golden state warriors thread

so we dont spam up the main thread with too much gsw stuff

i love any and all klay boat content
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBryU1pVcAYoZx4?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

I totally missed Avery Bradley is on the team now

he might not make the final roster. everyone is hoping its gary payton II. bradley has looked bad in the minutes ive seen him and hasnt looked good in a few seasons really

My understanding is: Payton is signed for this season so they'd have to eat the money for this season if they waive him. Bradley is on an exhibit 10 which they could convert to a 2-way even if they keep Payton. If they cut Payton they'd have to have him pass through waivers to sign him to a two-way.

actually, bradley is ineligible for a two-way due to service time, so he would have to be a straight up g-leaguer

hmm. i think they should roll w GP2. Obv if AB was even like 80% of what he was he would be better but I like the idea of a real defensive ball hawk that's young and hungry to prove himself.

Spottie, thanks for creating a safe space to talk about how Jordan Poole will make the all star team this year

haha i think 6th man of the year would be ideal honestly, or most improved. he may get too many starts in klays absence to be eligible for 6moy. either way im probably more excited to see him play than anything outside of klays return.

Nice to see Steph and Dray at the Giants game.

well thats an option i guess. might not be too bad an idea to leave that spot open for buyout spot idk

Warriors waived tonight: Jordan Bell, Avery Bradley, Mychal Mulder and Gary Payton II. 15th roster spot open for now.

— Monte Poole (@MontePooleNBCS) October 16, 2021

aww was kinda rooting for bell.

yeah same, i thought he was a building block!
is payton's son an nba player for the long haul or no? i haven't seen enough of him.

apparently payton II can’t do anything at all on offense

Yah report on him is that he’s an all time on ball defender but a zero on offense. Like a shorter and worse offensive player than tony Allen

so.... euroleague?

After waiving him Saturday, Golden State has re-signed Gary Payton II.

More NBA from me: https://t.co/LGN9cVpeGP pic.twitter.com/Od3jt7rMDF

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) October 19, 2021

makes sense

GP2 played for like 3 seconds to end the 1st half and he got a steal haha

wiseman is a large human
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCP1_PxUcAEghAg?format=jpg&name=medium

cuet
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/warriors-damion-lee-juan-toscano-anderson-share-evil-twins-bond

Toscano-Anderson said their friendship helped him survive in the NBA, a place he “thought I knew” but discovered was far different. He trusts Lee with his deepest thoughts.

“You need that. You need that in life, you know, as men we don't express ourselves when we don't find people we can just be vulnerable with. Not only as men, but as Black men. We tend to just kind of mask that stuff.”

Well, I finally saw my first pro 8-second violation. One of Dray's many boneheaded turnovers last night.

the TOs were brutal last night. felt like the majority of them were just plain stupid and pointless

I was yelling at the TV “a no-look pass means you don’t look!”

lol Andre - 2p/4r/10a/2s in 17 minutes

insane line

and liek every assist he was pointing at the pels bench someone musta said something to him early on

Andre Iguodala on their 7-1 start and if he thinks they are a good team: "Uhh, we okay, a work in progress. We had a favorable schedule so you shouldn't look too much into it.

— Joe Viray (@JoeVirayNBA) November 6, 2021

I agree

classic iggy lol

seriously the chase crowd is doodoo steph and dray having to yell at them just stand up and clap

“Come on muthafuckas” he fed up wit that bunk ass crowd 😂😂😂😂😂 https://t.co/gMRiNdTH0k

— STAY100 (@Bounc3Bike9800) November 9, 2021

shouldve stayed in oakland

i watched the hawks feed last night and those boys were salty when curry got his 50 lmao

Hawks Play by Play guy in his feelings about Steph getting 50 pic.twitter.com/t1IdYBfNwb

— warriorsworld (@warriorsworld) November 9, 2021

lol what babies

pffffft 50 i do that for brkfst

I wonder if I'll ever go to another Warriors game. $120 for nosebleeds with a bad crowd? In a boring neighborhood? Zzz

come out to phx we can see them for less

Yeah the tickets are ridiculous for the Dubs. .01 percenters only.

I love Steph, Klay and Dray with all my heart but if they never get another ring because of the Curse of Oracle I'll understand.

So fun tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbqxrHpdE6g

Wiggins most aggressive game I’ve ever seen.

Does he promise to?

Andrew Wiggins: “I’m going to keep it rolling. I’m going to stay aggressive.”

— Rusty Simmons (@Rusty_SFChron) November 11, 2021

the highlight clip on espn was titled wiggins dunks hard on kat twice lol i was like hmm

really promising stuff from kuminga the last few games.

From @ElGee35’s recent video: Steph’s greatness pic.twitter.com/HckrWeS00q

— mathketball (@Mathketball1) November 19, 2021

and after all that the most impressive part is how he's able to set his feet and get off the shot after sprinting to the spot from the other direction

The Warriors starters tonight

Gary Payton II
Jordan Poole
Andrew Wiggins
Juan Toscano-Anderson
Kevon Looney

— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) November 19, 2021

and after all that the most impressive part is how he's able to set his feet and get off the shot after sprinting to the spot from the other direction

― J0rdan S., Friday, November 19, 2021 2:10 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah all that and he still has less than a quarter of a second to get the shot off clean, and does

they won with that lineup! know your opponent i guess.

Good stuff from Poole and Wiggins last night. Once klay comes back Poole will fill his rightful role as the microwave 6th man and he’ll be able to maximize his strengths a little more.

poole plays like a microwave, not sure if thats his ideal role tho...

its happening

After strong week of scrimmages, Klay Thompson has been cleared to be a full participant in all Warriors practices, trending toward return within week of Christmas, sources tell me and @anthonyVslater.https://t.co/0UsfjrL5Ub

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 21, 2021

ngl, I'm gonna cry when he hits that first 3

Otm

Poole plays very hard. Needs to watch the fouls and a bit tighter handle and he’ll be a more serious problem.

Fun game tonight. Nurse only cared about stopping Steph so he box 1d him the whole game and Wiggins and Poole and others were shooting wide open warmup 3s. Wigg and Poole both 30 pieced curry only 12

Poole and Wiggins were on fire from deep against the Raptors 🔥

They are the first Warrior teammates to each score 30 in a game since KD and Curry in 2019 👀 pic.twitter.com/lST79TgN08

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) November 22, 2021

Draymond on Wiggins: “He’ll continue to play aggressive. I’ll make sure of that.”

— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) November 22, 2021

lol

he's gonna be a real dick of a grampa someday

Klay putting in work while rocking the 77 jersey 🤣 pic.twitter.com/xNY2dhEbTe

— Warriors on NBCS (@NBCSWarriors) November 23, 2021

<3

good read:
https://theathletic.com/2939010/2021/11/23/how-do-the-warriors-have-the-nbas-best-defense-inside-its-construction/?source=emp_shared_article

The shimmy just glitched... pic.twitter.com/wVhonz9qmE

— Bryant Barr (@bryantabarr) November 25, 2021

Another classic weirdo steph reaction

This feels so much like the 14-15 warriors. Every game is a blast to watch and someone off the bench always gets cooking

Insane stat line by Juan Toscano-Anderson off the bench: pic.twitter.com/bKqxRSq7wU

— Alex👋 (@dbs408) November 25, 2021

xps "lord of the prance"

A short story:

It started with the referee T’ing up Steph Curry. It ended with Steph T’ing up the ref. pic.twitter.com/pernQDoYEN

— Antonin (@antonin_org) November 28, 2021

Many wanted to see Jordan Poole develop like Jordan Clarkson last season (Sixth Man of the Year)

JP is starting now but here's a stat comp:

Clarkson last season
27 mins 18.4 pts 42.5%fg 34.7%3pt 4 reb 2.5 ast

Poole this season
30 mins 18.5 pts 45.6%fg 34.7%3pt 3.1 reb 3.3 ast

— Grant Liffmann (@GrantLiffmann) December 3, 2021

GP2 is "shooting" .671 from the field this year. That's a big step down from last year when his fg% was .769.

he's a great center

The man just doesn’t get calls it’s wild

Curry now has 10 free throws in his last 174 minutes of game action

— Marcus Thompson (@ThompsonScribe) December 4, 2021

This picture 🔥🔥🔥

📸: Ezra Shaw/Getty Images pic.twitter.com/MBTBDLD8lg

— Warriors on NBCS (@NBCSWarriors) December 4, 2021

So good

lol

Nobody in the world like Stephen Curry 🔥

(via @warriors)pic.twitter.com/CdfqPevbdo

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) December 7, 2021

this move/finish was sick

Sheesh, JP pic.twitter.com/IaayC7et7Z

— Joe Viray (@JoeVirayNBA) December 7, 2021

Michael Jordan Poole 🙄 pic.twitter.com/l7QE263Tu4

— MagiCast 🇧🇷🏀💉 (5-20) (@magicastbrasil) December 7, 2021

looked practiced and polished for sure

They either need to find more minutes for Kuminga or trade him to someone who will play him more. His athleticism is thrilling.

dude floats in the air
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWwHtXEASGc

not yet 20!

tonight should be interesting. plane out of indy got cancelled until this morning then met by more delays. theyll have just a few hours to prep after landing haha

The Warriors’ plane finally took off out of Indianapolis at 10:35 this morning. Expected to arrive in NYC a bit after noon. Team will probably get to hotel between 1-2 pm. Tip vs Knicks at 7:30.

— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) December 14, 2021

my feeling is steph should do some dramatic fake threes to really get the crowd into it before taking one

steph should inbound the ball and shoot exclusively from the logo for the entirety of the first half and the knicks should allow it

should be some good upset knicks fans/media over the crowd which will obviously be unabashedly rooting for steph

yeah hah

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/264828454_4884164764951079_8073753120678891588_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=1MtI4pcmgF4AX9qPUFK&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=00_AT9RBnmGouibbS1CvdLqW0071_zVtwstoGMgbLdsHBs8gQ&oe=61BE2D97

http://i.imgur.com/o4ojaGe.jpg

looks remarkably similar to

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/FF444gKXsAQcVcl.jpg

You know, technically Steph Curry should probably already have the 3 point record

He had 12 made 3s in the play-in games last year that weirdly didn’t count towards the regular season (or the playoffs)

It’s like they never happened 🤷🏻‍♂️

— Grant Liffmann (@GrantLiffmann) December 14, 2021

They need to figure out where to put those games they can’t just … not exist

i said this last year but surely they by definition count as post-season games

One would think

This reaction had me loling

Ray Allen’s reaction to that Damion Lee airball 🤣🤣 pic.twitter.com/9ELq0fzVO3

— Daman Rangoola (@damanr) December 15, 2021

one of those great records, much like the home run record, the world could give two fucking shits to get behind

was hoping hed play in the christmas game vs the suns

The Warriors don’t plan for Klay Thompson’s return on either the Dec 20th or 23rd home games, sources tell me and @ShamsCharania. He won’t come back on Christmas. So earliest possible Klay return would be Dec 28th. Still ramping up his conditioning over next couple weeks.

— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) December 16, 2021

yeah i mean the man has not played nba in two years everyone be cool

kerr should bring him out from the dressing room as a surprise at the end of a fourth quarter blowout and he should be wearing sunglasses on the court for his first three games

poole out with protocols now :( hope the rest of the team can avoid

if some players miss tonights game its not a big deal

lol

Interesting

Andre Iguodala: “Jimmy Butler had nothing but good things to say about Wiggs, and Jimmy doesn't like anybody. So when Jimmy said he liked Wiggs, that's all I needed to hear." 😂

— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) December 18, 2021

Let the young guys cook

Out for the Warriors against the Raptors tomorrow
-Steph Curry - rest
-Andrew Wiggins - left knee soreness
-Andre Iguodala - right knee management
-Draymond Green - Right hip tightness
-Otto Porter - Left foot management
-Jordan Poole: health and safety protocols.

— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) December 18, 2021

Nobody tell Matt H. I said this, but it looks like things are really starting to click for Wiggins.

All non Warriors fans can relate to this pic.twitter.com/Eo8q7ckIRl

— 👾kevin👾 (@KY_PDX) December 19, 2021

Family jealousy always comes out during the holiday season

I think they may freeze the league tonight

y'all g league team featured on guess the city Guess the City

Perhaps my favorite stat:

In the regular season, Golden State is now 341-91 since Oct. 2014 when Steph Curry and Draymond Green are active.

— Shane Young (@YoungNBA) December 26, 2021

yikes

i wonder what the jordan/pippen w/l line is

Warms the heart

Splash Bros shooting together 🤩pic.twitter.com/CVbkifbUTQ

— Warriors on NBCS (@NBCSWarriors) December 31, 2021

I want iguodala

The jab step had the Eifffel Tower leaning 😭😭😭😭 pic.twitter.com/YOtFYAKeQx

— warriorsworld (@warriorsworld) January 2, 2022

Lol, I thought of Kellerman as soon as that went in. Great win! They kept their composure on the road after blowing a big lead.
I wonder if they'll wait for Dray to clear protocols before bringing Klay back.

I think this win may have been their best win of the season. Or at least tied with the Christmas suns game.

another really solid win especially with curry having another stinker. the defense in the 4th was insane especially the last few minutes.

Draymond Green had 3 blocks in the final 3 minutes of the game last night.

HE IS BACK. pic.twitter.com/RIVLYXd3lH

— Antonin (@antonin_org) January 4, 2022

Ok when do we start Poole and move Curry to 6th man? :P

haha. speaking of:
https://theathletic.com/3018577/2022/01/04/grooming-the-warriors-new-sixth-man-behind-the-scenes-of-jordan-pooles-maturation/

when i look at the warriors i say a lot of the stuff theyre doing seems unsustainable but then i also say they have klay coming back

whats unsustainable? currys having his worst shooting season and they are winning. wiggins 3p% might drop a bit but i'd imagine that would coincide with currys coming back up to normal.

they have not that different of a team than could absolutely not put the ball through the hoop last year

@Spottie
Yeah I posted just after reading that! I love JP3. And GP2, for that matter!

warriors were a good team the last 3rd of last season.. but there are some big differences between this season and last:

- warriors committed to winning from the start and not forcing minutes for young/bad players
- draymond didnt start the season with covid complications and has been playing like playoff draymond on a nightly basis
- poole continuing to play like he did 2nd half of last season
- adding normal vets who fit the system bjelica, porter, iggy, gp2 and removing nico mannion, brad wannamaker, oubre, bazemore & mychel mulder

theyve got a bunch of dubious guys playing very well is how i break it down to an extent, like none of these guys bjelica, porter, iggy, gp2 are good, poole and wigdawg are ok players also playing out of their minds, but on the other hand they have klay coming back

i think they would as currently constructed without klay have a hard time scoring against a good playoff defense

i'm a little worried about steph and it's not a given that klay is going to come back and be awesome

i know ive said this a number of times but they should go allin with a trade for another guy, be willing to move any non core non kuminga player and any pick

and i dont think they should trade wigdawg, you want to bolster their success not radically change the team

i'm a little worried about steph and it's not a given that klay is going to come back and be awesome

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 10:09 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he usually has a slump every year but this one seems to be sticking around a bit longer

I'd rather keep this roster together for the long haul and roll the dice on a championship this season than make some big move to try to guarantee something this year.

https://i.imgur.com/SzV1Ae4.png

I'd rather keep this roster together for the long haul

― DJI, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 12:19 PM (six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

the guys are old!

Not that old, but fair. And I'm intrigued by your trade concept.

steph is 33 entering the no more peak years guaranteed zone, klay is 31 and has been injured, draymond 31 with a game that relies on very high motor so to speak, i mean their core could keep rolling for another few years but could also easily not

their ideal trade is prob for a wing or guard who can create shoot and defend but guys like that prob arent available to them unless they want to really push a lot of chips in, which considering how well theyre doing they prob do not, however trading for one of indys centers does seem doable

theyve got a bunch of dubious guys playing very well is how i break it down to an extent, like none of these guys bjelica, porter, iggy, gp2 are good, poole and wigdawg are ok players also playing out of their minds, but on the other hand they have klay coming back

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 10:00 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

our definitions of good may be different but all those guys are positive impact players and only wiggins is playing out of his mind (really just with his 3p shooting tho). porters always been this guy, his shooting numbers are on par with his career averages same w bjelica. gp2 isnt doing anything crazy, just playing great defense and cutting backdoor at the right time and hitting the open corner 3 on occasion. pooles shooting numbers are avg and could tick up going against bench units. iggy has missed half the season and is shooting 24% from 3. idk nothing seems like a major outlier to me.

they wont make any moves this season unless another injury happens

porter is theoretically the most legit player out of them but the thing with him is he just hasnt been healthy in like five years, idk if you told me all those guys were getting rotation minutes for a contender i would be skeptical

every contender has dudes like that tho.

warriors just have a lot of them, and theyre not a top heavy multiple mvp candidates team either

unless you ask quinn snyder i guess lol

Dray is for sure playing at an all-nba level this season tho

they have not that different of a team than could absolutely not put the ball through the hoop last year

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 11:48 AM (forty-one minutes ago)

on a basic level this is just untrue tho.

top 8 in minutes last year:

curry
wiggins
draymond
oubre jr
wiseman
toscano-anderson
bazemore
poole

oubre, wiseman, and bazemore were all terrible for them and have all played zero minutes for them this year. toscano-anderson is a borderline NBA player and is tenth in minutes for them this year. so they've turned over half their rotation basically. dumping those guys and replacing their minutes w/ guys like igoudala and porter -- going from below average/actively harmful to average/actively useful -- is a huge change, and tbh it was evident in the first game they played this year (vs the lakers) that putting decent pros who can play their system was going to be a major difference for them. and poole has taken on way more minutes and is better than he was last year, he can make plays as a secondary scorer which they just didn't have last year, this is also pretty obvious to me.

now, whether they can win the finals, i think that's totally up for debate. personally i still have the bucks and nets at the front of the line and i'm not sure any of the west teams can beat either of them in a 7 game series. but i would put the warriors as currently constructed as the favorites to come out of the west. i wouldn't say huge favorites and they could not afford an injury to steph but they're back to playing death line up style warriors basketball again and there's a track record even pre-durant of that being a finals level team

Exactly

are porter and iggy better players than oubre? i dont think so, which is the thing were talking about

it’s just one game and they’re gonna need good health but this warriors team kinda feels night and day from where they were last year.

poole gives them someone else in the starting line up who can do something the ball, and lee can score a bit off the bench. and then just putting guys like igoudala and bjelica in the rotation who are actually competent NBA players is such a step up from a lot of what they we’re running out last year. no wiseman, no oubre, no paschall, no nico mannion

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, October 20, 2021 12:34 AM (two months ago)

i posted this on opening night

Dray is for sure playing at an all-nba level this season tho

― Spottie, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 12:48 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he has been killing it def

the other thing is that the dubs have just had extremely good health at a time where most teams have had very bad health

this is looking like a down year in the west and their core is indeed old, they should absolutely be trying to upgrade this team.

are porter and iggy better players than oubre? i dont think so, which is the thing were talking about

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 12:51 PM (twenty-seven seconds ago)

completely stripped of context, no. but w/ the warriors absolutely. oubre shot 31% on 6 threes per game last year, he was flat out bad for them, couldn't hit a shot, was just not a good player. he's been much better this year in charlotte & has had better shooting years previously so maybe it was just a bad year but he just didn't seem to play their style, not really a high IQ player, has never totaled even 2 assists per game in his career. they're better off w/ iggy and porter style guys who can keep the offense moving & getting the ball to the right ppl. also porter is shooting 40% on threes this year, which is right in line w/ his career number. that shooting ability alone makes him >>>> than oubre for the warriors in the sense that they primarily need role players who can make open shots

Oubre seemed like a bad system fit. I remember him getting pulled a lot after bad swings.

every year teams like the warriors sign a bunch of minimum guys and they're all crapshoots--this year the warriors have gotten insanely lucky to have a bunch of those guys work and stay healthy so far. another reason to upgrade this year's team.

My big question is whether Wiseman will ever be good. I'm not sure he has the mean disposition that is usually needed in a big man.

i'm actually stunned that oubre's career high in assists per game is 1.6, which happened four years ago. lol. like, i never thought of him as a distributor but damn.

i just think it's hard to overstate how obvious it was lsat year that steph was a one man offense and how different that is from this year

the thing is all those bench guys as mentioned before are just not that good, the fit might be better but i mean adding some guy who struggled to get minutes in sacramento, a guy whos had a fork in him so long the fork fell out, and a guy who hasnt been healthy in five years generally doesnt take you from bottom third to top five offensive team, which is why i think its unsustainable, tho there was def an aspect of them running cold/having bad luck last year so they prob werent actually that bad, but still just on talent theyre pretty clearly playing over their heads so far

also worth noting this is the no 1 defense in the NBA by a full point in defensive rating. no 4 offense, no 1 defense, championship pedigree on the roster and w/in the organization, top 3 offensive player in the league, top 3 defensive player in the league, good role players, i wouldn't overthink this in terms of considering them a genuine title contender

the role players are not actually good, the defense is legit tho

well you're focusing on porter iggy and bejilica but biggest thing is really the emergence of poole and there's nothing much that you can say about that other than he's a first round pick who has developed into a really useful scorer for a team that desperately needed someone else who could do anything w/ the ball to scare the defense. i don't think there's smoke and mirrors there it's just a major player development win for the organization. the rest is mostly just replacing bad players/bad fits w/ good fits who don't hurt you

the trade that i would be trying to make if i was the warriors would be wiseman, moody, whatever other assets to indiana for sabonis and then re-routing sabonis to charlotte for hayward or toronto for siakam, or somewhere else to a team who needs/wants a good center under contract for another borderline all star level wing/big guard (jaylen brown?)

oh you want to make a trade now

the celtics are not trading brown for sabonis fwiw

also the warriors cant really trade for more than ~$20m of salary without including wiggins

borderline all star level wing/big guard (jaylen brown?)

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 4, 2022 1:10 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

jaylen brown 50-11-4 (ot)

― lag∞n, Sunday, January 2, 2022 8:53 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

they should definitely go all in with a trade but it would also be very classic warriors hubris to sit pat

jaylen is also a ball stopper and might not fit that well anyway

yeah i mean they have iggy anyway

i said when we were talking about sabonis trades recently that if i was the warriors i'd def be trying to find an all star level wing or guard to ward against iggy and porter injuries, wiggins slumping, and/or poole having first time in the playoffs struggles. if they can trade players who don't play for them for a player at the hayward/siakam level i def think that they should do that.

i don't think they're title favorites as i just said, i think the bucks and nets are heavy favorites against any team from the west. but i don't think the warriors *need* to make a trade to get out of the west and if they get into the finals they obv have a chance of winning it.

i'm looking at basketball reference here and it says jaylen brown has made one all star game in 5 seasons. will check back again later.

yeah yeah

all things being equal i think the suns prob smoke the dubs in the playoffs as things stand now, and theres still time for other west teams to get their acts together

in full knowledge of being trolled i will say that at age 25 jaylen brown is currently putting together his third straight allstar worthy season

i think the suns could beat them. if warriors have home court tho i would favor them.

suns are just so much more solid, it would be a ridiculous defensive battle but ultimately i think the suns could completely shut down the dubs where the dubs could only mostly shut down the suns, however if klay is back to his old self i prob like the dubs

i don't think the celtics will trade jaylen but if you were going to shake up the team sabonis would be a pretty good option, he's young, productive, signed for 2 more seasons, would prob be willing to extend there, re-orients the structure of the team. celtics would want some more stuff but i don't think it's crazy. trade rob williams for a PG or wing

all things being equal i think the suns prob smoke the dubs in the playoffs as things stand now, and theres still time for other west teams to get their acts together

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 11:21 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

if the celtics did want to shake things up and trade jaylen which they should absolutely not (unless there are unsolvable personality conflicts behind the scenes which there could be) they could do much better than sabonis, i mean sabonis is a nice player but he also has huge holes in his game and is a weird fit almost anywhere, where jaylen is exactly the player that every team wants

what the celtics should do is keep jaylen and jayson two players that any team would want and build a better and more fitting roster around them which admittedly isnt that easy but is also not impossible

maybe those guys just arent that good toegther tho

i dont thats exactly it but it can appear to be it, tho theyre not a perfect fit, i think the issue is that theyre both poor playmakers, and then the rest of the roster is also over all poor in that area, and this year their backcourt is also bad at shooting, i think the solution is to upgrade the rosters passing and shooting

suns are just so much more solid, it would be a ridiculous defensive battle but ultimately i think the suns could completely shut down the dubs where the dubs could only mostly shut down the suns, however if klay is back to his old self i prob like the dubs

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 1:28 PM (two minutes ago)

the suns defense across the board def bothers the dubs to some degree, they can switch and have length, guys who can mess w/ steph. i see the argument. i also think the suns aren't an elite offensive team, against very good defenses there becomes tons of pressure on 37 year old chris paul to do a lot of work. we saw the cracks against the bucks. booker had to hit a bunch of really really hard shots to even keep them afloat. i think we do have to keep in mind that last year the suns went through a broken down lakers team, a nuggets team w/o murray and then a clippers team w/o kawhi. i think this playoffs will be a different kind of test for them.

the trade the celtics im sure are thinking about is getting ben simmons without giving up either jay, a three team deal something like a bunch of picks and al horf going to a third team, good player from third team and smart to philly

personally i still have the bucks and nets at the front of the line and i'm not sure any of the west teams can beat either of them in a 7 game series.

this seems insane to me given how the best 3 teams in the league this year are from the west

yeah that's all fine and wonderful but the playoffs are a different game

cant count the champs out they havent been playing their best but that is an extremely stout team, particularly if theyve learned their lesson from last year and are ready to go full center giannis at the drop of a hat, and the nets are obvs high variance but if they get their big three rolling and kyrie somehow is allowed to play at home they could absolutely crush, or likewise implode, dont think id put them second too many bad vibes but they are for sure a big threat

id prob bet on the bucks rn if i had to then the suns but this year is pretty open imo

it's nice that the net ratings have the best three teams in the west but this bucks regular season basically hasn't counted, from a statistical POV, so i'm not even sure what to say to that

the nets are the more vulnerable of the two, especially healthwise. i still give them the nod over all the west teams... the suns or warriors would be a good series, 6 or 7 games i'm sure, either team def *could* win. a top end version of the nets if that's what we get is better than those teams tho. i don't consider the jazz a legitimate title contender personally

no one should

theyve proved it repeatedly

based on what we saw last year you might have to put the clippers even without kawhi as the no 3 team in the west and maybe they do end up getting him back (i doubt it)

one of mj's greatest accomplishments was denying that bumass franchise and state a title twice, he rly needs to be honored for that

xp

denver and clippers are dark horses with getting guys back from injury, unlikely theyll pull it together but not impossible, philly is in the mix with the right simmons trade

its wide open

not sure how anyone could trust the nets at this point. weve got ~2 seasons of evidence now that their big 3 likely wont be playing at the same time when it matters.

denver is tough for me i don't think they have the horses if porter is out and murray is still not fully at his peak. the clippers had proof of concept last year w/ no kawhi tho i think the reggie jackson/terrance mann show was prob a fluke ultimately to that degree

not sure how anyone could trust the nets at this point. weve got ~2 seasons of evidence now that their big 3 likely wont be playing at the same time when it matters.

― Spottie, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 2:14 PM (three minutes ago)

this is fair and might be a fatal flaw of theirs that said KD is arguably the no 1 playoff player right now and that has to carry a lot of weight. they may have won the title w/ harden on 0.5 hamstrings last year if they got past the bucks

the nets big 3 being healthy for the offs isnt out of the question at all, only one of the three thats fully injury prone is kyrie and hes had a lot of rest lol, tho the cause of that rest may actually put the title out of reach

kd has missed like 3 full seasons

and a chunk of last season

its true but besides those big injuries he played a lot

kyrie is the one where you just never know if youre about to lose him for two weeks

i hear any argument against the nets that boils down to "this whole situation is too volatile and for 100 diff reasons i just don't see this resulting in a title." for me, i think last postseason went about as bad as could be expected for them in terms of injuries, outright losing kyrie and losing harden for a significant chunk and having him be severely hobbled and largely ineffective when he came back. but they handled it way better than i expected, i would have said they were dead in the water under those circumstances but they ended up taking the champs as close to the brink as you possibly could take a team. if their injury luck is in any way better than it was last year, that makes them dangerous to me, based on what we saw KD + crippled james harden + random guys do.

of course if they lose KD it's a wrap for them but that's true for any team that loses their best player in the playoffs for any significant amount of time

yeah i mean theres a def non zero chance they have their 3 guys healthy for the offs and if that happens theres a very good chance they just crush everyone

you guys believe way too much in james harden

yeah that's all fine and wonderful but the playoffs are a different game

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 4, 2022 1:53 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

right generally speaking the best teams tend to do the best in the playoffs iirc

unless its the jazz or various other similar teams

eh only one team can win per year. generally you just want to be good to maximize your chances

only one team can win and its not the jazz

right as history has shown with the jordan bulls lebron heat giannis bucks etc

generally if you don’t win your first year or two as a good team tom you can’t win ever

some teams just have fatal playoff flaws that are pretty obvious

you guys believe way too much in james harden

― Spottie, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 2:49 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

im not one to minimize hardens many playoff failures but it is worth noting that he came very close to some might say one cp3 hammy away from winning it all already and i do think that the nets version of harden (more passing less hoisting) is more playoff sustainable

yes until in retrospect it turns out the playoffs are as probabilistically determined as everything else in life

xp

of which your interceding post demonstrates an astute understanding

the problem with stats isnt so much a problem with stats as it is a problem with philosophy

anyway rudy gobert the player in which the jazz scheme is largely built around is easily exploited by any good team with then motivation to, maybe some day lottery balls with drop from heaven and change this fact, but probably not

the best teams tend to do better in the playoffs but the teams in the east have kevin durant and the giannis this is an important thing to remember

the playoffs are a different game is something that is said often but unlike many axioms its also true

anyway rudy gobert the player in which the jazz scheme is largely built around is easily exploited by any good team with then motivation to, maybe some day lottery balls with drop from heaven and change this fact, but probably not

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 3:32 PM (three minutes ago)

also they can't defend the perimeter at all it's actually quite a bad way to build a team for the playoffs can't just have guys knifing into the paint at will 50 times per game

it wouldn't shock me if the jazz came out of the west especially depending on how injuries shake out. but i don't think they can beat the bucks or the nets they just don't have the high end talent, imo, and are too exploitable based on how they're constructed, think that would be a pretty clean finals for either of the east teams

upgrading their perimeter defensive talent would definitely help but part of the problem there does imo go back to gobert in that in the modern game you want a center who has the ability to rotate out to the perimeter and gobert does not so they built this old fashioned D where everything is funneled to him in the paint which teams can render inoperative by going small, then as weve discussed they dont even have the strategic counter of gobert taking advantage of a small team by dunking on them on the other end since he has zero ball skills

the funny thing about the money ball nba era with all the high variance hoisting where over matched teams have a prayer is dunks are still dunks baby, shots that you shoot 99% on are very low variance, start letting teams get to the rim and you could play a hundred series and never win

stats guy: a bounce here and bounce there can swing a series between what are ultimately teams with razor thin edges

me: the famous basketball rim is soul death for defense

the jazz are basically a very nice sports car you only can drive in good conditions and they have an additional problem which is that there are almost no improvement candidates on their roster. donovan mitchell has been having basically the same season for a couple years now.

mitchell could still improve or just have a great year and theyd still need to solve the gobert problem which is unsolvable

prob the best approach to the gobert problem is to surround him with great dynamic defenders but unfortunately the jazz are very far from that

mitchell doesn't need to have better years than he's having for them to get high seeds. they're made to punish bad teams and collect regular season wins. and it could still work for a playoff run too with some health, matchup luck, a mitchell hot streak, etc. but they haven't made it easy on themselves by going all-in on very specific ways of playing offense and defense.

if they were to somehow draw four rounds of opponents decimated by injuries it wouldnt even count imo, much like the lakers bubble championship

ben simmons for conley/ingles works in the machine

i think ultimately we can look at this through the lens of karma, having one of your main guys not be able to do anything good with the basketball summons cursed vibes

the celtics were spared this hex via bill russell being a great outlet passer, and from all that happening in the beforetime

also he started the corona virus xp

otm

simmons and gobert offense is a nightmare concept

the jazz *do* have a player in mitchell who can score against loaded up playoff defenses making crazy contested shots and can get to the rim/foul line. that's not nothing... he shot 43% on 11.5 threes per game last playoffs. the issue to me is that he's still not better at that than steph or booker, so even at the high end they get trumped by the dubs and suns, and those other teams are better constructed and more malleable than the jazz. they're in a tier below the suns and dubs for me who are prob in a tier below the east teams

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32994009/perfect-fit-us-golden-state-warriors-reclamation-former-no-1-pick-andrew-wiggins

Thanks for posting that :)

klay back 2moro

After 941 days away from game, Warriors’ Klay Thompson announces he will make season debut Sunday against the Cavaliers in the Bay Area. https://t.co/3M9nORJXcL

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) January 8, 2022

bless

I didn't find out til today that he actually uses his boat to get to and from Chase Center.

Clearing my schedule. Also, got more dubs tix for 1/20 (a friend's school had a block for a fundraiser)! Looking forward to some balling.

The most underrated klay moment by far

pic.twitter.com/ancICb1OHl

— Jared Gross (@jaredmgross) January 8, 2022

lmao

nice article on Klay & getting through rehab ... hyped to see him play again

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/warriors/article/He-never-gave-up-How-Klay-Thompson-endured-16760192.php

fyi
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfchronicle.com%2Fsports%2Fwarriors%2Farticle%2FHe-never-gave-up-How-Klay-Thompson-endured-16760192.php

Welcome back Klay. He didn’t look too rusty. In fact looked pretty damn good. Dunks, 3s, defense…

Yah looked pretty sharp. Didn’t look to pass once lol

"they pay me to shoot"

Apparently Kerr drew up that first play for Klay to kick it out but he took the shot anyway.

of course haha

dubs going through a tough stretch and got the bucks n bulls up next. need dray back asap and/or curry to snap out of it.

klay looks pretty good all thing considered. Iggy looks considerably more cooked since coming back from injury. GP2 should probably be playing 30 minutes per game honestly.

but perspective if you woulda said to me last year that 40 games into the season they'd be 30-10 with klay just coming back i'd take that any day.

idk feel like it could be a good time to ease back work klay in get guys rest, and maybe if they lose some games management will make a trade

in fact i think kerr and the team should engage in a conspiracy of losing for this purpose

thye should def take it easy. they proved theyre still a contender and now just need to get right for the playoffs and get dray/klay/curry used to playing together again

yeah theyve had their foot on the gas all season

they should still try to get one of indys guys for wiseman tho

wiseman has to show something first he has pretty much zero value rn. and if he does show something then joey lightyears isnt trading him no way in hell

i would trade for wiseman

big rob? sounds good

lol rob would be nice for the warriors

Yes

Think Steph might need a meditation retreat. Vow of silence for a week type thing.

they were saying this is his 11th worst slump/stretch. probably just feels worse than it is.

steph for MPJ who says no

MPJ and crypto stuff

Haha throw some doge coin in

dray out at least a couple weeks with a back/calf thing. dubs need to dump chioza and find a big on a two way asap

he does things this team has never had

Jonathan Kuminga last 5 games (24.6 mpg):

16.8 pts
48% fg
33% 3pt
6.6 rebs
1.2 ast
.6 stl
.8 blk
1.4 to

— Grant Liffmann (@GrantLiffmann) January 19, 2022

put him on my fantasy team two days ago, don't fail me now

I know it was lolpistons but it was thrilling seeing him and Steph working on their two-man game last night.

Having Iggy and JTA on the court and Kuminga on the bench at the end of the 4th and OT is malpractice. Kerr was outcoached by Carlisle all night.

Yeah that was pretty pathetic by the dubs to lose to a bunch of nobodies. Dray is clearly the key to everything.

this was yesterday and now klay didnt practice today

“Nothing too concerning” is usually cause for concern https://t.co/ShP2MWLB3d

— Marcus Thompson (@ThompsonScribe) January 24, 2022

it's a good time for it tbh

yeah mid season is good for this as long as all the issues arent serious. but even if one of them is then the margin for error becomes non-existent. wiseman is likely not good this year anyway but they seriously just need another big body to throw in there right now. they are asking so much of looney.

thats a lot of injuries, not great

looney breaking down before the playoffs does feel like a likelihood, they still need a big guy

So tomorrow I'm gonna miss Klay and Dray? Back to Curry and the Gang I guess.

It’s fun if curry is his normal self but ugly when not. A lot of folks claim it’s the new rotation, might be worth going back the old one that’s worked for so long, just for a bit at least to see.

maybe not too concerning

Klay Thompson will play and start tonight against the Mavs.

— Kendra Andrews (@kendra__andrews) January 26, 2022

Baby_fist_pump.gif!!!

Sick

Speaking of sick:

Here’s that huge Jonathan Kuminga dunk to punctuate the night for the Warriors pic.twitter.com/v6di5APlPE

— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) January 26, 2022

love how happy he is after

Dude has the best smile

Klay had like 4 behind the back bounce passes for assists tonight lol

this was a fun stretch, easily klays best game so far. he played in the flow and wasnt forcing anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsHvvnUtxRc

they had him guarding doncic too at least the part i watched

yeah

he was so pumped with those magic thompson behind the back passes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHVS2PpR_r4

hes just been working on behind the back passes and going on his boat for the last two years

If you're wondering how Andrew Wiggins became an NBA All-Star, the answer genuinely might be a K-Pop star named BamBam, who the Warriors very strategically named their "global ambassador" last monthhttps://t.co/xbC7h7uy0F

— Alex Shultz (@AlexShultz) January 28, 2022

lol the world is so stupid

Splash bros were splashing tonight love to see it

this is a must listen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zimngZdtUNg

the clippers rivalry talk is so good.

they was splashin'

wolves should probably understand that 42% from the floor and 22% from three isn't exactly gonna cut it when you're playing the warriors

they stopped feeding KAT in the 2nd half

be good if kuminga finds something other than a spin move.

Steph did things tonight. 20 in the 4th. KPJ fired him up talking crazy and getting in his face.

Locced in. 😂 competing against the best gotta bring yo shit! No cap 😂🤞🏾 steph is steph haha

— Scoot (@Kevinporterjr) February 1, 2022

The Warriors will face the Spurs without four of their five starters, and then some. pic.twitter.com/8LnyXJ4YhU

— Kerith Burke (@KerithBurke) February 1, 2022

cool

poole might get 30 shots up tonight

been a while since we've seen a genuine curry flurry. play of the game was beating tate on the jump ball then relocating for the 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL2TLeJ77Hk

JTA is in the slam dunk contest... gotta admit I'd rather see GPII

yeah or even poole... or wiggins?

(or ja morant)

he might be too high profile now!

no one wants to dunk anymore, sad

maybe they should do it with randoms that sign waivers to get dunked on so it give the feel of an in-game dunk.

i get that if you suck at the dunk contest it will be bad for your brand, just too much at stake, but also that sucks

its also just played out humans can only jump so high thats why you saw guys start using props which is lame

yeah my last real memories of the dunk contest are all the mid-late 00s dwight cape and blake over the kia type garbage, total shenanigans not even dunking really

fact: the 2016 lavine v ag was the goat dunk contest

i agree that one was great but i don't really remember it bc dunking was already killed dead it's very sad all around

you mean that one had a goat (the animal) in it, i can believe it

ja should dunk over his giraffe

probably the only thing that would get me to watch the dunk contest

Warriors tied NBA record with lowest jersey total in NBA history with 00, 0, 1, 2, and 3 @unstoppablebaby @warriors @kendra__andrews @ESPNStatsInfo @anthonyVslater pic.twitter.com/N8RaFuvMMe

— Joe Rodenberger (@Noelsdaman) February 2, 2022

ok that's actually pretty impressive

Chiozza with team high +17. Must be voodoo.

That jersey number stat is lol. Hard to believe another team had number that low. How many teams have a 0 and 00 ?

the minnes0ta timberw00lves

how the hell'd'we win that one

(yes i know poole traveled)

that was such a fun game to watch. everyone was hitting shots.

that sequence after the go ahead shot by dejounte (1 min in) was so hectic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFy_lruUuoA

We love to see Kevon winning on and off the court! ❤️ Save some for Mariah!! 🤣 https://t.co/txGrDto05G

— See's Candies (@seescandies) February 3, 2022

haha

I wonder what the average IQ is of the Golden Warrior fans--dozens of them--who follow me on Twitter thinking I'm the GM named Bob Myers, after checking my profile which says I'm a computer programmer. Then they dive right in tweeting about trades they think I should make.

— Bob Myers (@bobmyers) February 11, 2022

warriors seem to be developing kuminga the right way

Jonathan Kuminga, per 100 possessions relative to the 6 players drafted ahead of him:

Kuminga: 26.8 pts, 59.1% TS
Cunningham: 24.0 pts, 48.9% TS
Green: 22.6 pts, 51.5%
Mobley: 21.8 pts, 54.7% TS
Barnes: 20.3 pts, 53.6% TS
Suggs: 21.7 pts, 46.2% TS
Giddey: 19.4 pts, 47.8% TS

— Brady Klopfer (@BradyKlopferNBA) February 17, 2022

You all loved Kuminga with 18 points in less than 5 dribbles.

Klay famously scored 60 on 11 dribbles. Legendary.

Well Warriors twitter, how about James Wiseman with 25 points on ZERO dribbles. pic.twitter.com/2qRiSg2pgv

— r/Warriors (@GSWReddit) February 14, 2022

forgot about that game... how about the rest of the season tho lol

Probably not a lot of dribbles there either hehe

Klay Thompson shot 45.6% from three in February, averaging 19.3 PPG. That's one hell of a month for a player coming off of two major injuries.

— Bryce Hendricks (@BryceHendrick14) March 1, 2022

tomorrows game vs the lakers feels like a must win lol

the only thing the dubs really must do is get dray back

and klay more playing time, and weirdly... iggy? They need wiseman too tbf they are just very short on most nights and getting killed inside. even if its just ten minutes.

but yes draymond is to the defense what steph is to the offense

Draymond runs the offense too, clearly.

I worry about my man. I have the same issue (disc causing tightness in my lower legs) and it SUCKS. So far I'm two surgeries in and it's worse than ever.

damn sorry to hear that, and yeah back issues are not the best

dang DJI thats not good!

may your pt bring you clarity

Thanks! I just wish I had Celebrini to work on it.

dray, wiseman, iggy all back next week.

I don't see how Wiseman helps out this year other than being a big body to lessen the load on Dray and Loon in meaningless games. I'd be shocked if he got any playoff minutes that weren't a result of roster attrition.

yeah pretty tough for anyone to miss most of the year and step in and play well let alone a young guy

Let alone a young big man who's only played like 40 combined college and NBA games. Seems like most dubs fans forget that aside from some athletic flashes he was mostly bad last season. It's gonna take him some time to learn how to play NBA defense.

yeah even if he was healthy this year no guarantee hed be a playoff contributor

yeah im more excited just to have him back, dont see him doing much at all but hopefully can catch some lobs and be a big body out there. he needs reps!

That he does.
The Steph/Klay/Poole/Moody/Kuminga lineup near the end of the game last night was interesting to see. Almost felt like Myers/Lacob told Kerr to try it out some time in garbage time.

kerr said he likes having steph klay poole out there together. the offense looks killer with those three. depending on what you need you can add any combination of dray / wiggs / otto / gp2 / moody / kuminga as the other two. once everyones healthy theres going to be some flexibility in those lineups, should be a lot of fun.

poole had some finishes last night that were so sweet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zr6MQZITRI
hes really creative

https://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2022/3/8/22968469/warriors-clippers-steph-curry-klay-thompson-jordan-poole-film-breakdown

pumped 4 steph/klay/dray back together tonight for the first time in nearly 3 years. these guys gotta get at least one more together.

also steph is 34 today :(

Oof. Tonight is going to be great, tho!

Ron Adams sighting! Showing these young guns how it’s done on the free throw line. pic.twitter.com/MfWqywSvzu

— Kerith Burke (@KerithBurke) March 15, 2022

sick

Warriors have plenty of fun players for watching but Poole has climbed the ranks this season

RT if you can see Jordan Pooles potential pic.twitter.com/5n7TkDCYYH

— DEVINTHELAB (@InTheLabBrand) March 16, 2022

Wiseman thing is not good

Jfc the dubs just can’t shoot anymore. Magic just letting them hoist.

its ugly. weird season since the hot start. wiggins gave it 1/2 a good season.

i think klay just needs to keep shooting until he gets his timing locked in and consistent. gonna be tough that the preferred playoff rotation hasnt been available for even one game this season. hard to predict what this team looks like once the playoffs start. im losing confidence tho

I saw Poole limp off, which is the last thing they need.

yeah too many injuries a lot of things need to line up, not impossible tho

Didn’t see the game but only scoring 90 vs Orlando not great. Think Wiggins hit his life goal before the All-Star break and now is just shrug

One of the worst losses of the season. They can’t just win a game with one good quarter like the good ol days.

Steve Kerr: "...we have to learn how to win, and right now we don't know how to win."

— TheWarriorsTalk (@TheWarriorsTalk) March 23, 2022

guess they dont care where they end up in the seeding huh

The Warriors are resting Klay Thompson, Draymond Green and Otto Porter Jr. tonight in Miami. Second night of a back-to-back.

— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) March 23, 2022

looks like the heat might be resting butler & herro too

everyone jockeying for playoff positioning got to love it baby

it's sort of weird given how important seedings can be in the playoffs how many teams are willingly resting players right now. the sixers sat embiid the other night and have been resting harden, the bucks sat giannis the other night and middleton last night. i guess in the east those teams might be trying to dodge the 2 seed but i feel like these teams get too testosteroney confident and don't want to admit that trying to set yourself up for a weaker path is smarter

it reminds me of last season when the heat were like "yeah we're not scared of the bucks bring it on" and then got nuked off the face of the earth when if they had won literally one more game in the regular season they would've had the knicks in round 1

yeah i would be trying to get the 1 seed personally

it's sort of weird given how important seedings can be in the playoffs how many teams are willingly resting players right now. the sixers sat embiid the other night and have been resting harden, the bucks sat giannis the other night and middleton last night. i guess in the east those teams might be trying to dodge the 2 seed but i feel like these teams get too testosteroney confident and don't want to admit that trying to set yourself up for a weaker path is smarter

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, March 23, 2022 11:55 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah the warriors avoiding the suns until the wcf should be top priority but maybe they are more worried about the grizz idk. at this point they just need to be getting reps in with klay on the team so it just seems dumb. or at least stagger those guys... or play them against the BETTER team and let the role players try to beat the magic. idk.

ESPN Sources: Golden State Warriors center James Wiseman has been ruled out for the rest of the season and will continue rehabilitating his right knee. Wiseman has been recovering from a meniscus repair last April, and the team has been cautious to protect him for the long-term.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) March 25, 2022

dubs not getting a back up big was a very poor choice

very hubris

wasted roster spot with chiozza makes no sense that they didnt upgrade to a big

Warriors stink yuck

they are in serious need of a karma reset. or mean reversion.

I don't understand why Kuminga is on such a short leash and Moody is DNP while Lee is getting so much run.

I don’t think Kerr sees either of them being in the playoff rotation. Maybe Kuminga in some games and if he’s contributing they’ll let him go but a couple mistakes and he’ll be yanked.

Biggest prob is Dray doesn’t look like playoff Dray. He started the season as the best version of himself and he’s just coming back and getting into shape. But that injury could affect him for a while. I still believe in this roster but the margin for error is thin and they’re gonna have a lot to figure out on the fly.

Andre makes it sound like there was another reasonable plan…but that can’t be right pic.twitter.com/IUWnSjLJst

— fakelogic (@fakelogic) March 28, 2022

It disrespects the former era? Lol go dust your wine collection you old goat

its funny but also maybe a little telling about how the vets feel about the situation?

it is true that they could have just gone with one timeline

cut him and sign a center, problem solved

"disrespectful" is a dumb word choice but "choosing not to maximize the changes of a championship," yeah absolutley

it is kind of disrespectful not of iggy but of steph which prob is what he was saying

yeah

not sure what else we would expect from silicon valley billionaires who think theyre light years ahead cause some stuff broke their way

if u move fast and break things stuff breaks worth noting

it is kind of disrespectful not of iggy but of steph which prob is what he was saying

― lag∞n, Monday, March 28, 2022 12:55 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes this is it. and iggy is stephs mouthpiece in some ways.

What's the move or the moves they should have made? Trade Wiseman for Thad Young or something? Who is the 10-mil player that couldn't have created a more respectful situation?

could've

three high draft picks in the last two years

it's kind of a pointless way of talking about it to say that i know what moves could/should have been made but usually the 2nd and 7th picks can be exchanged for present value.

idk who they woulda or coulda got but theyve had assets to trade and havent done it. wiseman for sure, one of the picks from last year, this years pick, future picks. whatever. its not like they have to go full a vet team but carrying three rookies and another young guy that needs time to develop (poole) just shows they are more concerned (or at least equally concerned) with the future as they are with winning now and over the next couple years. and you gotta think the vets are a little hmmm about it all.

trying to not rebuild after winning a title is very difficult but the allure of it is pretty obvious -- it's the best of both worlds! -- and of course most front offices let alone one as successful as the warriors will think they'll be the ones who can pull it off. in all likelihood the warriors will not accomplish the twin goals of winning a title now and also setting themselves up to win a title in the future, i feel like you kind of have to accept that as a fan. but then again most teams are also currently neither going to win a title or set themselves up to win one in the future so it's not that unusual. the spurs tried to hang on after duncan retired and ended up in the rebuilding phase anyway. it's totally understandable why steph, iggy etc want them to trade everything to go all in this year, also understandable why the front office has a longer term view. i don't think anyone is really in the wrong here, just competing perspectives and priorities.

personally i have real doubts about whether wiseman had any value at the trade deadline, he was (is) hurt and hasn't played all year and wasn't that good when he did play. i'm sure teams were trying to buy low on him but the idea that the warriors could have acquired a game changing player w/ him as anything more than a secondary piece, i don't see it. i haven't seen much of moody personally, but i understand why they don't want to trade kuminga. he looks like he could help them in this year's playoffs while providing all the possible upside that comes after it.

also when you look at who actually moved over the deadline, i don't see anyone the warriors could have or should have been in on. caris lavert? sabonis? cj mccollum? norm powell? josh hart? we talked about sabonis previously and even if you think that fit made sense for them (i don't) i find it hard to believe they could've outbid the kings putting halliburton on the table. what the warrios could use imo is more wing players but the fact that guys like barnes and jerami grant didn't move seems like an indication that nobody in the NBA valued those guys at what those teams were asking for than any deficiency in the warriors plans.

tsk tsk jordan, that's "kind of a pointless way of talking about it"

it's totally understandable why steph, iggy etc want them to trade everything to go all in this year, also understandable why the front office has a longer term view. i don't think anyone is really in the wrong here, just competing perspectives and priorities.

i dont think this is the ask. theres a happy medium between having 4 babies to babysit vs having say... 2.

wiseman doesnt have trade value now which is why they shoulda traded the pick before draft night.

kuminga and poole are obviously keepers now. moody is good but could fetch something nice with a pick attached and some filler salary. wiseman the ship sailed so now you have to wait til he plays again.

Which filler salary? The rooks ARE the filler salaries.

wiggins

I think they might have gotten sued if they'd traded Wiggins while he was an antivax holdout.

I suppose they could've traded him at the deadline, around the time he was starting in the ASG. That would've been a great sell-high moment.

not sure anyone was convinced wiggins was a real all-star starter caliber player around then so much as we was a maybe slightly above average guy making way too much money

yeah if wiggins is your salary match you're prob throwing in so many assets to balance it out that unless you were getting a true all star player i'm not sure how much you're upgrading in the end

no rational fan thought he should be an all star starter, and he had a borderline case outside of that.

the jordan poole contract price keeps ticking up. interested to see how ownership deals with this insanity of their upcoming tax penalty payments.

they need their guys healthy or none of it matters, frankly

i do also think that having some information about how well they do in the playoffs this year will be important to them. let's say they make it to the west finals or push phoenix to a game 7 in the second round and almost knock them off, they might be willing to push more in for next season seeing some proof of concept which this team doesn't actually have as far as the playoffs go. and kuminga and moody prob have more value now than they did even at the deadline. but if they lose in the first round i'm sure they'll be hesitant to do anything w/ their young guys

not sure anyone was convinced wiggins was a real all-star starter caliber player around then

Sure, but has his value ever been higher? Probably not since his rookie year.

i don't know who in the NBA would really see wiggins as having value on his own given his contract. i think teams would find him an acceptable price to pay in order to receive other assets, but again that means if you're trading him there's a good chance you're losing the trade. the warriors prob understand this concept acutely

yeah my point was more that it's hard to sell high on a guy making 33.6 mil in 2023 if he's not perceived as a transcendent player

yeah. i mean, they would've been selling high on him, but it's definitely a relative kind of high. like... a nice little 6 story condo building.

hes an expiring next season so next year is the one to make the move

in other dubs news they are in a funk and play mem/phx/utah this week :(

hes an expiring next season so next year is the one to make the move

― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, March 28, 2022 3:25 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

bring harry b back

tsk tsk jordan, that's "kind of a pointless way of talking about it"

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, March 28, 2022 5:18 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

"moves available at the last trade deadline" is a bit of a different scope of discussion than "it was inevitable that the warriors would be on two timelines" which is i think how this started?

yeah u trade the picks before they become players

but they prob cldve done a decent deal at the deadline too

however if they had just drafted lamelo i wouldnt be questioning them lol but thats the nba draft for u baby

they went 15-50 the season before they drafted wiseman. i don't think it's crazy that they decided to keep a top 3 pick after that, the problem is yeah who they drafted.

they didn't even make the playoffs before taking kuminga and moody & kuminga looks like he could be a home run pick (even if franz wagner might still be better).

really they've taken the most conservative path, which is essentially doing nothing. they've just sat there and made their picks. you could make the argument it's been prudent and left them some flexibility, but who knows what was out there for them.

like i said earlier, i think this postseason will give them a lot of needed information about what to do moving forward that they haven't had in either of the last two seasons.

the idea that steph or the older era is being "disrespected" doesn't really scan for me. i mean, steph looked at the state of the franchise last summer and decided to sign a 4 year contract at a point when money is no longer an object to him. if the no. 1 most important thing to him in his career is winning a title he would've (or should've) looked elsewhere

i'm more sympathetic to iggy's point that it also does a disservice to the young players in terms of their development. i think for wiseman in particular it is a bad situation given that their second best player is a center and their system requires a high basketball IQ and he had only played like 3 games above high school before going there. but then again kuminga is fighting for minutes when everyone thought he was going to be a project so it would be hard to argue that his development is being stunted. it might just be up to the player.

i don't totally disagree with any of that but the fact remains that it's left them with the impossible task of threading together two different teams which we've talked about many times here. the wiseman pick, as it stands, is a disaster--i don't think anyone would have predicted this current state exactly but they took a developmental center in a bad draft and it's very hard for me to understand why they did that.

i think also that ultimately they gave their fans three titles incl one of the more fun organic nucleuses of a generation and one of the more unbeatable mini-dynasties of all time & if all they produce after that is the end of steph curry’s career and a few nice players for the future they haven’t really done anything “wrong”

dont talk about the warriors moves and how they have been bad steph shouldve just left if he didnt want then to be bad lol after all they had a season with a bad record

they did good moves before so whatre u gonna do keep doing good moves at some point just gotta move on

i kinda wonder what this team could do if they had drafted sengun instead of moody tbh

moody... looks pretty good imo, asking any rookie to be a real contributor is a lot tho

i think also that ultimately they gave their fans three titles incl one of the more fun organic nucleuses of a generation and one of the more unbeatable mini-dynasties of all time & if all they produce after that is the end of steph curry’s career and a few nice players for the future they haven’t really done anything “wrong”

― J0rdan S., Monday, March 28, 2022 9:56 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

they could compete for a couple more? like right now? if you have a window you have to capitalize or risk becoming the post jordan bulls or post nash suns. and whats different about this situation is they dont even need to leverage the WHOLE future. they have a couple young guys to build around while competing. 4 us just too many.

moody was looking great before his shoulder popped out.

4 us just too many.

I can see the argument against drafting four teenagers. They could have drafted guys who were more NBA-ready but with less upside.

For what it's worth, the Warriors have four guys under 25 or younger. The Grizzlies have 4 guys on their roster OVER 25.

if you have a window you have to capitalize or risk becoming the post jordan bulls or post nash suns.

i think history tells you that this is basically inevitable to some degree anyway. any team that pushes for a title for so many years is going to have to build it back up from the bottom once those guys leave. but i also think the warriors will basically guarantee that happens if they trade most of their young guys to "maximize the window" around stpeh, klay and dray. so i think i see it the opposite way. if you want to go all in for the current core that's cool but once those guys age out you're basically guaranteeing that you start from scratch, which is what they're trying to avoid, for better or worse. and they might fail on both accounts (not compete for a title but also not be good enough to avoid a major rebuild after), so maybe they should just push everything to the middle for the next two years and swallow the rebuilding pill since in all likelihood it's going to come in some form anyway. i think if the warriors are superficial contenders -- safely in the playoffs w/ a chance to make some noise but unlikely to -- while developing some youth for the the post-steph era given what they've done in the last decade... idk. making steph curry games baseline watchable is still a pretty fine outcome to me.

i think the one aspect that could really alter their future and how they plan for it is if they think or come to understand that they will be major players in the free agency/star trade market in the post-steph/klay/dray era because of their location, willingness to spend, and recent history of success. can they basically become the junior lakers? i don't think it's out of the question. but if that's the case then you're basically never looking to rebuild, ever, and you go ahead push in w/ this core w/ the belief that once you have an opening on your roster for a new set of stars, those guys will want to come to you. i think the lakers tried to earnestly rebuild post-kobe w/ the lonzo, ingram etc group and decided, prob w/ good reason, that such a thing is for the birds. i could see the warriors ending up in much the same place.

they want to be seen that way but its yet to be seen if they can do it, of course.

yeah. the clippers w/ balmer & a new arena complicate matters but i think california can support three star driven teams. SF will never be LA but i don't see why the warriors couldn't get in there

The Warriors would have to suck for a long time to struggle for support here.

If free agents don't want to live in SF, that's another story.

https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/Warriors-Andre-Iguodala-says-media-to-blame-17036640.php

"This is my second time playing here," Iguodala said after Monday's loss in Memphis. "I think that's just part of how sports and fans have become. They are more into the games with their emotions and feelings and obviously the narrative that can be driven, especially from those that are of wealth that control the media and are in ownership position. They can kinda control the narrative of how it goes out there."

This guy says some wild stuff sometimes

Fun fact:

Kevon Looney is 30th in the NBA in dunks with 81. He is 3 behind LeBron James.

— Grant Liffmann (@GrantLiffmann) March 30, 2022

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2022/3/30/23002662/jordan-poole-stephen-curry-golden-state-warriors

Dray rocking the GP2 jersey at practice pic.twitter.com/UYZ8D5FKcI

— Warriors on NBCS (@NBCSWarriors) April 1, 2022

4th q was wild

This is absolutely wild pic.twitter.com/1O7CdtTiS5

— Denver📈 (@doubledworth) April 3, 2022

Pooles last 16 games

https://imgur.com/a/NwExsk8

vintage klay sequence

good stuff seems like klay has a lil more boogie to his game than when we last saw him looks looser out there

Wow this is some insane trolling:

https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/Warriors-Kerr-should-consider-divorce-17058820.php

lol

The Deadspin-ification of SFGate continues

Haha wow. This is one of Kerr’s best coaching jobs imo.

klay is looking really good of late. first time in his career hes had three 30+ points games in a row
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hrmRu9OBjo

Inconclusive update on Curry's status for Game 1

https://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2022/4/12/23022572/warriors-release-steph-curry-update

lot of ambiguity, and there was no mention of a bone bruise until today :(

maybe i'm being too literal but i feel like lebron suffered this injury in the exact same way last season and took even more time off and came back for the playoffs and looked awful. so i'm a bit pessimistic about what kind of steph we'll see, but hoping i'm wrong

that was a high ankle sprain, the worst kind you can do. this is something else, its the mid foot area.

Yesterday was the first time they used the term "bone bruise"... that's a 1-2 month injury according to bing.com

dubs org has been super lame with their injury reporting this season

Yesterday was the first time they used the term "bone bruise"... that's a 1-2 month injury according to bing.com

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, April 13, 2022 11:32 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

game 1 will be 1 month from the injury

which game will it be for 2 months ;)

sadly, it wouldnt surprise me the way theyve been with injuries this year :(

Golden State Warriors star Stephen Curry (foot) is on track to make his return in Game 1 vs. Nuggets on Saturday as long as he clears team’s scrimmage today without issues, sources tell me and @anthonyVslater.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) April 14, 2022

nice

Seems kinds crazy how much everyone is discounting the Warriors' chances in the playoffs. Am I just being a homer, or do we have a decent chance here?

its just a lot to figure out on the fly so the skepticism is warranted. currys health (and shot?), drays health, iggys health, where is klay at really, will poole be able to keep doing what hes doing with everyone back and less shots to go around, how do steph/klay/dray look back together (not too worried about this), which wiggins will we see, can looney/dray survive a deep playoff run as our only two defensive bigs. every team has questions of course but these are a lot.

having said that, they do have the highest ceiling of any team in the playoffs imo. they were the best team in the league for the first ~third of the season and that was without klay. plus poole has grown even more.

i just wouldnt be surprised with just about any outcome in these playoffs. i do expect them to beat the nuggets tho.

they are extremely rickety for the type of run you need to have to go deep in the playoffs. you need 7-8 guys who can play big minutes at a high level every other day.

cad otm. the warriors were occasionally dazzling during the regular season, but not lately, and they have lots of unanswered questions about what kind of a playoff run they can muster.

Halfway through the 2nd was I think our first glimpse of the Steph/Poole/Klay/Wiggins/Dray lineup. That also happened to be when they pulled ahead and never looked back.

otm

Ya it looked good

"We gotta make sure we keep him on the team. He's the future," E-40 said about Jordan Poole on NBCSA. "Our team is so dope. All the other rappers jealous of me."

— Steve Berman (@BASportsGuy) April 17, 2022

i’m crying pic.twitter.com/byh0I1bqhk

— ✩ (@JPSZZN) April 18, 2022

There’s gotta be at least some people who follow me who will appreciate seeing this pic of Steph Curry and Bob Weir. pic.twitter.com/WR29cKUd0u

— Barry Petchesky (@barry) April 19, 2022

bay area legends

Ok when do we start Poole and move Curry to 6th man? :P

― DJI, Tuesday, January 4, 2022 9:20 AM (three months ago) bookmarkflaglink

apparently the answer was game one of the playoffs

It's working great! They should stick with it!

basketblolz

How do you guard @StephenCurry30?

Chuck and @TheJetOnTNT get into it 🍿 pic.twitter.com/MmW8EGKHf5

— NBA on TNT (@NBAonTNT) April 19, 2022

^ shaq saying "your job is effective communication" takes on an extra level of irony

haa theyre flustered just thinking about it

great analysis and discussion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWiYmtPM16A

“Jordan Poole… maybe the worst pick in the draft so far” (2019)pic.twitter.com/aIo6cAUnr3

— Complex Sports (@ComplexSports) April 22, 2022

haa love cold takes nice cameo by cam johnson too

so good

yesss

Andre Iguodala was signed last summer for what he could bring in the playoffs. Now, a neck injury is going to keep him out for at least the next week. And when he has been available, Iguodala hasn't totally looked like himself. Tough set of circumstances for the 38-year-old.

— Connor Letourneau (@Con_Chron) April 27, 2022

I figured he was signed more as a fan service/player-coach type deal. At least we don't have to see him trying to guard Boogie anymore.

dude is a master cutter and really smooth around the rim

Crazy stat from @Stathead: No player 6’4” or shorter has EVER shot at least 65% on at least 200 2-point attempts in a single season. @Garydwayne shot 75% on 2s this year! 🤯

How did he do it? By leading the NBA in points off cuts among all players shorter than 6'7" pic.twitter.com/77KZShokW9

— Lev Akabas (@LevAkabas) April 29, 2022

also got insane ups

That Curry defensive play on the morant drive got me hyped