"HR" finished with "OPS? What's that?" (It's something your career figure measures at 83% of league average, slickster.) Then Chris Berman "Hell" chimed in with a UPS joke.
I notice they had the balls to do this on a night Gammons wasn't on; he at least is semi-conversant with informed interpretations of the non-trad statistical basics.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 May 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link
agreed it was pretty dumb(/smart) to do this bit when gammons wasn't on, ie when it was impossible to have any kind of actual DEBATE about what is obviously an increasingly important subject.
― John (jdahlem), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― earlnash, Monday, 3 May 2004 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link
It's just sad to me that the most-seen "baseball show" of the week is staffed by a bunch of dumb jocks who pull their assertions out of their asses.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link
I almost went postal on them after some talk about players' tendencies to get hurt and their incogruous training / weight lifting regiments, and comments were made re: "Babe Ruth never pulled a hamstring" and blah blah blah but A) Gammons was there holding it down (saying that the best thing for ballplayers to do to prepare for playing ball is to play ball as much as possible) and B) Krukster & HR were 2nding that (to an extent, tho I think they were still wrong) (because I'm like that).
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link
i was hoping doc would be a bit less...abrupt. anyway, _i_ thought he's being all huffy because the saber community has spent a lot of time and energy to get these ideas into a public forum, and just as they're finally being embraced by the mainstream, perhaps the single greatest channel through which to convey these ideas is busy confusing them with postal services. i'm more amused than angry about it, but i can certainly see how it could be maddening, especially if you've been deeply involved with the stuff for a long time, as (i think?) doc has.
― John (jdahlem), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link
JD, it's not just ESPN... most mainstream pubs I read for any baseball content have regularly featured snide asides about Beane, Moneyball, SABR, etc -- Selena Roberts in the NY Times, a dick named Jon Heyman in Newsday, lots more. It's classic "don't confuse me with evidence" shit, always caricaturing or totally misrepresenting the New Thinking.
Excellent BP (non-premium) article on The Backlash:
http://www.baseball-analysis.com/article.php?articleid=2740
And you're right, Milo; if we are just taking this silly MLB shit seriously (even for fun)... it IS HOLY WAR! Mount up, and ride toward the sound of the guns!!!
David R, I can even understand having Kruk speak on certain players' perspective stuff... he was actually funny last week on getting abused for forgetting the number of outs. ("They notice in Philly. In Seattle, they're too busy drinkin' champagne and eatin' caviar.") But having these guys bloviate on the nuts and bolts of run production shows why they were paid to play, and others were paid to think.... As a guy on the Rob Neyer board posted today, getting on base is almost always a good thing.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― John (jdahlem), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link
See the article linked above: "We're back in the schoolyard."
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 May 2004 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― j.q. higgins, Monday, 3 May 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link
Dave Campbell brought this up during the Red Sox-Rangers radio broadcast last night. The stats he quoted showed that when a leadoff batter reaches 1st base, his chances of scoring are 40%. When he reaches on a walk: 40%. When he reaches on an error: 43%.
― boldbury (boldbury), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link
Ted Williams had a .482 LIFETIME on-base pct, but I guess to H. Reynolds he'd just be "clogging up the bases."
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link
This line out of the article on MSN about last nights RedSox/Indians game jumped out at me and made me think of this thread.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― j.q. higgins, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link
Off-topic: HR's suits are swank.
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
Who would you rather pitch to?
― boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 17:03 (nineteen years ago) link
http://tinyurl.com/2e64r
Flat Earth things that you build teams around: chemistry, "productive outs," 5-tool players (like Billy Beane)...
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link
It's NOT MAKING OUTS that's the key skill.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
I find it awfully silly for Elias to bother w/ concocting this Productive Outs stuff w/out associating it with the thing that maatters in moving runners over, i.e. whether the guy actually scores! Of the 3 criteria used to define a Productive Out:
1) a baserunner advancing with the first out of an inning2) a pitcher sacrificing with one out3) a baserunner driven home with the second out of an inning
only the third has anything to do w/ productivity - lord knows how many times I've seen someone bunted over to second just to watch him dawdle around 2nd for the rest of the inning as hitters flail away. If there's a way to track whether #1 and #2 lead to scoring, THEN there'd be something for Elias & HR & the YES posse to crow about. Who gives a fig if Jay Bell was a great bunter or can ground out to the right side with alarming regularity? A sac bunt's only worth a damn if Van Slyke or Bonilla drives the guy in.
Also - why the hell are Yankee announcers bitching about moneyball tactics when it's the philosophy the Yankees used to dominate the past decade?!?!
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― earlnash, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link
ie, making Neifi Perez sound like Tejada.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link
I actually used to really enjoy his work in the earliest years of his tenure, back before the stat culture wars started.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link
I read Kaufman's summary on Salon and was just flabbergasted.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jimmy Mod: THE HANDLESS ORGANIST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2528809
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Kaufman and I both came up with VOR re Kruk, hence KK is a genius.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― jergins (jergins), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link
lol@them!
― BUTT LIKE A HOLE, BLACK AS UR SOUL (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― BUTT LIKE A HOLE, BLACK AS UR SOUL (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link
RIP
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link
Well, HR's butterknife insight is made for ppl who don't care about baseball.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 12:13 (seventeen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wf1Vg9YwBqA
― BUTT LIKE A HOLE, BLACK AS UR SOUL (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link
Kruk's Oliver Hardy take at the mention of "WHIP" and "advanced metrics" last night was priceless.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I wonder if Steve Philips will answer my chat question?
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 17 September 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link
he did NOT!
"Steve, how are the D-Backs holding onto first place without any Veteran Presence in the lineup?"
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 17 September 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't know anything about baseball, but these guys make me want to bang my head on an immobile object
― gabbneb, Monday, 19 May 2008 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link
this is kindof a fantastic sequence all around w/ the fattey mets fan pointing out the ball being fair
― johnny crunch, Monday, 19 May 2008 01:12 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean if i didnt have to listen to joe morgan blubbering repeat himself 7times
― johnny crunch, Monday, 19 May 2008 01:13 (fifteen years ago) link
i like the "<player> batting .290 in 3-0 counts" thing up above the score...
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Monday, 19 May 2008 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link
"the big city" is like the political version of "big guy"
― gabbneb, Monday, 19 May 2008 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link
"the Mets may need to start bunting b/c Wang is ON today" lolz
― bnw, Monday, 19 May 2008 02:44 (fifteen years ago) link
when the ball is down, you actually see just as much of it as when it's up in the zone
― mookieproof, Monday, 19 May 2008 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link
"and the curve of the earth"
― milo z, Monday, 19 May 2008 05:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Vinaisms
"Hands back, head down, barrel out, boom. Punto with the power."
"Glove down, get the hop, hose."
"Straight back, straight thighs, force play, guy's a stud."
"Ellis -- I mean what can you say, guy's one of the most underrated players in all of baseball, wants to win for those Oakland A's, plays hard. Look at the extension."
"Eck comes to play and here's another example. Didn't get two hands on it but that's OK."
"If I'm gonna go down and get that curve, 0-2 count but I'm protecting the plate, gotta keep my head down, not pull up on it, hands back, don't get ahead of myself, maybe foul it off, prevent the strikeout, create opportunities for my team to win."
― Andy K, Sunday, 15 June 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Paraphrasing Kruk a few minutes ago, over footage of Cardinals trying to win a baseball game, including Looper accepting pinch hitting role and running (instead of jogging briskly!) to first base on ground ball: "THESE CARDINALS ARE GOING TO STAY IN IT BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO WIN BASEBALL GAMES."
― Andy K, Sunday, 15 June 2008 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link
lol @ fernando vina
chris singleton continuing the trend...
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 15 June 2008 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link
"Hands back, head down . . ."
http://archive.southcoasttoday.com/daily/06-96/06-04-96/forearm.jpg
― Pancakes Hackman, Monday, 16 June 2008 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link
"Sometimes sacrificing your body like that is something you have to do if you are going to compete. Get the runner, play solid defense behind your pitcher who is trying to keep your team in the game, prevent runs."
― Andy K, Monday, 16 June 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Hi guys, I am new to the baseball board but have partcipated on the music board a bit. On this topic, did anyone see earlier tonight during the angels/braves game when Joe Morgan tried to explain why mark texiera isnt hitting as well from both sides of the plate? that was completely mind-numbing. Even Jon Miller seemed a bit stunned at how little sense he was making. Vina and Singleton(and even Eric Young) are fine. But the two people who I simply cannot stand are Steve Berthiaume and Orestes Destrades. 100% cringeworthy.
― diamondboxx, Monday, 16 June 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I've pretty much resorted to watching ESPNEWS instead of BBTN to spare myself the "analysis"
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 June 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link
...
― gabbneb, Monday, 22 September 2008 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Steve Phillips, Buster Olney suck at predicting:
http://vegaswatch.net/2008/09/evaluating-april-mlb-predictions-2008.html
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I suck at predicting Ray Durham's performance. :(
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
You're still better at it than film criticism.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Who isn't?
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
And btw I want both McCain and Obama voters to stay home or "go elsewhere," just like the Phillies and/or Brewers. (oh, for a Mets WS trophy followed by a 269-269 electoral tie. nirvana.)
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Go Cubbies, then, just for you.
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm for Dodgers over Red Sox, but I'll take an L-series as runner-up
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Want Tampa to beat basically whoever.
Do not want Red Sox, Angels, Dodgers, Mets or Cubs to win.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Last night's Baseball Tonight made me so angry.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Was Kruk praising the Twins for hitting to the score or something?
― Andy K, Thursday, 25 September 2008 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Wow, I didn't realize Steve Phillips was a midget!
― Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 27 September 2008 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Is this the first year that ESPN has put OPS on a hitter's standard stat line when they're at bat?
― resistance is feudal (WmC), Monday, 25 May 2009 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link
those were Espn dudes covering the Indy 500, right? so bad I had to turn the volume off.
― the dessert speaks (gabbneb), Monday, 25 May 2009 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, though i wish they'd just show the 2 components separately since there's a pretty big difference between a .270/.320/.530 hitter and a .270/.400/.450 hitter
― ۞_۞ (ciderpress), Monday, 25 May 2009 00:31 (fourteen years ago) link
They probably don't want to overwhelm John Q. Fungo with two new numbers at once. (I know, the logic crumbles immediately, I just figure that's the suits' reasoning.)
― resistance is feudal (WmC), Monday, 25 May 2009 00:52 (fourteen years ago) link
oh, Orel Hershiser listing "clean players" like he knows who they are.
Memorial Day always good for carrying the jingoistic flag on bloody sportscasts. Good job, Phillips.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link
would you shut the fuck up plz
― resistance is feudal (WmC), Monday, 25 May 2009 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link
EASY GARDY
― Tito Linndrum (Andy K), Monday, 25 May 2009 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link
steve phillips is such a fucking retard
― some people wait a lifetime for a momus like this (J0rdan S.), Monday, 25 May 2009 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Expecting some expert two-out walk nonsense from Phillips after the break.
― Tito Linndrum (Andy K), Monday, 25 May 2009 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link
could you be more specific, WmC, are you defending the Clean List or God Bless American Hegemony?
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not defending either one. I'm just sick of your constant willingness -- your eagerness -- to define yourself by misery and hatred.
― resistance is feudal (WmC), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link
chill out, pal, it's an ESPN Hate thread.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link
And the NYY thread is the Yankees Hate Thread, and the Mets thread is the Mets Haters Hate Thread, and the politics threads are all Everybody and Everything Hate Threads, and film threads are all Mere Entertainment Hate Threads.
et fucking cetera, ad fucking nauseam
― resistance is feudal (WmC), Monday, 25 May 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link
c'mon, ppl blow off steam. There are positive things on all those.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 May 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Speaking as a neutral non-American who never really understood the whole Memorial Day Weekend thing, at least the jingoistic stuff (and Morbs' reaction to that specific thing) is over and done with as soon as the day finishes, whereas dudes like Hershiser will be spouting blahblahblah over mythical "clean lists" every day from now until we die.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 25 May 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I fucking hate Rick Reilly so goddamned much.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Latest gimmick, in tonight's game -- Schulman in the booth, Phillips sitting down at field level next to the Dodgers dugout, Hershiser sitting down by the Cards dugout. WTF?
― Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahaha i know, it's really random. but whatever, they can't be any worse down there.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 01:49 (fourteen years ago) link
how tall is tim kurkjian
― mookieproof, Monday, 11 January 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/4267267280_616fa92900_m.jpg
― call all destroyer, Monday, 11 January 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
yes that is "tim kurkjian height"
tim kurkjian heineken
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 11 January 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
see? i didn't want anyone to think it was that
― call all destroyer, Monday, 11 January 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
The Giants are new analyst Morgan Ensberg's choice for fifth-best team in MLB. The Mark DeRosa acquisition was huge. His choices for third/fourth/fifth-best starting rotation were, IIRC, Phillies, Rays, Rangers.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Ravech questioned the Giants' lack of power beyond Sandoval. Ensberg's reply was something like "Yes, DeRosa makes every team better."
― Andy K, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
lol wait morgan fuckin' ensberg is on espn now??
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link
He could be worse than Tino Martinez.
― Andy K, Thursday, 11 February 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
i gotta say, if you get a guy who has JUST left the game, you better make sure he's like rodney harrison and does not give a fuck.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 February 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link
the only ex-baseball player I've seen willing to trash guys is Mitch Williams
― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 February 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i've only seen a bit of him but he's enjoyable.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 February 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I wonder how this shows ratings have been affected by the diehard mlb fans tuning into mlb network.
― mayor jingleberries, Thursday, 11 February 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link
how soon before someone tries doing a show w/out ex-jocks?
― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 February 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
What, like PTL/Around the Horn?
― mellow, dramatic (WmC), Thursday, 11 February 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
hahah probably not that soon.
i actually like a lot of ex-player analysts, i think they bring some great perspective. but unfortunately none of the ones i like analyze baseball.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 February 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link
no WmC, I meant no jocks OR shouty circus clowns.
― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 February 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
how many shows did Nate Silver do last year?
well, say what you mean, Herr Doktor (xp)
― mellow, dramatic (WmC), Thursday, 11 February 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Kurk-gem:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/images/02/11/kurkjian-ripken.jpg
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Thursday, 11 February 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link
"We interrupt the stretch run of this fascinating baseball season with something completely irrelevant, epically ridiculous and wildly unimportant. A most absurd streak quietly ended in 2010: For the first time since 1989, I no longer clip every box score of every baseball game from the nearest newspaper and tape each one into a spiral notebook, a daily task that I've estimated, at roughly 15 minutes per day, has cost me 40 days of my truly pathetic life."
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=kurkjian_tim&id=5420098
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0805/mlb_e_kurkjian11_600.jpg
― no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link
:-(
― markers, Saturday, 14 August 2010 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link
derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
― Z S, Saturday, 14 August 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
If you got a system that helps you make a living, it doesn't matter how much it makes you look like a beaten-for-lunch-money-by-Liberace victim
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
schilling also had a good segment about strasburg on baseball tonight last night
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 28 August 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
HEY NOMAH -- "experience" don't mean shit in the postseason
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link
HEY KRUK, IS EVERYONE A "CLUTCH HITTER"?
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i know i'm not supposed to get angered by these guys but jp riccardi saying that cc is the al cy young because he plays in a tougher division w/ tougher line ups w/ the way that felix has pitched against nyy actually makes me want to cancel my cable
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 September 2010 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link
was hilar to hear Nomar try to say "sabermetric"
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 October 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link
"Cybermuh-dih-duh-duh"
― Andy K, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 01:48 (thirteen years ago) link
CHRIS SINGLETON STOP YELLING AT US
― Andy K, Monday, 11 October 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/03/01/heres-j-p-arencibias-divine-tim-kurkjian-impression-with-tim-kurkjian-looking-on/
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2012 05:18 (twelve years ago) link
Read that URL as saying he did an impression of Divine
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 2 March 2012 05:40 (twelve years ago) link
a sidebar on jon lester tonight caused kruk to ramble at great length about baseball and cancer, including the fact that getting those (cancer-afflicted) kids on the field to meet some players would be better than any possible treatment
i know that's not what he meant, but he is about as incoherent an analyst as i've ever heard
― mookieproof, Monday, 3 June 2013 04:11 (ten years ago) link
The return of Nate?!?
http://www.mediaite.com/online/brian-stelter-reports-nate-silver-leaving-new-york-times-to-join-keith-olbermann-at-espn/
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 July 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link
he is about as incoherent an analyst as i've ever heard
― mookieproof, Monday, 28 April 2014 02:06 (nine years ago) link
look for his new book I Ain't an Analyst, Lady
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 April 2014 02:30 (nine years ago) link
only saw the bottom of the ninth, but espn's use of nine (or whatever) commentators apparently only meant that each had only a moment to force his chosen cliches into the mix no matter what was going on in the game
― mookieproof, Monday, 2 June 2014 03:38 (nine years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNRD62vUsAAzIfW.png
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link
every time i think he can't get any goddamn worse
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link
o man
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link
"It's said"
"true #'s"
― Andy K, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link
@jazayerliHey @gehrig38, I'd be happy to answer any questions you have about Muslims, given that you appear grossly ignorant.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNRfWYcUwAAX46b.png
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link
in a bold move by espn, schilling has been suspended . . . from little league ws coverage
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link
I do agree with him that we should've murdered every German regardless of their beliefs.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link
this guy
http://awfulannouncing.com/2015/curt-schilling-is-now-sending-e-mails-to-writers-to-question-our-integrity.html
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link
kruk/schilling out, jessica mendoza/aaron 'fucking' boone in on sunday nights
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 15:53 (eight years ago) link
Aaron Boone is appearing at the SABR Analytics conference, for some reason
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link
schilling fired
@JonHeymanschilling is unique. i used to get letters from a relative of his about how he'd routinely ruin thanksgiving #notkidding
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 April 2016 00:35 (eight years ago) link
im so pumped right now
https://media.giphy.com/media/FVNoYaJTVY0Ja/giphy.gif
― pandit pran nathalie (sanskrit), Thursday, 21 April 2016 01:01 (eight years ago) link
NYTimes with some great shade:
“This latest brew ha ha is beyond hilarious,” he wrote of the brouhaha.
― pandit pran nathalie (sanskrit), Thursday, 21 April 2016 13:38 (eight years ago) link
This got me a chuckle.
"Curt Schilling Quietly Relieved He No Longer Needs To Censor Self For 3 Hours Once A Week"
http://www.theonion.com/article/curt-schilling-quietly-relieved-he-no-longer-needs-52790
― earlnash, Friday, 22 April 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/725063488977166337
― Andy K, Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link
good canadian kid dan shulman will not do sunday night baseball next year
unfortunate, imo
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link
alex rodriguez . . . welcome
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:04 (six years ago) link
now with matt vasgergian
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link
Why?
― Andy K, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link
As noted by @WayTooCrisp, this is A-Rod saying one of the dumbest things ever stated by a baseball analyst—and it's on the marquee national baseball broadcast pic.twitter.com/b7dKQU9NZX— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) September 2, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 September 2019 23:51 (four years ago) link
LOL
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 September 2019 00:21 (four years ago) link
i'm not sure even Harold Reynolds could've come up with that
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link
Hate to lead by 13
― ilxors are still exuberant (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
Drew Magary's profile of Stephen A Smith is really good
https://www.gq.com/story/stephen-a-smith-espn-profile
I reached out to Lamar Odom’s people for this story but did not get a response. I also ask Bomani Jones if the joke—which was definitely funny—was fair to Odom. “I could make the argument that if I were Lamar Odom, it is not something that I would want to hear,” says Jones. “But it is not unfair to Lamar Odom as it appears that he was, in fact, on crack.”
― frogbs, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
mendoza (likely) out on sunday night
https://nypost.com/2020/01/27/espn-moving-jessica-mendoza-out-of-sunday-night-booth-with-more-changes-possible
they should dump a-rod too, but it doesn't sound like that will happen. cone would be good
― mookieproof, Monday, 27 January 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link
Sciambi and Mendoza were great on radio last October, that'd be ideal
but i don't watch SNB
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 January 2020 22:44 (four years ago) link
Jessica Mendoza has resigned as a Met advisor and will no longer be on Sunday Night Baseball. She will remain on ESPN, doing weekday games, among other things.— Andrew Marchand (@AndrewMarchand) February 7, 2020
― Andy K, Friday, 7 February 2020 18:59 (four years ago) link
Five-time World Series champion and Cy Young Award winner David Cone is joining the announcing booth for ESPN's Sunday Night Baseball, which will also feature a secondary broadcast led by Alex Rodriguez, the network announced Friday.Cone will serve as an analyst alongside Karl Ravech, who will become the fourth-ever play-by-play announcer for Sunday Night Baseball. Eduardo Perez will also serve as an analyst for the ESPN broadcasts.For eight games on ESPN2, Rodriguez will join veteran commentator Michael Kay for Sunday Night Baseball with Kay-Rod -- a broadcast similar to the ManningCasts that featured former quarterbacks Peyton and Eli Manning during Monday Night Football this season. The show will feature special guests as well as fantasy baseball and predictive elements.Rodriguez and Kay will also serve as the primary broadcast team for two games during the 2022 season.
Cone will serve as an analyst alongside Karl Ravech, who will become the fourth-ever play-by-play announcer for Sunday Night Baseball. Eduardo Perez will also serve as an analyst for the ESPN broadcasts.
For eight games on ESPN2, Rodriguez will join veteran commentator Michael Kay for Sunday Night Baseball with Kay-Rod -- a broadcast similar to the ManningCasts that featured former quarterbacks Peyton and Eli Manning during Monday Night Football this season. The show will feature special guests as well as fantasy baseball and predictive elements.
Rodriguez and Kay will also serve as the primary broadcast team for two games during the 2022 season.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 02:10 (two years ago) link
one of the classic Morbs thread titles
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 January 2022 02:16 (two years ago) link
hah otm.
that's an incredible press release btw, we are recreating the manningcast with two of the most disliked people in baseball and just wanted to let everyone know
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 02:25 (two years ago) link
which manning is kay supposed to be, the former sports star or the other former sports star
― ✖, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 02:34 (two years ago) link
that's not a "manningcast" it's just a pbp/color commentary booth
― ✖, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 02:35 (two years ago) link
i have no idea how this is supposed to work but cone is Good
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 03:28 (two years ago) link
I think we can all agree that Ravech and Cone (or any other combination of verbal lifeforms) is an improvement over Vasgersian and A-Rod.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 17:29 (two years ago) link
i still don't know how kay is allowed to speak in public he has a horrible voice
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 11 January 2022 18:12 (two years ago) link
Thoughts on ESPN's top 100 players of all time list? No real surprises in the top ten, but it's cool to see so many recent players (80's, 90's 00's) in the top 25.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 3 February 2022 18:03 (two years ago) link
Didn't know about it till your post. The full list:
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33145121/top-100-mlb-players-all
Not sure how much overlap with Posnanski's list...I like Mays at #1 better, though.
― clemenza, Thursday, 3 February 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link
NTBT you cut ESPN a lot more slack than everyone else on the internet - i've seen nothing but complaints about recency bias and typical papi/jeets/mo worship
i sort of mentally threw out the list when ripken was ranked below ortiz and reduced to 2131 and "consistency" - i'm not a hardcore ripken fan (don't even really like the guy!) but it told me what i needed to know about the list
― ✖, Friday, 4 February 2022 00:10 (two years ago) link
The one active player that seems like a stretch to me is Harper. Three or four more solid years, maybe, probably. But you still don't know what you'll get next year.
― clemenza, Friday, 4 February 2022 02:03 (two years ago) link
I haven't read the whole list yet. But I don't have a problem with recency bias. Baseball tends to exaggerate its history, and a newcomer gets the impression that the best games and players were around 50 or 100 years ago. I have no problem with people claiming that Mays or Aaron were the best ever -- but their primes were over 60 years ago. Compare that with the NBA or NFL, where there's more of a sense that today's players are the best there's ever been.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 4 February 2022 14:57 (two years ago) link
What I'm saying is that baseball's anti-recency bias is one reason for its image problem compared with other major sports and helps explain why its fanbase skews older.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 4 February 2022 15:00 (two years ago) link