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emoni bates is playing for memphis this year but wont be old enough for next years draft, do not recall seeing that before

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 November 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

seems like there's no consensus on the no 1 pick which is pretty interesting, paolo banchero seems like leader in the clubhouse as of now but i see various boards that have other guys at no. 1. he just had prob his best game of the season vs FSU tho, putting up 20-12-7 on 6-11 shooting and making tons of plays down the stretch, nice touch on his passes. i wonder how he'll test athletically, you don't necessarily see overwhelming athleticism in these clips, but he's skilled, poised, and very strong, some real men amongst boys plays. i don't have a great feel for what position ppl think he will play defensively, he's either a positionless fever dream or an exploitable tweener, i can't really tell. if he could passably play center he could be a monster but idk if that's in his future. he's a 34% shooter from deep and shoots 76% from the line, w/ his size the tools are there for a really great offensive player, consistent double-doubles w/ potential for some 20-10-5 type of seasons. feel like ben simmons is a decent comp and what you're giving up in athleticism w/ banchero you gain in overall offensive skill, especially in terms of scoring, as well as just overall oomph on the game. some good clips of his passing in the NC state game from last week, he has a calmness about him in the way that he reads the floor that feels very functional, not preternatural necessarily but if his court vision continues to grow along w/ the rest of his game he will likely be very hard to defend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygtHdAPNNo8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ncXSRvEM3M

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 January 2022 05:56 (two years ago) link

everyone seems to have holmgren banchero and jabari smith in some order as the top three, i think i still like holmgren just cause he has that combo of freakish body and great feel for the game that nba stars are made of, smith is your prototypical super athletic very big wing i can def see why teams would be very stoked on him, banchero has the most developed game but maybe lacks some of the elite athleticism length and so forth that could make him an absolute top guy idk

lag∞n, Friday, 21 January 2022 12:13 (two years ago) link

jabari is my #1 bc of the Big Wing thing, thats the most important position in hoops rn, chet worries me bc he just looks like a guy who will miss a lot of time, prove me wrong chet

if the spurs dont launch into the lottery, i like keegan murray from iowa lot. he's older (21 i think) but he's got a pretty nba-ready game from the looks of things

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 21 January 2022 15:46 (two years ago) link

but who am i kidding the spurs are gonna draft another 6'5" combo guard

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 21 January 2022 15:46 (two years ago) link

those top 3 guys all seem to have distinct strengths and weaknesses, no clear front-runner so far. will be interesting to see how it plays out based on their college seasons.

call all destroyer, Friday, 21 January 2022 16:08 (two years ago) link

I think Jabari is overrated right now and people are overthinking the chet thing. Players don’t get injured because they’re skinny.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 21 January 2022 16:14 (two years ago) link

I worry Banchero will turn out to be Michael Beasley

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 21 January 2022 16:16 (two years ago) link

I think Jabari is overrated right now and people are overthinking the chet thing. Players don’t get injured because they’re skinny.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, January 21, 2022 10:14 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

um yes they do!!!!!

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 21 January 2022 16:25 (two years ago) link

penny, shaun livingston, kd, shawn bradley, manute bol, bol bol, pls dont think this is just me spreading more pro-fat propaganda

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 21 January 2022 16:27 (two years ago) link

you know who doesnt miss many games OR meals

jokic

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 21 January 2022 16:28 (two years ago) link

I worry Banchero will turn out to be Michael Beasley

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, January 21, 2022 11:16 AM (one hour ago)

yeah i can see that. marvin bagley & jahlil okafor two other duke guys w/o great athleticism who just dominated w/ size in college and then flamed out. beasley only averaged 1.6 apg in college tho, paolo is at double that, and he's bigger. also michael beasley who has his head screwed on straight & plays the game less selfishly could've been a good player albeit not a multi time all star or anything

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 January 2022 18:24 (two years ago) link

i think i would prob pick chet no 1, in the event that you get any of the evan mobley skill set it will prob be worth it

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 January 2022 18:25 (two years ago) link

the other thought i had when watching banchero was "what if obi toppin was good and didn't move like an abe lincoln impersonator on stilts"

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 January 2022 18:32 (two years ago) link

lmao

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 21 January 2022 18:34 (two years ago) link

jabari smith def seems like a top 3 pick to me, top 5 at absolute worst. if there's any jayson tatum out of the top group it would be him. his spot up shot is a bit slow to me, and the way the ball comes off his hand when he shoots FTs seems a bit weird. he does have a nice fadeaway midrange game tho, and his hands are very active on defense. 7' 2" wingspan. he's another one where i wonder how he tests athletically, you don't see him just killing guys at the rim in his clips... paging jayson tatum. he also only has a season high of four assists this year. i think he's prob below chet and banchero for me

clip of him putting up 25-7-1 w/ 4 blocks and 2 steals on the road vs alabama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBUYA1BxaME

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 January 2022 18:40 (two years ago) link

chet's shot is so smooth. w/ his defensive potential i feel like he has to go number 1, at worst i feel like you're getting a porzingis type player w/ a better shot and a body potentially less conducive to leg injuries. at best you're potentially getting like karl towns crossed w/ evan mobley. in between maybe he's chris bosh w/ more rim protection. idk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ZpisXk6R8

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 January 2022 19:16 (two years ago) link

yeah i like chet too, with his freakish arms crazy feel for the game and having all the offensive skills he should go 1 imho, you're potentially getting like karl towns crossed w/ evan mobley exactly he pretty clearly has the highest ceiling of the top guys, the reason hes not the consensus #1 right now is prob because hes not really featured on his team cause he plays next to an older player of the year candidate and that evaluators tend to underrate feel for the game being a true baller and so forth due to it being highly intangible

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 21:09 (two years ago) link

chets got the juice, the it factor

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 21:09 (two years ago) link

if jabari smith had an off the bounce game i could see the argument... but he doesnt

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 21:12 (two years ago) link

feel like chet will be one of those guys who have their aggressiveness questioned leading up to the draft drop a couple few spots then just come in and start doing insane things from day one in the nba

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 21:16 (two years ago) link

i feel like evan mobley is pretty strong proof of concept for chet, almost feels like it's lining up for it to be the perfect year to take a guy like this no 1 overall. chet maybe not as great defensively i mean mobley seems like a phenom but chet is far more developed as a shooter. w/ his shooting form/touch and natural shot blocking ability i just feel like he's the kind of high floor/high ceiling prospect you should be aiming for w/ a no 1 pick. i'm trying to imagine the worst case outcome for him if he has even average health for a big man. myles turner? jarren jackson jr? his overall feel just seems far superior to those guys and he's taller and he's a better shooter etc

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 January 2022 21:22 (two years ago) link

and chet might even be mobley on D, i mean hes a defensive star

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 21:26 (two years ago) link

People are overthinking this, Chet is clearly the guy. Jabari has a really raw game that requires a lot of projection to see in the nba, Chet can shoot and handle.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 22:46 (two years ago) link

tbf jabari can shoot good but yeah hes pretty raw

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 22:55 (two years ago) link

i hope yall are right abt slenderman

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 27 January 2022 01:02 (two years ago) link

CHET HOLMGREN WITH 11 POINTS IN UNDER TWO MINUTES 🤯 pic.twitter.com/YBeBtOP71q

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) February 4, 2022



man his shot is so pure. also sandwiched in there him blocking the other center right at the rim and going the entire length of the court with the ball to score

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 February 2022 05:07 (two years ago) link

his last 4 games

23-12 4 blocks on 9-12 shooting, 3-5 from three
12-11 on 4-6 shooting, 4-6 from three
21-9 3 blocks on 7-8 shooting, 3-3 from three
22-9 4 blocks on 7-10 shooting, 2-4 from three

shooting 63/46/74 on the season

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 February 2022 05:16 (two years ago) link

ok so MAYBE with modern medicine factored in he shd be #1

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 5 February 2022 02:19 (two years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 February 2022 02:20 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

chet looks like a phenom

Another day at the office for projected top pick Chet Holmgren: 21 PTS (12 FGAs), 15 REBS, 6 BLK, 3 STL in a win over USF. No other player in the draft who can do the things he can on both ends. Going to make a lot of his naysayers look silly. No. 1 prospect in this 2022 class. pic.twitter.com/BvnV51J04S

— Mike Schmitz (@Mike_Schmitz) February 25, 2022

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 February 2022 08:25 (two years ago) link

dare i say kevin durant but an even better defender vibes??

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 February 2022 08:26 (two years ago) link

Chet Holmgren tonight:

- 21 points
- 15 rebounds
- 6 blocks
- 3 steals
- 2 3-pointers

It’s the 2nd time this season he’s had at least 20 points, 15 boards, 5 blocks and 2 3-pointers in a game.

No other Division I player over the last decade has done that twice.

— Jared Berson (@JaredBerson) February 25, 2022

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 February 2022 08:27 (two years ago) link

Chet Holmgren of @ZagMBB has played 5 true road games in his career. He is averaging 18.6 points, 14.6 rebounds and 4.2 blocks in those games.

He's the only Division I player in the last 25 years to average 18/14/4 over any span of 5 road games (let alone his first 5).

— Stats By STATS (@StatsBySTATS) February 25, 2022

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 February 2022 08:31 (two years ago) link

it was a weird time because of COVID and I wasn't doing much but I'll never stop kicking myself for not going to see him play in high school, his HS was walking distance from my house

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 February 2022 14:03 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this guy has very long arms

Best Euroleague game of the season for 17-year old Victor Wembanyama with 14 points, 5 rebounds, 5 blocks, 2 assists, 2 steals and a road win. The 7-3, projected No. 1 pick in 2023 showed his fantastic mobility, length, skill and feel for the game against high-level competition. pic.twitter.com/VSWdaV0AMq

— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) March 23, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:00 (two years ago) link

dont think ive seen someone that tall get down in a stance like that

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:02 (two years ago) link

feel like he has some "deer running on ice" vibes too him but he looks like he's gonna be a complete monster on defense

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:05 (two years ago) link

draft xpress/espn guy called him the best prospect hes ever seen

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:10 (two years ago) link

i feel like chet is more coordinated and has a better shot but i can see why someone would look at him and think he's an ultimate freak of nature

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:11 (two years ago) link

i just watched a video of him and chet playing against each other and those are some crazy looking guys

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:12 (two years ago) link

At 17 he's not yet accustomed to operating a body with such long arms and legs, let alone perfecting his footwork and his moves. He looks very promising, though. Good timing and vision.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:12 (two years ago) link

chet is crazy skilled but he still has some of that big man stiffness the wembanyamas flexibility is pretty wild, and filling up the box score of a euro league game at 17 is rare, its even more impressive when you consider that with huge guys it usually takes longer to develop

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:20 (two years ago) link

more of that game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7RTU8FtrM0

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:22 (two years ago) link

wembanyama is going to be a lot of fun to watch, sky-high potential

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 March 2022 00:55 (two years ago) link

only thing that worries me, knowing nothing, is hes too tall

lag∞n, Thursday, 24 March 2022 02:19 (two years ago) link

but maybe he can overcome by having the pliancy of a 6-10 guy

lag∞n, Thursday, 24 March 2022 02:20 (two years ago) link

pray 4 kd

Kyrie Irving said the plan is to re-sign with the Nets this summer. Doesn’t want to leave Kevin Durant and wants to build a legacy in Brooklyn with him.

— Alex Schiffer (@Alex__Schiffer) March 26, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 March 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link

a legacy of alienating everyone off the team

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 26 March 2022 16:19 (two years ago) link

The Kings will miss the playoffs for the 16th consecutive season, a new NBA record.

Kings fans deserve better. pic.twitter.com/Yf3MKtAWFQ

— StatMuse (@statmuse) April 4, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 4 April 2022 05:59 (two years ago) link

fire that franchise to the moon

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 4 April 2022 06:00 (two years ago) link

Kings fans deserve better.

citation needed

Clay, Monday, 4 April 2022 06:19 (two years ago) link

lol

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 4 April 2022 06:30 (two years ago) link

they seem like a good bet to make that streak 20 at this point

J0rdan S., Monday, 4 April 2022 06:52 (two years ago) link

When I say Victor Wembanyama is the future of the NBA (if healthy), this is the type of stuff I’m talking about. Not normal agility and skill level. Then add in passing feel + elite defensive versatility and you’ve got a special prospect. Had 25 PTS in Pro A action the other day pic.twitter.com/xkWkiKVKOo

— Mike Schmitz (@Mike_Schmitz) April 4, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 4 April 2022 15:22 (two years ago) link

can he guard the pick n roll tho

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 4 April 2022 15:37 (two years ago) link

hes destroys pick n rolls of grown professional basketball players

lag∞n, Monday, 4 April 2022 15:45 (two years ago) link

I saw a guy named Nickola Jovic in a mock draft. Could get confusing

Heez, Monday, 4 April 2022 16:30 (two years ago) link

if we can survive bojan and bogdan bogdanovic we can do this

lag∞n, Monday, 4 April 2022 16:33 (two years ago) link

in a draft preview i saw somewhere they took pains to explain that joker is NOT a comp for him. anticipating (rightly) that people can't disambiguate similarity of name and basketball skill

tbh while i am very clear on bojan and bogdan being two different dudes, know each's team, playing style, etc, i do always forget which first name goes with which guy

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 4 April 2022 18:26 (two years ago) link

yes please ruin the hornets mike

The Charlotte Hornets are reportedly emerging as potential suitors for a Russell Westbrook trade this off-season.

(via @TheSteinLine) pic.twitter.com/ZAlSQ7LPoj

— ProCity Hoops (@ProCityHoops) April 7, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Thursday, 7 April 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link

no why cmon unless theyre just trying to get some draft picks for hayward in which case ok

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 April 2022 16:25 (two years ago) link

cos russ is a jordan shoe guy

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Thursday, 7 April 2022 16:27 (two years ago) link

funny thing about "the jordan brand" is the annual signature shoe is the preeminent sneaker but no one really fucks with the rest of them

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 April 2022 16:29 (two years ago) link

its weird do they just use all their juice making the one shoe or do they make the other ones crappy on purpose or what

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 April 2022 16:30 (two years ago) link

hmm i was wondering if he would pick up his option

John Wall plans to exercise his $47M player option with the Rockets next season, via @MikeAScotto.

Shocker. (jk) pic.twitter.com/SwTkmwyH6L

— Legion Hoops (@LegionHoops) April 7, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Thursday, 7 April 2022 22:07 (two years ago) link

tillman fertita having to pay john wall $47 million to not play basketball is extremely funny

J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 April 2022 22:21 (two years ago) link

dudes been rehabbed for like 1.5 years just chilling collecting checks lol

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Thursday, 7 April 2022 22:32 (two years ago) link

russ truly one of the great low bb iq superstars

lag∞n, Friday, 8 April 2022 21:06 (two years ago) link

id say hes the goat in that sense.

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Friday, 8 April 2022 21:13 (two years ago) link

yeah maybe so

lag∞n, Friday, 8 April 2022 21:17 (two years ago) link

Ramona Shelburne has one today too - get ready to read a lot about how f'ed this team was

"The reality of the season was that Russ has been in a dark corner, and he doesn't know who to trust or who to believe," a team source said. "Then, if something doesn't go well for him, he backs up a little more.

"There's also guys in the locker room who were so disgruntled about their position that every time something goes bad for Russ, they just find a way to feed the beast.

"Telling him the coaches hate you or the front office is trying to get rid of you. Anything to fuel that monster, and give him an enemy."

love it, the other players on the team fucking with russ and stoking his paranoia. nice healthy culture

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 9 April 2022 03:01 (two years ago) link

Telling him the coaches hate you

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 9 April 2022 03:02 (two years ago) link

you love to see it

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 9 April 2022 03:02 (two years ago) link

good luck to whoever the new guy is

The Sacramento Kings won't bring back interim coach Alvin Gentry and are opening up a search for a new head coach, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) April 11, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 11 April 2022 17:40 (two years ago) link

a blessing in thinly-veiled disguise for Alvin Gentry

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 11 April 2022 17:56 (two years ago) link

gentrys probably best served as an offensive coordinator on a good coaching staff

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 11 April 2022 18:02 (two years ago) link

This might actually be the craziest NBA story of the moment...and that's saying a whole lot https://t.co/6iYlLwszbx

— Jason Valenzuela (@Jayzon481) April 11, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 11 April 2022 18:55 (two years ago) link

he should try reawakening onto a basketball court

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link

that's it, i'm voting for Mo Bamba in the next election

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 11 April 2022 19:04 (two years ago) link

Rob Pelinka was asked why Frank Vogel was fired when he didn’t construct the roster and wasn’t responsible for injuries: “Today is not going to be a day of finger-pointing or unwinding all of the various reasons.”

— Melissa Rohlin (@melissarohlin) April 11, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 11 April 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link

listen here what we're not gonna do today is point the finger at me (lebron) anyone

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 11 April 2022 19:22 (two years ago) link

Russell Westbrook on Frank Vogel: "I'm not sure what his issue was with me."

— Ryan Ward (@RyanWardLA) April 11, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 11 April 2022 21:15 (two years ago) link

...lol

lag∞n, Monday, 11 April 2022 21:16 (two years ago) link

anxiously waiting the full russ presser to drop.

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 11 April 2022 21:28 (two years ago) link

there’s actually no way of knowing what anyone could have thought russ was doing wrong this year

meta💀quest (Clay), Monday, 11 April 2022 21:30 (two years ago) link

haha i need to see this interview asap

When @DanWoikeSports mentions that LeBron and AD said many times throughout the year, "Let Russ be Russ," Russell Westbrook immediately responds: "Yeah, but that wasn't true. Let's be honest."

— Kyle Goon (@kylegoon) April 11, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 11 April 2022 21:38 (two years ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Monday, 11 April 2022 21:38 (two years ago) link

Lakers' Gone Fishin' through the years... pic.twitter.com/A9eZyZbjDu

— HoopsHype (@hoopshype) April 11, 2022

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 11 April 2022 21:40 (two years ago) link

listen i gave him some champagne that he didnt know i sent cos im a good guy... and yet he hated me

Russell Westbrook discusses his relationship with Frank Vogel. pic.twitter.com/pfVfUVY5GO

— Spectrum SportsNet (@SpectrumSN) April 11, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 11 April 2022 21:47 (two years ago) link

can understand russ being upset considering this is his first time having an issue with someone

lag∞n, Monday, 11 April 2022 22:06 (two years ago) link

well, that answer certainly lacked coherence

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 11 April 2022 23:01 (two years ago) link

That Lonzo Ball walking the plank meme should be in the Louvre.

A great way for Russ to stand up to these guys would be to decline his player option

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 03:43 (two years ago) link

lets fuckin go

LeBron James would be very enthused by the prospect of Mark Jackson landing the Lakers head coaching job, sources tell @sam_amick.

Jackson, an NBA analyst on ESPN, coached the Warriors from 2011-2014.

More: https://t.co/Vpn2TnXztm pic.twitter.com/0TnunbFO1Z

— The Athletic (@TheAthletic) April 12, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 13:41 (two years ago) link

a fitting capstone for lebrons gm career

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 13:41 (two years ago) link

i would be very enthused by the prospect of mark jackson landing the lakers head coaching job and no longer broadcasting basketball games

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 April 2022 13:55 (two years ago) link

otmfm

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 14:02 (two years ago) link

its a win win

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 14:33 (two years ago) link

we all know mark jackson likes to say "mama there goes that man." what this book presupposes is, maybe 'that man' refers to Hitler?

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/7sv4zr/oc_the_origin_of_mark_jacksons_mama_there_goes/

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 17:39 (two years ago) link

makes sense

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 18:05 (two years ago) link

there u go

Charlotte is dismissing coach James Borrego, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) April 22, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 22 April 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

well let’s see what someone else can do with that wack ass team

call all destroyer, Friday, 22 April 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

suspect theyll try to add some defenders

lag∞n, Friday, 22 April 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

I know this dance with the bottle. my brother is SAD. https://t.co/9RaEHQkE6N

— k. (@ThaSoapBox) April 24, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 01:34 (one year ago) link

Bron's still near the top of the league as a player. His failure this season came from acting as his own GM.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 25 April 2022 01:48 (one year ago) link

Kyrie says he plans to re-sign with the Nets: "When I say I'm here with Kev, I think that really entails us managing this franchise together alongside Joe and Sean."

— Scott Cacciola (@ScottCacciola) April 26, 2022

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link

this guy!

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link

love it!!!

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 April 2022 03:28 (one year ago) link

Lmao you just can’t draw this up any better

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 03:34 (one year ago) link

who's taking odds on kyrie opting out the brooklyn saying thanks 4 the memories l8rzzzz

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 03:44 (one year ago) link

kyrie inspired by elon

symsymsym, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 04:23 (one year ago) link

Huh

Nets' Kyrie Irving: “[Hopefully]... we can just start fresh and be realistic with our own expectations and live with our team results, rather than being the polarization of the media scrum and having our names be dragged for a series that naturally happens in people’s careers." pic.twitter.com/rJGkcZU26P

— Ben Golliver (@BenGolliver) April 26, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 05:43 (one year ago) link

im struggling to think of an nba player that has ever been as full of shit as kyrie

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 05:45 (one year ago) link

He probably shouldn’t have been playing since like halfway through the season

Zach LaVine has been playing on an injured knee that’s ‘50% on a good day,’ per @JCowleyHoops

“the source said he will in fact have surgery almost immediately this offseason.” pic.twitter.com/vVyGnxZlr8

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) April 27, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Thursday, 28 April 2022 05:22 (one year ago) link

I send shots at the puppet masters, not the puppets. All puppets do is run around society, trying to gain popularity and state opinions. What a life! 🤷🏾‍♂️

My name is worth billions to these media corporations. My brothers and sisters who deal with this know exactly what I mean.

— A11Even (@KyrieIrving) April 28, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 April 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

fake deep bullshit artist

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 28 April 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

that conley signing by utah just didnt work out, same with the gay signing. hes probably cooked and should move to a reserve role.

jazz need to see if mitchell wants to stay, if he does you gotta move rudy. if he wants out you could get a nice haul im sure. id honestly shop both of them. then prob wait til the trade deadline to move bojan for a first or whatever.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/UTA.html

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Friday, 29 April 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

please nets do this

Here's the year-by-year breakdown of the max contract Kyrie Irving can sign in July:

2022-23: $42.7 million
2023-24: $46.1 million
2024-25: $49.8 million
2025-26: $53.8 million
2026-27: $58.1 million

(Kyrie would be 35 years of age by the end of 26-27)https://t.co/A71VAVVE84

— Tommy Beer (@TommyBeer) April 29, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Friday, 29 April 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

theyre gonna do it theyve go no options

lag∞n, Friday, 29 April 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

guess they could try to get him to take a smaller deal might work dont think theres much of a kyrie market out there

lag∞n, Friday, 29 April 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

58 million is insane he'll be paid more than a milli for each game he plays in

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Friday, 29 April 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

yeah i mean theyre in a terrible situation

lag∞n, Friday, 29 April 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

the hoops gods require the nets to max out kyrie as further penance for trying to buy a championship

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 29 April 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

they got kyrie in a press conference talking about managing the team, a guy who only shows up when he feels like it

lag∞n, Friday, 29 April 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

sounds like hes gonna bounce to me.

Zach on free agency: "I understand the relationship I've had with AK and the last five years here, I hope the city understands how much I care about the Bulls. I'm going into everything open-minded but knowing how much I've enjoyed my time here." pic.twitter.com/85OhzBkPBv

— Chicago Bulls (@chicagobulls) April 29, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Friday, 29 April 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

Zion asked if he’d sign extension:

“Of course. I couldn’t sign it fast enough.”

— Andrew Lopez (@_Andrew_Lopez) April 29, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Friday, 29 April 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

i wonder if the kyrie thing is gonna end up like morey trading for westbrook knowing he wasn’t gonna be around to clean up the mess. sean marks might do it and then bounce in 3 years

J0rdan S., Friday, 29 April 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

i just dont see what choice they have unless kd is cool with them not signing him or trying to 'lowball' him

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Friday, 29 April 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

seems hard to make any safe assumptions about how kd feels about kyrie's contract situation

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 29 April 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

i don’t think players think about things that way. if he was fed up with kyrie personally or didn’t think he was reliable maybe he would tell the nets to cut him loose but that doesn’t seem to be the case. but KD is not gonna be like “our cap space will be eaten up by kyrie’s contract in year 4 of the deal.” he probably thinks they’re all underpaid to begin with. and honestly if KD ever wants to bounce and leave the nets holding the bag at the end he can just force his way out. if he wants to play with kyrie next year he’s not gonna care about the longterm ramifications

J0rdan S., Friday, 29 April 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

welp

Sources: 76ers All-NBA star Joel Embiid suffered a right orbital fracture and mild concussion in series-clinching Game 6 win last night in Toronto. He will be listed as out and there is no timetable for his return.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) April 30, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link

oh man is that from the siakam elbow?

symsymsym, Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

gotta be

lag∞n, Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

embiid was taunting the crowd up 35, pascal retaliated next trip down the court

symsymsym, Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

Man

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

Aren’t they buds?

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

embiid was taunting the crowd up 35, pascal retaliated next trip down the court

― symsymsym, Friday, April 29, 2022 8:49 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

eh looks like a standard move, albeit one from a flail-y driver like siakam

call all destroyer, Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

idk he was taunting directly before that it if was on purpose it was pretty slick but he got him good

lag∞n, Saturday, 30 April 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link

siakam said it was accidental after the game fwiw: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article/embiids-airplane-celebration-in-blowout-doesnt-bother-raptors-siakam/

"I feel awful I hit his face. I was trying to make a move," Siakam said. "Obviously, I apologized to him after that. It was definitely not my intention."

symsymsym, Saturday, 30 April 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link

well in that case

lag∞n, Saturday, 30 April 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link

a deliberate retaliatory foul usually involves some kind of predictable moves as the two players interact. instead neither of them looked like they had any kind of plan at all.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 30 April 2022 01:17 (one year ago) link

its crazy that anyone would consider hiring mark jackson after all that behind the scenes stuff with the warriors came out

Mark Jackson has emerged as a finalist for the Sacramento Kings head coaching job, sources tell me and @sam_amick. Kings GM Monte McNair has begun to notify candidates whether they will move onto in-person meetings.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) April 30, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 30 April 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

Mark Jackson to the Kings! Sweet Jesus, make it so!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 30 April 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

It’s too good

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Saturday, 30 April 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

please god give us this

call all destroyer, Saturday, 30 April 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

he must be incredibly desperate to get back into coaching bcuz that’s really one of the worst jobs in all of sports. michael malone is the only coach who has survived that job with his career intact in the last 20 years

J0rdan S., Saturday, 30 April 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link

Hey Eric Musselman’s doin some good work at Arkansas

Heez, Saturday, 30 April 2022 23:58 (one year ago) link

yeah hes just taking whatever comes

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Sunday, 1 May 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

i think the kings are realistically the only team in the nba that would actually consider jackson

call all destroyer, Sunday, 1 May 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

Oh, I didn't know things were THIS bad with the Jazz... pic.twitter.com/JRhhLfojZs

— Tomer Azarly (@TomerAzarly) April 30, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Sunday, 1 May 2022 05:20 (one year ago) link

the playoffs really proved gobert right lol mitchell got torched all series

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 May 2022 05:35 (one year ago) link

yeah interesting contrast in attitudes there

k3vin k., Sunday, 1 May 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

Mitchell is done with the Jazz. Mentally he already has a foot out the door and he's hated Gobert for a couple of years.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 1 May 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

Hawks should get him

Heez, Sunday, 1 May 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

idk if i have a much better idea for the hawks but not sure adding mitchell’s defense to that team is really addressing their issues

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 May 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

think mitchell wants to be the guy too

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 May 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

mitchell makes sense to me on a team with a solid defense, like miami's gotta be looking at a herro-centric deal here, right?

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 1 May 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

yes. and beal also. they’re gonna try and push in again this summer it seems

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 May 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

ppl have been bringing up gobert for the hawks

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 May 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

Ugh don’t like that at all. Wasn’t aware of Mitchell’s defensive issues but the hawks need an upgrade at the 2. Huerter’s not cutting it

Heez, Sunday, 1 May 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

oh so dray clawed someone in the eye again? seems like a pattern here.

micah, Sunday, 1 May 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

so sick of his fake ass bullshit trying to help people up - how about not hitting them in the first place? same kobe and wade would do like oops

micah, Sunday, 1 May 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

at least he got ejected this time. gtfo

micah, Sunday, 1 May 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

uh oh

Rudy Gobert is at "him or me" point with Donovan Mitchell and will demand that one of them be traded in next few days, per @realOCsports

“Rudy feels that his own numbers are consistent or getting better, while Don is D liability and is falling off in terms of explosiveness” pic.twitter.com/ilIJRMXX2z

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) May 2, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

think gobert would be better off on another team

ciderpress, Monday, 2 May 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link

he deserves a chance on a good defensive team instead of just being left as the clean up guy all the time

lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

yeah saw some persuasive vids/articles about that earlier

ciderpress, Monday, 2 May 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

gobert gets a bad rap but his takes seem to be pretty accurate

micah, Monday, 2 May 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link

hard to build around him tho. modern nba makes it pretty pointless to have a defense-only center eating up 35% of your cap.

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 2 May 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

yeah the jazz have bad perimeter defenders but rudy is flawed too you can play whoever you want against him because he has no offensive skill besides rim running also hes slow which hurts transition play on both sides, basically hes a quality starter who has a bunch of awards and is paid like a star so we have to hear him talk and hear people talk about him, also hes a weird idiot who people seem not to like

lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

i mean brook lopez protects the rim he makes $13m a year and can shoot threes kind of

lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2022 23:04 (one year ago) link

and is still unplayable against certain matchups, but because he only makes 13 per you can sit him whenever you want and dont have to worry about the repercussions

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 2 May 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

The two big market teams that need to improve are the Lakers and the Knicks.

— Earvin Magic Johnson (@MagicJohnson) May 2, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 2 May 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

lmaooooo

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 2 May 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

how does he always have his finger on the pulse

Clay, Monday, 2 May 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link

still got it

lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link

lmao

ciderpress, Monday, 2 May 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

rudy's whole "well i'm doing MY job" schtick is a pretty bad look but i guess he's been enabled by the jazz for a while now

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link

even by Magic's high standards that is great

any pg goat conversation that doesn't include magic's tweets as a positive in his defense is irrelevant in my books

Clay, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 05:04 (one year ago) link

So grateful he resigned from the Lakers FO so that he could share such priceless wisdom with us.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 05:51 (one year ago) link

seems like ham is assistant next in line for the big job

ESPN Sources: The Charlotte Hornets are beginning to interview candidates for their head coaching job, including Golden State assistant Kenny Atkinson, Milwaukee assistant Darvin Ham, Dallas assistant Sean Sweeney and Mike D'Antoni.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) May 3, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

its too good to be true i dont want to get my hopes up

Report: Vivek Ranadive-favored Mark Jackson frontrunner as Kings’ next coach https://t.co/yMaQRqEJr7

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) May 3, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

vivek should receive a federal grant towards jackson’s salary just for taking him off TV

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 3 May 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

lmao

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

otm

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

whos in charge over there

Phil Jackson is advising the Lakers on their coaching search, @espn reports.

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) May 3, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

the lakers squeezed out a title in a weird year thanks to lebron wanting to move to LA and klutch arranging the brow trade in which the lakers traded everything under the sun. but it seems pretty clear at this point that it's a poorly run organization that lets all sorts of lakers "family" (kobe's agent, magic, phil, jeanie) have a say in the decision making process w/o there being a real power structure led by someone who actually knows how to run a basketball team

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 3 May 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

the lakers must run the triangle it's their only path back to success

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

dont forget kurt rambis xp

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

kurt rambis pops up when you least expect

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

turns out taking half a season off isnt a good idea

.@KyrieIrving on not being able to play home games throughout most of the season:

"I never felt like I was 'back.' ... I never felt like myself throughout this season."

New episode of #TheETCs drops 5/4. 🎙 pic.twitter.com/X0yvOgJkxv

— Boardroom (@boardroom) May 3, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

haha weird

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

Brooklyn Nets say Ben Simmons will undergo surgery on his back on Thursday.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) May 4, 2022

doesnt sound great

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

Ah well nevertheless

he was eating Vaseline like it was bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link

doing the jim from the office look at the camera thing

Brooklyn Nets' Ben Simmons is expected to need 3-to-4 months to make a full recovery on back surgery, sources tell ESPN. The expectation is that he'll be ready to return well ahead of training camp.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) May 4, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 23:44 (one year ago) link

back surgery is just one of those things that goes great and leads to returning well ahead of training camp

Clay, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link

im sure ben simmons will do all he can to ensure a swift return to playing basketball an activity he loves

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

i dont believe annnything about this guy so imo hes faking surgery so he has an excuse to not play next year and collect his check

he was eating Vaseline like it was bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Thursday, 5 May 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

yeah i increasingly think simmons has played his last minute of nba basketball already

ciderpress, Thursday, 5 May 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

Love 2 fake surgery to avoid FTs.

we only steal from the greatest books (PBKR), Thursday, 5 May 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

what if hes actually getting surgery to avoid fts

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 May 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

Savage.

we only steal from the greatest books (PBKR), Thursday, 5 May 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

that is the second option yes

he was eating Vaseline like it was bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Thursday, 5 May 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

mostly i just love being a 6'11" 25 year old having major back surgery

Clay, Thursday, 5 May 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link

better than being a basketball player

ciderpress, Thursday, 5 May 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

buss it

The Lakers are conducting their initial wave of interviews over Zoom. They anticipate interviewing 8-10 candidates. Coaches are speaking with Jeanie Buss, Rob Pelinka, Kurt Rambis, Jesse Buss and Joey Buss https://t.co/LMOJ2aePcH

— Dave McMenamin (@mcten) May 7, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 7 May 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

jesse and joe are two great failson names

J0rdan S., Saturday, 7 May 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

joey*

J0rdan S., Saturday, 7 May 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

imagine having to talk about coaching, like in depth, and all your plans and ideas, and the one person out of 5 with an actual basketball background is kurt f'n rambis

call all destroyer, Saturday, 7 May 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

our boys with the big guy

https://i.imgur.com/jEkSz4F.png

lag∞n, Saturday, 7 May 2022 00:52 (one year ago) link

love the sneakers on the left son

call all destroyer, Saturday, 7 May 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

Magic: "The new coach of the Lakers will need to work with Lebron and AD - but those are two all-stars to build with."

we only steal from the greatest books (PBKR), Saturday, 7 May 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Saturday, 7 May 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

have we discussed how magic apparently has a guy follow him around to type and post the tweets for him

ciderpress, Saturday, 7 May 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link

need an ILHer to go undercover and get that job

ciderpress, Saturday, 7 May 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link

The Sacramento Kings have agreed with Golden State assistant Mike Brown on a four-year contract to become the franchise’s next coach, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) May 8, 2022



fuck

J0rdan S., Sunday, 8 May 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

I think that’s a good move but man we got close to getting jax out the booth

we’re gonna be stuck with him forever, we need a pastor needy megachurch to drop the bag

J0rdan S., Sunday, 8 May 2022 23:48 (one year ago) link

ah well its gonna be hard for mjax to another coaching job considering how psycho he behaved in gs

lag∞n, Monday, 9 May 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link

is mike brown really The Guy You need oh well it's the kings what truly can be done

Clay, Monday, 9 May 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

out of curiosity are there any high-profile defenders of mjax? like any reputable nba writer or whoever who’s written in support of his work in the booth

k3vin k., Monday, 9 May 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link

you could do a lot worse than mike brown. and there is still time for the lakers to pick up mjax

micah, Monday, 9 May 2022 00:52 (one year ago) link

oh man thats the dream and they might be the only team that would actually do it too

lag∞n, Monday, 9 May 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link

sac would actually do it they just didn't this time

ciderpress, Monday, 9 May 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link

i think that any org that employs basketball people will not do it because the basketball people will throw a fit to stop it, the lakers however do not employ basketball people and also will do what lebron wants

lag∞n, Monday, 9 May 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link

saw the lakers interviewed stotts and that seems like a real sure why not sort of hire which is the main modern lakers move

Clay, Monday, 9 May 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

Feeling really let down about Jackson not getting the Kings job, would have been a lot of ILH fun

Tonight, in Sombor: pic.twitter.com/GAUhCgbmHX

— Harrison Wind (@HarrisonWind) May 9, 2022

k3vin k., Monday, 9 May 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link

is he ... naked?

das a big guy

lag∞n, Monday, 9 May 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

vibrating on a higher level

“‘Go back to Cleveland, oh my God, Boston hates you, oh my God.' That’s how y’all sound to me, cockroaches.”

Kyrie sounds off on his trolls during a GTA Twitch stream

(h/t @GothamGrant) pic.twitter.com/qmtafbB8Uz

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) May 10, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

hes so lame haha

Ja Morant has a bone bruise in his knee and is expected to miss the rest of the playoffs, the Grizzlies announce. https://t.co/U4q0HXViue

— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) May 10, 2022



rough

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 May 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

bummer

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link

man wth. i want to know when it happened cos it was def not that jordan poole swipe right?

gotta be when he hit klay on that fly by

yeah hes a bad guy and total idiot

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

every time another team goes sniffing around to see if he'd be a good coach for them a few more drips come out about his time with gs and its never good lol

Mike Miller, now a sports agent, here with his top prospect who was mistaken Sunday at F1 for Patrick Mahomes

— Five Reasons Sports (@5ReasonsSports) May 11, 2022



learning that mike miller is paolo banchero’s agent

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 11 May 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

interesting twist, basically a huge mahomes

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 02:12 (one year ago) link

oh

When asked if the organization is committed to Kyrie long-term, Marks is non-committal — noting that he will have conversations with Kyrie in person in the near future and go from there.

— Nick Friedell (@NickFriedell) May 11, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

the kyrie and harden contracts are about to tank two franchises

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

Marks: “We need people here that want to be here, they’re selfless, that want to be part of something bigger than themselves. And there’s an objective and there’s a goal at stake here. And in order to do that, we’re going to need availability from everybody.”

— Nick Friedell (@NickFriedell) May 11, 2022



i’m sure this is just a general statement that applies to no one in particular

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 11 May 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

he has a player option though right?

ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

yeah will be interesting to see what happens if they cant agree on an extension tho, kinda doubt the market for his services is too hot

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

hes worth one year flyer with a team option for 2nd year but you better have a strong team culture in place

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah... this is gonna get good https://t.co/ppNvwcaJEI

— John Karalis 🇬🇷 🇺🇦 (@John_Karalis) May 11, 2022

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

that whole comment seems like a long way of saying 'no'

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

seems almost like those comments were designed to alienate kyrie

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

pretty funny that weve gone from kyrie saying hes looking forward to managing the team to this

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

that may have been the comment that finally put them over the edge lol

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

yeah was thinking the same

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

vibes not weird enough in LA?

I would like to see Kyrie Irving on the Clippers. LAC can give all BKN ever needed: KD + Depth, and LAC gets a theoretically higher ceiling guy + super popular/marketable figure to bring into new arena.

— A.K (@Kungu_NBA) May 11, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

what would they be trading im confused? kawhi or pg? both those guys are better than kyrie

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

he was thinking depth

They have a lot of moveable contracts, but interesting package could be Marcus Morris/Norm Powell/Jason Preston

— A.K (@Kungu_NBA) May 11, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

deal doesnt exactly jump off the page but might be the type of thing the nets will have to do

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

i mean kyrie is worth more than that lol

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

someones gotta be willing to pay tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

honestly they between kyrie and simmons they might want to just burn down barclays for the insurance money

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

even back when the celtics traded a nice first and an injured guy for kyrie he had a terrible reputation and its only gotten much worse

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

haha

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

a situation where you go from having 3 top 20 guys to having KD, norm powell, a morris, and seth curry is magnificence defined

Clay, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

the nets: excellence personified

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link

xp the nets have ben simmons too!

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

yes that is baked into the list of basketball players I was listing

Clay, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

pretty cool that all the teams left are filled with homegrown talent

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

its so good to see them flourish and the superteams perish

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

turns out building and growing into something together actually works

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

kyrie is worth more than that

doesn't matter. what matters is who has the most leverage in the trade and if the nets are trying hard to escape a bad position the other GM would be a fool not to use their leverage by underbidding

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

the superteams are perishing because half the players that want to superteam are checked out of basketball

ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

turns out team play was always more important

ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

i had absolutely no idea that sean marks was from new zealand until i watched the clip in that tweet

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

same haha

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

pretty cool that all the teams left are filled with homegrown talent

― he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, May 11, 2022 2:34 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

its so good to see them flourish and the superteams perish

― lag∞n, Wednesday, May 11, 2022 2:36 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

except the celtics and superstar mercenary al horford, shameful

k3vin k., Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link

big al is an honorary celtics lifer

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link

the line for superteam is when you have 2 all-stars who didn't come up with the team imo

ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

kd warriors were not a superteam by this definition and i'm okay with that. you're allowed to add one guy to your homegrown team no matter how good he/they are

ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

see i feel like they were, being a superteam has a lot to do with just doing cheap shit stacking the deck and so forth

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

also kd just being there for a few years then peacing like nbd was very superteam

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

hmm maybe

ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

never fully committed to the project just wanted a ring

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

also they way they had to gut their team to get him, being top heavy is a core superteam characteristic

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

actually my def would make the bulls a superteam this year so yeah let's scratch that

ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

superteam needs two superstars i think regular allstars wont do

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

the only current superteams are nets and lakers. clippers kinda were but kawhi doesnt play enough. everyone else has gotten their guys reasonably

ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

feel like the basic metric is does adding this person make the team feel less cool and a little gross, by that measure the warriors were a superteam and kd a merc

Clay, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

clippers are a superteam kawhi being injured doesnt matter the dead is done, and they mortgaged their future to do it which is classic

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

by that metric are the sixers a superteam now with harden?

ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

kd dubs def a super team but the league was dumb and let it happen due to the cap jump and choosing not to smooth it. i think the collective bargaining agreement has worked otherwise. we're seeing it now.

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

id say philly are a normal team with some superteam characteristics, but if they deal for another guy theyre a full superteam

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

yeah the leagues in good shape only a couple big market teams feel gross and they play too gross to win so it doesnt matter much

ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

the process had some resonance with superteamdom just weird bottom line bad vibes shit

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

are ratings still up for the offs or was that just the first round bc of nets celtics and such

ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

yeah the leagues in good shape only a couple big market teams feel gross and they play too gross to win so it doesnt matter much

― ciderpress, Wednesday, May 11, 2022 12:34 PM (forty-six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

yah the suns vs bucks in the finals while the lakers and nets get embarrassed within a year is glorious

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link

xp the warriors vs grizz game one was massive. ja has captured the hearts of the youths (and the dubs are always a huge draw)

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

yeah ja blew the fuck up this year couple people who dont follow hoops have mentioned him to me which surprised me figured that wouldve taken longer

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

my dad calls ja “Jay Durant”

Clay, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

are we on the third year straight of ja having knee issues? i hope he can develop a rock solid pull up and 3p shot cos crashing to the rim/ground on every other possession is not sustainable. also he should def wear double knee pads like ewing did.

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

oh huh interesting. whenever i overhear kids in the neighborhood talking about ball its always giannis

ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

its always giannis

rightly so. he's a unicorn, much better than ja, likeable, and plays the kind of game that impresses more people than jokic's game does, even though jokic's unicorn skill set impresses more hoops insiders

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

when i went to celtics/grizz in march there were a ton of young kids with ja jerseys

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

yeah hes pretty much all i hear about from casuals/teens

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

he has a highlight just about every game and highlights are what bring the views on social

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

i think the really young kids, even more than casuals, have a different kind of fanship that's got a big component of starry-eyed worship.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

of course

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link

little guys are more relatable

micah, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

ja is so much cooler than giannis lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

consuming a lil punditry re kyrie and everyone seems to have forgotten that he went awol two years ago

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

in other words being available is about more than just the covid vacation this year

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

And also health which he’s never healthy either

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

yeah huge issue too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link

Nikola Jokic accepted his MVP in Serbia.

pic.twitter.com/eIx0NMnUpl

— Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) May 11, 2022

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link

oh my god

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

that’s got me a little misty

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

Sean Marks said he hasn't talked to Kevin Durant since the season ended on the state of the team. Said Durant (who has been in Monaco and Greece) wanted to get away for a bit.

— Alex Schiffer (@Alex__Schiffer) May 11, 2022

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Thursday, 12 May 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link

i love jokics whole balkan horse accordion scene its so not american we are richer for it

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 May 2022 02:53 (one year ago) link

Mike Malone really looks like a random Jokic family member

symsymsym, Thursday, 12 May 2022 03:27 (one year ago) link

the kiss on the cheek…he’s a made serbian

k3vin k., Thursday, 12 May 2022 12:11 (one year ago) link

WILL THE SIXERS MAX OUT ON JAMES HARDEN y/n

mookieproof, Friday, 13 May 2022 03:32 (one year ago) link

I wonder if anyone on ESPN is going to weigh in on that?

yes but i'm asking the posters of ILH, who are smarter

mookieproof, Friday, 13 May 2022 03:43 (one year ago) link

not lag∞n, who is using us all for a performance art piece

mookieproof, Friday, 13 May 2022 03:45 (one year ago) link

I can't see how you could

WILL THE SIXERS MAX OUT ON JAMES HARDEN y/n


No way. Maybe they try and work out a sign n trade 3/75 type of deal? He might choose to opt in and rehab his rep?

i can’t wait to see that contract. i don’t think morey can actually give him the max contract but how much of a cut does harden accept

J0rdan S., Friday, 13 May 2022 06:39 (one year ago) link

he’s gonna get waaayy more than 3/75

J0rdan S., Friday, 13 May 2022 06:39 (one year ago) link

Yah prob

The god has spoken

James Harden, in a close out game you can't have a performance like that; only take two shots and score no points in the second half?

— Earvin Magic Johnson (@MagicJohnson) May 13, 2022

Maybe Morey will give Harden the max after a real heart to heart convo where James looks in Darryl's eyes and promises to get in shape in the offseason.

daBobo (PBKR), Friday, 13 May 2022 11:36 (one year ago) link

its a perfect story that the smartest man in basketball was so enamored with james harden that he forgot to check if he was still good at basketball

lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 11:40 (one year ago) link

not lag∞n, who is using us all for a performance art piece

― mookieproof, Thursday, May 12, 2022 11:45 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

harumph!

lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 11:40 (one year ago) link

ESPN Sources with @RamonaShelburne: Kyrie Irving has long had one of Nike’s most popular and profitable signature shoes, but uncertainties surrounding his NBA future leave Nike unlikely to extend him to a similar signature deal beyond next season: https://t.co/RbGJMYVbLC

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) May 13, 2022

call all destroyer, Friday, 13 May 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

that was pretty crazy when he publicly trashed them. i wouldnt want any part of him either.

yeah i had forgotten about that, i guess that incident made this close to a foregone conclusion

call all destroyer, Friday, 13 May 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

he such an idiot. hes had all these clips floating around from his twitch feeds and i just cant stomach listening to him.

ah man torn acl for danny green. this may be the end of the line for his career.

Great pro

if his rehab goes normally i bet he’s on a contending roster come the playoffs next year. some team
who is desperate for wing shooting will give him a shot

J0rdan S., Friday, 13 May 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

he'll get one more shot if he wants it but hes likely not playing until the 2024 season

hes 34 if i were him id be thinking about hanging it up, you really want to go through a year of intense rehab to maybe get a shot at a min deal idk rip

lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

Report: Mike D’Antoni is the ‘leader’ for the Hornets job https://t.co/6f5QuMcaAR

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) May 13, 2022

lamelo is going to make an all nba team next year

would actually be a cool situation for mike dan tony

Clay, Friday, 13 May 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

needs to bring along his defensive guy he had in houston tho

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_D%27Antoni

did not know about his older brother, dan dan tony

Clay, Friday, 13 May 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link

haha

not the guy i would choose at all but uh good luck charlotte!

call all destroyer, Friday, 13 May 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link

i like mike dan tony but don't think he can do too much there. happy to be wrong

ciderpress, Friday, 13 May 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

wth is he thinking

ion think i’ve ever seen an nba superstar threaten to shoot a fan on twitter before 😭😭😭 pic.twitter.com/2cCTfJqx63

— 𝘣 🍿 (@TheClevelandEra) May 14, 2022

he was eating Vaseline like it was a bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Saturday, 14 May 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

lol wtf

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 May 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link

yikes

k3vin k., Saturday, 14 May 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

DRAYMOND: "You got this Ogre on TV...these are people employed to talk on TV about our game."

KENDRICK: "I can say what the f**k I want to say when I want to say it...You got the game f**ked up f****g with Big Perk. Carry on." pic.twitter.com/x8zE4ifRW6

— Ballislife.com (@Ballislife) May 14, 2022

similar to how folks seems to be slowly hipping to the fact that letting politics morons spew whatever they want on TV is potentially bad for society I need a new yorker expose on how people like perkins and shaq have jobs talking nonsense about the NBA when they should know better but just don’t care to

k3vin k., Monday, 16 May 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

let me tell you something at the end of the day theres just an appetite for two guys on tv disagreeing and if the topic is an obvious one well someones going to have to take the dumb side

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

and god draymond is such a trenchant ideas guy, he needs to sit down and watch barkley in the studio, constantly acting like your opinion is the best one ever thought doesnt help your case

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

if he really wanted to bring the cold hard basketball truths he wouldve said i dont shoot because im bad at it and its not good to do the things youre bad at

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link

i mean perk didnt shoot either lol

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link

one has to assume that ESPN and TNT have market research indicating that the Shaqs and Perks of the world have added value. Even though he's been on for like 15 yrs I still honestly think of Shaq as an interloper to the original (and all-time) Inside the NBA with just Ernie-Kenny-Chuck. But I'm sure all the dumb bits with Shaq are the most popular segments, so

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 16 May 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

at least on espn idk abt tnt the producers literally plan out the sides of the arguments ahead of time

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

kd wld never want to be a pundit but hes obvs a thinker about the game

Size for position, shotmaking, efficiency, IQ, consistency, being able to guard multiple positions, a wiling passer, coachable, energetic…in my humble opinion https://t.co/7MaEUhbxyg

— Kevin Durant (@KDTrey5) May 16, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link

the draft guy at the althetic has jabari smith ranked ahead of chet and it just seems crazy to me this is the contemporary version of teams just taking an athletic seven footer first just cause thats the valuable type of guy except in this case hes a big wing who can shoot and defend and tbf he is very big and athletic and can shoot the heck out of the ball but im watching his season highlight package now and feel very comfortable in saying that he had fewer than ten impressive drives all last year he just does not seem to have an off the bounce game hes a 3 and d guy youre really gonna draft a 3 and d guy number one

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

granted hes very young and has time to learn things but just never driving at all idk and chet is a natural baller he does it all and is scrappy too literally the one strike against chet is that hes a skinny man, smith might be soft its hard to say doesnt seem like hes in there mixing it up

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

agree entirely and apparently his numbers finishing at the rim are alarming. he shot 43% on two pointers overall. the athletic guy's argument is that jabari won't be played off the floor in the playoffs because he's a wing who can shoot and guard which makes sense except if you're not really that good how much does it matter if you're on the floor. wiggins isn't being played off the floor either but he also wasn't considered a useful player until he ended up on a team where he was the fourth option on offense

when ppl talk about chet i almost wonder if they look at his shot, like they just take for granted that he's a good shooter and we've seen bigs who can shoot and it just is what it is. but i feel like at that height the only guys i can think of who have better looking shots are KD and dirk. everything about his shot is natural and easy. i just don't see how he fails, he's too good of a shooter, he's guaranteed 40%+ from three, he can also dribble and move, if he ever develops a post or mid range game a la dirk he's gonna break defenses. jabari smith is very easy to understand but he also just might be a completely average player. i don't see how chet is worse than myles turner and his ceiling is one of the best big men to ever play

J0rdan S., Monday, 16 May 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

yeah that wont get played off the floor line is wild i hope the 1st pick wont get played off the floor you prob didnt take the right guy if he does

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link

so ayton wants a max contract this offseason and phoenix doesn't want to keep him if it means they pay him at max. the questions I have for the ILH collective are: Will any team want ayton on their team as a max contract? And if ayton gets an offer sheet somewhere at or near to the max, will phoenix match it?

I mean, it's not a Ben Simmons level soap opera, but it's a storyline.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 16 May 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link

there's def teams that would give him the max. it's the rookie max and for any team signing him as a FA it's only 4 years, it's pretty low risk esp if you aren't in a cap crunch which the suns are.

as for matching, i bet they'd try and sign and trade him. maybe they'd match, but teams can also do all sorts of poison pill things or whatever. it doesn't seem like things are headed towards a longterm relationship there

J0rdan S., Monday, 16 May 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

ayton is eligible for a contract somewhere between ~32-34m a year depending on if he signs with the suns or goes somewhere else, kinda think no ones going to give him nearly that much idk there are some dumb teams tho

lag∞n, Monday, 16 May 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

i think desperate teams in far flung markets would do it -- detroit, charlotte, apparently indiana was calling them at the deadline. portland maybe. the knicks? atlanta?

J0rdan S., Monday, 16 May 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

he's young and doesn't have a concerning injury history for a big. i think he'd be attractive to teams hoping to just make the playoffs for a few years and who are not worried about whether ayton can be a key player on a championship team

J0rdan S., Monday, 16 May 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

i didn't know about this until it was mentioned by kevin arnovitz on zach lowe's podcast today, but this long article on ESPN about how much de'andre ayton loves video games was, um, illuminating

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33898958/deandre-ayton-phoenix-suns-video-games

J0rdan S., Monday, 16 May 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

It's clear watching Ayton play NBA 2K on the big screen that he's a dedicated gamer. He says that family comes first for him -- as the father of a 1-year-old, Ayton always makes time for his son, Deandre Jr., and girlfriend, Anissa Evans. But then, every day, he'll settle down for several hours -- at least four or five -- to play NBA 2K. This is how Ayton reached Legend status, an achievement that occurs by reaching Level 40 for four seasons in the game. Ayton believes he's the only NBA player to become a Legend.

"I don't know how I did it this year because I got a child, but I did it," Ayton says.

Ayton typically wakes up around 6 a.m. after only getting about two hours of sleep. There's time for a quick round of gaming after eating breakfast, then he's off to practice. Then it's back home to finish talking trash and practicing moves on the virtual court. On game days, Ayton is focused, but that schedule still includes time for video games.

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

J0rdan S., Monday, 16 May 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

i suspect when the suns let ESPN do this story they might not have had ayton's best interests at heart...

J0rdan S., Monday, 16 May 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

portland maybe.

not likely. i think pdx will do whatever it can to retain nurkic, but they may need to overpay him to do it. he's a better fit than ayton anyway.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 16 May 2022 22:45 (one year ago) link

i … could not disagree more but to each his own, though I don’t think either player is a real answer

Clay, Monday, 16 May 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

nurk won't put the blazers back into the (super-max + max) bind they were in with lillard & cj, but ayton would, while not delivering enough value. a big part of nurk's 'better fit' for me is that he can hold down the middle but not break the bank. after the tear down the blazers need to sign some solid pieces to rebuild with. ayton ain't the answer.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 16 May 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

with Portland’s current roster I’m not sure what the question even is

Clay, Monday, 16 May 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link

it's not one question, but at least a dozen.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 16 May 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link

if i was the blazers, i would simply win the draft lottery and then draft chet holmgren

ciderpress, Monday, 16 May 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

they might be the most mysterious team in the league right now. no idea what their goals are, what style of basketball they wanna play, how they intend on getting better, who is even on their team. it sounds like dame is sticking around in which case they need to put a real team around him in one offseason

J0rdan S., Monday, 16 May 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

my lord that ayton gaming story is something

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

i suspect when the suns let ESPN do this story they might not have had ayton's best interests at heart...

― J0rdan S., Monday, May 16, 2022 6:09 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this makes sense and also sucks

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

It wasn't just the Suns. his agent prob knew in advance, too.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

my lord that ayton gaming story is something

― call all destroyer, Monday, May 16, 2022 8:25 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lmao that shit is wild why doesnt he sleep sleep is important

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 01:30 (one year ago) link

"I don't know how I did it this year because I got a child, but I did it," Ayton says, as his kid stares at him blankly, his mouth agape, his eyes wide

Heez, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

to be fair one year olds sleep a lot, unlike deandre ayton

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

i didn't know about this until it was mentioned by kevin arnovitz on zach lowe's podcast today, but this long article on ESPN about how much de'andre ayton loves video games was, um, illuminating

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33898958/deandre-ayton-phoenix-suns-video-games

― J0rdan S., Monday, May 16, 2022 6:02 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

i just listened to this pod and for someone as measured as arnovitz to refer repeatedly to ayton's "comportment" being a concern within the suns.....yeah there's something there.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

did he say what the comportment problems were particularly

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

nah. he did a big sarver piece a while back so i would assume he has good suns sources (and is protective of them)

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

I’m charting every single bucket Luka scored in the series. Of the 56 (out of 81 total) I’ve done so far, 18 of Luka’s buckets have come from getting Ayton on him out of the PnR. https://t.co/FAT4Gog4hw

— BBALLBREAKDOWN (@bballbreakdown) May 17, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

did he say what the comportment problems were particularly

― lag∞n, Tuesday, May 17, 2022 1:59 PM (eighteen minutes ago)

the implication seemed to be that he doesn't take basketball seriously enough. arnovitz was like "you'd never see an article about bam playing video games so much that he only sleeps 2 hours per night." i'm sure the suns are aware of that as well which is what makes me think they weren't too worried about that info coming out

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 May 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

lmao he likes the nba video game more than being in the nba

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

No dopamine-drip of progression and leveling up IRL.

Santa Barbarous (Leee), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

suns shd give him badges for various accomplishments, got 8 hours of sleep badge, didnt get posted up by guy half a foot shorter than me badge

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

lmao he likes the nba video game more than being in the nba

― lag∞n, Tuesday, May 17, 2022 2:31 PM (eight minutes ago)

it is a bit ridiculous that there's a whole story on the number 1 overall pick that hinges on him working hard enough to achieve "Legend" status............ in NBA 2K

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 May 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

cant believe ayton agreed to a be taken down like that, he must have zero street sense. dude let the photographer take a pic of him holding a controller like a baby lmaooooo

https://a2.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2022%2F0412%2Fr998618_1999x3000cc.jpg&w=570&format=jpg

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

i’ve had enough of the 2k shaming itt, if bingeing 2k until you get a headache is wrong i don’t want to be right

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

Tracer, if you are also a #1 overall nba pick then you should feel shame imo, sorry that’s how I feel.

you should just keep it to yourself is the thing. and def not let it be released right around when you get mopped up by the guy you were picked ahead of

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

i definitely think everyone should be sleeping more than 2 hours per night especially nba players

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

especially 7 footers

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

suns shd give him badges for various accomplishments, got 8 hours of sleep badge, didnt get posted up by guy half a foot shorter than me badge

Yeah, they just got to figure out how to gamify basketball.

Santa Barbarous (Leee), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

i guess the whole scoring system with putting the ball through the hoop ring isnt enough of a game for him

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

Real life game stats could be applied to his Gamerscore

*double the gamerscore stats for real life stats

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link

negative points for layups, quadruple for dunks

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

I cannot imagine intentionally getting 2 hours of sleep a night. Probably why I never had kids.

Blackhawk Down 2: Electric Boogaloo (PBKR), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 21:12 (one year ago) link

i def got more than that as a new parent!

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 21:17 (one year ago) link

I have insomnia once in a while and two hours two nights in a row leaves me feeling hungover/stupid like I could kill myself accidentally on purpose.

Blackhawk Down 2: Electric Boogaloo (PBKR), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

it's really crazy I just realized that the NBA Draft Lottery is tonight, usually I've been obsessing about it for a month

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link

yeah i tuned in for the game and realized its not for half an hour becasue of this

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link

im watching it baby who will get the #1 pick one of the teams who will get the #2 pick also a team

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link

nuggets will win the nba draft lottery

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:06 (one year ago) link

why do they even have the players here they aren't getting drafted yet

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

this is really one event in the world of sports where i do not need a 20 minute intro and analysis, just gimme the order and go to the game

Clay, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

*abe simpson voice* get to the monayyyyyyyyy

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

jordan is right ppl are underrating chets shooting jay bilas just listed shot 40% from three as an after thought lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

oh good tuned in just in time

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

s/o to my guy anderson varejao lookin slightly hungover

Clay, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

rigged

Clay, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

lol i had the same thought re: andy

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link

boo to the kings moving up

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

draft shaq again imo

Spottie, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link

big day for the orlando magic theory

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

jabari smith is a perfect magic pick

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

yeah the thunder are gonna get chet

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:32 (one year ago) link

i've heard the blazers are going to trade up and draft chet and it's going to be easy and won't cost much in fact the other team will say thank you for asking so that is cool to know

Clay, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:32 (one year ago) link

nice, nice

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

idk i feel like the magic love to take guys with length and nobody is longer than chet

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

smith is extremely long too tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

maybe the prospects attended the lottery so the magic could measure them

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link

magic gm getting out his tape measure hey chet cmere a min

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:58 (one year ago) link

Orlando draft Slenderman

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link

my annual tradition of observing the moment that jerry west's soul died on national television pic.twitter.com/e8ftF8HaSv

— J. Kyle Mann (@jkylemann) May 17, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link

imagine memphis bron

symsymsym, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:10 (one year ago) link

think they could have won in his first few years there

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:27 (one year ago) link

now hollingers got smith #1 too AND he has chet at 4 my god

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 12:24 (one year ago) link

Can someone post the mock?

Heez, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 12:37 (one year ago) link

its so bad heez

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link

lol ok

Heez, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link

when did hollinger switch from nba stats guy to college scout man?

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:11 (one year ago) link

think hes just kind of an nba generalist now

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:13 (one year ago) link

pretty funny he still uses per in his articles dont think hes even serious about it kind of a running joke, most interesting of his stuff is imo the insights from working in a front office, seems pretty clear he doesnt take a lot of his work too seriously tho, prob hard to come back to a silly fans pov once youve been on the other side

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link

his intro about “picking from all star buckets” is hilariously dumb small sample size theater

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:17 (one year ago) link

both him and the vincente are arguing for smith as the safe pick at 1 which i mean is he even are we sure hes not gonna be another wiggins but mainly just dont make the safe pick at 1 ffs you absolutely have to be looking for a star there

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:20 (one year ago) link

i only skimmed it but it seems like hollinger's argument is basically don't draft centers high which yeah sure but based on their comps and pedigree not sure i see a lot of high-end upside with the guys he's putting in front of chet

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link

remember when luka wasn't a consensus #1 pick

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link

dont draft centers unless theyre you know one of the three who finished top three in mvp voting this year lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link

also! seems pretty obvious chet can play the 4, in fact it could be his more natural position in big traditional lineups then switch to the 5 for smallball, his defense is prob more valuable there tbh similar to how giannis or rob williams act as rovers next to lopez and horf

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link

uh you don’t understand, he’s over seven feet so he’s a center

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

yeah chet is almost certainly going to start his career playing mostly 4

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

cute

My cousin @robothethird is in town and I told her I’d give her a lil tour of Milwaukee on this chilly summer night. Look who we bumped into😳🫠 pic.twitter.com/RAXdSDEdFy

— Jessica Madhukar (@JessicaMadhukar) May 18, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

Incredibly, almost impossibly, the Knicks have lost more games than any team in the NBA this century, but have never had the No. 1 overall pick. Or the No. 2 overall pick. They’ve had a top-3 pick just once

— Tommy Beer (@TommyBeer) May 18, 2022



incredible stat

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

they're even bad at being bad

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

the nba needs to rig the lottery for them once again

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

if the lakers had a pick this year they would have gotten the fix i sincerely believe this

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

sign of the times

The 4-point shooting drill, a new addition to the NBA Draft Combine. Bryce McGowens and Leonard Miller showing their range. pic.twitter.com/D2O4ya7jeU

— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) May 18, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

true hoisting

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

tbf all centers are role players except for jokic and embiid

micah, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

tbrf ayton plays shooters, action, sports games as well, not just rpgs

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

kat and bam certainly not role players, giannis plays a lot of center certainly could play fulltime np

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

is draymond a center idk man is chet a center also do not know

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

chet is a pf

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

he'll play center eventually or become a huge wing player. PF doesn't really exist anymore

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

that's good because he's not very powerful

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

Kinda like that the Givony mock for the hawks pick has them taking TyTy Washington. I haven’t watched him play but I feel like Kentucky’s had a lot of these one and done guards recently who’ve been mid round picks that turn out well

Heez, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link

thats what a PF is now

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

That's prob why pf is more often called a '4' nowadays.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link

feel like there's def some team building tips the hawks can pick up from the mavs, the main one being that having shooters around your high usage ball handler isn't enough, you also need 2 guys who can create their own offense to play when he sits and also next to him

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

Athletic reporting that the Wolves are in serious talks with Nugs president Tim Connelly to become Wolves POBO

No literally. I am not funny enough to make that up pic.twitter.com/OzBISy4Ofo

— Anna Orso (@anna_orso) May 19, 2022

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

oh sorry. the first tweet is this:

Philly City Council just passed a resolution that names Joel Embiid our MVP - "Most Valuable Philadelphian"

— Anna Orso (@anna_orso) May 19, 2022

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link

Lol, at Embiid's middle name being "Hans".

PBKR, Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link

Joel Hans Embiid sounds like a player in the 30 Years War.

PBKR, Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link

lol yes

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

i love little historical details like some duke was 7 feet 280

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

they had to find a really big horse for him to use.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 May 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link

kat and bam certainly not role players, giannis plays a lot of center certainly could play fulltime np

― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022

oh yeah i forgot about kat. bam is a role player though (at least in the playoffs)

micah, Friday, 20 May 2022 11:06 (one year ago) link

bam is a weird player sometimes hes dominant and others might as well be a role player

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 11:56 (one year ago) link

he was invisible last night

call all destroyer, Friday, 20 May 2022 12:22 (one year ago) link

the thing with him is that he doesn’t reliably score in the half court in the playoffs (vs really good teams anyway). in the regular season he can get out in transition where he is deadly & generally put up 20 ppg in a looser more free flowing game. but when the game is being played in the half court 90% of the time vs locked in defenses he’s prob not gonna score 20. that being said he’s one of the 5 best defensive players in the league to me & is point blank non-exploitable on that end of the floor which makes him different than all but very very few centers in the league. draymond & embiid might be the only other two who i would say that about. he was a game wrecker vs the sixers and one of the main reasons why the heat went crazy in the third quarter of game one of this series & were able to win.

this series is interesting bcuz the celtics have a lot of good offensive players and there’s only so much one player can do on defense. if guys like tatum and smart are gonna score in one on one situations vs other defenders or the celtics are gonna make 4 passes and find an open shooter there’s not a ton bam can do. and boston will always have a big on the floor who can fight him for rebounds. it’s possible bam “gets played off the floor” in this series insomuch as if the celtics are scoring 100+ points the heat may need to try line ups that have as much shooting as humanly possible to try and keep pace (tucker at center basically) but that doesn’t strike me as a bam issue as much as being able to play horford and grant williams at center and have great shooting across the board and an amazing defense is the reason why the celtics are prob the favorites to win the title

J0rdan S., Friday, 20 May 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

celtics were def avoiding him and jimmy last night i noticed, picking their matchups and so forth

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

feel like bams offense has stagnated tho, working on a face up game from the elbow would make sense for him since hes a good passer, his handle is prob good enough he just needs to be able to hit that 15-18 foot jumper reliably

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

yeah his passing dies in the offs because his defender can sag so much

micah, Friday, 20 May 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

this is getting back to the spaceballs idea where a switchy center who can shoot will be more useful than one who cant

micah, Friday, 20 May 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link

yeah but there aren’t many switchy centers who can shoot. there are centers who can switch and centers who can shoot but being huge, athletic, agile and skilled enough to shoot threes is a very rare combo. if bam could shoot threes he’d be one of the 10 best players in the league

J0rdan S., Saturday, 21 May 2022 03:01 (one year ago) link

oh absolutely. in fact i don't think we have even seen that perfect center yet, except for draymonds one season where he shot well.

micah, Saturday, 21 May 2022 11:25 (one year ago) link

if horford had taken up the 3 earlier in his career maybe

ciderpress, Saturday, 21 May 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

Durant in the death lineup when he was locked in on D was the archetype

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 21 May 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

he wasnt the center tho

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link

ciderpress
Posted: May 21, 2022 at 10:00:10 AM
if horford had taken up the 3 earlier in his career maybe

hes doin pretty good currently

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

everyone thinking they werent gonna get much from him then hes ballin out changed the math for the cs

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

ESPN Sources: Denver Nuggets president Tim Connelly is traveling to meet with Minnesota owner Glen Taylor this weekend in what’s the next step in the Timberwolves’ pursuit to hire Connelly and make him one of league’s highest compensated executives.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) May 21, 2022

hes doin pretty good currently

― lag∞n, Saturday, May 21, 2022 10:51 AM (forty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah but hard to think the perfect center would be a 35 year old when we can imagine someone with the same skillset at 25

ciderpress, Saturday, 21 May 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

being highly compensated to run a team with lower expectations seems like an alright gig

ciderpress, Saturday, 21 May 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

i personally would think twice before becoming involved with the timberwolves organization

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

i'm in it for the compensation

ciderpress, Saturday, 21 May 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

FYI horford did that during the hawks 60 win season

Heez, Saturday, 21 May 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

oh i thought it was the year after that, in his contract year

ciderpress, Saturday, 21 May 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

Sorry it was the 15/16 season he started hoisting

Heez, Saturday, 21 May 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

nice story

"Brother, I'm drunk. I cannot do interview right now."

Call it the Nikola Jokic MVP mission. Here's how the #Nuggets pulled off their covert trip to Serbia.https://t.co/WnS5bhUdPL

— Mike Singer (@msinger) May 20, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link

bam read this thread

J0rdan S., Sunday, 22 May 2022 06:31 (one year ago) link

indeed

micah, Sunday, 22 May 2022 12:36 (one year ago) link

not a great job

Michigan coach Juwan Howard reportedly turned down an offer to be the head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers.

(via @wojespn) pic.twitter.com/opee8dZzJM

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) May 22, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 May 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

juwan and lebro were together on the heat, correct?

call all destroyer, Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

yeah, did not think of that aspect lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

hes seen what bron can do to a coach

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

ESPN Sources: Denver Nuggets President Tim Connelly has agreed to a deal with the Minnesota Timberwolves that’ll make him one of the NBA’s highest compensated executives. Significant coup for Minnesota franchise.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) May 23, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 23 May 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

Connelly will sign a 5-year, $40M-plus deal that includes ownership equity, sources said. Massive deal and franchise changing move for the Timberwolves.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) May 23, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 23 May 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

Woah

godspeed to all parties involved w/ this one

J0rdan S., Monday, 23 May 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

A-Rod ownership group pulling out their checkbooks.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 23 May 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

Denver made a bid to keep Connelly that would've moved him into one of the better paid league executives, sources said, but the ownership equity with Minnesota is life-changing money -- something only a very few executives have in their deals.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) May 23, 2022



always a good sign when the guy is like “yeah i’ll leave behind this great team i built to come work for your organization only if you give me so much money that i simply cannot say no”

J0rdan S., Monday, 23 May 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

juwan will prob eventually be an nba coach, but for now the decision is "coach your sons at your alma mater" or "be lebron's highly-paid assistant," and i think he chose wisely

I like how being paid millions in annual salary is just ho-hum these days and it takes getting an ownership share in a billion dollar enterprise to be "life-changing".

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 23 May 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link

I'm pretty excited, this rules

Sounds like Gupta is staying on

min definitely in position to become a real team but yeah i'll believe it when i see it

ciderpress, Monday, 23 May 2022 21:43 (one year ago) link

I like how being paid millions in annual salary is just ho-hum these days and it takes getting an ownership share in a billion dollar enterprise to be "life-changing".

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, May 23, 2022 4:08 PM (one hour ago)

when someone is willing to pay you $10 million+ to not work for the timberwolves, the timberwolves better be offering something that is truly changing your life in a whole different way

J0rdan S., Monday, 23 May 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link

Allows him to take that all-important step up from the 0.06% into the 0.04%.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 23 May 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link

currently entertaining offers in the $6-8m range to not work for the timberwolves, please dm

Clay, Monday, 23 May 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

I think it's funny that leaving a job for more money, which is why 99% of people leave their job is being viewed as suspect for some reason. Wolves aren't a destination so you have to overpay. POBO doesn't count against the cap so who cares how much these rich guys want to spend.

kinda surprising top front office jobs are mix level exception money tbh

lag∞n, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link

yeah im disappointed too but you cant get everything you want look on the bright side you got legendary status in video games

DeAndre Ayton’s agent: “We’re disappointed. We wanted a max contract” https://t.co/GDVBqVf5QR

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) May 24, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link

the best way to get more money and prove youre worth the max is actually to play poorly and quit on your team in the playoffs then let someone write an article about how you only sleep a couple hours per night cos you cant shut off the video game.

Spottie, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 02:40 (one year ago) link

talking shit to your coach in an elimination game is good too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 02:41 (one year ago) link

A proven formula for success

Spottie, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 02:51 (one year ago) link

This guy is built for a max contract from the Kings or Hornets.

PBKR, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 11:58 (one year ago) link

pistons maybe, if they miss out on the big men at the top of the draft

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 12:28 (one year ago) link

hornets one team that i think would actually be completely justified in giving ayton a huge contract. they badly need a real center and he’s athletic enough to play with their guys

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 May 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

that team would need one helluva coach/culture to make it work cos hes not helping their defense unless he buys in

Spottie, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

i bet lamelo is a big gamer, the chemistry would be strong

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 May 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10036706-early-nba-free-agency-buzz-intel-on-deandre-ayton-zach-lavine-and-more

The recent Williams dynamic may simply echo consistent word—dating back to the trade deadline—from league sources with knowledge of the situation that Ayton is not particularly a favorite of Phoenix's head coach. Williams has purportedly griped about Ayton's waning focus, which some people contacted by B/R said has often been reflected by the ebbs of his playing time.

There's a stronger sense among league figures that Phoenix brass simply does not view Ayton, or any center, as a player worth greater than $30 million annually.

Spottie, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

feel like there couldn’t be any more smoke coming from various sources as well as public statements/interactions to suggest that he’s gonna be on another team next year

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 May 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

a sign and trade with the pistons to get jerami grant feels like it could be a coup for them

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 May 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

The push to make a big hire in the front office may not seem like a novel idea on its face, but it is a guiding principle of Lore’s “Vision, Capital, People” mantra. Identify the top talent, and pay whatever it takes to make it happen.

k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 May 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

thats cool i personally live by the mantra "live, love, laugh"

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

hornets one team that i think would actually be completely justified in giving ayton a huge contract. they badly need a real center and he’s athletic enough to play with their guys

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:25 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

would have to be a sign and trade either hayward or terry + oubre and a pick or picks idk what teams are willing to give up to max out ayton maybe they could get grant from detroit

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

between this and cp3 turning into a pumpkin on his 37th birthday suns have gone from champ contender to looking shaky fast

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

i know we made fun of sarver for not paying ayton last offseason but its looking like that was a good choice. instead we should direct all of that ire at him for picking ayton over luka in the first place.

“I’ve been told by multiple people who were with the Phoenix organization that picking Ayton was a total Robert Sarver move,” said MacMahon. “It sure wasn’t Igor. He wanted them obviously to get Luka, and to put a big offer on the table for Clint Capela.”

MacMahon’s co-host, Brian Windhorst, added that Ayton attended college at the University of Arizona, where Sarver is “a proud alum.”

Spottie, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

it was always obvious that Ayton's U. of Arizona connection was a big contributing factor to his #1 pick by PHX. also, that it was a mistake.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link

it was always obvious that Ayton's U. of Arizona connection was a big contributing factor to his #1 pick by PHX. also, that it was a mistake.


I think most of it was a belief that Doncic and Booker wouldn’t fit and I think that’s actually true to some degree but also you need to get Doncic and sort that out later.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:17 (one year ago) link

yeah its been proven over and over that you shouldnt draft for fit with top picks, tho imo those guys wouldve fit fine or even great

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link

Yeah it turned out that Booker isn’t as ball dominant as it seemed he would be

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

i don't want to make a bigger deal out of it than it is, but that video game article really shifted my perspective. honestly the idea that he's getting like 4-5 hours of sleep a night, let alone 2, could account for a lot of the lack of focus in his game. if he could kick that shit and start living healthy who knows what he'd be. otoh there isn't much indication he's interested on doing that so maybe a moot point.

can't remember where i was reading/listening to it, but in the midst of harden looking cooked in these playoffs, someone was contrasting his off-court lifestyle with cp3 as a significant contributor to their ability to maintain their level of play as older players, and it really resonated. i don't always think about that how much of a difference that stuff makes

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 14:02 (one year ago) link

it's infinitely sadder that its the nba games and not like a MMO or whatever

ciderpress, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link

feel like another team might be working with ayton behind the scenes on mental health stuff rather than making all this public but suns are gonna suns

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link

tbf we dont know what theyve tried with him

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link

we don't but i have no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

true tho tbf the video game stuff isnt coming from any sort of leak ayton put it out there himself he likes it and thinks its good

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link

it's infinitely sadder that its the nba games and not like a MMO or whatever

yes

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

Ayton on the Mavs would be pretty nice...

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

REPORT: Russell Westbrook has formally requested a trade from the Los Angeles Lakers.

His list of preferred trade destinations include the Warriors, Bucks, and Heat. 👀🔥 pic.twitter.com/bqUSEJtFT1

— ًHoop CentraI (@TheHooopCentral) May 25, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 26 May 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

Welcome to Orlando, Russell.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 26 May 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

Lol

Miami needs another Star

— Joel “Troel” Embiid (@JoelEmbiid) May 26, 2022

lowry for russ

Spottie, Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

is he volunteering?

ciderpress, Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

That Russ tweet is from a parody account. :(

Careful Whisper (Leee), Thursday, 26 May 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

lol hooop central

Spottie, Thursday, 26 May 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

sorry everyone

Spottie, Thursday, 26 May 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

haa i almost posted that earlier

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 May 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33989997/portland-trail-blazers-hire-espn-nba-draft-analyst-mike-schmitz-assistant-general-manager-sources-say

32 year old former draftexpress guy pretty cool also to the many gms out there lurking please hire ILH guys we are good at knowing about the ball game

Clay, Friday, 27 May 2022 05:37 (one year ago) link

please hire ILH guys

no, do not hire me. but yes, do hire clay. he seems very bright and a pleasant sort of person to work with.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 27 May 2022 05:46 (one year ago) link

First ILH poach should obv be Jordan and Matt together, Team of Rivals style. If it worked for Obama, it will work for the Orlando Magic

Narrator: it did not work for Obama

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 27 May 2022 10:57 (one year ago) link

this should end well

"The Pelicans, at this point are not willing to offer a full 5 year guaranteed deal... They will offer him a huge contract but will not guarantee all of it."

🔊 Brian Windhorst with Intel on the Pelicans' contract negotiations with Zion Williamsonpic.twitter.com/4dTbQ2uPvd

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) May 27, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 27 May 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

good luck pelicans

lag∞n, Friday, 27 May 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

/saints

Spottie, Friday, 27 May 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

if i were to read that….generously, my guess would be they’re looking for some catastrophic injury protection like the sixers got for embiid’s knee. in other words a contract that guarantees pretty easily unless the guy can’t walk for 2 years.

call all destroyer, Friday, 27 May 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

"we're gonna take a saints-style approach to this"

you mean the most financially irresponsible team in the nfl? those saints?

the team that gave taysom hill (brutal injury history btw!) 35 mil guaranteed

the lakers have, gone ham

The Lakers have hired Darvin Ham as coach, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) May 28, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 May 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

i know this guy has been waiting for a while but that's a hell of a first-time job

call all destroyer, Saturday, 28 May 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link

i do not mean this when i say it, but best of luck coach ham

Clay, Saturday, 28 May 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

Tyler Herro expresses desire to be starter next season

“It's my fourth year, I think I've earned it.” https://t.co/u3j1cmdIYl

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) May 31, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

Does not sound like Miami Heat mindtype

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

he will def be a starter........on the washington wizards

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

The Nets deferred the Sixers 2022 pick to 2023, which means:

The Sixers will pick No. 23 in the draft June 23 and can use the pick in trades beginning on draft night. The Sixers won't be able to trade another pick for seven years because of conditions owed to teams on several picks, including their 2025 first-round pick (top-6 protected to Oklahoma City) and 2027 first-round pick (top-8 protected to Brooklyn).

life is a highway to the danger zone (PBKR), Thursday, 2 June 2022 11:48 (one year ago) link

eesh

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:18 (one year ago) link

Process 2.0 gonna look more dire than the original

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link

wow niketown

Nike founder Phil Knight and Dodgers co-owner Alan Smolinisky have made a $2 billion-plus written offer to purchase the Portland Trail Blazers, sources tell ESPN. Discussions are ongoing with the Paul Allen trust that's overseeing ownership of team. Story soon.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 2, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 June 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

would be great for the blazers no doubt

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 June 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

the ownership situation currently seems like a mess

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 June 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

why because the owner has been dead for five years

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 June 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

lmao

The Knicks are finalizing a contract with Rick Brunson to become an assistant coach on Tom Thibodeau’s staff, SNY has learned: https://t.co/jHkE5u7MnH

— Ian Begley (@IanBegley) June 2, 2022

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 June 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

the knicks pulling out all the stops to max out a back up point guard you really do have to love it

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 June 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

not thrilled on a political or aesthetic level about the blazers going full Team Nike but it would obviously be one of the better things for the future of the franchise, I’d come to terms with it pretty quick

Clay, Thursday, 2 June 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

yeah it makes a lot of sense and every ownership is rich corporate guys so as far as that goes there not anything more portland and nba than nike i mean they make the uniforms and most of the shoes

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

wonder if it will have to be a purely phil knight enterprise since nike has a relationship with the whole league

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link

jalen brunson would still be the best knicks point guard since...idk you'd have to go back pretty far. unless you count those six weeks of linsanity.

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link

kidd?

Spottie, Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link

btw, phil knight is 84 years old, i hope he has a better succession plan in place than paul allen did.

circles, Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

lol

Blazers statement: An offer was made by Phil Knight. The team remains not for sale.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 2, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link

i dont understand why the trust of a dead guy is hoarding an nba team

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

kidd?

― Spottie, Thursday, June 2, 2022 5:19 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he was pretty old by then, splitting time with raymond felton

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

my understanding is the will stipulated the team must be sold five years after his death but that also sounds like an urban legend now that I type it out xp

Clay, Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

they have to consult the ouija board

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link

Prospective buyers have to stay overnight at a haunted house, the one who survives to the morning becomes the owner.

Gianni Fursace (Leee), Friday, 3 June 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

we must not degrade the billionaires, please

Clay, Friday, 3 June 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link

windhorst talked about the blazers sale process a while ago and the upshot was that the trust had a bunch of more valuable shit to get to before it could get around to selling the blazers

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 June 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link

"pfft, two billion? we'll get to that eventually, i guess"

circles, Friday, 3 June 2022 02:42 (one year ago) link

Since December, the Blazers have fired their Director of Player Health and Performance, the VP of Communications, their basketball operations coordinator, a video coordinator, two assistant GMs and a Senior VP.

— Jason Quick (@jwquick) May 25, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 June 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

from the athletic today, never heard of this guy before but he sounds bad

🔥🔥🔥🔥 @jwquick pic.twitter.com/4cebiV4jbT

— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) June 5, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 June 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

lol maybe I will dish the dirt on bert one day soon

Clay, Sunday, 5 June 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

please tell us the stuff

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 June 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

blurt the bert dirt

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 5 June 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

kolde is well known to any serious blazer fan as paul allen's hatchet man.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 5 June 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

seems like his natural habitat

ciderpress, Sunday, 5 June 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link

collect all the lowrys! the real ones! the shitty knockoffs!

call all destroyer, Sunday, 5 June 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

got to think theres more to come rip utah jazz

Utah Jazz coach Quin Snyder is planning to step down, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 5, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 June 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link

zero idea what that team will look like next year but the best idea is probably a total burn down

Clay, Sunday, 5 June 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link

you can only go out sad so many times in a row

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 June 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

After losing Snyder -- the second winningest coach in franchise history -- the Jazz plan to commence on a coaching search immediately, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 5, 2022



this is a pretty good idea

J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 June 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

feel like they could do it later

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 June 2022 22:16 (one year ago) link

Has a team ever hired another team's general manager to be their head coach? Asking for a friend.

— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) June 5, 2022

stay away from brad you freaks

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 June 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link

bad stevens

ciderpress, Sunday, 5 June 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

ah interesting

ESPN Sources: In aftermath of Quin Snyder’s departure as Utah Jazz coach, All-Star guard Donovan Mitchell is described as “unsettled, unnerved and wondering what it means for the franchise’s future.”https://t.co/hR6H1tKGX0

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 5, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 June 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link

when i heard a few days ago that multiple jazz assistants were bailing for other jobs that pretty much settled it.

i assume he is a take a year off guy for health and contractual reasons.

call all destroyer, Monday, 6 June 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

woj in omniscient narrator mode

J0rdan S., Monday, 6 June 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link

“He definitely is going to have to address that and it will be addressed. I definitely think he can be in better shape. We'll address it and try to help him.”

- Pat Riley on Kyle Lowry 😯
(h/t @flasportsbuzz ) pic.twitter.com/f5isweTwD8

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) June 6, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 6 June 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

the Jerry West in him

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 6 June 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

Lakers coach Darvin Ham on Russell Westbrook’s role next season: “The biggest word we used was sacrifice.”

"I want him to get back to guarding at a championship level." From NBA Today: pic.twitter.com/HPu69MzXaM

— Malika Andrews (@malika_andrews) June 6, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 6 June 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link

good luck Coach Ham!

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

YA GONNA NEED IT

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

pelton:

My projections translate performance in NCAA Division I and other leagues to an NBA equivalent and then adjust for age and position to project value over a player's next five seasons. Lastly, I add in ranking in the ESPN's top 100 prospects for the best consensus projection.

1. Chet Holmgren
Power forward | Gonzaga
Top 100: No. 1
Stats: No. 1

Consensus: 4.4 WARP

There's no change at the very top of my projections, with Holmgren still the top-rated in both the stats-only version and the consensus projections. Holmgren's versatility stands out. He's the first prospect ever in my database to project to block at least 5% of opponent 2-point attempts and take at least 30% of his own shots from 3-point range. Add in projected 59% accuracy on 2-point attempts and Holmgren figures to make a big impact at both ends even if he's not the kind of dominant creator who usually ranks atop draft boards.

2. Jabari Smith
Power forward | Auburn
Top 100: No. 2
Stats: No. 7

Consensus: 3.3 WARP

The one minor concern about Smith as a top prospect is his solid but unspectacular efficiency. Smith's projected .545 true shooting percentage as an NBA rookie is weaker than league average (.566). To become the dominant scorer he's got the potential to be, Smith will have to turn more of his long 2-point attempts (he shot 38.5% on 2s outside 17 feet, per Synergy Sports tracking) into 3s, which he made at a 42% clip -- or an effective field-goal percentage of 63% when accounting for the extra point.

...

11. Paolo Banchero
Power forward | Duke
Top 100: No. 3
Stats: No. 35

Consensus: 2.1 WARP

While the other two top prospects in this year's rankings are 1-2 overall in the consensus projections, Banchero falls outside the top 10 because of his unspectacular stats-only projection. Banchero wasn't as efficient as Holmgren and Smith. He was more accurate on long 2s than Smith (45%, per Synergy Sports) but not nearly as good from 3-point range (34%). Improvement there will help Banchero become an elite scorer. He could also stand to improve his impact on defense.

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

chet as the clear top prospect is exactly how i see things thank you kevin pelton. teams are really psyching themselves out

J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

otm tho i hope they do psych themselves out okc is such a better situation for chet than orlando

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

unicorns don't belong in black holes

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 9 June 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link

Please don't draft this guy it would be confusing

Nikola Jovic out of Serbia, who played for the same club as Nikola Jokic and grew up a water polo player, headlines today’s Nuggets pre-draft workout.

Is there real interest there, and could Denver actually make him the pick?https://t.co/CsocXGV6Dy

— Harrison Wind (@HarrisonWind) June 10, 2022

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 10 June 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

lol

Spottie, Friday, 10 June 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

need both of them and also bojan bogdanovic and bogdan bogdanovic all on the same team

ciderpress, Friday, 10 June 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link

the hornets get kenny atkinson, the rich mans’s james borrego

call all destroyer, Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

i think that’s a nice move for them

J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

oh yeah i’m not trying to throw shade, he’s a good coach and will really help them.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link

Anthony Davis: "I haven't shot a basketball since probably April 5th." pic.twitter.com/5V7hzptXf8

— 𝙎𝙝𝙪𝙗𝙝 ⁶𓅓 (@OVOLakeShow) June 12, 2022

Spottie, Sunday, 12 June 2022 08:18 (one year ago) link

same

ciderpress, Sunday, 12 June 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

Anthony Davis trying to find a gold’s gym with a hoop open past 10 pm

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 12 June 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

donovan mitchell posted photos on his IG story working out with bam and hanging out with jimmy… this trade request is hurtling at the jazz franchise like an asteroid

J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2022 05:58 (one year ago) link

lmao v subtle

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 13 June 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link

imagine youre tyler herro getting traded from miami to utah lmao

lag∞n, Monday, 13 June 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

jack harlow to eve barlow real quick

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 13 June 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

lmao

k3vin k., Monday, 13 June 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

ESPN Sources: Denver is trading F JaMychal Green and a protected 2027 first-round pick to Oklahoma City for the No. 30 pick in this month’s NBA Draft and two future second-round picks. Nuggets have No. 21 and 30 in this draft now and Thunder has Nos. 2, 12 and 34.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 13, 2022

trades!

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 13 June 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

i’m sure that pick is heavily protected but dumping a first/jamming up your trade flexibility just to get rid of jamychal green and get a first round pick that is prob worthless…. hmm

J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

In the future there will be no lottery, you'll just have to beg OKC for one

Three POUNDS? Damn, Trezz. https://t.co/5bXVfT4IXV

— Bryan Toporek (@btoporek) June 13, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

I see nothing wrong with buying in bulk

Heez, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

anybody see HUSTLE yet? watched it last night, basically just a cameo-fest but anthony edwards was great

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 June 2022 11:52 (one year ago) link

I thought it was pretty fun in that semi decent Netflix movie way, Ant was really great. I have a soft spot for Sandler in sad schlump mode.

Pretending Juancho was some super human hoops phenom required some suspension of disbelief

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

wouldve been better if it were a hyper realistic story of a low level scout working to bring two well known mediocre spanish brothers to the nba

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

negotiating the buyout with their teams, trying to get a first round promise, finding them a place to stay, thats the stuff

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

I read that as "mediocre splash brothers" and was like, jeez, cut Klay some slack.

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Thursday, 16 June 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

the mediocre splash brothers are james harden and danny green

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link

Not nice.

Cabernet Frank (PBKR), Thursday, 16 June 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link

im just saying who they are

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 June 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

kings in win now mode

Pistons, Pacers, Knicks reportedly interested in trade for Kings’ No. 4 pick https://t.co/fvjbajjeAC

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) June 18, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 June 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link

when youve got dom sabonis and deaaron fox you just go all in for that 8th seed

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 18 June 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

if you dont love that you dont love kings basketball

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 June 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

that is bleak.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 June 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

wonder if ivey might move up to 3rd are teams really so sold on n

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 June 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link

banchero

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 June 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

feels like this trade would guarantee that Holmgren falls to fourth and becomes a phenomenon

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 18 June 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

every player with all-star potential is flawed coming into this draft, gonna be a few teams talking themselves out of certain guys. the knock on paolo is ironically size (arms too short to box out with god) and lack of lateral speed which limits his defensive options. jabari can't self-create or finish inside. chet is the monstar shawn bradley and ppl will have questions (fair or not) about his body in the nba. ivey is gonna confuse ppl that he's the next ja but that's probably not his ceiling.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 18 June 2022 15:28 (one year ago) link

banchero looks like tall derozan tbh

micah, Saturday, 18 June 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

early detroit-era blake ime

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 18 June 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

yeah he doesnt have the physical gifts and his college stats were only ok could def see an athletic freak like ivy passing him up

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 June 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

I can tell the hawks are trying to move Collins by the amount of his highlights they keep posting on twitter

Heez, Saturday, 18 June 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

banchero measured 6’10.5 without shoes, which was bigger than teams were expecting, i think

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Saturday, 18 June 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

wonder if the warriors told him he can have the job after kerr leaves

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 June 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

lol rough

I’m told the Hornets were not aware Kenny Atkinson was not taking the head coaching job until @wojespn tweeted the news.

Still working to confirm.

— Will Kunkel (@WillKunkelFOX) June 18, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 June 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

poverty franchise

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 18 June 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

He prob saw miles bridges ig post from a few weeks back

Spottie, Saturday, 18 June 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

love to personally humiliate michael "air" jordan

Clay, Saturday, 18 June 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

challenge him to a game of chance (non-basketball version)

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 18 June 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

could just be they gave him more money, seems like there's not really a budget over there

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 18 June 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

Word has been for a few months that he and his fam really just love it in the bay and he loves his job.

Spottie, Saturday, 18 June 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link

the reporting implies that he and charlotte developed some kind of disconnect after it was announced, which really could be.....any number of things, we're talking about charlotte.

lead assistant for the warriors is a sweet gig to fall back on.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 19 June 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

oh yeah lets do this

Sources: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn, clearing way for the seven-time All-Star to consider the open market. Lakers and Knicks expected to emerge among potential suitors.

Inside Pass at @TheAthletic: https://t.co/VbOOtrzdTB

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 20, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 20 June 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link

Potential suitors list needs to include other things besides basketball teams... shamanic retreat centers etc

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 20 June 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

conscious tshirt brands, vegan meat companies

lag∞n, Monday, 20 June 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

haterade wholesalers

Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 June 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

Anybody got access to this?

NBA draft = NBA trade season ... so here's a jam-packed What We're Hearing column with all the weekend scuttle leading off with lots of Hawks talk and more on Indiana, Detroit, Memphis, Golden State, Denver, Dallas and Charlotte: https://t.co/Df4QnSgSQv

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 20, 2022

Heez, Monday, 20 June 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

kinda crazy to me that marks & the nets don’t catch more heat for how poorly this whole era has gone. they’re gonna end up having given up everything to acquire kyrie and harden to win a total of a single playoff series and be left as, at best, the 4th best team in the east with no way to meaningfully improve their roster. just a total failure!

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 June 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

As casino owners will tell you, high rollers lose big more often than they win big.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 20 June 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

yeah but if you have kevin durant on your team basketball should be a rigged game. you shouldn’t be losing to the house.

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 June 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

if kyrie walks and the nets get nothing in return its a total disaster, i mean it already is obv but people should be fired at that point.

Spottie, Monday, 20 June 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

if they dont want to resign kyrie they shd prob just trade him and kd, theres no future without kyrie and prob theres no future with him anyway

lag∞n, Monday, 20 June 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

lol i totally forgot about ben simmons what a mess

lag∞n, Monday, 20 June 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

package deal KD back to OKC?

Spottie, Monday, 20 June 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

kd to seattle

lag∞n, Monday, 20 June 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

lol i totally forgot about ben simmons what a mess

― lag∞n, Monday, June 20, 2022 10:45 AM (forty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah thats the thing, on paper and skill/fit wise it makes sense kyrie/kd/ben but then you look at the personalities..

Spottie, Monday, 20 June 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

also kyrie just never plays, has terrible vibes, and talks about managing the team after just not showing up to work because er didnt feel like it for the entire three years hes been with them

lag∞n, Monday, 20 June 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

kd to the celtics so they can beat the warriors lol

lag∞n, Monday, 20 June 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

Feels like lots of crazy stuff is spring loaded this week

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 June 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

As well it ought to be. Crazy trades make the offseason way more interesting.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 20 June 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

Miami’s PJ Tucker will opt out of his $7.4 million player option for the 2022-23 season and enter free agency, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Several championship contending teams are expected to compete for Tucker, who was a key part of Milwaukee’s title run in 2021.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 20, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 20 June 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link

Come back to Milwaukee my man

frogbs, Monday, 20 June 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link

yeah but if you have kevin durant on your team basketball should be a rigged game. you shouldn’t be losing to the house.

Perhaps it's time to acknowledge Durant is not the dynasty creating superstar on his own and requires an environment and leadership culture he can't cultivate on his own to win.

octobeard, Monday, 20 June 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link

The Hornets are looking to trade one of their two first-round picks alongside Gordon Hayward to clear cap space for retaining Miles Bridges, per @WindhorstESPN.

— Evan Sidery (@esidery) June 21, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

i would do that deal if i was a number of teams. hayward was good last year he just got hurt again

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link

man I would very much simply hate to be the hornets

k3vin k., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link

Yah it ain’t pretty.

Spottie, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

actually nailing/developing a mid lottery pick but then having to attach a first to your obviously horrible free agent signing simply so that you can dump his salary and give the one good pick you've made his second contract... ladies and gentleman, michael jordan

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link

it just sucks. they're not a serious franchise at all and good players are going to languish there until something changes.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 02:02 (one year ago) link

meanwhile, this cracked me up

I mean, sometimes you get excited when you're starting a new job, and you just wind up saying stuff https://t.co/XvkZnO3YRS

— Dan Devine (@YourManDevine) June 22, 2022

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 02:02 (one year ago) link

Matt Armstrong wrote this on thread NBA 2020-21 reg season 1st half thread on board I Love Hoops on Jan 12, 2021

Remember when people thought the hornets signing Hayward was a huge blunder

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 02:07 (one year ago) link

I don't understand the "cap space for retaining Bridges" claim though, can't you still go beyond the cap to re-sign your own guys?

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 02:21 (one year ago) link

they prob just dont want to pay the tax

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link

Source: Wizards star Bradley Beal will decline his $36.4 million player option for the 2022-23 season and become an unrestricted free agent this summer, @hoopshype has learned. More on Beal’s future, Bobby Portis, Nicolas Batum, and others in the story. https://t.co/sT8KU2qBUr

— Michael Scotto (@MikeAScotto) June 22, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 02:31 (one year ago) link

xp yes, that is 100% management-side reporting claiming they need to move hayward to pay bridges, which they don't need to do at all.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 02:41 (one year ago) link

Sources: Sixers pursuing P.J. Tucker; Matisse Thybulle and a pick being shopped to create cap space https://t.co/YZ8Z1Qx2rT via @phillyinquirer

— Keith Pompey (@PompeyOnSixers) June 22, 2022



selling off picks and players to sign a 37 year old to a 3 year contract…

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 06:06 (one year ago) link

Woj on ESPN’s mock draft just now:

If you’re a GM who hasn’t gotten an offer from the Sixers involving pick No. 23 and Matisse Thybulle, “You probably have had your phone shut off”

— Kyle Neubeck (@KyleNeubeck) June 22, 2022



not sure thybulle is helping matters for the sixers here

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 06:08 (one year ago) link

Four months ago he could have included Thybulle instead of Curry in the Harden deal, but no . . .

Cabernet Frank (PBKR), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 11:14 (one year ago) link

really hoping that the nuggets select nikola jovic

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link

selling off picks and players to sign a 37 year old to a 3 year contract…
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, June 22, 2022 2:06 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

da gm genius

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

gemius

ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

dork elvis (stojko)

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

Milwaukee Bucks guard Pat Connaughton is exercising his $5.7 million option to return for the 2022-2023 season, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 22, 2022

wonder if there's some under the table deal here cuz one would think he could get at least 10

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

he is one of giannis' buddies so i would suspect they have something lined up for him after this contract

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

The Sixers are attempting to trade Tobias Harris but finding no team willing to take on his contract, per @PompeyOnSixers.

— Evan Sidery (@esidery) June 22, 2022



that’s a shame

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

this seems like the route for connaughton

One possibility to explain Connaughton -- he and Bucks eligible to sign an extension next month starting as high as ~$12M a year and going as long as 4 years; so the opt-in could be part of a bigger play here.

— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) June 22, 2022

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

The Hawks’ goal is to trade John Collins before the draft begins, per @JakeLFischer.

— Evan Sidery (@esidery) June 22, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

for who Evan?

Heez, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

i know they want to open space for Okongwu which i appreciate, but we better get something here.

Heez, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link

TRADES

Detroit has traded Jerami Grant to Portland for 2025 first-round pick via Milwaukee, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 22, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

that’s good I like this

Clay, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 21:57 (one year ago) link

yeah good move for them

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

solid trade

brimstead, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

great to get him for a bad first, i guess we’ll see what the contract is

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 22:50 (one year ago) link

thinking a little more about this deal and i realized it closes the circle on the cj trade to new orleans with that bucks pick heading out, so ultimately that deal shakes out to CJ and larry nance jr for jerami grant and josh hart which is a much better deal!

Clay, Thursday, 23 June 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

we all love 2025 first round picks

ciderpress, Thursday, 23 June 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link

im high on the 2025 draft

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link

we will be so happy, biden will be reelected and finally put the trump years behind us, players will vibe off that

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 23 June 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

2028 sounds like a fake year that could never happen. 2025 is fine though

ciderpress, Thursday, 23 June 2022 01:04 (one year ago) link

The Suns don’t view Deandre Ayton as a max-level player and are very motivated to find a sign-and-trade, per @wojespn.

— Evan Sidery (@esidery) June 23, 2022



They better get something good or that pick goes down as one of the all time worst

Spottie, Thursday, 23 June 2022 02:44 (one year ago) link

oh cmon there's some stiff competition there. but this is a unique situation in that it seems like the Suns themselves are the ones revealing to everyone else that he's fools gold

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 23 June 2022 02:50 (one year ago) link

hes fine hes just not worth a max.

micah, Thursday, 23 June 2022 02:51 (one year ago) link

yeah but he's got that tantalizing young big man thing that teams find irresistible. they surely could have kept their cards closer to their chest and traded him for some good stuff. now they've telegraphed to the world that they don't think he's worthy of being part of their core

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 23 June 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link

whatever one thinks of ayton it's just really hard for me to believe that the suns know what they're doing

call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 June 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link

looking more and more like that's the case sadly. RIP suns, your vibes were exquisite

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 23 June 2022 02:53 (one year ago) link

must be a Ben Simmons type situation brewing here because during last year's Finals I thought it was no doubt he was worth the max

frogbs, Thursday, 23 June 2022 03:00 (one year ago) link

the suns front office is not to be trusted but the fact that they’ve gotten an up close view at him and are like “yeah we’re good” would definitely concern me. he did pose for a whole story about how he sleeps 2 hours per night so he can get higher scores on 2K so there might be something there…

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 June 2022 03:05 (one year ago) link

i think he got overrated in the playoffs last year… he played well against a bunch of injured teams two of whom didn’t have real big men and then he got sonned by giannis and was not a factor in the mavs series this year. i think there’s a bunch of teams who could defensibly max him but it’s also totally reasonable to say the suns could trade him and change their roster and get better

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 June 2022 03:08 (one year ago) link

oh cmon there's some stiff competition there. but this is a unique situation in that it seems like the Suns themselves are the ones revealing to everyone else that he's fools gold


Stiff competition from the same draft even.

Spottie, Thursday, 23 June 2022 03:14 (one year ago) link

there's definitely something there with the offcourt stuff and he was definitely overrated after last years playoffs. but i guess my approach would be to try to work with him rather than make it clear to the entire league that i was done with him? he doesn't get hurt, he's good at a lot of different things, and he's statistically productive. i'm not sure i see the sign and trade that makes them better and i don't really have confidence that their front office will go out and find it. are his flaws really so fatal that the right position is to move on from him no matter what? i'm not sure i see that.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 June 2022 03:17 (one year ago) link

Rumors that book and the coach hate him so if that’s true then idk what they can do

Spottie, Thursday, 23 June 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link

yeah that's weird....usually when a player is hated that's evinced somehow in his play on the court? i don't recall ayton being a disaster out there.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 June 2022 03:30 (one year ago) link

He was in the Dallas series. And kinda just ho hum all playoffs.

Spottie, Thursday, 23 June 2022 03:44 (one year ago) link

Ayton is one of the weirder talents I can remember. Like there’s just something missing.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 23 June 2022 04:07 (one year ago) link

i don't think moving on from ayton no matter what is the suns choice. they might be happy to keep him for the right $. but ayton is telling them it is max or nothing so a sign and trade is their best option. i wouldnt want to be the team that maxes ayton.

sure they could have drafted someone else (cant think if who) but that ship has sailed

micah, Thursday, 23 June 2022 05:07 (one year ago) link

wonder what theyre going to do when detroit maxs out ayton

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 11:17 (one year ago) link

what da fuck is going on here

Paolo Banchero now favored to be No. 1 pick https://t.co/v6sod0sYQT

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) June 23, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 11:39 (one year ago) link

lotta chatter that houston is trying to move up to no 1 to grab paolo bc okc might take him instead of chet. i feel like presti is the best at getting teams nervous.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 23 June 2022 12:52 (one year ago) link

feels weird to see all this chatter about betting markets for something that is just an organization's choice. i'm sure betting on the draft has happened in the past, but i don't remember seeing much about it in previous years.

circles, Thursday, 23 June 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

sports betting is bigger than ever baby, uncut gems was not just a movie, it was a recruiting pitch

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 23 June 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link

i will take one Dejounte Murray for one John Collins

Heez, Thursday, 23 June 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link

it will probably cost you okongwu and multiple draft picks as well, including this year's #16, you still want to?

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 23 June 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link

no

Heez, Thursday, 23 June 2022 13:40 (one year ago) link

you cannot have Okongwu that's ridiculous. you can have the 16 tho

Heez, Thursday, 23 June 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link

spurs are not going to trade dejounte for anything short of a godfather offer

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 23 June 2022 13:42 (one year ago) link

i'm sure. and we'll end up trading for fucking harrison barnes

Heez, Thursday, 23 June 2022 13:42 (one year ago) link

lol or gobert! dont forget rudy.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 23 June 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link

feels weird to see all this chatter about betting markets for something that is just an organization's choice. i'm sure betting on the draft has happened in the past, but i don't remember seeing much about it in previous years.

― circles, Thursday, June 23, 2022 8:15 AM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

even weirder that you can bet on like, the winner of reality shows. the results of which have been known to 100+ people for months.

frogbs, Thursday, 23 June 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

sports betting is bigger than ever baby, uncut gems was not just a movie, it was a recruiting pitch

― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, June 23, 2022 9:19 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

need to be howard

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

i am a weirdo who thinks gambling is kind of bad, did not realize you could bet on reality show winners, lolol

sports betting is bigger than ever baby, uncut gems was not just a movie, it was a recruiting pitch

does this mean if i open a caesar's sportsbook account julia fox will be my girlfriend???

circles, Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link

As team boards finalize today, the 1-2-3 of the NBA Draft is increasingly firm, per sources: Jabari Smith to Orlando, Chet Holmgren to Oklahoma City and Paolo Banchero to Houston.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 23, 2022



woj isn’t buying it

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

yes, and then she will say "uncut jams" bc basketball

xp

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

this is the order i approve of

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

the okc cool team of weirdos

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

so anyway who comes out victorious in the battle royale of untradeable contracts: russ or john wall?

blame it on the modelo (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

they both win (get overpaid)

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

neither of them will be traded unless their teams want to attach draft picks which the lakers might want to but the rockets do not

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

the winners were the wizards

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

statements rarely said

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link

more of a nice save than a win

ciderpress, Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

lol

The Lakers had been working to move into the draft and now land with an early second-round pick tonight. https://t.co/17f312LhUL

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 23, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

everyone stoked for the big night

48 hours... pic.twitter.com/UZMP9Rwraz

— TF (@ThunderFocus) June 21, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

was that taken in a wax museum

call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

chet looking like he’s in franz ferdinand

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

take me out (of okc, it sucks here)

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 23 June 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

Skinny tie for the skinny lad.

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Thursday, 23 June 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

ESPN Sources: If Kyrie Irving can’t reach an agreement to stay with Brooklyn, he has a list of teams he’d like them to consider on sign-and-trades, including Lakers, Clippers, Knicks, Heat, Mavs and 76ers. None of those teams have cap space to sign him without Nets’ help.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 23, 2022



Sources: Kevin Durant is monitoring the Brooklyn Nets’ situation and considering options with his future.

This now opens the path for Kyrie Irving to proceed on finding a new home via opt-in and trade.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 23, 2022



so we’re reaching the breaking point here huh

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

seems like a bluff no? best move for both is to stay and they are just trying to ensure the nets pay kyrie?

Spottie, Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link

but i guess we never know w these two weirdos

Spottie, Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link

the kyrie stuff seems legit to me, the relationship there just doesn’t seem right. you have kyrie saying he and KD need to be co-managing the franchise along with the GM and owner but you have the GM refusing to commit to kyrie publicly and saying they need players who care about the game

and then if you’re KD and your team is you, ben simmons and a bunch of role players do you really think you’re getting past boston, milwaukee, miami etc? why not look at forcing your way out

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

kyrie's a fucking psycho but also if he leaves the nets aren't going anywhere, so obviously KD has to explore options

mookieproof, Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link

not sure i'd be surprised if kyrie's just out of the league in 2-3 years, on the lecture circuit, maybe being a casual internet psycho

Clay, Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

its a bummer since he was a fun player on the court but if he doesnt want to play basketball what can you do

ciderpress, Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

the kyrie story needs to end with him on the lakers back with bron, missing the playoffs

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

woj just said on tv that banchero is in the mix for #1 baby

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link

bout to do some pickin, might do some grinnin

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:41 (one year ago) link

oh and there he is making it official

As I just reported on our NBA Draft Show on ESPN, Duke's Paolo Banchero has joined Auburn's Jabari Smith under serious consideration to be franchise's No. 1 overall pick, sources said. There's a real chance draft boards could get blown up at the top of the lottery.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 23, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:41 (one year ago) link

personally love too blow up draft boards at the top of the lottery

Clay, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:41 (one year ago) link

its pretty cool

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:42 (one year ago) link

i feel like this may end up being a boring night but i really hope i’m wrong

call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:43 (one year ago) link

woj is the joker

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:43 (one year ago) link

it's draft day we're all the joker on this special day of killing the batman

Clay, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

sometimes u just wonder if they had just given the joker a ball and a place to play instead of a childhood full of trauma, what mightve been he wouldve had to change his name to the hooper

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

i feel like this may end up being a boring night but i really hope i’m wrong

― call all destroyer, Thursday, June 23, 2022 7:43 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

read somewhere that there are lots of teams that want to move up or down which could lead to trades

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:48 (one year ago) link

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b4/f1/7a/b4f17a338c0de4dbe892310a851aa4f6.jpg

hello friends duh

Clay, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link

not holding a 2L bottle of coke, not authentic enough

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link

love these awkward introductions very nice

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

paolo's suit is very disturbing

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link

its got many things hanging off of it?

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link

i don't like little things on things, e.g. i like the olivia rodrigo album but do not like the cover photo

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:06 (one year ago) link

loved loved loved the c. 1996 computer graphics depicting the history of orlando's #1 picks

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

lol, snes themed brodcast

circles, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

i dig it

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

wow they did it lol

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

the magic have really changed their ways passed on long guys two years in a row

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

speaking of the joker that's who paolo borrowed this suit from

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

perk calling banchero a combo of michael beasley and ben simmons oh no

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

i need a perk mute button to enjoy this fully

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link

trying to get a good look at this shit on paolos suit

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link

love it! chet to okc baby!

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link

thats what i wanted for him

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

adore okc's team of total freaks and weirdos

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

it's really perfect

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

chets dad and sister are both very tall

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

not as tall as chet tho chets the tallest chets the boss

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

okc team is super weird haah

Spottie, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

Grande femme I, by Alberto Giacometti, 1960 pic.twitter.com/jDogm6PNpT

— ArtButMakeItSports (@ArtButSports) June 24, 2022

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

https://tomandlorenzo.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Dark-Phoenix-X-Men-Movie-Premiere-Red-Carpet-Fashion-Rundown-Tom-Lorenzo-Site-10.jpg

lol yes i can't help but think of kodi smit mcphee's weird red carpet looks when i see chet

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

oh wow, thank you for alerting me to this--i have heard of him but did not know he did lewks

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

do you think perk would break double digits on a MOCA?

k3vin k., Friday, 24 June 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

excited for the chet & poku lineup

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

murray seems fun, sucks he's going to the kings

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

Keegan-Murray Key?

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Friday, 24 June 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link

lol jaden ivey is insanely nervous hes freaking out

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

just weeping with joy that sacramento passed on him

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

hahahah

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link

do you think perk would break double digits on a MOCA?

― k3vin k., Thursday, June 23, 2022 8:25 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Dude would murder a salted caramel mochaccino.

Salvador Dalí Mini-Me (PBKR), Friday, 24 June 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

Lol perk: OG andGinobli

Spottie, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link

good on jaden ivey for convincing the kings to not pick him or even pick him to trade him

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 June 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link

happy with mathurin

micah, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link

oh huh the blazers picked the guy who hasn't played well that should work out well

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link

might be a steal!

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

itisamystery.jpg

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

wasn't anfernee simons also a guy who hadn't played?

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 June 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

simons played prep ball at a development academy and bypassed college, sharpe went to kentucky and then held himself out because he apparently felt like playing would only hurt his draft position? or something? idk lots of sketchy stuff surrounding him seems like and i tend to be down on guys who do not want to ball

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link

jalen duren is the guy in this draft that i have an irrational good feeling about, hope the knicks take him

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

if you have good feelings about someone you should not wish they become an employee of the new york knicks

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

fun fact: if he is selected, he becomes the owner

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

duren has some rob williams to his game

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

always delightful when the knicks select a non-american

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

knicks traded the pick, this is OKC's selection

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

knicks fans booed for nothing

circles, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

okc has the next pick too, weird, must have really wanted this guy + whoever they're taking now

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:14 (one year ago) link

gotta do SOMETHING with those 4000 picks

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link

i was super confused before that trade was announced, talk about an extremely OKC guy who is an extremely non-knicks guy

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link

i'm gonna watch like 40 okc games next year

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link

also props to okc for making the knicks announce the (presumably) weirder of their back to back picks

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:17 (one year ago) link

i'm gonna watch like 40 okc games next year

― Clay, Thursday, June 23, 2022 9:16 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's really coming together down there

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:17 (one year ago) link

imagining chet, poku, and ousmane all on the floor at the same time ^_^

circles, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link

and they just picked a guy i have literally never heard of

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link

the telecast is completely unwatchable, the talking heads don’t know who any of the players are or what machinations are happening behind the scenes

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:19 (one year ago) link

pretty crazy that jalen roses mom made up the name and now 50% of nba players are named jalen

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:20 (one year ago) link

which one? theres different casts on abc and espn but they're both bad in different ways

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:20 (one year ago) link

xp feels like losing mike schmitz has really killed them

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:21 (one year ago) link

both, honestly

xp

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:22 (one year ago) link

whoa i had no idea there was an abc telecast. i've been watching espn with malika, bilas, perk, woj, and bobby marks

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:22 (one year ago) link

nba draft on network primetime my lord

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

yeah you have a sophie's choice of perk or stephen a smith

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

stephen a is on it and he hasn’t watched a game of college basketball since st. johns had chris mullins

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

Sources: Hornets traded Jalen Duren to the Knicks.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 24, 2022

The Pistons are acquiring Jalen Duren at No. 13 in a trade, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 24, 2022

waht

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:25 (one year ago) link

there's two of him, thats a new draft day twist

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link

damn this jalen situation is out of control

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

experimental physics nba draft

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/SqjkHRa7l9

— pickuphoop (@pickuphoop) June 24, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

hahah the best part of this was me getting up for a minute and thinking to myself that it made sense for charlotte to grab a center prospect who was slipping

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:29 (one year ago) link

ok

Knicks acquired Jalen Duren -- and moved him with Kemba Walker to the Pistons, sources said. https://t.co/kzyljkrFnI

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 24, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:29 (one year ago) link

in truth there's not even one jalen duren and all this noise is meant to convince us he exists

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:30 (one year ago) link

there are too many jalens and too many guys from canada

k3vin k., Friday, 24 June 2022 01:30 (one year ago) link

there should be a guy named jalen toronto he would be the ultimate 12th pick

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

wd watch jalen toronto, gen z p.i., now streaming on hulu

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link

The Pistons are sending the Hornets the 2025 first-round pick via Milwaukee in the Duren trade, sources tell ESPN. Detroit got that pick from Portland in the Jerami Grant deal yesterday.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 24, 2022

still unclear what the knicks are doing in here

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link

They got out from under the Kemba contract? Did they get a pick?

Salvador Dalí Mini-Me (PBKR), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

something has to be going back to them and i haven't seen what it is yet

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

god i hate when the shamses use 'moved' for 'traded'

mookieproof, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

On top of the future first-round pick, the #Hornets also acquired four second-round picks in the deal for Jalen Duren, league sources tell @theobserver.

— Rod Boone (@rodboone) June 24, 2022

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link

hornets quickly becoming the most indecipherable team

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

hahah what. have the hornets ever done business that good?

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

still unclear what the knicks got in any of these trades

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:47 (one year ago) link

cap space to go after jalen brunson

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:48 (one year ago) link

#jalenszn

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:48 (one year ago) link

they got negative kemba walker

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:48 (one year ago) link

jalen brunson is sure to be a difference maker in the knicks’ quest to win the ncaa title

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link

confession time i do not know who is on the knicks besides julius randle

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link

i don't get the brunson thing at all

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link

the knicks have not had a good point guard since the first bush administration

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

he's a nice player but if he were a star i'm pretty sure we would know that by now

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:57 (one year ago) link

overpaying for second options, it’s what the knicks do

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 June 2022 02:00 (one year ago) link

When has that ever stopped the Knicks?
xp lol

Salvador Dalí Mini-Me (PBKR), Friday, 24 June 2022 02:00 (one year ago) link

take jalen duren and let mitch rob walk? no, that would be too easy

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 June 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link

just learning about david roddy, i hope he makes it

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 02:23 (one year ago) link

i was promised one hundred trades

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 02:31 (one year ago) link

Roddy is a super super cool player and it would be great for the game if it works

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 24 June 2022 02:40 (one year ago) link

Boom

The Kings are trading No. 37 to the Mavericks for two future second-round picks, source tells ESPN. Dallas is focused on Jaden Hardy with pick.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 24, 2022

perk calling banchero a combo of michael beasley and ben simmons oh no


this was easily the highlight of the night

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 05:48 (one year ago) link

the heat drafted an international player for the first time in 20 years. i’m all in on jovic after watching 4 mins of his highlights

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

haha he's definitely a high variance pick

in other news the spurs drafted 2 shooting guards last night with the picks they acquired from trading derrick white and thad young, and at this point it feels like a 2k glitch

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

i remember thinking all their picks were interesting potential upside plays but also like they might end up with more keldon johnsons, lonnie walkers and devin vassells

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

that's kind of their type. i went back and looked and since 2016 they've had 10 first rounders. 8 of them have been 6'4" or 6'5" combo guards or wings. the only two that werent were luka samanic (lol, didnt even finish his rookie contract) and now sochan (who im VERY high on, wooooooo)

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

branham is the only guy ive seen where i can see the scoring upside because he's such a good shooter. primo pick last year still confuses me, and the team is allegedly very high on primo still, like they think he'll be the franchise PG in a few years (which is part of where some of the dejounte trade rumors could've come from)

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

Wolves got one big ole white boy

i tend to be down on guys who do not want to ball

Every time I see Shaedon Sharpe in an article it mentions his amazing vertical leap, and every time I see that I remember the Blazers drafting Charlie Yelverton in the early 70s and every article about him mentioned his amazing vertical leap. Yelverton lasted one year on the bench of what was still an expansion team, then played in Europe.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 24 June 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

that sounds like a you problem...

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

ahahaha i have my doubts about sharpe though, but mostly because i have no idea how to project him based on his limited run.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

if he's as dynamic an athlete and scorer as people say he is then i think it was prob a no brainer pick for them

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

mike schmitz who obv just got hired by the blazers wrote the little scouting blurb for espn on sharpe, kinda interesting to read now

Outlook: This latest viewing was a reminder of just how physically talented and skilled Sharpe truly is, and there's a real argument to be made that he's the best perimeter prospect in this 2022 class, should he opt to enter and stay in the draft. Depending on what you think of prospects like Jabari Smith, Chet Holmgren, Paolo Banchero and Jaden Ivey, you could make a case that he has as much long-term upside as anyone, especially with NBA teams clamoring for perimeter players who can create offense for themselves and others at all 3 levels. While I mentioned players like Anthony Edwards and Jalen Green in our Sharpe deep dive, Paul George is a name that came to mind when watching Sharpe practice. While George is clearly much taller (6-9 to Sharpe's 6-6) and more wing than guard, Sharpe is that smooth and skilled of a scorer with the potential to develop into a reliable playmaker and defender like George has. They also have a similar on-court demeanor. With all that in mind, Sharpe is truly one of the most fascinating prospects in this draft because of his immense talent yet the act that we've never truly seen him in a competitive setting with several do-or-die possessions. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised to see Sharpe ultimately go in the top-5 of the 2022 NBA draft should he opt to stay in as it'll be incredibly difficult for teams who have seen him in person to pass on his combination of physical tools and talent on the perimeter. -- Mike Schmitz

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

looks like the hawks doubled down on the great shooter/shady defense strategy with AJ Griffin

Heez, Friday, 24 June 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

I'm just saying that 'amazing vertical leaping ability' is a pretty marginal NBA skill. Same thing for 'off the charts athleticism', which all the articles also say about Sharpe. Basically, the people writing these articles don't know what else to say because what else can you say about a guy who's played so little?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 24 June 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

I'm just saying that 'amazing vertical leaping ability' is a pretty marginal NBA skill. Same thing for 'off the charts athleticism'

well, i don't think is true. most NBA players are obv exceptional athletes, but if you're "off the charts" even by those standards that still matters. ja morant, anthony edwards, early westbrook, early lebron are all guys that come to mind as unusually athletic players whose athleticism matters (or mattered) greatly in terms of being great basketball players. of course you need a certain level of skill and effort and all that but if you can jump higher than all of your opponents that gives you a huge advantage in basketball

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

yeah, thats p key. if they're teachable, they can do things that other players cant.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

looks like the hawks doubled down on the great shooter/shady defense strategy with AJ Griffin

― Heez, Friday, June 24, 2022 1:32 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

im not surprised he fell that low and i guess if you plan on moving heurter, itd be helpful to have a guy who can shoot, but i think thats all griffin can do. his defense wasnt just shaky, it was awful. he'll be a bench shooter if he cant fully rehab from all the injuries he's had.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

yeah not holding out much hope for the kid

Heez, Friday, 24 June 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

the guy who fell that i cant believe is ej liddell, he was projected in the 20s, maybe even teens, but went 41 to new orleans. undersized PF, but a good weak-side defender and had developed outside range. got some millsap to his game.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

good luck

“Rob Pelinka says he and Davin Ham have had multiple meetings with Russell Westbrook and have been honest about Russ' role on the team and that he needs to be a defense-first player.”

(via @jovanbuha) pic.twitter.com/9eJL8HUgrU

— Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) June 24, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 24 June 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

lmao excellent photo choice

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link

yeah re shaedon sharpe he was the #1 prospect for next years draft before he reclassified, seems like a pretty good risk at 7 to me

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

indiana should have gone after him, they need someone with upside

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

as someone who doesn't follow this closely at all, are nba cap/draft pick/contract shenanigans the most complicated in sports?

it's crazy to me how everyone is always dealing six future draft picks, half of them protected, in a three-team trade, so they can buy out the actual player they receive

also that despite all this the lakers are still stuck with russ

mookieproof, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

i dont follow the other sports enough to really know what is most complicated but it does seem like the nba is

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

seems like a pretty good risk at 7 to me

I don't disagree. The most heartening thing I've read about Sharpe so far is that Dame watched all the guys who worked out for the Blazers and he was enthused about picking him. I presume the private work-out and personal interviews for the team contained a lot more info about him, his abilities and his mindset than anyone in the media has access to. All the media types can analyze is what's out in public.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 24 June 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

the nfl has some weird stuff with all of the contract restructuring you can do to move money around, but the nba is probably still much more complex than that.

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

always assumed it's a little more loosey goosey in the other leagues bc the rosters are so much larger so there needs to be wiggle room for the 40 guys on the team nobody knows about

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

in baseball you can’t even trade normal draft picks (‘competitive balance’ picks are an exception)

mookieproof, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

thats crazy trading draft picks is so sweet the fans go wild for it

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

nba is definitely overly complex with the roster rules, a bunch of it is old rules that had a purpose at one point but might no longer that have ossified and accumulated

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

baseball draft is way more of a crapshoot than nba anyway 1st round picks wouldnt be worth as much there

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

The situation between the Nets and Kyrie Irving is getting acrimonious, per @wojespn on NBA Today.

— Evan Sidery (@esidery) June 24, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

that’s a shame

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

sending light and love

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

wild

Pistons have presented Jaden Ivey with jerseys of his grandfather, father and mother, all of whom have played in Detroit professionally.

Ivey is tearing up

— James Edwards III (@JLEdwardsIII) June 24, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

i don't think the NBA is any more or less complex than other leagues when it comes to roster rules -- the rules about service time and minor league options and trigger deadlines in MLB are far more complex than the two way system in the NBA -- but putting protections on picks is unique to the NBA. part of that is because the other sports don't have lotteries so you're dealing w/ an extra level of uncertainty w/ future NBA picks, but i think it also is done to purposefully facilitate transactions which is overall a net positive for the league even if it becomes overly complex a lot of the time. in baseball you have prospects driving most transactions but the NBA doesn't have that element, instead picks are the currency and allowing teams to protect picks obviously makes them feel more comfortable about trading (and also receiving) picks

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

the crazy thing about the NBA to me is that teams are seemingly allowed -- if they can -- to invent new ways to structure contracts and protect picks... like the rules are not already set out. it's kind of a wild west where if you and the other team agree on a way to protect the pick then the league will agree to it. thinking of i.e. daryl morey inventing the reverse protection in trading kyle lowry to the raptors. also daryl inventing the poison pill w/ the jeremy lin offer sheet

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

I read that Kyrie has a list of teams to which he will accept a sign and trade, a list that includes the Sixers and I'm just trying to imagine the look on Harden's face if that somehow happened.

the list of teams that want to trade for him got to be a lot shorter

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link

who is going to put up with kyrie at this point that is also not a desperate loser of a franchise

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

its only the lakers

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

NHL does have a lottery and picks can be traded, but the market isn't as hectic as the NBA. clearly it needs a daryl morey

(when its cap first came in there was a spate of like 12-year hugely front-loaded contracts -- because the cap hit was salary average per year -- but the league soon closed that loophole)

mookieproof, Friday, 24 June 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

oh boy haha

Creep by Radiohead but it’s about being drafted by the Sacramento Kings

a new ICE2ICE single from me and @jga41agher pic.twitter.com/xUkekHi1mt

— Isaac K. Lee (@IsaacKLee) June 24, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 24 June 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

lol ok

Steve Clifford reportedly will return to coach Charlotte Hornets https://t.co/Hg9SltX5ij

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) June 24, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

What on earth

Spottie, Friday, 24 June 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

hornets quickly becoming the most indecipherable team

― ciderpress, Thursday, June 23, 2022 9:44 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

How could they not find somebody new lmao what a mess

Spottie, Friday, 24 June 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link

not sure about this guy michael jordan

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link

dont know much about him will research

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 23:40 (one year ago) link

they should hire a guy named Will Research

Heez, Saturday, 25 June 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

Russ broke the cardinal sin and acknowledged skip

Yoooo… watch your mouth. Don’t say anything here you wouldn’t say to my face. https://t.co/0u8nFXYLY8

— Russell Westbrook (@russwest44) June 25, 2022

Spottie, Saturday, 25 June 2022 03:37 (one year ago) link

honestly, westbrook fighting skip in person is just what this league needs

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 25 June 2022 03:41 (one year ago) link

just finding out the thunder took guys named jaylen williams and jaylin williams

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:09 (one year ago) link

also reflecting upon the fact that the knicks traded a first and four seconds to get rid of kembas $9m expiring contract??

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:12 (one year ago) link

look at this trade it does even have a knicks receive section

Charlotte receives:

• 2023 first-round pick (from Denver via Oklahoma City and New York)
• 2023 second-round pick (via New York)
• 2023 second-round pick (via Utah)
• 2023 second-round pick (most favorable of Dallas/Miami)
• 2024 second-round pick (via New York)

Detroit receives:

• 2022 draft rights to Jalen Duren (via Charlotte)
• Kemba Walker (via New York)

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:16 (one year ago) link

isnt one second round pick more like the usual price to dispose of a expiring mid level contract

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:19 (one year ago) link

That doesn't list the other two firsts NYK received iiuc.

Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:23 (one year ago) link

right it shouldnt have the jalen duran part in there basically just in terms of the knicks they traded the 11th pick for three conditional firsts lets call that one trade, then they traded one of those firsts kemba walker and four seconds for nothing?

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:39 (one year ago) link

nm im confused heres the whole sick story

Knicks-Thunder trade
Knicks receive:

2023 first round pick via Detroit (protected 1-18 until 2024, protected 1-13 in 2025, protected 1-11 in 2026, protected 1-9 in 2027)
2023 first round pick via Washington (protected 1-14 in 2023, protected 1-12 in 2024, protected 1-10 in 2025, protected 1-8 in 2026)
2023 first round pick via Denver (protected 1-14 until 2025)
Thunder receive:

No. 11 pick (Ousmane Dieng)
The Knicks had the No. 11 pick entering the night, and there was a lot of talk about them potentially moving up. Instead, they decided to trade out of the first round by sending that pick to the Oklahoma City Thunder in exchange for three future first rounders. While the Knicks do need help now, getting three first round picks in exchange for one is pretty good value.

Knicks-Hornets trade
Knicks receive:

No. 13 pick (Jalen Duren)
Hornets receive:

2023 first round pick via Denver (protected 1-14 until 2025)
2023 second round pick via New York
2023 second round pick via Utah
2023 second round pick (most favorable pick between Dallas and Miami)
2024 second round pick via New York
Shortly after completing the deal with the Thunder, the Knicks then got back on the phone and worked out a trade with the Charlotte Hornets. They took the 2023 first via Denver they got in the Thunder trade, and packaged it with four future seconds for the No. 13 overall pick, who would become Jalen Duren.

Knicks-Pistons trade
Knicks receive:

2025 first-round pick via Milwaukee (protected 1-4)
Pistons receive:

No. 13 pick (Jalen Duren)
Kemba Walker
Finally, the Knicks then flipped the No. 13 pick (Jalen Duren) and Kemba Walker to the Detroit Pistons in a third deal. In return, the Knicks got a 2025 first-round pick via Milwaukee, which the Pistons had previously acquired in the Jerami Grant trade earlier this week.

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:43 (one year ago) link

they really just moved the 13th pick in exchange for the bucks 2025 pick and getting off kembas deal, which also seems pretty bad but not as bad as a first and four seconds

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:45 (one year ago) link

although i guess ultimately they did trade a bad first and four seconds to get off kembas deal but also got back a bad first, so basically four seconds to get off kembas deal

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link

glad we had an opportunity to delineate this

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link

wow, it is nba trades and players

ciderpress, Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:59 (one year ago) link

I'm not really defending the Knicks' move, but trading a late lottery pick for multiple potential late lottery picks isn't the dumbest thing ever. I would be more worried about what they are going do with that Kemba cap space.

Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Saturday, 25 June 2022 13:22 (one year ago) link

all the picks they got were heavily protected i think

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

it would’ve been cool to just get jalen duren, maybe let the injury prone mitch rob go, and let kemba’s deal expire after this year.

but i am not the gm

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Saturday, 25 June 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

ppl are saying the knicks basically got the worst picks that OKC owned… plus they got the bucks first which is prob also not great. i would say in their defense that even not great first round picks give you flexibility in trades, ppl will take them on it’s not like they are worthless. and if the knicks use those in trades i could def see them improving their team more than if they would’ve just taken a guy at 11 which is prob like a 50/50 chance of getting a guy who can even hang in the NBA. if all they do with all this ammo is dump salary to give jalen brunson $130 million then never mind but it is feasible they make some moves that amount to more value than a low lottery rookie

J0rdan S., Saturday, 25 June 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

11th pick has to be better than that. looking at the 10 11th picks from the 2010s, 8 or 9 made it as rotation players and 3 are all-star level players

ciderpress, Saturday, 25 June 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

my thought when they were acquiring all these picks was that it was gonna be ammo for a kyrie trade lol, which should show you how far into the black pit of negative expectations i have fallen

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Saturday, 25 June 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

i always get nervous when teams are like “all the guys we liked were gone at 11.” really? all of them?

call all destroyer, Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

its true, every draft there are only 10 good guys and they are always taken in the first 10 picks

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

yeah teams should just accept that the draft is kind of a crapshoot and take a guy even if hes not their guy

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

but still lets be honest 4 seconds to move kembas small expiring contract is the craziest knicks move of the night

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

The Knicks trade is so weird that I can’t have an opinion on it

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

I feel like this is not justifiable for Jalen Brunson just on a moral standpoint tho. But Kyrie? Maybe

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link

kyrie will elevate the knicks back to the 8 seed

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:40 (one year ago) link

i say if you're the knicks you absolutely have to get kyrie it's your #1 option (for being weird and mediocre)

Clay, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:42 (one year ago) link

kyrie on the knicks is something that should happen all things considered

lag∞n, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:44 (one year ago) link

We do deserve it

Spottie, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

Kyrie to the lakers would do, as well

Spottie, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

the lakers would be good but i feel like we pretty much know the general parameters of what could happen there, with the low stakes dysfunctional knicks i think we could see some novel kyrie behaviors

lag∞n, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:54 (one year ago) link

* re-signs with the Washington Wizards* https://t.co/5aobq7fplp

— HEAT NATION (@Zachppp) June 23, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 01:19 (one year ago) link

the tone of the reporting around beal is changing quite a bit.....

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 June 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

pat riley on line 1 baby

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link

heat are getting one of kyrie, durant, or beal this summer

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 27 June 2022 02:11 (one year ago) link

i really don't get beal if he decides to return to the wizards. he's been there 10 years, they have no path to contention, if he ever wants to play important basketball he needs to force his way somewhere else, and nobody would blame him if he did

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link

saw some article that was like the heat are monitoring the kyrie situation... so they can get durant

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 02:23 (one year ago) link

the miami heat should not have kevin durant on their team

Clay, Monday, 27 June 2022 02:25 (one year ago) link

though watching kd and butler feel each other out in their instant locker room blinking contest would make for a fun regular season

Clay, Monday, 27 June 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link

i really don't get beal if he decides to return to the wizards. he's been there 10 years, they have no path to contention, if he ever wants to play important basketball he needs to force his way somewhere else, and nobody would blame him if he did


Beal is clearly gonna take the super max and then demand a trade I really don’t see this playing out any other way.

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link

i posted the insider article about the suns draft process (wherein james jones admits he wouldn't have drafted devin booker) on the other thread. the fall for this team is going to be fast and hard. @thl3t1c C&P for people who don't support CONTENT CREATORZ

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 June 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link

Maybe Kyrie could have, you know, explained himself

Kevin Durant is losing faith in Nets management and their handling of Kyrie Irving situation, per @loganmmurdock

“[KD] feels that the front office didn’t grow to understand Kyrie.” pic.twitter.com/xXX6N0YUGG

— Top Ball Coverage (@TopBallCoverage) June 26, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 03:36 (one year ago) link

xp seems like an approach that will get you to .500 consistently but not further

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 04:38 (one year ago) link

Omg it would be amazing if a disgruntled Simmons is left alone on the Nets.

lol that suns piece does not sound like the best way to do it

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link

i think theres actually some truths in there but the overall approach sounds bad

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link

the i would have not drafted our best player part idk maybe reconsider

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link

guy is freerolling with a team built by someone else acting like hes the nba wizard

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:08 (one year ago) link

when you can only put 5 guys on the court having at least one who's way way better than average is essential to winning and i don't know how you get there without drafting for upside when you are phoenix and not The Lakers

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

i do think its possible that a team that didnt invest much in draft scouting could keep up with the league by taking the consensus best available guy in the draft every time but thats very different from intentionally reaching for old guys

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link

yeah but youre trying to be better than the rest of the league and there are teams that consistently draft better you have to try to be one of those teams, and its not like youre saving anything besides some salaries jones reason was he doesnt want too many people at a meeting, thats clown shit man lol bozo time

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link

i think theres an underlying hypothesis here that no one has actually beaten the draft by a significant margin, which is untestable because theres only one draft per year and thats not enough drafts

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:45 (one year ago) link

Bozo's grand prize game was more advanced than hoops

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 27 June 2022 13:46 (one year ago) link

Omg it would be amazing if a disgruntled Simmons is left alone on the Nets.


lol i keep thinking this

Tracer Hand, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

love jones thinking "i'll just turn phx into miami west!" this will definitely keep working for them

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 27 June 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link

it might, but only because they already have a good player they would not draft

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

at least miami has a strong player development program, jones sounds like he's not even interested in that

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 June 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

james jones sounds like a college sophomore explaining bitcoin, and also a republican

k3vin k., Monday, 27 June 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link

ok i gotta read this now lol

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

i do think there was something interesting in the theory of what he was saying about cutting down on the number of reports, having a smaller draft board, being more intentional about scouting etc … but (as you guys note) the underlying objective of only finding win now players is crazy & you can’t really run an NBA team that way. also ultimately it’s hard to shake the feeling that the entire objective is being driven more than anything by sarver being cheap. the tail is kinda wagging the dog here

also the jalen smith pick is the real fly in the ointment. he was a skinny raw center who they way overdrafted and it based on this they legitimately thought he was going to step in right away — whoops — to be their… back up center? from both an evaluation and process POV it was just monumentally dumb. meanwhile they passed on halliburton who was the same age and was immediately good in the NBA. maybe he wasn’t even on their board!

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

also the whole thing about not sending scouts out to games because it’s better for them to be around the team… does he know about league pass? you can watch the games from other states now, it’s really nice

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

ESPN Sources: Outside of the Lakers, there are currently no known teams planning pursuit of sign-and-trades for Nets G Kyrie Irving. No sign-and-trades can be formally discussed until after 6 PM on Thursday. Brooklyn isn't believed to have interest in available Lakers packages.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 27, 2022

Tee hee hee

If Irving declines his $36M player option, he would be eligible to sign with the Lakers for the $6M exception. Deadline is Wednesday to decide on option.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 27, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

kyrie forgot to factor in the whole just not playing basketball for three years because you didnt feel like it will make you less desirable to nba teams part into his plan to get two hundred million dollars

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

feel like there should be a graphic for the games last year where he just didnt bother to tell the nets he wasnt coming in

Kyrie In Brooklyn pic.twitter.com/nQRJCBBY9o

— Kirk Goldsberry (@kirkgoldsberry) June 24, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

was googling to figure out how many firsts the lakers have available to trade, 2026 & 2028 fwiw, and lakers fan/media fake trades are always so funny and delusional

https://i.imgur.com/dsWdCMA.png

heres a more realistic one tho they still just throw joe harris in there and have to defend giving up two first even when the famous THT is included

https://i.imgur.com/GR0ilNW.png

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link

lakers trading for kyrie would be unambiguously great for them imo. it could and probably will blow up in their faces but they’re currently hopeless and i can’t imagine a way in which they acquire a better player than him this offseason

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

it would be great for everyone the fans the haters the tv ratings, everyone except the nets who would just get two distant lakers firsts for their trouble and then be forced to trade kd too

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

looks like the dejaunte for collins talk continues

Heez, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

but on the other hand two lakers first is better than having kyrie walk to the knicks for nothing

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

The Spurs are fielding offers for Murray and have told multiple interested teams it would take a “Jrue Holiday-like package” for San Antonio to part with the 25-year-old floor general, setting a rough benchmark of three first-round picks for any suitor to pry Murray free.

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

cant imagine collins has too much value around the league right now, got a big new contract right around the time he missed a bunch of games

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

i do think the celtics should consider putting together a jrue holiday like package for him tho

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

for murray to be clear

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

there was talk that the celtics were interested in collins but apparently werent remotely close to offering what the hawks want

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

i really want to clear his spot for Okongwu

Heez, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

the hawks def can trade him but i think theyre looking at a first plus spare parts type deal

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

why are the spurs even fielding offers for murray?

Heez, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

Hawks receive: Dejounte Murray, Keldon Johnson

Spurs receive: De’Andre Hunter, John Collins, Delon Wright, two future first-round picks

Heez, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

why are the spurs even fielding offers for murray?

― Heez, Monday, June 27, 2022 1:19 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

hes not hang up the phone good and the spurs arent making any noise soon so theyre basically like yeah give us all your assets and we can talk

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

if a team wants to trade a jrue holiday like package for a player who is worse than jrue holiday that is one thing. i really have no idea why the spurs would want john collins tho. he’s a good player but what is he doing for the spurs in particular, i do not understand

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

worth noting too that the bucks gave up more than one typically would for a player of jrue holidays caliber

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

I'd be cool with the hawks trading anyone other than Trae, Okongwu or Hunter

Heez, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

however much like holiday did with the bucks murray could put the celtics over the top, basically a perfect fit and hes the same age as the celtics core ie young

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

if the spurs are looking to get rid of their best player that means theres prob something wrong

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

it would be great for everyone the fans the haters the tv ratings, everyone except the nets who would just get two distant lakers firsts for their trouble and then be forced to trade kd too

― lag∞n, Monday, June 27, 2022 12:07 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

if they hold onto Westbrook too it would be amazing, I'd watch all 75 nationally televised games they'd inevitably get

frogbs, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

if the spurs are looking to get rid of their best player that means theres prob something wrong

― Spottie, Monday, June 27, 2022 1:39 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk they might just be looking at their roster and thinking more rebuilding is better than getting stuck in the middle, but theyre prob not really looking to move him teams are calling and theyre like yeah give us crazy value and of course well think about it

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

westbrook and simmons are such a cosmically bad fit i feel like they must have already played together

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

tbh anytime you hear rumors abt the spurs, its coming from the other team. i think atl is trying to create a market for jc and keep rumors that theyre targeting a young all-star for him. i dont think the spurs are that interested in trading dejounte.

spurs have basically 3 paths:
1. trade dejounte for a godfather presti offer and get their under-23 players (and there are a lot of them, and theyre all 6'5") all the run they want while they keep building through the draft for the next few years
2. make a run at ayton with a max offer s&t with the suns and add a another FA or two and try to become a playoff team now
3. maintain status quo, play it conservative and commit to methodical grinding mediocrity

i think ayton has untapped lead scorer potential, and if he learns how to sleep like a normal adult, he could be a top 3 center, so im hoping for 2, will settle for 1, dreading 3

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 27 June 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

its pretty funny how sam presti has all the draft picks and can easily make a trade that would kneecap any other franchise

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

ok

“The Nets are putting out there right now that they are prepared to lose BOTH Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant.” @WindhorstESPN

— Cody Mallory (@RealCodyMallory) June 27, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

if for a penny, in for a--hold up did you say a pound? noooo thank you

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 27 June 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

this is good imo, the nets should give up

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

send kyrie to the lakers and kd to any half decent team

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

tell simmons youll trade him if he plays good for a half a season and call it a day

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

theme for the 2020's definitely feels like "the death drive", nets FO is on trend

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 27 June 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

the backdrop to this is apparently that joe tasi isn't happy with the team's performance on the business side

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 June 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

maybe they should try building a team from scratch to cultivate an actual fanbase

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

consider locating their team in a place that doesnt have a team

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

i think if they put together something better than the knicks organically then they will get people on board, and thats a pretty low bar

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

they could def do better than they do now but theres just always going to be that knicks problem there

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

In talking with multiple sources around the NBA, many believe Hawks on verge of trading for San Antonio's All-Star guard Dejounte Murray - However, it's looking like John Collins is not part of deal. Would be Gallo & multiple 1st round picks. Spurs prepping for future & '23 draft

— Zach Klein (@ZachKleinWSB) June 27, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

lol spurs love trading for washed euros on the end of the career that wouldve thrived on their team in their prime and then cutting them, can see it

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 27 June 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

they should at least try it once. they immediately tried to buy a team after moving there and then when that failed they were bad for a few years and then tried again

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

yeah i dont disagree on principle its just the right thing to do

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

but imo thy kinda fucked themselves by moving to ny calling themselves brooklyn and not changing the name the nets, their whole thing is contrived and lame while theyre competing against a team thats one of the most new yorky institutions, they tried to be cool and sleek play one million jayz songs and yell where brooklyn, but what new yorkers really want is shitty old timey stuff

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link

fuckin spec house looking gray court

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

their arena has seats that are actually comfortable though

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

this is the second most important thing after having a watchable team

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

def the worst part of the entire thing is all the gray why is everything gray

Clay, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

the color scheme is lame theres too many repeat color schemes in the NBA let the spurs have the monochrome and do something else

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

I called 3:45 PM today for Fizdale’s firing in typical Knicks Friday news dump fashion. Was just slightly off.

— Robin Lundberg (@robinlundberg) December 6, 2019

they should have been renamed the brooklyn dodges and made a whole marketing thing about being ram tough

mookieproof, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

nets should move to vegas

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

they already luv 2 gamble, makes sense

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 27 June 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

they should rename to the giants to increase the cross-sport confusion on that name

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

is the trae young + dejounte murray combo doing anything for us? i can’t get a handle on it

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

that doesnt make sense at all to me but whatever they want

ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

i think a trae, murray, hunter, okongwu and capela starting 5 could be good defensively

Heez, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link

plus great on offense

Heez, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

i think the idea of a strong defensive guard next to trae makes all the sense in the world but i wouldn't pay a premium for murray who will lose a lot of his value playing off trae

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

didn't he average like 8 rebounds a game? can't see that dropping off

Heez, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

i feel like it makes sense in theory, ok second ball handler, better defensive guard. this all makes sense. but then i’m like, are they really getting that much better? they still have zero wing players outside of hunter who may not be much himself

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

xp the 9 assists a game will tho

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

yeah true, but it also solves the back up PG role which has been dire

Heez, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

the hawks desperately needed someone besides trae who can make a play and now they have that and dejounte is big enough to play the 2 and is a good defender, whether trae can break a lot of his bad habits around being a guy who just always has the ball and does nothing else will prob determine whether it works as well as possible

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

*if it happens lol

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

immediately went to espn.com

Heez, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

haa sry

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

dejounte shooting 33% on threes would have me worried about playing him off trae but i guess you just hope he does a lot of secondary playmaking

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

trying to think of any other way the hawks improve their roster this year honestly unless durant wants to come

Heez, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

would trae be willing to play off ball?

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

he would need to learn how lol. i get frustrated watch steph move off the ball bc trae tends to just stand there

Heez, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

none of the steph disciples actually want to play like him

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

shoot from half court check, move off ball ehh, play defense bro what

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

running is hard on your knees, swag is forever, i get it

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 27 June 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

reading the james jones / suns piece and it really seems like they are just overthinking things, trying to be cute with it.

like... who cares about these weird semantic points?

In Phoenix, the word "potential" is strictly verboten. "We're not allowed to talk about 'potential,'" says Ryan Resch, the Suns' vice president of basketball strategy and evaluation. "We say 'capacity' instead of 'potential,' because capacity forces you to recognize what the player can actually do today and what he is capable of doing tomorrow."

congrats on wanting to sign free agents that help your team?

Jones and his staff insist they're interested in "players, not prospects." The Suns say they apply the same criteria used to determine the value of a prospective free agent to the draft. If the player can contribute immediately, and if his skill set can fill an explicit role in Williams' system for the upcoming season, he's worth considering. If neither of those measures can be met, he's not for Phoenix.

maybe just dont say this out loud???

He even confesses that, had he been at the helm in 2015, he probably would have passed on Booker.

"It all depends on what your goal is," Jones says. "Devin is great, but there are 50 skeletons tied to that swing for the star. It wasn't until winning was imported -- Chris, Jae Crowder, drafting a three-year guy who could help right away like Mikal -- that it translated to success. And if you don't import winning around him, there are even more skeletons. So if you want to find the guy with the highest potential to be the future star, then it makes sense to draft him -- if you're willing to navigate the land mines."

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

i may have read that second quote wrong

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

I read it that he is dissing Booker.

welcome to the suns: no one ever gets better

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 27 June 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

you am what you am

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

guess we know jones' answer to "do u go back in time to kill baby hitler"

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 27 June 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

it's crazy bcuz they nailed the cam johnson pick but getting the first one right w/ this wacky system might unintentionally set them back 5+ years

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

idk cam johnsons not really that good imho

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

if you look at who was taken after him it was a pretty great pick

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

he was coming on strong near the end of the season then got a hammy/quad injury and pretty much was worthless after that.

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

hes not a star obv but hes a fine rotation player

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

i wonder if ben simmons is thinking to himself 'maybe i shoulda played a little'

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

nah. simmo the savage doesn't blame himself for anything.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 27 June 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

hes not a star obv but hes a fine rotation player

― Spottie, Monday, June 27, 2022 4:39 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

he seems like he should be a solid 3 and d guy but watching him in the offs this year made me think he might be closer to just 3

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

he had a bad offs yes

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link

watching him try to guard luka was rough he couldnt do it even a little bit couldnt get low move his feet withstand the physicality any of it, obvs thats one of the toughest covers in the league but they really needed him to pitch in and he just couldnt

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link

there it is

Kyrie Irving: “Normal people keep the world going, but those who dare to be different lead us into tomorrow. I’ve made my decision to opt in. See you in the fall. A11even.” https://t.co/rpiS8YkSZI

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 27, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

lol what an asshole

mookieproof, Monday, 27 June 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

lmao

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link

what a piece of work

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link

pretty sure there were multiple opt-in and trade scenarios actually

Without the ability to find a sign-and-trade deal, Kyrie Irving plans to exercise his $36M player option for next season and return to the Nets, sources confirm. https://t.co/ShNgQETZpy

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 27, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

wonder if this experience will inspire kyrie to play basketball games next season

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 22:50 (one year ago) link

this was the most boring outcome. sad

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

just no deals out there rip

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

hard to imagine why any team would do a sign and trade for him

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 22:58 (one year ago) link

He is eligible to sign an extension up until June 30 with Brooklyn or enter the 2023 as an unrestricted free agent.

By opting-in, Irving is eligible to be traded to any of the 29 teams and the hard cap restriction does not apply. https://t.co/zTPl8jaezo

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) June 27, 2022

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

lol getting shams to lie about the existence of various scenarios and quote him with his dumb brand name thats journalism baby

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

the plot thickens xp. kyrie on a one year expiring rental...

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

seems like there prob wouldnt be a better deal for a rental than a sign and trade but who knows maybe at the deadline someone decides they must have kyrie

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

eleveneven

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Monday, 27 June 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

that kyrie statement is amazing

Clay, Monday, 27 June 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link

Those who are destined for greatness meet not the expectations of society. Many do not understand me but that is because i have reached beyond these planes and seek not that on which mortals dwell. I have decided to take $36 million dollars. Mean people suck. -==KyRiE iRvInG==-

Clay, Monday, 27 June 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link

hahaa

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

smh securing 36 million dollars, what a normie move

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 June 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

he is a true blessing to us, the lovers of messy drama

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

good time for kd to request a trade

micah, Monday, 27 June 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link

my fav thing from one of kds most recent tweet barrages was when he called "leadership" a buzz word.

It’s a lot of buzz words in basketball that confuse me, like leadership and Playmaking. Can I get a definition please?? https://t.co/sxk5y3gfq4

— Kevin Durant (@KDTrey5) June 13, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link

kd otm

lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link

kd not otm, playmaking is a p well understood combo of shot creation and passing to teammates in a position to score, leadership is the antithesis of kyrie, kd is doing lowkey fake deep bullshit bc hes mad online again

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link

leadership is a buzzword and not a real thing

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 01:04 (one year ago) link

leadership is the thesis of fake deep

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

leadership is when you go to a workshop

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

leadership is posting actually

Clay, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

i mean that goes without saying

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 01:25 (one year ago) link

john wall back

Five-time NBA All-Star John Wall will secure a buyout with the Houston Rockets and become an unrestricted free agent, league sources tell @YahooSports.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) June 28, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 01:25 (one year ago) link

I am imagining this entire Kyrie scenario as him realizing Brooklyn didn't want him anymore, so he's now opting in so they don't have a choice and will play every game next season just to prove a "point".

Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 01:38 (one year ago) link

kyrie is such a reflexive contrarian and reactionary that's very plausible

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 01:45 (one year ago) link

John Wall is planning to sign with the Los Angeles Clippers once he clears waivers, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 28, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 01:48 (one year ago) link

lol not even one day for the podcasters to speculate

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link

i honestly don’t think he can play anymore i can’t believe he has been talked about for so long

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link

john floor

ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link

at least the floor supports the teammates legs, more like john basement

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 02:00 (one year ago) link

those 40 games in houston weren't atrocious, i don't think he's changing anyone's destiny but he could help the clippers off the bench in some games that matter.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 02:00 (one year ago) link

Worth a flyer at least

Spottie, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link

Clippers depth chart:

Wall / Jackson
Powell / Kennard
PG / Covington
Kawhi / Morris
Zubac / Batum pic.twitter.com/XKgTbbCZPu

— StatMuse (@statmuse) June 28, 2022



eh?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 04:38 (one year ago) link

those are some players

ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 04:43 (one year ago) link

if you remove wall & zubac you get the outline of their playoff roster. we’ll see

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 04:51 (one year ago) link

lol

Report: Nets learned of Kyrie Irving opting in with his public statement https://t.co/4CzFct3F1w

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) June 28, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 13:05 (one year ago) link

the organization paying him sits no higher than nba twitter. the world is flat.

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

Obv

ESPN Sources: Los Angeles Lakers star Russell Westbrook is planning to exercise his $47.1 million option to return to the franchise for the 2022-2023 season.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 28, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/y3V4P1GwS1

— Russell Westbrook (@russwest44) June 28, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

He's being paid $47M to play basketball. Glad to hear that being asked to play defense won't break his soul.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

“an insider close to the situation says that the Spurs have multiple teams making a strong push for Murray besides the Hawks. One Eastern Conference team, he says, is offering three first round draft picks and a desirable young player in a proposed swap.”

someone woke pat up? 👀 https://t.co/9RgbtHoVsT pic.twitter.com/wWIQ8vN4rO

— dru_star (@dru_star) June 28, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

Report: Miami Heat have checked in on Dejounte Murray https://t.co/b5pMVGz7sy

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) June 28, 2022

“I did get indications that a few weeks back, Miami checked in on Dejounte Murray,” the Five on the Floor podcast reported.

The report was followed up by acknowledgment that Murray seems to be headed elsewhere already, though nothing has yet been set in stone.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link

he doesn’t feel like a heat trade target to me. they usually go for older stars

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

yeah, and hes not helping their spacing issues either

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

i wonder if there's an eastern conference team that just picked up a bunch of movable first round picks in an otherwise explicable trade!

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

knicks? they were pretty protected, right?

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

Boston Celtics assistant Will Hardy is closing in on deal to become the next head coach of the Utah Jazz, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 28, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

and good luck to him

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

congrats to that man

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

we're so close to a gen z coach

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

At this point, it's widely anticipated that Jalen Brunson will go to the Knicks on a four-year deal in excess of $100M. It remains to be seen how New York will clear the rest of the necessary cap space and whether the Mavs can work a sign-and-trade to recoup assets.

— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) June 28, 2022

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 21:12 (one year ago) link

P.J. Tucker is expected to join the #Sixers. Here’s how they can absorb his salary https://t.co/u25BG0GmBh via @phillyinquirer

— Keith Pompey (@PompeyOnSixers) June 28, 2022

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link

knicks? they were pretty protected, right?

― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, June 28, 2022 12:28 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

shhh

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link

can the mavs match or is he unrestricted? seems a bit high, but not outlandish.

Spottie, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

he’s unrestricted bcuz he was a second round pick

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 21:51 (one year ago) link

you know what, if the knicks think they can make some noise with their weird little jalen brunson julius randle team then i hope they succeed

ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

…couldn’t be me!

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

lmao, dallas losing brunson and gaining christian wood feels pretty lateral, dallas needs to Do Something imo

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 21:57 (one year ago) link

yea mavs losing one of their three shot creators is not good. and i dont really see a way for them to get another one..

Spottie, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

the hardaway and bertans contracts are looking ROUGH
https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/DAL.html

Spottie, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

losing bruson is bad why are they losing him wth

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link

go to the knicks and get booed doesnt sound that good

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link

what if he has a good relationship with his dad, the anti-riverses

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

then dallas shouldve hired his dad how did they let the knicks scoop them

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link

How good is Brunson? I can't get a handle on what the general feeling is. Is he poised to breakout if he's more of an focal point or is he just a guy who's young and undamaged or hindered by a terrible contract in a time when there aren't many available?

brunsons dad would fit right in the mavs org. hes their type

micah, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

UMS i think it’s the latter. he’s never going to make an all star team.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link

I would feel a lot better about that Tucker contract if it were two years. I've got a feeling we're going to find out he's cooked a month into the second year.

Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:06 (one year ago) link

yeah brunson will probably be a borderline all star guy. he's probably best suited as a 6th man, or as a 3rd option on a good team? hes real crafty and seems to be an elite pnr guard. but hes short and not great on defense. will be interesting to see what he does with a higher usage rate, no luka to play next to, and way less shooting around him.

Spottie, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

thx dudes I was wondering that...a lot of this off-season has "well we gotta do something" vibes

yeah its just the knicks

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

he'll also be 26 soon so hard to see him making another leap. per 36 the last two years he's been about 18/5/5 the scoring will prob increase a bit but the shooting percentages will drop

Spottie, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link

they are desperate for a real pg at this point

ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link

he was a good fit on the mavs, and there was still room for a bigger role, this was a poor decision

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link

tho i havent heard if the mavs were willing to give him nearly the same contract, understandable if they werent, but still now they cant replace him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link

yeah he was a great fit for the mavs

Spottie, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

offseasons like this really fuck some teams up bc they need to make a splash and then they're just saddled with overpriced contracts for mediocre aging guys

Clay, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link

the mavs did screw the brunson thing up by not signing him to a deal in the $50 million range when they had the chance, but at least they're willing to walk away and not give him a crippling contract.

i think they will mostly be fine. brunson is a good player but he was also playing in a system that is designed entirely around the lead ball handler. you couldn't do much more to put a player like him in a position to succeed (and probably overperform) than to slide him into the spot normally reserved for luka and/or playing off luka. he still has to be good enough to take advantage of it, and he's def a nifty player who can score. but i bet we'll find out both when he gets on the knicks and when the mavs find a replacement for him that he was, in effect, a system player. the mavs will have to get creative to replace him but at the end of the day we're talking about a second round pick who was a back up point guard, good franchises shouldn't get brought to their knees buy a guy like that walking away.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

and i guess a sign and trade is a possibility. if the mavs did something like brunson for derrick rose, alec burks and a protected first i don't think they'd be much worse

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link

Popovich nooooo

REAGAN, ROBERT EARL, 55, was booked on 06-28-2022.
CHARGES:
- (15A-543(C)) FTA-DWLR NOT IMP REV,OP VEH NO INS,CNCL/REV/SUS CE#WakeJailBooking #mugshots #RaleighNC #WakeCounty pic.twitter.com/tdVq9WIRTN

— 👮 Wake County Jail Bookings 🚓 (@WakeCountyMugs) June 28, 2022

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

he wanted to see some nasty

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link

Haha

Spottie, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

The Knicks are trading center Nerlens Noel and guard Alec Burks to the Pistons, sources tell ESPN. The Knicks will unload $19M more in salary, clearing the way for cap space to try and sign free agent guard Jalen Brunson.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 29, 2022



so mavs are just gonna let brunson bounce and/or knicks declined to sign and trade. hard to imagine the pistons are in on ayton now with the noel/duren/stewart combo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:46 (one year ago) link

These middling ass teams stay middling

Spottie, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:52 (one year ago) link

depressed that nothing interesting is going to happen this summer

Clay, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

yeah kyrie and kd shaking loose wouldve been crazy

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:55 (one year ago) link

think they couldve done better than this with that cap space

New York will send Detroit back its 2023 second-round pick, a 2024 second-round pick via Miami and $6 million, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 29, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:57 (one year ago) link

Detroit is eager to utilize center Nerlens Noel and guards Alec Burks next season. GM Troy Weaver had Noel on his team in Oklahoma City, and Burks is an ideal veteran to mentor the Pistons talented young group of guards.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 29, 2022

lol love the beat sweetening tweets

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link

maybe i will tweet @ kd and tell him to change teams just to keep things interesting

Clay, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 02:04 (one year ago) link

woj has really been over the top wrt to troy weaver especially lately

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

hi kd ever think about changing teams (if you dont your a bitch haha)

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 02:06 (one year ago) link

Tremendous coup for Detroit GM Troy Weaver to land two of his top targets in this draft: Jaden Ivey and Jalen Duren -- with the cost of only a future first-round pick.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 24, 2022

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 02:06 (one year ago) link

lol it was a very nice draft for them but tremendous coup might be a little strong

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 02:07 (one year ago) link

troy weaver violently overthrew the governance of the NBA by drafting jalen duren

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

where was troy weaver on jan 6 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 02:11 (one year ago) link

it's boring but i'm fine with the pistons being patient. they will have rookies and second-year players they're trying to develop so winning now isn't really in the cards.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link

Yah they just gotta build around cades timeline

Spottie, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 02:25 (one year ago) link

The prob for the mavs is that the other bad contracts they have on the books made it so Cuban can’t (won’t) spend more for a player that actually contributes. The brunson contract wouldn’t cripple them.

In return for Jalen Brunson, the Mavericks will receive lowered Luxury Tax payments and no more cap space.

— MavsCBA (@CBAMavs) June 29, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 04:19 (one year ago) link

Haynes is saying 4/110 now for Brunson

Spottie, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 04:22 (one year ago) link

that’s too much for jalen brunson

Clay, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 04:26 (one year ago) link

Happy about this, he played some good minutes for the pups last year

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 04:27 (one year ago) link

Didn’t think about this til I read this tweet but Brunson RJ and Randle are all lefties

To me Jalen Brunson would have had more reps, as well as much better coaching and spacing, if he stayed in Dallas. With Randle and Barrett as 2 high usage lefties wanting to attack from the right side of the floor, plus below average spacing, he'd max his potential more in DAL

— Nate Duncan (@NateDuncanNBA) June 29, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 04:32 (one year ago) link

xpost I forgot to include the mega wojbomb that the Wolves resigned Taurean Prince for 2/16

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 04:34 (one year ago) link

thats not bad, anytime you can get a rotation vet for less than MLE its good

also taurean went to hs where my brother used to be a teacher, tho i think my brother didnt start teaching there til a couple years after he graduated

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 04:40 (one year ago) link

The prob for the mavs is that the other bad contracts they have on the books made it so Cuban can’t (won’t) spend more for a player that actually contributes. The brunson contract wouldn’t cripple them.

the hardaway jr contract is prob regrettable. i just think that when your entire team is shooters and rim runners/stretch bigs you should be able to find another guard who can score and play back up point for you for less than $29 million a year. dinwiddie went from shooting 37/31 on the wizards to 50/40 on the mavs. their system is very friendly to ball handlers. i think they do need to replace brunson because having two scoring guards to go w/ luka was a big thing in their post-deadline surge but even if it's not until the next deadline i think they'll be able to figure something out. i just find it hard to believe that we're gonna be sitting here this time next year like, well the mavs let jalen brunson walk and it all went to shit

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 05:06 (one year ago) link

also like, nobody thinks this is a good contract right? is anyone wishing their team was the ones getting the $30 million jalen brunson contract? i feel like teams more often screw up by saying "well we can't lose him for nothing!" (tim hardaway jr) than just letting the guy walk and figuring it out from there

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 05:08 (one year ago) link

We already have the Dlo contract so I'm good

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 05:32 (one year ago) link

They have luka so they’ll be fine but what means do they have to get another ball handler?

also like, nobody thinks this is a good contract right? is anyone wishing their team was the ones getting the $30 million jalen brunson contract? i feel like teams more often screw up by saying "well we can't lose him for nothing!" (tim hardaway jr) than just letting the guy walk and figuring it out from there


It’s too much yah. I’m just skeptical they can figure it out from here

Spottie, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 06:35 (one year ago) link

dinwiddie will pick up some of the slack, it wouldn’t be a shock if he was in the top 5 of sixth man of the year voting. i think there will be guys floating around out there for them to look at. rubio, bledsoe, schroeder all come to mind. aaron holiday. none of those guys are as good as brunson or particularly exciting but how much of his production can you replace for a fraction of the salary? dinwiddie basically fell off the back of a truck for them and was really solid. the new front office has made two pretty shrewd trades already. ppl love to be in a constant state of panic about the mavs for whatever reason but the foundation of what they’re doing seems pretty solid to me

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 07:03 (one year ago) link

dragic would be a decent pick up for them. not sure how reliable any of those guys would be in second round playoff games and beyond but not sure brunson was necessarily a major solution there either especially at close to $30 million. as far as the regular season goes i think they can patch it together. wood and hardaway jr will help juice the offense as well… maybe they give a little back on defense. imo they’ll be right in that 3/4/5/6 mix again and once the playoffs come luka will be putting them on his back. i don’t think their outlook has substantially changed. maybe i’m wrong

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 07:17 (one year ago) link

dragic will probably play for the mavs (via slovenian tampering) but he is mega cooked.

brunsons abscence will be felt, hard to say exactly how much because his playoff success was quite matchup dependent, but i dont think you can replace his production by committee.

micah, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 10:57 (one year ago) link

Final statuses:

Diallo - picked up
Edwards - declined
Garza - declined
Jackson - declined https://t.co/2tCiJ1AGIu

— Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) June 29, 2022

farewell luka garza ncaa player of the year

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 12:09 (one year ago) link

lmao i remember arguing w someone on twitter last year abt how luka garza shd not be a 1RP and he was like "but he was so good in college!!" i know the internet is full of armchair gm's (ie us) but there really is a gap in knowledge of hoops in the fan world

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

he was good in college. at offense.

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 14:01 (one year ago) link

yes. the big homie was trying to compare him to jokic. i was like, sure if you take away jokic's passing, dribbling, shot creation, fluidity, ability to move their feet, and then make him one of the worst shot blockers of anyone over 6'8", theyre pretty similar

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link

lol yeah, he was a usage sink, no passing ability to speak of. and he was probably the worst defender in high-major ball

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

When I watched Garza play in the NCAA tourney and the announcers tried to inflate his reputation as a primo talent my reaction was what's so great about this 'big white stiff'.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

Washington is finalizing a trade to acquire Denver's Will Barton and Monte Morris for Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Ish Smith, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 29, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

even tho everyone is saying that denver is only doing this to cut salary still seems like a pretty good trade for both sides

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

congrats to ish

Denver is now home number 13 for Ish Smith 😱

This sets a new record for MOST TEAMS by one player in NBA history 🔥 pic.twitter.com/tP1OutaozP

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) June 29, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

Word starting to circle around NBA front offices of a potential increase in the 2022-23 salary cap. Multiple teams have indicated the cap could raise as high as 10%, from a projected $122 million.

— Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) June 29, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

thats based on league revenue from the past season right?

ciderpress, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

yeah

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

The Atlanta Hawks are trading Danilo Gallinari and multiple first-round picks to the San Antonio Spurs for All-Star guard Dejounte Murray, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 29, 2022

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

wowwww

Spottie, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

The Hawks are sending a 2023 first-round pick via Charlotte, and their own 2025 and 2027 first-round picks to the Spurs in the deal, sources tell ESPN. Spurs will also get a pick swap in 2026.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 29, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link

nice haul

Clay, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

spurs fans are upset

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

its possible he wanted out and never made it public?

Spottie, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

thats a lotta picks

ciderpress, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link

if trae is willing to play off ball this could be real nice imo

Spottie, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

Yo great move by the hawks. Now move Collins

Heez, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

That charlotte pick is pretty well protected

Heez, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

its possible he wanted out and never made it public?


I think this may be the case. Both repped by Klutch

Heez, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link

i'm pretty sure the spurs were like "oh you wanna trade us two unprotected first and another first from one of the sorriest franchises in the NBA for a borderline all star PG who can't shoot? ok."

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link

i think this serves atlanta's short-term interest to be in the playoffs, i just dont know HOW much better this makes atl. mia, mil, bos, tor, phi all have an edge, bk still might fuck around and bring the team back. i had similar feelings about chicago's offseason last year.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link

that is just a lot for murray. were they even bidding against anyone?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

i'm pretty sure the spurs were like "oh you wanna trade us two unprotected first and another first from one of the sorriest franchises in the NBA for a borderline all star PG who can't shoot? ok."


You’re such a hawk hater. In 25/27 the hawks will be a consistent top 4 seed. We’re looking at two picks that will be somewhere around 18-25. Plus the hawks are past that stage in the rebuild to give a shit about those picks

Heez, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

Y’all act like they’re giving up lottery picks

Heez, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

hawks could easily be in the lottery in 25/27, thats still a few years off

ciderpress, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link

yeah nobody knows what anything in the nba looks like in 2027 cmon, fortunes rise fortunes fall

Clay, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

Ok huge mistake by the hawks. Very convincing guys

Heez, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

You’re such a hawk hater. In 25/27 the hawks will be a consistent top 4 seed. We’re looking at two picks that will be somewhere around 18-25. Plus the hawks are past that stage in the rebuild to give a shit about those picks
― Heez, Wednesday, June 29, 2022 5:21 PM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is v optimistic given the presence of bos, mil, and the eternally competing miami heat, not to mention tor.

its a step forward to have another offensive initiator and an improved perimeter defender, but if theyve got capela/okongwu in the front court, their spacing has taken a hit.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

They had one of the best offenses in the league. This dramatically improves their defense and I’m having a hard time believing that subbing Huerter for Murray is gonna hurt hem offensively

Heez, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link

Right now they have:

Trae
Murray
Bogdanovich
Collins
Okongwu
Capela
Hunter
Huerter
And a couple picks they’ve been developing. That’s a young team that will not get worse over the next 5 seasons

Heez, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link

Anyway sure in these dark times I choose ~optimism~

Heez, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link

Wolves Twitter is v upset we didn't get him

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

I have no idea if it would have been good or not

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

he's better than dlo, but not so much that it was worth trade 3 1RPs

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

its a steep price def but hes good young versatile player, think i wouldve liked this move better from a contender trying to put themselves over the top than from a middle of the pack team like the hawks

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

i kind of am a hawks hater... but have i been wrong about them? that's a different question.

i think this trade is defensible from the hawks perspective insofar as murray is grossly underpaid for two years and if they can use collins and some other pieces on the team to reshape their roster they will almost certainly end up as a better team. my point was more that for the spurs getting two unprotected picks and a pick from the hornets kinda makes it a no brainer of a decision from their POV. the pelicans got unprotected picks from the lakers for anthony davis and have already gotten a top 10 pick out of it and may get another one in 2024 or 2025. you could've easily made the same argument of "well these picks will never be lottery picks, i mean the lakers have lebron and AD!" aside from the quality of the picks the hawks also handcuffing themselves from trading picks in any other deal so they better have nailed their valuation of murray and their feel for how he will play with trae

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

protected picks are good for sure and the hawks are always one trae young injury from being deep in the lottery

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

from the spurs pov not only do they get those picks but their own picks become more valuable by trading their best player lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:02 (one year ago) link

think i wouldve liked this move better from a contender trying to put themselves over the top than from a middle of the pack team like the hawks

― lag∞n, Wednesday, June 29, 2022 7:53 PM (three minutes ago)

this trade reminds me a lot of the bulls making that vucevic deal, which was in effect three first round picks. it's a team in the 7/8/9 morass in the east trading their most valuable picks for the fringe all star off a bad team in order to vault into the 4/5/6 range of the east aka giving up a lot to get marginally better. murray is younger and probably better than vucevic but the effect feels the same to me. the bulls have already lost a top 10 pick in that deal which became franz wagner which is terrible for them and they don't have next year's pick either.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link

i kind of am a hawks hater... but have i been wrong about them? that's a different question.


You’re dead to me :)

Anyway I think the spurs did well for themselves and if any organization can find gold with mid round picks it’s them. You have two organizations that are on different trajectories and this trade made sense for both of them

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:06 (one year ago) link

And what ever happened to homerism. It’s a bummer everyone likes to be all cool and analytical about the nba now

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

well were not hawks fans

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

protected picks are good for sure and the hawks are always one trae young injury from being deep in the lottery


So they probably shouldn’t trade for a good player bc Trae might get hurt

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

i think hawks fans should be irrationally excited about getting a good young player but i'm not a hawks fan xxp hehe

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

well were not hawks fans


I mean your Celtics fandom is pretty mild

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

from the spurs pov not only do they get those picks but their own picks become more valuable by trading their best player lol

― lag∞n, Wednesday, June 29, 2022 8:02 PM (three minutes ago)

hollinger implied on twitter (which i hadn't considered) that the side effect of doing this trade is the ability to tank for wembanyama. i wonder if after 6-7 years of trying to be a team that doesn't rebuild and fights to contend they looked at the results and also their history of success in the duncan era and were like, actually we need to be one of these franchises that tanks for a star and then goes from there

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

I mean your Celtics fandom is pretty mild

― Heez, Wednesday, June 29, 2022 8:09 PM (thirty-three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol hold deez leprechaun nuts hoe

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

actually we need to be one of these franchises that tanks for a star and then goes from there

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, June 29, 2022 8:10 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah and wembanyama looking extremely worth tanking for

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

Ha well played. Yeah spurs fans are all out for Victor. I think this is a war move by the spurs

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

War = wise

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

I’m gonna put the kids to bed, get baked and watch Murray highlights

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link

i think the spurs FO looked at the next two years and said "we're gonna need to extend keldon johnson next year and then dejounte will get a max deal the year after that" and said "thats probably not a very good team with those two guys taking up almost half the cap". spurs apparently REALLY like josh primo *shrugs* and they have a million guards so hitting the reset button with a chance at landing a franchise player in 2023 (not just wembanyama, could be scoot, thompson twins, nick smith) while developing the youngest team in the league was the best way to avoid the play-in purgatory

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link

yeah maybe draft an 80s synth pop band great idea

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

lmao amen and ausar are real ppl!

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link

dj wont be as high usage with trae on the team (and presumably also having some other weapons like jc) so i dont think he's gonna average 21 pts or 9 asts a game like he did this past year. he had the ball in his hands A LOT, especially once derrick got traded. but he should still be very productive. he and hunter and okongwu will have some great defensive potential.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link

i think the best argument for the hawks making this trade is that giannis aside the bucks are getting old, the heat are pretty old or at least have an old star, the sixers have an old star and a 300 pound big man with terrible injury history, the nets are old, the bulls are pretty old. meanwhile trae is 23 and murray is 25. if the pairing works they still might not get out of round 1 the next few seasons, but perhaps in the next era of the east they have ample room to ascend into the top 3 or 4 teams. their cap should be pretty clean, all their big money deals are movable.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link

And what ever happened to homerism. It’s a bummer everyone likes to be all cool and analytical about the nba now

― Heez, Wednesday, June 29, 2022 8:08 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it kind of is, but the fascinating/painful thing about the nba is how hard team building is. by making this move, the hawks have one more bullet in a collins trade. and that's probably their live or die team around trae young's prime.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

spurs fans on twitter are having a conniption like this was the kawhi trade all over again. he was the spurs best player but they won 34 games and they got smoked by NO in the play-in. dj had a miserable game shooting (6 of 20 iirc). him playing second option on atl is a better role for him.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

he and hunter and okongwu will have some great defensive potential.

― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, June 29, 2022 8:21 PM (four minutes ago)

there's something about the hawks and defense that almost transcends personnel to me, i wonder if it's a function of having your best player be someone who kinda doesn't care about defense and/or is flat out terrible at it. like their defensive personnel isn't great -- they're young and not very physically developed or imposing -- but there's some sort of root issue to the overall way they play basketball that i feel like is different from teams like boston, miami etc. they should certainly (hopefully) be better on defense but it feels like they need a whole attitude/cultural overhaul or something to me. will be curious to see how it plays out

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link

They fuck up this year Nate’s toast

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:33 (one year ago) link

but there's some sort of root issue to the overall way they play basketball that i feel like is different from teams like boston, miami etc. they should certainly (hopefully) be better on defense but it feels like they need a whole attitude/cultural overhaul or something to me. will be curious to see how it plays out

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, June 29, 2022 8:31 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

heez, cover your ears.

they're soft as hell

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

lol i just watch a very analytical youtube on this trade and theres all these hawks fans in the comments like this deal is nothing less than an a+ three first round picks isnt a lot

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

twolves felt like that for years and then turned it around this year

ciderpress, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link

hawks trade for patbev challenge

mookieproof, Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link

I guess as Boston sports fans you don’t have the situation of not being able to fill half a stadium most of your franchise’s history. I appreciate the irrational hawks fans. It’s nice to have folks onboard

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:04 (one year ago) link

On the other hand I’m a UGA grad and I couldn’t give a shot that they won a national championship

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link

hey man i got to see the rise of the new england patriots from regional joke to regional deity, i totally get it

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:20 (one year ago) link

the patriots were the absolute pits

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:21 (one year ago) link

Y’all are the reason I don’t watch football anymore. Though I can’t really blame you former that one. The braves in the 90s was my jam but the relentless postseason losses burned me out. So now the hawks are all I got 🥲

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:22 (one year ago) link

hawks arent really a bad franchise they just have never been great and atl has never been a good basketball town, which are not unrelated points

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

I moved to Atlanta in 88 when Dominique was there and since then there’s never been anything close to where they are now. Not saying they’re great but from an ownership and management standpoint it feels close to that

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

And Trae’s fun as fuck to watch warts and all

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link

yeah it's funny, i feel like there have been plenty of hawks teams that were memorable for one reason or another but they've never made that deep run that turns people into lifelong fans.

some of the recent playoff home crowds have looked fun on tv though. i think it could happen.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link

Yeah crowds are no where near as bad as they were when I was going to games

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:29 (one year ago) link

having an entertaining star player goes a long way but yeah they have to win to seal the deal

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:30 (one year ago) link

lol i just watch a very analytical youtube on this trade and theres all these hawks fans in the comments like this deal is nothing less than an a+ three first round picks isnt a lot

― lag∞n, Wednesday, June 29, 2022 8:37 PM (one minute ago)

if you look at recent trades this trade could be considered "market value" for a 1-time all star type player

anthony davis, james harden (when he went to the nets), paul george all commanded considerably more than 3 firsts and a swap.

jrue holiday went for three firsts and two swamps. vucevic went for two firsts and a recent top 10 pick (wendell carter) on his rookie deal so functionally three firsts. james harden (to the sixers) went for two firsts, an all star, two rotation players, and daryl morey's left nut.

aaron gordon went for RJ hampton in his rookie year and a first, so functionally two firsts

i'm sure both sides looked at all this and thought three firsts and a swap was basically the going rate for a player of murray's caliber. i just don't know how any of those deals were actually worth it

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

on a related note, was this a good trade?

The Miami Heat completed a four-team trade that allows them to sign All-Star guard Jimmy Butler to a four-year, $142 million contract, league sources told ESPN on Monday.

The Heat are sending center Hassan Whiteside to the Portland Trail Blazers, guard Josh Richardson to the Philadelphia 76ers and a protected 2023 first-round pick to the Los Angeles Clippers

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link

the one that was worth it was the one where the bucks decided jrue holiday was the missing piece and turned out to be right

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

yeah, and even that one was dicey

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

and i'm sure there's a post of me somewhere on here saying "man, that's a lot for jrue holiday."

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

yeah sorry i meant "i just don't know how many of those deals were actually worth it" not "how any" ... obv the jrue one was worth it. we'll see on the anthony davis one

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

i think bc of the cap, cba, and the max deals players can get its just so hard to get that mix of players to make a title contender, or even just get a bit better than before. getting that last guy comes at a high price.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:38 (one year ago) link

Also the hawks were in a bad spot so I see how some could see a bit of desperation. If the hawks field that same lineup next year it’s just gonna be the same mediocre outcome. Schlenk outright stated that he was going to make major moves so sitting pat was not an option

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/nba-offseason-trade-news-dejounte-murray-fit-atlanta-hawks-trae-young-bogdan-bogdanovic-deandre-hunter-san-antonio-spurs

heez idk if u read nekias duncan but hes v v good, and this is as good an analysis of dejounte's strengths and weaknesses as ive seen

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 02:15 (one year ago) link

Also the hawks were in a bad spot so I see how some could see a bit of desperation. If the hawks field that same lineup next year it’s just gonna be the same mediocre outcome. Schlenk outright stated that he was going to make major moves so sitting pat was not an option


i agreed with schenk’s assessment of the team & found his public frankness refreshing. it’s just a major bet

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 02:18 (one year ago) link

schlenk*

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 02:19 (one year ago) link

thanks bise that was good. i'm not sure why everyone's focused on trae playing off the ball and not dejounte. i would love to see them push him into a slasher that feeds off trae drives. trae's ability to beat most ppl off the dribble should not be curtailed.

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 02:27 (one year ago) link

and if that heat series showed us anything it's that teams realize they can easily beat the hawks by attacking trae and getting the ball out of his hands. that's a little tougher now

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 02:29 (one year ago) link

one axiom of nba player evaluation that seems more and more important to me is that you shouldn't assume players will change their behavior even as their circumstances change. so the idea of trae young playing off-ball is conceptual until i see that he is actually willing to do it.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 02:33 (one year ago) link

uh oh

NBA star Miles Bridges was arrested for felony domestic violence in Los Angeles on Wednesday, TMZ Sports has learned. https://t.co/QJ9TkviZU7

— TMZ Sports (@TMZ_Sports) June 30, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 04:17 (one year ago) link

man what the FUCK

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 04:24 (one year ago) link

lol literally 24 hours before getting paid

moullet, Thursday, 30 June 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

maybe atl could package capela plus one of the young kids to try rudy gobert?

moullet, Thursday, 30 June 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

as we've seen with utah rudy does not make a bad defensive team into a good one beyond the regular season

ciderpress, Thursday, 30 June 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

Multiple teams — including Atlanta, Minnesota, Brooklyn, Chicago and Philadelphia — are expected to compete for PJ Tucker in free agency. All are expected to offer the full mid-level/TPMLE exception. He is unlikely to return to Miami, per sources.

— Alex Schiffer (@Alex__Schiffer) June 30, 2022



i find this fascinating

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

it really is crazy. he looked pretty cooked there for a year or two but now is the most sought after old head. no one should be offering more than a two year with a team option in the 2nd year.

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

ultimate "got that dog in him" role player right now

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

he was really good for the heat in the regular season, he shot the three well but they also allowed him to expand his game, he had the second highest 2 pt % and second highest assists per game of his career. but i felt like his limitations were felt in the playoffs, his role in the celtics series really decreased over time. he played great defense on tatum in game 3 but he didn't even play 20 minutes in game 7, oladipo started to eat up his minutes as the heat looked for more offense & ball creation. maybe if lowry wasn't so bad tucker could've been on the floor more idk. also, anecdotally speaking it seemed like he narrowly missed suffering a severe leg injury on several occasions last year. like he would hobble off and you'd go "oh boy" but then he'd return and play through it. the way he plays at that age it just always feels like you're walking a tightrope

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

otoh kevin pelton wrote a piece yesterday about how tucker might be one of the most important FAs on the market. i don't have espn+ so i didn't read it

Wrote today about the growing importance of combo bigs who can play PF in the regular season and C in the playoffs as well as how hard they will be to add in free agency: https://t.co/BEIhQaDACv (ESPN+)

— Kevin Pelton (@kpelton) June 29, 2022

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

hes a good guy to have but only at the right price and length of contract

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

if he has that many teams after him someone is surely going to give him the 3/30 or whatever that he's looking for

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

yeah hes gonna get it for sure

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

Woj bomb: The Lad to the Vikings for cash considerations

Kirk Cousins better watch out. @theantedwards_ is coming for that QB1 spot. pic.twitter.com/Yp0ukFckJt

— CBS Sports (@CBSSports) June 30, 2022

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

Kevin Durant has requested a trade out of Brooklyn, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

let’s goooo

k3vin k., Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

well ok then!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

miami, philly, atlanta, phoenix, dallas, toronto, memphis...who else is putting their best offers out there?

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

whaaa

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

Woww

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

… warriors have the best package to offer

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

obvs kd is a good fit pretty much anywhere but i do think he would be great in miami, theyre already set up he could just come in and finish plays they wouldnt need to rely on him to do everything which was never exactly his thing anyway and is even less so at this sage of his career

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

trading him back to the warriors would be too funny

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

or mb kd ayton sign and trade

Kevin Durant has the Phoenix Suns listed as a preferred trade destination, league sources tell @YahooSports.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) June 30, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

right after kyrie picked up his option too hahaha

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

yeah everyone assumed he was gonna play out the season at least after that

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

i'm not doing the trade machine to verify but ayton, bridges, and the suns entire draft for kd makes sense.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

i think he'll get traded too for sure

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

he could also change his mind

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

"normal people dare to be different"

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

good note from bobby:

The Nets are not allowed to acquire a player like Bam Adebayo from the Heat because of the Designated Rookie Extension rule.

You cannot have 2 players acquired via a trade that were signed to that type of extension.

Brooklyn already has Ben Simmons. https://t.co/AWvLLVh1Op

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) June 30, 2022

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

kd to sacto

Phoenix and Miami are among two of the teams that Kevin Durant has on his wish list, sources tell ESPN, but the Nets plan to move Durant where they can get the best possible deal. With four years on his contract, there's no shortage of teams willing to unload assets for Durant.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link

or... OKC!

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

all those thunder fans will have to rebuild their kd jerseys from the ashes

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

lol

pic.twitter.com/h6dHgienID

— Freezing Cold Takes (@OldTakesExposed) June 30, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

Thank u, KD, for the drama

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

bet him a kyrie schemed this out cause now theyll have to trade both of them

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

this owns

Clay, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

kd now been the hub of 3 of the biggest FA decisions/moves ever

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

bet him a kyrie schemed this out cause now theyll have to trade both of them

― lag∞n, Thursday, June 30, 2022 2:13 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

do they? whats his value at this point?

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

on a one year rental looking for a contract his value could be pretty high.

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

man I fucking hate KD

k3vin k., Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

Kd for Lebron

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

Reunions all around

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

do they? whats his value at this point?

― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, June 30, 2022 3:18 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk hes hates them they hate him neither has any use for the other anymore

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

someone needs to stop this pod its gone too far

Kyrie foolishness, first round sweep, Harden trade fallout all clearly drove this, but…we can’t discount that all the legacy talk and chatter after the Warriors won the championship might have been the tipping point! pic.twitter.com/j2cpGcCfuP

— Trenton Hassles Carmelo (@TrentonHassles) June 30, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

will definitely look back on this nets superteam era as one of the great ones

Clay, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

remember when kd kyrie harden and ben simmons were all on the same team that was crazy

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

pour one out for Steve Nash tonight friends

Clay, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

rockets front office popping bottles rn

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

nash probably never been happier, just needs to find a way to offload simmo the goat now

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link

something that is crazy to me is that sean marks and the nets front office has so far escaped all criticism for how the kyrie/KD experiment has played out. like, how is this not just an absolutely fireable offense in every sense? they failed as spectacularly as you could ever fail in terms of putting together a super team. they went after volatile personalities, didn't win anything, couldn't do anything to keep the team together, and are now going to be back at square one. it's straight up one of the worst GM jobs i've ever seen? what's the counter argument?

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

well they are about to get a massive haul

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

the counter argument is that he wasn't actually running the team

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

also you could argue injuries and unforeseen circumstances (kyrie not playing cos reasons). getting kd was the actual move and they had to do whatever else to make that happen.

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

the counter argument is that he wasn't actually running the team

― call all destroyer, Thursday, June 30, 2022 12:39 PM (forty-six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol yah kd was the gm and kyrie the coach

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

i guess you get to credit them for landing them in the first place, but yeah, a lot rides on how they can salvage this kd trade

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

Per source, the Dallas #Mavericks are expected to heavily pursue a trade for #Nets star Kyrie Irving. Assuming they lose Jalen Brunson, that pursuit will be very aggressive.

— Evan Massey (@massey_evan) June 30, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

oh nooooo

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

im prob not gonna be working much the next 24 hours

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

man I fucking hate KD

― k3vin k., Thursday, June 30, 2022 12:19 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol the only proper reaction

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

there's been reporting that luka is not enamored with the idea of playing with kyrie lol

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

haha

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

i can corroborate those reports. source: common sense

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

cuban: u know kyrie
luka: yeah hes a big dickhead
cuban: yeah i want him to play basketball with you
luka: *through gritted teeth* fuck

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

poor kyrie simply act like an absolute pill for a decade and people stop wanting to be around you

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

the counter argument is that he wasn't actually running the team

― call all destroyer, Thursday, June 30, 2022 3:39 PM (two minutes ago)

also you could argue injuries and unforeseen circumstances (kyrie not playing cos reasons). getting kd was the actual move and they had to do whatever else to make that happen.

― Spottie, Thursday, June 30, 2022 3:40 PM (one minute ago)

right this is what ppl say. but the whole role of the GM when you put together a super team is to manage the egos enough to keep it together for 3 or 4 years. what you do in terms of player acquisition etc "running the team" actually doesn't matter all that much. you have to have an infrastructure/culture that can get everyone on the same page. clearly they failed spectacularly in that regard and i'm just like... you threw this franchise into the trash can. yeah every team would have taken on kyrie to get KD but other teams would've actually been able to make it work. i don't think it was a foregone conclusion that all of this was just going to go to shit.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

so many teams could make this work, was forgetting NOP and TOR could make really good offers

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

denver should offer mpj+murray for kd+roster fill

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link

xp right, they suck and basically started from scratch with a new coach/culture, that pretty much never works. gotta have some infrastructure. like maybe just buying into what atkinson had established could have been better than throwing a brand new ~vibes~ coach in there but mgmt was too weak to stand their ground vs kd and now they are here.

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link

This was three years ago today… pic.twitter.com/j7VINeEtZD

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) June 30, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

With 4 years left on KD's deal, and his likely destinations being very unlikely to have the best trade package, this will be our biggest test ever of player empowerment. How much can he control his destination given the duration of the contract?

— Nate Duncan (@NateDuncanNBA) June 30, 2022



Reminder for fake trade creators: Nets aren't doing a deal to tank. Houston owns their next five drafts. It's gotta be something for real basketball players.

— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) June 30, 2022



these are the two competing ideologies that make this so fascinating

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

he’s gonna end up on the clippers somehow, it’s the most joyless and surreal option probably

Clay, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

i don't get what team

a. can win a title in the next 2-3 years w/ durant
b. can win a title in the next 2-3 years w/ durant if they trade enough pieces to the nets so that the nets are still competitive
c. won't have their lives made a living hell by durant bcuz he got sent somewhere he doesn't want to play

to me it feels like it's going to end the way all this stuff ends w/ the player dictating where he wants to go and the team sending him out getting a bunch of picks

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

With Simmons needed to be sent out (to Heat or elsewhere) in any Bam/Nets deal, one HYPOTHETICAL permutation that would work within cap rules is Durant/Simmons for Bam, Herro, Lowry, Robinson and three first-rounders (including Jokic).

— Barry Jackson (@flasportsbuzz) June 30, 2022



like… is a team of butler, durant, simmons and a bunch of two way type guys really enough to win a title to the point that you’re willing to trade a young all star, your best young player, a good PG and four picks? none of this kinda stuff makes sense to me.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

If the suns can do it without giving up mikal

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

circling back to the marks thing, my feeling is that there was a decision at the ownership level to let kd and kyrie come to brooklyn and more or less run the show. i don't get the sense that marks was put in a position to wield influence over anything other than like slots 8-15 on the roster, where he's basically been doing fine. if joe tsai could fire himself that would be much more appropriate--he turned his business over to two absolute weirdos.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

Man, I need some popcorn.

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

what if the nets just decide not to trade him

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link

could happen!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

the nets are not what?

The Nets, however, are not buoyed to honoring any of Durant's preferred destinations and plan to make a deal that allows them the greatest return of assets, sources told ESPN.

mookieproof, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

lmfao

KD and Kyrie “want to continue to play together,” but not in Brooklyn, per @wojespn pic.twitter.com/Tr1LxLHBa9

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) June 30, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

oh my god

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

kd and kyrie want "to continue to sabotage teams together" just not the nets because "that one is used up"

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

come home to DC kev

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

there needs to be a televised intervention with durant

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

Locked in. @ShamsCharania | #NBAFreeAgency pic.twitter.com/cfVstD007v

— Stadium (@Stadium) June 30, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

ESPN's Stephen A. Smith says Heat "has assets that Brooklyn doesn't particularly want" and that Durant "wants to be in" Phoenix, despite owning a home in Miami.

— Barry Jackson (@flasportsbuzz) June 30, 2022

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

lol bison who is Jock Landell

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

there needs to be a televised intervention with durant

― J0rdan S., Thursday, June 30, 2022 1:53 PM (fifty-six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

haha yess.

this is too good. anyone got 80+ mill in quality salared players plus picks theyre trying to offload?

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

honestly a pretty good player who can "shoot the piss out of the ball", he was the australian NBL mvp and finals mvp a year agoxp

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

he's kind of a tweener defensively, but he'll be a decent option to play stretch 5 off the bench

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

whole league is in shambles
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWhw8LtXEAEWnQo?format=jpg&name=large

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

i love when players go online and find the uniform photoshops theyre just like us

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link

Maxey, Harden and Harris for KD and Kyrie, lol.

Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

Preferred outcome is still:

Omg it would be amazing if a disgruntled Simmons is left alone on the Nets.

― Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Monday, June 27, 2022 7:18 AM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

jock was good in the olympics, i’m surprised he didn’t get more run with the spurs

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

simmons needs to demand a trade too

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

xp Wonder if they'll keep him

Hawks should offer Collins and Huerter and that dude we just drafted

Heez, Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

Free agent Jalen Brunson intends to sign a four-year, near $110M deal with the New York Knicks in free agency, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. The Mavericks never received chance to make offer, sources said.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

this is pretty crazy really

Steph Curry and Klay Thompson played 45 games together this year, even with Klay missing half of the season.

Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving only played 44 games in three years as teammates. pic.twitter.com/jCWBwKdhf5

— SB Nation (@SBNation) June 30, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link

The decision by Durant, who missed six weeks to a strained MCL this season after missing all of the 2019-20 season, comes after days of speculation that he was upset with the manner in which franchise had treated Irving, deciding against giving a fully guaranteed, four year, $245.6 million deal.

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

knicks gonna pay 110 mil and lose a second round pick to sign jalen brunson. very cool very nice

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

it is terrible how badly the franchise treated the maxed out troll guy who did everything he could to not play games xp

Clay, Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

incredible stuff.

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

what the hell

BREAKING: Memphis Grizzlies F Jaren Jackson Jr., underwent surgery to repair a stress fracture in his right foot on Wednesday and is expected to be sidelined for 4-to-6 months, sources tell ESPN. Jackson is expected to make a full recovery. pic.twitter.com/RBFlyYiiUq

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link

oh no!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link

Beal 5/251 with Wiz
Booker 4/214 extension

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link

that beal contract is bananas

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link

talking myself into the blazers being a way outside shot to land kd and then me finding a therapist again

Clay, Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link

batum 2/21 clippers
pj tucker 3/32 76ers
anfernee 4/100 blazers

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link

joker 5/264

Clay, Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link

richest in nba history, u go big hon

Clay, Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

portis 4/49 bucks
brunson 4/104 knicks

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

tha anfernee simons deal is absolutely insane to me

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

monk kings 2/19

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

Free agent center DeAndre Jordan has agreed to a deal with the Denver Nuggets, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022



let’s gooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. it’s all turning up matt armstrong baby. historic day

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link

simons deal seems high yeah but they think he's a borderline all-star, i don't think it's worse than the brunson deal and there's not a 4 way logjam at combo guard the way there was w/ cj and norm around

Clay, Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link

pj tucker deal making me sad ngl, he’s too cool to be on the sixers

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

Free agent Victor Oladipo has agreed to a one-year, $11 million deal to return to the Miami Heat, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2022

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

BREAKING NEWS:

Sources very close to free agent @Joeingles7 can confirm that he has agreed to a one-year deal with the Milwaukee Bucks.

CEO of the house, Renae Ingles, is thrilled for Joe and their family.

Joe himself, is said to be very bucking happy.#nba #nbanews pic.twitter.com/4yra9gQst3

— Renae Ingles (@RenaeIngles) June 30, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

if hes healthy i love that signing for them

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

yeah that’s a nice one for them

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

Amir Coffey has agreed to a three-year, $11M deal with the Clippers, his agents Bill Duffy and Marlon Harrison of @BDA_Sports and WME Sports tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022



hm?

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link

I wonder how many Tucker corner 3s Harden has assisted on over the years.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link

dort 5/87.5 okc

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

good for him

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link

monk kings 2/19


surprised he couldn’t get more or the same deal from a better team

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

I think the simons deal was meant to forestall his getting an offer sheet from another team that functioned as a poison pill for the blazers to swallow, since the blazers have made it absolutely plain they wouldn't let Simons walk and would match any offer.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

Free agent guard Jalen Brunson, armed with a five-year, $106M-plus Mavericks offer, is headed into a meeting with the New York Knicks within the hour, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2022



lmao. woj running tampering interference for the knicks

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

pretty depressed about the deandre jordan thing

k3vin k., Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link

i know its a vet min contract but he is utterly washed

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

claxton 2/20 nets
lonnie walker 1/9 lakers
tate 3/22 rockets
dedmon 2/9 heat
nurk 4/80 blazers
trou brown 1/minimum lakers

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

deandre shoulda been out of the league 4 years ago lol

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

lonnie leaving was inevitable, but him signing with the lakers hurts a lil bit

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

*lonnie 1/6.5

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

lonnie leaving was inevitable, but him signing with the lakers hurts a lil bit

― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, June 30, 2022 4:26 PM (eleven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

its always weird when a spurs pick/prospect doesnt pan out

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link

he showed some signs of being a great 6th man when derrick white was traded. i think he averaged 17 ppg after the deadline? he's always had great athleticism, he's just a mess on team defense and doesnt have a strong enough handle to be a lead guard. but he'll make some plays that will leave you speechless and can get hot from 3. i hate to say this but i think it was a good signing for the lakers.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

the writing was on the wall for lonnie when the spurs drafted 3 guys who play his position in two summers, tho

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link

yeah thats the kinda guy the lakers need to take a swing on

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link

tyus jones 2/30 grizz
house 2/8.5 76ers
damian jones 2/cheap lakers
boucher 3/35 raptors
patty 2/14.5 nets

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

JTA to the lakers

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:48 (one year ago) link

javale 3/30 mavs

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link

3/20*

Spottie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:54 (one year ago) link

4/49 for portis is the craziest one so far

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

really? seems about right to me

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

was gonna say, his value in the playoffs is hard to overstate and hes only 27

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

15/9 on 48/39/75 in 28 minutes and was a big part of the championship run

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

Lonnie Walker was one of the NBA's worst defensive SGs last season, all in a Low Activity defensive role guarding nobody.@The_BBall_Index metric grades among 1K+ minute SGs this past year:

On-Ball D: F
Ball Screen Navigation: F
Off-Ball Chaser D: C+
Help Defensive Activity: D- pic.twitter.com/DBAGwnjLTX

— Cranjis McBasketball (@Tim_NBA) July 1, 2022

laker fans despondent in the comments lol

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

xp it is? he averaged 10/10 in the last playoffs and doesn’t have a defensive position.

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

he was pretty booty this last playoffs yah. 12 per year for a rotation guy is fine tho.

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link

He gotta be hilarious in locker room and he cut hair and mix a good drink https://t.co/QnsXjiKdtH

— Trill Withers (@TylerIAm) July 1, 2022

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

portis is a big man who can shoot and plays with energy is how i break it down more or less, also a fan fave over there

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

haha i came to post that deandre stat. unreal

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

the only big who might be worse now is haslem, but we'll never know since haslem hasnt played since 2015

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link

JaVale McGee told ESPN that he expects to be Dallas’ starting center. He will reunite with head coach Jason Kidd and assistant coach Jared Dudley, who were part of a Lakers’ title run with McGee.

— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) June 30, 2022



this is wacky as hell. why do the mavs have 4 centers now

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link

they are not a competent franchise. drafting dirk and luka has covered up a LOT of failure.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

the portis contract doesn’t strike me as insane in a vacuum but for a team that needs to hit on lots of moves on the margins it feels like an overpay to me. he was *fine* in that celtics series but ultimately seemed quite limited for what that series was

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

claxton getting 2/20 and javale getting 3/30 is bizarre

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

the cap mini-spiked this year, teams are flexing a little bit today

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

javale was 3/20 i did a typo

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

they are not a competent franchise. drafting dirk and luka has covered up a LOT of failure.


we’ve debated this ad nauseum but finney smith & brunson were two of the great player development stories of the last 5 years and were a huge factor in them making the west finals. and oh yeah they happened to swing one of the single greatest trades in NBA history, that’s gotta count for something. they do some wacky things but incompetence runs deep in the NBA & the mavs are not that

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

thank you for your honesty spottie

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

we’ve debated this ad nauseum but finney smith & brunson were two of the great player development stories of the last 5 years and were a huge factor in them making the west finals.

― J0rdan S., Thursday, June 30, 2022 5:28 PM (seven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah but then they were too cheap to keep the guy they developed lol

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

those guys were also finds of the previous regime. i think the jury is really, really out on the current one.

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

xp thats valid! im just not wild about how theyve squandered the window dirk gave them by gifting them productive below market years and now these questionable builds around luka. they dont feel like a serious team to me even tho luka is a generational talent.

xps to j0rd

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link

smith & brunson were two of the great player development stories of the last 5 years and were a huge factor in them making the west finals. and oh yeah they happened to swing one of the single greatest trades in NBA history

― J0rdan S., Thursday, June 30, 2022 8:28 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

think this might be overstating things a bit but they def did make the wcf, i dont think the mavs are one of the really bad franchises but they often seem pretty shaky, theres all the non basketball snafus too

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

shaky is the best way to describe it. they've had plenty of good players but it never seems to come together in the right way

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

Free agent Kyle Anderson has agreed to a deal with the Minnesota Timberwolves, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2022

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link

Bagley 3/37 Detroit

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 02:33 (one year ago) link

absolutely ghastly lol

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 03:15 (one year ago) link

Damn, dubs are gonna feel his loss. Glad he's getting paid.

Free agent Gary Payton II is finalizing a three-year, $28 million deal with the Portland Trail Blazers, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 1, 2022

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 1 July 2022 05:41 (one year ago) link

What's the verdict on Kyle Anderson 2/18?

Oh no! Man I wanted them to keep gp2

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 05:50 (one year ago) link

What's the verdict on Kyle Anderson 2/18?


I love slomo. Just one of those dudes that seems to contribute to winning. He’s a really crafty defender.

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 05:52 (one year ago) link

kyle is elite at nothing and good at nearly everything, he will be v good for minny

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 06:03 (one year ago) link

blazers going all in on wing d, what is this world

Clay, Friday, 1 July 2022 06:04 (one year ago) link

they should try and find another guy who can play that small ball guard center role

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 06:06 (one year ago) link

Bagley 3/37 Detroit

― Spottie,

seriously, what?

Heez, Friday, 1 July 2022 10:16 (one year ago) link

I want KD to play Eddie Kendricks in a biopic

https://images.app.goo.gl/1161HWZrtTKH4xub9

Heez, Friday, 1 July 2022 10:42 (one year ago) link

New Orleans Pelicans star Zion Williamson is nearing a five-year rookie max contract extension worth up to $231 million, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. The commitment will take Williamson’s new deal through the 2027-28 season.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 1, 2022

this will end well!

k3vin k., Friday, 1 July 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link

check this out: $

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link

the portis contract doesn’t strike me as insane in a vacuum but for a team that needs to hit on lots of moves on the margins it feels like an overpay to me. he was *fine* in that celtics series but ultimately seemed quite limited for what that series was

― J0rdan S., Thursday, June 30, 2022 7:23 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yea he was pretty bad in this year's playoffs but last year when they won it all he was often the one guy other than Giannis consistently making big plays. also was a really good rotation guy all year. plus the fans love him

frogbs, Friday, 1 July 2022 13:47 (one year ago) link

Nice, glad they got this done, was kind of a no brainer for everyone

Minnesota Timberwolves star Karl-Anthony Towns has agreed on a four-year, $224M super max extension, his agent Jessica Holtz of @CAA_Basketball tells ESPN. Deal begins with the 2024-25 season and delivers Towns’ total contract value to six years and $295M.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2022

bruce brown to the nuggets, love it

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

That’s a good one.

Mitch rob 4/60 knicks

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

idk how to feel about this one. i mean he's a good player but he's always hurt, and as long as randle is there, the spacing is non-existent. it might've been better and cheaper to just hold onto noel or perhaps keep the first rounder that produced jalen duren.

ok pretty stoked about bruce brown

k3vin k., Friday, 1 July 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

Otto Porter Jr. had a veteran minimum offer on the table from the Warriors but is signing in Toronto for a better deal, per @ChrisBHaynes. Warriors have now lost the #7 and #8 players in their championship rotation in the first 24 hours of free agency.

— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) July 1, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

dray calling kd right now

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

would it, chris? WOULD IT??

“It would be a bad look if they sent him off somewhere where he just didn’t approve.”

- @ChrisBHaynes on the Brooklyn Nets and Kevin Durant pic.twitter.com/oR6zyzJElZ

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) July 1, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

"a bad look"

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 1 July 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

gallo 2/13 celtics

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

lavine 5/215 bulls

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

cant blame him after dealing with these guys for a couple seasons

“Joe Tsai would rather have a team that plays hard that he's proud to own that wins 40 games and fights for the play-in than have a team that has way more talent that he's not proud to be a part of.” 😳

- ESPN’s Brian Windhorst on the Nets’ owner

(h/t @Krisplashed ) pic.twitter.com/WMnwfHPq8L

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) July 1, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

people who still think windhorst is like lebron’s puppet or whatever should really become familiar with the work of chris haynes.

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

damn the gallo market must have been nonexistent

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

aging defensive liabilities fall off the cliff fast

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

tax mle seems right for him at this point

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

Atlanta is trading Kevin Huerter to Sacramento for Justin Holiday, Mo Harkless and a future first round pick, sources tell EPSN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2022

sacramento ramping up for that 9 seed push

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

damn atlanta just dumping him huh. that’s a weird one

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

i kind of liked heurter for the celtics TPE, oh well

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

there should be an auto trade kicker any time a player gets sent to sacramento. like you get a 25% bonus on your salary paid by the league office

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

huerter is 23 and has improved his shooting every year

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

Not sad to lose Huerter honestly. He’s good but not worth what they paid him. Just really inconsistent

Heez, Friday, 1 July 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

huerter's extension kicks in this year and ATL wants to save some money. theyre in the tax now i think? plus they get a lottery-protecc SAC first rounder. they may not be done with dealz.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

Also I assume the hawks know they are on the clock for two seasons if they decide to do free Murray a long term deal

Heez, Friday, 1 July 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

Huerter not consistent but that usually improves with age. Seems weird to bail now idk

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

they must have decided that a protected kings first has more value around the league than huerter, which may be correct. you’d have to figure they shopped him around and didn’t find anything they liked, or at least nothing they liked that was worth keeping themselves in the tax. but i remember when huerter signed that deal ppl were like, great contract immediate trade value. maybe he just wasn’t that valued around the league. i guess it depends on what the protection is on the pick

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

I kind of expected OPJ would get a bigger payday elsewhere, but GP2 signing elsewhere does sting, though I'm glad for him personally. It does make re-signing Wiggins marginally easier/higher priority now, though.

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Friday, 1 July 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

huerter is a good player but he’s def emblematic of what we were talking about the other day with the hawks. i wouldn’t call him soft in the macho sense like he shrinks in the spotlight or gets intimidated or whatever but he is soft in the physical sense, like he’s a skinny dude who isn’t physically imposing, you never feel him during the game. he’s skilled but guys like miami or boston have are never going to be worried about going up against him. the hawks need less of those guys

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

The Indiana Pacers are trading guard Malcolm Brogdon to the Boston Celtics, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2022



this is a good one

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

whoa

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

The Celtics are sending Daniel Theis, Aaron Nesmith and a 2023 first-round pick, sources tell ESPN. https://t.co/etqmr9l0l7

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2022



damn got him for nothing. wow

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

the health is scary but they don’t need him to play a ton in the regular season.

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

Excellent move. Seems like he's just what they need.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 1 July 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

Celtics are also including Nik Stauskas, Malik Fitts and Juwan Morgan in the trade, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2022

nothing of note, but they might need another player back from the pacers for roster reasons

Otm regarding Huerter. Plus they just drafted a sharp shooter that plays subpar defense

Heez, Friday, 1 July 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

wow huge pickup for the celtics if brogdon can find some health

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

tho smart white and brogdon are all kind of same guyish

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

to be fair its a good guy to have duplicates of

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

yeah i thought maybe white was gonna be the piece being sent out

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

its not like you cant play two of them together, tho smart and white are kind of rough together because of the lack of shooting but brogdon with either of them should be a little better

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

does seem like white could get pushed to the end of the rotation tho

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

also makes him expendable at the deadline if they need or want something else

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

true

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

good get for the celtics

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

smart brogdon the jays rob could be a pretty sweet crunch time rotation, brogdon should add a little of that playmaking they need

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

brogdon was great in the bubble playoffs first round vs the heat… put up 21/10 in that series

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

yeah hes a good player he does a lot of good basketball things

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

hes one of those extremely solid guys

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

oh wow brogdon is way more of a guy than i was expecting them to get for that role

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

sounding like bjelica is gonna be heading to play in europe

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

Has anyone in the west improved? Things seem to be skewing toward the east

Heez, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

clippers and nuggets should be back in the mix. portland too.

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

and this is not done obv. the durant/kyrie thing could swing things

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

jazz deals too

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

teams looking to make big moves are prob waiting those out before doing anything else

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

looney 3/25.5 warriors lets goooooo

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

reasonable

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

thats great value, like every other contract he's signed

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

warriors will win the nba playoffs

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

all 6 of them!

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

not the ciderpress curse!

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

Utah is trading Rudy Gobert to Minnesota, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2022

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

when everyone's zigging you zag baby

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

The Timberwolves are sending Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverley, Walker Kessler, Jarred Vanderbilt and multiple first-round picks for Gobert, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2022

Woah

that is a lot

Man....Vando 😥

it’s really hard for me to envision towns and gobert playing together

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link

two guys who cant guard the perimeter in the playoffs...at the same time...any math teacher knows when you multiply two negatives u get a positive 😎😎😎😎😎

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

i kind of hate it for the wolves

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

otoh, i could see the offense work with gobert as a lob threat and KAT lurking on the perimeter, but i wonder what effect it has on dlo and an't dribble penetration

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

The Jazz are landing four Minnesota first-round picks and 2022 first-round pick Walker Kessler in the deal for Rudy Gobert, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2022

hollyyyyyy shit danny ainge has not lost his touch

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

wow what the shit

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

Ok Jesus fuck

dannnnnnny

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

The picks going to Utah, per sources: unprotected 1sts in 23, 25, 27, a swap in ‘26 and a top 5 protected in ‘29

— Jon Krawczynski (@JonKrawczynski) July 1, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

KD package is about to be apocalyptic

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

im sorry m@tt

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

oh my god lmao

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

that's like an AD package

symsymsym, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

hang that screen assists banner up NOW its over

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

they’ll prob be better in the regular season when they can funnel everything to rudy on D and their size will prob bother teams during the dregs of the season. i just don’t think gobert helps you in the playoffs, may in fact be actively harmful, and i don’t think there’s any evidence that you can play two guys that big at the same time as part of your core 5 in the playoffs

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

yikes for the wolves

k3vin k., Friday, 1 July 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

who were they outbidding?

symsymsym, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

pat bev getting shipped off to nba siberia is funny. he should do first take during the season

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

as a fan of a rival western conference team you love to see it however

k3vin k., Friday, 1 July 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

who were they outbidding?

― symsymsym, Friday, July 1, 2022 2:53 PM (one second ago) bookmarkflaglink

1997

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

as a fan of a rival western conference team you love to see it however


tim connelly singlehandedly nuking two teams that would be competing with the nuggets for playoff seeding. double agent vibes

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

lmao bison bringing the heat

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

this trade makes the dejounte murray one seem downright reasonable

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

this is wild I'm in shock

what the fuck

Clay, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

wolves taste a lil success and decide to put all their eggs in for the battled and tested playoff performer... rudy gobert
https://i.imgur.com/dfkjWAj.png

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

tim connelly singlehandedly nuking two teams that would be competing with the nuggets for playoff seeding. double agent vibes
― J0rdan S., Friday, July 1, 2022 3:55 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

was going to say exactly this!!

k3vin k., Friday, 1 July 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

seems like danny walked into town, looked around, and told everyone this team is nowhere as good as you guys want to think it is.

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

are there any shows doing live free agency talk right now?

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

my condolences m@tt this is fucked

Clay, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

the question is are the jazz breaking it all the way down and selling off mitchell too or are they gonna build around him now

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

not rudy pulling in 47 million in 4 years :(((

k3vin k., Friday, 1 July 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

donovan’s two best friends on the jazz have already been bounced.

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

he knew

Brian Windhorst just ran the First Take desk in circles. They were hanging on his every word for 2+ minutes 😂😂. Absolute masterclass. pic.twitter.com/Q1vn6mD9iz

— Commissioner Cheah (@StevenCheah) July 1, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

k.o.c. likes the trade for the wolves. a sure sign of disaster

donovan’s two best friends on the jazz have already been bounced.

― call all destroyer, Friday, July 1, 2022 3:58 PM (thirty-six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah windys right that trading royce signaled that this is a complete tear down mitchell is next

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link

😅 pic.twitter.com/hLfMM9mCxQ

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) July 1, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

k.o.c. likes the trade for the wolves. a sure sign of disaster


yeah they’re totally fucked

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

just seems like any time you’re sending Danny that kinda package you have to know you’re getting fleeced, have you heard of what the guy does

Clay, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

seems like they coulda done this for like 1-2 picks lolll

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link

google how the current boston celtics got their players

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link

The Jazz gathered six first-round picks in the past 24 hours, including 7-footer Walker Kessler, the 22nd overall pick in the 2022 Draft. The Jazz plan to retool the roster around All-Star G Donovan Mitchell.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2022



they plan to do what now

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

not sure how thats supposed to work

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

hey donovan it’s cool man we gathered six first round picks in the last 24 hours just sit tight for five years

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

they three players under contract for the 23-24 season

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

Pietà, potentially Michelangelo, 1545 pic.twitter.com/Dh5PkeAhxe

— ArtButMakeItSports (@ArtButSports) July 1, 2022

k3vin k., Friday, 1 July 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link

The Timberwolves did give up significant draft assets, but were elated to hold onto their talented young 21-year old forward, Jaden McDaniels.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2022



ah. well

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

tell them were elated adrian use that exact word

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

twolves could be good but i doubt they'll get past the wcf with that team

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

A lot hinging on ant being an an all nba player very quickly

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

twolves could be good but i doubt they'll get past the wcf with that team


well starting by winning a first round series would be nice

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

Xpost, the woj thing is total pr, but right or wrong, the Wolves have a very strong belief that McDaniels is a star in the making

League sources: For now, there are no plans by the Utah Jazz to trade star guard Donovan Mitchell. The Jazz are committed to building around him. The Jazz are not done in trade talks. Expect more activity

— Tony Jones (@Tjonesonthenba) July 1, 2022

so not a total teardown then

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

idk doesnt make sense

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link

could flip all those picks for a player no?

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

i'm sure they dont actually plan for him to be their #1 guy on a contending team but they can't say that while he's listening

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

could flip all those picks for a player no?

― Spottie, Friday, July 1, 2022 4:41 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

i guess but their roster as a whole seems like its playing itself out

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

jazz interested in ayton apparently

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

it’s either delusional wishful thinking or more likely posturing intended to increase/maintain mitchell’s trade value

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

yeah has everyone forgotten how danny ainge messaging works already

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

was my thought too seems kind of pointless but who knows

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

I know

k3vin k., Friday, 1 July 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

i do think that danny will simply not trade him until he gets the deal he wants theres no fire sale

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

it will be interesting to see how all this plays out, i don’t think ainge has ever been in the position before of having a star trying to force his way out as the clock runs down on his contract. he was on the other side of the table during the star hunting saga in boston

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

God, the NBA offseason is just the best.

kind of interesting to note that the durant trade request has not frozen league business as was predicted.

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

most teams prob decided they didnt have or didnt want to part with the assets to get him

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

just matching his salary is hard

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

well i think it’s notable that the suns haven’t made a single move yet aside from extending booker and the only moves the heat have made are resigning oladipo with his bird rights and giving deadmon a tiny contract

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

i agree, that is notable

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 July 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

tho smart white and brogdon are all kind of same guyish

― lag∞n, Saturday, 2 July 2022 4:00 AM

not really. hes much better at offense than either of those guys and sees himself as a lead scoring guard. and he once took the pacers to the 4th seed as their best player... thats not something smart would ever do. if hes healthy for the playoffs its a total steal

micah, Friday, 1 July 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/P6ZCGO9iXi

— A11Even (@KyrieIrving) July 1, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link

the fit is weird though. brogdog loves to hold the ball and he thinks hes a much better creator than he actually is when he should really stick to scoring. and he's not going to help at all with stopping those faster more mobile guards. will be interesting to see how it plays out

micah, Friday, 1 July 2022 22:16 (one year ago) link

tho smart white and brogdon are all kind of same guyish

― lag∞n, Saturday, 2 July 2022 4:00 AM

not really. hes much better at offense than either of those guys and sees himself as a lead scoring guard. and he once took the pacers to the 4th seed as their best player... thats not something smart would ever do. if hes healthy for the playoffs its a total steal

― micah, Friday, July 1, 2022 5:55 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

kind of same guyish

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

c-c-c-combo guards

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link

combo guys

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link

to the other point yeah i suspect if the celtics had brogdon they would have won the nba championship, which is not to say they will win it with him, cause who knows how good the teams will be

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link

Free agent Donte DiVincenzo has agreed to a two-year, $9.3 million deal with the Golden State Warriors, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Player option in Year 2.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 1, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

i’ve never seen evidence that divencenzo is actually good but that’s interesting

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 July 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

its not nothing. seems like a good get to me

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link

MIP award for white donte confirmed

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

Woj says the Raptors are lurking in the KD talks pic.twitter.com/qgW7DdePO9

— Vivek Jacob (@vivekmjacob) July 1, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

Durant trade is gonna end up being like a 4 team deal by necessity and some savvy gm is gonna snipe off something magical by sneaking into it

Clay, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

tbh between og, siakam, GTJ, and barnes, theyve got some really nice players that could keep brooklyn respectable

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

"...and that 2041 2nd round pick became, you guessed it, Jesus Christ."

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link

i’ve never seen evidence that divencenzo is actually good but that’s interesting

― J0rdan S., Friday, July 1, 2022 7:23 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

its weird he went from starting for the eventual champs to being cut by the kings in like a year

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link

he was hurt

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link

they gonna send kyrie to toronto? lol

the bucks supposedly loved him but cant even wait out an injury instead they trade him for grandpa ibaka, and then the kings wont even give him a look, its weird all im saying i mean maybe he just sucks idk xp

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link

maybe. this is what the warriors do on the fringes now tho. swing on higher upside guys for cheap who are coming off injuries like otto

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link

yeah i mean it seems like a worthy risk i just dont understand why the kings and bucks werent willing to do

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:40 (one year ago) link

DiVincenzo's potential contribution could be much higher than his recent performance. He is about year removed from surgery to repair a torn ligament in his left ankle. Much like an ACL, it can 12 months to regain strength / confidence in the ankle.

— Dr. Nirav Pandya, M.D. (@DrNiravPandya) July 1, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:40 (one year ago) link

he was def on a good trajectory before the injury

lag∞n, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:41 (one year ago) link

pelton likes it

Donte DiVincenzo hasn't signed anywhere yet and I'm already confident he'll be my favorite buy-low pickup of free agency.

— Kevin Pelton (@kpelton) July 1, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:44 (one year ago) link

woj is now reporting that the nuggets are signing and trading deandre jordan to matt armstrong for four unprotected firsts, four pick swaps, and alex len. the trade market is spinning completely out of control

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link

this is what rampant inflation does to a society

Clay, Saturday, 2 July 2022 01:21 (one year ago) link

damian lee to the suns. gonna be a very different squad next year

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 2 July 2022 03:28 (one year ago) link

The Timberwolves have agreed to terms with Bryn Forbes, sources told @TheAthletic.

— Jon Krawczynski (@JonKrawczynski) July 2, 2022

Tbh I don't know him at all, though I do like that he is from the Forbes family, might be able to tap into his money if we want to go into the luxury tax down the road

the nets apparently didn’t even offer bruce brown a contract, what in the hell is happening over there?

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Saturday, 2 July 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

xp bryn does one thing extremely well and that is shoot 3s, his form is so pure. he can hit runners/floaters if chased off the line. that's about it! he's a turnstile on D and has no playmaking skills to speak of, but if he plays 10 minutes a game and hits a couple of 3's per game, he's valuable in that role.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 2 July 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

i should say that bryn puts in effort on D, its just hes within the normal range of size for a human man in a league full of human men in the exceptional size range

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 2 July 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

cool that makes sense given they got off Beasley and the rest of our roster is going to have to filled out w guys at this level

Forbes is a fine 10th guy

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 2 July 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

If he’s hot you’ll be like “wow maybe he could start” if he’s cold you’ll be like “he should be in China” but it balances out to an okay rotation guy

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 2 July 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

New Orleans Pelicans star Zion Williamson has agreed on a five-year, $193 million designated maximum rookie extension that could earn him as much as $231 million, CAA Sports’ Co-Head of Basketball Austin Brown tells ESPN. pic.twitter.com/z4lnVLD1GM

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 2, 2022

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 2 July 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link

i don't begrudge the players in the least, but my god there is a lot money being thrown around

mookieproof, Saturday, 2 July 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

I have come to accept that the economics of the NBA are insane.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 2 July 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link

all that parity, everyone thinks they have a window with the warriors getting close to aging out

ciderpress, Saturday, 2 July 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link

Heat announces that Nikola Jovic signed his rookie contract. He's now ineligible to be included in a trade for 30 days.

— Anthony Chiang (@Anthony_Chiang) July 2, 2022



slightly noteworthy

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 July 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

feel like the price for kd is going to be too high for the heat or any smart team

lag∞n, Saturday, 2 July 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link

hollinger floated out that the clips should trade paul george to get KD he's right

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 2 July 2022 23:56 (one year ago) link

it depends what the market actually is. if he convinces the nets/the rest of the league that there’s only two teams they can trade him to then it won’t be

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 July 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

there’s a chance he ends up fetching the nets less than gobert

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 July 2022 23:58 (one year ago) link

i guess russ for kyrie is a legit thing that's being discussed now?

Clay, Saturday, 2 July 2022 23:58 (one year ago) link

it works pretty well for both sides

call all destroyer, Saturday, 2 July 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link

russ and what

mookieproof, Sunday, 3 July 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

the lakers constantly being rescued from their managerial incompetence <<<<<<<

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 3 July 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

russ and the lakers 2027 pick prob

call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 July 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

it depends what the market actually is. if he convinces the nets/the rest of the league that there’s only two teams they can trade him to then it won’t be

― J0rdan S., Saturday, July 2, 2022 7:57 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

in that case the nets have no reason to trade him

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 July 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

suns are prob ready to back up the truck anyway

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 July 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

in that case the nets have no reason to trade him

― lag∞n, Saturday, July 2, 2022 8:13 PM (one hour ago)

it doesn't seem like this one is gonna go that way

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 July 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

could see it

Report: Raptors believe they can build best package for Kevin Durant, who’s ‘at least open’ to idea of playing in Toronto https://t.co/Jnl3mX6So0

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) July 2, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 July 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

one kind of funny thing about this whole situation is for anyone who watched the playoffs durant is obviously not as good as everyone thinks

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 July 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link

hes 33 hes injured a lot he pretty much just takes elbow jumpers now

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 July 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

i could see it working in the right situation but still someone is going to give up too much for maybe a two year championship window

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 July 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link

yeah that’s the big thing, he’s not a top 5 player anymore and you’re trading for his decline years

k3vin k., Sunday, 3 July 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

hollinger:

The Miami megadeal
Trading Durant to his other preferred choice, Miami, is equally complicated. For starters, Durant wants to go there to play with Jimmy Butler, not to be traded for him. Second, Bam Adebayo can’t be part of a trade as long as Ben Simmons is a Net, as a result of that same CBA provision on “designated rookie” deals that scuppered our Mitchell scenarios above.

There is one way around this, however: Put Simmons in the trade. I doubt Miami wants him, but tough noogies. If you want Durant, this is what you have to take with him. Simmons would be Miami’s DeAndre Jordan.

If that’s the case, then suddenly we can get to Miami trades that actually work. How about one where Miami sends out Adebayo, Kyle Lowry, Duncan Robinson, Tyler Herro, two unprotected firsts (2023 and 2028) and three pick swaps (2024, 2027, and 2029) for Durant, Simmons and Seth Curry?

It still seems tricky. The Heat might argue they don’t need to include this much draft equity, and would surely look for scenarios to avoid including Adebayo at all. Since those scenarios basically don’t exist, it might be a conservation-ender. Even if it wasn’t, Simmons would become a guy the Heat had to count on — yikes — and they wouldn’t have a center.

But they would have Kevin Durant.

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 July 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

bam and simmons are pretty similar players tbf

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 July 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

think that deal has too many swaps not enough picks in it for the nets, having a swap with miami is pointless theyre always good

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 July 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

i dont get any KD-to-miami deal tbh, herro is not good enough to be a centerpiece, the miami picks wont be any good, losing bam to get simmo seems like a step back to take a step forward, kyle might be washed, duncan robinson's contract is underwater.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 3 July 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

bam and simmons are pretty similar players tbf

― lag∞n, Sunday, July 3, 2022 1:41 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

pretty big difference though in that one of them is confirmed to play basketball and the other is not

ciderpress, Sunday, 3 July 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

bam is better in every facet of the game and also has a certain… mentality… that the heat prize and which simmons lacks

i wouldn’t trade bam for KD and i doubt the heat would either

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 July 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

the heat’s path to KD is KD forcing his way there, they aren’t going to be able to outbid an open market. if KD wants to go to phoenix that just makes too much sense, tho i’m not sure a package headlined by bridges is all that exciting personally. but you could feel good about suns picks 3-5 years out being juicy just based on how bad the franchise is

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 July 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

suddenly we can get to Miami trades that actually work

but not trades that actually make sense

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 3 July 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

Seems like the phx, Toronto and GS have the best shot at this.

Spottie, Sunday, 3 July 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

Does KD have Heat mentality? He has definitely been a competitive, hard working guy. But he's also done everything by now (according to a fair observer). Suppose Butler could reignite the hunger.

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 July 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

Kd works really hard no way he wouldn’t fit the heat culture.

Spottie, Sunday, 3 July 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

kd is still clearly trying to win when hes on the court

ciderpress, Sunday, 3 July 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link

bam is better in every facet of the game and also has a certain… mentality… that the heat prize and which simmons lacks

― J0rdan S., Sunday, July 3, 2022 2:39 PM (thirty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

cmon simmons is a much better ballhandler passer and transition player theyre prob equal defenders, however it is true ben does not have that dog in him, he has a dog deficit

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 July 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

regardless theyre just similar players stylistically, which is kinda interesting cause theyre both freaks, idk who else is really like them draymond maybe

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 July 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

giannis

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 July 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

bam is the closest thing to giannis in the league in terms of size + athleticism combo and defensive ability/versatility and turning rim protection to solo offense on the fast break. and yet giannis is miles better than him which is a testament to how incredibly good giannis is

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 July 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

yeah giannis has those guys type capabilities but is also a dominant scorer

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 July 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

Hearing some Durant to the Warriors chatter, which I do not care for

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Sunday, 3 July 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

Yah no thx

Spottie, Sunday, 3 July 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

i thought i heard that the warriors had signaled no interest from their end pretty clearly

call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 July 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link

Likely they’re just driving the price up lol

Spottie, Sunday, 3 July 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

think i read that kd said the dubs were the one team he specifically did not want to go to

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 July 2022 21:43 (one year ago) link

yah but is it like "oh PLEASE don't trade me to the warriors. i would HATE to play for the warriors. that's the LAST place i want to be"

Clay, Sunday, 3 July 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

yeah thats the quote i saw

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 July 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

if it’s true that he’s being motivated at least in part by wanting to win a title “on his own” like steph was able to do then going to the warriors isn’t a solution

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 July 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link

also given that the warriors accomplished their goal of winning another title while building a young core of players thru the draft it seems counterintuitive that they would then turn around and trade kuminga etc for KD

J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 July 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link

itd be tragicomic if the dubs trade their young players and then kd and klay get injured again

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 3 July 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

i very much doubt either side is all that interested no matter what rumors are out there.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 July 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

yeah i do not at all actually believe kd wants to go to the warriors fwiw

Clay, Sunday, 3 July 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

Hard to believe the Dubs and KD are going to call do over

that's not my post, Monday, 4 July 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

Don't even say that bise.

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Monday, 4 July 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link

I miss KB. He would understand and explain everything that I’m not allowed to. Honestly he was the greatest Laker ever. He understood team over self. Meaning your rewards would come if you valued team goals over your own then everything would fall into place. All can reply.

— Jeanie Buss (@JeanieBuss) July 4, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 4 July 2022 13:09 (one year ago) link

i also miss kwame brown

mookieproof, Monday, 4 July 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Monday, 4 July 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

lolol i guess 2004 never happened and i guess kobe's entire personality never happened either

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 4 July 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

Ah reading a little more closely that's just highlighting that the players would be ok with a reunion.

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Monday, 4 July 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

katie is a bitch

moullet, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 12:45 (one year ago) link

Free agent TJ Warren has agreed to a deal with the Brooklyn Nets, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 5, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

REPORT: The Nets are making free agency moves “as if Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving are returning next season”.

(via @ShamsCharania, @PatMcAfeeShow) pic.twitter.com/YuoENmMTXy

— Legion Hoops (@LegionHoops) July 5, 2022

lmao if nets just sit and ride this out

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

It’s prob the best for both sides? Motivated Kyrie in a contract year. Harris back. Ben could be a good fit if he plays.

Spottie, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

wolves really pushing the we kept jaden mcdaniels line lol, i mean who cares you gave the store away anyway

Danny Ainge pushed hard to include Jaden McDaniels in the Rudy Gobert trade, sources tell @JonKrawczynski and @Tjonesonthenba.

The Wolves held firm and by Friday, the Jazz were amenable to greater draft pick compensation instead.https://t.co/oWZenZrvY4 pic.twitter.com/wIPJHLAolw

— The Athletic NBA (@TheAthleticNBA) July 5, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

it’s very strange. do casual nba fans even know who jaden mcdaniels is?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

i do not know who he is

ciderpress, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

reflecting upon the gobert trade seems pretty clear they were aiming for just being a playoff team for a while and rudy is a very reliable regular season floor raiser, also heard connelly is a big stats guy so he prob loves rudy lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

zach lowe talked to the good wolves guy at the athletic and he said there was an ownership push for this too and marc lore is also a big stats guy.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

They will be better

Spottie, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

i mean who cares you gave the store away anyway

When it comes to the Wolves, "being better for a few years" could be an all-time high point for the franchise, so it's not unreasonable to think the store that they gave away wouldn't have been very well-stocked anyway.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

think you got lost in the metaphor there

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

lmao if nets just sit and ride this out

― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, July 5, 2022 1:05 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i mean they have to at least pretend

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

some pretty funny reactions to them signing tj warren, which i don’t think is indicative of anything other than that they told tj warren they’d have minutes for him.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

okay!

Statement from Jody Allen pic.twitter.com/oAezfb398o

— Portland Trail Blazers (@trailblazers) July 5, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

good to know!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

email me if anything changes i guess

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

I think fundamentally you guys aren't Wolves fans so you ask "Why?" instead of "Fuck it, why not?"

have definitely seen more wolves positivity elsewhere compared to here

ciderpress, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

at some point it's important enough to simply work on improving your franchise's reputation even if your ceiling is below the finals

ciderpress, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

I mean the value they gave up was ridiculous, I was pretty bummed out about it, now I'm just like oh well this is going to be something

But if we, say, top out similar to Utah I will be happy to watch good, competitive basketball

Also I think there was a good chance running it back with the same core could have ended up outside the playoffs, we squeaked in

should be better than utah i think, worst case the defense outside of gobert is just as bad as utah's was but the offense is better

ciderpress, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

Maybe could they work on improving the reputation of the Minneapolis police while they're at it. Couldn't hurt.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

the "stats" stuff with gobert is really funny to me. do the t wolves have access to his stats in the playoffs

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

feel like theres a big downside risk of gobert starting another global pandemic too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

this trade keeps making me think about when the sixers paired up horford and embiid

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

that Jody Allen statement might as well say they’re riding out the franchise valuation inflation market to the very end, to the moon, hodl etc, but then I really wish they’d sold to knight who would at least guarantee the team sticks around

Clay, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

i've heard that sentiment a few places but isn't knight quite elderly at this point?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

yeah but he presumably would create a deeper trust to manage the situation going forward, as much as I can barely stand the guy I’ll admit that knight’s commitment to oregon athletic and educational institutions is rock solid (well, the ones he personally cares about, he’s that kind of billionaire)

Clay, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link

I dunno, part of this is what is success? Is nothing short of a championship success? Let's say Denver never gets over the hump, was that team a failure? Was this Celtics team this year a failure? Stockton/Malone Jazz?

If this Wolves tops out without a finals, maybe? But it's certainly wouldn't be like the Nets or Clippers (obv Clips could def still work out)

I guess it depends. Jord def seems to approach hoops from a omniscient "Dr Manhattan of Hoops" way, I'm more just a rube

even wolves fans could prob find a way to get sick of exiting the playoffs in the first couple rounds after a while, and i do think making moves that put a cap on your team from a performance time flexibility or whatever perspective is def a con worth considering when doing deals, but mostly i just think overpaying like they did is bad policy, also i dont like rudy gobert

but on the other hand they might be pretty good idk theres always a lot of unknown with a new mix of guys whether the supporting cast holds up etc but they could def imho be a consistent playoff maker

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

yeah i think we all agree this was mostly about improving their floor in the regular season and trying to consistently make the playoffs for the next several years but i think there were ways to do that without such a nuclear move.

even if i buy into the idea that they need to play KAT at the 4, getting gobert in response to that need is a very extreme allocation of resources--like using a sledgehammer to put a picture hanger up on the wall. a cheaper defensive center plus flexibility while edwards develops makes much more sense to me.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

a cheaper defensive center plus flexibility

paging Mr Looney

that's not my post, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link

they def werent thinking about ants timeline, gobert is 30 which is a problem on its own, but ant is only 20 and theyre giving up all these picks that they should be using to build around him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

damn joker looking trim out there

Well, if Nikola Jovic is going to take and make these. pic.twitter.com/6vs6WsOXi6

— Steve Jones Jr. (@stevejones20) July 5, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

you wanna be locked into the lad and probably kat but committing to ages 30-34 of gobert could
Really be an anchor around the whole operation for a decade to come seems like to me

Clay, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

The Wolves behaved like a franchise that can't attract top level free agents, has a history of sucking and new ownership desperately eager to show they are going to turn things around in short order.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

jovic cant be the joker jokic is the joker jovic is the jover

xxp

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link

the jester

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link

Isn't the Riddler the off-brand Joker?

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link

fuck you, frank gorshin was a legend

mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 23:41 (one year ago) link

i'm going to become the riddler

ciderpress, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

Re wolves sometimes it’s good just to be competitive and a really good team, you might find a path to the finals or conference finals by way of injuries or a run of good matchups (teams that don’t have a good small ball lineup). Raising your floor is always a good idea especially when you have a guy like ant who could raise the ceiling on his own. But the contract and price is really the only problem.

Spottie, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

Hope it works out for you Matt. The hawks era around that 60 win season were legit fun to watch even if deep in my heart I knew they could beat bron and the cavs.

Heez, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link

Memphis Grizzlies No. 38 pick Kennedy Chandler has agreed to a four-year, $7.1 million rookie deal, his agent Ryan Davis tells @TheAthletic @Stadium. The contract contains the largest guaranteed salary – $4.94M – for an American second-round pick.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 5, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 00:58 (one year ago) link

Pretty crazy, they must really love him

Spottie, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 00:58 (one year ago) link

ya thats weird

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

need to know if cade is shrinking

Big Rank pic.twitter.com/EmwXyaqUnJ

— Ashton (@AshtonDaTrainer) July 4, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

chet holmgren (and the rest of the thunder) tipping off on espn right now

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

might have to view that

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link

i listened to the zach lowe podcast w/ jon the athletic wolves writer & i found a lot of what he said about the wolves thinking to be wishful, to say the least. the part that is hard for to me get over is why they hired tim connelly just to execute a "trade every pick for one guy" trade. it's like they hired some great combat fighter and then threw all his weapons into a lake. idk. jon was saying that the t wolves are zigging where the rest of the league is zagging, and as a general rule if the t wolves are thinking they're one step ahead of every other team i'm going to assume they're actually about to zig right off a cliff.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link

chet got a block

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

chet got a dunk

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:08 (one year ago) link

i don't get that grizzlies thing, can a second rounder, like, hold out for a huge contract? seems unprecedented, congrats to his agent

Clay, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link

the part that is hard for to me get over is why they hired tim connelly just to execute a "trade every pick for one guy" trade. it's like they hired some great combat fighter and then threw all his weapons into a lake.

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, July 5, 2022 9:05 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah good point picks are kinda the tools of his trade

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

mb the griz contract was a promise

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

the central issue w/ the wolves all comes back to the fact that KAT is a great offensive player who is a defensive turnstile at the position where it's really hard to win important games if you have a turnstile on defense. so then that leads them to this "zigging the zag" thinking of pairing him w/ a center, even tho *at best* that is a strategy, come the playoffs, that works as part of a flexible roster that can play big and small. you'd think maybe ppl on the wolves had watched the wolves-grizzlies series where the grizz had to bench their center after one game bcuz the smaller team was shredding their defense. the wolves, one would assume, are not going to just bench rudy gobert in the first round of the playoffs even if the match up calls for it, so then they're just trying to jam this KAT-driven ideology down everyone's throats bcuz of what they gave up to protect him w/ a max contract center.

it's also funny to me that the "twin towers is back" narrative is being driven by the success of the cavs, who didn't even make it out of the play in round. i'm not an NBA GM but it might be better to try and emulate a different franchise idk

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

yeah i thought the same re all this flowing from kats bad d

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:14 (one year ago) link

chet hit a 3

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link

chets got 10 points

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:21 (one year ago) link

he's one of these guys who is gonna look so much better playing in the pros than in college and he already was an amazing college player

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:21 (one year ago) link

chet just dribbled the ball up the court whet behind his back and swished a 3

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link

the twin towers thing is definitely getting silly, what cleveland and boston (where neither guy is above 6'10" btw) and milwaukee are doing are actually all completely different things, driven by unique players with unusual skillsets.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link

chet got a block led the break and dished off for an and 1

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

so hyped for the era of holmgren primacy

Clay, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link

chet clearly too good for summer league after one quarter of play

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:29 (one year ago) link

this jazz team totally sucks, good to see him taking it to them

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:29 (one year ago) link

the broadcast just informed me that the two ja(y)l(e)(i)n williamses did the spiderman meme for a pic

now y'all can use the legit photo 😅😂 pic.twitter.com/Ggw6AIy6hJ

— OKC THUNDER (@okcthunder) June 26, 2022

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

im sorry they just have to trade one of them

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

one thing i still don't understand about the draft is why ppl weren't talking about chet as an elite shooter. his shot is as good as you could as for from that size

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 July 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link

maybe it's the body type maybe i'm crazy and i hesitate to even say it but when i watch chet there's always a few plays that remind me of KD

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 July 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

hah yeah i don't know about that but what i am taking away from this game is that his feel and IQ is as advertised or better

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link

praying 4 victor to end up a spur, i cannot live in a world with chet murking my spurs for the next 20 years

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 02:15 (one year ago) link

one thing i still don't understand about the draft is why ppl weren't talking about chet as an elite shooter. his shot is as good as you could as for from that size

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, July 5, 2022 10:08 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

was weird people were too busy talking about how skinny he is i guess

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:04 (one year ago) link

it's like they say you can't teach weight

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link

OKC looks fun but that definitely looked like a summer league run

Heez, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:12 (one year ago) link

spurs just picked up isaiah roby off waivers bc okc has too many guys, can imagine this will remain an issue for okc for the next several years as they will not have enough roster space to play the 2 or 3 guys they draft every year

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:17 (one year ago) link

like its definitely a good problem to have, theyve got 2 1sts next year (and 3 2nds), but they have 8 1RP picks between 2024 and 2025 (and 4 2RPs), feels like theyll need to trade a bunch of those picks and have to take back suboptimal value for them. like u cannot choose a whole roster worth of players in a two-year time span, its crazy.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:26 (one year ago) link

like imagine getting drafted by okc in the mid-2020s, like a kid being born into a polygamist family u r getting no attention unless its from an older sibling

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link

The weight thing obsession was really weird, like of all the things to worry about, KG was so skinny, Durant's infamous bench press, plus a player putting on weight over time is almost inevitable

Had vibes of a lot of the stuff I remember reading where all these ppl were talking themselves into Okafor over KAT

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

chet just looks frail is prob part of the issue, hes scrappy tho, see how well he hold sup i guess, one thing is he has narrow shoulders, much like kd, so thatll limit how much upper body weight he can put on

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link

he was definitely getting knocked around a bit in the paint last night, it’s going to keep happening but TBD if it rises to the level of being an actual issue.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 14:37 (one year ago) link

hell get bigger and stronger and prob just have to deal with getting pushed around by stronger guys anyway everyones got their strengths and weaknesses so to speak

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

prob get a lot of minutes at the 4 to start but if he can consistently hold up playing center my god having a guy with his offensive game there would be freaking apocalyptic

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link

they just need an undersized C to match his oversized PF and theyll be set

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link

i bet NBA teams worried less about chet's weight than random ppl on twitter or whatever but to me the key is that he moves fluidly and doesn't have any injury history or seem like a notable injury risk as far as big guys go. "porzingis" was trending on twitter last night during the game bcuz apparently lots of ppl were tweeting "this is what porzingis was supposed to be before the injuries" but porzingis had a certain stiffness you typically associate w/ a 7+ footer. chet isn't a huge leaper or anything but he's a much more natural athlete than is normal for that size & that's more important than the fact that he's skinny

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 July 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

there will be tons of ppl on TV etc saying you just have to be physical w/ chet and toss him around & obv there will be some adjustment for him going up against 28 year old beast big men. you're not gonna want him guarding jokic or whatever. but it reminds me a bit of steph where you had ppl saying for years that you had to rough him up and get him off his game but he was small and skinny his whole life and figured out how to be great anyway, he wasn't going to be affected by guys trying to be physical with him. steph did get noticeably bigger to hold up more on defense, it's not like the strength aspect is meaningless, but it wasn't some cheat code to neutralize him as a basketball player & i think chet will be the same way

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 July 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

saw a nice dirk step back fadeaway from him. hard to stop that

Heez, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

the polish on his game for his age and extremely tall body is crazy, he was treating those utah scrubs like assistant coaches lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

His free throw percentages were really good that helps

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

Chet Holmgren with one of the most impressive halves in Summer League history. pic.twitter.com/rjfSnWr4KV

— Nekias (Nuh-KY-us) Duncan (@NekiasNBA) July 6, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

Don't get a big head J0rd, but I am still chuckling at ums "Dr. Manhattan of basketball".

Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

Within One Hour. pic.twitter.com/CxD63JWtNr

— 𝕣𝕒𝕔𝕜𝕤 (@SpotlightChet) July 6, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

i mean, if chet is KAT who can actually play defense he's one of the best players in the NBA lol

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 July 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

One contract signed today that stands out is the five-year $251M one for Bradley Beal. Negotiated by Mark Bartelstein of @PrioritySports, the Beal contract consists of a no trade clause. He is the only player in the league to have a true no trade clause.

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) July 6, 2022



hysterical basketball franchise

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 July 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

*pfunk voice* 🎶if i were a wizard of finaaaaaance/
i would probably spend it alllll on brad beallll/
i'd be busy giving him no trade clauses/
just to show I appreciate him being here🎶

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link

ted leonsis should’ve thrown in his house and given beal his social security number too just to be safe

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 July 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link

it's really sad. i had to tell this dude who was all psyched about them getting John Collins that he wasn't gonna save their franchise. nothing will

Heez, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

like its definitely a good problem to have, theyve got 2 1sts next year (and 3 2nds), but they have 8 1RP picks between 2024 and 2025 (and 4 2RPs), feels like theyll need to trade a bunch of those picks and have to take back suboptimal value for them. like u cannot choose a whole roster worth of players in a two-year time span, its crazy.

They only have one next year (the best of their own and the Clippers).

It is tricky though - I think they've mostly got a good young core already, who just need time to develop. I don't think 2RPs are much use to them at the moment. They did package up three protected 2023 1RPs to get Ousmane Dieng this year, which was a good deal. Dieng is pretty pivotal for OKC - if he turns into a classy wing/forward, he's like the missing piece to go with Chet/Giddey/SGA/Dort/Jalen Williams, plus Mann as a bench scorer and Poku as a whatever-he-is.

aphoristical, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

i think having all the picks is good its cool its workable picks are highly fungible

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link

having 20 20 year olds in your org is maybe kind of weird but it seems to be working out pretty well for them so far

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

lol that beal deal is something else god bless the washington wizards god bless brad beal

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 21:51 (one year ago) link

no trade clause is the cherry on top pretty funny since the contract was nearly untradable from the moment it was signed

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 21:51 (one year ago) link

brad beal one of the most ????? guys in nba history to me, incredible talent who made a zillion dollars doing nothing while playing with no one on a nothing franchise, like some ABA guy whose name you stumble on and go “huh weird this dude averaged 26 ppg for 7 years for … buffalo?”

Clay, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

ehh feel like theres a couple good players like that per generation that are happy to just be the franchise guy

ciderpress, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link

its not like he's an mvp level player

ciderpress, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link

They only have one next year (the best of their own and the Clippers).

― aphoristical, Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:46 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

ah this is what i get for using fanspo. so it looks like 2025 is just...3 1RPs? with swap rights with TWO teams for their own pick?

https://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Thunder.htm

bananas

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 23:16 (one year ago) link

2024, OKC have:
Own; HOU 5-30; LAC; UTH 11-30

I imagine they'll need to keep kicking some of them down the road?

aphoristical, Thursday, 7 July 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

Or they’ll trade them for the right piece

Heez, Thursday, 7 July 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

Kenny Lofton Jr. is doing WORK on Chet Holmgren early 👀 pic.twitter.com/vAszsD6Tmd

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) July 6, 2022



kenny lofton 😂😮‍💨

— Ja Morant (@JaMorant) July 6, 2022

Heez, Thursday, 7 July 2022 00:57 (one year ago) link

imagine for a second that you're mark bartelstein and you're like "hey can we throw in a no-trade?" and they say sure. god that must be satisfying.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 7 July 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link

hey when you've got a guy coming off a season where you missed half the year and had a career-worst shooting from 3, youve gotta make sure and wrap that guy up for a quarter billi before the knicks try some funny business

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 7 July 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

this might inspire me to do a worst-run franchise c. 2022 poll

call all destroyer, Thursday, 7 July 2022 01:42 (one year ago) link

lots of competition this year

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 7 July 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

offhand i think there are 3 options, 4 if you're feeling spicy, but it would be fun to open it up to all of course

call all destroyer, Thursday, 7 July 2022 01:45 (one year ago) link

dont agree that okc will get less value back because they have to many picks. picks are a finite resource so if anything they can drive value up via cornering the market

micah, Thursday, 7 July 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link

well now i'm talking about it so i might as well do it worst-run NBA franchise as of the 2022 offseason

call all destroyer, Thursday, 7 July 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link

cannot get over this Bradley Beal contract, it reminds me of MLB 10-15 years ago when teams would sign 30 year old overweight sluggers who can't play defense to these insane 9 year contracts even though players fitting that profile almost always declined after 1-2 years and would usually become unplayable after 5. but the GMs wouldn't give a shit because they knew if they didn't turn things around fast they'd be fired anyway. actually this whole offseason has reminded me of that. they're making moves as if they knew the world was ending next year

frogbs, Thursday, 7 July 2022 03:07 (one year ago) link

...well...

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link

feel like the wizards were just like fuck were doing our own thing (being bad)

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 13:42 (one year ago) link

please applaud this business move

"People can’t accept the fact that athletes are now businessmen and no longer just playing basketball."

Draymond Green on Kevin Durant making the best "business" decision for his career 🔥pic.twitter.com/ps3k6GhaFD

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) July 7, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

im not a business man, im a business, man
trade me bc you want give a max extension to my conspiracy friend😎😎😎

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link

*won't, jfc

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link

most ridiculous part is there are actually people who celebrate when lebron is declared a billionaire or whatever

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

if you want me to be enthused about your business decisions you have to give me a cut thats the rule, im not talking about anything big just let me wet my beak, weve all got to eat

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link

draymond is setting a new standard for guys saying dumb shit that they think it really smart

call all destroyer, Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link

hes really passionate about it lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

Woah if this is where the Nets are at in terms of a trade

Report: Nets asked the Timberwolves for Karl Anthony Towns, Anthony Edwards, and 4 first round draft picks for Kevin Durant, per @VinceGoodwill

Minnesota had no interest in a deal. pic.twitter.com/aPXSre1ud0

— Top Ball Coverage (@TopBallCoverage) July 7, 2022

lmao good luck

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

lmaoooooooooooooooo kd is staying PUT

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

tbf they heard from utah that neighborhood gives out full size candy bars

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

How about a three team deal where the nets get Doncic and Embiid and the mavs and sixers get KD for one half of the season

Heez, Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

xpost from the press conference, I get the sense they made some calls on bigger stars prior to gobert so I wonder if it had the effect of making the gobert deal more reasonable

seems like maybe the nets are going to pretend to try to trade kd then be like oh well well have to play this season out and hope it goes well enough that everyone wants to stay

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

either that or they really think the gobert deal one of the craziest overpays in the history of the league is "setting the market"

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

i mean i think they could get a gobert type deal but they cant get a based on how much better kd is than gobert type deal

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

would be funny if they make a nice run with kyrie being a perfect citizen then they resign him and he goes back to his old tricks

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

pretty likely tbh

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

does Kyrie have a catchphrase in this spec script?

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

"I'm a baaad widdle boy!", said with a wink to the camera.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

watching highlights of the griz/okc game, Kenny Lofton jr will definitely push Zion in the competition for the Kia NBA Thicc Boi of the Year award next season

today i learned that former baseball player kenny lofton (no relation to kenny lofton jr.) played hoops at arizona with steve kerr and sean elliott

circles, Thursday, 7 July 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

what thats crazy

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 July 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

haha i just looked up kenny lofton jr on wiki because he is not in the least built like kenny lofton the baseball player

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 July 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

lol, yeah

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/ken-lofton-1.html

circles, Thursday, 7 July 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link

bummer, started watching the okc game right now and chet is in street clothes

Brow Holmgren

Spottie, Thursday, 7 July 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link

magic/rockets starting on ESPNU of all places thanks to the nhl draft

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 July 2022 02:10 (one year ago) link

show some respect

mookieproof, Friday, 8 July 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link

i'm sorry the what

Clay, Friday, 8 July 2022 02:17 (one year ago) link

the nhl draft is like the military draft, they dont have enough ppl voluntarily playing hockey so canadian teens sign up for the nhl draft to see who will make the ultimate sacrifice in service of their country

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 8 July 2022 05:37 (one year ago) link

I really wish I wasn't in the "state of hockey" really annoying culture

Fans made Jalen Williams take a photo of them with Chet Holmgren in the Summer League 😂

(via jalenjdubwilliams/IG) pic.twitter.com/pBhH1Fdx8v

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) July 8, 2022

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2022 13:01 (one year ago) link

Sources: James Harden is taking a $15 million paycut for next season that allowed Philadelphia to elevate roster — with sole focus on a championship run in 2023. Harden opted out of his $47M player option and now plans to sign a new two-year deal with a player option in Year 2.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 8, 2022



That’s one way to frame it

Spottie, Friday, 8 July 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

some quality shams mushmouth prose here

Everyone around Harden has understood the focus on his workout regimen this offseason and a championship goal for 2022-23. His close relationships with those around the organization, including Michael Rubin and Daryl Morey, played a major role in trust between the two sides. https://t.co/q1eDY9xrDy

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 8, 2022

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 July 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

love to play a major role in trust between two sides

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

lol yeah... this relationship is so stable that everyone can get out of it after two years max

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 July 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

That first sentence is a shams masterclass

Spottie, Friday, 8 July 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

harden is strengthening his shoulders and triceps by throwing dollar bills in the air

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 July 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

Damian Lillard has signed a two-year $122 million extension with the Portland Trail Blazers, sources tell ESPN. The extension has a player option for the 2026-27 season.

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) July 8, 2022



ok

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 July 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

$61M per year????

Spottie, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link

hey when youve got a chance to pay someone the most money ever in a season, it should be a mid-30s small guard on the way down in his career

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 8 July 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link

thats cool i make $62m a year

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

why did the blazers feel the need to do this rn lmao

Spottie, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

$62 million dollars isnt cool do you know what's cool $69 million dollars

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 8 July 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link

the sex million number

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

why did the blazers feel the need to do this rn lmao

― Spottie, Friday, July 8, 2022 5:32 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

cause there was a story that jody allen wasnt returning his phone calls

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

too many dame dollas imo

circles, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

def more than one

lag∞n, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:38 (one year ago) link

I’ve never made less than 61 million in a year so to me this seems absolutely normal and fine

Clay, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link

clay lemme hold $20...million

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 8 July 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

actually when they called me to ask what to do I said “minimum you give the guy 61 million” so in a way they’re paying him the minimum

Clay, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

*extremely bernie voice* no working family in america should be making less than $61 million dollars an hour

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 8 July 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link

i am watching spurs-cavs summer league and the 2nd round pick from cleveland named travers looks like a 35-year-old session guitarist for the allman brothers

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 8 July 2022 21:51 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FV_a4zAacAAyjNN?format=jpg&name=900x900

"i was thinking of just going down the fretboard here in G and then getting a nice 8-bar solo before w get back into the chorus, what do yall think?"

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 8 July 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link

i just knew he was an aussie lol

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 July 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

Here is the Lillard contract breakdown:

Current contract

22-23: $42.5M
23-24: $45.6M
24-25: $48.8M

Extension*

25-26: $58.5M
26-27: $63.3M (P)

The extension numbers could be adjusted based on the salary cap in 2025-26. It cannot exceed 35% of the cap for that season.

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) July 8, 2022

lmfao i did not realize this extension runs through dame's year 37 season

Clay, Friday, 8 July 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

haha that is very afl hair rn

micah, Friday, 8 July 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link

maybe just... wait to see how he looks this season after coming back from a core injury? also maybe just... dont pay someone 62 million in their age 37 season unless theyve brought you multiple chips or finals appearances? big yikes

Spottie, Friday, 8 July 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link

the streets deserve kyrie on the lakers

Lakers insider says there’s ‘slight divide’ between LeBron James and front office about which players to target: https://t.co/HRVIMy5J5A

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) July 8, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 8 July 2022 23:16 (one year ago) link

it needs to happen

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 July 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

There's Dame Time so he wil be paid only $37.50 per Dame Year

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 9 July 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

thats cool i make $62m a year

The m stands for Monopoly[tm].

Lionel Chutzpah (Leee), Saturday, 9 July 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

i am watching spurs-cavs summer league and the 2nd round pick from cleveland named travers looks like a 35-year-old session guitarist for the allman brothers

― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, July 8, 2022 4:51 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's my greatest wish that his father is 70s hard rock journeyman Pat Travers

monopoly man is rich as hell cmon

lag∞n, Saturday, 9 July 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

https://www.kindpng.com/picc/m/338-3387682_monopoly-man-with-money-bag-hd-png-download.png

the b stands for basketball

Clay, Saturday, 9 July 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

Why lollll

For the first time, rings will be handed out to the Summer League champions. We got an exclusive look on NBA Today. What do you think? pic.twitter.com/HovjFNXKFE

— Malika Andrews (@malika_andrews) July 8, 2022

Spottie, Saturday, 9 July 2022 01:55 (one year ago) link

they'll be tossed into a drawer or a shoebox by the recipients and quickly forgotten.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 9 July 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link

I guess the NBA just had to have its own version of the NIT.

Lionel Chutzpah (Leee), Saturday, 9 July 2022 05:45 (one year ago) link

Miami appears to be taking the approach that Udonis Haslem will be back for his 20th season, per @IraHeatBeat

A 20th season is reportedly ‘personally meaningful’ to his legacy pic.twitter.com/V3zQew6awN

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) July 8, 2022

Spottie, Saturday, 9 July 2022 06:38 (one year ago) link

Michael Porter Jr. only played in nine games last season before back pain shut his season down. Porter underwent back surgery and was reportedly ramping up his activity late in the season.

Porter is now pain free and excited to started next season.

"I think I'm 100% at this point. It's a blessing. I feel good," Porter told NBATV. "I'm excited to get back on the court and play basketball."

nugs <3

moullet, Sunday, 10 July 2022 10:14 (one year ago) link

Reporter: "I was talking to your coach Steve Nash & he's encouraging you to look for your shot & your teammates"

Cam Thomas rolls eyes "It is what it is"

Seems even sophomore Cam Thomas is tired of Steve Nash "coaching"#NetsWorld pic.twitter.com/CDfNxHVUzS

— Jeri Tsai (@JeriTsaiNets) July 10, 2022

Spottie, Sunday, 10 July 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

steeth gnash

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 10 July 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

lol that reflects much more poorly on cam thomas than steve nash

call all destroyer, Monday, 11 July 2022 01:47 (one year ago) link

That’s what I was thinking. Weird energy.

Spottie, Monday, 11 July 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

soon enough cam will discover that nash controls the minutes he plays

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 11 July 2022 01:55 (one year ago) link

Unless he’s canned lol. Nash just might be too chill to be an nba coach. You gotta have a little dawg (asshole) in you I think.

Spottie, Monday, 11 July 2022 02:12 (one year ago) link

yeah you get more scrappy overachiever types being coaches than super skilled stars

lag∞n, Monday, 11 July 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link

nash is probably like ok guys just play together be super good at basketball

lag∞n, Monday, 11 July 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link

it's true that if they're not going to be a superteam then there is no point in having nash as coach

call all destroyer, Monday, 11 July 2022 02:40 (one year ago) link

nash is probably like ok guys just play together be super good at basketball

― lag∞n, Sunday, July 10, 2022 9:38 PM (thirty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

'have u tried just pulling up and shooting it and making it? i dont understand what the problem is ben.'

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 11 July 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link

ok ben watch this *drains 3* do that

lag∞n, Monday, 11 July 2022 03:17 (one year ago) link

"promiscuous" on repeat in the gymnasium

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 11 July 2022 06:21 (one year ago) link

“We believe that the Indiana Pacers are very close to giving Deandre Ayton an offer sheet or executing a sign-and-trade…We could see something with the Pacers and Ayton as early as today.” (via @WindhorstESPN) pic.twitter.com/6iKsfox82T

— The Trade Deadline (@_TradeDeadline) July 11, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 11 July 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

huh

one of the great summer league things to do as a nba fan is get unreasonably hyped about a player who will probably be in the g-league all next season

Josh Minott Summer League Film Breakdown:

- intriguing flashes of self-creation; more offensive upside than expected

- two-way versatility; can play on the perimeter + the interior on offense + on defense

- contagious energy; the never-ending enthusiasm is fun to watch

🔊 ON pic.twitter.com/IhWjCJYNXS

— Timberwolves Clips (@WolvesClips) July 9, 2022

im trying to remember which athletic guy it was (i think it was hollinger) who was very high on minott as a prospect

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 11 July 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

did he say "spot up shooting equity" lmao

lag∞n, Monday, 11 July 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

get finance bros out of hoops imo

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 11 July 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

this guy owns like 20k shares of shot blocking which is great but unfortunately im going to have to exercise my put option on his perimeter d

lag∞n, Monday, 11 July 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

r jeff is the feds?

The NBA just announced that Richard Jefferson — yes, THE Richard Jefferson — will referee the second quarter of the Knicks-Blazers summer league game tonight.

— Fred Katz (@FredKatz) July 11, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 11 July 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

quelle surprise

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 11 July 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

compare this to the ayton video game story:
https://theathletic.com/3411166/2022/07/11/pistons-saddiq-bey-mountains-grid/?source=emp_shared_article

Spottie, Monday, 11 July 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

Xxxpost it was Hollinger, he loved Minott, way off of the consensus

ah very interesting

The asking price appears to be steep, but in the wake of Utah’s recent Rudy Gobert blockbuster deal to Minnesota, the Jazz are no longer simply dismissing calls on Mitchell, sources said.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 12, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

lol. you don’t say

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

Notable Kevin Durant update from @wojespn:

- Heat are "most determined" to land Kevin Durant
- Heat, Suns will "need some help" from other teams to help facilitate Durant deal
- No progress with Raptors for Durant because Scottie Barnes is a "non-starter" in trade negotiations pic.twitter.com/OJ8LlDRNYx

— Evan Sidery (@esidery) July 12, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

i may have already said it but i'll say it again, i do not see how miami has the assets to get KD, 3rd team or not

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link

yeah toronto can still put together a better package without barnes

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:45 (one year ago) link

the price might end up lower than goberts

Spottie, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

he will 100% go for lower than gobert, and mithchell too. if the nets were going to get a gobert level package for him he'd already be out the door

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

bet itll end up being for fewer picks but with a meaningful player or two in it, better than gobert but not as better as durant is than gobert

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:50 (one year ago) link

conspiracy theory based on nothing: nets will not trade kd at all, kd only publicized the trade demand so he could remain in kyrie's good graces but he's secretly relieved to be rid of kyrie

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

the nets are in a horrible position, KD has publicly demanded a trade and unless he changes his mind they have no leverage other than "we'll make you play for us as a hostage." when you combine that + his insistence on choosing his team & the rest of the league's reticence to give up a haul of assets for a 34 year old who doesn't want to be on their team, the result is going to be a trade that pales in comparison to the other star trades we've seen recently

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

like siakim van vleet and two firsts, is that better than what the jazz got yeah i think it is but its not a "slam dunk"

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

i suspect the nets will be fine with hanging on to him until someone steps up and also that hes prob fine with going to more teams than just the suns and the heat

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link

many people seem to think the suns are going to get him which tbf sounds pretty likely when you consider that we recently learned that their gm doesnt believe in the future

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:58 (one year ago) link

he will 100% go for lower than gobert, and mithchell too. if the nets were going to get a gobert level package for him he'd already be out the door

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:49 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it could come later tho

Spottie, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link

i also dont really see kd sitting out if he has to stay? doesnt seem like his m.o.

Spottie, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link

it could come later tho

― Spottie, Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:05 PM (thirty-eight seconds ago)

i don't think the nets leverage is going to increase over time. the process dragging out is not a positive for them, imo

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

conspiracy theory based on nothing: nets will not trade kd at all, kd only publicized the trade demand so he could remain in kyrie's good graces but he's secretly relieved to be rid of kyrie

― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:53 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i like this lol. would be amazing if he ends up having to play with russ again as the consequence

Spottie, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

it could come later tho

― Spottie, Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:05 PM (thirty-eight seconds ago)

i don't think the nets leverage is going to increase over time. the process dragging out is not a positive for them, imo

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, July 12, 2022 4:07 PM (fifty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk, hes got 4 years on his contract

Spottie, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

i just dont see them taking pennies on the dollar for him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link

i don't think it really does anything for them to get into a ben simmons like showdown w/ him. what is the positive outcome for them? a brooding and annoyed KD playing for a middle of the road team? are they gonna force him to play the full 4 years? bcuz his trade value decreases w/ every next game he plays. if they foresee a trade at some point in the next 4 years they might as well just do it now. their other problem is that their model as a glamor market team is to be in the star hunting business and because of that they will prob need to play nice w/ him. you can't really be playing hardball w/ stars and then be trying to convince other stars that you're the best place for them

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link

i dont think miamis going to get him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link

who can they even trade that wouldnt hobble the team

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link

the whole thing has an extreme "cut your losses" vibe to me. they screwed this up massively at several points along the way, they might as well recoup whatever value they can for him now and figure out the next phase of the franchise

it would be one thing if they hadn't just gotten swept out of the first round w/ a fully healthy KD on the court. what is the path for them to accomplish anything w/ KD at this point? does anyone think they have a chance of beating out boston, milwaukee, miami, philly to even have a shot at a title? the experiment is over, they failed. KD asking out while he's still considered a top 5 player in the league might be a blessing in disguise at this point

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link

i think they can find a big deal for him, hes too good to not bring in a haul

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link

suns have all their picks btw

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link

tho i suspect what the nets really want is to give this kd/kyrie/simmons team a try

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

who can they even trade that wouldnt hobble the team

― lag∞n, Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:15 PM (two minutes ago)

if it really just comes down to phoenix and miami i think you could make the argument that herro & strus are an equal or better package of players compared to bridges & cam johnson. if you're competing for a title you'd rather have bridges than herro but bridges on a gutted roster isn't doing much for you, herro prob has more value bcuz he can run offense. strus is great value on a minimum deal and duncan robinson as salary filler is pretty easily rehabbed, he was fine last year he just wasn't good enough to play on a team that was legitimately competing for a title. but there's plenty of teams that could use him. so it would come down to who was willing to cough up more picks & for that reason i think it would be phoenix but it could be the heat, at that point who knows

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

lol yeah kds not getting traded for herro and strus

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

i'm sure the nets agree which is why he hasn't been traded yet. but if he goes to miami or phoenix it would really be a trade for picks and they would just have to accept the role player appetizer sampler as the players in return. bcuz they aren't getting butler, bam, cp3, booker or ayton. so who is left?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

i think they can find a big deal for him, hes too good to not bring in a haul

― lag∞n, Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:20 PM (two minutes ago)

the raptors are the key team. but if it's a market that is closed to all but 3 teams it's going to naturally depress what the nets can get back for him regardless of how good ppl think he is. the best case scenario for them is to have phoenix and toronto bidding against each other bcuz phoenix will offer the mega picks package and then maybe the nets can hit the sweet spot of getting a siakam + van vleet + picks package from the raptors. but the raptors have no real incentive to do that if all phoenix and miami are offering are the equally middling packages of role players and 2-3 firsts and swaps

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link

i mean first of all bridges and johnson are much better than herro and strus and the suns have one more first available to trade than the heat, but also the idea that kd cant be traded to another team or that either the heat or the suns wont let a good player peel off seems pretty dubious

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link

worth noting too re holding on to kd if they dont find a deal they like that all the contracts signed this summer become eligible to be traded at some point during the season so their is some incentive to wait, also theres time for teams to decide they need him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link

lol yeah kds not getting traded for herro and strus

― lag∞n, Tuesday, July 12, 2022 4:25 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

hah yeah man no way jordan. if bam isnt in on it the nets arent doing it. theyre gonna hold til they get at LEAST one all star level player back.

Spottie, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link

theyre gonna hold til they get at LEAST one all star level player back.

― Spottie, Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:39 PM (two minutes ago)

yeah daryl morey played this game too and he ended up having to attach seth curry and two first round picks to get back james harden

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:44 (one year ago) link

this is what a heat trade looks like

https://i.imgur.com/Q5gVF41.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:44 (one year ago) link

that was ben simmons tho xp

Spottie, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:44 (one year ago) link

its also a very reasonable deal for the james harden that exists in moreys mind

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

heir other problem is that their model as a glamor market team is to be in the star hunting business and because of that they will prob need to play nice w/ him. you can't really be playing hardball w/ stars and then be trying to convince other stars that you're the best place for them

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, July 12, 2022 4:14 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think tsai might be rethinking their stance on how they team build going forward.

Spottie, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link

Did u add to your legacy today? If so, what did u do?

— Kevin Durant (@KDTrey5) July 12, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link

the heat aren't trading bam to get KD

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

i mean i wouldnt

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:56 (one year ago) link

but they would be getting back a very similar player in ben simmons just with heat culture levels set to zero

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

they could consider it a challenge

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

i think for the heat the calculus is pretty simple. if they're in a bidding war w/ phoenix they won't have to trade bam bcuz phoenix won't be putting a comparable player on the table and so it's just about whether they're willing to put in more picks than phoenix. and if it's an open market then other teams will be able to put together better packages and they'll just keep their assets for mitchell or whatever else

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link

considering the suns have one more pick available to trade than the heat and they famously do not value the draft pretty sure theyre winning that one

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:06 (one year ago) link

3 firsts and the pupu platter might get it done for mitchell but i kinda think not

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link

the knicks have a ton of picks they can trade and are rumored to love him

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

unless the jazz are in love with herro or something which i guess is not impossible

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

also you just gotta feel better getting knicks picks than heat picks

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

correct. the knicks make way more sense than the heat on a number of levels it just depends on whether mitchell can credibly force his way to one team, my guess is probably not. i also think ainge would try and rip riley's beating heart out of his chest in that trade so idk

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

lol those guys have hated each other for longer than half the world has been alive, you can only tip your cap

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

going back to the nets -- i think it was nate dnucan who pointed out that the nets obligations in 2023 and 2025 are pick swaps w/ the rocekts who will def be a bottom 5 team next year and will prob be a lottery team again in 2025. so there is a path for the nets to give up on this idea of "competing" with an "all star level player" and instead just get a mega picks haul for KD, draft an elite prospect next year's draft and then go from there armed w/ whoever that is plus whatever picks they get. getting bounced in the first round w/ siakam and van vleet and getting the 20th pick just feels like beating your head against a wall, to me

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link

yeah those picks they sent to houston are a sunk cost they should just take the best deal they can get, but there is prob some urge to save face particularly considering the celtics just went to the finals with a team built on ripping them off, but then i guess the reasonable part is they dont have the usual incentive to be bad bottoming out isnt as good as it usually is

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

if they could get a very young good player or two guys with some sort of potential thats prob best where siakim and van vleet are both already 28

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

i don't feel like there is a team out there that has a very good young player they would be willing to give up and who is also close enough to contending that trading for KD makes sense. the closest i can come up with is jarren jackson + desmond bane but i feel like the grizzlies wouldn't actually do that

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

to me the realistic "all star" level players for KD are, like, siakam and brandon ingram. and at that point i'd prob just go the mega picks haul route

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

i would too but that route gets sean marks fired in the next year or two, unless tsai is totally on board with rebuilding this thing again and getting back to a nice 45-win team that has a little buzz and wins a play-in game.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

my point being it is very hard to prognosticate this since we don't really know how the nets see their team in a post-KD world

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link

yeah that's true xp. tsai is definitely in that new ownership phase where he will pick the shortest but most destructive route to perceived relevance

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

buying a sports team is the dumbest thing to do with billions of dollars theres like a 50% chance everyone in the city will end up hating you

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

smart money tho

Spottie, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

it has been recently

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link

its has been for a long time tbf, but mostly seemed to track to the legitimate growth of the leagues, then recently the prices just went nuts which you gotta think will level off at least at some point, unless people want to be paying ten billion for the thunder or whatever

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

i personally would rather buy ten billion snickers bars

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

I would buy a team and then turn it over to ILH to run it, all decisions made via polls

Spottie, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link

Flash poll: How many draft picks do we offer in exchange for Myles Turner, NO VOTING IF YOURE A LURKER

Clay, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 02:54 (one year ago) link

lol i don't know how many lurkers ILH has but they would fuck us for sure

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 02:58 (one year ago) link

i mean maybe they would support solid basketball decisionmaking but i don't know if that's what i would do, i might just go or chaos

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 03:03 (one year ago) link

there are no ilh lurkers, just ilh benchwarmers who are waiting for one of us to get injured for more posting time

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 03:05 (one year ago) link

its not gonna work champs, we're all in peak posting condition and will be for decades

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 03:06 (one year ago) link

posting is one of like 4 things i know how to do

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 03:07 (one year ago) link

i've heard life after posting can lead to depression and financial ruin

Clay, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 03:15 (one year ago) link

Yah it would have to be og ilh folks and frequent posters, and we’d have to move it to 77 lol

Spottie, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 03:19 (one year ago) link

i've heard life after posting can lead to depression and financial ruin

― Clay, Tuesday, July 12, 2022 10:15 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

thats just on crypto subreddit, posting to ilh makes your breath fresh and adds 10% damage to your melee attacks

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 03:23 (one year ago) link

Lollll

Spottie, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 03:28 (one year ago) link

i, an ilh lurker, will def vote chaos and fuck up the ilh ownership consortium.

sknybrg, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 04:26 (one year ago) link

ive always said what we need is collective ownership and a byzantine set of bylaws to prevent hostile takeovers by rogue elements, you know, like a family

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 04:29 (one year ago) link

Should be 50-50 ownership group of J0rdan S. and Matt Armstrong.

Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 12:21 (one year ago) link

A team of rivals

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 12:40 (one year ago) link

Goran Dragic on playing with KD and Kyrie:

“It was quite hard, because it wasn’t about the team, but more about individual performances.”

(via @SiolSPORTAL) pic.twitter.com/a0kfbPxIXn

— Legion Hoops (@LegionHoops) July 13, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

seems chill

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

just imagining in my minds eye what the vibes were like when harden was a part of that too

Spottie, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

just three cool normal guys playing basketball

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

surely with ben simmons in the mix all vibe issues will resolve

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

Brian Windhorst says ‘legitimate sources’ are telling him that the Warriors potentially reacquiring Kevin Durant is a ‘discussion’: https://t.co/MjC7V4yIty

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) July 13, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

ugh please no.

DJI, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link

would be kind of funny if this is how they backtracked on not trading any of those draft picks for vets, but somehow after they won a chip, many weird symmetries at work, best to consult the tarot

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link

they only have two firsts they can trade which makes it tough

wiggins moody and two firsts idk

wiggins moody wiseman and two first maybe

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 23:16 (one year ago) link

I'm really happy for Wiggs but that situation was so specific and perfect for him, plus he'd have expectations on him again

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 July 2022 03:15 (one year ago) link

RFA center Deandre Ayton has agreed to a four-year, $133M maximum offer sheet with the Indiana Pacers, his agents Nima Namakian (Innovate Sports) and Bill Duffy (BDA Sports + WME Sports) tell ESPN. The Phoenix Suns have 48 hours to match the largest offer sheet in NBA history.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 14, 2022



myles turner come on down

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 July 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

comes out to about 31 per huh. man

Spottie, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

do the suns get any compensation if they fail to match?

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

suns losing their #1 pick for nothing would be malpractice

Spottie, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

mookie — no

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

they kinda have to match this

Spottie, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

or work out a sign and trade

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

Reading the article from Woj, it reads like Ayton hasn't actually signed the offer sheet yet.

So, this could be the Pacers saying "Let's work a sign-and-trade, or we've got things lined up to do an offer sheet."

This is a fun one to watch play out! https://t.co/yUdJywbIub

— Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) July 14, 2022

suns have to do a S&T here, at least myles turner keeps them at a pretty similar level of competitiveness

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

Phoenix has until Saturday night at 11:59PM ET. to match the largest offer sheet in NBA history.

The contract is binding and a sign-and-trade cannot be completed.

If Phoenix matches, Ayton has veto power on any trade after Jan. 15. He cannot be traded to Indiana. https://t.co/46cLEBbEyw

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) July 14, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

Because the clock to match doesn’t start until midnight, both sides still have time work out a sign-and-trade before the offer sheet is officially signed. https://t.co/fFKwY4FAuG

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) July 14, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

it’s gonna be a S&T it makes too much sense. guess it just depends on what the compensation besides turner is

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

Woj just said on ESPN that Ayton hasn't signed the offer sheet yet but is expected to at some point today, and he specifically said there's still time to work out a sign-and-trade.

If the Suns let him walk for nothing they are an unserious franchise and should be relegated.

— sreekar (@sreekyshooter) July 14, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

whats in it for indy to do a sign and trade do the suns have to send a pick to downgrade

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

So far, Suns haven't shown an interest in negotiating a sign-and-trade on Ayton with the Pacers, but the expectation remains that Phoenix will match the record-$133M offer sheet once it's signed, sources tell ESPN. Suns could trade Ayton as soon as Jan. 15 once sheet is matched.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 14, 2022

lmao suns

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

okie dokie

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

If Suns match, Ayton has veto power on a trade for a full year.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 14, 2022



this would just be a monumentally stupid turn of events for them lol

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

maybe they wanted to keep him all along but were just seeing if they could do it for cheaper

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

if theres no s&t i guess this is 2nd best?

Spottie, Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link

yeah at least they dont have to give him the designated rookie max or whatever its called

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

idk i feel like we were all saying a year ago or whatever that he was 100% gonna get a max offer sheet they should've just saved themselves the trouble and done it up front

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link

you’d think they’d worry ayton could figure out their scheme and become embittered but he’s so busy with video games

Clay, Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link

idk i feel like we were all saying a year ago or whatever that he was 100% gonna get a max offer sheet they should've just saved themselves the trouble and done it up front

― J0rdan S., Thursday, July 14, 2022 4:03 PM (thirty-nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

well yeah

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

you’d think they’d worry ayton could figure out their scheme and become embittered but he’s so busy with video games

― Clay, Thursday, July 14, 2022 4:03 PM (one second ago)

yeah maybe he doesn't even realize he signed w/ the IRL indiana pacers, i hope this is clear to him

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

maybe the no trade in the first year thing is good for them bcuz he can at least come in next year knowing they're not gonna pull the rug out from under him suddenly. but phoenix has to be thrown in the bad vibes camp at this point

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link

video games!

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

--deandre ayton

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

suns can keep him

micah, Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

From what I’ve heard Kyrie for Kyle Lowry is not out of the question. https://t.co/5SEb9kXTAK

— Frank Isola (@TheFrankIsola) July 14, 2022

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

this almost feels like a no brainer for the heat if they could do it with one pick & a role player or something

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

lmao does pat think he can fix kyrie

Clay, Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

the heat with their work ethic scrappy mentality heat culture and what not are the perfect team for kyrie... to poop on

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link

it would be his greatest work, his crowning achievement

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

haha man for real this would thee ultimate test of heat culture

Spottie, Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

i want lakers tho the streets crave it

Spottie, Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

udonis in a locked room with kyrie, only one mentality walks out

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

love to lay completely nude on a Florida beach next to a roaring campfire fed with sage while loudly proclaiming that the jwst images just don’t give me the feels

Clay, Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

if the heat could get out from under the last year of lowry’s contract and turn it into one season of contract year kyrie i would be down. not even sure lowry is more reliable than kyrie at this point, tho for different reasons

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 July 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

suns matched via shams

Spottie, Friday, 15 July 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

The Phoenix Suns have matched the Indiana Pacers’ four-year, $133 million maximum offer sheet on Deandre Ayton, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Ayton stays in Phoenix.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 15, 2022



yep

J0rdan S., Friday, 15 July 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

so again we’re left to wonder…… what was the point of all this?

J0rdan S., Friday, 15 July 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

if they were just gonna pay him this much or near this much it doenst make sense to burn a whole season and/or burn the bridge with the player. amateur hour over here in the valley.

Spottie, Friday, 15 July 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

they continue to give the impression that they have no idea what they’re doing.

call all destroyer, Friday, 15 July 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

i mean that recent profile of their front office gave me the impression that this is the alternative medicine/essential oils version of franchise management so cheers to discovering truth and wellness in the valley of life

Clay, Friday, 15 July 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

The Suns made clear throughout free agency that the franchise intended to bring Ayton back – and were committed to spend in order to continue competing for a title around All-NBA star Devin Booker, Chris Paul and Ayton. Phoenix now goes approximately $15M into the tax. https://t.co/PCVHYtk6OH

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 15, 2022

lol did they now

call all destroyer, Friday, 15 July 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

normal stuff

lag∞n, Friday, 15 July 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link

if they had just maxxed him out last year then they would be able to trade him now perhaps for kevin durant

lag∞n, Friday, 15 July 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link

yeah somebody was always going to max him on an offer sheet, obviously there are things about him that make that max a little scary but the suns know more about him than anyone and seem to have kind of played themselves.

call all destroyer, Friday, 15 July 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link

it never made any sense. this was always going to be the outcome.

J0rdan S., Friday, 15 July 2022 01:59 (one year ago) link

Wolves just signed Austin Rivers to a one year minimum

this deal when it finally gets done is going to be ludicrous

REPORT: The Jazz-Knicks deal was “close” on Tuesday night, but the Knicks ended up declining.

The Jazz reportedly wanted Immanuel Quickley, Obi Toppin, Quentin Grimes, Miles McBride, and 6 1st-round picks. 🤯🤯🤯

(via @tjonesonthenba) pic.twitter.com/KxUOdLfsZx

— Legion Hoops (@LegionHoops) July 15, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 15 July 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

all so the mitchell brunson backcourt can give up one million points a game

lag∞n, Friday, 15 July 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link

Yah that is not a great pairing

Spottie, Friday, 15 July 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

plus barrett playing the 3 and randle at the 4? lol. prob one of the worst defensive line ups you could come up with on paper for a team aspiring to be good

J0rdan S., Friday, 15 July 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

don't do it! reconsider! read some liter-ature on the subject!

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 July 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

the devil on my shoulder is saying "thibs won't play the young guys anyway"

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 July 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

smh

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 July 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

none of their young guys will prob ever make an all star game, clinging to quickley and quentin grimes etc has strong “this franchise never has good young players so we’re going to overvalue any draft pick with more than a pulse” vibes to me. maybe there’s an opportunity cost aspect of throwing them all in one trade & not being able to flip them later but if the jazz want those guys i’d prob just throw them in and then try and talk them down on the picks

J0rdan S., Friday, 15 July 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link

jazz are prob asking for those guys trying to get more picks

lag∞n, Friday, 15 July 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

that is fair, just feels to me that if you're gonna sacrifice young and cheap depth and a buttload of future picks you should do it for a player who is better than donovan mitchell.

the market is the market, i guess

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 July 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

not that mitchell isn't good or anything, but having the smallest backcourt in the nba in a division with the celtics and raptors is not gonna work imo

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 July 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

you’re bringing logic to a multi year pursuit of a star by the knicks front office!

J0rdan S., Friday, 15 July 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 15 July 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

that lineup is hilarious i need to see it now. jazz gonna come out of the rudy/dono pairing with like 14 picks and prospects. doing it right. they can also flip like 6 other rotation guys for picks or whatever at the deadline (bojan, conley, beasley, gay, clarkson, pat bev)

Spottie, Friday, 15 July 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

Danny likes picks.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 15 July 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

they should try to get every pick

ciderpress, Friday, 15 July 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

Brian Windhorst:

“The executives are going on vacation… At this point, the Nets’ preferred situation is for Kevin Durant to stay with them. There is no trade that they’ve got that they like.”

(via @ESPNNBA) pic.twitter.com/sLlSFfMPnl

— Legion Hoops (@LegionHoops) July 15, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 15 July 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

KD: I'd like to be traded.

Nets FO: *shrug emoji*

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 15 July 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link

kd is gonna trade himself via recess appointment

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 July 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link

keeping them both is the right play imo. they have a ton of talent between KD/kyrie/simmons that they’re virtually assured of not being able to replicate in the next 5 years via trades. KD will never hold out. just run it back

k3vin k., Friday, 15 July 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

Kuminga looks like a much more natural player nowadays

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 16 July 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link

I was listening to the zach Lowe podcast today and he was discussing grimes, toppin, 4 firsts and 3 swaps as a sort of median proposal, which is just hard for me to fathom

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 16 July 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link

I think the knicks are going to “set the market” so to speak

k3vin k., Saturday, 16 July 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link

compared to the gobert trade that would be pretty light!

J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 July 2022 00:57 (one year ago) link

The Gobert trade should have been voided

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 16 July 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

that is true

J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 July 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

it’s clearly massively fucking up the trade market

J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 July 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

tradeflation, thanks biden

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 16 July 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link

some wild trades this summer def and theres prob going to be some more, will be funny when kyrie gets moved for two firsts after all that

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 July 2022 02:06 (one year ago) link

kyrie has a lo-o-o-ng history for teams to look at now. the warts stand out so far that you can't miss them.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 16 July 2022 03:18 (one year ago) link

4/80 keldon Johnson extension

Spottie, Saturday, 16 July 2022 04:01 (one year ago) link

Russ fired his agent

What a statement from Russell Westbrook’s now former agenthttps://t.co/6eaq4Hem5h pic.twitter.com/ShSZ7q5SaD

— Michael Corvo (@michaelcorvoNBA) July 16, 2022

Spottie, Saturday, 16 July 2022 04:03 (one year ago) link

it's late on the east coast but i'm having some trouble parsing that?

good for keldon johnson though, nice to see that guy get paid.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 16 July 2022 04:08 (one year ago) link

BIG BODYYYYYYYY

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 16 July 2022 04:10 (one year ago) link

Cad my take is that his agent has probably been telling him he’s gotta suck it up and buy into a new role cos the market is telling him he’s done. And his best shot to rehab is stay w the lakers and accept a new role vs getting traded and bought out and be on his 5th team in 5 years and have the stain of being bought out. Russ prob too prideful to accept that and would rather get traded and play for a crap team putting up empty stats.

Spottie, Saturday, 16 July 2022 04:47 (one year ago) link

*4 not 5

Spottie, Saturday, 16 July 2022 04:48 (one year ago) link

Russs last two likes apparently

pic.twitter.com/mRJi4GYWVn

— 🐐. (@VARbasten) July 16, 2022

Spottie, Saturday, 16 July 2022 04:51 (one year ago) link

Cad my take is that his agent has probably been telling him he’s gotta suck it up and buy into a new role cos the market is telling him he’s done. And his best shot to rehab is stay w the lakers and accept a new role vs getting traded and bought out and be on his 5th team in 5 years and have the stain of being bought out. Russ prob too prideful to accept that and would rather get traded and play for a crap team putting up empty stats.

The confusing part is the agent says the new role that Westbrook must embrace is a "starting role" that has been offered him?

doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Saturday, 16 July 2022 11:34 (one year ago) link

he prob just didnt want to be rude and say play defense do normal basketball things

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 July 2022 12:05 (one year ago) link

Love to not be rude while airing my ex-clients dirty laundry (not that he's wrong).

doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Saturday, 16 July 2022 12:28 (one year ago) link

its a fine line

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 July 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link

i guess it is CYA for the agent but it’s still a very strange public statement.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 16 July 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link

❤️ drunk ally Charles

“If you’re gay or transgender, I love you. And if anyone gives you any shit, tell em Charles says f*ck you!” - Charles Barkley pic.twitter.com/c1tUbvX5ga

— Ned Balme (@NedBalmeLives) July 15, 2022

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

good stuff chuck

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

all he has to do is apologize for making fun of fat women and he's uncanceled

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

Apparently lebron, Derozan and Kyrie are playing on the same team in the drew league starting in about 15 minutes. NBA app has a link under games.

Spottie, Saturday, 16 July 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link

Lol can’t even be bothered to tryout for lebron

Drew League Commissioner Dino Smiley on Kyrie Irving's no-show today: "I don’t know. They were pretty sure he was coming. But you know how Kyrie is. I guess he changed his mind in the middle of it." Dino said there is a possibility that Kyrie plays in a game on Sunday.

— Mark Medina (@MarkG_Medina) July 17, 2022

Spottie, Sunday, 17 July 2022 02:32 (one year ago) link

i'm dying at these sincere attempts to cover the drew league

call all destroyer, Sunday, 17 July 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link

The broadcast was hilariously bad. Made me appreciate the nba product more

Spottie, Sunday, 17 July 2022 03:05 (one year ago) link

Los Angeles Lakers’ Big 3 of LeBron James, Anthony Davis and Russell Westbrook huddled for a phone conversation to confirm their commitment to each other through the uncertainty, league sources told @YahooSports: https://t.co/7a4Ykdgo6V

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) July 18, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 18 July 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link

max contract recognize max contract

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 18 July 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

"guess we gotta make this work so we should probably... communicate"

Spottie, Monday, 18 July 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link

They should rent a banana boat together

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Monday, 18 July 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

yesss

Spottie, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

"There is a school of thought speaking to people around the league that they think the Kevin Durant trade request wasn't actually about him getting out of Brooklyn, it was about getting Kyrie Irving out of Brooklyn."

ESPN's Dave McMenamin on The Lowe Post. pic.twitter.com/Ae4WClbcOv

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) July 19, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

conspiracy theory based on nothing: nets will not trade kd at all, kd only publicized the trade demand so he could remain in kyrie's good graces but he's secretly relieved to be rid of kyrie

― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, July 12, 2022 5:53 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link

didn’t he specifically mention the nets “treatment” of kyrie as the reason he wanted to be traded?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 July 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

yeah doesnt really make sense feel like this is a psyop by the nets

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

some arguing about durant to new orleans on espn today...is there anything to that? to me, it would seem weird to blow it up without ever having seen how it works with a healthy zion

espn is bored

Spottie, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

july-august is sports purgatory

Spottie, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

the mlb all-star break even more so

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

nola is maybe the team best equipped to make a deal for kd but then the timeline with all their young players just doesnt make sense and they prob wouldnt be a contender anyway

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

they should pretend theyre going to do it tho, to spice things up

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

espn is bored

― Spottie, Tuesday, July 19, 2022 3:55 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ha yeah i spose

I’m bored too someone should do a big trade

Clay, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link

zach lowe thinks the knicks have the best chance, who knows?

for the drama that would be pretty fun

that would hilarious

Spottie, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

for KD? i don't think so... nobody thinks the nets would trade KD to the knicks under any circumstances. he was prob talking about mitchell

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 July 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah u know what he was sorry, podcast brain comes for us all

nola is maybe the team best equipped to make a deal for kd but then the timeline with all their young players just doesnt make sense and they prob wouldnt be a contender anyway

― lag∞n, Tuesday, July 19, 2022 4:00 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk imo if you're the pelicans, your title window does not exist and has historically never existed, they have a shitload of picks for just this kind of scenario. i think they should go for it with ingram, cap filler, and like 4 or 5 picks and still have tons of draft capital while opening up a two year window.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

the question is if KD is really that player anymore. i tend to agree w/ the everyone who still thinks he's a top 3 player but that boston series has to be a tad concerning. but if you're trading that much stuff to give yourself a two year window you better be 100% sure the guy is still at that level

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 July 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link

the question isnt "is kd that guy?" its "will brandon ingram (or any of these picks) ever be that guy?"

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 23:16 (one year ago) link

it's kinda two questions but again if you're giving that much up for KD you can't have him putting up another playoff series where he shoots 40% from the field. i feel like it was just a really bad match up and he'll be a beast again in the playoffs but i would maybe be slightly worried

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 July 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link

its not a surefire trade to be sure, but if it was then KD would not be available at all

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

Dubs getting JaMychal Green for a back-up big seems like a low-key valuable move.

that's not my post, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link

hes a quality rotation player for sure

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link

he'll fill the bjelica role nicely

Spottie, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

imo kd is not that guy anymore celtics just exposed him hes basically been exclusively taking elbow jumpers since he he blew up his achilles

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link

i mean he averaged 34 in the offs in 2021, i think its too soon to say hes cooked bc the c's matched up so well on him

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

no its true actually

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

i mean hes still good but i would not break the bank

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

he's no rudy gobert

Clay, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link

when youre talking about the stifle tower youre talking about a guy you empty the chamber for

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

It’s true he’s better than Kd cos he only takes the most effective shot in basketball aka the slamma jamma

Spottie, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

Report: Danny Ainge and the Utah Jazz are seeking seven to eight first round picks for Donovan Mitchell, per @TheSteinLine

😳😳 pic.twitter.com/sZLFg24tdH

— Top Ball Coverage (@TopBallCoverage) July 20, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

they counted how many picks the knicks have

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link

lol

ciderpress, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

has anyone been traded for more than 4 first round picks before?

ciderpress, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link

gobert might have permanently broken the trade market

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 21:12 (one year ago) link

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/29/Count_von_Count_kneeling.png

this many more picks than Rudy! ah hah ha ha

Clay, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 21:17 (one year ago) link

Free agent star James Harden and the Philadelphia 76ers have reached an agreement on a two-year, $68 million deal with a player option, league sources tell @YahooSports.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) July 20, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

Ainge walks around like Anton Chigurh but with an 11-sided die rolling for picks

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 23:47 (one year ago) link

holy shit people are bored. Josh Minott snubbed by Summer League! I hope Adam Silver has a press conference to address this.

https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2022/07/18/timberwolves-josh-minott/amp/

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 July 2022 03:48 (one year ago) link

The inflation from Gobert trade has got to cool off sooner than later, right? If asking prices for players oriented around that price end up stifling the trade market, the askers are going to have to start lowering their prices right? Unless it's all a game of chicken and some idiot GM caves.

Stone Cold Steve Ostinato (Leee), Thursday, 21 July 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

it will cool off but it might take time. there was a point in time where no one thought a team would ever give up something like the nets package for pierce/garnett again. these things always cycle.

call all destroyer, Friday, 22 July 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link

i think its good that teams are giving up a lot for stars now theyre worth it you just have to make sure theyre actual stars

lag∞n, Friday, 22 July 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link

arguably the current inflation started with anthony davis to the lakers then you had paul george right after which was crazy

lag∞n, Friday, 22 July 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

gobert is the pinnacle tho that shits folkloric

lag∞n, Friday, 22 July 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link

yeah the davis deal restarted this whole cycle

call all destroyer, Friday, 22 July 2022 01:34 (one year ago) link

if you've got a big older star you're never going to win with now is really the time to trade him for peak assets, i am not talking about any specific teams local to me don't get me wrong about this

Clay, Friday, 22 July 2022 01:40 (one year ago) link

much for jody allen to think about in five years

lag∞n, Friday, 22 July 2022 01:46 (one year ago) link

dame in 5 years will get a highly protected 1RP, a $500 nike gift card, and two non-adjacent tickets to the next lcd soundsystem reunion show

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 22 July 2022 02:06 (one year ago) link

no please why

Sources: The Boston Celtics have offered a Jaylen Brown package to the Nets for Kevin Durant, which Brooklyn turned down and countered.

Full details on a potential Celtics-Nets mega-deal to be had, latest on Donovan Mitchell and more at the Inside Pass: https://t.co/Gkyfkhg5A1

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 25, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 11:40 (one year ago) link

prob just some conversation they were never close on that the nets are leaking to try to juice the offers

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 13:14 (one year ago) link

shams would never let himself be used in such an underhanded fashion

mookieproof, Monday, 25 July 2022 13:21 (one year ago) link

As of right now, the Celtics have emerged as a serious possibility as a landing spot for Durant.

...

No deal for Durant is imminent

lol

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 13:24 (one year ago) link

as if brooklyn would turn down a package led by jaylen brown for kd lol

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 July 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

i wonder jb white and one pick isnt exactly a blockbuster, nets prob think they can do better

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

shams

The Celtics offered Brown, guard Derrick White and a draft pick to the Nets for Durant, sources said. The proposal was rejected, and Brooklyn has asked Boston — in any proposal — to include Brown, Defensive Player of the Year Marcus Smart, draft picks and potentially one more rotation player, those sources added.

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

celtics would prob win it all if they did their trade but i still dont want them to

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

wow rude

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 25 July 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

there’s obviously something funky going on here, woj posted his story at like 2 am last night so he must’ve gotten word that shams had gotten leaked the same info. the woj story was absolutely nothing — the celtics are talking to the nets but aren’t closer to a deal than any other team. ok?

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/iEN7QDW.png

xp

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

if jaylen brown was actually on the table for KD that trade would already be done imo. there’s no way the nets are doing better than that if what they want back is an established player

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

your list is a giant bag of cocaine??

xp

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 25 July 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

thats right buddy

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

i mean thats reasonable but imo theres good chance the nets are holding out for a mega haul here, and possibly dont really care if they make a trade at all

xp jordan

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

the crazy thing is if the nets could get jaylen for KD they should do it in a heartbeat. they aren’t winning the title with him, the dream is over, if you can get a player of jaylen’s caliber plus whatever else would be in the deal for him that would be a pretty amazing recovery

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

it’s more interesting to think about from boston’s side really

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

its funny how the nets are the most obvious candidate for rebuilding except they cant cause they traded all their picks

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link

owners need to extend their rule so that you cant trade pick swaps on off years

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

jaylen and simmons would actually be something to build off of. i would feel bad for jaylen but the nets could actually reload without having to stink for 3-5 years again

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

i’d be curious how many pick swaps have actually ended up coming to fruition

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

well the pick swaps existence does dissuade it from happening

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

celtics got tatum with a nets swap

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

it’s more interesting to think about from boston’s side really

Same with the Warriors reunion rumors -- the proverbial "bird in the hand" dilemma.

Judd Apatosaurus (Leee), Monday, 25 July 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

maybe i’m just too shook by KD’s performance in the nets series but i’m not convinced swapping jaylen for him meaningfully increases their title odds at the cost of the rest of jaylen’s career

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link

jaylen has two years left on his deal and if they feel like he might be a risk to leave then flipping him for KD would be entirely defensible… i wonder if they’ve had any convos with his agent about an extension

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

thats def an issue cause he can get a bigger deal if he becomes a free agent than if he extends is my understanding which obvs makes the extension much less likely

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

im sure they would extend him for the max right now if they could

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

i agree... it looks like they can extend him oct 1?

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

Celtics should just run it back

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 25 July 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

yeah making a panic move would be very un-cleticsy here i think. adding brogdon seems like the right move and everyone else on that team should be getting better next season outside of horford/gazelle

Spottie, Monday, 25 July 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

brogdons a great add for sure i like the team and think they should run it back, pick up whatever bench guy they need at the deadline, now that theyve proven they can make a deep run they really need to limit starters regular season minutes, they were so fucking cashed by the finals

lag∞n, Monday, 25 July 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

I think the Celtics should absolutely trade Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, and unnamed rotation player for Kevin Durant. This is a great idea. Please do this Brad. Please. The world needs to see this Tatum, Durant, and ? basketball team.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 25 July 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link

they have brogdon! and horf! and rob williams! its a deep team!

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 25 July 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link

I need to see this OKC but way worse basketball team fight for the playoffs.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 25 July 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link

they have brogdon! and horf! and rob williams! its a deep team!

Yikes

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 25 July 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link

the celtics are definitely better than those OKC teams even without KD

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

or would be even with KD, rather? either way

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 July 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

I would much rather have White than Smart if I’m the nets

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link

hollinger: Jaylen Brown is only eligible to make $36 million in 2024-25 in an extension on his current contract, compared to the $44 million he can make as a free agent. The only way out of it, again, is if he becomes supermax eligible by making one of the three All-NBA teams this season. Otherwise, he has no rational reason to extend his deal and would become an unrestricted free agent in 2024.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

that’s very odd. possible he makes third team this year but def will be an uphill battle for him

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 July 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

feel like i should post this here, and that some of you will enjoy:

https://daily.bandcamp.com/album-of-the-day/wrecking-crew-sedale-threat-review

alpine static, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

omg that is a player i have not thought about in a lonnnnng time.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

There actually is a rational reason to extend his deal

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

its true

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

Is Jimmy wearing a wig here or what

International Jimmy living his best life in Colombia 🍸

(via @JimmyButler) pic.twitter.com/akgd1sWVqw

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) July 29, 2022

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 29 July 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

Jimmy Butler went and got some premium bundles. pic.twitter.com/GYdgKY29Xp

— . (@Nigerianscamsss) July 27, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 29 July 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

What’s Jimmy Butler looking at? pic.twitter.com/pTdY4l2ccF

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) July 29, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 29 July 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

rip ray raposa of castanets, wonderful dude, guy I took to several blazer games, and very occasional ILH poster under the name Bear, Bear, Bear :(

Clay, Saturday, 30 July 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

oh man thats awful

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 30 July 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

rest in peace ray

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 30 July 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

very sorry to hear that

call all destroyer, Saturday, 30 July 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

sorry clay :(

k3vin k., Saturday, 30 July 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

RIP

Sorry clay

Spottie, Saturday, 30 July 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

sorry to hear that clay

lag∞n, Saturday, 30 July 2022 23:04 (one year ago) link

I had one castanets song hearted in my Spotify library:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LgaaYoqYhA

May 28 and the Blazers won in OT
Carlyle agreed that the boys had played fair
clean in the paint and the calls had been square
Jason Kidd and Oden were the last ones there when the cameras had gone

Spottie, Saturday, 30 July 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link

ray was one of the purest blazer fans out there, he really joyed in watching the game in a way that i admired and he even eased some of my cynicism about it all at times. such a massive heart!

Clay, Saturday, 30 July 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

what a lovely song. RIP

symsymsym, Saturday, 30 July 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link

RIP Ray.
Sorry for your loss, Clay. From that song it sounds like he was a real one.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Sunday, 31 July 2022 03:28 (one year ago) link

Sorry Clay, RIP Ray.

doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Sunday, 31 July 2022 12:01 (one year ago) link

An announcement… pic.twitter.com/KMJ7pG4R5Z

— TheBillRussell (@RealBillRussell) July 31, 2022

, Sunday, 31 July 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

rip big man

lag∞n, Sunday, 31 July 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

one of GOATs on and off the court. i dont think anyone will ever come close to his 11 titles.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 31 July 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

that stings. he set the standard while he played and in retirement.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 31 July 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

An absolute legend. RIP big man.

Spottie, Sunday, 31 July 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

I didn't know blocked-shots weren't officially kept track of until '73 or so. According to this, there's data on Russell for 135 games:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fRFgkADAK80/VkG0j3zRocI/AAAAAAAAHTA/swVybP9vvpE/s0-Ic42/Russell%252520blocked%252520shots%252520135g.jpg

That averages out to 8.1 per game, which, for his career, would project to ~7,800 blocked shots--more than twice as many as Olajuwon's 3,830 (#1 on the career-leaders list).

Chamberlain averaged 8.8 for 112 known games...I know it was a much smaller game when those guys started, but still.

clemenza, Sunday, 31 July 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

rest in peace, bill. hard to imagine a bigger legend of the game, even mj isn't really more important. i noticed he wasn't at the finals this year, but understandably i don't think he'd been there since 2019.

circles, Sunday, 31 July 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

Yah the last clip they showed of him after the finals looked like he was declining pretty bad

Spottie, Sunday, 31 July 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

this article from his daughter 35 years ago is incredible

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/06/14/magazine/growing-up-with-privilege-and-prejudice.html

from 1987: "The neo-conservative movement, personified by President Reagan, seems to be leading the way toward retrenchment. To me, the slogan ''Let's Make America Great Again'' is scary.

How far back do these people want to go? Moreover, if making America great again entails the perpetual existence of a poor underclass, I don't know if I want it. If it means enormous military buildup at the expense of social programs, I don't know that I'm for it."

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 31 July 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

the striking thing about russell is how he never became bitter, about anything--about how he was treated as a player, about how the game changed around him as he aged, about how his impact wasn't always fully understood. he just kept on going out there with dignity and decency till the end.

i was checking in on a boston sports forum and we've got children of old boston garden employees posting in near tears because they met him once and he made that kind of impact on them.

call all destroyer, Monday, 1 August 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/bill-russell-champion-nba-civil-rights/671010/

[b]Russell had seen Barkley on television complaining about how much he paid in taxes. Russell was displeased with Barkley’s comments.

“He called me. ‘Charles Barkley, this is Bill Russell.’ I said, ‘Oh hey, Mr. Russell,’” Barkley told me.

“He said, ‘I need you to shut the fuck up.’ I said, ‘Okay.’”

“[Russell] said, ‘Son, let me tell you something,” Barkley said. “‘You grew up poor. You went to public school, and I bet the police came to your neighborhood when somebody called the cops.’ I said, ‘Yes, Mr. Russell.’ He said, ‘Somebody was paying those people, and you didn’t have any money. I don’t ever want to see your Black ass on TV complain about taxes ever again.’ And I never did.”[/b']

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

“He said, ‘I need you to shut the fuck up.

Fucking amazing lmao

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 01:25 (one year ago) link

who else can say that and get an 'okay' response from charles

sonned by bill russell in a taxation beef

mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 01:52 (one year ago) link

lol

Spottie, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link

i don't know if it's better than the stuff that's getting published this week, but i think this frank deford feature was my first exposure to the legend of russell, and it holds up pretty well.

https://vault.si.com/vault/1999/05/10/the-ring-leader-the-greatest-team-player-of-all-time-bill-russell-was-the-hub-of-a-celtics-dynasty-that-ruled-its-sport-as-no-other-team-ever-has

it's very weird to reread something from a long time ago and realize what little parts have been stuck in my brain the whole time.

circles, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 03:41 (one year ago) link

I’ll give that a read tomorrow

Spottie, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 05:59 (one year ago) link

"Look, all I know is, the guy won two NCAA championships, 50-some college games in a row, the ['56] Olympics, then he came to Boston and won 11 championships in 13 years, and they named a f------ tunnel after Ted Williams."

love this quote

symsymsym, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 06:16 (one year ago) link

tbf williams was better than russell

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 12:18 (one year ago) link

and just FWIW many of those years the celtics won with him there were literally eight teams in the whole nba, iirc some others there were ten

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 12:21 (one year ago) link

in his final year there were 14!

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 12:58 (one year ago) link

thats a lotta teams

ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link

almost too many to count

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

i have mixed feelings about russell and his image which tbf was not totally his doing, the whole triumphalist ultimate winner thing is really unappealing to me its yankees monument park type shit making heroes and meaning out of guys who were good at ball sport is tedious and dumb IMHO and as mentioned in this case the winning part when examined is suspect, i greatly admire his participation in the civil rights movement but i do think always trying to make everything about celebrities is fundamentally a psyop, stuff like telling barkley to stfu about taxes is awesome and hilarious but most of the time when you saw him interviewed he was super serious to the point of ponderousness despite his protestations a consumer of his own mythology, also it must be said that and the evidence is available on youtube the basketball they were playing back then was just absolute garbage, guys running up and down jacking weird jumpers everyone shooting 30% while not even really being defended and russell himself on offense looked like he had never touched a basketball before its kind of shocking to see he was the dennis rodman of his day i guess, one thing to understand about that era was basketball wasnt popular, the garden wasnt even sold out during those finals, obvs the players were just working with what they had and building the foundations of the game and they should be recognized and appreciated for it, but they really were on some baseball dead ball era shit all the kinks had just not been worked out

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

It really struck me when I learned years ago that, according to his teammates, Russell would throw up before just about every game he played.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

Bones Hyland put up 62 POINTS at the @BrunsonLeague 🔥 (h/t @swishcultures_) pic.twitter.com/LyMUs6wYgb

— Overtime (@overtime) August 2, 2022

k3vin k., Tuesday, 2 August 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

the what league

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 August 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

Maryland's #1 🏀Pro-Am. Featured on @ESPN’s @TheUndefeated

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

speaking of

The NBA has started an investigation of the Knicks for alleged tampering in their signing of Jalen Brunson, per @ChrisBHaynes pic.twitter.com/xIrxO1qxHY

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) August 1, 2022

this will be the shortest investigation ever

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

when youve tampered too hard for the nba you know youve really tampered

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

lagoon i respect your hate for myth-building and sentiment. you take a very dry approach to sports fandom, provides a balance in here.

i really dont know much about bill or the early days of pro hoop so its been fun to dive into some articles/videos a bit this week to really understand his impact.

Spottie, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

500k fine for NY is my prediction.

Spottie, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

maybe a 2nd round pick

Spottie, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

lagoon i respect your hate for myth-building and sentiment. you take a very dry approach to sports fandom, provides a balance in here.

― Spottie, Tuesday, August 2, 2022 1:20 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

im def generally not a very sentimental person but particularly with sports im just like miss me with dat shit, which is not to say i dont have warm feelings for my particular fave teams and players but i just want no part of whatever industrial extruded emotion is being offered by sportswriters public relations professionals and so forth, its dumb and i hate the yankees

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

i tend to be like that too i like cool sports moments but believe they can speak for themselves and dont need to be wrapped in myth

ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

i like the game baby the game is cool i like big wins thunderous dunks and grand slams

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

also basketball doesn't truly start until they added the 3pt line, ball without hoisting is no ball at all

ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

even many of the players are interesting people that i like to know more about but the idea of heros is just something we tell children to protected them from the harsh realities of the world

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

sometimes thats good, tho mostly its not

Spottie, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

ball without hoisting is no ball at all

― ciderpress, Tuesday, August 2, 2022 11:24 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

otmfm. new board descrip

Spottie, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

crazy it took ~15 years after the line was added for the league to really embrace hoisting

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

its crazy that math didnt exist at that time in history

Spottie, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

a lot of people are against math but i say look it gave us hoisting so it cant be all bad

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

sometimes thats good, tho mostly its not

― Spottie, Tuesday, August 2, 2022 2:35 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the thing with the sport version is its mostly safe and inconsequential so who really cares, tho with russell hagiography you can see the standard denaturing of the civil right movement

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

they really were on some baseball dead ball era shit all the kinks had just not been worked out

hoops strategy responds very swiftly to rule changes. each era maximizes the skills and style that produces wins. since the mid-1950s there have been huge changes to the rules and how they are enforced.

during russell's era hoisting was not a well-rewarded skill, so it wasn't embraced. dunking was theoretically possible, but the pool of players big enough to do it was tiny. but every team was playing to win using the best means available to them and russell's teams always found a way to the top of the heap. eleven times. it was a feat. like breaking the 4 minute mile. it doesn't matter that it's been done tens of thousands of times since.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

this guy was the first to make more than 5 attempts per game, almost a decade after they added the line. the first true hoister

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/adamsmi01.html

ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

i remember michael adams he was short, salute to a true hoister

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

it was a feat. like breaking the 4 minute mile. it doesn't matter that it's been done tens of thousands of times since.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, August 2, 2022 2:53 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

dont get me wrong they were trailblazers worthy of admiration but on the other hand they would get absolutely cooked by a decent 2022 high school team

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

they would get absolutely cooked by a decent 2022 high school team

If the 2022 high schoolers were from one of those high school 'academies' that draw top talent from all over as incubators for NBA hopefuls, then there's no question they'd be bigger, stronger, faster, and more athletic than the 1960 Celtics (just to pick a year) and they'd have the benefit of the full skill set that's been invented since then, which is an enormous advantage.

However, if the 2022 high school team were playing under the 1960 rules and the refs were calling the game exactly the way refs would call it in 1960, I think the Russell Celtics would still have a damn good chance of coming out on top, because the rules and refs would keep strangling the high schoolers's game down to the 1960 way of playing.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

smh these guys need special rules to beat some kids now

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

but what if 1960 rules were seen as the norm and today's rules were the "special rules" that let some HS kids beat a bunch of professional athletes?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link

i think whoever time travels has to play by the rules where they land is the fair way to do it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

agreed. let the time travel tourney commence!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

wow those michael adams stats are bonkers. 26.5p 4r 10.5a 2.2s on 39/29 splits is insane. an 11 point jump from the season before and got to the line twice as much as well. then all his numbers came crashing back down.

Spottie, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

i assume the team lost a primary scorer and he had to be the guy for a year

ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link

its the only explanation i can think of

Spottie, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

looked at the three consecutive years and denver had weirdly high roster turnover but theres no missing big scorer in there, in fact over that three year span the second highest scorer was in the same season adams was balling out

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/1990.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/1991.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/WSB/1992.html

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link

oh wait that last season he was on the the bullets actually lol, would explain the totally different roster

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link

this is denver https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/1992.html

still no idea why he went nuts that one year tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link

found lagoons alt

Oh man, just seeing that Bill Russell died, a legend of the game who at his prime could not make a modern-day G League team.

— Matt Bruenig (@MattBruenig) August 2, 2022

k3vin k., Wednesday, 3 August 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

busted i am secretly matt bruenig

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

i mean fat lever and alex english did leave the team before the year he went nuts but they werent putting up huge numbers

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

i guess together they were like one bigtime scorer

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

congrats to lagoon on learning of your beautiful family

Clay, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

my wife the well loved leftist catholic opinion writer and our number of children are doing wonderful

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

They don't come up with nicknames like Fat Lever anymore, i.e. poetry is dead.

Judd Apatosaurus (Leee), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 03:21 (one year ago) link

looked at the three consecutive years and denver had weirdly high roster turnover but theres no missing big scorer in there, in fact over that three year span the second highest scorer was in the same season adams was balling out

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/1990.html🕸
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/1991.html🕸
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/WSB/1992.html🕸


In westhead’s first season they went nuts and played at the fastest pace we’d see for decades. The next year they dialed it down because they were losing so much.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

when the question first came up i thought i bet matt will know lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

same

Spottie, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

The proposed three-team trade scenario included Westbrook going to Utah and getting bought out. Utah would send Donovan Mitchell to the Knicks, a combination of two players, including Patrick Beverley and Jordan Clarkson, Bojan Bogdanovic or Malik Beasley to the Lakers, and the Jazz would receive significant draft pick compensation from the Knicks and Lakers. The Knicks also would’ve had to part with veteran salary filler(s), such as Derrick Rose to help make the salaries work.

Clay, Friday, 5 August 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

those are not players that will help the lakers

call all destroyer, Friday, 5 August 2022 21:38 (one year ago) link

idk they wouldn’t vault the lakers into contender status by any means but if you look at their roster any of those guys definitely would help them. bogdanovic in particular feels like someone a lot of teams should be after. whether sending out all their picks for a combo of those guys is a good idea is perhaps a different question but the lakers need all the NBA level talent they can get.

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 August 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link

dumping russ is classic addition by subtraction

Clay, Friday, 5 August 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link

minimal defense six man types are always hit or miss in the playoffs depending on the game but clarkson feels like one of the only guys from the jazz who hasn't completely shit his pants in the playoffs the last two seasons. his stats in that dallas series were actually pretty good, he gave them what you would expect from him

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 August 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link

ainge blatantly trying to construct a trade that will return the most picks ever, out there trying to set records, going for the gusto

lag∞n, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link

He's gotta feel invincible after that Gobert trade.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 5 August 2022 22:42 (one year ago) link

whether sending out all their picks for a combo of those guys is a good idea is perhaps a different question but the lakers need all the NBA level talent they can get.

― J0rdan S., Friday, August 5, 2022 5:42 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah i get this, any of those guys would play in the rotation and maybe we're past the point where the lakers have any path to contention, but i think they all would get exposed in the later rounds of the playoffs--even bojan, who is fearless and an absolute baller, might be a little too far out of his prime. i'm also comparing these guys to the turner/hield package, which has its issues but also might be pretty interesting if you squint hard enough.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 6 August 2022 00:51 (one year ago) link

any one of those guys - turner, hield, bojan, or clarkson - would replace westbrook as their third best player

micah, Saturday, 6 August 2022 06:16 (one year ago) link

Lakers really need ad to play 65+ games as a top ten players and a lot of stuff will work itself out

Spottie, Saturday, 6 August 2022 06:45 (one year ago) link

imo ad has the early big man decline bug and will never be top 10 again (if he ever was)

micah, Saturday, 6 August 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

he could have a random bounce back season but its prob the most likely outcome, idk maybe if he goes on the juice

lag∞n, Saturday, 6 August 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

AD is injured all the time and has the pain threshold of a Habsburgian dandy

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 6 August 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

also he’s someone whose jump shot was lights out in the bubble and has cratered since

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 August 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

he doesnt seem super passionate about the game of basketball either

lag∞n, Saturday, 6 August 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

or about anything really

symsymsym, Saturday, 6 August 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link

Relatable

Spottie, Saturday, 6 August 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

yeah totes

micah, Saturday, 6 August 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

In a meeting with Nets owner Joe Tsai, Kevin Durant reiterated his trade request and informed Tsai that Tsai needs to choose between Durant or the pairing of general manager Sean Marks and coach Steve Nash, sources say.

Story: https://t.co/W1voNf9MDC

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 8, 2022



prob easier to fire the GM and coach than find a good trade package for KD at this point

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 August 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

nets are in a tight spot!

lag∞n, Monday, 8 August 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

gotta think kd trying to get his gm fired will make other gms less interested in trading for him

lag∞n, Monday, 8 August 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

He chose nash lol. And what’s his beef with marks?

Spottie, Monday, 8 August 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

Which side leaked this to Shams do you think?

doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Monday, 8 August 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

KD's side, he's trying to get things moving

call all destroyer, Monday, 8 August 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

And what’s his beef with marks?

― Spottie, Monday, August 8, 2022 2:53 PM (two minutes ago)

that the franchise is a complete shitshow?

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 August 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

iirc hes mad at marks for the way he treated kyrie (did not give him a max contract)

lag∞n, Monday, 8 August 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

if all it takes to smooth everything over w/ KD is to fire steve nash (should not be an NBA head coach) and sean marks (orchestrator of a giant mess of a team) that might actually be a small price to pay

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 August 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

read some thing that tsai already thinks the players are making him look like a bitch so idk

lag∞n, Monday, 8 August 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

it's one thing for shams to tweet various abuses of the english language from his own account, but it's infecting his employer's accounts:

The Nets understand that Kevin Durant will continue to be resolute in his stance of a trade request.

Which teams are the potential destinations?@ShamsCharania has the latest intel: https://t.co/W3w4ZCqDcg pic.twitter.com/CH2tIPk2Pm

— The Athletic NBA (@TheAthleticNBA) August 8, 2022

call all destroyer, Monday, 8 August 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

god I hate KD so much

k3vin k., Monday, 8 August 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

he should retire and embrace his natural endpoint as a chump steamroller on a local sports radio show

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Monday, 8 August 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

Marks is not the gm tho that’s Kyrie and KD until now so all they can do is turn the mirror on themselves. Marks pulled off the rare 3 man super team that Kd wanted and they fumbled it. Marks should leave on his own accord and air all the laundry.

Spottie, Monday, 8 August 2022 21:43 (one year ago) link

he can't get credit for "pulling it off" but then take none of the blame for running a front office that wasn't able to keep it together for even one full season. at best he doesn't have enough clout to stand up to the superstars on his team and keep any semblance of chemistry going or ward off bad ideas, at worst he's made a number of decisions that have made the situation worse. either way he's unfit for the job he has... maybe he'd be fine running a small market team that would love to win 45 games and scrap its way into the play in tourney but that's not what the nets want to be

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 August 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link

a trio like KD, kyrie, and harden is always gonna have a certain level of sway and power w/in an organization but we've seen franchises *actually* pull this off before. pat riley had the juice. bob myers had the juice. sean marks does not. it all seems pretty cut and dried to me

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 August 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link

those three guys on the same team was just fundamentally a bad idea

lag∞n, Monday, 8 August 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link

kyrie on any team might just be a bad idea

lag∞n, Monday, 8 August 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link

both of those things may be true

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 August 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

it seems pretty clear that the thing that broke them apart was kyrie not getting vaxed and maybe that fact alone soured harden on the whole thing and there was nothing anyone could do but i also think it's obvious that the front office allowing him to come back and play road games was a catastrophic decision that created a complete circus around the team and made harden want to get out asap. they took a strong public stance against kyrie playing and then buckled under the first bit of roster strain, they were weak and short sighted and couldn't stand strong as a franchise. if you break that easy you're never gonna be able to make it work w/ multiple superstars.

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 August 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

sean marks traded a first round pick for royce o neal

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 August 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link

Our front office and coaching staff have my support. We will make decisions in the best interest of the Brooklyn Nets.

— Joe Tsai (@joetsai1999) August 8, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

well i'm convinced

Clay, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

heh

The Pro City Hoops team consisting of Julius Randle, Obi Toppin and Jalen Brunson lost by 13 tonight pic.twitter.com/yj9sh2QthU

— Rob Lopez (@r0bato) August 9, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link

the knicks

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 02:41 (one year ago) link

i dont have anything substantive to offer

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 02:41 (one year ago) link

You absolutely hate to see it

Spottie, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 03:01 (one year ago) link

That’s like 18ppl, he’ll be okay. https://t.co/TiJmFrvhSp

— A.K (@Kungu_NBA) August 9, 2022

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 03:07 (one year ago) link

You have to give KD credit for goosing a slow news cycle and giving us something to talk about.

God of Snore (2018) (Leee), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link

sean marks traded a first round pick for royce o neal


I still don’t get why they did this. I mean he’s a nice player and kind of a great fit for a theoretically healthy and available nets roster. But who thought they’d have that

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

Furthermore, the first-year head coach said one wrinkle he will implement and stick with is having the offense run through Anthony Davis, and James concurred, sources said. The team has been encouraged with Davis’ offseason progression and believe he’ll be in optimum shape to avoid serious injuries and carry a heavier load.

The team is also hopeful for a corner-3 shooting percentage bump from Russell Westbrook next season, sources said.

sickos.jpg

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 02:04 (one year ago) link

good luck los angeles lakers

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 02:15 (one year ago) link

a bunch of fun young upstarts trying to disrupt the league, kudos

Clay, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 02:18 (one year ago) link

one cannot help but wonder if the nets are actually trying to trade kevin durant

The Nets reportedly asked Boston for Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown initially when opening up trade talks centered around Kevin Durant, per @AdamHimmelsbach pic.twitter.com/e1HCIe41vP

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) August 10, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

New: Kevin Durant reportedly now has the #Celtics on his preferred list of landing spots. Examining the impact that might have on potential future trade talks between Boston and Brooklyn: https://t.co/XU9nOTPk84

— Brian Robb (@BrianTRobb) August 10, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

Robert Williams III is reportedly off limits in trade talks for Kevin Durant, per @basketballtalk pic.twitter.com/S5Wzw75XHd

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) August 11, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:33 (one year ago) link

?

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 August 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link

not coming up short again is reportedly off limits

look like Farley smoke like Marley (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 12 August 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

smh would love to see the haters get all the way to the nba finals, but they wont, hearts too full of hate

lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

Somebody ask Skip Bayless "could you do better!?"

look like Farley smoke like Marley (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 12 August 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

he can get to the nba finals of being a very normal man

lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

Is Durant really going to sit out his age 34 season? I don't see it.

doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Sunday, 14 August 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

I mean maybe he just dngaf.

doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Sunday, 14 August 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

hmm i thought he was a guy who actually liked playing basketball but maybe none of the basketball players do after all

ciderpress, Sunday, 14 August 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link

all these instances of stars bailing on their teams mid-contract in the past 5 years feels like ruinously bad optics for the league. it used to happen occasionally but not like this

ciderpress, Sunday, 14 August 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

yeah its a bummer

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 August 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

i don’t think it actually matters at all. ppl have been handwringing about stars leaving teams for 10+ years now and the league has likely never been more popular. certainly from a financial POV it’s never been in a better place

J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 August 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

it feeds the huge and ever expanding social media gossip mill, keeps the league in the news year round, makes for dramatic boxing match level narratives once the games roll around… i don’t think the league suffers from it really at all. whether it makes the sport less enjoyable to you on a personal level is a diff question and entirely fair but i think the league long ago won the “optics” battle on this stuff

J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 August 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

and tbh i’d rather see KD on an actually good team than this non competitive mess in brooklyn. the nets don’t even have fans.

if you look at donovan mitchell likely quasi forcing his way out of a soon to be irrelevant jazz team vs bradley beal clinging to the wizards so he can make a bunch of money playing for a team that will never win more than 2 playoff games… which is worse for the league, in real terms and optics? it’s not the case of the great player trying to get to a more competitive team

J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 August 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

fair enough, i don't really mind when its guys like mitchell trying to get off their original team after giving them a chance

ciderpress, Sunday, 14 August 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

I have no problem with it. Drama is messy.

doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Sunday, 14 August 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link

Current odds to win the NBA Finals @BetMGM 🏆

+450: Celtics
+600: Warriors, Bucks
+700: Clippers
+1000: Suns
+1200: 76ers
+1400: Lakers, Heat
+1600: Nets, Nuggets
+2000: Grizzlies
+2200: Mavs
+3000: Raptors
+3500: Timberwolves
+4000: Bulls, Pelicans
+5000: Hawks
+6600: Knicks pic.twitter.com/C5qrUIgBJR

— NBABet (@nbabet) August 15, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 15 August 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

dats right baby celtics #1

lag∞n, Monday, 15 August 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

the clippers are just the western conference nets i dont believe in that team/org. on paper that squad is pretty deep though, lots of lineup flexibility/switch-ability. but so much riding on older vets and/or guys coming off big injuries and/or john wall.

Spottie, Monday, 15 August 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

more like john floor

ciderpress, Monday, 15 August 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

actually i think i've used that one before sorry

ciderpress, Monday, 15 August 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

lebron to warriors confirmed
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaOX9GxUUAE64_q?format=jpg&name=small

Spottie, Monday, 15 August 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

the clippers are just the western conference nets i dont believe in that team/org. on paper that squad is pretty deep though, lots of lineup flexibility/switch-ability. but so much riding on older vets and/or guys coming off big injuries and/or john wall.


If I knew Kawhi was going to be healthy I’d pick them. Big if!

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link

even if hes healthy who knows how good hell be, hes been injured so much and is just a weird player who has for stretches looked like an alltime great and at other times more like a top 15 type guy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

unclear if he can still bring it on d never really had a passing game

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link

if you get the playoff raptors kawhi where he just goes wherever he wants with defenders bouncing off him then yeah the clips could be tough if you get the other kawhi idk ill have to think about it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

and youve got similar questions about pg too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link

Clippers are a lot like the nuggets where the scenario where everyone is healthy is a great team but no one really thinks they’ll be that healthy

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

lakers are +210 to miss the playoffs, seems like a very good bet

k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 August 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

the last time we saw kawhi in the playoffs he looked like the best player in the league again. he’s only gonna be 31 this year, not like he’s 34. but i agree there’s a lot of “nets of the west” vibes in how something always seems to be going wrong.

the thing is the west feels super wide open. it’s deep but it’s not like the east where there is two overwhelming favorites to make the finals. feels like a handful of teams could legitimately come out of the west this year. if the clippers are able to stay relatively healthy they have as good a claim as anyone. on paper anyway

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 16 August 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

i have a weird finals prediction but will think on it for another 2 months before unveiling

ciderpress, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

is this year, cider?

Spottie, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

is this *the year

Spottie, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link

based on last years WC standings:

Suns - probably around 55 wins, could sniff 60 again but the vibes will be tested early. things could go south quickly or they could regain their edge, hard to say.

Grizz - i think they take a slight step back as far as their record, Ja needs to chill or his knees wont make it. i thought their record without ja was kinda fluky? could see them dropping out of the top 4 but they could also go balls out and get to the top.

Warriors - prob still hover around 55 wins and just try to get into the playoffs healthy again. more playing time and integrating of the youngens could mean a more bumpy regular season, though. could fall out of the top 4 by record because of that. if they arent ready we could see a midseason trade?

Mavs - i dont think they got any better but luka looks in shape so if he comes into the season in game shape they could fight for a top 4 spot

Jazz - the tank is on

Nuggets - should be top 4 if everyone looks like themselves. if not, they'll be right back in this spot again.

Wolves - should be better, could get into the top 6 but will be a fight. all comes down to ant ascension.

Pels - should be better but we need to see how zion fits with what they had going to end the season. prob still a play-in team cos the defense will struggle. herb jones cant guard everyone.

Clippers - should be a top 4 but who the hell knows

spurs - the tank is on but pop will prob get them into the play-in somehow someway

lakers - lol. will miss the playoffs if they dont trade russ. will make the play-in if they do trade him.

kings - kangs

blazers - tough one! if dame is dame then i guess a play-in team? or maybe they finally trade him midseason if he gets his value back up.

thunder - weird team, should prob have the worst record in the league? will shae actually play? his timeline with this core is a little weird. he could help a lot of teams now and does he want to wait 3-5 more years while the children develop?

rockets - they need to trade KPJ. will probably wrestle with the thunder and jazz for bottom three spots

Spottie, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

i dont actually believe in the nuggets this year but i gotta do the bit

ciderpress, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

blazers - tough one! if dame is dame then i guess a play-in team? or maybe they finally trade him midseason if he gets his value back up.

the MO for the blazers during dame's all-star years has been uneven play from October until early March, then an improbable but impressive playoff push that gets them into the 4-7 seeding of the WC, then an occasional first round win. that's the best bet.

hot tip: never bet on the blazers trading dame. there's no conceivable PR story about how that will improve the team that their season-ticket holders would swallow.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

yeah i dont think it happens unless he wants it to happen.

Spottie, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

ouch and 3/4 of their national games are on nbatv haha

The Houston Rockets will be on national television four times this season, sources tell @TheAthletic:

— Nov. 12, at New Orleans (NBA TV)

— Nov. 26, vs. Oklahoma City (NBA TV)

— Jan. 11, at Sacramento (ESPN)

— Jan. 16, at Los Angeles (NBA TV)

— Kelly Iko (@KellyIkoNBA) August 16, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

we should do an ilh livechat or zoom or something to coincide with the wednesday, jan 1 rockets/kings game that is on national tv for some reason.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

*jan 11

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

lmao lets do it

Spottie, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

lol just ticking the last two boxes one time for accountability

ciderpress, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

OK hear me out yall, I think I've found a way forward for KD: trade everyone on the Nets for everyone on the Celtics. Everyone wins!

Sources: Four-time NBA champion LeBron James has agreed to a two-year, $97.1 million maximum contract extension with the Los Angeles Lakers, taking him under contract through 2024-25 season.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 17, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

smh he couldnt even get russ traded, losing his fastball

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

New this year: "NBA Rivals Week"
11 rivalry games from Jan. 24-28:
- Celtics/Heat
- Clippers/Lakers
- Nets/76ers
- Grizzlies/Warriors
- Lonzo Ball/LaMelo Ball
- Suns/Mavericks
- Timberwolves/Grizzlies
- Raptors/Warriors
- Nikola Jokic/Joel Embiid
- Knicks/Nets
- Lakers/Celtics

— Ben Golliver (@BenGolliver) August 17, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

bron contract has a player option in year 2, so basically a one year extension

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 August 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

15% trade kicker too.

Spottie, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

those one-on-one games could be interesting

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

wasn't aware any of those were rivalries besides the last one

ciderpress, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

doncic jokic rivalry happening rn

Luka Doncic for the win over Nikola Jokic… NO GOOD! 😦

Slovenia and Serbia head to OT! pic.twitter.com/TXyZct4PeJ

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) August 17, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

I wonder if that player option is Bron's escape hatch if the Lakers don't draft Bronny.

i dont actually believe in the nuggets this year but i gotta do the bit

― ciderpress, Tuesday, August 16, 2022 3:59 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yo wtf?? this is the year!

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 August 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

reducing travel is good but it makes the sched less entertaining

The NBA's new schedule has 55 baseball-style series in which the road team plays the same foe twice in a row without travel ... up from 23 last season.

Plus 33 instances on the schedule in which the road team stays in LA or New York to play both local teams on the same trip.

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) August 17, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link

i really don't like the baseball scheduling in the NBA

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 August 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

I wonder if that player option is Bron's escape hatch if the Lakers don't draft Bronny.

― It's like there's a Republican party in my mouth and everyone's indicted (Leee), Wednesday, August 17, 2022 4:36 PM (forty-seven minutes ago)

would imagine it's his escape hatch for a number of reasons incl whatever happens w/ his son

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 August 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link

I wonder if that player option is Bron's escape hatch if the Lakers don't draft Bronny.

― It's like there's a Republican party in my mouth and everyone's indicted (Leee), Wednesday, August 17, 2022 3:36 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

bronny is a 2023 recruit so he's not gonna be in the league til 2024 (after bron's current contact ends, player option doesn't enter into it)

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

Number of National TV games for each game (NOT including NBA TV games) pic.twitter.com/sWa0hmRsfl

— Krishna Narsu (@knarsu3) August 17, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link

crazy disrespect of the miami heat

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 August 2022 00:02 (one year ago) link

other than the knicks (which, lol) it’s hard to find fault with any of the teams above them

k3vin k., Thursday, 18 August 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

yeah that looks pretty normal, its not like the time they gave the pels like 25 games for zion's rookie year

ciderpress, Thursday, 18 August 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link

i really don't like the baseball scheduling in the NBA

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 17, 2022 5:24 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

based on player availability it can really fuck with seeding! it sucks.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 August 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

other than the knicks (which, lol) it’s hard to find fault with any of the teams above them


The lakers… But I guess a train wreck is still watchable

Spottie, Thursday, 18 August 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

the lakers at least have marquee players

k3vin k., Thursday, 18 August 2022 01:19 (one year ago) link

its nice they give every team at least one

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 August 2022 01:25 (one year ago) link

this will be a fun night and it's cool how they're avoiding election day

Not only are all 30 teams (15 games) playing the night before Election Night, with special messaging throughout the night to encourage voting, but games that night start at 7:00 PM ET and tip off every 15 minutes.

It's easily the most staggered schedule I've ever seen for NBA!

— Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) August 18, 2022

call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 August 2022 01:31 (one year ago) link

wonder if theyll do some novel national broadcast with switching between games and so forth

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 August 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link

that would be cool, like nfl red zone style

call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 August 2022 01:34 (one year ago) link

i hope someone says “voting is a slam dunk”

Clay, Thursday, 18 August 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

lets all get out there and assist *makes exaggerated chest pass towards camera* our country

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 August 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

zion williams [at home on couch in two leg casts]: we're all teammates...

phil jackson [zooming in from his cabin in bohemian grove]: in democracy

Clay, Thursday, 18 August 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

lol exactly

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 August 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link

2022 wnba playoffs thread

friends we are in here discussing live basketball

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 18 August 2022 02:19 (one year ago) link

zion williams [at home on couch in two leg casts]: we're all teammates...

phil jackson [zooming in from his cabin in bohemian grove]: in democracy

perfect

Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Thursday, 18 August 2022 02:31 (one year ago) link

really seems like the nets do not want to traded their guys

REPORT: The Lakers have been willing to include both of their first round-picks in a Kyrie Irving deal but the Nets are not interested.

(via @wojespn) pic.twitter.com/YyLtSBEmmf

— Legion Hoops (@LegionHoops) August 18, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 August 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

seems pretty crazy

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 August 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

idk i can kind of see it they want to give the team a shot, theyre pretty fucked otherwise, and theyre prob fucked anyway

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 August 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

i bet they end up taking that deal, i think it will be there for a while. seems like a play to set the baseline and to see if anyone else comes in higher.

Spottie, Thursday, 18 August 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

maybe they are also trying to include russell westbrook in the deal

ciderpress, Thursday, 18 August 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

maybe the lakers are i mean. hence the nets refusal

ciderpress, Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

they kind of have to to make the salaries match

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link

even given everything, if i could get kyrie for something close to two first round picks when rudy gobert and donvan mitchell are going for four/five picks and 19 swaps and harden went for two picks, two role players and a multi time all star, i think i would be pretty happy about it?

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

were i a gm i would not trade for him but the appeal is certainly obvious

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

if i were a gm i would probably build a team like the pacers and lose in the first round every year. not what i'm going for but what would happen

ciderpress, Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link

i would so many blockbuster trades and then get fired

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

were i a gm i would not trade for him but the appeal is certainly obvious


it doesn’t make sense for most teams but for teams like the lakers, heat, mavs who are trying to win this year and need roster upgrades i do think the risk might be worth it at that price in this market. i also think you’re prob gonna get a motivated contract year kyrie which should mitigate some of the issues from previous seasons.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

for sure worth it for the lakers. a long distant second for the heat and not worth it for any other team.

Spottie, Thursday, 18 August 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link

I still totally understand the nets position of wanting to wait this out and try to run it back. they built this team expecting high upside/high variance, the dice didn’t roll their way last year but considering the chances they get equivalent talent back are pretty much zero, to me it makes perfect sense to just roll the dice again and hope things break their way. if KD is really going to sit out his age 34 season…well I’ll believe it when I see it

k3vin k., Thursday, 18 August 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

i am sympathetic to players wanting out of bad situations, but rather less so to KD, who -- correct me if i'm wrong -- more or less engineered his entire situation?

also don't know anything particular about joe tsai and his vision for the nets but i can easily imagine a billionaire in this position choosing to absolutely fuck KD over in any way possible

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 August 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link

would be pretty hilarious if he just made him play out his full contract.

Spottie, Thursday, 18 August 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

I want Simmons to have to deal with a disgruntled Durant.

Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Thursday, 18 August 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

would be pretty hilarious if he just made him play out his full contract.

― Spottie, Friday, 19 August 2022 8:59 AM 

yeah that would be amazing

micah, Thursday, 18 August 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/WCCdq74.jpg

not to sidetrack too much but i was at a bar in north portland the other day, i believe the same one i had a couple beers at with lag∞n a couple years ago, and i ended up at a table with this etched into it, figured i'd take a snap for frogbs

Clay, Thursday, 18 August 2022 23:54 (one year ago) link

lol

Spottie, Friday, 19 August 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link

nice

lag∞n, Friday, 19 August 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

wow I appreciate that, much love to Portland

frogbs, Friday, 19 August 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link

check out the florida room if you're ever in town man, your guys are represented there!

Clay, Friday, 19 August 2022 02:46 (one year ago) link

oh I'd love to

frogbs, Friday, 19 August 2022 03:23 (one year ago) link

Brandon ingrams new look for 2023 🔥🔥 pic.twitter.com/3f0IiwGp5E

— $ (@LeBIKUZO) August 19, 2022

Spottie, Saturday, 20 August 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

excellent, makes him look 20 years older

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 20 August 2022 00:32 (one year ago) link

a look we should all consider for 2023

Clay, Saturday, 20 August 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

My quarantine look wasn’t far off really

Spottie, Saturday, 20 August 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

good look

micah, Saturday, 20 August 2022 02:37 (one year ago) link

he looks like javale

k3vin k., Saturday, 20 August 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

everyones talking about chet rolled his ankle here but lebrons old

Chet’s ankle gone after defending a Bron layup 1 minute into the game… pic.twitter.com/8Lk5St12rD

— Steven Adams Stats (@funakistats) August 21, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 21 August 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

Apparently the floors were wet so everyone was just trying not to get injured? They had to call the game early or something

Spottie, Sunday, 21 August 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

Udonis Haslem announces at his youth camp that he will sign a new deal with the Miami Heat and return for the 20th season of his NBA career.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 21, 2022

Spottie, Sunday, 21 August 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link

xp Narrator: although in reality his career as an NBA player had ended years ago.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 21 August 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

idk they’re light at the 4. he may play a bit this year!

call all destroyer, Sunday, 21 August 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

it’s good to use a roster spot for an assistant coach, lightyears ahead

k3vin k., Sunday, 21 August 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link

the deal they made with him not only paid off on its own but they can use it as proof to any future players they might want to do some off the books business with

lag∞n, Sunday, 21 August 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

it is both unethical and moral, hats off

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 22 August 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

it’s good to use a roster spot for an assistant coach, lightyears ahead

― k3vin k., Sunday, August 21, 2022 7:49 PM (eight minutes ago)

yeah hopefully the heat can figure out how to manage the back end of their roster one of these days :[

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

maybe they could try giving bol bol a multi year deal

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

I cannot recommend it!

k3vin k., Monday, 22 August 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

The Heat finally picked a foreign player so maybe they will stop doing asinine things like keeping Haslem on the roster soon yeah

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 22 August 2022 03:22 (one year ago) link

as heat fans we can only hope that one day pat riley will be able to channel the wisdom of matt armstrong

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2022 04:42 (one year ago) link

But he is doing that. He finally drafted a foreign player. Remember when you defended him not doing that for some reason

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 22 August 2022 05:58 (one year ago) link

Pat Riley has conceded that this was a bad idea, something which speaks to his character and I admire it.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 22 August 2022 06:04 (one year ago) link

cant hold ol benny down

🚨 Ben Simmons is expected to be ready for Nets training camp in late September, per @ShamsCharania.

Simmons has been cleared for 3-on-3 basketball activities following back surgery in May. He's also on track to be cleared for full 5-on-5 activities in the coming weeks. pic.twitter.com/0BVroTZrOP

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) August 22, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 22 August 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link

Let me know when he's cleared to shoot 50% from FT.

Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Monday, 22 August 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link

not even cleared for 5x5 yet lol

Spottie, Monday, 22 August 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

bane is off limits for kd? lol some of these teams are delusional

The Grizzlies have five first-round picks to theoretically utilize in a Kevin Durant trade, but sources say that they will not make Jaren Jackson Jr. or Desmond Bane available. More details: https://t.co/v0E9k9pA4s https://t.co/rqj9nZaxwI

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 22, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 22 August 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

everyones trying to get a nice deal on kd

lag∞n, Monday, 22 August 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

i think stuff like "bane is off limits" is just an indication of how far away any of these deals are from actually being completed. it seems like teams often start from places of impossibility -- i.e. the nets allegedly asking for both tatum *and* brown -- before meeting in the middle. my guess would be that this "news" is indicative only of things leaking early in the process. i think if the grizz and nets hammered out 90% of a deal and bane was the sticking point, bane would end up on the nets.

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

I almost wonder if the owners/GMs are colluding here. I know that KD has said stuff that makes him feel radioactive, but in other seasons you'd have at least one team stupid/desperate enough to jump at the chance to trade for him, 34-year-old on a 4-year day be damned.

day = deal

generally for a player of KD’s caliber, the length of his contract would be a plus, but in his case it has got to be a turnoff for a lot of teams. he’s 34 with an injury history and has now proven himself to be the kind of guy who requests trades a lot

k3vin k., Monday, 22 August 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

there's just not that many stupid front offices anymore... also the scrutiny/coverage of transactions and the post-moneyball understanding of things like value vs salary, contract length, aging curves among fans is in a totally different place than it was 10-20 years ago. front offices are def sensitive to this stuff & it def effects the trade market & this one in particular

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

in 1995 you'd def have teams lining up to trade their best 23 year old all star making no money for a 34 year old KD but that's never gonna happen nowadays

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

in 2022, you'd have a legion of reply guys lining up to do the same

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 August 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

it's completely understandable why a young and fun team like the grizzlies wouldn't want to fuck up the juju they had last year by trading young pieces and importing the "beat it kid" guy

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 August 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

the intractable issue is that the only teams who should be trying to trade for KD are teams who can win the title and if you're trying to win a title by trading for KD you're going to want to keep as many good players on your team as possible

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

yeah theres a bunch of things that make this deal tough but prob the biggest is the nets arent willing to do a picks centered deal, so if you have to hollow your team out to get him then theres no point in getting him

lag∞n, Monday, 22 August 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

then combine that with the fact that hes old injury prone disloyal and makes a shitload of money and it just becomes hard to put something together

lag∞n, Monday, 22 August 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

why did kd sign that long ass extension lol

Spottie, Monday, 22 August 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

yeah he should gone the bron way of signing a bunch of two year deals

lag∞n, Monday, 22 August 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

yeah that is really puzzling

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

he was so smart doing that with the dubs then decided to hitch his wagon to his mopey pal and an unproven coach/franchise... cos vibes. i guess he could also realize he is on the downslope and could have another huge injury so just took the most he could get as soon as he could get it, but that doesnt seem likely. his miscalculations are piling up.

he shoulda locked in w the dubs and gone for bill russells record.

Spottie, Monday, 22 August 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

ah ok

Steve Nash, Joe Tsai and Sean Marks met with Kevin Durant and Rich Kleiman in Los Angeles on Monday and have decided to move forward with partnership, Nets say.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 23, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link

love to move forward with partnership

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

all is good!

Spottie, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

It’s over for the League juu herd pic.twitter.com/KXMQxuiAYD

— NetsKingdom 👑🗽 (@NetsKingdomAJ) August 23, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

the roster actually makes a lot of sense... from a basketball perspective

Spottie, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

at the very least they made kd see that hes making it harder for them to trade him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link

#BLAMEKD https://t.co/BiRhf4nFyr

— Kevin Durant (@KDTrey5) August 23, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

name a bigger punk than KD

k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 August 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

as a brooklynite who has watched this dumpster fire of a relationship belch and sputter, i have mixed feelings about kd for sure but blaming him for journeyman unemployment seems a bit of a stretch for anyone but pat bev and his ongoing audition for post career talking head

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

i guess we can't quite close the book on it yet but kd completely failing to shoot his way out of town is funny

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 01:48 (one year ago) link

it is pretty good particularly since he custom made the situation

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 01:52 (one year ago) link

i'm comfortable with how this worked out (given that it is the only way it was ever going to work out and also everyone involved is at least slightly humiliated)

Clay, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link

kd completely failing to shoot his way out of town is funny

Man, that Boston d really did a number on him.

we talkin bout praxis (Leee), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 04:19 (one year ago) link

Nets have the wildest combination of talent and weird vibes maybe ever

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 04:58 (one year ago) link

pretty funny harden left and the vibes got even weirder

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 12:06 (one year ago) link

chet's already injured

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

I don’t know what to say about a pro am with nba players that had water on the court

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

lakers traded patrick beverely to utah for THT and stanley johnson, which, idk, sure

Clay, Thursday, 25 August 2022 06:31 (one year ago) link

Bev and Russ on the same team ?!??

Spottie, Thursday, 25 August 2022 06:57 (one year ago) link

oh lol oops i said that backwards didn't i, anyways yes maybe they should consider trading russell westbrook that's my two cents

Clay, Thursday, 25 August 2022 06:59 (one year ago) link

remember when tht was untouchable lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 August 2022 12:11 (one year ago) link

I’ll never forget the Talen Horton-Tucker ESPN legacy pic.twitter.com/22TDoLUryS https://t.co/imkLFKLGyE

— Justin Wills (@itsjwills) August 25, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 August 2022 13:12 (one year ago) link

Oklahoma City Thunder 7-footer Chet Holmgren will miss the 2022-2023 season with a Lisfranc injury to his right foot. Holmgren, the No. 2 pick in the 2022 NBA Draft, suffered the injury in a Pro-Am game in Seattle on Saturday.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 25, 2022

call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 August 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

I can’t imagine being the person who signed off on that pro am

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 25 August 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link

jfc

lag∞n, Thursday, 25 August 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link

mistakes were made

symsymsym, Thursday, 25 August 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

wow

k3vin k., Thursday, 25 August 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

bummer

ciderpress, Thursday, 25 August 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

gaaah can't we get anything good

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

I'm seeing the (stupider) commentariat saying this was inevitable because lolskinny, but that seems wrong in this case? Like, you'd think any foot-related injury would involve it supporting a lot of weight, right? Not a doctorb obviously.

we talkin bout praxis (Leee), Thursday, 25 August 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

doubt he was more or less injury prone than any 19yo player

ciderpress, Thursday, 25 August 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

Yeah with 7 footers and foot injuries generally more weight is bad

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 25 August 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

given that he suffered his injury playing on a wet court in a game that was subsequently called off 20 mins later, it doesn't feel like anything to be alarmed about longterm

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 August 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

Pro ams w current nba players had a good run

Spottie, Thursday, 25 August 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link

courts will only get wetter from here

ciderpress, Thursday, 25 August 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

Blame the Splash Bros for that one.

we talkin bout praxis (Leee), Thursday, 25 August 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

Seattle finally getting its revenge on OKC

symsymsym, Thursday, 25 August 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link

sad lols

Chet Holmgren Assures Fans He’ll Be Back And Perfectly Healthy For 9 Games Next Year https://t.co/c3ZDprE4pM pic.twitter.com/naBQraYILQ

— The Onion (@TheOnion) August 26, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 26 August 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

hey embiid missed his first 2 seasons and turned out fine

ciderpress, Friday, 26 August 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

I’m trying to think of it like he has a year to be 20 and hang out on the couch and bulk up a bit, but that still hasn’t happened for me and I’m almost 24

Clay, Friday, 26 August 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

lol nice try

ciderpress, Friday, 26 August 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

the interesting thing is if they get the no 1 pick next year and get wembanyama w/o having any idea of what they have in chet, but i guess that would be a good problem for okc. maybe not so for chet tho

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 August 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

chet-wembanyama-poku is a team of plastic mans

lag∞n, Friday, 26 August 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

i think i would be looking to rent in okc if i was poku...

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 August 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

they should get kd back for the full effect

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 August 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

Given the way the lottery works the thunder are just as likely to get Scoot Henderson

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 27 August 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

i appreciate that our euros want to rep their countries but its just too much after an already too long nba season, they need to rest and recover, especially luka

Luka Doncic just limped off the floor in Munich, Germany. He was grabbing the area of his right ankle.

— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) August 28, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

seems like hes fine but still hes out there taking damage when he should be in getting massages and whatnot

lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link

Ja Morant bought a pair of side-by-side mansions in Memphis for him and his family 🏠

(🎥: @JaMorant) pic.twitter.com/4rWMqpmkY8

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) August 28, 2022

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Sunday, 28 August 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

i appreciate that our euros want to rep their countries

yup, NBA's euros each have their dedicated fan bases in their home countries who will never be able to attend an NBA game. part of this is about payback for those fans.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 28 August 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

would be funnier if the houses looked identical

ciderpress, Sunday, 28 August 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

Giannis Antetokounmpo’s stat line vs Belgium today in the World Cup Qualifiers:

-62 Points
-20 Rebounds
-12 assists
-10 Blocks
-3 steals
-0 turnovers
-20/23 86%
-7/7 from 3 👀
-15/16 From the line

Wow. Wow. Wow. 🤯🤯🤯 pic.twitter.com/Xd9bdYiLgu

— βⓄ𝕓в𝕐𝓢𝓌𝓞𝐑𝓵𝐃🏀 (@BobbysWorld414) August 28, 2022

wild

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 28 August 2022 23:42 (one year ago) link

tbf: belgians

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 August 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link

lmao thats the most ridiculous line

lag∞n, Monday, 29 August 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

a quadruple double with a 103% true shooting pct, just another day at the gym

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 29 August 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link

lol i gotta be careful posting shit from twitter, that's fake

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 29 August 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link

actual stat line: 22 pts, 7 reb, 2 stls, W

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 29 August 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

haa

lag∞n, Monday, 29 August 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

thats the worst stat line i've ever seen

ciderpress, Monday, 29 August 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

wow giannis can’t even drop 60 on the belgians

k3vin k., Monday, 29 August 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

Europe continues to take it easy on the Belgians

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 13:22 (one year ago) link

lebron confirmed to okc and things of that nature

LeBron tells @SInow he wants to play with Bronny AND Bryce 🤯

“I’d definitely be looking at who got first-round picks in 2024, 2025, things of that nature; 2026, ’27. I pay attention to that type of stuff.” pic.twitter.com/clD3sLPwUI

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) August 30, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

wonder if bron is going to be able to pull that off at his further advanced age

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

if bronny is looking like an nba player by that point its no prob but 40 y/o bron trying to bully you into waisting a pick on his son idk, do you have to play him too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

rivals has him at 60th in his class and hes been as high as 30 so its not out of the question that he becomes an nba player but its not exactly "a slam dunk" either

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

does lebron have tom bradys juice connect?

Spottie, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

...looking at who got first-round picks in 2024, 2025

I notice he didn't say 'number one' or 'lottery', just 'first round'. And if a team takes bronny in the second round does that mean he would snub them?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

one of the all time great meltdowns

Reliving historical postseason fantastic finishes... the @okcthunder stormed back from down 7 with 49.2 left to take a 3-2 series lead in the 2014 West Semis! #NBA75 pic.twitter.com/qF3VK96IOB

— NBA History (@NBAHistory) May 2, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

multiple backbreaking chris paul mistakes in that clip, great stuff

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

doc rivers face turning inside out

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

i still cant believe that jamal finger roll didnt drop but also lol at jamal clearing everyone out so he could iso in the most important possession in franchise history

Spottie, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

and chris paul being like “ya ok you got it”

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

chris paul would have turned it over if his other late-game possessions were any indication

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

yeah true they did get a pretty good look out of it

Spottie, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

was really the flaw of those lob city teams no big shot creator

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

meanwhile kd is doing ridiculous things

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

luv 2 see kendrick perkins and big baby being in there for crunch time.

Spottie, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

bostons finest

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

btw, did anyone else get an email about league pass renewal that seemed to imply that it would be cheaper this year?? i'm not complaining, just incredulous.

circles, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link

i am notoriously bad at remembering how much things cost but i did get an email today with a number that seemed quite low

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link

link?

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 02:56 (one year ago) link

lol

The Knicks have $340M+ invested in their new Big 3, Jalen Brunson, RJ Barrett, and Julius Randle pic.twitter.com/XiDKNincLm

— NBA Retweet (@RTNBA) August 30, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link

that's what i call a big 3, baby

Clay, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 03:04 (one year ago) link

nba players are indeed big, and there are 3 of them

ciderpress, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 05:07 (one year ago) link

knicks are back* baby

*profligate again

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 11:28 (one year ago) link

btw, did anyone else get an email about league pass renewal that seemed to imply that it would be cheaper this year?? i'm not complaining, just incredulous.

― circles, Tuesday, August 30, 2022 9:09 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

i am notoriously bad at remembering how much things cost but i did get an email today with a number that seemed quite low

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, August 30, 2022 9:24 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yes, I had the same thought!

k3vin k., Wednesday, 31 August 2022 12:59 (one year ago) link

I’m just going to choose to not post about that clips/thunder video because it was posted here only to hurt me!

k3vin k., Wednesday, 31 August 2022 13:00 (one year ago) link

well there it is

Exclusive: NBA League Pass is getting a lot cheaper this season.

The standard package for out-of-market games will be sold for $99, and will include NBA TV access.https://t.co/slQ7bYimaG

— ✏️Jacob Feldman (@JacobFeldman4) August 31, 2022

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

thats super cool

Spottie, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

sold

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

nice, was totally expecting an email today saying that the summer intern had sent out an email with a typo in it

circles, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

if bronny is looking like an nba player by that point its no prob but 40 y/o bron trying to bully you into waisting a pick on his son idk, do you have to play him too


I thought this was all cool but the second son plan is getting into a weird area where I’m not sure his kids get to pursue their own interests

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

Did he learn nothing from his role in Space Jam?

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

He learned it from watching Doc Rivers.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link

what the hell happened to dudes knee

Kendrick Nunn's ramp-up process has reportedly been 'slower than anticipated.'https://t.co/Ns9FnxJzlO pic.twitter.com/J8fbXn4tDx

— Lakers Nation (@LakersNation) September 1, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

very weird. feels like he got caught in this weird place between requiring surgery and not and for whatever reason his body just hasn't healed on its own

he's a clear above average NBA player to me, can ball handle, score, and shoot. they could really use him

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

one year for a 3-4 week injury doesnt make sense.

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

ummm what???

The Cleveland Cavaliers have acquired Donovan Mitchell in a trade, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 1, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

yes!!!!!!!!!!! this is amazing lol

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

someone get a camera on Stephen A Smith pronto

frogbs, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

Cleveland will send three unprotected first round picks and two pick swaps as part of the deal to Utah for Mitchell, sources tell ESPN. https://t.co/vfphmFMIAf

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 1, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

amazing work everyone

ciderpress, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

Cleveland will send Lauri Markkanen, Colin Sexton and Ochai Agbaji to Utah in the package for Donovan Mitchell, league sources tell @YahooSports.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) September 1, 2022



seems kinda like a light price for the cavs? at least based on what was being tossed around

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

Full trade: Utah is trading Donovan Mitchell to Cleveland for Lauri Markkanen, Ochair Agbaji, Collin Sexton, three unprotected first-round picks and two pick swaps, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 1, 2022


Sexton has agreed to a sign-and-trade deal to join Utah, sources said.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 1, 2022

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

yeah lauri had a good year but is very shaky and they didnt care about sexton at all. the picks are whatever. really interested to see how donovan and garland look together. two undersized guards who need the ball to work, whos gonna play off ball?

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link

seems kinda like a light price for the cavs? at least based on what was being tossed around
― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 1, 2022 3:41 PM (fifty-eight seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk having all the picks/swaps unprotected is pretty rich

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link

having two ball handlers is good and even nearly a prerequisite in todays game, not that theres no risk their theyre both going to have to adjust, but where id worry about that backcourt is on defense xp

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

yes both of them are 6'1"

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

they can stagger with rubio theoretically, not sure how much left he has on D going forward tho

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

guess they figured they can make up for it with their twin towers, also maybe thinking mitchell can improve, theres no reason he shouldnt be a good defender hes super strong and athletic with cartoon wings

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

Levert moves to the three i guess? prob makes more sense to bring him off the bench and start a shooter at the three.

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

yeah they’re obv thinking that allen & mobley can make up for whatever defensive issues the backcourt has. seems a bit simplistic to me but hey

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

fascinating the knicks wouldn’t match three unprotected firsts. that was supposed to be nothing to them

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

nba twitter seems to think knicks fans should be upset about this outcome

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

that team is really intriguing now. if mobley and garland both take a leap this year they could be pretty dangerous

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

seems clear that the jazz wouldn't make a deal with the knicks without getting barrett in return

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

judging from this deal the jazz wouldve done it if the quality picks were there

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

that team is really intriguing now. if mobley and garland both take a leap this year they could be pretty dangerous

― Spottie, Thursday, September 1, 2022 3:52 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think theyre both going to be really good, maybe not quite this year but eventually

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

had to look up who cle's coach is

ciderpress, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

pretty huge deal for a guy who hasnt played since he blew out his knee and who also wasnt that good anyway

Sexton’s new $72M deal is fully guaranteed, sources said. https://t.co/V0w6X7WVM2

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) September 1, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

guess they figured itll be a deal if it pans out and if not who cares

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

yeah they’ll prob be reaching just to hit the salary flood

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

sexton is a weirdly efficient gunner that everyone hates. seems like he could work on the right team/situation (not the knicks)

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link

he clearly has a role in the NBA, on a good team it would be as sixth man

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

ainge going to try to pump n dump him

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

i refuse to believe the cavs without lebron will ever be actually threatening but congrats to them, this is a fun outcome. they may have the least line up flexibility of any team in the NBA. they only have point guards, centers, and caris levert

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

hes got 6moy potential for sure

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link

cavs have plenty of time to fill in their roster gaps, bunch of teams in their primes ahead of them now anyway

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link

i refuse to believe the cavs without lebron will ever be actually threatening but congrats to them, this is a fun outcome. they may have the least line up flexibility of any team in the NBA. they only have point guards, centers, and caris levert

― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 1, 2022 1:06 PM (twelve seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

they need okoro to be a rotation level player

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

also mobely at the 4 and mitchell at 2 is fine really

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

cavs have plenty of time to fill in their roster gaps, bunch of teams in their primes ahead of them now anyway

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 1, 2022 1:09 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this years goal is not be in the play in i would think

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

also mobely at the 4 and mitchell at 2 is fine really

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 1, 2022 1:11 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

garland is a great shooter tho so i bet he'll end up off ball more. not having any shooting at the 4/5 positions is not modern ball.

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

mobely could develop as a shooter hes showed some touch

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

non zero chance he turns into an mvp level player, felt like he was just casually doing things no one knew he could do last year

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

very strong only scratching the surface vibes

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

yeah hes ahead of schedule for a big, already in the dpoy hunt as a rookie is crazy.

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

if his off the dribble threes keep getting better and all of a sudden he's shooting like damian lillard he could get there

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

talking about garland obv

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

yeah hes ahead of schedule for a big, already in the dpoy hunt as a rookie is crazy.

― Spottie, Thursday, September 1, 2022 4:19 PM (three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

his defense is insane dont think weve really seen anyone play like him at his age

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

cavs have plenty of time to fill in their roster gaps, bunch of teams in their primes ahead of them now anyway

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 1, 2022 1:09 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this years goal is not be in the play in i would think

― Spottie, Thursday, September 1, 2022 4:12 PM (seven minutes ago)

i mean this all sounds nice but they were only two games out of 6th last year and that was only because jarrett allen broke his hand & they lost a million games in the final month of the season. their expectations have to be greater than that his year after this trade

& as for all the time they have, they have mitchell for three seasons which means they basically have next offseason to get the team to east contender status or all the whispers about him leaving in FA are gonna start up

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

99/100 rookie bigs look like wiseman their first year xp

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

the big bully ball thing was a cute gimmick but if mobley is that dude then they should be looking to trade allen for a real 3/4 type player

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

if i was the cavs i'd be offering allen to the raptors for siakam or OG

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

allen is good but his type of player doesnt have a ton of value i doubt the raps would be interested, wouldnt be surprised if he gets moved at some point tho, but as far as them pushing to be contenders now idk theres just many battle tested teams ahead of them and theyre so young its gonna tough

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

cavs have plenty of time to fill in their roster gaps, bunch of teams in their primes ahead of them now anyway

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 1, 2022 1:09 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this years goal is not be in the play in i would think

― Spottie, Thursday, September 1, 2022 4:12 PM (seven minutes ago)

i mean this all sounds nice but they were only two games out of 6th last year and that was only because jarrett allen broke his hand & they lost a million games in the final month of the season. their expectations have to be greater than that his year after this trade

& as for all the time they have, they have mitchell for three seasons which means they basically have next offseason to get the team to east contender status or all the whispers about him leaving in FA are gonna start up

― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 1, 2022 1:23 PM (forty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

who are they jumping in the top 5? i dont see it. maybe toronto? but they also have to grapple with the nets who theoretically should be better. I still see them in that 6-10 range
https://www.espn.com/nba/standings

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

well, if they make this trade and don't get any better that would be concerning to me lol

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

skipping the play in IS better

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

with good injury luck, and bad luck for other teams, they could make a little run but without that they could also easily be out in the first round idk mobelys 21 garland is 22 theyve not made if further than the playin its asking a lot for them to battle the big boys of the east

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

skipping the play in IS better

― Spottie, Thursday, September 1, 2022 4:29 PM (one minute ago)

they should be closer to 4th than 8th, imo

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

i will say the thing that points to them having a chance to compete with the top of the east this year is that they were actually by the numbers legit good when they were healthy last year, then add mitchell and a year of experience and they could end up ahead of schedule its not out of the question, but i wouldnt bet on it

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

Agree xp

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link

even w/ the east getting better if they're just in the 7/8/9 morass next year this trade will look kinda like a failure. same for the hawks tho! the east will be fun

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

the big unknown is whether the three teams who really didn't do much -- miami, chicago, toronto -- are still as good or if they get passed up by the nets, cavs, hawks. i would be really concerned if i was a bulls fan...

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

bulls are sad man they made big moves and came up way short

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

it seems like lonzo is not gonna be ready to start the season?

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link

maybe start but wont finish

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

from utah to ... cleveland. he cant be happy about that from a personal brand perspective.

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link

sounds like the knicks and jazz were close on a deal then the knicks just up and signed barrett to a new deal which blew the whole thing up

New York had the assets package that Utah preferred and the sides seemed to be inching closer to a trade on Sunday night and into Monday, but New York balked on including Quentin Grimes into a trade with RJ Barrett to acquire Mitchell, sources said.

When guard Immanuel Quickley was proposed as a replacement for Grimes in the trade, Utah wanted three unprotected first-round draft picks as part of the package -- but New York would only do a third first-round pick that included Top 5 protections, sources said. Those packages would've included two second-round picks, two pick swaps and two expiring contracts from a third team, sources said. New York would've moved out Evan Fournier and first-round pick to a third team to spare Utah taking on Fournier's remaining $37 million, sources said.

New York president Leon Rose had been running a parallel negotiation with Barrett's agent, Bill Duffy, on a rookie contract extension and set Monday night as a deadline with the Jazz to get a deal -- or pause talks to finalize a new deal with Barrett, sources said. Barrett's deal -- four years and worth up to $120 million, Duffy told ESPN -- added a "Poison Pill" provision to his contract until next July and would've forced the Knicks and Jazz to restart talks with new deal parameters based on the extension.

New York planned to continue pursuing Mitchell, sources said, but the Jazz pivoted to the Cleveland discussions and never again engaged New York in talks this week, sources said. The Knicks had made a calculated gamble that they could still get a deal done for Mitchell. A New York-area native, Mitchell had been enthusiastic over playing for the Knicks, sources said.

ESPN story on the Cleveland Cavaliers landing three-time All-Star Donovan Mitchell in a blockbuster trade with the Utah Jazz: https://t.co/5KyccigjMk

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 1, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 21:51 (one year ago) link

knicks continue to baffle

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link

D-MITCH!!! Cavs gonna go all the way this year. You heard it here first. Koby Altman = best GM of any Cleveland sports team in history!!!!

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 1 September 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

lets gooooo

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

did the knicks not know that poison pill refers exactly to being hard to trade or what lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

btw

The Donovan Mitchell/Collin Sexton blasphemy starter pack pic.twitter.com/huHVTj2Lmh

— Law Murray 🌚 (@LawMurrayTheNU) September 1, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 September 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

My biggest question about this deal: Does Donovan Mitchell want to be in Cleveland?

— Nate Duncan (@NateDuncanNBA) September 1, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link

it is a good question

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

Anything’s an upgrade over Utah

frogbs, Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

i love this trade for the cavs btw, this is more fun than using mid first round picks and i don't think they should lose sleep over any of the players they gave up

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link

i like this for the cavs too but I also believe that Danny Ainge needs to be immediately arrested and extradited to baseball

Clay, Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

having another team in the league like OKC will be annoying... there has never been an NBA where two teams owned as many draft picks as those two, and the jazz still have other trades to make. but whatever

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link

spurs have a small pick haul themselves as well

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

could get more if they do any deals for poeltl, josh richardson, and/or mcbuckets

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

im sure bojan will fetch another pick at the deadline for a contender looking for a scoring punch

Spottie, Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link

The reaction to this is... interesting I'll say that

Overall this is how I break it down to an extent

Danny ainge got lot young players from Minnesota timberwolves Cleveland Cavaliers got young guy from Los Angeles Lakers 6 future 1 rd draft pick sweep 1 draft pick Danny ainge. New Sam presti Oklahoma City Thunder. Get lots picks young guys

— Christopher Seymour (@Christo73680282) September 1, 2022

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link

huge if true

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link

need to wait for magics take before i decide

lag∞n, Friday, 2 September 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

idk if mitchell wants to be on the cavs but from a basketball and also fame perspective he should, getting in on the ground floor of an up and coming teams is better than playing for the freakin new york knicks

lag∞n, Friday, 2 September 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

'The Cleveland Cavaliers have traded for Donovan Mitchell. I predict we will see him play a lot of basketball as a guard where he'll score a lot of points for his team, but I guess we'll have to wait and see when the season begins this fall.'

xp

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 2 September 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link

m bison, the m stands for Magic.

we talkin bout praxis (Leee), Friday, 2 September 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link

Utah’s CEO of Basketball Danny Ainge is doing a fantastic job rearranging Utah roster and acquiring 13 unprotected or lightly protected picks. I don’t think he’s done yet!

— Earvin Magic Johnson (@MagicJohnson) September 1, 2022

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 2 September 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

boom

lag∞n, Friday, 2 September 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

lmao

Spottie, Friday, 2 September 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

i like this for the cavs, right time to take a swing. don't have any idea what the knicks are doing--either you want mitchell or you don't. you don't tie that to barrett talks or quentin grimes or whatever.

call all destroyer, Friday, 2 September 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

magic never disappoints, what a star

Clay, Friday, 2 September 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link

Report: Ecstatic Donovan Mitchell went ‘screaming around the golf course’ after he found out Cavs kept core players https://t.co/XLx78EDvZJ

— Cavaliers Nation (@WeAreCavsNation) September 2, 2022

i guess he's cool with it for now

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 2 September 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

nice

lag∞n, Friday, 2 September 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link

can this be true

At the start of trade talks in July, New York offered Utah a Donovan Mitchell package including RJ Barrett, Obi Toppin, Mitchell Robinson and three unprotected first-round picks, sources tell ESPN. Jazz turned down that offer and Robinson signed a $60M extension to stay w/ NY. https://t.co/3eDg2Mf7f1

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 2, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 2 September 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link

you don't want our guy??? ok, we'll sign him to a massive extension!!!

call all destroyer, Friday, 2 September 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

da knicks baby

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 2 September 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

this is all supporting my theory that the objective of knicks management is to not to get fired for as long as possible

call all destroyer, Friday, 2 September 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

well, yeah

mookieproof, Friday, 2 September 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link

i’m really curious what their plan is. hard to imagine them being in the top 8 of the east

J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

sir we have a plan for the coming season

[knicks gm turns over a piece of paper on which the words BING BONG have been hastily scribbled]

gentlemen, it's a go

Clay, Friday, 2 September 2022 02:18 (one year ago) link

well, yeah

― mookieproof, Thursday, September 1, 2022 9:51 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i guess i should express what i mean by that a little better--they seem to want to build 45-win teams. they have found some ok players and signed some prudent extensions but have foreclosed any path to actually being good.

call all destroyer, Friday, 2 September 2022 02:23 (one year ago) link

part of me thinks that they leaked a fake deal to woj to mollify annoying knicks fans on twitter

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 2 September 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link

yeah, i think that makes sense. i wouldn't put that past them at all

call all destroyer, Friday, 2 September 2022 02:53 (one year ago) link

i guess i should express what i mean by that a little better--they seem to want to build 45-win teams. they have found some ok players and signed some prudent extensions but have foreclosed any path to actually being good

only one team is actually going to win each year; in the meantime, what should the rest do? the east is loaded and the cavs just got mitchell; should the knicks now have a fire sale because they're doomed?

i mean i accept that y'all know much more about the pro game than i do, and i do not doubt the advanced stats. but in the process of having a fanbase that attends games and buys season tickets and is excited about the team, what's the best course? those dudes screaming outside the garden last year were the most exciting the knicks have been in 15 years.

would posit that a front office's real job is not to 'win titles' but to make the team perennially interesting and fun and sometimes if everything goes right they make a run. it didn't work out for utah and it hasn't yet worked out for the sixers, but so it goes

fuck the heat tho <3

mookieproof, Friday, 2 September 2022 04:23 (one year ago) link

The sixers are in the hunt tho.

Being a competent team is good but they’ve only done that like twice in the last two decades.

Spottie, Friday, 2 September 2022 05:48 (one year ago) link

would posit that a front office's real job is not to 'win titles' but to make the team perennially interesting and fun and sometimes if everything goes right they make a run.

the way to do this would have been to.....trade for donovan mitchell!

that's what i don't get--they've made all these arbitrage moves in the draft to collect picks, the reason to hire ex-agency guys to run the team is to acquire stars, and they've built a team where the two best players might not ever be all stars. it's so weirdly conservative and the rest of the east is just lapping them.

call all destroyer, Friday, 2 September 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link

windhorst said on his podcast that the knicks offered rj barrett, quentin grimes, obi toppin and two unprotected firsts. to me it makes no sense that the knicks couldn’t get the deal done if all that was at stake was one more unprotected first. bcuz those three players are > the three from the cavs. i think there are deals the knicks could have done here that would have gotten them killed by the media & fans, but i don’t think that would have been one of them.

windhorst also essentially said that the knicks pissed the jazz off by enacting this fake trade deadline & then signing barrett to the extension and announcing it. the knicks thought there were no other contenders for mitchell & decided to play a bit of hardball with the jazz who were then like “fuck these guys” and more or less immediately traded mitchell to another team for a package the knicks could have beaten. the question for me is whether the knicks were offered the ability to counter the cavs offer and bowed out or if the jazz just took the cavs offer without even calling the knicks back

J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

that is all just really weird

call all destroyer, Friday, 2 September 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link

corporations are people, my friend. people are strange.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 2 September 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

The thing about Donovan Mitchell is he’s not that good

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 2 September 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

If the Knicks had done the Donovan deal they would have stunk and the good vibes would be gone by January

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 2 September 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

RIP our sweet gazelle

After receiving further evaluation, Boston’s Danilo Gallinari has been diagnosed with a torn ACL in his left knee, per sources. This is the same ACL that Gallinari tore in 2013.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) September 2, 2022


likely the end of the road for him

Spottie, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

ah damn

lag∞n, Friday, 2 September 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

nooooo

call all destroyer, Friday, 2 September 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

didnt think hed do much for the celtics except soak up some reg season mins but still thats a bummer

lag∞n, Friday, 2 September 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

the knicks thought there were no other contenders for mitchell & decided to play a bit of hardball with the jazz

― J0rdan S., Friday, September 2, 2022 10:18 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol this is so dumb of course there were other teams who wanted him

lag∞n, Friday, 2 September 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

ainge wanting to punish the knicks for fucking around makes a lot of sense

lag∞n, Friday, 2 September 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

i think they thought they would be able to put together the best package in the end which was prob right and which makes me wonder whether ainge gave them the opportunity to beat the cavs offer and they passed or just decided to fuck them

J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

i would guess the latter

lag∞n, Friday, 2 September 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

have to say im not totally sure the players the knicks were offering are better than the cavs bunch depends on how you feel about barrett i guess but i dont think its out of the question to like sexton better, however i would def rather have knicks picks than cavs

lag∞n, Friday, 2 September 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

obvs anything can happen to any team over a ~5 year span but the cavs are looking pretty set up, they could even be decent in a season where one of their main guys was injured a bunch or whatever

lag∞n, Friday, 2 September 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

anyway, thanks to ainge for saving the knicks from themselves. not that this experience makes it any more likely that they will succeed with whatever trade might happen next.

will thibodeau actually play the young players they didn't trade? no.

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 2 September 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

who knows maybe theyll be able to trade for someone better than mitchell

lag∞n, Friday, 2 September 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

already hearing rumblings about them targeting SGA now

Spottie, Friday, 2 September 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

well yeah you'd much rather have him than mitchell, but the knicks' draft picks are presumably less valuable to the thunder, who already have forty first rounders, making their package less attractive than it might've been to the jazz.

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 2 September 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

all of this is making me even more annoyed that they completely punted this year's draft

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 2 September 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

obvs anything can happen to any team over a ~5 year span but the cavs are looking pretty set up, they could even be decent in a season where one of their main guys was injured a bunch or whatever

― lag∞n, Friday, September 2, 2022 3:01 PM (ten minutes ago)

the thing is that they essentially have two years to convince mitchell to stay there & if he leaves then they have two or three great young players and very minimal ability to add to them. so it's a gamble. but i support it

J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

mobley's ceiling is the variable that could alter whatever trajectory we're thinking for them tho

J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

at this point in the nba any player is libel to demand a trade at any time so you gotta just roll the dice

lag∞n, Friday, 2 September 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

we kinda knew this already but turns out the cavs missing the playoffs and not having to give up their first in the caris lavert deal was a great sequence of events for them

J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

The Cavs always have a shot at lebron’s free agency and their moves should be viewed in that context imo

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 2 September 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

feels like the clock is kinda ticking on that on both sides…

J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

Have a feeling that the league is just going to let them take bronny in the first and that will be that

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

the cavs first just goes to the pacers next year now. its only lottery protected

micah, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

Lonzo Ball is not expected to participate in Bulls training camp, per @JamalCollier and @ramonashelburne.

The point guard is doubtful for the start of Chicago's regular season due to 'lingering pain and discomfort.' pic.twitter.com/f6YD6z8Guc

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) September 2, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 2 September 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

yeesh

J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

sad for him, he was balling. this feels like something he’s prob never gonna come fully back from

J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link

yeah that really sucks. he was going to have a long, long career assuming good health.

call all destroyer, Friday, 2 September 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link

"They're gonna be playing with me. I made the playoffs last year, they didn't. It's a difference."

–– Pat Bev (@patbev21) on playing alongside Lebron & AD on the Lakers 😆 pic.twitter.com/JKqEKDPSMh

— Sports Illustrated (@SInow) September 6, 2022


NOW
this
is going
to be
FUN

k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 September 2022 03:24 (one year ago) link

he seems nice

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 03:53 (one year ago) link

hey fools watch the aces v storm on espn2 rn

.@cgray209 beats the shot-clock from three! 🎯

This game! 😬

📺 ESPN2 pic.twitter.com/U7s6Ymt6ge

— WNBA (@WNBA) September 7, 2022

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 03:56 (one year ago) link

2022 wnba playoffs thread

estamos aqui

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 03:57 (one year ago) link

waggling eyebrows

NBA May Soon Announce Seattle, Las Vegas Expansion Plans https://t.co/dKffcf36dd

— RealGM (@RealGM) September 7, 2022

The NBA is playing preseason games in Seattle and Las Vegas at the end of September and beginning of October. It may not be long before regular season games are played in both cities as well.

Willie Ramirez of the AP reports that sources have told him that the NBA wants to announce expansion plans to both Seattle and Las Vegas during this preseason.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

watch one great WNBA series and start getting ideas, huh

symsymsym, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

nuggets better win the nba playoffs quickly if i'm getting my actual WC team back

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

havent looked into the sourcing but it doesnt feel quite right, seems like we wouldve heard more about this by now if they were really on the verge of announcing it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

idk who willie ramirez is but i guess the tweet is gone

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

ah well nevertheless

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link

seems kinda inevitable but i hate the idea of expansion. just move two teams out of two lame markets

Spottie, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

Wish it were that easy, but potential conference realignments and lots of other franchise-specific business considerations make that pretty difficult.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

just move two teams out of two lame markets

OKC and Memphis?

we talkin bout praxis (Leee), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

okc, charlotte, new orleans

Spottie, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

sacramento surely

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

i am going to my usual coked up iconoclast self and say expansion is good, the league has a lot of talent

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

expansion is good from the pov of having more teams

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

i used to be mildly opposed to expansion, but the league is absolutely stacked with talent and i think it can absorb 2 new teams for sure.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

I’d be interested in reading a long thing by someone smart weighing the pros and cons of this. presumably it’d benefit the league financially, and sure there is enough NBA talent to field another couple of teams. but the NBA is a star’s league and there aren’t really 32 stars with that kind of draw…and the way things have been trending with stars teaming up, it seems possible we’d just end up with 2 more really bad teams

k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 September 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

i agree its preferable to move and change ownership of two shitty teams but that has more to do with the fact that there are shitty orgs/locations than anything else IMHO

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link

the whole point of expansion is so that the owners can collect $5 billion or whatever the number will end up being for two new teams. saying you’d rather them relocate two bad franchises is like saying you’d rather the sky be green every day. i guess it will be interesting to see how you try and build a team up from zero nowadays but otherwise i’m ambivalent on it. seattle and vegas are at least two cool markets, better them than kansas city and louisville

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 September 2022 21:51 (one year ago) link

very much looking forward to some minor conference realignment so, say, the team in Louisiana is not in “the west” etc

Clay, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link

im ok with going to 32 but no further, after that they need to move teams

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

its a power of 2 you gotta stop there

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

saying you’d rather them relocate two bad franchises is like saying you’d rather the sky be green every day

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, September 7, 2022 5:51 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

wow ok

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

they should move the spurs to the eastern conference again while they're at it

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

throwback hell yeah

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link

Add 2 teams AND move the thunder to KC

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 8 September 2022 07:22 (one year ago) link

still would like to see a nashville team

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 September 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

two teams in TN would be wild

Spottie, Thursday, 8 September 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link

they let f'n george karl into the hall of fame? good lord.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 11 September 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link

ridiculous

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 September 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link

gen z kg

Offseason lab work for Evan Mobley 🧪

(via @swishcultures_) pic.twitter.com/HQKFfGymCe

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) September 11, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 September 2022 03:04 (one year ago) link

Anthony Edwards forgot to hop on his burner 😭 pic.twitter.com/RQfUWEvpWX

— Drew (@PGSupremacy) September 11, 2022

damn the lad is now canceled

k3vin k., Sunday, 11 September 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link

fuuuuck

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 11 September 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

I’m shocked!

k3vin k., Sunday, 11 September 2022 23:47 (one year ago) link

macho guy is homophobic

k3vin k., Sunday, 11 September 2022 23:48 (one year ago) link

smh

Spottie, Monday, 12 September 2022 04:15 (one year ago) link

fwiw:

What I said was immature, hurtful, and disrespectful, and I’m incredibly sorry. It’s unacceptable for me or anyone to use that language in such a hurtful way, there’s no excuse for it, at all. I was raised better than that!

— Anthony Edwards (@theantedwards_) September 11, 2022

symsymsym, Monday, 12 September 2022 04:33 (one year ago) link

really disappointing, what a shitty thing to say, shame on the lad

it sucks too he's really lucky gonna get a total break on this esp in the local media because of week 1 nfl and the vikings beating the packers, this is as probably as off the radar as hoops is all year

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 September 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

hope he goes the tim hardaway route and uses this to truly better himself

Spottie, Monday, 12 September 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

i hereby sentence him to corporate sensitivity training for the crime of doing a slur on social media

lag∞n, Monday, 12 September 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

does the nba have a DEI committee?

Spottie, Monday, 12 September 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

im sure they must

lag∞n, Monday, 12 September 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

hope he goes the tim hardaway route and uses this to truly better himself

― Spottie, Monday, September 12, 2022 12:53 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

honestly this, hoping there are some orgs in the twin cities that can step up

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 12 September 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

NBA has suspended Suns owner Robert Sarver for one year from the Suns and Mercury organization based on league investigation. Sarver has also been fined $10 million and complete training program focused on respect and appropriate workplace conduct.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) September 13, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

what does it even mean to suspend an owner like cmon

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

he gets to take a year off and relax

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

glen taylor got suspended over the joe smith contract thing. the NFL has suspended dan snyder and stephen ross in the last year as well. i agree that it seems generally unenforceable aside from the ban on being in the arena

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

i mean what else could it entail? can they stop him from making money off of the team for a year? i guess theres some revenue sources that go through the league office that they can withhold?

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link

i think it’s supposed to encompass a ban on being involved in team activities, roster building & marketing decisions etc. but no idea how they would enforce that

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

this seems like a slap on the wrist at most?

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

he can just pay off the ten milli with money he saved by not paying ayton last season

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

i would imagine $10 million is the biggest fine in the history of the league by a large margin but for a guy of sarver’s wealth that isn’t very painful

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

the owner doesnt need to do that stuff anyway though

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

10 mill to a billionaire is like a technical foul fine for the players

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

apparently 10 mil is the max possible fine per league rules.

i assume the suspension means he doesn't get to be involved as a governor in any votes on rule changes and all of that stuff though they must get to send someone in his place.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

being publicly outed as a big pos and having his toy taken away for a year at the very least cant feel great for him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

i mean hes still rich but theres not much the league can do about that

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

yeah i guess i would really only be satisfied if he was ousted

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

the sterling option would be good but i bet that has mostly to do with the other owners deciding youre too depraved even for them, which is a pretty high bar

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

there was a legitimate player revolt over sterling to the point of nearly protesting a playoff game which i think really forced the league’s (as a consortium of owners) hand in that situation. the suns seemed to take more of a “we just work here, man” approach to the sarver stuff which is totally understandable for various reasons incl them having real championship goals to worry about. but i think that helped keep the story on the back burner. also they had sterling on tape which always matters

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

yeah true re the player revolt, ultimately i think sterling was just worse, and a flagrantly gross dude

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

yeah the sterling event was unique. no one in ownership (which includes the commissioner) wants to set a precedent that allows their teams to be taken away

(i do find it funny that the nfl basically made jerry richardson sell the panthers but won't do anything meaningful to daniel snyder)

love in the espn article that sarver fully cooperated with the investigation but became incensed that he might actually be *punished* for anything

mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

with sterling the recordings were such a big deal, that always gives these things multiple times the magnitude

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

if franz can do things like this

Franz Wagner with the stepback three over Giannis 😳pic.twitter.com/aQJV8xPfUX

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) September 13, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

he’s apparently been amazing in that tournament

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 September 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

i feel like if he was a free agent tomorrow someone would give him like $125 million. being a wing at that age who looks that good is rare

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 September 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

guess they do have him on tape

The report indicates there are videos of Sarver’s behavior taken by employees, but it doesn’t appear they will be made public. Again, more than what its counterparts can say it has done in ownership investigations.

https://sports.yahoo.com/robert-sarvers-suspension-fine-was-always-the-most-likely-outcome-to-avoid-discovery-in-a-lawsuit-054645546.html

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link

"The Jon Krawczynski Show – Talk North Podcast Network" https://talknorth.com/krawczynski/?amp

Guest this week is Chris Hine, the Star Tribune Wolves beat writer who is gay, talking about Ant. Later he talks more generally about being a gay man in the sports world and how it's hard to ever know where you stand with the athletes you cover and the general widespread homophobia in sports culture across the board.

He mentioned Jokic's comment in a press conference, I had missed that when it happened.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link

ah ok then

NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said that there was no conversation with Robert Sarver about selling the Phoenix Suns, that Sarver "has evolved as a person" during his 18-year ownership tenure and that he has done "many very positive things" in his role.

— Ben Golliver (@BenGolliver) September 14, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

from everything im reading this seems to be silvers low point

Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

silver was not ready for this question was he

. @HowardBeck: "Why should there be a different standard for NBA owner than it would be for everybody who works in this league?"

Adam Silver: "There are particular rights here to someone who owns an NBA team as opposed to someone who is an employee."pic.twitter.com/iS4n5gII9v

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) September 14, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

That is opposite of what he should say.

Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

apparently the only thing that will work is if theres footage or sound clips of it i guess. someone needs to leak it asap

Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link

silver being unprepared for that question yikes, they really thought they swept this up

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

apparently the only thing that will work is if theres footage or sound clips of it i guess. someone needs to leak it asap

― Spottie, Wednesday, September 14, 2022 1:09 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

... or a player revolt. but that seems unlikely here

Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

That is opposite of what he should say.

― Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Wednesday, September 14, 2022 3:59 PM (twenty-five minutes ago)

regardless of how he could massage the messaging, it is simply true that owners have different rights than employees do. not just in the NBA but in any business. silver can't fire an owner, for one. so you're already inherently bargaining yourself down on punishment to begin with

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

i haven't seen the press conference and maybe silver does come off particularly bad but at the end of the day owners run sports leagues and commissioners exist to do their bidding. NBA fans like to pretend that the NBA is different & more virtuous than other sports leagues but this situation is laying bare that NBA owners are going to protect themselves and send their commissioner out in front of the firing squad to give slimy responses to questions he can't truthfully answer just like the NFL and MLB do

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

its true. disappointing

Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

Based on some conversations with NBA people around the league there is speculation that the NBA did not want a legal battle with Robert Sarver. So they put the report out there to allow it to run its course - Sponsors reaction, Minority owners reaction, Media, Fans etc..

— John Gambadoro (@Gambo987) September 14, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

gambo also said this yesterday

Here is what could happen in regards to the Suns ownership. There is very likely language in the partnership agreement that would allow for the removal of the principal owner for cause. IF the minority owners determine that Robert Sarver violated his fiduciary duties and acted

— John Gambadoro (@Gambo987) September 13, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link

Read through the Sarver stories a few times now. I gotta be honest…Our league definitely got this wrong. I don’t need to explain why. Y’all read the stories and decide for yourself. I said it before and I’m gonna say it again, there is no place in this league for that kind of

— LeBron James (@KingJames) September 14, 2022

behavior. I love this league and I deeply respect our leadership. But this isn’t right. There is no place for misogyny, sexism, and racism in any work place. Don’t matter if you own the team or play for the team. We hold our league up as an example of our values and this aint it.

— LeBron James (@KingJames) September 14, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link

REVOLT!

Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

Nice bit of agitation there, bron. Go for it.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

Like many others, I reviewed the report. I was and am horrified and disappointed by what I read. This conduct especially towards women is unacceptable and must never be repeated.

— Chris Paul (@CP3) September 15, 2022

I am of the view that the sanctions fell short in truly addressing what we can all agree was atrocious behavior. My heart goes out to all of the people that were affected.

— Chris Paul (@CP3) September 15, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

Regarding the reaction to commissioner Adam Silver's comments today about team owners having different rights than employees, NBA spokesman Mike Bass offered this clarification: pic.twitter.com/xT8LyAejev

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) September 15, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 01:30 (one year ago) link

so we're all done with pretending silver is good at this, right?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 September 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

idk feel like hes done some good things but this looking like kind of a disaster

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

Silver was probably thinking of the contractual rights of NBA owners governing what he as commissioner could do to respond to Sarver's conduct. The NBA has no legal authority to prosecute Sarver under the various laws that protect employees from harassment or workplace abuse. The NBA could only do what they did: investigate, report what they found, fine him, and 'suspend' him. But that wasn't what Silver said, and he deserves to get knocked for it.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 15 September 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link

CP3 speaking out against his own owner seems like a big deal

Spottie, Thursday, 15 September 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link

i have no sympathy for him bcuz he gets paid obscene amounts of money to deal with these problems but he’s in a lose lose situation with this. i’m not sure what he could have said at that press conference that would have satisfied people except for a level of honesty that he is paid specifically to avoid

J0rdan S., Thursday, 15 September 2022 03:27 (one year ago) link

on the one hand it shouldn’t *have* to be on the players to hijack the NBA’s justice system in situations like this in order to push the league towards a resolution that feels like a legitimate punishment. on the other, star players like lebron and cp3 in particular have pointedly codified and utilized their power more so than any players in league history. in this case, for whatever reason, they seemed to have chosen not to, so these statements feel hollow to me, especially if they remain unwilling to make the league uncomfortable beyond tweeted statements

J0rdan S., Thursday, 15 September 2022 03:43 (one year ago) link

Chris Paul is going out of his way not to say Sarver's name in those statements

symsymsym, Thursday, 15 September 2022 03:54 (one year ago) link

on the one hand it shouldn’t *have* to be on the players to hijack the NBA’s justice system in situations like this in order to push the league towards a resolution that feels like a legitimate punishment. on the other, star players like lebron and cp3 in particular have pointedly codified and utilized their power more so than any players in league history. in this case, for whatever reason, they seemed to have chosen not to, so these statements feel hollow to me, especially if they remain unwilling to make the league uncomfortable beyond tweeted statements

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, September 14, 2022 8:43 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah they kinda missed the boat when this all came to light

Spottie, Thursday, 15 September 2022 04:11 (one year ago) link

CP3 also has the historical record to contend with given that he was the clear leader among the Clips players when the Sterling stuff went down. Any and all differences between his words and actions then and now inevitably have a lot of significance

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 15 September 2022 05:22 (one year ago) link

all of the owners are evil dickheads anyway. billionaires. if theyre not indulging in sexual harrasment theyre violating the poor with predatory loans and amway shit

the banana boat arent going to speak up about that either because capitalism goes brrr

micah, Thursday, 15 September 2022 10:28 (one year ago) link

Otmfm

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 15 September 2022 12:06 (one year ago) link

micah otm

basically my feelings as well. the sarver stuff is gross but all of these guys suck, he just has enough enemies that it all came to light. I really doubt the NBA has the appetite to be the moral cops for all its owner oligarchs as it would ultimately just threaten its business model

k3vin k., Thursday, 15 September 2022 13:00 (one year ago) link

yeah somehow dont think the nba is going to go anti capitalist, having a workplace free of bosses telling dick jokes would be some small kindness for the people who work there tho, and its nice to see one of these fat cats be publicly humiliated from time to time

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link

the thing about the nba-billionaire relationship is its mutually beneficial, the fact that the owners are willing to buy the teams as toys rather than actual businesses pumps a ton of money into the system that otherwise wouldnt be there, eg the warriors paying $200m in luxury tax, allowing the players to get filthy rich and generally keeping the wheels greased, if say the players form a coop league (my dream) it just wouldnt be as easy as having some private equity guy cutting the checks

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

Now I'm thinking of a team owned by a perpetually stoned J.R. Smith.

Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Thursday, 15 September 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

Barkley's thoughts on being a broadcaster for the Saudi backed LIV golf tour: https://nypost.com/2022/07/21/charles-barkley-slams-selective-outrage-hopes-to-do-tnt-liv-golf/

Basically it's micah's point, all the owners are evil in some way or another. What evil is too much in sports ownership?

that's not my post, Thursday, 15 September 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

there is no ethical consumption under capitalism --when an oppressive government offers me $50 for a few weekends work

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

btw not sure this liv golf pr stunt is having the intended effect when every article about it is like the worst people in the world are backing this is that ok

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link

*$50m xp

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

the whole part of them trying to make it cool by blasting music is pretty funny too

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

perfect authoritarian government stunt

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link

lol there was a liv golf thing here in the last couple weeks and a bunch of people camping out for a wedding near the property line of the course got rousted for being suspected protestors. great publicity lol.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 September 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

fwiw, there has to be a line when the evil is too evil. LIV is over the line for me. But thinking the owners are going to identify that line and police it is pretty unlikely as the sarver case and the nba-china stuff shows

that's not my post, Thursday, 15 September 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

the capitalism stuff wrt to the owners & players is true but i do think we should remember that it is possible to be a billionaire and not be abusive in the workplace

J0rdan S., Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

there is no ethical consumption under capitalism --when an oppressive government offers me $50 for a few weekends work

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 15, 2022 11:37 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

thats not consumption anyway!

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

lol at there being evil golf now though, i wasn't aware of this

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

Evil golf is kind of redundant tbh.

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

thats not consumption anyway!

― ciderpress, Thursday, September 15, 2022 12:16 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

hey man i dont make the rules

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

apparenlty kyrie shared an alex jones clip on his ig

Kyrie Irving just posted a video clip entitled “Never Forget - Alex Jones Tried To Warn Us” with Jones claiming back in 2002 that a “New World Order” would release “plagues upon us…” pic.twitter.com/sz2Ps7Fbrn

— Tommy Beer (@TommyBeer) September 15, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 15 September 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

shocked_shocked.gif

k3vin k., Thursday, 15 September 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

lol what a shithead

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link

man i really hope this nets team goes down in flames AGAIN

Spottie, Thursday, 15 September 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link

someone other team should get to wear those cool nets jerseys and the nets should have to wear burlap sacks with numbers handwritten in chalk by robert sarver, all problems solved *genuflects*

Clay, Thursday, 15 September 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

alright, now maybe some traction

Suns vice chairman Jahm Najafi released a statement Thursday calling for owner Robert Sarver to resign.

Najafi, who owns the second-largest ownership stake in the Phoenix franchise behind Sarver, said he “cannot in good judgment sit back and allow our children and future generations of fans think that this behavior is tolerated because of wealth and privilege.”

Najafi went on to say that Sarver’s conduct would’ve warranted immediate termination by any CEO, executive director, president, teacher or coach.

“That fact that Robert Sarver ‘owns’ the team does not give him a license to treat others different than any other leader. The fact that anyone would find him fit to lead because of this ‘ownership’ position is forgetting that NBA teams belong to the communities they serve.”

Sarver was suspended one year by the NBA following the completion of the league’s investigation into allegations he fostered a toxic and hostile work environment. Sarver was also suspended from the Phoenix Mercury, the WNBA team he owns, fined $10 million and must complete a training program focused on respect and appropriate workplace conduct.

“The statements and conduct described in the findings of the independent investigation are troubling and disappointing,” NBA commissioner Adam Silver said in a statement. “We believe the outcome is the right one, taking into account all the facts, circumstances and context brought to light by the comprehensive investigation of this 18-year period and our commitment to upholding proper standards in NBA workplaces.”

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 16 September 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link

rip big man

lag∞n, Friday, 16 September 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

i don't hate it, but sarver's minority partners crying foul at this point is just opportunism

mookieproof, Friday, 16 September 2022 02:17 (one year ago) link

no idea what kind of juice this guy has but that is an interesting statement.

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 September 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link

Somebody in the comments on that piece (it’s from the athletic) says that this guy has been looking for an opportunity to oust Sarver for awhile. So yeah could be opportunism but that’s not mutually exclusive from purer motivations in this case. I assume it’s both/and

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 16 September 2022 02:28 (one year ago) link

sounds right. bad things happening to bad people because of the effort of other bad people doesn't necessarily lead to bad outcomes.
this guy does get to be rich and an asshole for life in any case.

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 September 2022 03:03 (one year ago) link

Phoenix mayor Kate Gallego and some of the city's councilmembers also released a statement, which stated, in part, "We have asked city staff to investigate any actions we, as leaders of the City of Phoenix, can take in light of the details substantiated in the report." https://t.co/Aqyt9FwR7M

— Baxter Holmes (@Baxter) September 16, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 16 September 2022 03:43 (one year ago) link

joe arpaio is locked/loaded/ready to root out racism in the nba

mookieproof, Friday, 16 September 2022 04:09 (one year ago) link

has sinema made a statement?

k3vin k., Friday, 16 September 2022 12:58 (one year ago) link

the fearless and iconoclastic trailblazer kyrsten sinema is not afraid to zig when others zag and will surely see the redemptive potential for robert sarver

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 16 September 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link

by coincidence he has a lot of money, some of which she surely sees

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 16 September 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link

this might actually happen huh

PayPal, a sponsor of the Phoenix Suns, released a statement on the Robert Sarver situation:

"In light of the findings of the NBA's investigation, we will not renew our sponsorship should Robert Sarver remain involved with the Suns organization, after serving his suspension." pic.twitter.com/JanBRkiPUq

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) September 16, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 16 September 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

the company founded by peter thiel and elon musk has seen enough!

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 16 September 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link

all this posturing is funny but also who cares if it gets sarver out. suns fans have been hoping for this for a long time

Spottie, Friday, 16 September 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

yeah he was already considered one of the worst owners in the league before any of this surfaced

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 16 September 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

pretty much since he decided not to pay a litte more to retain joe johnson

Spottie, Friday, 16 September 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

baxter holmes on zach lowe’s podcast was really good today on sarver and the league’s response.

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 September 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link

schroeder back to the lake show

Spottie, Saturday, 17 September 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

good luck to everyone involved

J0rdan S., Saturday, 17 September 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link

need to see a schroeder/russ/pat 3-guard lineup. i need it.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 17 September 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link

lol brutal

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 September 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

haha man three very strong minded individuals there

Spottie, Saturday, 17 September 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link

ad/bron/russ/pbev/schroder is the lakers five best players right

micah, Saturday, 17 September 2022 10:55 (one year ago) link

Players union executive director calls for lifetime ban for Sarver https://t.co/Ydr6ixBqy2

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) September 17, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 September 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

prob wouldve been better for him to quietly sell his shares when this thing broke

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 September 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

I don’t actually want to see it but you have to admit it would be hilarious if the lakers somehow achieved hive mind in the preseason and won 80 games

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 17 September 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

How is PJ Dozier?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 18 September 2022 01:40 (one year ago) link

he has prototypical nba wing size but is not that good at basketball, also hes coming off an acl tear

lag∞n, Monday, 19 September 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link

haha sounds promising

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 September 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

yeah i wouldnt expect much, hes a guy who people thought might have some upside but hes never really done anything

lag∞n, Monday, 19 September 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

sometimes GMs and coaches have these very special people that they sign and play multiple times w/no evidence of the guy being good....i think pj is a very special person for tim connolly.

call all destroyer, Monday, 19 September 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

i've played basketball gm sim games so i know how it is

ciderpress, Monday, 19 September 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

Someone should probably change Kyrie's twitter password for him: https://www.netsdaily.com/2022/9/20/23363168/kyrie-irving-vaccine-mandates-one-of-the-greatest-human-rights-violations-in-history

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

what a fn loser

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

he always takes it like 15 steps too far...

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 20 September 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

reminiscing to the finer days when I believed kyrie was just a mid-20s jackass deep thoughts big questions dumbass, before I thought he was a world historical clown paddling in the deep end

Clay, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link

social/new media is so bad for athletes look at what happened to aaron rodgers just from going on podcasts

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

you cant be publicly declaring what an idiot ahole you need pr professionals in place to stop you

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

lol kyrie. man id like to know what kd really thought once the honeymoon phase ended, and what he thinks now.

Spottie, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

kd seems like he just blocks kyrie's erratic behavior out of his mind and acts like it doesn't exist

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link

prob all you can do to keep it civil

Spottie, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 21:57 (one year ago) link

kd seems like he just blocks kyrie's erratic behavior out of his mind and acts like it doesn't exist

Considering how KD was mad at the Nets for how they treated KI and how I'm sure he knows about some of the latter's hot takes, this is my feeling.

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

such a stupid asshole

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link

love this guy's game so much (when he deigns to play), such a stupid asshole

kyrie is a sick highlight player but speaking as someone who watched most of his games for a couple years his overall game is definitively not lovable

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

much like with vaccines he just doesnt get it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

there it is

BREAKING: Robert Sarver has begun the process of selling the Phoenix Suns and Mercury.

In a statement, Sarver says, “In our current unforgiving climate, it has become painfully clear that [atonement and forgiveness] is no longer possible.” pic.twitter.com/IxZH7eUlXC

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) September 21, 2022

loving the quote lol, a guy who definitely familiar with the concept of atonement

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

lmao what a lame

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link

Suns/Mercury owner Robert Sarver announces he has begun the process of looking for buyers for the team: pic.twitter.com/KKZQM6rYNk

— Gerald Bourguet (@GeraldBourguet) September 21, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

I'm sure Sarver will accept a 'fire sale' offer for his teams and possibly net less than a billion dollars in capital gains as a result. Serves him right!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

that was quick. i wonder if there was additional sponsor pressure that hadn't been reported or if he was just like fuck it, this isn't fun, i'll take the money.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

im sure he was getting heat from all sides.

love how hes playing the victim here.

Spottie, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

kyrie is a sick highlight player but speaking as someone who watched most of his games for a couple years his overall game is definitively not lovable

― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 21, 2022 9:26 AM bookmarkflaglink

much like with vaccines he just doesnt get it

― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 21, 2022 9:27 AM bookmarkflaglink

Also sick because he doesn't get vaccines do u see?

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

nice lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

what a depressing career

Bulls guard Lonzo Ball will undergo surgery on his left knee this week and be re-evaluated in four to six weeks, team says.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) September 21, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

i just heard that rob williams is going through the same, sad sad sad

yeah i mean it is what it is

“I'm told the Lakers and Pacers did engage in some trade conversations this week and the Pacers' demand for two unprotected first-round picks … is just not appealing for the Lakers.”

NBA Insider @ShamsCharania reports on the Pacers' plans to keep Myles Turner into the season. pic.twitter.com/rQjk6DDv0R

— The Rally (@TheRally) September 21, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link

rob williams has at least stepped on the court. lonzo is in a black hole

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 September 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

i really don’t understand how myles turner hasn’t been traded, you’d think a lot of teams could use that skillset. alas the lakers who should be playing AD at center with lebron and a bunch of ballhandler shooter types around them isn’t one of those teams

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 September 2022 02:06 (one year ago) link

its just cause he make too much money

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link

yeah i'm not sure what you want with myles turner at the market price for a guy like that when in theory you have anthony davis for upwards of 50 games a year

Clay, Thursday, 22 September 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link

Turner makes no sense on that team but they are desperate for anyone that can play. Guess they didn’t learn from last year that fit actually matters

Spottie, Thursday, 22 September 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link

bojan traded

The Detroit Pistons are finalizing a trade to acquire Utah Jazz forward Bojan Bogdanovic for Kelly Olynyk and Saben Lee, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 22, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 22 September 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

i can’t believe no team in the league stepped up with a better offer than saben lee. how can that be possible

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 September 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

yeah he was really a perfect fit for the suns

Spottie, Thursday, 22 September 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

LOLynyk is still playing?!

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Thursday, 22 September 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

he's solid when he's upright

pump fake master

ciderpress, Thursday, 22 September 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

kelly o is good role player, but yeah detroit made a very nice move here, are they gonna make a playoff run? or do they just need a vet to play with their young guys?

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 22 September 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

theyre still way too young like the theoretical pistons playoff team involves jaden ivey being good and he has never played an nba game

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link

east is a little soft at the bottom there's a theoretical situation where they squeak into the play-in but that's about the ceiling for a couple years

Clay, Thursday, 22 September 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link

yeah i mean anyone whos not tanking has a shot at the playin

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 September 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

if i’m taking an optimistic view of detroit’s strategy, they got him for nothing and can flip him at the deadline if he’s a good soldier for a few months.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 September 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

yeah win win for detroit

Spottie, Thursday, 22 September 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link

for that price it feels like a no brainer. this makes me think the league secretly thinks he’s cooked or something

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 September 2022 23:47 (one year ago) link

if you’re a contender and aren’t convinced he has enough left, it makes more sense to get him at the deadline. he’s not doing anything for anyone in november and december.

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 September 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link

vibe check

Jae Crowder tweeted and deleted: pic.twitter.com/bC2VnU0Zht

— Gerald Bourguet (@GeraldBourguet) September 24, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 24 September 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

lol suns really lost all their mojo very quick like

Spottie, Saturday, 24 September 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

cursed franchise

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 24 September 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

at least they got rid of sarver

lag∞n, Saturday, 24 September 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link

*pending

Clay, Saturday, 24 September 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link

god willing he will be eradicated

lag∞n, Saturday, 24 September 2022 23:54 (one year ago) link

Yah if that’s the price then you have to take it. And a lot of teams would love to have a mikal/book/Ayton core locked up. The real curse is CP obv looks like he ran his course there

Spottie, Sunday, 25 September 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

yeah theyre obvs never going to to it for personal/political reasons but wouldve been cool to unload him this summer, in a kd trade particularly

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 September 2022 00:33 (one year ago) link

getting your ass kicked up and down the court by a mavericks team that can accurately be described as "flawed" will do things to the vibes

call all destroyer, Sunday, 25 September 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

could be cool if they get a new owner who isn't a cheapskate piece of shit who maybe gets rid of the most backwards weird-assed front office in the league

Clay, Sunday, 25 September 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

too bad they couldnt get something done for kd, not sure he was ever really available

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 September 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

they never had a decent trade package for him even if he were

call all destroyer, Sunday, 25 September 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link

ayton bridges and a bunch of picks is idk pretty good, obvs not nearly what the nets were looking for but they were being unreasonable

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 September 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link

my theory is kd was never really available they were just playing along cuz they had to

Clay, Sunday, 25 September 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

yeah i agree, it was prob the right move by them too, i mean the whole thing will prob blow up in their face still but they had to try

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 September 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link

saw a clip on ben simmons on redicks podcast talking about how the philly meltdown has helped him mature, im not sure what the point of the charade is

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 September 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

he’s a kardashian

k3vin k., Sunday, 25 September 2022 01:08 (one year ago) link

Nuggets held practice at Aaron Gordon’s house todaypic.twitter.com/OHrWgOFEjm

— Harrison Wind (@HarrisonWind) September 24, 2022

bones szn

k3vin k., Sunday, 25 September 2022 01:08 (one year ago) link

thats a cool gym ngl

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 25 September 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link

its nice how there are couches

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 September 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

imagine watching hoops and really having space to lounge, would pay extra for a couch

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 25 September 2022 01:13 (one year ago) link

not sure about having the car in there seems like its just gonna get hit by the ball a lot, but maybe he just mostly uses the space to work out more than play actual games

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 September 2022 01:21 (one year ago) link

cant tell what car that is it looks like it has a hood ornament not sure what that would be

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 September 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

i have located more footage of aaron gordons house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEBngPlyqaY

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 September 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

cant tell what car that is

― lag∞n, Saturday, September 24, 2022 9:23 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

think its a modded mercedes gls

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 September 2022 01:46 (one year ago) link

couches surrounding the court is a great idea, also looks like he has a big ass fan (tm) in there.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 25 September 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link

if you practice at aaron gordon’s house does anything happen to your jumper

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 September 2022 04:35 (one year ago) link

couches for all those sweaty asses

Spottie, Sunday, 25 September 2022 05:49 (one year ago) link

(sorry the dad in me took over) looks cool

Spottie, Sunday, 25 September 2022 05:50 (one year ago) link

Such a weirdo

This is beautiful. Karl- Anthony Towns pens note to girlfriend Jordyn Woods for her Birthday: “You pick two businesses you want to start and I will fund them.” ♥️ pic.twitter.com/1Dh2VgyRDK

— MEFeater Magazine (@mefeater) September 25, 2022

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 25 September 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

ok!

ONE MUST SEEK WORK WHERE HE IS WANTED.. WHERE HE IS NEEDED.! I AM THANKFUL FOR WHAT THESE PAST 2 YRS HAVE TAUGHT ME.! NOW I MUST TAKE ON ANOTHER CHALLENGE WITH CONTINUED HARDWORK & DEDICATION.! FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CLOSED THE DOOR ON ME…. THANK YOU! 99 BACK SOON.! 🥷🏾🤫🤐

— JAE CROWDER (@CJC9BOSS) September 25, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 September 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link

Suns vibes last season starting to look like one of the greatest psy ops in sports history

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 26 September 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

*suns in-between some brutal therapy sessions* "we're in a really good place right now."

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 26 September 2022 01:34 (one year ago) link

Kyrie Irving: "I gave up 4 years, 100-something million to be unvaccinated."

— Matt Brooks (@MattBrooksNBA) September 26, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

its true

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

smart and cool stuff

Clay, Monday, 26 September 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

shouldve lost more tbh

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 26 September 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

j isaac still no timetable for his return yikes

Jeff Weltman on Jonathan Isaac's status: pic.twitter.com/MGjLbR7iia

— Khobi Price (@khobi_price) September 26, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

media day content is flooding in and im getting pumped for hoop to be bacccck

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link

isaac will be a Qanon candidate for a house seat out of florida in 2 years

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 September 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

PJ tucker had knee surgery over the summer. i think he was the most overrated signing this offseason

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 September 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

media day content is flooding in and im getting pumped for hoop to be bacccck

― Spottie, Monday, September 26, 2022 12:18 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

2022 wnba playoffs thread

wnba season wrapped up a week ago, its been back

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 26 September 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

bison i appreciate your enthusiasm for the wnba, im sorry i dont watch it. but i do take my fam (or just my daughter) to a couple mercury games every year.

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

next seasonnnnnnn

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 26 September 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

wnba is still the beautiful game played at the highest level, but with a different ceiling on the players' body size and strength.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 26 September 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

a different ceiling on the players' body size and strength.

who gives a fuck

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 26 September 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

right-o. it's the game play that matters and the wnba 'offs were awesome.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 26 September 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

wolves media day will be interesting to see if the local media asks ANT about his homophobic comments and the fine

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 September 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

Aaron Gordon says he was not aware of what Anthony Edward’s has said in the video that resulted in a $40k fine. “I was ignorant of what was said and after doing more research I deleted it.”

Gordon says he values free speech but there are consequences to it and fine was warranted

— Hardwood Paroxysm (@HPbasketball) September 26, 2022

already talked to aaron gordon abt it apparently

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 26 September 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

everythings cool

Steve Nash on Kevin Durant on wanting him fired: "Kevin and I go way back. Families go through things like this."

— Matt Brooks (@MattBrooksNBA) September 26, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

i read matt brooks whole feed from today and its pure comedy

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

Sean Marks on Nets culture: "It's about having championship characteristics."

— Matt Brooks (@MattBrooksNBA) September 26, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

let seth coach

Seth Curry says he was trying to get Doc Rivers to play Ben Simmons at the 5 more in Philadelphia.

— Matt Brooks (@MattBrooksNBA) September 26, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

Ben Simmons on working on himself: "A lot of time has been put into making myself want to play."

— Matt Brooks (@MattBrooksNBA) September 26, 2022

Clay, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

cant argue with that

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

its so good lmao

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

learning to want to play is a big step in any basketball player’s life I think we can all agree

Clay, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

Joe Harris says Kevin Durant's trade request hasn't been a topic of discussion during open runs.

"You sort of just pick up where you left off."

— Matt Brooks (@MattBrooksNBA) September 26, 2022


... where you left off getting swept by the celtics

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

Kyrie Irving on if he was close to leaving the Brooklyn Nets in the offseason: “Yeah. There were options but not many because the stigma of whether or not I wanted to play or whether or not I’m committed to the team, which I thought was really unfair at times.” pic.twitter.com/3YA16wZucg

— Michael Scotto (@MikeAScotto) September 26, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

yah why would anyone think you're not committed to playing basketball???

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

lmaoooooo INCREDIDLE

Deandre Ayton seems thrilled to be back in Phoenix pic.twitter.com/Mn4Lkh6pP5

— SB Nation (@SBNation) September 26, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

haha damn

Clay, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

funeral march out here in phx

"This was the most saddest Media Day that I have ever attended. It felt more like a funeral... Definitely a sad day for the [Phoenix] Suns organization, but sounds like they're hopeful they can move forward."@MarcJSpears on the mood at Suns Media Daypic.twitter.com/l3MwBNA9YD

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) September 26, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

someone ask ayton about how the video games are going please

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

2022-23 might have the worst vibes of any basketball season i can think of

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 26 September 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

someone ask ayton about how the video games are going please

― lag∞n, Monday, September 26, 2022 1:46 PM (four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

needs to be a phx beat reporter there every week or so asking about how his myplayer is progressing in 2k

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 26 September 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

i just know hed cheer right up

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

yeah tbh I’m kinda scared of this season maybe we should skip it and everyone take some time for themselves, grow & reflect for awhile xp

Clay, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

if the nuggets win the nba playoffs and no one is there to see it, does it make a sound?

ciderpress, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

xp so, you're saying there's such a thing as too much messy drama?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 26 September 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

I’m sayin it’s time 2 heal

Clay, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

the messy drama vortex is powerful and shall not eject its victims willingly

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 26 September 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

bad vibes power ranking:
1 celtics - just lost their loser head coach, injuries hitting already, roster has additional injury-prone players (brogdon, d white)
2 nets - kyrie's presence alone makes them perennial bad vibes contenders, but add surly kd and ben figuring out if he LIKE likes basketball with overwhelmed hs teacher vibes nash on the bench and it looks rough
3 suns - vibes are way the fuck off, though sarver is at the heart of a lot of them and he's on his way out
4 hornets - bridges is garbage but lamelo coming out and saying he hopes he comes back is a fuckin red flag, feel like any jordan-owned franchise is gonna be in this bad vibes zone
5 magic - jonathan isaac played a half hour in this decade, has not played an NBA minute during the biden administration (dark brandon working HIS magic), markelle fultz hurt AGAIN, just a franchise riddled with injuries
6 lakers - bron is old af, westbrook and pat bev on the same team, AD is playing with a chip on his shoulder (out 4-6 weeks due to chip injury), that bench looks really suspect, new coach, just so many ways this can go south
7 knicks - feels like i shouldn't have to explain this, but suffice to say i dont think brunson makes them instant playoff favorites
8 mavs - front office has been a wreck, christian wood is talented but probably a locker room cancer, fuck jason kidd who is bad vibes at all times, higher expectations after sneaking into the 3rd round could get toxic fast
9 sixers - doc was horny online, harden is harden, tampering for old ass vets doesnt usually pay off bc hoops god gets vengeful (see: lowry in miami)
10 portland - kind of a wild card here bc i cant tell if theyre good or not, if they come out the gate rough, all the dame trade rumors would heat back up

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 26 September 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

crying @ seth curry attempting to introduce doc rivers to the concept of playing small

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 September 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link

i don't have time to put this together but would absolutely love a poll for best quote from media day 2022

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 September 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

I’m not sure portland has bad vibes right now per she but the ownership group being like OH WE ARE TOTALLY NOT SELLING WINK WINK and everyone in town wanting them to take a hike and Chauncey billups still around for now and the first months schedule is a murderer’s row I think the vibes (bad ones) are on their way

Clay, Monday, 26 September 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

yes, i *anticipate* the vibes, they loom large in the distance

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 26 September 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

the bulls def have to be on that list. lonzo’s knee ligaments have turned into creamed corn and lavine might not be far behind. they made all these moves just to “contend” and i’m not sure what argument one could come up with to say they’re in the top 8 teams in the east right now

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 September 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

who has the best vibes? bucks?

ciderpress, Monday, 26 September 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

Yeah. There were options but not many because the stigma of whether or not I wanted to play or whether or not I’m committed to the team

Huh, that's moderately perceptive and self-aware, maybe he's starting to

which I thought was really unfair at times

you what nm.

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Monday, 26 September 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

you *know what

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Monday, 26 September 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

the bulls def have to be on that list. lonzo’s knee ligaments have turned into creamed corn and lavine might not be far behind. they made all these moves just to “contend” and i’m not sure what argument one could come up with to say they’re in the top 8 teams in the east right now

― J0rdan S., Monday, September 26, 2022 3:02 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

you know i hadnt thought much abt chicago bc i felt like ppl were p cool with how they did last year. but this could def go south quick, they overachieved early last year and then slinked down the standings and regressed to their mean, but a lot of the season ppl were like "dont sleep on chicago, is demar an mvp candidate???" if they come out mid af which i think they will, there could be vibe adjustments.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 26 September 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

AD is playing with a chip on his shoulder (out 4-6 weeks due to chip injury)

a+ work by clay

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

who has the best vibes? bucks?

― ciderpress, Monday, September 26, 2022 1:19 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

surely the returning champs have to be up there.

bucks vibes will usually always been above avg as long as giannis is there and locked in.

cavs vibes seem to be real good but they could go south with donovan clearly not wanting to be in cleveland vs new york where he thought he was going.

pistons have something to look forward to, pretty good vibes i think.

grizzlies had a weird offseason ja is doing too much these days, jjj is eternally hurt and/or not good.

biggest possible vibe jump is the pelicans. but it could go sour any second with zion wanting out and/or gaining weight.

wolves had a good thing going but ant is now on rep damage control and the innocent 'the kid' facade is over. plus kat is just a weirdo

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

i think things got pretty bleak there in the final few months of the season and only seem worse now that the cavs and hawks are a clear tier above them on paper & lonzo still can't even run w/o pain. if they don't make the playoffs or only get out of the play in before getting annihilated they're gonna be in that deathly middle of not being anywhere near contention or a top 3 pick. and if the magic start to do well it's gonna be even worse. i feel like their GM could low key be out of a job in 2 years or less

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 September 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link

8 mavs - front office has been a wreck, christian wood is talented but probably a locker room cancer, fuck jason kidd who is bad vibes at all times, higher expectations after sneaking into the 3rd round could get toxic fast

lets check in on the mavs media day

Christian Wood will be primarily a sixth man for the Mavs, Jason Kidd says. “I don’t need him to be ‘The Microwave.’ I just need him to be C. Wood.”

— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) September 26, 2022

Lol

— 35 (@Chriswood_5) September 26, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

bulls had that stretch where derozan was an mvp candidate for like 2.5 weeks and it masked a lot of slippage cos he was hitting wild game winners.

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

i read matt brooks whole feed from today and its pure comedy

― Spottie, Monday, September 26, 2022 11:27 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

This shit here is why I don’t like talkin to lames like you. This isn’t the question he asked but you love engagement on twitter so u will twist shit up. https://t.co/nXOnu2jd9v

— Kevin Durant (@KDTrey5) September 26, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

"100 pounds" 💀

James Harden on the weight he lost this offseason

(via @MrUram)pic.twitter.com/7GUxaBJ4Na

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) September 26, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

<i>a+ work by clay</i>

as much as i love credit more than anything in the whole world, the chip injury joke was bise's not mine!

Clay, Monday, 26 September 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

who has the best vibes? bucks?

― ciderpress, Monday, September 26, 2022 1:19 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

surely the returning champs have to be up there.

― Spottie, Monday, September 26, 2022 4:39 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah these two have to be strong faves to meet in da finals, so far as such things are possible before any basketball has been played, they have the vibes the personnel and the experience

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 21:12 (one year ago) link

biggest concern is prob theyre both getting a lil old

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

yeah but poole ascension is breathing new life. and hopefully one or two of moody/kuminga/wiseman will take a leap this year. the potential drama lies in draymond, poole and wiggins contracts/extensions and not being able to pay everyone what theyre worth

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

bucks still pretty squarely in their primes. jrue and middleton nearing the back end of their primes tho yeah.

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link

yeah neither team is genuinely old theyre just in that zone where theres a somewhat greater chance of injury or defensive slippage, dubs young guys are a wildcard for sure, the possibility of wiggins turning back into a pumpkin maybe too idk, but basically youre left to speculation trying to come up with problems for either team

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link

thinking about it i guess if i had a major concern for the dubs it would be draymond, he looeds genuinely awful at times last year hes a guy who everyone kinda thought his game wouldnt age well and hes got the contract situation

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

maybe its time, to trade him to charlotte

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

draymond's deal with tnt means tha billionaires need him around for zee prestige and future control of messaging

Clay, Monday, 26 September 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link

this is not the man you want doing pr lol

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

draymonds back injury last year turned out to be really serious and he admitted he thought he might be done for the season or worse. pretty lucky they got him back. hes still the most impactful defender in the league when hes locked in. i think him looking awful was a little overstated, he still looked like a top ~15 impact player at other times. but the team isnt as offensively stacked as it was so his offensive limitations stand out a little more now. just looked it up and looney is one year younger than giannis i swear he seems older than curry and curry is like 8 years older

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link

i wonder if lebrons group is trying to buy the suns

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link

Another good one

LMFAOOOOOOOOO pic.twitter.com/5ntatS09d8

— Mike🎲 (@YungMike3_) September 26, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

got a lil tipsy throwing that back ngl

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 26 September 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link

woww

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link

plus kat is just a weirdo

Bill Walton was a weirdo and a half, but he was so good on court that the fans and his teammates didn't give a rip.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 26 September 2022 22:45 (one year ago) link

I’m embracing Russ’s “everyone hates me and I’m chill about that, it’s just a job man lol” phase with an open heart

Clay, Monday, 26 September 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

walton was just a hippy, kat is just lame?

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

I’m embracing Russ’s “everyone hates me and I’m chill about that, it’s just a job man lol” phase with an open heart

― Clay, Monday, September 26, 2022 3:54 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yea im kinda surprised hes not demanding out honestly kudos to him i guess.

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link

did anyone smile at suns media day?

New threads for media day.@DevinBook 🔸 @Suns pic.twitter.com/sVv7UL88Qb

— Bally Sports Arizona (@BALLYSPORTSAZ) September 26, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 22:58 (one year ago) link

I mean he’s def gonna average 6 turnovers in 29 mpg and shoot 24% from 3 but shit man it’s just a job xp

Clay, Monday, 26 September 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

quiet quitting russ is the only relatable version of russ

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link

sure there may be a little tension around the water cooler but ill tell you one thing im gonna show up every day and dribble the ball

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link

haha

Spottie, Monday, 26 September 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link

Anthony Davis says he's not putting pressure on himself to be what people *think* he should be, like "some Greek God." Then sits with that a moment, and adds that he doesn't mean Giannis.

— Kyle Goon (@kylegoon) September 26, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link

lol self own

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

walton was just a hippy, kat is just lame?

― Spottie, Monday, September 26, 2022 5:56 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

i don't honestly think the vibes are bad internally on the team though, i don't get the sense he doesn't get along w/teammates or anything

but he is a weirdo

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

lmao AD

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

Ball says his knee is also bothering him in everyday life, not just basketball. He's having trouble walking up stairs. Said the surgery will be to figure out what's going on with his knee.

"This will be my third surgery, so I don't really want to rush anything"

— Jamal Collier (@JamalCollier) September 27, 2022



poor guy. what a mess

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 September 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

brutal

Spottie, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

he turns 25 in a month, man

Clay, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

His knees turned 75 last month.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

damn

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

oh no

Deandre Ayton was asked how he and Monty Williams have moved on and Ayton said he hasn’t talked to Williams “at all ever since the game.”

— Kellan Olson (@KellanOlson) September 27, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

being a guy who is just going to work is trending

Ayton was asked if he is happy here and he said “Yeah, I’m alright. When I’m inbetween those lines now I just work. I’m not playing for myself. I have an organization across my chest and a name on my back I have to represent. I’m just here to work, man.”

— Kellan Olson (@KellanOlson) September 27, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

video

Deandre Ayton said he and Monty Williams have not spoken about their sideline incident in Game 7: pic.twitter.com/Z9rHYHr5yX

— Gerald Bourguet (@GeraldBourguet) September 27, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link

lol check out the longer version tho

Deandre Ayton said he and Monty Williams haven't spoken since Game 7 of Suns-Mavs series. #Suns pic.twitter.com/rdVJll9LYn

— Duane Rankin (@DuaneRankin) September 27, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

i forgot about the sideline incident can someone refresh me

Clay, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

monty yoinked him in the game 7 and was basically like 'you quit on the team' and they havent spoken since. which is weird cos like they've been together for a couple days now in training camp is back? super weird of monty imo whos supposedly a players coach?

Spottie, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

hm yeah coach has got to "be a leader" for better or worse

Clay, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

windhorst said on his pod that most of the suns have been back in phoenix for a while now. it’s bizarre.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link

i'm totally okay with 'i'm just here to work' as long as no one mentions having to put food on the table for their family

mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

remember when george bush said you work hard to put food on your family lol classic gaffe that guy had the touch

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

classic guy you'd love to have a beer with

mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link

reporter: "deandre, are you still upset about getting pulled from game 7?"

ayton: "fool me once, shame on me. fool me twice, won't get fooled again"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

i beg you folks not to misunderestimate deandre ayton

Clay, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

maybe it’s just a deandre ayton problem but all the stuff about monty williams being the great player and chemistry whisperer of the NBA not really holding up

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 September 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link

literally laughing at bush gaffes hadnt thought about them in so long lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

coach bush sez 'is our children hooping'? a: yes, mission accomplished

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link

btw vibe check...immaculate

Running toward basketball szn like... 🏀 pic.twitter.com/Pkg0dM1eMN

— Cleveland Cavaliers (@cavs) September 27, 2022

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

cute

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

"To be straight, I'm not going to talk about this anymore cause it just doesn't make sense to keep talking about one guy after one game. We lost Game 7."

Monty Williams addressing him and Deandre Ayton haven't not talked since Game 7 of #Suns-#Mavs series Phoenix lost, 123-90.

— Duane Rankin (@DuaneRankin) September 27, 2022

does it make sense to talk to one guy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

normal stuff

Spottie, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link

Suns should produce a fake NBA 2k23 that is an rpg of dialogue trees with a single goal of increasing the Vibe Meter

put their faith in a god-fearing man selling them tiny homes (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

Do the suns have the worst vibes ever

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 03:31 (one year ago) link

Photographer: Alright. Everyone smile! 😁

DA: 😑 pic.twitter.com/jVieFHO01o

— BK (@blakekimball) September 27, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 03:46 (one year ago) link

now this is not gonna be fun

had ayton and monty talked before this photo was taken?

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 September 2022 04:09 (one year ago) link

anyone having league pass issues? it wanted to charge me like 500 bucks to renew league pass premium

k3vin k., Wednesday, 28 September 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

Suns should produce a fake NBA 2k23 that is an rpg of dialogue trees with a single goal of increasing the Vibe Meter

― put their faith in a god-fearing man selling them tiny homes (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, September 27, 2022 8:37 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

they would only do this if it allowed you to play as Jake from State Farm

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

this is really interesting. softball "how did you end up on the timberwolvess" softball question to a potential end of the bench player ends up being a really frank talk about the mental health issues and stress of being a marginal journeyman player, Paschall talks about how he wasn't getting calls and having mental health issues and thinking of giving up basketball altogether

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orQxavrF1lE

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

yah thats good thx for posting. gotta be hard to go from being the guy everywhere you're whole life to barely hanging on in the league

Spottie, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

kawhi looks extremely stiff (and thicc)

Kawhi doing Kawhi things. pic.twitter.com/qNALr9vAIJ

— LA Clippers (@LAClippers) September 28, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

Yeah all the replies seem super impressed at him....jogging and taking an uncontested jumper

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

might be time for espn to update their win projection model

ESPN’s Stat-based win projections for the West:

1. PHX - 49
2. DEN - 47.9
3. NOP - 47.6
4. MEM - 46.1
5. MIN - 45.7
6. LAC - 43.6
7. DAL - 43.1
8. GSW - 41.9
9. LAL - 36.8
10. POR - 36.6

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) September 29, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 29 September 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

Warriors at under .500!

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Thursday, 29 September 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

i could see memphis and minny maybe LA and pdx being about right, everything else there is pretty weird??

Clay, Thursday, 29 September 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

the model doesn't know what's going on w/ the suns & shorting the warriors is prob not a bad idea tho to the degree of under .500 is prob a bit extra. the thing is that all these teams in projections and at the end of the season are going to be separated by like 2 games in any direction so what needs to happen (random injuries) for the projections to be off is pretty small

J0rdan S., Thursday, 29 September 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

block buster

ESPN Sources: The Oklahoma City Thunder are trading Derrick Favors, Ty Jerome, Moe Harkless, Theo Maledon and a 2025 second-round pick via Atlanta to the Houston Rockets for David Nwaba, Sterling Brown, Trey Burke and Marquese Chriss.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 30, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 30 September 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link

wonder why espn stats thinks the dubs are going to fall off, just age maybe, i mean they were +5.5 last year with a bunch of injuries, think they mightve even won the chip too

lag∞n, Friday, 30 September 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link

ESPN noticed that Gary Payton II left GSW and made adjustments accordingly?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 30 September 2022 01:42 (one year ago) link

that okc/houston trade rules

call all destroyer, Friday, 30 September 2022 01:45 (one year ago) link

After a trade like that you have to wonder which of the players involved won't be in the league at the start of the season.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 30 September 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link

the perfect trade

ciderpress, Friday, 30 September 2022 04:59 (one year ago) link

Free agent Blake Griffin has agreed to a one-year, fully guaranteed deal with the Boston Celtics, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 30, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 30 September 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link

the perfect free agent signing

ciderpress, Friday, 30 September 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

cant wait to cheer on the many thunderous dunks

lag∞n, Friday, 30 September 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

wonder why espn stats thinks the dubs are going to fall off, just age maybe, i mean they were +5.5 last year with a bunch of injuries, think they mightve even won the chip too


Win projections for next season seem insanely conservative across the board

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 30 September 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

projections are always tighter around .500 than seems possible but yeah doesnt seem like it has any confidence in any teams this year

ciderpress, Friday, 30 September 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

suns are down 20 at halftime to... an australian basketball team

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 03:18 (one year ago) link

12, rather

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 03:19 (one year ago) link

thats still bad imo

in other news the spurs lost by almost 40 to the rockets, they are gonna be so bad this year lmao

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 3 October 2022 03:20 (one year ago) link

its not a strong roster

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 03:21 (one year ago) link

on this forum we value strength

Clay, Monday, 3 October 2022 03:33 (one year ago) link

theyve got a lot of good role players and absolutely no shot creators or playmakers

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 3 October 2022 03:34 (one year ago) link

bison just close your eyes and picture the headlines one year from now about how excited tim duncan is to mentor victor wembanyama and have him carry on the spurs tradition

J0rdan S., Monday, 3 October 2022 04:03 (one year ago) link

im still kinda sad that pop didnt bow out when timmy retired

Spottie, Monday, 3 October 2022 04:05 (one year ago) link

It’s just an exhibition game… But the Adelaide 36ers just beat the Phoenix Suns 134-124. Perimeter defense will likely be a thing of emphasis for the Suns as Adelaide made 24 of 43 3-pointers. The 36ers play in The National Basketball League based in Australia and New Zealand.

— Marc J. Spears (@MarcJSpears) October 3, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 3 October 2022 04:48 (one year ago) link

they should be in the nba now and the suns should be in the Australian league

Clay, Monday, 3 October 2022 04:55 (one year ago) link

just chris paul tho

Spottie, Monday, 3 October 2022 05:01 (one year ago) link

It appears the Adelaide 36ers are the first non-NBA team to win a preseason game (134-124 at the Phoenix Suns) in the U.S. since Fenerbahce beat Brooklyn in October 2015: https://t.co/GY8GDYGj1B

— Kevin Pelton (@kpelton) October 3, 2022



Adelaide is also apparently the first team based outside of Europe to win a preseason game against an NBA team in the period tracked by @nbastats (back to the 2005-06 preseason).

— Kevin Pelton (@kpelton) October 3, 2022

J0rdan S., Monday, 3 October 2022 05:14 (one year ago) link

if i was a betting person id be smashing the under on suns wins. has a team with this poor of vibes heading into a season been able to beat their odds?

Spottie, Monday, 3 October 2022 05:57 (one year ago) link

also assuming crowder is indeed done there they have prob the biggest chasm between the starting 5 and bench of any team in the league. their sixth best player is… shamet? saric? i just don’t like their roster. james jones is not good at his job

J0rdan S., Monday, 3 October 2022 06:28 (one year ago) link

Devin Booker just posted a screenshot from this LeBron press conference 👀

(h/t @AhnFireDigital) pic.twitter.com/eoIiB1gXJF

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) October 3, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 3 October 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

yeah xp their roster after 1-5 is quite bad. they really shoulda blitzed to get bojan

Spottie, Monday, 3 October 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

wow i have not heard about this potential trade before this is compelling info

The Lakers 'seriously considered' sending Russell Westbrook and their two unprotected first-round picks (2027 and 2029) to the Pacers for Myles Turner and Buddy Hield, per @ShamsCharania, @jovanbuha and @sam_amick

Rob Pelinka chose to "remain patient" to see how L.A. jells pic.twitter.com/fa5KFg4X6m

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) October 3, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

man that era of lebron press conferences was so wild lmao

J0rdan S., Monday, 3 October 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

why are they dragging this out lol xp

Spottie, Monday, 3 October 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

man that era of lebron press conferences was so wild lmao

― J0rdan S., Monday, October 3, 2022 10:04 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

he was going through it for sure.

Spottie, Monday, 3 October 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

they either need to make the trade or come up with new trade ideas

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

somebody should trade for those two players. just not sure it should be the lakers. and def not for two unprotected picks

J0rdan S., Monday, 3 October 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

the fact that the mavs went into the offseason with the singular goal of only acquiring centers and apparently did not ever attempt to get myles turner remains extremely confusing to me

J0rdan S., Monday, 3 October 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

indys just sitting around waiting for russ to become a problem

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

the mavs really need hardaway to be good coming off an acl tear.

Spottie, Monday, 3 October 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

even putting the brunson stuff aside their offseason was bizarre

J0rdan S., Monday, 3 October 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

i feel like i watched a different playoffs than their front office idk. their whole second half push was a combo of having small mobile centers who could make their defense fully switchable and two guards to go along w/ luka who could shoot and get their own shot. so their offseason plan was to sign two traditional centers and not replace brunson. got it

J0rdan S., Monday, 3 October 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

i am pretty skeptical that their ex-nike guy front office has any idea what they're doing

call all destroyer, Monday, 3 October 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link

yeah. i wonder. the zinger trade turned out to be a complete heist but was also probably just been blind luck

J0rdan S., Monday, 3 October 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

what happened to kat?

Karl-Anthony Towns didn't go into deep detail about what he's been through, but said he only started walking again after his non-covid illness on Saturday. He's down to 231 pounds. But says he feels good to be back out on the court and is ramping back up.

— Jon Krawczynski (@JonKrawczynski) October 3, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 3 October 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

wtf. he is cursed.

call all destroyer, Monday, 3 October 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

well at least they traded for a guy who plays his position

J0rdan S., Monday, 3 October 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

If the illness was "on Saturday" it sounds like food poisoning and puking his guts out.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 3 October 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

Karl-Anthony Towns didn't go into details about his illness, but said he was in the hospital. Cleared to just walk again Saturday. When asked if he was worried about missing camp, the season, he said: "There was more drastic things to worry about than basketball at that moment."

— Chris Hine (@ChristopherHine) October 3, 2022

Cleared to walk doesn't sound good

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 October 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

sounds like really bad food poisoning

J0rdan S., Monday, 3 October 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

vs philly (in bk)

Nash says KD, Kyrie and Simmons will play around 15-20 minutes tonight.

— Nick Friedell (@NickFriedell) October 3, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

ah seems like the international league pass/vpn set up has been nuked sucks rip

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

rip. its all been downhill since ballstreams died anyway

Spottie, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

it was nice to pay 35 brazilian reals a month but it was even nicer to actually get all the games

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

rip the halcyon days of the tream, seems like a lifetime ago

Clay, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

calm down its only preseason!

Ben Simmons misses both FTs while getting booed in his own home arena

— Mike Vorkunov (@MikeVorkunov) October 4, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

Ben Simmons with the turnaround fadeaway: pic.twitter.com/JbKEf9dqXF

— Kevin Kinkead (@Kevin_Kinkead) October 4, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

ah nice very good

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

tbh sorta feeling like the only thing worse than endless coverage of ben simmons not playing is endless coverage of ben simmons actually playing

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

he should try the dunk shot

Spottie, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

wambayana...just doesn't look real.

America, say hello to Victor Wembanyama. pic.twitter.com/ENHQXxwyoo

— Marc J. Spears (@MarcJSpears) October 3, 2022

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link

*wembanyama idk what i was doing with that spelling lol

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link

cgi giant

Clay, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link

i really thought wed never see another body like brandon ingram but this dude has taken it to even another level

Spottie, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link

the guys

1995-96 Sonics honored during the timeout. Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton, Sam Perkins and Detlef Schempf are all here. pic.twitter.com/I3Hp4D2QBc

— Kevin Pelton (@kpelton) October 4, 2022

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 03:32 (one year ago) link

ay guys

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 13:09 (one year ago) link

sad

https://i.imgur.com/gXHMh9M.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link

ESPN has unveiled a "revitalized" brand identity for its NBA coverage, including new theme music: pic.twitter.com/sfhLO4QuTo

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) October 4, 2022

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

that's wack. how do we get roundball rock back

ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

nfl films music is a scourge

Clay, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

so is espn's parent corporation

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

theme music sounds like a budget rap beat from 20 years ago

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

haha was just coming here to type ROYALTY FREE SWIZZ BEATS TYPE BEAT

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

roundball rock is my only music

lol i knew you would have a better description

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

It's so terrible.

and I happen to know that there were some much better themes in contention, the corporate process always results in the lowest common denominator choice, smh

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

OMG, i knew it

oof yeah do not like this

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

they honestly should drop a bag and get roundball rock. it's completely wasted on fox. way too good of a theme to soundtrack a regular season game between seton hall and pitt.

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

they should hire john tesh to make a new song, roundball house

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

espn nba coverage continues to baffle

Spottie, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

he’s busy making the new football theme, oblong ball blues

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

everything he does just looks cartoon

Victor Wembanyama with the one dribble pull-up 3 off the screen 👀🎯pic.twitter.com/phVTxbNv0O

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) October 5, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 02:30 (one year ago) link

spicy, could get weird when lebron beats the record

Sensational pic.twitter.com/JvGfNdYo4x

— myles brown (@mdotbrown) October 4, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 03:02 (one year ago) link

lebron may eventually be crowned as the all-time greatest player, but kareem is easily the better person.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 03:06 (one year ago) link

hell tell you about it too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 03:15 (one year ago) link

lebron may eventually be crowned as the all-time greatest player, but kareem is easily the better person.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, October 4, 2022 11:06 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

aimless, honest to god i try not to do this, but what in the world makes you think you are capable of pronouncing "the better person" between two professional basketball players you have never met?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 03:22 (one year ago) link

both players have put themselves on extensive public view for multiple decades, answered tens of thousands of questions posed to them, and in kareem's case has published in-depth articles outlining his thoughts on many public issues far beyond basketball. so just call it a hunch.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 03:29 (one year ago) link

i found it interesting that kareem shouted out lebron in his kyrie takedown from a couple days ago

Kyrie Irving would be dismissed as a comical buffoon if it weren’t for his influence over young people who look up to athletes. When I look at some of the athletes who have used their status to actually improve society—Colin Kaepernick, LeBron James, Muhammad Ali, Bill Russel, Billie Jean King, Arthur Ashe, and more—it becomes clear how much Irving has tarnished the reputations of all athletes who strive to be seen as more than dumb jocks.

Spottie, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 03:45 (one year ago) link

suspect he just did not want to talk about that piece

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 03:50 (one year ago) link

yeah hes still recruiting kyrie.

in other news my twitter feed is 95% Webanyama highlights right now.

Spottie, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 03:50 (one year ago) link

he is a ridiculous tall young man

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 03:51 (one year ago) link

the other 5% is Ho You Fat screenshots

Spottie, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 03:54 (one year ago) link

The arc on Wembanyama's shot is ridiculous.

Kim Wipers - Youth in America (Leee), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 04:19 (one year ago) link

feels pretty safe to say there’s never been a guy of that height with a shot that pretty

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 October 2022 05:12 (one year ago) link

KAT will be abdicating his self appointed “best shooting big man ever” throne while he’s still on his next contract

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 October 2022 05:13 (one year ago) link

serious answer as a replacement for that shitty theme music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nmJp8BVJDM

aimless when are your nba "good person" power rankings coming out?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 12:36 (one year ago) link

Pls post I don't subscribe to The Athletic :(

i need to put some clouds behind the reaper (PBKR), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link

this is scoot hendersons second year in the g league via reclassifying after his junior high school year making him too young to get drafted last year, hes gonna be like a euro with multiple seasons of pro ball before he gets to the nba

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

btw looks like the nba is prepping to go back to drafting high schoolers, guess they figure they have better development resources now with the g league and whatnot

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

which sets the table for AN INSANE DOUBLE DRAFT

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

my kareem story is that he was on the list at a central park show where i was working the door and it took two wristbands taped together to fit around his forearm. when he walked into the venue to head to the VIP, literally everyone within sight stood and spontaneously started applauding for him, just a wave of people giving a standing ovation for his existence. he gave a little wave or two but the general sense was this was his regular sunday afternoon.

it is a delightful experience to see a very tall celebrity

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

Scoot Henderson has an unreal maturity to his game, never seen anything like it

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

its crazy how advanced some young players are these days the whole development situation has come so far

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

not trying to take anything away from scoot i tip my cap to him

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

Dray and Poole got into a fight at practice. Dray might get disciplined lol. 70+ wins incoming

Spottie, Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

When a chest-to-chest interaction with guard Jordan Poole escalated, Green forcefully struck Poole and both needed to be separated swiftly, sources said.

Developing story at @TheAthletic: https://t.co/OYQ9WJFJtd https://t.co/FBsYpnBXq5

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) October 6, 2022

call all destroyer, Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link

love to forcefully strike when interaction escalates

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link

to me it feels like draymond is gonna be on a new team next year

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link

to me it feels like draymond is gonna be on a new team next year

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link

do it now trade him somewhere terrible we need the data

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 02:07 (one year ago) link

Nets please

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2022 02:07 (one year ago) link

lmao he would punch every player on that team before the all star break

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link

i’m fascinated as to what his market is gonna be in FA…

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

He seems like a guy the Sixers will pick up when he's totally washed.

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Thursday, 6 October 2022 02:17 (one year ago) link

he would be so weird on every team, he both fits everywhere and nowhere

Clay, Thursday, 6 October 2022 02:25 (one year ago) link

who has the biggest need for a guy who makes a podcast after every game

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 October 2022 02:58 (one year ago) link

it sucks that draymond's bullying always gets a pass, i can't stand him

call all destroyer, Thursday, 6 October 2022 03:17 (one year ago) link

draymond mad that pooles getting paid reducing the chances that he does?

Draymond Green was apologetic in aftermath of the altercation with Jordan Poole, but there was a buildup stemming from teammates noticing a change in Poole’s behavior throughout camp with the guard on the verge of securing a lucrative extension, league sources tell @YahooSports.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) October 6, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 04:22 (one year ago) link

What we not gone do is talk crazy about my young fella JP… great character kid… miss me with all that other bs… straight from the “SOURCE”

— andre (@andre) October 6, 2022


And it’s family business with my bro @Money23Green too…

— andre (@andre) October 6, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 6 October 2022 04:44 (one year ago) link

dray and poole have gone at it before.

Spottie, Thursday, 6 October 2022 04:47 (one year ago) link

this spin is predictable but if the dubs really do suspend him they’re making their POV on it clear

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 04:51 (one year ago) link

haynes is a klutch shill right?

Spottie, Thursday, 6 October 2022 04:54 (one year ago) link

i love that pooles always been willing to stand up to dray and fire back at him. i dont really think there's much to this but i guess you never know

Spottie, Thursday, 6 October 2022 04:56 (one year ago) link

lol

https://i.imgur.com/g0AWBIr.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

Bob Myers said that Draymond Green apologized to the Warriors this morning, but he did not practice with the team. Myers says Green’s punishment will be dealt with internally.

— Kendra Andrews (@kendra__andrews) October 6, 2022

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link

the rug sweep

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link

alright man. pic.twitter.com/zn8mmw4zPS

— Steve Jones Jr. (@stevejones20) October 6, 2022



insane wembanyama

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

I’ll never believe this dude is real

Clay, Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

he was considered to have potential as a shooter but wasnt actually that good, until now i guess

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

every team should tank

Clay, Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

yeah hollinger was saying his shooting stats weren’t actually good in his league but he was what 17? who cares

Oh just a 7-foot-5 dude pulling up from 30+ feet… pic.twitter.com/TBwTrk2w9M

— Tommy Beer (@TommyBeer) October 6, 2022

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

Omg.

Face up, spin pivot into an unstoppable fadeaway on the next trip down the floor.

C’mon man WTF pic.twitter.com/PHXGXAUl9V

— Tommy Beer (@TommyBeer) October 6, 2022



this is basically like what if they combined kevin durant and evan mobley and then tacked on an extra 5 inches. just crazy

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

if you watch his highlight packages most of the offense is lobs put backs and so forth, not sure where all of this is coming from, but it looks pretty good lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link

that fadeaway from the corner is nuts, the kind of play you draw up with 1.3 seconds left down three points in desperation.

Spottie, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

if he can actually hit jumpers like this in the NBA he will be quite literally unguardable

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

yeah like 90% of nba players have no chance of contesting his shot theyre just not in the picture

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:12 (one year ago) link

hollinger was making the point that if he's more of a big than a wing he will have to get stronger and develop post moves or else he will be susceptible to being guarded by smaller players (i.e. the porzingis problem). but if he can just shoot over anyone/everyone from anywhere on the court at different angles at a 50%ish rate then there's just nothing you can do

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

yeah zinger is his closest comp right? pre acl zinger did some pretty sweet stuff like this.

Spottie, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

hes like zinger if hed been doing yoga daily since he was 13

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

and had longer limbs

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link

right exactly. if you go back and watch early zinger he was obv a better athlete than post knee injury but he was still kind of a stiff. he had that real upright walking on stilts aspect to him. wembanyama moves around like he's 6' 7"

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link

also he's gonna get stronger and bigger as he gets into his 20s, i don't want to think about it bc he's not real

Clay, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

every team that's not tanking is dumb though

Clay, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

yeah zinger is his closest comp right? pre acl zinger did some pretty sweet stuff like this.

― Spottie, Thursday, October 6, 2022 5:16 PM (nine minutes ago)

hollinger (on his pod w/ nate duncan) was saying that ralph sampson was the closest comp. i'm not familiar w/ his game but he was a phenom for many of the same reasons as wembanyama, in terms of size and skill. obv it was a whole different game then so in some ways hard to compare but that one felt like a good comp to me. the one thing hollinger said about sampson is that he was known to be kinda soft where wembanyama seems to have the competitive fire you need to be an all time great

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link

imagine if someone had coached sampson to play like wembanyama does, the nba prob wouldve had to shut down

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link

poole v golden state warriors

Bringing back this Klay Thompson quote after news of Draymond Green's altercation with Jordan Poole came out. pic.twitter.com/q0Ik5ZvVa2

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) October 6, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link

lol great graphic

Spottie, Thursday, 6 October 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

i mean, something is gonna give between the warriors and klay, draymond, poole, wiggins etc. they're gonna have to shed a $100m+ contract from their payroll at some point.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 October 2022 23:43 (one year ago) link

yeah seems like theyre ok playing the huge tax bill as long as theyre competing but im sure theyre thinking about how to not have all that on the books once the team ages out, maybe they can give dray a big two year deal or something

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

also seems unlikely management has real warm personal feelings towards him that might lead them to throw him a bone for old times sake

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 23:47 (one year ago) link

this is not that great tbh

Draymond’s punch on Jordan Poole pic.twitter.com/lsvlCUwZcC

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) October 7, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

love to punch on my teammates

k3vin k., Friday, 7 October 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

he sucker punched him, weak shit

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

he got him too that was not some little jab

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

Dang that was a hard punch

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 October 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link

draymond has to be this way in order to maintain his edge

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

what a piece of shit

call all destroyer, Friday, 7 October 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

Yikes

Spottie, Friday, 7 October 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

suspension incoming

moullet, Friday, 7 October 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

Yah that’s a worse than expected. Could be the end of the line for this squad not really sure how they get through this

Spottie, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

yeah thats about as bad as possible, was picturing some little squabble

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

guess he couldve snuck up and punched him in the back of the head but whatever, hard to say what the fallout will be, maybe poole is chill abt this sort of thing but seems like him and dray already arent great friends so who knows, maybe they just power through it for the good of the business, whatre they gonna do trade him idk

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

why didnt he punched poole in the playoffs? fuck

we would had a celtics championship rn

moullet, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

if i had to guess a substantial suspension for dray 5-10 games and then try to move forward

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

Yah but I don’t see how Dray has any voice in the locker room any more. He’s supposed to mentoring all the young guys. He just cost himself a lot of money off that contract talk too. Poole could easily say him or me. Just a lot of things that can happen from here and everyone just moving on and locking back in seems very unlikely

Spottie, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

its a fraught situation for sure, i wonder how much this changes his rep amongst the guys tho, i mean hes a famous loose cannon

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

tho on the other hand he did pretty clearly cross a line, you dont want to have to worry about being sucker punched every time you go to work

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link

guess a lot depends on where pooles at, managements ability to finesse the situation, how sick management is of dray, but ultimately their championship aspirations are done without him so i say they probably just try to make it work, tho maybe theres a path forward if they trade him and a young guy idk

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

trade poole and not dray lol that would be some sick shit

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

maybe no one on the team thinks its that big of a deal more of a these things happen type situ

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:28 (one year ago) link

this was some ugly pr btw

Draymond Green was apologetic in aftermath of the altercation with Jordan Poole, but there was a buildup stemming from teammates noticing a change in Poole’s behavior throughout camp with the guard on the verge of securing a lucrative extension, league sources tell @YahooSports.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) October 6, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

I don’t think it’ll be a big deal…they just won a championship

k3vin k., Friday, 7 October 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link

what about the vibes tho

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

so many teams in turmoil

symsymsym, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

poole punched for flexing too hard smh

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 October 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

breaking: haters mad

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 October 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

btw feeling better about the celtics turmoil after watching a couple preseason games, the udoka situation doesnt seem to have affected the vibes, obvs still a lot of questions re if the new coaching will be good, and then injury stuff too, but they were totally rolling

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

obviously a coach was different but last year when gerson rosas got fired everyone was like oh no wolves in turmoil and i'm not sure any of the players really cared either way, does feel like outside speculation can overestimate the impact of that stuff

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 October 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

yeah celtics just had an insanely bad lead up to the season between injuries and scandal, it was worrying, and still is tbf, just less so, maybe

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link

i dont want to get too CELTICS 2010 in here but brogdon is looking like a pretty nice fit

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link

brogdon is a guy who would fit on basically any team

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 October 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

its true, but specifically he seems to be addressing some vital celtics shortcomings in backcourt shooting and playmaking, although he actually hasnt shot well so far but we do know that he can shoot

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

wonder if kerr has the footage of jordan punching him and has been sitting on it waiting for this moment to be able to show a player and say "see? nbd, we move"

Spottie, Friday, 7 October 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

lol he should release it

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

Draymond is tryna get to LA.
Damn ! 😳

— Trae Young (@TheTraeYoung) October 7, 2022



i’m all in on the draymond klutch lakers conspiracy theory moving forward, thank you trae. elderly lebron teaming up with decrepit $100 million draymond sounds like an amazing next chapter for the lakers

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 October 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

fair

Who leaked this to TMZ, and why? pic.twitter.com/qUuI49swKb

— philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) October 7, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link

based on what we know about what sports teams pay low level staffers, prob someone who tripled their yearly salary selling that video

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 October 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

players chiming in

There is no way you can get back to being teammates after a punch like that.

— Evan Fournier (@EvanFourmizz) October 7, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 7 October 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

based on what we know about what sports teams pay low level staffers, prob someone who tripled their yearly salary selling that video

― J0rdan S., Friday, October 7, 2022 9:51 AM (six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

def seems like a $250k video

Spottie, Friday, 7 October 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

the way NBA players use twitter is one of the joys of the league

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 October 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

based on what we know about what sports teams pay low level staffers, prob someone who tripled their yearly salary selling that video

― J0rdan S., Friday, October 7, 2022 12:51 PM (thirty-three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

probably, and the fact that tmz a place willing to pay got it makes that scenario basically fact, BUT its not hard to think of reasons management would want that video out there

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

idk it makes them look pretty bad. i don't think they really needed much of a pretense to suspend draymond, not re-sign him etc

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 October 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

i dont really consider this a true sucker punch. they were facing eachother and poole pushed him, its a sucker punch just not like a blindside thing that i usually associate with a sucker punch. i wanna know what poole said tho cos he's gotten under drays skin with quick words before

Spottie, Friday, 7 October 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

i dont think mgmt leaked that. they all look worse after the pressers from yesterday now

Spottie, Friday, 7 October 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

i think its a sucker punch in that poole had no idea it was coming, and sure poole pushed him but dray completely got in his face basically walked over there and attacked him, if this had all gone down in say a bar with a stranger the read might be different but in the context that it happened poole just had no thought that he was about to get decked

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

idk it makes them look pretty bad. i don't think they really needed much of a pretense to suspend draymond, not re-sign him etc

― J0rdan S., Friday, October 7, 2022 12:56 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk im sure dubs fans have very strong feelings about their guys, also what if theyre gonna trade him, tbh i dont think this is whats happening... but maybe

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

i think its a sucker punch in that poole had no idea it was coming, and sure poole pushed him but dray completely got in his face basically walked over there and attacked him, if this had all gone down in say a bar with a stranger the read might be different but in the context that it happened poole just had no thought that he was about to get decked

― lag∞n, Friday, October 7, 2022 10:01 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

agree, just not really my definition of a sucker punch but semantics or w/e

Spottie, Friday, 7 October 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

it’s hard to say if it was a sucker punch without knowing what he said. draymond was in front of him so it’s not a classic sucker punch per se but if what poole said was fairly innocuous then maybe it rises to that level. but there are some things you can say to someone and if they punch you it’s kinda on you

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 October 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

draymond coming out yesterday and saying “it’s family business”… i wonder if poole agrees with that

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 October 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

its true we do need to know what he said, fwiw it doesnt seem like he thinks he said something totally over the line

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

that was iggy that said that xp

Spottie, Friday, 7 October 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

maybe he told him he shoots threes like hes wearing a backpack

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

Or "if you punch like you shoot, I bet you can't hit me."

Kim Wipers - Youth in America (Leee), Friday, 7 October 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

Draymond is tryna get to LA.
Damn ! 😳

— Trae Young (@TheTraeYoung) October 7, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

wtf were the kicks doing to each other

Listen this Draymond thing is nothing! Good thing footage never got out of our Knicks practices and locker room that was real pressure 😂🤐

— Chris Childs (@ChrisChilds001) October 7, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link

you know you fucked up when rudy gobert is talking shit

Insecurity is always loud.

— Rudy Gobert (@rudygobert27) October 7, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 7 October 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

Lol Rudy been waiting

Spottie, Friday, 7 October 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link

when is dray gonna 'cast about this

Clay, Friday, 7 October 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

I’m sure it will be a while before they figure it all out can’t imagine he says anything for a while

Spottie, Friday, 7 October 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link

marcus thompson https://theathletic.com/3668957/2022/10/07/draymond-green-video-thompson

Green must be going through something. It’s the only thing that makes sense. He has too much at stake to lose control now, and this isn’t the heat of the playoffs where he is required to be on edge. What’s more, he has been a model teammate and leader since the team reunited — which was a bit surprising considering he didn’t get the extension he wanted. He seemed up for the task of proving his worth and defending the title despite the disappointment of not getting the contract he believes he deserves.

feel like this could be about trying to be a good citizen and suppress his resentment at not getting the extension then poole started talking about it and he snapped

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

hes an extremely expressive person its not in his nature to bottle things up like that

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link

it does seem like that's what it is but it's a tough look when you've already made $155 million dollars playing basketball and you're begrudging your young teammate's first big contract.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 October 2022 01:55 (one year ago) link

yeah not excusing it its super weak shit just trying to do some amateur psychology

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 01:57 (one year ago) link

im sure a lot of it for dray is he feels disrespected by the org that he won all those rings for

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link

i'm sure draymond never talks trash or needles his teammates

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 8 October 2022 02:00 (one year ago) link

the org that he won all those rings for

i heard it's a team sport

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 8 October 2022 02:02 (one year ago) link

idk man youll have to talk to him

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link

im sure a lot of it for dray is he feels disrespected by the org that he won all those rings for

― lag∞n, Friday, October 7, 2022 9:58 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah definitely, i do feel like this is the clearest sign yet that he's going to end his career as a very ineffective player on another team

call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 October 2022 02:04 (one year ago) link

yeah if they didnt want to extend him before this its hard to imagine them doing it now

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

def had the thought that lashing out like that on his own dudes could be a sign of frustration at his own dwindling skills, he's not going to be happy when it starts to go (and it has started to go)

Clay, Saturday, 8 October 2022 02:06 (one year ago) link

rough sitch many feelings all around

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 02:16 (one year ago) link

Million ways this can go and the majority of them lead to “not good”

Spottie, Saturday, 8 October 2022 02:47 (one year ago) link

Celtics must be thanking their damned stars for this shit lol

To me, this story is about "punching up" vs. "punching down"... I prefer when Draymond punches tall people

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 8 October 2022 04:17 (one year ago) link

Sixers report: Maxey has picked up right where he left off last year. He's scored 41 points in 29 first half minutes on 15-for-19 shooting. He’s gone 5 for 7 from three-point range. Supposedly he worked on a mid-range game in the offseason.

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Saturday, 8 October 2022 12:01 (one year ago) link

I wonder if this affects Draymond's tv career?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 8 October 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link

idk...barkley is a tv fixture and he threw a guy through a plate glass window, different circumstances obv

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 8 October 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

he should fight shaq for right to be the annoying guy on inside the nba

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link

shaq himself punched a mummy in the second world

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 8 October 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link

draymond presser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdIi3vmfyHU

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

oh thats actually not the whole thing

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link

this has the beginning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCQO5Hr20Mc

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

hes taking some time away from the team what does this mean he says he hopes to be back for the ring ceremony whos decision is that is he suspended or what whats goin on here folks

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

it’s really bizarre

feels like they’re scrambling after the video came out bcuz they had no intention of punishing him in any real way

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 October 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link

yeah, wonder who had seen the video before it got out

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

Warriors coach Steve Kerr said Saturday that there is “no set date” for Green’s return and that it was a “mutual decision” for Green to briefly step away.

“We’ll see,” Kerr said when asked what actions he would like to see from Green to mend the turbulence. “Things will play out. There’s no predicting anything. Things have to play out and you just keep moving forward.”

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 22:58 (one year ago) link

weird approach to not mention expected conduct standards, discipline etc

micah, Saturday, 8 October 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

they are def very mad the video got out, which is fair its a violation for sure, both dray and kerr were pretty pointed about that part

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link

“In 32 years, I’ve probably seen 20-plus fistfights. It should not make it out of our walls,” Kerr said. “We need to be better.”

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link

not sure i would deem that one a fistfight, which might be the thing kerr is missing here

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 October 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link

guys who leaked it walking around whistling like thats crazy wow who do you think did it

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link

sure kerr can go ahead and be upset that it leaked but don't expect the public to be sympathetic

micah, Saturday, 8 October 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

yeah we want to see that shit

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 October 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link

I’m confused, why are we mad at kerr? the warriors will deal with it however they want, dray will get a slap on the wrist or a couple of games or something, it’s their business really

k3vin k., Saturday, 8 October 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link

wow steve kerrs burner over here

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 October 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link

being all indignant that the video got out is a pretty weak cya attempt given that the video totally undermines their attempt to minimize what actually happened and let draymond skate with no consequences

call all destroyer, Sunday, 9 October 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link

I took a drink every time he said "quite frankly" and now I'm Nicholas Cage in Leaving Las Vegas

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 9 October 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

its very much "sorrry i got caught". nagl

micah, Sunday, 9 October 2022 01:13 (one year ago) link

I found it to be sincere.

Spottie, Sunday, 9 October 2022 02:07 (one year ago) link

i did too, it wasnt any sort of perfect performance of contrition or whatever but what do u want i dont think he ever claimed to be an expert

lag∞n, Sunday, 9 October 2022 02:58 (one year ago) link

he really stressed that Poole's whole family should be embarrassed rn

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 9 October 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

thought he might reveal he leaked the video himself after saying how embarrassed Poole's second and third cousins should feel now

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 9 October 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

Just got tix for my wife and I to take her nephew (massive Sixers fan) and his gf to the BOS game in Philly in February. Very excited.

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Monday, 10 October 2022 02:00 (one year ago) link

nice, that should be great

call all destroyer, Monday, 10 October 2022 02:06 (one year ago) link

Excellent choice pkbr.

Meanwhile jp is still fun w the ball

Jordan Poole too smooth 🤧 pic.twitter.com/jvEHECK2t2

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) October 10, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 10 October 2022 04:19 (one year ago) link

ok my work is having a lottery for the company Wolves tickets and I have first pick - what do you guys think? I'm leaning either MKE or Golden State just to see Giannis or Curry play

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Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

that 3/15 game is looking pretty good

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

sunday matinee warriors would be a nice little outing

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

i’d get an early season game, better chance of being able to see those guys play

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

Well, maybe not Draymond.

Kim Wipers - Youth in America (Leee), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

lol

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

good looking out on the matinee CAD - makes it much easier to take my daughter

ultimately opted for Golden State, I've never seen them play and this definitely feels like the last hurrah for the core

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

Nets say Ben Simmons needs time to regain confidence, rhythm

Ok, sounds reasonable:

Nash and several Nets players have held to a similar refrain throughout training camp, but the comments have taken on a different tenor after Simmons struggled at times in his first two preseason games. In a combined 44 minutes, Simmons has scored 10 points, grabbed 14 rebounds, dished out nine assists and committed eight turnovers. The larger issue for the Nets is that while Simmons is 5-for-9 from the field, he has shown little desire to take a shot that isn't near the rim and has missed both of his free throw attempts so far.

Well, that seems less than ideal. Unlike his Sixers’ teammates, I’m sure Simmons’ new teammates are saying all the right things to support him:

"Just trust in him," Durant said, when asked what he can do to keep Simmons' offensive confidence up. "Pass him the ball when he's open, tell him to be aggressive. I don't do too much. I'm not here to be babysitting anybody. Ben knows that if he's got a time to be aggressive, go be aggressive.

This is not going to end well.

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

Simmo the savage might be done.

Awesome about seeing the dubs. Whenever those kinda opportunities pop up I say see the best player you can. So curry and Giannis would be my first two choices for sure.

Spottie, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link

ben simmons, very weird career!

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link

some say he played basketball but the evidence is fuzzy

ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

teach the controversy

Clay, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 23:56 (one year ago) link

alleged basketball player ben simmons

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

the nets will say all the right things about simmons but they don’t have the same emotional investment in him as the sixers had. at the end of the day they can treat him as what he was in reality — a salary match in a hostage negotiation that ultimately got the nets two first round picks and a player (seth curry) who is actually useful. paying $35 million to a guy who doesn’t play for you is not ideal but joe tsai can swallow the bill. i’m not sure simmons even makes them that much better, certainly not in the playoffs. he’s a year and a half away from being an expiring contract.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 October 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link

franz

Franz Wagner hits dagger 3 then picks Ja’s pocket to seal ithttps://t.co/5zx0t9AAtH pic.twitter.com/mRIbZTvgF1

— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) October 12, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 01:38 (one year ago) link

it's weird how he seems to be a lot better than even people who liked him thought he would be

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

its hard to get past the fact that his name is franz

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 01:47 (one year ago) link

franz/banchero/wendell carter jr is a big lineup

micah, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link

Ben Simmons 💀 pic.twitter.com/tpt07yqAFA

— points LeBron needs for #1 (@LeBronPoints) October 11, 2022

Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 02:50 (one year ago) link

that’s not what an NBA player’s shot is supposed to look like

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 October 2022 02:56 (one year ago) link

the majority of ilh posters probably have better shot mechanics than whatever that is

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 03:05 (one year ago) link

love to flick my wrist for the very first time in my entire life

Clay, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 03:11 (one year ago) link

Jump shot needs to be more aggressive.

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

simmons bottoming out on offense will surely lead to the natural conclusion of him finally playing center, or maybe just not playing anymore idk

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

that video getting out really screwed their whole thing up, but even without it there shouldve been a suspension, and there prob wouldve been if it werent for the ring ceremony, lol perfect storm

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

they ended up deciding to go ahead and do what they were gonna do anyway (nothing). i’m not on the team so it’s none of my business TM kermit but it just feels like this is going to end badly one way or another

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

i'm dying to see what happens in the playoffs if the warriors are down in a series, draymond is looking benchable at times like he did last year and/or has been getting benched, and he doesn't have a contract + feels like the warriors might be ready to let him walk. does he just suicide bomb the entire enterprise? i think he might!

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

omg lol we need this

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

was thinking trading him would be the most compelling outcome but yeah its major playoff meltdown

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

wld be funny if they just traded him before the season started tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

Dray for Simmons!

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

lol this guy too intense for you how about one who just doesnt give a shit

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

Lol, well, maybe the GSW magic that made Wiggins give a shit could work on Simmons.

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

feel like draymond's trade value is really limited. i was thinking about it this morning and all jokes aside brooklyn feels like one of the only teams (maybe the only team) where he makes sense. i don't think the warriors would take simmons back tho

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

yeah i dont think theres really any way they trade him hes too crucial to what they do and no ones going to give them anyone good back anyway, maybe at the deadline if theyre struggling and hes playing bad some sort of dray + young guy + picks for a good player deal opens up that makes sense but that seems unlikely

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

one underrated thing about how the warriors work is imo that dray and steph are two of the most complimentary players ever, messing with that is dangerous

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link

would the lakers try to get him? i don't know if that makes sense but feels like they like to get big names regardless

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

lakers got nothing tho, maybe it could be some sort of three team deal with westbrook and dray in it idk, they would do it tho yeah

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

theres also the klutch connection

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

still leaves you with the problem that no one really wants westbrook plus two lakers firsts that bad, tho if the dubs put something else in more deals wld prob open up

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

then there is the whole division rivals issue

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

doubt the dubs really want to see an vengeful dray in the playoffs

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

the lakers prob would be desperate enough to do it. the issue for me is that i don't see how you fit draymond into a team that already has a big that has to be on the floor. the warriors did play a lot of draymond & looney together in the finals but draymond is so integrated into the way that steph plays that they were able to figure it out (except for the games where dray murdered their offense lol). but lebron-draymond-AD makes no sense to me. i guess you'd be incredible on defense. the nets' only big is claxton and they prob wanna play small anyway so dray seems like an easy fit there

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

Adding Dray to Lebron + AD is bananas, not in a good way

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

too late

https://i.imgur.com/gnoaZZn.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

it is written

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

no one who would go to all that trouble to photoshop a player in a new jersey could be wrong

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

this is such a crazy conversation!

k3vin k., Wednesday, 12 October 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

idk did u look at the photoshop

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

lol

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link

you can't just do a jersey shop it's illegal unless it's really happening so here we are

Clay, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 23:43 (one year ago) link

sickos.jpg

Pelicans going with Zion at the 5 right now - and switching everything defensively.

— Andrew Lopez (@_Andrew_Lopez) October 13, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 October 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

One reason you probably won't see the Warriors trade Draymond for Simmons is that Wiggins and Simmons are both on designated rookie max contracts and can't be on the same roster.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 13 October 2022 02:35 (one year ago) link

We shouldn't let the intricacies of the NBA's CBA interfere with perfectly harmless trade speculations.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 13 October 2022 02:54 (one year ago) link

Patrick Beverley called a team huddle and Russell Westbrook wanted no part of it 😳
pic.twitter.com/D3mSbISlvs

— Stadium Live (@StadiumLiveApp) October 13, 2022



this is already just absolutely perfect

J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 October 2022 04:26 (one year ago) link

russ doing the "yeah let's have the huddle over here" bit IN THE PRESEASON is beautiful stuff

Adding pat bev to this team is poetry

Spottie, Thursday, 13 October 2022 05:19 (one year ago) link

I know it's only preseason but getting beat by the Wolves when they sat KAT, Gobert, and Prince and Ant had only 5 points is really bad. You got cooked by Naz Reid.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 October 2022 11:34 (one year ago) link

jelly fam

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 October 2022 11:37 (one year ago) link

I was so excited when the Gophers signed Isaiah Washington but then he turned out to be a barely serviceable role player, he transferred out to some small school

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 October 2022 11:54 (one year ago) link

Anthony Davis on how he feels about potentially starting at the 5: "I trust Coach’s decision. I mean, I’m pretty sure he heard AD wants to play the 4, so he knows where I stand, but at the end of the day, I want to win, so if that’s me playing the 5, that’s what it’s got to be."

— Dave McMenamin (@mcten) October 13, 2022

vibes are immaculate

k3vin k., Thursday, 13 October 2022 12:07 (one year ago) link

haa

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 October 2022 12:28 (one year ago) link

Usage of third person rules

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link

i'm gonna be switching the channel to see the bench on a lot of fourth quarter laker games aren't i

Checking out in pre season is hilarious ngl 😂 pic.twitter.com/Fkvh1gWVdP

— Beke (@BK9419) October 13, 2022

Spottie, Thursday, 13 October 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

It's the preseason and I don't read much into anything. But if I were to read too much into something.......... pic.twitter.com/Hgcb91PNu5

— Jacob Rude (@JacobRude) October 13, 2022

omar little, Thursday, 13 October 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

Oops sorry J0rdan just saw your post

omar little, Thursday, 13 October 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

im all for quiet quitting except for westbrook, what a fuckin baby

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 13 October 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

he can simply not stop being himself

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 October 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

Checking out in pre season is hilarious ngl 😂 pic.twitter.com/Fkvh1gWVdP
— Beke (@BK9419) October 13, 2022

― Spottie, Thursday, October 13, 2022 1:07 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago)

my god lmao

J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 October 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

what is his end game here i don't really understand

J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 October 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

getting traded to the hornets so he can drag them to the 10th seed and lose to the hawks in the play-in

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Thursday, 13 October 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/i4N8Yrx.png

i hate to admit i do the vox crossword every day and get severely owned on my favorite web forum but i can't let this slide

Clay, Friday, 14 October 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

Lmao

Spottie, Friday, 14 October 2022 00:32 (one year ago) link

hahah!

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 October 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link

4-letter answer i assume?

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 October 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link

yep!

Clay, Friday, 14 October 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

NBA Champion. Pickleball specialist.

Dirk can do it all 👏

(via @PPAtour)pic.twitter.com/DdIEhi2ap3

— NBA on ESPN (@ESPNNBA) October 14, 2022

k3vin k., Friday, 14 October 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link

Gummo ass haircut lol

Gordon Hayward, with the new haircut, said he “feels great” heading into the season. Said he is hoping to stay healthy. pic.twitter.com/zFRwesCkqz

— Steve Reed (@SteveReedAP) September 26, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 14 October 2022 03:19 (one year ago) link

oh my god

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 October 2022 03:23 (one year ago) link

dude what happened to him

Clay, Friday, 14 October 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link

what?? why???

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 October 2022 03:27 (one year ago) link

wtf

k3vin k., Friday, 14 October 2022 03:37 (one year ago) link

he paid two bills for that

i kinda like it tbh

micah, Friday, 14 October 2022 05:02 (one year ago) link

it is that time of year again, folks. the regular season approaches and so too does an innovative approach to increasing your engagement with the NBA, known as "fantasy sports". Over in the ILH Fantasy Talk thread we have twice as much fun following basketball, and we would love for you to join us. Do it to unlock a world of fun and camaraderie, to level up your ILH profile, as an homage to Mariah Carey's irresistible pop confection "Fantasy" winning the recent 90s tracks poll on ILM, or in protest of Mariah Carey's insufferable dreck "Fantasy" winning the 90s tracks poll. But please join us, we'd love at least one more person

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 14 October 2022 12:57 (one year ago) link

🚨 🚨 🚨

Introducing the @FiveThirtyEight NBA predictions for the 2022-23 season, with the most wide-open title picture in recent memory.https://t.co/TnCSFyImao pic.twitter.com/pH9S8PCl4z

— Yaya Dubin (@JADubin5) October 14, 2022

the nuggets will win the nba playoffs

k3vin k., Friday, 14 October 2022 13:47 (one year ago) link

wait why the hell does it like the hawks that much

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 October 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

dejounte is a good raptor player probably

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 14 October 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

sry *RAPTOR

also lol at tanking jazz above the lakers

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 14 October 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link

i have always liked 538 they make the good predictions and are nice kudos to them

lag∞n, Friday, 14 October 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link

nuggets celtics finals would make me insane

ciderpress, Friday, 14 October 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link

Would you say you're in the best place that you've been in a while?

Simmons: For sure. I think so. You know what? I know so.

symsymsym, Friday, 14 October 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

the fucking pettiness
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/sports/lawsuit-msg-lawyers-banned-knicks-rangers.html

Hutcher is representing 24 ticket resellers in a lawsuit against Madison Square Garden Entertainment. Their season tickets to the Knicks and Rangers were not renewed because of their positions as sellers, which the lawsuit argues is against the New York Arts and Cultural Affairs Law.

Nine days after that lawsuit was filed, Hutcher received a letter from Hal Weidenfeld, the senior vice president for legal and business affairs at Madison Square Garden Entertainment. The letter barred Hutcher and every lawyer at the firm from entering any of the company’s venues until the litigation was resolved.


of course also lol lawyers

This is what playing for the Hornets does to the human body pic.twitter.com/p2wPzZYZLq

— Neon Genesis Evan Fournier (@JeremyFrom413) October 14, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 14 October 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

wait why the hell does it like the hawks that much


Hawks are great on paper

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 14 October 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

yeah theres a lot of guys for a computer to love on that roster

lag∞n, Friday, 14 October 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

Ladies and germs, Ben Simmons:

How do you block out all the noise that seems to find you?

Simmons: It finds me all the time. And it doesn't f----ing stop. Sometimes I'm even sick of it, but then I'm like, 'OK, I'm Ben Simmons,' you know? Even the other day there was a clip of me air balling a shot at the park. Meanwhile, like 10 guys air balled multiple shots. So it's like people will find one clip and try to make it that everything -- like Ben can't do [this or that]. You think I'm just air balling every shot? It's not true. But you got to have tough skin and I realize that, but I can't take everything personally. It's social media.

Ben, what you have to realize is that you are a very whiny, immature, unpleasant person and people dislike you.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 14 October 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

but then I'm like, 'OK, I'm Simmo The Savage,' you know?

lag∞n, Friday, 14 October 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

he needs to publicly embrace the simmo the savage mindset

lag∞n, Friday, 14 October 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

Even the other day there was a clip of me air balling a shot at the park. Meanwhile, like 10 guys air balled multiple shots.

gonna need some evidence ben

Spottie, Friday, 14 October 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

ben simmons tracking the marketing departments trick shot attempts

lag∞n, Friday, 14 October 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

a face only a computer could love

ciderpress, Friday, 14 October 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

sorry i meant to post the hawks logo there pretend i did

ciderpress, Friday, 14 October 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

heh true

lag∞n, Friday, 14 October 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

the airball answer was so good. what, you’ve never airballed a shot? I’m a professional basketball player, not freaking god

k3vin k., Friday, 14 October 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

not sure if thats what he said

lag∞n, Friday, 14 October 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

lol in the redeem team doc lebron said he grew up hating jj redick

lebron is only six months younger than redick

— trey (@TreyfromNY) October 14, 2022

bring back hating jj redick

lag∞n, Friday, 14 October 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

Anthony Davis (back) didn’t make the trip to Sacramento for precautionary reasons.

— Dan Woike (@DanWoikeSports) October 14, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 14 October 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

everything is going well 4 lakers

lag∞n, Friday, 14 October 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link

expecting a big season from the showtime boys in hollywood usa

Clay, Friday, 14 October 2022 23:48 (one year ago) link

Wolves getting run by the Nets early

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link

I get so caught up in the drama I forget that team has Kevin Durant and Kyrie they are pretty good at basketball

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

teams already taking advantage of gobert and the season hasnt even started

See it again here, Gobert screens, Nets switch. He's looking to seal, he's looking to catch, he's pointing for the high low, he doesn't get a look. I am very intrigued if teams go with switching from the jump and how the Wolves adjust. pic.twitter.com/kbUcwB0kW3

— Steve Jones Jr. (@stevejones20) October 15, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

https://t.co/rNjonXR91q pic.twitter.com/5cQWi7GciC

— br◎seph (@on3ness) October 15, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link

If Russ buys in the lakers will be alright

Spottie, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link

having him do russ stuff while bron sits is his best role but its not in his nature to buy in

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link

and you know ham wants to trade him for the indy guys

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

Simmons: 2 points, 4 fouls

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

Sorry now 5 fouls, 7 minutes to go in the half

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

just want you to know that whichever way you want to go with this upcoming regular-season thread, i'm buying in

it's not my nature, but lag∞n is admittedly a legend

mookieproof, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:51 (one year ago) link

i have a wild spoiler for you guys: russ is not going to buy in

Clay, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link

russ cant buy in, the concept is completely foreign to him

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link

the wild grinch

ciderpress, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:57 (one year ago) link

If Russ buys in the lakers will be alright

― Spottie, Friday, October 14, 2022 8:44 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol dude you can't be saying this with a straight face

call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

he's literally never bought in to anything!

call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 October 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link

we are simply not having it! lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link

russ has bought into one thing and that is the concept of russ

Clay, Saturday, 15 October 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

remember when he bought into getting triple doubles every game, that was cool

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 15 October 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link

the height of his teamwork (getting every to let him have all the ft rebounds)

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 01:20 (one year ago) link

lol prob wise this game which is being played in montreal on a court sitting on top of a hockey rink is getting into weird vibes territory

Jayson Tatum just got tossed for picking up his second technical foul.

And that's enough of that for the preseason.

— Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) October 15, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 01:34 (one year ago) link

heh

Refs are cops

— Ryan Bernardoni (@dangercart) October 15, 2022

refs are police w better training

— shookdancer (@shakedancer) October 15, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

on the plus side they just interviewed robert parish and he pronounced the country canadar

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 01:40 (one year ago) link

finally someone gets it right

call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 October 2022 01:42 (one year ago) link

why are there so many starters in this game with 4:36 left? what are we trying to do exactly?

call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 October 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

get marcus nice and banged up before the season starts

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 01:55 (one year ago) link

kinda funny i was thinking a lil while ago now that imes not a rookie coach maybe hell rest the starters more oh well

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 01:57 (one year ago) link

guess theyre just gonna role with mazzulla even tho hes technically the interim coach, guess that makes it a lil easier to replace him if things go badly wrong

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link

it's in keeping with their management style, they're not going to bring in some outside guy as a reaction.

but this isn't the only preseason game i've seen where everyone is playing lots of minutes and trying, which we can file away for when everyone rests for a TNT game in februrary

call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 October 2022 02:06 (one year ago) link

yeah first two games he played the normal rotation for 3 quarters

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 02:07 (one year ago) link

ha i turned it off but apparently its going to overtime, all the professional celtics followers are complaining on twitter

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

if i were cynical i would wonder if guys are advocating to play more in preseason to get good press buzz going, but no one would ever be that shortsighted

call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 October 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

montreal crowd has been great though, good for them

call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 October 2022 02:10 (one year ago) link

its pretty cool how the raptors have really become canadas teams

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 02:11 (one year ago) link

If Russ buys in the lakers will be alright

― Spottie, Friday, October 14, 2022 8:44 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol dude you can't be saying this with a straight face


I do not believe it will happen no.

Spottie, Saturday, 15 October 2022 02:12 (one year ago) link

xp yeah it's good, and there's a smattering of celtics fans too which spices things up

call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 October 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link

refs are absolutely high calling pritchard for a foul on a pass

call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 October 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link

well well well

pic.twitter.com/Y0jE2sQEfE

— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) October 15, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link

watching nuggs-dubs. having three guys like bruce brown, KCP, and aaron gordon to switch onto tough perimeter assignments is such a rare luxury

k3vin k., Saturday, 15 October 2022 02:21 (one year ago) link

MPJ’s jumper looks very good

k3vin k., Saturday, 15 October 2022 02:30 (one year ago) link

delly’s on the kings. alex len too

sknybrg, Saturday, 15 October 2022 04:11 (one year ago) link

Lakers got ~50 pieced by the kings???

Spottie, Saturday, 15 October 2022 05:44 (one year ago) link

they didnt really play their guys, but still lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

Nuggets roster makes a lot of sense and if fully healthy they can win the title. At max health the clippers are probably the best team but what do we know about Kawhi rn?

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 15 October 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link

all else being equal i think i still like the bucks but a lot of teams in the mix this year should be pretty cool

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

hmm yeah interesting

Westbrook “receptive” to bench role, but leaves first game early with hamstring injury https://t.co/R6532oLOJc

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) October 15, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

Nets vibes seem too off for it to work. I think Philly is kind of underrated

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

if harden can regain some form they could be very good, dont even need him to be mvp level harden just not bad

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

harden-embiid pick and roll should by all rights be unstoppable

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

but he has so many bad habits things that only work when he is mvp level

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

i’ve cried tears of joy every time i’ve come across the phrase “if james harden” this offseason. we still haven’t learned!

J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

i mean im with you on this one but he was so bad last year if hes just in better shape and not injured ???

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

has anyone got a look at him is he still fat

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

the stuff about him being in shape and/or healthy is a red herring. the issue is that when he gets into the playoffs his brain shuts down. they could go 75-7 in the regular season and it wouldn’t matter.

J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

there was the one year when he had the other guy with playoff issues

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

Final preseason leaders in my wins above replacement player (WARP) metric. Note that this includes games against non-NBA opponents. pic.twitter.com/EiJUMfeJE8

— Kevin Pelton (@kpelton) October 15, 2022

J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 October 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

wow i always knew *looking up tari eason* tari eason had it in him

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

tari was one of my draft favs, i really wish the spurs had packaged their 20+25 to move up and get him

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 15 October 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

Poole 4/140 extension

Spottie, Saturday, 15 October 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

that's a lot of cash. apparently $17m of it is non-guaranteed and some of that is "unlikely incentives"

circles, Saturday, 15 October 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

*win mvp $50M
*do a double backflip dunk on giannis in game $5M
*eat the bigass steak in texas in one sitting $500k

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 15 October 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

so he basically got the same extension as tyler herro but is able to say he got more

J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 October 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

getting yelled at and punched by draymond vs. getting yelled at and punched by jimmy butler

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 15 October 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

Apparently the warriors luxury tax bill next season will be 400 million dollars? That seems like a lot. I would try to pay less than that

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 15 October 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

Yolo

Spottie, Saturday, 15 October 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

if 400 million dollars seems like a lot to you well maybe you're just not a true player

Clay, Saturday, 15 October 2022 22:16 (one year ago) link

I guess it would make you popular with other owners

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 15 October 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link

The owners started groaning about it last season. Idk kinda sad they drafted all these dudes and can’t hold onto them without massive penalties

Spottie, Saturday, 15 October 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link

lolllll noooooo spottie "boo hoo the warriors are being punished for being too good" yes thats why salary caps and luxury taxes exist!!!!!!

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 15 October 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

Let me whine in peace

Spottie, Saturday, 15 October 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

idk it's pretty sad that all the good players can't be on one team, they would have fun

Clay, Saturday, 15 October 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link

the dubs didnt draft their best player, andrew "wigdawg" wiggins

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 October 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

Yet while this prospect of landing the Pacers’ Buddy Hield and/or center Myles Turner in a Westbrook-centric deal had loomed for months, there was a strong desire from some Lakers officials to see Westbrook play in Ham’s system before making that sort of monumental decision.

k3vin k., Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link

o/u 10 games before he's gone?

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:06 (one year ago) link

the monumental decision of getting rid of the player most likely to sink your team while you have lebron james and anthony davis in a wide-open league

Clay, Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link

While we’re waiting for the season to start, there is some good hoop content on Netflix. Documentary on the 2008 Olympic “Redeem Team.”

that's not my post, Sunday, 16 October 2022 06:04 (one year ago) link

new wembanyama just dropped

Outstanding debut for 17-year old Aday Mara in the Spanish @ACBCOM. 8 points, 4 rebounds in 19 minutes against Euroleague team Baskonia. The skilled 7'3 center with a 7'6 wingspan is one of the most promising prospects in Europe. pic.twitter.com/gxPSMFwONp

— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) October 17, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 17 October 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

looks like a more traditional lumbering big

Spottie, Monday, 17 October 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

father/son bonding = putting headphones in to play one on one lol

👑 vs🤴🏾
Bronny & LeBron’s new commercial for @beatsbydre!

pic.twitter.com/bXb7UnCr5J

— Ballislife.com (@Ballislife) October 17, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 17 October 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

idk I think that's cute!

BTW is the NBA ready to draft a guy named Scoot?

Fartleby the Scrivener (Leee), Monday, 17 October 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

it is cute.

scoot is a GREAT athlete name.

Spottie, Monday, 17 October 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

Steve Ballmer has wanted to put Clippers games on a streaming service for years. Now he has one, ClipperVision, and 74 of the team’s 82 games will be broadcast there. I watched a test broadcast.

“This is our channel,” he said. https://t.co/b1FwoPwqYU

— Andrew Greif (@AndrewGreif) October 17, 2022

Spottie, Monday, 17 October 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

Kawhi looks like he should be holding up a newspaper with today’s date.

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Monday, 17 October 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

scoot is a GREAT athlete name.

I guess it's a SCUTE name.

Fartleby the Scrivener (Leee), Monday, 17 October 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

love to pay $200 for 74 of the 82 clippers games

lag∞n, Monday, 17 October 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

who wants to take the it upon themselves to star the regular season thread?

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 October 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

2022/23 NBA REGULAR SEASON THREAD "TANKING FOR WEMBANYAMA"

lag∞n, Monday, 17 October 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

Dennis Schroder underwent a procedure to repair a ligament in his thumb today, according to Lakers coach Darvin Ham. He is expected to be sidelined 3-4 weeks, per Ham.

— Dave McMenamin (@mcten) October 17, 2022

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 October 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

off to a good start!

Spottie, Monday, 17 October 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

per ham

lag∞n, Monday, 17 October 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

okay

At the 6 PM ET buzzer: Atlanta Hawks forward De'Andre Hunter has agreed on a four-year, $95 million contract extension, his agents Thad Foucher and Joe Smith of @Wassbasketball tell ESPN. pic.twitter.com/mDm6hZTosm

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 18, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:02 (one year ago) link

seems like an overpay idk

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

since it was announced by the agents i wonder how much of that money is in “unlikely guarantees”

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link

the NBA shifting towards NFL style contract announcements of fake numbers to make agents and players look better is not pleasing to me

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link

think they can only do 15% max in incentives, anyway is there any evidence hes a good player

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

that will be an overpay if hunter is who he’s mostly been the last few years (not a good player and always hurt) but won’t be if he’s the player he’s been in flashes. also if the cap dynamics change the way everyone is saying then it prob won’t be an overpay either way but after the received wisdom of the cap spike year turned out to be disastrously wrong for just about every single contract signed that summer i’m not taking this stuff about the new CBA on blind faith

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

hunter reminds me of RJ barrett where even when he’s having great games it just don’t feel like he has a dominant gear he can shift to

he did average 21 ppg on 56/46/80 shooting in round 1 last playoffs but it did feel like he was on a bit of a heater. he also doesn’t do anything else with the ball (4 rpg and an assist to TO ratio that was way underwater)

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

if he had been drafted 11th or whatever they wouldnt be giving him this deal, throwing good money after bad

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

totally forgot they traded up to get him lol, perfect guy to wait til 8th to see if hes still there

The Hawks traded up to acquire Hunter in the draft, making a deal with the Pelicans to move up from the eighth pick to the fourth selection to grab the former University of Virginia star.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:32 (one year ago) link

you dont see the celtics throwing big money at grant williams no theyre saying hey buddy youve been great take this midlevel type deal, or at least i assume thats what theyre doing since they didnt agree to an extension lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link

they're pretty fucked if he just stays this bad so i guess you roll the dice on him getting good and earning this, but it's just annoying that he has never like, done anything of note

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link

this is how you deal with guys who have been pretty good okay nothing that special

No rookie extension deals for Phoenix's Cam Johnson, Charlotte's P.J. Washington or Boston's Grant Williams -- all headed to restricted free agency next summer, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 17, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link

is someone going to swoop in with a godfather offer for dandre hunter next year i dont think so

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link

yeah the idea of him getting much more than that extension is a fantasy, at his absolute best he's a high-end role player

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/uSmAZXm.png

this looks ridiculous to me when you throw hunter's extension in there but i guess atlanta has talked themselves into thinking they're realass contenders

per Ham (Clay), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

i mean they do have a bunch of guys but on the other hand its hard to love it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link

capela or collins will get moved

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:58 (one year ago) link

i think moving collins was part of the plan all along except that no one really wants him too much

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link

Weird team, could be fun tho

Spottie, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

I said it would be difficult to overpay on a rookie extension this year. I did not say it would be impossible. https://t.co/GLjnZHV0dp

— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) October 18, 2022

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link

hahaha hollinger

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

an all time bad offseason for the hornets

James Bouknight was arrested on Oct. 16 for driving while impaired

He was most recently charged with reckless driving to endanger on Oct. 10, reckless driving-wanton disregard on Nov. 11, 2021, and again on Feb. 23, 2022, via https://t.co/8fxANs4mkO pic.twitter.com/8b13dRLpYw

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) October 17, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

yikes he needs to go to treatment not play basketball

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

On top of everything else, Charlotte FO does not seem to be the best judge of character/who is in a good place to help their basketball team uh play basketball

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

he needs a driver ffs

k3vin k., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

big honey is a national treasure

Nikola Jokic, on his excitement of playing with Jamal Murray again: “I love to play with him, of course. I know he’s gonna be really bad for the next 20 games, but we’re gonna survive.”

— Mike Singer (@msinger) October 18, 2022

Spottie, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

bumping this thread to congratulate all of us on our otm pre-draft chet holmgren takes. matt armstrong get in here you rascal you

****

chet's shot is so smooth. w/ his defensive potential i feel like he has to go number 1, at worst i feel like you're getting a porzingis type player w/ a better shot and a body potentially less conducive to leg injuries. at best you're potentially getting like karl towns crossed w/ evan mobley. in between maybe he's chris bosh w/ more rim protection. idk

https://www. youtube .com/watch?v=f4ZpisXk6R8

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 26, 2022 2:16 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

yeah i like chet too, with his freakish arms crazy feel for the game and having all the offensive skills he should go 1 imho, you're potentially getting like karl towns crossed w/ evan mobley exactly he pretty clearly has the highest ceiling of the top guys, the reason hes not the consensus #1 right now is prob because hes not really featured on his team cause he plays next to an older player of the year candidate and that evaluators tend to underrate feel for the game being a true baller and so forth due to it being highly intangible

― lag∞n, Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:09 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

chets got the juice, the it factor

― lag∞n, Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:09 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

if jabari smith had an off the bounce game i could see the argument... but he doesnt

― lag∞n, Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:12 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

feel like chet will be one of those guys who have their aggressiveness questioned leading up to the draft drop a couple few spots then just come in and start doing insane things from day one in the nba

― lag∞n, Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:16 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

i feel like evan mobley is pretty strong proof of concept for chet, almost feels like it's lining up for it to be the perfect year to take a guy like this no 1 overall. chet maybe not as great defensively i mean mobley seems like a phenom but chet is far more developed as a shooter. w/ his shooting form/touch and natural shot blocking ability i just feel like he's the kind of high floor/high ceiling prospect you should be aiming for w/ a no 1 pick. i'm trying to imagine the worst case outcome for him if he has even average health for a big man. myles turner? jarren jackson jr? his overall feel just seems far superior to those guys and he's taller and he's a better shooter etc

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:22 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

and chet might even be mobley on D, i mean hes a defensive star

― lag∞n, Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:26 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

People are overthinking this, Chet is clearly the guy. Jabari has a really raw game that requires a lot of projection to see in the nba, Chet can shoot and handle.

― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, January 26, 2022 5:46 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

tbf jabari can shoot good but yeah hes pretty raw

― lag∞n, Wednesday, January 26, 2022 5:55 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

i hope yall are right abt slenderman

― class project pat (m bison), Wednesday, January 26, 2022 8:02 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

CHET HOLMGREN WITH 11 POINTS IN UNDER TWO MINUTES 🤯 pic.twitter.com/YBeBtOP71q
— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) February 4, 2022

man his shot is so pure. also sandwiched in there him blocking the other center right at the rim and going the entire length of the court with the ball to score
― J0rdan S., Friday, February 4, 2022 12:07 AM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

his last 4 games

23-12 4 blocks on 9-12 shooting, 3-5 from three
12-11 on 4-6 shooting, 4-6 from three
21-9 3 blocks on 7-8 shooting, 3-3 from three
22-9 4 blocks on 7-10 shooting, 2-4 from three

shooting 63/46/74 on the season

― J0rdan S., Friday, February 4, 2022 12:16 AM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

ok so MAYBE with modern medicine factored in he shd be #1

― class project pat (m bison), Friday, February 4, 2022 9:19 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

lol

― lag∞n, Friday, February 4, 2022 9:20 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

three weeks pass...
chet looks like a phenom

Another day at the office for projected top pick Chet Holmgren: 21 PTS (12 FGAs), 15 REBS, 6 BLK, 3 STL in a win over USF. No other player in the draft who can do the things he can on both ends. Going to make a lot of his naysayers look silly. No. 1 prospect in this 2022 class. pic.twitter.com/BvnV51J04S
— Mike Schmitz (@Mike_Schmitz) February 25, 2022
― J0rdan S., Friday, February 25, 2022 3:25 AM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

dare i say kevin durant but an even better defender vibes??

― J0rdan S., Friday, February 25, 2022 3:26 AM (one year ago)

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 23:36 (four months ago) link

high five team

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 23:39 (four months ago) link

aw i like how i did very little hype work but still got my name on the class project, this is just like ap physics all over again

oatly carmichael (m bison), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 02:09 (four months ago) link

also my name was class project pat, v appropriate

oatly carmichael (m bison), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 02:09 (four months ago) link

ha

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 02:10 (four months ago) link

bison i think you had some pro chet posts in that thread around the same time

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 02:16 (four months ago) link

praying 4 victor to end up a spur, i cannot live in a world with chet murking my spurs for the next 20 years

― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, July 5, 2022 9:15 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

i did have this one, praise be to allah

oatly carmichael (m bison), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 02:49 (four months ago) link

bless

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 02:52 (four months ago) link


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