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― stevie, Saturday, 12 May 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Short walkthru and some nice looking new screens...
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3159821
Apparently the game features more walking and looking at stuff than crime and prostitues so far!
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 24 May 2007 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link
er, prostitutes...
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 24 May 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Missions are [...] longer
I think this makes me sad, I think. Wasn't long-ass missions one of the annoying things about San Andreas?
― ledge, Thursday, 24 May 2007 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link
It was the lack of save points mid mission that really got to me!
― kv_nol, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link
The Wu-Tang game is great.
― adam, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link
xp Yeah, save points would help. I only ever attempted the last mission once - after fighting my way into the building, and fighting my way up all the stairs, and fighting my way past the big bosses, I was all PLEASE LET THIS BE OVER NOW. But no, suddenly the building was on fire and I had to fight my way all the way downstairs again. I died, of course, and then gave up. SO CLOSE. I'm kinda disappointed I never finished it.
― ledge, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link
I did it 8 or 9 times. Always lost at the same place where the brother is hanging off the fire truck. I could never drive up close enough. It just pissed me off that there was no checkpoint at all :(
― kv_nol, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link
The last mission does let you skip stuff though. If you fail the mission after you get out the building and then restart, it let's you start from when you started chasing the firetruck. This is in the PS2 version, I don't know about other versions.
― V, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Not on the PC it doesn't. Yet another reason why I like the PS2 more than PC at the moment!
― kv_nol, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link
No? Wow, does that suck. On PS2 I think there are three different spots in the last mission you can restart from, provided you get past them in the first place.
Oh, boy, these new screenshots. Rockstar will now have the distinction of having made two games based in Coney Island!
― antexit, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link
WARRRRIORSSSS!!!
― kv_nol, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link
This is the wrong board, but I'm still happy to see NBA Playoff fever reach the shores of the Emerald Isle, even if belatedly!
― Leee, Friday, 25 May 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link
They brought good comics too! (Cheers again)
― kv_nol, Friday, 25 May 2007 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Trailer 2 due out 26th June
― Ste, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link
so it's in, and I'm downloading it now. anyone else seen it?
― Ste, Thursday, 28 June 2007 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link
http://grandtheftauto.yahoo.com/
― stevie, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Hmm... it seems less impressive than the first one somehow - maybe it's the music(?) - though there are some nice looking scenes. I'm eager to see some non-cut-scene footage though at some point....
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 28 June 2007 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Looked like a lot of that footage was gameplay to me, wasn't it?
― antexit, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I doubt it.
I think I'm gonna get really sick of that dude's accent if I have to hear it for 40 game hours.
― polyphonic, Friday, 29 June 2007 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link
the old trailer with the phillip glass music is hilarious. i havent watched the new one yet!!!
― cankles, Saturday, 30 June 2007 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link
The Phillip Glass one is a parody (or homage perhaps?) of the Francis Ford Coppola produced film "Koyaanisqatsi". Once you realize this, it's the best game trailer of all time. Shot for shot, it's identical, and the soundtrack is the same.
― melton mowbray, Saturday, 30 June 2007 11:53 (sixteen years ago) link
All sorts of Koyaanisqatsi clips on youtube.
― Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 30 June 2007 12:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Wow, that is very similar!
― polyphonic, Saturday, 30 June 2007 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link
i remember these, and now i only just realise Philip Glass did that ultra strange version of Bowies - Heroes. I heard it on an Aphex Twin album.
― Ste, Monday, 2 July 2007 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link
A lock box?
― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 20 July 2007 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link
The idea that you're supposed to buy this sixty dollar game then buy two more episodes six months later to actually play the "complete" game is something that's really starting to grate on me. How much is this shit actually going to cost if you want to play the "full" game? 120 dollars?
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 20 July 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Welcome to the next level of "high budget games"
See also: the insane rise of low-cost, "casual games" market. Coincidence? I think not.
― Will M., Friday, 20 July 2007 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Can somebody PLEASE confirm that there are no missions in this game where you have to use a forklift to load crates into the back of a truck?
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 20 July 2007 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link
lol OTM
― Ste, Saturday, 21 July 2007 01:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Hahaha, I was drunkenly talking to a mate earlier tonight about fork lift truck missions! I purposely chose my real life job to avoid that sort of thing. I don't need it in my favourite games! See also the "airing books" section of Shenmue 2.
― melton mowbray, Saturday, 21 July 2007 06:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Plz to also avoid missions that involve aiming either rocket launchers or miniguns with a ps2 controller.
I would like that lockbox!
― kv_nol, Monday, 23 July 2007 10:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Delayed to somewhere between February and April 2008 :(
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 2 August 2007 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
yep, just came here to say that.
http://ir.take2games.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=258238
― marmotwolof, Thursday, 2 August 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm disappointed, but I guess I feel like there are so many other interesting looking games coming out this fall / winter, that it's not too big of a deal
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 2 August 2007 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Bioshock hits this month, so that ought to take care of some needs
― kingfish, Thursday, 2 August 2007 22:03 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7278970&postcount=195
― marmotwolof, Thursday, 2 August 2007 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link
:( :( :(
― antexit, Thursday, 2 August 2007 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link
bums
― Ste, Thursday, 2 August 2007 22:53 (sixteen years ago) link
If I were God, I would have given the developers this idea: Once you complete 100%, then you unlock a PLAYSTATION in ur base that lets you replay any mission.
― Leee, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link
If I were me, I'd point out that NYC does not actually have brown air
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link
That's such a damn good idea. There was a mission in San Andreas where you're jumping barrels in a plane, and if you fall out, it shows you landing on a car. I finished the mission in one go, so I've never been able to see this.
I hear the computer bar where you check your e-mail in IV is called tw@.
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link
they almost cottoned onto this in Vice City Stories, where for the first time they let you replay the Rampages.
it would be a good idea though, saves me having to replay the whole game again. not that i'm complaining about that too much :)
― Ste, Thursday, 13 September 2007 09:58 (sixteen years ago) link
So with a new trailer coming out in a week or so, do you think this game is back on track for a release in early 2008 (maybe by April)? Or are they going to drag this thing out till this time next year?
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Was it ever off-track? i thought they made a statement just recently reiterating the timeframe. Not that they didn't do that in like August of this year, too. Occasionally I think about what it'll be like if this game comes out and it's broken or it sucks or it's been trumped by other games that came out during the delay... And I am really, genuinely embarrassed by how disappointed I feel by even the THOUGHT. Like, it hurts my feelings.
I am a grown man!
― antexit, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 23:09 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm very curious to hear some details on what kind of multiplayer stuff they're putting in there too. No info has been dribbled out so far, right?
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link
What about the save system? Have any of the previews talked about that at all? Is there any chance that they've come to their senses and inserted a quick save - or at least checkpoints on the longer, multi-part missions? It really isn't fun having to completely repeat twenty or thirty minute long missions (speaking as somebody currently stuck on repeat with the last san andreas mission) over and over
― Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Didn't San Andreas kind of do this, actually? You can skip past the earlier parts of long missions that you have to retry. And there's a checkpoint on the last mission too, although it's a long way in.
― The Yellow Kid, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I only hit one checkpoint on GTA:SA, the mission with the Russians. There weren't even any taxi cabs with the arrows pointing to them.
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Am I wrong in thinking that all you can skip is the drive to the mission (in SA? on ps2). When I die I almost always just reload, so you can't do the skip trip, but then it's quicker anyway since one still has all their weapons and everything (you lose 'em when you get out of the hospital, and then you still have to make your way back to the mission starting point too, I thought). It would be funny if just now I learned I was playing the game wrong - making it harder than it need to be. I've been trying to finish this game up finally, but now that I've finally made it to the last mission I'm losing the will. This morning was only my third try at it (first time died clearing out the third floor, second time died in the fire on my way back down) & after twenty five mnutes of work (not fun) I got to the point where you have to catch smoke dropping off the back of the firetruck and just couldn't catch up. Not sure I want to go through all that again (and possibly again and again)
― Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link
you were so close...
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Many of the missions have checkpoints. On the last mission, the checkpoint starts at the point when you're in the car, chasing the firetruck.
So if you hadn't reloaded, you could skip all of that stuff.
― The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link
On the ps2? are you sure? how do you load to a checkpoint then?
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 05:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I got to the firetruck. The last level was so long that, by the time I'd get to the firetruck, I would fail and then say "FUCK THIS GAME", and then automatically turn the PS2 off ... so I never discovered that the game had a checkpoint there. Oops.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 07:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah SA had a couple of checkpointed missions, for sure on the last mission at least.
Vice City Stories also had a new checkpoint feature on the sub games (thank god) after every five levels, so if you got to level 6 on the Paramedic and then failed - it would restart you on level 5 the next time you got into an ambulance.
― Ste, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 09:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I like being able to save and get rid of all my wanted stars - would they still let you do that if you could just save anywhere? It seems like the game would be too easy. You can't put a tank in the pay and spray and normal cars don't spawn when you've got 5 or 6 stars, so I think I'd prefer the save points the way they work right now. Although they could place them in more convenient spots.
Jeff - find Katie in San Fierro (she's hanging round the country club with a blue arrow pointing at her). Once you start dating her, and you don't need to actually go on a date, you get to keep all your weapons when you die.
― V, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 12:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Having to hightail it to a save point with the cops after you is so much a part of the GTA experience I doubt they'd change it. I mean, I think that's the thing I associate MOST with playing GTA games. But there's got to be some compromise between losing your weapons every time you die and there being no penalty for death or getting arrested. Everybody just restarts every time they die. Maybe the replacement of Ammu-nation with the gun dealer is more of a move toward taking the weaponry you need for a mission and just carrying a handgun or something the rest of the time?
― antexit, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Man, this was such a big relief.
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link
tell me about it, i think i did a backflip on the sofa when i discovered it.
I really don't want them to include a quick save, this would ruin a lot of the gameplay for me (stuff that's already been mentioned)
But there's got to be some compromise between losing your weapons every time you die and there being no penalty for death or getting arrested
I think dieing is punishment enough, especially if you were in the middle of a mission. Having said that, again VCS brought something new along - having to buy back your weapons after being killed/busted.
― Ste, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 14:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Fuck - the checkpoint on the final mission is good news - hopefully next time I try it I won't need to use it and will just cruise thru perfectly :)
V- for whatever reason, if I remember right (it was a long time ago), when I ran into Katie she wouldn't date me - I think she said I was too skinny!!!
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link
She's the one in the driving lessons building or something? Yeah you have to get fat.
― antexit, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link
btw antexit, v - I agree that running from the cops and having to make it back to a safehouse or through some stars is an important and fun part of the game. the way I would implement quick save into the series, would be more the way they use it in half-life - if you use quick save it just saves everything about your game exactly where you are - so if you go back to that save, you're still in exactly the same (possibly) fucked-up/wanted situation - that way you could still have safe houses and all that to save at as well, that would knock off your stars and everything. the main thing a quick save feature would improve are those longer missions where you've done a ton of stuff right only to keep fucking up at the same (or nearly the same point) and having to go through a ton of (repetitive) stuff again. That's fun on a game with a really refined control scheme like super mario bros - but on a more dynamic game with kind of clunky controls, like gta, those repeated sections get to be a drag
Anyhow, I doubt they're changing anything about the system, but I think it would make the game more fun and playable - less repetitive and frustrating
Any chance tomorrow's trailer will list the new release date?
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link
I would think so!
Two new screenshots btw:
http://media.gtanet.com/images/3763_gta_iv.jpg http://media.gtanet.com/images/3764_gta_iv.jpg
― antexit, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link
The one in the driving school = Michelle, not Katie. Katie's usually hiding just behind a bush (and yeah, just eat something/go on a treadmill/find a sexier car if you're not good enough for her).
― V, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh, many more screenshots.
http://media.gtanet.com/images/3756_gta_iv.jpg
http://media.gtanet.com/images/3760_gta_iv.jpg
http://media.gtanet.com/images/3761_gta_iv.jpg
http://media.gtanet.com/images/3757_gta_iv.jpg
http://media.gtanet.com/images/3755_gta_iv.jpg
http://media.gtanet.com/images/3759_gta_iv.jpg
― antexit, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:54 (sixteen years ago) link
dudes i never found any of the missions in gta hard! the ones with the model planes in SA were frustrating as fuck, true. but in general my big criticism of the whole series is that most of the 'difficulty' is in completism -- it takes so fucking long dinking around getting all the secrets, but the actual story you can blast through in like 45 mins. harder missions plz!!
― gff, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Some of the races were pretty hard.
― antexit, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link
i cant beat that dirtbike race in vcs right now!
― chaki, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link
gff pls to come round to mine and complete radio controlled planes mission for me thx
― stevie, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
One mission I remember having a particularly hard time with was "Just Business" - an early one where you have to kill a bunch of mobsters inside a building, then outside a building, then (here's where I remember it getting tough) a really long motorcycle chase, where you had to do several things just right.
Also for some reason, the flying mission "N.O.E." where you have to stay below radar and drop off a package and then land back at the airstrip - actually caused me to give up on the game for about five months (until I recently picked it up again & did it on my second try).
Also was never able to do the zero mission shooting down those toy planes (ten or more tries) - luckily it's an optional mission...
But yeah - the hardest thing about the game is just the length. And all the new things you have to keep learning, like flying and landing the hydra only to have to use that knowledge on that one mission. Also when I finally got to the end of that one and was about to land, I panicked and hit the eject button instead of the landing gear down (doh - twice)...
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link
It's too bad so many people give up on the Zero missions. The third Zero mission is one of my favorites in any GTA game. The second Zero mission is really fun too, but definitely the hardest mission in the game other than the final mission (sans checkpoint knowledge).
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link
my trick for getting the races done -- and some of the flying missions iirc -- is to switch to 1st person view. it's a good idea in some of the missions where you have to drive a fast but fragile car, too.
also if i remember right: the last RC plane mission is kind of a crapshoot. you have to get the nearest one first and the furthest one last, and it's just kind of luck if they end up in open areas where you can shoot w/o other shit getting the way or turning around too much
― gff, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Wow, do most people really just restart every time they die? I don't think I've ever done that. It's not like it takes that long to just go to Ammu-Nation and get new gear if you need it.
― The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link
But it's expensive, and often you get stuff like rocket launchers, sniper rifles or powerful guns in the game way before they're available at Ammunation, and you don't want to lose them.
― antexit, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:03 (sixteen years ago) link
I just stock up on ammo/guns with the millions I earn at the $1mil blackjack tables. Otherwise I don't reset, only turn off. It's cheaper than throwing my controller at the tv set.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link
But do you reset your losses at the blackjack tables? Because THAT is cheap.
― antexit, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link
I AM CHEAP.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link
IF THEY PUT IT IN THE GAME IT'S NOT CHEAP.
― Leee, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Anything I can do to avoid some RPG-style, rote leveling up is well worth the scorn of a few gamers.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link
I thought it was cheap that before the last mission you had to take over a bunch of gang territory. That part was just a grind (I almost quit then).
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Taking over gang territory was like my favorite part of that game.
― antexit, Thursday, 6 December 2007 01:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Except for that 100 yards pwned by the Mexicans in east LS.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 6 December 2007 01:49 (sixteen years ago) link
ooohhh... victory at last (what - four years in the making?). The Yellow Kid - thanks so much for your info about checkpoints - I doubt I would have gone back to it without that knowledge. Luckily I was able to get right up to that point again on the first try - though I did fail twice on the chase and once on the next section (I can't believe it was another one of those shoot the motorcycles and cars chasing you sections that I just mentioned hating earlier today - which I probably actually only failed the first time because over the noise of my shooting the firetruck I didn't quite hear / understand dude saying it was useless and to shoot the shit chasing us). My save is only at 61.5% so it looks like there is still I lot I could do if so inclined.
I'm ready for IV, but I guess I'm going to give III a try first, which I never played before.
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 6 December 2007 06:27 (sixteen years ago) link
III in my opinion had the greatest map, atmostphere, and level hardness.
Just be ready for the lack of swimming, camera rotation, climbing, flying vehicles and motorbikes.
― Ste, Thursday, 6 December 2007 09:37 (sixteen years ago) link
You can't control the camera in III? I don't remember that. God that would drive me CRAZY now.
― antexit, Thursday, 6 December 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link
you can do the 'look behind' whilst on foot, or the look left, right, behind whilst in vehicle. But not the cool (and very handy) 360 rotate.
― Ste, Thursday, 6 December 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I definitely liked SA's map better. I spent a week in the Back O' Beyond once.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 6 December 2007 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link
New trailer makes me kind of excited for the story on this one - it seems like it's going to be a little tighter, make a little more sense and possibly be a little more genuinely dramatic. The character animations on the other hand don't look to be advancing as much as the enviornments...
I'm liking the whole, New York, "welcome to America" vibe. If they make a 5 though, the should set it in Europe...
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 6 December 2007 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link
this is a great trailer, extremely similar looking to GTAIII. Which is absoloutely no bad thing.
That music is fantastic too.
Pause it where it shows two cops cars a police chopper, wow.
― Ste, Thursday, 6 December 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
I should hope they let you supply your own soundtracks, it being the next gen and all.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 6 December 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Just started III - only a couple of missions in but the camera seems fine to me... actually walking around seems a little less clunky than with the camera in San Andreas for some reason - the way the camera shifts around as you're driving is a bit worse tho (awkward). What I really miss is not being able to pull up a full city map to plot your routes - just having the little radar bubble makes it a little harder to tell the best way around (maybe since it's a smaller city, as one progresses through the game it'll be easier to memorize one's way around?).
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 6 December 2007 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I still get a little weirded out by the echoes of the pedestrians' laughs and comments as they walk around. Still loved the game, tho'.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 6 December 2007 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah the ambience of III is well eerie
― Ste, Thursday, 6 December 2007 23:41 (sixteen years ago) link
It's definitely easier to memorize the map in III. I knew that thing inside and out, it was a little sad.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 6 December 2007 23:47 (sixteen years ago) link
gff, thanks for the cam tip! i won the dirtbike race!
― chaki, Friday, 7 December 2007 06:33 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah that in-car camera view is ESSENTIAL for that City Slicker mission because the car is a complete bitch to drive at high speeds round corners.
― Ste, Friday, 7 December 2007 09:25 (sixteen years ago) link
New hands on previews and screenshots are up now on various sites...
http://previews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1844/Grand-Theft-Auto-IV/p1/ http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/847/847102p1.html http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=180050 http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/grand_theft_auto_4/preview-734.html
Consensus seems to be 3-4 more months...
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Three months max, they say. By the end of April. Nice to know it's not delayed any further.
― antexit, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Apparently - the game automatically saves after you complete each mission, and the missions also have save points during 'em - which if you fail the mission, you can automatically jump right back to via an onscreen prompt if you so desire. There's also still a safe house save system, for when you want to take a break, but say, haven't just completed a mission. Sounds like they have fixed the save system exactly like I was hoping!
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Release date now set at April 29th, a long way away.
http://ir.take2games.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=289342
― antexit, Thursday, 24 January 2008 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Isn't that the anniversary of the LA Riots? COINCIDENCE I THINKS NOT
― antexit, Thursday, 24 January 2008 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link
and i'm still undecided on whether to get 360 or ps3 for this
― Ste, Thursday, 24 January 2008 14:56 (sixteen years ago) link
oh mang, i found out recently that someone i know really is well is working on this game! they wouldn't tell me anything about it though :(
― zappi, Thursday, 24 January 2008 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Apparently - the game automatically saves after you complete each mission, and the missions also have save points during 'em - which if you fail the mission, you can automatically jump right back to via an onscreen prompt if you so desire.
I can't tell you how many times I'd complete a mission, only to get shot to death on the way home to save.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link
it's annoying but you laugh about it down the pub later.
― Ste, Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link
If you ONLY want to play GTA, Ste, PS3 may be better at this point çause of the Bluray (unless the PS3 version is fucked up somehow as they often are), but if you're interested in playing online or playing other next-gen games you should get an Xbox, which has like 20 times as many good games for it.
― antexit, Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, that's basically the conclusions I came to. And I'm unsure whether I will or won't be playing other games. Past records show that I play very little on consoles other than GTA. I still have a few months to decide.
― Ste, Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link
I hope that I can shoot from inside cabs, and I rillyrilly hope that I can shoot the cabbie while he's driving. (Pls no media a11iance ppl read this post.)
― Leee, Thursday, 24 January 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Ste - as somebody who owns both a 360 and a ps3 I usually wait to see if people are saying there is any significant difference between the performance of multi-platform titles. If there isn't - I will always go for the ps3 version 1. Because I feel like my 360 can die (again) at any moment 2. I just prefer the ps3 style, interface, controller, quietness etc... 3. I feel like the ps3 will have a significantly longer life span than the 360.
In the case of GTA 4 you will eventually be able to buy some sort of additional chapters or something on the 360, 4-6 months after the game comes out (maybe sooner? because of the delay?). In a weird way that kind of bugs me, but I've never bought additional add ons for a game yet and am not sure I would in this case either. There should be plenty of game in the original release. Unless I hear the ps3 version is gimped in some significant way (which I doubt on such a big title) that's the version I'll be picking up, but I don't think there is one right answer (at least not yet).
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 24 January 2008 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link
oh - a another thing in favor of the ps3 version... The game is supposedly to have a multiplayer online component - on the ps3 it'll be free to play that, on the 360 you'll have to buy a one year subscription to gold for $50.00 USD if you want to play it online (though when you first get a 360 I think you still can get one month free of gold).
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 24 January 2008 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link
You can also buy XBox Live Gold in 3-month chunks. That's what I do. You definitely don't have to buy the year... you're either Gold or you aren't.
― polyphonic, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link
I forgot about that - though gold is even more expensive when bought in smaller chunks (twenty usd for three months). It's not like it's super expensive, but it's not free either. I've been debating with myself if it's worthwhile re-upping (I think mine runs out in a week or two)
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Anyhow - I'm excited it looks like the game has an official release date. April 29th will be here before we know it. I really didn't think the game would be coming out until the end of 2008
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Ste, Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:20 (Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:20)
After putting foot through screen.
― kv_nol, Friday, 25 January 2008 09:16 (sixteen years ago) link
you will eventually be able to buy some sort of additional chapters or something on the 360
Is there any technical reason why the PS3 isn't getting this offer? Because if not I'd say they'll probly bring it out sometime in the future, depending on rising increase of PS3 perhaps.
― Ste, Friday, 25 January 2008 09:45 (sixteen years ago) link
sorry..
increase of popularity/sales of PS3, should I say.
― Ste, Friday, 25 January 2008 11:54 (sixteen years ago) link
It's not a technical thing, Ste, it's an exclusive deal Rockstar did with Microsoft, announced a few E3s ago. I know exclusives often turn out to be "timed exclusives," but I think this is the kind of thing where Rockstar got paid fifty million dollars to give the content to Xbox and Xbox alone, as a console selling-point. Kind of moot now that most people have gotten sick of waiting for the game and chosen one way or the other... Except you!
― antexit, Friday, 25 January 2008 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Funny Amazon review comment on gtaIV:
"Having never even heard of Grand Theft Auto, not owning an XBOX and the game not being out for another 4 months, I can quite happily give it 5 stars based on 3 lines of badly spelled gibberish written by a 13 year old that I saw somewhere or another. "
― Ste, Friday, 25 January 2008 14:24 (sixteen years ago) link
official site's up!
― antexit, Friday, 8 February 2008 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link
link please, as I thought Rockstar official gta site has been up for some time now hasn't it? Or is this something new.
Was thinking about a future-setting GTA and how a lot of people dislike the idea. But how about a not-too-distant future with only subtle looking futuristic graphics but allowing the designers to allow 'some' new inventions but not too ridiculous ones to be included?
Failing that, a 1979 british version including ford cortina's, capri's, and bedford vans?
― Ste, Monday, 11 February 2008 11:56 (sixteen years ago) link
It was a placeholder site that's been up since the announcement. This is the whole flash-based, daily-updated jammy with lots of video and pics and maps and new info. www.gta4.com
And I tell you again, get 1 Crackdown for your futuristic GTA needs. One of you guys is playing it every time I log on to Live... Who is it again?
― antexit, Monday, 11 February 2008 13:27 (sixteen years ago) link
i just realised, i woke up this morning with an unplaceable tune rattling around in my head. I now realise it's actually the tune from Trailer 2.
― Ste, Monday, 11 February 2008 13:39 (sixteen years ago) link
It's me, I am always playing Crackdown. My little brother got it for me for xmas and i only just now got around to playing it and boy, is it a hell of a lot of fun. Definitely will tide any GTA fan over until 4.
― Will M., Monday, 11 February 2008 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I haven't played it in ages. Next time I see you on I'll pop it in and we should try out the multiplayer, which is just two guys wilding out in the same city, right? You can do whatever you want?
― antexit, Monday, 11 February 2008 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, pretty much. It's the exact same game, with more humans.
― Will M., Monday, 11 February 2008 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Crackdown is/was a lot of fun, especially with two players, but it's a little broken in the sense that most of the main stuff to do in the game is too easy, especially with two people once you have powered up a bit. Jumping around the city trying to collect orbs is probably its best component, but there isn't really enough variety or challenge (except for some of the races and stuff, which are just kind of lame actually, especially the car stuff) for the game to really hold up. It's great fun about for about a week's worth of gaming though! Hopefully a few of the similar looking games coming out this year (Infamous, Prototype and Mirror's Edge) will build on and top Crackdown.
The GTA site is at http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/ btw
― Jeff LeVine, Monday, 11 February 2008 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link
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god im regretting this xbox more and more every day.
good news - release date is 2 days before my birthday. yay!
― sunny successor, Monday, 11 February 2008 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link
I might actually spend my gummint rebate check on a PS3 now, yikes. Sorry EL BOT TOM.
― Leee, Monday, 11 February 2008 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link
They're saying it takes an hour to get from one side of the map to the other, presumably on foot. This is quite something, I did a timed 'strole' from one corner of the SA map to the other last night which took just over half an hour.
The only eventuality I had was at some point a nutcase wanted to run me down in a big-foot, but i out maneouvered him and he gave up. (i was playing the multiplayer game)
― Ste, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 09:36 (sixteen years ago) link
also, looks like i'm opting for the ps3 for this. i have a question.
do i *really* need to buy a hdtv?
― Ste, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 11:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh, Ste.
― antexit, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 11:41 (sixteen years ago) link
I would've said "Oh yes" until I got one. Now I would only say "yeah, probably."
― Will M., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link
I used to have to play my NES on a black and white TV in my bedroom. I could DO it, but it sucked.
― antexit, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link
It would be cool to see the difference in person between playing a new game on an HD vs. SD TV. Now is actually a pretty good time to start thinking about an HDTV as the prices have gotten quite a bit more reasonable. If you're not super worried about a big size screen you can even get some pretty nice 22" HD monitors for 350 USD - in particular I was recently looking at the Gateway HD2200 which has hook-ups for HDMI and component video as well as the standard VGA. Note that neither the PS3 or Wii can be hooked up via VGA (as far as know - maybe with an expensive (100+) VGA converter box), but you can buy the 360s 40 dollar VGA cable to use it with a standard computer monitor.
― Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link
I JUST ORDERED A HD TELLY HA HA HA I AM MAD!
― Ste, Thursday, 21 February 2008 12:01 (sixteen years ago) link
good work.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 21 February 2008 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link
so it didn't arrive and the order has been cancelled.
so close.
― Ste, Monday, 25 February 2008 09:37 (sixteen years ago) link
damn.
― s1ocki, Monday, 25 February 2008 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link
EA to buy Take Two and therefore Rockstar? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7262328.stm
― treefell, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 09:30 (sixteen years ago) link
I thought that that bid was already rejected a few days ago? Or is that a new one?
― Will M., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link
oh nvm it says it's rejected there
http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/#?page=lcpdrecruit&content=video0
some new stuff appearing
― Ste, Saturday, 8 March 2008 14:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Have you bought your console yet Ste?
― antexit, Saturday, 8 March 2008 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/wet/loveMeet/embed/mboringloser.jpg
― Leee, Saturday, 8 March 2008 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link
"Hank, I married a MAN, I didn't marry a ... GAMER"
― Ste, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Antexit, no not yet. I wasn't impressed with a recent PS3 demo of COD4 and Burnout so I'm holding back until the release of this game. It still may be an xbox360.
― Ste, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Came across this board and am in the same prediciment as Ste. I found this article, which has me leaning towards the PS3.
― Jonathan, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't believe that 16.4% failure rate. I'm pretty sure it is quite a bit higher. As somebody who has both systems, like I said above, I prefer the ps3, because (among other things) it runs A LOT quieter (as somebody who plays a lot more late at night, a quiet machine is nice) and smoother - sometimes my 360 seems to have trouble loading open world streaming data - which worries me & it has definitely crashed more than my ps3. On the other hand, the 360 has better library of games, is less expensive and is going to have the extra content for GTA IV eventually (I'm assuming each extra episode with be 15-20 dollars though). And as somebody whose 360 got the red rings of death, it's not too big of a deal - you just call up Microsoft - they send you a box - you send in your 360 - and about three weeks later you get it back.
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link
i really want my 360 to die so i can get a new one already!
― Will M., Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link
The only problem with that is - the "new" 360 they sent me back actually works worse (runs as loud, makes more weird sounds, crashes more) than the one I had before. I guess it was probably a refurbished one?
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Do you get your DLC back?
― antexit, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link
With the red ring thing you detach your hard drive and power cables and just send in the box. So when you get your 360 back, you just clip your hard drive back on and you're pretty much good to go (just have to recover your gamertag, I think).
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link
erm, ah. i think i'll get a ps3 then. lol.
― Ste, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 23:12 (sixteen years ago) link
might as well if you're not playing a lot of gamews, you have a bru-ray then as well.
― Will M., Thursday, 13 March 2008 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link
A quick warning though - it might be worth it to wait a bit on the ps3 until they start bundling in the dual shock 3 controller (I think that happens before gta IV, right?), as it's a much better controller than the orginal pack-in (more solid feeling + rumble).
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link
i was thinking about that but then i realized i was gonna get a second controller anyway so i ordered a dual shock from play-asia. or yes-asia. or something.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh Ste I just remembered, only the 360 version will have the exclusive "downloadable content" aka episodes you can download and add to the game a few months after release.
― Will M., Monday, 17 March 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Anybody see that quite good-looking fake(?) intro that someone put on youtube today?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQWTijxy6x8
― antexit, Monday, 17 March 2008 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link
online mutliplayer details + screens
holy shit am i excited by this. like the single player isn't going to swallow my life on its own.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 20 March 2008 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, surely we're all going to be multiplaying this lots, so the console ste should buy is the one that most of us have? Which is...what? I'd guess 360. That's what I'll be playing on.
― JimD, Thursday, 20 March 2008 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link
meh, tried GTA multi mode on the San Andreas game, it's really an anticlimax.
I like to play GTA solo anyway, it's that sort of game for me.
― Ste, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link
(altho MultiTheftAuto is a lot more fun, but it's just vehicle based - no on foot action)
― Ste, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link
The multiplayer stuff here looks to be a lot more fully realized than earlier attempts. Time will tell, but I'm definitely looking forward to fooling around with those different modes this time around (never did before).
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link
lol is that supposed to be a scan from an actual magazine?
― s1ocki, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
360 = more single player once they release DLC! the choice is so easy!
― Will M., Thursday, 20 March 2008 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link
So a new, and final, trailer is to be released tomorrow.
I have this awful feeling that they'll fuck something major up and make it unplayable. In both Stories games they managed to completely ruin vigilante missions by making them ridiculously hard (crims just shot the shit out of your car), these were one of my favourite parts of the game.
― Ste, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Have you decided on a console yet Ste? I love that you can jump in and out of multiplayer from single-player. ILG hoo-ridin'!
― antexit, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link
god no, and time is ticking away. What has everyone else got, or getting?
― Ste, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I think the majority on this board are Xboxers? If you're really buying a console as a GTA platform, seems like if you're a real nut for the game the episodic content is a dealmaker, since they're otherwise identical, and more of your multiplayer buds have it. Though if I were buying a system this year and wanted something futureproof I would probably opt for the PS3.
― antexit, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link
The thing about picking up a ps3 would be that you could also pick up Gran Turismo prologue, Metal Gear Solid 4 (in May, right), Wipeout HD (in June?) and Little Big Planet in the fall - and also free online. But if you're just buying a system for one game (and don't mind a noisier, somewhat clunkier machine), you probably save a little money if you pick up an xbox, plus like others have said, you can also only buy the extra content (whatever that will be) if 100 hours of game isn't enough for you.
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link
http://kotaku.com/372415/gta-iv-street-map-leaked
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Besides Gears 2 are there even any 360 exclusives worth knowing about this year? It really seems like it's the PS3's year.
― antexit, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link
From Official Xbox Magazine: "Jeronimo Barrera, a senior developer at Rockstar, says it takes testers playing 4 hours a day 'a good 2 weeks to get through the whole single-player game.'"
40 hours? That ain't very long for this kind of game, even if they're just playing right through.
― antexit, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link
I think 40 hours is about how long it took me to get through the last one
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link
For me it was way longer, but I did a lot of fucking around and side missions along the way.
― antexit, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link
and you didn't have the pressure of getting the job done on you either :P
when you dick around at all when playtesting you don't playtest for long
― Will M., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, half the fun was just driving/flying/biking/fucking around. Trying to find weird little bits on the map like the ramp on the top of a mesa in the desert, where you could launch a 4-wheeler off of before pulling a parachute.
That kinda thing.
― kingfish, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link
I forgot - has there been any announcement if the game will let you set up custom soundtracks?
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link
See, I think dicking about has a lot of positive effects on playing the main game. Like you can discover short cuts, hidden packages give you weapons and in short you just get a lot of practice with driving or shooting.
― Ste, Thursday, 27 March 2008 09:36 (sixteen years ago) link
GUYS:
On April 29th Rockstar Games will release the most anticipated game of 2008, Grand Theft Auto IV. In addition to the game, the company is launching the Rockstar Social Club, a new website that will extend your experience of Grand Theft Auto IV and all future Rockstar Games titles. The Rockstar Social Club is more than just a standard gaming site. It features all of the statistical leaderboards that gamers have come to expect, and combines them with performance-based competitions and awards.
Registration for the Rockstar Social Club begins on April 15th and anyone can sign up with their Xbox Gamertag and/or a PlayStation Network ID.
GTA IV, the first game featured on the Rockstar Social Club, has exciting features beyond multiplayer leaderboards, including:
* LCPD Police Blotter — A virtual map and tracker of single-player criminal activity logged in Liberty City from the aggregated data of millions of connected players - showing the most dangerous areas of town, most commonly used weapons and more.
* The Story Gang — This special single-player leaderboard recognizes players who complete Niko Bellic's main story arc of Grand Theft Auto IV - The leaderboard ranks players according to the total amount of playing time it's taken to complete the story, as well as a historical rank by who has completed it first. Members of this club will receive special online widgets and merit badges marking all of their in-game accomplishments.
* The 100% Club — Watch to see who will be the first to complete 100% of the game. The first ten people to be identified on the Social Club as reaching 100% will be sent an ultra-rare commemorative 'key to the city' to mark their accomplishment. In the future, the 100% Club will then carry a historical leaderboard showing rankings of who has completed 100% of a game in the shortest span of playing hours.
* The Hall of Fame — This area will dynamically recognize those singularly elite players who have reached the top of the hill on various statistical leaderboards, and will also contain a personal awards display of special in-game landmarks and successes in Social Club competitions.
* The Liberty City Marathon — A ranking of special physical milestones achieved in the game - from the amount of miles walked, driven, or swam - to the number of bullets fired and stunt-jumps jumped. There will be additional special marathon-based competitions in the future from this area as well.
The Rockstar Social Club doesn't stop there. With special competitions, leaderboards and challenges rolling out regularly in the weeks and months following the game's release, this is just the beginning of an on-going Liberty City experience and is a small taste of what's to come from Rockstar Games for GTAIV and beyond...
― antexit, Thursday, 27 March 2008 19:39 (sixteen years ago) link
: O
― czn, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Imagine they took this info, and flipped it back on the game, making some areas of town more dangerous than others IN REAL TIME :O
― Will M., Thursday, 27 March 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link
New (final) trailer is up everywhere...
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, it's pretty lame too.
but still, can't wait. antexit, that all sounds pretty neat.
― Ste, Friday, 28 March 2008 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link
ya congratulations antexit.
― s1ocki, Friday, 28 March 2008 00:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Thank you all so much!
― antexit, Friday, 28 March 2008 01:33 (sixteen years ago) link
have they released the soundtrack yet?
― kingfish, Friday, 28 March 2008 04:36 (sixteen years ago) link
only trouble with the 100% ranking is that most of those quick enough to get on will more than likely have cheated.
― Ste, Friday, 28 March 2008 10:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Its looking like a ps3 for me, the only reason to get the xbox would be for the downloadable extras and we're not even sure that they won't in future be available for ps3. Usually they are, I'm taking the risk.
And if they don't ever become available, meh, in a couple of years i'll just get a cheap 360 to play them on.
― Ste, Friday, 28 March 2008 10:20 (sixteen years ago) link
A thought towards the multiplayer.
Will it feature traffic and pedestrians? That would be mammoth programming task wouldn't it, for client pc's to deal with the same AI of non player characters and vehicles.
If it didn't include them it could be a bit shit though.
― Ste, Friday, 28 March 2008 11:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Might not be that hard if there's only a limited number and they ony behave pseudo-randomly. Maybe...
― ledge, Friday, 28 March 2008 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link
It's the vehicles more than the peds I'm thinking, say for instance you have a race situation and you the leader drive through some heavy traffic successfully. The guy behind you who might be just far enough away to not see this traffic yet, by the time they get to that position - will they be faced with the same 'random' traffic? Or will it have spawned new (perhaps not quite so heavy) traffic making things unfair.
if u follow.
― Ste, Friday, 28 March 2008 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link
(you the leader of course have already drove further on, effectually creating more traffic down the line)
I guess we could live with it even if the traffic remained random and only the same traffic would be encountered if two different players viewpoints crossed at the same time. But then what about sniper rifle scopes, that could pose some problems?
― Ste, Friday, 28 March 2008 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Go for a 360, 'cuz Fallout 3 is comin'
― kingfish, Friday, 28 March 2008 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link
to be fair, i hadn't realised how much cheaper the 360 was. i could be back to square one here.
― Ste, Friday, 28 March 2008 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link
-- kingfish, Friday, March 28, 2008 2:10 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
for ps3 too!
― s1ocki, Friday, 28 March 2008 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link
It's weird how each trailer released for this game was less exciting than the one before (loved the first one), but I'm still looking forward to the game more than ever.
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 28 March 2008 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link
my favourite trailer was number two, but this was purely because of the boggs music
― Ste, Friday, 28 March 2008 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link
more on multiplayer
the game is doomed by my expectations for it, which i don't seem to be able to mitigate or control at all.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link
A friend of mine sent me a mysterious message a few days ago that I have three weeks to come up with $2500...
Turns out it's so I can buy a TV and PS3 and this game in order to be wheel man for his drive-bys.
― Kerm, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Wow, you could buy that stuff for $1500, easy. Less, even. Your friend is mental.
― Will M., Wednesday, 9 April 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link
I think he's planning on me rolling a big BRAVIA. Plus, wait he doesn't have a PS3 yet either!
Regardless, we're definitely both mental.
― Kerm, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link
do we know if you can really climb lamp posts?
― Ste, Thursday, 10 April 2008 10:23 (fifteen years ago) link
and why
http://www.gamesradar.com/f/hes-finished-gta-iv-and-mgs4/a-2008040914415107076
"I blew through a crosswalk just as a guy was – I was kind of going through fairly slow – but he was holding his coffee cup, the car came really close and he kind of jumped. I mean, the reaction – because they're using the Natural Motion engine – the guy sort of reacted to the car. He jumped back, dropped his coffee, starts bitching about dropping his coffee and, you know, you just go by. But the whole sort of movement and interaction between the person and the car looked like what would happen if you went too close to a guy carrying a cup of coffee on the sidewalk. "
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 10 April 2008 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link
"One example was that, as I was failing a mission and I was retreating, I got like a two-star warning, so I’m trying to get out, and I rear-ended a taxi. All of a sudden it bursts up into flame, fire started coming out. I was like, "oh crap," so I drove a little bit further out of the way, and it was in an intersection with a lot of other cars. Then a few seconds later, a guy stumbles out of the taxi in flames. So then the first car explodes, and another car that was right next to it catches fire.
"So I actually felt kind of bad about this. I mean, the poor guy’s running around on fire. So I pull out a telephone and I call the fire department. So a few seconds later, a big fire truck comes up, parks too close to one of the cars that explodes right as it gets there... and then the fire truck explodes. Six or seven cars ended up going up in flames and exploding, and people are running around on fire. It was all sort of this dynamic setup that I kind of triggered by one tiny event: I rear-ended a car."
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 10 April 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link
sounds like just another typical day in Theft land really
― Ste, Friday, 11 April 2008 00:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Shoulda left a note.
― Kerm, Friday, 11 April 2008 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Played the shit out of Vice City last night, the pedestrians are hilarious. There was a guy who was just giggling and farting, he ended with a 'look at those great titties' remark which just made me bawk with laughter.
― Ste, Friday, 11 April 2008 09:41 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, IV will need some "I need some titties ta squeeze" type comments
― kingfish, Saturday, 12 April 2008 08:11 (fifteen years ago) link
They've released official multiplayer info
http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/#?page=multiplayer
― Ste, Saturday, 12 April 2008 12:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm very excited about multiplayer, perhaps more than I am about the main game. You should all make sure you have me on your Xbox Live lists, ready for release! I'm Jimdoo.
(Ste, have you chosen between 360 and ps3 yet? I'll feel cheated if you choose sony and I don't get the chance to shoot you)
― JimD, Saturday, 12 April 2008 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV_soundtrack
― kingfish, Monday, 14 April 2008 06:49 (fifteen years ago) link
does anyone know if this will work on ps2?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 14 April 2008 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link
aw
― That mong guy that's shit, Monday, 14 April 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link
god i need to swap my xbox360 for a ps3 quick.
― sunny successor, Monday, 14 April 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link
oh and i saw the trailer for this on afternoon tv a week or so ago.
Seriously i'm considering just waiting until this comes out on pc in which time I'll have purchased a super duper system, and it'll probly be twice as shit hot than either console versions. I'm finding it real hard to come to terms with coughing up that much money for a ps3/360 + HD telly for just one game.
i'll make my choice after hearing u guys review it on April 29
― Ste, Monday, 14 April 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link
anyone else taking a sick day/vacation day on April 29?
anyone else feel ashamed of what they've become?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 14 April 2008 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I'll be home, but not for this necessarily. I might have to wait until my birthday (May 1) for it. We did buy a shit hot LCDTV though.
― sunny successor, Monday, 14 April 2008 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link
May take a sick day. May try to pick the game up at midnight if a store within walking distance stays open.
― Jeff LeVine, Monday, 14 April 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Ste - you could get a 360 and hook it up to your computer monitor (VGA cable sold separately). Still expensive for one game though. I wonder if R* is going to bother to put this out on PC - has anybody heard anything official?
― Jeff LeVine, Monday, 14 April 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link
ooh, now i didn't know that. hmm.
― Ste, Monday, 14 April 2008 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
OK, I am officially excited about this now. Only problem is I won't have a really big telly until the end of May and it's usually difficult to differentiate between locations on the map with the one I have at the moment. But I'm not waiting until the end of May to play this. No way.
Am I the only girl in this beeyotch?
― Madchen, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 11:25 (fifteen years ago) link
If they don't put this out on PC I will be very ;_;
― Pashmina, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha! There are other girls, around, well, like, one I think. Abbott?
I am officially excited about this, and inadvertantly it turns out I am also off work on the 29th. I'll be bagging this for the 360.
Madchen, do you have an Xbox 360? What's your gamertag?
:D
― czn, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 11:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes, but I am not hooked up to technology other than the telly yet -that will happen at the end of May too. I do have a sludge-coloured headset at the ready though, courtesy of Halo.
― Madchen, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Have we noted that the release coincides with a bank holiday weekend? Bye bye hedge trimming, car washing and visits to stately homes then.
― Madchen, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Hah! Are you going to jump on the Call of Duty 4 gravy train too?
― czn, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Madchen, I am here and excited too!
― sunny successor, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
going. to. be. mega.
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=132265
― czn, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
oh. god.
― Ste, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
that sounds seriously delicous, particularly the new wanted star system.
Although I'd be interested to know how that works with police chases, would you lose your wanted level if you managed to lose the tail?
Does anyone know who the mystery guest celebrity is?
― Ste, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link
can't believe this thread is over a year old
o_0
― czn, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link
haha my first post, a year of anguish and indecision
― Ste, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link
I was reading the cover feature of Edge this morning and getting all excited again.
― Madchen, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link
And there's a funfair! </girl>
― Madchen, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Did you buy a 360 solely for this Madchen?
― czn, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Hey, I'll bet Rockstar Social Club will have cross-platform friend groups and stuff for stats-- hello ILG group!
― antexit, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link
(x-p) No, Stet gave it to me for my birthday. With Halo, which I am not getting on with (it makes me feel sick).
― Madchen, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Hell, this is the first GTA set after September 11th, isn't it. The amount of reactionary bullshit for them to draw from is a veritable ocean.
― kingfish, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link
san andreas?
― czn, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link
san andreas was set before 9/11, i nthe early 90s or so
― Will M., Wednesday, 16 April 2008 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link
did you guys not read that 9/11/2001 is the DAY the game starts??
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link
it's gonna be a big part of it
Yeah, it's pretty weird-- I don't know why it's not being reported more.
They say it starts on Nikos' boat to america and RIGHT when the coastline of liberty city comes into view from the ocean the first plane hits.
― antexit, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess they were worried that the controversy might overshadow the other stuff about the game they want to publicize... it actually makes a lot of sense they wouldn't play it up.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link
it will put the whole immigrant experience story in a much more contemporary perspective, for one thing.
― antexit, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess this is why they're not allowing planes in this one??
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
That's how they got AROUND allowing them! The security gets so much more strict after 9/11 you can't get onto the runway to steal one.
― antexit, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
oh, that's smart!
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link
confirmed for the soundtrack
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/310803coup.jpg
― czn, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link
look. just give me this goddamn game already. the waiting is too much.
― sunny successor, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link
1up preview, though mostly positive, throws a little water on the fire...
"You'll likely notice the same graphical "quirks" that the series has dealt with since the jump to 3D [...] There's some long-distance graphical fade-in as well as some street-level hazards that appear only after you hit them. Traffic will be nonexistent one second, then three cars deep when you rotate the camera back around, and then completely disappear when your wanted level gets to two or three stars"
and the shooting is still a question mark in my book, they say "Pulling the left trigger halfway on the 360 controller lets you aim a weapon freely, while a full pull locks on to the closest enemy or nonplayable character in your camera's view."
I certainly don't like the sound of that half pull. And I wonder if having a lock on shot will take some of the fun out of the multiplayer
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link
theres no button to just lock on?
― sunny successor, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link
More soundtrack details coming in.
Jazz-Fusion station will probably end up my favorite.
― Eric H., Thursday, 17 April 2008 12:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm glad that I don't recognise most of those.
Looking forward to driving around to Oxygene though.
― Ste, Thursday, 17 April 2008 13:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm a little confused since it's (according to upthread) based in 2001-ish? But, I see "Get Innocuous" by LCD Soundsystem on the Radio Broker station? Not too get too aspierube but they've been very good about avoid anachronisms in the past games, is that out the door now?
― Will M., Thursday, 17 April 2008 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link
erm guys i think slocki was joking about the 9/11 thing
GTA4 is set in 2007
― Ste, Thursday, 17 April 2008 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link
L O L
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 17 April 2008 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link
The trailer with "Get innocuous" was on TV last night. Have decided to buy 360 as they're on sale at the moment, play the hell out of this game and save up for PS2. God I want this game so much. GTA:SA doesn't work on PC so seriously starting to get withdrawal symptoms.
― hyggeligt, Thursday, 17 April 2008 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link
well, color me retarded, it sounded pretty awesome so i wanted to believe it -_-
― Will M., Thursday, 17 April 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link
rockstargames.com/socialclub is supposed to be taking registrations today, i dunno when, exactly, but sometime. keep your eyes open!
― Will M., Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
shipping to stores today, will anyone break the street date like argos did with halo 3?
I got my ipod touch a couple weeks before they were supposed to be selling them... might be worth a punt to play on some tesco worker's ignorance?
― czn, Friday, 18 April 2008 12:00 (fifteen years ago) link
i think the soundtrack is now the feature i most anticipate with each new game.
― kingfish, Saturday, 19 April 2008 07:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Having read the gamespot.com "hands=on" review of the multiplayer aspects, I could not be more excited for this game. Get here already!
― B.L.A.M., Sunday, 20 April 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link
link?
my 360 is totally spazzing out now and pretty much refusing to do anything too processor intensive which basically means, swos=yes, xbla=yes, cod4=no. doesn't bode well for GTA4. not sure whether to courier the thing out to msoft on monday/tuesday and hope it's back in time for GTA4 next tues. anyone got any experience with msoft support on RRoD?
― czn, Sunday, 20 April 2008 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link
alternative is obv, it works intermittently and seems to work after the 'towel trick' for a few days at a time, just a pain to have to do the towel trick obv
GTAIV Multi-Player Hands-On
― B.L.A.M., Sunday, 20 April 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Do want.
― jim, Sunday, 20 April 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I have just sent my 360 in for servicing, the RRoD/towel trick was getting me down + doubtful I can afford GTAIV on launch day = no launch day blow out for me. : /
― czn, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
The waiting!!! This final week is killing me more than the whole last year!
― Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Just mostly really looking forward to running around a well designed open world and exploring
― Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
yes and yes. i won't be in a hurry to start any missions. i want some quality explore/random death time.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm trying to think where I should buy it since I didn't pre-order. Supermarkets don't do pre-orders so that's probably my best bet, but I'd probably have to get up stupid early to go to the nearest Tesco or whatever before work :'(
― jim, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm always amazed by how little I care about the GTA series. I sometimes feel like there's something wrong with me.
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link
OTM.
― jim, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link
There is something wrong with you!
― hyggeligt, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link
what has life done to Dan P to make him stop caring?
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Did Blizzard close down it's servers or something? This new and unfeeling DP scares me.
― hyggeligt, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link
taken from the window of my flat; how close I live to tesco: http://img.skitch.com/20080422-nn6ie6bwyh1wc56jh6ax8x1f87.jpg
not that I have a 360 right now : /
― czn, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link
someone was shot at that pub on the corner a few weeks ago. real life gta
take two / rockstar have done an immense job of marshalling the hype for this game… it has been a exercise in precision control: with info only being leaked out slowly… apart from the world map being leaked to kotaku (?), they've done really well
do we even know what the hud looks like?
― czn, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 09:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Among the songs listed for the latin music station, according to wikipedia: Aqua - "Barbie Girl."
― Eric H., Wednesday, 23 April 2008 10:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Excellent. Great song. I say this without a hint of sarcasm, I genuinely like that song. It is miles better than Salsa. I realise that I now look like a fool. So it goes...
― hyggeligt, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 11:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Download Grand_Theft_@uto_IV_MULTI5_PAL_READNFO_XBOX360-iC0N.t0rrent
come on barbie let's go party
― antexit, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 12:11 (fifteen years ago) link
gameplay videos starting to leak out now... going to be a busy week for the takedown temp at take two
― czn, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/206925.html
― czn, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link
-- antexit, Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:11 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link
will that play on your setup?
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link
the 'leaked' videos are either removed immediately or complete bollocks lol
― Ste, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I saw a couple today, low quality but undoubtedly footage of the game
has dampened my enthusiasm slightly tbh
― czn, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
just worked http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/206871.html
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I've seen a couple. The only thing that was a little disappointing was how bouncy the driving bits looked (still).
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link
it just rminded me fr all the innovation it is still a gta game and I've never partic liked gta games lol
― czn, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I decided not to watch that because for whatever reason I really enjoy the process of starting a game for the first time.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah - I clicked on a link that was to the opening credits and watched about ten seconds before deciding, wait - I want to see that for the first time when I'm actually playing the game. However, the gametrailers clip I linked to above doesn't really spoil anything - it's just a minute or so of a gun fight / car chase (not any different really from anything in the earlier games - though it looked good - especially the shooting!). I also watched a longer clip (removed) of Niko walking around a bit and stealing a car - didn't feel like those really spoiled anything - just gave me a little more solid idea of what to expect.
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link
But yeah - it's time to stop watching videos and start crossing my fingers for the call from "that special someone."
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
you know tyra banks?
― czn, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link
joeks
jeff, you have a connec' who is going to hook you up early?
hey u guys http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/akane2299/GTA-comparison.jpg
...hawt.
― Creeztophair, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Who is that, Ashlee Simpson? Miley Cyrus?
― Leee, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
nothing on Gametrailers works on my pc, what does it require?
― Ste, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Ste - I'm not sure. Try dailymotion - it's flash (I think) and seems to have the most stuff...
GTA IV results sorted by most recent http://www.dailymotion.com/search/gta%2Biv/1
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I obtain much hard one.
― jim, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link
-- Leee, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 21:21 (Yesterday) Link
that would be jessica chobot. she's a writer or something for ign.
― Creeztophair, Thursday, 24 April 2008 01:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Dailymotion search engine doesn't seem to work for me either, I'd need to go through google to get them (but they're not indexed there yet)
― Ste, Thursday, 24 April 2008 08:18 (fifteen years ago) link
then again, i don't care. i can wait a week for official glimpses of game footage for lawds sake.
― Ste, Thursday, 24 April 2008 09:37 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/landing/gtaiv/gta4midnight.pdf
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I wonder if Game Buzz will have a midnight opening (then again I am too old for that shit)
― Will M., Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
omgwtf? According to my xbox, meltang is playing this NOW!
And I'm not. :((((((
― JimD, Thursday, 24 April 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Sorry guys.
― melton mowbray, Friday, 25 April 2008 02:47 (fifteen years ago) link
oh god you are gonna get XBLBanned :(
― Will M., Friday, 25 April 2008 03:54 (fifteen years ago) link
how is it?!
― czn, Friday, 25 April 2008 07:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh THAT's the chick. the stripper gamer chick.
― kingfish, Friday, 25 April 2008 07:14 (fifteen years ago) link
this one, in other words:
http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/article/709/709912/blog_fran_chobot.jpg
― kingfish, Friday, 25 April 2008 07:21 (fifteen years ago) link
haha melton you tease
― Ste, Friday, 25 April 2008 08:35 (fifteen years ago) link
am I going to be able to walk into a shop, in England, and buy this on Tuesday? The Internet seems to have sold out
― That mong guy that's shit, Friday, 25 April 2008 09:28 (fifteen years ago) link
i pre-ordered it on amazon, i can wait until it's available. Besides, i still don't have a telly yet.
― Ste, Friday, 25 April 2008 09:38 (fifteen years ago) link
but to answer your question, most probly not.
― Ste, Friday, 25 April 2008 09:39 (fifteen years ago) link
although there could be a chance that one of the smaller shop types will have a few copies around?
― Ste, Friday, 25 April 2008 09:40 (fifteen years ago) link
I am counting on you, Some Dude On E-Bay
― That mong guy that's shit, Friday, 25 April 2008 10:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I am almost irrationally excited about this game : /
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives/2008/04/23/gta_iv_okay_here_we_go.html
― czn, Friday, 25 April 2008 12:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Melton, you're crazy. UR GONNA GET BANNED
― antexit, Friday, 25 April 2008 12:34 (fifteen years ago) link
lol truth bomb
― czn, Friday, 25 April 2008 12:46 (fifteen years ago) link
see, naughty xbox owners. You don't see ps3 users up to this sort of shenanigans.
― Ste, Friday, 25 April 2008 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link
That Guardian article is great!
― hyggeligt, Friday, 25 April 2008 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link
stripper game chick?
― s1ocki, Friday, 25 April 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link
lots of teevee ads in the UK for the 360 version, have seen no teevee presence for the PS3.
i am totally getting this game, and my girl is hell of excited about it too. stevietonychick is my gamertag, for when we are all up and at 'em (some time next week, i'm guessing).
― stevie, Friday, 25 April 2008 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link
The big "pre-orders sold out!" thing is something that seems to happen with every new GTA. And yet come street date there are always HUNDREDS of copies around, I've never had trouble picking one up on day one (although to be fair I do work in games retail innit).
If nothing else, there are plenty of places who aren't even taking preorders. Are Tesco/Sainsburys/Asda etc doing them? Because they'll all have buckets of stock.
― JimD, Friday, 25 April 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
10/10 on IGN http://ps3.ign.com/articles/869/869541p1.html
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link
oooh how do they square that with this:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=134409
... I was thinking about this on the way home tho, there's probably so much money to be made in digg-effect ads and click-throughs by being the 'first' to post your online review that it totally justifies any blowback take two could potentially direct your way
― czn, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
this game gets 10/10 for the "heat" ref alone (in one of the trailers there is a vignette of a bank robbery and the robbers have AK47s and holdalls slung across their backs)
― czn, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
holy shit from the ign video review:
picking up a prostitute in your car comes replete with full 'cowboy'-style animation
I didn't follow it, but didn't they get in heaps of shit for the hot coffee thing?!!!
― czn, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link
http://img.skitch.com/20080425-jh4qt82i86eahyi6y69sifrdtq.jpghttp://img.skitch.com/20080425-t4fw8k3c52ub67qn78p93e8eb1.jpghttp://img.skitch.com/20080425-cw58d7r7j2pmxp99jsm3rd86f.jpg
― czn, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link
I was glad to finally hear somebody actually say the multiplayer was really fun (and actually worth the cost of the game alone).
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
This is the game that's going to make me finally buy an xbox360.
― Z S, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link
This is the game that makes me wonder if I should buy a PS3.
― polyphonic, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
This is the game I'm going to buy.
― s1ocki, Friday, 25 April 2008 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link
This is the game.
― The Yellow Kid, Saturday, 26 April 2008 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link
This.
― HI DERE, Saturday, 26 April 2008 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link
^
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 26 April 2008 02:08 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm pretty sure I'm just going to walk around town for the first week I own this.
― polyphonic, Saturday, 26 April 2008 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link
you're not even gonna bother to play it??
― s1ocki, Saturday, 26 April 2008 08:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Full soundtrack now up on Wiki
It's "meh" out of 10 for me...
― sonnypike, Saturday, 26 April 2008 09:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Did anyone post the xbox achievement list here yet? These might not be accurate (it's old leaked info) but if they are then they're great:
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/684082/GTA_4_Achievements_Leaked.html
180 in darts! Turkey in bowling! Beating a friend at pool! etc.
― JimD, Saturday, 26 April 2008 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Terry Riley - "A Rainbow in Curved Air" Liquid Liquid - "Optimo"
― czn, Saturday, 26 April 2008 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.justin.tv/jimmy_the_bum
some guy playing live; utterly useless tho and potential spoilers but tbh I've watched a bit and he hasn't done anything of any worth
: ?
― czn, Saturday, 26 April 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link
There's some cool stuff on the soundtrack, but I'm super bummed about the "hardcore punk" station. I was looking forward to it when I heard the Bad Brains were gonna be featured, instead it's just a bunch of meathead NYHC bullshit. I know it's supposed to be NYC, but COME ON.
― circa1916, Sunday, 27 April 2008 06:00 (fifteen years ago) link
It's actually really entertaining to listen to, especially with the knucklehead reactionary meatball DJ. Uh, I've heard it is, anyway.
― antexit, Sunday, 27 April 2008 10:10 (fifteen years ago) link
had a taste of this yesterday, i won't spoil anything for anyone suffice to say I think it's lovely.
my nephew works in a store and has managed to secure me a copy for my lovely new ps3 on tuesday! yay
― Ste, Sunday, 27 April 2008 10:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Played a bit of this round at my friend's bit last night and the driving was ultra-hard and the combat system seemed to have actually gotten worse!
― jim, Sunday, 27 April 2008 12:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Though of course I reserve judgment until I've played it for some extended period of time and it does look wonderful and crashing in to a low wall and going flying through your windscreen is fun.
― jim, Sunday, 27 April 2008 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link
My copy has shipped from Amazon (for 360). Bring it on!
― Euler, Sunday, 27 April 2008 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Gametrailers video review:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/33327.html
― circa1916, Sunday, 27 April 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link
my brother drove past gamestop today, and they were throwing out some big gta4 cardboard promo boxes. y'know, like they put on display in the window. so he took one. it looks nice next to our games.
― Creeztophair, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Ok, this is nuts - I've got another friend who has his copy early and is playing already, which means I can now compare my GTA4 achievments to his though xbox.com, which means I get to see the full list. And mostly it's the same as the one I posted upthread. But at the bottom is:
Let Sleeping Rockstars Lie Kill a Rockstar developer in a ranked multiplayer match.
!!!
― JimD, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Endangered Species - collect every hidden package
hmm, i think i saw a suspicious looking pigeon which might have been part of this (not saying where) - it didn't fly off when I got near. Unfortunately I died just before I could inspect further.
― Ste, Monday, 28 April 2008 00:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I am sad that from tomorrow on I won't be able to read this thread :(
― hyggeligt, Monday, 28 April 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link
why?
my telly has been shipped! Everything is almost complete!
― Ste, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link
am I mad to buy a temp xbox just to play.this game?
― czn, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Ste, I'm suffering from self-ban until I get my place painted and fixed up. Two weeks at most. I've never been so motivated!!!
Czn, no. No you are not. I might even buy the temporary one off you when you're done!*
*That is not a promise. Just the ranting of a desperate man!
― hyggeligt, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm sure I've never wanted to be a weekend over more. Sad really
― Jeff LeVine, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link
wanted a weekend to be over more. jeez
― Jeff LeVine, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
My local store now claims they're going to be kicking out copies this afternoon!
― Jeff LeVine, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm going to buy one and then return it for a refund when the xbox service center has got its finger out
: /
― czn, Monday, 28 April 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link
<A HREF="http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2008/04/playstation3-magazine-recommends-buying.html">This</A> is a pretty interesting turn for the books. Just wish I had either a PS3 or a 360... :(
― CraigG, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh well, that was some good formatting... You get the picture.
― CraigG, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link
hmm, that doesn't actually work. :) Try <A HREF="http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2008/04/playstation3-magazine-recommends-buying.html">this</A>
― CraigG, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
OH COME ON http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2008/04/playstation3-magazine-recommends-buying.html
http://www.afterelton.com/blog/lylemasaki/grand-theft-auto-iv-gay-niko-bellic
― Eric H., Monday, 28 April 2008 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link
http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1209377802639.gif
― czn, Monday, 28 April 2008 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link
wtf. just received a 'your GTA IV has been despatched' e-mail from tesco despite having cancelled the order and still having the money in my account... perhaps I'll get it for free?!
― czn, Monday, 28 April 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link
ugh - store called & now claims they're not getting the game till tomorrow morning. I guess somebody cracked down somewhere cause I also checked the place around here that ALWAYS breaks street dates (for an extra ten bucks) and no go :(
on the bright side, I'm now free to watch los lakers
― Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I have purchased mine, and am waiting to go pick it up.
So stoked.
― B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Craig, we use a weird version of UBB here, not html.
― kingfish, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Liberty Rock Radio 97.8
DJ: Iggy Pop Genre: Classic Rock[2] Tracklist: The Smashing Pumpkins - "1979" Steve Marriott's Scrubbers - "Cocaine" Godley & Creme - "Cry" The Sisters of Mercy - "Domination/Mother Russia" Stevie Nicks - "Edge of Seventeen" ELO - "Evil Woman" David Bowie - "Fascination" Q Lazzarus - "Goodbye Horses" Black Sabbath - "Heaven & Hell" Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band - "Her Strut" Iggy Pop - "I Wanna Be Your Dog" Thin Lizzy - "Jailbreak" Genesis - "Mama" Hello - "New York Groove" Queen - "One Vision" The Black Crowes - "Remedy" Joe Walsh - "Rocky Mountain Way" The Who - "The Seeker" Elton John - "Street Kids" Heart - "Straight On" ZZ Top - "Thug" R.E.M. - "Turn You Inside Out"
― kingfish, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 03:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Shipment Date: April 28, 2008 Destination: NEW ORLEANS, LA, US Estimated Arrival: April 29, 2008
yessssssssssssssss
now i have to stay up all night writing some bullshit about henry james to stay on my paper-writing schedule so i can play gta all motherfucking night tomorrow.
― adam, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link
I, unfortunately, am starting a trial on Thursday. Which means I will not be able to get a good 24 hour gameplay session in until this weekend, if at all, the FOLLOWING weekend. Crap.
― B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 03:35 (fifteen years ago) link
I went to asda on the old kent road at midnight, and I queued for about half an hour with ooh, maybe about 200 other people. Just as I got to the front of the queue, the woman processing the transactions shouted "just four left!" (xbox copies, she meant - PS3 had sold out much earlier). So I guess after me there were just three. Pretty lucky really.
And now it's 5.25am and I've played about 4 hours (maybe 2.5 of single player and 1.5 of multiplayer) and yes, this game is great.
― JimD, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link
updated!
The Beat 102.7
DJ: Mister Cee & DJ Green Lantern Genre: Contemporary Hip-Hop Tracklist:
* Styles P - "What's the Problem" * Busta Rhymes - "Where's My Money" * Swizz Beatz - "Top Down" * Kanye West featuring Dwele - "Flashing Lights" * Joell Ortiz featuring Jadakiss & Saigon - "Hip Hop (Remix)" * Fat Joe featuring Lil Wayne - "The Crackhouse" * DJ Green Lantern featuring Fabolous, Akon and Fat Joe - "I'm so Fly" * Styles P featuring Sheek Louch & Jadakiss - "Blow Your Mind (Remix)" * Nas - "War is Necessary"
Electrochoc
DJ: François K Genre: Electro house/Dance Tracklist:
* Padded Cell - "Signal Failure" * Black Devil - "The Devil in Us (Dub)" * One + One - "No Pressure (Deadmau5 Remix)" * Alex Gopher - "Brain Leech (Bugged Mind Remix)" * Simian Mobile Disco - "Tits & Acid" * Nitzer Ebb - "Let Your Body Learn" * Kavinsky - "Testarossa Autodrive (Sebastian Remix)" * Chris Lake vs. Deadmau5 - "I Thought Inside Out (Original Mix)" * Boys Noize - "& Down" * Justice - "Waters of Nazareth" * Killing Joke - "Turn to Red" * Playgroup - "Make It Happen" * Liquid Liquid - "Optimo"
Fusion FM
DJ: Roy Ayers Genre: Jazz fusion Tracklist:
* David McCallum - "The Edge" * Roy Ayers - "Funk in the Hole" * Gong - "Heavy Tune" * David Axelrod - "Holy Thursday" * Grover Washington, Jr. - "Knucklehead" * Aleksander Maliszewski - "Pokusa" * Ryo Kawasaki - "Raisins" * Marc Moulin - "Stomp" * Billy Cobham - "Stratus" * Tom Scott & The L.A. Express - "Sneakin' in the Back"
JNR Jazz Nation Radio
DJ: Roy Haynes Genre: Jazz Tracklist:
* Count Basie - "April in Paris" * John Coltrane - "Giant Steps" * Chet Baker - "Let's Get Lost" * Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers - "Moanin'" * Miles Davis - "Move" * Charlie Parker - "Night and Day" * Roy Haynes - "Snap Crackle" * Sonny Rollins - "St. Thomas" * Duke Ellington - "Take the "A" Train" * Dizzy Gillespie - "Whisper Not (Big Band)"
The Journey
DJ: A Computer Genre: Ambient/Chill out Tracklist:
* Global Communication - "8:07" * Terry Riley - "A Rainbow in Curved Air" * Steve Roach - "Arrival" * Michael Shrieve - "Communiqué 'Approach Spiral'" * Jean Michel Jarre - "Oxygene (Part IV)" * Philip Glass - "Pruitt-Igoe" * Tangerine Dream - "Remote Viewing" * Aphex Twin - "[z twig] aka [b+w stripes]" * Ray Lynch - "The Oh of Pleasure"
IF99 International Funk
DJ: Femi Kuti Genre: Funk & Afrobeat Tracklist:
* Lonnie Liston Smith - "A Chance for Peace" * War - "Galaxy" * The O'Jays - "Give the People What They Want" * Gil Scott-Heron - "Home Is Where the Hatred Is" * The Meters - "Just Kissed My Baby" * Mandrill - "Livin' It Up" * Manu Dibango - "New Bell" * Fela Kuti - "Sorrow, Tears & Blood" * Femi Kuti - "Truth Don Die" * Creative Source - "Who Is He and What Is He to You" * Hummingbird - "You Can't Hide Love" * Fela Kuti - "Zombie" * Isaac Hayes - "Walk On By"
K 109: The Studio
DJ: Karl Lagerfeld Genre: Disco Tracklist:
* Peter Brown - "Burning Love Breakdown" * Tamiko Jones - "Can't Live Without Your Love" * Gino Soccio - "Dancer" * Suzy Q - "Get On Up and Do It Again" * Elektrik Funk - "On a Journey" * Don Ray - "Standing in the Rain" * Cerrone - "Supernature" * Rainbow Brown - "Till You Surrender" * Harry Thumann - "Underwater" * Skatt Bros. - "Walk the Night"
L.C.H.C
DJ: Jimmy Gestapo Genre: Hardcore punk Tracklist:
* Murphy's Law - "A Day in the Life" * Maximum Penalty - "All Your Boyz" * Underdog - "Back to Back" * Leeway - "Enforcer * Cro-Mags - "It's the Limit" * Sheer Terror - "Just Can't Hate Enough" * Tokio Hotel - "Cutting Myself To Sleep" * Killing Time - "Tell Tale"
Summary: Libery City Hardcore is a punk and hardcore music station hosted by Jimmy Gestapo, lead singer of New York based hardcore punk band Murphy's Law.
LRR 97.8 Liberty Rock Radio
DJ: Iggy Pop Genre: Classic rock Tracklist:
* The Smashing Pumpkins - "1979" * Steve Marriott - "Cocaine" * Godley & Creme - "Cry" * The Sisters of Mercy - "Dominion/Mother Russia" * Stevie Nicks - "Edge of Seventeen" * Electric Light Orchestra - "Evil Woman" * David Bowie - "Fascination" * Q Lazzarus - "Goodbye Horses" * Black Sabbath - "Heaven and Hell" * Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band - "Her Strut" * The Stooges - "I Wanna Be Your Dog" * Thin Lizzy - "Jailbreak" * Genesis - "Mama" * Hello - "New York Groove" * Queen - "One Vision" * The Black Crowes - "Remedy" * Joe Walsh - "Rocky Mountain Way" * The Who - "The Seeker" * Elton John - "Street Kids" * Heart - "Straight On" * ZZ Top - "Thug" * R.E.M. - "Turn You Inside Out"
Massive B Soundsystem
DJ: Bobby Konders Genre: Dancehall Tracklist:
* Burro Banton - "B * Choppa Chop - "Set It Off" * Mavado - "Real McKoy featuring Busy Signal" * Jabba
Radio Broker
DJ: Juliette Lewis Genre: Indie rock Tracklist:
* The Boggs - "Arm in Arm (Shy Child Mix)" * Cheeseburger - "Cocaine" * Get Shakes - "Disneyland, Pt. 1" * LCD Soundsystem - "Get Innocuous!" * The Prairie Cartel - "Homicyde" * Juliette and the Licks - "Inside the Cage (David Gilmour Girls Remix)" * Unkle featuring The Duke Spirit - "Mayday" * The Rapture - "No Sex for Ben" * Tom Vek - "One Horse Race" * Teenager - "Pony" * Justice - "D.A.N.C.E" * Les Savy Fav - "Rage in the Plague Age" * White Light Parade - "Riot in the City" * Deluka - "Sleep Is Impossible" * The Black Keys - "Strange Times" * The Pistolas - "Take It With a Kiss" * Ralph Myerz and the Jack Herren Band - "The Teacher" * The Greenskeepers - "Vagabond" * The Hives - "Hate To Say I Told You So" * !!! - "Yadnus (Still Going to the Roadhouse Mix)" * The Shins - "Australia"
San Juan Sounds
DJ: Kazzanova Genre: Reggaeton Tracklist:
* Calle 13 - "Atrévete-te-te" * Daddy Yankee - "Impacto" * Hector El Father - "Maldades" * Voltio featuring Jowell y Randy - "Pónmela" * Don Omar - "Salio El Sol" * Wisin & Yandel - "Sexy Movimiento" * Tito El Bambino - "Siente El Boom (Remix)" * Angel y Khriz - "Ven Baílalo"
Tuff Gong
DJ: Carl Bradshaw Genre: Reggae/Dub Tracklist:
* Stephen Marley - "Chase Dem" * Bob Marley & The Wailers - "Concrete Jungle (The Unreleased Original Jamaican Version)" * Bob Marley & The Wailers - "Pimper's Paradise" * Bob Marley & The Wailers - "Rat Race" * Bob Marley & The Wailers - "Rebel Music (3 O'Clock Roadblock)" * Bob Marley & The Wailers - "Satisfy My Soul" * Bob Marley & The Wailers - "So Much Trouble in the World" * Bob Marley & The Wailers - "Stand Up Jamrock" * Bob Marley & The Wailers - "Wake Up and Live"
The Vibe 98.8
DJ: Vaughn Harper Genre: R&B Tracklist:
* Ne-Yo - "Because of You" * R. Kelly - "Bump n' Grind" * Mtume - "C.O.D. (I'll Deliver)" * Alexander O'Neal - "Criticize" * RAMP - "Daylight" * The Isley Brothers - "Footsteps in the Dark" * Jodeci - "Freek'n You" * Lloyd - "Get It Shawty" * Jill Scott - "Golden" * Loose Ends - "Hangin' on a String (Contemplating)" * Freddie Jackson - "Have You Ever Loved Somebody" * Dru Hill - "In My Bed (So So Def Remix)" * Marvin Gaye - "Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler)" * Minnie Riperton - "Inside My Love" * Barry White - "It's Only Love Doing It's Thing" * C.J. - "I Want You" * The SOS Band - "Just Be Good to Me" * Ginuwine - "Pony" * Raheem DeVaughn - "You"
Vladivostok FM
DJ: Ruslana Genre: Eastern European music Tracklist:
* Ruslana - "Wild Dances (Ukranian FM Version)" * Kino - "Gruppa Krovi" * Marakesh - "Zhdat" * Zvery - "Kvartira" * Seryoga - "King Ring" * Seryoga - "Liberty City: The Invasion" * Splean - "Liniya Zhizni" * Basta - "Mama" * Leningrad - "Nikogo Ne Zhalko" * Ranetki Girls - "O Tebe" * Dolphin - "RAP" * Glukoza - "Schweine" * Oleg Kvasha - "Zelenoglazoe Taksi (Club Mix)"
Summary: Vladivostok FM is an Eastern European music station hosted by Eurovision Song Contest 2004 winner Ruslana. The name is taken from Russian city Vladivostok.
Other Known Music
* There are songs that only play in the interior of buildings. These include:
* Rick James - "Come Into My Life" * Rick Ross - "Hustlin'" * Goldfrapp - "Ooh La La" * Mystikal - "Shake Ya Ass" * Niall Toner Band - "A Real Real" * k*ll*an's Angels - "Celtic High Step" * Blink 182 confirmed on kerrang.com * Rick Ross - "The Boss" * The theme song used in the game is called "Soviet Connection (The Theme from Grand Theft Auto IV)" by Michael Hunter.
― kingfish, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 07:08 (fifteen years ago) link
haha JimD that was pretty lucky.
My situation is : day off work today to wait in for telly delivery, game should be with my sister already will pick up later, but have to go back into work at some point to pick up HD cable which should be delivered there today.
awful that i have to wait on all these seperate outcomes.
― Ste, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 09:21 (fifteen years ago) link
(what could possibly go wrong?)
I'm buying this today or wii fit if i can find either of them. so conflicted. argh!
― Dy, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 09:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Favourite radio station so far is The Journey: I drove down to Coney Island (I was there in real life a couple of months ago, and in game it feels exactly the same), and just as I arrived Global Communication's 8.07 came on the radio (which is one of my all time favourites), so I sat in my car and watched the sunrise, and it all felt lovely.
The bits of Vladivostok I've heard have been great too.
― JimD, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 09:32 (fifteen years ago) link
tesco across the road sold out within 30mins; woolworth within 1 hr.
games shop in town has 'plenty' stock but I have to wait till 3 o'clock till I can go bag it : ///
― czn, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 09:53 (fifteen years ago) link
will be playing this all day today. my gamertag is haeretico, add me to yr buddies!
― ledge, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Whither Reg Delmot?
― JimD, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link
he's decided to take his work back underground... to stop it falling into the wrong hands...
― ledge, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 12:14 (fifteen years ago) link
now open:
http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/
― czn, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 12:52 (fifteen years ago) link
telly arrived!
but no cable, drat.
― Ste, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 12:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Ste - I forgot that as expensive as the ps3 is, sony is still too cheap to throw in an hdmi cable, or even their component cables. considering they are selling the thing specifically based on it's hd output - wow
― Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link
i know, cheeky devils.
ah well, at least i can watch the football tonight if nothing else
(sob gibber etc)
― Ste, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link
just bought my copy!
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Holy shit, this game is awesome. As I have a RIDICULOUS amount of work to do this week, I probably won't get to actually do some serious gameplay (put in about 1 hour last night after getting it at midnight), but damnit if its not going to sit there, taunting me.
I will post a report on the scene outside the video game store if I get a chance. Just hilarious.
― B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Pre-ordered the sucker -- gonna go pick it up right now (& let it sit in my car for four hours)! SO STOKED YOU GUYS
― David R., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Is this station for real? Could they not even be bothered to try and find another reggae artist?
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link
antexit picked up a copy for me WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link
polyphonic, it's called Tuff Gong Radio. i.e. it's the Bob Marley station. There is a whole nother station of dub and dancehall.
― antexit, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link
gotta split now, but i've been playing cops n crooks for the last couple of hours. holy shit it's awesome crazy random fun.
― ledge, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Holy shit only 90 more minutes!
― David R., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Fuck, I want to go home like right now and kill some people.
― B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I think i'm gonna cave and get an xbox 360 for this finally.
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Finally got my copy during my lunch break. Still 4.5 hours till I can get home to try it out though :(
If anybody new wants to add me to their ps3 friends list and try out some multiplayer perhaps, my tag is jefflev13
― Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link
The packaging is really nice - I even liked folding out and looking at the map. How does the subway work? Is it like skate where you enter the station than magically appear across town at the next station's exit or do you really ride across town in the train (like in III)?
― Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Haven't tried the subway yet...
top tip for cops n crooks: navigation. If yer a crook, when you get in a car, set up a way point to yr destination asap. If yr a cop, and not driving, get up the mapscreen to tell yr driver the quickest way to get to the crooks.
― ledge, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link
The three shops on Sauchiehall street (Game, Gamestation and HMV) that I tried on my lunch hour today were all sold out. I am in a world of hurt.
― jim, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Well not really, I just went out and ate a big steak so I'm feeling no bad.
I braved the unwashed masses of Fisherman's Wharf to go buy this, only to discover that the store I was looking had gone out of business. Goddamn you, Google Street View.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link
+for
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link
And mine is DenaSmith.
See you in LC, brah.
― B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 29 April 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link
apparently g force on union street had plenty for 360, jim
probably sold out now tho...
places that will sell it: zavvi, hmv, gamestation, game, wh smith, argos, pc world, supermarkets... am I forgetting anywhere?
― czn, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link
my xbox 360 gamertag is cozeny
Ah damnit, Cozen. Had a half hour lunch and was up Charing X way, could only get down Sauchiehall street before I had to turn back. Ah, well I'm going away this weekend so I'm only missing tomorrow night and Thursday gaming for the next few days. Hopefully I'll find it somewhere soonish. Might try a mad dash round after work tomorrow.
― jim, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link
all of sudden i really want this game. Unfortunately all my money was spent on court costs this morning for traffic violations. ooooh, what a cathartic experience GTAIV would be right now.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
You know what, these single player missions are dark. I'm almost holding back from progressing in the main game because it feels like things are just going to get worse and worse for Niko. And it feels like it's nighttime about 65% of the time, and I keep getting awful weather, fog and thunderstorms and stuff, so even when it's day it's not often light, and...wow. (I'm also starting to worry that some of the fun of beating on innocent bystanders etc is lessened by the new, more realistic aesthetic. I'm feeling more guilty about running over pedestrians etc that I usually do).
Hopefully Alonquin will be a nicer place to hang out.
― JimD, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link
-- forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:23 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
― caek, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link
lol @ ps3 version being gay
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link
EGM was also telling ppl to get the 360 version
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link
i am sick and i just want to lay around playing this but i hav no xbox and no gta - someone bring them 2 me
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 00:39 (fifteen years ago) link
I've played both versions, there's no difference ?
The subways are pretty cool, being able to move the camera about when your riding them. And the womans voice announcing the next station.
Major moment for me tonight was causing havoc in the airport. The graphics on the jumbo jets are fantastic. Riding around in one of those wierd airport trucks with the big wheels. All manor of cop activity on my tail as I just continued to loop around the huuuge runways. And then driving into all the baggage trailers with airport staff scattering for safety. and cool at Patriot police trucks.
― Ste, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 01:58 (fifteen years ago) link
and crikey your vehicles don't half get some damage done to them, at one point my front wheels were pointing in opposite directions after a rather fatal gas station explosion ripped the front out of my car.
I've already irked Michelle by cancelling dates, if all she plays in the game is taking me to bloody cafe's and wine bars then they can fuck right off.
― Ste, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:09 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2008/04/gta-iv-truth-will-out.html
LOLOL
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Fuck, first HD-DVD dies and now this? Screw it, I'm going back to VHS and Atari.
― Eric H., Wednesday, 30 April 2008 02:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Then again ...
http://kotaku.com/384422/which-version-of-gta-iv-should-you-buy-we-compare-the-ps3-and-360-versions http://kotaku.com/385237/gta-iv-runs-at-630p-on-playstation-3-so-whats-that-mean
― Eric H., Wednesday, 30 April 2008 03:17 (fifteen years ago) link
it seems fine to me!
antexit was over tonight and said he saw no diff from his xbox version, if anything it looked a little better. pixel-counting is for losers
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 05:43 (fifteen years ago) link
anyway so far so fun. i like it.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 05:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Slocki - were you able to get the multiplayer features to work? Over here in California it wouldn't seem to connect to the network (many tries over the course of the night). I'm not surprised but I was really looking forward to trying it out online - hopefully they'll get that ironed out shortly (by the weekend?).
I played about three hours solo though - not much screwing around - just looking at stuff & doing ten or so missions. At first I was a little disappointed that the graphics weren't better - they don't seem to quite have the next gen sheen I was expecting - but then sometimes, you do see things that look really great. The city also seems really big - lots to see. It does look a little muddy at times, but maybe that's just Brooklyn? I was surprised you can't get out of there yet - for some reason I though the whole map was open from the get-go. Most of the characters walking down the streets look good - they're surprisingly well animated (compared to previous games). I think what impressed me the most so far is just the weird weight of the game - it feels much more grounded - less floaty.
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 06:31 (fifteen years ago) link
crazed killer spin-offs starting again! will the video game nasties ever let us be?!!?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7373348.stm
Stab attack at Grand Theft queue
A man was stabbed in front of a queue of people waiting to buy the latest edition of a computer game. - Page last updated at 13:28 GMT, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 14:28 UKE-mail this to a friend Printable version -
Up to 100 people witnessed the knife attack outside the Gamestation store in Croydon, ahead of Monday's midnight release of Grand Theft Auto IV.
Police said the 23-year-old victim was walking past the queue when he was stabbed several times by a hooded man who appeared to be waiting in line.
The victim was treated in hospital and has since been allowed home.
After the attack at about 2300 BST in George Street the victim did not call the emergency services but police were informed by a member of the public.
He was found not far from the store and taken to hospital where he was treated for several stab wounds.
'Many' witnesses
Det Insp Liz Baker urged anyone who was in the queue to contact them.
She said: "We are looking at CCTV from the area and believe there were in the region of 50 to 100 people in the queue.
"We are sure many of them will have seen what happened."
The suspect is described as being a light skinned black man aged about 21, 6ft 5ins tall, of medium build wearing a light grey hooded top.
Grand Theft Auto IV went on sale at midnight at selected shops in the UK.
It was expected to break records for the fastest-selling game of all time .
― kingfish, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 06:46 (fifteen years ago) link
And now word has it on Ars Technica of reports of UPS guys stealing the game out of shipments. Jack Thompson was RIGHT; this game does cause crime!;
― kingfish, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 07:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm really excited for this game. I can't wait to eat the virtual world's best pizza.
― jeff, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 07:30 (fifteen years ago) link
okay I have Friday off, and its' bank holiday on monday. This weekend is going to be brutal.
― Ste, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 08:56 (fifteen years ago) link
There's also a great report about a guy assaulting a clerk in San Diego to steal the GTA IV "game cartridges". (note I'm not even going to try making fancy tags this time after the shambles upthread): http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_9098579
― CraigG, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 12:17 (fifteen years ago) link
lol at Little Jericho! I can't understand a fickin word he says lol
I think what impressed me the most so far is just the weird weight of the game - it feels much more grounded - less floaty.
Yes, it's the same feeling I got when I first played San Andreas, compared to the previous games it had become a lot more 'real'.
nice touch - hearing the radio from outside the car.
― Ste, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link
(which was my idea and I'm sure R* nicked it from my blog many years ago)
― Ste, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 12:31 (fifteen years ago) link
am struggling to get the hang of handbrake turns - massive oversteer every time.
― ledge, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 12:49 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm JUST getting the turns right now. Come all the way off the gas way before the turn, tap the brake as you steer into the turn, tap the handbrake about halfway through to fishtail around, and then give it the gas again.
― antexit, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I just unlocked Algonquin btw. Trying to decide whether to go for it or stay in Broker for awhile, getting used to it geographically before I totally get lost in the city.
Oh and how fucking dark is this game! You do some pretty fucked-up stuff in it! I almost wish you could opt out of some of the missions, like the Brucie internet dating mission.
― antexit, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link
How long do you think it took you?
― Ste, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Ten hours, about. With a good bit of fucking around.
― antexit, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I agree with the darkness. Last night, after finishing the early loan shark mission, I got a knife. I then got run over by a truck, and died (seems to happen a lot...the cars always stopped in earlier GTA games).
Once out of the hospital, I saw a nurse who said, and I quote "Time to clean the bedpans!"
I stabbed her to death outside of the hospital, and before I could realize how massively fucked up that was, I had added $250 to my bankroll.
From then, it was all stabbings and beatings for three hours.
Christ, I wish I had a long weekend.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I love the fact that I dinged up a potential GF's car on the way to the bowling alley, beat her in bowling, dropped her off, charmed her enough to get her to consider future dates, and got her car, too! Only in America!
― David R., Wednesday, 30 April 2008 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link
i agree that the grafx aren't spectacular... but they are beautifully designed with lots of nice moments. it would be hard to create a world that big and detailed and keep up the level of graphical detail you see in something like uncharted. on the other hand, art direction trumps graphic power for me every time.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link
getting used to it geographically before I totally get lost in the city.
Kinda what I was doing all last night, but I'm still completely lost!
This map seems so much more condensed than previous games, and I'm loving that you can climb (most) fire escapes and things like ladders.
and WOW at motorbike helmet wearing, which seems totally optional depending on if you pause after mounting a bike. WOW
Everythings costing too much money at the moment, I came across a homeless chap on the beach. It said "press L1 to give him a few dollars", when I pressed it I'd gone and fucking given him TEN dollars!
― Ste, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah slocki otm. GTA games have never pushed machines graphically, it's all about their design rather than ooh how detailed can we get the textures.
And with all the other areas of gameplay that need attention in GTA games, it's now wonder anyway that a compromise has to be met.
― Ste, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link
'no wonder'
― Ste, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link
(i'm not a geordie)
Yeah about the helmets and have you noticed yet that the helmet makes a huge difference in whether or not you die from high-impact crashes on the bikes? I had a helmetless one this morning where I t-boned a cop car going like 100, flew off an overpass into the wall of the building below, and fell 40 feet onto a parked car. That probably would have killed me even with a helmet, though.
One thing this game really needed: saveable replays, and better still some kind of community hub for them like in Halo 3 or Skate.
― antexit, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link
oh I never noticed that. Time to experiment with bike crashes then.
and the colour changes to match weather and time of day are fucking delicious in this game!
― Ste, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link
would be good if you could take pics on your handi and upload them to the social club... so many times I've seen a dude and thought woah he looks funny
I had sex, but I don't think she was into it
― czn, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link
loll
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link
also I cannot understand a single word little jacob says
― czn, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link
he's pretty cool though
― Ste, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link
(in a character creation sense, not in a 'oh you are really cool' way)
― Ste, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link
brian is hilarious!!
― czn, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link
i really didnt find him that hard to understand!
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link
omg i ws totally sceptical bt the multiplayer is so much fun!!!
― czn, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes - it was finally working this morning. Being able to do free roam was cool - just to see more of the city - times square looks amazing. I only had time for two deathmatches and while it didn't seem very competitive, it was crazy fun. In the first game I happened to spawn right near a rocket launcher - which was quite the advantage - loved seeing a guy driving a car to run me over then launching a rocket at him and turning his car into a giant fireball
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link
FUCK YOU, SOME GUY ON E-BAY
― That mong guy that's shit, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link
And now word has it on Ars Technica of reports of UPS guys stealing the game out of shipments.
oh god, don't tell me that! game's still in transit.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I really enjoyed the first taxi and train rides - the game really looks best when you can just sit back like that and watch.
Also the only station I've been listening to is The Journey
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link
hey this game is pretty good
― adam, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link
sold out in central london, heavy sigh...
― stevie, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link
For a large number of people, I'm betting that Bush Tax Refund Checks = New Console + GTA IV
I know at least three that have done this within the last two days.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 30 April 2008 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link
mailman just came by, no package today. DAMN
― Euler, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Didn't Bush originally run for office promising "a murder simulator for every home"?
― antexit, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link
There's...SO...many just horrible jokes that could be made here.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 30 April 2008 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Ok, I give up, can someone point me towards an armour spawn?
Oh, and do you get extra wanted stars now simply because a cop sees you? I managed to get 3 after punching a bloke once and being chased for it for a few blocks. I quite like the way you have to escape from them in this game though.
― limón, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Are you sure you didn't run over a cop on the way from punching the guy? I haven't ever gotten over two stars without killing a cop. And yeah the escaping from the cops is way better
― antexit, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe, I don't know where the third one came from though.
― limón, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Early spoilers ok now???
Failed the early mission where you chase a guy up to the top of a construction site because I didn't notice he was hanging off the edge, which I managed to run right past, falling to my death.
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link
SPOILERS
I think early spoilers are OK now...
― czn, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Not for some :( I'll stop reading from now on.
― jim, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't actually read that spoiler though, so thanks for the heads up.
― jim, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
2 separate threads? : /
did you get a copy, jim? I had a real nightmare trying to find one
― czn, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
i like how much more visceral the gunplay is in this one though it kind of cuts down on the pleasure taken from murder sprees.
― adam, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
i really appreciate that it draws a best route for you to take on the mini map, so you don't have to keep switching up to the big map & thinkin' about if you have to go left or right & getting lost. It's a big help. I do however wish the mini-map was a little bigger. I guess they didn't want to take up a lot of screen real-estate, but that thing is too small
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
-- czn
Ended up not being able to go out looking at lunchtime and had a doctor's appointment straight after work. Working 'til 6 tomorrow as well. Might check on my lunch hour but doubt anyone will have either a) Still stock left from yesterday or b) will have had a restock of it since selling out yesterday.
The long national nightmare continues.
― jim, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Actually might just get my friend to do a certain not quite legal thing to my Xbox so I can play it tomorrow.
― jim, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
love: - the in-car SatNav/GPS on some of the fancier cars - toll bridges!
― czn, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Aah, I think you get extra stars if you don't outrun the cops quickly enough.
― limón, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
i also really like the cover system. like everything else in gta games, it is not perfect but running from car to car, spraying bullets at the police, trying to make it to the alleyways to effect your escape... nice.
― adam, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
satnav does offer some crazy routes sometimes (but perhaps r* didn't fancy spending a lot of time coding a cutting-edge system).
I think I'm getting way more lols out of the multiplayer right now. Cops n crooks is still the best but the races are pretty fun. And try and do a deathmatch in the airport... where there are three helicopter gunships available.
― ledge, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link
lol, same here.
finally opened up the second island, the place is pretty awesome especially when viewed from a chopper.
I found some armour on the beach but fuck knows if i can remember where abouts.
I'm adoring the combat system, the cover feature is brilliant and the last few missions I've done with it have felt really satisfying to complete.
Almost smashed it to be bits though, for the mission where go get a car for Brucie. He's fucking hilarious!
― Ste, Thursday, 1 May 2008 08:29 (fifteen years ago) link
gawd i just can't be arsed to do the 'dates' with my contacts, am i going to miss out on anything?
but i kinda like LJ and so last night i agreed to go play pool with him, but i was stuck on the second island. I thought I'd try my hand at using the subway, so out came the foldaway map. After completely going in the wrong direction I ended up in uptown. Then scrambling around subways looking for the flippin J line, by which time LJ had cancelled.
I tried ringing him back for a game of darts, but he blew me out lol.
this game is too real!
― Ste, Thursday, 1 May 2008 09:40 (fifteen years ago) link
body armor in Broker: take road East from Soldier Monument (i think that's what it's called - the one with the circle around it) and on the first block there's a Y-shaped alleyway to your left. inside that is a building with a gate out front - go inside the gate to the right, and there is a respawning body armor tucked in the corner.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 1 May 2008 12:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Thank you!
Ste, you definitely want to keep up the friendships in the game. I don't know about the other guys or the gfs, but Roman gives you a free car service you can call from anywhere, and LJ will show up to a location you specify with a trunk full of gunz.
― antexit, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Thanks, I got Romans, but he still rings. Do i have to keep taking him out, will he take away the free car option if I don't?
LJ sounds more useful
― Ste, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I do however wish the mini-map was a little bigger.
as someone who always gets completely overwhelmed by these sandbox games I could not agree more. it would also be convenient to have active locations made a little more apparent on either the minimap or the actual map - I missed a date with Michelle last night b/c I was driving around like WHERE IN THE FUCK AM I EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE GOING WHAT ARE ALL THESE ICONS WHICH ONE IS MICHELLE WAS I SUPPOSED TO TURN THERE ARGH
but then again I make no claims to be anything other than a GTArd - is there a way to set navigation points like in Assassin's Creed? and if so, will the GPS plot a course for you to it/them?
― jamescobo, Thursday, 1 May 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, go to the map and you can set a waypoint, then if you're in a car it'll plot the GPS route.
Heh, I've just worked out what the hidden packages are :).
― limón, Thursday, 1 May 2008 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I've just been blowing all my money on taxis - I must've laid down £2k at least today on taxis alone
― czn, Thursday, 1 May 2008 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link
man at Game told me today they won't be getting stock again till two weeks time, at the very earliest. yikes! hoping to snag a review copy this weekend, but otherwise - the dudes selling the game on amazon marketplace, they're a bad idea, right?
― stevie, Thursday, 1 May 2008 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link
this is pretty fun. i'll have to take the day off tomorrow so i can really dig into this.
― jeff, Thursday, 1 May 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link
oh hell yes my package just arrived so I will be on tonight, hoping to slay a few of you bastards
― Euler, Thursday, 1 May 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I re-post - for those of you on PS3, my name is DenaSmith
Lets go kill some people.
― B.L.A.M., Friday, 2 May 2008 03:26 (fifteen years ago) link
as usual my ps3 just can't see my broadband, the same problems occured with my psp. oh well.
yes, i now have over 10 hidden packages. fuck there's a lot.
― Ste, Friday, 2 May 2008 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link
i enjoyed this game a lot tonight.
― s1ocki, Friday, 2 May 2008 07:32 (fifteen years ago) link
that motorcycle gang mission was hard! had to re-do it a bunch of times.
best moment so far, head-on crash with some other car, both the driver and passenger fly thru the windshield simultaneously.
SPOILER
was that the Mr F mission? Mine ended with a shoutout in a park, my bike ended up with no tyers.
big sesh today whilst i'm off. I have already a lot of ideas i want to check out.
haha last night, I tried to take LJ out for a drink in my helicopter but ended up slicing him up with the blades trying to park it. Then five minutes later he rings me asking for a lift from the hostpital, so we were cool again lol.
fucking love street races, the high performance cars are shit hot.
― Ste, Friday, 2 May 2008 08:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Mr F = Mentally Retarded Female?
― Raw Patrick, Friday, 2 May 2008 08:28 (fifteen years ago) link
yeh the faustin motorbike mission was tricky!!
brucie is hilarious but I coulda done without the bait and switch no homo mission. the game really blurs the lines sometimes
― czn, Friday, 2 May 2008 09:09 (fifteen years ago) link
fuck manny
SPOILER? not really
So I just completed the kill Lyle Rivas mission after about six tries - by the end I was ready to kill someone IRL. Reminded me that I actually have a love-hate relationship with this game, and man that was one hateful mission.
― ledge, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link
And Ste is otm about the relationship management. I wish people would stop ringing me all the time! I keep on feeling pressured to do stuff when really I just want to spend all day driving around like a bastard.
― ledge, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Just like real life!
― ledge, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link
IGN and 1Up went talked about how great the story was...don't know what I was expecting but it's the same embarrassingly bad dialogue as is found in the GTA3 sequels. GTA3 got it right by making the main character mute.
― calstars, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:47 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't know where this "bad dialogue" thing is coming from, as the games from III forward seem to do just fine in the dialogue dept. Tho that might be as much about the acting as anything.
Love Jacob & my idiot cousin (& even Vlad). Also love stealing a car in front of cops I didn't see, zooming around the city to get out of their range (while causing max property damage), and then slowing down long enough once I'm in the clear for the passenger THAT I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE WAS IN THE CAR THE WHOLE TIME to get out of the car & stumble away. I missed GTA.
Also love that, while tooling around, I found a "friend" on the street. Stop & talk to this guy that starts busting on me about his being rich and me being some sort of chump, then he gives me $100 and walks away. Thanks!
― David R., Friday, 2 May 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^^^^^^OTM. I was like "What the fuck is Jamie Kennedy doing giving me $100?"
I think I rememer reading somewhere that the dialogue or story was "Oscar caliber."
― B.L.A.M., Friday, 2 May 2008 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link
as soon as I got the cell phone last night I hopped on multi and had a blast (literally): I like deathmatch-type stuff but I really appreciate the "realistic" environment of GTA more than sci-fi setups like Unreal or Halo. And the rocket launcher brings the lols. I did a team deathmatch that was awesome too. Tonight I think I'll try a cops and crooks.
I don't have a good feeling for which of you are playing on 360, but I'll try to keep my eyes open.
― Euler, Friday, 2 May 2008 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link
the dialogue is great!
― s1ocki, Friday, 2 May 2008 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link
The dialogue for me is hit and miss, but hits much more often than any other video game I can think of. Still think the lip-sync in some of the cut scenes could use more work, and wish someone could figure out how to make the mouths of video game characters look more normal. Also, given how sophisticated the physics engine is, some of the characters still move around like hilarious robots with flesh-colored cinder blocks for hands.
Some of the vocal performances are really solid, and Niko is very likable. He reminds me of the moments when my dog seems to say, "Hey dude, I killed this rat for you!" Even his evil moments seem good-intentioned, somehow.
― polyphonic, Friday, 2 May 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
1. Shooting from moving cars while driving, while still not perfect, has been much improved. 2. The pool mini game is pretty good - shot about as well as I do in real life i.e. I lost 3. 2 trips to the Cabaret Club have been unbearable - hopefully I won't need to go there again. 4. Mercifully there has yet to be a mission involving loading a truck with a forklift!!! :) 5. Not really feeling the multiplayer after initially being into it - still haven't tried out all the modes though. 6. I did enjoy free roam - grabbing a helicopter and flying over the city at night... it's damn good looking. 7. City is BIG - and feels more and more real. I'm really impressed with the little things & that nothing really feels generic. Starting to learn my way around and recognizing the sights is fun. First drive across a bridge into new territory was a real joy.
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 2 May 2008 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link
there's a tall observation tower style building as part of the world's fair complex in Meadows Park. the view across to 'Algonquin' from the very top was really really awesome, which sounds like a retarded thing to say about a video game, but there you go. sunset was amazing.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 2 May 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
fucking sold out everywhere, innit.
― Dy, Friday, 2 May 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link
sometime this summer, i'll finally break down and get a 360 to play this. the chat about missions being hard is warming my heart.
― gff, Friday, 2 May 2008 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link
huh? so far the mission have been quite easy (though I'm not super far into the game, maybe 10%?)
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 2 May 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link
slocki and czn and them, saying something was hard, i dunno.
no point to this post other than to say, have fun gents, see you later when i get around to this
― gff, Friday, 2 May 2008 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link
The missions have been easy so far. 'Ivan the Not So Terrible,' which features a high-speed jump through the Grand Army Plaza arch, being the most challenging thus far (still in Brooklyn).
― calstars, Friday, 2 May 2008 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Bummed you can't go into the Brooklyn Library.
― calstars, Friday, 2 May 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Found an ilicit way into Manhattan.
― calstars, Friday, 2 May 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
fucking hell, i'm going to end up buying a 360 for this, i can just tell. and i forswore gaming two years ago :(
― grimly fiendish, Saturday, 3 May 2008 11:42 (fifteen years ago) link
i got the widely-reported load screen freeze of death last night. checked the ps3 forum and people were saying they had spoken to take two and had been given a laundry list of things they had to disable on their machines and in the game AND were told they had to delete all of their saved game and profile info for the game. by this point i had already deleted my autosave because i assumed it was corrupted somehow, and i had a recent regular save too to fall back on. that didn't fix the problem - as before, the game started up fine until it got to the mission loading screen and then it just sat there. so i got into a bit of a panic and started deleting back through my saved games (DISCLAIMER: I had been drinking) and ended up deleting all gta4-related files on my HD, as per take two recommendation. couldn't even start a new game. so i took a look at this list of things they said to disable and i decided to go through one by one, starting with disabling internet connection. and what do you fucking know, that was all it was. i just had to sign out of ps3 online and everything was rosy. but by this point, everything was gone.
so in conclusion: lol @ me, lol @ fucking developers, and for the xboxers, lol @ ps3.
KIDS - don't get drunk and delete your saved games. however much of a good idea it seems at the time, you will prob regret it. this has been a public service announcement courtesy of Bobby S.
― Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 3 May 2008 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Roberto, which mission was this on?
Someone at work told me this was an issue with older PS3s.
― calstars, Saturday, 3 May 2008 13:29 (fifteen years ago) link
for me it was after the first street race mission with Brucie, No. 1, but reading other people's posts on forums it has been happening on any number of different missions, so it doesn't look like a factor. the machine version/age looks like a red herring too although at first people were speculating it was a 6oGB thing, which is what i have. it has definitely been affecting other nmodels too, though. disconnecting from the internet seems to be working across the board though. i don;t know if it;'s a ps3 network wthing or if they'll need to release a patch. personally i'm too consumed with the 1p to even think about online multiplayer right now, esp with having to redo all of the missions i already beat. but i will never get back the hours and hours of pontless wandering and random baseball-bat beatings :(
― Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 3 May 2008 13:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Calstars, you're still basically in the training levels if you're not much past the Ivan mission-- it does get quite a lot harder pretty fast. And more fun. Lots of Niko vs. 50 guys type missions.
― antexit, Saturday, 3 May 2008 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah I suck at these things, it took me 8 tries to do the one where you beat up the Albanians and then chase them in the car. I'm bad with the cars so far. I did a multi race in helicopters last night and I was even worse in them than in cars. But I'm ok in deathmatch, and wow is that fun! once I get a little better I'll try some of the other modes.
― Euler, Saturday, 3 May 2008 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Do it Grimly. You can come over and play it first if you like. But then you'll buy it.
― stet, Saturday, 3 May 2008 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link
hang on, does that mean you've taken possession of your girlfriend's console and copy of GTA? heh
― grimly fiendish, Saturday, 3 May 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link
i was freezing up like CRAZY last night and i was furious... FURIOUS... but ya disabling the internet connection worked.
there was NO WAY IN HELL i was going to go thru that idiotic 12-step bullshit list. am amazed that rockstar's QC is so bad they managed to ship a completely broken game. it's terrible.
― s1ocki, Saturday, 3 May 2008 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean did they even test it in actual consoles before they put it out??
― s1ocki, Saturday, 3 May 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link
This thread has convinced me to wait for the bugs to work out and the inevitable summer (winter?) 360 price drop. They're going to have to come down a bit to compete with the wii for christmas, right? I mean, what other system sellers are due out on the xbox in the next six months?
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 3 May 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
FALL OUT THREE
― jamescobo, Saturday, 3 May 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
pretty sure it's actually four dude
http://www.100xr.com/100_XR/Artists/F/Fall_Out_Boy/Fall.Out.Boy.jpg
― antexit, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
lol forks there are no bugs in the 360 vn!! w00t w00t!!
― czn, Saturday, 3 May 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link
that kill lyle rivas mission was THRILLING!!
I did it on the first go and I was buzzing right after... the chase missions are so tricky but totally rewarding if you pull them off...
I'm just past the bit where you have to start making choices... excited to see how it pans out
― czn, Saturday, 3 May 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link
also, put my little d00d in a suit asap
looking for some nicer threads tbh
― czn, Saturday, 3 May 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link
If Lyle Rivas was the biker gang mission, then fuck yeah. They had me cornered with one sliver of energy left, and I picked them off one by one. It was fucking amazing.
― polyphonic, Saturday, 3 May 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link
ya that mission was awes
― s1ocki, Saturday, 3 May 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link
different from lyle rivas tho
After finding my first flying rat, I'm a bit obsessed with finding more, but the damn borough is so huge, those fuckers could be anywhere...
― calstars, Saturday, 3 May 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Shit, I hope this isn't a dumbass question, but does anyone else have a problem changing radio stations in certain vehicles? Is this a feature or a bug? As far as I can tell, the higher end vehicles are no problem, but when you try to switch the dial on middle to lower end ones you get just static and can't even re-tune in your original station. I think I also noticed that, when this happens, there's no radio playing in the safehouse, so it could well be a bug. Anyone else get this (I'm on a 360)?
― Lostandfound, Sunday, 4 May 2008 00:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Could also be a location/reception thing, maybe?
― Lostandfound, Sunday, 4 May 2008 00:17 (fifteen years ago) link
The Lyle Rivas mission was also very cool. Lots of good ones so far, and it's early.
― polyphonic, Sunday, 4 May 2008 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link
One thing made me laugh in the lyle mission - I'd just failed for about the 4th time, got out of the car and said to myself "this is some kind of bullshit". Nico then announced "this is bullshit!"
However I am starting to appreciate the benefit and fun in the softly softly approach to the missions where you have to kill warehouses full of dudes. Normally I charge in guns blazing, but really that's lazy and stupid and doomed to failure.
Don't recall having any radio problems. n.b. Journey is pretty good but Electro is my fave.
― ledge, Sunday, 4 May 2008 09:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Have got really into Radio Broker now, that Q LAZZARUS song is awesome.My Addiction Rating - Serious Habit, my longest time played - 15 hours! hahaStill no rampages though, but then neither did SA.SPOILERS ***I now have a camera phone, was using it while in the back of a taxi. amazing.Races have become way too easy, there are no car restrictions. I even started lapping them on one race.30 flying rats so far, i wonder if you get anything for every 50? loving the boats, the water is cool to look at especially going slow and watching the wave effect. On the bank job at the moment, seems quite big, failed it so am just going around cleaning up my relationships now and finding side stuff to do. I've turned off my gps as i'm so fucking hard and now know my way around, besides the one way system was making it send me round in bloody circles.yeah i like this game, i'm posting this from the ps3 lol
― Ste, Sunday, 4 May 2008 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link
connecting to the ps3 seems to have done something to my modem, it won't let me connect now from my PC just doesn't recognise the line anymore. any ideas?
― Ste, Sunday, 4 May 2008 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link
nggggggggggh
the bank heist mission was EPIC
― czn, Sunday, 4 May 2008 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link
I just did the Lyle Rivas, but haven't noticed any choices yet... did I miss them? (Maybe you didn't have to.... Spoiler...
...
Kill the boyfriend? Kill the "snitch"? Do the other crazy shit Dmitri asks you not to do?
― Mordy, Sunday, 4 May 2008 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link
and i'm reading about freezes on both xbox and ps3 now, but it seems an unfortunate fewno probs with mine so far, touch my wood.
― Ste, Sunday, 4 May 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link
it's still the small things in these games which get me all woah. Like throwing hand grenades in water. Ker-bloooom!When cars drive through fire, and their tires become enflamed. And then 'poof' you see the rubber blow off.The 4 different sirens and horns on police cars !!Did my first vigilante mission yesterday, they're quite tough.Love fucking using the sniper rifle.I'm starting to get those 'gta meets life' moments now, from too much play. This morning I heard a car horn outside my house. I then had an image of me looking out the window to see somehow badly parked across the kerb trying to get my attention, possibly to go play darts or something.
― Ste, Sunday, 4 May 2008 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Ste - did you figure out your modem problem? Have you tried unpluging the power (on the modem) and then plugging it back in?
― Jeff LeVine, Sunday, 4 May 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah tried that a few times, i'll just ring up virgin guys next week and see if they can try restarting it from their end.That fucking bank mission is getting on my tits.
― Ste, Sunday, 4 May 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
my freeze problems are isolated to connecting to multiplayer, and those problems were nonexistent last night. I'm not pitching a fit - I got to run around a virtual Manhattan killing two of my friends with an AK47 as they tried - in vain - to run me over with various vehicles. I also got very good at a set of matador moves that allowed me to move out of the way of an oncoming car pretty quickly.
I must report my favorite kill from that session was firing a rocket right in front of an oncoming cop car controlled by one of my friends and having the car explode OVER me, leaving me untouched. Awesome.
― B.L.A.M., Sunday, 4 May 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
dont worry the 360 multiplayer seems borked too
nigh impossible to connect : /
― czn, Sunday, 4 May 2008 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link
I get that sometimes, seems to be just a random local problem. Have had a handful of freezes on loading a multi game, and one after the end of a game, which would suck if you had a good result as it wouldn't be saved. Also had two games where everyone loaded ok but we all ended up alone in our own personal deserted liberty city.
― ledge, Monday, 5 May 2008 00:22 (fifteen years ago) link
The only problem I've had with multi on xbox live is when you join a game that's just starting but that you missed the options choosing screens. Then I've had long waits, 3 or 4 minutes of "loading game" on an otherwise empty screen. I've had that once or twice, but I don't consider that a bug. O/w no probs
― Euler, Monday, 5 May 2008 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link
The last 10 times I went online, I was totally fine. Just something we may have to deal with.
― B.L.A.M., Monday, 5 May 2008 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link
finally got back to where i was. took 9 less game days than first time round but my stats look like balls now. my 2 hour baseball bat rampage lost to history.
what i realized by going through all those missions again, or what was confirmed rather, was that i really fucking love this game. for the most part it's the same game as before, but it's like the GTA3 series was an old girlfriend who suddenly just got HOT and has just called to ask if you want to go for an intimate chicken sandwich at Cluckin' Bell.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 5 May 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link
when is GTA V?
― czn, Monday, 5 May 2008 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
they're saying fall.
― s1ocki, Monday, 5 May 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm at the first brucie race and i'm sorry but it is STUPID that if you lose the race you need to go collect the car and drive over to the race starting point again. i thought for this one they were skipping over that shit!!
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Are they putting out the soundtrack this time around?
― calstars, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 12:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Some girl dropped some litter so I picked it up and threw it at her. She started to beat me up! And wouldn't stop, so, you know, I had to kill her. Still have met any random friends despite running around as much as possible and bumping into people. "Are you my friend? Are you my friend?"
Finally unlocked Algonquin. Have been playing way more multi than single player.
― ledge, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 12:18 (fifteen years ago) link
i make it a tradition now to throw a donut at the Tw@t cafe owner's head whenever I leave the shop, he's stopped chasing me out now and just shouts abuse.
― Ste, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I've barely touched multiplay, I can't get into it at all. Tried Cops n Crooks but it just seemed stupid, the levels kept finishing before I even had chance to fire any weapons.
The races are okay though, but it's not as fun as MTA on the PC.
I've put in 60 hours so far, and still haven't finished the main game. I've progressed 51%
― Ste, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link
ledge, the random friends show up as green little pointy things on your radar. And when you're near them, the camera changes to cinematic one.
― Ste, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link
hahahahaha you cna throw donuts at him? amazing.
the thing w/ cops and crooks is you need the right crew to play. which is why i am planning an epic 8-man on XBLive tonight with all of my mates.
― Will M., Tuesday, 6 May 2008 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah cops n crooks with randoms can be fun or can be bullshit. same for races, which i'm still loving (when they go well...)
just gone to up rank 4 with $100,000 and i need another $150,000 to get to 5 ;_;
ledge, the random friends show up as green little pointy things on your radar.
shit i saw one of them but it was near roman's gaff and i thought it was just him so ignored it. maybe it'll still be there.
― ledge, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Is this coming out on PeeCee?
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm a little bit of the way through Algonquin. It's weird how Algonquin is so huge, and yet there are like two places to eat on the whole island. They did a good job making the city feel realistic, but it would be nice if there were more open storefronts to play around in or interact with.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
I know, ign were totally bullshittinv when they said that one in three buildings can be entered. Would be nice if you could tell which buildings you can enter instead of having to spaz up against the door to find out. Its some sub CoD4-cant-open-doors-WTF bullshit frreal
― czn, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link
haha i know... are you supposed to just go door to door thru the whole city
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link
how impossible are these achievements: - blow up 10 cars in 10 seconds - complete 10 melee attacks in 4 minutes
also, I totally outran the cops on a 4* wanted level and it didn't give me the achievement : (((
― czn, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link
-- kingfish, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 07:18 (6 days ago) Link
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-- circa1916, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 16:53 (6 days ago) Link
How's this for irony? UPS said they delivered the game this past Friday. Yeah, it never arrived. I'm currently wrangling with UPS and Best Buy over this.
Fucking bullshit.
If it actually got ganked, I wish the thief a slow and miserable death.
― circa1916, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link
OK I got the melee one - it's actually 10 melee counters in 4 minutes - and the counters carry over between deaths, so it isn't so bad...
― czn, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Are there rampages this time around? haven't seen any
― calstars, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Doesn't look like it, there were none in San Andreas either (other than 2 player mode). It's a shame cos I really enjoy the killing spree's, but it sounds like the Achievment list covers the same idea (are those on 360 only btw?)
Can anyone tell me how to do the 'let someone go', I've forgotten the button combination and so I keep having to execute my victims. (ps3)
― Ste, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 08:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Haha shit I sat down and watched TV in Niko's flat for like 15 minutes without changing the channel and nothing even repeated
I feel like with their attempts to be constantly cynical and funny these games always tend to throw quite a lot of shit for only a bit to stick, but stuff like "one of those tiny dogs that rich people keep in their vaginas" /having two rednecks on a shopping channel get properly fucking excited about knives was making me laugh my ass off like some dumb drunk dude being constantly ridiculous and gradually wearing you down
― That mong guy that's shit, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 08:49 (fifteen years ago) link
how the fuck do I hail a cab, it felt a bit wrong trying to get the dude home from his date while completely drunk and having to just give in and steal the cab after his girl's all been like "oh no crime is scary do you know anybody who does crimes?"
― That mong guy that's shit, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 08:53 (fifteen years ago) link
when you're drunk and try and hail a cab (L1), Niko usually doesn't do the normal whistle and hand raise. Just guess that one is ready to take, and then hold Triangle until he gets in.
yeah that tv is madness, i watched it for ages too. it was similar to typical late night or crappy freeview telly channels with repeating images but different dialogue. noticed lots of clips from san andreas too.
― Ste, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link
and pretty cool that you can do flips on bikes now.
― Ste, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 08:59 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't realise that there are no swords, or tanks, or betting
also you'd think they'd have got a guy who can do a decent accent for the main lead
― That mong guy that's shit, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link
or chainsaws?
― Ste, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link
the arcade game is pretty neat though
― Ste, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link
them too!
xp
― That mong guy that's shit, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Still got a pretty high cackling with glee to playtime ratio though, mostly just from the ragdoll physics resulting from car crashes and mortally wounded people getting knocked off bridges by trains and shit
― That mong guy that's shit, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, there's a lot missing from San Andreas but this one seems a LOT more fun! And SA was pretty good fun.
ragdoll physics (or whatevs it is now) is great, I was faced with a 'do i kill him' moment with a guy stood on the edge of some rocks. After fiddling with the controller trying to find the right button to let him go I accidentally pressed 'O' and pushed the poor guy down the cliff, and watched him tumbling down into the water. lol, so i had to shoot him after he swam back to shore.
and motorbike crashes make spectactular viewing.
― Ste, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link
How did you get your camera phone, ste? Was it given to you? i heard an advert for one on the radio. Also heard an ad for the ZIT music id/download service which I'll be trying once my rockstar social club thing is working...
― ledge, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
I played enough to get the achievement, never again.
― ledge, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link
you get it on a mission
cameraphone is rub. it should have been integrated into the social club ffs. and u can't save photies. worse than the doors thing tbh
skate really raised the bar on this kinda stuff tbh
― czn, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link
also wht dork calibrated the aiming on the cameraphone?!! you have to aim 2m below anything you want pic? I mean, really??
― czn, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link
can't save photos? boo.
― ledge, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link
cameraphone is clearly the least thought out thing in the history of gta games
what i wouldn't have given for a video editor a la skate in this game :(
― Will M., Wednesday, 7 May 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link
does anyone else sometimes drive around obeying all the traffic rules? bueller?
: ///
― czn, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
lol
I was surprised to read that some of you are taking taxis rather than just jacking cars. I've so far found the cops so easy to evade that sometimes I'll just hop out of whatever car I've currently jacked if I see another one I like, and just jack it. Granted that's not when I'm on a date...
― Euler, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, stealing a car is just one star, right? You can evade that by just driving to wherever you're headed with no evasive maneuvers.
Has anyone successfully completed the double jump in station square?
― jeff, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link
At this point, anytime I have to go over a bridge I take a taxi, especially the free Roman taxi. It isn't even a cop-evasion thing, just pure impatience ... especially if I'm driving to complete a mission I've already tried once or twice.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Grenades are 100x more awesome in this game than they were in the previous games.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link
(For the record, i stopped reading this thread a week or so ago cos I am a spoilerphobe. I'll come back (and start properly multiplaying) once I've finished the main story).
― JimD, Thursday, 8 May 2008 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link
taxis make sense - i do like driving but am seriously bored with having only one safe house across three islands. will i get another one? (don't tell me if you know)
double jump in station square? i will have to check it out.
$100g in multiplayer in two days!
― ledge, Thursday, 8 May 2008 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link
mind you doing it in earnest you could probably get that in two hours. have seen guys at rank 8 already...
― ledge, Thursday, 8 May 2008 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link
double jump in station square?
If you look on the map, you'll see a horizontal diamond south of Station Square. It's actually a mound of dirt in a construction area. The jump goes over the freeway where there is a second platform.
― jeff, Thursday, 8 May 2008 02:06 (fifteen years ago) link
i use taxis for when my friends ring, because trying to reach them within an hour by driving is nigh on impossible.
― Ste, Thursday, 8 May 2008 08:35 (fifteen years ago) link
and almost 50 hidden packages found so far!
― Ste, Thursday, 8 May 2008 08:36 (fifteen years ago) link
and yeah i only recently realised how pointless that camphone actually is.
― Ste, Thursday, 8 May 2008 08:38 (fifteen years ago) link
was playing a friend's copy last night for about ten minutes (mine is now en route from newly-restocked amazon) and we spotted haeretico/Ledge playing, but could not join an online game. HARUMPH
― stevie, Thursday, 8 May 2008 12:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Stevie! Are you the one who keeps texting me about new cars to steal?
― Ste, Thursday, 8 May 2008 13:14 (fifteen years ago) link
super cool: when you are in multiplayer and want to private chat with someone you phone them on their moby!!!!!
o_O
― czn, Thursday, 8 May 2008 13:36 (fifteen years ago) link
is the multiplayer voice chat only? or can you use a keyboard?
― Ste, Thursday, 8 May 2008 13:38 (fifteen years ago) link
lol keyboard
― czn, Thursday, 8 May 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link
(sorry)
― czn, Thursday, 8 May 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link
aplology
― grimly fiendish, Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link
we spotted haeretico/Ledge playing, but could not join an online game. HARUMPH
yeah i've only been playing ranked matches recently and you can't join a friend those. if i see y'all again i'll set up a quick match and invite you! or whoever. we should organise an ilg party match too...
― ledge, Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link
totally
should be on tonight for a bit, if anyone's down? gamertag: cozeny
― czn, Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link
a few of my RL friends are planning a big ol' crazy game tonight at 9pm EST, if any of youze want in my gtag is brilliam. we cna probably take a few more on and it'll be insane.
― Will M., Thursday, 8 May 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I suck so hard at life. Still don't have this. Gave up trying to find it in shops after I tried again on Tuesday to no avail. Just ordered it on play so I should probably expect it next week some time. Fuck.
― jim, Thursday, 8 May 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I have two copies (don't ask) but I can't sell you one of them, sorry dude : /
― czn, Thursday, 8 May 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link
ste! it wasn't me!
ledge! game doesn't arrive till tomorrow and i don't know when i'll get to play. but my bro will probably be on, so don't be offended if you get in touch and get no reply, but i am well up for CHAOS when i can play.
― stevie, Thursday, 8 May 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link
I'll be up for playing tonight, after 9 PM Eastern---gamertag is Jex Blade, but I'll look for some of you.
― Euler, Thursday, 8 May 2008 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link
bit late for me probably (2am gmt)
― ledge, Thursday, 8 May 2008 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't really know anyone here, but can I join? My tag - Roodle Faux.
― limón, Thursday, 8 May 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link
i was flying a chopper around the large factory area on the third island and when i approached the large cooling towers, I swear there was a person stood on the very top on the rim running around. As i got closer he just jumped inside.
― Ste, Friday, 9 May 2008 10:12 (fifteen years ago) link
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/images/7/78/Gman.jpg
― ledge, Friday, 9 May 2008 10:50 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7b9SbFzIp0&eurl=http://www.limmy.com/blog/
― czn, Friday, 9 May 2008 12:34 (fifteen years ago) link
That's the "Giz a loan ay yer jaykit!" guy isn't it?
― onimo, Friday, 9 May 2008 12:37 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.limmy.com/playthings/giesyerjaiket/
― onimo, Friday, 9 May 2008 12:40 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdqBkqk9kfU&feature=related
The alleyway dude drives up at 1.10 looks just like the place near the bridge on the 1st island in GTA3 where the rocket launcher rampage was. Weirdly familiar. Bit where the dude beats the hooker down so he can recover his money and she limps off clutching her stomach is a bit...er....much? Eh.
― Pashmina, Friday, 9 May 2008 13:04 (fifteen years ago) link
^ Dude can't drive.
― onimo, Friday, 9 May 2008 13:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Play.com got this delivered to me this afternoon and I only ordered it like a day ago <3
This weekend is a total wash-out now, but shouldn't matter too much because apparently the recent heat-wave in Glasgow is going to be replaced by heavy showers anyway. Ah well. Pulling an all nighter tonight I should think.
― jim, Friday, 9 May 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Game progress 29% Missions passed 43 Missions failed 24 Money $31599 Times busted 2 Times died 20 People killed 161 Playing time 17 Hrs Favorite radio station Liberty Rock Radio Cars stolen 128 Longest cop chase time 11 mins People run down 170 Fires started 12 Bullets fired 3791 Killed by headshots 23 Player shot to death 14 Scored with girl 1 Successful dates 2 Girls dumped 1
― calstars, Friday, 9 May 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
"I'M LIVING HERE WITH ROMAN!"
... was what I thought he kept on shouting during the rescue roman mission. I was like, dude what kind of a threat is that? "ha you've think you've taken him to a random abandoned factory but in fact this is my crib!"
― ledge, Friday, 9 May 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Man I suck at this game. Can't do my first Little Jacob mission, nor can I stop biker dude who's making out with whatsisface's daughter. Gah.
― stet, Friday, 9 May 2008 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link
If you're going for the all guns blazing approach then - be more subtle.
― ledge, Saturday, 10 May 2008 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Finally got it in glasgow. This is the first grand theft auto that i've completely fell in love with.
― Dy, Saturday, 10 May 2008 12:58 (fifteen years ago) link
you should marry it!
― s1ocki, Saturday, 10 May 2008 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link
single player got more enjoyable when I figured out that to get more missions, I had to go to Roman's workplace and Little Jacob's house. Until then I was just waiting for someone to call, which meant Michelle and Roman for dates and strippers. Plus side: warm coffee!
― Euler, Saturday, 10 May 2008 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link
I would marry it but it might kill me.
― Dy, Saturday, 10 May 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link
what a way to go tho huh!
― s1ocki, Saturday, 10 May 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link
If I want to kill you guys, should I get a 360 or a PS3?
― Leee, Sunday, 11 May 2008 01:50 (fifteen years ago) link
i got multiplayer to work for the first time ever last night, and was shot to ribbons...
― stevie, Sunday, 11 May 2008 08:56 (fifteen years ago) link
psleeee
― s1ocki, Sunday, 11 May 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link
i've only managed to connect to multiplayer once... i think my NAT might be to blame, as it is, apparently, 'strict'. anyone have any advice?
― stevie, Sunday, 11 May 2008 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link
is there really no reward for finishing the street races, what a joke
― Ste, Monday, 12 May 2008 08:30 (fifteen years ago) link
so i spent a good part of yesterday getting a car on the roller coaster, all was going well until i got to the top and the car rolled over and got stuck inbetween the tracks.
what's the best vehicle to ride on it with?
― Ste, Monday, 12 May 2008 09:21 (fifteen years ago) link
and still does anyone know the buttons to press to 'let someone go' ?
― Ste, Monday, 12 May 2008 09:48 (fifteen years ago) link
and been laughing a lot a the lazlow Integrity station, especially the nerd guy and the bloke who thinks he's entitled to touch womens 'bits' if they're showing in public.
― Ste, Monday, 12 May 2008 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Took Roman to play darts in a helicopter. He didn't seem impressed by my choice of ride. Taking him home, I landed on the other side of the road from his house and the idiot got run over. Then I landed the helicopter on top of a police car, destroying the chopper and getting 4 stars. Then Roman rang me asking to be picked up from the hospital. So in a police car I'd nicked, with the wheels already shot out I managed to pick him up and take him home, at which point my stars vanished, yay!
― ledge, Monday, 12 May 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link
- Missions so far seem pretty easy.
- Enjoying the ragdoll technology very much. I pushed Dardan out the window in his mission and he broke his back on the dike out front.
- Found some sketchy drug house with bongs and pipes and hobos wandering around on top. Threw a few of them off onto the highway below.
- Pushing people in front of trains wasn't as cool as I thought it'd be.
- Made it to Algonguin by going down the subway line. Didn't get past the upstairs of the police station, but did gain an AK out of it.
- Haven't figured out yet how to simply ride in the taxi. I whistle, it says hit the "Y" button, and I pull the driver out of his cab.
- I hear Bigfoot lives in the Village.
― Pleasant Plains, Monday, 12 May 2008 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link
-the Missions get more difficult (obviously), but the sheer number of them is perplexing to me. I played it an awful lot this weekend and am still only about 25% through the game.
-Once you whistle for the taxi and it stops for you, you have to hold down "Y".
― Gukbe, Monday, 12 May 2008 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Dear Rockstar:
GTA is not an FPS, stop expecting me to mow down like 20 dudes in a closed space when your targeting system has only been upgraded from "balls" to "ass"
― AJ Styles, Monday, 12 May 2008 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link
You just leave. There's no button.
― polyphonic, Monday, 12 May 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Am currently trying to get the "Fly the co-op" multiplayer mission time limit achievement. Hangman's NOOSE = pretty easy if you all know what you're doing. Bomb da Base II - there is a handy glitch which should make it easier although I haven't got it yet. Deal Breaker - fuckin ell. Hardest thing is that you need to do it with only two people so you have to mess around in the lobby for ages trying to find a game with one other person, or kicking people out of games.
― ledge, Monday, 12 May 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
-- AJ Styles, Monday, May 12, 2008 5:01 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link
^^^ this
― s1ocki, Monday, 12 May 2008 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
there is much fun to be had in mowing down 20 dudes in a closed space even if the targeting is less than perfect. you boys should stop those tears, pick up the gamepad and play the mission again. i'm sure you'll do much better next time.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 12 May 2008 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I watched my wife use molatov cocktails to "beat up" Roman's adversaries on the basketball court.
― Pleasant Plains, Monday, 12 May 2008 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link
dude I'm not saying I couldn't do it, but any button function involving "half pressing" is fucking dumb
I love how any criticism of a game becomes "YOU SUCK AT IT D00D"
― AJ Styles, Monday, 12 May 2008 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link
yes i find a small fault with the 'hiding' ability is when someone suddenly appears opposite you, then you have to leave hide mode and then wrap the camera around 180 degrees before you can even stand a chance of targeting the guy.
Still having heaps of fun though, only 3 more cars to get for Stevie!
And if Packie beats me at Pool once more I think I may have to burn him, yes burn him.
― Ste, Monday, 12 May 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I suck at it AND think the targeting is a hunk o ass
― stet, Monday, 12 May 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link
especially when dealing with guys on either side of you
Jesus Christ, the bank mission is ridiculous.
― polyphonic, Monday, 12 May 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link
I wish I had more desire to play this game, but I feel I may have overloaded on it. I will return to it soon, no doubt.
― B.L.A.M., Monday, 12 May 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link
i know what you mean. i went through a stage, after doing a fair amount of stuff, suddenly getting fed up and not having the urge to attempt anything in it. So left it for a good few days.
Fired it up last night tho and I can't put the fucking thing down again, I feel more part of it's world now it's sucked me in big time.
I'm only posting on here cos the controller is out of juice.
― Ste, Monday, 12 May 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link
That's why I have two.
― B.L.A.M., Monday, 12 May 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Any consensus as to which of the multiplayer games is any good?
― jim, Monday, 12 May 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
if you have a group of friends, it's pretty great to go in free mode and do something krazy like take up residence in the prison and try to get six stars
― Euler, Monday, 12 May 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I like deathmatch and race and gta race and cops n crooks.
Race really does deliver a top notch racing game - ok generally in a game of 16 players, 10 of them are idiot n00bs who pile into the first corner withotu braking and do their best to fuck it up for everyone else, but if you hang back and avoid the carnage, or manage to get out in front, then you generally end up having a good race with the 6 players who can actually drive.
GTA race is a bit like wipeout, ie racing with guns, but in wipeout you can't get out of your car, jump into a bus to create a roadblock, collect a rocket launcher, and camp by your roadblock, destroying everyone as they try to get past.
Cops n crooks - can be bad or good depending who you play with (really this applies to all the modes) but when it's good it's very very good; there's a million different ways each game could turn out, from clinically executed takedowns to hilarious random carnage.
― ledge, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Didn't I tell you to get a 360 instead of a PS3? DIDN'T I??
― JimD, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link
i may be getting one also
― Ste, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Pushing people in front of trains wasn't as cool as I thought it'd be.
First time I did this the guy dragged himself to his feet and staggered off down the tracks, so when the train actually left the platform it knocked him off the bridge at ridiculous speed and on to the bonnet of a taxi on the road below
Shooting taxi drivers through their windshield at the end of your journey and taking your money back is the new Hooker Trick, but if their foot gets jammed on the accelerator you end up getting carried fifty feet down the road by a constant-horn-blaring death wagon and smashed to pieces up against a hot dog stand or some shit
― MPx4A, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 08:38 (fifteen years ago) link
cops n crooks = best multiplayer.
― Dy, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 09:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm slowly making my way through the early missions and came across my first "Choose Your Own Adventure" ending.
That fucker better not come back after me like the German soldier in Saving Private Ryan.
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link
My housemate chose to kill Dwayne instead of Playboy X. It's a good choice if you don't want to have another friend to hang out with, but Dwayne is my favorite dude.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link
SPOILER ABOVE
MORE RELATED TO ABOVE SPOILER i killed playboy x but goddamn dwayne is such a whiny bitch that i wish i iced him instead
― Will M., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I love how much of a drag he is. Brucie and Roman are too perky.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link
this is great, please keep with spoiler-type stuff, because after I "dealt" with Vlad I felt kinda icky and put the game down for a few days. I'm a gentle soul who can handle the anonymous slaughter just fine (yeah I know) but when it's face to face, I get pretty overwhelmed. So I want to get re-excited about the single player (multi still awesome).
― Euler, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link
OTM, even if it means losing a safehouse. "Waaaa! I had all my friends killed and now I've got no one to go bowling with!" And he had the nerve to tell me "well YOU were the one who wanted to go bowling" when I cut the game short.
The Snow Storm mission is doing my head in.
― limón, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z9oJT4cdhA
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
OH WHEN WILL MY SORNY KARD ARRIVE IN THE MAIL.
― Leee, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Choosing Dwayne gets you some familiar threads if you check the wardrobe.
― calstars, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Killed Dwayne and I feel bad.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 02:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Agh, and now there's an e-mail from Dwayne wanting to hang out. so eerie and sad.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Playboy was the aggressor, not Dwayne.
― calstars, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 02:29 (fifteen years ago) link
My friend had the controller. I was all "OLD SKOOL" and he was all "$$$".
Got 25000 for it, which is something. But Playboy was all "i don't ever want to see you again. you cold. you need to live for something."
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link
The money won't seem worth it after the highly lucrative bank mission.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link
?What do you mean? Do I need Dwayne for that or is it just a massive payday?
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 03:00 (fifteen years ago) link
kerching!
it only recently occured to me how expensive hospital visits are, oops.
Dwayne gets on my nerves, but he's stopped ringing me now. I tried getting in touch but he was all "sob sob ring me more often bye". Same with packies sister kate but her phone just keeps giving me an engaged tone.
i have to deal with this stoopid mind game shit in real life, why should i suffer it in my favourite games !!?
i've realised why most of the sub standard cars handle real shitty, it's so the high performance cars feel much much sublime. I think my favourite is the Comet but I love driving all the fast cars.
― Ste, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 08:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Comet, is that the Porsche? Man I dumped that shit in multiplayer, floating all over the shop, never all four wheels on the ground at once. Infernus 4 life, just cause it is goddamned fast. Banshee used to be my fave, but with the new realistic physics it seems a bit meh.
this! otm! qft! ^!
― ledge, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 08:35 (fifteen years ago) link
When i received my Infernus reward it was the first time I'd driven one, another reason why I've left the multiplayer alone for now so that I don't spoil some of the stuff that becomes available to you. I was so chuffed I drove that thing so carefully back to my safehouse, I still haven't seen another one on the roads.
― Ste, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 08:42 (fifteen years ago) link
altho i'm very partial to the Trans-Am looking car
― Ste, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 09:09 (fifteen years ago) link
There are way too many spoilers in this thread. What the hell, guys.
Also sniping helicopter pilots is officially the best thing ever in this game.
― antexit, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Ah these threads always get spoiler-tastic, I never read them unless or until I've got far enough in the game.
I wonder if people on multiplayer without microphones know why they get kicked, or people leave games they're in, or randomly start trying to shoot them in the head and blow them up. IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTING LIKE A PRICK AND CAN'T EVEN HEAR INSTRUCTIONS LET ALONE FOLLOW THEM. Not that 90% of people with mics aren't assholes or simpletons too.
― ledge, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link
The Infernus has superseded the Banshee as the car of choice this time around...
― calstars, Thursday, 15 May 2008 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Never felt the love for the Banshee, slips and slides all over the place. Was always a Cheetah fan, the ferrari this time round is still amazing.
Was thinking how cool a Vice City game would be on the new consoles.
had terrible dream last night that me and my mates had just done a bank job, but it was the second job we'd done and so most of the dream was just us lot shitting ourselves waiting for one us to panic and get sprung by the cops.
― Ste, Thursday, 15 May 2008 09:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Took three tries for the bank job. Not counting the one where I blew up the car before we even got there, killing Michael. My driving does get me into trouble. I called up Kate for a date and found a bike to get there - I love bikes and try to maintain a huge collection outside the safehouses - but the police got in the way and I came off the bike, and off the bridge I was on, landing in the river. So I called kate to cancel, found a car, and rightway arranged another date, man I'm smooth. Then twice nearly flipped the car after I'd picked her up.
― ledge, Thursday, 15 May 2008 13:21 (fifteen years ago) link
man that *is* smooth, I gave up on kate ages ago after she dissed my clothing choice.
and has anyone dated Carmen yet? she's supposed to administer health boosts over the phone to me but it doesn't seem to work.
― Ste, Thursday, 15 May 2008 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Should I get this game if my wife is sort of interested in seeing it?
― HI DERE, Thursday, 15 May 2008 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link
your wife's enthusiasm will probably take her past the casual violence but will only last until the first time you go to the strip club or have sex.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 15 May 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Actually, it's much more likely she will get bored if you end up having to do the exact same thing over and over again than that she will be offended/turned off by explicit sexual content.
― HI DERE, Thursday, 15 May 2008 13:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I end up doing Michelle again and again, but I guess I don't have to. So: not boring.
― Euler, Thursday, 15 May 2008 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link
sexual content on the game, like with any other video game, is less offensive and more crepey. i would be embarrassed by playing through the sexual scenes with a ladyfriend because it's so nerdy and weird. but then i am a britishes and we embarrass easily.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 15 May 2008 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link
never a dull moment, definitely won't get bored.
― Ste, Thursday, 15 May 2008 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link
My wife watches me play and considers it her evening entertainment.
― calstars, Thursday, 15 May 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link
raise @ work means I think I go buy!
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 15 May 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link
fuck there's some heavy explosions in this fine game!
― Ste, Thursday, 15 May 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
The fire is greatly improved.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 15 May 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
and has anyone dated Carmen yet?
OMG OPTIONAL DATING QUEST SPOILAHS
yeah, once you get the health boosts, you call her and select "health boost," she and niko have a funny conversation, then you stand there and your health SLOWLY fills up (about 30sec to 100%) but if you take damage, it stops refilling.
even better though when you date kiki enough, you can get her to make the cops fuck off of you. except i am literally scared of her because she like crazy in love w/ niko.
― Will M., Thursday, 15 May 2008 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
my friend took Kiki to the comedy club and she was so pumped. But friend got tired of the comedy stylings of Katt Williams and ended the gig, and Kiki was NOT PLEASED.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 15 May 2008 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link
I am in an argument about GTA and violence and the demise of civilization. Someone is telling me that you can rape people in GTA. Is this true?
― Z S, Friday, 16 May 2008 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link
No, I think you're thinking of Mass Effect.
― antexit, Friday, 16 May 2008 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link
you're thinking of smash brothers.
― s1ocki, Friday, 16 May 2008 06:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Sorry, I had to type "Is this true?" as she was watching over my shoulder. I was planning to be like WTF
― Z S, Friday, 16 May 2008 07:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Have you noticed in the game though that most of the time even when you succesfully 'wipe' someone in a mission out, they're not always dead? I've seen bad guys just get up and wander off 'stage'. Is this Rockstar's attempt to 'soften' things up slightly?
Nope, still getting no health increase even after the phone conversation. Is broken i think.
― Ste, Friday, 16 May 2008 09:00 (fifteen years ago) link
do you think perhaps i should stay perfectly still for it to work?
― Ste, Friday, 16 May 2008 09:01 (fifteen years ago) link
so finished the hitman missions and the most wanted. what did i get for them? fuck all. Rewards are pitiful in this version.
― Ste, Friday, 16 May 2008 12:34 (fifteen years ago) link
i may be playing tonight, if anyone is around - though my strict NAT is still causing multiplayer to be a hassle...
― stevie, Friday, 16 May 2008 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Is online play isolated by console or can XBox and PS3 owners play each other?
― HI DERE, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link
isolated only :(
― s1ocki, Friday, 16 May 2008 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link
boo
― HI DERE, Friday, 16 May 2008 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link
BIG SPOILER ALERT !
okay i'm on the final mission, and i chose the 'money' option. this fucking mission is doing my pissing head in, i cannot for the life of me reach Jacob in the chopper. The worst part is having to do all the easy shooting parts before it, which takes absolutely ages. I have attempted this mission well over 10 times now.
So FUCK this game!
― Ste, Monday, 19 May 2008 01:07 (fifteen years ago) link
(i punched the shit out of a donut i got so frustrated)
― Ste, Monday, 19 May 2008 01:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Ah well, my strop with this game has given me good excuse to be getting on with other projects (which were mysteriously neglected after the arrival of this game).
There's a serious lack of sub games in this one, and the main missions are so 'samey' just hide-and-shoot all the time. At 82% already you have to question how this one stands up to the brutal greatness of the past games, and how obtaining 100% made you feel far more superior. The rewards are crap in this one too.
― Ste, Monday, 19 May 2008 10:51 (fifteen years ago) link
(but then 'minds' could change if I ever complete this last task)
― Ste, Monday, 19 May 2008 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I couldn't believe not one inanimate object in my lounge last night could help answer my ever increasing vocal query of 'who in their right fucking mind could have got away with programming such an awful level'
― Ste, Monday, 19 May 2008 10:55 (fifteen years ago) link
"simmers"
― Ste, Monday, 19 May 2008 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link
okay. did it.
shut up ste
― Ste, Monday, 19 May 2008 12:42 (fifteen years ago) link
So, now that you've finished it, how do you feel about it in comparison to the San Andreas and Vice City (and even III) GTA's? I have yet to play it, and really can't bring myself to justify buying it for my flatmate's 360 (he's too cheap to buy it). But, whenever I think of buying it, I question whether I would actually enjoy it that much. A big part of that is that I'm cynical, and can't believe it could possibly be justified in the scores of 100% reviews, and the other part is that as much as I really enjoyed the other games, they still got a bit 'samey' eventually. I'm not one for the 100% stuff anyway, more just a main story-arc kinda guy. Pissing about is always fun though, I guess. Just wondering how you think it compares to it's predecessors on grounds other than prettiness, as I know you love the GTA games.
― CraigG, Monday, 19 May 2008 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link
This one is a bit more samey than SA/VC, a lot of the missions are either "go in the warehouse and shoot the 20 people that are all firing at you" or "chase the car, kill the car". But there is so much more fuel for pissing about and procrastinating between missions. Maybe too much, your social life can get a bit hectic when everyone's calling you to play pool and you just want to wander around freely or finish a mission. Personally, I prefer SA for the variety of the missions, I never thought I'd say this but I think I miss the flying missions.
I'm still loving it though.
― limón, Monday, 19 May 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link
I hit some chick in the back of the head with an empty coffee cup and the fuzz came down after me. Puh-leeze.
I've gotten so bored at times that I just go down to Coney Island, find the red propane tank, and blow myself up.
― Pleasant Plains, Monday, 19 May 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh buy it, it's great fun.
I'd say at a pinch San Andreas was a better game. It has more variety in missions, more to offer, more side missions and just generally trillions of shit going on. I think this owes a lot to it being the third release on the same system. GTA III and VC were almost identical 'original gta-3d' launch titles. The jump in technical achievement between VC and SA will hopefully be mirrored between IV and the next installment.
Now that I've finished the story, it's time to batter this one over the head until it bleeds. Just like I've done with the prev ones. A proper assessment, in that case, will be a long way off.
And yeah, I miss the flying missions too. I also miss checkpoint missions and hidden vehicle secrets.
― Ste, Monday, 19 May 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Pleasant otm. This one is more grounded, and some respects it truly is a bad thing. Hospital bills are astronomical, police wanted levels over 3 stars are a bitch to shake, you can't just drive into a pay n spray if the cops see you go into it.
― Ste, Monday, 19 May 2008 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link
does anyone know what money is good for besides buying ammo and clothes and spending $5 on a hamburger? i really don't care about hospital bills cuz otherwise money is kinda useless and it keeps piling up!
― s1ocki, Monday, 19 May 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Trying to avoid spoilers (I've only just unlocked Manhattan), but I've already been frustrated at the amount of "go in here, shoot all this dudes" missions. Though now that I'm understanding they're mostly just hide-shoot-hide take-yr-timeathons I'm cooler with them.
― stet, Monday, 19 May 2008 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link
where's the rape button plz
― circa1916, Monday, 19 May 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link
You're thinking of Dr. Mario.
― jeff, Monday, 19 May 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm pretty far along, I think. I recently made the )SPOILER ALERT) choice of Derrick over Francis, and am doing a lot of missions in Alderney. I think there are missions in this game that are just way more fun than comparable missions in the other games because of their depth and how visceral they are (the bank heist, rescuing roman, the bike chase through the subway... ), but the other games definitely were a little more fun overall in the 1p.
On the other hand, like so many games nowadays, it seems like the best part, the most infinitely rewarding part, is the multiplayer, which is too bad because I generally dislike multiplayer. These multiplayer options are among the best I've tried, but it's still not something I enjoy as much because I hate either (1) talking to racist suburban 15 year olds, and (2) if you don't use the headset, you'll wind up screwing everything up or not communicating well whenever teamwork is needed.
And yeah, this game is definitely not a 10. It's fun, but highly flawed. Also, many of the cut scenes are embarrassingly bad in their rendering.
― polyphonic, Monday, 19 May 2008 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link
In all honesty, I don't need a lot of convincing. It's more the fact that I'll have to buy it for a console that isn't even mine. Ah well, provided it's as fun as the previous ones, I guess it's worth £40. Plus, I just got stuck on hard on Guitar Hero, so I need a proper game to stop me pissing away the hours on a nothing game...
― CraigG, Monday, 19 May 2008 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link
sweet, (minor spoiler, maybe not)
only found out tonight you can ride the huge Tug ship. it's great for ramming every fucker else with.
i so want one of those black Fed cars, looks like a beast.
― Ste, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link
CraigG: Rental? It took me a good 40ish hours to get through all of the story (although I really took my time and did side missions and sat in the cxar listening to talk shows and stuff). Beating the story can definitely be done confortably under 30h-- rent it two or three times and book a few days off!
― Will M., Tuesday, 20 May 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
it took me 100+ hours lol. although i have done 88%
― Ste, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Went to the strip club, was preceded on my way out by one of the ladieeez who apparently felt like a stroll in the sunshine, all scantily clad like. She was probably drunk 'cause she kept on getting run over.
― ledge, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link
locking to cover in this game can be kind of sticky and annoying.
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah but... it's better than nothing.
Apparently someone declared WORLD ASSHOLE DAY on multiplayer today.
― ledge, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link
lol Dwayne
*ring ring* "Hello?" "Hey, its Dwayne. Did you just call me"? "No..." "Oh ok. It's just... I was in the shower, and the phone rang. I thought it might have been you. My bad." *click*
― ledge, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Heh, I got that. I've now taken to ringing him and standing him up on purpose as much as possible.
― limón, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Isn't that (the Dwayne phone exchange) from The Cable Guy? :)
Yeah, rental might be an option, but I'll probably just wait til my flatmate cracks and buys it himself, or I'll borrow it from one of my friends once they're bored.
― CraigG, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:04 (fifteen years ago) link
gta moment #1233454
driving along very carefully trying to avoid colliding with cop car/pedestrians to avoid wanted star, only to hit lamp post/tree which sends you deflecting right into path of said cops/peds.
― Ste, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link
more moments..
accidentally walking into someone at the top of some stairs, and seeing them tumble all the way to the bottom
shooting the gas canister on the back of the forklift truck (hint: it doesn't explode like you think)
Casually flying your helicopter through the flames on those refinery chimneys, just to see 'what will happen'.
Just watching the shadow of your helicopter flying through the skyscrapers
The all time favourite, launching a rocket at an oncoming speeding car sending it soaring through the air in a ball of flames.
― Ste, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link
This has sat unopened in my living room for a week now. It is far too daunting. It's like getting into the Fall or Guided By Voices but probably even more of a time-suck and thus even more intimidating.
― Garrett Martin, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't know, I've been giving it an hour or two per play and it's been enjoyable enough.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought I was hallucinating for a while but no it's definitely true - you know the GPS lady who tells you which way to go? And when you get to where you have to turn the GPS goes bing-bong? Sometimes the lady actually says "bing bong".
― ledge, Thursday, 22 May 2008 12:40 (fifteen years ago) link
there's some amazing grafitti around in this game, just on the east side underneath the main underpass there's a huge row of homeless areas with tons of artwork on the walls.
spent a good half hour last night just laying waste to my apartment, pretty satisfying. and i broke the telly.
― Ste, Friday, 23 May 2008 08:23 (fifteen years ago) link
and destroy - fucking side missions that actually cost *me* money!
― Ste, Friday, 23 May 2008 08:28 (fifteen years ago) link
where have all the chuffing good cars got to? I've still not come across a comet, infernus, or super GT other than in missions.
― Ste, Friday, 23 May 2008 09:00 (fifteen years ago) link
They could have done so much more with the phone, hopefully they will with the next game. For instance there's a website for AutoErotica cars, which includes phone numbers on the site. But ringing these numbers produces NOTHING.
Instead they've incorporated a 'ring a spawn' but this is classed as cheating. WTF ?! Why didn't they just have this as part of the game?
They've got so much right with this game, but seems like they've got so soooo much wrong at the same time.
― Ste, Friday, 23 May 2008 10:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I think everything that is right and wrong with this game comes down to the realism. It seems they've tried to make this the most realistic gta yet, which can be seen in the graphics (e.g. streetlights reflecting off the rain-wet streets); the physics model; the characters (Nico is the most sympathetic protagonist yet because he is the most real, he's not a cliche like Tommy Vercetti or a cipher like CJ); the missions (no ridiculous jet-pack nonsense). And for the graphics, the atmosphere, the story, it all works. The trouble is that the gameplay suffers. No absurdist missions means an excess of the formulaic shooting or chasing missions. No silly sideshows like demolition derby or dirtbike trials means, sadly, no fun.
― ledge, Friday, 23 May 2008 11:15 (fifteen years ago) link
otm ledge, and is evident in the fact that you cannot enter the airport site without getting a four star wanted level. Oh come on, get it right in the next game for gods sake.
― Ste, Friday, 23 May 2008 11:29 (fifteen years ago) link
oh how i loved those dirt bike trials, Vice City had the best one - proper Kickstart style.
ooh now i really want to replay San Andreas.
― Ste, Friday, 23 May 2008 11:31 (fifteen years ago) link
oh and for the record, I *do* really like this game lolol. I guess I'm just arguing with myself on this thread mostly, in comparison a great gta concept, it's missing a lot - but as a game in it's own right I love it.
― Ste, Friday, 23 May 2008 12:55 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah agreed. any r* developers reading thread, we <3 you really!
― ledge, Friday, 23 May 2008 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I loved the jetpack mission!
― polyphonic, Friday, 23 May 2008 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah it was fun! but not fitting in a po-faced game about an immigrant psycho-killer with a heart of gold.
― ledge, Friday, 23 May 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
The post that made me buy GTA:SA
― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 23 May 2008 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link
for some reason your link will not jump me to the actual message 570, which is lame... can you copypastas part or all of the message so i can look for it?
― Will M., Friday, 23 May 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
-- ledge, Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:40 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
FUCKING YES, this may be my favourite part of the game. Bar none. It took about four times before I got it. It only seems to happen to me when I'm driving super-fast (and therefore really concentrating on not crashing)-- it may jsut be compeltlyy random however.
― Will M., Friday, 23 May 2008 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Sure, Will.
OK, I keep spoiling things, but I can't help sharing the enthusiastic dorkness: the secret means of transportation found in Area 69 IS A FUCKING JETPACK, PEOPLE.
SPACE GANGSTA, AWAAAAAAAAAAY
-- MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Friday, November 5, 2004 11:42 PM (Friday, November 5, 2004 11:42 PM) Bookmark Link The Loc-eteer
-- MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Friday, November 5, 2004 11:42 PM (Friday, November 5, 2004 11:42 PM) Bookmark Link SPACE GANGSTA, AWAAAAAAAAAAY
It was worth the spoiler just to read that.
-- Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, November 5, 2004 11:49 PM (Friday, November 5, 2004 11:49 PM) Bookmark Link oh fuck now i need a screengrab of that
-- Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Saturday, November 6, 2004 12:33 AM (Saturday, November 6, 2004 12:33 AM) Bookmark Link It's great, you can fly it and shoot people at the same time. It looks kinda like the one James Bond had in Thunderball.
-- MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Saturday, November 6, 2004 1:03 AM (Saturday, November 6, 2004 1:03 AM) Bookmark Link Nate Patrin, you suck. I haven't been not reading FAQs for the last three days just to see in in print.
-- Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, November 7, 2004 2:58 PM (Sunday, November 7, 2004 2:58 PM) Bookmark Link
― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 23 May 2008 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I've been reading/listening to a lot of people saying that San Andreas is by far the worst game because they hate rap music and gangsta culture glorification which is like the biggest missing of the ponit ever. Sorry IV, but I still think SA is the best of the series.
― Will M., Friday, 23 May 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
What about the multiplayer, though? I mean, who played GTA III and didn't think "what if I could play against someone else, and with the whole city as my playground?" And now you can play against 15 people in an even bigger landscape, in some very fun scenarios, with pedestrians and traffic. That's no small feat, regardless of how you feel about the single player.
One thing I loved about SA was the countryside, and that gave the game a scope that GTA IV can't match. But I think the GTA IV map is easily the best. I love how multileveled it is. You can drop from the top of a building to the freeway to an overpass to an underpass to a subway. It's just much more three-dimensional than any of the other maps, AND it has a ton of character. I wish there were more indoor spaces, but there are still plenty of them compared to SA.
I miss all the vehicles ... especially bicycles ... and I wish the motorcycles controlled better. I miss the harrier jet and the jetpack and planes and all that stuff, but the vehicles that are there have a weight to them that adds another wrinkle to the experience.
I agree that the missions aren't as varied, but I think the missions themselves are much more nuanced and visceral. The car chase missions are well-scripted, but not being able to kill someone until some artificial event (bad guys flip over, cops start chasing speedboat, etc.) pisses me off.
I do think there's just a general fatigue that arises from the fact that the single-player really hasn't added very many new wrinkles apart from the cover system, and the cover system is maybe a C+ at best compared to something like Gears of War (or some game I haven't tried). But the rag doll physics alone makes this game a real gem. Shooting guys out of helicopters and watching them fall on cars and buildings is amazing.
Mixed emotions, etc. etc.
― polyphonic, Friday, 23 May 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm only about 20% into the game, but I admit, it has started to bore me something bad. I dread turning it on again and having my cell phone ring and having to drive across town to pick somebody up and take them out to dinner and then drive them home again. Phone rings too damn much.
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 23 May 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Don't get me wrong, I like GTA IV a lot... but overall, I appreciated the experience of SA more. I am mostly talking about the single player, because while multi is fun, it doesn't really blow my mind. There are plenty of other games I'd rather play online... this one feels like it does a lot of things, but only competently.
But, like I said, it's the single-player experience I dig. And IV is really amazing in that sense; the whole off-the-boat, exploring-the-american-dream-lie thing is awesome. But really, with CJ coming back form wherever to Los Santos, he sort of explores the "gangsta" dream and uncovers how bullshit it is, and at the time, it just seemed a lot more... I don't know, poignant? Maybe I'm just a crazy bastard but "boy the american dream is bullshit" feels like old news by now. Plus, while the writing is better than other video games, I still get frustrated by the childish heavy-handedness of everything that isn't delivered with a sneer (see: most of the car rides w/ Roman when you talk about America on the way to see teetees). I mean, yeah, I like the sarcastic shit on the radio but yeah... the one thing that needed to get "next-gen," the subtlety they could've pulled off in the cutscenes and conversations and shit... just left me really disappointed. Especially considering how the first hour or so REALLY LOOKS like it's going to be "next-gen" as far as the writing, acting and mocap went. It looked fucking great.
xpost of course
― Will M., Friday, 23 May 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Jeff, people don't get that pissed if you say "no" to the cell phone, only if you do it to that particular person like 3 times in a row.
The person upthread who said they couldn't do the final mission - I picked "revenge", and it sounds like exactly the same mission anyway. It took me a few goes but you don't need to go too fast on the bike to keep up so it's worth trying to just drive it carefully.
― limón, Friday, 23 May 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link
ugh it took me SO long to actually get on the bike fast enough + keep up for the first 50 metres. i kept fucking up and hitting the rocks right at the beginning and failing. the first time i finally made it past i had virtually no health, caught a stray bullet out of NOWHERE and died. I HATED that mission.
― Will M., Friday, 23 May 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, actually, the cellphone friend-management aspect of the game definitely teeters it below SA, now that I think about it. It's much, much worse than the RPG elements of SA, which at least gave you the option of being fat and winded.
― polyphonic, Friday, 23 May 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link
And I agree that the cutscenes are a huge disappointment. They look like crap.
Again, to be fair, this game at elast gives you the option to be sad and friendless and unable to call cabs ;)
― Will M., Friday, 23 May 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought there was an option to just turn 'story-advancing' calls off if you want? I'm sure I saw it in the mobile menus someplace.
― treefell, Friday, 23 May 2008 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link
yes, you can plonk the phone on 'quiet mode' which just turns off anyone ringing you. Quite useful if you just want to fuck about and explore.
The 'revenge' mission is slightly different, instead of a bike I had a boat. It was such an annoying mission that now that I've completed it, I don't even want to be reminded of it ever again. (the mission, not the game)
I watched CSI NY tonight and it featured, very briefly, Russian gangsters in Coney Island, lol.
― Ste, Saturday, 24 May 2008 01:54 (fifteen years ago) link
yes, you can plonk the phone on 'quiet mode' which just turns off anyone ringing you.
shit, i had no idea about that. well that removes one black mark i had against the game.
― ledge, Saturday, 24 May 2008 09:05 (fifteen years ago) link
you still hammering the multiplayer ledge?
The score system you mentioned, does this carry on to all multiplayer modes? How does it work?
― Ste, Saturday, 24 May 2008 09:44 (fifteen years ago) link
(in the ranked multiplayer modes) you get dollars for every game - about a grand for winning a race, $100 per deathmatch kill, about five grand for completing one of the co-op modes. the more you earn the more you rank. I'm nearly on 8, which takes ONE MEEELLION DOLLARS. To get to 9 will take another mill and a half :/ don't even know how much for 10.
how did I get so much cash? by playing hangmans noose about 200 times. what do i get for all this hard work? some extra outfits for my avatar. mostly just helmets. why am i bothering? <shrug>
― ledge, Saturday, 24 May 2008 09:56 (fifteen years ago) link
The game is basically III with a facelift. Not that I'm complaining though.
― calstars, Sunday, 25 May 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Caved in yesterday and bought a PS3 & GTAIV. I managed to wait a year for the PC version of San Andreas, but just couldn't handle the wait this time. Only played a couple of hours so far, but WOWS @ gameplay.
The cars handle so differently to previous games; I used to be handbrake turn ninja, but I keep wildly overshooting corners and spinning out now. Fortunately, it feels and looks way cooler, so I just need to adjust my technique somewaht.
It looks good enough, but I am an antialiasing snob, so I'm kinda distracted by jaggies a lot of the time.
Combat system is taking some getting used to, since I'm used to mouse & keyboard style, but the autoaim is a godsend for a noobstick virgin like me. Does anybody use free aim? Seems fairly impossible to get fast, accurate aiming with the analogue stick.
Itching to play some more... can't wait to get out of introductory missions and into the thick of it.
― g-kit, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 10:06 (fifteen years ago) link
good to see you gkit,
i have a hunch that they've made the basic cars handle so wildly just so that they can make the better cars feel more superior. I'm still ticked off that I've still yet to come across a non-mission spawned Infernus, Comet, or even a Super GT - and I've played for 130 hours now. This feels like a dreadful oversight on the developers part.
yeah it's totally horrible trying to get an accurate aim with the ps controllers, keep the autoaim on for most missions. But I use free aim now, I prefer being in control of it that way. Hopefully I'll get better.
― Ste, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 10:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I've definitely seen and nicked some supercars - turismos and maybe comets too. Will have a drive around in a bit to see what I can find. And having done lots of multiplayer racing I can say that the faster cars don't handle any easier. I wouldn't say the handling is wild though; it seems more realistic to me than GTA III. I mean I've never actually attempted a 60+mph 90 degree handbrake turn in real life so don't really know what to expect, but to win multiplayer races you basically have to corner properly, ie foot brake before the corners to a sensible entry speed.
― ledge, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Well... I found a banshee. Ho-hum. But y'know there is a car showroom next to the northern Perseus on Algonquin, just near your safehouse, that always has Turismos. And there's a bike showroom full of NRG-900s on Lemhi st in north Alderney.
― ledge, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 12:17 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah Turismo's are a-plenty, as are Banshees. Just no Comets or Infernus's anywhere though.
'Wild' may have been a crap word for me to use. Sluggish might have been more appropriate, that horrible after over-steer effect that you find on the shit cars, so annoying. The super-cars are a delight however, altho the Super GT is slightly over rated.
Just had a shoot out with a police chopper, I like how after I'd taken out one the shooters the helicopter span around so the shooter on the otehr side could have a go. Took him out as well, the chopper flew away.
― Ste, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 12:31 (fifteen years ago) link
I just found a Comet, upper west side, just parked on one of the main roads.
― JimD, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link
cool. what were you driving at the time? wondering if it makes a difference to the spawn factor.
― Ste, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link
POSSIBLY MILD SPOILER FOR MID GAME? --Once you complete a certain mission and an Infernus spawns for you, it will always spawn in that location.
― Will M., Tuesday, 27 May 2008 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link
no it doesn't, I think I know which mission you're referring to. I've tried that place, and nothing.
(B' mission?)
― Ste, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link
(i may have been unlucky, and catching dead spawns. How reliable is your info?)
― Ste, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Har Har
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Getting GTA IV has sure increased my interest in san andreas
― sunny successor, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link
looks like my info may have been wrong, i misread something-- actually unclear as to whether or not it actually respawns there.
― Will M., Tuesday, 27 May 2008 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Speaking of cars: there are two versions of the Sentinel in the game, and one of them is sportier and has a spoiler. It's definitely my favorite car in the game. It's not quite as fast as the top tier cars, but much more durable, almost never flips, and it's narrow! Great handling, too.
My trick for the cars is that once I find a rare one (SuperGT, Comet, etc.), I will drive around my neighborhood to try and find another one, because the game tends to populate the environment with the class of car you're currently driving. So it's a good way to stock up.
Does anybody use free aim? Seems fairly impossible to get fast, accurate aiming with the analogue stick.
I only use free aim when the situation calls for it, but it works pretty well for me. It's hard for me to reliably press the trigger halfway, but the aiming works fine for me, especially if I'm crouching.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah the Sentinel has consistently been a great car in the GTA series. And Vice City had a spoiler 'boy racer' version too. And of course GTAIII had the Mafia version, which was fucking sweeeet. It's one of my faves too, very reliable.
― Ste, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link
A nice touch in the game is when your car can just fail to start, instead of bursting into flames. That fateful dead sound of the radio going off, and Niko attempting to tick the engine over.
On some occasions I've managed to restart them again.
― Ste, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
allegedly if you dial 911 after your car dies it will magically start up again. i have not tried this tho.
― ledge, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I've noticed lots of 'two versions' of the same cars in this one, cars with spoilers, spot-lights, or some such add ons. Sometimes its only subtle differences - the Turismo has a version with small sticky out engine intakes, while the normal one has grill intakes.
how sad am i.
ledge, reall? i've used the 911 call to report crimes, i love how the cops can start helping you waste gangs. Gives me a community feeling yer know.
― Ste, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
'really'
― Ste, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
i had a date with Packie last night and during the car journey neither of us spoke. At the bowling alley there was no dialogue like there usually was. And again the journey home was silent.
It felt really stange and awkward, and then Jacob rang me for a game of pool and i felt great again.
jesus christ almighty
― Ste, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link
The other night my housemate walked in and found me chopping up people with the helicopter blade, to the tune of some creepy cult chanting from the "Rosemary's Baby" soundtrack. There has been a distance between us since then.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Had hueg lolz @ drunken Niko & Roman last night. Roman fell down like a sack of shit. Also tried multiplayer. So good! I particularly enjoyed Car Jack City.
― g-kit, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 09:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh man, there are just too many points in this game where its hidden rules fill me with fucking despair. You can't get in this car, you can't blow up that car, you can't actually go about things in your own thought-out way because there's a script to this mission and fuck you, we're following it. I'm on something like my 15th attempt at a certain perticularly hard "kill a guy and his bodyguards" mission, and every time I try to come up with a way of making it easier for myself, the game engine fucks me over. I'm only about 2 missions from the end of the story now, but if this one doesn't work itself out in the next 3 or 4 attempts I'm going to be quitting and selling this shit. This is meant to be a recreational activity, it shouldn't be making me want to smash things.
― JimD, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 12:17 (fifteen years ago) link
don't smash too much of your stuff up just yet, you'll need some left over for that last mission.
― Ste, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 12:53 (fifteen years ago) link
i used 911 so i dont have to go find the cops to shoot them. convenient.
― sunny successor, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 14:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I climbed to the top of a billboard sign only to turn around and discover that a tramp had followed me up, it spooked me at the time. So I walked over to him and pushed him over the side to his bloody demise, nach'
― Ste, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link
has anyone found anything worth spending money on?
also... WHY are there only 4 clothing stores and 2 the same kind why why why
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I know. Love my "disco king" outfit but want more threads.
― ledge, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, this game could use a clothing expansion pack or something.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't really spend any money until I beat the game, and I decided I wanted a bunch more RPG rounds and grenade rounds and shit. That and hospital bills and food are it for money use IMO!
― Will M., Wednesday, 28 May 2008 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I had a spending spree about 2 missions from the end and blew loads on an RPG and a dozen rockets. Regretted it soon afterwards though, when I got another big mission pay out and ended up only 30k below the "half million" achievement.
The mission which was making me swear lots above (sorry!) ended up being really easy the one time it worked. Through no real change of approach on my part...it just felt like I finally got lucky (or stopped getting unlucky). Last mission didn't feel too tricky at all to me though, did it on my second attempt, and only failed on my first because i'd been too lazy to pick up body armour before I started it. I guess that's one of the major issues GTA games have always had though, isn't it? YMMV. Wildly. And usually just as a result of random environmental differences.
Anyway, finished now! Might take a week off before I get stuck into mulitplayer (or start thinking about 100%).
Found one of the endgame decisions pretty annoying, cos I chose a certain option for a certain reason, then everyone in game (including Niko!) kept going on about how I'd chosen that option for a completely different reason! ie...
(SPOILERS)
I decided not to kill Dimitri, cos I didn't feel particularly vengeful after letting Darko live...but then the game assumed I'd decided not to kill him jsut because I wanted loads of money! Grr.
(/SPOILER)
― JimD, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, and if Xbox exclusive downloadable content ends up just being more outfits, I'll be disappointed.
― JimD, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
My spoiler response to JimD is below... in italics. Which are easy for the brain to skip over if it chooses.
JimD, flip it around-- if you didn't want the money, you had a third option-- don't do either. If you do neither, Dimitri stays alive, and shit never goes down with Kate. But, you don't beat the game. If you want to see the ending, the flipside of that is no matter what, it's a tragedy. The only way to escape the bad ending is to get no ending at all-- and the game completely llows you to continue playing without beating it.
Interesting, huh?
― Will M., Wednesday, 28 May 2008 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha! You're right, that's kinda great really. :)
― JimD, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah that's pretty cool, i like that.
― Ste, Thursday, 29 May 2008 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I must have seen the loading screen goodness knows how many times by now, but I never noticed this until it was pointed out to me.
http://www.multiplayernetwork.net/files/filesystem/images/LollipopSeries_591_1203624622.jpg
There's something a bit wrong with lollipop woman's fingers.
― limón, Thursday, 29 May 2008 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link
yes, there's a lot wrong with that.
i got bored with this quickly.
― Dy, Thursday, 29 May 2008 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link
still the best GTA i've ever played though.
ooo... 5 fingers! gross!
― sunny successor, Thursday, 29 May 2008 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link
I finally opened my copy last night. Instead of being run over by the jet taxiing on the runway, I got stuck to the landing gear and dragged around aimlessly for 15 minutes, or so, with cops and helicopters shooting at me the whole time.
― Garrett Martin, Thursday, 29 May 2008 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Why did you only finally open it last night, out of curiosity?
― Will M., Friday, 30 May 2008 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link
The end of the last mission was kinda weird. SPOILERSSSSSSS I killed Dmitri in some bushes, and couldn't even see him apart from the fact that my gun was locked onto him. I was like "that's it?"
― polyphonic, Friday, 30 May 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I found out today that if you shoot or crash into the fuel pumps at gas stations they explode. Great fun in a cop shoot out.
― Mr Raif, Friday, 30 May 2008 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link
pretty much anything that looks like it was designed to hold something combustible explodes, and frequently in different and exciting ways. the developers should be praised for understanding what is important in a game like this, on this point anyhow.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 30 May 2008 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Is it just me, or was this the easiest final mission in the history of GTA? (Can't vouch for GTA 1 or 2, or Liberty City Stories). It was a complete cakewalk.
― polyphonic, Friday, 30 May 2008 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Did nobody else struggle with the timing of the boat and Jacob's helicopter? That shit took me about twenty attempts, rest was easy tho yes.
― Ste, Friday, 30 May 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link
and i thought VC Stories was the easiest one so far
― Ste, Friday, 30 May 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link
and i thought that gta3 had the best final mission, altho i can't even remember liberty city stories last mission
― Ste, Friday, 30 May 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I loved the GTA3 final mission. And Vice City's final mission was immensely appropriate for that particular story.
Also, every single vehicle chase/race in GTA4 is easier than the very first race in GTA3.
― polyphonic, Friday, 30 May 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Did nobody else struggle with the timing of the boat and Jacob's helicopter?
Both times, I just accelerated toward the helicopter and the cinematic began.
― polyphonic, Friday, 30 May 2008 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Vice City was quite special, it almost had 3 big endings - the taking over of Diaz mansion which enabled the property second half, the bank robbery which for most probly was the final property mission, and then the final mission which resembled Scarface's last stand. Awesome.
― Ste, Friday, 30 May 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link
(nb i haf not played more than a couple hours of this at a friends)
i'm most disappointed by the lack of vehicle trick-out stuff in this! i know how pointless it was in SA, but i still liked it. wasn't there a rumor way back that maybe IV would have performance mods, like you could soup up the cars and not just give them better rims? or was that just a wish.
― gff, Friday, 30 May 2008 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link
i'd not heard of that.
and yes races in gta4 seem highly poor, no challenge at all.
― Ste, Friday, 30 May 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link
polyphonic: yes! I also had a "shot him in a bush, suddenly I'm a winnner" moment.
Ste: Sorry, no, didn't have any trouble grabbing the chopper...
― JimD, Saturday, 31 May 2008 03:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I went back and played a couple missions in GTA3 last night. The cars are about twice as fast.
― calstars, Saturday, 31 May 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link
WOAH!!!!
achievement unlocked: let sleeping rockstars lie
― czn, Saturday, 31 May 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link
http://img.skitch.com/20080531-pdd22qcqyijx6227s82hqhbeei.jpg
― czn, Saturday, 31 May 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link
badass
― Euler, Saturday, 31 May 2008 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
GANGSTA
― s1ocki, Saturday, 31 May 2008 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link
wow, nice
― Ste, Saturday, 31 May 2008 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link
I got that today too! Must be a lot of them around this weekend.
― JimD, Saturday, 31 May 2008 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Which one did you shoot czn? Mine was jimmy2646 (or something, don't remember the actual digits).
Nice!
I'm off a Rockstar hunting.
― limón, Saturday, 31 May 2008 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link
I got it! That was quick.
Kingwolf02 in the tram deathmatch
― limón, Saturday, 31 May 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link
team*
― limón, Saturday, 31 May 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link
you lucky bastards
― ledge, Sunday, 1 June 2008 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link
it's a viral achievement folks
― Jeff LeVine, Sunday, 1 June 2008 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh huh, if you take revenge instead of taking the deal, the ending is way more fun.
― polyphonic, Sunday, 1 June 2008 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link
i made my million, it's a quiet personal achievement
― Ste, Sunday, 1 June 2008 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link
xp to jeff, yeah i figured it was viral when i got it after playing just one single game, a 10 min deathmatch in algonquin with no radar blips, in which i saw only two other players, one who killed me and one whom i killed.
― ledge, Sunday, 1 June 2008 01:07 (fifteen years ago) link
what does it mean, a viral achievement ?
― Ste, Sunday, 1 June 2008 09:18 (fifteen years ago) link
nevermind i found out, that kinda sucks
― Ste, Sunday, 1 June 2008 09:26 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe, but the other way would have sucked too, having an achievement only achievable through sheer dumb luck.
― ledge, Sunday, 1 June 2008 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Zombie outfits all round then!
http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=416510
Seems they changed their minds about it this week, it's only just become viral.
― JimD, Sunday, 1 June 2008 11:54 (fifteen years ago) link
well it sucks in the fact that what they've named the achievement is actually nothing of the sort, and therefore seems largely a waste of time.
― Ste, Sunday, 1 June 2008 12:25 (fifteen years ago) link
contains spoiler ...
and just a little bug, if you ever want to take advantage of it, I found last night, whilst taking random cars to Stevie's garage.
Supposedly you get full wack for a tip top condition car. I found out that if you just ever so slightly give your car a little dent (just a really slow collision into something will do), you get almost $500 more on top of the max payment.
― Ste, Sunday, 1 June 2008 12:29 (fifteen years ago) link
what they've named the achievement is actually nothing of the sort
Well, they've renamed that too, apparently. It was "kill a rockstar employee", now it's just "kill a rockstar".
― JimD, Sunday, 1 June 2008 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Since they changed that achievement multiplayer has been working perfectly for me, I used to get disconnected from about 4 out of 5 matches before, so they seem to have sorted that out at the same time, which is fantastic.
No ladyzombie outfit though :(.
― limón, Sunday, 1 June 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Have been playing a lot of free mode on multiplayer recently. Of course you can just tool around the city in single player but it's somehow more fun when there's other real life people there, even if they're just strangers. Of course you get more than a fair share of twats just trying to turn it into deathmatch; but I've had some good times, just driving round, picking people up, heading into the museum to fuck shit up, getting police stars and teaming up to fight off the cops...
― ledge, Sunday, 1 June 2008 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I played multiplayer for the first time on my own xbox live account today. The very first person I shot gave me the rockstar achievement.
― polyphonic, Sunday, 1 June 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
how many people are on the servers max? question relates especially to freemode
― Ste, Monday, 2 June 2008 09:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I dunno, sometimes when it's full of twats and I've tried to leave and join a new game, it's dumped me back in the same one repeatedly, which suggests fewer than 16 people. Which can't be right. Why do you wanna know?
― ledge, Monday, 2 June 2008 12:16 (fifteen years ago) link
ok, got the rockstar achievement also on my first kill last night too.
I had the best deathmatch ever too, so it was a terrific night.
― Euler, Monday, 2 June 2008 13:05 (fifteen years ago) link
oh just wondering, just curious.
deathmatch is pretty decent, some hilarious deaths.
― Ste, Monday, 2 June 2008 13:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Owing to an autosave cock-up, I lost everything I did on Saturday, which means I have to get all tooled up do Manny's missions again
OH LOOK A PASSING POLICEMAN IS ANGRY AT ME SHOOTING A LOCK OFF A DOOR OH LOOK SOMEBODY'S HEADSHOTTED ME WITH A SHOTGUN THE SECOND I WALK THROUGH THE FUCKING DOOR AFTER SPENDING FIFTEEN PAINSTAKING FUCKING MINUTES DRIVING HERE IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T "SPOOK" A DRUG DEALER HOW ABOUT THAT
I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THIS
― MPx4A, Monday, 2 June 2008 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I hated that mission too. Not a brick to be found 500 yds away from that place.
I kept getting frustrated this weekend losing missions, so I just played suicide bomber. Walk into a traffic jam, stand between a couple of cars, pull the pin... the death scenes for explosions and death-by-cop are intense. I detonated myself off of the Empire State Building at one point, and the screen faded out before I ever hit the ground.
― Pleasant Plains, Monday, 2 June 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link
MPX4A: go topside, not front door.
― David R., Tuesday, 3 June 2008 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link
You know what would be awesome? a (spoiler)(/spoiler) tag for ILG that just makes the text color white (or the same as whatever your background is) so to read it, you could have to highlight he text and/or copy it to a notepad depending on your browser.
because seriously reading this back is like WAIT SPOILER UH SPOILER? SPOILER SPOILER
― Will M., Tuesday, 3 June 2008 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link
cosign
― ledge, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I have gradually reluctantly learnt the names of everyone I will kill later in the game just from people all over the Internet half-assedly going "yeah I did that in the bit just before spoiler you beat Michelle to death with a bat in front of her parents" and shit, it's not that easy to violently jerk your head away from the screen and hurriedly scroll down every time
Yesterday a Policeman saw me shooting a cab driver through the windshield so I could claim the fare back, but the cab driver did the foot-jammed-on-the-horn thing and whizzed round in a perfect little arc to smash the cop up against his own car. I went to bed and came back to find the wrecked taxi still there, full of mah money.
I have a suit and the second island, so the autosave cockup is a distant memory.
― MPx4A, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 08:21 (fifteen years ago) link
i keep finding random money, there was some at the AutoErotica shop for ages even when I went away and came back. And then ther was some in my apartment.
― Ste, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 09:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Gah I just got arrested FOR THE FIRST TIME, having completed the story. (Ok I did get arrested v early on but I reloaded an earlier game 'cause I didn't want to lose the gun I'd just been given).
― ledge, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 12:46 (fifteen years ago) link
haha, yeah it's a killer ain't it. I couldn't handle my unlucky arrest-losing-hundreds-of-weapons and so just reloaded prev game, which meant the redoing of a few difficult missions and hidden packages and lots of other things. No fucking way was i losing my gunz man.
― Ste, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link
i was arrested mid-mission but hitting the button to get into my car and having Niko swing round and promptly try to jack a passing police cruiser :(
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/liberty_city_police_face
― MPx4A, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Haunted swing set!!
http://www.gamesradar.com/f/gta-iv-glitch-is-this-playground-haunted/a-2008060415315162083
that rules so much. guess what just hit my to-do list for the weekend.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 June 2008 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah I've had a go with that, it's actually pretty scary! I haven't yet figured out exactly how it works so I can't get the massive catapult effect every time. But, in single player, if you back your car in then you won't fly out of the windscreen.
― ledge, Friday, 6 June 2008 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link
oh yeah i came across that weird swing shit some time ago, crazy.
― Ste, Friday, 6 June 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link
that bank job was a pain. thank god for kiki clearing my wanted stars afterwards
― stet, Friday, 6 June 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Had a really fun time last night playing GTA Race mode on multiplayer. It's like a much, much more violent version of Mario Kart.
― polyphonic, Friday, 6 June 2008 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link
A even more in-depth conversation about lollipop girl's fingers: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=301889
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link
i revisited this tonight, and had a lot of fun (took ilxors advice on spending attitude and went bit mad)
and lol at Kiki on the way home in the car after a night of drinking she just decided to throw herself out at high speed.
Having trouble already finding pidgeons, and still have about 100 to find.
― Ste, Thursday, 26 June 2008 08:31 (fifteen years ago) link
i read somewhere that some of them are invisible, ie you have to toss a grenade through an open window or similar shit. fuk dat. if i finish the races and the bff achievement then i might get over 90%.
― ledge, Thursday, 26 June 2008 08:43 (fifteen years ago) link
i read somewhere that some of them are invisible, ie you have to toss a grenade through an open window or similar shit
ok tell me you're joking
― Ste, Thursday, 26 June 2008 12:43 (fifteen years ago) link
-- Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:34 PM (Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:34 PM) Bookmark Link
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?s=3afa17f9ee24ab5aa91b77e11a3c5dbf&p=11338284&postcount=42
Wow I never noticed that before.
I've always ended up in a trance when looking at the lollipop, imagining the bliss my penis would be going through in it's place.
― onimo, Thursday, 26 June 2008 13:25 (fifteen years ago) link
xp yeah some of them are definitely not visible from street level. only maybe one or two. see http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/grandtheftauto4/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-43129270&pid=933037, and http://www.zbproductions.co.uk/Collectables/Pigeons/Dukes.html no. 40.
― ledge, Thursday, 26 June 2008 13:42 (fifteen years ago) link
but they're not completely invisible? that's okay then, had me a little worried there.
― Ste, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link
luckily they make a sound too, so with a good ear you can sometimes catch them cooing giving away their presence.
A nice trick i learnt to change the view slightly is to drive around in the larger trucks, the camera moves a lot higher up and you can see stuff you don't normally see in the normal cars.
― Ste, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link
I've been coming across those flying rats all over the place, but I'm not about to start taking them out until I print out a guide. I learned my lesson with the street tags and oyster shells in GTA:SA.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 26 June 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I was feeling a bit guilty for having left this for so long when I've still got loads to do, but then had a sort of realisation yesterday. There's downloadable content on the way, and it's pretty likely that's just going to be a bunch of missions. But if I get that, and do them, I don't want all the peripheral things to be complete already, that'll just feel weird, like I'm playing GTA lite in a half-empty city. So yeah, I decided I'm actually pretty glad to have lots of stuff still to do. I think I'll save it. DLC in autumn, right?
― JimD, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I turned it on yesterday and the xBox said it had just downloaded an update for GTA4. I have no idea what was installed.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
There was a title update to fix some bugs in multi.
― Will M., Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Multiplayer stopped working as soon as I downloaded it.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I got through to "Jersey" last night even though I haven't unlocked it yet. I headed toward one of the bridges and got there somehow before the game could load the police roadblock. The game froze up for a few seconds and then whoosh, I was heading straight into Alderney.
I got six stars as soon as it happened, but I just thought it was neat that I didn't have to fight or sneak my way in there.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Jim - the DLC is probably delayed until the beginning of 2009 (or very late 2008)... http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/05/grand-theft-auto-iv-dlc-delayed-until-fiscal-q1-2009/ http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53017
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 26 June 2008 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh. Well, I'm in no rush. :)
Wait a minute, WHOLE NEW CITIES!? Shyeah right.
― JimD, Thursday, 26 June 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link
i was fucking burning over one of the bridges the other day, and i swear i was going so fast that somehow the game didn't have time to draw any other cars on the road. i blasted right across a completely deserted algonquin in under a minute - under ten seconds probably - but of course i ran out of road, and when i did, and stopped (ok crashed), and turned around, all the cars had come back ;_;
― ledge, Thursday, 26 June 2008 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
That happened a lot to me in the pc version of GTA3.
― abanana, Thursday, 26 June 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
the behaviour of cars on bridges is stupidly frustrating. why randomly and wildly change lanes like that?
― stet, Thursday, 26 June 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
i think i hate this game.
― Creeztophair, Thursday, 26 June 2008 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link
I just fell back in love with this game today. Dangerous.
― B.L.A.M., Friday, 27 June 2008 03:57 (fifteen years ago) link
i find multiplayer race quite glitchy - cars shifting and rematerialising about the track - is this because my internet is too slow somehow?
― stevie, Friday, 27 June 2008 07:59 (fifteen years ago) link
could be yours or theirs i guess. i always assume it's them. and then shout at them. "stop glitching all over me! get a faster internet! fuck you!"
― ledge, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:24 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i've fallen for this game again, i guess i burnt out on it too quickly when it was released. After a nice rest, it's all falling into place again.
The cooing technique became invaluable for a few pigeons last night, no way would I have found them belting around in a car with the radio on full blast.
Just walking around listening to conversations can be hilarious
"I'm a cop, and you're a dick head!"
― Ste, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Once when I was being chased by cops one of them yelled "I'm gonna shit in your mouth!" !!
― ledge, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I want to play the story again, and do things differently. I miss Roman.
Yes. This is what I'm going to do.
― Ste, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:57 (fifteen years ago) link
the multiplayer races are the only part that holds my attention at this point.
― polyphonic, Friday, 27 June 2008 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link
i watched two women brawl it out in the middle of the road last night, with a couple of other onlookers yelling encouraging shouts. The fight was very real, with wild 'wurlwind' punches being thrown and lots of misses. Eventually some dude drove too close and the fight ended with one of the girls turning on the car driver, who in turn fled. I followed them for ages watching the girl constantly fail to land a punch but continue to chase. Funniest moment was when one of her wild punches accidentally caught a poor passerby who was instantly floored. The sound of the punch impact was painfully realistic.
Good moment.
― Ste, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 08:14 (fifteen years ago) link
(oh it ended up with her accidentally punching another passerby, unfortunately this guy was a bit tougher and preceeded to kill her. To his dismay tho he turned on me just because I witnessed the event and thus he was put to death also)
― Ste, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 08:16 (fifteen years ago) link
and my new past time is driving up to very busy traffic and dropping a few hand grenages out of the window. wooah-kerbloooom! etc.
― Ste, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 09:32 (fifteen years ago) link
another cool thing i noticed last night, i was stood on the roof of a high building (playboys apartment) and i was looking over the edge ready to throw a grenade into any passing car when I noticed the shadow of the building i was on which also included the shadow of Nico on the top. It looked really cool because it was so far away. pretty neat coding.
(not so neat coding, when i tried to look at it with the sniper viewer - it vanished!)
― Ste, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 09:35 (fifteen years ago) link
this game was so disappointing in the end; in fact I didn't even finish it, so disillusioned with the repetition was I
mine are the usual complaints: they built this glorious world but failed to give us anything halfway interesting to do in it
I'm sorry but I enjoyed crackdown a whole lot more than this in the end; campy fun with great fun physics
also niko is a total downer
― czn, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 09:41 (fifteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7485022.stm
― Ste, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 09:57 (fifteen years ago) link
i sold my copy. it kinda bored me.
― jeff, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link
it's no 10/10 anyway. I gave up about halfway through, i'm sure i'll pick it up again at some point though.
― Dy, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link
is there only one place to buy clothes for like the first 1/4 of the game?!?! that is pissing me off more then anything
― bnw, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link
it's been a slow burner for me, but I'm now finally getting into the single player. I just unlocked Algonquin, which helps a ton.
― Euler, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I haven't unlocked Alderney yet, but it's not like I feel I'm missing anything. With GTA:SA, the different places were different and exciting. I remember getting to Las Venturas for the first time and just walking around looking at the lights.
But with GTA4, it's like, Whatever. I've opened up Jersey and can see more bricks and concrete. Oh, yay. There's a Honkers.
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I gotta say that playing this has made me want to stay the fuck out of the NYC area...not so much because of the crime in the game 'cos I know it's a game, but because of how drab everything seems, with subway lines and overpasses everywhere.
― Euler, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
guys maybe the missions suck but how can you not say that liberty city is beeeeaauutiful. ok there's no spectacular canyons or rock formations, but so much detail. the weather, the textures, the shadows.. it's alive, man.
― ledge, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link
it's so gray sometimes that I wonder if the color on my tv has broken. I guess that could be my shitty tv but I don't think so.
― Euler, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
nah there are really gray days sometimes. and rain at night is the most depressing. but on a clear sunny day... i could just live there.
― ledge, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i'm with ledge, it maybe lacking elements but its still vastly playable and just so beautiful to look at.
I think it gets greyer in the Dukes area than it does in say Algonquin.
― Ste, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah I just got into Algonquin and Star Junction is beautiful. Mind you, I'm complaining about game play: I'm playing and enjoying it more than ever. I just find driving through Bohan pretty grim, which is intended I'm sure but kinda turns me off a bit too.
― Euler, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link
er, make that I'm not complaining about game play
ah yes, when I said Dukes I meant Bohan, yes it's pretty grey even on the good days there.
― Ste, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh shit Carmen has dumped me! All because I shot a cop when we out on a date. So now I have no emergency health boost. At least I still have my Kiki - she sent me a text message with a photo of her arse.
― Ste, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link
okay name the movie that my brilliant action sequence was off : A car chase and I'm being chased by an FiB car. Suddenly I quickly spin my car around 180 and slammed into reverse whilst at the same time shooting through the windscreen of the FiB car.
(ok i didn't manage to quite pull it off, and i got killed but i know i've seen it in a film before)
― Ste, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Die Hard 3
― The Yellow Kid, Thursday, 3 July 2008 03:33 (fifteen years ago) link
How does this game compare to GTA:SA?
― kingfish, Thursday, 3 July 2008 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Here's my review of the story mode:
GTA 4 is really great, but also a huge disappointment. There are a lot of big improvements in terms of graphics, physics, etc., game dynamics, etc., and the Choose Your Own Adventure-style of plot development feels nice, even if it's obvious that the choices don't really affect anything important. And I think some of the characters have a more sophisticated arcs than those in previous games.
But the problem is that not of those things make the video game more fun. And some weird dissonance happens when Niko is being a gentleman in one scene and stabs a random stranger in the face in the next. It was easier to overlook with CJ and Vercetti because they were more cartoonish in their rendering.
In terms of driving and killing, all of those aspects are pretty solid. The lack of bicycles and airplanes and jetpacks is a pretty big bummer, and the boating is really underdeveloped.
Also, while I think IV has the best map of any of the games, you can't help but miss the open roads and country settings of the last game.
The radio stations are pretty boring, so I usually just play my own music off my portable hd.
Also: I miss the fat/thin/buff thing, the more-diverse clothing options, the katana, etc. The comedy shows suck. Going to the strip club makes me feel gross. The story is kinda boring and overserious. Many of the major characters are grating.
Also, the dudes who play multiplayer are more annoying than usual, but some of the modes are fun.
Meanwhile, San Andreas was just pure, unadulterated fun for me.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 3 July 2008 06:07 (fifteen years ago) link
"not many of", rather
― polyphonic, Thursday, 3 July 2008 06:08 (fifteen years ago) link
See, I liked GTA:SA's map better. Now, imagine if they had just used Los Santos as the setting and stretched it to the size of San Andreas, and that's what you get in Liberty City. I was still holding out that they'd come up with a GTA where you could drive across the country. I had an open mind when the decision came out that they were going to compress all that into one city, but damn. You don't feel like you're going anywhere new when a new part of the map opens up. I was all excited about opening up the Manhatten part after a mission and except for being able to jump off of the Empire State Building now and buying a tie, it's pretty much just like the first part of the game.
I'm still adjusting to the realness of the game too. Anyone who's criticized violence in video games before could actually become an advocate for GTA4. Violence has repercussions. When you shoot someone and they don't die, they crouch over and limp away. Sometimes, even a character who's officially "dead" will still stir on the ground and move, like he's entering his final death throes. You can shoot all the cops you want, but boy, they're not going to let you get away with it for too long. And it's still a bit disconcerting to be roaring through Bohan in a stolen sedan and hit a Jewish cleric across your hood.
(Has anyone noticed that you can't point-and-aim at a stripper? You can bring up the "rings" on any of the bouncers or patrons, but not the girl onstage. It was almost like the gamemakers saying to the player "What are you doing?")
Kingfish, my wife played GTA4 for a bit and then went right back into GTA:SA. SA has more to do, a goofier (and more fun) plot, graphics that are realistic but not so realistic that you expect to see at any minute a rolling baby carriage careening down some steps Battleship Potemkin style.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link
I never played San Andreas so I have no point of comparison. I played a little Vice City but it was on PC and with the mouse it was really hard. I think the story in GTA4 is great so far. Niko is a scumbag, as is everyone else you meet. I do a lot of driving around and that can get tiring, but I could take cabs or the subway instead. The radio stations are great: I'm loving The Journey in particular, which gives the game a Risky Business vibe.
― Euler, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link
still baffled that two of the clothing stores are the same brand
― s1ocki, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link
everyone otm mostly, especially PP about the strict cops and violence not being an easily accessible activity anymore.
i think the biggest damning is the severe lack of races, in a game called GTA you'd think car driving missions would be big on it's list.
Even side race missions are non existent here, like in SA you had the stadium races, the street races, the checkpoint races like the downhill mountain bike ones amongst the many many other hidden ones.
What do we get in GTA4? some really lame races, not even that many, which are so easy you wouldn't believe. And the prize for winning them? almost fuck all.
In comparison SA wipes the floor with it really, but there's still something beautiful about exploring this new Liberty City.
― Ste, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link
and plus on San Andreas PC version we get MTA which is quite easily the best multiplayer gta race mode ever, sorry but gtaiv multiplayer races are laaaame.
― Ste, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I would like the next game to be Vice City done in this new glorious graphics engine, and for them to pull their finger out with the gameplay.
― Ste, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link
I think a new Vice City would be great! I don't really care about NYC, but hate Florida (former resident) and would love to go wild down there.
― Euler, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
The severe lack of races has always been one of GTA's high points! If you want em, you could always go get every other car game in the world.
(hence Vice City's worst feature = that sodding unbeatable race in the bank heist missions. And it's best feature = being able to hide a superfast car around the first corner and piss through it)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm kinda hitting a wall about 65% done, with all my open missions being slog-through-em-shoot-everybody efforts.
― stet, Thursday, 3 July 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link
See, I liked GTA:SA's map better.
I really struggled to express this last night, as I was high as shit, but what I mean is that the map is the most sophisticated use of space of any of the games. The space has a lot of levels ... you can be on a bridge, then fall to road overlooking the docks, and then fall down to the docks, etc. There are lots of tunnels and underground areas. San Andreas was good at this as well but not as good... IV just packs more detail into the space, which is appropriate for a story about New York.
So it makes it that much more jarring that when you're in the space, there's nothing to do. Every storefront is boarded up or papered up with fake b.s. It looks good from afar but not up close.
I agree that the map for SA is more fun, and I guess that means it's better in the long-run, but I admire the creativity and compression that went into IV's map.
Vice City, by comparison, makes almost no use of height differences or underground spaces at all. GTA III was arguably a better map than VC in that respect.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 3 July 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link
The problem with GTA IV's races is that they're too easy. I didn't even come close to losing any of them, and I really had to battle to beat some of the races in SA and VC.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 3 July 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
shit, i come on this thread and think people are talking about a different game than the one i've been playing. very few of the complaints here make much sense to me, other than the variety of missions (and races and other side missions) being a bit limited.
i'm fighting against the tide here and, as they say, trying teach a pig to sing wastes your time and annoys the pig so i am not going to even bother arguing my case, but for me this is clearly a better game than any in the series before.
people on this thread be crazier than the syrup on meat thread.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 3 July 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I found our you cant sleep with Kate, and more by looking up 'sleep with kate' on the internet. Bit of a spoiler.
Oh, and if you get in a relationship with one of the love match girls she can drop your wanted level by one.
― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 3 July 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Kiki will clear it, except when she won't.
― stet, Thursday, 3 July 2008 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I had to clear 3 stars last night and it was tough! but actually driving through Algonquin makes it easier because you can drive on long straightaways really fast, and then turn on a side street for the last step. I did the awesome "old hospital" mission last night, that's how I made it to 3 stars.
― Euler, Thursday, 3 July 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link
BTW, I'm signing into XBOX live this weekend with the free month that came with the game. How will I find an ILXor to go play darts with?
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 3 July 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah the old hospital mission, that took me a while until I realized to run out of the hospital immediately instead of duck and cover and slowly moving out while fighting the police.
and uh, the darts game is beyond simple. its like tic tac toe
― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 3 July 2008 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm cop bashing a lot lately, so I'm rarely with anything less than 3 stars. Losing them has become part of my gta life now.
― Ste, Thursday, 3 July 2008 23:56 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah darts is pretty pointless. I'm loving pool now though, I regularly take Jacob out for a few frames. Him and Brucie are my fave buddies purely because their dialogue is amazing.
― Ste, Thursday, 3 July 2008 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I've only got time for Jacob because he's the only one who has had my back out of nothing more than friendship. Everyone else gets a "yes" then a "sorry have to cancel".
One tip/bug I've just learned about is that if you're driving, take out the phone and highlight the camera option. When you press A to activate it, you instantly come to a dead halt.
― stet, Friday, 4 July 2008 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link
What do I have to do to get Jacob to show me his stash of weapons?
― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 4 July 2008 06:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Be friendly to him. When you get past 80% friendliness, an option appears on your phone under his number for "guns". Choose it and he'll tell you where to meet him.
― stet, Friday, 4 July 2008 12:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Which is sometimes miles away, and the discount is hardly worth it (unless you're skint I guess). You may as well just buy weapons from the shops.
― Ste, Friday, 4 July 2008 12:27 (fifteen years ago) link
also, wasn't Brucie constantly bragging how he could give me lift in his chopper any time? I don't seem to be able to find this option on his phone profile, only the rather tedious sight seeing task.
― Ste, Friday, 4 July 2008 12:28 (fifteen years ago) link
I did enjoy Stevie's car finding missions tho, at least with these you were able to use your intelligence to some level. Missions annoy me when they involve some clever thinking, but then the game goes and tells you how to do it anyway !
― Ste, Friday, 4 July 2008 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link
You've got to be 85%+ with Brucie for the chopper. And it's rarely useful in a pinch, because you've got to get to the top of some nearby building, or a clear area. He never lands on the roof you're on.
― stet, Friday, 4 July 2008 12:56 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm 100% with Brucie babe, must be a bug.
― Ste, Friday, 4 July 2008 13:36 (fifteen years ago) link
I still like hangin' out with Dwayne, such a fun guy. "My father died and you know what I felt? Nuthin'".
― ledge, Friday, 4 July 2008 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I loved hearing Brucie on a radio ad the other night, for his car service. At least I had some idea then where he gets all that cash!
― Euler, Friday, 4 July 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Fuck yes, found my Comet and Super GT etc cars. You just have to keep trying Brucie's races, until your openents turn up in good cars.
― Ste, Friday, 4 July 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Also you can rack up the good cars by driving at speed from one area to a safe house in another area. The one in the second island is great for this -- you turn up at the house and there's two or three of whatever you're driving there.
Though I've noticed that cars are disappearing from outside my houses, now I've four of them -- one of them is always empty when I get back to it a day or two later.
― stet, Friday, 4 July 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link
er, driving at speed in one
Okay. I've played a few multiplayer games online and it rocks. I prefer auto aim on, but whatever. Spanky911 is a bad ass mofo.
I even shot a rockstar!
We need to get together on this thing.
― Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 5 July 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm polyphonique on xboxlive
― polyphonic, Saturday, 5 July 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Sorry to buzzharsh, but no you didn't. Check upthread for details.
(If it makes you feel better, I fell for it too).
― JimD, Saturday, 5 July 2008 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link
I even shot a guy who shot a guy who shot a guy who shot a guy who shot a guy who shot a guy who shot a rockstar!
(Knew there was a trick.)
I play under rabbitwithfangs. How do we find each other?
I'm a n00b.
― Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 5 July 2008 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Our XBox isn't on the internets yet, so I am also a noob.
― stet, Sunday, 6 July 2008 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I played this shit until 3 am last night. I felt kind of like a geezer with the freakin' soprano voices on there until some old dude pops up and goes "hey guyz, meet me at the airport and I'll show you this cool glitch I found."
It was a pretty cool glitch though. You can go inside the airport and shoot people but they can't shoot you back.
Still. I felt a little like this guy.
― Pleasant Plains, Sunday, 6 July 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I'll play some GTA online, but only with ilxor dudes... I am on as cozeny; invite me (even if I'm playing CoD4, which I will be)
― czn, Sunday, 6 July 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah I'll play GTA online; my xbox gamertag is REDACTED; I'll probably play some tonight---played multi last night because I am finding the job interview mission extremely frustrating, probably on my 8th try now.
― Euler, Sunday, 6 July 2008 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't even know there was a I Love Games board...
This game online is pretty cool, but it's hard to find people to play who are not semi-retarded it seems, though once I started a game and then I got to shoot a Rockstar. He didn't talk back.
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 10 July 2008 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I use the same nick by the way, shout if we meet!
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 10 July 2008 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link
It's hard for me to find people who don't kick my ass.
I am not loving multi games on huge maps. You die, you regen way away from everyone, and it takes 5 minutes to find the killing again.
― Euler, Thursday, 10 July 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link
i should really get myself online more. my ps3 name is ste_teh_pea
driving around a lot in the in-car view, which means you get to see more of the 'verticle' and it's fairly exciting at high speeds.
only 90 pigeons to go! my addiction level "Choose life"
― Ste, Friday, 11 July 2008 12:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I'll be on this weekend under rabbitwithfangs.
― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 11 July 2008 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i am often on, on the xbox 360, being pwned by n00bs, as stevietonychick
― stevie, Friday, 11 July 2008 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link
So what is the prefered game mode? I've been playing some Team Mafiya and if you find good teams it can be pretty rewarding
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I've just been doing Deathmatch and Free Mode.
Places you don't want to be during a Deathmatch: A ladder.
― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link
i went from cops 'n' crooks to races to deathmatch (with copious hangman's noose inbetween to cash up) but seem to have tired of them all... have just been playing freemode recently (and not that recently either).
― ledge, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link
deathmatch is good fun, i found to be the best mode.
i found a strange area last night, upon some roofs in Bohan. I went up a high ladder, some rooves were linked by some large wooden ramps. There were quite a few, the last one ramped off into the road. Suspicously like a unique jump but there didn't seem any possible way of getting a bike up there?
― Ste, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link
All right you little Nikos, I came to this thread to take names. Let's do some murder and mayhem. Also some car races at the airport.
So expect some little invites tonight after I watch "The Soup" and call my sister.
― Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 12 July 2008 03:02 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm losing track over who's xbox and who's ps3 now.
I'm PS3. my name is "katrobot". add me up and stuff.
― g-kit, Saturday, 12 July 2008 09:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm napawo72 on ps3. Mainly on COD4 at the moment though.
― nate woolls, Saturday, 12 July 2008 12:23 (fifteen years ago) link
I came in fourth on a deathmatch last night! Killing is becoming my business. I think it's mostly because it was Friday night and so I was left with the pre-teens, who don't have the mad skilz of the college stoners who usually treat me like kleenex.
― Euler, Saturday, 12 July 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link
i am a fan of team deathmatch, and of cops and crooks. was into gta race, but am AWFUL at it, and prefer the team dynamic. best is when team deathmatch devolves into a series of pitch battles with respawns near the conflict.
― stevie, Sunday, 13 July 2008 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link
i like cops and crooks. i hate auto-aim games. what's the point?
― g-kit, Monday, 14 July 2008 08:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Because my hands are steady enough to follow someone down the street, that's why!
― Pleasant Plains, Monday, 14 July 2008 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link
aren't
I know, it's seriously difficult to free aim with a noobstick. But surely that's half the fun?
― g-kit, Monday, 14 July 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link
the 'game chooser' gets to choose whether auto aim is on don't they? Whoever that may be.
― Ste, Monday, 14 July 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link
also gta auto-aim still gives you a bit of manual control, headshots aren't automatic.
― ledge, Monday, 14 July 2008 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah.
I do like the ability to lock in with auto aim and then slowly release into free aim. At least give me the ability to point the gun at who I'm chasing without waving the rifle in the air like it's an antenna.
― Pleasant Plains, Monday, 14 July 2008 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link
I tried, what, 15 seconds of an auto-aim off games and cried "i cant do it! i cant do it!" and stomped off.
― sunny successor, Monday, 14 July 2008 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link
playing hangman's noose and hanging around at the beginning shooting the swat team is good practice. i started off averaging < 10 kills and got up to > 20, and my deathmatch play definitely improved.
― ledge, Monday, 14 July 2008 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link
On which of the multi modes do you find it necessary to use the Mic? Because I kinda hate talking to 12 year olds over the mic, but I want to try e.g. cops and crooks.
― Euler, Monday, 14 July 2008 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link
it's pretty handy for cops n crooks, vital for the three co-op modes (hangman's noose, bomb da base, deal breaker)
general dm aiming tips - get assault rifle, get cover (even crouching in open air removes yr radar blip i think), zoom in, aim for the head, short bursts (don't hold down the trigger), health reticule shows if yr aim is good so stop firing if you donit see it.
i still get one shot killed by dudes i've been pumping lead into for 30 seconds though ;_;
― ledge, Monday, 14 July 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
original Tomb Raider lock-on aiming system still the best
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 14 July 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link
god can you imagine shooting those spiders without it? I could barely see those things.
― sunny successor, Monday, 14 July 2008 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't believe crouching removes your radar blimp? Still a good idea though
I hate auto-aim because you can't use it when in a car, which makes getting into cars kind of pointless.
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 14 July 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I climbed up on a water tower on Charge Island and shot a guy in a helicopter who had flown up to get me. It was really kinda cool because the guy wasn't moving or anything (it's not like the characters have to hold the controls or move the yoke since 99.9% of the time you don't see them once they get inside the chopper.)
Anyway. There's no fucking way I could've done that without auto-aim.
― Pleasant Plains, Monday, 14 July 2008 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link
my old gta housemate has finally got this game so I'll probly be multiying about more now.
― Ste, Monday, 14 July 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I tried to invite some of you the other night, but it kept giving me error messages. I got czn in my files though.
The other night, I was giving helicopter rides to 12-year-old's. When one of them told me as we were boarding, no you fly it you're really good at it, I was genuinely touched.
Still felt like a pedo though.
― Pleasant Plains, Monday, 14 July 2008 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I sent you a friend request today, rabbitwithfangs. I play as REDACTED.
― Euler, Monday, 14 July 2008 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
PP LOLOL
― Ste, Monday, 14 July 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I am on PS3 as DenaSmith - I've gotten alright at multiplayer, but I think there's whole 'nother level of player out there that I can't touch and still maintain some semblance of studying regimen.
I played a buddy online last night, though - 30 minute deathmatch, powerful weapons (assault rifles, RPGs, sniper rifles, etc.) in Alderney, and I beat him 13-2. I explained to him the necessity of having control over the cover-and-shoot tactics, and that shooting someone in the arm can actually kill them.
My favorite kill was one where I had just killed him, and I ran off in search of a much-needed body armor/health reboost. I ran in the direction of his respawn, so we ended up having a shoot-out in a graveyard, somewhere in Alderney. I ducked behind a tomb, with only a quarter of my health left, and only a pistol. He had me pinned pretty effectively, but I headshot him on a reload pause.
He was so pissed, he called a friend of ours and offered to sell his PS3 and the game to him that night. Thankfully, he didn't.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 16 July 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm adding all the PS3 owners on this thread as a friend, hope that's ok. I'm napawo72.
― nate woolls, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link
i play on xbox live as tehdead, haven't tried multi with gta though
― bnw, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Totally cool. It may be a week before I next log on, but I'll be back in full effect come August.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 16 July 2008 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
what is the ilx ps3/360 split, btw? i am 360.
― stevie, Thursday, 17 July 2008 11:16 (fifteen years ago) link
POLL
― g-kit, Thursday, 17 July 2008 11:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Should the poll be on ILE?
― Will M., Thursday, 17 July 2008 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm on 360, and be warned i just won my first deathmatch game whatever the hell that means
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 19 July 2008 01:48 (fifteen years ago) link
it means you are a man.
― s1ocki, Saturday, 19 July 2008 04:30 (fifteen years ago) link
lol i had a dream last night that they were running an advert on tv for gta multiplayer, which showed hundreds of people (in game) dressed exactly the same all pouring out the back of an ice cream truck, and then someone pushing a shopping trolley with more people in the trolley. They all looked like they were having fun at least.
― Ste, Saturday, 19 July 2008 09:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I was tood on hanger lane platform last night and a pigeon was cooing behind me, cue me looking round to try and take out the bugger.
― Porkpie, Saturday, 19 July 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link
ok i had a go on multiplayer today, it was okay. I like the car jack games.
i had a long go on free roam, which was more interesting. some dude came up to me and I'm sure he had a monkey head. And he was able to speak to me, in a generic greeting kind of way - how'd he do that ?
― Ste, Saturday, 19 July 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link
and a petrol bomb dropped from a moving car is a great weapon in multiplayer
― Ste, Saturday, 19 July 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
top left trigger (i forget the silly names they give these buttons) for generic greeting, if yer lucky it occasionally comes up with something obscene.
― ledge, Saturday, 19 July 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link
ah cheers
just played again, did a fantastic snipe on somebody else sniping. BOOM
― Ste, Sunday, 20 July 2008 01:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm gonna be on this thing later. rabbitwithfangs.
― Pleasant Plains, Sunday, 20 July 2008 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link
"My minds tellin me nOOOooooooo, but my body, my BODY's tellin me yeas"
― Ste, Monday, 21 July 2008 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I came across a very random ped sitting on the wall of one of the freeways, smoking a cigarette, so i did the decent thing and shot her. The physics was brilliant, the shot sent her toppelling backwards over the wall and tumbling down the cliff side into the water.
wot a larf
― Ste, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 12:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Does anybody on here play multiplayer for PS3? I can't go get any other games just yet, and would like to develop a team of folks I know to go take on groups of randoms.
I'm loving Team Mafyia work, as well as turf war, but don't have enough people to populate a large team.
― B.L.A.M., Friday, 25 July 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i'm gonna be online in a few minutes, never played team mafiya though.
― nate woolls, Friday, 25 July 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.gamesradar.com/video/v-2008060611222593060
― stevie, Monday, 28 July 2008 08:22 (fifteen years ago) link
after a typical chaos causing expedition in Time Square, I noticed a cop decided to give chase by commandeering a bus! Was kinda funny because I was in a bus too.
― Ste, Thursday, 7 August 2008 08:49 (fifteen years ago) link
and i got slightly worried with my friend who came around last night, she was all "hit him, knock him to the floor, don't kill him just stand near him and frighten him, now follow him yeah yeah intimidate him, now trip him up, he's on the floor now kick him! " etc
err..
― Ste, Thursday, 7 August 2008 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link
aaaaaaaaaand it's coming to PC !!!!!
― Ste, Friday, 8 August 2008 08:00 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/#?page=news&story=story40
GRAND THEFT AUTO IV COMING TO PC
Grand Theft Auto IV will be arriving on the PC this November, bringing all of the rich, immersive narrative experience found in the console versions, along with newly expanded multiplayer just for the PC. Grand Theft Auto IV for the PC debuts on November 18th in North America and on Novermber 21st in Europe. Stay tuned in the coming weeks for more details.
― kingfish, Monday, 11 August 2008 04:29 (fifteen years ago) link
looking forward to playing this FINALLY tonight.
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 11 August 2008 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link
-- czn, Saturday, May 31, 2008 4:48 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Link
I got this the first time I logged in off the first guy I killed O_O He/she was terrible. Crashed their car right be and just sat there as I gunned 'em down.
― bnw, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Heh heh. Never gets old.
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link
ultimately, do we all agree this was sort of a let-down?
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah I'm considering selling my copy unless I can really get into the multi stuff soon
― Euler, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link
it's a fine game, but the ridiculously positive reviews kinda hurt it.
― Garrett Martin, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link
i got what i wanted and more besides. do not understand the problems that people have with this game. lots of little quibbles, some more legitimate than others, that don't add up to anything nearly enough to break the game. and the mp onilne is probabaly the best and most varied i have experience.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link
It has been a let-down.
The graphics are great, but it wasn't GTA-y enough for me.
It was never the violence that appealed to me really. It was the humor of it, and the way a game about a South-Central gangsta could turn into a Repo Man Area 51 hijinx caper with hippies and Elvis.
Some folks have said that things like the rocket booster pack was too over the top, but exploring four boroughs of a city that offers pretty much the same wet docks and project flophouses in each nook and cranny just didn't do it for me. I liked flying a helicopter from Los Santos across Mt. Shasta to San Fierro, or hitting a desert plateau at sunrise with Humble Pie roaring in the background.
I dunno. I can't stop saying how great everything looks in GTA4. But yeah, somehow it was a let-down.
(Multiplayer would be fun, but I can't keep up with those players born during the Bush I administration.)
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link
i went through a great 'let down' feeling of this game just after the final mission, griping about lots of stuff that should have been included, and how different it was to previous gta's.
i was still playing it though, and now i'm back to loving it again.
On the whole I haven't been let down.
― Ste, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link
and yeah, even though i don't multiplay it all that much - the multiplayer modes are the best i've seen in any game
― Ste, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
As with most of the GTA games they did a PERFECT job of making me super interested, and LOVING the first part of it, but by the end I merely... liked it? And once I beat it it left NO taste in my mouth. Barely thought about it again post-beating. The only exception was San Andreas. Have I said this before? I may have.
― Will M., Wednesday, 20 August 2008 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I still like it a lot but haven't finished it.
needs more fun side missions. less "go drink with Dwayne or he's gonna send you a sad face message." more environmental changes that stick. more driving missions that are kill or be killed. and the mission redo part needs the fast forward option back.
― bnw, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I've played three GTAs (III, Vice City, IV), and IV is the only one I've liked enough to play for more than a few hours. Maybe it was the slightly more sympathetic character, or the better soundtrack options, or improved graphics, but I like IV more than I thought I would. It's definitely not the controls, which were my biggest problem with the older ones, and which were only slightly improved with IV.
― Garrett Martin, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link
there was some great stuff for sure but it really felt like a beautifully-constructed set with nothing to do
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link
it's kind of evil to present you with a city that seems so realistic except you can't really do ANYTHING with it besides knock people over, get chased by cops, and trigger animations at various businesses. and not even that many of them.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link
it LOOKS like a world but doesn't feel like one. like a weird purgatory.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
ha WELCOME TO NEW JERSEY
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, but doesn't the "realistic world w/ nothing to do" complaint fit with the previous GTAs, too?
isn't that also one of the half-assed defenses of No More Heroes' lackluster overworld, that it's a parody of how little freedom the various GTA's open-world environments actually provide you with?
― Garrett Martin, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
One thing this game got me thinking about is how I should go back and start playing "The Warriors" again.
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link
amazes me how the cops can find a path to you. Like in playboys house, the cops will climb the stairs in the building opposite just to take a pop at you.
i've been enjoying the vigilante gang-warfare missions lately, these and the criminals on foot missions are a great way to top up your weapons.
and held a huge seige in my house on broker last night, just standing inside loose aiming at the door with shotgun and pistols. Many many dead and some horrific explosions outside sending policemen flying through the door. It all ended when one plucky cop just came running in all the way up to me and knocked me down with the butt of his rifle.
much fun still
― Ste, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 09:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I've hit a bit of a Call Of Duty 4 wall so I picked this up again this week. I wish I liked it more than I do. I think my biggest problem with it is that I find the controls just so awkward. Maybe I just need to spend more time with it.
― nate woolls, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 09:59 (fifteen years ago) link
well i've played this thing for hours and I'm still grumbling with some of the combat controls tbh. driving is a doddle now though.
― Ste, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah I love driving, the cars handle beautifully. Shooting while driving though - that's a different matter.
― nate woolls, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 10:16 (fifteen years ago) link
i hate not being able to aim without firing off a round, with shooting from cars.
sometimes the button response in combat becomes ridiculous when things get busy on screen, and you end up pressing overly much - obv causing more stress.
― Ste, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 10:30 (fifteen years ago) link
One thing that I do ALL THE FUCKING TIME is jumping out of moving cars. Why do I keep pressing that triangle button? Why??
― nate woolls, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 10:32 (fifteen years ago) link
lol mutlpiayer racing chat:
"how come you're all so fast?" "use your boost, press triangle"
― ledge, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 10:55 (fifteen years ago) link
lol akin to the old f10 gag on counterstrike et al
― Ste, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 12:26 (fifteen years ago) link
or "type 'gg 16000' in the console for extra money!"
― onimo, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 12:36 (fifteen years ago) link
what does that do?
― Ste, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 12:41 (fifteen years ago) link
gg kills the game
― onimo, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 12:45 (fifteen years ago) link
(counterstrike, that is)
*might have been in CS 1.3 or something, haven't tried it in years.
― onimo, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 12:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Just looked it up. gg tried to run a demo in Game Gauge mode - you put 16000 or whatever after it and it exits your current game with a "demo not found" error.
So you'd get noob: how come you guys all have better guns than me onimo: we're using the cash cheat in the console, type 'gg 16000' in console to get 16000 dollars noob has left the game
― onimo, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 12:54 (fifteen years ago) link
"noob has left the game"
This is the part that cracks me up
― Ste, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 12:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I've found a good dozen or so pigeons in the past few days, I have 45 left to locate and it's just going to get harder.
I have noticed that a lot of them aren't really 'hidden', and you can find them just perched on walls and stuff in the open.
Also my timer has fucked up, it's stuck at 298 hours of play and won't go any further but I've heard of other people with the same problem as well.
Another thing I had fun with, causing trouble with the local gangs in coney island. all you have to do is steal a car in front of them and all hell breaks loose.
― Ste, Monday, 15 September 2008 08:39 (fifteen years ago) link
298 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― Jeff LeVine, Monday, 15 September 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link
i've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
also damn it i usually find at least one pigeon at lunchtimes, today? none!
i walked past an old man and i heard him say"As long as I've got a face, you'll always have somewhere to sit"
― Ste, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:05 (fifteen years ago) link
i spied a trashmaster that had mistakenly spawned on the roof of a building, it was trapped so I decided to help by lobbing a grenade up to him to try and dislodge it.
Unfortunately it worked, the grenade landed between the truck and a wall and lo and behold the truck shot off the roof with a hell of a blast and, sigh, headed straight for me. splat!
― Ste, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:08 (fifteen years ago) link
working very slowly through the game, just took kiki to the comedy club....
ricky gervais is as funny as cancer.
― like a Song thrush on honey (stevie), Saturday, 20 September 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
i was watching my brother play this, earlier today. he was throwing a plastic cup at people.
― Creeztophair, Sunday, 21 September 2008 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link
amazing, after many many hours of playing i find another secret mission.
my quota for pigeon hunting is going sweet, one per day and an extra one today.
― Ste, Sunday, 21 September 2008 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Just started, reached my second safehouse. Question: why is Roman upset about our prospects? With the 10 large in cashmoney I've got, I could always get a favorable loan!
― Leee, Sunday, 12 October 2008 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link
"F10 for stats" still works in CS:S.
― jim, Sunday, 12 October 2008 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I just finished my first race, and am amazingly covetous of Stevie's car. It just sits outside my place, I never drive it, for fear of losing/scratching it. Maybe I'll take it to the carwash later...
― graft Veronica's limbless torso to the 'paalmino' pony called Juno (stevie), Monday, 13 October 2008 12:07 (fifteen years ago) link
what's the car? if its a fast sports car, keep it! You may never see it spawn again!
― Ant Attack |=| (Ste), Monday, 13 October 2008 12:20 (fifteen years ago) link
great causing mayhem at gas stations, as the cars just keep pulling in no matter how much fire and chaos is still happening.
― Ant Attack |=| (Ste), Monday, 13 October 2008 12:54 (fifteen years ago) link
It is a GOLDEN SPORTSCAR and it glides like QUICKSILVER (QUICKGOLD?)...
Yesterday on multiplayer, I found a sportscar with batwing doors (like on a delorean), which I've never seen in single player.
― graft Veronica's limbless torso to the 'paalmino' pony called Juno (stevie), Monday, 13 October 2008 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link
[bat-doors] thats the Infernus and i've never seen it spawn in single player other than a reward or for a mission, keep it if you see it.
― Ant Attack |=| (Ste), Monday, 13 October 2008 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Stevie's car is the Comet (the Porsche)! I know this because I just played it like 5 times (nice to see that the computer still cheats in races grrrrrr).
― Leee, Monday, 13 October 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
who's on xboxlive here? i have the BLOODLUSTT (stevietonychick)
― graft Veronica's limbless torso to the 'paalmino' pony called Juno (stevie), Monday, 13 October 2008 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link
[leee, my advice on the racing is STEELY COMPOSURE, CALM, and NO MISTAKES. i was sweating like a bitch at the end of it.]
― graft Veronica's limbless torso to the 'paalmino' pony called Juno (stevie), Monday, 13 October 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link
amazingly found 2 pigeons last night, something like 34 left. and it was only a random visit. one was embarrassingly right outside one of my safehouses.
i've found that the helicopter is almost useless for pigeon hunting
― Ant Attack |=| (Ste), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 10:04 (fifteen years ago) link
http://kotaku.com/5064303/san-andreas-rolls-onto-xbox-originals
― graft Veronica's limbless torso to the 'paalmino' pony called Juno (stevie), Thursday, 16 October 2008 10:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I finally won last night XD took me way too many tries...
― bnw, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
XD?
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh wait, is that a smiley.
Ugh that Snow Job mission (SWAT = BOOOOOurns). Elizabeta, get your own darned powder!
I hear the wussy way out -- make a mad dash out of the area and cool yer heels until the heat dies down -- is a way to go, and I will investigate it further.
― Leee, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah that took me a bunch of tries too. getting a good position is the hard part. I decided to kill every cop in the city if they walked into my little corridor and eventually they stopped coming.
― bnw, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
it took two days to download, but it is good to be back in san andreas again.
played gta4 last night though - am finding the first "?" mission to be veh hard, the one where you have to wreck oleg's car, the dude whose laptop you snoop around. any hints?
― MacElby's Puddin'© (stevie), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 09:36 (fifteen years ago) link
HMV are starting to offer trade-ins on videogames (in an attempt to muscle in on the 2nd hand market)
anyway, they will offer you £19 trade-in on GTAIV
compare this to game (£8) and gamestation (£9) and that's quite a good price
― webinar, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm not sure, but a lot of the driving missions will not let you damage the guy's car until you have chased the guy for awhile, so if you can stay on him long enough, that might help. Focus more on the chase and less on shooting him up for awhile.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Ugh that Snow Job mission
I booked it out the front and jumped in the water, swam to a less hostile location a bit up the shore, and then lost my wanted level. However, this bit from a gamefaqs walkthrough sounds pretty nice:
"When you go to do it, instead of going to the main entrance where there is a car and two guys standing, go to the very south of the island (and take a car with you for a getaway). The reason for this is, there's a ladder at the back of the abandoned hospital which takes you to the roof! You can get clear shots of all the guys who shoot from the roof from here. Its also way easier to pick people off from the bottom since enemy AI is somewhat lacking for shooting you from a height.
Once you climb up, you'll be faced with a few guys on the roof who you can kill. Carefully make your way across the top of the roof past the thin walls and you can get straight to the room with the cocaine (since its an open-top room), while only killing a minimal amount of people (I killed around 6-7). Pick up the cocaine, and it'll get to the cutscene where the cops arrive.
If you did it right, there should be lots of enemies remaining when the cops arrive. The cops spend most of their time gunning down these gang members which gives you a great opportunity to escape. Outside of the room with the cocaine keep going straight to the end of the hall, and there's a red wheel-like cannister that you can jump on. From the cannister, if you jump southwards back up onto the wall, you'll just about be on the roof again. From here, you can carefully make your way to the ladder you came up.
You'll now be outside of the hospital whilst the cops are still killing all the gang members. I ran across the opposite way around the hospital, grabbed a car and made a getaway.
All in all it made the mission a whole lot easier I managed to complete the mission without taking a single bullet wound."
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link
that was definitely a hard one. i think i just rambo-ed it.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Oooh that sounds nifty poly, I'll give it whirl.
― Leee, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/285272.html
― MacElby's Puddin'© (stevie), Monday, 3 November 2008 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
very nicely done
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, 3 November 2008 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link
lately, i discovered i can rob the tills in the cyber cafe, play pool with Jacob in my apartment, and play darts whilst drunk.
i almost gave up looking for pigeons and thought about cheating, but then found 3 of em!
(25 to go)
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, 3 November 2008 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link
That museum mission! >_< In an environment where I can't see all the enemies (and they don't show up on the radar!!) and where sometimes they can sneak up on me and worse yet I don't know where they're shooting from, I actually get physically nauseous inna motion sickness stylee. There aren't anymore missions like that, are there?
― Leee, Sunday, 16 November 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't remember them not being on the radar, but yeah that's a hefty one. I thought most of the missions were pretty much like this.
Great thing is you can return to the museum and shoot chunks out of the dinosaur bones!
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, 17 November 2008 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Museum is pretty fun in multiplay if you can get some other people to join you there.
― ledge, Monday, 17 November 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link
where is the museum? because i'm thinking it would be an ace place to lure the cops, if you were a crook, in a game of cops n crooks...
― slap bass: the ungentle art (stevie), Monday, 17 November 2008 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link
middle park
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, 17 November 2008 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link
(east side)
*nods*
― slap bass: the ungentle art (stevie), Monday, 17 November 2008 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link
oh, do we now have Trophy achievements for the ps3 version ?
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, 17 November 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes we do.
― nate woolls, Monday, 17 November 2008 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link
excellent, i'll connect up tonight. but does that mean i have to redo them for the achievement to register?
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, 17 November 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Not sure. I restarted when the trophies became live, but I was only about 2 hours into it anyway.
― nate woolls, Monday, 17 November 2008 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link
oh well, i'll check later. ta
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, 17 November 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link
For ps3 trophies to work, you do indeed have to completely restart your game (by deleting your old game save).
― Jeff LeVine, Monday, 17 November 2008 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link
DLC announced: http://kotaku.com/5094332/first-screens-of-gtaivs-lost--damned-dlc
― slap bass: the ungentle art (stevie), Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link
seriously the PS3 sucks shit!
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Thursday, 20 November 2008 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link
although, if these DLC are nothing more than extra missions and considering how repetetive and boring the original missions were I may not be all that bothered.
on the brighter side of the news I found two pigeons sat next to each other! (21 to go)
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Friday, 21 November 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link
1337
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/paul.eccles/key3.jpg
― nikefanatic90: Sup (Z S), Sunday, 23 November 2008 04:41 (fifteen years ago) link
ok that is cool
― CHARMING LMAO (John Justen), Sunday, 23 November 2008 04:46 (fifteen years ago) link
that's some achievement, I could never have done it in three weeks I get too distracted with blowing stuff up or driving around endlessly admiring the graphics.
i only recently found out blowing up securicor vans reveals a pile of cash.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Sunday, 23 November 2008 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link
what do you spend it on :/
― s1ocki, Sunday, 23 November 2008 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link
use it to buy a copy of saints row 2 amirite
― czn (cozwn), Sunday, 23 November 2008 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link
ayo!
― antexit, Sunday, 23 November 2008 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link
so i started the game again today, to activate the trophies and obtain the other ending [ADMIN: SPOILER YANKED], and seems there was some other stuff I never noticed. I didn't know you could turn your headlamps on and off, and the 'letting someone go' technique is not just to walk away - they have to be flashing red and blue and then you press either of two buttons.
and i never realised that michelle never gets drunk when you take her out drinking.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Sunday, 23 November 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link
oh jeez, ste. SPOILERS or what????
― slap bass: the ungentle art (stevie), Sunday, 23 November 2008 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I was about to get mad about that too, but then remembered that I haven't even turned that game on in about three months.
― ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ ⊂⊃ (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 23 November 2008 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, November 3, 2008 3:08 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark
I love the fact I still discover new things every day. I, for example, stood in front of an SUV and shot the driver through the window, and his limp body pressed the gas and drove the car over me, killing me since i was low on health. I guess I deserved it.
― skygreenleopard, Thursday, 27 November 2008 10:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, but PC gamers are going to be getting it next Wednesday, so no spoilers is nice.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 27 November 2008 11:30 (fifteen years ago) link
it's been out for six months on other systems, I would suggest avoiding this thread altogether if you've only just started playing it and don't want to hear other people discussing this games novelties.
happy to avoid plot ending spoilers though (ahem, sorry about that one btw)
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Thursday, 27 November 2008 11:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I understand it might feature crime and prostitutes. It was just that one that I was talking about.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 27 November 2008 12:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Just beat it, chose revenge, man, that last mission is effing annoying. I srsly wish there was more than one checkpoint in it.
In other SPOILER spoilers, after I decided to let FreeDarko live, Brucie called me up to go out, sort of to cheer up Niko. Saw a show, dropped him off at his place, and sitting in my idling car, I held a grenade till I blew up.
― Leee, Monday, 8 December 2008 01:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Also: Goldfrapp's "Ooh La La" is in one of the buildings? Anyone remember which one?
― Leee, Monday, 8 December 2008 02:24 (fifteen years ago) link
the strip club!
― slap bass: the ungentle art (stevie), Monday, 8 December 2008 09:28 (fifteen years ago) link
so, any PC owners struggling with this one - according to most amazon reviews it's HELL in every way
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, 8 December 2008 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link
"I've only played the "game" for about three hours, but so far I can say that it's possibly the greatest experience I've ever had. I just completed the reinstallation mission, you know, the one where you install it again to see if there's something keeping you from enjoying your game. It took me at least three tries to get through that mission for some strange reason, but the cut-scene after it gives a lot of exposition so you'll know what you're in for, game-wise."
― s1ocki, Monday, 8 December 2008 16:33 (fifteen years ago) link
this game is so beautiful. shame about it being really bad in every other way.
― goole, Monday, 8 December 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I still cannot beat that fucking strip club mission wherein you have to kill the three managers. I have tried so many times. So I hate this game, but mostly because I deeply suck at it.
― Euler, Monday, 8 December 2008 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link
haha i just murdered everyone in the club. some text popped up with 'listen in on conversations to determine which is b;akjdskfkdjf' and i was like fuck that and started shooting. i managed to shoot the dudes in the suv out back before they got moving.
ok this game isn't so bad.
― goole, Monday, 8 December 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link
ok I keep doing it systematically, listening in, stabbing the mf in the front room, going to the back and getting holed up in that room, and invariably dying. Do I need to buy body armor, or should I just say fuck it and go buck wild?
― Euler, Monday, 8 December 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
body armor yeah, i forget which gun i used, the smg probably, maybe the ak? you have to shoot way more than the 3 guys, as soon as you open up in there all the patrons start shooting at you. i don't even know who the 3 'managers' were.
― goole, Monday, 8 December 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah ok I'll give it a shot with body armor and just going Rambo in there. I want to like this game, and I do when I'm not just repeating the same mission fifty fucking times with all the requisite driving from apt to get the mission, and then across the city to mission site
― Euler, Monday, 8 December 2008 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link
take cabs! improves the game experience by 10-12%
― goole, Monday, 8 December 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Just use cover and take your time, I think + the lock on
― Jeff LeVine, Monday, 8 December 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link
there is something sad about a GTA game being improved by not driving ;_; xpost
― MINOTAUR FACEPLANT IS ITS OWN REWARD (John Justen), Monday, 8 December 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Euler, handy tip: Kill the guy in the first room with a melee weapon, otherwise guards will come atcha at the sound of gunfire. OK, you do that. Then, the other two guys are kind of close to each other. (I got this from a FAQ on gamefaqs.com, btw.) One of the guys is talking to a woman, but before you kill him, position yourself at the opening of the hallway that leads to the private rooms in the back (i.e. the hall you'd go down to kill the last guy). Snipe the guy who's talking w/ the woman; gunfire will lure out the last guy. Be a man and shoot him in the back. Mission complete, though I don't remember if you'll have to fend off any goons/cops, but if you do, just break out the Rambo.
― Leee, Monday, 8 December 2008 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh and Euler, if you're stingy like me, bring up Roman on your cell and select "Car Service" or whatever; you'll get cab rides free gratis with a heaping amount of abuse from the peeved hack.
― Leee, Monday, 8 December 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link
started to replay this, the missions are much more fun a second time around. i don't know why.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, 8 December 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
i should admit my attitude about this game is heavily colored by the fact that my xbox is crashing routinely and i need to send it in. wasting time tooling around and looking at shit is less enjoyable under the circs, and that's the whole point
― goole, Monday, 8 December 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link
so Leee, I know you said you got that from gamefaqs but maybe you can advise a little more: snipe the guy who's *not* in the back lap-dance room, from the hall where the lap-dance room is? Then the guy in the lap-dance room will come out but not with guns blazing, and I can slay him at will? I want to be sure I'm getting this right, before fucking it up again.
Also, I will try goole's advice of just going buck wild once, because it sounds fun.
― Euler, Monday, 8 December 2008 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link
yah man i was clipping the strippers and everything, true horror. i even felt bad, after.
― goole, Monday, 8 December 2008 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
REmember that there's a door at the end of the hallway that the third guy getting the lapdance is in. If you loudly shoot the other two, he'll run out the exit and then you have to go after him in a car chase with the po-po's after you.
Seemed like I killed the first guy with melee, went to the lapdance guy next and killed him, and then quickly ran back into the club, guns a blazing for the second guy over by the stage. It took a couple of times before it worked.
― өөө (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 8 December 2008 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Euler, to put it another way, the guy in the private room should be your last kill, let's call him guy #3. He'll be trying to escape through the door Pleasant Plains mentions after you snipe guy #2, so gun #3 down with yr SMG/shottie/pistol. It doesn't matter precisely where you position yourself, just so long as you have a direct line on both of them. This way is pretty easy, took me only one attempt after repeatedly getting murdered via other methods.
― Leee, Monday, 8 December 2008 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link
ok that's clearer now. I will try these tonight.
― Euler, Monday, 8 December 2008 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe i got lucky? i took a long time shooting basically everyone in the main room, then noticed another red dot on the radar, followed it out back, shot up the suv which was luckily pointed toward me (headshot!). there were cops cars right there but offing the last guy ended the mission and cleared my wanted level. i don't think i had much life left.
― goole, Monday, 8 December 2008 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link
thanks so much for this advice; I finally beat this mission (the strip club one)! I tried goole's approach a few times, and it didn't work. I mean, I slaughtered everyone save the strippers (who continued to walk around and dance after my holocaust, very funny but ultimately bad game design) and one of the managers, who then left through the back and I failed to catch by car. They called the cops after not too long too, which I was working with 3 stars pretty quickly.
Then I tried Leee's "snipe the guy" strategy and it took a couple of times b/c I suck but then it worked.
I fucked up the next mission, a Playboy X one where you have to take pictures of gang members and then kill one. But I'll try it again before seeking special advice or just throwing this fucking game away.
― Euler, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
so, how did that one go?
― goole, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 05:26 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm bumping this for a funny messup (must be a messup?) -- went to the internet cafe for the mission where francis asks you to apply for a job. i get out of the cab and get to the door, and the place is filled with prostitues. like, filled, there were i swear two dozen of them, all trying to get out the door, doing the shoving animation. i just stood there and they all walked around me and then dispersed on the street. hilarious.
― goole, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 05:29 (fifteen years ago) link
y y i kno pix or it didn't happen
Finally caught up with this thread! Right, started playing just before Christmas but life and things have played their part in cutting down on GTA time. Are you at 100% yet Ste?
In a list because I'm lazy:
* Loving the look of it but it does feel insubstantial. Hard to spot which doors are open.* There are parts where you think good things must be but sadly no. * I like the occasional characters (such as the crack banker in the beginning) and like most of the support cast/actors. * Little Jacob is impossible to understand but full of wisdom: "The higher the monkey climb up the tree the more he expose his batty hole" * There is a sad lack of boats and helicopters. I also miss jet packs.* Close quarter fighting is shit. I miss having a mouse to swing around quickly.* The motorbikes are crap* steering is too light but the actual dynamics etc of the cars are just great.* The radio is pretty limited. The Electro is fairly crap tbh.* There is too little variety between the boroughs. Small complaint when they all look so good but I do miss the deserts and things.* Not enough weapons lying around and needs flamethrowers.* Could the armour be harder to find ffs?* MORE CLOTHES? Why? Because I'm rich, bitch!* Auto-aim isn't fast enough and always seems to pick the wrong target and take forever to flick to the right one.* Museum mission was great. Would do again in a heartbeat.* Shooting while driving is painful. Thankfully most missions reach a point where they either get out of car or slow down in sad acceptance of their fate.* MOAR HARRIERS PLZ* Would like to steal a police chopper.* Would like to enter airport.* would like a pony* Nico needs to learn to say 'NO' FFS* Less relationship maintenance. I do not want to go dating to get out of jail perks. I'm a lone wolf baby, leave me be!
the way a game about a South-Central gangsta could turn into a Repo Man Area 51 hijinx caper with hippies and Elvis.
This, for me, is why SA was so great! Basically I find that SA was more fun that this. Sure, it's darker and there are choices but I never really have a "I would have beers with this dude" moment like I did with CJ. Possibly because, as someone pointed out upstairs, I don't get the whole "I'm a nice guy, stop beating women. You want me to kill a dude I lure out on a date? Okay." It's all a bit twisted to be honest!
Sure there's more but this thread has pretty much covered it. Not sure how to do XBox live so haven't tried multiplayer yet!
― hyggeligt, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Haha, multiplayer. I was just telling my wife, "Remember that month I spent playing every night with 15-year-old's?"
― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link
It really does not bear thinking about. I've already got enough stick about girlfriends in the game. Playing with 15 year olds might be the final straw!
― hyggeligt, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link
A couple things hyggeligt- there are boats and helicopters. Go buy armor at the ammo shop - quit being a cheap-skate
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link
After playing some Saints Row 2, I'm struck by how much more difficult GTA4 is. I generally have to do GTA4 missions multiple times to complete them, and often that's meant even 10, 15 times. Yuck! I'm much less likely to want to buy the next GTA for this reason. It's just not been fun to drive to the mission giver (being careful not to run people over since if you do you get a star right away, and then it's evasion on crowded streets usually meaning more stars...), drive to the mission itself, do the mission, and then die and do it all again. If the game is supposed to have an interesting narrative, don't make it hard for me to actually do things in the game. Make it fun, and then I'll put in the 40+ hours you want me to experience. If doing quests/missions is hard work, it's not a fun game anymore, it's a slog.
― Euler, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link
i didn't think they were that hard. too repetitive maybe
my complaints are:
too little driving and too much shooting. there was not one "get to x location in x amount of time" mission (aside from the drug delivery side missions) and those used to be a mainstay, right? too many "drive to this place and kill all the people there" stuff. your friends are irritating, interacting with them is boring, and the rewards are useless (except jacob)
the cars drive badly, way worse than SA as i remember it. i don't know who thought the behind-and-just-off-to-the-left camera was a good idea, it isn't.
ever increasing amounts of money and nothing to do with it. no properties, anymore?! new york is all about owning property!
― goole, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link
an the cover controls are dicked
― goole, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
too little driving and too much shooting. there was not one "get to x location in x amount of time" mission (aside from the drug delivery side missions) and those used to be a mainstay, right? too many "drive to this place and kill all the people there" stuff.
OTFM ! TIMES A MILLION
But I prefer the driving mechanics in this one, they're gorgeous once you really get used to them.
not 100 percent yet, still 18 pigeons left. But everytime I load it now I just fuck about too much or multiplayer out.
The next game needs more rewards and more hidden missions and stuff.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I know there are boats and helicopters, just not enough of them. I also find tooling to the gun shop a bit of a pain when there should be a few more near safehouses. I've found some but there should be more maybe?
― hyggeligt, Thursday, 15 January 2009 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link
be nicer to little jacob. he will sort you out.
― imagine a super-serious, really noir mcgruff (stevie), Thursday, 15 January 2009 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean seriously, its been weeks since you took him to the titty bar.
― imagine a super-serious, really noir mcgruff (stevie), Thursday, 15 January 2009 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link
agree about the poor variation in boats and choppers totally.
there are a lot of boats but they all seem to be ported from previous versions, apart from the large Tug boat. and the coastguard inflatable is nice.
but chopper selection is poor, could be better.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I think there's an Apache on the roof of the police building near your safehouse in NE Algonquin?
― ledge, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link
What?! I must find this roof. Is that the safehouse that SPOILERRoman buysEND SPOILER?
― hyggeligt, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah I think so. The first one you get there. The polis station is near a petrol station i think.
― ledge, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link
you get four stars as soon as you get in it, iirc. and you can't escape them!
― ledge, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link
4 mayhem that an apache can cause it would be a good death. Also if you dropped off on Happiness Island and boosted a boat maybe you could escape that way?
― hyggeligt, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I think Ledge is drunk again. For a start it's not the apache we all know and love, it's some sort of gunship with machine guns only.
it's on the cop shop NE on alonquin yes, but you shouldn't get four stars when you steal it. Probably just one star, seeing as there's always a cop stood nearby.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Thursday, 15 January 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link
:(
One star? That's nothing! I still haven't maxed out stars. I keep dying!
― hyggeligt, Thursday, 15 January 2009 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I also find tooling to the gun shop a bit of a pain when there should be a few more near safehouses.
Just call a taxi! Man, they're a total godsend. Or if you're cheap and willing to wait 30 seconds, call Roman's car service.
I once picked Brucie up in the helicopter to go to a bar, but when we came out, it was gone. u_U
― Leee, Friday, 16 January 2009 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link
If you're just picking up body armor at the gun shoppe, I recommend instead memorizing two locations where you can find them. The one I used the most is on Algonquin, about 2-3 blocks away (south-westish) from the penthouse safehouse -- look for a chainlink fence on the corner of the block, there's construction going on and you drop down into it to find it. It's a pretty central location, so I pass it pretty frequently. The other place I memorized is on Alderny; starting from your safehouse, go east, north at the first street, then all the way down until you reach a T-intersection, at which you take a right. Halfway down that residential block is an alleyway -- go through that, and you'll see some chainlink fences (again!), sort of an irrigation/water overflow canal type of thing, you have to climb over that, then drop down to the right.
― Leee, Friday, 16 January 2009 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link
easiest and closest body armour is just north of the penthouse safe house in Algonquin, at the end of you block just before you reach the overpass, there's a small gap to the left. squeeze down it to find the armour.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Friday, 16 January 2009 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link
(i mean the safe house on the East side of algonquin, not the playboy one)
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Friday, 16 January 2009 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah the no missiles apache thing sux. But I've definitely got into one on more than one occasion and had 4 unescapable stars, ie they stick with you even if you fly faaaaarrr out to sea.
― ledge, Friday, 16 January 2009 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link
were you still in LOS of helicopters? i've found the police escape mechanics to be v well designed
― goole, Friday, 16 January 2009 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link
i just got gtaiv for the ps3 so im EXCITED
― tacos, fettucini, linguini, martini, bikini. (sunny successor), Friday, 16 January 2009 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link
were you still in LOS of helicopters?
ehhh i guess that's possible.
― ledge, Friday, 16 January 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
actually i know what ledge is talking about, sometimes it will create an infinite circle of inescapable police presence around you when you're in a chopper. Sometimes, it could be a bug or it could be some strange gameplay thing I haven't quite sussed out yet.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Friday, 16 January 2009 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I had that happen with the helicopter (apache?) I took from the airport, the stars would fade when I was out of sight but I'd stay at the centre of the police zone. Of course, it's 4 stars for being caught at the airport too.
― ‽, Saturday, 17 January 2009 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link
I got 4 stars visiting the UN!
― hyggeligt, Saturday, 17 January 2009 11:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Poll idea: How long did it take you to dump each girlfriend?
― throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 07:30 (fifteen years ago) link
so the DLC is 1600pts
horrible
― set phasers to stan (cozwn), Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link
am i just completely retardoed or do we not have a thread/any talk on "The Lost and Damned" plus is it not out today or something stupid?!
― Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
also if i can be bothered with it will i need to have the original cause my bro broked it?
― Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
well it's available. can't help you with the other question though.
but yeah, surprised nobody has mentioned anything on here yet.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link
i. is availableii. need the og disciii. I sold my copy so no chat from meiv. ps3lol
― cozwn, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
hmmmm
really wasn't overly enamored with GTAIV yet still quite fancy playing this.
― Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I say I wasn't overly enamored yet I finished it within about 3 days so obviously I didn't hate it or anything. Just that on reflection it wasn't quite what I had hoped for.
― Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
there's full frontal male nudity in this!
http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/JTHomeslice/there-s-full-frontal-nudity-in-gta-iv-lost-and-damned--121845.phtml
zomg
― blanka burgers (circa1916), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link
am dling this now. but my connection is slow. will get back to yzall tmrrw once its done.
― go back to ur game of Croquette ye posho's (stevie), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost. PRICELESS.
― Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
anyone played this yet ?I've also finished gtaiv although I thought it was at bit boring/repetitive after a while.but it's been a long time and I'd be glad to have some more fun in liberty city.is this supposed to be like the equivalent of a new island quantity of missions ?you're not niko bellic this time, right ?
― AleXTC, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link
According to Gamespot, it's best if you have finished IV before you start L&D, because the storylines crossover. Yeah, you're not Niko.
I'm going to wait until I give up on Fallout before I try this.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
okay, and this is important, but the choppers in lost & damned multiplayer shoot killer explosive ammo. once you get one you pretty much win - cue hilarious game last night, where every time i respawned i haired off towards heliport, only to get NAPALMED driving over the bridge.
― go back to ur game of Croquette ye posho's (stevie), Thursday, 19 February 2009 11:20 (fifteen years ago) link
are bikes really easier to drive than in gtaIV ? I am really bad at driving these (so the missions where you have no choice were a drag).
― AleXTC, Thursday, 19 February 2009 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link
ha been playin thru this, ok so far, only felt compelled to post upon getting to the naked dude. do they need controversy that bad?
― goole, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:39 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm kinda impressed by this so far. They really concentrated their development time on the storytelling and on creating cool scenarios. It has a different feel than GTA IV did, even though it uses the same map.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 20 February 2009 08:28 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, i'd agree. most missions include some little twist in the gameplay. and they're HARD! finally
v/o is really good too
― goole, Friday, 20 February 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link
I finished L&D. I think it was the most satisfying GTA experience I've had, maybe. One awesome mission after another, no babysitting, no taking dudes out to drink or to strip clubs ... just a bunch of well-orchestrated hyperviolent battles, and with well-written characters who never annoyed me.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 05:13 (fifteen years ago) link
hyperviolent battles doesn't sound good to me because the combat was never the heart of GTA games and is really not very good in GTA IV :(
― Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link
the problem with combat is when combatants get too close to me, especially whilst still in hide mode, nico just fails to be able to respond to close range attacks without performing some random action.
Also on top of that is the horrendous frame rate slow down on the ps3 when there's more than 3 explosions on screen.
having said that i'm still having heaps of fun with this game even now, and last night i successfully stole and saved my first fbi car! i sneaked to the top of a chimney tower for a snipe, at the same time i blocked the bottom of the ladder off with a car so cops couldn't climb up. waited for an fbi to turn up, slid down the ladder and in a hail of angry gun fire off i went. a bit too excited i flipped the car and had to get in another car to nudge it upright again.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Friday, 6 March 2009 10:45 (fifteen years ago) link
a bit too excited i flipped the car and had to get in another car to nudge it upright again.
I'd never think of doing that, I'd just be like "ah shit another car wasted" and go steal something else.
The next GTA incarnation needs a recovery service where you can phone some dude to pick up your trashed cars and fix them up and run up a tab for you.
― the innermost wee guy (onimo), Friday, 6 March 2009 10:55 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't normally do it either but it was a rare fbi buffalo
san andreas had an impound section in some of the police stations, your last car would be saved there before your arrest. it was underground and i remember seeing a helicopter there on a few occasions lol.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Friday, 6 March 2009 11:17 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=210301
some chat in the comments about what the second episode may contain... multiplayer on L&D is ace, though everyone seems to be V GOOD at it, thus making me feel like a n00b...
― that sounds so sad but am 18 so suck ma b*ws (stevie), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link
got this yesterday, 2000 xbl points cost me £17 and what I've got left after buying the game isn't really worth anything, so essentially I've just paid £17 for something a third the length of a normal game. Colour me stupid.
― Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Thursday, 12 March 2009 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link
this was aiight, but it was http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/H45121a3549.jpg
― Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Thursday, 19 March 2009 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link
It was longer than Halo 3 1p I think.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link
i hate on Halo.
― Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Thursday, 19 March 2009 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7957863.stm
!ban dlc L&TD
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Sunday, 22 March 2009 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
I just got this last week. It is so good! Is it me or is this much easier than previous GTAs? I find I complete most missions first go and usually I am terrible at GTA. My last mission was that amazing warehouse shootout after Dmitri kidnapped Roman, the shooutouts are way more controlled and much more strategic.
Also been using the dating service, was pretty funny last night, I went on a date with "Lawchick" aka Kiki and it was going well, really felt we had a connection, then after we caught a nice show at the comedy club this random car came out of nowhere and ran her over, killing her! Oddly she emailed me a few days later saying she felt better and it wasn't my fault and she'd like to see me again.
My radio station is The Vibe. If anyone is still playing this please feel free to share your stories here.
― Local Garda, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Oddly she emailed me a few days later saying she felt better and it wasn't my fault and she'd like to see me again.
ha! robust programming, that
― goole, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link
oh i'm still playing this, its the only ps3 game i keep coming back to.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
three leaf clover seems to be quite a trial. i think you actually have to be good at the game to win this mission.
― mmmm space tang (stevie), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
which mission is that?
― goole, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
the one with the bank job, and subsequent dramarama.
― mmmm space tang (stevie), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yeah that one's fuckin wild.
wanna know a cheap way to win it?
― goole, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I did that first time, not being a bragging douche, but a lot of people I talked/read posts of on forums had trouble with it.
I did find this easier than I seem to remember finding older GTAs, although SA was fucking years ago so I'm not sure how true this is.
― "Hey, We're Clubbing!" (Police Squad) (jim), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
yes pls goole!
― mmmm space tang (stevie), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i got SA for xbla and the cars handle so easily its not really so much fun. i love the realistic physics of GTA4, even if it means the cars are (initially) harder to drive.
― mmmm space tang (stevie), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
no initially about it for me, i was still shit at driving when I finished Lost and the Damned!
― "Hey, We're Clubbing!" (Police Squad) (jim), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
switch to 'behind the windshield' view if you can, is much easier, and funner too
― mmmm space tang (stevie), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link
yah i did the whole game driving 1st person. i never got used to the slightly-off-to-the-left 3rd person cameras
ok, that bank mission: 1st make sure you're all armored up and have plenty of the m16 ammo. grenades are handy too. for most of it there's no trick, you just have to shoot dudes in the head and keep moving etc. after you get into the subway and then "have to" come out again is the cheap part. the game wants you to jack a car and evade a 3-star wanted level, but you can just walk back down into the subway with your crew and jog north out of the flashing circle. it takes a while. once you get rid of the stars, come out at the nearest stop, hail a cab and go home.
― goole, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
GOOLE U R GENIUS
― mmmm space tang (stevie), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
for the record, i got as far as leaving the subway, before cops mash up me wheels while i was trying to kiki my wanted level down, heavy sigh
― mmmm space tang (stevie), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
that kiki sounds like trouble
― I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link
chinatown wars is a gorgeous little game
― lo (cozwn), Monday, 13 April 2009 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link
― mmmm space tang (stevie), Wednesday, April 8, 2009 10:35 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark
The worst is when they shoot your tires. I always think, wow, why don't cops do that in real life more often?
Also, whenever I see Briggs bank security trucks leaving a real bank when I'm getting out of work, I think, wow, if only I had a rocket launcher and enough time to avoid the cops...
― throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link
at the moment i'm enjoying standing in the baseball field on Bohan, and throwing grenades up onto the expressway above.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 08:14 (fourteen years ago) link
last night. a muthafucking pigeon
(9 to go)
you really get to see much more of the city with the in car view.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 09:43 (fourteen years ago) link
its the only way i drive now (though motorcycles are oddly vertigo inducing)
― greeheehee (stevie), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 10:19 (fourteen years ago) link
can't do the motherloving nightclub mission :( failed on it numerous times a while ago, keep going back, and keep fucking it up, lots of times failing right at the last.
― problem chimp (Porkpie), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 10:27 (fourteen years ago) link
steam is satan
― meisenfek, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 12:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Does the DLC in this add the new weapons and games to the original GTA game? Haven't finished it but would like new stuff.
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Friday, 24 April 2009 12:49 (fourteen years ago) link
a new character, new missions, new weapons (which, i don't think, transfer back to the 'old' game) and new multiplayer modes. it is pretty ace.
― greeheehee (stevie), Friday, 24 April 2009 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I've lost all of my save games (and for grid) thanks to the shitty xbox memory card managing to completely lose the data somewhere between jimd's house and mine.
FUCK YOU MICROSOFT, FUCK YOU MORE THAN EVER
― Pro Creationism Soccer 2009 (ledge), Friday, 24 April 2009 13:10 (fourteen years ago) link
is there much difference in this game based on the choices you make? eg does everyone date the same women etc?
also does anyone else just totally abandon friends in favour of doing missions. it's so fucking boring driving to pick up jacob or someone and play some dumb as fuck subgame for 15 minutes when you could be murdering Irishmen.
― Local Garda, Friday, 24 April 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I traded this in towards Chinatown Wars and suggest that you all follow suit. it's roughly 1384384334343151 times better than GTA4 proper so far.
― jamescobo, Friday, 24 April 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Garda, if it pains you that much to drive across the islands, just hail a cab.
I think I beat the Three Leaf Clover mission on my first try too, or maybe my second -- not many, in any case. Very Heat like. /duh
― Leee, Friday, 24 April 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I just drove in a fast car for abou three minutes without taking my foot off the gas, finally got to the end of the northenmost motorway between the first two islands and rear ended the last car I saw at terrifying speed
it immediately burst into flames and the driver rocketed out of the windshield on fire
he thrashed around in blind panic, burning, for ages, and when his drop and roll finally worked his car exploded and made him do a little backflip; more cars came and blew themselves up in the process
I called an ambulance, but when the ambulance came the paramedic just irritably said "where's the patient?", because the man had struggled to his feet and was walking down the middle of the freeway into the sunset
then a taxi came and ran him over; I shot the taxi causing the driver to flee
the man continued to walk slowly into the distance; I followed him slowly while some evocative Jean Michel Jarre shit came out of the stereo
when I finally overtook him, I turned round and he had disappeared
the end
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!http://www.palmbeachpost.com/shared-blogs/palmbeach/thompson/media/David%20Caruso.jpg
― What an ego stroke that would be! (stevie), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 07:32 (fourteen years ago) link
"disappeared, or ..... abducted."
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 08:12 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/file/933037/53480
AMERICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 12:33 (fourteen years ago) link
blocked here, what are we looking at?
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link
a walkthrough guide for completing GTA without committing any crimes
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link
he advises having lots of save slots on the go in case you accidentally ding a car on the way to a mission
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 12:43 (fourteen years ago) link
how do you complete some missions where you *have* to kill some dude?
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 12:49 (fourteen years ago) link
ie the hospital mission, where you have to kill the guy in the bed
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link
its by killing as few people as possible.
the guy is clearly a mentalist.
― stchick (stevie), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link
there is no reward for doing the game in this way; it is "just for fun"
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm still yet to use Dwaynes bodyguard option, but Dwayne himself is pretty handy - having knocked out a bouncer with one punch after a night out in the strip joint.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
is dwayne the guy i killed, the guy whose swish penthouse i now live in?
― stchick (stevie), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
That's Playboy X, Dwayne should still be alive if he's dead.
― 88, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, Dwaynes the big black guy who's 'been in the joint' and complains a lot/world owes him a favour etc.
funniest moment was when he rang me randomly saying he thought he heard his phone ringing while he was in the shower, thought it might be me.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Have really been getting into multiplayer on this. Has its downsides - glitches sometimes prevent otherwise obvious kills from occurring - but its still pretty great.
One thing that has racheted up the playability: We only play with far blips on. That way, you know SORT of where the other people are, but only outside of a 4 or 5 block radius. After that, you've got to actually hunt and kill them
― Two Will Get You Three (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link
aha, i know who dwayne is now!
― stchick (stevie), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link
another pigeon bit the dust last night, yay
i spent some time on party mode, with no other players. this at least gives you oodles of free weapons, nice cars, and no police. gets boring after a while, but if you just wanna let rip with no hassle it's a good option.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Friday, 1 May 2009 09:54 (fourteen years ago) link
fuck all the friends. fuck dwayne, fuck roman, fuck jacob, fuck everything except killing people and occasionally tearing across the city listening to "the journey" or "vibe".
― Local Garda, Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link
― "Together we could rape the universe" (omar little), Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Chopper vs. Chopper on L&D multiplayer is so fucking awesome.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 2 May 2009 08:08 (fourteen years ago) link
i find the l&d dlc to be much better than the main game - i've been playing all the gang missions and races long after completing it all, whereas i just couldn't be fussed with the extra bits on the main game. plus it just looks better, that gritty fuzzy effect on the screen. absolutely love it, is there a standalone thread for it or is this the only one? it really should be released for ps3 and pc, it's criminal that not everyone can play this.
does anyone have any details about the next episode? i hope it has a rollercoaster mission, i keep seeing it on the horizon and wishing and hoping something would happen on it
― NI, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^ am glad to hear this, as i haven't really investigated it much beyond a few games of multiplayer, and am intending to invest some time upon it once i've shifted my current workload... not that i don't love GTA4 itself of course, especially since i've completed three leaf clover...
― pen(istentiary) (stevie), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link
The only problem with chopper vs. chopper is that no one plays it. I sat around waiting for someone to show up but after 10 minutes no one did. Too bad; easily the best multiplayer mode if you don't want to work in concert with a bunch of juggalos.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
ive still not played multiplayer on this (or anything on xbox360). i don't really get what would be fun about playing people i've never met. i'm not even that fussed about playing my mates on there - this mindset will likely change completely once i try it out.
spent the last few days reading through this whole thread and i gotta disagree with everyone above saying this isn't as good as SA etc. i prefer gta4 in every possible way, loved playing it every step of the way. they couldn't really do yet another daft cartoony one, playing it (mostly) serious was the only smart move they could make for the series to progress.
i've borrowed the gta4 guide off a friend, so i can go through those extra hidden missions (the people waving you down at the side of the street, etc), just hoping they're still there once i've completed the main plot, does anyone know if they are? hope they do an extra book for the lost & damned stuff too, though im not sure there's any extra bonus stuff in that - are there no other l&d fans on here? it's AWESOME, seriously! really cannot wait for the next episode
(also, im not much of a pothead (used to be in the late 90s) but i ate some weed the other week and got pretty mashed, stumbling about head buzzing and freaking out, and the only thing that sorted me out was driving around in vehicle-view, listening to the journey, just checking out the sights, driving real carefully. made a bad whitey into a thing of joy and i'm actually looking forward to doing it again!)
― NI, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
gta4, turning bad drug experiences into good the world over
― NI, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
the Journey is great for turning every bizarre scene that happens because of this game's crazy AI into strangely moving art movie shit
I am downloading L&D now but it's taking ages; still only at like Ray Boccino on GTA4 after a year but I can only take so much of Nemanja Vidic engaging in bleak murders
was playing GTA Chinatown on wifey's DS at half time at Villa Park the other week and a cute little girl came up to me and peered over the screen to see what I was playiing just as I offloaded 14 bags of heroin for a massive amount of money. I don't think she understood but I felt dirty.
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
the production values for L&D are crazy good
shame about all that cookie monster shit playing in the clubhouse but I guess you can't have bike gang lamers listening to italo disco and R Kelly
I think there are just a couple more random characters for the expansion
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:11 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/file/955085/56262
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:14 (fourteen years ago) link
oh great thanks!
i had a quick go of the chinatown game on the ds before but i didnt get into it straight away, it's a ridiculous way to think but i kept comparing it to how incredible gta4 looked and played - i'd be best off thinking of it as a totally new kind of game i think. is it worth sticking with?
this thread has encouraged me to stick l&d back on after a few weeks away, still so so so good. i could do these gang wars and races all day and not get bored (never really got excited about the races in gta4). i can sense replaying the entire thing from the start soon - chomping at the bit waiting for the next ep. actually i might start with gta3, then vice city and SA. considering buying a ps3/2 one day to play the liberty/vice city stories (are these worth playing?)
not sure if anyone knows but does this new windows 7 allow you to play old games fullscreen on the in-built XP emulator thing? haven't really looked into it properly yet but i sure hope this is the case otherwise i imagine im fucked for playing the old gtas on this machine
― NI, Thursday, 14 May 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link
ha yeah every time i load up it's a mad rush to get him out of that damn clubhouse and away from the shitty music being blasted out, set him on a bike and stick The Vibe on
― NI, Thursday, 14 May 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Chinatown wars totally worth sticking with, and yes i know what you mean about comparing it to gta4. it can be a little frustrating wanting to look from a different view other than top down sometimes, maybe they should have built it on a different city map than gtaiv
the 'stories' games are pretty good, especially liberty city. it's more of the same gta3 but with obviously some neater coding. and the camera movements have been mended.good thing with the Stories games, absolutely loads of secret missions and stuff to do. i found VC stories a little buggy, but still pretty fine. also vehicles seem to explode way too quickly.
lol just as i speak, my walkman randomly plays Big Pun, "little did we know we riddled a man in little italy who didn't do diddly ..." frmo Liberty City Stories radio.
oh yeah Stories music is pretty good too.
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Thursday, 14 May 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
thanks ste, i'll definitely check out those Stories games one day. judging from your comments above, you seemed like one of the people most into GTA4, have you played L&D yet? if not you should see about borrowing an Xbox360 off someone to get it, i think you'd totally love it
― NI, Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
i know, i want a 360 for so many things too. it's going to happen i think
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
GTA DS is uglier and more cramped than you're used to but is compulsive and has v. creative mission design
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Friday, 15 May 2009 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link
http://kotaku.com/5270673/gta-iv-fabulously-expands-with-the-ballad-of-gay-tony
― Kennedy had just been shot and it was now 1964 (stevie), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 08:50 (fourteen years ago) link
(apologies for posting a kotaku link)
wow, sounds amazing. like people say on that link it'll likely lead to a lot of crappy cheap jokes for the jocks to snicker at but still, can't wait. bit more b/g info here: http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Luis_Fernando_Lopez
are there plans for more DLC or is the final installment? and are they both xbox 360-only forever or will that change after a year or whatever?
― NI, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 09:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I think M$ paid top dollar to make them xbox exclusive for all-time. it'd be pretty big news if this changed
― zinguist (cozwn), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 09:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Gay Tony must surely involve shitloads more disco and house stuff on the radio
I hate how this game's attempts at satire have started basically amounting to people loudly shouting that they are stupid/rich/corrupt as if that doesn't kind of break the immersion
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Thursday, 28 May 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9NEBQ0fZjQ
― mouth diaper (stevie), Sunday, 6 September 2009 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link
parachutes and new choppers, i'm juiced.
had great fun catching up with San Andreas last night, still a great game.
― Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Sunday, 6 September 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link
u have a ps3 u big dummy, it only plays blu-ray not gta iv dlc
― capn save a noob (cozwn), Sunday, 6 September 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
:P
psyched for this, have the liberty city episodes disc pre-ordered
― capn save a noob (cozwn), Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link
yah hopefully getting 360 real soon. i know i keep saying this. i know.
― Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Sunday, 6 September 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Announcement of ps3 version of DLC appears to be forthcoming shortly BTW. Box of 360 version doesn't have their "only on XBOX360" mark...
― Jeff LeVine, Sunday, 6 September 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=222697?cid=OTC-RSS&attr=CVG-General-RSS
― mouth diaper (stevie), Monday, 7 September 2009 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/grand-theft-auto-iv/preview/gta-iv-the-ballad-of-gay-tony-what-gr-editors-thought/a-200909111649481092/g-2006051014323586065
For the uninitiated, Ballad focuses on a new protagonist, Luis Lopez, bodyguard and business partner to nightclub baron “Gay” Tony Prince. As the richest of GTA IV’s three protagonists, Luis has access to better cars and better guns than Niko or Johnny, including Belgian P-90 assault rifles, C4 sticky bombs and rapid-fire auto-shotguns that fire explosive rounds. He also has more activities available to him, including a dancing minigame, randomly generated side missions at his club, BASE jumping from an assortment of buildings and the ability to replay any completed missions.
never had a problem with how GTAIV veered from the San Andreas template, but am stoked for this.
― I don't get it, did I write something funny? (stevie), Thursday, 17 September 2009 09:01 (fourteen years ago) link
looks kinda vice city to me, which gets two thumbs up
did you already download TLAD stevie?
― cozwn, Thursday, 17 September 2009 09:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm hoping the boxed verion of these two DLCs works the same way the fallout ones work.
― JimD, Thursday, 17 September 2009 10:15 (fourteen years ago) link
install to HDD and then return to the shop for a refund? I don't think so, they work independently of the og GTAIV disc
― cozwn, Thursday, 17 September 2009 10:22 (fourteen years ago) link
already have TLAD but only played a couple of missions before deciding that i shold finish the main story of GTAIV before really getting into it. on that count, well, i've still got the final mission to complete, but have had zero xbox time of late, though i did play a fair amount of TLAD online when it dropped, and the new weapons/helicopters/multiplayer options were pretty rad actually.
will probably jump into Gay Tony before TLAD, or play both parallel, i think...
― I don't get it, did I write something funny? (stevie), Thursday, 17 September 2009 10:31 (fourteen years ago) link
ahhh the gamer's malaise
― cozwn, Thursday, 17 September 2009 10:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I forgot about TLAD, I should prob give it a go. Will definitely get Gay Tony.
― this must be what FAIL is really like (ledge), Thursday, 17 September 2009 10:34 (fourteen years ago) link
wait for the discs, when you die u can't take dlc w/you
― cozwn, Thursday, 17 September 2009 10:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Surely there must be some kind of PERMANENT RECORD that I, reg delmot, downloaded these games and may do so again on another device subject to any and all EULA terms?
Still fucking pissed about my lost and gone forever GTA and GRID save games.
― this must be what FAIL is really like (ledge), Thursday, 17 September 2009 11:07 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GwhQsLzZus
Also, i only just realised who the voice actor is for Zero in San Andreas..
― Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 00:31 (fourteen years ago) link
TLAD was everything that was wrong about gta iv. do not want.
― bnw, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^ how is that so, bnw? I haven't played it, but I think L&D looks like a ruff-and-tumble grr I'm the boss game, and that was what the main jawn did well imo. What it flunks at are other aspects. And many others! But if this wasn't the Phantom Menace of video games I think it might catch a break here and here.
― antexit, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Obviously I already said this upthread, but I could not disagree with bnw more on this matter.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link
TLAD had a lamer storyline but it got a lot right that the OG got wrong -- heavy action from the get-go, more complex multi-step missions (iirc) and MORE DRIVING
amped for gay tony
― goole, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, checkpoint saves.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link
its possible that i gave up on it too early. it seemed way too talky and wrapped up in its bullshit angst and cutscenes that it refused to let you have fun. also the fact that i am supposed to ride my bike right behind some guy like i am his pocket bitch was really anti-gta imo.
― bnw, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link
You gave up too early.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link
i think you dudes have convinced me, i will give it another go this weekend
― bnw, Friday, 16 October 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean, you should at least get to the point where you are in charge of your own crew and not following anyone. Also, allow yourself to skip cutscenes if you hate them.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 16 October 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link
TWO WEEKS
― coz (webinar), Monday, 19 October 2009 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/10/total-recall-two-weeks-490.jpg
― coz (webinar), Monday, 19 October 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
i played a little more and yeah i think i gave up right as they take the training wheels off before >_<
― bnw, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 04:31 (fourteen years ago) link
3 DAYS!
― coz (webinar), Monday, 26 October 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
this is brilliant
― coz (webinar), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link
wait this happened already? I still haven't even finished GTA IV let alone L&D
What's the soundtrack like?
― MPx4A, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm going to pick up the disc tomorrow or friday. Still only about halfway through GTA IV LOL
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
bun GTAIV just play GAY TONY first, it's really good
the soundtrack is good but I dunno if it's difft from GTAIV, except the VICE CITY station obv :D
― coz (webinar), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
you're playing gay tony ALREADY?
― NI, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link
YOU BET
― coz (webinar), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
OH OH OHhttp://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5691
• "Liberty City, It's Over:"• "Next Stop.."• "Opens Everywhere March"
• "Theatre Seagull"?
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 29 October 2009 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link
i might be being amazingly dumb here but i can't find BOGT on xbox marketplace. just no mention of it anywhere, apart from a few poxy trailers. coz, did you buy the disc or d/l it?
― NI, Thursday, 29 October 2009 08:58 (fourteen years ago) link
"Opens Everywhere March" seems hard to believe.
― JimD, Thursday, 29 October 2009 09:32 (fourteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seagull_(theatre)
GTA Suffolk lol
― JimD, Thursday, 29 October 2009 09:34 (fourteen years ago) link
bought the disc, NI, it shd be up on xbl now tho
― coz (webinar), Thursday, 29 October 2009 09:56 (fourteen years ago) link
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/games/offers/0ccf0004-0000-4000-8000-0000545407f2
― coz (webinar), Thursday, 29 October 2009 10:01 (fourteen years ago) link
thanks coz, yeah sorted it now. i thought they'd put it out there at 0:01 hours, bit slack to leave it til 930am
― NI, Thursday, 29 October 2009 10:30 (fourteen years ago) link
you have to look for it on xbl, don't you? but downloading now...
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Thursday, 29 October 2009 11:20 (fourteen years ago) link
NO SPOILERS (till after the weekend? okay)
March doesn't seem unbelievably soon - that would be about two years after IV, and they'd be using the same engine, I'd imagine. Maybe it's an announcement in March for a fall release or something like that though?
― Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 29 October 2009 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link
okay lovin' this. only had 30 mins to get my feet wet, so haven't progressed AT ALL with the story mission, but the club seems fun as fuck, and the characters are a lot more likeable and charismatic than in the previous two iterations.
dipped v briefly into deatmatch online, and got a tasty of the tasty weapons. the arena must've been filled with stone-cold n00bs because i won the deathbatch, and i am like shit at videogames.
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Thursday, 29 October 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
xp it's possible. my memory might be off but with the exception of IV, they have usually announced previous games pretty close to actual release
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 29 October 2009 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, loving this too, yeah it's just GTAIV but something about it (the characters? voice work? story? perspective?) just makes it so much more lovable
― coz (webinar), Thursday, 29 October 2009 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Are my beloved L&D weapons still available in Gay Tony?
― antexit, Friday, 30 October 2009 11:45 (fourteen years ago) link
only on the disc version
Neneh Cherry - "Buffalo Stance" Swing Out Sister - "Breakout" Robbie Nevil - "C'est La Vie" Roachford - "Cuddly Toy (Feel for Me)" Narada Michael Walden - "Divine Emotions" Five Star - "Find the Time" T'Pau - "Heart and Soul" Mai Tai - "History" Nu Shooz - "I Can't Wait" Texas - "I Don't Want a Lover" Marillion - "Kayleigh" Hue and Cry - "Labour of Love" Climie Fisher - "Love Changes (Everything)" Hall & Oates - "Maneater" Curiosity Killed the Cat - "Misfit" Coldcut & Lisa Stansfield - "People Hold On" Level 42 - "Something About You" Jeffrey Osborne - "Stay With Me Tonight" Womack & Womack - "Teardrops" Roxette - "The Look" Re-Flex - "The Politics of Dancing" 'Til Tuesday - "Voices Carry" Boy Meets Girl - "Waiting for a Star to Fall" Prefab Sprout - "When Love Breaks Down" Terence Trent D'Arby - "Wishing Well" Wet Wet Wet - "Wishing I Was Lucky" Scritti Politti - "Wood Beez (Pray Like Aretha Franklin)" John Farnham - "You're the Voice"
― coz (webinar), Friday, 30 October 2009 12:26 (fourteen years ago) link
uh, want!
― Pedro Paramore (jim), Friday, 30 October 2009 12:27 (fourteen years ago) link
poll
― George Mucus (ledge), Friday, 30 October 2009 12:27 (fourteen years ago) link
the best prefab sprout song imo
― coz (webinar), Friday, 30 October 2009 12:27 (fourteen years ago) link
can't wait to be driving through liberty city listening to Hue and Cry.
― Pedro Paramore (jim), Friday, 30 October 2009 12:29 (fourteen years ago) link
driving through liberty city listening to Hue and Cry
― Suggest Gandhi (onimo), Friday, 30 October 2009 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm gonna end up buying this on disc despite having L&D, so I can get the extra radio station and not have to cripple my 20gb hard drive earlier
early adopters gettin fuccccked
― MPx4A, Friday, 30 October 2009 13:02 (fourteen years ago) link
earlier = further
― MPx4A, Friday, 30 October 2009 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link
oh this is so great. i'm mostly ignoring the missions in favour of driving around listening to sister sledge and candi staton.
this has me wondering, how much would an act get paid for having their song used in the game? seems like a bargain to have so many incredible songs to listen to AS WELL AS an awesome game, for only £15 or so. maybe the licensing wouldn't cost much though, i can imagine acts being keen to waive the fee just to have their music on there. does anyone know the details of ths?
― NI, Friday, 30 October 2009 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost woah, the disc version has extra songs?!
ha, there are mentions of vice city in the story and the cameos are great
― coz (webinar), Friday, 30 October 2009 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link
One thing driving me crazy about L&D (just playing it now) is how fucking USELESS the bikes are in a police chase.
-they can shoot you off the bike-they can ram you off the bike-the bike corners for shit-the bike can't ram through barriers-I don't like the bike-Why do I have to use the bike
― antexit, Friday, 30 October 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, but that's where knowing which alleys to shoot through is pretty helpful.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 30 October 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link
i much preferred the racing sidegames in L&D. the beauty of bikes is that they're nimble and can slip through gaps easier (the zippier ones anyway, not the lumbering hells angels ones)
― NI, Friday, 30 October 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I heard the bikes control better in TLaD? I haven't played it yet tho
― coz (webinar), Friday, 30 October 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
explosive armour piercing snipers rifle in TBOGT is off the hook
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Friday, 30 October 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah bikes handle much better then cars. you can get through traffic and alleys easier. they also made it harder to fly off the handle bars. the real bullshit is when a cop shoots out your tire.
― bnw, Friday, 30 October 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't even realise but apparently these radio stations have been cut from the disc version
Fusion FMIF99 – International FunkJNR – Jazz Nation RadioThe JourneyTuff Gong RadioThe Vibe 98.8
the journey!!! :(:(:(:(
― coz (webinar), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
mori and yusef are fkn hilarious, as are tony and evan
― coz (webinar), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
a-rab money!
wtf the journey rules
― bnw, Friday, 30 October 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link
xxxpost what's going on with the radio? so the disc version has all those stations missing but a bunch of extra songs? there's no way on earth i could put up with not having the vibe. fusion, IF, jazz & journey too, all pretty much essential.
― NI, Saturday, 31 October 2009 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Is the extra Mondeo Pop station on the disc worth losing half the best original stations for? I haven't finished GTA so I can always go back and listen to those ones during my six monthly chunk of main game but I'unno man
― MPx4A, Sunday, 1 November 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link
It really needs like Go West and Robert Palmer
― MPx4A, Sunday, 1 November 2009 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link
I know I'm a bit late to the party on this but I am LOVING Lost & Damned. I'm loving just grinding side quests, which I never liked doing on GTA4. Best game starring a Jewish biker I've played this year.
― antexit, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link
the sidequests on both the DLCs are brilliant, much better than the main game car-stealing ones. i'm spending all my time on drug wars on BOGT at the moment, leaving the main plot til i've done these.
― NI, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 11:56 (fourteen years ago) link
hang on, so they changed the name of this latest DLC?
― Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 12:20 (fourteen years ago) link
ya it's now called the ballad of straight tony
― banned, on the run (s1ocki), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Both DLCs + GTA4 = the game I wanted GTA4 to be in the first place
― antexit, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link
so for the record, the best version of Lost and Damned is the DLC version, though they put in a new radio station to make up for it?
― Nhex, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
There are a few new radio stations, guys-- Self-Actualization is a trancey techno station like The Journey (I thought it'd be a new-age talk station) and there's a new hip-hop station, and the rock station has all new songs and all new Iggy.
― antexit, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Just started TBOGT and I got back in the Liberty City ZONE for the first time in forever (didn't get L&D) - kickin' it on a bike, cruising round and listening to Smashing Pumpkins' 1979 - when it ground to a halt with "unable to read disc". Totally harshed my buzz ;_;
― George Mucus (ledge), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
The addition of nitro has RUINED the online racing.
― George Mucus (ledge), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 12:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Also disappointed there are no new co-op missions that i can grind to get my ranking up. Although given that bronze to silver takes as much money as n00b to bronze, and it took me a couple of unemployed months to get that far, chances would be slim anyway.
― George Mucus (ledge), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 12:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Damn the L&D multiplayer modes look pretty good, maybe I should get that too.
― George Mucus (ledge), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 12:24 (fourteen years ago) link
racing in L& D is fantastic.
i haven't played a single deathmatch/race in TBOGT, and i haven't really played more than the first couple of missions either; i just seem to spend all my (admittedly limited) time on the xbox dicking about in online free mode, stealing helicopters and being blitzed by helicopters.
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I love both these chapters like I love a milkshake. More of this in the next standalone GTA pls! Less mandatory man-dates and drudgery and inviting people out on a date and then shooting them in the head
― antexit, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Would still like more of the sideshow stuff that was in previous incarnations - stock car racing, trials bike courses in the junkyard, etc.
― George Mucus (ledge), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes. And more stores, or at least have stores that sell different things. The thing is it seems like R* doesn't allow you to do anything that the character wouldn't do-- semi-pro dirtbike racing, pizza delivery, etc. You know what would be cool is if you had a much longer story arc for some fun-loving Elmore Leonard antihero style criminal in the midwest or something who starts off small-time as a teenager, boosting cars and maybe a little armed robbery but mostly doing it because he loves fun and doesn't want a real job-- but he also does shit on the side for fun like racing and stuntdriving and wheelman shit-- and he gets more and more involved in serious crime as he gets older, and the story gets darker and darker, until he's like Val Kilmer in Heat.
― antexit, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah the current style of "i'm just an easygoing guy trying to get by - oh hey mr crazy guy i've never met before, sure i'll blow up a boat full of arms dealers for you" is a little o_O
― George Mucus (ledge), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
immigrants eh? tsk
― aarrissi-a-roni, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
some of the characterization in TBOGT are wacked. you deal with this Mori dude who's basically the same character as Brucie. except, he's Brucie's (older?) brother. and Brucie himself is totally pussified, but learns to deal with his bullying brother. except this story takes place at the same time as the main arc. it doesn't make any sense. this bugged this shit out of me tbh.
― goole, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link
that was brucie?! shit. i was trying to cook sausages at the same time as that cutscene was playing tho.
― George Mucus (ledge), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
my fave wish for GTAV: chicago, but taking place in -- get this -- two different times!! the old godfather trick. two difft versions of the same city, one in the 20s, one today, and you flip back and forth at difft times, one as your own grandfather, and decisions you make in the past can affect things in the present. fuckin awesome, huh.
xp yeah, no sense at all.
― goole, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link
that is AMAZING idea!
― George Mucus (ledge), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
The best one is chopper vs. chopper, but unfortunately no one ever seems to play it.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link
knees a trembling - getting 360 + all this tonight !!
― Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Thursday, 12 November 2009 09:17 (fourteen years ago) link
You forgot the sum of that equation
― antexit, Thursday, 12 November 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link
lol the man at toys r us tried to convince me that the Stories of Liberty City on xbox360 was a direct port of the old PSP Liberty City Stories. I think my sister was shocked that i never punched him in the stomach.
Anyway, like these. not played too much LATD due to hating bikes in gta4 anyway but seems fun. Both of these have far more enjoyable missions already than most of gta4's original story.
some decent new vehicles in BOGT, especially like the Buffalo. Club management is slightly remedial I thought. But HA, Air Hockey!
will waffle on much more when not posting from work..
(also got CODwarfare2 and bionic commandos with my 360 bundle)
― Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Friday, 13 November 2009 09:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Man if someone had told me L&D was all about the bikes i'd have been on it like sonic.
― George Mucus (ledge), Friday, 13 November 2009 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link
And now they have. And now I can be.
yeah you get some kind of points for riding in proper formation and everything, if you like that sort of thing.
― Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Friday, 13 November 2009 11:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Not too into the Lost & the Damned missions. So far there has been nothing tricky, just follow me over here and shoot 40-60 guys and then drive away. One, it's easy. Two, it's boring. I'm still impressed riding around Liberty City though.
― Jeff LeVine, Sunday, 15 November 2009 01:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Self-Actualization is a trancey techno station
Autechre is not trance!!!!!!!!!!!
― Leee, Sunday, 15 November 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
so... how is it, ste?
― coz (webinar), Sunday, 15 November 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Gay Tony is pretty fun so far. Hated the opening cutscene though.
― windy = white, carl = black (polyphonic), Monday, 16 November 2009 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Battered this at the weekend, as you could imagine, played it for near 12 hours straight on Friday after work. That was a good day. Finished the main mission in Bogt, although still have all the base jumps and drug wars to do.
Enjoyed the final mission, but the mission before it was an utter fuck and almost made me quit. And then on the last mission, as I'd done all the hard work and was just making my way to the final marker, I managed to get myself run over and killed. AArgh.
Lots of new vehicles in this one, compared to Lost which didn't have many (although the tow truck is pretty funky looking). miffed that I can't drive the sky crane though.
I wish they'd have given us more night clubs to knock about in. Dancing is completely dumb though and I'm not even sure I'm doing it right. so I can move either of the thumb pads in any direction i want? what am i 'holding' when it flashes HOLD?
On the seagull hunt now, with twenty left to get. At least I can hear these now compared to the pigeons too quiet cooing.
Mission wise it's okay, it started off quite promising but ended up as being just more shoot every guy in the place type stuff.
Almost finished Lost now as well, on last mission. Missions pretty so so in that one. And I despise the main character's voice, pretty weak for a so called biker brother.
― Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Monday, 16 November 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link
And on the story front, bogt, love it. The dialogue is well done and just love all the characters.
Lots of Vice city references i noticed, which might suggest something.
― Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Monday, 16 November 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link
and ffs the animations are so sluggish sometimes, on the main player. GET IN THE FUCKING BOAT QUICKER!!
― Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Monday, 16 November 2009 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
And I despise the main character's voice, pretty weak for a so called biker brother.
Huh, I liked him! But I also like Luis and Niko. Pretty cool dudes across the board.
― windy = white, carl = black (polyphonic), Monday, 16 November 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it's because i've heard the voice before, in some cartoons. it ruined the illusion.
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Monday, 16 November 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
okay, how do i replay a mission i've successfully completed, in BOGT?
― When she is finished, Reader, the vagina has won, hands down. (stevie), Monday, 16 November 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
you have to finish the story first. and then... i don't know? it's off the phone maybe?
― goole, Monday, 16 November 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
oh seriously? bummer
― When she is finished, Reader, the vagina has won, hands down. (stevie), Monday, 16 November 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
damn nobody plays these games multi do they. i suppose with MW2 nobody is playing anything multi...
― goole, Monday, 16 November 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
oh i play multi every now and again - spent 20 minutes on it earlier and got 2nd place in a deathmatch, which blew my mind cos i'm pretty crappy at video games. my xbox360 name is stevietonychick
― When she is finished, Reader, the vagina has won, hands down. (stevie), Monday, 16 November 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
So is the PC version of this any good then? I just got a new pc.
― mu-mu (Pashmina), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link
pc version supposed to be very good.
stevie, yeah you got to finish the game first. and then choose missions in the phone.
enjoyed doing half the drug wars tonight, finished the base jumping stuff also fun. i even got into dancing a bit more, winning some sort of gay dance off and then completing the bus stop. not used to the xbox controls so was a bit of a struggle at first remembering the colours.
also, i've noticed that no longer do i see the vibrant blue shadows when the sun is shining, that were in the ps3 version, but is this an xbox change or something unique to bogt?
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Don't remember vibrant blue shadows. Dancing is a bit easy, thought it might be a fun sub game but I completed the bus stop first time. Where is air hockey?
― George Mucus (ledge), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 09:30 (fourteen years ago) link
air hockey tables in both the bowling alleys
yeah compared to the old san andreas dancing game its a bit stupidly easy, i thought it was going to get faster. although at least i did find myself bobbing to the beat.
and again, races (triathlons) pose no challenge whatsoever.
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 11:32 (fourteen years ago) link
quite surprised that even after the kagillion amount of hours i put in on the original, that i'm still enjoying just cruising around liberty city in new cars for a whole evening. i guess i have nothing better to do.
eager to restart IV as i never did get the 'good' ending.
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link
are there different endings for gtaiv?
― NI, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 11:48 (fourteen years ago) link
There are two. They're pretty similar, honestly.
― windy = white, carl = black (polyphonic), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
good things about TBOGT, the Buzzard and the APC, and the explosive round-shotgun. Lots of fun.
Something satisfying about the machine gun on the buzzard, and watching the debris splinter about from a good strafing session.
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Monday, 30 November 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
TBoGT is so many different kinds of wonderful.
― open the door, there's a bag on fire (stevie), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link
The first couple missions of 'gay' were really good. Now I'm back to the same old shit-chase down this guy or shoot his crew. Snooze...
Will RStar ever create a new mold? I guess people will have to stop buying this shit over and over to force them to innovate again.
― calstars, Monday, 28 December 2009 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Is there a conclusive answer as to whether the download or the disc of Gay Tony is better? Aside from the fact that I'll feel like a sucker if I pay twice for TLAD.
Also, can I carry on my game saves from my downloaded TLAD on the disc one?
― MPx4A, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 15:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Is there a conclusive answer as to whether the download or the disc of Gay Tony is better?
I think the download is supposed to be better from what I've heard.
― real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
There you go (March 20th) ps3 owners...http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/2010/01/29/2861/grand_theft_auto_episodes_from_liberty_city_coming_to_playstation_3_and_pc
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 29 January 2010 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link
oops, March 30th
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 29 January 2010 05:17 (fourteen years ago) link
huh, what was with all the microsoft trumpeting "these two dlc games will only ever be available on the 360" a year or two back. was it a short term contract? they sure seemed to make out that statement applied to FOREVER
― NI, Friday, 29 January 2010 09:56 (fourteen years ago) link
i fucking knew it
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Friday, 29 January 2010 11:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Really? I just always assumed they'd be coming to PS3 and PC within a year or two at the most.
― Nhex, Friday, 29 January 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
If anyone feels like pwning a n00b in a PS3 deathmatch, I am nothingelseon - in NZ tho so time zones may screw everything up
― Bill E, Friday, 5 February 2010 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Having just completed The Lost & Damned's story missions, I'm taking another swing at the final mission of the main game, but it's frustrating as hell. Don't really enjoy having to kill off all The Bad Guy's hentchmen again to replay the final chase where I've been scuppered thus far - I think I've figured out where I was going wrong, but its such a drag to play all the way through to the fuck-up point that I'm remembering why I ditched this and moved on to the DLC missions without completing it.
Still stunned by the game overall, however, especially the DLC missions - the way the creators developed three storylines that differed so much in tone and subject within the same city/engine/game is impressive, though I have to admit, Johnny Klebitz and Luis Lopez were more compelling leads than Niko. Still though, while their tales were all a dash hackneyed to some extent, the storylines to all three games were strong and their worlds (and supporting cast) mostly entertaining and believable. Completing the DLC missions and then watching the full credits - especially, on Lost And Damned, when scored by 'Every Picture Tells A Story' - was as satisfying as any such moment in an action movie (and the music for these games were perfectly chosen, and light years beyond any other game I've played).
― Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn (stevie), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, I'm not a dude who often completes video games (and indeed have still not finished GTA:SA), so finishing all the story arcs (save one final Niko mission) gives a sense of accomplishment I don't often draw from my Xbox360.
― Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn (stevie), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I suck at this game. I played it again last night for the first time in, er, probably 20 months, and had the usual headache of a time. I enjoyed Bully a lot, so I'm not sure I can articulate why I find GTA4 so impossible to enjoy. I get motion sick when I play fast-ish first- or third-person shooters, especially with driving: that's a big factor. & I've never cultivated the eye for shooting that these games take. So I finally put the game up for sale today.
― Euler, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Playing this now. I like what they're doing with the characters but I still hold that San Andreas is the apex of the series.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 12 March 2012 06:34 (twelve years ago) link
have you played ballad of gay tony yet? i unreservedly love that iteration...
― brokering (pimping) (stevie), Monday, 12 March 2012 07:35 (twelve years ago) link
Not yet.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 12 March 2012 07:37 (twelve years ago) link
it hammers out any glitches that GTA4 had imho.
― brokering (pimping) (stevie), Monday, 12 March 2012 07:39 (twelve years ago) link
agreed. Things I personally like that they improved upon -
high performance cars now spawn, previously unavailable unless stole from races.missions replayable, and each mission has stats that you can try and improve upon, very nice addition hope they keep this in Vsome more varied gun typessome cool vehicles available by ringing up friends, including a tank.hidden packages, seagulls, more audible and easier to locateair hockey game in the bowling alley was pretty good.better armed choppermissions in general were more interesting
― Summer Slam! (Ste), Monday, 12 March 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
but the airport was still restricted access, which was a huge fail move imho
― Summer Slam! (Ste), Monday, 12 March 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, the gay tony characters are better written
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:40 (twelve years ago) link
i'm going on my 5th attempt of "3 leaf clover", that sort of mock-Heat mission involving the bank robbery, gunfight thru chinatown and later through the subways
first time: i died2nd time: grenade killed me3rd time: train hit me4th time: one of the brothers died
jesus... replaying a mission ad infinitum is truly a hallmark of the gta series.
― kelpolaris, Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
i remember getting killed by a passing car in that mission, had next to no health and just slightly rubbed against the car. dead.
― PSOD (Ste), Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
here's hoping GTA5 will take a cue from RDR and allow you to carry around portable bags of trail-mix
― kelpolaris, Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
you know, for health
would also like to be able to set up a tent on the sidewalk instead of having to run to a safe house.
― pplains, Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
Occupy Liberty City
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 22 March 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
I played the three leaf clover mission and with the smallest scrap of health, jacked a car and 180ed it to drive into oncoming traffic to lose the cops.
At that exact moment Stevie Nicks-Edge of Seventeen came on the car stereo.
it was totally perfect.
Best gaming moment and I kinda stopped playing after that, knowing that it wasn't going to get better.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Thursday, 22 March 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i definitely groove whenever "goodbye horses" pops on. that song can soundtrack anything.
GTA5 felt lacking in the soundtrack department, tho. i'm not sure whether it stemmed from already being familiar with most of what they offered, the lack of nostalgia... i don't know what. it just seemed both limited and kinda scrapped together, quantity over quality-like. i walked away from VC and SA with new loves for Tears for Fears and Stone Roses
― kelpolaris, Thursday, 22 March 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
whereas i can't recall a single song from my 20hrs so far into GTA5.
?
― PSOD (Ste), Friday, 23 March 2012 09:32 (twelve years ago) link
Favourite Vice City moment: successfully completing a mission and flying home into a giant rose-coloured sunrise, as Crockett's Theme came on the radio.
― ledge, Friday, 23 March 2012 09:35 (twelve years ago) link
kel, do you mean gta4?
i do miss the retro vibe of the era-based GTAs of yore.
― brokering (pimping) (stevie), Friday, 23 March 2012 13:02 (twelve years ago) link
only 2.5 GTAs had the retro vibe, tho: VC and SA. And maybe GTA:London 1969 if you wanna get picky.
Speaking of which, has anyone played Driver: San Francisco 1976(or something)? Is it worth it?
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
earlier today I posted some youtube comments about how to make improvements for Bully 2
in general I would like to see vehicles in rockstar games that are able to perform arcade style tricks similar to chaining tricks in Jet Grind Radio. maybe a tad more realistic than JGR but it would be cool if you could wall jump your motorcycle instead of crashing. and being able to grind your bike or deck in Bully would be nice
― whispering fairy tales (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
dunno, that sounds like something that belongs in the Saints Row games rather than the GTA ones. San Andreas at least you could perform some stuff on the bicycles.
― PSOD (Ste), Saturday, 24 March 2012 11:35 (twelve years ago) link
GTA IV with Portal 2 robots!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=R589m0iaUpc
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
That video is mindblowing!
I removed this a while ago when i started playing GTA: San Andreas. Not sure I want to go back...
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 July 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
Been playing this for the first time. I touched GTA IV several years ago briefly, but came off unimpressed. I've got mixed feelings about it. I wonder what their intentions were in creating a mildly surreal facsimile of NYC - like the model town in Beetlejuice - that's really familiar, uncanny valley-like, but really off in many details. Like using a perfect replica of the NYC subway stop sound... for your car's GPS. The missions are kind of boring and grim, especially compared to San Andreas and Saints Row 2 and 3, the driving physics feel sluggish and heavy, the hand-to-hand combat system seems pointless after the first two hours.
Maybe because I'm not a huge fan of The Sopranos I don't love what they're doing with the tone of the story and taking it completely away from farce, but I suppose San Andreas was moving in that direction in its more sober moments. Niko Bellic is a strange cat. We're supposed to be sympathetic to him early on, I think, but as the game goes on its pretty clear he's a psychopath, there doesn't seem to be as much ambiguity as I'd heard. I guess you have the clowns like Brucie and Roman to lighten it up a little.
I can still admire a lot of what this game does right - that powerful, oddly familiar feeling of this made up alternate universe NYC is something unique. Do I want to fault the game for not being as straight-up fun as Saints Row? Yes... But at the same time, I love looking at the highways they created to get from borough to borough. I'll drive around and "recognize" bits of the Bronx or Queens or Brooklyn and feel something that's not deja vu, but something else. The outdoor lighting effects and visual presentation is pretty impressive, I have to admit - I'm amazed that they were able to get as close as they were to the actual feel of being there, in tiny pockets. I hope I have enough energy to slog my way through this story.
― Nhex, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
The DLC is better than the main game for IV.
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link
I've got the complete edition, I'll move on to the episodes some point after I beat the main game. Well, if.
― Nhex, Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link
ha nhex and i are doing the exact same thing at about the same time. i got so eh about the main story mission that i went out and bought a bunch of over the top cheapo fluff just to clear my palate in between dreary playing streaks.
― ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 October 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link
don't give up till you play Gay Tony!
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Friday, 18 October 2013 06:38 (ten years ago) link
omg the checkpointing in this is so terrible
― Nhex, Saturday, 26 October 2013 05:00 (ten years ago) link
just finished one dreadful mission where i had to follow a train by car. so stupid
― Nhex, Saturday, 26 October 2013 05:01 (ten years ago) link
haha you think that's stupid in a gta game? I don't think you should be playing this game.
― prop forward turned celebrity chef (Ste), Saturday, 26 October 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
Flashbacks to GTA: San Andreas. Don't lose the train, CJ!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 26 October 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
it's weird how little things make this game annoying, like having to stop for toll booths at each bridge lest the cops come down on you. but the cab system works pretty well, at least, which makes up for it... a little bit
that's just one small point but the driving feels much more of a slog than in other games. maybe it's the traffic patterns or something or some other adherent to "realism". i still enjoy the sightseeing as I'm driving, but now my patience is wearing thin and i'm just taking a cab everywhere
also what is up with the appointment system? it took me forever to figure out that you can't figure out where you're supposed to go (for dates/missions) unless you kill time until 1 "hour" before the the appointment and then they finally add the location to your map - don't see why they couldn't have just added a waypoint as soon as you get the time set up, or be able to access it from your phone
the checkpoint thing i was referring to was that one where you storm a hospital to get a bunch of coke from another gang, then you have to escape the cops as they surround you. that's actually one of the more fun missions, but if you die you have to go alllllllll the way back to the mission start and do it all over again. i guess i should be grateful there's a quick restart option at all
but whatever, you're a good man Niko Bellic, keep kicking that football
― Nhex, Saturday, 26 October 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link
having to stop for toll booths
Forgot all about that. what a shit game.
― pplains, Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
yeah checkpoint system is str8 garbage, toll booth thing is the opposite of fun. hoping that theres no real reason to complete that final brucie racing mission because well, its fucking stupid and a pain in the ass. im busy with other things, still keep feeling like playing this game to completion is more of an "well i suppose i ought to" thing than any actual fun a lot of the time.
― Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
I'm pretty sure I never ever stopped for checkpoints after like the first time I went through them. It's only one star.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link
At toll booths I mean.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
Were you able to save from wherever in this game or did that not come until Red Dead Redemption?
― pplains, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link
nope
― Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
either had to complete a mission or go to your safehouse
Yeah, I don't know if I'm going back to Liberty City any time soon then.
― pplains, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
The expansions have checkpoints
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link
Listen, we weren't talking about your mama here.
― pplains, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link
that's cold pp
i'm with jjj, still kinda slogging through it. at least i just unlocked the third island, so the end is coming closer in sight.
are there any notable rewards or side activities I should try while i'm barreling to the end? no way i'm gonna hunt down those pigeons though. i guess i'm trying to hook up with Kate for story reasons, but i have this feeling it'll be disappointing
got the achievement "impossible trinity" and it was kind of intriguing, seems to imply we'll see the same mission from the POV of the other protagonists in the DLC
― Nhex, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link
the third island is such a shit reward isn't it? great, I unlocked a wasteland.
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 10:44 (ten years ago) link
Nhex, no rewards for side missions (of which there are few, random strangers - about 7 I think). Vigilante missions come back, a bit differently, but again no reward for doing them
haha yeah third island was just a huge oil refinery and a prison.
Although don't want to come down too hard on this, I remember having a lot of fun just pissing about when it was first here. Seems dated compared to V now obv.
― Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 11:48 (ten years ago) link
ugh. i noticed that when i first stole a cop car that there was no reward for vigilante stuff, very strange considering the effort they put into that whole "police computer" jazz. but you could say that kind of thing about a lot of this game! thanks for letting me know, i'm kinda glad i won't have to do more bowling or darts or what-have-you. friendships, who needs 'em
i did run into a couple of the random strangers, though i got one of them killed and never saw another one again (the alkie Russian guy)
xp i know! you unlocked... New Jersey. Thanks, Rockstar.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link
oh man, "A Revenger's Tragedy" (final mission if you take the "deal" branch) is driving me CRAZY. stupid boat!
jjjusten you give up on this?
― Nhex, Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
christ, finally over. i'm gonna need a few cleansing games before I on to do the episodes, i need a good break from Liberty City
the bizarre checkpointing really almost completely ruined this game for me - why they hell doesn't it remember the ammo/armor you have when you restart a mission? am i really gonna have to call a cab, go to the weapon store and restock each time I fail a really tough mission? (yes)
i remember getting a car for a reward for completing the Bernie missions, but have no idea how I was ever going to get it back again after it got destroyed/lost. little things like that kept annoying me throughout the game.
that said, i really felt for Roman throughout the game. nobody else but Roman. that poor idiot degenerate.
― Nhex, Sunday, 24 November 2013 23:58 (ten years ago) link
another thing i hated (as I sit back tonight and ponder the herculean effort it took me to get through this game) is the amount of forced sequences, for lack of a better term. like you know people hate in RPGs when you're forced to fail a battle for storyline purposes, but of course you don't know it ahead of time so you waste limited potions trying to beat it in vain?
GTA IV has a lot of these chase sequences where ostensibly you're supposed to chase somebody down and kill them. however, invisibly, the game decides that you cannot and you HAVE to trail them to the endpoint of a predetermined route, no matter how many bullets you plug their vehicle with, it'll never blow up. then on other missions, you ARE supposed to kill them during the chase, and you'll fail the mission and have to restart if you let them get to their destination, so, UGH
out of curiosity, was there any kind of reaction to the Bernie character, because wow, really ugly stereotype, even for GTA standards
― Nhex, Monday, 25 November 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link
After playing GTA 5 this game sucks so bad
Sucks so bad
― 龜, Thursday, 4 September 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link
After playing GTA San Andreas, GTA 5 sucked so much.
― smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Friday, 5 September 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link
Has it been a year?Been going through The Lost and Damned. Generally more fun that GTA IV, though the plot feels quite predictable, even for GTA, feels ilke a retread of the GTA IV and San Andreas stories. The fact that Sons of Anarchy exists probably ruined the novelty of the biker club world - too bad for Rockstar, they were probably already developing this when SoA came out.I'll say it has a few things over the main game - driving bikes, even slower, is a LOT more fun than the terrible car physics.Second, they're way more reasonable about the check-pointing, so it's not nearly as frustrating to get through the more violent missions. Less obnoxious driving the same routes over and over again.Third, I do love the way they've woven the timeline of the original into this game, so you see some of the same events from another side, as they clearly planned it out ahead of time. I appreciate that, and look forward to it in the Ballad of Gay Tony as well. When I eventually get around to GTA V, I hope Rockstar refines the multiple character POV use with the three leads in that one.
― Nhex, Sunday, 23 November 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link
Like a dummy I read the GTA wiki to fill in some story holes and found out the Lost have a story arc in GTA V and some spoilers. Dang. L&D had a fun final mission storming the Alderney prison, narratively it was a bit anticlimactic since Ray Boccino's fate was decided by Niko in the main game, and so much time is spent in the second half on the Diamond epic.
― Nhex, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 06:38 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8duNSbt6VHs
― internet explorer (am0n), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
finished Ballad of Gay Tony, which was really good; the best GTA game outside of San Andreas, just barelyi feel like the GTA IV trilogy was some crazy b-movie John Dos Passos American epic shit. i'm kind of in awe of the whole thing, even if they made a lot of mistakes, and a lot of it was very tasteless, i admire the ambitions and what they did accomplish in gameplay, world, character, and so on. waaaay waaay deep under the surface there's some deep expression of Modern Times America in there. it's unexpected.any good thinkpieces about this? i'd be surprised if there weren't some interesting write-ups out there
― Nhex, Sunday, 30 November 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
Gay Tony was great, just so much fun...
― you fuck one chud... (stevie), Monday, 1 December 2014 11:30 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oP2M1Pnx7I
POONIKINS WILL F YOUR SH1T UP
― calstars, Thursday, 15 January 2015 01:49 (nine years ago) link
an internet classic
― polyphonic, Thursday, 15 January 2015 02:01 (nine years ago) link
ok...so i finally got around to playing this game and finishing it. btw it's 2015, do i need to still need to state spoilers? here they come.
i didn't understand the friendship part of the game and i put it off for the most part only hanging out with roman a few times. i didn't mind it but for some reason i was just so focused on the $$$ and wanted to get my revenge on dimitri. i figured i'd just hang out with roman after my task was complete and we could all ride off in the sunset enjoying our life in america. eventually i took the 'deal' route (choosing roman's advice over kate's) and goddamn roman was shot to death at his wedding. now after exacting my revenge and finishing the game i have no cousin to hang out with, he doesn't call, and my calls go straight to voicemail. he was the guy that got me on my feet when i first got to liberty city and put up with all this bs, including his business and apartment being burned down, and now he's gone. i just found this to be incredibly sad. so now i'm just not going to play this game any more and i'm going to call my brother up and see how he's doing and hang out with him.
― sweaty palms, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 17:24 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I got that grim ending too.
Fortunately I'd befriended Jacob for most of the game so he became my most used friend who I'd spend hours playing pool with. Good times.
― Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link
What are the part of this that are better than what's found in GTA V?
― obstacle illusion (calstars), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 00:23 (eight years ago) link
I had the same idea two years after goole did.
I still have this idea of combining the different Vice Cities and Liberty Cities into a time-travel game -- where you're walking through a Disney Times Square, enter the subway, and come out in Taxi Driver 70s. And in BTTF style, you could have the mayor in the 70s look like the homeless pedestrian in 2010, etc.― pplains, Wednesday, November 2, 2011 2:15 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― pplains, Wednesday, November 2, 2011 2:15 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
my fave wish for GTAV: chicago, but taking place in -- get this -- two different times!! the old godfather trick. two difft versions of the same city, one in the 20s, one today, and you flip back and forth at difft times, one as your own grandfather, and decisions you make in the past can affect things in the present. fuckin awesome, huh.xp yeah, no sense at all.― goole, Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:03 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― goole, Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:03 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fuckin' awesome, huh.
― pplains, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:19 (five years ago) link
Been playing BoGT on PS3. Better than Niko, but I still miss San Andreas.
― pplains, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link
damn plains, you inspired me to install Tony on my PC
― calstars, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link
Tony's been an ok game. Cut scenes even show some heart every once in awhile. Still can't get past the first Yuri attack-the-yacht mission though.
Tried out the the Lost & Damned, and nah. "Bring that bitch to the clubhouse because I want some hole! – We want some hole!" If I'm going to have to listen to that and ride a motorcycle that's not a Bati the entire time, I can skip it.
Been on a seagull kill list. Cheating with a map and realized after I shot No. 35 that the caption said "There are 16 more seagulls in Liberty City!" Fuuuck, this happened to me in GTA:LS with the spray paint. Retraced my steps and there was the missing bird at No. 24. I've never enjoyed a headshot better.
So, haven't played all the missions yet. Ignoring the other game on the disc. All that to say that I did play on that swing set glitch until 1 am last night. How can that be so fun.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link
haha yeah i remember having a lot of fun with that swing glitch
― In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link
Hey, it's 2019 and I finished The Ballad of Gay Tony tonight.
― pplains, Monday, 2 September 2019 05:14 (four years ago) link
ahah well done !Actually I have only discovered (and finished) GTAV a few months ago...I don't remember much about Gay Tony. Except that it was fun (much more than Lost&Damned and even the original GTAIV).
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 2 September 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link
The image I created that eventually spawned #GTAI drew this to create an isometric rendering engine, it then evolved that into a rotating isometric engine, then I built the "Top Down Perspective Engine" that went on to become GTA1#DMADesign #retro #grandtheftauto #retrogaming pic.twitter.com/Cxr5K8GB75— Mike Dailly™ 🏴 (@mdf200) September 1, 2019
― JimD, Monday, 2 September 2019 10:26 (four years ago) link
Playing GT has been a little weird since I had only played maybe 10% of IV and just the first mission of L&D. All these clues on the map left over from the original game. Like, I learned where Playboy X's penthouse was and tried to figure out how to get inside since the lobby elevator wasn't working. I found the building next door with the really steep staircases and got to the roof, but couldn't pitch myself across the alley.
Finally shimmied up the fire escape and got a look around. When I left, I realized the penthouse was slightly higher than the roof next door, so I jumped down and went down the steep staircases instead. I suppose there must have been some mission where Niko did this (and not try jumping back the other way) and around all the corners of these staircases there may have been goons lurking to kill. For me, just a couple of dudes standing around.
Also weird parking cars all over the place even though Luis Lopez only had one stupid safehouse. All of Niko's old parking places still worked. Some apartment in the projects on the north side of the map was open, with a filthy mattress and bottles everywhere, making me wonder what kind of hell mission must've taken place there. Ghosts everywhere, but all I really wanted to do was dance.
― pplains, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link
I hate Johnny. I don't even mind when he dies during a mission because at least I'm watching him die. I hate his voice, I hate his little catchphrases, I hate his clothes, I hate his hate for Hondas and I'm glad that Trevor stomped his head in. My only regret is that I didn't know who Johnny was when I originally saw that scene years ago.
I'm trying to finish the mission where he grabs the diamonds from Luis and Tony. Seeing those two again reminds me of what a better game that was. And I can't catch a break with Johnny trying to chase after Evan.
And that sucks because you know what? I might even hate Evan even more.
― pplains, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 01:43 (four years ago) link
They're terrible characters. Also driving those hogs is shitty
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 04:09 (four years ago) link
Srsly.
Only reason I'm trying to beat this game is because (1.) I've only got four or five missions left. (2.) I'm looking forward to blowing up that depressing clubhouse and (3.) I get to kill this guy:
https://i.imgur.com/a9J3TDt.jpg
― pplains, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link
Kind of weird how this game can’t be played on current consoles but gta 3 can. Tempted to buy a ps3 and fire it up
― calstars, Sunday, 11 December 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link
Pc is also a (great) option, finances allowing
― hrep (H.P), Monday, 12 December 2022 12:34 (one year ago) link