will tim tebow have a good nfl career?

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It's in God's hands, clearly.

god i hope not

he will be farve x a million, shame on any of you rooting for him right now

if "good" means "is playing in the NFL 5 years from now" I'll go with...I dunno, sure, why not, maybe he'll find his role

though if I had to put money on it, I dunno...yeah probably not

NO HE WILL NOT HAVE A GOOD NFL CAREER.

yall are retarded fwiw

*is retarded, doesn't get that post*

*daps plies anyways*

a. i voted "it's in god's hands" because obv it is, but tebow's gonna play in the nfl for 15+ years -- probably not at QB, and denver might've spent a first round pick on an h-back, but the guy is a really great athlete (tho maybe a bit slow for the nfl) + and he's got good knowledge of football & i can almost guaruntee that he won't pull an eric crouch and refuse to play a different position if it comes to that -- i think he's prob pretty much the white antwan randel-el, subsitute the tight end position for wide receiver

i would put the chance that tebow leads the broncos in rushing touchdowns next year at 40%

do we even know if he can catch a football?

15+ years! really!?

i've seen him take quite a few snaps out of the shotgun, yes

or maybe 10! whatever. he's gonna have a long career.

so all that tight-end tim tebow needs is a quarterback who turns around and then throws the ball through his legs

can just hear the rick reilly/every other sportswriter jizzing out "what a team player!" already u_u

and btw i'm very much rooting for him!! the nfl has long been this bastion of fitting players into molds as opposed to molding a team/scheme around your players, so i think any player -- like mike vick or vince young or steve young before him -- that forces or allows nfl teams to be more creative is a good thiing for the league and for the fans and i hope tebow takes a ton of wildcat snaps next year and is successful with them

I can otm that

If he's not a success in Denver after two years, I see him being traded to Jacksonville just to put butts in seats (provided he hasn't embarrassed himself so badly that no one cares).

that's why i hate the colts fwiw -- they run like three formations and the same three plays out of those same three formations, it's soooo zzzzzzz get out of here peyton u robot

if he sucks I dunno how many butts are gonna come to seats xp

obv the definition of "good" is at issue here--i doubt he will make it at qb but all accounts of his athleticism indicate he could hang around in some role.

still voted no.

That said, I'm actually rooting for him to do well. xxp

J0rdan otm

I'm rooting for him to be aborted.

Good God, can you imagine what the press coverage will be like if Tebow actually is good? You think Peter King's man-love for Favre is bad, just wait for his Tebow buttsecks.

15+ years! really!?

mel kiper predicts a 37-year nfl career for tebow.

kiper actually isn't a tebow rhapsodizer

Tim Tebow, already having fun!!!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5151607

if there is any god the answer is "no"

I'm agnostic, does that mean maybe?

if the answer is no there may or may not be a god

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looooooooooooooooooooooooooool

i voted "it's in god's hands" because obv it is

^i would like to point out that i was otm itt

:D

awesome

I doubt it. He might be average at best.

Is it seriously still 3 whole months till the start of regular season?? This is torture.

I miss football... :(

5 yrs 33 mil, 13mil guaranteed

that's a lotta bibles!

local interview from months ago where he state "i don't care about material things, i just wanna play football, no way i'd ever holdout" got lots of play the last couple days.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Photo-Tebow-gets-Friar-Tuck-haircut-courtesy-Br?urn=nfl-260942

hoes on my dick cuz tim tebow looks like jesus

He's the official backup.

that isn't a surprise, is it?

Apparently, he'll see playing time today in some designed packages too.

i'll fookin design him a package, outta sackcloth rope anna buncha brinks and ill toss im inna a fookin canal

Yeah it just means that they don't intend to use Quinn in any packages, unlike Tebow, but Quinn is still the backup I think.

NEW YORK -- Former Heisman Trophy winner Tim Tebow is working on an inspirational memoir.

Tebow is collaborating with Nathan Whitaker on "Through My Eyes," scheduled to come out in April. HarperCollins announced the book Monday.

The former University of Florida quarterback was drafted this year in the first round by the Denver Broncos. He has played in four games so far, scoring two touchdowns in 10 carries, but has yet to throw a pass in the regular season.

In a statement released by HarperCollins, the 23-year-old Tebow said his book would be a story "of faith, family and football" and inspiring people to "fulfill their dreams."

The Denver Broncos will give rookie quarterback Tim Tebow his first NFL start Sunday at Oakland, a team source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter on Saturday.

rooting against him so hard :D

too bad the qb position requires him to throw the ball

Tebow through 5 G / 2 GS: 46.1% completion, 4 TD, 1 INT, 75.1 rating, 31.8 rushing yds/game
Vick through 8 G / 2 GS: 44.2% completion, 2 TD, 3 INT, 62.7 rating, 36.1 rushing yds/game

tim tebow is the standard by which all future NFL quarterbacks will be measured.

tim tebow: as good as michael vick, but without the vicious dogfighting!

try and top this andrew luck

anyone care to put cammy cam's stats up there

Tebow has also been sacked infinity times.

anyone care to put cammy cam's stats up there

why would you? cam just isn't a winner. tebow - he just wins games.

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TEBOW

tebow -- he just wins games

greatest season by a quarterback ever.

better season: tim tebow or aaron rogers?

who throws a better pass: tim tebow (broncos) or fred armisen (portlandia)?

i did not read this but at the same time i feel like its relevant http://theclassical.org/post/12980244535/tim-tebow-magical-white-person

Simmons: "It’s almost like Tebow is playing with a handicap, like he’s overcoming some sort of disability."

Haha

feels wrong to say, but bill simmons otm

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is tim tebow the next john beck, is the better question. dare to dream.

actually he kinda nails it:

1. I love how he drives every NFL expert, every saber nerd and most talking heads and sports columnists insane. They can’t handle a world in which Tebow wins ugly and sports defy explanation. It throws their belief system into total flux. The venom/condescension/disbelief pours out of them. It’s awesome. I can’t get enough of it.

2. Along those same lines, how funny is it when announcers try to rationally announce his games, run out of ways to say, "Another terrible pass by Tebow," pretend there’s logic involved, then eventually give up and just start laughing when he comes through late? I listened to Tebow’s fourth-quarter comeback in the car last night — the radio announcers (Ian Eagle and someone else) literally didn’t know what to say. They were just giggling like school kids. How can you explain this? Has there ever been a player who couldn’t even be successfully announced? During last night’s final drive, Eagle became so excited about Tebow's bowling over a Jets defensive back that he actually said the words, " … just got a mouthful of Tim Tebow!!!!"

3. I have watched something like 1,200 quarterbacks play that position the same way, or relatively the same way. I have never, ever, not ever, seen anyone play quarterback like Tim Tebow plays the position. It’s constantly entertaining beyond the scrambling. You never know if he’s going to complete even the simplest 5-yard pass to a wide-open guy; by that same token, you’re never surprised when he hits someone 40 yards downfield on the fly. It’s almost like Tebow is playing with a handicap, like he’s overcoming some sort of disability. He’s willing himself to become a decent NFL quarterback despite massive odds against him. I love it. He’s like Rocky Balboa crossed with Strap from Hoosiers crossed with some sports movie QB in a film that hasn’t been made yet.

4. I can’t remember another non-superstar athlete generating more feedback from my readers these past few weeks. If it were Tiger, Kobe, Favre or whomever, it would make sense. But the QB of a 5-5 team who completes 45 percent of his passes? Before we get to my Week 11 Quick Picks, here’s a sampling just from last night and this morning.

there is a logic to it, it doesnt defy explanation, the broncos opponents have averaged ~15pts in tebows starts

God at work imo

there have even been other bad nfl quarterbacks that played like him

he passes to the scoreboard

if opposing teams had scored the nfl average 22pts in each of his starts he would be 1-4 instead of 4-1!

what are you, a saber nerd

the defense is playing well but i wonder how much of that has to do w/ the fact that the broncos never pass the ball

but they also dont move the ball much so id bet it m/l equals out

right i just mean i wonder if the PPG is a bit misleading

i don't know if he "nails it." my problem with tebow -- aside from a general hate for the florida gators and his pious attitude -- is that he throws an embarrassingly bad pass. it's ugly, almost painful, to watch. he might "be a winner," tho i think mostly he's catching defenses off-guard, but it's just horrible to watch.

what im thinking jordan is denver runs a lot so that would imply fewer possessions than an average game thereby depressing scoring, BUT what if because they suck they dont get many first downs so they actually do end up w/roughly an average number of possessions a game, would be curious to see these actual stats

it's possible

sportswriters continuing to ignore that he is an outspoken conservative pro life christian who mentions jesus at the start of every interview and TALKS TO GOD throughout the game shockah
say, maybe that's why people are so into him? onward xtian soldiers and all that

like whenever it IS mentioned, it's kind of like an "oh yeah btw" but it's at least 80% of the reason he's got america's attention right now instead of oh, andy dalton

well, that and the fact that he was widely considered THE GREATEST COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYER EVER. E-V-E-R

and yet, now, he is the WORST passer of any quarterback i've seen in the NFL.

well, that and the fact that he was widely considered THE GREATEST COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYER EVER. E-V-E-R

― Daniel, Esq., Friday, November 18, 2011 11:29 PM (10 minutes ago)

wait really?

there have even been other bad nfl quarterbacks that played like him

like who?

widely really might be pushing it

i mean, he was considered one of the best players ever, yes. but there was certainly no consensus.

i don't know if he "nails it." my problem with tebow -- aside from a general hate for the florida gators and his pious attitude -- is that he throws an embarrassingly bad pass. it's ugly, almost painful, to watch. he might "be a winner," tho i think mostly he's catching defenses off-guard, but it's just horrible to watch.

i think that's part of what makes him fun to watch!

sportswriters continuing to ignore that he is an outspoken conservative pro life christian who mentions jesus at the start of every interview and TALKS TO GOD throughout the game shockah
say, maybe that's why people are so into him? onward xtian soldiers and all that

yeah that's part of it but these last few games have been endlessly entertaining regardless
i mean i think that people just naturally root for shitty players with obvious flaws but maybe that's just me

defenses are going to scheme to him and shut down his current M.O. faster than they did to Michael Vick in 2001.

from there, he'll either A. work on his passing game and become an actual threat in the pocket, which will make scheming against him much more difficult, or B. he'll have plenty of time to learn the Tight End position

what would be awesome is if they give Orton some snaps too, say on 3rd and anything longer than 5

what would be awesome is if they give trade Orton some snaps too, say on 3rd and anything longer than 5 to a YMCA flag football squad

hey Vince Young was the greatest college player E-V-E-R fuiud

barry sanders is the best player in football history at any level

im just saying the "run, option, and occassional throw" plan could kinda work but I don't know if you can convert a 3rd and long that way

i guess what i'm saying is that i can imagine a successful system with a guy like Tebow taking snaps at QB but I would imagine you'd need a guy with a real arm and probably more talent up front

well, that and the fact that he was widely considered THE GREATEST COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYER EVER. E-V-E-R

― Daniel, Esq., Friday, November 18, 2011 11:29 PM

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wait really?

― mon/ seeya/ chi 2.0 (k3vin k.), Saturday, November 19, 2011

maybe "widely considered" is too strong. but yes. see, e.g., tebow greatest college player ever (about 3,550,000 results in 0.10 seconds

raises a more general, and serious, question for me. how is it that tebow was so good in college, playing in a tough league where many players move on to the NFL, and yet he now looks so inept at the mechanics of the quarterback position in the NFL? put differently, why wouldn't those SEC defenses, dotted with pro-prospects, expose tebow's technical shortcomings almost as well as NFL defenses?

i don't think you grasp the disparity in quality b/w college and pro

i guess i don't, in this context. yes, if florida was playing east idaho state every week, i'd easily see the disparity. but the defenses he faced week-in, week-out -- e.g., LSU; Alabama; Florida State; Auburn -- these are overstuffed with players that he'll be seeing week-in, week-out in NFL defenses. that's the part i don't get.

1. regardless which program most players dont make the pros
2. its all abt the schemes man, the complexity

yeah, i guess. i just checked alabama's 2010 NFL draft picks; it's a good list, but wouldn't by itself result in a jawdropping defense. but that, of course, doesn't consider the other alamaba defensive starters that weren't coming-out in the 2010 draft.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/kerry_byrne/03/22/tim.tebow/index.html

welcome to the wonderful world of college qb performance not projecting to the pros

yeah, really. so, despite the overwhelming statistical evidence favoring tebow's college numbers over payton and eli manning, tim couch, jamarcus russell and matt stafford:

it tells us that NFL talent evaluators are out of their freaking minds

And yet NFL evaluators, for some reason, aren't sold on Tebow. Couch and Russell are two bona fide NFL busts, even though pro football talent evaluators couldn't usher them into the league fast enough. Yet these same talent evaluators harbor grave doubts about the ability of the greatest and most efficient passer in SEC history to pass the ball at the next level.

Other executives seem obsessed by the trivia over Tebow's mechanics, while overlooking the rather irrefutable fact that he dominated college football like no player in memory and despite the fact that he was, by any objective measure, a much better passer than Couch, Russell, Stafford, and either of the Manning brothers.

so again: tim tebow will be the standard against which all future NFL quarterbacks will be judged.

Tebow was, by any measure, a better player, a better quarterback and, yes, a better passer than any of these No. 1 picks

lol

I love this tim tebow narrative, it's so lol, love watching the highlights, it's like watching a poorly designed slingshot

one big thing imho is in college receivers get open like really open on nearly every play in a way thats rare in the pros, in the pros youre throwing the ball into these really small short lived windows, like yr receivers often not open yet when you release the ball, so accuracy timing and ability to read the defense are all super important in the pros in a way thats never really tested in college

accuracy like aaron rogers has. that's a really good point. it's a skill that wouldn't be as valuable in college if receivers are constantly getting open.

feel like ability to read the defense, recognize that a receiver is gonna be open in one second for one second, is even more important

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raises a more general, and serious, question for me. how is it that tebow was so good in college, playing in a tough league where many players move on to the NFL, and yet he now looks so inept at the mechanics of the quarterback position in the NFL? put differently, why wouldn't those SEC defenses, dotted with pro-prospects, expose tebow's technical shortcomings almost as well as NFL defenses?

― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:21 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark

you're overrating the SEC. it's of course a very competitive college conference, but it's still the college game which doesnt really compare with nfl football at all. when you're projecting guys you can't overrate 'performance' you just have to look at individual skills

one big thing imho is in college receivers get open like really open on nearly every play in a way thats rare in the pros, in the pros youre throwing the ball into these really small short lived windows, like yr receivers often not open yet when you release the ball, so accuracy timing and ability to read the defense are all super important in the pros in a way thats never really tested in college

― ice cr?m, Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:50 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

well also this is why big-time arm strength is a needed attribute for an elite QB. you need to fucking drive the ball to consistently fit into those tight windows. tebow's avg arm strength + slow delivery is one of the worst possible combinations for making decisive nfl throws

yeah u basically have to have all the stuff to be successful in the big leagues

all fair points. i don't watch enough college football to really know. it just seemed to me that SEC defenses are mostly composed of players that end up in the NFL.

not mostly

certainly a higher incidence of players that go onto the pros, but still most of them dont get there

yeah, you're right, i now see that.

why is tebow's arm so weak - he's a big guy right? how come vick can outthrow him?

and #1 QB picks have, on average, been pretty successful, no?

it also can not be overstated how much simpler the college game is, they have limited time to practice, the coaches arent as good, and most of the players arent smart enough to deal w/the complexity of the pro game

why is tebow's arm so weak - he's a big guy right? how come vick can outthrow him?

― tracy mcgr8080 (dayo), Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:13 PM (1 minute ago)

ime with sports there's not nearly a direct correlation between like, size and 'power' (whatever power means to a particular sport) - it has much more to do with mechanics

tebows delivery is hella ugly

it's so lol, love that a starting QB has that throw, hes trolling the NFL so hard

i mean other than brute strength like blocking in football or something, i'm talking about like, throwing a ball far, hitting a tennis ball hard, etc

shooting deep jumpshots

why is tebow's arm so weak - he's a big guy right? how come vick can outthrow him?

― tracy mcgr8080 (dayo), Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:13 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i cant really claim to understand it tbh, but its clearly not about having big biceps or anything like that. some guys actually do improve their arm strength when they get into the nfl, so, i dunno

i mean other than brute strength like blocking in football or something, i'm talking about like, throwing a ball far, hitting a tennis ball hard, etc

― mon/ seeya/ chi 2.0 (k3vin k.), Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:20 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

what about rafa's One Huge Arm

thats not for uh tennis

there was a malcolm gladwell article on why predicting nfl success for college qbs is particularly hard and it mostly comes down to time and the quality of the defense:

It had always been hard to predict how a college quarterback would fare in the pros. The professional game was, simply, faster and more complicated. With the advent of the spread, though, the correspondence between the two levels of play had broken down almost entirely. N.F.L. teams don’t run the spread. They can’t. The defenders in the pros are so much faster than their college counterparts that they would shoot through those big gaps in the offensive line and flatten the quarterback. In the N.F.L., the offensive line is bunched closely together. Daniel wouldn’t have five receivers. Most of the time, he’d have just three or four. He wouldn’t have the luxury of standing seven yards behind the center, planting his feet, and knowing instantly where to throw. He’d have to crouch right behind the center, take the snap directly, and run backward before planting his feet to throw. The onrushing defenders wouldn’t be seven yards away. They would be all around him, from the start. The defense would no longer have to show its hand, because the field would not be so spread out. It could now disguise its intentions.

there was another article - michael lewis, I think? - or at least lewis-esque about the fact that there really just aren't that many opportunities to prove yourself as a pro qb. a handful of new people a year get the chance to even start, and far far fewer get alex smith-like opportunities.

ive always found that gladwell article to be specious when it came to the football stuff

agreed, like this

The defenders in the pros are so much faster than their college counterparts that they would shoot through those big gaps in the offensive line and flatten the quarterback.

idgi do players get faster when they get to the pros, like can you not play spread vs future pros in college

malcolm gladwell is amusing until he writes abt something you know anything abt

think in college every team has like a few fast people but in the NFL all the teams have all the fast people

well, line splits are definitely a lot smaller in the pros. you would have to be insane to use mike leach style splits in the nfl

the problem is that to tie it to the teaching thing, he has to forward an argument thats blatantly false:

But there’s a hitch: no one knows what a person with the potential to be a great teacher looks like. The school system has a quarterback problem.

The problem with picking quarterbacks is that Chase Daniel’s performance can’t be predicted. The job he’s being groomed for is so particular and specialized that there is no way to know who will succeed at it and who won’t.

that last line in particular is just, c'mon, no

we actually talked about this on here a few years ago btw:

Search and Destroy: FOOTBALL WRITING

it also can not be overstated how much simpler the college game is, they have limited time to practice, the coaches arent as good, and most of the players arent smart enough to deal w/the complexity of the pro game

you have definitely convinced me that the college game stinks.

except for the old UMiami teams. they could beat most NFL teams, i'm pretty sure. otherwise, shut down the NCAA.

btw, no joek, this college/pro discussion on this thread is excellent.

does nobody remember the michael lewis article? I feel like it was about matt cassel? or whoever else was brady's backup at the time

college is still generally more entertaining to watch because less-polished players lead to more interesting things happening xp

ive always found that gladwell article to be specious when it came to the football stuff

yeah im a p casual football fan (and dgaf abt college ball at all) but i think the broad strokes of his argument are p much true, and that college success isnt a great predictor of nfl success, although the way he ties it into the teaching things is p hamfisted and sorta distort the picture

college is still generally more entertaining to watch because less-polished players lead to more interesting things happening xp

― iatee, Saturday, November 19, 2011 4:15 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the wider variety of weird shit that happens in the college game is like the one thing it has going for it, other than that it p much blows imho

does nobody remember the michael lewis article? I feel like it was about matt cassel? or whoever else was brady's backup at the time

― iatee, Saturday, November 19, 2011 4:14 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

it sounds vaguely familiar, but i cant find it

college games also all 'matter' in a way that most regular season pro games don't, that adds something to it. losing any game fucks your whole season, whereas if the packers lose a few games this season, all that changes is the tv banter.

that is one of the horrible things abt the college game, get a playoffs u fucks

well yeah it comes w/ a price of having the stupidest postseason in all of sports

its also encourages teams to pack their schedules w/nobodies

college games also all 'matter' in a way that most regular season pro games don't, that adds something to it. losing any game fucks your whole season, whereas if the packers lose a few games this season, all that changes is the tv banter.

― iatee, Saturday, November 19, 2011 4:30 PM (34 minutes ago)

only for like 10 teams tho

i wonder if john elway is kicking himself for allowing tebow and his shakey popgun arm to start. now -- through "smoke and mirrors" that won't yield long-term success -- tebow's helped denver win itself out of contention for a top-tier quarterback.

ugh malcolm gladwell :(((((

i do agree though that the scouts generally look at the wrong things, they love guys with "big arms" who can throw 50 yards downfield which is a throw they almost never have to make anyway. what's really important is reading defenses, knowing coverages, being able to adjust plays, and accuracy above all else, which is why guys like Rodgers, Manning, and Brady succeed where the "better athletes" will fail. the problem is that you never really know who's going to be able to adjust, IIRC nobody thought Cam Newton would have any success but it seems he'll be fine

there was an interesting column by a miami sportswriter, after a stanford loss, arguing that maybe andrew luck is overrated. i think the writer said luck looked like chad pennington with a stronger arm. that's . . . okay. not saying the writer is correct, just an interesting observation.

(this is based on the "scouts look at the wrong things" line).

almost all casual fans in this town, and 2/3rds of more serious fans, are on a first name basis with tim now.

i did learn on the radio today that to properly read his stats line, you have to throw out all of his runs, and treat them as "completed passes to himself." then his passing stats look more acceptable.

i just talked to tim today.

he tried to convert me.

lol xp

ive always found that gladwell article to be specious

i do agree though that the scouts generally look at the wrong things, they love guys with "big arms" who can throw 50 yards downfield which is a throw they almost never have to make anyway. what's really important is reading defenses, knowing coverages, being able to adjust plays, and accuracy above all else, which is why guys like Rodgers, Manning, and Brady succeed where the "better athletes" will fail. the problem is that you never really know who's going to be able to adjust, IIRC nobody thought Cam Newton would have any success but it seems he'll be fine

― frogbs, Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:53 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

eh a big arm is just one thing scouts love. Plenty of scouts hated Jamarcus, who had the biggest arm ever. also "big arm" can mean chunking it down field jeff george style but it can also mean zipping passes out to the flat.

big enough arm is all you need, which is to say a p big arm

there was an interesting column by a miami sportswriter, after a stanford loss, arguing that maybe andrew luck is overrated. i think the writer said luck looked like chad pennington with a stronger arm. that's . . . okay. not saying the writer is correct, just an interesting observation.

― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:56 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

(young) pennington w/a (much) stronger arm would be really good!

well if you can't stomach Tebow now, don't expect the hoohah to die down anytime soon as long as he approaches at least some level of mediocrity and his team keeps winning (regardless of whether he has anything to do with it).

Hell, the media and half the fans were STILL on Michael Vick's jock pre-dogfighting, and would explain away all of his faults. Granted that 1,000 yard season as a QB was pretty neato but he still had horrible accuracy issues and all you'd hear was still things like "YOU HAVE TO GAMEPLAN FOR VICK" or "YOU CAN'T MEASURE HIM WITH TODAY'S STATISTICS!"

he wasn't magical though

or miraculous

well don't worry guys i will spend all week if i have to summoning the spirit of Ty Detmer to enter Tebow's body by gametime

eh a big arm is just one thing scouts love. Plenty of scouts hated Jamarcus, who had the biggest arm ever. also "big arm" can mean chunking it down field jeff george style but it can also mean zipping passes out to the flat.

― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, November 19, 2011 8:09 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

otm

i do agree though that the scouts generally look at the wrong things, they love guys with "big arms" who can throw 50 yards downfield which is a throw they almost never have to make anyway.

arm strength isnt really about the 50 yard bomb, it's about driving the ball on the deep out or the 22 yard dig, it's about fitting balls into tiny spaces (pause) - it's absolutely a necessary part of a franchise QB's toolkit. QBs who can throw with serious velocity are prized for a good reason, and QBs who struggle to drive the ball will also struggle with running multidimensional passing games that can attack every level of a defense. you can certainly make do with guys who lack arm strength if they make up for it in other areas, but it requires that you run an offense suited to his limitations, which of course makes you easier to defend

^^

its hard to zip a pass thrown end over end #tebowtips

but it's not even that TT doesn't have a big arm as much as his release is visibly long and non-repeating? Like

like = dislike, I guess

http://letmejustsayit.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/noodle-arms.jpg

Tebowmania didn't even last as long as Fernandomainia.

well, until he wins the superbowl at least

guy in my office is arguing that tebow is a 'winner'

he is, demonstrably, a "chicken dinner"

I fully expect a 10-7 Bronco victory (with the Broncos 10 points coming on a pick-6 and a 60-yard FG)

You guys just don't UNDERSTAND Tebowmania. Clearly, he has to enter the playoffs in the shittiest fashion possible (getting blown out twice, then putting up 3 points at home)

http://www.celebathletes.com/sports_gossip/football/tim-tebow-is-a-ladies-man/
"Girls druel over Tim Tebow. That goes without saying, he is a super star athlete with fame, soon to be fortune, two national titles and he is strong as an ox. Well he made a visit to the House of Representatives yesterday and when the rumor that he was in the building passed, the women were in a cold sweet."

"druel"

boys ruel, girls druel, mercedes ruehl

those poor women, trapped in a cold sweet

while checking the spelling of ruehl's name i found this which is pretty classic:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/brooksdr/ruehl.htm

lol

Another Anonymous writes:

Mercedes, who is from Cuba...........and not far from Haiti..........where there is lots of "voodoo".........I think Mercedes was (or is) involved in VooDoo....... I'd bet a bundle she is involved in it...........and I don't know if that is a bad thing or what.........I do know one thing...........and that is..........I would never do anything to hurt another human being........and if one is using VooDoo to do evil..........that is NOT A GOOD THING.........even for revenge.................

I believe she is very dangerous in her power, and will use it to no good end....... she has no moralistic way about her...............she is evil........... I feel she has put a spell on me too.........I don't exactly understand all of this... but ever since I met her..........my life has been a living hell........

[Editor: The above passage is only 5% of the complete e-mail that I received. The writer also accused Ms. Ruehl of phone tapping, witchcraft and five years of harassment using the occult arts. Hmmmmmm. I'm not sure if this story supports my cause.]

M@ri$a?

i wonder if john elway is kicking himself for allowing tebow and his shakey popgun arm to start. now -- through "smoke and mirrors" that won't yield long-term success -- tebow's helped denver win itself out of contention for a top-tier quarterback.

― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:15 PM (4 months ago)

in his defense, do you think the broncs would have made as serious a play for ANY other qb but peyton?

sure

did they?

were they on the board for flynn at any point?

I don't think I heard anything about them looking at other QBs.

peyton is just the perfect answer; no matter how t-boner zealous your fans are, they're gonna give peytey a shot
but man how depressing would it be if dude got benched for tebow halfway into the season; what a legacy killer

they wouldn't have made a serious play for any other FA besides peyton, no, but i'm almost positive they were gonna draft a qb this year or next

is this a real thing

Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
On Easter Sunday, about 30,000 people are expected to attend the Celebration Church in Austin, Tx., and hear Jets QB Tim Tebow preach.

yup. happened. NFL is just a stepping stone for him.

Only 15k though. And they probably would've got a lot of people for easter with or without him.

do we have a transcript

am i going to hell

http://images.thepostgame.com/sites/default/files/Tim-Tebow-013_BP.jpg

oh

come

ON

http://theotherjournal.com/amishjihadi/files/2011/12/tebow-jesus.jpg

jesus has risen
he just cant throw that well

will the tebow
be unbroken
by the by lord by the by

if that doesn't make him tacklebait nothing will

reminiscent of the shot of a-rod kissing himself in the mirror

otm

or the Sanchez pic of him in the white pimp trousers

lord of the dance

http://www.theonion.com/articles/ground-emerges-as-tim-tebows-favorite-target,29210/

god bless the Onion

http://www.nfl.com/qs/tebowzone/index.jsp

http://www.imagecpr.com/imagecpr.com%20uploads/2012/09/TEBOW-HELMET.gif

lol

quite honestly I don't care what happens for the rest of the season, I am just ecstatic and privileged that I got to see that play live

also boggling @ TebowZone

lol

jacksonville? nope.

OAKLAND, sorry veg but girl u know its tru

shut up shut up shut up

Canadians would probably love the Teebs.

this motherfucker is running for president, no way he goes to euro/canada/xfl

wish he would just embrace being a tight end already

The results of the poll made me giggle.

wish he would just embrace being a tight end already

http://www.imagecpr.com/imagecpr.com%20uploads/2012/09/TEBOW-HELMET.gif

please insert the word "blocking" between "a" and "tight"

hey, remember this guy?

NEVAR FORGET

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000158803/article/new-york-jets-hopeful-theyll-find-suitor-for-tim-tebow

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport said Tuesday on "NFL Total Access" there's no buzz connecting Tebow to another team at this time. This is an unfortunate reality for the Jets, who sunk two draft picks and $2.5 million to obtain Tebow from the Denver Broncos last year. Tebow reportedly plans to attend voluntary workouts if he's still on the roster. Rapoport said the Jets are open to keeping Tebow in-house for minicamp and OTAs with the hopes that a suitor eventually emerges. And while Tebow could have a role in early team activities -- however awkward that might be -- Rapoport has been told it remains "highly unlikely" Tebow will be on the Jets by the time training camp begins in July.

i don't like tebow but honestly kelly should scoop him up.

it just seems like wherever he goes the team should be able to make back his contract with what they make on jersey sales alone

he is destined somehow to win hoodie and hoodie jr a superbowl.

The newest UF quarterback, Jim Freebow.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/946750_10152763464695066_1630397511_n.jpg

lol

apparently more than one team contacted him about playing te and the answer was no

this is the best lede: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/29/report-eagles-dont-want-tebow/

has timbow ever returned punts?

He's been on the field in punting/fg plays, but I don't think he's ever returned.

feel like he has good body type and elusiveness for that maybe?

Oh yeah, if he gets a good start, he's really slippery.

ew

http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/58339/should-patriots-sign-tim-tebow

6 paragraphs seems a lot when i am pretty sure there is a one word answer, two if you start with 'fuck'

lol

it's wild that dude is so stubborn... i'm not the first to say this but this is one of the most interesting cases of how white athletes get treated vs black athletes

how so? i've seen black + white qb's bounce from team to team throughout their career. tebow doesn't seem exceptional in that regard.

No, I think it was in reference to how Tebow keeps turning down any offer that isn't a qb position. For him, stubbornness is viewed as a virtue?

who's still viewing it as a virtue?

Tebow fans and...okay, Tebow fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIQWzW1MIc

I never realized how bad the overdubs were on this until I listened to it through headphones just now.

can we put Tebow on the Chargers, I mean they already broke the seal with Te'o so we might as well give them Tebow and Chad Johnson to complete the omglol trifecta

otm

if they could just find a way to get Dennis Rodman into football...

they could borrow Mikhail Youzhny from tennis for a snap or two

I love that when they ask GMs if they're interested in Tebow they don't even bother to be polite about it.

I hope he doesn't go to NE because that evil, evil baztard will somehow talk Tebow into playing some TE/FB/HBack and he would probably f-ing awesome at it. I don't think the world needs Tebow success with Gronk and f-ing Brady at the same time.

tebow is way too slow to return punts imo

The Omaha Beef have a job waiting for Tim Tebow if he wants it -- and the Nebraska indoor football team will even pay him $75 a game.

he pretty obviously would be a solid fullback right?

http://www.sbnation.com/2013/5/1/4282368/tim-tebow-cfl

I kinda feel like Tebow is a bit of a coward when he doesn't have the ball. I don't buy him as a consistent blocker.

haha the other day I was experimenting with microtones and it was driving my wife insane

i want that post to be about tim tebow

tebow's friends call him "microtones"

irl lol

wtf how the hell did that happen

stupid ILX, making me look Tebow-curious

kevin drumm ft. tim tebow: on bended knee

xp i'm sure it's just a phase

FYI im playing 'draw something' with pp's mom. today I sent her my interpretation of 'tebowing'

Tim Tebow Tops Forbes' 2013 List Of America's Most Influential Athletes

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomvanriper/2013/05/06/americas-most-influential-athletes-2/

he's bigger than the game, u know.

Why not switch the focus to any number of highly religious and conservative athletes who are actually good at sports.

Tebow cracks me up because he self-evidently has this enormous ineffable Q rating that makes him ripe for celebrity despite how painfully inept he is as a professional quarterback

it's like if Ryan Lochte was still getting all of the attention and endorsements he has now but was competing in all of his events with an unnaturally fast doggy paddle

signing with the patriots

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

lmao

omg lolololololololololololol

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

If anyone can convince Tebow to let go of his QB dreams and be a productive TE, it's Bill imo.

they need tight ends?

remember, Gronk snapped his arm off in the playoffs

TEBOWWWWWWWWW

If anyone can convince Tebow to let go of his QB dreams and be a productive TE, it's Bill imo.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, June 10, 2013 5:15 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

yeah this really is tebow's final shot

he can be a fullback or something maybe. idk if the pats even use a FB ever?

my god...

Patriots waived QB Mike Kafka.

I think at this point we can all agree tim tebow has had a good career

after this little phase i predict he moves back to colorado to open the tebow megachurch

Tebow currently is heading to Foxborough and will play quarterback in New England, Ian Rapoport reports

Patriots waived QB Mike Kafka.

Troubling.

I am convulsing with lols at my desk

this is the best news i've heard all day

this is the greatest NFL news I have ever received (lol xpost)

i would never wish physical ill on an athlete just to satisfy my own entertainment but my god if brady goes down...

poll results w/snoopsaysno.jpeg are killing me right now

i would pay so much money out of pocket for tebow to be responsible for multiple touchdowns when the patriots play at the jets

my god if brady goes down...

Mallett would probably have the edge, right?

I wonder if Brady is practicing his gasface

i think the way this works is they try tebow at the half when brady gets badly injured, he has a crazy three touchdown, two turnover win; QB controversy on the week off; they start him and he has a weird flukey dominant game; a week of nonstop OMYGOD IS HE BETTER THAN BRADY and then three weeks of ugly hash until brady gets back; he angrily takes the ball out of tebow's hands and whips him all the way up to golgotha. then tebow rises on the third day and takes the seahawks to the superbowl. then he ascends and the hawks lose in overtime.

somehow he ends up taking the Atlanta Hawks to the Superbowl rather than the Seattle Seahawks, otherwise OTM

my bad, i was distracted by my base urges while typing that.
off to go try on my new patriots #15 hairshirt

OMYGOD FIRST QB CONTROVERSY: WHO KEEPS 15!!?!?!?!??!?!!?!?
http://www.patriots.com/team/roster/Ryan-Mallett/8d9f1286-6282-4f3f-8592-d31725d2ca5f

Mallett would probably have the edge, right?

Mallett also wears #15.

CONTROVERSY!

lol jinx

Matt Ryan, Tim Tebow, Matt Schaub, Alex Smith, TJ Yates, and Jay Cutler all have one career playoff victory as QB.

And Tony Romo!

Rex Grossman has two

poll, and i'm voting ryan

http://www.outsports.com/2012/4/13/4052942/rob-gronkowski-wants-to-take-tim-tebows-virginity

why are the patriots trolling the bruins like this

why are the patriots trolling everyone like this? I'm so delighted tbh this is hilarious news

http://i38.tinypic.com/3484vx3.jpg

if i were still a mod, that would SO be tebow autoreplace

someone grant this dying boy a wish

he is destined somehow to win hoodie and hoodie jr a superbowl.

― life is good (Hunt3r), Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:02 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so. *drums fingers*

how long until i can consume sports media again?

forks for mod

http://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/971763_664125810268832_1278328233_n.jpg

i did lol

mike kafka must be pretty shit i guess

also, anyone get the sense that bb is kinda bored with football?

beast in hoodie slouches towards bethlehem, click here.

"No comment from Coach Belichick or Tom Brady at Patriots camp on the signing of Tim Tebow"

http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=-exDutE-zd6ntM&tbnid=GnVdvDVVN0tE1M:&ved=0CAUQjBwwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.telegraph.co.uk%2Fmultimedia%2Farchive%2F00671%2Fdarth-vader-404_671069c.jpg&ei=7Zy3Ud-QAqOdyQHtj4GYBg&psig=AFQjCNFRLygKsB1z3IUUzEvCfMOiHqoW9A&ust=1371074157066072

"It's not a surprise to me that Tim would be picked up, obviously as I've said before, tremendous young man, very competitive and I look forward to competing against him," Jets coach Rex Ryan said Tuesday.

Asked if he was curious how Belichick planned to use Tebow, Ryan said, "Not really. Nope. If they want to replace Brady with him, that's fine."

looool

Brady did stop short of stamping his approval on the Patriots potentially using Tebow in a special package on offense, one that would send him to the sideline.

"That's a very hypothetical question," said Brady, when asked how he'd react to coming off the field in favor of Tebow. "Maybe we'll deal with it if it happens."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JYJhWIwGUw

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/12/sports/football/tebows-debut-with-patriots-reveals-little.html

“There’s a reason why he’s here,” tight end Aaron Hernandez said of Tebow, his former teammate at Florida. “I actually don’t know the reason yet, but we’ll see."

haha gold

and lo the lord gave the patriots his only begotten son for reasons yet to be determined

Got to say the Pats keep finding new reasons for people to both love and hate them.

pretty good read: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/longform/tebow/index.html

Tim Tebow is apparently the focus of a bidding war between ESPN's SEC Network, CBS Sports and Fox Sports for college football analysis next season.

Not a joke.

Oh the guy will be huge on TV for college football. As bad Tebow is at throwing the football, I have a hard time believing that Brandon Wheedon is a better QB than him.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/10/20/4859944/packers-vs-browns-brandon-weeden

Sad thing is that Tebow is definitely a good enough athlete, you have to think the guy could be a pro someplace else on the field. But hey, the guy has his principals, but I would think there would be something to the story if the guy agreed to being an H-Back or something of the sort and had success. The TV gig is always going to be there to an extent.

He might have the body type to be a fullback or a tight end but I don't think he could hack it. He was okay at running when he was with the Broncos but he added too much weight with the Jets.

Also his interviews were 100% platitudes. I doubt he could provide color commentary of value. He might be a good sideline reporter jock.

Yeah, that's the stunner for me. This guy is not so great at the talking.

ESPN has hired @TimTebow as analyst for SEC Network (Aug. launch). Makes ESPN debut Monday on BCS

time to get on with his life's work

damn sec network thats a dis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTaH-OtUv94

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/tim-tebow-wants-you-to-know-he-s-in-shape-and-totally-ready-for-an-nfl-call-171541549.html

"One of my favorite quotes is 'I don't know what my future holds, but I know who holds my future.' And in that, it gives you peace to just continue to work, go after what your heart desires and when you do that, you don't have any regrets. I think that's the best way to live life," Tebow said.

I don't know what my pants hold, but i know who holds my pants

i don't know for sure that it's a good idea to put my arm in this wood chipper but if not jesus has got my back. no regrets. #yolo(ej)

this poll was about as OTM as ILX has ever been.

He's still won as many playoff games as Tony Romo and Andrew Luck have.

that's the "in god's hands" part

this dude will be preaching in tents all over america soon

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17252762/former-nfl-qb-tim-tebow-pursue-career-professional-baseball

smfh

i'm sure he'll have one of those patented "touched by jesus" heroic moments

http://i.imgur.com/02vRunl.gif

in the minors maybe

http://media.chick.com/tractimages67491/0057/0057_01.gif

i'm watching this guy swing and...he's got no shot

bad swing?

there's always the Marlins

https://twitter.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/770685383797383168

minor league teams would absolutely kill to have him; maybe some club will do them a favor and sign him

He launched a few big bombs in batting practice, apparently

Oh yeah, if he gets a good start, he's really slippery.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, April 29, 2013 11:46 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ew

― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Monday, April 29, 2013 11:48 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Interesting to note his arm was considered a bit below average, the article stated mist likely LF-1B for position.

The scout said he didn't see any issue in giving him a shot, worst comes to worse you sell some minor league jerseys and then have to release him.

yeah definitely

CAD the swing was super powerful but it was all arms and his plane was almost comically uppercut, like out of a beer league. he's obv an insane athlete but at age 29 i really doubt he could be taught the mechanics to hit live pitching at the level he seems to want to play at

a couple years ago he was kinda cute tbh

oh you

oh him!

I'm sure he'll hit .250 if everybody pitches to him underhand

who CARES?

the fact that Sotosyn knows who this underachiever is can be chalked up entirely to his God Squad PR

you should be pleased, having a failed nfl player tryout for baseball is a big deal for the profile of the sport

he will be a blocking left-fielder

ban spiralli

the profile of the sport (does not cause brain damage) is fine

Tim Tebow has never been what everyone wanted him to be, and for that he became one of America’s most celebrated, and at times scorned, athletes.

He wore his faith on his sleeve – or at least his eye black with Bible verses. He was relentlessly positive in an era better known for bitterness and snark. He spent his free time visiting hospitals and speaking at prisons and caring about people few others care about. He freely admitted adhering to romantic restrictions that run counter to much of modern society, most notably that of a star athlete at the University of Florida.

For all of that he was lauded and laughed at and labeled, good and bad, and more specifically in ways that made him into whatever someone wanted him to be.

No matter what, he kept smiling. He kept explaining. He kept just being Tim, take it or leave it.

When Tebow’s NFL career gets discussed, it often boils down to a simple question: Why didn’t he just play another position?

The 6-foot-3, 245-pounder is an NFL-caliber athlete. What he wasn’t, at least not consistently, was an NFL quarterback. No shame in that. NFL rosters are littered with former college quarterbacks contributing in other ways.

Tebow had plenty of offers to become a tight end or an H-back or some utility piece. Bill Belichick, the master of Swiss Army knife players, even brought him into New England. Tebow wouldn’t budge. It was quarterback or bust. He went bust.

Now, at 29, Tebow is preparing to join the New York Mets organization to give baseball a try. He isn’t merely at peace with that, he’s thrilled with the challenge.

Yet he’s well aware of the lingering question … the question that produces an answer that makes little sense to some of Tebow’s most ardent fans and seems at odds with the too-simple narrative that was long ago formed around him. What it actually speaks to is precisely the self-made, secure cutting-his-own-path man that he’s always been.

“I think a lot of people don’t get it or understand it,” Tebow told Yahoo Sports on Thursday, as he promoted the 25th annual Allstate AFCA Good Works Team made up of college football players who demonstrate “good works’ in their communities far beyond the field.

“They say, ‘Why? Why not go to a different position in football?’ ” Tebow continued. “It’s because it’s not the game of football. It’s what you love doing in it. For me, it was the position of quarterback. And for me, now it’s pursuing what’s in my heart and what I want to go after, being the best baseball player I can be.”

In short, if he couldn’t be a quarterback, then he no longer wanted to be a football player. His love was with the position, not the game. His motivation came from the challenge of the specific job, not staying in the sport by any means necessary and certainly not by doing whatever people expected him to do or they think they would have done under similar circumstances.

“By nature I’m a people person,” Tebow said. “And I like making people happy. As far as pursuing your dreams and your passions, you have to do what is in your heart, not what other people want you to do. And that’s where I think, it’s tough, but you’ve got to choose your passion, you’ve got to choose your heart more than what people want you to do. And that’s what I’ve tried to do.”

Many had boxed Tebow into a clichéd definition: If he is a devout Christian (and he is) and a great teammate on championship teams (and he was), then he must also adhere to the supposedly conservative value of sacrificing all individual preference for the wishes of authority and the pursuit of dominance, a concept rooted deep in the ethos of American Puritanism.

What do you mean he won’t do anything for the team? What do you mean he won’t do anything to continue to play football? What do you mean he’d rather walk away unless he can play the game on his terms, at his chosen position?

The United States is a comment section of a nation these days, forever trying to define everyone and everything simply. Conservative or liberal. Republican or Democrat. Trump or Clinton.

It turns out Tim Tebow has been holding a gray crayon, coloring outside the lines this entire time.

He isn’t acting like a football player is supposed to act, where making the NFL is everything and winning games is the only thing. Of course, he’s also built his life to have the freedom of choice. Football isn’t his only way to make money and money isn’t his only, or even a top, motivation. Not playing football doesn’t hurt anyone. His charitable foundation is as big as ever; that’s what brings him joy.

“Helping people,” he said.

It turns out he didn’t just want to be a guy on the team. He wanted to be THE guy on the team. If that couldn’t happen, then suddenly the hits, the risk of injury, the potential concussions, the training, the time, the whatever, it wasn’t worth it. So he quit. Is that selfish? Is that admirable?

Just like with everything else with Tebow, you can take it or leave it, support him or not, attempt to understand or just make fun of him.

It’s his life. It’s always been his life.

“The two things I loved so much in sports was hitting a baseball and quarterbacking,” Tebow said. “Because both were so hard, because both were so tough. In football they are counting on you to win the game for your team in the end. Quarterback is the only position where they count the record. The record counts for you. So it’s tough.

“And hitting, if you go 3 for 10 it’s a really good thing. I just love those two things.”

Sports are not everything to him. Everything is doing those two things – the individual challenge of running an offense or hitting a curve – and those two things alone.

“I got a chance to pursue football and really live out my dream as a quarterback and there were highs and lows with that,” Tebow said. “And now I get to do that with baseball. I’m excited about that.”

He may never make it as a baseball player, may never hit 3 for 10, not in the minors, not in the majors. He doesn’t care. He’s content with that. It’s about the attempt. It’s about the gift of being able to do it his way.

Everyone saw Tim Tebow as Christian conservative football star, the purest distilled example of some kind of ultra All-American alpha dog, establishment-first athlete. Clear eyes. Full hearts. Etc.

Turns out that wasn’t him. Not all of him. Turns out that if you paid close enough attention, that never was him. Turns out he’s a lot more than that, a guy who knows what he wants and won’t compromise, even if that’s what everyone expected him to do, even if that’s what everyone would have cheered him for doing.

It turns out he’s just Tim, a baseball player now, but otherwise the same as he’s always been.

♫ just tim ♪

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVAL-cGCOfY

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/17661000/tim-tebow-hits-home-run-first-pitch-first-instructional-league-game-new-york-mets

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ec/67/3a/ec673ab67d552f698d76e1dcb3798e24.jpg

tim teeball

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Nen74d_M--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/r9setifldik8ztspzkzm.jpg
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--nb3-1b5W--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/miai1mswxlnlmkcn5hxp.png

lmao

credit for that goes to a deadspin commenter

ok i give up i'm all in on tebow

jk

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. — Tim Tebow is still looking for his first hit with the Scottsdale Scorpions. But on Wednesday night he reached base, drove in a run and got his jersey dirty in his second game in the Arizona Fall League.

Tebow, playing left field and batting seventh in the order, walked in the bottom of the second and got his first RBI in the fourth on a fielder’s choice.

Runners were at first and third when Tebow hit a grounder to the second baseman, who threw to the shortstop for the force as Tebow beat the relay throw to first and the runner scored from third.

Later in the inning, Tebow was thrown out on a feet-first slide at home plate on a fielder’s choice and fans cheered as he rose to his feet in a dirt-streaked uniform.

"Played hard today, ' 'Scorpions manager Tom Goodwin said of Tebow.

he hasn't hit the ball out of the infield in three games

your acting attorney general of the united states of america

Am I the only one that, if I owned a NFL team, would trade for @TimTebow ?

— Matt Whitaker 🇺🇸 (@MattWhitaker46) March 19, 2012

:(