MUSIC CRITCS ARE THE ART OF PRETEND FORGETFULLNESS

I think I sometimes write like that, but then again I own about 10,000 records. I forget stuff all the time. Maybe it looks like some kind of pose but trust me it's not. that's what happens when you have a ton of records. I forget names/details all the time these days. the fact taht I'm old and drink like a fish doesn't help either.

and some people remember all too well!

though complaining about this kind of loudmouthed ignorance on the noise board seems ironic

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jesus scott! how old are you? I need to stop assuming most of us are 18-25.

HAVE AN ABBOTT'S CUSTARD FOR ME JON

BONG HITS, A (HUGE) BLUNT, FIVE OR SIX BOWLS,k MORE BONG HITS.

OMGWTFLOL HOLALA!

I LOVE GEORGE

A, b, c, d
Can I bring my friend to tea?
E, f, g h I j I love you.

Sail the ship, jump the tree
Skip the rope, look at me

All together now....

Black, white, green, red
Can I take my friend to bed?
Pink, brown, yellow orange blue I love you

All together now....

Sail the ship, jump the tree
Skip the rope, look at me

All together now....

but you are still a cool guy

-- chuck (cedd...), September 7th, 2004. (later)
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-- gaz (mullygrubbe...), September 3rd, 2004. (gaz) (later)

-- jess (wt...), September 18th, 2004 8:37 AM. (dubplatestyle) (later)

i've been looking for a french-language freakbeat version of hey, bulldog forever. i know it exists, bcz i saw/heard it once. anyone have any ideas?

(is it really hard to type amateurist or is it just me?)

http://completewasteoftime.blogs.com/weblog/jazz_savant.jpg

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-- jess (wt...), September 29th, 2004 3:26 PM. (dubplatestyle) (later)

was that your "leak"?

-- gygax! (gygax0...), September 29th, 2004 3:39 PM. (gygax!) (later)

and let's just pretend you never heard earth.

-- gygax! (gygax0...), September 29th, 2004 3:39 PM. (gygax!) (later)

noize dude in disdaining fat joke shocker!!

-- jess (wt...), September 29th, 2004 3:40 PM. (dubplatestyle) (later)

next thing you know i'll say "fag" and get chided

-- jess (wt...), September 29th, 2004 3:41 PM. (dubplatestyle) (later)

the screaming trees put an ep out on sub pop during the Tad era and they outweight the Tad band by a good quarter ton.

ps: jess, you might want to make your "jokes" funny in the future.

-- gygax! (gygax0...), September 29th, 2004 6:18 PM. (gygax!) (later)

three hours and that's the comeback? for shame.

-- jess (wt...), September 29th, 2004 6:20 PM. (dubplatestyle) (later)

keep reaching for the stars tho, gyg.

-- jess (wt...), September 29th, 2004 6:21 PM. (dubplatestyle) (later)

it's all right, you and i both know that "leak" comment smarted.

;-D

-- gygax! (gygax0...), September 29th, 2004 6:21 PM. (gygax!) (later)

Unread Messages

actually i didn't know what that meant.

-- jess (wt...), September 29th, 2004 6:22 PM. (dubplatestyle) (later)

oh wait, i think i remember now.

-- jess (wt...), September 29th, 2004 6:22 PM. (dubplatestyle) (later)

-- Yanc3y (ystrickle...), October 21st, 2004.

ELLIOTT SMITH IS NOT DEAD.

LUV
JEFF TWEEDY

-- chuck (cedd...), October 21st, 2004 11:07 AM.

(and yeah, i meant *cracked rearview.* i suppose they might have some earlier indie albums maybe, right? i never heard those. *cracked reareview* has a pretty funny title, too, come to think of it.)

-- chuck (cedd...), October 21st, 2004 10:34 AM.

ouch.

-- chuck (cedd...), November 11th, 2004. (later)

http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/byzantum

-- chuck (cedd...), November 12th, 2004 3:08 PM.

-- scott seward (skotro...), January 15th, 2005.

-- miccio (anthonyisrigh...) (webmail), February 1st, 2005 8:22 PM. (miccio) (link)

LOL OTM

-- Spencer Chow (spencercho...) (webmail), February 8th, 2005 12:50 PM. (spencermfi) (link)

i think there's even a peter cetera solo single i like, but i can't remember the name.

-- Amateur(ist) (amateurist@gmail.com) (webmail), February 14th, 2005 7:13 PM. (Amateur(ist)) (link)

d'oh!

-- scott seward (skotro...) (webmail), March 3rd, 2005 1:12 PM. (scott seward) (link)

(th-th-th-that's all folks!)

-- scott seward (skotro...) (webmail), March 8th, 2005 2:41 PM. (scott seward) (link)

-- roger adultery (vlad62...) (webmail), May 9th, 2004 11:33 PM. (roger adultery) (link)

not necessarily, dude

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), March 10th, 2005 11:35 AM.

we should go to that thing in stoke newington

i might go to rusholme again soon, not to eat curry though

i still cant think what this track actually is

-- charltonlido (...) (webmail), March 11th, 2005 1:42 AM. (gareth) (link) (admin) (83.67.46.59)

-- Tim Ellison (timelliso...) (webmail), March 13th, 2005 1:00 AM. (Tim Ellison) (link)

-- Al (hoteloper...), May 19th, 2005 9:31 PM. (sitcom) (later)

Oh well, I guess I never noticed (like I said!) Who has time to search all this stuff?? But who cares, I want to know what people think of them anyway!

-- xhuxk (xedd...), May 19th, 2005 9:40 PM. (later)

last killing joke i ever liked much was i think *revelations* (or that *ha!* live 10-inch thing, if that counts - i forget which came first). but i know some people have other opinions about the matter!

-- xhuxk (xedd...), June 5th, 2005 10:36 AM.

and they are all shit

-- fact checking cuz (factcheckingcu...), June 6th, 2005 10:13 PM.

itz not weird too me. yoo hate chuck for some reason.

http://w1.1361.telia.com/~u136100018/mr.cool.jpg

but i was surprised at how definitive was my reaction.

"psuedo-respected" is a cryptic way of saying that a few people on ilm come rattling to his defense when he's in an argument, in a vitriolic way that strikes me as strange... but i don't get the sense that he's known or respected very far outside of rock-crit circles. i guess that means "somewhat respected" rather than the vague and condescending "psuedo-respected."

whatever.

sorry for the flurry of posts. i feel bad about the obnoxiousness of my first two posts so i guess i felt i owed some explanation, even if i just dig a deeper hole for myself in some eyes.

ask him sometime what he thinks of his "stature". i swear to god you think about it more then he does. and you bring that attitude into arguments with him instead of just arguing.

i'm not saying chuck goes on about his stature, indeed he seems deliberately to seek to deflate that sort of thing. it's just that i think there a lot of people (a LOT of critics, including some i don't even like much as writers) who could do a lot more with the village voice music pages.... it seems like a missed opportunity to me.

i probably should exit this argument now because i'm feeling sort of bad about it.

He did it all for the nookie.

http://sandbox.pair.com/images/ohsnap.gif

http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stephenbalchin/dastpic.gif

i really really enjoyed this one. turns out this chuck is a novelist. who knew?

-- fact checking cuz (factcheckingcu...) (webmail), June 7th, 2005 3:01 PM. (fcc) (link)

it's not a novel, though. more like an extended remix of the SPIN piece on rock death sites.
-- Matos-Webster Dictionary (michaelangelomato...) (webmail), June 8th, 2005 5:08 PM. (M Matos) (link)

IF YOOOOOOOOOOU DON'T LIKE IT
HIT THA' ROAD 'CUZ I JUS-JUS-JUS DON'T CAAAAAAAAARE!
-- donut debonair (do...) (webmail), June 8th, 2005 5:16 PM. (donut) (link)

(x-post)
it's totally a novel. it's a fictionalized memoir of the road trip he undertook for that spin piece, and if it's "about" anything, it's about himself and a trio of girlfriends. it's not, and it's not trying to be, a piece of journalism. it's not, and it's not trying to be, a work of non-fiction. it's a novel starring a guy named chuck who has shared a lot of experiences with the guy who wrote the book.
-- fact checking cuz (factcheckingcu...) (webmail), June 8th, 2005 5:32 PM. (fcc) (link)

OK, I'd been told otherwise.
-- Matos-Webster Dictionary (michaelangelomato...) (webmail), June 8th, 2005 6:06 PM. (M Matos) (link)

or at least remember being told otherwise, so it's down to faulty memory
-- Matos-Webster Dictionary (michaelangelomato...) (webmail), June 8th, 2005 6:07 PM. (M Matos) (link)

I'M JUST SAYING, MICCIO AND CHUCK = DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

yeah, yeah, you're not a music critic, blah blah

-- chuck (cedd...), October 20th, 2003 4:54 PM.

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Chuck, you don't remember Zingalamaduni?
-- Anthony Miccio (anthonymicci...), October 20th, 2003 4:59 PM.

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Wait, did that Z album have Mr. Wendall on it?
-- chuck (cedd...), October 20th, 2003 5:02 PM.

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he did, he did. i believe he was the first.
-- dean!

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), August 27th, 2006 10:49 AM. (xheddy)

-- Jacob (jacob.wrigh...), November 9th, 2006 12:29 AM. (Jacob) (later)

TM: Butch, I think. Was it Butch?

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), November 19th, 2006 12:38 AM. (xheddy) (later)

-- scott seward (skotro...), November 19th, 2006. (scott seward)

Well, it's on the first Disco Not Disco compilation, which is great. I used to always play it when I DJ'd circa 2000/2001, so it was kinda thrown in for old time's sake. Ditto "You Can't Hurry Love."
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-- Tuomas (tuomas.alh...), January 30th, 2004

and your personality is about 8 i think.

-- ken c (kenneth.ch...), January 30th, 2004

-- Orbit January 30th, 2004

I don't really know x-chuck but the vast majority of post-Bangs rock critics I have met are straightedge, maybe social drinkers at best.

go figure

This discography is wrong, WOW2 is an album, I've put this comment in here before but someone has removed it, didn't they take any notice. This is mis-information, try one of the external links for a discography they are more acurate, especially on the release dates.

LATER:

+ This discography is wrong, WOW2 is an album, Seadrum isn't and album, I've put this comment in here before but someone has removed it, didn't they take any notice. This is mis-information, try one of the external links for a discography they are more acurate, especially on the release dates. Someone is already trying to remove this, have you not read what I put, do you actually own these releases, have you heard them?

i had forgotten until the other day that i saw shelter on their first tour, whenever the hell that was.

-- hstencil, Monday, June 25, 2007 5:17 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

JOR-EL SUCCUMBS TO SYNDROME

!!!: "Me and Giuliani Down by the Schoolyard (A True Story)," ... The 4:19 - 4:49 chunk

Yeah, I vaguely remember a few seconds in the middle that wasn't as much a chore to get through as the rest of it. Haven't heard this in a while, though -- I remember it totally pissing me off at the time for not having anything to do with the Paul Simon classic (my favorite song ever by him) that it takes its name from. Did it sound as much like bad Big Audio Dynamite as !!!'s other stuff (or their other early stuff, anyway, before I gave up on trying to like to like them)? Please refresh my memory.

-- xhuxk, Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:58 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

lol i was going to revive this for that

That part of that song sounds like Mr Brightside

hahaha oh god I was really stoned when I started this, so of course I forgot that TVOTR won, duh.

-- Matos W.K., Friday, December 14, 2007 4:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

lol

i never understood the appeal of pinback, talk about the whole being less than the sum of its parts.
i saw three mile pilot's last tour in a small club, half attended. seriously, one of the most overlooked bands ever. saw thingy's last show in SF in cory brown's living room in cole valley (with the extra glenns and jim yoshi pileup). they did a medley of misfits covers.

so pinback comes to town for their first show and i notice that they're playing the bottom of the hill, so i say "okay, let's head down early around 8:30, grab tickets and check out the openers else we can head to the parkside." so we show up at 8:30, there's a line around the block (which i've never seen at the BOTH) and that's just for willcall. the show had been sold out for weeks.

noone has ever explained this to me.

i heard the first ep, it was okay. i think i remember it, well it was either that or the new zz top, or the jets' "make it real". buy my book!

-- gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:13 AM (4 years ago)

But (and I hate to admit this...) whatever that CD that came out just after he died...I didn't like that one nearly as much. It was a whole different thing. "Another Thought" wasn't it? Early 90's.

But I was completely amazed to learn later that he'd actually taken a couple stabs at dance music earlier on. That was just weird. Certainly he was a gifted individual in the creative sense. Also I could have sworn I bought some EP of his of earlier on that was very ambient. Holy hell, I just remembered this. Black sleeve. Red letters. Am I wrong? Wow, I had totally forgotten that.

-- Bimble, Friday, March 21, 2008 3:05 AM (8 minutes ago)

i think bimble is in a category of his own.

Bad form, SS.

what are these good moody blues songs?

I like:

"Go Now!"
"Tuesday Afternoon"
"Ride My See-Saw"
"Question"
"Nights on White Saddles" (or whatever it's called)
"Your Wildest Dreams"

That's more than a handful! (Might like "The Voice," too; need to relisten to that one someday.)

-- xhuxk, Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:24 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

chuck married the art of pretend forgetfulness
y'all niggas still engaged

Today, I like the entire first half of Debbie Gibson's second album a truckload of pistachios better than "One More Cockfarming Motherfucking Ratbastard Son of a Whoring Time". Tomorrow I'll be driving to NYC with a disco-loving Israeli-Russian nihilist and I wouldn't be surprised if the new Daft Punk sounded great to me then. Well, I would be surprised, because the record's fucking gay, but fuck, "Aerodynamic" sounded pretty good last time I listened. Point's that about-faces in taste are fun, the astonishment at liking something you hated just ups the like. Point's also that a bevy of peeps buy Mariah albums and presumably some of them like them and presumably 6 or 8 or at least 2 have gotta have their heads on shoulders not thoroughly implanted up their assholes, so why not try and be one of those 2? She did have that one good song a few years ago with video with the swinging out over water on a happy tire, which I'd really like to know the name of if anyone's up for recollecting. Thanks.
-- Otis Wheeler, Thursday, March 22, 2001 1:00 AM

Listening to Linsay Lohan now. Kinda thinking that way too much of it sounds like the single! The Cheap Trick cover is okay. I like the new wave synthesizers in "A Little More Personal." Beyond that, I dunno. I
definitely I think I prefer Linsay more when she's LESS personal. (Oh wait, "If You Were Me" is on now. What a bouncy little bassline:) But she may have no more business doing ballads than Gretchen Wilson.
-- xhuxk, Monday, December 19, 2005 2:46 PM (2 years ago)

but which teenager doesnt over share, the adults around her should say something about it no?

we keep forgetting with the tits, and the voice, that lohan is still basically a child.
-- anthony easton (anthony), Monday, December 19, 2005 2:51 PM (2 years ago)

CHUCK.

ugh

I think the idea is that, unlike snakes and lizards etc., tuataras (a/k/a rhynocephalians) actually co-existed (or even maybe pre-dated) dinosaurs (though the Wiki entry sez "recent taxonomic and molecular work has shown that they have changed significantly since the Mesozoic era," so maybe not.)

-- xhuxk, Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

i recognize that as an editor chuck had approved some interesting stuff, but as a writer he comes across as falling back on a species of anti-intellectualism way too often, and this "i don't really remember, whatever" schtick is just one manifestation of that.

the other, worse manifestation is the whole "it just ROCKS, and if I have to explain it to you dude..." stuff he pulled on nearly every thread in which we spent any time locking heads.

(an unrelated, even more annoying trait is the infantile contrarianism which i always found it difficult to prove. i mean, it seemed to suffuse his whole taste, at least as he elaborated it in print. but he could always just say "but i really do like this stuff" and there wasn't much i could say.)

i also get the feeling that his rhetoric is 80% cultivating and sustaining a persona and maybe 20% actual argumentation.

I never had much use for chuck as a critic but I really like him as an ilm poster. when he cares enough to bother he gets people to question their assumptions about music and defend their positions in an engaging way. which is probably why he was such a good editor at the voice.

I disagree with him at almost every step of the way on the swings w/ a vengeance thread but the discussion was interesting (or maybe it should just get filed under "two a-holes arguing over xgau and who cares what he sez anyways"):

Not swinging with a vengeance: Robert Christgau on new wave disco and hard bop, 1978

JIMINY CRIKITZ OVA HEAH:

I forget who Drive Like Jehu are. I think I heard them once, and they left no impression at all. Ditto the Hot Snakes, but maybe not. (The New Jersey Mass Choir, on the other hand, were almost as excellent in re: Foreginer cameos as Junior Walker.) (And I AM high maintenance!! In my life there's been heartache and pain! I don't know if I can face it again! Can't stop now. I've traveled too far.) And my favorite recent album of cynical adult-alt world class sex rhymes is by the Notwist. But maybe I just misunderstood their German accents.
-- chuck, Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:00 PM (5 years ago)

LOL at this impersonator:

As far as IDM goes, I'm really into the new Books CD and definitely Four Tet still, and I'm going to mention Brooks and Dunn (as well) who maybe don't count (though they probably should (am I (of course) right?) since they erase all genre boundaries). I played them at this IDM party I DJed. I DJ, you know, don't know if I mentioned that before, I'm still hep w/ the kids, new Dirtbombs is boring, etc.
― charley, Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:19 PM (5 years ago)

probably a gareth sock

(though they probably should (am I (of course) right?) since they erase all genre boundaries)

"Nights on White Saddles" still makes me lol

Wait, so were Front 242 actually considered fascist once? And if so, by who? (Laibach I was aware of, but not them.) Anyway, these Christgau reviews (which I admittedly don't completely understand, even though I used to edit him) suggest they were:

http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=front+242

― xhuxk, Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:14 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think i wrote a review or maybe two for that paper once? but i can't remember who asked me to. it wasn't matos.

― scott seward, Monday, November 9, 2009 4:33 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

melissa maerz?

― goole, Monday, November 9, 2009 4:36 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dylan hicks? i think that's who it was.

i wrote something for someone named melissa in seattle once.

― scott seward, Monday, November 9, 2009 4:39 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

haha i don't think forgetting the ppl u traded pitch emails with fits the thread

MAAAAAAAAA!!!! THEY IS PICKIN' ON ME AGIN!!!!!!

http://www.consumerist.com/images/2006/04/MulliWalmartGreeter.jpg

chuck married the art of pretend forgetfulness
y'all niggas still engaged

― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:34 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^______________^

omg scott that pic

I'm assuming that is either
1) Halloween costume
2) Budget-cut biohazardous waste removal suit

roll 'em back, move 'em out

chromeo comparison seems on-point but I'm surprised this bothers anybody that was into herculues & love machine or whatever they were called

― moonship journey to baja, Friday, August 12, 2011 4:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

are you under 30?

are you under 30?

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:53 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://wilsonknut.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/rock-and-roll-always-forgets.jpg

Ha. Saw that but didn't think about this thread. Where did the spacesuit picture from Nov 2009 go, Scott?

Also never noticed the misspellings in thread title before

i don't remember the spacesuit thing.

chuck's book is so great.

someone mentioned 'Josie Packard' to me recently and I couldn't even guess who she was

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, March 16, 2012 1:19 PM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also, wasn't the AC guy off the map for a while? He had nothing to do with "Dingleberry Jam" or whatever and "MPP," didn't tour behind them, didn't really do interviews, and the other AC guys iirc weren't terribly forthcoming about his activities or whereabouts.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, September 14, 2012 10:56 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://www.stereogum.com/1689158/vic-mensa-major-payne/mp3s/

sum total of time I've spent on computer games in my life = 5 mins of mario the hedgehog when i was 7, 5 mins spent repeatedly running it into a ravine

― lex pretend, Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:33 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lindsay Logan – Speak (Casablanca 2004 CD) $1

― xhuxk, Saturday, May 23, 2015 9:40 PM (1 month ago)

What's "RIO"? You mean like Duran Duran??
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember the pcikles