2020 NBA Bubble Ball Finals: Lakers vs Heat - Who You Got?

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Lakers in 6 8
Lakers in 5 6
Heat in 6 5
Heat in 7 3
Little Kid Voice: "Lebron James" 2
Lakers in 4 2
Lakers in 7 1
Heat in 4 1
Heat in 5 0
Playoffs Suspended Due to Things of That Nature 0


Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:59 (seven months ago) link

Do you guys pay attention to, or take seriously, 538's basketball projections? They have Miami as a 73% favourite, which seems crazy to me, but they did pick the Raptors early in their playoff run last year, and stuck with them the whole way.

clemenza, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 17:16 (seven months ago) link

they had the celtics at 60% to win it all when there were still 5 teams left lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 17:24 (seven months ago) link

Yeah, they were all over the Celtics--they seem convinced the East is going to win.

clemenza, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 19:13 (seven months ago) link

me: "Lebron James"

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 19:15 (seven months ago) link

but my heart says: "Beat LA!"

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 19:51 (seven months ago) link

rooting heat, think lakers in 5 prob idk

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 22:30 (seven months ago) link

I'm thinking Lakers in 6 but possibly just lebron james, he's playing pretty inspired ball right now
still don't really enjoy the bullyball/instafoul nature of his game but damned if you don't have to respect it

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 01:06 (seven months ago) link

Seems weird to me for the Lakers to be here, I don't see any reason they wouldn't be the favorites though.

Not sure how much joy I'd get personally out of these Lakers winning the chip but hate them or not it was a traumatic start to the year for a lot of Laker fans, so good for them if they get this.

I'd like to see a long series lakers in 6

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 18:13 (seven months ago) link

Lakes in 5, my guess

Nhex, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 19:25 (seven months ago) link

LBJ with nothing but a team of misfits and mediocrities in Cleveland snatched a ring away from a great GSW team, so LBJ plus Ant Davis with a team full of misfits and mediocrities should def be considered the favorites.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 19:54 (seven months ago) link

i have no real prediction cos the bubble is a strange place but im saying heat in 6 for the helluvit

Spottie, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 20:48 (seven months ago) link

"lakers in 6" is trending

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 22:51 (seven months ago) link

its the safe easy bet

Spottie, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 23:00 (seven months ago) link

i have no read on this other than i've been wrong about everything involving the entire bubble so my pick is the lakers in somewhere between 4 and 7 games (inclusive)

Clay, Thursday, 1 October 2020 00:11 (seven months ago) link

i think the miami el heat will win

ciderpress, Thursday, 1 October 2020 00:16 (seven months ago) link

lakers in 7 but i wouldn't be shocked by the heat in 6 or 7

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 October 2020 00:19 (seven months ago) link

The Heat have a chance for sure.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 1 October 2020 00:27 (seven months ago) link

Lakers winning would be extremely depressing

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 October 2020 00:29 (seven months ago) link

Honestly after game 4 of the last series I don’t trust any team to beat the lakers ever

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 October 2020 00:30 (seven months ago) link

the refs will decide who wins

ciderpress, Thursday, 1 October 2020 00:30 (seven months ago) link

Ugh

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 October 2020 00:42 (seven months ago) link

bron and brow must be rebuked for uniting upon the lake with no lake

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 October 2020 01:21 (seven months ago) link

"frank vogel needs a timeout"

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 October 2020 01:24 (seven months ago) link

kentavious avignon-pope

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 October 2020 01:33 (seven months ago) link

man that extremely giant finals/youtube ad on center court is very bad

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 October 2020 01:35 (seven months ago) link

AD gonna feast this series

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 October 2020 01:39 (seven months ago) link

i picked lakers in 6

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Thursday, 1 October 2020 01:43 (seven months ago) link

i cant remember what i picked

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 October 2020 01:44 (seven months ago) link

You let the Lakers knock down open threes this will be over in four

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 October 2020 02:02 (seven months ago) link

yeah theyre getting some very easy looks

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 October 2020 02:03 (seven months ago) link

the heat look small out there

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 October 2020 02:11 (seven months ago) link

did someone grease up the basketball haha

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 October 2020 02:12 (seven months ago) link

so far doesnt seem good for the heat

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 October 2020 02:15 (seven months ago) link

i think the lakers will win

ciderpress, Thursday, 1 October 2020 02:23 (seven months ago) link

yes my earlier prediction is looking spot on

Clay, Thursday, 1 October 2020 02:30 (seven months ago) link

heat too small, do not have enough lebron jameses

Clay, Thursday, 1 October 2020 02:31 (seven months ago) link

lebron jameses are not evenly distributed across the league

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 October 2020 02:32 (seven months ago) link

i think it's a fact to which the league must wake up

Clay, Thursday, 1 October 2020 02:35 (seven months ago) link

will the heat dare to introduce meyers leonard to the game?

sknybrg, Thursday, 1 October 2020 02:38 (seven months ago) link

AD might have no ability to lead a team to this stage on his own without superstar help... but I don't think anyone in the league is more unstoppable or impactful on both ends once they're there than he is. Like Bam was looking like one of if not the best overall player in these Eastern conference playoffs... and AD has effortlessly dominated him while completely locking up half his team on defense.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Thursday, 1 October 2020 02:59 (seven months ago) link

lost the game, potentially lost Goran, and you're now a meme:

pic.twitter.com/xREKQ307EH

— rebekah entralgo fernández (@rebekahentralgo) October 1, 2020

frogbs, Thursday, 1 October 2020 03:22 (seven months ago) link

it will really suck if this turns out to be a noncompetitive finals

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 October 2020 03:24 (seven months ago) link

Goran thing totally sucks. Bubble playoffs started off so well...

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 October 2020 03:28 (seven months ago) link

yikes, this may be a sweep if goran is done

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 1 October 2020 03:54 (seven months ago) link

it will really suck if this turns out to be a noncompetitive finals

The fact of a first game blowout isn't all that indicative usually. Teams bounce back as a rule. What's much more troubling is the probable loss of Dragic and having Butler hobbled by an ankle injury. At the competitive level of an NBA Finals your starting five can't be half-crippled, especially your one and two options on offense..

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 1 October 2020 04:29 (seven months ago) link

torn plantar fascia for goran? :(

Clay, Thursday, 1 October 2020 04:42 (seven months ago) link

bam was hurt, too. legit sucks for the heat.

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Thursday, 1 October 2020 04:49 (seven months ago) link

Yikes these injuries...

Jimmy’s ankle turned and touched the ground no idea how he continued to play.

Spottie, Thursday, 1 October 2020 06:09 (seven months ago) link

welp

The Heat say Goran Dragic (left foot) and Bam Adebayo (MRI revealed a neck strain) are doubtful for Friday's Game 2 of the NBA Finals

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) October 1, 2020

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:13 (seven months ago) link

well that fucking sucks

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:15 (seven months ago) link

lEbroN hAd a cAkeWalk fOr This TiTLe

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:18 (seven months ago) link

but can he do this in the East?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:18 (seven months ago) link

gee this is kinda reminding me of last year's finals

frogbs, Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:27 (seven months ago) link

gross

Spottie, Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:51 (seven months ago) link

the miami hurt

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 1 October 2020 19:15 (seven months ago) link

i have never seen alex caruso fully close his mouth

call all destroyer, Saturday, 3 October 2020 01:49 (seven months ago) link

I think this is the first finals game I haven’t watched in like 20+ years

Spottie, Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:30 (seven months ago) link

Same.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:32 (seven months ago) link

it seems weird to me the game is even going on like there's so much going on and there's also a game???

Clay, Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:39 (seven months ago) link

i've got it on but just in the background, this is 100% a lakers sweep unfortunately

call all destroyer, Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:44 (seven months ago) link

i think the one thing i can't really deal with is that dwight is going to get a ring

call all destroyer, Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:45 (seven months ago) link

unreal display by Davis

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:45 (seven months ago) link

500 year old udonis is yelling at the heat; what exactly are they supposed to do my man?

call all destroyer, Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:54 (seven months ago) link

pray away anthony davis

lag∞n, Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:55 (seven months ago) link

pix
r1
lal v por, lakers in 5
lac v dal, clips in 5
den v uta, nugs in 4
hou v okc, thunders in 7

mil v orl, bux in 4
tor v bk, raps in 5
bos v phi, celts in 5
ind v mia, mia in 6

r2
lal v okc, lakers in 6
lac v den, clips in 7

mil v mia, heats in 7
tor v bos, raps in 6

r3
lal v lac, lakers in 7
tor v mia, raps in 7

finals
lal v tor, lakers in 6
AD FMVP

― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Saturday, August 15, 2020 6:39 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

i didnt get all these right, but that last one is lookn good

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:56 (seven months ago) link

lol davs wouldve busted haslems ass mb he couldve tried giving him a speech

lag∞n, Saturday, 3 October 2020 02:57 (seven months ago) link

holy fuck that Lebron block/steal

frogbs, Saturday, 3 October 2020 03:11 (seven months ago) link

lol 16 - 47 3pt lakers
Finals record on attempts

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 3 October 2020 03:33 (seven months ago) link

AD is special

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 3 October 2020 03:34 (seven months ago) link

when AD is comfortable with the situation there is no one better, and right now he's really comfortable

call all destroyer, Saturday, 3 October 2020 03:37 (seven months ago) link

No bam or dragic again no thx

Spottie, Sunday, 4 October 2020 21:49 (seven months ago) link

oof, most anticlimactic finals in a while

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Sunday, 4 October 2020 21:51 (seven months ago) link

when's next seasons start

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 4 October 2020 22:43 (seven months ago) link

Normally in a couple of weeks :/

Spottie, Sunday, 4 October 2020 23:39 (seven months ago) link

yeah preseason would be starting just about now it's very weird

Clay, Sunday, 4 October 2020 23:41 (seven months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 5 October 2020 00:01 (seven months ago) link

Heat could take this one tonight

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 5 October 2020 00:28 (seven months ago) link

no one else watching this?

frogbs, Monday, 5 October 2020 01:25 (seven months ago) link

just finished chores and turned it on

call all destroyer, Monday, 5 October 2020 01:43 (seven months ago) link

I do not like rondo’s shows at all

Clay, Monday, 5 October 2020 01:48 (seven months ago) link

shoes

Clay, Monday, 5 October 2020 01:48 (seven months ago) link

anyone know where AD was tonight?

call all destroyer, Monday, 5 October 2020 02:03 (seven months ago) link

if Jimmy plays like this for 3 more games I dare say the Heat have a shot

frogbs, Monday, 5 October 2020 02:05 (seven months ago) link

if anthony davis has 9 FGAs per game for 3 more games they also have a shot

call all destroyer, Monday, 5 October 2020 02:08 (seven months ago) link

HAPPY JIMMY BUTLER DAY pic.twitter.com/MCTrAVP984

— Sophia Benoit (@1followernodad) October 5, 2020

lag∞n, Monday, 5 October 2020 02:14 (seven months ago) link

jimmy got 40 without shooting a 3

lag∞n, Monday, 5 October 2020 02:16 (seven months ago) link

down 2-0 missing your second and third best players and putting up a 40 point triple double gotta be one of the best finals performances in recent history

J0rdan S., Monday, 5 October 2020 02:19 (seven months ago) link

yeah reminded me of Dirk vs the Heatles

frogbs, Monday, 5 October 2020 02:20 (seven months ago) link

loving the big time kelly o minutes tonight

J0rdan S., Monday, 5 October 2020 02:21 (seven months ago) link

Per NBA PR: Jimmy Butler is the third player to record a 40-point triple-double in an NBA Finals game, joining LeBron James (Game 5 in 2015) and Jerry West (Game 7 in 1969).

— K.C. Johnson (@KCJHoop) October 5, 2020

lag∞n, Monday, 5 October 2020 02:35 (seven months ago) link

Impressive jimmy game. Kelly o doing just enough too. Is bam gonna make it back for next game?

Spottie, Monday, 5 October 2020 03:16 (seven months ago) link

That would make it interesting for sure. I knew the lakers would lose this game.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 5 October 2020 03:26 (seven months ago) link

Kelly O seems good for the job of annoying the lakers bigs, thought they should have tried playing him last two games

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Monday, 5 October 2020 04:01 (seven months ago) link

seems like bam is gonna be back. still no real evidence the heat have enough juice to win this series esp with dragic having a bad injury but could be interesting if bam comes back and the role player shooting evens out a bit. could see the heat winning another game if herro and robinson go off in a game where kuzma and morris can’t hit shots

J0rdan S., Monday, 5 October 2020 04:47 (seven months ago) link

feels like jae crowder hasn’t made a shot in 2 weeks

J0rdan S., Monday, 5 October 2020 04:47 (seven months ago) link

I put $15 on the heat in 6 at +900 before the series. I’d take the $150 any day.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 5 October 2020 04:56 (seven months ago) link

According to Elias Sports, Butler scored or assisted on 73 points Sunday and that’s tied for the second-most in a Finals game in NBA history behind only Walt Frazier’s 74 points.

J0rdan S., Monday, 5 October 2020 14:36 (seven months ago) link

biggest gambling outright win upset in the finals since iverson took game 1 from shaq

lag∞n, Monday, 5 October 2020 14:54 (seven months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 00:01 (seven months ago) link

jimmy butler fan club

Jimmy Butler says beating grown men as teen, not NBA Finals Game 3, his best game https://t.co/nocUXe3eSO

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) October 6, 2020

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:02 (seven months ago) link

i have at times been critical of jimmy as a player but he's an amazing character and i love him for keeping it real

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:11 (seven months ago) link

agree it’s “good for the league” that he’s in a place where his personality is relevant. he’s hysterical

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 6 October 2020 04:05 (seven months ago) link

that's a good way to put it ... where his personality is relevant. Silver should make a law that Jimmy can't leave Miami.

he was incredible last night. telling LeBron "you in trouble" after Bron said it to him is classic.

alpine static, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 06:30 (seven months ago) link

According to Elias Sports, Butler scored or assisted on 73 points Sunday and that’s tied for the second-most in a Finals game in NBA history behind only Walt Frazier’s 74 points.


I assume this was the “willis Reed game.” Probably the greatest playoff performance ever.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 23:29 (seven months ago) link

Heat announce Bam Adebayo is replacing Kelly Olynyk in the starting lineup tonight.

— Jared Weiss (@JaredWeissNBA) October 7, 2020

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 00:31 (six months ago) link

downgrade wow

Spottie, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 00:37 (six months ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 00:38 (six months ago) link

free jelly k!!!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 00:39 (six months ago) link

feeling for dragic

Goran is a warrior. He’s clearly trying as much as he can to play. pic.twitter.com/HKezEM3k2K

— Will Manso (@WillManso) October 6, 2020

Spottie, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 00:41 (six months ago) link

aww damn

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 00:42 (six months ago) link

got a torn up foot bro nothin u can do

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 00:42 (six months ago) link

get that man a bionic leg and some floss

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 00:56 (six months ago) link

feel for goran. he's someone who you want to see in big games.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 01:03 (six months ago) link

refs happy for the lakers to be very physical here early

micah, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 01:27 (six months ago) link

heat missing dragic tonight, they need the offense badly

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 October 2020 02:55 (six months ago) link

iguodala's unwillingness to try a contested layup is immensely frustrating

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 03:01 (six months ago) link

outside of a few threes, nunn’s minutes have been pretty brutal tonight. in game 3 jimmy’s transcendence covered for dragic’s absence but tonight it’s pretty glaring. spo needs to go with herro and robinson for basically the rest of the game

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 October 2020 03:10 (six months ago) link

KCP giving rich paul huge minutes tonight

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 October 2020 03:22 (six months ago) link

the lakers grinding one out is possibly the least satisfying result

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 03:30 (six months ago) link

heat just couldn’t score in the half court tonight w/o jimmy being superman. basically were running every possession at the end thru herro and robinson coming off screens

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 October 2020 03:37 (six months ago) link

Jimmy was way too passive tonight. Tons of over passing by the whole team. Otm dragic would’ve helped so much.

Spottie, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 04:18 (six months ago) link

Kcp has been really good

Spottie, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 05:04 (six months ago) link

putting AD on jimmy was a nice move by vogel, i think it had jimmy psyched out. he can get to the rim/line consistently vs everyone else on the lakers (including lebron) but AD forces him to shoot which he doesn't really want to do. in game 3 they were putting davis on olynyk/leonard and the heat were just murdering them. but still jimmy wasn't really looking for his shot even into the fourth which was weird... he could've picked spots in the midrange and pulled up confidently if he wanted to but he just... didn't. prob should've got bam more involved in the offense if AD was on jimmy but it's a lot to fold into the gameplan on the fly. dragic was the heat's offensive closer all year, even into the bucks series, and it was really felt in this one

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 October 2020 05:10 (six months ago) link

jimmy hitting another marker of star status tho in that watching it live it felt like he was weirdly passive and absent all night in a very crucial game and then you look at the stat line and he put up 22-10-9 w/ 3 steals and a block on 8-17 shooting. a truly vintage lebron-esque performance in its own way

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 October 2020 05:13 (six months ago) link

yah but he started like 5-5 so he was pretty bad from that point on. it was aesthetics tho, like he was happy to pass to nunn and watch him dribble around a shoot a contested shot on too many occasions in the 2nd half. i love jimmy but he needed to be the player he was in game 3 for them to win. sometimes you just gotta hoist.. or at least shoot when your open which he was a lot tonight.

Spottie, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 05:33 (six months ago) link

Miami not rolling over

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 10 October 2020 01:34 (six months ago) link

Oh fuck! AD down

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 10 October 2020 01:37 (six months ago) link

looks like a non-contact back of leg injury

micah, Saturday, 10 October 2020 01:39 (six months ago) link

Immediately thought achilles but he’s walking now

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 10 October 2020 01:44 (six months ago) link

could be just one of those weird tweaks he always gets

circles, Saturday, 10 October 2020 01:47 (six months ago) link

re-aggregation of his heel bruise. yeah, he's always nicked up.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 01:54 (six months ago) link

it’s like the 20th most important thing happening in this series but danny green’s minutes have been appalling

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 01:56 (six months ago) link

he’s been a dumpster fire the whole playoffs!

k3vin k., Saturday, 10 October 2020 01:57 (six months ago) link

aside from dragic being out two other things hurting the heat this series are crowded turning into a pumpkin on offense and bam playing like C-grade games. everyone else has mostly played at expectation i think

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:02 (six months ago) link

crowder*

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:02 (six months ago) link

have to think bam is being impacted by the mysterious neck/shoulder injury

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:10 (six months ago) link

yeah... and also facing prob the best big in the NBA. but he hasn’t really been a focal point of the offense even as a distributor like he normally is and tonight is missing stuff at the rim, he just looks off

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:18 (six months ago) link

his offensive skills have been overhyped imo

micah, Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:20 (six months ago) link

it’s like the 20th most important thing happening in this series but danny green’s minutes have been appalling

― J0rdan S., Friday, October 9, 2020 9:56 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he’s been a dumpster fire the whole playoffs!

― k3vin k., Friday, October 9, 2020 9:57 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

classic weirdly over rated role player who just happened to be hanging around multiple contenders

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:25 (six months ago) link

gotta admire miami's moxy

Clay, Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:25 (six months ago) link

Heat could use Robinson hitting 3s at his reg season pace. Everyone of his misses is points the other way. Lakers D on him has been v good.

that's not my post, Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:25 (six months ago) link

playoffs is like that

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:26 (six months ago) link

robinson has been good to me considering ppl thought he might be run off the floor in the playoffs... he’s gonna be at a physical disadvantage vs grown ass teams but has mostly held up

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:37 (six months ago) link

bam might be the second best passing big in the league and does stuff in transition i feel like i only otherwise see out of giannis. he’s lacking the outside shooting you see from jokic and AD but is a very good free throw shooter and has gotten good from the mid range. just hasn’t been able to lock into this series really

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:40 (six months ago) link

dwight a bitch

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:40 (six months ago) link

how was he not ejected for that with one tech already on him

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:43 (six months ago) link

heat may wanna consider not letting lebron shoot wide open threes

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:43 (six months ago) link

Crowder physically incapable of making a 3

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:51 (six months ago) link

saw some ppl on twitter complaining abt danny green again and....he's 2-4 for 5 pts and he's +4 in 16 minutes.

cointelamateur (m bison), Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:52 (six months ago) link

5 points is that good

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:52 (six months ago) link

i think that’s a circumstance of green starting halves when bron and AD are both on the floor. his misses have been really awful

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:54 (six months ago) link

robinson has been good to me considering ppl thought he might be run off the floor in the playoffs... he’s gonna be at a physical disadvantage vs grown ass teams but has mostly held up

― J0rdan S., Friday, October 9, 2020 10:37 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he's been really, really impressive considering what a lot of us expected. he was never going to be able to play his regular season game but he's hung around, played insanely hard, and found ways to be useful. like he'll drive in a straight line and it won't be pretty but the willingness to do it matters.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:54 (six months ago) link

5 points is that good

― lag∞n, Friday, October 9, 2020 9:52 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

on 4 shots? not bad.

cointelamateur (m bison), Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:55 (six months ago) link

it’s kinda crazy how much the heat’s offense is based on robinson sprinting back and forth around the three point line, even when he doesn’t shoot

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:56 (six months ago) link

the shooting is why he's in the nba but to use my favorite cliche he's just a basketball player.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:56 (six months ago) link

i’m sorry to m bison and the box score but danny green has been terrible tonight & there’s a reason we’re prob not going to see him step on the floor for the rest of the game

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:57 (six months ago) link

Robinson has impressed me with his poise.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:57 (six months ago) link

Well Robinson heard that halftime pep talk.

that's not my post, Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:57 (six months ago) link

and he immediately sprints off a screen and gets a 4 point play

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:57 (six months ago) link

Duncan Robinson scored more points on hand offs this season than the Lakers, Rockets, and Raptors.

— Synergy Basketball (@SynergySST) October 10, 2020

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 02:58 (six months ago) link

at this point duncan has prob been the heat’s second best player in the series

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:00 (six months ago) link

fact

Duncan Robinson clearly the best player named Duncan or Robinson to ever play in an NBA Finals.

— Russ Bengtson (@russbengtson) October 10, 2020

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:10 (six months ago) link

why did vogel challenge that lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:12 (six months ago) link

bron prob told him to

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:13 (six months ago) link

they also had one of those use it or lose it timeouts i think

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:13 (six months ago) link

as a guy who saw every duncan robinson game in college, i must say that i did not see this coming even one bit lol

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:15 (six months ago) link

to be fair, i didn’t watch his games at williams, maybe that’s where the answer lies

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:15 (six months ago) link

imagine how good he mustve good in d3 my god

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:16 (six months ago) link

theres pick up games better than d3

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:16 (six months ago) link

yeah, we're at the duncan robinson needs to get back on the floor stage of the game

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:17 (six months ago) link

the heat’s offense suddenly has gotten incredibly desperate

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:18 (six months ago) link

he shot 56/45/88 at williams. the shooting was always there but i think he's a very rare case of the nba late bloomer.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:19 (six months ago) link

omg jimmy

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:29 (six months ago) link

After 17 yrs of it gotta say I'm pretty sick of the best player in the league's go to move being "I'm just gonna drive and run into you with my huge frame".

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:30 (six months ago) link

Man this is great

frogbs, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:30 (six months ago) link

jimmy v lebron 1 on 1 for the chip

Clay, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:31 (six months ago) link

man this is a war, i'm loving it

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:31 (six months ago) link

he also got put in the best possible situation. on another NBA team he’s prob a doug mcdermott type but the heat took what they started doing with i.e. wayne ellington like building very difficult hand off shots into the offense but really expanding it

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:31 (six months ago) link

bam has been bizarrely out of position on defense for all of these lebron drives

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:32 (six months ago) link

love this pic

Monster pic.twitter.com/00pqLRU61o

— Dan Woike (@DanWoikeSports) October 10, 2020

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:34 (six months ago) link

if lebron wins this i am at peace

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:35 (six months ago) link

lol

Clay, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:37 (six months ago) link

why is morris out there?

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:38 (six months ago) link

lol disastrous final poss

micah, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:38 (six months ago) link

how many times has mark jackson mentioned that if he were coaching iggy would be in the game right now. it's more than two!

Clay, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:38 (six months ago) link

the miami heat!!

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:38 (six months ago) link

Great win

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:40 (six months ago) link

game 6 baby!

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:40 (six months ago) link

siick

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:40 (six months ago) link

excellent shot by danny green and pass by markief morris on the final play... not

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:43 (six months ago) link

this is the best part because we've reached the no adjustments zone. the lakers get smoked literally any time AD is off the floor. duncan robinson gets a rest and all of a sudden the heat can't score.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:43 (six months ago) link

i... did not think the heat could take a 40-13-7 level punch from lebron and win

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:43 (six months ago) link

there’s a reason we’re prob not going to see him step on the floor for the rest of the game

― J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 1:57 PM (forty-four minutes ago)

haha sorry jordan

micah, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:43 (six months ago) link

love seeing morris’s punk ass throw the ball out of bounds at the end there

k3vin k., Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:44 (six months ago) link

morris could have just gone for little face up iso when he caught that rebound, its his game

micah, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:45 (six months ago) link

there’s a reason we’re prob not going to see him step on the floor for the rest of the game

― J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 1:57 PM (forty-four minutes ago)

haha sorry jordan


frank vogel should’ve listened to me. that shot was butt

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:51 (six months ago) link

lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej8ENQEXcAAEJqa?format=png&name=small

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:52 (six months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej8D8z7WsAAn1PH?format=png&name=small

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:52 (six months ago) link

Jimmy Butler since Game 1:

30.5 points
11.5 assists
10.3 rebounds

40-73 FG, 54.8%
41-45 FT, 91.1% pic.twitter.com/fk6TO7t1XM

— Tom Haberstroh (@tomhaberstroh) October 10, 2020

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 03:55 (six months ago) link

yeah he’s one assist short of three straight finals triple doubles, completely nuts

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 04:08 (six months ago) link

also bron was wide open on the opposite wing lmao

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 04:09 (six months ago) link

lol how was every laker open

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej8EMcCU4AEjejW?format=jpg&name=900x900

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 04:17 (six months ago) link

well, three out of five were.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 10 October 2020 04:18 (six months ago) link

a small pond between lebron and any other player but that morris court vision gene is alive and well

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 04:19 (six months ago) link

even davis had his man sealed

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 04:20 (six months ago) link

lakers were down the whole game lol

Anthony Davis: “We have to win one, they have to win two. We have to keep that in mind. But this is a tough one because we had this one in the bag.”

— Rachel Nichols (@Rachel__Nichols) October 10, 2020

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 04:24 (six months ago) link

insane lebron has lost two finals games directly bcuz of completely boneheaded plays by jr smith and markieff morris

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 04:32 (six months ago) link

its a good plot detail i support it

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 04:33 (six months ago) link

bron's weird teammate curse outside of the heatles years is a very amusing component to his career and myth

Clay, Saturday, 10 October 2020 04:34 (six months ago) link

next question is how hurt brow is... if he’s only at 50% or something the rosters start to look far more even, maybe even tilted in miami’s favor

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 04:38 (six months ago) link

Markieff Morris: 0 points in 23 minutes, three turnovers, four fouls, also made the biggest mistake of the game

— Ricky O'Donnell (@SBN_Ricky) October 10, 2020

he *was* playing unreasonably well, but...

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 04:42 (six months ago) link

the thing about the lakers is you can play morris who was -2 or you can play kuzma who was -17.....kuz had to have been playing some of those minutes with no lebron or AD in the 1st half when AD hurt his foot but yeah, one of those guys needs to play and the results have not been strong.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 October 2020 04:45 (six months ago) link

honestly morris has been about as bad guarding jimmy as kuzma has, i would roll w/ kuzma's offense, which has seemed pretty good to me this series

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 05:30 (six months ago) link

hard to imagine a better advertisement for the concept of culture and fit in team sports than jimmy and the heat. he hasn't changed a bit, he just found ppl who can tolerate him

Duncan Robinson said Jimmy Butler has a meeting with him in his room after game 2. “He’s hard on me but that’s because he expects a lot” pic.twitter.com/eHnlfWNYHD

— Brendan Tobin (@Brendan_Tobin) October 10, 2020

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 05:39 (six months ago) link

Watching both Morris bros on LA title contenders want nothing to do with the ball in crucial moments has been fun to see. Whole career built on being tough hard nose players but are everything but.

The two heat wins thus far have made up for a lot and I’m happy with the finals now. Jimmy is a hero.

Spottie, Saturday, 10 October 2020 07:17 (six months ago) link

next question is how hurt brow is... if he’s only at 50% or something the rosters start to look far more even, maybe even tilted in miami’s favor


It’s AD so he’s probably 100% fine

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 October 2020 16:13 (six months ago) link

looked like he could barely run in the last stretch of the game

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 16:38 (six months ago) link

yeah. i wonder how much they'll hedge their bets if the heat get out 10 or 12 points early in the 4th if AD is a little gimpy.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 10 October 2020 16:54 (six months ago) link

bron's weird teammate curse outside of the heatles years is a very amusing component to his career and myth

― Clay, Saturday, October 10, 2020 12:34 AM (twelve hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

it’s not a curse! he’s handpicked all his teams since like 2012 at least

k3vin k., Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:26 (six months ago) link

hard to imagine a better advertisement for the concept of culture and fit in team sports than jimmy and the heat. he hasn't changed a bit, he just found ppl who can tolerate him

Duncan Robinson said Jimmy Butler has a meeting with him in his room after game 2. “He’s hard on me but that’s because he expects a lot” pic.twitter.com/eHnlfWNYHD
— Brendan Tobin (@Brendan_Tobin) October 10, 2020

― J0rdan S., Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:39 AM (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

helps to be winning. we’ll see how well he’s tolerated next year when (presumably) the heat aren’t in the finals

k3vin k., Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:04 (six months ago) link

yeah they will probably turn on him

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:07 (six months ago) link

it’s not a curse! he’s handpicked all his teams since like 2012 at least

― k3vin k., Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:26 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the ultimate curse is the one we cast on ourselves, something to think about.....

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:22 (six months ago) link

kendrick nunn’s not shy, is he?

this game was bananas.

I LOVE BASKETBALL

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 10 October 2020 22:12 (six months ago) link

is there a chance dragic comes back or nah
yea this past game was a good watch

johnny crunch, Saturday, 10 October 2020 23:13 (six months ago) link

dragic's chances for playing are slim or none

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 10 October 2020 23:15 (six months ago) link

herro, bam and iggy - or some combination thereof - have to get more points if the heat are gonna do this imo

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 10 October 2020 23:28 (six months ago) link

bam got double digits in points actually - i would not have figured that

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 10 October 2020 23:30 (six months ago) link

the formula for the heat is davis being hobbled, the lakers role players crapping the bed, and the heat getting good games from their role players. it’s not inconceivable but still requires jimmy going toe to toe with lebron again bcuz you know bron is coming with another 35-12-8 game

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 23:42 (six months ago) link

Totally nuts. According to Game Score, in the past week, Jimmy Butler has turned in two of the three most productive individual Finals performances in the last 35 years. https://t.co/w0X50Efqc8

— Dan Devine (@YourManDevine) October 10, 2020

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 October 2020 23:42 (six months ago) link

helps to be winning. we’ll see how well he’s tolerated next year when (presumably) the heat aren’t in the finals

...But they're winning solely because of Jimmy lol; he's leading his team in literally every counting statistic this series. People keep talking like his performance right now is a fluke like he wasn't an all-time lucky game-winning roll from being in the ECF last year over the eventual champs and didn't dismantle the #1 seed and 2x MVPs team in the 2nd round to get here in the first place. Heat are very young outside of him and their vets and will have the assets and cap space to add another star so as a team they aren't going anywhere anytime soon either. Unless you really think a post-full achilles rupture 30 year old KD or Doc Rivers with the most ill-fitting roster in the NBA is going to be the bane of their existence like LeBron was for the Raptors lmao

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Saturday, 10 October 2020 23:47 (six months ago) link

the celtics, bucks, and probably raptors are going to be favored over the heat next year. not saying they’re not a good team, just saying that jimmy’s well-known issues as a teammate might not get the same warm reception if they’re not two games away from an NBA championship

k3vin k., Sunday, 11 October 2020 01:25 (six months ago) link

you’re making a tautological argument... they weren’t 2 games away from a title when they were a 4th/5th best team in the east during the regular season

J0rdan S., Sunday, 11 October 2020 02:41 (six months ago) link

the heat self selected for players who will tolerate jimmy butler before they even had jimmy butler

J0rdan S., Sunday, 11 October 2020 02:42 (six months ago) link

the devil will be in the trades - the heat are on the hunt for a big free agent, the raptors have to decide on fvv, and the celtics need to upgrade a starter who isnt tatum or brown

micah, Sunday, 11 October 2020 02:46 (six months ago) link

as great as the basketball has been i'm taking the bubble results with a massive grain of salt. it's pretty clear that neutral site has had a huge impact on the playoffs so i'll hold off on retconning that the heat were actually the best team in the east all along, etc.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 11 October 2020 02:57 (six months ago) link

i agree & have made similar arguments... that said i think the rosters are far more even on paper in the east than they are in the west w/ the LA teams heading into next season. and you could reasonably make the argument that jimmy is the playoff alpha dog in the east rn until proven otherwise. giannis, tatum, embiid etc may have better regular seasons than him but going into next year's playoffs i think the consensus will be that he is the one guy (in the east) you'd want for the playoffs. but there's no way the bucks and celtics series go the way they did if the heat had to play road games... i don't think that's very controversial to say

J0rdan S., Sunday, 11 October 2020 03:17 (six months ago) link

yup, agree completely

call all destroyer, Sunday, 11 October 2020 03:40 (six months ago) link

I for one do not think Jimmy Butler has two more historically great Finals games in him

frogbs, Sunday, 11 October 2020 03:45 (six months ago) link

I agree but that’s why they play the games I suppose.
I thought lakers in 6 when this started and - though I certainly didn’t imagine this route there - I still think Lakers in 6

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 11 October 2020 04:08 (six months ago) link

he's 2 rebounds and 1 assist away from four straight triple doubles... i think the total point differential over the last 4 games is like 2 points. i don't think the heat will win game 6 bcuz i would never bet against lebron at this stage but i do think they can

J0rdan S., Sunday, 11 October 2020 04:23 (six months ago) link

you’re making a tautological argument... they weren’t 2 games away from a title when they were a 4th/5th best team in the east during the regular season

― J0rdan S., Saturday, October 10, 2020 10:41 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

he could “wear out his welcome” as they say. anyway I’m rooting for it to not happen because the heat are fun

k3vin k., Sunday, 11 October 2020 11:33 (six months ago) link

neutral court playoffs should totally be a thing from now on but obviously won’t

k3vin k., Sunday, 11 October 2020 11:34 (six months ago) link

bruh

micah, Sunday, 11 October 2020 13:43 (six months ago) link

playoffs crowds rule and are a massive part of nba lore

micah, Sunday, 11 October 2020 13:44 (six months ago) link

yeah red card for kev, rabid home fans rule

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 October 2020 14:30 (six months ago) link

Wishful thinking but I was imaging how awesome Klay would be in the Duncan Robinson role ... but then again every team could use some Klay in their life

that's not my post, Sunday, 11 October 2020 17:34 (six months ago) link

Especially in a game 6

Fetchboy, Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:10 (six months ago) link

Today is the day the largest number of ILH denizens picked the Lakers to win it all. Sorrowfully, for some of us, but our allegiance to hoops is strong and this is what our collective hoops wisdom said would happen. I'd be happy to be wrong. A Game 7 would be sweet!

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:17 (six months ago) link

gotta have game 7 baby

Clay, Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:21 (six months ago) link

i kinda want to be right abt picking lakers in 6, it is v important to me that i am right

cointelamateur (m bison), Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:57 (six months ago) link

Frank Vogel says Anthony Davis’ right heel contusion will likely cause him to experience “soreness” in Game 6 but said that the adrenaline rush from the competition should help him push through it.

— Dave McMenamin (@mcten) October 11, 2020

*distant chanting growing louder* contusion contusion CONTUSION

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:17 (six months ago) link

GORAN ACTIVE

cointelamateur (m bison), Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:41 (six months ago) link

activate goran-o-bot

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:43 (six months ago) link

re the jimmy butler convo upthread i think he deserves some benefit of the doubt seeing as how he was on 3 of the most dysfunctional franchises before the heat

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:44 (six months ago) link

also he was good but not great in the celtics series (not that it mattered)

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:46 (six months ago) link

Goran Dragic (foot) is on the active roster tonight vs. Lakers for Game 6.

— Anthony Chiang (@Anthony_Chiang) October 11, 2020

cointelamateur (m bison), Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:46 (six months ago) link

Must see teevee

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:59 (six months ago) link

"Our first pre-bubble game was against the Lakers, and they complained from the first to the last minute, although it was a scrimmage, no TVs or anything. It’s just how the Lakers approach games."

- Evan Fournier

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 October 2020 23:01 (six months ago) link

neutral court playoffs should totally be a thing from now on but obviously won’t

― k3vin k., Sunday, October 11, 2020 7:34 AM (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

bruh

― micah, Sunday, October 11, 2020 9:43 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

playoffs crowds rule and are a massive part of nba lore

― micah, Sunday, October 11, 2020 9:44 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah red card for kev, rabid home fans rule

― lag∞n, Sunday, October 11, 2020 10:30 AM (eight hours ago)

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/279/386/6aa.jpg

k3vin k., Sunday, 11 October 2020 23:04 (six months ago) link

re the jimmy butler convo upthread i think he deserves some benefit of the doubt seeing as how he was on 3 of the most dysfunctional franchises before the heat

― lag∞n, Sunday, October 11, 2020 6:44 PM (thirty minutes ago)

the t wolves team that got the 8 seed was actually a top 4 team in the west for a period before jimmy got hurt

J0rdan S., Sunday, 11 October 2020 23:17 (six months ago) link

i can't imagine dragic doing much tonight... he has basically not been able to move in the warm up videos they've shown this series

J0rdan S., Sunday, 11 October 2020 23:21 (six months ago) link

moving is a pretty nice basketball skill to have

ciderpress, Sunday, 11 October 2020 23:39 (six months ago) link

since I'm not going to be able to actually watch this, does anyone have a favorite live blog?

lukas, Sunday, 11 October 2020 23:53 (six months ago) link

i can't imagine dragic doing much tonight... he has basically not been able to move in the warm up videos they've shown this series

― J0rdan S., Sunday, October 11, 2020 7:21 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah nunn got on the floor before him

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 October 2020 23:59 (six months ago) link

nvm!

lukas, Monday, 12 October 2020 00:04 (six months ago) link

lakers trying very hard on defense

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 October 2020 00:10 (six months ago) link

It must be such a crazy feeling to have an incredibly painful injury that is also “safe” to play on. I guess there’s this and turf toe?

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 12 October 2020 00:13 (six months ago) link

big chance for danny green to be the first player since robert horry to lead three different teams to a title

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Monday, 12 October 2020 00:22 (six months ago) link

first ballot role palyer hollafamer for sure

cointelamateur (m bison), Monday, 12 October 2020 00:26 (six months ago) link

Heat offense plan
1. Have perimeter player get past his man
2.???
3. Profit

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 12 October 2020 00:39 (six months ago) link

Heat need the qtr to end

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 12 October 2020 00:44 (six months ago) link

Can’t remember the last NBA championship team I disliked this much

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 12 October 2020 00:46 (six months ago) link

shaq+kobe lakers were not likable at all

cointelamateur (m bison), Monday, 12 October 2020 00:58 (six months ago) link

kobe + gasol lakers were even less likable!

Clay, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:01 (six months ago) link

I actually kinda like the roster, hate the fact that they could only construct it because they're LA

not sure how I feel about Dwight getting a ring this way

frogbs, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:06 (six months ago) link

I hated the spurs teams that tried to injure people

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:07 (six months ago) link

that was technically just two ppl

cointelamateur (m bison), Monday, 12 October 2020 01:08 (six months ago) link

dwight getting a ring is really hard for me to reckon with

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:10 (six months ago) link

it is a cosmic felony that if i want to watch the nba finals i have to listen to mark jackson monologue about "greatness"

Clay, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:19 (six months ago) link

Are there people that enjoy hearing mark Jackson in the booth?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 12 October 2020 01:21 (six months ago) link

abc is doing a public service by keeping him in the booth instead of on some poor team’s sideline

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 October 2020 01:25 (six months ago) link

Herro been invisible last couple games

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 12 October 2020 01:27 (six months ago) link

that time was going to come for a 20 year old playing big minutes in the nba finals

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:29 (six months ago) link

abc is doing a public service by keeping him in the booth instead of on some poor team’s sideline

― covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Sunday, October 11, 2020 9:25 PM (three minutes ago)

I've genuinely wondered this too but there must be enough normies out there to make it ok

k3vin k., Monday, 12 October 2020 01:30 (six months ago) link

really don't like seeing these brute force, only 2 good players rosters win

ciderpress, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:30 (six months ago) link

jackson has a pleasant voice and cadence when he speaks provided you don't really think critically about what he's saying. and he and jvg are very well-paired in that they contrast each other but have some personal chemistry. casuals probably enjoy them a lot because as an abstracted ideal of a 3-man booth they are excellent.

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:43 (six months ago) link

I am that guy who was against the Bulls trading their young core for Kobe but I don't know how you get fully invested in a team like this as a Lakers fan. Maybe that's why one of the biggest Lakers fan I know is at the local bball court now instead of watching.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 12 October 2020 01:43 (six months ago) link

they should replace both of them with stan van, who was really great in the early rounds

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 October 2020 01:44 (six months ago) link

i haven't been listening to much network commentary but have heard it said that jvg has been really good in the bubble. i hope it's true, he seemed like he was burnt out and bored for the last few years.

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:47 (six months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y_cl3WIO6A

lag∞n, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:48 (six months ago) link

yeah svg was significantly better than his brother at the gig

ciderpress, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:51 (six months ago) link

Definitely the least “laker” feeling team to win a championship. Rondo getting getting a ring with the lakers is weird, and Dwight coming back to win? It’s strange for sure. I’ve loved the intensity they’ve played on defense these playoffs.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 12 October 2020 01:53 (six months ago) link

i'm not even happy for like 1 individual guy on this lakers team. completely uninspiring.

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:54 (six months ago) link

they're not nearly as hatable to me as all those other lakers teams, but they're a boring watch

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Monday, 12 October 2020 01:55 (six months ago) link

I was happy for Metta World Peace back then, the greatest laker of all time

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Monday, 12 October 2020 01:55 (six months ago) link

im gonna hold my judgement until i see what magic has to say

lag∞n, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:56 (six months ago) link

yeah, they're not hatable outside of dwight. they trigger indifference.

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:56 (six months ago) link

i guess jared dudley is getting a ring, that's nice.

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:57 (six months ago) link

this lakers squad is, like, the hewlett packard of teams, who gives a shit

Clay, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:58 (six months ago) link

idk any team with a morris brother can inspire the hate

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 October 2020 01:59 (six months ago) link

None of you like LeBron?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 October 2020 02:01 (six months ago) link

i don't think my feelings about lebron can be summed up in a single word such as "like"

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:02 (six months ago) link

<3 Bron fuck da h8ers

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 October 2020 02:03 (six months ago) link

i admire lebron of course but not in an "it's okay for him to get the lakers a championship" sorta way

Clay, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:04 (six months ago) link

Clay otm

covidiot wind (voodoo chili), Monday, 12 October 2020 02:04 (six months ago) link

I’m going to enjoy every minute of LeBron and don’t understand people who don’t.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:04 (six months ago) link

He's great, feel lucky to have seen him play basketball, don't know what more you'd want

It is weird how he's just played at this amazing level forever, never really done anything bad off the court, did a lot of great things in the community, and basically seems like a decent guy and people have this weird animus towards him

Yet weirdo miserable sociopaths like Jordan and Kobe are universally loved

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 October 2020 02:08 (six months ago) link

(talking general public more than ilh )

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 October 2020 02:10 (six months ago) link

i respect lebron hugely as a player and as a person (from what i can see from a distance). i think he's comported himself about as well as anyone possibly could in has position as the most important basketball player for the last 18 years.

as a sports fan i think this stage of his career is boring and inorganic and it's hard for me to feel much of anything about it.

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:10 (six months ago) link

Vogel looks like a total dork.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:10 (six months ago) link

Xxxpost Always respected MJ's talent, but christ he's a petulant dude

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 October 2020 02:10 (six months ago) link

Including continuing to push the lie that his coach "cut" him from the basketball team in high school

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 October 2020 02:11 (six months ago) link

and i don't think it's even totally lebron's doing! the current structure of the nba made this the best path to a title for him and he took it.

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:12 (six months ago) link

https://uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/ad.jpg

Clay, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:13 (six months ago) link

cad completely otm

Clay, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:14 (six months ago) link

hahaha i've been in and out but did they not let rob pelinka talk?

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:21 (six months ago) link

Lebron should probably go in the HoF as a player and GM

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 October 2020 02:23 (six months ago) link

very convenient when you can fit the GM and finals MVP into the same interview slot

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:24 (six months ago) link

i think pelinka got 7th place for exec of the year and he should be thankful it was that high tbh

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:25 (six months ago) link

sup @MichelobULTRA 😊🍾 pic.twitter.com/CxTcoiWqOW

— NBA Bubble Life (@NBABubbleLife) October 12, 2020

i hope there's some champagne and the guys aren't stuck with just michelob ultra :(

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:33 (six months ago) link

the champagne of low carb beers

lag∞n, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:45 (six months ago) link

can't believe Giannis was not the first Antetokounmpo to get a ring

frogbs, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:49 (six months ago) link

can't believe Giannis was not the first Antetokounmpo to get a ring

frogbs, Monday, 12 October 2020 02:49 (six months ago) link

^hearing this in Swizz Beats's voice

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 October 2020 02:51 (six months ago) link

I begrudgingly convinced myself I'd be ok with the Lakers winning the championship when Lebron started doing great work supporting voter enfranchisement. I'm amazed by so much of his game but don't really care for his bully ball or incessant whining.

AD is forever on my shit list for how he left nola. I'm grateful that at least his ring comes with a big fat asterisk.

Fetchboy, Monday, 12 October 2020 03:00 (six months ago) link

It doesn’t come with an asterisk sorry.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 12 October 2020 03:33 (six months ago) link

cad completely otm

― Clay

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 12 October 2020 03:37 (six months ago) link

Bubble title is absolutely an asterisk

Fetchboy, Monday, 12 October 2020 03:46 (six months ago) link

Nah

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 October 2020 03:49 (six months ago) link

"comes with an asterix" usually always means "i don't like the team that won", modified season or not

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 October 2020 03:52 (six months ago) link

otm

cointelamateur (m bison), Monday, 12 October 2020 03:59 (six months ago) link

The Lakers of all franchises were literally on the championship podium begging for people to acknowledge and respect this title lmao. Disingenuous or not, when guys like TJ Warren and Jamal Murray come crashing back down to earth and the Warriors flip that #2 pick and insert themselves back into the title race next season the "Mickey Mouse ring" and asterisk takes are definitely gonna be a thing.

All I have a problem with is the bullshit "This was the toughest path to a title EVERRRRR" nonsense that some were desperately trying to push about all of this. No, resuming without a fourth of the whole league in Orlando after a 4 month break to be wined and dined by the few remaining overworked Disney World employees that weren't laid off en masse in a luxury suite in your off hours when you aren't playing in an empty gym with no travel, in front of live webcam feeds hung up on a wall with fake crowd noise piped in over the speakers is not "The toughest obstacle to a championship in sports history", sorry.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Monday, 12 October 2020 04:24 (six months ago) link

i can buy the social isolation being hard if you didnt have family there with you.

cointelamateur (m bison), Monday, 12 October 2020 04:31 (six months ago) link

Oh cool it's trevor

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 October 2020 04:32 (six months ago) link

I started out not liking LeBron, then he won me over, then he annointed himself GOAT, and I'm back to not liking him.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 12 October 2020 04:43 (six months ago) link

lakers were clearly the best team and will be remembered as the rightful champions... the asterisk theory is bunk

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 October 2020 04:56 (six months ago) link

what i was thinking about tonight is how the GOAT argument would look if there wasn’t a cap spike allowing durant to sign with the warriors. we all just accept the KD warriors as like a natural part of history but it all circles back to a historical anomaly with the cap based on a decision by the union that i think is pretty agreed upon to be regrettable in retrospect. watching those warriors-cavs finals at the time it seemed pretty clear that lebron would have won at least one if KD never ended up on the warriors. he basically had 3 years of his prime wiped out by the timing of TV rights negotiations, if you wanna discuss asterisks

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 October 2020 05:03 (six months ago) link

good post ^

Warriors' 2nd and 3rd titles have penciled-in asterisks in my mind ... in ink for KD

alpine static, Monday, 12 October 2020 05:25 (six months ago) link

going to sleep happy tonight remembering that paul pierce is pissed and every possible outcome of this finals was going to end that way

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 October 2020 05:26 (six months ago) link

i admire lebron of course but not in an "it's okay for him to get the lakers a championship" sorta way

― Clay, Sunday, October 11, 2020 7:04 PM (three hours ago)

this is the opposite for me ... i like Bron (and AD) so much, i was actively rooting for Miami to give them trouble (and extend the season) but ultimately wanted the Lakers to win. and historically, i hate them.

alpine static, Monday, 12 October 2020 05:31 (six months ago) link

what i was thinking about tonight is how the GOAT argument would look if there wasn’t a cap spike allowing durant to sign with the warriors. we all just accept the KD warriors as like a natural part of history but it all circles back to a historical anomaly with the cap based on a decision by the union that i think is pretty agreed upon to be regrettable in retrospect. watching those warriors-cavs finals at the time it seemed pretty clear that lebron would have won at least one if KD never ended up on the warriors. he basically had 3 years of his prime wiped out by the timing of TV rights negotiations, if you wanna discuss asterisks


Cap spike PLUS curry being on an all time insanely cheap contract plus dray and klay being on cheap contracts. There’s a good chance he still ends up without the cap spike they just woulda had to dump iggy/Livingston.

Cad otm up thread. I feel nothing for this lakers team. I like lebron fine but I’ve never and will never cheer for a team he’s on. His presence in the media is very exhausting.

Spottie, Monday, 12 October 2020 05:43 (six months ago) link

Ends up *there

Spottie, Monday, 12 October 2020 05:44 (six months ago) link

LeBron has also been the beneficiary of Adventures in Cap Space though. The Heatles were a previously unthinkable phenomenon.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 12 October 2020 05:44 (six months ago) link

He kicked off the player empowerment movement he can’t be mad at anyone doing it better than he did.

Spottie, Monday, 12 October 2020 05:45 (six months ago) link

That “what if” and “asterisk” mental games are a slippery slope. Lebron could easily have two less titles too if it wasn’t for the ray allen shot and the perfect storm of events in 2016.

Spottie, Monday, 12 October 2020 05:49 (six months ago) link

No asterisks either. They earned it, they were the best or 2nd best team all season.

Spottie, Monday, 12 October 2020 05:50 (six months ago) link

yeah but those are all things that happened on the court... unlikely events but still players deciding the game. i enjoyed the KD warriors a lot but those three championships were decided at the negotiation table

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 October 2020 05:56 (six months ago) link

the league was essentially non-competitive for three seasons in a way that i don't think has much historical precedent... you could maybe point to the kobe/shaq three peat dynasty which has some weird origins in its own right -- magic not offering shaq the max contract (one of the stupidest decisions in nba history), kobe convincing several teams to not draft him -- but mathematically i don't think we'll never be able to see a team like the warriors again

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 October 2020 06:01 (six months ago) link

i forget the raptors won last year lol...

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 October 2020 06:06 (six months ago) link

xpost to be fair to Steph, Klay, Dray and Kerr, only two of their three championships were w/ KD and thus decided at the negotiation table - imo, at least. i don't think it's fair to discount 2015.

alpine static, Monday, 12 October 2020 06:10 (six months ago) link

lol, now that makes sense

alpine static, Monday, 12 October 2020 06:10 (six months ago) link

wait does this "Warriors 2017-2019 get an asterisk" theory *remove* the Raptors' "wouldn't have won if Klay and/or KD were healthy" asterisk?

alpine static, Monday, 12 October 2020 06:12 (six months ago) link

there were three straight asterisk championships for two different reasons

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 October 2020 06:14 (six months ago) link

i think by the time of warriors-raptors ppl were exhausted by the warriors and just happy to see someone else win but in retrospect we got robbed of seeing peak kawhi go against an end-of-their rope (for non injury reasons) warriors. he may have still been able to take them out

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 October 2020 06:18 (six months ago) link

Lol no

Spottie, Monday, 12 October 2020 06:22 (six months ago) link

every championship should have an asterisk when you think about it

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Monday, 12 October 2020 07:06 (six months ago) link

No one is the champions my friend

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 12 October 2020 07:45 (six months ago) link

heat spurs was the last good finals

micah, Monday, 12 October 2020 08:47 (six months ago) link

The Lakers team bus forgot Quinn Cook at the arena so he went on JR's IG live and told them to come back 🤣

(via @TheRealJRSmith) pic.twitter.com/sthp7sjINB

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) October 12, 2020

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 12 October 2020 13:00 (six months ago) link

asterisks are literally the dumbest sub-first take skip bayless jason whitlock horseshit

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 October 2020 13:13 (six months ago) link

phil jackson invented the idea iirc lol

lag∞n, Monday, 12 October 2020 13:16 (six months ago) link

Zen master strikes again

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 October 2020 13:19 (six months ago) link

starting to see how the lakers were able to win

https://i.imgur.com/eLWvTq5.png

ciderpress, Monday, 12 October 2020 16:11 (six months ago) link

to be clear, i don't really think there should be any asterisks on any championships

(but KD's are still weak)

alpine static, Monday, 12 October 2020 17:13 (six months ago) link

there should be a one to four asterisks rating on each championship

lag∞n, Monday, 12 October 2020 17:24 (six months ago) link

denoting spice level

alpine static, Monday, 12 October 2020 18:08 (six months ago) link

god what an embarrassing roster lol

k3vin k., Monday, 12 October 2020 19:18 (six months ago) link

bam and butler were garbage for the entire first quarter. lakers d just too good. i allowed myself to get my hopes up after game 5. but the inevitability of this was parked like a battleship on the horizon the whole time.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 October 2020 22:15 (six months ago) link

yup

Nhex, Monday, 12 October 2020 22:56 (six months ago) link

Only asterik that is any valuable in sports is pre-1947 baseball.

Everyone else earned their freaking championship.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 00:16 (six months ago) link

Only asterik that is any valuable in sports is pre-1947 baseball.

i gather you're a barry bonds fan

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 00:55 (six months ago) link

god what an embarrassing roster lol

― k3vin k., Monday, October 12, 2020 12:18 PM (yesterday)

i assume this is about the Lakers.

i thought this, too, when they restarted. nothing but pure garbage after LeBron and AD.

but i feel like i have to eat those thoughts, man.

not every rotation guy played well every night, but one or two of them stepped up most nights, and it was not only enough, it was plenty. KCP, Rondo and Caruso looked mostly good. Morris and Kuzma had moments. Danny Green was there.

they weren't asked to do much - play hard, fly around on D and chuck up open 3s - but they did it well.

i feel like Pelinka got it right, and i definitely did not think that six weeks ago. no surprise, since he is a top executive at the Los Angeles Lakers and i am not.

alpine static, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:09 (six months ago) link

Rondo played like...weirdly well, one of the strangest parts of the bubble

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:13 (six months ago) link

xpost I mean, with the exception of KCP and the young 'uns (who do not exactly impress), the whole roster after AD and Bron is basically ring chasers. So I would call it embarrassing in the sense that it doesn't have much obvious cohesion or an attractive on-court identity. But yeah, guys like Rondo and Dwight rose to the occasion and played well enough to deserve the ring.

Personally, the experience of watching teams jell (or not) over a period of a few seasons and develop those cohesive identities is one of the most satisfying and entertaining aspects of following sports. As great as it is to have "competitive balance" I'll take dynasties any day if it means we get those long arc storylines. It remains to be seen if the Lakers turn into one of those but it kind of feels like, in as far as Lebron is actually able to continue playing at this level for multiple more years, they'll just keep restocking with interchangeable supporting casts. Maybe one or two guys per year will stick and they'll start to look more like a team, I dunno. It would help if KCP had more of a discernible personality or if Kuzma were a little more likeable (or had actually had a good year).

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:21 (six months ago) link

It's been said before and may be said again... playoff Rondo is a real thing.
not sure what that says about him that he goes whole seasons and stints with teams without showing that side of himself

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:22 (six months ago) link

he's also 34, one of those guys i always think should be older than what he is, just because he won a championship when he was 22 i guess

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:26 (six months ago) link

i don't think 'vet who only gives 100% on a 1 seed team' is an archetype deserving of celebration

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:27 (six months ago) link

these guys basically exist to get the lakers more rings

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:27 (six months ago) link

It's been said before and may be said again... playoff Rondo is a real thing.
not sure what that says about him that he goes whole seasons and stints with teams without showing that side of himself

― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:22 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'm pretty sure it says that he's completely bored by regular season basketball

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:28 (six months ago) link

I mean tbf it can't compare to the levels of strategy needed to play Connect 4

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:35 (six months ago) link

i'm pretty sure it says that he's completely bored by regular season basketball

maybe he should only be paid to play in playoff games instead of drawing paychecks for 82 games of meh and then waking up in April to see if his team ended up in the lottery because they were carrying his dead carcass

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:28 (six months ago) link

hes basically derek fisher

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:39 (six months ago) link

ok that's just disrespectful

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:40 (six months ago) link

i don't think 'vet who only gives 100% on a 1 seed team' is an archetype deserving of celebration

― ciderpress, Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:27 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

tbf hes been good in the playoffs on lesser teams too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:54 (six months ago) link

yeah i was exaggerating but it does contribute to lack of parity on some level when teams trying to get over the playoff hump can't rely on these guys to show up and need to look elsewhere

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:24 (six months ago) link

derek fisher has way more rings than rondo ;)

Clay, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:34 (six months ago) link

So I would call it embarrassing in the sense that it doesn't have much obvious cohesion or an attractive on-court identity

yeah this is what I meant, just a totally soulless, joyless team

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:39 (six months ago) link

otm

Spottie, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:43 (six months ago) link

i def feel like this lakers team would get its ass kicked in a 7 game series by either of the three previous lebron title teams

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 October 2020 20:17 (six months ago) link

I don't know... Anthony Davis is good as hell.

Like, if Lebron is covering Lebron, who's got Tony?

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 20:29 (six months ago) link

I guess Bosh would be pretty nice but I don't know about that Cavs team

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 20:32 (six months ago) link

LeBron would refuse to guard LeBron

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 20:51 (six months ago) link

these guys basically exist to get the lakers more rings

― ciderpress, Tuesday, October 13, 2020 10:27 AM (three hours ago)

Is this supposed to be a criticism?

alpine static, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 21:00 (six months ago) link

no, just an observation of the lakers/lebron vet vacuums combining

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 21:33 (six months ago) link

i do think the east has 4 teams that could take this team down next year with some modest offseason moves, not sure about the west or whats going on with the clipper ships

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 21:37 (six months ago) link

pic.twitter.com/r9uXcOXcmj

— pickuphoop (@pickuphoop) October 12, 2020

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 22:09 (six months ago) link

those heat teams would destroy this lakers team... better/younger lebron, bosh in his prime is a good match up on AD, wade, much better role players.

after the first two games davis’ contribution was mostly on defense, he didn’t have a dominant offensive series. the idea that you need 1 player to guard him or you will lose isn’t really borne out by this series to say nothing of the rest of his career. and even with AD on the floor, the heat had a stretch of games putting up offensive ratings thar would’ve rated above the no 1 offense in the league. both those heat and cavs teams had floor stretching bigs the lack of which hurt the heat once the lakers realized they could just leave davis in the paint all game (in game 3 they put him on olynyk and the heat shredded them). lebron and AD are a great pair of players, the current league could not overcome
that, but bron’s previous title teams had legit big 3s and better role players, particularly shooters, than this lakers team.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 October 2020 22:43 (six months ago) link

i think olynk should have played in game 6. and herro should have played even more, when the lakers were packing the paint the heat needed a second ball handler when jimmys drive and kick game got shut down

iirc the heats roster for the 13/14 season was pretty av

micah, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:27 (six months ago) link

i def feel like this lakers team would get its ass kicked in a 7 game series by either of the three previous lebron title teams


This is true, especially since the other Lebron team would also get a ton of calls

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 02:30 (six months ago) link

herro had an awful series sadly... agree w/ you about olynyk. spo prob went w/ too much of bam -- i understand why but he played like butt for most of the series and no olynyk out there allowed davis to sit in the paint for 40 mins per game

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 October 2020 02:38 (six months ago) link

I had a challopeno popper about Duncan Robinson being a better long term piece than Herro, I might dust that off next year

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 02:42 (six months ago) link

i mean really there were no adjustments in game 6 that would have covered for butler and the heat expending absolutely everything they had to win game 5.

it's funny to talk about herro as if there is any sort of established baseline for him...he's really young and has had a lot of peaks and valleys in performance already. i don't think we have any idea what he is beyond an intriguing talent who has had a few flashes.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 02:53 (six months ago) link

well duncan robinson is 26 and herro is 20

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 October 2020 03:03 (six months ago) link

when you talk about huge beneficiaries of the bubble, robinson and herro go to the top of the list for me as rookies who got to play four playoff series w/o having to ever handle the ball or shoot in front of a road playoff crowd.

that having been said i thought both played above expectations... robinson held up far better than most ppl thought and was basically the second best player for them in the finals which is pretty crazy and explains why they lost but he also had a few huge games and wasn't overwhelmed physically in a series w/ a bunch of grown ass dudes, which was my major concern. herro was a borderline revelation, the stuff he was doing as a ball handler, finishing at the rim, passing out of the pick and roll... we did not see any of that in the regular season. he was having big problems finishing over anyone and then in the bubble was like dropping and 1 mixtape lay ups on anthony davis and jayson tatum. to me the question is how much further he can push it, dan le batard said on zach lowe's pod a little bit ago that the heat think he can be better than devin booker. personally i see him as more of a supercharged lou williams type, a second unit monster who can singlehandedly win games but w/ the added benefit of having a modern killer three point/step back arsenal in his game. there's a pretty decent gap between sixth man of the year and devin booker so we'll see which end he lands closer to

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 October 2020 03:10 (six months ago) link

yeah i mean you are saying things that basically make sense but i just need another season of herro before i'm ready to even suggest what he actually is. has to be one of the most unique rookie seasons ever.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 03:21 (six months ago) link

you are saying things that basically make sense

this is the promise i make to this board ever day

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 October 2020 03:57 (six months ago) link

nba talking heads - keep making sense

cointelamateur (m bison), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 03:59 (six months ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 05:26 (six months ago) link

i really dont buy any speculation that herro might be a 6th man. he will get starter level contract offers and he will be a starter.

micah, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 05:41 (six months ago) link

i just realized that demarcus cousins is gonna get a ring

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:36 (six months ago) link

do they give those to people who have played 0 minutes for the franchise

ciderpress, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:44 (six months ago) link

iirc if youre not on the playoff roster the active players vote whether to give u a share of the playoff bonus/a ring

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:46 (six months ago) link

boogie will almost certainly get the nod, if just to keep AD happy.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:07 (six months ago) link

ok

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:09 (six months ago) link

i dont think he'll get one.

Spottie, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:47 (six months ago) link

really sad career trajectory for that dude.

Spottie, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:47 (six months ago) link

yeah never really had a chance to establish himself outside the Bad Franchise

ciderpress, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:50 (six months ago) link

we never got to see what he and brow woulda looked like in the playoffs. they were just figuring it out when he blew his achilles.

Spottie, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:51 (six months ago) link

i think he gets one but doesn't wear it out

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 19:09 (six months ago) link

there should be a one to four asterisks rating on each championship

― lag∞n, Monday, October 12, 2020 1:24 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

keep coming back to this

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 October 2020 17:54 (six months ago) link

It could be like those internet polls where anyone can vote as many times as they like.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 25 October 2020 17:57 (six months ago) link

2011-2016 had minimal asterisks but they've been increasing since

ciderpress, Sunday, 25 October 2020 18:05 (six months ago) link

all human life since the invention of agriculture should have several asterisks

Clay, Sunday, 25 October 2020 20:58 (six months ago) link

(shrugs) yeah, but it was invented independently at several different times in different places, so what can you do?

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 25 October 2020 21:01 (six months ago) link

pat riley is such a baby

call all destroyer, Sunday, 25 October 2020 21:32 (six months ago) link

it was just recently that i heard how riley became head coach of the lakers, what a weird story

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 October 2020 23:37 (six months ago) link


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