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Another year, another questionable start date...

Teams have been auto renewed and league is here.
Same rules as always, I'm sure we know them by now.
Let's try to submit our picks two weeks before baseball usually starts... let's say, March 19. Hopefully we can draft the 27th, but won't set that until the whole labour thing gets sorted out. Will push back if things are looking bad.
Here is Will's super-awesome spreadsheet!

Apparently we all hate XBH. I've checked and there doesn't appear to be any new scoring stats – but if we want to replace XBH with something else for hitting (ideally a counting stat) go ahead and shout out ideas (I still like the idea of fielding% until a better fielding metric gets added, but thats just me).

And congrats again to last year's champ, NoTimeB4Time. He is now the baddie (without a Vlady)!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 11 February 2022 21:48 (two years ago) link

also: our league can now drink in Ontario!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 11 February 2022 21:52 (two years ago) link

oh hey! may there be baseball this year

i am definitely going to vote against FPCT, i've been in leagues with that and it's just a mess. it basically just adds an element of randomness. i don't think there will ever be a good fielding stat for fantasy tbh

category ideas i had last year:
1. replace XBH with doubles. XBH doesn't work because it's basically the same stat as SLG, it double counts HRs, and the league already feels very tilted towards home run hitting (and i say this as the new owner of vlad and joey gallo). the one thing we're relying on it to count is doubles. triples are very rare. i really wish yahoo offered a "2B+3B" stat or even better "SB+3B," but until then i don't think it's a crime if we ignore triples (they're still counted in SLG at least). the best triples hitters in baseball don't hit enough triples to make them better XBH targets than power hitters who hit a lot of doubles and HRs, no one's drafting nicky lopez because he might hit 3 more triples than the next guy.

2. or just cut that category entirely and make it a 6x6 league, also cutting one of W/QS or one of K/K:BB. this would at least make SBs a little more important and harder for people to punt in favor of raw power

3. replace NSB with SB. NSB is "better" and more accurate but having negative SBs is another thing that makes it easier for people to punt it entirely. with small rosters and 6/7 categories being hitting-related, there's not much room to really incorporate or plan around speed outside of a few really good players. so removing caught stealings would maybe make the league a little more speed-friendly by helping that player type stand out a bit more

, Sunday, 13 February 2022 02:23 (two years ago) link

i am open to 1&2, but waaaay prefer NSB. if people want to punt it, go for it – other managers will gladly take those points. it's something i think is important to evaluating a player overall, the speed doesn't matter if dude's a terrible baserunner and making lousy outs. i think it's great they way it can elevate the value of a guy like Bichette (or Tim Raines!) who does not make mistakes out there.

one stat i really wish we had, was one for both RBI/runs. basically RBI + R - HR. those are both team dependent stats to a degree and I'd love to mitigate that my merging it into one.
on that note – i might be cool with dropping W. or doubles is a neat idea instead of XBH.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 13 February 2022 04:50 (two years ago) link

keepers I'm probably going with (only two carryovers from last year!)

Francisco Lindor 28
Max Fried 28
Jack Flaherty 26
Ozzie Albies 25
jarred Kelenic 22

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 13 February 2022 04:53 (two years ago) link

if people want to punt it, go for it – other managers will gladly take those points

i just assumed everyone punted NSB every year?!

― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, May 24, 2021 1:19 PM (eight months ago) bookmarkflaglink


hmmmm........🧐🧐🧐

it's not a big deal or a hill i'll die on, but my point is i feel like the league is set up so that the managers that take those points are putting themselves at a general disadvantage unless they get one of the few first-round burners who also contribute in the other 6 categories. combination of small rosters and 7 categories makes it so a speed-first player has to be exceptionally good at stealing bags to make up for the hits you take in other categories, and incorporating CS into SB further limits the population of viable SB-first candidates. i don't think i have access to last year's full standings but i believe the top 2 teams were ones that gave up on NSBs in favor of hitting stats.

but lowering the number of categories could also help. and/or adding more active roster spots if people are into that.......

, Sunday, 13 February 2022 09:27 (two years ago) link

Ok. I did mean that comment somewhat tongue in cheek. I do take a guys speed into consideration (it wound up being one of two deciding stats in my league last year) and it’s something I’ll target later in drafts if I don’t land any speedy guy in the earlier rounds when I’m in “best guy I can grab” mode.

I really wish yahoo would add some fresh stats for us. No idea what the issue is.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 13 February 2022 16:41 (two years ago) link

And here’s the full, expanded settings from 2021.
If you view the league page through a web browser instead of the app, there’s a lot more info.

The top 5 teams finished as follows in NSB: 7th, 4th, 9th, 1st & 5th. Out of 13 teams, I’d say only one of the top 5 teams came close to punting it.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 13 February 2022 16:52 (two years ago) link

In my first post there I meant to in my *other* league

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 13 February 2022 16:53 (two years ago) link

thanks for that link. it's actually bleaker than i thought though, NSB was the worst category (including pitching) for each of the top 3 teams. there were points to be gained or protected there for all 3 but outside of the occasional nicky lopez/whit merrifield stream they all decided it wasn't worth pursuing, which was what i meant by "gave up on." idk if changing NSBs to SBs would make players like lopez or merrifield (who is a beast in standard 5x5, i was surprised to see him dropped and added multiple times) more palatable, but with the current league setup i think NSBs are definitely the easiest category to marginalize.

other wacky idea: destroy XBHs, replace SLG with doubles, fuck a home run

, Sunday, 13 February 2022 19:22 (two years ago) link

Ya, Merrifield had the worst year of his career. (Tho 40 for 44 is sb attempts!)

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 13 February 2022 20:21 (two years ago) link

he was still great irl and in 5x5, rostered in 98% of leagues and still going in the 4th round this year. in 5x5 he's amazing with SBs and R, good in AVG and surprisingly useful in RBIs due to his doubles hitting. in our league he kinda sucked because his biggest failing was amplified 3x in HR, SLG and XBH, and his main calling card was dampened (though -4 SBs is not a huge deal)

again i really don't care that much about NSBs and am mostly just arguing for the sake of it, i think it's more important to address the overlapping power categories

, Sunday, 13 February 2022 22:07 (two years ago) link

i think that's the wrong spreadsheet at the top! try this one

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Sunday, 13 February 2022 23:22 (two years ago) link

i like ✖'s ideas above, def think doubles over XBH at the very least. also attracted to the 6x6 thing bc i don't like QS as a stat.

i'm agnostic on NSB but looking at the stats it really only seems like three teams didn't punt NSB! and they finished 4/9/8. or maybe steals are just down, idk. that said i always look at steals (net or otherwise) as a "you can get a few on the waivers" stat anyway, SAGNOF (then again i have only won once and haven't done well in a few years sooooo what do i know)

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Sunday, 13 February 2022 23:33 (two years ago) link

anyway assuming no injuries between now and keeper deadline i'm keeping


Wander Franco 21
Eloy Jimenez 25
Shane Bieber 26
Trea Turner 28
Mookie Betts 29

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Sunday, 13 February 2022 23:40 (two years ago) link

As defending champ, I accept my role as the dark lord of the league this year. The fantasy season WILL be played! I will use replacement fantasy players if I have to!

but my point is i feel like the league is set up so that the managers that take those points are putting themselves at a general disadvantage unless they get one of the few first-round burners who also contribute in the other 6 categories

I agree, and I'm also in favour of a stats change. Most stats are flawed in some way, but there are a bunch of interesting ones that we've never used: inherited runners scored, net saves, on base percentage against ... and those are just the pitching categories.

I also don't mind a little bit of randomness thrown in, e.g. categories like no-hitters and cycles (we had both one year, but one is enough).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 14 February 2022 08:42 (two years ago) link

We did have rando stats that one season (maybe two) but everyone turned on them pretty quickly from what I remember. It was more fun in concept than actually having do deal with a middling team jump up 13 points over night and be pretty much entrenched there.
I also remember having blown saves one year (not much different from having net saves) and very quickly people stopped carrying set up guys and we ditched that pretty quickly too.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 14 February 2022 13:58 (two years ago) link

One random stat can add some unpredictability to the season -- a team middling in 8th place might fluke into a no-hitter and jump to 3rd or 4th, the potential is there to keep more teams in the hunt.

I agree about blown saves, that's a terrible stat. But there are plenty of other choices. Even a stat like singles adds some strategy and forces teams to add players with a specific skill (rather than just the best overall hitters).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 14 February 2022 15:01 (two years ago) link

i feel like if we did one rando stat, we'd have to have at least a 2nd (one pitcher, one hitter) to make it a little more equitable.
my main issue is how unpopular it was last time. maybe something slightly less rare like shutouts and grand slams might get more people on board?
i do like the idea of OBP against or something similar. we'd have to ditch WHIP tho.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 14 February 2022 15:21 (two years ago) link

i am not smart enough about fantasy baseball to give good input on all this but NSB does seem like a fairly useless category right now. i'd be in favor of switching it out or dropping it.

na (NA), Monday, 14 February 2022 15:31 (two years ago) link

I dunno. If people wanted to get rid of XBH because it put too much focus on power hitters - getting rid of NSB seems counterintuitive to that idea to me.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 14 February 2022 17:51 (two years ago) link

i don't see how rando stats is good, you can't plan for rando and planning is the fun part of fantasy ball!

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Monday, 14 February 2022 19:45 (two years ago) link

Ha!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 14 February 2022 20:32 (two years ago) link

penciled-in keepers for He Ain't Javy (He's My Baez) (likely team name change to come)

Adley Rutschman (24)
Chris Paddack (26)
Sandy Alcantara (26)
Pete Alonso (27)
Lucas Giolito (27)

mostly pretty easy decisions this season. vaguely considering swapping in Andrew Vaughn for Paddack but for now this is the crew. i'm gonna need bats.

na (NA), Monday, 14 February 2022 20:42 (two years ago) link

With rando stats, if team gets the first no-hitter/cycle/etc. then scoring in that category jumps from (in the case of a 13-team league) a 13-way tie at 7 points, to a 12-way tie at 6.5 points and one team with 13 points. That's a 6.5 point swing, which isn't enough to flip the standings on its own. No manager could hope for a rando stat to completely rescue his season! If others hate then, no problem, but it would be a way to add (reintroduce) something to the league.

The stats we use now are a little *too* good, in the sense that you can plan the draft more or less by looking at WAR leaders from the previous season. But if we added singles and double plays turned it would add a different strategic element! I don't know, it could be interesting to add some speed/defense first categories while removing power categories like XBH and/or SLG.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 07:57 (two years ago) link

the stats available to us aren't the best imho:

Batters
Games Played
Games Started
At Bats
Runs
Hits
Singles
Doubles
Triples
Home Runs
Runs Batted In
Sacrifice Hits
Sacrifice Flys
Stolen Bases
Caught Stealing
Walks
Intentional Walks
Hit By Pitch
Strikeouts
Ground Into Double Play
Total Bases
Putouts
Assists
Errors
Fielding Percentage
Batting Average
On-base Percentage
Slugging Percentage
On-base + Slugging Percentage
Extra Base Hits
Net Stolen Bases
Stolen Base Percentage
Hitting for the Cycle
Plate Appearances
Grand Slam Home Runs
Outfield Assists
Double Plays Turned
Catcher Interference

Pitchers
Pitching Appearances
Games Started
Innings Pitched
Wins
Losses
Complete Games
Shutouts
Saves
Outs
Hits
Total Batters Faced
Runs
Earned Runs
Home Runs
Walks
Intentional Walks
Hit Batters
Strikeouts
Wild Pitches
Balks
Stolen Bases Allowed
Batters Grounded Into Double Plays
Save Chances
Holds
Total Bases Allowed
Earned Run Average
(Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched
Strikeouts per Walk Ratio
Strikeouts per Nine Innings
Pitch Count
Singles Allowed
Doubles Allowed
Triples Allowed
Relief Wins
Relief Losses
Pickoffs
Relief Appearances
On-base Percentage Against
Winning Percentage
Hits Per Nine Innings
Walks Per Nine Innings
No Hitters
Perfect Games
Save Percentage
Inherited Runners Scored
Quality Starts
Blown Saves
Net Saves
Saves + Holds
Net Saves and Holds
Net Wins

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 14:48 (two years ago) link

Balks!

Andy K, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 16:14 (two years ago) link

Is there even a difference between WHIP and OBP against?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link

i mean, the obp against would look far more impressive what with it being a smaller number but uhh... yeah not much of a difference eh?

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 17:55 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Good I’m not too late.

Corbin Burnesen:

Fernando Tatis Jr.
Yordan Alvarez
Corbin Burnes
Brandon Woodruff
Freddy Peralta

omar little, Saturday, 5 March 2022 20:28 (two years ago) link

Oops:

Tatis: 23
Alvarez: 24
Burnes: 27
Woodruff: 29
Peralta: 25

omar little, Saturday, 5 March 2022 20:31 (two years ago) link

MLB was kind enough to extend the deadline for us.

let's go. are we still doing the draft next weekend?

na (NA), Thursday, 10 March 2022 20:48 (two years ago) link

oh wait, the draft wasn't set for next weekend. nevermind.

na (NA), Thursday, 10 March 2022 20:52 (two years ago) link

ahhh – might want to push the draft day back since there will be a later start to the season. gonna wait to see what the official opening day is.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 10 March 2022 21:11 (two years ago) link

also, i've been getting emails about the category changes in addition to the comments here and, considering the limited stats at our disposal, i figure we have one of three options:
• replace xbh with doubles
• drop xbh along with a corresponding P category – wins most likely
• do nothing, because our league is perfect and so are you

• wild card 4th option: replace xbh with something nutty like cycles or grandy slammies

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 10 March 2022 21:25 (two years ago) link

I vote for option 2 with the proviso that QS should go instead of W, because i like position-agnostic stats (SP and RP are positions now ok?!).

id be fine with option 1 though. and ok with option 3. and i hate option 4 lol

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 10 March 2022 21:35 (two years ago) link

short version here's my ranked ballot

2(QS) > 2(W) > 1 > 3 > huffing a fart > 4

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 10 March 2022 21:37 (two years ago) link

ok – so official opening day is pushed back by about 1.5 weeks. lets set the draft for Sunday April 3rd. ahhh... 3:30pm eastern (so done by diner)?
please please PLEASE, have your selects in by the weekend before. i don't want to go on a rant here about how my life is falling apart, but april is set to be a horrible month for me – so let's get this done on time!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 10 March 2022 21:40 (two years ago) link

ah, true about RP wins. always a fun bonus.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 10 March 2022 21:41 (two years ago) link

1>2>3>4

additionally: replace XBH with doubles, destroy SLG and QS anyway, R/RBI/2B/HR/OBP/NSB

, Thursday, 10 March 2022 21:48 (two years ago) link

i don't hate it

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 10 March 2022 22:45 (two years ago) link

ANYWAY whatever you end up picking, thermo, as always if you need any help lmk i can do whatever you need!

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 10 March 2022 22:45 (two years ago) link

Gonna email you actually.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 10 March 2022 23:11 (two years ago) link

R/RBI/2B/HR/OBP/NSB

This is interesting ... very streamlined, I like it. Not a huge fan of keeping W and dropping QS (too dependent on luck). Anybody interested in a semi-exotic pitching category such as Inherited Runners Scored?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 13 March 2022 08:26 (two years ago) link

We only have one stat for relievers (sv + h) anything like that or blown saves would cause people to stop running set-up guys entirely, I think.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:04 (two years ago) link

Yes, you're right. And I really like SV + H rather than having the separate categories. I never liked having to scramble to pick up a few extra saves by keeping a watch on the revolving door of closers.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:27 (two years ago) link

guns of buxton

jose ramirez (29)
carlos correa (27)
jose berrios (27)
pablo lopez (26)

is that even right? don't believe i can hold onto my other keeper eligible guys for age requirement. would love to be wrong, though.

j.q higgins, Monday, 14 March 2022 21:03 (two years ago) link

looks right to me, you only had pablo in that bracket

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Monday, 14 March 2022 22:04 (two years ago) link

Snitker Conspiracy

Rafael Devers (25)
Franmil Reyes (26)
Brandon Lowe (27)
Jorge Polanco (28)
Noah Syndergaard (29)

Thanks!

Andy K, Monday, 14 March 2022 23:19 (two years ago) link

Walker Buehler A
Cody Bellinger A
Keston Hiura A
Hunter Renfroe B
Kevin Newman B

Keonisqaatsi but I'll do a new, and worse, name soon

The Jesus Luzardo (Jimmie Lovefoxxxxxx), Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:33 (two years ago) link

I think you're looking at the wrong spreadsheet! I linked the correct one a few posts down, here it is again -

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yncy5eLVvjxmnFcXEivwwiwagqiJc8L6kBPHtp4AC_w/edit?usp=drivesdk

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 17 March 2022 16:47 (two years ago) link

Now THAT makes more sense. Sorry everyone. More to follow later.

The Jesus Luzardo (Jimmie Lovefoxxxxxx), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:06 (two years ago) link

Sorry about linking the wrong thing guys.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link

so we have 7/13 teams so far?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 18 March 2022 14:07 (two years ago) link

itll be 7 once we hear back from jimmie l!

still waiting on the managers of

votto get no enemy (✖, youve been in the thread so i know u seein this!)
mad boone rising (vhs i think? might need to email those picks. my email is on the League -> Managers page of the fantasy league)
luv wil teheran us apart (notimebeforetime)
burn your fire for no jeffress (omar little)
holla tuivalala/last of the molinas (bnw)
billy childish gambino (albert r broccoli)
keonisqaatsi/any kestons?/wow my team sucks (jimmie)

iirc a couple of these folks are no longer rly on board so we might need to reach out. lmk if you want me to start emailin

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Friday, 18 March 2022 17:42 (two years ago) link

making a messageboard post, hopefully that'll wrangle all (most?) of the slowpokes. keeper deadline is tomorrow!!

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:01 (two years ago) link

Will - the draft isn’t until the 3rd, so we don’t need picks until the 27th. Can you correct the post in our league page?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:08 (two years ago) link

ah ok. i cant seem to edit the message so i just replied to it. (unless you meant edit somewhere else, like this thread, which i cannot do because i am v much not a mod)

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:12 (two years ago) link

Even if it was just one game, I sure did hate giving money to the Ricketts family today.

BlackIronPrison, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:14 (two years ago) link

revised for me

James Karinchak, A
Cody Bellinger, A
Walker Buehler, B
Tim Anderson, B
Devin Williams, B

The Jesus Luzardo (Jimmie Lovefoxxxxxx), Friday, 18 March 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link

Austin Riley - A
Julio Urias - A
Xander Bogaerts - B
Josh Hader - B
Will Smith - A

bnw, Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link

^^Last of the Molinas

bnw, Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:34 (two years ago) link

^^^Charlie Morton XCX

The Jesus Luzardo (Jimmie Lovefoxxxxxx), Saturday, 19 March 2022 22:07 (two years ago) link

before I post my list of keepers that actually might be the worst this league has ever seen, I just wanted to express how much I dislike player trading in our league. I just wish there was a platform we could use to throw ideas back-and-forth as the season progresses instead of having to throw a trade at someone (that you are then beholden to), or taking it to email or whatever.
ok, that's off my chest.

I like the idea of 2B > XBH,
I like SB > NSB
I don't think I'd support any defensive stats at this stage
I would like to get rid of QS because I think the "no 3rd-time through the order" mentality has diminished its relevance
big no to No-hitters or Cycles, etc.

francisF, Sunday, 20 March 2022 00:02 (two years ago) link

Longmont Potion Castellanos:

B Arozerena
B Buxton
B Glasnow (i know)

I want to express my appreciation for the spreadsheet, thank you

francisF, Sunday, 20 March 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link

isn’t that what the Trading Block is theoretically for?

na (NA), Sunday, 20 March 2022 01:22 (two years ago) link

yes, to an extent.
i just think communication between managers could be simpler. it's nbd really

francisF, Sunday, 20 March 2022 04:10 (two years ago) link

Luv Will Teheran Us Apart keepers:

Bo Bichette (24)
Dylan Cease (26)
Shohei Ohtani (batter) (27)
Jared Walsh (28)
Alex Bregman (28)

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 20 March 2022 10:04 (two years ago) link

Ya, keeping the trading block updated I think is a good way to communicate what everyone is looking for in deals - and this avoiding the really stupid, off-the-mark offers.
And people will drop in here too, to announce when they are especially looking to get a deal done, which I think works well.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 20 March 2022 14:21 (two years ago) link

And I guess I will make this official: will dump XBH and replace with 2B. Adjust your cheat sheets accordingly!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 20 March 2022 14:28 (two years ago) link

Is Xander Bogaerts keeperable for bnw? Only asking because I had traded him to Will last season who then traded him awhile later, I just want to know if the rule had changed and I missed it.

omar little, Sunday, 20 March 2022 14:40 (two years ago) link

I don’t know his age, but trading a guy a bunch doesn’t affect his keeper-ability-ness.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 20 March 2022 14:54 (two years ago) link

yeah I’m not sure why I thought that a second trade would nullify it but I may be thinking of another league

omar little, Sunday, 20 March 2022 14:56 (two years ago) link

I only trade for old men obv

omar little, Sunday, 20 March 2022 14:57 (two years ago) link

Votto No Get Enemy*

Vlad Guerrero Jr (23)
Ke'Bryan Hayes (25)
Corey Seager (27)
Joey Gallo (28)
Bryce Harper (29)

*was gonna change this but tbh i'm awful at puns and unreasonably proud of this one

, Sunday, 27 March 2022 17:35 (two years ago) link

so i guess we're just missing VHS's (Mad Boone Rising) selects. once i have them, i can enter everyone's picks/draft order etc.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 28 March 2022 13:39 (two years ago) link

so it looks like VHS totally tuned out half way into the last season. does anyone know him irl? should i assume he's lost interest?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 28 March 2022 21:47 (two years ago) link

Ok. Mr Van Horn emailed me and is unable to join us this year.
Keepers of note:
Luis Robert
Acuna Jr!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 28 March 2022 23:17 (two years ago) link

oh wow! pitching ohtani too if i remember correctly?

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 15:06 (two years ago) link

*checks notes* – this is correct. also: Sixto Sánchez.
and with this infusion of young talent into the draft, I am very fucked by the draft order (to be revealed soon)

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 15:30 (two years ago) link

is it random order this year or based on reversing last year's ranks?

na (NA), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 15:37 (two years ago) link

guess i should start thinking about this draft

na (NA), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 15:37 (two years ago) link

same as last couple years - weighted random.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 16:00 (two years ago) link

i'm entering picks now – and I don't know why, but i thought Joe Musgrove was like a million years old... he's 29?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 00:28 (two years ago) link

also just realized Omar is keeping the entire Milwaukee Brewers rotation!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 00:41 (two years ago) link

Ok freaks and geeks, selects are in. please to be double checking my groggy work on the draft results page here

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 00:57 (two years ago) link

so.... i'm going to assume everyone's good with the picks i entered? no one at all bothered by the number of Albert Pujols' on their team?

Once again I am scrambling to just do-not-draft a bunch of guys before a disastrous auto-draft.

Andy K, Sunday, 3 April 2022 17:01 (two years ago) link

i am probably going to begin our draft while finishing my other one and fully expect to make some rushed, bone-headed calls out of the gate!

Conversely, I will be fully present and focused for the entire draft and will have nothing to blame but my own foolishness at the end

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Sunday, 3 April 2022 18:00 (two years ago) link

good draft everybody!

link to the google sheet where you can see who is keeper eligible for 2023, because it's never too early to give up on this year and look to the future, right? i'll keep the drops updated as often as possible.

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Sunday, 3 April 2022 21:28 (two years ago) link

Corbin Burnesen:

C - Perez
1B - Belt/Y Gurriel
2B - Cronenworth/Lux
3B - Turner/Dalbec
SS - Tatis Jr/Swanson
OF - Stanton/Alvarez/Schwarber/Ozuna
SP - Cole/Burnes/Woodruff/Peralta/Anderson/DeSclafani/Gray
RP - Hendriks/Jansen

omar little, Sunday, 3 April 2022 21:30 (two years ago) link

I have so much multi-position eligibility on my team that figuring out how to write this was a struggle, but...

WanderVision

C.. Carson Kelly
1B. Kris Bryant (1B, 3B, OF)
2B. Max Muncy (1B, 2B)
3B. Wander Franco (3B, SS)
SS. Trea Turner (2B, SS)
OF. Ronald Acuna
OF. Mookie Betts (2B, OF)
OF. Eloy Jimenez
UT. Josh Bell (1B, OF)

B1. Austin Meadows (OF)
B2. Trent Grisham (OF)
B3. Brendan Rodgers (2B, SS)
B4. Alex Kirilloff (1B, OF)

S1. Shane Bieber
S2. Aaron Nola
S3. Yu Darvish
S4. Michael Kopech
S5. Hyun Jin Ryu
S6. Chris Sale
S7. Mike Clevinger

R1. Ryan Pressly
R2. Edwin Diaz

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Sunday, 3 April 2022 21:42 (two years ago) link

Bell was OF eligible?!
Your team has the kind of positional flexibility I dream about at night.

Are We The Baddoos?:
C: Yasmani Grandal
1B: Joey Votto
2B: Ozzie Albeis (k)
SS: Francisco Lindor (k)
3B: Manny Machado
OF: Bryan Reynolds
OF: Jesse Winker
OF: Jarred Kelenic (k)

Bench
2B, SS, 3B, OF: Chris Taylor
SS: Brandon Crawford
C: Alejandro Kirk
OF: Riley Greene

SP1: Max Fried
SP2: Jack Flaherty (k)
SP3: Alek Manoah
SP4: Shane McClanahan
SP5: Jose Urquidy
SP6: Adam Wainwright

RP1: Paul Sewald
RP2: Diego Castillo
RP3: Anthony Bender

I may have overdone it with targeting high OBP guys.
I def reached for Manoah and Greene (I was lucky McClanahan fell as far as he did), and Reynolds + Winker are solid over-27 options. Liking my keeper option in a season I figure I’d have to retool (wanted to hedge my bets with Lindor, Kelenic and Flaherty)

xp i was surprised too re: bell!

i didn't even aim for this positional eligibility, just kinda ended up where people fell to me. by the end i was legitimately confused as to what positions i needed to draft backups for. i'm still not sure!

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Sunday, 3 April 2022 22:57 (two years ago) link

https://i.ibb.co/mC264LM/lpnc.jpg
LONGMONT POTION CASTELLANOS

C Keibert RUIZ
1B Rhys HOSKINS
2B Jose ALTUVE
3B Josh DONALDSON
SS Marcus SEMIEN
OF Mike TROUT
OF Byron BUXTON
OF Randy AROZARENA
OF Charlie BLACKMON
MI Javier BAEZ
CI/OF Patrick WISDOM

SP Kevin GAUSMAN
SP Tyler GLASNOW
SP Trevor BAUER
SP Chris BASSITT
SP Alex WOOD
SP Aaron CIVALE
SP Tanner HOUCK
RP Raisel IGLESIAS
RP Jordan ROMANO

francisF, Sunday, 3 April 2022 23:01 (two years ago) link

Omg that graphic

amazing graphic

na (NA), Monday, 4 April 2022 14:25 (two years ago) link

Giolito Shuffle

C: Mike Zunino / Adley Rutschman when they call him up
1B: Pete Alonso
2B: Tommy Edman
3B: Nolan Arenado / Matt Chapman
SS: Willy Adames
OF: Luis Robert
OF: Teoscar Hernandez
OF: Tyler O'Neill
OF: Seiya Suzuki
1B/2B/OF bench guy: Brad Miller

SP: Lucas Giolito
SP: Sandy Alcantara
SP: Chris Paddack
SP: German Marquez
SP: Kris Bubic
SP: Luis Castillo
SP: Tarik Skubal
RP: Emmanual Clase
RP: Genesis Cabrera
RP: Camilo Doval

i generally feel alright about my hitters. my rotation is mostly high-risk, high-reward guys so i could get lucky or i could get fucked.

na (NA), Monday, 4 April 2022 14:31 (two years ago) link

oh and i've got Myles Straw OF coming in on waivers too to try and get some SBs, though i don't know how often i'll be playing him

na (NA), Monday, 4 April 2022 14:32 (two years ago) link

i think i'm going to roll with a lineup of:

C - Salvador Perez
1B - Brandon Belt
2B - Jake Cronenworth
3B - Justin Turner
SS - Dansby Swanson
OF - Giancarlo Stanton
OF - Yordan Alvarez
OF - Kyle Schwarber
UT - Yuli Gurriel
BN - Gavin Lux
BN - Bobby Dalbec
BN - Marcell Ozuna
IL :( - Fernando Tatis Jr

SP - Gerrit Cole
SP - Corbin Burnes
SP - Brandon Woodruff
SP - Freddy Peralta
SP - Ian Anderson
SP - Anthony DeSclafani
SP - Jon Gray

RP - Liam Hendriks
RP - Kenley Jansen

My team speed is really lousy, i kind of dropped the ball there. Lots of base cloggers. The most NSB from last season with Tatis on the shelf: 6 from Swanson, followed by 3 from Turner.

omar little, Monday, 4 April 2022 16:36 (two years ago) link

C: M. Garver/G. Sanchez
1B: L. Voit/C.J. Cron
2B: W. Merrifield/J. India
3B: Y. Moncada/E. Suarez
SS: T. Anderson/E. Suarez
OF: S. Marte, C. Mullins, C. Bellinger, L. Gurriel, H. Renfroe
SP: S. Ohtani, F. Valdez, W. Buehler, S. Gray
RP: D. Williams, S. Barlow, D. Bednar, J. Karinchak

The Jesus Luzardo (Jimmie Lovefoxxxxxx), Monday, 4 April 2022 17:39 (two years ago) link

c daulton varsho
1b spencer torkelson/ryan mountcastle
2b jazz chisholm
3b jose ramirez/bobby witt
ss carlos correa/bobby witt/jazz chisholm
of jo adell, adolis garcia, andrew benintendi, ryan mountcastle, akil baddoo

sp carlos rodon, jose berrios, eduardo rodriguez, stepehn strasburg, ranger suarez, pablo lopez, jesus luzardo, mackenzie gore, triston mckenzie
rp greg soto, andrew kittredge

kind of a mess.

j.q higgins, Monday, 4 April 2022 18:32 (two years ago) link

LuvWillTeheranUsApart '22

C Wilson Contreras
1B Jose Abreu
2B Eduardo Escobar
SS Bo Bichette (K)
3B Alex Bregman (K)
OF Christian Yelich, Kike Hernandez, Jared Walsh (K)
Util: Shohei Ohtani (K)
bench: Steven Kwan, Will Myers, Dustin Harris (NA)

SP: Logan Webb, Robbie Ray, Luis Severino, Shane Baz, Marcus Stroman, Dylan Cease (K)
RP: Craig Kimbrel, Will Smith, Jake McGee, Garrett Whitlock

A lot of question marks. If Yelich and Severino bounce back, while Ray, Ohtani, and Abreu continue to be good then it's a good team. I feel the collapse potential is high though (Abreu will be 35, Kimbrel is Kimbrel, Ray has been inconsistent for most of his career, and so on).

No speed on my team, as usual. My bench is weak and not very deep, I drafted four relievers and I'm not really sure why.

Corbin Burnsen's offense looks terrifying, if Perez and Belt carry over their success from last year and Tatis and Stanton get/stay healthy.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 09:03 (two years ago) link

it's his starting pitching that i find more intimidating.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 13:21 (two years ago) link

yeah when freddy peralta is your fourth (!) best pitcher, your pitching scares me!

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 16:03 (two years ago) link

Accidentally sat my only Cub, which can only mean --- let the season commence!

francisF, Thursday, 7 April 2022 18:33 (two years ago) link

i was 15 minutes away from somehow sitting my ace even though i expressly remember starting him* so i'm right there with you!

*to be very clear i am sure it's my fault and not yahoo's, I JUST REMEMBER DOING IT

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 7 April 2022 22:32 (two years ago) link

I downloaded the sportsnet app, which has great reminder/update notifications for individual players.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 7 April 2022 22:47 (two years ago) link

Whoops. Apparently the app is called “the score”

it's his starting pitching that i find more intimidating.

― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 16:21 (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah when freddy peralta is your fourth (!) best pitcher, your pitching scares me!

― Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 19:03 (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Corbin Burnsen team ERA: 9.62

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 11 April 2022 09:25 (two years ago) link

From the baseball I’ve watched over the last three days, that still feels pretty good.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 11 April 2022 12:13 (two years ago) link

yeah I only have one quality start so far and I almost sat the starter for that game because it was against the Dodgers.

na (NA), Monday, 11 April 2022 12:55 (two years ago) link

Corbin Burnsen team ERA: 9.62

― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, April 11, 2022 5:25 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

and my batting's ops/slg is .272/.284, somehow. week 1 is always weird. (that or i have made roughly 10 huge mistakes)

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Monday, 11 April 2022 16:09 (two years ago) link

I had a good run there between draft day and opening day.

omar little, Monday, 11 April 2022 16:35 (two years ago) link

(that or i have made roughly 10 huge mistakes)

this is usually my strategy

xpost lol

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 11 April 2022 16:35 (two years ago) link

yes.

j.q higgins, Monday, 11 April 2022 18:24 (two years ago) link

getting some writing done

https://i.imgur.com/zqxA5GN.png

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 14 April 2022 15:24 (two years ago) link

i drafted 3 guys who were on the IR when i drafted them

two weeks later, when i have 5 guys on the IR: (insert surprised pikachu)

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 18:46 (two years ago) link

Not to get too judgy about such things, but three is a lot of hurt dudes to draft. (Unless they were all keepers)

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 22:12 (two years ago) link

they weren't! i just didn't stick to the script! (and one of them was acuna, so... not a lot of choice there)

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 21 April 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

You have my blessing on Acuna

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 April 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

Important news: Put ze Candelario Back! has finally put ze Candelario back.

The Jesus Luzardo (Jimmie Lovefoxxxxxx), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

was surprised to see Graveman was floating out there!

The Jarred Kelenic experiment is probably over for the Baddoos. My 9th place team just can’t manage room for him on the bench. If anyone has more faith than I do, feel free to offer literally anything.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

I’d been looking at Arraez. Mostly because in my last OOTP sim he became a Boggs-like god

i had him on a team in the past couple of seasons, he's a solid OBP contributor for sure

na (NA), Monday, 23 May 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

i was going to snag him this am. oh, well!

j.q higgins, Monday, 23 May 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

i'm excited that holding on to adley rutschman for 1.25 seasons while waiting for the orioles to call him up will finally pay off by getting me the 40 points i need to jump from second place to first place

na (NA), Monday, 23 May 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

i have faith, friend-o.

j.q higgins, Monday, 23 May 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link

penciled-in keepers for He Ain't Javy (He's My Baez) (likely team name change to come)

Adley Rutschman (24)
Chris Paddack (26)
Sandy Alcantara (26)
Pete Alonso (27)
Lucas Giolito (27)

mostly pretty easy decisions this season. vaguely considering swapping in Andrew Vaughn for Paddack but for now this is the crew. i'm gonna need bats.

― na (NA), Monday, February 14, 2022 2:42 PM (three months ago) bookmarkflaglink

well i made the wrong decision there (by keeping chris paddack instead of andrew vaughn). i think i dropped paddack even before he got tommy john, while vaughn is looking like a solid hitter who will probably continue to improve. vaughn is available but having him as keeper-eligible would have been the real value.

na (NA), Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

i always liked his plate discipline. not as much power as you'd hope from a 1b tho, so the OF eligibility helps some. obv at this point tho, anyone under the age of 26 is going to be looking better than Paddack.

had vaughn for a while, dropped him because he just wasn't providing enough upside in any specific category. but he might go wild at any moment.

my biggest regret, and i've had a few, was trading one year of aaron judge for two years of joey gallo. lol.

, Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link

my second biggest regret was drafting 4 players who i knew were going to be IL/NA for a long time and praying no one else would get hurt. lol.

, Thursday, 2 June 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

entertaining offers for berrios and ramirez, i guess

j.q higgins, Sunday, 5 June 2022 01:21 (one year ago) link

i've got willy adames and seiya suzuki coming off the IL in the next week, but i don't really need either of them in my lineup right now. they're both keeper-eligible. i'm open to trades, primarily for reliable sources of SV/Hs.

na (NA), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

i should never have dropped Kirk. holy shit.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 11 June 2022 05:35 (one year ago) link

Everyone except omar little keep reading. Omar stop reading here

...
...
...

Fellas how are we gonna sabotage omar little

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Saturday, 11 June 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

seems kinda rude to go out of our way to sabotage the 6th place team but i'm always down for a plot

, Saturday, 11 June 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

Wait did I pick the wrong person

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Saturday, 11 June 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

Yes I did. Ignore previous post how do we sabotage... Whoever is in first I forget who is who

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Saturday, 11 June 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

he’s more of a lurker these day. But also running away with it this year!!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 11 June 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

spent a good chunk of the season in 2nd and I'm hesitant to make any trades because I'm not sure it's surmountable

, Saturday, 11 June 2022 21:12 (one year ago) link

more i think about it the more i wish i pushed for hitter strikeouts to be a category. i can't believe i argued for making the categories nicer to non-power hitters and completely forgot that was an option. strikeouts impact two pitching categories, may as well judge hitters against them too!

for next year i propose replacing something or other with Ks

, Thursday, 16 June 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

my starting pitching rotation, which had been pretty reliable for the first couple of months of the season, seems to be all shitting the bed at the same time

na (NA), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

see if you can guess which two starting pitchers i had in the two day games today lol

na (NA), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

Was Giolito one?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 23 June 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link

once jacob degrom, max scherzer, bryce harper, aroldis chapman, ty france, nathan eolvaldi, grayson rodriguez and andrew heaney come off the IL i'm gunning for that top spot

, Sunday, 26 June 2022 04:43 (one year ago) link

My god. Taylor out with an injury now… I think this might be one of the worst drafts I have ever had.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link

keeper list updated through july 5th, if anyone's interested -- all drops and trades (well, trade) accounted for

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

important note for teams that i have a trade offer out to: the trade deadline is in like 3 hours

, Thursday, 11 August 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link

Oh. I totally forgot it was upon us!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 11 August 2022 01:19 (one year ago) link

Daring trade going on there, I love it.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

wow! Giolitto trying to shuffle into first with a 20 point swing through pitching!
this is the good stuff i don't get to see in other leagues

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

yolo

na (NA), Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link

That trade might work out for *everyone*.

I considered some fun proposals but don’t know even with the players that were offered if it would make a difference. I sent another proposal to someone earlier today but then realized it would leave me shy one keeper so I decided to pull it.

omar little, Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

was assuming the deadline would be 12AM PST like normal, looks like it's going a little bit longer

thank you both for entertaining my many desperate offers for players you understandably wouldn't want to give up

, Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Well it was certainly a close one but congrats to Billy Childish Bambino for winning the chip — what Verlander and Judge did this year to the rest of fantasy was obv absolutely disgusting.

omar little, Thursday, 6 October 2022 02:43 (one year ago) link

Have them both on my other team!

Congrats to BCB, aka gygax (tho you probably won’t see this)! Schooled everyone this year! I think, second victory??

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 6 October 2022 03:19 (one year ago) link

congrats to BCB on the dominant win! at the least the competition for 2/3/4 was interesting. my big trade didn't really pay off but no regrets.

na (NA), Thursday, 6 October 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

Congratulations BCB, you led nearly wire to wire with by far the best team and it really wasn't close.

My team kind of muddled around all year -- a bunch of good but not great seasons, never managed to cobble together a decent outfield or bullpen. My keepers for next year should still be good so hopefully I can bounce back.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 6 October 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

late congrats to the dominant BCB squad. maybe we should do a weekly setup next year to avoid that kind of runaway? just a thought

bnw, Thursday, 13 October 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link


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