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the two wide angle primes look really sweet - 24mm f/2 equivalent?! 28 2.5 is not bad either. the 7-14 is a really sweet lens as well, and the f/4 aperture isn't so important since it's much easier to handhold wides than teles. panny's new 25 1.4 (adapted from the leica designed 25 1.4 for the original four thirds platform) also looks really sweet - a superfast normal is what every system needs.

and if you're a boss bitch you'd get the voigtlander 25/.95 w/ a EVF and get really good at manual focusing quickly

holy balls .95

i'm realizing more and more that i want a VF. i've been dicking around with my Rollei SL35 (ie - just looking at stuff and focusing) and it's reminding me how different shooting with the GF1 is. i love what i can get out of the gf1, but really a lot of the time i'm shooting with it it's from the hip and i just see what comes out later. framing is a secondary concern (esp with post-processing hi-rez images). i should've just pulled the trigger on an OVF

Hey yo, so I just seen some stuff shot on a GH2 (we're talking video here) that looks SICK and am thinking about getting one of these instead of a 7D or 5D. Again this would be for shooting video almost exclusively. I also heard that you can get an older GH1 and hack it to increase the bitrate. Is this true? Any thoughts on these cameras? The 5D seems to be the indie filmmaker/artist's camera of choice now, but I don't see why it has to be. Are these full frame? How are they in low light, etc.?

only certain GH1s can be hacked - I think everything that was lacking in the GH1 was then added to the GH2? not sure.

these are not full frame, otoh Panasonic makes lenses that are optimized for video shooting - silent AF, some other features.

low-light, 5D or 7D would probably kick ass, but the GH2 could probably hold its own.

size wise obviously the GH2 is much more versatile.

dont know of any sites that are reviewing this new video capable generation of stills cameras as video cameras, but I know luminous landscape will sometimes opine about the video capability of a product

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/gh2_discoveries.shtml

This is pretty damning but who knows. Actually it makes me just want to stick to film. Rolling shutter is so ugly:

http://vimeo.com/6894404

what about the panny agaf100

Tell me more

oh snap - gbx has got it

wasn't Sony also supposed to release a video camcorder that could be used w/ NEX lenses?

I kind of feel like the best thing at this point might be like a refurbed GH1 and use the money saved to convert my Bolex gate to super-16 and transfer to HD. I can't see springing for a 5D Mk.II, it doesn't make much financial sense.

xp - there is supposed to be some Sony rival to the 5D, yeah

haha my friend bought a bolex hand-crank and tried to make a film with it. you hear nothing but the bolex in all the scenes

Oh I am a long-time Bolex user and love it, I also don't shoot sync sound though. With that, you either get a silent motor or something that can sit inside a blimp. But trust me the images you can get out of a little clockwork box are fucking unreal if you know what you're doing.

haha it was my friend's first film ever. he got it off CL for like...$250 or $300? one of the lenses is a CCTV lens.

well if the 5d is a stretch money-wise then I'd pass on the agaf100. but it's basically a gh1/2 optimized for video.

if I were gonna make another doc I'd probably go with that tho

why don't you make another doc?

I am trying to make ~myself~ into a doc

aha I see what you did

(=´∀｀)人(´∀｀=)

totally tripping balls over here

if you get a used/refurbed GH1 and you want hacks do some research on which versions are hackable. I'd also look into what the GH2 improved on, might be worth the initial outlay to get access to features of second gen tech

I think I remember what the panny video m43 lenses have: stepless aperture...

adamrl - I'd look at the upcoming Sony A77 dSLR. Full-time AF even in film mode thanks to the pellicle mirror. $1300 for the body.

Coolio, when's it dropping?

any day now - there are already some being sold in Asia, I think

It's a 24MP beast, the already-out A55 has the same 16MP sensor as the Nikon D7000, but I don't know what you're giving up in terms of viewfinder quality/features.

Well the ubiquity of the 5D must come to an end eventually, surely

Whatever the 5D II is replaced with will probably be 50% movie camera, or Canon will come out with a dedicated EOS movie camera or something.

If you buy via Canada (someplace like Henry's), new 5DIIs are under $2k USD, which is pretty crazy.

I did not know that, thank you

Guys reading all these tech sites is making my head spin. What a bunch of bores DSLR nerd are.

So you can basically find a supporting argument for/against any camera you want to buy.

This A77 seems fairly decent though.

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/collection/6666/top_dslrs_compact_interchangeable_lens_cameras_for_video.html

Yeah, the equipment arguments are all angels dancing on the head of a pin at this point, with a couple of exceptions, at least in terms of stills. I don't know anything about video, other than the D700 doesn't have it.

You guys

This is where I announce that I am now the proud owner of a GH2. I got the 14-42 kit lens which I heard is not so hot but have ordered adapters so I can use all my c-mount movie lenses and my Pentax film lens. Isn't it exciting??

I also got fat, fast memory and a Hoodloupe so I'm all pimped out

One thing though - I'm still not sure this thing shoots TRUE 1080P. Supposedly it does in 24P movie mode, but it's hard to find anything that says this for sure.

awesome! are you counting on it to shoot true 1080p?

not counting on it, no. But it seems like a bit of a gray area. that said, the price was right and the only other thing close I would have considered was the 7D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqhNN2fh-Ew

this was shot on a GH2

thoughts on the new olympus?

link?

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/olympusem5/

http://i.imgur.com/4DDtk.jpg

looks like olympus's versions of a panny g series. but it's fully weatherproofed!!

I am seriously questioning my commitment to DSLRs.

woah

My GF1 is barely over a year old, but this is extremely tempting. The new body is nice, but I'm even more interested in seeing how sensor performance compares to the G3/GX1 and if they've improved DR by any noticeable degree.

I doubt it - Panny always seems to have the edge in the sensor tech (not surprising as I think panny manufactures oly's sensor)

want

now i'm torn between this and the x1

well since I've got a m43 cam already this seems like a better deal

Cosina-Voigtlander also announced a 17.5/.95 (equivalent of 35mm) manual focus lens.

I miss having the option for other focal lengths w/ my X100 - between the OM-D and X Pro 1, I don't know which I'd favor.

XP1 - probably superior in low-light (and it seems like half of my shooting is at 1600+), way more expensive, slower AF (presumably), no clue if the lenses are awesome or not
OM-D - smaller, cheaper, the 12/2 and 25/1.4 are great lenses, image stabilization in the body, add-on grip that will probably make it more comfortable for my big hands...

Cosina-Voigtlander also announced a 17.5/.95 (equivalent of 35mm) manual focus lens.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, February 9, 2012 4:10 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wait for m43?

Indeed. Probably $600-700, I'd guess.
I'm not too sure about the usefulness of super-fast MF glass for those systems, tbh. Very thin depth of field and magnification being the only reliable way to manually focus is a weird combo.

yeah I think those lenses are useful as 1.) baubles to be admired and 2.) shooting in the faint light

the olympus 17/2.8 will take you 90% of the way there, the panny 20mm/1.7 will take you 105% the way there (i.e. will probably outshoot the 17/0.95 at all apertures head to head)