Uncharted: Drake's Fortune

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No thread for this game? It's not revolutionary (your basic Tomb Raider scenario of alternating enemies and puzzles), but it's well-done.

calstars, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I like it, and i was never really a fan of tomb raider (tbf that was because of its control mechanism)

the shooting can get a bit samey but overall, yeah one of the better titles around.

Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, 16 March 2009 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link

The last third (or whenever the twist starts) and the final boss fight are horrible. Also didn't care for the shooting, which there was far too much of as well.

Jeff LeVine, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

i enjoyed this game. shooting was quite fine imo, the cover system was pretty tight - way better than gta iv

s1ocki, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

i don't post on ILG. but. uncharted 2. holy shit.

President Emeritus, Fancy Chord Club (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, 13 September 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

1) do tell

2) why DONT you post here u should

mountain G.O.A.T. (s1ocki), Sunday, 13 September 2009 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link

The e3 video was fucking ridiculous. SO PURTY

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Sunday, 13 September 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I just can't get over the setting : / I hated the style in tomb raider, I hate it in uncharted

anyway the new one has a 98 average on metacritic after quite a lot of reviews o_O

cozwn, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

EG gave it 10 today

cozwn, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Haven't tried deathmatch yet because my gamepad skills are weak, but co-op is great- superfast matchmaking, clear objectives, levels (well, level singular at this point) designed properly around multiple players, the whole shebang. If anyone wants to hit me up I'm McClinticSphere.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Friday, 2 October 2009 04:32 (fourteen years ago) link

hey, good game.

GM, Saturday, 3 October 2009 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll add you, McClintic.

This game is great! I wasn't sure the cover shooting system would work well in multiplayer but, if anything, it helps turn deathmatch into a movie-like experience. Close calls with snipers, ambushes, assaults, sneaking around, chaingunning madness, etc. Most times I play there are several moments that make me think, man, that was straight out of a good Indiana Jones-style movie.

throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Monday, 5 October 2009 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Also that sounds like I'm creaming myself for this game (which I kind of am). Let's hope 1-player is good too.

throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Monday, 5 October 2009 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh my god, the jetski section of the first game sucks so many balls

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link

SO THIS GAME RIGHT HERE

"I have seen bloodstains on the Pac Man joystick" (jamescobo), Thursday, 15 October 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

OR MORE ACCURATELY ITS SEQUEL

"I have seen bloodstains on the Pac Man joystick" (jamescobo), Thursday, 15 October 2009 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i am sorry, i cannot see the sequel past the wall of testicles clamoring for access to the jetski level

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Thursday, 15 October 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

you are missing out on the most awesome tutorial sequence in history

"I have seen bloodstains on the Pac Man joystick" (jamescobo), Thursday, 15 October 2009 00:38 (fourteen years ago) link

DEMON'S SOULS LOOKS BETTER THAN LARA C HD SHAME ON U

coz (webinar), Thursday, 15 October 2009 09:02 (fourteen years ago) link

ok thinking of getting this, as i enjoyed the first one more than i thought i would. so give me some quick fire reasons why this is a decent game.

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Thursday, 15 October 2009 11:17 (fourteen years ago) link

23 10/10 reviews on metacritic and a 96 average after 62 reviews is GTAIV level ridic

coz (webinar), Thursday, 15 October 2009 11:31 (fourteen years ago) link

PROS
- is purty
- SETPIECES
- killing a bunch of d3wdz
- multiplayer is awes
- helper characters used insanely well so far
- playing like a fearless badass is encouraged by both the level design
- occasionally legitimately funny ("There's a man below you! There's a man below you!")
- no section comparable to the shitass jetski bit from part 1 so far

CONS
- reminds me a lot of MGS games in that it's kind of disconcerting how it pulls you out of the gameplay segments and thrusts you into the plot-advancing cutscenes, although I mostly take this as a referendum on how much fun the gameplay is
- the eyes are some hardcore uncanny valley ish

"I have seen bloodstains on the Pac Man joystick" (jamescobo), Thursday, 15 October 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

DEMON'S SOULS LOOKS BETTER THAN LARA C HD SHAME ON U

u know I gots both homie

"I have seen bloodstains on the Pac Man joystick" (jamescobo), Thursday, 15 October 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

From gameplay videos, this looks like you have to mow down an entire army again. doesn't seem like my type of game. i like my action/adventure games with more adventure and less action.

abanana, Friday, 16 October 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

you will be missing out on possibly the best 3d platforming this side of Galaxy, though. it's not just that the platforming is particularly clever (it's really just a more grounded-in-reality version of the Assassin's Creed way of doing things), but rather that it's all in service of forcing you to play like a badass action hero.

okamadablobisney (jamescobo), Friday, 16 October 2009 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

okay holy shit @ the part w/ the guy who doesn't speak English

okamadablobisney (jamescobo), Saturday, 17 October 2009 03:11 (fourteen years ago) link

you've never seen a guy who doesn't speak english before?!

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 October 2009 07:04 (fourteen years ago) link

no, never! tell me more about these mythical peoples and their indecipherable gruntings.

just beat the single-player on Normal. the main guy is an enormous pain in the ass; I had to fight him like 10 times and kept dying really shitty deaths. I am pleased to report, however, that there is definitely no Jetski-equivalent section in this game if that's really all that's holding you back from checking it out.

imo it's a very strong GOTY candidate, although I expect NSMBWii to end up taking that particular title.

okamadablobisney (jamescobo), Sunday, 18 October 2009 02:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Nah, it's not holding me back- I've already picked up a copy, since the multiplayer demo and great reviews were enough to convince me. I'm just finally knuckling down and finishing the first one.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Sunday, 18 October 2009 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link

holy moses this is like the best-looking game ever.

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Saturday, 24 October 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

really fun too!!

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Saturday, 24 October 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I watched a level at my pal's house and it has me strongly considering getting a PS3.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 24 October 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

it's kind of great how they've made it atmospheric and awesome-looking w/o going all brown and grey... nice to see some bright colours and "blue skies" and stuff.

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Saturday, 24 October 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

ok just watching the game is fun the graphics are so incredible its like a movie

FACK, Sunday, 25 October 2009 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I saw a dude in the multiplayer the other day with a big red Naughty Dog logo by his player name - wtf is with that? is he the REAL NATHAN DRAKE?

throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 00:58 (fourteen years ago) link

lovin' the campaign.

how's multi? haven't even tried it yet. there's a co-op mode right?

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link

awesome-looking w/o going all brown and grey... nice to see some bright colours and "blue skies" and stuff.

YES YES YES !!!!

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 09:11 (fourteen years ago) link

s1ocki - I know you liked the first one, so do you feel like reviewers seem to be saying, that the game is much improved over the first one in terms of gameplay? Is the shooting better (maybe a little less of it + less bullet sponge enemies)? Other than the twist and the quicktime ending of the first game, what I didn't enjoy there were the kill boxes with just too many enemies you had to deal with for such a (to me) average shooting mechanic. Loved the original's platforming, though maybe could have used a few better (not absurdly simple) puzzles.

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 29 October 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't believe you are doubting whether to get this or not. it's a KILLER APP, haven't you heard?!

cutty, Thursday, 29 October 2009 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link

My friend says that the gameplay is much improved.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 29 October 2009 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I wanna believe (buy two games get one free @ Best Buy through the weekend)

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 29 October 2009 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

jeff as a connoisseur i don't think you have any choice but to get this game.

but yeah, i DO think the gameplay is improved. there's still a lot of shooting from cover, but it feels looser and less like you're just picking off billions of guys.

it looks incredible, and it's just a shitload of FUN the way the story progresses from level to level, you just feel like you're swept up in a serial-type adventure (well, an indiana jones ripoff, but thats ok). they do a good job of varying the gameplay enough to keep at least me interested, and the environments are pretty awesome. i really can't imagine anyone not enjoying this game a heck of a lot.

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 29 October 2009 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not getting the stealth aspect of this game. just gotten to the jungle, and there are parts where the NPCs are telling you to be quiet and not be seen, but there doesn't really seem to be any alternative to start firing your gun?

cutty, Thursday, 29 October 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

sneak up behind a dude and press []

stealth kill

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 29 October 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

especially fun if you're hanging from something high and you do it - you toss 'em off the building

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 29 October 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

but besides clinging to an object with O button, there is no way to "sneak" besides walking slow, right?

cutty, Thursday, 29 October 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

ya.

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 29 October 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

which is fine with me, i like that this game doesn't have a dedicated button for every action.

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 29 October 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

not only is it a KILLER APP but it's a WATERSHED GAME children will ask WHERE WERE U WHEN UC2 DROPPED do u really want ur answer to be I was swearing at dudes abt DJ HERO?

coz (webinar), Thursday, 29 October 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway I just learned I got my new job so I'm buying myself a PS3 w/UC2 w/my first paycheck

coz (webinar), Thursday, 29 October 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

tru oratory

I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 October 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

it really amuses me that this game is called uncharted: drake's fortune. when i see my bf playing it i say "is this SOCOM" and hell say "no its uncharted: drakes fortune". the way he says it u can here the colon btw. then ill leave the room.

legit 40 (Lamp), Thursday, 29 October 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

the first one is called uncharted: drake's fortune

cutty, Thursday, 29 October 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

this one is uncharted 2 colon among thieves

cutty, Thursday, 29 October 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

ummmm i was talking about the first one. i realize u guyz are talking about uncharted 2: killer app i was just talking to myself

legit 40 (Lamp), Thursday, 29 October 2009 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link

also theres a ps3 commercial where the dudes gf thinks that uncharted 2: big stubble in little china is a movie and not a game and i saw it it reminded me doing the SOCOM thing, before, with the first one

legit 40 (Lamp), Thursday, 29 October 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh that commercial helped sell me on the system as my girl likes to watch certain games like they're movies anyway
damn apt marketing

I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 October 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

czn - I'm not sure you deserve a ps3 after you admitted you don't care for Wipeout! Congrats on the job.

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 29 October 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

cozwn wrote this on thread Mario was a hero to most but he never meant shit to me on board I Love Games on Aug 26, 2009

I don't think wipeout is that good tho

NEVER FORGET

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 29 October 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

wipeout 2097 til I die

coz (webinar), Thursday, 29 October 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

okay, if you put it like that, all is forgiven. I thought you meant the whole series. First wipeout is indeed unplayable shit.

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 29 October 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Uncharted 2 is a clear front-runner for game of the year, I think, but I have more to play.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 2 November 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I am trying to get through Uncharted 1 to get to the gooey sweetness that is the sequel, but it's not making it easy. I just hit another jetski level, where someone actually thought to themselves "You know what's fun? Piloting a low-powered watercraft upriver against rapids, stopping dead in the water every thirty seconds to shoot instant-death barrels, and fighting enemies with preternaturally accurate aim. Oh, and you know how we gave the player an infinite-ammo grenade launcher the first time? Fuck that, let's try giving him a pistol. That'll teach him to complain. On ILX. Three years in the future."

HOW DID THEY KNOW

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Sunday, 15 November 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link

oh lord, the laser sights

THE LASER SIGHTS

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Sunday, 15 November 2009 04:03 (fourteen years ago) link

dude why not just go straight to #2

it's not like the godfather movies

Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Sunday, 15 November 2009 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link

You don't understand, I have to. It is a sick compulsion. Plus I'm under the delusion that I'm somehow improving my skill at aiming with a joypad so I won't totally embarrass myself in multiplayer.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Sunday, 15 November 2009 04:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, serious WTFs at the plot twist, where they decide to stop ripping off <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0190838/";>this</a> and <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082971/";>this</a> and start ripping off <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0412704/";>this</a> and <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087015/";>this</a>. (spoilers obviously)

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Sunday, 15 November 2009 08:19 (fourteen years ago) link

oh god dammit bbcode

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Sunday, 15 November 2009 08:19 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Sunday, 15 November 2009 09:06 (fourteen years ago) link

bbcode and your links don't even work

cutty, Sunday, 15 November 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, for some reason the quotes in my html got put into the links.

this and this to this and this

There, hopefully that'll work

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Sunday, 15 November 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

that took me to a porn spam site... wtf

Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Sunday, 15 November 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Telephone - the good news is that you're very close to the end of the game, but the bad news is that the end is the most mishandled section of the game

Jeff LeVine, Sunday, 15 November 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I've already gotten tired of the RARGH BOOGIDY BOOGIDY shit in the German bunker, though I did like how the only weapons available are WWII-era German submachine guns. REALISMS!

s1ocki- Assuming you're not just fucking with me, the revised links or the original botched html ones? I double-checked, they should all point properly to IMDB...

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Sunday, 15 November 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah the end is crap.

cutty, Sunday, 15 November 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

end is the worst part of the second game, but how is the worst part of U1 anything other than the second jetski bit?

The Enemy (jamescobo), Monday, 16 November 2009 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

No kidding, if the ending of the game somehow manages to be worse than the upriver level I'm breaking the fucking disc in half.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Monday, 16 November 2009 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link

...wow, I am sweary today, aren't I. Sorry about that, I'm trying to quit caffeine and it is doing awful, awful things to me.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Monday, 16 November 2009 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Uncharted 2 is so awesome.

windy = white, carl = black (polyphonic), Monday, 16 November 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Finished UC2 today and the ending was better than the first but still disappointing but that is in part due to the awesomeness that comes before it. The game does start slowly but from chapter 5 to chapter 22 everything about it is perfect, especially 'Desperate Times' and 'Locomotion', it's a ridiculous amount of fun and the pacing is almost perfect. I was kinda bummed that Sully wasn't in the game more though, love that guy but all the characters are pretty great which just sucks you in more.

Good interview here with the developers.

same dog, different leg action (Mr Raif), Monday, 16 November 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i just didnt understand why they end the game with baddies who are basically world of warcraft characters

Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Monday, 16 November 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

HEY

SPOILERS

but uh there are SPOILERS here too

i'm not done with the game yet but it was kind of heartbreaking and frustrating in that part where you wake up in the tibetan village and you follow dude around past all these happy kids playing, bright colorful houses, etc. and you just fucking know that there's going to have to be another level where you go back through and everything's all blown up and gray and terrible and there are tons of bad guys. i kept hoping they would defy this expectation but knew it was going to happen and it kind of pissed me off.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:30 (fourteen years ago) link

it's just a video game :/

cutty, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I am about halfway through that level.

On the one hand, I agree. On the other hand, it is an awesome terrain for a gunfight.

windy = white, carl = black (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:37 (fourteen years ago) link

pros and cons of having your village destroyed

Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

JEFF DID U FKN BUY THIS GAME YET

WHY ARE U BEING SO UNGRATEFUL FOR WHAT THE GREAT GOD PLAYSTATION GAVE US

cozwn, Thursday, 31 December 2009 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/eurogamers-game-of-the-year-2009

cozwn, Thursday, 31 December 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

not only did i not get this game for christmas/channukah but i got no fucking games at all despite giving some games to others

and Abdulmutallab thought he had a disappointing holiday

antexit, Thursday, 31 December 2009 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

uncharted 2 is pretty good eh? finally got around to it and for some reason i was kinda cynical about it, as much as i had enjoyed the first one, but this is really great. they have made such a virtue of scripted events. the whole thing is so seamless and there have only been rare occasions when the gameplay has been less than totally engaging. i approve of this game.

aarrissi-a-roni, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8454/uc2jp1.jpg
Didn't know Bruce Willis had made it into this game!

Nhex, Sunday, 14 March 2010 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I know everybody is probably tired hearing superlatives abt this game by now but...

it is totally wtfawesome

cozen, Saturday, 20 March 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

holy moses this is like the best-looking game ever.
― banned, on the run (s1ocki), Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:12 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

srsly... at first I was all 'I bought a PS3 for this?!' but then I started walking through the snow and I was like 'justified!!'

cozen, Monday, 22 March 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm near the end now (thought I'd play through on hard first) and I've been consistently blown away throughout not just by the set-pieces but by the platforming, the writing, the graphics and the actual performance of the engine... the frame rate is so consistent even when there's lots going on. naughty dog did a great job here

the platforming altho v.linear is just in perfect service of making you feel like a total badass who can get anywhere nevermind how difficult and it mixes it up enough with little realtime cutscenes of breaking scenery so it doesn't really get boring

surprised how charming the characters actually are too; I was apprehensive that the dialogue was going to be too quip-y and wiseass-y but - although everyone is kind of a smartass - it's not overly annoying. cute without being irritating

tensin is a badass

cozen, Monday, 22 March 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

tensin is a badass

fuck yeah. loved that guy.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Monday, 22 March 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

nearly finished too, cosign everything cozen said. best game i've played on PS3 by quite some distance.

aztec gamera (zappi), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

anyone actually put any time in the MP on this?

etrian odysseus (cozen), Thursday, 15 April 2010 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Admittedly, it's nowhere near as bad (and when it works is funny and exhilarating and action-movie-y), but I think "Cat and Mouse" is this game's jetski level. WAY too much instant death, and now that I'm at the segment where I'm supposed to destroy the tank, the fuckers with rocket launchers keep dropping them OFF THE GODDAMN ROOFS. INTO THE STREET. WHERE THE TANK IS.

a black white asian pine ghost who is fake (Telephone thing), Sunday, 9 May 2010 03:35 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Thinking of getting UDF2, because I really quite liked the first one. Is the sequel much of the same?

Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 15 July 2010 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link

only much much better

coldfrap - foam mountain (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 July 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

seriously. if u liked 1 and u have a ps3... u MUST get this game

coldfrap - foam mountain (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 July 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i played the first scene from part 1 about a year ago and it felt really clunky.. i was supposed to be shooting things from a boat but i just kept getting housed

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 July 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't start really loving UC1 until after Sully gets shot (not that Sully didn't own, but that's just where the game started kicking much ass).

UC2 is, as described elsewhere, unfuckwithable though. somewhat overrated but only because everyone who plays it has so much goddamn fun that they gloss over all the less-than-perfect stuff. the end boss can eat many dicks though.

TOM SHITTYBISSELL (jamescobo), Thursday, 15 July 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

So, so much better. In every possible way. I got the impression Naughty Dog had been playing a lot of Valve games, since a lot of the game's approach (pacing, setpieces, competent NPC companion) is straight from the Half-Life 2 school of design.

a black white asian pine ghost who is fake (Telephone thing), Friday, 16 July 2010 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link

ya UC2 is amazing until it turns into world of warcraft at the end

coldfrap - foam mountain (s1ocki), Friday, 16 July 2010 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks chums, you've convinced me

Guru Meditation (Ste), Friday, 16 July 2010 08:28 (thirteen years ago) link

so beautiful too

kim jong-ill (cozen), Friday, 16 July 2010 08:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i didn't think the end boss was that bad.

my cock is a spiral ham (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 17 July 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

part 2 is pretty freakin great huh

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

you are missing out on the most awesome tutorial sequence in history

yes

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

i play MGS games basically afraid to fuck up, with my butt-cheeks clenched together, waiting like 4 or 5 minutes to finally pounce then getting killed then waiting for SNAAAAAKE then going back. but this game encourages you to just be a kind of fearless badass. and if you do fuck up, you get put back on track IMMEDIATELY. i can't stress how awesome that is. i can't remember having ever seen a loading graphic other than at the very beginning of the game.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah for sure

it is pure pleasure

the colours~

george pimpton (s1ocki), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

played U2 and enjoyed it, so went back to the first game recently, and found it to be very repetitive and started getting v. bored - walk in area, shoot guys in head, walk on a bit, "he's over here", shoot guys in head, etc etc.

zappi, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i never indulged in this, played it a mates and wasn't impressed. didn't like the sneaking around stuff, didn't work for me.

F-Unit (Ste), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 08:57 (thirteen years ago) link

well then just play it at your own place!

george pimpton (s1ocki), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i've gotten to the meat of this game now and it's just ridiculously, ridiculously fun

i'm still terrible at throwing grenades but i'm terrible at throwing grenades in every game that has them; it's a mental block of some kind

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

you should practice IRL

george pimpton (s1ocki), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha I tried to play this game over from the beginning at the next hardest setting and I got frustrated in the jungle battle where you first get grenades and all the soldiers are attacking.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Uncharted 3 finally officially announced then

groovypanda, Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

This was an interesting read, not sure if this belongs here or on the Google Sketchup thread -

The art and design of Uncharted 2

nate woolls, Friday, 18 February 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

playing the second one now, haven't played the first. think it's good fun and looks great.

should probably be playing it on harder rather than normal as it's a tad easy. otoh i am fairly inaccurate with my shooting, so maybe not.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

i feel kind of dumm for having gotten basically to the end of this game and then pussing out in the jungle scene where you're attacked by like EIGHT of those mega-hard beasts all at once. i had enough trouble just killing like two of them.

possibly i sucked so bad because i never, ever got good at "run and gun". never had to use it. i suspect this is the one place where it's mandatory. anyway i don't think i'm ever going back since i peeked at a walkthrough and it looks like there's maybe 5 minutes of story left after that.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 09:29 (thirteen years ago) link

haha, 8, daaaaaaamn.

tending tropics (jim in glasgow), Friday, 6 May 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

this game is siiiiick. i'm about 3/4ths of the way through. so fun! the part with the tank drove me nuts, though.

playing this i keep thinking, "i wish this is what the last indiana jones movie had been like"

in no way more ancient than fucking space (latebloomer), Saturday, 4 June 2011 02:08 (twelve years ago) link

i'm referring t uncharted 2, btw. have not played the original.

in no way more ancient than fucking space (latebloomer), Saturday, 4 June 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

can i just say i started 3 last night and i'm a bit underwhelmed - after the fuckin awesome train crash opening of part 2, starting the game with a generic pub brawl is pretty lame. and then the billionth sewer level i've ever seen. this better get better. and seriously eff every reviewer who failed to mention this, god, video game reviewers are such fucking hacks

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

the honest guys (tom chick @ honest gamers, eurogamer) kinda all panned this. ign loved it, tho!

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

oh yeah, av club also panned it

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

have to say, it don't look good imho

Summer Slam! (Ste), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

well av club gave it a C, not really a pan but probably more negative than expected

i still want it

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

a C for an AAA title like this is effectively a pan imho.

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

I went on the recommendation of wired, which usually seems to be more honest, and totally loving 2

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

av club complained about the controls mainly, saying they weren't improved from uncharted 2. the controls in 2 weren't as good as they could have been but they didn't impede my enjoyment of the game, so i'm not worried.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

ya same here, though i dont LOVE em

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

i heard the story is kinda shitty this time around and that it's less a problem of controls and more a problem of agency. a lot of the game is like watching a movie.

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

then again, if you've already played one and two and enjoyed them you'll probably enjoy three too.

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ the comments on the harsh-but-fair-seeming honest gamer review

http://sht.tl/aSkn

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

*poor thing*

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

The series' single collectible currency of random relics that are left lying around the environments remains. However, there's very little sense of achievement or elation when you discover one, those feelings instead overwhelmed by a greater sense of irritation at the trinkets that you have no doubt missed. There is no reason to play the game twice beyond finding these.

^ truth bomb

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

thanks for letting me know about honest gamer; think i'll be reading them more often.

google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

I'm about halfway through this and it's good but not as good as 2. Verrrry repetitive in spots and the controls are rather creaky.

Production values are A+, but that goes without saying.

latebloomer, Thursday, 3 November 2011 02:06 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone want to trade for arkham city when I'm done

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 3 November 2011 05:09 (twelve years ago) link

I love simon parkin. I go to eurogamer for their reviews because they arent dickwhipped by the big publishers like ign, 1up, kotaku etc.

strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 3 November 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

uh oh even Penny Arcade doesn't like it

I mentioned Simon Parkin’s “savage” and “carnivorous” Uncharted 3 review in my last post, and having several hours of the game now under my belt, I suspect it is only a kind of tactical diplomacy that kept it at eight of ten.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/2011/11/04/working-conditions

Mordy, Friday, 4 November 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

so far so unimpressive, i have to say

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 4 November 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah this was a letdown :-(

The story seemed really half-assed and was mostly a rehash of the previous games, but with a much lesser sense of fun.

av club complained about the controls mainly, saying they weren't improved from uncharted 2.

The controls are almost exactly the same but to me felt less responsive than Uncharted 2, for some reason. I don't remember being nearly as frustrated with the previous game's controls.

latebloomer, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 07:12 (twelve years ago) link

yeh there is a patch coming to fix the controls

zappi, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 10:41 (twelve years ago) link

oh really? ya, i feel the same way. every time i try to do anything, drake seems to like do a cartwheel

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

i actualyl dont think the stories of any of these games are particularly good, but the character stuff is pretty likeable.

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

i also just find it harder and harder to make the kind of disconnect where like, tehre's a cut scene of a tense gun showdown with like two guys pointing guns at him, and then two seconds later drake is taking on 20 guys with grenade launchers

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

also the weird universe where everyone is like an incredibly gifted parkour genius

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

i mean i know suspension of disbelief, it just makes it harder for me to be drawn into any actual story

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

also Drake making with the jokey banter after gunning down 50 guys. The creepy psychopath.

zappi, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

every time i try to do anything, drake seems to like do a cartwheel

Honestly? This is the first comment that's made me want to play this game.

dense macabre (DJP), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

hahah. no it's just sometimes O is duck under cover, sometimes it's do a somersault, sometimes its drop to the next level, and it's not always obvious which. and getting onto ladders is annoying, half teh time you do a big dumb jump at the wall instead. and you have to get on a lot of ladders in this game.

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

nyt review was... what's more than "gushing"?

herbie mann on some gully shit (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

squirting

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

close. i need something a little bigger but not quite "jizzing"

herbie mann on some gully shit (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

what a letdown this game was. just a totally ordinary video game.

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 06:05 (twelve years ago) link

also the weird universe where everyone is like an incredibly gifted parkour genius

LOL! I watched my housemate play this last night and I could NOT get this out of my mind, he seemed able to grab onto anything, regardless of how awkward and too-large-for-gripping it was (hello, old wet pipes bigger than one's hand?) I kept getting told to shut up , haha.

And then the whole "AHA! We caught you!" *do some trick, all escape at last minute, go do something else find new clue* "AHA! We caught you again!" *yet another gunfight/last minute escape/slew of dead goons, run off* "AHA THIS TIME WE HAVE YOU NOW"

OH COME ON GUYS.

Trayce, Thursday, 10 November 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link

I've eaten a lot of mushrooms in my day but not one of them made me grow twice as large, or jump higher.

polyphonic, Thursday, 10 November 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link

ya but super mario is a totally abstracted universe, one of uncharted's biggest selling points is like REALISTIC CHARACTERS and environments. im actually fine with it, whatever makes the game more fun, but it is a bit silly to see ol' sully bounding from pillar to pillar

what really bugs me is the dumb puzzles and all the moments where you have to wait for your buddy to catch up so you can both turn a lever at the same time. that is not fun.

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 11 November 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link

^^^^^^

latebloomer, Friday, 11 November 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

Slocki otm - I was like "the thing is, this isnt a fantasy world, I cant suspend my disbelief this much" but then again, it was neccesary for the gameplay to be fun, so.

Targetting system is shitty as. Apparently a patch is coming out?

Trayce, Friday, 11 November 2011 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

I really wanted more opportunities to go about being stealthy and knocking out guards and bad guys, instead of having to keep shooting down yet another wave of enemies. There were maybe two or three times in the whole game where that was an actual option. The second game was pretty linear, sure, but it seems like there was more variety with the action scenes in Uncharted 2 than in 3.

I guess after 2 the developers figured they had everything down pat so they focused more on the graphics and presentation.

latebloomer, Friday, 11 November 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

there were sections that seemed to be like, yeah, sure go ahead and TRY to be stealthy but it's not really designed for that

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 11 November 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

thing is, i felt the graphics/presentation were so much more mems in 2. nothing was the equivalent of the nepal sequence. and the first 1/3 of the game largely taking place in generic steampunk grey/brown tunnels was super lame!

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 11 November 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

yeah it just felt really uninspired all around.

latebloomer, Friday, 11 November 2011 04:20 (twelve years ago) link

more like CHARTED

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 11 November 2011 05:54 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

ok so this shit...

the french mansion scene was terrible, something about the pacing seems really off most of the time.. let's swing from chandeliers, OK, the whole place is on fire, OK, yet i'm never scared of it burning down around my ears because that's not how these games work. i can get lost on a level engulfed in flames and run around literally forever looking for the exit with no worry of harm.

an example: in the chateau you have to go up on the second floor to move a piece of wood that's blocking the door you need to get through with sully. he patiently waits at the bottom for you to complete your little task. you move the piece of wood, you can hear him say "great!" or whatever and go through the door. the music starts pounding. now, because it's impossible to tell how far down you can safely drop, you have to backtrack, taking your route in reverse to get back to that door. all this time you CAN'T SEE HIM, and you're stuck doing this mindless thing that we've already seen before. now, in ANY MOVIE, the only reason to be shown this - instead of just cutting to a shot of the two of you bursting through the door - would be to ramp up tension. why are we seeing you backtrack? because you're impatient, you want to get to sully, you don't know what's on the other side of that door - and he's gone through it! oh god - stay calm, keep running, jump down, and on the other side of that door one of two things happen. sully's either being held hostage by the baddie or he's posing for a self-taken photo with an ancient mummy, saying "whaddap" as you breathlessly enter the room. there are all sorts of expectations that movies set you up for that this game hardly ever capitalizes on, or even realizes are being set up in the first place.

the transitions between locations are beyond perfunctory.

things pick up in syria. i actually enjoyed that.

i liked seeing the old flame again, the blonde journalist.

serious anglophilia going on, there's a cut-rate jason statham AND a cut-rate judi dench in this, the latter of whom apparently doesn't know how to pronounce "cartagena" which is strange, given that she apparently operated there. or something. who knows.

i love thrill-ride on-rails adventure games like this (i loved arkham asylum for instance, probably more than city) but ultimately, as has been said in many places, there really is no pay-off for thinking for yourself EVER in this game. just pick up whatever gun the guys drop, it will be exactly the gun you need. don't try to think one step ahead. no matter how fast you solve the brain-meltingly simple puzzles, you WILL be prodded with a hint before you've maneuvered nathan drake into position to actually execute them. it's like being insulted by a cretin.

the firefights are the only areas where you feel any sort of freedom at all, so i tend to love them, though i have been spoiled by arkham's ridiculously good brawling system. did anyone actually succeed at throwing someone, despite the "pub brawl tutorial" at the beginning? i just mash square until i'm told to mash triangle. even so i do like to brawl. i love seeing a dude in full kevlar, helmet and pump-action shotgun walk up to me. i know what's about to happen. i'm about to cold-cock him in the face with my fist. it's better than waiting 5 minutes for my targeting to change while i have the aiming view on. seriously, panning myself to try and track an assailant, like why even bother? i'm mincemeat before i'm even halfway there.

i could do without all the tomb raider type stuff. if they'd kept the scenarios to market towns, hidden passageways in old chateaux, forests, maybe a big boat (?!) i would have liked it a lot more. tired of old dusty blocks that trigger doors, tired of ancient hidden rooms with miraculously lit lamps, tired of the word "brazier", my god

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

and like, sully's just memorized an entire ancient constellation map in about 5 seconds? what? feasibility isn't obviously the selling point of a game like this but it's a feat so stupendous that it doesn't even register coherently, no one can do this

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

ok i'm playing the boat part now & everything i said was totally worth it for the boat part

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 26 August 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder how long before the first movie comes out

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Sunday, 26 August 2012 04:15 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

playing 2 to gear up 'last of us' release. as much of slog 3 was at points i still loved the shipyard sequence. 2 is untouchable though, bombed-out tibet is eye-popping

joe bogus (am0n), Thursday, 6 June 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link

also the weird universe where everyone is like an incredibly gifted parkour genius
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:45 AM

lol

joe bogus (am0n), Thursday, 6 June 2013 02:38 (ten years ago) link

white guy with hair hmmm

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link

finished 2, warcraft baddies were kinda disappointing but enjoyed it overall. now i know how much of a pointless re-tread 3 was.

am0n, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 00:52 (ten years ago) link

eight months pass...
one year passes...

just got the compilation and started the first game. i hope it proves me wrong but so far it seems like someone thought the tomb raider protag wasn't cocky or male enough

Mordy, Saturday, 20 February 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link

he gets worse

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 20 February 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

just played through the first few chapters of the new one - seems like more of the same as far as gameplay goes so far but holy cow the visuals are amazing

i do not sense the entity ted (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 13:31 (seven years ago) link

I think I'm going to save the new one for neo.

Made a start on the remastered trilogy though, even that looks pretty stunning tbh (only ever played maybe 20% of number 2 before this so they're basically all new to me). Number one is kind of a slog but not that bad really, it feels very much like a PS2 game and maybe that's easier to stomach now than it was on first release.

JimD, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sCPrg2_sFI

am0n, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

i have never played one of these games but i just learned that my friend's older brother was the 'technical art director', so that's cool for him.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

a few hours in now and i still can't believe how good this game looks - i spent like five minutes driving in and out of a stream just to watch mud get washed off the jeep's wheels. it is genuinely incredible in places.

gameplay remains pretty solidly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ though - run, shoot, cutscene, run, explore, repeat. uncharted 2 remains one of the most end to-end exciting games i've ever played but it feels like the formula is wearing pretty thin here even with the addition of some new mechanics

(main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

can someone explain the breathless praise this series gets? never played it but checked out some youtubes over the years and it really just looks like the dumbest shit ever

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

They're kind of boring to play but the stories are relatively well told, and there are some great setpieces -- like the train sequence in 2.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

I enjoy the gameplay. But I don't know that you need to play multiple iterations of this game really. Seem to remember thinking Uncharted 2 was the best one.

the unbearable jimmy smits (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link

i spent like five minutes driving in and out of a stream just to watch mud get washed off the jeep's wheels. it is genuinely incredible in places.
― (main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:16 PM

i've seen that part and it did look pretty amazing. prob still wait for sale or used

am0n, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

I had fun with Uncharted 4 even though the gameplay is pretty repetitive, but it's bs that you can't play the online multiplayer without PS+. is that standard now with sony/ps4?

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

yes :(

Mordy, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

i played the first part of the vita one, it was dumb

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Thursday, 11 August 2016 11:01 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

I just reached the twist of the first game, and wtf, does Naughty Dog think they're making The Last of Us or something??

Abercromb Metrion Finchos (Leee), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link

i just played this game like a year or two ago and i don't remember the twist at all these games are imo not very good games and not very good stories

Mordy, Friday, 27 July 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I started the second game and despite a pretty dodgy beginning (among which is an unremarkable stealth section), it's an incredible improvement on the first game, considering I played half of it in a single night.

Abercromb Metrion Finchos (Leee), Monday, 13 August 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link

Sucked into finish this last night, and it was at its best when it was at its most breezy. That is to say, the final boss fight was not fun, and I had to drop the difficulty down to easy.

Gwent Stefani (Leee), Sunday, 19 August 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link

same here. i think i actually didn't finish it, it was so obviously the end and was so not fun

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I finished U3 even though it had some levels that nearly induced me to rage-quit (nb: I did turn the difficulty down to easy to beat them), and was RELIEVED that it didn't have the same endgame difficulty spikes of U1 and U2. Still, can't wait to sell the disc.

BUT, I've started U4 and the level of polish is magnitudes better (though maybe it's just the target-lock talking). The writing has always been good, but now the story is a lot more fleshed out.

And note to Josh: at least so far, U4's most nostalgic scene is more affecting if you've actually played any one of them for a little while (the stories for previous games you can just google, since the plots have been paper-thin).

Nag Reddit (Leee), Monday, 10 September 2018 18:43 (five years ago) link

That's what I heard. I don't have U4 yet, but I did buy the collection of the previous ones in preparation.

How is the rebooted Tomb Raider series on Ps4? It was not even remotely on my radar until the last couple of weeks, as anticipation for the new one builds. But Rise was supposed to be good, right? More or less the same idea as Uncharted (or vice versa)?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 September 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link

Is this game about rapper name of Drake and how he got his fortune, y/n

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 September 2018 21:03 (five years ago) link

yes

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 September 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Finished U4, and the finale is quite good! Minor spoilers below.

SPOILER
I didn't like the boss fight, but unlike the frustratingly bad ones from U1 or U2, it was because it was a little underwhelming. The story climax was definitely fistpump worthy. Epilogue a little meh, though I definitely enjoyed giving a dog a second treat.

Nag Reddit (Leee), Monday, 24 September 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link


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