King of Kong

Oh man!! I can't wait to see this!

Billy Mitchell is the perfect cocky videogame master archetype.

That looks AWESOME

they showed it at the film festival here but the time kinda sucked so i missed it :(

Iron Man Contest

The goal of the Iron Man competition was simple: you had to carry your game for as long as you could. If anyone passed 100 hours, they would be awarded a $10,000 prize from the Sports Achievement Association. The contest started at 11:00 AM. One player, a Japanese teenager, resigned his game at the seven-hour mark after being confronted by his weeping family.

The games continued unbroken until the 24-hour barrier, in which Tom Asaki lost his Nibbler game due to a glitch in the game. In Nibbler, each statistic was allotted 256 bits of data. Each extra life accumulated would add two bits to the load on the Extra Lives data. If it were to go over 256 bits (128 lives), all the lives in reserve would be reset to zero. Asaki did not even know of this bug until warned by Billy Mitchell that he was accumulating lives too fast. Tom's game ended with a score of 300 million points.

Mitchell himself was the next to go, after 39 hours. The trackball broke down due to the body oils from his hands. By the time the machine could be repaired, Mitchell was already in a deep sleep, effectively eliminating him from the competition. His game ended with an impressive 10,774,191 points.

Mark Bersabe lost his final man on Asteroids after 45 hours, with a score of 18,552,590 points (far from Scott Safran's record of 41,336,440 points). Jeff Peters, who played Q*Bert while sitting in a recliner (with the control panel in his lap) lasted until the fifty-hour mark until collapsing from exhaustion, with 19,498,150 points.

The winner of the contest was 18-year-old James Vollandt, who carried his Joust game for 67½ hours. After being the only one remaining in competition (after Peters' elimination), he resorted to dangerous techniques to keep himself awake, including blasting his face with freon, starting at the sixty-hour mark. The game malfunctioned at around 58 hours, wiping out all of his 210 extra lives. However, he earned back forty of them. He left the game voluntarily, with a record-breaking score of 107,216,700 points, a record that still stands to this day. However, Vollandt did not receive the prize money because he did not pass the 100-hour mark.

THE FUCK

Vollandt = pussy.

Freon in the face? 80s nerds are way fucking scarier than today's nerds. Ten Red Bulls to play an all-nighter of Halo is fucking nothing compared to that shit.

I just saw this tonight at the Nuart and it is the best movie I've seen all year. No joke.

Is this getting any sort of distribution?

I'm going to the SF screening tonight!

Yeah, it's really great.

seen it! wonderfullll! billy mitchell is the lamest person possible. he gets the high score for lameness. you cant even say he's an asshole really cause he's so lame.

incidentally they kept using some footage of him from another documentary (on mtv i think?) where he's shelving hot sauce. but what they dont tell you in king of kong is he's MOVING HIS COMPETITORS SAUCE OUT OF THE WAY TO MAKE MORE ROOM FOR HIS OWN LOL AND THE WHOLE TIME HES SAYING SHIT UNDER HIS BREATH LIKE ITS THE LITTLE THINGS THAT GET YOU AHEAD IM A COMPETITOR NEVER SURRENDER ETC

no wai! i was wondering if that was what he was doing, & then thinking nah they'd have mentioned it - he truly is the king of lameness.

I loved that bit in the MTV documentary. I mean, Billy Mitchell is kinda lame I guess but I think he's great in a Mark Borchardt sorta way.

mark borchardt is totally likable and charming. billy is just an over the top pitiful douche. A CAPTIVATING HILARIOUSLY MEGALOMANIACAL OVER THE TOP PITIFUL DOUCHE. but still.

i love all his sycophants too.

Now that this movie is kind of a hit, I wonder if Chasing Ghosts: Beyond the Arcade will finally come out? It seems like it goes over in more detail the history parts from this one - with lots of the same people. I want to see it...

http://chasingghoststhemovie.com/

yah that looks awesome

fuck i really wonder if this is gonna open here

http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1317769/7245531/

slox it was at fantasia :(

god, billy mitchell is such a fucking CUNT

I LOVE YOU STEVE WIEBE!!!!

I actually just feel a little sad for billy mitchell tbh

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1565744/20070727/id_0.jhtml

yah im sure billy mitchell has some long nites. you dont get to be a psycho narcissist like that w/o harboring some bleak darkness.

blasting his face with freon

http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&pi=2&gi=3852&vi=22

BILLY MITCHELL RECLAIMED THE WORLD RECORD!
SORRY ABOUT THE ALL CAPS BUT IT'S THAT KIND OF MOMENT.
IF YOU GO TO THE ABOVE LINK, IT SHOWS BILLY MITCHELL AS THE NEW TOP SCORE RECORD HOLDER AT 1,050,200 POINTS, VERIFIED BY REFEREE ON 6/26/2007, THREE MONTHS AFTER THE HIGH SCORE BY STEVE WIEBE THAT WAS REFERENCED AT THE END OF THE MOVIE!

phew.

WHAT AN ASSHOLEEEEEEEEE!

Does the 100% mean the record is unbeatable?

Billy really needs to work on his Zaxxon score now:
http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=28206

I think 100% just means he completed the game - getting to the dead screen (or whatever it is called)...

Yeah, but like a perfect game of Pac-Man is 3,333,360. He was the first to do that, and you can't beat that score, so now it's "fastest perfect game," which it looks like he's ranked 5th in. I'm wondering if 1,050,200 is as high as you can go, or if there even is such a thing as a perfect game of Donkey Kong.

Pretty sure he ended his game after beating Wiebe and could've continued if he wanted to set the score even higher.

see brian kuh is still only 6th in the world. what a loser.

Maybe on the DVD they could include one of the high score gettin' game play videos - because just from watching the doc, I don't really understand what/how the high scores are accomplished - i mean, is there just tons of hiding in a corner and jumping over barrels? Is there a time limit of how long the game lets you hang out on each screen?

This movie was unbelievably good.
I really didn't want to know that Mitchell regained the lead.

Maybe on the DVD they could include one of the high score gettin' game play videos

The video of Billy Mitchell's new record score (apologies if this doesn't work; I am at work and so can't try it)

didn't work :(

it "worked" but that didn't seem to have jack shit to do with a high score, I mean that game was about 1/25th of the way to the high score when the vidoe ended - is that The Advantage playing, though?

So they're (New Line) are remaking this as a feature film

I'm not sure it needs to be, it's already utterly theatrical as it stands. Great though, and I'm hardly surprised Mitchell has come back since to regain the crown. It's his way.

Maybe they should make a sequel?

This actually reminds me of my youth when I was king of 'Outzone' at our local rec arcade centre. And then some kid called 'Adi' arrived and started becoming my nemesis by topping my scores. Whenever either of us stepped up there'd be a fair crowd gathering.

I set the records, Adi beat them, I'd set a new one, and so it went on.

I think I managed to stay the champ before the game was removed, with a glorious 400% clocking of the game (and some very very sweaty hands)

And now I play the flippin thing on Mame I can't even get 100%!!

I'd like to see Billy Mitchell play Pac-Man C.E. because that game is so good.

I think I will go see this this weekend.

"gnarly poontang"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3gW_91bjkg

This was just so good i may have to watch it again tonight.

LOL at the moment where Billys's colleague (the one he confronted about the fake hiscore) is talking to the camera about what a great guy Steve Wiebe is, and Billy's reaction is priceless.

Just watched this last night, and it's so good. Mitchell is such a cock! I'm sure they've done the film in a way to deliberately make Wiebe look like a great guy, which I'm sure he is but he's obviously every bit as competetive as Mitchell, just not as much of a bell end.

BTW, I checked Twin Galaxies and I actually have a pretty competetive high score on the Gameboy Tetris. Is it lame to be tempted to submit something? :(

Do it!

Totally not lame, i'm tempted to get my Outzone up there, because the current champ is nowhere near my best!

I've beaten the NES Marble Madness Top Score a few different times. I suppose I should tape it. But, there's not much competition for that score. I haven't scored below 100,000 points in a game of Marble Madness since the 1990s, which would automatically put me up on the list.

OH MY GOD

this has nothing to do with the film but this was shown at before the movie at the theater i was at. AWESOME:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YnpofBtijF8&mode=related&search=

G: When you broke the Donkey Kong world record and your score was verified, how did Twin Galaxies and Billy Mitchell respond?

TS: Shortly after my record WAS VERIFIED, Walter Day, and Billy Mitchell himself, called to congratulate me. I find this to be in stark contrast as how I've heard Billy is portrayed in the movie The King of Kong.

Variation: Fastest Completion
Platform: Nintendo Entertainment System
Rules: TGTS Settings [3 Lives to Start, 5 Lives Maximum], Normal Difficulty
Special Rules: Use of the pause button is strictly prohibited! Using the select button to rapidly enter and exit the sub menu, as your weapon hits the enemy, to register more then one hit is BANNED! Rapid Use of the sub menu to pass through the walls on any stage is also banned. Passwords are NOT allowed! Timer starts when you hit the start button and ends when you defeat Dr. Wily for the final time. You must complete the game or your record/attempt will be disqualified!

Rank % Score Fastest Time Player DateVerified ScoringMethod RankingMethod PointsInt PointsFloat Levels ElapsedTime CompletedPercentage Ranking DisplayMaskPointsInt DisplayMaskPointsFloat DisplayMaskLevels DisplayMaskTime DisplayMaskCompleted DisplayMaskRanking ScoreCatPointsIntID ScoreCatPointsInt ScoreCatPointsFloatID ScoreCatPointsFloat ScoreCatLevelsID ScoreCatLevels ScoreCatTimeID ScoreCatTime ScoreCatCompletedID ScoreCatCompleted ScoreCatRankingID ScoreCatRanking ScoreRank Verification Method
1 100.00 % 30:42.000 Richard Ureta 08/24/2004 8 2 1842000 0 0 0 0 0 3 Fastest Time 0 0 Video 40941 35669

1

Holy shit, there's a MAPPY champion in this movie! That's like being Official President of the Family Circus Fan Club.

Hahaha I totally forgot that I have Mappy on a Namco comp. I think I've played it on there exactly once.

mappy champ is a bro

I missed the boat on this, it is no longer in the theater here :(

Yeah, I'll have to wait for the DVD too.

So the new episode of South Park is clearly meant to be a sort of homage to this film, but instead comes off as a sort of half-hearted poop-is-funny rip-off.
Discus.

Results 1 - 10 of about 10,700 for billy mitchell asshole. (0.21 seconds)

at least 8,500 of those are me, though

Some new perspectives:
http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/000574.html
http://www.twingalaxies.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=86
http://www.thetanooki.com/2008/01/29/billy-mitchell-the-man-behind-the-mullet/

and this: http://spyhunter007.com/steve_wiebe_donkey_kong_timeline.htm
in some ways, the fact that this has created a tempest in a teapot sort of underscores the obsessive geek nature of everyone involved, no matter how peripherally.

Dude in the first link just sounds way jealous.

Watched this last night. It was pretty good, but I guess I was mildly disappointed. How many times did they play "You're The Best"? Like twelve? Also, enough with the line graph animation. They used it like a million billion times.

this movie ruled

the crazy thing about billy mitchell is he's like the only alpha male in the entire retrogaming subculture so he can just completely dominate and cow everyone else involved.

this was on my top ten of the year

http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/the_king_of_kong_continued

MR. AWESOME

AVC: What if I sent you a copy of the movie, and you watched it and then we could chat after that? And you could directly address some things…

BM: You can't send me a copy of the movie. Number one, it's not out on DVD [Editor's note: This interview was conducted before the film's recent DVD release.], so what you got, you can't send to me. I could have gotten it a long time ago illegally. And I'm not gonna do that. But I think you're gonna have a hard time believing the fact that I kinda know everything about the movie, since every day I open my computer and reviews are forwarded to me, including video clips and all that. Plus, I got a good memory.

Good lord, this guy is really a bulldog:
http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/000580.html

jesus, did you read that whole thing? what a blowhard.

I guess he did the BBS documentary. Huh. I think I exchanged a few emails with him many years ago when he was putting that thing together.

http://www.digitpress.com/images/cge2k4/alumni/don_img_0621.jpg
Billy and Steve - together!

debunkness: http://www.twingalaxies.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=86

multiple xposts but i think i used to have a damned good score relative to the twin galaxies range @ gameboy tetris too!

anyway mostly this makes me want to somehow be recognized for how hard i would wreck anyone at nhl '94 for sega. we used to play it as a drinking game in lol college

Is Billy wearing eyeliner? Is he wearing teethliner??

If he never washed, and he shaved, he would look like Nick Cave (but with patriotic ties).

some of wiebe's meathead friends in WA were awesome. "i told him not to get chumpitized and to go out east"

Wow, I just realize Billy Mitchell has a bottle of his own hot sauce on the podium. I understand the urge to show everyone your hot sauce, but c'mon - leave it in the cabinet.

Billy's passion for hot sauce is actually his most endearing characteristic, to me.

Billy should play the bad guy in the new Tron film, just to stir shit up.

it would be awesome if he took little sips of hot sauce in between sentences

this movie was so good

http://www.thebbps.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/8bit/Iam8bit-08-10.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Juror8/Iam8bit-08-10.jpg

i prefer the 80's version of Mitchell

Did anyone see the South Park about whether Bono or Stan's dad had taken the biggest crap? Was this supposed to be a play on King of Kong?

I thought it was just a big piss take of Bono

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Crap

well i'll be damned

So the new episode of South Park is clearly meant to be a sort of homage to this film, but instead comes off as a sort of half-hearted poop-is-funny rip-off.
Discus.

-- forksclovetofu, Friday, October 12, 2007 7:53 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Link

ah sorry, you should have been more descriptive with the episode - but I kinda agree with you if that helps.

That was the last episode of South Park I watched; quality seems to have finally fallen off.

http://laweekly.blogs.com/joshuah_bearman/files/harpers_billy_mitchell.pdf

just watched this for the first time tonight, and i loved loved loved it. just read upthread that billy re-broke the record? fuck that.

It is a great and entertaining movie, but there do seem to be a lot of falsehoods in it in order to make the plot more cinematic, by many accounts.

yeah, and unfortunately ever since i found that out it's sorta ruined it for me.

Me too.

Just watched this for the first time a couple of nights ago. Tremendously entertaining. I wonder how many of those guys are aspies.

A girl I work with made herself a FUCK BILLY MITCHELL tshirt. I tried to steal it but it is too tiny for my gigantic shoulders.

Watched Chasing Ghosts last night. It makes Walter Day seem even creepier than he does in Kong.

There's one point where he bags up his referee shirt and sends it to the Smithsonian for its "gaming collection", followed by a caption that the Smithsonian doesn't have a "gaming collection".

lolllll

and then there's the whole Robert Mruczek part! that guy could be a long-lost Crumb brother.

Watching Chasing Ghosts right now, proof that King of Kong is 1000x better without whining crying-ass Steve Wiebe. This 1982 summit is as close as we'll ever get to a real life McPoyle family reunion.

lol that guy with his 'art' collection

got the dvd of kong and the extras are pretty good.

in other news, finally completed screen 1 of donkey kong today. this game is HARD

http://www.justin.tv/g4tv_wiebecam

OMG THANKIG U

hahaha whaaat is that jumping thing he's doing!!!

NOOOOO

lol, did he die already?

it's all over

rip mario

he started playing at 11 ET nad just died around 1:15. i forget what the record is but he had like 920k

record is apparently 1,050,200 and i think wiebe is gonna try again

He's back!

....aaand he's back

ha xpost

ABORT!! ABORT!!

fireball death

lol he touches his nose when he completes a level. i think we all do that.

oh, he's not doing it now. i think he doesn't care anymore

2:40kevyn21:just wanna let you all know theres a donkey kong kill screen in about 2 hours if anyones interested.

lol

not me btw

dead again

2 lives left :(

man, shit is intense

shit, down to last life, about 600k

I went to the place where the King of Kong was filmed http://www.classicarcademuseum.org/ last summer. It's amazing!!

way to go, E, you come in and jinx it!!

damn, but that was impressive.

oh wait shit, what happened? sorry. :-(

haha he lost his last man with about 650k. i think he's going to try again later tho

haha it's funny how ordinary certain situations are for him...so many times i screamed at the screen OH NO U IDIOT NOOO but he got out of it like it was nothing

intense, he seems to struggle with the rivet screens doesn't he

wtf, someone just posted an ilx link on the chat feed ?!

huh?

9:23 [Justin.tv bot] vaughn:-> pwnurmom -> Google search results for "your mama smokes crack rock" | Does anyone remember the early 90's anti-crack song. . . ( The UK Music Press: Has It Ever Been Good?...

and we're off again...

lol the cameras have cut out

haha it's funny how ordinary certain situations are for him...so many times i screamed at the screen OH NO U IDIOT NOOO but he got out of it like it was nothing

Yes! He's really a joy to watch. The thing that bugged me a bit about the film was the fact there wasn't actually much footage of him just playing, so this is great.

look's like he's started yet again, for the fourth time, as there was a convenient power cut when he was having a great third game.

this guy just has no luck does he

He keeps doing this thing where a barrel will be rolling left to right, and he'll do a BACKWARDS left to right jump, and land it. It's amazing!

yeah this game is brutal, and he's making it look like any old toff could get past even the first screen - but they ruddy can't!

life gone, but at just under 300000 points that was pretty awesome.

this is pretty awesome.
Those moonwalk jumps are crazy.

seriously? i saw that death coming a mile away

Ah shite. That really looked like a tiredness error, so it's maybe all over for today.

i think autopilot has kicked in

but this might not be enough to enable all the scoring tricks to get a high score tho.

10,000 viewers now!

shit, ive gotta leave in five minutes

He's over 900K!

argh, my stream keeps locking up!

920!

refreshing fixes it, this is amazing stuff

love that glitch with the fireballs all trapped

Anyone been counting screens? The kill comes at 117, don't know how many more he's got.

people on the chat (who I trust more than ANYONE) say that he can't beat the top score now matter what he does, not enough levels left.

Hope he makes it - the web stream is choking now at 10,700 viewers (though it'll drop thousands randomly) and the score at 970k, but I guess he'll try again tomorrow if he doesn't make it.

Aw shit, there it is!

Damn, 989k, and he still had an extra life left!

aw that's a shame. terrific entertainment though.

also, fair play to him playing this in front of so many people. I wonder if he knew at any point that 10,000 people were viewing on line.

:((

saw this last night and thought it was good.

biggest douche in this movie is easily Brian Kuh

w00t:
http://www.asylum.com/2010/03/10/asylum-salutes-hank-chien-the-new-king-of-kong-billy-mitchell-steve-wiebe-twin-galaxies/

He also thinks there is a limit to what humans can achieve in the game.

so theres no telling what mitchell can do

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.asylum.com/media/2010/03/immy.jpg
this picture=priceless

"Billy is sort of retired, and I've never met the man, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did something surprising."

Steve Wiebe once again regained the world record in September 2010, with a score of 1,064,500

LET'S GO

i think christmas is gonna be aaaaalright

http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/194369-regular-show-representing-the-retro-gamer/RegularShow-BillyMitchell-620x.jpg

i need to watch that show more often.

you need to watch every episode of that show ever made (except for the one where margaret and rigby get mordechai super jealous which is not good but it is, thus far, the only not good episode yet)

What the hell show is that?

REGULAR SHOW

currently among the best shows on television
start here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfmy8L4eYPw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LrXYqtlbzM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve45tBg3FZo

this makes a great double-feature with "chasing ghosts", both involve roughly the same characters, except "ghosts" is a lot creepier and more depressing; it doesn't really do these guys any favors. some rough words for our DK champ - "FUCK Billy Mitchell" and "we used to call him Silly Bitchell"...loved it. Yeah Mitchell is kind of a dick but he's kind of a badass which makes this world so much more endearing

King of Kong is a lot more fun (even my mom liked it!) and arguably a "better" movie, but I've probably watched Chasing Ghosts twice as many times by this point; there are just so many more details to soak up. also it has the scene with Robert Mruczek's "art" collection, i.e. the best scene in either one.

yeah I totally called that one as he was opening it..."it's gotta be porn, right?"

They're both great movies but King of Kong loses a few points since parts of it have kind of been exposed as fabrications; if you read the interviews with Billy Mitchell he seems to be a lot more of a complex person than he appears in the film, and they do intentionally omit several things to make it tell a better story; whereas Chasing Ghosts has the aura of "you really couldn't make this up"

aww, 'chasing ghosts' not available on netflix

btw: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/03/11/hank-chien-destroyed-his-own-donkey-kong-record.aspx

yeah I totally called that one as he was opening it..."it's gotta be porn, right?"

thanks a lot for this, now I don't have to wonder how the scene develops when I get to see the movie

enjoy, it's amazing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iteB7wQckh4

that's Barcade in the first part iirc.

"basically the guy experienced hallucinations. So right now this is just icing on the cake right now. I've done it before so it's no challenge to me.

aw, i got turned off when he got into dumbfuck fantasy artporn

Saw Chasing Ghosts last night - loved it. Dude spending £300k on fantasy porn was the most WTF of many WTF moments. What was the score (pun!) withe the guy with the xmas stockings up all year round? Was he for real mentally ill? (as opposed to the others, but you know . . . )

Got King of Kong to watch tonight.

thanks a lot for this, now I don't have to wonder how the scene develops when I get to see the movie

you probably shouldn't be reading threads about a movie if spoilers like "this guy has a porn collection" bother you that much, plus this is a documentary so wtf

Watched King of Kong - less good than chasing ghosts, imo. But maybe that's more CG being awesome, than KoK being poor.

Poking around the Twin Galaxies website, I found this lengthy set of posts going into great detail just how much KoK omitted from the documentary to make a good story. The big one was how Billy Mitchell's taped high million-point score was only a high score for two days after fantasy porn dude decided that allowing it in wasn't quite playing by the game. This was one of the big dramatic turns in the doc, and if it turns out that the story wasn't quite how it appeared then it kinda undermines the fun of the whole film, imo. Course, it's one word against another, but it gets past my bullshit filter.

In related news, poking around the scoreboard, it turns out there's no world record been posted for Civilization II on PS! I'm not even very good at Civ but I fancy being a world record holder. I might book a long weekend off work and tape myself setting a world record. How cool would that be!

What the hell show is that?

― Buff Orpington (Abbbottt), Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:09 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

Abbott you should totally watch Regular Show!

I should probably see this King of Kong movie.

ha you should

Oh yeh, and thanks to this thread for introducing em to the Regular Show, that thing's awesome. 'Ello Gov'nor!

yah ade, you will love k of k

good luck with the civ 2 run. sounds dangerous

If you all lived here I would take you to Funspot. It's, well, really fun. Also = amazing people watching possibilities.

All the champions have their pictures on the wall like a hall of fame type thing and they have the oldest arcade game ever there.

you live near Funspot??!? so jealous

It's about a two hour drive but doable for a day excursion. One of my friends does a big trip every year for his birthday.

AND there's a place down the road from it that has an all you can eat ice cream sundae bar! :-O

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Funspotsign.JPG/450px-Funspotsign.JPG

!!!

Civ 2 run shouldn't be too hard. I'm sure I can bomb through a playthrough in around 12 hours, and you're allowed 15 minutes break every 3 hours, none of this freon-spraying nonsense.

... not sure if i should google 'freon-spraying' ...

the freon spraying thing was a myth; I had to research it for work a couple of months ago and someone tracked down Vollandt and asked him and he said no (and the baby looked at me). I still choose to believe it's true and he's just trying to cover up his shameful nerdy past.

Just founf the Billy Mitchell fan club on facebook, it has six members and Steve Sanders does the admin! Major Lols.

founf = found

soon it will have 7 members.

nah i can't find it so i just joined one with a few thousand members. lots of milquetoast losers praising Weeb.

I joined! Just type in the Billy Mitchell fan club in search and it should send you to the right page.

Billy Mitchell fan club on facebook is up to 7 members now. Is there anyone else I wonder in the public eye who is disliked so much that they don't attract attention. Perhaps this is a question for a new thread hmmmm?

Billy Mitchell's Donkey Kong video footage turned out to have been played on MAME with several splices.

http://donkeykongforum.com/index.php?topic=2055.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=234Y76_3YPE

As DKF's (currently) sole high score moderator, I've taken my responsibilities very seriously.

I love his Walker Texas Ranger as Jedi Master sartorial vibe

o shit!

fuck billy mitchell!

Yes following this has been gratifying

lol, that son of a bitch

holy shitballs

After over 35 years of competitive gaming fame, Billy Mitchell has been banned from Twin Galaxies and had his scores struck from the record books, as two 2010 Donkey Kong scores were ruled not to have come from real arcade hardware: https://t.co/hpLPpbuYoT

— Retro Gamer (@RetroGamer_Mag) April 12, 2018

Pretty messed up. I've met Mitchell a couple times at retro gaming conventions, seemed nice and happy to be there and meet people. More than anything, I admired him for his wing business and sartorial eccentricities. It's sad that it was all built on lies.

so why didn't he just submit these as emulated ?

Well there’s chances of save states and game hacks that subtley produce more favorable results when using an emulator.

That is to say people trust original hardware submissions more. Emulator submissions will always be looked down upon as not being equivalent to the real thing so most people just avoid them.

plus I thought the tape was suspected of being spliced together from (presumably) dozens of runs. idk if they've proved it yet though

of course, that's not really the way life works in general

his gameplay footage gets way too "lucky". when there are random points awarded, he never gets the lowest ones. (the stuff about audio breaks is not true -- savestates make splices invisible.)

Omnigamer's Power Point Slides

The luck slide #14 is interesting but I don't suspect his scores were really that far off from normal. Omnigamer also didn't call it a smoking gun or anything in the presentaion video.

Also in slide #22 he states Myths going around. The idea that video splicing occurred is one of them since no credible evidence has ever been found.

but yeah.. save state splicing can be a thing etc...