2016 NBA Finals — Warriors vs Cavaliers

good stuff
http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/15521430/nba-finals-preview

took dubs in 5

cavs took two last time. this time they have kyrie and klove back. I'd say they can scrape together two wins again this time. dubs in 6.

Cavs in six.

dubs in 4

dubs in 7

dubs in 3

bcz they all moonwalk through their 4th win?

dubs in 6 (quarters)

cavs have a real shot this time, it'll be a lot more fun

cavs took two last time. this time they have kyrie and klove back. I'd say they can scrape together two wins again this time. dubs in 6.

― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, May 31, 2016 3:22 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i like the dubs chances more vs a healthy cavs roster that features a Klove and Irving tied up in pick n roll hell all night. if love isnt hitting shots i don't imagine he see the floor much in crunch time. idk I'm way less nervous about this series than i was about the okc one.

could be some sweet shootouts tho

don't forget that delly still knows how to tackle, slap, elbow and head butt opposing players. and draymond is living on borrowed time.

dubs in 6

don't forget draymo still knows how to kick key players in the nuts

dubs in 5

thats what i picked too. think cavs get game 3

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cavs are definitely the underdogs but i wouldn't underestimate the potency of lebron in the finals, he dragged that shitty injured team through 2 and almost 3 wins last year. not saying cavs will win this but it won't be a dubs sweep and won't be over in 5 games imo.

-healthy kyrie & klove could make a major difference this time around, but if they are off it might not really matter. i feel like when those dudes are on and that team is really working the cavs are very scary. they have so many off nights though.
-dubs are looking weaker than they have all year, they made it through sure but would anyone say these playoffs went the way most expected for gsw, based on the season they had? portland series went to 5, okc took it to 7. cavs are prob about equal to okc and definitely better than portland. curry still put up big numbers in some games but he has clearly not been himself in these playoffs, he's taken a beating. draymo's not himself either, and he's been doing some dumb sloppy shit and other bullshit that could get him ejected

Toss-up between GSW in 6 and GSW in 6

Bold stance.

i like spottie's idea that despite kyrie and love's added offense, it ends up being a net negative to the cavs because of what they lose on defense

kyrie in particular seems like a liability vs gsw

you cant hide kyrie on d, esp against the death lineup

yeah i'm glad golden state won and loved the brutal manner in which they did so but i was kind of looking forward to seeing kyrie guard russ

Agreed on warriors in 6

one thing i remember from game 1 of last years finals was how great kyrie looked on D. he was really locked in like id never seen before. i remember thinking that could be a problem if he could keep that up for a whole game/series, but then he blew his knee up.

Went with Warriors in 6 cos Warriors in 6 is just not as believable as Warriors in 6

game 6 is at cleveland fwiw

dubs had a pretty good road record iirc

Yea well I'd vote GSW in 7 if it were an option

Agreed on warriors in 6

Nah, I think it'll be the Warriors in 6.

this is a hilarious idea, needs to happen imo

chuck ‏@cbyers3 May 30
Dubs gotta have kelhani sing the national anthem for game 1 just to shake Kyrie

hahaha

ooooof cruel xp

warriors in 6, but with more close games than last year

varejao in 6

good stuff in here
http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2016/06/01/nba-finals-preview-golden-state-warriors-cleveland-cavaliers-champions-lebron-james-steph-curry/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

hope this goes 7, rooting for Warriors. The way they pulled it out last series forced my hand here, and tho I respect Lebron, I still find it hard to root for him.

torn, normally rooting for warriors but would also like to see Cavs win too
also want to see it go 7 but guessing Cleveland will lose out an extra game before 6

narrative of lebron ending 52-year championship drought in his hometown > narrative of warriors winning another championship for bay area billionaires (though i'd be happy for spottie and other bay area ilxors)

intrigue of cleveland's historic championship drought continuing >

haha i know it is intriguing

i woulda been going for the cavs had the thunder advanced. I'm into the narrative of the warriors silencing the doubters (again) that continue to doubt despite the evidence in front of their face by stamping a historic season.

narrative of warriors winning another championship for bay area billionaires (though i'd be happy for spottie and other bay area ilxors)

― marcos, Wednesday, June 1, 2016 2:56 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

it's pretty gross how this narrative of GSW's fans has eclipsed their historical fanbase

it is gross

gonna be even more gross when they move from Oakland

fwiw i'll take bay area billionaires over a loan shark that uses comic sans

yeah the funny thing about the joe lacob hate is that clay bennett and dan gilbert are roughly 1 million times worse for humanity than him

narrative of warriors winning another championship for bay area billionaires (though i'd be happy for spottie and other bay area ilxors)

― marcos, Wednesday, June 1, 2016 2:56 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

it's pretty gross how this narrative of GSW's fans has eclipsed their historical fanbase

― 龜, Wednesday, June 1, 2016 12:13 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^^ seriously, ppl who complain about warriors fans are like a million times worse than whatever dot-com fairweather boogyman they invoke.

its mostly cuz when you watch the dubs games on tv the crowd shots are showing the front rows which are all these guys

"these guys"

thats the front row of every arena tho. also e40 has been front row in the offs!

the bay area billionaires (BABs)

so much worse than other billionaires, right? spottie otm

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cj39GxAVEAAdcDr.jpg:large

billionaire bros buying up all the upper level seats too or wtf . I wouldn't say it's cheap to go to a game but everyone that goes there is rich tho?

games sold out regularly during the monte era

I got too drunk at a concert I didn't want to be at and told an aggressive stranger that tried to give me a high five to "fuck off." He replied that he is "from the bay area" and so "will kick my ass". I was by far the worst person involved in this embarrassing interaction, but I can no longer cheer for the GSW as they remind me of my shame. So CLE in 6.

the warriors should move their team to libertarian island like all their rich fans want

perfect and sublime Cavs in 6

Sufjan, that guy doesn't make sense. Did he mean to say he's from the East Bay?

He may have said that, even. I can't really remember what was said. I only know what others told me he said at Shame Brunch.

but it's good to narrow down his location should I ever need to apologize and give him that high five. maybe facing my shame and cheering for GSW could be like a high five of atonement? yeah, I'm back on the GSW bandwagon. GSW in 6.

games sold out regularly during the monte era

True but they cost way less then

obv big jump after the championship

http://i.imgur.com/WXRB9HL.png

last game i went to at oracle was in 06 to see diogu play :/

There were at least four games where I thought Diogu might be good

i think i was there for one of them. back row and people were so pumped every time he touched the ball. cheering for him to come back in when he sat too

late to this but folks I am a Bay Area Billionaire and find this thread offensive please be mindful

im appointing you the ILH-BAB liaison

some of my best friends are Bay Area Millionaires who can only afford the 4 game bundle package please don't sully their enjoyment

how is BABy formed

$80 would get you a nosebleed at the garden, not an "average seat"

disruption of the supermarket checkout experience is how BABy formed

a man and a woman really like each other. they get together. they order tide by pressing a disruptive tide-ordering button.

but it's good to narrow down his location should I ever need to apologize and give him that high five. maybe facing my shame and cheering for GSW could be like a high five of atonement? yeah, I'm back on the GSW bandwagon. GSW in 6.
--Sufjan Grafton

lol I love the socratic debate you engaged in w yourself to reach this conclusion

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GSW in 69 confirmed

totals

gsw 25
cle 5

something for the new yorkers: samsung is doing a marketing event with free screenings of the first four games on a three story screen made of 96 separate 55 inch displays.
RSVP here - https://www.samsung.com/us/837/events/nba-finals-viewing-party

i feel like the cavs will prob win 2 games. still think if the warriors are playing as well as we know they can the matchups just don't compute for the cavs but it's possible the warriors just can't hit that level now for whatever reason. if this went 7 i wouldn't be surprised, tho 5 wouldn't surprise me either.

steph gon start looking a lot more healthy playing against the cavs D my prediction

apologies to any bay area billionaires itt as well as real gsw fans here i didn't meant offend you

yeah didn't feel like the cavs d was really tested & for as hunky dory as everything looked for most of the offs for them this is a different animal entirely xp

the offenses they have faced so far didn't put any kind of consistent pressure on their defense they way golden state will. LBJ going to have to work on both ends of the floor like he hasn't had to so far

apologies to any bay area billionaires itt as well as real gsw fans here i didn't meant offend you

― marcos, Thursday, June 2, 2016 7:53 AM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm a billionaire and wasn't offended, no worries. Cos really, at the end of the day, all the people that were rooting on me to fail, they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today. They have the same personal problems they had today. I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want to do with me and my family and be happy with that. They can get a few days or a few months or whatever the case may be on being happy about me not accomplishing my goal. But they have to get back to the real world at some point.

same

lol

good quote imo

wondering if the warriors will continue to come out flat in the first half of these games.

kevin love defending PnR's will be a thing

or like they say a "point of emphasis"

a bullying delivery mechanism

i think the dubs will just score a ton of points constantly in this series and cleve won't be able to keep up. i'm anticipating a bunch of 120-105 wins and the like

reasonable

i predict there will be a debate about whether the three point shot has ruined basketball

remember cavs shoot but gsw just hoists

three pointers changed basketball, but not as fundamentally the shot clock. it's not even close.

spottie what exactly was your friends' reasoning that "cavs shoot but gsw just hoists"

shot clock should be 7 seconds so the hoisters can REALLY rule

i think my friend is dumb and he just sees the dubs as hey just out here "hoisting up crap" where the cavs move the ball around for open "shots" not sure tho really i don't want to ask

has he actually watched the cavs play lately

definitely not while sober.

if GSW hoist, then Steph is the Wolfman's Brother ergo Seth Curry is the Wolfman

didnt realize this started tonight, im pumped to see some hoisting now

gonna hoist a few cold ones myself friends

Leee don't forget there is a game tonight

GSW will be hoist on their own threes, pard

post "hoist" in this thread every time a hoister hoists

text "HOIST" to 415-HOI-STERS to donate to Layups for Tots

gonna smoke a ton tonite
go KLAY

I'm a billionaire and wasn't offended, no worries.

Isn't it quaint when the little folk talk about us? Haw haw!

Leee don't forget there is a game tonight

Thanks, I'll have my assistant put it in my calendar. OK Google, put game 1 into my calendar!

hoping for more of this action
https://thevanbrewverite.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/wp-1453322048440.gif

man if delly fucks up steph's knee there will be hell to pay

he'd be a hero in cleveland

to some maybe most of us are not that bad, would be so shitty and any resulting championship would be tainted

the tain would extend to roland garros

draymond would go full lucas hood on that motherfucker if he harmed steph

idk who lucas hood is does he kick people in the nuts

it is a phish song it was another phish joke.

xp lol he is the main character of banshee, a recently concluded tv show that involves egregious hand to hand violence, spottie can vouch for it

if phish ever made songs about banshee i might listen to them but probably not

ott violence is always good tv

except in the finals

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the nuts out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of Delly's eye.

I still love that gif of bron getting tooken

He goes through all seven stages of basketball grief in less than a second

Feel like he still does that super high dribble way out from his body when he's backing a man down, going after it is a gamble (and was once an invitation to get victimized by the chase-down block) but it's possible

let the hoisting begin

strange rendition john legend

he sounded pained

cleve leaving dray at the 3pt line

warriors in the finals again, and i've already seen my first harrison barnes hy-vee commercial.

Ok I know we clown mjax but that was a literal hand down man down situation

This already feels a lot easier for the dubs

warriors d killing cavs

greens floppy ass jeez

bron already carrying too much weight

lol did any of u catch curry taunting shumpert, poking him and shit

refs having a tough time figuring out who the balls off of

Yeah, lots of bad calls overall

nice moves by barbosa

these ghostbusters ads are weird, nice to see the zinger in them tho

Kerr comfortable with going with a steph and klay less lineup

dubs bench has been hot

hey I didn't know love and klay were childhood friends

yeah news to me too

cleveland not really controlling the pace at all which is going to be a prob

Clay what was it like hanging out with kev

surprisingly little hoisting so far

needs more hoisting

I am watching this! :o

feels like warriors are gonna blow it wide open in second half

also feels like warriors in 4

Cavs poised for a 2nd half run, everything in place.

Clay what was it like hanging out with kev

― 龜, Thursday, June 2, 2016 7:05 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i feel like i say this every year but klay and love grew up in the same shitty pdx suburb i did and i know a ~lot~ of dirt on their families lol

spill

Need to make sure it wont end up on deadspin first

thats ok i golf with peter thiel, we're safe

i don't know the first thing about klay or kevin themselves. mostly it's just basic stuff that you could deduce yourselves. basically the kinds of already-wealthyish families that produce world-class athletes are full of huge assholes surprise surprise.

lol @ kerr shattering the board

first half was a lil low key this feels more like finals

mark jackson goin on and on about how kyrie irving is underrated uh okay man

Cavs got Curry's number

steph doin bad

Nutslap

Nice

delly time

wth w this nut stuff my lord cp3 ahead of his time once again

cmon you can't call a tech on iggy there

everyone on tv pretending the nut slap was unintentional

delly wants to grab a joint so badly he can hardly contain it

i know this delly apologia is baffling

man that one official looks like he could be deviladova's brother

This is absurd on every level

if i get hit in the nuts my first reaction is not about whether it was intentional or not.

Delly looks like kev with the shave and short hair lol

That's how you respond to a nutslap

http://media2.newsnet5.com/photo/2015/06/10/Akron_sandwich_shop__Diamond_Delicatesse_3049190000_19602698_ver1.0_640_480.jpg

not into this sandwich

Smelly looks like/ is a rodent

Not fixing that autocorrect

Ban wraps

lol beautiful

wraps: how bout an uncooked burrito w a chalky ass tortilla

gs bench winning this game all night

feeling this denzel western

cream cheese and colby is just not a cool combo, the imagination that produces that kinda messes w/ my theory of mind

pizza place near my old job had really good wraps and it ruined wraps for me forever because i have not since had a single one that was half as good & eventually gave up

Looks terrible

xp

curry overrated, dawn of the shaun time imo.

fuck any sandwich or wrap that has like 10 things in it

if gs wins the title w/o steph ever playing good and w giving minutes to andy varajao they really r the greatest team

Dubs gonna win with both klay and steph in single digits lmao

yeah that wrap has either 2 cheeses or 2 sauces so it breaks sandwich law in one way or another

Damn, Livingston

so happy for shaun

2015 mvp iggy
2016 mvp livingston

maybe stop letting him get to that spot lol

i know he has one spot on the whole court lol

livingston's midrange is impeccable, wish we had a guy like that

I hate this game.

jr gonna be useless this year again huh

number of missed layups by the cavs has been pretty gross

this is....not encouraging if you are cleveland

RIP Cavs

Haha Livingston goes to the bench and doesn't even have enough time to get his sweatshirt on before the Warriors go the other way on a fastbreak.

The cavs don't seem to me to be a team with very good chemistry

has anyone under thirty seen an old tarzan movie? like pre bo derek? those things were on tv like crazy when i was a kid

warriors opponents this postseason:

thunder >>>>>>>> blazers >> cavs >∞> rockets

There were some times this game where I thought jr seemed hesitant to shoot

feel like this game has been in the bottom 5% of hoisting outcomes for these 2 teams

where's matt's draymond post

ok here's the hoisting here we go

gonna send tape of this game to anyone who says benches don't matter in the playoffs.

JR's hand is messed up tonight, which is why he isn't hoisting shooting.

prob no way the warriors bench will play this well again but this is a bad look for the cavs regardless

that frye/bron bench lineup that had been so big for the cavs was nonexistent tonight

Weird game

prob no way the warriors bench will play this well again

yeah they def will not but they won this game outright

i guess game 1 are often kinda meaningless in terms of how series end up playing out....

prob no way steph and klay have this big an off-night again

warriors opponents this postseason:

thunder >>>>>>>> blazers >> cavs >∞> rockets > old tarzan movies

so many what could have beens with livingston but he'll always have this game

cavs are better than the blazers lets keep it real here

Feel confisent about my dubs in three predict

As far as matching up against gsw tho? Xp

so many what could have beens with livingston but he'll always have this game

he's been good for them this entire run

the healthy dubs would have swept the blazers in four 20 point games

he's been good for them this entire run

― J0rdan S., Thursday, June 2, 2016 11:45 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh for sure he's really consistent but tonight he got to dominate portions of a finals game. just cool to see.

the cavs are toast. they shut down klay and curry and still lost by 20 points.

they would have done even worse if the referees ever called a charge on lebron when he did that shoulder lowering, fullback bullshit

they did call that, he had an offensive foul early on iirc

As far as matching up against gsw tho?

let's play a few more games before we jump to conclusions here

Livingston has been p bad since losing his starting spot to curry tbf. One ok game in the wcf that's it really.

Splash bros all splashed out but the bench was more than happy to show up since they didn't play much last series

Scoops Maroun @ejmaroun
Livingston is 18-21 against the Cavs this year in 3 games

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkAN9e2VAAInX4n.jpg:large

xp holy shit, maybe that's why my impression of Livingston is that he doesn't miss

lol @ treesh showing up just in time for the finals, now just waiting for deej to barge in saying the bulls will win next year and for bo jackson overdrive to start shitposting at a great clip

that's ilh baby

it's cool how you invoke me with no provocation, always

Like get off my dick dude

lol

next year is the lakers year btw

always

wondering if they will keep bron on cary as much as they did last night for game 2. he did a good job, fought through everything but it opened up so many other lanes

yeah thru the first 3 qs i felt like he had found a nice equilibrium between playing w/ the "it's all on me" intensity of the last year's finals but w/o playing the actual game of basketball as he did in that series

his shot seemed more or less on by his current standard but it seemed like he had trouble finishing around the rim especially when the warriors went small? a big thing in the thunder series was that draymond didn't work as a rim protector for a big bulk of it but if lebron etc can't beat him at the rim then all the matchups start slotting into place for the dubs. i guess tristan had a few unstoppable moments there in the third which might nudge the dubs into going bigger.

the warriors team rebounding is on point at the moment, a few got away from them but the energy was there all night. I think the okc series really locked them in to that. Only 7 turnovers as well, theyve been good with those since those first three games vs okc. overall they really did look a lot more comfy out there as far as being able to play the way they want to play.

game 2 is gonna be v different tho. i don't expect the cavs to miss 25 layups and the splash bros to combine for 20 again.

*9 turnovers

there really should be a game on Saturday

I agree. A Saturday night game would allow me to watch it. Sunday afternoons are taken up by a higher priority: visits with my daughter.

More viewers on Sunday

it's during game of thrones

already conceding that battle w/my wife

If you get a Chromecast or FireTV stick or whatever, you can watch GoT early, I think. Or just watch it after the game?

Because I don't think this has been posted yet: https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/738561517512052740/video/1

Been noticing kerr has some really weird facial tics during games

he stabbed it w a pen lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cj-m2lUUgAAo0UF.jpg
Love is the big, Klay bottom left

lmao lakers

that's my high school lol

they were your boys admit it

i'm was prob old enough to be their freshman year english teacher at the time!

clay, if you were a laker, does this mean you were also a sailor when you were across the street? and did you take the big walk over on the last day?

i was totally a sailor if that's what the jr high kids are even called, it's been 20 years. i don't think i took the big walk bc i basically dngaf even then, longtime ngaf'er over here

is this part of the thread my spotlight episode of lost and we're like learning my backstory for the first time

cut to the big reveal of how i ironically became a bay area billionaire

lmao

fwiw, I live just down the hill at the base of iron mt. mr. terry stotts lives a few houses away from my humble hovel and I sometimes see him out jogging or else walking with a small, foofy white dog attached to a leash, looking preoccupied. cue the manic dolls singing it's a small world

huh! i had no idea. we might have been neighbors 15 years ago, aimless. i lived just off iron mt in, uh, the late 90's maybe?

I love LeBron, but he's going to pout like a baby girl when he gets swept.

haha o lord https://twitter.com/robmahoney/status/738771130748522497

Mesmerizing

You could definitely argue the Cavs put too much focus on containing Curry and Thompson instead of playing a well-rounded defense

lol, on one hand the cavs lost game one of a playoff series to the home team, nbd. on the other hand, that happened.

You could definitely argue the Cavs put too much focus on containing Curry and Thompson instead of playing a well-rounded defense
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Saturday, 4 June 2016 12:43

barbosa and livingston scored most of their points with klay/curry of the court right?

I guess this is our active thread rn so I'll just put it here, but a great interview with Doris Burke that touches on a lot of institutional sexism in professional sports that maybe I don't spend enough time acknowledging http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/doris-burke-on-curry-vs-lebron-sports-sexism.html

santana huh

Damn you early start almost skipped the first hour of this game!

I guess this is our active thread rn so I'll just put it here, but a great interview with Doris Burke that touches on a lot of institutional sexism in professional sports that maybe I don't spend enough time acknowledging http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/doris-burke-on-curry-vs-lebron-sports-sexism.html
--Clay

this was good stuff, doris is fantastic

golden state sorta farted away the opening minutes and since then have locked thee fuck down on defense. bogut having a block party

on the other side of things tristan thompson had a reverse move that was kinda cool and JR has in fact taken a shot that went in

Who had Lebron in the nut shot pool this game

cavs are making a point of crowding the passer

So far the only thing tyronn lue does as a coach that i can tell is call timeouts after warrior runs

another playoff wedgie truly we are blessed

Love locked instantly dejected when curry pulled up his dribble in the lane and shook him

man that's a big hit

gotta give credit to dray for gingerly jumping around love, that's some on the fly image rehabilitation right there

the fix is in

HOW IS THAT NOT A FOUL?!?!?!?!?

gotta keep the bay area billionaires happy

crazy fucking calls this game huh

yeah i aint even rooting for cleve and these non-calls are clear bs

Cavs have been a disaster finding their defensive assignments in transition, Jr. smith was headed to guard a spot at the three line that curry wasn't even going toward which let iggy back cut straight to the hoop

that is a garbage foul on tt, bogut clearly had him wrapped up

Bet cle wishes they had some of blatts defensive schemes rn

*refs call travel on lebron on two possessions in a row*

*k3v k begins breathing heavily*

theyre calling travels on lebron repeatedly now to seal the deal

rip cavs

the cavs seem drunk

Inserting mozgov definitely doesnt seem like a desperation move

lolllll barbosa

the difference in team-building philosophies is really amazing to see here.

where does lebron play next year?

I love the idea of Lebron at center but that just did not work, then the immediate response to going big with moz.gov and Tristan is for curry to bomb away from thirty feet...welp

trees you should be happy, lebron getting called for all that "fullback bullshit" you were talking about

lebron must leave to save cleveland

where does lebron kyrie play next year?

he ain't fraid of no ghosts

Take curry out ffs

^^^^^

God I fucking hate being a Cleveland fan.

Empty seats already disgraceful

bay area billionaires got places to go

seriously though who the fuck leaves an nba finals game early especially when your team is dominating at home

not going to blame anyone who tries to dodge some bay area traffic

they have "work" tomorrow

the east bay interstates are terrifying and i say this as an experienced massachusetts driver

this game was kinda sad in a way

haha oh definitely

agreed

home court won't be a huge help if cavs can't also figure out some other shit

home court comes with the option to play all 12 players at once, right? thats why its so effective?

Cavs really made a point to take away the three point shot to the point where they gave up 25 back door cuts without pressuring the ball

seriously though who the fuck leaves an nba finals game early especially when your team is dominating at home

fwiw it was EXTREMELY nice outside today

If I ever pay to go to a finals game you better believe I'll be the first one there and the last one to leave

*refs call travel on lebron on two possessions in a row*

*k3v k begins breathing heavily*

― 龜, Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:50 PM (Yesterday)

lol these were great calls btw and he got away with an even more blatant one earlier

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkP3Q4HUkAAX6BB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/omz557H.jpg

some rando retweeted me from a couple years ago saying the dubs shdve traded for love and im extremely roasted

its gotten two likes too this is hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikTOJ79fP8A

lol owned xp

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8wMzCgmMh8E

otm

pr cool rondo retweeted you

i hope i retweeted the right one

yeah thx dan

feel like the phrasing gives me some plausible deniability

its okay we've already established that klay love and clay are all basically the same person

in a epistemological, ontological sense u cld say they have already been traded for each other

also metaphysical

warriors destroying the cavs via taking what theyre given http://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/06/warriors-stephen-curry-klay-thompson-steve-kerr-cavaliers-nba-finals-lebron-james

def remember thinking "well i guess we'll see" when smart people spent the entire season saying the cavs matched up terribly w/ the dubs but i guess it was true!

lue has coached a bad series tho

headline on espn "Cavs still have hope of winning NBA Finals?"

lol @ "?"

feel like its not so much a match up issue as its the dubs r just much better

Yeah Cavs are the 4th best team in the league, that's p much it

of course but the cavs are giving the warriors way less trouble than i.e. the blazers, they're basically on a level w/ the rockets in terms of how easy the dubs are dispatching them & no one would say the cavs and rockets are equals so obv there's some match up prob

i guess the more interesting question is if the cavs brain trust aka lebron can a. identify the problem b. figure out how to fix it my guesses are maybe and no

i mean via roster moves in the offseason

Kyrie for CP3 trade will go out there.

Love for Melo probably not str8 up but a three way deal.

Bron wants the banana boat

dubs supporting cast is so good that they can severely punish any team that tires to shut down steph & klay. this has been demonstrated all season. okc got closer than anyone has to matching the dubs, but they didn't overweight their defense like the cavs have

yeah still kinda mystifying that cavs went from going up 2-1 via clampdown defense + lebron train to like, dubs scrimmage chum

lack of blatt defensive schemes?

lol i mean its prob just the dubs having jumped lightyears ahead but i certainly dont think tyronn lue is helping

the cavs should be playing the same strategy as the blazers which was basically to run up and down w/ the warriors and bomb as many threes as them. it's prob suicidal but at least introduces variance and the cavs can really shoot it. right now they're playing this bizarre mix of the warriors pace but w/o shooting threes w/ them it makes no sense.

feel like its not so much a match up issue as its the dubs r just much better

― lag∞n, Monday, June 6, 2016 2:50 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, this is a 65-70 win team vs a 55-60 win team the difference is fairly large

also let's not forget that for whatever style the cavs were playing last year the dubs basically had that 2-2.5 game choke-y hiccup moment under the bright lights that was not going to happen this year

it's really bizarre to see the team that was breaking 3 point playoff records in the 2nd round shoot so terribly. and no the hawks defense does not explain the difference.

though the hawks offense might explain it.

yeah the warriors were kinda shook for the first few games to start last year. Think they thought it would come easy but they've learned and now are better. cavs are playing like they haven't realized whats going on yet, still asleep at the wheel from the rest of the offs. Not at one point in this series have I felt like the Cavs have figured anything out. Even when they took the lead early or got back within striking distance it wasn't really cos of anything they were doing, its just either the warriors turning it over or missing open shots.

blazers are v young with young legs and they can run all day long. they have a lot of odd pieces coming off the bench with particular talents that stotts can use to make strategic adjustments. the blazers also have stotts, not lue, so there's that, too.

steph didnt play in the blazers series hello!

many xp jordan

also let's not forget that for whatever style the cavs were playing last year the dubs basically had that 2-2.5 game choke-y hiccup moment under the bright lights that was not going to happen this year

― J0rdan S., Monday, June 6, 2016 3:05 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah the dubs got their game choke moments over early with the thunder

steph didn't play

except to score 17 points in overtime!

i find it really sad that richard jefferson is getting regular minutes in the 2016 playoffs.

basically the only genuine steph moment in the whole series xp

by the eye test he seems to be playing really well! xp

i know he is doing fine Ive just not been a fan of him since he was on the warriors

basically the only genuine steph moment in the whole series xp

― lag∞n, Monday, June 6, 2016 12:27 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also 2nd Q of okc game 2. game 7 too

thats a diff series man!!!

oh i read that as "whole playoffs"

Remember when Chris Paul and Blake Griffin got hurt at the Dubs didn't have to play them lol

that was a weird night

so does anyone wanna revise their prediction to a sweep? i still think this goes to 6; they split the next two games in cleveland, lebron scores some ridic numbers in game 5 and the warriors demolish them in game 6. i guess if love is really injured maybe 5?

i think cavs get game 3 and thats it. same as I thought b4 the series started

i predicted the sweep and i am holding fast

i am revising my prediction to a sweep

There is no glimmer of anything that is working for the cavs right now

this type of thing is really fascinating to me
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=15633764
seems like a p sweet gig

xp well, yes. shumpert and JR are all but invisible, thompson isn't proving more than more than just being a big body, Love looks like a defensive liability, kyrie can't find his game... but lebron is still lebron and my inclination is to give them one more game than I would otherwise by virtue of his muscle and will.
by which i don't mean to suggest that i LIKE lebron; i've kept the last games of both prior year finals just because it's fun to watch sad lebron.
i also wouldn't write off the cavs willingness to get much more physical, like desperation let's-take-this-guy-out physical, as long as the refs aren't calling contact fouls near the basket. right before they pulled steph in the fourth quarter (and kerr left him in longer than I'd prefer), there were two back-to-back take down fouls on him that did not bode well.

i predicted dubs in three. silver is going to step in after game 3 to stop the pain

feel like the cavs cld win game 3 just cause the dubs dont seem to be trying very hard and if the the bounces arent going their was theyll just be all whatever

cavs best chance would involve basketball adopting football rules and having different units on offense and defense.

yeah if curry is on the court at the same time as james jones and dahhntay jones then Kerr should be fired immediately xps

I said dubs in 5 but am leaning towards a sweep. shame that the raps turned up and the option of cavs sweeping the east and getting swept eludes us.

ya that wldve been tite af

i don't see how this isn't over in 5. honestly wonder if the warriors might let the cavs win one so they can celebrate at home.

That would be kind.

I think everyone would be happier if dubs finished this at home

draymond sitting in a darkened corner, sharpening the spike on the toe of his brand new HyperRevs, looking into the camera pitilessly, saying "i think everyone would be happier if dubs finished this at home... don't you?"

in the background, you can faintly hear falsetto chants of "jones barbecue and foot massage, jones barbecue and foot massage"

dubs equipment manager seems like a really cool guy

Doesn't seem like a sweet gig to me, it looks really hard!

http://67.media.tumblr.com/463eefea4e5423670aab3d5839eace3d/tumblr_n707u2vdlb1rgx7ico1_400.gif

happy 15 year anniversary, coach lue

post-game interview with lue was not good, I felt bad for him

lowe on klay http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16007209/there-fuels-klay-thompson-more-losing-people-underestimating-skills

Even bullish executives didn't see this coming in 2011 -- a perceived lack of respect that still rankles Thompson. He came across as quiet, disinterested, lacking a hunger to broaden both his game and his life horizons. During his rookie season, the Warriors assigned him a book report on "Play Their Hearts Out," George Dohrmann's outstanding peek inside West Coast AAU basketball -- an attempt to coax Thompson out of his comfort zone, and "expand his mind beyond basketball," Lacob said.

Draft experts wondered if he was too slow to defend at a high level. "I'd read reports, and they'd say, 'His defense needs work, he's not quick, he can't stay in front of anybody,'" Thompson said. "And I'd be like, 'Are these guys even watching me play?'"

The intel on Thompson was so jumbled, the Spurs needed two private workouts before deciding to attempt trading up to get him. After one workout, Chip Engelland, the Spurs' shooting guru, told the front office something that made their hair stand on end, officials remember: Thompson's competitive nature reminded him of Manu Ginobili.

"There's something deep in there," Engelland recalled. "He has that chip. When you see it, you know it."

Thompson says heated competition with his athlete brothers, Mychel and Trayce, made losing at anything -- basketball, pingpong, whatever -- a searing, unpalatable personal failure. And he has always been a worker. Lacob once asked Thompson what he did for fun. Thompson simply responded, "I like to shoot." Lacob explained that he meant what Thompson did off the floor. Thompson shrugged and repeated himself: "I like to shoot."

the "i like to shoot" anecdote is priceless

lol

kawhi-esque

ah man the spurs almost traded up for him that just....

altho losing out on him is what probably allowed them to get kawhi, so

ya same draft

its ok im over it already

its cool u dont really need both of those guys or anything that wldnt be insanely unstoppable

i mean what im saying is i dont think the spurs would be able to trade for both anywayyyyy

ya i know i was saying the same thing, except what if they cldve?

i mean i guess if u wanna trade one of the big 3 that seems reasonable

hey btw the finals are happening and the warriors are winning it

hmm never heard of em tbh

im surprised, bay area billionaires are v fond of them they have even made some apps for them

oh im more of a rocky mountains billionaire tbh

nuggets will win the nba playoffs

do ppl even watch sporst in colorado now that they can smoke weed legally 420/7?

BREAKING: Dankver Nugs owner disbanding team, losing was "harshing his buzz"

Colorado Rapids selling all soccer balls for hacky sacks, going to sit out the next couple of seasons to find themselves

in colorado the main sports are climbing on rocks (for some reason? seems dangerous?) riding bikes and getting mad lifted

no joke my horrible fuckshit brother in law literally moved my wife's sister out to colorado to climb rocks

ya by my informal count ~50% of colorado residents relocated from texas to climb rocks and toke artisanal weed

i only know the southwestern part of colorado where my uncle lives but its good

he doesnt even smoke weed! literally just to climb rocks

he shd... .... .... smoke rocks, lol

we have very good friends in crestone there is a lot of rock climbing and toking happening there

there are rocks everywhere imo

so what are the cavs gonna do

is there any hope of anything but more blowout

surely they won't win the series, that is a fact but i just want to see one game won at this point

start delly and mozgov and sit love and kyrie

there are rocks everywhere imo

― ciderpress, Tuesday, June 7, 2016 12:25 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"lotta rocks around better climb em" --the human race which is fundamentally insane

i take the long way around instead of climbing the rocks which is called hiking and is very good

hiking is fine i mean a nice nature walk who cld have a problem with that

I wish JR Smith would go climb some rocks right about now. If he doesn't start hoisting soon I may go mad.

yeah the cavs just need to get to hoisting not sure what they are waiting for hoisting wins shampionships

otm gotta hoist

he should hoist rocks like rocky the iv, the man who hoisted rocks on his opponents to defeat communism

he should heed the example of rocky the iii who did not hoist rocks and instead got mr. t'd (technnical fouls)

yea more hoisting needs to happen, finishing around the rim on sloppy lay-ups is just not happening

just read the lowe klay piece and i forgot this fact completely:

Thompson holds a semi-tongue-in-cheek grudge against the Kings for daring to draft another shooter, Jimmer Fredette, over him

.......lol

start delly and mozgov and sit love and kyrie

― Spottie, Tuesday, June 7, 2016 12:29 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seems like delly for sure needs more minutes, but i don't think you can realistically not start kyrie. superstar egos and all that

lue shd be like 'i didnt get murked by allen iverson to live thru this shit' and then show everyone the stigmata scars on his hands

yeah was just tongue in cheek xp since thats who they HAD to start last year and would have beat the dubs if they were healthy etc etc would be funny to have to revert to that

whats the status on love anyway? concussion or no?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jun/07/kevin-love-cavaliers-injured-game-3-warriors

Still going through protocol no update

he got clocked i don't see how he plays tomorrow

i liked this piece https://theringer.com/kevin-love-cleveland-cavaliers-trade-247956d0fcde#.mejew3x2e

that said i'm sort of over the whole wiggins/love thing bcuz andrew wiggins isn't actually that good and if he was on the cavs bricking threes in the finals all we would be talking about is how the cavs should have traded him for a player like kevin love who could help them win now

otm

his timeline just didn't mesh with lebron's. it was a good move

bring on the banana boat

the thing with keeping wiggins tho is they woulda had money to get more depth

their problem right now isn't depth... they have more players than they can play (i.e. channing frye). it's that the players aren't good enough.

w/o love you start getting into an entire alternate history but basically i don't think andrew wiggins was worth keeping for the cavs. maybe kevin love wasn't the right fish to lure in but nobody knew that at the time.

yeah it was the right move at the time.

unlikely they cldve got anyone better, maybe a combo of quality roles players cldve worked out tho who knows

im much more interested in attempts to decode how good kevin love actually is. it's fascinating!

he's clearly amazingly talented as an offensive player but i wonder if he peaked in those two seasons in minny

ya agree re the mysteries of love, seems unlikely hell ever recapture his minny peak but its also v obvious that hes not being given the opportunity to succeed in cleve, feel like he cld still put up big numbers in the right situation but his defensive limitations and positional inflexibility are still problematic

not hard to imagine him regaining 95% of his MIN form in the right situation

yeah the only reason im skeptical is just cause those numbers were so nuts in the first place

ya agree re the mysteries of love

We don't need Zach Lowe, we need Pablo Neruda.

lol

i've come to think that love is one of the least versatile players on the planet, like if you give him run to do the 4-5 things he's really good at he'll get numbers but he's so hopeless at everything other than those 4-5 things and i don't think he's really interested in getting better at them.

sounds abt right

basically he plays like he was programmed to run the a.i. of a 90s basketball videogame

i was going thru teams trying to find one that fit the love criteria and theres not much out there since a lot of the 5s he might pair well with are on the FA or trade market

maybe denver but they're a year or 2 too early to be making big moves

celtics w amir johnson, great perimeter D, the assets to trade makes a lot of sense

is amir signed for next year that works if so

ya hes got one more

i've come to think that love is one of the least versatile players on the planet, like if you give him run to do the 4-5 things he's really good at he'll get numbers but he's so hopeless at everything other than those 4-5 things and i don't think he's really interested in getting better at them.

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, June 7, 2016 2:28 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

kevin love = nick young

ive been on board w/ love to celtics for a while i think if there's any coach that can set up a narrow player to succeed its brad

nick young is only good at like 1 thing tho

im on record as declaring love to celtics destiny so theres no point in fighting it

ugh

love is prob worth the #3 straight up given the scuttlebutt re: many players below 1 and 2 in this draft, he's def not worth #3 plus actual players imo

maybe some second rounders too if only so ainge doesn't have to draft-and-stash five separate euroballers due to roster crowding issues

the only problem w the deal is it wld need a third team involved cause i dont think cleve is interested in draft picks

with love the cavs bought high and will be reluctant to sell low. the celtics would be buying low on love, so it makes great sense to buy in, if love gets offered. but this is verging on offseason stuff, not finals.

the finals are bad though

well, there's that

love is worth a lot more than the #3 straight up

love to the celtics makes sense for the celtics but idk what the lebrons want with the #3 pick and spare parts. there would have to be another team

the finals are bad though

― ciderpress, Tuesday, June 7, 2016 2:46 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm i'm already moving on to the offseason tbh, this love discussion way more interesting

good article jordan thanks for sharing

congrats warriors you are the best team its true

bring on the banana boat

― lag∞n, Tuesday, June 7, 2016 1:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feeling like this is going to happen, in cleveland of all places

im so sorry for cleveland fans

love to Celtics, #3 and some second rounders to Knicks, melo to the banana boat tada

im so sorry for cleveland fans

― ciderpress, Tuesday, June 7, 2016 3:13 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol bc of finals or bc of banana boat possibility

love to Celtics, #3 and some second rounders to Knicks, melo to the banana boat tada

― Clay, Tuesday, June 7, 2016 3:15 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and kyrie for cp3 and we done

xp impending banana boat, i doubt anyone had high hopes for these finals (i hope not)

banana boat cleve could be fun

if banana boat happens in cleveland the fans will eat that shit up imo

if it happens elsehwere well you know

this is good http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/6/7/11875536/stephen-curry-klay-thompson-amazing-decoys-nba-finals-2016

love is worth a lot more than the #3 straight up

love to the celtics makes sense for the celtics but idk what the lebrons want with the #3 pick and spare parts. there would have to be another team

― k3vin k., Tuesday, June 7, 2016 2:48 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

he's worth the #3 in this draft i think. i don't think he was worth the #3 in last year's draft (in a world where the third pick was porzingis instead of okafor)

the other thing w/ love is that maybe his health will never be where it once was even tho he can still look like the same player. sorta like what happened to dwight howard but on a much more protracted timeline.

love to the celtics straight up for #3 would be interesting if the cavs could flip #3 to a team that really liked a player there and also had a good nba vet to spare but idk what team that would be....

apropos of nothing, the weirdest prop bet i would place right now were it available would be steph hosting an snl episode next season

love was traded for the #1 pick in what was supposed to be the draft of the decade PLUS some other stuff just 2 years ago. i don't think the perception of his value has regressed so much that he's now worth the #3 pick in what is (afaict) considered to be a draft with 2 players of superstar potential

http://i.imgur.com/djp6FJ4.jpg

heads he has a concussion, tails he what were we talking about?

did we about JR's reality show Kickstarter http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/j-r--smith-is-crowdfunding-a-reality-tv-show-during-the-nba-finals-153248638.html

*did we talk about

i thought there was a game tonight. v rude that there is no game.

Hahah I thought so too!

I guess better than forgetting there's a game on.

That jr thing looks really bad

tyronn not really an Xs and Os guy lol http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=16024869

cavs were bottom of this list too from 3 years ago http://regressing.deadspin.com/which-nba-coaches-are-best-at-designing-plays-during-t-1482773198

feel like thats one of the main places you can have an affect on the game as a coach. also one of the main reasons i love kerr. hiring smart assistants helps too.

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Kevin Love has been informed that he will not be medically cleared to play in Wednesday night's Game 3, ESPN has learned

welp

Cavs have a chance now!

Ouch. 5 games then.

haha

w/ the way the first two games went, especially game 2, i had such a weird reaction to love getting hurt, basically (apart from his well-being) it's meaningless

do they start r jeff or start shumpert and move bron to the 4?

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE REFS DIDN'T CALL A FOUL ON THE PLAY.

bc it wasnt a foul