I wish Drew Bledsoe would punch Brady in the nuts.
Discus this and the rest of the awful, awful hype machine. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/tombrady1.gif
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link
BTW no way is Plaxico as big a part of the Giants jump this year as Barber for the simple fact that Eli and Plaxico need to practice together a little more during the off-season.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
but anyway, brady. yeah he's great, but i'm sick of reading columns where some guy will say, "he's clearly the best quarterback in the league!", when at this point he's got one guy ahead of him (Manning) and two guys charging fast (Palmer and Roethlisberger) in the AFC. i suppose they don't have the "intangibles", though.
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link
*espn fetish matt leinert to thread
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link
If you go onto some of the ESPN football boards, there are always a dozen guys from the Boston area starting threads about how Brady is so much better than Manning because HE WINS THE BIG GAMES...never mind the fact that he played with the most consistently good defense in years.
Guess what, the defense got too hobbled to hold big O teams and the Pats got steamrolled by the Chargers, Colts and KC. I'll give the Pats that big shutout win against the Bucs, as it was impressive, but the only reason they are in the playoffs is that they went 5-1 in the worse division in the AFC.
We will get to see how much the NE defense has really improved over the past few weeks starting on Sunday.
I think all of the people saying the Pats want to play J-Ville, might think twice this weekend. J-Ville's defense is mean and nasty, especially on the line.
I think I said it before around here, but Tom Brady is the new Terry Bradshaw, a good QB that was given greatness for being on a great team. I still think NE would have won nearly as much with Bledsoe and would have won everything and not missed the playoffs the one year if Manning was the QB.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link
As the only female that I know of on this board, I call shenanigans on this statement as I'd fuck either Manning brother, Roethlisberger, Palmer, Favre (despite him being a candidate for the old folks home), Flutie (ditto, and don't debate me on this "still decent" thing cos wtf was that drop kicking thing, don't argue with that) and possibly even Plummer (debatable) before I'd do Brady! He kind of has that air of douchebaggery Cap'n Frat-Boy-Fuck-Anythin about him, and also his iTunes playlist was shit.
I think the "New England would've won with Bledsoe" is a good argument, and one Bledsoe probably thinks about a lot, while he's stabbing his Brady voodoo doll in the nuts.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― D.McN. (Haikunym), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link
And yeah, Marino's secret lair of gay qbs is kind of unnerving, also for the fact that he keeps his tv IN HIS CLOSET. With his baretta, I assume.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― I GUARONTEE ::cajun voice:: (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link
manning: 93.5brady: 88.5
SO THERE YOU HAVE IT MANNING IS FIVE BETTER OF SOMETHING OR OTHER
for the record i would fuck leftwhich. something about those west virginia chubbies.
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― I GUARONTEE ::cajun voice:: (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link
bledsoe just lies there - we all know this. kordell's crying before and during too i bet. garcia looks like an old canadian whore there, like you'd pick up in alberta, a 'frontier whore'.
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link
WTF does the QB rating even mean? It seems like some kind of mystical number, I mean isn't a perfect rating something like 187.3 or whatever? I mean wtf kind of "perfect rating" is it when it involves decimals and odd numbers?
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link
david carr: hung
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link
even with this title?!?!???!?
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― I GUARONTEE ::cajun voice:: (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link
no
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link
plus: 3 RINGS.
Plus: receeding hairline
massive x-post.
― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link
AHA -- origins of the Terry Bradshaw comparison REVEALED!
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
actually, maybe roethlisberger should be mvp, as the steelers inexplicably completely fall apart in every way when he doesn't play.
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link
This thread scares th' hell outta me.
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 07:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Is Tom Brady going to Halloween as:a) House, MDb) the guy from the Killersc) James Spader?
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― I GUARONTEE ::cajun voice:: (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― I GUARONTEE ::cajun voice:: (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link
as for shaq, i haven't read the book yet! i totally wanna buy it tho.
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link
1) the Pats *have* been widely disrespected at various points during their run. Exhibit A: widely considered to be the underdogs as the two-time champs playing at home in last year's playoffs against Indy, despite having dominated them for years.
2) the part about people giving up on them earlier in the season is certainly true. It's one thing to look at a 4-4 team with loads of injuries and say that they're done for even if they make the playoffs. But there was a lot of talk of the "even if they get healthy, this team can't win the SB" variety, which is unbelievably dumb considering they already HAVE won the SB with that team. Three times.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 5 January 2006 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 5 January 2006 00:06 (eighteen years ago) link
OTOH, he still drives his 1992 Corolla. They don't even make Corollas anymore!
― c(''c) (Leee), Thursday, 5 January 2006 01:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 5 January 2006 01:34 (eighteen years ago) link
I hope Jacksonville beats the shit out of them.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 5 January 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 5 January 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Saturday, 7 January 2006 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 8 January 2006 09:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mingus Dew (Mingus Dew), Monday, 9 January 2006 01:27 (eighteen years ago) link
I think Kevin Faulk is the freaking secret weapon for the Pats success. That guy has had so many big plays turning 2 yard screens into big yardage it isn't funny. Faulk is the prototype of what a team wants with a 3rd down back.
Brady has been the perfect QB to go with that defense, as he has only thrown 3 interceptions in all of those playoff games. I'll give you that is impressive. Brady has been good by just not fucking up and having the luxury of never having to really air it out because they are behind.
It is more than Brady. They had a kicker who hit all of the big shots. The Pats got lucky on one of the oddest calls in the history of the game against the Raiders. They got a couple of TDs from their D, a couple of returns broke free (how they beat the Steelers once). Criminy, they won all three SB's by a field goal! It isn't like the Niners or Cowboys beating the Bills or Broncos by 40.
― earlnash, Monday, 9 January 2006 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, sports media obsessed with winners non-shocker of the millenium. See: Derek Jeter's press vs Derek Jeter's talent.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 9 January 2006 03:21 (eighteen years ago) link
The New England offense is terribly overrated and people suck their dick constantly, specifically Tom Brady's, is I believe the premise of the actual argument here.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't think the NE offense is overrated -- last year they were 3rd in points scored in the NFL.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link
One could argue that Peyton Manning has received just as much media fawning over the past few years as Brady.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Don't YOU still give a shit about jeter, ally? Or have you gone turncoat national league on us now that you're down in the stix?
― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 04:37 (eighteen years ago) link
But plenty of it has been "can't get it done in the big games", a la Marino and Elway, whereas Brady is seemingly always "the next Joe Montana."
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 05:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 05:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Sunday, 15 January 2006 05:32 (eighteen years ago) link
THANK GOD FOR YOU DENVER. I WILL KEEP YOU IN MY PRAYERS FOREVER AND EVER.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Sunday, 15 January 2006 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link
man, I am sad!
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/7403/patsbroncos021dw.jpg
― dar1a g (daria g), Sunday, 15 January 2006 06:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Getting behind and having to lob deep passes into coverage to make something happen is not as easy as it seems, no?
Welcome to the world that most QBs live within golden boy. It is a whole lot easier game when your D clamps down the other team and gives you choice field position.
Just wait two years Tom when that Pat's D is really fucking old and you are like oldman Farve throwing every third ball forty yards deep to some guy from South Dakota State praying to try and make something happen.
Look kiddo, I had to lead TD drives to win Superbowls, not leave it up to my kicker.
Get it, you are not me.
yours truly,
Joe Montana
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 15 January 2006 06:09 (eighteen years ago) link
The bottom line is that the Pats have played well over this stretch, but have also gotten almost every break. Tonight every break went against them. Six turnovers is a hell of a lot, and it was weird to see Brady through a pick, Faulk put the ball on the ground, Brown put the ball on the ground, Vinny missing a chipper, etc. It was the bizarro Patriots.
Brady tonight looked like Peyton has looked in all of the Colts' losses to the Pats... skittish, pissed off, frustrated, continuously hassled, and yet still putting up a decent game.
For me, Brady is Derek Jeter. He has been given the reputation of the ultimate winner. He's a valuable guy, and certainly one of the five best quarterbacks in the NFL, but Derek Jeter and Tom Brady both become scrappy role players when they don't have talent around them, or the talent doesn't perform, and both of them are as capable of making big mistakes and gaffes as anyone.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 15 January 2006 06:11 (eighteen years ago) link
So I was 2/3 correct = mostly correct?
Actually, I think it's 1/2 Brady-style "he's great" fawning, 2/5 "how do you stop Peyton Manning???? How????" hyperbolic chest-beating, and 1/10 "when will he do shit?" sulking (always at the end of the season).
I can't argue about Simms' dick-sucking. All I could think about was "ugh, this is exactly what it's like watching the Yankees play in the postseason."
FUCK TURNOVERS. Bellichick never shows emotion on the sidelines and he was throwing a tantrum after Faulk's fumble.
If Denver play like that that against Indy (or maybe even Pittsburgh), they'll get killed. You can't put up nearly zero offense for three quarters against Peyton Manning et al and wait for turnovers in order to win.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 15 January 2006 06:19 (eighteen years ago) link
Beisel: 1978Colvin: 1977Green: 1979Klecko: 1981Hobbs: 1983Gay: 1982Poteat: 1977Samuel: 1981Seymour: 1979Vrabel: 1975Ty Warren: 1981Wilfork: 1981E. Wilson: 1980
Hard to call that an old defense. Sure, Bruschi and Harrison and McGinest are old, but there's a lot of young talent there.
Not to mention that Branch, Givens, Davis, Watson, Graham, most of the O line, are all about the same age... somewhere between 1978 and 1981. This is not an old team.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 15 January 2006 06:22 (eighteen years ago) link
That comparison doesn't work ... a QB can't run, throw, and catch the ball himself. If the "talent doesn't perform", you'll lose no matter you have at QB.
Derek Jeter never carried the Yankee lineup, with the possible exception of 1999, his best (and MVP-worthy) season. Talent-wise, the Yankee lineup during their run >>>>> the Pats offense during their run.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 15 January 2006 06:24 (eighteen years ago) link
I hear you saying this, and I agree to a point, but it isn't what I hear from EVERY sportscaster, every talk show host, etc. The adolation in the press and from many fans is very similar, and might i also add that the shortstop is often called the quarterback position in baseball.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 15 January 2006 06:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Don't tell Kordell Stewart!
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 15 January 2006 06:29 (eighteen years ago) link
Brady = Favre only when he starts throwing 50-yd INT's into triple coverage in the first quarter of 0-0 games rather than the fourth quarter of 27-13 games. If and when that happens, I fully expect he'll get the Favre treatment from broadcasters, unfortunately.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 15 January 2006 06:33 (eighteen years ago) link
I meant Brown's fumble ... but anyway, I watched some highlights and was reminded about how Tom Brady hadn't lost a playoff game since he was the catcher for his high school baseball team. That's fairly remarkable, but if that's not ammo for the Brady-haters I don't know what is. Even Favre didn't get hyped for playing basketball or backgammon in high school. What's next, are they going to dig up his twelve straight A's in fourth grade spelling?
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 15 January 2006 07:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Huffing, puffing, sprinting down the sideline, Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey made the interception that put an end to Denver's years of playoff misery and finished off New England's dominating dynasty.
The record shows that Bailey got caught and knocked down at the 1-yard line after his 100-yard return Saturday night. But his interception of Tom Brady did plenty of damage, setting up the game-changing touchdown in Denver's 27-13 victory over the defending Super Bowl champions.
"It was a great play by me," Bailey said.
Sure was.
It was the highlight of the first playoff game in the history of Invesco Field, which resulted in Denver's first postseason win since John Elway's last game, the 1998 Super Bowl.
Next week in the AFC championship game, the Broncos will play the winner of Sunday's meeting between Indianapolis and Pittsburgh.
New England (11-7), meanwhile, will go home, three wins short of NFL history.
Trying to become the first team to win three straight Super Bowls, the Patriots simply didn't have enough to overcome Denver's steady play, a few bad breaks or their own five turnovers. That was one fewer than they had during their entire, record-setting 10-game playoff winning streak that ended at the hands of the Broncos (14-3).
"When you lose, you want to go down fighting," Brady said. "You want to go down playing your best and we didn't do that. We made it easy for them."
It didn't get really easy until Bailey changed the game.
The Patriots were moving the ball well in the third quarter. They cut a 10-3 deficit to four points on a field goal and had moved quickly to the Denver 5 for what could have been the go-ahead score. But on third down from the 5, Bailey stepped in front Troy Brown in the end zone for the pick. He sprinted down the sideline and when he felt Kevin Faulk swipe at him helplessly about 70 yards into the trek, he thought he had it cinched.
Champions don't go down easily, though, and tight end Ben Watson wasn't quitting. Watson took an angle, and with Bailey slowing and bringing the ball down to his hip, Watson got there, knocked Bailey down and sent the ball flying out of bounds at the 1.
Or maybe through the end zone.
With Bailey lying on his back, grimacing and gasping for air, Belichick challenged the call, saying the ball flew out of the end zone, not at the 1, which would have given New England the ball back on a touchback.
"It was a great effort on his part," Belichick said of Watson.
But did it go out through the end zone?
"Go ask them," the coach said of the officials, who also set up Denver's first touchdown on a questionable pass-interference call in the end zone against Asante Samuel.
It was the kind of call a championship team might have gotten. With no decisive TV angle, though, the Pats didn't. On the next play, Mike Anderson scored his second 1-yard touchdown of the night and gave Denver a 17-6 lead.
"I never saw the guy coming, but I was going as hard as I could," Bailey said of the longest non-scoring interception return in NFL playoff history.
Not that anybody was questioning him. Nor is there any more doubt about who won in the blockbuster trade before the 2004 season, when the Broncos sent Clinton Portis to Washington for Bailey and a second-round pick.
Portis and the Redskins got knocked out of the playoffs Saturday. Bailey and the Broncos are moving on.
"I don't care about what happens tomorrow," Bailey said. "It doesn't matter if it's Pittsburgh or Indy. We got this one."
Trailing 17-6, always reliable Adam Vinatieri, the difference in all three of New England's three-point Super Bowl victories, missed a 42-yard field goal. Shortly after, Brown fumbled a punt return to set up Jake Plummer's lone touchdown pass of the night, a 4-yarder to Rod Smith for a 24-6 lead.
Plummer finished 15-for-26 for 197 yards with the touchdown and one interception.
And while the Denver quarterback won't be mistaken for Elway, or even Brady -- who threw for 341 yards in defeat -- that was the point: As has been proven all year, Plummer doesn't have to do it all for the Broncos to win.
There's the running game, held in check for most of this night, but good enough to grind out 96 yards and punch the ball in under duress at the goal line. There's the defense; Al Wilson made no fewer than four big plays in the first half to keep the game scoreless for the first 26 minutes.
Special teams were good, too, creating two turnovers, including one off a fumble forced by kicker Todd Sauerbrun, which led to a field goal and a 10-3 lead.
After Bailey's big play, and the non-reversal on Belichick's challenge, the coach stood there in his gray sweatshirt, looking nonplussed, as he's been throughout New England's four seasons of excellence. Behind him, though, the Patriots were coming apart, at least a little.
TV cameras showed Patriots linebacker Willie McGinest shoving teammate Larry Izzo away during an argument, while Mike Vrabel tried to calm McGinest down -- hardly the kind of poise they showed as they made their run toward history.
Meanwhile, the Broncos put on the finishing touches and got ready for next week.
Their fans, dressed in orange and loud as they've been in the five-year history of a stadium many thought was too cushy and comfortable for raucousness, chanted, "Let's Go Pittsburgh," hoping a Steelers win Sunday will bring their team back for another game.
If Indy wins, though, the Broncos will return to the site of their playoff demise the last two seasons, by a combined score of 90-34.
After last season's loss, a 49-24 embarrassment, Denver coach Mike Shanahan insisted the Broncos weren't too far away from being Super Bowl contenders. Lots of people snickered. Very few are snickering now, especially not the Patriots.
― gear (gear), Sunday, 15 January 2006 08:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 06:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 02:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 02:43 (seventeen years ago) link
1) He has an enormous porn collection and no problem telling ESPN he has it (hellooooo ILX-type dude)2) He likes Coldplay
From points 1 & 2, I say horseshoe OTM.
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 04:42 (seventeen years ago) link
ew, he TOLD ESPN THAT? man, can't we just return to the days when everyone pretended pro football was a "family sport"? INAPPROPRIATE!
and yeah, I am also a girl and have frequently been mystified by the "Brady is a hottie mchothot" press he gets. maybe he's ostensibly straight dudes' idea of what's hot, but he leaves me cold.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 04:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link
-- Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyza...) (webmail), January 3rd, 2006 2:11 PM. (allyzay) (link) (admin) (userip)"
can we replace all of ally's posts with this
― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 06:21 (seventeen years ago) link
"Tom Brady is a good QB, but I think he is really the Nu-Brett Farve for all of the talking heads, as he is TOUGH and plays the GAME THE RIGHT WAY. No sireee, Tommyboy doesn't need to cheat and run no huddle offenses calling plays at the line, he just gets in there and gets dirty. Brady led the league in yards, but he still only finished sixth in QB Rating. Brady is also a screen passer, the Pats have never really had much of a deep strike passing game. The dink and dunk game is effective, but it isn't nearly as cool and throwing da' bomb."
(conveniently ignoring all my posts in this thread~~~)
― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link
that's rediculous. the pats haven't used the screen in 3 years. they employed it when they realized they had 86 year old antoine smith running the ball and that throwing a screen for 4 yards was better than the 2.2 yards they could get out of their running back. pats got away from it when they acquired dillon. they drafted deion branch and bethel johnson to stretch the field then added gabriel and chad jackson to take their places on the roster. i think brady's ypa was maybe a half yard less than manning last year?
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link
I read this as a riff on the way commentators talk about Brady. The play by play guy will say what just happened, and then John Q. Color Schmuck will say one of the above random comments about Brady and the Pats offensive scheme, as if that's what they do all the time and what makes them so great.
― FACTS: I'M A WAITER (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link
bad nfl announcers, nothing shocking there. fox had brian baldinger matched up with a relatively sober pat summerall (and i swear to god i thought i'd remembered reading that he'd died) for the bears/49ers game this weekend. my favorite moment was when summerall said "You have to give the 49ers credit." followed by 19 seconds of dead air from baldinger.
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link
a) Finding the stadiumb) Wearing their jock straps inside their uniformsc) Losing by only 31d) All of the above
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― lk (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― lk (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link
time to take the keys away from pat.
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link
ALERT: Dick Stockton is one good fart away from being totally in the booth as well.
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link
i like how nfl network has replaced Playbook or whatever it was called with brian baldinger chilling out in his office.
― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 2 November 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Friday, 3 November 2006 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 3 November 2006 01:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 3 November 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― lk (lawrence kansas), Friday, 3 November 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Friday, 3 November 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 3 November 2006 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link
Filed Under: Exclusives!
splashnews_ihpla010905f_01.jpg27th Street in Chelsea, also known as club row, suddenly turned into Wisteria Lane on Saturday night when the police closed the block down (and we're not sure why). While chaos prevailed outside, inside the confines of Bungalow 8 a coterie of celebs mingled (or attempted to) with each other.
Seen inside the club: Paris Hilton, Tom Brady, Greg Littley, Scott Sartiano, Richie Akiva and Mary-Kate Olsen.
What exactly is MK doing in New York? Weren't we under the impression that she was going to be going to school in California this fall? I guess the tabs were wrong.
"Mary-Kate was there without the Giant," a source tells us. "She was hanging out with her artsy friends and at one point Tom Brady came up to her and was trying to hit on her."
Tom Brady and Mary-Kate Olsen??? Maybe he thought she has a thing for taller guys?!
"Mary-Kate was so not interested, and at one point she told Tom, 'Do you want a drink? The cocktail waitress is over there!'" Meow. We are lovin' the new bitchy MK!
The Patriots quarterback must be newly single - or have an open relationship with actress Bridget Moynahan - because earlier in the evening the pretty football player was seen getting quite cozy with an unidentified woman at the Maritime.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ lol lol
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link
i expect people to explain ALL of these images to me, btw
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link
college students sometimes ingest drugs.
that's all i got.
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― lk (lawrence kansas), Friday, 3 November 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― lk (lawrence kansas), Friday, 3 November 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― FACTS: I'M A WAITER (TOMBOT), Monday, 6 November 2006 05:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 6 November 2006 05:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 November 2006 13:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 6 November 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― LISTEN U TURBO CROUTON (TOMBOT), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pierce/061108&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos2
― gear (gear), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― If you fuck with Jimmy Mod, you call down the thunder (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Sunday, 12 November 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― LISTEN U TURBO CROUTON (TOMBOT), Sunday, 12 November 2006 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Sunday, 12 November 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2662075
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 01:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 05:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 06:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― lk (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link
"I think he's been able to play in every game, so you'd have to ask him that," Belichick said of Brady,
while conveniently forgetting his own rules that prohibit players from discussing injuries with the press.
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link
Matt Cassel was the backup for Brady!?
ok so the guy has 15 Super Bowl rings but make no mistake he sleeps outside of Testeverde's home in the bushes just to catch a glimpse of him as he retrieves his morning paper
― lk (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link
he played a lot better in preseason than the world league refugee he was up against. i was just surprised the pats only kept two qb's coming out of camp. i guess the thought was if they lost brady they were f'd in the a anyway so it wouldn't matter if they had to teach someone the plays midway through the season. but i think this says the pats are worried about his shoulder.
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link
http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/BelichickEinstein_bdd.jpg
― lk (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link
Bill Walsh also got three rings.
That's pretty much all I'll say for Belichick, he took this guy nobody thought much of and put him in a system where he could win championships. I don't think I'm the only person who would compare Brady with Montana in terms of dudes who fit their system so well it didn't matter if they were tall enough or strong enough to make scouts like them, they won super bowls anyway.
It's the Pats new WRs and -flashback- better pass rushing in the league overall that are taking them inexorably out of contention. IMO.
― LISTEN U TURBO CROUTON (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― get yr coat luv uve jes bin pulld (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 16 November 2006 00:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― get yr coat luv uve jes bin pulld (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 16 November 2006 00:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ice Cream Electric (Ice Cream Electric), Thursday, 16 November 2006 00:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 16 November 2006 03:31 (seventeen years ago) link
http://withleather.uproxx.com/?p=10113
or he can suck a-rod's dick instead lol!
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link
oh WithLeatherpaws
― David R., Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
I dunno why this took me literally years to figure out but Tom Brady is actually Drimble Wedge. Of Drimble Wedge and The Vegetations.
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 04:00 (fifteen years ago) link
did the OP get edited? i dont remember that thing about his voter registration
― ಥ﹏ಥ (cankles), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 04:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I have my sympathies with registering unaffiliated in fact..
― claudia schefter (daria-g), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 04:26 (fifteen years ago) link
what are you talking about
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link
ayo schef
Sunday, October 19, 2008 6:23 PM Site and what has been permanently banned from I Love NFL. Sunday, October 19, 2008 6:23 PM Site and what has been permanently banned from I Love NFL.
what's goin on wit this
― ಥ﹏ಥ (cankles), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link
no interest in allowing someone coming onto the board posting things that have nothing to do with the threads at hand just to be a shit? i'm not the mod that was deleting his posts.
also fucking e-mail me/other mods privately from this point on on this subject because that has fuck all to do with this thread. only warning!
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
also WAHT are you two talkin about seriously
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link
rip
― mookieproof, Saturday, 29 January 2022 19:42 (two years ago) link
times sure change
― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 30 January 2022 20:03 (two years ago) link
Had to retire to give the other guys a chance.
― TO BE A JAZZ SINGER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SCAT (Jazzbo), Saturday, 5 February 2022 00:33 (two years ago) link