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I'm already kinda excited.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/wbc/index.jsp

March 3-20, 2006: looks like logistics (specifically concerning Cuba) are being worked out, but pool play should be as follows:

Pool A (Tokyo Dome, Tokyo):
Japan
Korea
China
Chinese Taipei

Pool B (Bank One Ballpark, Phoenix):
USA
Canada
Mexico
South Africa

Pool C (Hiram Bithorn Stadium, San Juan):
Puerto Rico
Panama
Cuba
Netherlands

Pool D ("Florida"):
Dominican Republic
Venezuela
Italy
Australia

Second round games will be played in San Juan and either Phoenix or Anaheim; semifinals and finals are going to be held March 18-20 in San Diego.

Thoughts? The most intriguing issue for me right away concerns the parks themselves; assuming Florida means Miami, you've got strong pitcher's parks in Arizona, San Diego, Anaheim, and Miami, and two totally batshit hitter's parks in the Tokyo Dome and Bithorn (which approximated Arena Football-like run totals during some Expos games in 2004). It may be a moot point until rosters are announced, but will this potentially put teams from those pools at an automatic disadvantage in later rounds?

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link

When will they start announcing the rosters?

I'm optimistic about Canada's team. The pitching will solid, that's for sure (will Gagne be ready in time?).

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh wow DR and Venezuela in the same bracket. That should be fun.

I am really excited about this.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Rosters are due to be announced no later than January 17. Baseball America ran a series of articles projecting the rosters and previewing pool play a few months ago:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/news/050511worldcuprosters1.html
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/news/050511worldcuprosters2.html
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/news/050511worldcuprosters3.html
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/news/050511worldcuprosters4.html

The Dominican team looks terrifyingly good.

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Venezuela
1B—Edgardo Alfonzo (Giants)

BWAH HAH HAH

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link

C—Miguel Olivo (Mariners)
1B—Albert Pujols (Cardinals)
2B—Alfonso Soriano (Rangers)
3B—Aramis Ramirez (Cubs)
SS— Miguel Tejada (Orioles)
LF—Manny Ramirez (Red Sox)
CF—Jose Guillen (Nationals)
RF—Vladimir Guerrero (Angels)
DH—David Ortiz (Red Sox)
SP—Pedro Martinez (Mets)
SP—Bartolo Colon (Angels)
SP—Odalis Perez (Dodgers)
SP—Daniel Cabrera (Orioles)
RP—Francisco Cordero (Rangers)
Manager: Felipe Alou (Giants)

CRIMINY WHAT A BATTING LINEUP!!!

Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Ooooh these lineups look great. I like the fact that Magglio Ordonez and Ozzie Guillen will be reunited.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Laugh at Venezuela's 1B choice all you want but seriously:

SP—Johan Santana (Twins)
SP—Carlos Zambrano (Cubs)
SP—Freddy Garcia (White Sox)
SP—Kelvim Escobar (Angels)
RP—Francisco Rodriguez (Angels)

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

!!!!!!!!!

Translation: Yeah, that's OK.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Venezuela's outfield is scary, but otherwise their lineup is no great shakes. That staff though. Scary. The only thing though is that I'll bet middle relievers are going to be a lot more important in this game than closers and almost as important as starters, esp. since the managers won't want to push the pitch counts of guys.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Rosters are due to be announced no later than January 17. Baseball America ran a series of articles projecting the rosters and previewing pool play a few months ago:

Don't forget that ARod said he wants to play for the Dominican, which would push ARam to the bench!

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't get over how terrifying that DR lineup looks. Pujols, Ortiz, Ramirez, Guerrero, Rodriguez. . . Jesus I wouldn't want to have to pitch to that.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/wbc/faq.jsp

Interesting note: after the first pool round, the remaining eight teams will be split into two pools for another round, rather than play single-elimination quarterfinals. Therefore:

Teams eliminated in Round 1 will have played: 3 Games
Teams eliminated in Round 2 will have played: 6 Games
Teams eliminated in the Semi-Finals will have played: 7 Games
Teams in the Final will have played: 8 Games

"Each team will comprise a roster of up to 30 players (with a minimum of 13 pitchers)." I'm interested in seeing how managers will handle pitching staffs, since at most they're looking at eight games over two and a half weeks. Pitch count limitations may be part of tournament rules, according to the FAQ (and to the great relief of MLB managers, I'm sure).

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

The US lineup seems really old and weak by comparison to that.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Part of the fun of this is speculating, but there are a ton of American players absent from that BA list who can compete with the DR team.

Mike Young? Adam Dunn? Travis Hafner? Mark Teixeira? You could put a pretty good pitching staff together out of Halladay, Peavy, Willis, Hudson, Carpenter, Oswalt, Lidge, Cordero, Ryan...

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

(or just take Oakland's starters?)

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha well without Harden they're aren't quite as attractive.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

(haha: Harden will get hurt, no worries!)

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Mindinrewind-

I read an article about Gagne gearing up to reutrn to play for Team Canada, much to the chagrin of the Dodgers.

Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I wouldn't want to have to pitch to that.

Assuming that you're not a MLB pitcher, that's smart thinking.

Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
From Kit Krieger (who runs the Cuban baseball tour I took) on the SABR list:

Less than 12 hours after getting a message from Cuba that the Cubans would decline the invitation to play in the World Cup, the Cubans announced that they would participate. The announcement was accompanied by Fidel Castro launching a stinging criticism of Cuban players who have defected in pursuit of money. Fidel added that the defections had not diminished the quality of baseball on the island and asserted that for every player who left, ten more take their places.

We will await word on who the Cubans send to the World Cup. It is not
certain that he will send the best players in the 16-team Cuban league. According to my Cuban friends, the National Series will not be interrupted by the World Cup. In fact, the tournament takes place over the final days of the regular season in Cuba, which is slated to end on March 12th.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Team USA will be playing the Giants during spring training. WHAT WILL BARRY DO??

Obsessing over the unobtainable and nonexistent. (Leee), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 00:32 (eighteen years ago) link

DH on both teams.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 00:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Would he wear a half Giants/half USA cap, like those awesome Bay Bridge series caps?

Obsessing over the unobtainable and nonexistent. (Leee), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I bought tickets for the Semifinals at Petco. Can't wait.

tylero (tylero), Thursday, 15 December 2005 03:50 (eighteen years ago) link

THEY BANNED CUBA WTF

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 03:59 (eighteen years ago) link

total lamesville, dude.

it's not really a true competition w/o cuba. btw...the netherlands? is it safe to presume that there are pretty much no dudes from the continent on the team and it's all guys from the antilles and surinam?

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

not so fast, Sir Ponson (pending any hard time) will be representing the Dutch contigent via Aruba.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

When I read this the first thing I thought was that maybe Bush fears the Cuban team will feature some Iraqi/Afghan POWs from Guatanamo Bay who naturalized into Cuba... how long have some of those folks been held there?

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Stupid bullshit, but I'm guessing that something is worked out and Cuba plays.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

is it safe to presume that there are pretty much no dudes from the continent on the team and it's all guys from the antilles and surinam?

i can only hope that win remmerswaal re-surfaces. he was a reliever with the bosox in the early 80's who had a lot of success at pawtucket then one year he never showed up for spring training. sox couldn't find him, his agent couldn't find him, everyone assumed he just went back to the netherlands. he had this scrunched up face with a fruity little mustache that made him look like clayton from the robert guillome vehicle Benson.

kt... (kt...), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

clayton endicott?

i thought aruba WAS part of the netherlands antilles? if not, i meant dutch holdings in the carribean.

oh, well. all bet that italian team is SWEET! can i get a lou merloni, please?

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

And South Bay product Jason Simontacchi!

As for the Nederlanders: don't forget Rikkert Faneyte!

Obsessing over the unobtainable and nonexistent. (Leee), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm hoping that Alex is right. Fuck a baseball tournament that can't find a way to include Cuba.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean what happened in '96 when the Olympics wuz here? Cuba showed up then, right?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

more nederlanders:

hensley "bam bam" meulens!

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Bert Blijleven could come out of retirement!

ojitarian (ojitarian), Friday, 16 December 2005 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

"I think our policy regarding Cuba is pretty well known," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. "We want people in Cuba to participate in freedom."

COCKPUNCH

maura (maura), Friday, 16 December 2005 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Can anyone in this fucking administration open their mouth and not sound like a fucking dong?

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 16 December 2005 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link

dave, don't you want to PARTICPATE IN THE FREEDOM of sounding like an mba dropout who had one too many 'late night strategy sessions'

maura (maura), Friday, 16 December 2005 02:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex Rodriguez told The Post yesterday he has decided not to participate in the inaugural WBC this March because he didn't want to dishonor his native America or the Dominican Republic, where his parents are from.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees/58869.htm

maura (maura), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Why doesn't he play for both teams?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Cuba banned by Bush

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Have you guys seen the unis yet?

gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 7 January 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Whoops:

http://shop.mlb.com/category/index.jsp?categoryId=2164444

gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 7 January 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

A lot of these designs are sub-minor league quality but here are some uni/cap designs I like:
China
Mexico
South Africa

gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 7 January 2006 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the "Dominicana" jersey okay, and the green Mexico cap isn't bad. But the interlocking Netherlands, South Africa, and DR logos? Ugh. Somehow the USA logo is even worse.

I'm assuming that since these are all BP jerseys, the official ones will be a little more tasteful, but the caps mostly look like they ripped off the team logos from Baseball Stars or something.

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Saturday, 7 January 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Canada and the Dominican Republic look almost exactly the same. Maybe we can poach some of their players in the confusion.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 7 January 2006 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

That chinese cap is mad thuggish

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Saturday, 7 January 2006 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link

And the Mexican one is, like, World Cup '86 stylee.

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Saturday, 7 January 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

"I would freak."

--former Boston GM Theo Epstein, on the prospect of seeing one of his pitchers compete in the WBC in March (Boston Herald)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 January 2006 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

"I would freak."
--former Boston GM Theo Epstein, on the prospect of signing JT Snow for $2M/1yr. for 2006 (Boston Harold)

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 9 January 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex Rodriguez is just so good at being a cockfarmer.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 9 January 2006 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha and he just flip-flopped. Who does this guy's publicity?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

yep.

thanks, ofac.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

no Cuba, no credibility

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

mo money, mo problems?

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

StormyD OTFM

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link

This is fantastic. And I hope none of them defect.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 20 January 2006 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Rules announced for World Baseball Classic

January 26, 2006
NEW YORK (Ticker) - The World Baseball Classic took another step towards protecting its pitchers Thursday when the official rules for the inaugural event were announced.

With injuries a primary concern for many players and major league teams, the WBC has implemented strict pitch counts for each round of the event, which will run from March 3-20.

Pitchers can not pitch more than 65 pitches in the opening round, 80 in the second round and 95 in the semifinals and finals. Both managers and the umpire will be informed if the pitcher is within 20 of the limit at the start of the inning, although he will be allowed to surpass the limit to complete an at-bat.

There are also limits to how often a pitcher can pitch. If a pitcher throws at least 50 pitches, he must take the next four days off and one day off if he has thrown at least 30 pitches or thrown on consecutive days.

There are no restrictions on position players. However, no more than 14 players from one major league organization - or 10 on an active roster - will be allowed to participate.

The WBC also finalized the parameters for a mercy rule, which figures to be invoked in the earlier rounds, when powerhouses like the United States and the Dominican Republic face lesser countries like South Africa and Italy. Games will be called if one team is ahead by 10 runs after seven innings or by 15 after five.

The designated hitter rule will be used and winning and losing pitchers will be determined much like the All-Star Game, when the number of innings pitched will not be a factor. All players will be tested under the Olympic drug policy although a positive test for the WBC will not count under MLB's new steroid policy.

The teams in the World Baseball Classic will be divided into four pools and feature round-robin play in each of the first two rounds.

The top two teams from each pool advance to the second-round, where the same format will be used to determine who advances to the single-elimination semifinals and finals, which will be held at Petco Park in San Diego from March 18-20. Ties will be decided by head-to-head record in each round.

Japan will host the opening round in Pool A, which also includes Korea, China and Chinese Taipei, from March 3-6.

The top two finishers will travel to the United States for the second round to face the qualifiers from Pool B, which includes Team USA, beginning March 13.

Pool B also consists of Canada, Mexico and South Africa and will play in Arizona.

Puerto Rico will host Pool C, which also includes teams from the Netherlands, Panama and Cuba.

Pool D will be occupied by Australia, the Dominican Republic, Italy and Venezuela and play in Florida.

The WBC will be held again in 2009 and every four years thereafter.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link

So what happens when you hit extra innings and run out of pitchers?

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:21 (eighteen years ago) link

rock/paper/scissors.

maura (maura), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

part of me is convinced that they're just gonna cancel this thing

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link

This is the real sports equivalent of battle of the network stars...

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

the image of a-rod in a tight t-shirt and too-short shorts has popped in my mind now. thanks, jimmy mod.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

WBC and MLB squads should all adopt short shorts, like 80s basketball style.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Long shorts permanently killed my interest in the NBA.

Joe Sheehan on the WBC rules:


[The pitch limits] look reasonable and conservative, the prudent thing to do. They’re not. Those numbers are each about two weeks ahead of where pitchers typically are in March, and even considering that those intending to compete in this thing have been planning on getting that kind of work, the numbers make me uncomfortable. You can’t find any examples of pitchers going 65 pitches before March 10, or 80 before March 20, in the last ten years. Pitchers just aren’t brought along that quickly.

What I don’t understand is why this isn’t more of an issue. The entire reason we have a six-week spring training is so that pitchers can ramp up from playing catch to throwing major-league innings. If not for the delicate nature of pitchers, you’d need about a week of workouts and maybe another week of games to get ready for the season. Yet now, because it’s convenient for MLB and its coffers, pitchers are going to be asked to do things they haven’t done in years, shift their schedule and be ready to throw competitive innings in early March. I think it’s a terrible idea, I have all along, and I will not be surprised to see more and more pitchers either beg off or have their teams do it for them as the season approaches.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it too late to move the WBC to after the WS?

c(''c) (Leee), Friday, 27 January 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

it IS after the WS!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 27 January 2006 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link

i think it's kind of funny that hugo chavez is such a marxist crusader, but the venezuala ballcap looks like it could be a ballcao for a corporate softball team.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

ain't nothin non-corporate about marxism, amigo

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

i guess it is a cottage industry.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

British bookies are offering the following odds:

Dominican Republic 11/10
U.S.A. 11/8
Venezuela 8/1
Japan 10/1
Puerto Rico 12/1
Cuba 16/1
Chinese Taipei 28/1
Korea 33/1
Mexico 50/1
Panama 66/1
Canada 66/1
Holland 200/1
Australia 500/1
Italy 500/1
South Africa 500/1
China 500/1

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Thursday, 2 February 2006 07:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Caribbean World Series being carried on YES in NY tonight (which I think is one of my cable channels that's out, fuckit).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link

8/1 on Venezuela? I'd wager on that in a second.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

In case you haven't seen the full sked:

http://www.worldbaseballclassic.com/2006/schedule/index.jsp?sid=wbc


I smell an NYC FAP for March 18 or 20, right? Just a little premature to nail down.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I'm going to be on a plane back from SXSW on March 20! This'll also be the second straight year I miss opening weekend of the NCAA tournament due to being in Austin. Fuck.

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Friday, 3 February 2006 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Perhaps the Lord is telling you sumpin about SXSW.

Anyone watch the Caribbean Series? In the trad place for names on the back of unis, The Dominicans had VERIZON and Puerto Rico had MCS (?). One small step closer to Nascar.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 February 2006 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

soccer'd be closer the mark i think

the ad for this last night was horrible though using clemens to represent the us seems about what we deserve.

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 01:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Friend o' W!

(I never watch soccer)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link

i thought it was funny when, reading christina kahrl's chat transcript, when she poopoo'd the classic toward the end, it really seemed like she was just worried it would mess up their 'real' stats and 'real' projections for the 'real' games and teams, etc.
blah.

the leglo (the leglo), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link

and i still like the fact that she mentioned archie cianfrocco.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

really seemed like she was just worried it would mess up their 'real' stats and 'real' projections for the 'real' games and teams

C'mon, 'projections and stats' are your ...projection! She just thinks it'll affect the regular season, ie injuries, wins and losses. I wanna see how the WBC plays out, but I never watch the Olympics myself. Around here we certainly treat the reg season as the"actual ballgames" too.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

The rest of the world has no trouble seeing league football and national play as both "actual games matches;" perhaps it's true that Americans are just not as sophisticated

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Or it's just that it's the first year, and the WBC hasn't achieved an identity yet.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I prefer to think of myself as unsophisticated, but you may be correct

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

here's team usa:

Starters (4): Roger Clemens, Jake Peavy, Dontrelle Willis and C.C. Sabathia.

Relievers (10): Chad Cordero, Brian Fuentes, Todd Jones, Brad Lidge, Joe Nathan, Scot Shields, Street, Mike Timlin, Billy Wagner and Dan Wheeler.

Catchers (3): Michael Barrett, Brian Schneider and Jason Varitek.

Infielders (7): Derek Jeter, Chipper Jones, Derrek Lee, Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira, Chase Utley and Michael Young.

Outfielders (6): Johnny Damon, Jeff Francoeur, Ken Griffey Jr., Matt Holliday, Vernon Wells and Randy Winn.

maura (maura), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

that's huston street, btw. sorry, i thought i got all the second refs.

maura (maura), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Team USA is pretty good.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link

the depth of the relief corps is very key, i think.

maura (maura), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

schedule yet?

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Team USA's outfield is a bit weak (compared to say, DR or Venezuela), unless we're talking about their defense.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 06:32 (eighteen years ago) link

schedule linked above

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks morb. missed it earlier.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

let the trash-talkin' begin:

“I will make them see that they won’t beat Japan for the next 30 years,” said Ichiro Suzuki in an interview after the first day of Japanese World Baseball Classic practice yesterday.

After the Japanese team’s practice at the Fukuoka Yahoo Dome yesterday, Ichiro said, “Not only will we win, but also we’ll make Japanese baseball fans feel that they saw a truly great game. I want to make [Korea and Taiwan] see that they will not be able to beat Japan in next 30 years.”

Ichiro: Korea Smells Like Garlic
Ichiro’s provocative remark is nothing new. Back in 1997, Ichiro, a member of the Orix Blue Wave at the time, visited Korea for friendly baseball games against Korean pro teams. When asked what his first impression of Korea was, he replied, “It smells like garlic.”

Ichiro’s remark angered many Korean players. Pitcher Sohn Min-han (Lotte) said, “Hearing what he said, I want to make him eat his own words by beating the Japanese team.”

“I have been called five times to play on the national team, and from 2000 Sydney Olympics through the 2002 Busan Asian games, the Korea national team has never been defeated by Japan,” said the team’s slugger Lee Byeong-gyu (LG). “We have many world-class ballplayers on the Korea national team; we won’t be easy to beat,” Lee added confidently.

The World Baseball Classic preliminary round match between Korea and Japan will be held on March 5 at the Tokyo Dome.

maura (maura), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the Korean team's chances are hindered by the fact that their two best position players, Hee-Seop Choi and Seung-Yeop Lee, are both first basemen. Lee hit .260 with 30 HRs and 82 RBI for Bobby V's Chiba Lotte Mariners last season.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.magieheim.at/keltica/me/cyberlinks/wind_in_his_hair.jpg

Can you see that I am not afraid?

Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Pitcher Sohn Min-han (Lotte) said, “Hearing what he said, I want to make him eat his own words by beating the Japanese team.”

I bet this quote was 100000X more vicious (and entertaining) in the original Korean.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 23 February 2006 00:30 (eighteen years ago) link

"I want to make him eat his own words, perhaps with a zesty kimchee garnish."

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

"I want to eat his children."

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 February 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

"...and his ears."

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 23 February 2006 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, are any New York bars staying open in the wee hours a la the World Cup for viewing parties? I tend to doubt it...

3-Mar 4:30am Japan vs China - ESPN 2
4-Mar 4:00am Japan vs Chinese Taipei - ESPN 2
5-Mar 4:00am Korea vs Japan - ESPN 2

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm just gonna have to rock it late this weekend, alone in the Midwest with alcohol-laced caffeine...(haha, what's new?)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

WBC to limit games to 14 innings

rxreed (rxreed), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Thank god!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/01/sports/baseball/01venezuela.html

Nice overview of the burgeoning Venezuela/Dominican rivalry (luckily, and perhaps unsurprisingly, they play against each other in the first game of pool D). I really wish I could get ESPN Deportes; something tells me that watching all these early rounds on tape-delay is gonna get old fast.

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Senator Leiter makes the USA pitching staff after Wagner and Sabathia pull out. So, Venezuela's a lock?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 March 2006 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't say I'm surprised that last night's games weren't really worth staying up all night for.

adam (adam), Friday, 3 March 2006 12:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Ugh, hearing Jeff Brantley in 'midseason form' on March 3 is a bummer.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 March 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

No, no, 20 minutes about the bullet train and how polite Japanese people are is really interesting.

adam (adam), Saturday, 4 March 2006 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

TAIWAN IS THE REAL CHINA!!

c(''c) (Leee), Sunday, 5 March 2006 05:32 (eighteen years ago) link

The photo of the Cuban baseball team in today's NYT is just astonishing. It comes after the jump. They're all looking right at you with the same kinds of faces you see in very old photographs, when no one felt any obligation to smile and fancy cameras were curious devices. It is incredible. The looks on their faces is just so relaxed and intelligent and rough.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

It's hard to get the impact on the web, with this small size, but here is the photo:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/03/06/sports/06cuba.xlarge1.jpg

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

We fock yoo ap, mang

Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

That photo is incredible. They look so badass. Either that, or they're about to break into a dance routine a la "Beat It".

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I would love to see Cuban Team destroy at teh WBC

Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Holy shit.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Tracer who's the photographer?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 6 March 2006 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry, that pic is by "Jose Goitia for the New York Times"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 March 2006 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

It really is worth it to buy the paper today to see that pic nice and big. They did a great job with the color, too.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 March 2006 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

He's a cuban photographer working with the AP so I don't think it's gonna be available anywhere else.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 6 March 2006 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Awesome photo. I stayed up late to watch Japan's first three games, being the night owl that I am. I'd like to see them and Cuba both throw down, what with everyone picking USA/DR/Venezuela.

ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link

be that as it may, i'm pretty fired up venezuela v. dr today.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Australia vs. Italy @ 8pm EST!!!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm taping some of US-Mexico just in case A-Rod tears an Achilles.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

IT BEGINS

Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

David Ortiz (L) just launched a MONSTER home-run off of Johan Santana (L)... dudes.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Gameday is up if you go to http://www.worldbaseballclassic.com

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

And log-in information from last season is working.

ample parking (Garrett Martin), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

elaborate please!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

The pitch Ortiz hit was inside and a little high, too; it's pretty amazing that he was able to get all of it. He's gotten so good at hitting lefties in the last couple of years.

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

DR is trashing Venezuela so far.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Not really, it would be 5-3 if Edgardo Alfonso didn't pull a Steve Sax (granted he's back at playing 2B).

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Hahahaha!

Bottom 7TH B:0 S:0 O:2
Pitcher Change: Julian Tavarez replaces Damaso Marte.

Bottom 7TH B:1 S:1 O:2
Miguel Cabrera doubles (1) on a fly ball to center fielder Willy Taveras. Omar Vizquel scores.

Bottom 7TH B:0 S:0 O:2
Ramon Hernandez hit by pitch.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Fenway's gonna be rockin' this year!

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha it was 6-1 top of the fifth when I posted that! I wish I was watching this game!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link

8-5 now, thanks to Ortiz. Looking at Carlos Hernandez' reaction on the replay, it's nice to see that the Derek Lowe Face is truly the international language.

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

ORTIZ HITS 2 RUN HOMER #2! ZOINKS!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm going to have to agree with you dan, in that Ortiz is seeing lefties pretty well.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:10 (eighteen years ago) link

REGGAETRON: A NEW LEVEL

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link

This game is over!

Mexico vs. USA just started:
Peavy cruised through the first on 7 pitches.
Rodrigo Lopez is pitching for Mexico, if he's only pitching 3 innings, he should be solid.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeter sure is playing some intangible defense today.

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Save some of that sass for the blogosphere, DC!

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

KARIM GARCIA SIGHTING! WHO IS KARIM GARCIA?

Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

If he ain't pissing in a pizza joint parking lot, I don't care.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

btw...adrian beltre also played like a man possessed for the dr. two homers, as well, right?

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I am glad to see Beltre doing well. Hoping he puts a nice season together for my M's!

ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Too bad that Dominican v. Venezuela game isn't going to be shown until like 2:30 in the morning, I'd kind of like to watch a bit of it. From the article at Yahoo MLB, it sounds like the crowd really got into the game.

He hit a HR today, but Chipper Jones is really looking old in his face.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never heard of Stubby Clapp, but that is one hell of a name.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I was impressed at the crowd enthusiasm in the DR vs Venezuela game, Earl. Give this event a few years and some tweaks, and I think it could be great.

ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Stubby inherited his nickname from his granddad, who invaded Italy back in '43 or some such shit.

I like to get to know my fantasy players, even the ones picked up solely based on the humorous name factor.

ample parking (Garrett Martin), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 03:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Doesn't the USA jersey logo look like it was designed for the cable network?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link

SUCH an awful logo, just piss-poor.

I saw the SA pitcher fool Kanadian Korey Koskie real real bad on a couple pitches last night and started to despair for the Brewers' season this year. Then, this morning, I saw that he hit a two-run homer later in the game. So yay, I guess. Still, though.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link

That 11-8 win against arguably the worst team in the tournament doesn't give me much confidence that Kanada can beat a proper team.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

The Cuban game 1 starter only lasted 1 1/3 innings:

1 double (ground rule), 3 singles, 1 walk and a HBP

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

The ground rule double saved his ass, it would have been 2-0 Panama.

And uh... the Cubans are not moneyball advocates:

bloop single followed by sac bunt followed by sac bunt

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Followed by a ground rule double heh.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw plenty of 'smallball' in Cuba. Japan was like that til the '60s or '70s, I think?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

When did Cecil Fielder show up?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

About 27 years after Oh did?

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

WWW.LAUNCH.COM

Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:10 (eighteen years ago) link

(for those not watching, cuba up 6-4 over panama after an 0-2 fastball up the pike got skull-fucked out of the park)

Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Stubby Clapp just scored!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Apparently Canadians hit a lot of triples.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Someone less enlightened would probably call the triple the Canada of hits, but that sort of nonsense is clearly beneath me.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah see I'm not sure bringing in Al Leiter is a good idea. . .

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Meanwhile the Cuba/Panama game is still going!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Where is Steve Shasta to rip on Dontrelle Willis? Since the season hasn't technically started yet, should 5ER in 2.2IP count toward his pre or post-All Star Game record?

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay now it is finished.

The US is getting killed right now.

(xpost) hahaha!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha, Dontrelle's got some work to do in the next few weeks.

Will we see the mercy-rule invoked today?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

boomer sounds off:

"Bud Selig needs to resign. That's what he needs to do," Wells said. "He needs to resign and bring someone in who's capable of communicating with the players association and the owners, as well as the players, because there's so much hatred against Bud right now. It's a joke. Nobody likes him."

Wells, who estimated 95 percent of the players dislike Selig, was set off by a New York Times story where the commissioner ordered the Yankees to remove sign at Legends Field in Tampa that apologized to fans because players such as Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez and Johnny Damon are not playing in exhibition games. All three, along with Bernie Williams and Al Leiter, are participating in the World Baseball Classic.

Steinbrenner has criticized the international tournament, fearing that some Yankees could get injured or become fatigued down the stretch.

"And he's entitled to that [opinion]. He pays a lot of money to these guys," Wells said. "If he needs to apologize to the fans, so be it. They get a lot of traffic down there in Tampa to see the Yankees. People want to see Derek Jeter. So if he wants to post a sign that says I apologize for [him] not being here, he owns the place. If Bud has a problem with it, tell him to go take it down himself. And then I'd re-post it again."

maura (maura), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

inside-the-park homer by adam stern.

maura (maura), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link

What's worse: Team USA's defense or pitching? Tough call...

Games will be called if a team trails by 15 runs or more after it has batted in five innings or 10 runs or more after batting in seven innings.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Steven Goldman on his Pinstriped Blog:


I am not all that enamored of events that emphasize a parochial nationalism as a basis for competition, particularly when the rules allow for each team to have ringers, like Mike Piazza playing for the Italian team. Piazza was born in Pennsylvania. If he qualifies for the Italian team, than every player in baseball should be eligible to play for the Olduvai Gorges of Tanzania. I understand the rationale behind this, but for me it detracts from the legitimacy of the event.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Jr. just broke up the shutout.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link

btw, adam loewen looked pretty good for canada as did bruce chen for panama. it's kind of ridiculous how many starters the o's have competing in this thing.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link

8-6!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Woah!!!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm now hoping for an eight-spot so that this game can end with the mercy rule in the next inning.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

revenge is sweet, eh?

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't recognize some of the US players. Brian Fuentes? Gary Majewski? Matt Holliday?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

that's it.

dan (dan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Hello NL West fan Alex:

Without googling:

Brian Fuentes is the closer for the Rockies (serious upside!)
Matt Holliday is the RF (upside? he could be the next Dustan Mohr... uh)
Gary Majewski plays in the midwest or in Canada

That's the thing about Fantasy Baseball, you can keep track of all this fairly easily!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:18 (eighteen years ago) link

;-\

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Majewski is a short reliever for the Nats.

That's the thing about Fantasy Baseball, you can keep track of all this fairly easily!

OTM, that's the only reason why I would know something like this.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Now back to the victory at hand:

http://www.generalbrock.com/level2/stanley.jpg

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link

O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.

With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!

From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:31 (eighteen years ago) link

unacceptable.

btw...al leiter? are you fucking kidding me?

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, Majewski is currently a Nat formerly an Expo, I get partial credit. Also Holliday is LF.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Morbs - I believe the rule for the Word Cup (feetball) is that if a grandparent was from there, you could choose that team. I believe that's also the case with the Classic, and Piazza's grandpa was born in Italy so Goldman can spare me the sanctimony unless he wants to argue that the World Cup's rules aren't boneheadedly nationalistic enough for his tastes. it's been weird reading these American commentators tut at the rules governing what team one can play for -- isn't RECENT and often LIVING family history something to revel in, if one wants? What do they want, a microchip squawking the national anthem embedded in each infant?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Ernie Whitt is the Canadian manager, that is pretty classic. Fans in the stand wearing Ernie Whitt masks is even more classic.

I bet A-Rod thanked the good lord for that last out being dropped.

How about the Cubans taking down El Caballo twice with two outs and the game on the line? That is pretty impressive.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 9 March 2006 01:19 (eighteen years ago) link

haha that happens ALL THE TIME to him when he plays on the brewers, dude is the epitome of non-clutch-osity

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 9 March 2006 02:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I hope the US gets knocked out early so we never have to deal with this nonsense again

Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 9 March 2006 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link

haha, you really think that would do it? Wellll -- naaah.

c'mon Trace, I think his general point was that Piazza ISN'T AN ITALIAN BASEBALL PLAYER.

I saw Lazo, yesterday's quickly-yanked starter for Cuba, pitch there in '04.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah I think if the U.S. loses it'll be more of a "NEXT TIME WE DREAM TEAM YOUR ASSES MUTHAFUCKAZ!"

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I love how everyone is SHOCKED SHOCKED SHOCKED that the US team lost a game. Canada's team is a damn sight better than the Royals and they still manage to win 60plus games a year. And anything can happen in one game (although if South Africa beats us on Friday, I'll be surprised.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

What a satisfying game that was! Ima get me one of those Ernie masks!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Stern can thank Jr. for that HR.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot how screwy that ballpark is.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Meanwhile the DR is beating Italy pretty handily right now.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link

OK Morbius, so the World Cup is fulla shit, too. Whatever man.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 9 March 2006 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I have thrown this to the snarling wolves of ILE -- world cup-ees who claim dubious provenance

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha it's controversial practice even in the World Cup, but I really like it. Usually the reason people play for these countries in soccer is because they might not make their home-squad, but it increases the talent pool for another country and anything which makes teams more competitive is aces by me. I just wants to see good games.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I love that Cuba's DH is batting 8th and bunting. It's so cute. I wonder what Cuban players think about the concept of the DH.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:35 (eighteen years ago) link

It doesn't bother me at all either (aka Alex OTM).

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:24 (eighteen years ago) link

This afternoon I realized that after run differential, the next tiebreaking factor in Round 1 is TEAM BATTING AVERAGE. Jesus.

Assuming that USA crushes SA and ends up with a great run differential:

-- if Canada beats Mexico, they're in
-- if Canada loses to Mexico by one run (and USA beats SA by more than four runs, which is almost certain) then Mexico/Canada comes down to batting average (Canada is well ahead going into tonight's game)
-- if Canada loses to Mexico by more than one run (Mexico 6 Canada 0 in the third, ugh) then Canada is fucked unless SA can keep it close against Clemens and USA

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I think this is gonna be moot.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:27 (eighteen years ago) link

As an A's fan it does NOT thrill me that Loiza was used for five innings, but the guy seems to be a horse so it probably doesn't matter.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Jose Reyes TOOK his first 3 pitches of yesterday's D.R. game! Thanks, Rickey!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 March 2006 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link

That's astounding!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 10 March 2006 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link

A nugget from the Prospectus annual -- Reyes made the all-time top 5 in outs made in a season last year.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 March 2006 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link

That's really depressing.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

But he's EXCITING! The NY media will continue to cream over him as long as he hits a triple every few weeks.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Are the Mets still planning to bat him leadoff or has someone come to their senses?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

'fraid they are. We can only hope he triples his BB rate. Management is obv aware of the problem -- they even mentioned it in official email spam last October! -- but whether they'll drop him to 7th if he doesn't suddenly become selective ... I just can't see that happening. Cuz sportstalkradio would be OUTRAGED at Beltran leading off.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

netherlands win, 10-0, in seven innings ... and shairon martis hurls a 65-pitch no-hitter.

maura (maura), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link

talk about an economical outing ...

Q: What are the pitcher use limitations of the tournament?
A: A pitcher must:

* Not pitch until a minimum of four days have passed since he last pitched, if he threw 50 or more pitches when he last pitched;
* Not pitch until a minimum of one day has passed since he last pitched, if he threw 30 or more pitches when he last pitched;
* Not pitch until a minimum of one day has passed since any second consecutive day on which the pitcher pitched; and
* Throw no more than:
o 65 pitches per game in Round One of the tournament;
o 80 pitches per game in Round Two of the tournament; and
o 95 pitches per game in the Semifinals and Final of the tournament.

Note: A pitcher may exceed the maximum per-game limits in order to complete a batter's plate appearance.

maura (maura), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Poor South Africa.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link

What about China? They're probably worse than RSA!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Jake Peavy's getting tossed around like a ragdoll by Japan... 3-0 top of the 2nd. Ichiro went yard against him to start the game.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 12 March 2006 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Japan loses 4-3 on controversial blown call:

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060312&content_id=1346635&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 13 March 2006 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link

wow was that call shitty

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link

nice to see Damaso Marte up to his usual tricks tonite

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link

actually, it pains me to write that, I really liked Damaso (and met him one time!)

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link

was the Japan-USA game on tv? i really wanted to see that, not this boring goddamn homo KOR-MEX shit on espn. shitballs.
It was on ESPN2, I think.

That was a lame reversal.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 13 March 2006 05:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow. That link now points to a new MLB article, which makes no mention of the blown call (as all the replays confirmed) which the original article pointed out. What a country!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 13 March 2006 05:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I just read the MLB article -- the blown call is back in.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 13 March 2006 07:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Did if they mike Oh and his translator?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's an article which doesn't gloss over the blown call:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=ArhTyBfDUnt7wfDvHLr1TesRvLYF?slug=jp-wbc031206&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

And for those of you who didn't get a chance to see what a bullshit call it was:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3Xq9HgNZXE&feature=Views&page=1&t=t&f=b

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah I was wondering about the umpire makeup. Really lame.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

America doesn't have to play by the rules, did you not get the memo over the last six years or so??

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

MOVE TO CALIFORNIA OR TAXACHUSSETS, YOU AMERICA HATIN' LIBRAL!!!! lolomgwtf

c(''c) (Leee), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

last six years only, tracer?

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

And for those of you who didn't get a chance to see what a bullshit call it was:

I didn't see it.

That call was bullshit. A completely routine tag-up.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link

America in "asshole of the world" shockah

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

c'mon, I'm assuming it was just a blown call in the worse possible situation (by a minor-leage ump, natch) until you guys come up with a Council on Foreign Affairs connection.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah I don't buy the conspiracy necessarily either, but 15 out of 37 umpires (and 3 out of the 4 in this game) is pretty lame. They can do better than that.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link

i love searching for 'wbc' on youtube:

Day when baseball ends
Baseball to which umps authority is esteemed
Umps authority was lost on this day.
And, baseball ends.

This is a baseball birthplace.
Tags // baseball : WBC

Sheehan: "The event’s momentum was killed as the last two days of the Classic’s first round were unavailable on live TV in the U.S. I thought that was an unconscionable decision, given how exciting the first two days had been and how much I, personally, was turned around on the subject... It’s no secret why the games weren’t available; almost all space in the ether for sports broadcasts was occupied by college hoops. This is a big reason why the WBC needs to find a spot on the calendar away from March Madness, or at least its most insane period. Push it to the –bers, push it to later in March, but don’t broadcast two days of baseball and then take the event away."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 March 2006 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Japanese fans cry foul over Classic call

By JIM ARMSTRONG, AP Sports Writer
March 13, 2006

TOKYO (AP) -- Japanese baseball fans were outraged over a controversial call in the World Baseball Classic that helped the United States beat Japan on Sunday.

With the score tied 3-3, Japan appeared to score the go-ahead run against Joe Nathan in the eighth when Akinori Iwamura flied to left with one out and the bases loaded. Tsuyoshi Nishioka tagged up from third and beat Randy Winn's throw home to give Japan a 4-3 lead.


Second base umpire Brian Knight ruled Nishioka safe but Team USA appealed the play, contending Nishioka left the base before the ball was caught, and plate umpire Bob Davidson overruled the call following a brief discussion with the other umpires.

It didn't appear Nishioka left before Winn made the catch on the television replay.

"It was a terrible call," office worker Shoichi Enomoto said a day after the game. "When you have the best players in the world competing, you should have better umpires. We were robbed."

Even Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi weighed in on the call.

"It clearly looked like we were going to win," Koizumi said. "It's a shame to lose on such a strange call."

Davidson is one of 22 major league umpires who lost their jobs in the 1999 labor dispute. He's now a minor league ump who fills in at the big-league level.

In the bottom of the ninth, Alex Rodriguez hit a bases-loaded, two-out single to give the United States a 4-3 victory in the opener of Round 2.

Several Japanese baseball commentators pointed out that Nishioka was shifting his weight to his front foot before the ball reached Winn's glove but that his back foot was still on the bag and Davidson might have been fooled by this.

Former New York Mets manager Bobby Valentine, who manages Nishioka on the Japan Series champion Chiba Lotte Marines, was quoted in the Nikkansports newspaper as saying "It was a bad call."

"I wanted to cry," former Hanshin Tigers manager Senichi Hoshin said. "(Sadaharu) Oh and his players did such a good job and to lose like that is devastating."

Japan will play Mexico on Tuesday before facing South Korea the following day in Anaheim.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 01:31 (eighteen years ago) link

It's not like MLB umpires never make calls that bad. I mean, it was a terrible call, don't get me wrong.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 04:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Holy shit! Korea is on fire. Why is Seung-Yeop Lee not playing in the US?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 06:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the Chiba Lotta Marines offered him more.

Hee Seop's HR was even more impressive than Lee's.

South Korea is looking great. They beat Japan at the Tokyo Dome and now are ridiculing the US team in Anaheim.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 06:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Japan looks like it will protest the blown call:

http://www.worldbaseballclassic.com/2006/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060313&content_id=1347845&vkey=wbc_news&fext=.jsp&sid=wbc

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 06:43 (eighteen years ago) link

"I am not comfortable employing players just based on numbers. We don't know what'll happen in baseball and or to the condition of players. If somebody is in a good mood, I will prefer to use him rather than players with good statistics."
--Korean manager Kim In-sik, on choosing which players to play (The Korea Times)

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 09:50 (eighteen years ago) link

"If somebody is in a good mood, I will prefer to use him rather than players with good statistics."

The Gary Huckabay piece in the new Prospectus on the limits of data analysis does NOT dismiss this line of thought.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Korea as an underdog, but I don't know about having a big "K" slapped on yr forehead.

Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

This whole thing is kind of fucked up. The format is far far too compressed.

I think this tournament has already been enough of a success that it will definitely happen again.

Next time, they should throw the floodgates open to more teams, and spend like two years on qualifying rounds, friendlies, etc. just like with the World Cup. That way it builds anticipation, makes international squads more familiar, and actually gives the thing meaning beyond some hokey international marketing exercise. You can't decide actual championships based on a game, or a couple games.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah I am SHOCKED that the final is a single game. I mean WTF. At least give it a best of three.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i love the idea of creating a mirror format to the world cup. home and home qualifiers, home countries for the finals, etc. i would also love a baseball equivalent of the champions league.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

THe MLB schedule is so tight that I think it would be next to impossible without reducing the number of MLB games per season. You're talking about international travel probably sprinkled throughout the year. The number of games they play is shitballs insane anyway, though, they should slice it to like 130 games. Yeah yeah, lost TV revenue, lost stadium revenue, but a proper intl. competition would reap tall coin and presumably each MLB team could get a slice of that pie.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

To er mix a metaphor or two.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

it would be next to impossible without reducing the number of MLB games per season...they should slice it to like 130 games.

Never gonna happen, but -- HERETIC!

WHEN'S THE NYC FAP, BROS? Saturday or Monday night?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link

i caught the last third of that kor-usa game. wow, is korea really amazing, or does usa just blow humongous bungholes?

also, i i hope ken griffey jr. makes a huge comeback and hella kills some fools. why the hell was his whole family just chilling in the dugout?

Milhouse is not a meme. But 'Milhouse is not a meme' IS a meme. (Adrian Langston, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Wif papa bonds turning over in his grave and his son waiting for willie mays to pull a michale corleone on he ass, Teh Griffeys are teh 1st Family of Baseball now.

Should've Never Give Jimmy Mod Money (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

No, teh boones don't count.

Should've Never Give Jimmy Mod Money (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

fuck that shit, what about the bells?

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i would also love a baseball equivalent of the champions league.

This would kick ass, but how many countries have functionalm, successful baseball leagues?

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 22:16 (eighteen years ago) link

So the DR moves on and Venezuela goes home. And Mexico (barring a tiebreaker where everyone except Korea is 1-2) is probably also going home.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link

it should be the American team going home... err... they're already home!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 04:50 (eighteen years ago) link

South Korea highlights in their 7-3 victory over USA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAAbZ95-p_M&feature=Views&page=5&t=t&f=b

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

US lowlights in the same game (including JETER ERRORS!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuKGDoKLesY

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

JETER BOOTS

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

re: potential champs league

dominican, venezuelan, puerto rican, mexican, japanese all have functional leagues, right? what about korea, italy and greece?

i mean for the lesser leagues you could maybe have play ins...i mean, to take the champs league analogy further, i don't think the bulgarian squads that make it in are expected to do really do anything but be a punching bag for the 5th place premier league club that has to play in, but hey...

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

what about korea, italy and greece?

Yes, the Korean squad (5-0, undefeated in the WBC) has a functional league!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Is anybody else watching this?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:14 (eighteen years ago) link

What happened in the 7th inning of the Cuba/PR game? I saw that Cuba's manager got tossed!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Arguing a call at 2nd base.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:43 (eighteen years ago) link

This is an amazing series. Korea beat Japan 2-1 at the Tokyo Dome last week.

JB Lee just hit a 2-RBI double and got called out at third, breaking the 0-0 tie in the top of the 8th.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:22 (eighteen years ago) link

What a fan atmosphere at the Japan-Korea game! I'm not shocked by it or anything, but it's an amazing thing to watch.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:30 (eighteen years ago) link

S. Korea are like the ChiSox of the WBC. Nobody gave them a chance and they completely wiped the floor with their opponents.

7 hits + 5 walks over 8 complete innings = a combined WHIP of 0.75 so far...

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Japan is not laying down... homerun to lead off the 9th!!! 2-1!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Mastumaka's epic at-bat!!!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Whoa that was a long foul ball.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow Korea who'da thunk it.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Dude he is PLANTING THE KOREAN FLAG IN THE MOUND.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 March 2006 05:58 (eighteen years ago) link

6 and 0. The only team to score more than 2 runs against them was Team USA (in garbage time, yay A-Rod!)

vs. Taiwan: 2 - 0
vs. China: 10-1
vs. Japan: 3-2
vs. Mexico: 2-1
vs. USA: 8-3
vs. Japan: 2-1

Ha, those 1 run games are also reminscent of the ChiSox...

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 March 2006 06:00 (eighteen years ago) link

What the hell wheaties are the Koreans eating?

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 March 2006 06:45 (eighteen years ago) link

So you think Rocket comes back to MLB if he is somehow ignominiously defeated by Mexico?

Larry speaks:

"The tiebreaker is bogus. I don't agree with that," [Chipper] said. "I would change that . . . Knock it down to two flights. Do like a double-elimination thing. Have the winners of the two flights play in San Diego."

In all, however, Jones has greatly enjoyed his WBC experience and would recommend it to those who opted not to participate. He most of all liked being the teammate of Roger Clemens, whom he described as "more like Jesus than I thought."

"He's got worldwide respect," Jones said of Clemens. "He's like EF Hutton. When he speaks, people listen."


http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-spusa164664148mar16,0,7465388.story?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 March 2006 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

"more like Jesus than I thought"!!! :o :o :o
http://tspweb02.tsp.utexas.edu/webarchive/10-24-00/Images/10-24clemens.colorsub.jpg

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 16 March 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I think that is Chipper's very awkward way of saying Clemens isn't the asshole he'd always imagined him to be.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 March 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

That's very akward!
Lets just compaire:That's very awkward indeed!
Lets just compare:
http://www.sportsbettingindex.net/images/sports_01/RogerClemens.jpg http://www.sofc.org/HOMEPAGE/jesushead.gif

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"He's got worldwide respect," Jones said of Clemens. "He's like EF Hutton. When he speaks, people listen."

This quote is even weirder.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Not if yer old enough to remember the EF Hutton TV ads (circa...'78?)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

jesus was a carpenter, so throwing the bat wood sort of makes sense.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

WBC scenarios

USA advances with a win or tie or 1-0 loss.

But here's what else we know:

If USA scores, MEX is eliminated.
MEX can only advance with a 3-0 or 4-0 win in 13 or 14 innings.
If MEX scores more than two runs (before the 13th), JPN will advance unless USA wins.
If MEX scores more than three runs, JPN advances unless USA wins (or MEX wins 4-0 – see above).
If MEX scores exactly two runs – and makes fewer than two out in bottom of ninth – JPN advances unless USA wins.
If MEX scores exactly two runs – including the winning run with two out in the bottom of the ninth – USA and JPN are tied with 5 runs allowed in 17 2/3 innings. One of JPN's runs is unearned (ERA is the next tiebreaker).
So:
• If both MEX runs are earned, JPN advances.
• If both MEX runs are unearned, USA advances.
• If one MEX run is earned, then JPN and USA must break tie with batting average in games between teams. JPN is 20 for 65 (.305). USA was 12 for 36 (.333) vs. JPN.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 March 2006 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't get your calculations. If the US loses they are out. Period. There is no way they can allow less runs than Japan allowed (7) since they have already allowed 10 going into this game.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay I found where you found that, but I can't for the life of me understand it. I thought straight runs allowed was the tiebreaker.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah Shasta I think that info is already out of date somehow because Jon Miller just said team USA will be out if they lose and I would trust Jon Miller with my life.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, but I think that may be because it's already 2-1 before the bottom of the 9th so if the US loses 2-1 they will have only played 8 innings of defense. I guess it's only common games that matter in the tiebreaker (which seems weird frankly.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Fireworks over field = pretty silly when neither team is advancing.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Dude I just realized this is probably the sickest, most awesome final group imaginable, both for regional rivalries and quality of play:

JP
KOR

DR
CUB

Oh my god!! I mean that is just awesome. Especially given the two games already played btween KOR and JP. That humiliated arrogance on Ichiro's face.

And DR vs CUB!!! The victory cigars will be pretty sweet regardless of which clubhouse is smoking them.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I am trying to watch replay of CUB/PR and the wbc site feed brings up "hockey tonight" ERRRR

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I am very excited about this final four.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link

That humiliated arrogance on Ichiro's face.

Japan got another shitty call when a fan intefered with a foul ball close to the stands. The next pitch was the game wining single.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 March 2006 04:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Speaking of:

Mexico took a 1-0 lead off Clemens in the third on a leadoff double by Mario Valenzuela and a two-out single by Jorge Cantu.

But it wasn't that simple.

A television replay showed Valenzuela's fly ball hit the right field foul pole at least 10 feet off the ground and bounced back onto the field. However, first base umpire Bob Davidson didn't see it that way, and Valenzuela wound up at second.

It was Davidson, umpiring behind the plate, who ruled that Japan's Tsuyoshi Nishioka left third base early in the eighth inning Sunday to negate a sacrifice fly that would have snapped a 3-3 tie in a game Team USA eventually won 4-3.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 March 2006 04:57 (eighteen years ago) link

That's some classy non-biased umpiring, yeah.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 06:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeter's bat-on-shoulder K ending the 8th HAHAHAHAHAHA

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 March 2006 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

How long until the US tanking it is blamed on A-Rod only hitting .400 for the tourney?

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 17 March 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I already read on the gay sports BB that it's cuz NO ONE PLAYS FOR ANYTHING BUT A PAYCHECK!

They should alter the jersey to read "US OF A" just like Sutcliffe the Talking Dog kept saying it.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a feeling there will be different umps if this ever happens again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruK3uvGMg1U&feature=Views&page=2&t=t&f=b

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

U SOFA

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

so that was the same ump who botched the call the other day? it's funny that the article above even says "tv replays revealed..." that was a pretty clear homer at first blush, even.

wrt team usa, i'd say: i like buck martinez in the booth okay, but he wasn't such a hot mgr. would it make more sense to tilt the roster towards dudes that play in offseason leagues or try to do more international comps? clearly, there were some issues in the field.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

like what?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Like the US wasn't as good (or as prepared or as serious) as the other teams.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

my guess is that the us thought that their only competition would be the dominican or venezuela, and that they could waltz into the final round. i'm thrilled that they're out.

i went to korea/japan the other night and it was more fun than i've ever had at a baseball game. i really wish i could get down to san diego tomorrow.

dan (dan), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

who selected the team? if the u.s. is serious about competing, it needs a governing org separate from mlb to run the national program...again, like they do w/ soccer. i'm sure the other countries competing have national orgs and if that's the case, then you pool together and create an international governing body for the purpose of managing the competition, creating standards, an ump pool, etc.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

part of the US's problem has to be that other teams -- especially the caribbean ones, even from MLB teams -- are in mid-season form from playing in the carib championship over the winter, etc, while the americans -- especially the hitters -- have some serious rust and poundage to shake off. no doubt this has been mentioned many times. but it certainly prompts questions about the classic's timing. holding it in november would be awesome, because each country (except australia??) would have just finished their own respective club championships and the international cup or whatever would be like "the next level" ... having it in march just feels too much like an exhibition for what is clearly, despite its flaws, a very intensely played and felt competition.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

each country (except australia??) would have just finished their own respective club championships

Cuba's postseason is in March. And as G3r4rd asked in CSTB, are there Japanese winter leagues? How come they're not rusty?

Part of the US' problem was treating it like the All-Star Game, ie, pulling 'regulars' in middle innings (related to the players' teams queasiness about the whole affair, obv).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 March 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link

i think japan and korea are well into spring training by early march. we need a new rule mandating that their international teams not practice at all prior to the tournament and that they come in fat and sloppy. this will level the playing field and allow the us to dominate, restoring natural order.

dan (dan), Friday, 17 March 2006 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

It's my understanding that Cuba suspended their season though and took a month to practice. I'm not sure what Japan did, but I wouldn't be shocked if it was something similar.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Where is Steve Shasta to rip on Dontrelle Willis? Since the season hasn't technically started yet, should 5ER in 2.2IP count toward his pre or post-All Star Game record?
-- NoTimeBeforeTime (mbvarkestra197...), March 8th, 2006 2:27 PM.

His WBC performance (0W-2L, 12.71 ERA, 2.82 WHIP, 6BBs vs. 4Ks) was the 3rd least-effective to date, trailing only Calvin Maduro of the Netherlands and Barry Armitage of South Africa.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 March 2006 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i think dan's got the answer here.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

He certainly didn't help, but really there was no saying that Korea wouldn't have been able to score more than 3 runs regardless of who was pitching (leaving aside the Japan game.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

did anyone else hear that tidbit about how if the Korean team wins they would be exempted from mandatory military service in Korea (as is done for Olympians)? no wonder they're raping all who come before them :'(
Here's where Ichiro got pissed, I don't think he had much of a chance on this (cf: Bartman):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL6Y1o1QlOQ

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 March 2006 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Luis Ayala will have season-ending surgery to correct damage from injury sustained in Mexico's WBC victory over USA:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=nationalsayala&prov=st&type=lgns

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 18 March 2006 05:34 (eighteen years ago) link

These 45 athletes will form the Greek team participating in the Athens 2004 Olympic Games. Our wish is to preserve the National Team after the Games and to gradually include more athletes. The latter will be the offspring of the Hellenic Federation development programmes which have already been operating for two years”.

Panayotis Mitsiopoulos
President of the Hellenic Amateur Baseball Federation

http://www.athens2004.com/athens2004/page/legacy?lang=en&cid=63ca470429149f00VgnVCMServer28130b0aRCRD

WHERE WAS GREECE MAN

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 18 March 2006 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

man, is byung hyun kim the all-time choke daddyest or WHAT?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 19 March 2006 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link

does anyone else but me find it ludicrous that the asian team with by far the best wbc record isn't advancing to the final against cuba? they housed the US team, trounced the chinese, and beat japan twice. now because BHK sticks his foot in the bad mojo they go home? shenanigans.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 19 March 2006 05:13 (eighteen years ago) link

i mean this is the first game they will have lost!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 19 March 2006 05:14 (eighteen years ago) link

But on the other hand, Japan lost two very close games to Korea and another one to the USA that was essentially stolen from them. Their record doesn't reflect how well they played.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 19 March 2006 05:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Given the final four, this Japan vs Cuba was the finals matchup that I least wanted to see.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 19 March 2006 07:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Some bad vibes between Seong Hoon Jeong and Ichiro:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ety10zpiZY

For a team that the commentators have noted as "small ball", Japan really knocked the ball around (and out of) PetCo Park (#1 or #2 pitcher's park in MLB).

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 19 March 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

"Given the final four, this Japan vs Cuba was the finals matchup that I least wanted to see."

That's funny cuz this was the final I most wanted to see. I would have been okay with Korea too, but really Japan is probably the better team. I'm really excited for Monday night.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 March 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Cuba's going to be in trouble if Japan starts Daisuke Matsuzaka, even this early in the season he looks like he's the best pitcher on the planet (ie, he'll be wearing pinstripes in 2007).

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 19 March 2006 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost

It's strange, if you'd told me before the tourney started that Japan vs Cuba would be the final, I'd have been thrilled. But now, Korea was the biggest story of the WBC, so wanted to see them try to go undefeated. And I don't think that Cuba has looked *that* impressive.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link

CUBA, SI!

I slept thru almost all of the night game.

Did you see Lazo take off his warmup over his head, on the mound, when he entered? So cool -- like he just got up from the BarcaLounger.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

South Korea pitcher disqualified from tournament

March 18, 2006

NEW YORK (AP) -- South Korea pitcher Myung Hwan Park has tested positive for a banned substance and is disqualified from the World Baseball Classic, Major League Baseball said in a release Friday.

Park tossed two shutout innings in one appearance with South Korea, striking out three and walking two.

South Korea is undefeated heading into its matchup with Japan in the WBC semifinals on Saturday night at Petco Park.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 20 March 2006 00:23 (eighteen years ago) link

stupid fucking double overtime march madness shit

japan's up 4-0 in the first inning!!

Milhouse is not a meme. But 'Milhouse is not a meme' IS a meme. (Adrian Langston, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 02:44 (eighteen years ago) link

GRRRR. Fucking NIT to boot. Goddamn bastards. I am as disappointed that I missed the team introductions as I am that I missed that (weird) inning.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 02:50 (eighteen years ago) link

who the fuck cares about the NIT? pretty poor recapping too..

meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow this just became a ballgame again. This is so much fun to watch.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Kowasaki's (sp?) slide into home was fucking brilliant.

Is Tony LaRussa managing Cuba?

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:45 (eighteen years ago) link

LOL TAKE THAT U FUCKIN COMMIES

Milhouse is not a meme. But 'Milhouse is not a meme' IS a meme. (Adrian Langston, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link

i just saw the re-broadcast. pretty awesome, i was rooting for the nips but by the end i did feel bad for the cubans. japan winning is hilarious to me in so many ways, most of them involving angry koreans.

Milhouse is not a meme. But 'Milhouse is not a meme' IS a meme. (Adrian Langston, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link

also the rebroadcast was only like... 1/3rd of the game, due to time constraints (ASSHOLES). it jumped from the 1st to the 5th to the 8th inning in like 20 minutes. shitballs

Milhouse is not a meme. But 'Milhouse is not a meme' IS a meme. (Adrian Langston, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Is Tony LaRussa managing Cuba?

We asked this in Brooklyn too.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link

What was up w/ that 9th inning ump flare-up re: some Japanese player deigning to have a foot outside the dugout?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Matsuzaka finished the WBC 3-0 with 2 runs over 13 innings. And the MVP award (over ICHIRO!). This will be his last season with the Seibu Lions, he is an international free agent in 2007.

Verducci in SI.com, pretty good except for the lame Bonds dig:

WBC winners and losers

Sure, Japan may have won the first World Baseball Classic, but find me a bigger winner in the tournament than Peter Moylan, a 27-year-old pharmaceutical salesman from Australia who hasn't pitched professionally in seven years -- and who promptly signed with the Braves for $30,000 after the WBC.

Moylan's story is made-for-Disney stuff. The guy signs with the Twins in 1996 but after two years in rookie ball is run out of baseball, in 1999, with an 88-mph fastball and immaturity issues. He goes home to Australia, gets a job, gets married, undergoes two back surgeries and plays for a local club team. Six months ago, while tossing a baseball in the outfield, he tries throwing sidearm and -- voil?! -- suddenly he is throwing 96 mph, a development for which he has no possible explanation.

Fast-forward to the WBC: He whiffs Magglio Ordo?ez, Bobby Abreu and Ramon Hernandez of Venezuela, and suddenly the scouts are scrambling to sign the guy. Fast-forward to October and ... well, picture a guy with glasses, a goatee, sideburns and tattoos -- his Australian manager called him "Wild Thing" after the Charlie Sheen character in Major League -- on the mound in a tight playoff game for the Braves. At this cinematic rate, why not?

"He's got real good stuff,'' said former major leaguer Pat Kelly, a coach for Australia and a scout for the Seattle Mariners. "He's a real character, but the key is if this time he really works at it and stays focused. He's got a shot if he does.''

OK, maybe Moylan isn't exactly what Bud Selig had in mind when he starting selling the WBC, but just try to find me a better story out of the tournament. While Moylan can't be topped, here are the other winners and losers to come out of what was a three-week spectacular showcase for all of baseball -- not just major league baseball.

Winners

Bartolo Colon
The Angels were rightfully concerned about their Cy Young Award winner getting game-ready in early March after leaving his last postseason start last year with shoulder trouble. But Colon looked terrific (0.64 ERA), dominating Cuba in the semifinals until he was forced out of the game by the pitch-count rule and a blister.

Koji Uehara
Japan's pitching staff faced 267 batters in the tournament and walked only 11. How good was Uehara's control in shutting out Korea for seven innings in the semifinal? The right-hander threw only 18 balls to 24 batters -- and he's not even rated as highly as his teammate ...

Daisuke Matsuzaka
The right-hander hit 95 mph with his fastball and showed he is a major league ace of the near future, perhaps as soon as next year with the Yankees. Matsuzaka, not yet a free agent, would have to go through the posting process, in which a team will have to bid likely more than $20 million just to earn the rights to negotiate a contract with him. And the early word is he is being advised by Scott Boras.

Akinori Otsuka
The former Padres reliever, now with Texas, called San Diego closer Trevor Hoffman on Sunday morning and asked if he could use his signature Hell's Bells song if he had a chance to close the championship game. Hoffman gave his blessing, and Otsuka did him proud with a five-out save.

Infield Drills
Remember the team fielding drill major league teams used to conduct before every game? Not unless you're over 30. Lazy managers and players let it lapse out of practice. But slick-fielding Asian teams did it with such elan -- they cheered for one another during it -- it deserves a comeback. Ditto the pepper games, which were performed by Cuba in its pregame warmups.

Ichiro Suzuki
He showed an iron will and true passion for his country and the tournament while suddenly revealing an outspoken side.

Canada and Mexico
The Americans' border buddies got just what they needed from the tournament: milestone upsets of the U.S. that raise the profile of baseball in their countries.

Jae Weong Seo
The Mets, with age in their rotation, look even worse for trading this young starting pitcher after the right-hander allowed only one run in 14 innings.

Chan Ho Park
With the help of a redesigned slider, Park threw 10 scoreless innings, striking out eight and saving three games. The Padres suddenly have themselves a more confident starting pitcher.

Bob Davidson
And you thought the Koreans played some sharp defense? The Americans' best defensive weapon, Davidson, took two runs off the board all by himself. Oh, wait. Right. He's an umpire.

Losers

Byung Hyun Kim
Brosius, Martinez and now Fukudome. Let's just say the man has some performance-anxiety issues.

Alfonso Soriano
He went 0-for-the-tournament, was rightfully benched in favor of Placido Polanco and made the last out of the Dominican Republic's run by -- does this sound familiar? -- flailing at a slider off the plate. And with the WBC over, he returned to the Nationals for an episode of gross insubordination, refusing to play left field when entered into the starting lineup.

Barry Bonds
Any reason he could not have taken those oh-so-important spring training at-bats in Tempe and Scottsdale as a DH in the WBC instead, for the good of his country and the sport?

Hideki Matsui
If Derek Jeter, the Yankees' captain, could sign on to ditch spring camp for a couple of weeks, so could Matsui, who may lose his status as Japan's favorite player to Suzuki. Well, at least George Steinbrenner loves Matsui for being "a true Yankee.''

United States
The U.S. players suffered from a lack of timing, being less game-ready than most of their competition. It won't happen again. The U.S. already has plans to conduct an earlier training camp, give more thought to roster construction and manage games with more play-to-win urgency, rather than using a "script" to "get people work.''

Julian Tavarez
Only insomniacs and Yankees fans appreciated his dreadful pitching in the decisive seventh inning against Cuba in the semifinal. And the Red Sox think this guy is going to be reliable pitching in the pressure of East Coast baseball?

Higinio Velez
The Cuban manager whined about the umpires after his team lost 10-6 in the final. Call it the World Baseball Classless. The umpires had nothing to do with the outcome of a game in which Velez used five pitchers to get the first 14 outs, falling behind 6-1 despite only six balls leaving the infield, or the four-run ninth-inning blowup that put the game away for Japan.

Luis Ayala
Gee, Steinbrenner was right. Somebody got hurt. Ayala blew out his elbow in a six-pitch outing in the WBC, as if that would not have happened if he were in Florida with the Nationals. Yes, Washington preferred he not pitch in the WBC, but Ayala wanted to pitch for his native Mexico. Give credit to the players' association and the owners for allowing the players to make the final call on participation. If anyone tells you, "Hey, I wanted to play, but my team wouldn't let me,'' please disregard such talk as cowardly spin.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Barry Bonds
Any reason he could not have taken those oh-so-important spring training at-bats in Tempe and Scottsdale as a DH in the WBC instead, for the good of his country and the sport?

i'm not convinced this would've been "good for the sport."

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link

There were also zillions of other star hitters and pitchers who chose to skip the WBC and play in spring training instead, but as usual, Bonds is the only one who committed a crime by doing so.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

To be fair, Verducci villified Godzilla as well (who's healthier and a lot younger, obv), as did Newsday shithead Jon Heyman.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Apparently Bob Davidson blew yet another call against Japan, ruling Japan SS Munenori Kawasaki out on a close call at first.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

With the help of a redesigned slider, Park threw 10 scoreless innings, striking out eight and saving three games. The Padres suddenly have themselves a more confident starting pitcher.

This would be so sweet. Maybe Tom Hicks's head would explode.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
omigosh!

it looks like the cuba & dr ballcaps i ordered way back when are finally ready to ship! yay!

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 21 April 2006 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

While we've got a couple days off, this is coming up again, March 5-23, 2009:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_World_Baseball_Classic

Pool A (Tokyo Dome, Tokyo):

China
Chinese Taipei
Japan
South Korea

Pool B (Foro Sol Stadium, Mexico City)

Australia
Cuba
Mexico
South Africa

Pool C (Rogers Centre, Toronto):

Canada
Italy
United States
Venezuela

Pool D (Hiram Bithorn Stadium, San Juan):

Dominican Republic
Netherlands
Panama
Puerto Rico

Second rounds at Petco Park and Dolphin Stadium, semis and finals at Dodger Stadium.

ESPN and the MLB Network will air all 39 games next spring, including a "World Baseball Classic Selection Show" introducing the rosters and nightly wrap-up studio coverage. No announcements yet on rule changes/pitcher usage restrictions etc, although I doubt they'll change much vs. 2006.

I can't find any projected lineups offhand, so if anybody wants to engage in pointless roster speculation, let's go.

govern yourself accordingly, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Cuba/Japan/USA/DR

Are they pitting Cuba vs. Japan in the semis this year? Weak sauce if so.

Venezuela's still pretty good. US's entire bracket minus Italy is pretty tough.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link

"Spring break" in Toronto is looking pretty good.

Andy K, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Ordoñez made clear that he respects Sojo, but added, “I made my decision. I told them from the beginning that I’m not going to play if they don’t change.”

Said Guillen: “The organization in Venezuela, they don’t do a good job. ,” Guillen said. “They don’t care about the players. They just care about the publicity, their own buisness.... They don’t respect.”

From an early August article. Guillen's ailments are legion anyhow.

Andy K, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Recent

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hQ_rGYOIBuNKk4sMQ5gb6Y9oOPmA

U.S.-based stars Magglio Ordonez, Miguel Cabrera and Johan Santana were among several top players who believe local officials are ignoring them regarding the Classic. Others are unhappy over the reappointment of Luis Sojo as manager.

"We haven't been consulted regarding the important issues," Cabrera told The Associated Press on Monday. "We only want Venezuela to go to the Classic with the best coaches and players, but it's necessary that we work together."

The dispute has drawn resignations from some of Venezuela's organizing officials.

Andy K, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link

wait, does the Rogers Centre have a retractable roof?

Anyway, I'm all for promoting the WBC, but not this month.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 13:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Coleman Stove promotion to keep everyone warm, eh?

Andy K, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I've only been in wintertime Toronto once, and was happy to leave for Cuba after one day...

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

http://beck.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/11/guillen_venezuelan_stars_likel.html

Guillen: Venezuelan stars likely for WBC

Talked on Tuesday with Carlos Guillen, who confirmed reports that a meeting last month between a contingent of Venezuelan-born Major Leaguers and the country's sports minister resolved a lot of issues surrounding the country's preparation for the World Baseball Classic. Guillen now expects many of the country's big-name players to take part in the WBC next spring.

"We made a big step," Guillen said. "It's a lot better. A lot of players, they're happy. We have a new administration, new general manager. Everything's good. Luis Sojo is going to be the manager. We made big changes -- the general manager, the administration, other stuff. We want to play. I want to play. I think Miggy's going to play. Magglio's going to play. Everything's going to be better."

That's huge news for Venezuela, which a few months ago was looking like a major question mark as far as what kind of team it would field. It's almost as big news for the Tigers, which accordingly will have several of its star players involved in the WBC soon after Spring Training opens in February. On top of Guillen, Ordonez and Miguel Cabrera, Armando Galarraga was already expected to participate before this.

Andy K, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link

awesome. i am always amused at the "o noes spring training absences!" hystrionics that always develop over things like this, and things like boston going to japan. as if the world baseball classic isn't training and competition at a very high level. as if these guys aren't tough men at the peak of their physical prowess.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 9 November 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/11/12/sports/BBI-WBC-Japan.php

TOKYO: Japan is hoping to tap its samurai spirit when it defends its title at the 2009 World Baseball Classic.

Japan baseball officials announced on Wednesday that the national team for the 2009 WBC will be known as "Samurai Japan", named after the country's former warrior nobility.

"It's a name that we know our fans will appreciate," said Ryozo Kato, the commissioner of Japanese professional baseball.

govern yourself accordingly, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3747305

A-Rod to represent the Dominican Republic.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha it's like he just wants to be hated, isn't it?

Alex in SF, Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Davey Johnson to manage US, Felipe Alou the DR.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 8 December 2008 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Captain Pump-a-Fist as US team captain.

Andy K, Thursday, 11 December 2008 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link

TOKYO -- Ichiro Suzuki of the Seattle Mariners and Daisuke Matsuzaka of the Boston Red Sox were among seven major league players named Monday to a 34-man preliminary roster for Japan's team at the 2009 World Baseball Classic.

Other major league players named to the provisional squad by manager Tatsunori Hara were Kenji Johjima of the Mariners, Hiroki Kuroda of the Los Angeles Dodgers, Akinori Iwamura of the Tampa Bay Rays and free agent relief pitcher Takashi Saito.

Kosuke Fukudome of the Chicago Cubs was also on the list but New York Yankees outfielder Hideki Matsui, who is recovering from a knee injury, was not included.

Japan won the inaugural WBC in 2006 and will defend its title in the 2009 tournament which begins on March 5 in Tokyo.

Notable players from Japan's professional leagues included on the squad are pitcher Yu Darvish of the Nippon Ham Fighters and 21-game winner Hisashi Iwakuma of the Rakuten Eagles.

Andy K, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 00:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i just heard a radio ad for the WBC which said, "come watch the best baseball players in the world compete! ichiro suzuki, derek jeter, jorge cantu, chan ho park. the world baseball classic!"

soup kitchen electro (omar little), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha it's like he just wants to be hated, isn't it?

it's almost like he makes $27.5 million a year

very very serious (gabbneb), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

What does that have to do with waffling in a way that's just guaranteed to get him more negative press?

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

it's gabbnerd

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

it might suggest that he could not possibly give a shit

very very serious (gabbneb), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i might suggest ban

uncle tombot (and what), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link

and butt (gabbneb), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

"it might suggest that he could not possibly give a shit"

It's hard to know exactly what A-Rod thinks, but doesn't give a shit what people think doesn't exactly jibe with my impression of him.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link

u get a lot of things wrong tho, rite?

and butt (gabbneb), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link

gabb, it's fairly well known by anyone who watches baseball that a-rod worries a lot over his public image and what people think of him

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

that's why he hung out with madonna while married and said he basically didn't give a shit what people think?

and butt (gabbneb), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm Cantu

http://www.deathrow-usa.us/PeterCantuBild.jpg

Andy K, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link

xp: has no idea what he's talking about

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

"u get a lot of things wrong tho, rite?"

Sure. Doesn't everyone? And I could be wrong about this too. Maybe dude doesn't care at all. But for someone who seems to affect an air of "why they hate me" this just seems like providing more ammo to be hated about.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe he is just clueless beyond words. has that occurred to anyone?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

For the last WBC, didn't A-Rod make a huge public display out of his decision about who to play for, snowballing it into a "Sophie's Choice" type of scenario in order to satisfy his ego? As if he needed to look deep within himself and canvas the people in order to find where his true loyalties lay?

Yeah, so I'd say he gives a shit what people think of him.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe he realizes that dominican baseball players have the most fun of anyone in the world and decided that he'd rather play with vlad and ortiz instead of joe mauer and dustin pedroia

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 12:41 (fifteen years ago) link

or maybe in his desperate attempt to win something/anything he foolishly figures that he has a better chance to win playing for the dr

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 12:42 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^ dingdingdingdingding

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 18 December 2008 13:15 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe he is a complex moral giant, an Augustine for our age. didja think of that, huh?

the higgs bosun (gabbneb), Thursday, 18 December 2008 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think anyone (else) thought of that.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 18 December 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

http://jezebel.com/5112300/alex-rodriguez-2-guys-1-cup

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 18 December 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

bnw, Thursday, 18 December 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/2009_World_Baseball_Classic_(Rosters)

Andy K, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Granderson for Italy USA.

Andy K, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link

ordered my tickets last night :D

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 8 January 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Aces! Two Rockies (Grilli & Ianetta) in the Italy team makes my support even more guaranteed.

Mark C, Friday, 9 January 2009 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Balls. Ianetta thinks the USA is more worthy.

Mark C, Sunday, 11 January 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Henderson said he would love to play in the World Baseball Classic for Team USA. If Bernie Williams can come back, why not Rickey?

"What is (the WBC), wrestling?" Rickey said when asked if he would like to play in the WBC. Told it was the World Baseball Classic and games will be played in March, Rickey said, "Can I get in?"

Andy K, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Bro loves baseball. We all love baseball.

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 15 January 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

WBC "roster special" on MLBN tonight.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 January 2009 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Bro loves baseball. We all love baseball.

Adam Dunn doesn't love baseball.

Mark C, Friday, 16 January 2009 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

the 'who HAVE BASEBALLS BEATING IN THEIR CHESTS' line made me lol, but poz's thesis of YOU'RE EITHER A DUNN GUY OR A BLOOMQUIST GUY is bs

゙(゚、 。 7 (cankles), Friday, 16 January 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, but those guys as two extremes makes some sense to me. It's hard not get the impression that Adam Dunn (who I actually quite like) doesn't try terribly hard. </JP Ricciardi>

Alex in SF, Friday, 16 January 2009 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link

damn. canadian starters be dropping like flies!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

my heigl-lohan girl (who's also latina and half-jewish) (cankles), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 04:50 (fifteen years ago) link

oh man I wonder how the Mariners feel bout that

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link

http://mlb.mlb.com/wbc/2009/schedule/

Andy K, Monday, 16 February 2009 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Barry Larkin says there will be CHARACTER GUYS on the USA roster! M Emmet Walsh? William Forsythe?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 19 February 2009 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

looking fwd to seeing this Yu Darvish:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/sports/baseball/20classic.html

Dr Morbius, Friday, 20 February 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Barry Larkin says there will be CHARACTER GUYS on the USA roster! M Emmet Walsh? William Forsythe?

http://blog.squeezeplaycards.com/wp-content/uploads/mickey-hatcher-big-glove.jpg

Andy K, Friday, 20 February 2009 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

thermo when you said canadians were dropping like flies, was it out that jeff francis is out for the season? there will be no upset of the us this year!! i hope so though (c'mon STUBBY CLAPP!)

francisF, Saturday, 21 February 2009 12:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Out w/ Sizemore (groin pull), in w/ Victorino

Andy K, Friday, 27 February 2009 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

"I'd love to have [Granderson's] speed at the top of the lineup," Johnson said, "but I've got a guy named Jimmy Rollins who's pretty good in that spot."

The worst on-base hitter on the roster -- very smart.

Andy K, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 09:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Moises Alou is the Dominican captain; hope he makes it to the second inning.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

China-Japan at 4:30 ET tomw morning on ESPN2. I might be able to get up at 6...

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Yuuuu

Andy K, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

turned it on as soon as he'd left :(

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 5 March 2009 11:25 (fifteen years ago) link

46 pitches in four innings, no hits.

Andy K, Thursday, 5 March 2009 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Way to go, team guy Putz (Team USA exhibition vs Blue Jays): (BS, 1)(L, 0-1) 0.2 3 3 3 2 1 0 40.50

Andy K, Thursday, 5 March 2009 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

ha hahhaa!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 5 March 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Ponson

vs

Volquez

hm

Andy K, Saturday, 7 March 2009 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

DR's looking rough.

Andy K, Saturday, 7 March 2009 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Phillips has just pointed out that, down three runs, the DR has now been backed into the "we need to try" mode.

Andy K, Saturday, 7 March 2009 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link

can't wait - Can/US in two hours! :D

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Saturday, 7 March 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Dutch win! Pedro 3 scoreless

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 7 March 2009 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

ponson just got himself a job this year

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Saturday, 7 March 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

The Canada vs. US game was a gem!

Belisarius, Saturday, 7 March 2009 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

ya, just got home from it.
amazing game. too bad amazingly close losses don't count for anything.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Saturday, 7 March 2009 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Sutcliffe with a gem after Rollins made that play in the ninth. "Rollins won it in 2007 and 2008 -- just give it to him for 2009... ... THAT'S WHY THE METS GO HOME EVERY YEAR."

Andy K, Sunday, 8 March 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Pudge is having a pretty good night.

Andy K, Sunday, 8 March 2009 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link

i know it was so they could set up some force outs and stuff but i had a good lol @ bernie williams being intentionally walked

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 8 March 2009 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link

honkbal > beisbol

sous les paves, Sunday, 8 March 2009 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link

hadda leave TV in third inning

Someone plz take Sutcliffe to the pound already.

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 8 March 2009 06:46 (fifteen years ago) link

lol Willy Taveras getting CS at third to sink DR

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 8 March 2009 13:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Also LOL at Jason Grilli.

Looks like Bobby Abreu followed Edgar Renteria's '07/'08 offseason workout regimen.

Andy K, Sunday, 8 March 2009 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

yhis is on ESPNRadio? fuck Fuckcliffe.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 9 March 2009 00:18 (fifteen years ago) link

JESUS SHUT UP ABOUT THE ROLLINS PLAY GODDAMN SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

Andy K, Monday, 9 March 2009 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link

they didnt even show this Rollins play on the highlights, I havent seen it.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 9 March 2009 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link

JETER FACE INTO SEATS, NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN ABOUT

Dr Morbius, Monday, 9 March 2009 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Rick Suckcliffe

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 9 March 2009 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Has Ricciardi seen what that undesirable Dunn has been doing in his house? Two home runs, four walks, five RUNS, .750/.875/2.250, plus that take-out slide against Canada?

Andy K, Monday, 9 March 2009 09:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Korea-Japan was great, what I beheld in my breakfast haze. Saw YU throw about 3 pitches.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 9 March 2009 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Andy - i've been seeing it first-hand and believe you me JP will be hearing about it next time i bump into him at a Timmies!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 9 March 2009 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link

looking forward to the Italy/Can game today. should be fun!
and hopefully a Can/Ven game tomorrow - that should be a good match up.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 9 March 2009 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

FERNANDO in Mexican dugout! doesn't look any plumper.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 9 March 2009 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow that Korea/Japan game looks like it was quite the pitcher's duel.

Alex in SF, Monday, 9 March 2009 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm watching it rn, it's pretty nuts. anyone know who the American broadcaster is, he played in Japan for a long time?

boner state university (cankles), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

btw the bumper music when they go to commercial is fuckin koto music or something - it's kinda o_0

boner state university (cankles), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

it's Oreste Destrade

Dr Morbius, Monday, 9 March 2009 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

OresteS

Dr Morbius, Monday, 9 March 2009 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Is this the FSN Florida Community Access play-by-play dude doing the Puerto Rico/Netherlands game?

Ian Snell reppin' Dover PR.

Andy K, Monday, 9 March 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Great job Bernie.

Andy K, Monday, 9 March 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Olestra Detritus

Andy K, Monday, 9 March 2009 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Bernie with the Combustible Huxtable impersonation.

Andy K, Monday, 9 March 2009 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link

ugh. what just happened??? it was like watching a little league team play the 1998 Yankees. UGH!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 02:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Molina's and Pudge's bunt attempts were hysterical.

16-year-old Hein Robb MEET CANTU.

Canada WTF.

Andy K, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:53 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone want tickets to game 5 or 6 for pool C? i'm suddenly feeling under the weather.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I want them but won't be in Toronto anytime soon.

Too bad K-Rod can't stretch himself out to four innings.

Andy K, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Los Tigres!

Andy K, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Nick Punto is not having a good time.

Andy K, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ dominican republic

mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Lazo, mi hombre, que sabe?

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 04:37 (fifteen years ago) link

MarmLOL y E-bar

Andy K, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 09:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Yosbany Peraza!

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Peraza is 30, and the Pinar del Rio catcher; I might've seen him there in '04.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0310/mlb_a_simon_300.jpg

Andy K, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

uh. is he ok?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

After Yurendell DeCaster's hard-hit ground ball glanced off Dominican first baseman Willy Aybar's glove, allowing Gene Kingsale to score the deciding run in the Netherlands' 2-1, 11-inning win, Simon raced from the dugout to a spot behind third base. There, he got on his knees and said a prayer of thanks to his mother, and began to sob uncontrollably. He soon was mobbed and buried by a crowd of his teammates.

Andy K, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link

aawwwww

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ dominican republic

― mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:27 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i didnt wanna say it, but... bottom of the ladder!!!

boner state university (cankles), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

it's cuz they didn't have MAY-ROD or Albert

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

No excuse.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

best part about tonight's US/Venezuela game: Jimmy Rollins getting announced as "Henry Rollins".
i shit you not.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 12 March 2009 05:57 (fifteen years ago) link

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/worldclassic2009/news/story?id=3972122

A senior Major League Baseball official said that tournament organizers are expecting a potentially hostile crowd in Miami this weekend. And that's not the only drama happening with Team Venezuela.

Andy K, Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

looooooooove it

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

who in NYC wants WBC FAP

Dr Morbius, Friday, 13 March 2009 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Peavy cold gettin' shellacked.

Andy K, Sunday, 15 March 2009 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link

mrcy ruled!

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 15 March 2009 13:04 (fifteen years ago) link

With CHARACTER GUYS

Andy K, Sunday, 15 March 2009 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Japan/Cuba has been pretty fun to watch so far. 3-0 Japan

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Sunday, 15 March 2009 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Sutcliffe is such a douche. Team Netherlands is showing a little excitement and he says they're grandstanding. Pshhhhhhh.

Belisarius, Monday, 16 March 2009 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link

good luck usa

eman, Monday, 16 March 2009 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link

best part of wbc is cuba's jerseys

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 March 2009 07:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Good thing Jeter (0 for 3) pouted his way into the lineup.

Andy K, Monday, 16 March 2009 09:54 (fifteen years ago) link

lol at Newsday account of Rollins plays Jeter "may not have had the range" to make.

Chipper & Pedroia out w/ aches, boohoo

Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 March 2009 13:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Sutcliffe applauded Rollins picking up Pedroia's slack -- how about the one who actually played 2B, went 3-for-3 with a triple and double, and walked twice?

Andy K, Monday, 16 March 2009 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link

can someone please post the current deets of who's up, who's down, who has a chance, for those of us who would rather drive forks into their eyes than navigate the WBC site

Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Wish I could find a print story on the conversation between Pudge and Pudge's son after Sulbaran (Netherlands pitcher in the Reds' system) struck out Pudge (told by Thorne last night, I think).

Paraphrasing:

Pudge's son: Remember how you said that high school pitchers can't really pitch yet -- they're not ready for anything?

Pudge: Yes, I remember that.

Pudge's son: That pitcher who struck you out -- he was in high school last year. My school played against his school.

Andy K, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks morbs

japan shutting out cuba 6-0 is shocking!

Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Petco Park was less than half full with an announced crowd of 20,179.

this makes me incredibly sad

Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

but it was DICE-K! xp

Semis and final on Sat-Mon eves oughta be good for one FAP, NY.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

"I knew Cuba was a good team, but particularly there was nothing I was too worried about. While I was doing the warming up, did I look so fierce? I thought I had a smile on my face, did I not?"

—Team Japan starter Daisuke Matsuzaka

Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 March 2009 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

does cuba have any particular rep as a patient/impatient group of hitters? i only caught the tail end of daisuke's start but damn they were hacking, and he loves lineups like that.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Monday, 16 March 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

He looked pretty great against them three years ago too.

Alex in SF, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Cubans tend to play 'conservative' ie fewer walks, more bunting

Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

This dude Cespedes for Cuba is a monster.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 05:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Darvish tonight.

Andy K, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Maglio Ordoñez explica el por qué él este 15 de febrero dirá SÍ a la enmienda

Andy K, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link

First 15 seconds of this are more entertaining:

Andy K, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link

all this mid-game bunting w/ 0 outs is WACK

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 01:48 (fifteen years ago) link

PUR for puerto rico makes me lolz

also MLBTV calling the fake to third fake to first gayballs play as the Sutcliffe whereas YES calls it the Nelson. Fite.

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 01:55 (fifteen years ago) link

could MLB get some more sponsors? CALLAHAN, CALLAHAN

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 01:59 (fifteen years ago) link

PAST A DIVING JETER

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link

WRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT

Matt Vasgersian said he was having "a hard time picking the Player of the Game." Can you imagine if Jeter had 3 hits including the game-winner? They'd name the trophy after him.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 03:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Good game.

Andy K, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 12:42 (fifteen years ago) link

"past a diving Jeter" a+++++ username

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link

at least jetes failings are getting some mainstream media traction instead of handwringing by BBP/HBT et al. I mean it's all valid handwringing but Joey from White Plains KNOWS WHAT HE SEES...

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe Joey will see the Yanks signing him as a part-time DH for 2011.

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

(thx Tracer, I owe you a drink when you're Stateside)

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, we've conquered the 'range = 0' battle and now we have to move to the 'value as a bat lim --> 0' battle. Whose who are better @ maths, feel free to correct that limit value.

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Joe Sheehan doesn't like double-elimination:

Are we all comfortable with this?

Puerto Rico beats the U.S. The U.S. beats Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico loses to Venezuela and doesn’t play the Netherlands. The U.S. beats the Netherlands and doesn’t play Venezuela. The U.S. advances.

If I’m the only one bugged by this, fine. I am bugged by it, however, and I at least want to put it out there.

.....

I understand the desire to play it out on the field, but a double-elimination format falls down when the quality of competition is as unequal as it is in these groups. There is a massive difference between playing Cuba and playing South Africa, the difference between a 30% chance of winning a game and a 99.9% chance.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Alex doesn't really care what Joe Sheehan likes.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

well, the commenters point out the other doable options seem worse.

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

the wbc just seems like something where it's better to enjoy it for what it is than try to make it what it can never possibly be.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah I think it's great. My only complaint is that the MLB players seem pretty hampered by the time when it's being played, but there isn't much you can do about that.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

damn, the final on Monday doesn't start til 9:30 ET. What a time to start thinkin' of the in-park fans...

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Not that I've gone to BP today or thought this out much, but...

When I am elected WBC commissioner/dictator:

Four pools of four teams play round-robin -- so, three games played by each team. Team with best record advances. Tiebreaker goes to team that won head-to-head. (Two games played at each location daily; round over in six days.)

After a travel day, four remaining teams play another round-robin, as above. Two top teams advance to finals. (Round over in six days.)

After a travel day, the finals: if one of the teams went undefeated in previous round, it needs to beat fellow finalist only once. Fellow finalist would have to beat undefeated finalist twice (in a row, obv). (Finals over within two days.)

Minimum number of games played by one team: three.

Maximum number of games played by one team: eight.

Tournament takes 16 days to complete, shorter than current set-up.

Andy K, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

sounds ok, but one travel day from tokyo?

cathlamet wa (jergins), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, two.

Andy K, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

what do you do about three-way ties?

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone know Japan's starting pitcher tonight?

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

hisashi iwakuma

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

It's Hisashi Iwakuma (if you mean do I know anything else about him, no.)

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

he won 21 games last year! for somebody!

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Can't be a three-way tie in a round-robin pool of four, right?

But there could be a four-way tie, right? No one would win the pool. Each team in the next round would get a bye or 9-0 ghost victory.

Andy K, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

can't you have 2-1, 2-1, 2-1, 0-3?

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Of course you can. What was I thinking?

Andy K, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe they should make this a proper 16-team double elimination tournament played at Canton, MI's Softball City over the course of a weekend.

Andy K, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah to me that's the problem with round-robin play, esp. when they're gonna have filler teams like south africa who will inevitably get hammered. too many ties, this isn't soccer, if you want to do round-robin correctly i think you'd need each team to play each other twice.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

xxxxxp Rakuten Golden Eagles is who!

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

hah yeah i just looked that up, been around since 2004 apparently? good for them.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

VEN/USA "seeding" to be determined by coinflip (the Twins love this method) in the event of a rainout.

Andy K, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeesh

Andy K, Thursday, 19 March 2009 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link

WHY ARE THEY PLAYING IN THIS?

Andy K, Thursday, 19 March 2009 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Fidel, you old coot.

http://mathaba.net/news/?x=618809

Andy K, Thursday, 19 March 2009 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

"The Japanese coach ordered a bunt from the second – and without doubt first-rate – batter of the team, and as a result, presented the opponents with their second out.

I am sure that, for our experienced team, that would seemed an error whichever elemental way it is analyzed."

he's read Weaver On Strategy

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 March 2009 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Longoria to USA roster

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 March 2009 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Oswalt named to start vs Japan

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 March 2009 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Smart move considering he's the only dude pitching well.

Alex in SF, Friday, 20 March 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Morgan and Phillips on the same fucking telecast.

Andy K, Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Chavez, no! Ravine, yes!

Andy K, Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Chavez, no! Clay Tarver, yes!

Andy K, Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:10 (fifteen years ago) link

WRESTLING

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:15 (fifteen years ago) link

ESPN CLASSIC

Andy K, Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

i am still watching the wrestling cuz i'm too lazy to switch over

boner state university (cankles), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

my friend wrestles for pitt so he is basically providing commentary 4 me

boner state university (cankles), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Venezuela throwing it.

Andy K, Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Er, dropping it.

Andy K, Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

i dont know CLASSIC #

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:19 (fifteen years ago) link

JUST IN TIME

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:20 (fifteen years ago) link

FUCK yeah korea

boner state university (cankles), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Head first slide into home w/o throw.

Andy K, Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:21 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha yeahhhh fuk u venezuela EAT BALLS

boner state university (cankles), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Andy, I bleeve Steve P will be 3rd man on all Sun Night games this year.

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link

take that back 2 ur fukkin commie president

boner state university (cankles), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link

LOLLLLLLLLL

boner state university (cankles), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Wau

Andy K, Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:24 (fifteen years ago) link

we should get a Morgan drinking game goin

KNOW HOW TO PLAY IN BIG GAMES

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link

we should get a Morgan drinking game goin

KNOW HOW TO PLAY IN BIG GAMES

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link

we should get a Morgan drinking game goin

KNOW HOW TO PLAY IN BIG GAMES

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link

(sorry, slow loadin)

lookg fwd to Abreu in OF in Anaheim

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey Joe Morgan do you think Felix would have been able to strike out the side with less than 36 pitches?

Andy K, Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw Choo hit an inside the park HR in Tacoma 3 years ago.

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:33 (fifteen years ago) link

MERCY

Andy K, Sunday, 22 March 2009 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Roy Oswalt RIP

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Monday, 23 March 2009 01:35 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, what'd I miss (saw last hit Oswalt gave up)?

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 March 2009 01:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Has Jon Miller ever called Joe Morgan "J-Morgue" before tonight?

WmC, Monday, 23 March 2009 01:39 (fifteen years ago) link

You didn't miss much; Oswald just got shellacked when the Jap hitters figured him out and started slapping singles to the opposite field. Brian Roberts did not help.

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 March 2009 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link

singles and doubles and triples you mean

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Monday, 23 March 2009 01:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I will argue that the triples were caused by overall defensive ineptitude on USA part but I agree with you generally. Also, Japans are short so they're low to the ground so it doesn't take as long for them to lift and lower their legs therefore they are speedy little twerps.

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

(nb. I have no horses in this WBC race)

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

WHERE, I ASK YOU, ARE THE IRISH

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I take that back. I do like that Mr. Oh because he reminds me of my dad and grandfather if they were Japs instead of Chinks.

Also, WHERE TO I GET A BONG REPLICA JERSEY

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh is a "chink" in case you didn't know that.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:05 (fifteen years ago) link

It's kinda a big deal, he's a national hero but he's denied citizenship because he's not Japanese.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:06 (fifteen years ago) link

JtM, cankles' tempban is over, you don't have pick up his slack for him.

WmC, Monday, 23 March 2009 02:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I DID NOT KNOW THIS HE IS DOWN W/ MY TRIBE ^_^

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:08 (fifteen years ago) link

jimmy the mod i didnt know u were a chong, did u enjoy my ladder of asian ethnicities

GROLIOUS NIPPON ;_; (cankles), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Where to find?

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Mexican Culture vs. Japanese Culture

GROLIOUS NIPPON ;_; (cankles), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:22 (fifteen years ago) link

what the hell is up w/ john miller's shirt + tie combo

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I find your list feasible though I will agree to disagree....

-Chinese (Mandarin)
-Chinese (Hong Kong)
-Chinese (Cantonese/Other) <---I find this designation hairsplitting
-Japanese
-Korean (People eat dogs yet they make fine electronics)
-Chinese (Taiwan) <---but for the grace of the USA this country exists.
-Thai
-Vietnamese
-Cambodian
-Filipinos (the Puerto Ricans of Asia)

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link

-Spaniards
-Cubans
-South Americans
-Central Americans
-Mexicans
-Puerto Ricans
-Dominicans
-New Yoricans

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Let's not do this on this thread.

WmC, Monday, 23 March 2009 02:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes father.

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:33 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah sorry i didnt mean to bring this here - just talkin a lil shop with jtm - we'll take it to stormfront

GROLIOUS NIPPON ;_; (cankles), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:33 (fifteen years ago) link

osamathumbsup.jpg

WmC, Monday, 23 March 2009 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link

So, Steve Phillips is joining the booth on the Sunday night game this season? Judging from body language, J-Morgue would love to push Phillips down an elevator shaft.

WmC, Monday, 23 March 2009 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link

goddamn mccann is amazing http://i40.tinypic.com/x0p6v5.gif

GROLIOUS NIPPON ;_; (cankles), Monday, 23 March 2009 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link

loljetor

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 March 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Adam Dunn wtf

WmC, Monday, 23 March 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

there was no one else in the nation of america to play RF apparently.

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 March 2009 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Let's not do this on this thread.

this and the two posts leading up to it make me (sort of) wish there was an ilb lolthread. i'm fucking laughing myself stupid here

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 23 March 2009 03:54 (fifteen years ago) link

"Jeter... HIGH AND WIDE, SAFE AT FIRST AND A RUN SCORES"

Andy K, Monday, 23 March 2009 07:51 (fifteen years ago) link

FORGOT HOW TO WIN

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 March 2009 11:19 (fifteen years ago) link

this is so fucking awesome to me - japan-korea is my dream matchup basically i love watching these furious hateful asians try to murder each other with baseball

GROLIOUS NIPPON ;_; (cankles), Monday, 23 March 2009 12:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey Team USA manager: sending in the replacement to pinch-hit and attempt to hit a home run into the wind with one out and a runner on third (with two left-handed options, one of whom was, uh, due up) was really intelligent.

Andy K, Monday, 23 March 2009 13:04 (fifteen years ago) link

so said Steve Phillips, even

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 March 2009 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link

ILB: We hate Davey Johnson for making Steve Phillips right

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 March 2009 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Runners in scoring position, 2008

Longoria: .241/.309/.474
Granderson: .299/.373/.536
Victorino: .271/.331/.424

Andy K, Monday, 23 March 2009 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Available hitters who had played competitive baseball during the last several months:

Granderson
Victorino

Andy K, Monday, 23 March 2009 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i sorta hate japanese baseball so much - their cleanup hitter is bunting, in the third inning

GROLIOUS NIPPON ;_; (cankles), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 02:29 (fifteen years ago) link

i think i hate Bud Selig a lot more.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 02:30 (fifteen years ago) link

haha yeah, when he walked into the booth my 'hmm i might have to mute this' impulse went from a kernel of an idea to scrambling-for-the-remote

GROLIOUS NIPPON ;_; (cankles), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link

web gems, nothing but web gems

WmC, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm enjoying the hell out of this.

Belisarius, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 04:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Really good game, f the usa

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link

otm
busted helmet!

bow-edison wa (jergins), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 04:34 (fifteen years ago) link

ah joe "i have said it all night, ichiro knows how to drive the ball..."

bow-edison wa (jergins), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 04:36 (fifteen years ago) link

O snap!

What a game!

Belisarius, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 05:04 (fifteen years ago) link

i hope Selig doesnt declare this a tie.

im also glad i woke up 10 minutes ago.

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 05:12 (fifteen years ago) link

This game alone has been better than the 2008 World Series.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 05:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Ichiro is playing cricket out there.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 05:22 (fifteen years ago) link

jeeeez Joe Morgan making sense!

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 05:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Seriously!

Korea is falling apart.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 05:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Yu Darvish looks great from the rear btw

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 05:38 (fifteen years ago) link

He looks like a giant Japanese elf.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 05:43 (fifteen years ago) link

My friend calls him Regoras. :(

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 05:44 (fifteen years ago) link

congrats Japanese overlords

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 05:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Two outs, first base open, game on the line... why not walk Ichiro? (I had the volume down and could not hear the analysts.)

Andy K, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

They were asking the same thing.

WmC, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Asked about allowing Suzuki to hit with two runners in scoring position instead of walking him intentionally, Kim replied: "I don't know why the pitcher tried to pitch directly to Ichiro. I did not understand. In the end, it did not work out for us. The pitcher and the catcher did not communicate well in terms of their signs. And in the end, that led to the hit by (Suzuki). Of course I have a regret as to what happened."

Suzuki said he wasn't surprised he wasn't walked.

"There was (Hiroyuki) Nakajima (on deck), and he is a batter you wanted to avoid," Suzuki said. "So there was a possibility for the bases to be loaded, and I knew they would want to fight against that, so I wasn't at all surprised."

Perhaps the translation is not perfect here, but maybe Kim should have told his pitcher to either walk Ichiro or give him nothing but pitches out of the zone (preferably high and tight).

Andy K, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I've never, ever, been a fan of walking the bases loaded. Well done Korea!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Fidel's column:

http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2009/march/vier20/13reflex1-i.html

Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:08 (fifteen years ago) link

That is one awesome John Hancock.

Andy K, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

six years pass...

mark yr calendars, NYC

@AdamRubinESPN
The Sept. 22-25, 2016 World Baseball Classic qualifier at MCU Park in Brooklyn will include Brazil, Great Britain, Israel and Pakistan.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Mets farmhands Champ Stuart and Blake Taylor will represent Great Britain and Ty Kelly, Tyler Herron and Josh Zeid will represent Israel in a World Baseball Classic qualifying tournament at Brooklyn's MCU Park Sept. 22-25. Ex-Mets Ike Davis and Josh Satin also will play for Israel. Brazil and Pakistan also are involved in the four-team tournament.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 August 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

pakistani team is . . . interesting

the entire bichette family is playing for brazil, which is managed by barry 'barinho' larkin and pitching coached by latroy hawkins

one of our number is actually at this game!

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 September 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link

what's the Fri night or Sat matinee action?

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/richardgin/status/779010620406530048

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 September 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

looks like there are plenty o' seats for Britain vs whoever tomw night

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

pakistani outfielders are taking suboptimal routes

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 September 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link

Brazil 10, Pakistan 0

GB v Israel up next

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link

aw man

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link

i thought about staying for two but it was so f-ing hot

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 22 September 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

but yeah PAK had some wretched baserunning mistakes, including wasting a first inning single by getting doubled off K-2U, 2-3 and getting thrown the fuck out at 3rd. PAK 2B and SS had p decent gloves but no one had any defensive arm to speak of. 3B at least one-hopped every throw. C had like a 3 second pop time the game could have been over after 5 if BRA had just run at every opportunity

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 22 September 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link

i was wondering if pakistan/non-traditional baseball teams could be very inventive or aggressive w/ defensive positioning because of a) skill level (no power...) and b) no entrenched culture of 'right way-ness'. I thought they could have gone w/ a 5 man IF for the 7th inning when things were falling apart. none of the IF were really rangy enough to make a drawn in infield work so u cld hedge by bringing ur LF in to cover over 2B

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 22 September 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

are there tix on the door for the 7pm game tomorrow?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 23 September 2016 02:11 (seven years ago) link

seems likely

on the televised feed today there was an extended shot of a (white american) pitching coach in the pakistan bullpen demonstrating to the relievers in great detail how, with runners on base, to come set and not balk. it's cool that they got to participate but it does make one wonder why they were chosen rather than the mongolians or carpathians or whomever

as with the current world cup of hockey (team europe! but not the czechs, russians or scandanavians), it's a ham-handed way of pretending that one's niche sport is globally relevant

mookieproof, Friday, 23 September 2016 02:25 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

Tigers coach Omar Vizquel in limbo as Venezuela manager for WBC

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2016/12/02/detroit-tigers-omar-vizquel-venezuela-world-baseball-classic/94832596/

Omar Vizquel is waiting for a phone call.

He is waiting to hear from former Detroit Tiger Carlos Guillen, general manager of the Venezuelan World Baseball Classic team, whom reportedly removed Vizquel from his managerial post earlier in the week.

Vizquel, the Tigers’ first base coach, has been in limbo since Tuesday night’s reports, which were only the first of a number of twists and turns. On Wednesday, the Venezuelan Baseball Federation said Vizquel remained manager. That same day, ESPN Deportes reported Braves coach Eddie Perez would replace Vizquel.

According to multiple Venezuelan media reports, the confusion has stemmed from a conflict between Vizquel and Guillen, who played eight seasons in Detroit. In the days since, a number of Venezuelan players have come to Vizquel’s defense, including Tigers designated hitter Victor Martinez.

On the Los Crosnistas radio show, Martinez went as far as to say he would not participate in the WBC if Vizquel did not manage the team. Many other players have followed suit, including Mariners starting pitcher Felix Hernandez, Cubs reliever Hector Rondon and Rockies outfielder Gerardo Parra. Other Tigers slated to play for Venezuela in the WBC: First baseman Miguel Cabrera, starter Anibal Sanchez and relievers Francisco Rodriguez and Bruce Rondon.

Vizquel, 49, is entering his fourth season as the Tigers’ first base coach. He is considered one of the best fielding shortstops of all-time, winning 11 Gold Glove Awards. He is a native of Caracas, Venezuela.

Of note: The Tigers weren’t expected to non-tender any of their six arbitration-eligible players: Third baseman Nick Castellanos, shortstop Jose Iglesias, utilityman Andrew Romine, right-handed relievers Bruce Rondon and Alex Wilson, and lefty Justin Wilson. The deadline to non-tender such players is 11:59 p.m. on Dec. 2.

Andy K, Monday, 5 December 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

@beckjason
Omar Vizquel and Carlos Guillen together at WBC media session. They said they’ve ironed out differences.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy8arfTVQAATriL.jpg

Andy K, Monday, 5 December 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

2021 semifinals and final will be in miami, march 21-23

earlier rounds in taiwan, tokyo and phoenix

mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Canada threw a no hitter vs Columbia last night in the opener!

one year passes...

One month away!!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 February 2023 03:40 (one year ago) link

some of these are pretty dire

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FojN4YqX0AAlK5R.jpg

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 February 2023 22:53 (one year ago) link

I'd like them more without the huge flags on each one

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 9 February 2023 23:13 (one year ago) link

was thinking the same. looks really junky like that

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 February 2023 23:25 (one year ago) link

netherlands and israel both pretty sick

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 February 2023 23:30 (one year ago) link

also brazil and new zealand. would wear all of those

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 February 2023 23:30 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

i am ready, let's do this

z_tbd, Monday, 6 March 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/4M1V4fU.png

z_tbd, Monday, 6 March 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link

I'll go with

A: Cuba, Netherlands
B: Japan (best pitching), Korea
C: USA (best position players), Mexico
D: Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico

Japan over USA in the finals

z_tbd, Monday, 6 March 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link

really odd, the difference in days of play for pools A/B vs C/D

wow, didn't realize how strong the Netherlands infield is.

i mentioned it on another thread, but i'm really looking forward to watching japan play because of Munetaka Murakami and Roki Sasaki

Baseball’s Best Young Hitter and Pitcher Play in Japan

z_tbd, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link

more on japan's roster here

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/samurai-japans-wbc-squad-brings-the-best-of-npb-and-mlb/

z_tbd, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 19:24 (one year ago) link

that trip from japan & taiwan to miami is gonna be rough

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link

i am unsure about what the appropriate level of excitement is for this, but john axford is coming back to pitch for Canada

z_tbd, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

also, is this going to be mike trout's biggest audience for his games, ever, i guess?

z_tbd, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link

the Venezuela team looks pretty good. surprised Puerto Rico is the favourite for the second seed over them

Might watch the cuba/Netherlands game tonight

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:03 (one year ago) link

i'm here for it

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:11 (one year ago) link

Dude with the horn is getting on my nerves already

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:15 (one year ago) link

he's grooving a bunch of slow-ass offspeed stuff down the middle - Cuba is going to go to town eventually

*airhorn*

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:17 (one year ago) link

netherlands

jurickson profar, jonathan schoop, bogaerts, andrelton simmons, didi gregorious! i don't see them taking out japan or south korea in the elimination round but they might be ok!

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:20 (one year ago) link

Dude was lucky to get out of that inning

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:21 (one year ago) link

yeah, i predict the final score of this game is going to add up to at least 15

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:23 (one year ago) link

Cuban starter who is a pitcher in Japan - looks *really* good

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:25 (one year ago) link

I do like those Netherlands caps

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:30 (one year ago) link

i do too.

cuba's blues, okay, but i dislike pretty much any uniform with a gradient on it. really hard to pull off unless it's a videogame

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:33 (one year ago) link

the pitching coach for the netherlands?

BERT BLYLEVEN

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:38 (one year ago) link

I guess it sounds Dutch?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:44 (one year ago) link

That was my first thought when you posted about how good the Netherlands' infield was--Honus Wagner's playing for them? I had no idea all those guys were from there.

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:50 (one year ago) link

I think the rules are a little more loosey goosey than just where you were born.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:53 (one year ago) link

Truthfully, I didn't even know they played baseball in the Netherlands.

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:54 (one year ago) link

Ya there’s a whole euro league. I’m sure they’re about as popular as pro ultimate frisbee leagues are over here… but they exist!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:59 (one year ago) link

xp
the team has players from not just the netherlands, but also west indian caribbean islands they colonized, like aruba and curacao

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 05:02 (one year ago) link

Just came up with a potential, very obscure, fantasy team name: Newcombes on de Blok

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 05:02 (one year ago) link

Oohh I thought that ball was gone

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 05:03 (one year ago) link

lol, that xander bogaerts hbp was at least 6 inches away from his body

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 05:06 (one year ago) link

Ya. That’s not gonna survive the challenge.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 05:07 (one year ago) link

was able to stay awake long enough to see Netherlands take the lead and then i was out. glad they were able to hang on

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 13:13 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/abRAN0G.png

https://www.mlb.com/news/cuba-fan-with-horn-at-world-baseball-classic

He jokes that he’s not only one of the most famous people in Cuba, but the entire world. The crowd at Intercontinental -- mostly baseball fans from Taiwan -- immediately took a liking to Avila. They cheered with him and, in between almost every inning, groups of people went down to take selfies with him.

The players, of course, know him well (again, he’s always there) and he feels like this is a great squad that he could follow all the way to end.

“They’re very good,” Avila said. “One of the best teams ever. Like the 1990s teams.”

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:19 (one year ago) link

those in the US, how are you watching this?

calstars, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link

the fox sports website, using an ancient login from the brother of a friend of a friend

the usual free shady streaming options (sp0rtsurg3 etc) didn't have the first game, but maybe they'll catch on as the tournament progresses

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link

adam wainwright is starting game 1 for the US and it could get pretty ugly. however, i was completely wrong about my "15+ total runs in NED vs CUBA" prediction so who knows

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:39 (one year ago) link

It was nice to see Cespedes again!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link

it warms my heart to see that lars nootbaar has quickly became a national sensation in japan

https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/11lz47w/lars_tatsuji_nootbaars_signature_pepper_grinder/

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link

LARS NOOTBAAR AND HIS GRIND THE PEPPER CELLY HAVE GONE INTERNATIONAL 🐐🇯🇵 pic.twitter.com/pIJuRCA9Cy

— The Game Day MLB (@TheGameDayMLB) March 8, 2023

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link

on the one hand: yesss
on the other hand: never repeat the word “celly” again ever

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link

heavily otm

all caps celly is unforgivable

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link

wheel/snipe/celly ferda

also

Rik Aalbert Blyleven was born in Zeist, a municipality in Utrecht, Netherlands, the son of Johannes Cornelius and Jannigje Blijleven. His family moved to Melville, Saskatchewan, when Blyleven was two years old before ultimately settling in Garden Grove, California, in 1957 when Blyleven was five years old. One of seven children, his parents anglicized their names to Joe and Jenny, with Rik Aalbert becoming simply "Bert".

mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link

apparently if you are eligible for citizenship in a country you can play for that team in the WBC

na (NA), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 21:16 (one year ago) link

^untrue, i was flatly rejected by the US squad this year, again

z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 21:20 (one year ago) link

“Celly” is a hockey thing

Also john axford looks like an old wizard what happened

China having a difficult 4th inning

giant bat fucker (gyac), Thursday, 9 March 2023 11:49 (one year ago) link

Naturally just as I say that they finally get a third out. Ohtani absolutely nightmarish for them.

giant bat fucker (gyac), Thursday, 9 March 2023 11:51 (one year ago) link

woah - Italy just beat Cuba!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 March 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link

wow, 16 walks on the Japan side of the box score in that game with China!

also, just ran across this, maybe it'll divert your attention for a few moments as well:

https://i.imgur.com/dkeR5Um.png

z_tbd, Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link

also i see that team USA was defeated by the Giants in their warm-up game yesterday, 5-1.

z_tbd, Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link

so is Cuba done, now that they've lost two? or do they still have a sliver of hope going into the game v Panama tonight (which you would think should be win-able)?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link

i think they're not technically out of it yet but they are pretty much cooked.

First Round: In the First Round, the teams in each pool shall be ranked according to the percentages of games won in the First Round. The two teams with the highest such percentages in each pool shall advance to the Quarterfinal Round. If at the end of pool play in Round One of the Tournament, teams within a pool are tied with an identical winning percentage, the tie shall be broken in the following order of priority:

The team that won the games between the teams tied shall be given the higher position. If three or more teams are tied and one of those teams won its games against all other teams it is tied with, then it will be placed in the higher spot. Similarly, if one of those tied teams lost its games against all other teams it is tied with, then it will be placed in the lowest spot.

...

*persevering air horn in the night*

z_tbd, Thursday, 9 March 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link

i like the part of the televised intro when the voice goes "IT'S A NEW DAY IN THE INTERNATIONAL LANDSCAPE!!!"

z_tbd, Friday, 10 March 2023 04:31 (one year ago) link

At 44, he is the second-oldest player in the WBC. He has a mullet, and sometimes, a gold tooth. He throws 75 mph.

He is Kenny Powers, Forrest Gump, Paul Bunyan, Batman and Walter Johnson rolled into one

This is the legend of Shlomo Lipetz

NEW @MLBONFOXhttps://t.co/NzBUPCqE95

— Céspedes Family BBQ (@CespedesBBQ) March 10, 2023

z_tbd, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link

awesome

calstars, Friday, 10 March 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

not a great outing by sandy alcantara

mookieproof, Sunday, 12 March 2023 02:08 (one year ago) link

EAT
TAIN

Andy K, Sunday, 12 March 2023 03:22 (one year ago) link

We could watch replays of Ohtani's homer 24/7. #WorldBaseballClassic pic.twitter.com/IOmqVVj4E3

— MLB (@MLB) March 12, 2023

love to see it

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 14:56 (one year ago) link

uh, whoops!

https://i.imgur.com/pLoOb3A.png

Cuba and Italy advance

The tiebreaker that decided Pool A was: fewest runs allowed per defensive out recorded.

In other words, divide each team's total runs allowed in pool play by the total number of outs they recorded on defense. The two teams with the lowest numbers advance.

Cuba allowed 15 runs in its four games, and recorded 108 outs, resulting in a ratio of .139 runs allowed/outs recorded. That was the lowest in Pool A.
Italy allowed 17 runs in its four games, and recorded 108 outs, resulting in a ratio of .157 runs allowed/outs recorded. That was the second-lowest in Pool A.

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 12 March 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link

i'm not sure if anyone saw the US game last night but it appears that the team has decided to make saluting each other their "thing" for the WBC. worst

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 12 March 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link

jesus christ

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 12 March 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link

don’t all team record the same number of outs unless they’re the home team and they’re winning in the 9th, which is arbitrary? am i missing something?

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 12 March 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link

yeah, you'd think they'd be pretty similar for each team! i guess extra innings might change things, or if the mercy rule cut things short

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 12 March 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link

craziest is that taiwan ‘finishing last’ means they’ve been relegated and will have to go through qualifiers to make the next WBC

mookieproof, Sunday, 12 March 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link

Canada’s starting pitcher Quantrill coughing up 3 runs in over 30 pitches in the 1st inning so far. Did not see this happening.

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 19:24 (one year ago) link

Buck Showalter has a very difficult voice to listen to

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 19:24 (one year ago) link

Quantrill loads the bases, manager comes to take him out. What is happening

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 19:26 (one year ago) link

The pitcher Canada brought in to replace him was brought on during the ad break, the commentary was in the middle of saying “…was about to give it all up to become a farmer.” When he gets the third out to end the half-hour top of the 1st, commenter says, triumphantly, “Not many farmers can run like that.” This is Madbum erasure you know!

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link

Ok Canada had a home run and we missed it cos of the ad break! Sigh.

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link

Freddie Freeman is on his second at bat in the first inning. We’re still in the first - oh wait he actually is out. Unreal how bad this is. An hour for a single inning!

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link

More of the same in the second

It’s so bad. Five pitchers in 1.5 innings!

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 20:04 (one year ago) link

Another walk. My god.

"…was about to give it all up to become a farmer.”

hell yeah phillippe aumont

career bb/9 in 46 major league appearances: 7.0

mookieproof, Sunday, 12 March 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link

He apparently did retire and is a farmer!

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 20:27 (one year ago) link

Commentary: in the UK it’s prime time Sunday and the pubs are watching this game…You never know when a kid watching in London is going to be captured by this game

this game?!

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 20:28 (one year ago) link

xps to Mookieproof: your boy Russell Martin was shown on screen trying not to laugh at the plays

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link

I think this team could probably use Russ on the field.

Also these Britain jerseys are godawful.

centered default text, 11:55pm the night it was due energy

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 12 March 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

“I’m thinking of the British fans at the pubs…” goes on to name five pubs

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link

That was pubs having official watching parties

Which is 5 more than I would have expected.

Yeah I know, but earlier they were talking about it like this was on in a load of pubs and we were laughing

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link

This bottom of the 3rd has been going how long

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link

Two hours to play three innings

Lol they just said this game has been going on so long it might jeopardise bp for the US-Mexico game

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link

Lmao what

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link

This is brutal. Someone get Fergie Jenkins in there to end this fucking thing

“A reminder: this is only the top of the 4th”

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 21:15 (one year ago) link

wow, 16-8 in the 5th inning. potential contender for the mercy rule in a couple more innings

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:03 (one year ago) link

We are all praying for mercy at this point.

every once it's a while it's good to take in a horrible game of baseball

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:26 (one year ago) link

typos but just going to roll with that for now

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:26 (one year ago) link

Hopefully Canada can get some more runs here, the mercy rule is needed very badly

giant bat fucker (gyac), Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:39 (one year ago) link

Ok. We’re mercy ready. Just need a clean 1/2 inning here.
Was good seeing Axford out there.

P. Aumont (W, 1-0)

mookieproof, Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:59 (one year ago) link

the Venezuela team looks pretty good. surprised Puerto Rico is the favourite for the second seed over them
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, March 7, 2023

Wow - US getting spanked now!

it's a beatdown

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Monday, 13 March 2023 04:04 (one year ago) link

I mean, it’s not 18 runs. Yet.

The lads behind the plate are a lot of fun and they should beat the shit out of the baldhead who comes and gives them crap for having fun

i like the guy who impersonates the umpire turning to the right and pointing while calling a strike

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Monday, 13 March 2023 05:01 (one year ago) link

was korea/china the first mercy rule game?

na (NA), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:12 (one year ago) link

literally, just yesterday. the Canada/Britain game. i think there was another before that one too.

If I'm reading this right, unless Canada or Great Britain upsets someone, the US basically needs to beat Colombia by eight runs on Wednesday to advance out of the first round of the WBC. https://t.co/8aAlJPUh0o

— Stephanie Apstein (@stephapstein) March 13, 2023

mookieproof, Monday, 13 March 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link

^^

i haven't listened to too many smoltz-called games, but it struck me last night how wrong he often is. he kept saying throughout the game that the US basically had nothing to worry about, that they just needed to win their last two games, no need to panic. i kept thinking about the tie-breaker rules, which smoltz would describe as "an algorithm" or as some sort of mysterious advanced machine that was of no concern. dude, the tiebreaker is amount of runs allowed per inning played - getting your ass kicked by mexico was clearly a problem

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Monday, 13 March 2023 20:27 (one year ago) link

tbf, beating Colombia by 8 runs doesn't feel unreasonable given the last few days worth of scoring!
also: don't dismiss the Canadian juggernaut!

Great Britain leading Colombia 7-4 in the top of the 9th, wtaf

giant bat fucker (gyac), Monday, 13 March 2023 22:50 (one year ago) link

1) how did this team win
2) the fucking shirt, I cannot

https://i.postimg.cc/Z5H4R5G8/9-A647-EC7-F2-F6-43-C7-9-B8-C-4-AC5-EDAB18-F1.jpg

giant bat fucker (gyac), Monday, 13 March 2023 23:03 (one year ago) link

omg!!!

a: GB winning?!
b: the shirt as pictured is an improvement
c: Canada has a chance!!!
d: omg!!!!

The T is upside down!

giant bat fucker (gyac), Monday, 13 March 2023 23:11 (one year ago) link

unlike literally everything else about their jerseys, it's actually interesting. they should run with it

lol, wait when did the T go upside down? i guess costs had to be cut somewhere to make ends meet

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Monday, 13 March 2023 23:42 (one year ago) link

the 19-year-old canadian pitcher had to pay for the disappointments of the last few US games. feel bad for the kid

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 02:30 (one year ago) link

Not going well for the 19 year old starter Canada’s got going for them… and holy shit John smoltz is intolerable

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 02:30 (one year ago) link

"salutes galore in the first inning for team usa"

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 02:39 (one year ago) link

lol, they also just mentioned a "team cycle" in the first inning

i think of morbs now for how much he would hated all of this lol

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 02:40 (one year ago) link

I must be channeling him because I am still seething about how awful smoltz was to listen to

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 02:51 (one year ago) link

12-1, 2nd inning. this might be a 15-run/5-inning mercy candidate

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 03:00 (one year ago) link

smoltzy

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 03:05 (one year ago) link

I would have happily watched Canada get smoked for another 3-5 innings, but I just cannot take any more of this this clown that the broadcast is apparently centred around.
Goodnight!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 03:11 (one year ago) link

looks like puerto rico threw a combined no-hitter against israel

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 03:37 (one year ago) link

combined perfect game, rather

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 03:37 (one year ago) link

john smoltz does not know the words to a single song. i like that about him though

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 03:42 (one year ago) link

two scoreless innings in the Canada/Colombia game so far - unthinkable!!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 19:44 (one year ago) link

excited to see this Edouard Julien kid make the bigs. some seriously great looking ABs these last three games.
Young, Caissie and (to a lesser degree) Robson all look promising too.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link

and how could i forget future Blue Jays legend, Otto Lopez!!!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:52 (one year ago) link

welp. unless the US loses by 12 runs tonight, Canada is out.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 22:35 (one year ago) link

big game between Puerto Rico and Dominican Republican tonight, with the winner advancing. wish i could watch!

venezuela was the only team besides japan to go 4-0 in "pool play" (still having trouble saying or thinking "pool play")

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 23:00 (one year ago) link

I enjoy the atmosphere of WBC but please sir i beg you bring on the pitch clock

PR/DR game was great. still not sure how/when diaz fucked up his knee, appeared to be after the game ended

na (NA), Thursday, 16 March 2023 12:54 (one year ago) link

Looked like the mildest celebrating is ever seen. I guess he just landed awkwardly?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 16 March 2023 13:17 (one year ago) link

uhh early report js that Diaz may miss the entire season :/

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 16 March 2023 17:53 (one year ago) link

@VanHicklestein Yadi is handling the managerial stress well pic.twitter.com/CCdJpfkOeP

— Ben (@badiguess) March 18, 2023

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Saturday, 18 March 2023 04:58 (one year ago) link

This US/Venezuela game has been a fun one.

it really has. that trea turner HR was a bomb!

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:37 (one year ago) link

finally got the kids in bed just in time to see it.

seems a little unfair they have to play again tomorrow

ts: daniel bard vs martin perez

mookieproof, Sunday, 19 March 2023 04:50 (one year ago) link

RANDY AROZARENA. 😎

No hay más.

pic.twitter.com/RXfT2ijRAo

— Playdoit México (@playdoitmexico) March 21, 2023

Andy K, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 00:40 (one year ago) link

WHAT AN END

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 02:51 (one year ago) link

heartbreaker

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 02:53 (one year ago) link

God damn this has been great, sorry it has to end

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 04:17 (one year ago) link

That was one of the best games I've ever watched.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 04:31 (one year ago) link

lfg Team Japan

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 05:16 (one year ago) link

so uhhh why isn't regular MLB like this??

frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link

I was pulling for Mexico last night but I can't deny this has the makings of a classic final, go USA!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link

my gf is leaving town for a while late tonight, and we are scrambling trying to find a restaurant or bar that might be showing the final that's near the train station (this seems to be impossible)

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link

what about Real Sports?

francisF, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link

Leafs (barf)

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:17 (one year ago) link

Doc Ellis is. But nowhere near the station

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link

hey i didn’t say it’d be pleasant to be in there lol

francisF, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

I haven't watched any of these games and was getting excited about tuning in tonight until I realized it's on Fox Sports

John Smoltz, you were my hero when you pitched for the Barves, but god DAMN man could you PLEASE shut the fuck UP

Brad C., Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link

Update: watching at hoops

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 23:27 (one year ago) link

Sitting in the “Japan” section - so this will be fun

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 23:28 (one year ago) link

Schwarbomb

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 02:16 (one year ago) link

So - Ohtani innthe 9th?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 02:19 (one year ago) link

ohtani vs trout should be fun

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 02:37 (one year ago) link

Another amazing ending

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 02:46 (one year ago) link

was hoping they'd meet in the middle and hug like on that hockey episode of the Simpsons

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 02:57 (one year ago) link

That was a good game but imho the Mexico game had a bit of everything any real baseball fan could ask for.

Also, not looking forward to the incoming hazing for the next couple weeks haha. Already getting taunted 3.5 days before arrival.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 04:08 (one year ago) link

Ohtani and Trout going back to lose 92 games with the Angels after the most exciting game of their lives pic.twitter.com/MmHwXxh2pI

— Richard Staff (@RichardStaff) March 22, 2023

limb tins & cum (gyac), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 07:22 (one year ago) link

what a ninth!!!

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 23:06 (one year ago) link

also just want to say i love schwarbs so much.

but man ohtani. fuckin a. the dream.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 23:07 (one year ago) link

While Sandy Koufax was striking out Willie Mays last night in the AB of the century, I was sitting with my brother-in-law at a G League basketball game--I'd gotten us tickets for his birthday--watching the Raptors 905 try to secure a 15-15 record in their last game of the season. They did. It was thrilling.

clemenza, Thursday, 23 March 2023 01:24 (one year ago) link

lol are you really shitting on that at-bat

i mean i'm happy that you had a good time at a basketball game but read the room dog

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 23 March 2023 07:11 (one year ago) link

Look at this legend.

The country has also fallen in love with Nootbaar’s pepper-grinder celebration, a move nearly every Japan player now does after big plays. Pepper-grinder sales in the nation have actually increased by 15% over the past few days. Fans bring them to the ballpark or shake them at sports bars while tuned into the WBC.


The MLB Japan store has Ohtani & Nootbaar Pepper Mill t-shirts https://t.co/28b1w8DxVU#STLCards #WorldBaseballClassic #GrindThePepper pic.twitter.com/JPcMRQJObU

— Dan Chibnall (@bookowl) March 19, 2023

limb tins & cum (gyac), Thursday, 23 March 2023 07:51 (one year ago) link

Tracer: I thought the self-deprecation was obvious there. I'll include emojis and arrows next time, promise.

clemenza, Thursday, 23 March 2023 11:58 (one year ago) link

no need! the sarcasm on “AB of the century” came across loud and clear!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 23 March 2023 12:20 (one year ago) link

That was not meant sarcastically at all. Surprised I have to explain this, not surprised you'd feel the need to make an issue of it.

clemenza, Thursday, 23 March 2023 12:27 (one year ago) link

well i'm surprised and delighted you consider that the AB of the century. it was pretty great.

in other news how good was Yoshida?? most ribbies in the tournament. looking forward to watching him out in from of the Monster with his flashy throws back to the infield.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 23 March 2023 13:17 (one year ago) link

The Red Sox Instagram has been posting highlights of him all tournament along with all their other guys on teams! Incidentally, I thought of you when I saw that someone in one of the games had no hits but an orr bee eye on account of having hit a sac fly.

limb tins & cum (gyac), Thursday, 23 March 2023 13:22 (one year ago) link


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