what do you see like: 2012

some of my favorites from a recent trip to myanmar:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7155/6798766363_3db17d8e3b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/6798707079_1444d3b3fe.jpg
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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6798559837_35a7e2ac8b.jpg

more here: http://ihardlyknowher.com/45183294@N02

<3 'bout time you posted pics here!

http://ihardlyknowher.com/45183294@N02/big

go big or go home

Two things in play here - sense of place and personalization. If your work isn't personal, then no one's going to give a damn - if you're taking pictures of red tricycles consciously emulating Eggleston or hauling a view camera to Yellowstone to play Adams, the work is just going to be boring. If you're doing either because there's some deeper meaning or impulse to why you do so, then that will show. Combined with projects and plans (for display - book, show, etc.), personal work has a much better chance to be something valuable (to the photographer and maybe viewers).

Sense of place is in the same vein - not an all-encompassing view of a given city or w/e, but a view that encompasses what one person has seen and experienced.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:22 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah, I mean, the question that I think every photographer returns to, probably more than once or multiple times during their career (if not, you're doing it wrong) is why to photograph. why we fight. and maybe each time it becomes a little harder to answer. or maybe for some people, it becomes easier. like they like to take pictures of birds with big telephotos and that's what they'll do for the rest of their lives. idk.

there's two ideas that I bounce around when I think of this. the first is the idea of the visual diarist (or something like this), which has been used by photography critics for awhile now. the idea that a photographer's output is valuable in what milo is saying, a sense of place or personal importance. like, looking at a photographer's collected work, if you know how to read it, tells you what that photographer values, what is important, what she privileges. or at least that's what it should do. no idea what to think if all you've got access to is a ten thousand deep flickr stream. idk.

the other idea is one I picked up from a robert frank interview (I'll scan it soon, I promise!) - the idea of obsession. that a photographer is defined by her obsessions. that photographers are only interesting when they're obsessed. maybe that explains why we all have tropes and symbols we always seem to return to in our photographs. maybe that's why atget would photograph a certain area of paris three, four, five times, always returning. the idea of a return, not as a homecoming, but as a way to shock, to revitalize...

man they're great, rent, the second one kills
xp

... damn, looking at the link dayo put up; these are amazing!
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6798775867_b3af004788_b.jpg

aw thx dudes.

so, any thoughts on what to do when editing, or more specifically, editing for a set of pictures to put up? the most obvious idea is to do common themes, i.e. people eating in restaurants, seascapes, idk. the worry is that once a set's theme is 'revealed' (maybe by the fourth picture or so) then maybe the viewer gets bored.

thought about just picking the best 10 pictures from, say, 50 rolls shot in a row, but then you might lose coherence, or it might feel like "here are 10 pictures that are all nice but don't speak to each other."

hmm

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7009/6805044945_c3d44d9889_z.jpg

love that, gbx

xpost to dayo: on facebook (i dont really do flickr) i intentionally mix up everything chronologically, putting what i think are the best three photos at the top, and try to have little repetition photo to photo

thx dude

i haven't done photos in a while :/

It's been over a year since I've had any inspiration/motivation to go out and take photos. This week I had to as part of two site visits for uni, taking pictures of buildings and derelict sites and stuff, but I just sort of rushed through it (half of the photos came out blurry) because it was cold and the whole process was so catalogue-y ('we need a picture of this street'; 'we need a picture showing cars parked around here'; 'let's get a photo of these listed buildings') that it wasn't really enjoyable.

I haven't really taken photos in weeks. My life is painfully dull right now and I'm suffering from one of those what's-the-point doldrums. Trying to clean up the warehouse to embark on non-photography arts and such to start getting my groove back.

so, any thoughts on what to do when editing, or more specifically, editing for a set of pictures to put up? the most obvious idea is to do common themes, i.e. people eating in restaurants, seascapes, idk. the worry is that once a set's theme is 'revealed' (maybe by the fourth picture or so) then maybe the viewer gets bored.

thought about just picking the best 10 pictures from, say, 50 rolls shot in a row, but then you might lose coherence, or it might feel like "here are 10 pictures that are all nice but don't speak to each other."

hmm

― dayo, Thursday, 2 February 2012 02:58 (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

when i started putting pictures online i was choosing from a whole bunch that i had scanned, a ton of film stacked up, here, & so it was probably a little harder to think about what to put where - it ended up being a weird mix of the things i'd felt most urgently compelled to scan, and the pairings dictated by whatever else i had around - so it might be something shot on the same stock, or otherwise something as close together in feel as i could find from everything on hand. & now it's much easier because i put stuff up more sorta diaristically, so usually there might be a few from the same roll, & then an older shot that i haven't got around to uploading if it fits in. diaristic definitely solves a lot of problems for me.

i do think a kinda vague 'mood' sorta grouping is p good, which usually ends up linking a few photos that are similar to another few photos that are similar to that, so can be maybe more narrative than single-topic. i felt a little awkward recently because i'd put up a run of shots, & i had one of a dog sleeping on the pavement, stretched out, & then another of someone i know half-asleep in the sun somewhere, from the same roll. & they fit really well next to each other just because they both had this kinda inattentive-good-subject-sunlit-relaxation thing going, but it would have made me feel awkward for there to be an implied connection of THIS IS MY SLEEPING ANIMALS SERIES, what w/the humans involved.

yr geographic sets look good anyway dayo, so

i don't really keep up with/read bremser but enjoyed this:

http://bremser.tumblr.com/post/16983873652/the-day-apple-buys-kodak

i've shot portra before but idk if i've used 400, i can't get it locally

I really admire you guys shooting people and crowded places, i'm far to uncomfortable with it. I've thought about it and actually headed into town to do it but couldn't bring myself to get the camera out. Maybe i'm just thinking too much about it?

I went out looking for snowy landscapes, came home with this...
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6818436773_b2ca280e93_z.jpg

do you know this thread?

idk its kindof hard to just start taking photos of ppl tho right?

that photo is great

So, I'm trying to get better at photography.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7017/6775950429_73e9bc4fb8_z.jpg
Sadeyes by alan.stephen, on Flickr

I wish I could put my finger on what's wrong with this.

that's a great picture!

only technical tip I have is that it's a little underexposed

raiding my Lightroom archive
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7003/6825920531_1a038de1d3_b.jpg
Alcatraz stairwell by celluloidpropaganda, on Flickr

Oh man, i wish i could get to visit places like that and get results like that. Nice work milo.

do you know this thread?

idk its kindof hard to just start taking photos of ppl tho right?

that photo is great

― judith, Sunday, 5 February 2012 12:26 (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I do, thank you. Still not got me the courage though. I think i'll stick to subjects that won't frown at or assault me...

Early morning wonder, taking advantage of the fog.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7001/6825160863_5281c07e2c_z.jpg

Milo Z and not_goodwin, I think I can spot yr style before I scroll down and see yr names now. Good work!

n g that is awesome.

milo too

milo, you can crosspost that to the ruins photography thread!

love that soft glow, n_g

keepin' em coming

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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7012/6824596431_f0ac5d9bed_z.jpg

The last few photos posted here are intimidatingly good! I really need to get out with my camera more. Seoul is so ugly this time of year...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6793566303_3ca8602a6e_z.jpg

Can't remember what/if I posted in the other thread. Here we go...

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Untitled by cwsmith, on Flickr

clay!

plax!

that's a little restaurant on the Oregon coast in a little town called Newport. Most of my photography these days is via iPhone. Kind of embarrassed but sign o the times.

Hello, ILP.

no its so modern!

my friend Cecilia several hours into drinking on Saturday night
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Cecilia by celluloidpropaganda, on Flickr

found a lost roll from bosnia
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x18/gr8080/98a7f05b.jpg

that's great! it has the thing of being v balanced in a v unruly way

so quiet here now.

i finally organized my pics so the link upthread wont work anymore. im here now if anyone's interested: http://ihardlyknowher.com/kdfo/sets

Gr80 i know you have aloha friday but is there a place besides here that you post eg bosnia pics?

damn rent you get around! i love the goat(?) action shot under "around europe"

xpost: its funny you should ask, as i just put together a zine layout of 100% bosnia/croatia/hungary pixx

its looks awesome but overall its too many pictures of my bros just goofing off, so i'm trying to decide if i want to actually "release" it or just print a few copies for friends and then re-use a lot of the photos on my next proper zine

if i go w/ the latter, i will post the pdf here for free download

if you wanna fbook me, most of my photos are there, including my europe trip (i keep galleries public for about a week or so before switching to "just friends")

also i have a website but i haven't updated the galleries in about a year and a half

facebook makes photos look so gross but i get the most satisfaction w/ posting them there and knowing friends and strangers see them, too lazy to maintain a flickr as well... some day

ha yeah it's a sheep i think. that was in wales. ive been operating for 2.5 years in asia under this unfounded fear that i could get recalled to canada for some reason & at any moment, so have been trying to get to as many places as i can, whenever i can. it's been great, though, obviously. i used to stare at maps a lot as a kid.

i like that you use pics of your friends. me being stupid maybe but ive always kept friend photos and what felt like "photo" photos as separate categories, without ever even giving it much thought...one of a few unexamined habits im now considering thanks to ilp ppl.

anyways, cool, thanks for the links!

lol @ your cover image

Your Euro-trip photos are spectacular gr80

i like that you use pics of your friends. me being stupid maybe but ive always kept friend photos and what felt like "photo" photos as separate categories, without ever even giving it much thought...one of a few unexamined habits im now considering thanks to ilp ppl.

yes! i think about this a lot too. the emmet gowin thing in the other thread about mainly having your life to offer as photographic material changes things a lot.

been quiet because I'm finally building my website! and the website building part went surprisingly fast, with the photo selection and editing taking surprisingly long.
accidentally made a bunch of photos on flickr 'private' and then back to 'public' again, eliminating favorites etc. so now am trying to take it less seriously, no longer posting to groups etc.
the latest is this then:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7038/6884085643_677c8a90f1_m.jpg
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