s3.amazonaws.com/auteurs_production/post_images/14042/04.jpghttp://s3.amazonaws.com/auteurs_production/post_images/14039/07.jpghttp://s3.amazonaws.com/auteurs_production/post_images/14038/08.jpghttp://www.zk-images.com/Sept12/Resnais3.jpghttp://www.zk-images.com/Sept12/Resnais4.jpg
― drash, Sunday, 9 August 2015 12:02 (nine years ago) link
continuedhttp://www.achtung.photography/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Alain_Resnais_Reperages_08.jpghttp://www.achtung.photography/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Alain_Resnais_Reperages_09.jpg
more images here:https://mubi.com/notebook/posts/ten-photographs-by-alain-resnais-mise-en-scene-of-memory-aesthetics-of-silencehttp://www.cinematheque.fr/uk/museum-and-collections/actualite-collections/actualite-patrimoniale/reperages-photographies-resnais.htmlhttp://www.achtung.photography/alain-resnais-and-jorge-semprun-reperages-1974/http://donlonbooks.com/products/reperages-by-alain-resnais
― drash, Sunday, 9 August 2015 12:04 (nine years ago) link
little bbc documentary about a new zealand photographer in the eggleston/shore mode
http://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-33674326
recently published in a book marred with an incongruously 'quirky' cover design - i dismissed it at first
http://www.pottonandburton.co.nz/store/hometown-new-zealand
― linee, Thursday, 13 August 2015 08:47 (nine years ago) link
http://lpvshow.com/files/2010/11/11.jpg
http://lpvshow.com/files/2010/11/13.jpg
http://lpvshow.com/files/2010/11/021.jpg
inside the book
― linee, Thursday, 13 August 2015 08:58 (nine years ago) link
i like his photos a lotalso reminds me a bit of luigi ghirri
― drash, Thursday, 13 August 2015 11:31 (nine years ago) link
yeah for sure
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 13 August 2015 11:58 (nine years ago) link
http://exploreg✧✧✧.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Nan-Goldin-David%E2%80%99s-darkroom-New-Haven-1997-at-MatthewMarks-at-FriezeNewYo✧✧✧@matthewmarksgall✧✧✧.j✧✧
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 23 August 2015 23:19 (nine years ago) link
https://igcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11260788_1675257606041009_528619360_n.jpg
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 23 August 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link
http://flashbak.com/love-boat-rejects-unforgettable-photos-of-people-on-cruise-ships-in-the-1990s-38273/
http://i.imgur.com/e1uhCG4.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ffJ0VkH.jpg
― gr8080, Monday, 31 August 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
ha those are great (martin-parr-esque)actually tbh cruise ship photographer sounds like best worst job ever
― drash, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 04:56 (nine years ago) link
i work with a guy who was a cruise ship videographer a few years back and he def has some best/worst stories
― gr8080, Thursday, 3 September 2015 12:07 (nine years ago) link
ha i can imagine (wd love to hear some but realize they may not be yours to tell)
― drash, Friday, 4 September 2015 02:51 (nine years ago) link
these are great: http://www.janetdelaney.com/south-of-market/
― chinavision!, Thursday, 5 November 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link
these are also great! http://www.zevschmitz.com/islandofmanhattan#0
― chinavision!, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link
i like those, (but) they remind me of the work of asako narahashi, from series 'half awake and half asleep in the water'
http://www.designboom.com/tools/WPro/images/11o/an1.jpg
― drash, Sunday, 15 November 2015 21:04 (eight years ago) link
oh, nice. I never saw that before.
― chinavision!, Thursday, 19 November 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link
those are great
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 20 November 2015 03:02 (eight years ago) link
Darcy Padilla took down The Julie Project gallery on her website when her book got published in France, but I found a big part on the World Press site.http://www.worldpressphoto.org/collection/photo/2015/long-term-projects/darcy-padillaread the captions
this one in particular is something elsehttp://www.worldpressphoto.org/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_main_image/public/archive/2015/stories/LTP/4/nqnk7qdwsh4eu1qlqt5b.jpg?itok=vPllJ0dg
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 20 November 2015 07:38 (eight years ago) link
alsohttps://dd978y4vwod92.cloudfront.net/uploads/photos/images/371210/7683238d0442978f5e26db20625cdb58-large.jpg?1418642972
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 20 November 2015 07:54 (eight years ago) link
er, thishttp://www.worldpressphoto.org/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_main_image/public/archive/2015/stories/LTP/4/myi8zodlj9jx87kx2avi.jpg?itok=EOMpamp3
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 20 November 2015 07:55 (eight years ago) link
http://www.yanming.im/country-of-ambition/
― 龜, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link
any guesses where http://www.yanming.im/files/gimgs/3_35_v2.jpg is
― Capybara (big rat) @ Sea World, San Diego, California, USA (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link
some of those are really exquisite
― Capybara (big rat) @ Sea World, San Diego, California, USA (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link
my guess would be southern china
― 龜, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link
http://dynamicafrica.tumblr.com/post/137680431998/the-power-of-love-an-interview-with
― 龜, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 12:40 (eight years ago) link