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you liked ron paul, you called women bitches, you got drunk and were mean, you are the only person i've ever dated who never wrote me a single letter or made me a cd or made me anything, you acted ambivalent, you contradicted yourself, you talked down to me, you said anything if you thought it was what i wanted you to say, when i told you not to tell me to shut up you said i needed to acknowledge that i was making you go out of your way, you ruined my birthday.

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:38 (fifteen years ago) link

clearly dude had personal issues rox

Storm the Studio Line from Loreal (PappaWheelie V), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:39 (fifteen years ago) link

rox dodging bullets

From North to Ibiza (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:39 (fifteen years ago) link

dodge this, douchebag

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean...

you talked down to me
you talked down to me
you talked down to me
you talked down to me

That is not reflective of you.

Storm the Studio Line from Loreal (PappaWheelie V), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:41 (fifteen years ago) link

well, this guy is what happens when an ex-neocon/southern baptist minister goes to school and studies philosophy

what the hell else is he going to do

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link

good thing you're out.

Storm the Studio Line from Loreal (PappaWheelie V), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:44 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks

(all this aside^^^, this is tough. i've hung out with this guy almost every day for a year. :( it's a tough, tough transition. the stuff in this thread is what i need to remind myself of, cause it's not what's on my mind right now, really)

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:46 (fifteen years ago) link

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1410/641350866_417d21b2c7.jpg?v=0

penice (velko), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:46 (fifteen years ago) link

when i told you i was feeling depressed and wanted to start going to therapy you said "oh god, im so glad youre not pregnant. i thought something was really wrong"

lol

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:48 (fifteen years ago) link

stay strong, rox!!!!

very quotatious (tehresa), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:48 (fifteen years ago) link

it was news to you that "women are sluts if they sleep around but men are to be celebrated for it" is a fucked up idea

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:49 (fifteen years ago) link

(thanking u tza)

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:49 (fifteen years ago) link

you hate opeth

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:49 (fifteen years ago) link

you would never come to my house! why

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:50 (fifteen years ago) link

wait, didn't you live with some weird dude who just disappeared one day???

penice (velko), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:52 (fifteen years ago) link

haha, my old roommate. he came back. i meant my other house!

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:52 (fifteen years ago) link

you made many hilarious jokes about how you were manipulating me

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:54 (fifteen years ago) link

your pants are too short

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:54 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought that was cute though, tbh

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:54 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^does not belong on this thread, lol

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:55 (fifteen years ago) link

kia kaha, roxy, you are a grand girl imo.

estela, Friday, 12 December 2008 06:55 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks estela!

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:56 (fifteen years ago) link

when you did something fucked up and hurtful to me and i called you out on it your response was essentially "i am sorry you're crazy"

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 06:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i was incredibly poor on your birthday and i busted my ass to get us underworld tickets which is what you said you wanted (and you invited your friends to come with us, <3 them but srsly dude), i made you a cd of underworld joints, and i bought you a present on top of that and wrapped it in a picture of gaahl from gorgoroth with a speech bubble reading "for you, matt" and a thought bubble with a cartoon cow inside

why did you complain that your birthday sucked, i really did my best

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i am going ot punch this dude

very quotatious (tehresa), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:00 (fifteen years ago) link

this guy seems like a true asshole

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:01 (fifteen years ago) link

u did right to get out rox

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:01 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, that makes it sound like i paid for his friends too, i didn't. they got tickets when he invited them. i guess i just wanted it to be just us :(

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:03 (fifteen years ago) link

you never really took to my cats!!!!

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:08 (fifteen years ago) link

you would always loan me the worst of your shirts when i needed one, like shirts that were XXL and had a restaurants name on them

this is why i stole your enslaved shirt that you bought on our first date and i am not returning it, maybe

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:09 (fifteen years ago) link

you have some seriously dumb male friends, but i guess you only consider women airheads or idiots so its not a thing

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:10 (fifteen years ago) link

^this is a little disingenuous actually

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:11 (fifteen years ago) link

ah fuck it

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:11 (fifteen years ago) link

you would never get up and turn off the light!!!

at my house, i would turn off the light.

why would you never TURN OFF THE LIGHT!!!

RUDE

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:12 (fifteen years ago) link

making a face like you have a bomb to drop and then when questioned abuot it "we have talked about enough serious things today" and go write a secret blog entry or something about it. yes, you are the admin of the relationship and you have successfully /banned me, thankig u

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:13 (fifteen years ago) link

feeling better, thanks all

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:14 (fifteen years ago) link

why was i feeling bad for dumping ^^^this man?

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:14 (fifteen years ago) link

hugz

very quotatious (tehresa), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:16 (fifteen years ago) link

lou has the right attitude about this kinda thing

penice (velko), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link

(cant see youtube at work, is that sebadoh?!!?!?)

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:18 (fifteen years ago) link

you act like michael amott is a second class citizen!

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:18 (fifteen years ago) link

you never made me coffee even once <<<<<<<<<WTF

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:19 (fifteen years ago) link

when i was puking my guts out you jauntily strolled into the bathroom eating a bowl of cereal

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:20 (fifteen years ago) link

ok that was pretty hilarious actually

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:20 (fifteen years ago) link

you watched family guy, but to be fair you were pretty noncommittal about it

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:21 (fifteen years ago) link

you thought i was having an affair with (lol) CORNY PROG FUCK

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:22 (fifteen years ago) link

ever since i came back from new york you acted like you could give a fuck if i lived or died, why

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:23 (fifteen years ago) link

every time i did a project of any type with other people you complimented the other people's contribs and not mine, not even in private

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:24 (fifteen years ago) link

better to be a passionate fan of bullshit than a vacant dead eyed zombie watching whatever bullshit show happens to be on the air! i know plenty of dudes who would kill to be in this ignoramus' shoes. i mean, not now, but before when he was not living in dumptown

omar little, Friday, 12 December 2008 07:25 (fifteen years ago) link

the anniversary of our first date, not that i expect you to remember this shit, but you texted me "hope to see you soon"

what the fuck is hope to see you soon

that is fucked up dude

xpost thanks omar

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:25 (fifteen years ago) link

this is dork shit, but i made you a really awesome cd of african tribal chants and shit and you let it gather dust before i forced you to give it a listen then youre like "this is pretty magical!" wow, maybe you could have been interested to hear it at any point

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:29 (fifteen years ago) link

you're too good for this guy. if i ever get to knox i'll give him the ol what for (with my fist).

omar little, Friday, 12 December 2008 07:30 (fifteen years ago) link

haw

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:33 (fifteen years ago) link

"how fast could i KO this chickenshit hillbilly?"

penice (velko), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:34 (fifteen years ago) link

haha

i don't wish him ill, yall, im just trying not to focus on the good times here

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:36 (fifteen years ago) link

you made fun of the fact that i said "luda" and "lol" as if this made me a mouthbreathing illiterate or something and then appropriated them for yourself like a week later

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:37 (fifteen years ago) link

youd do the "taking a younger guy under your wing" routine and try to brainwash him into being a fratty asshole

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:42 (fifteen years ago) link

try to remember you were dating the next "mystery"

omar little, Friday, 12 December 2008 07:54 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i34.tinypic.com/2mdpafk.jpg

omar little, Friday, 12 December 2008 07:57 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 07:57 (fifteen years ago) link

i am going ot punch this dude

― very quotatious (tehresa), Friday, December 12, 2008 2:00 AM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

agreed punchable completely this guy

ice cr?m, Friday, 12 December 2008 07:59 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah not so good. tough, but you're in the right.

Matt P, Friday, 12 December 2008 08:01 (fifteen years ago) link

he sounds like a total douche bag btw and deserves a lot more thank a breakup

Matt P, Friday, 12 December 2008 08:01 (fifteen years ago) link

man this dude was a prick!

Om mani padmetino (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:05 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i36.tinypic.com/2i9gfmq.jpg

this is prob him he sounds this bad^

ice cr?m, Friday, 12 December 2008 08:08 (fifteen years ago) link

cant see that at work for some reason, but ill accept it

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:08 (fifteen years ago) link

its a story abt a russain entrepreneur trademarking this emoticon :-)

u cant tm that only a jerk would try srsly

ice cr?m, Friday, 12 December 2008 08:10 (fifteen years ago) link

agreed punchable completely this guy
/zoidberg voice

TOMBOT, Friday, 12 December 2008 08:14 (fifteen years ago) link

ARGH ARGH ARGH this guys sounds like such a horrible dickwart! Roxy I am so sorry you are in pain because you rock harder than a truckload of fucking pigs, and there really isn't anything I can do except get out my megaphone and shout DUDE WAS A SINNER, U R THE WINNER like I'm on the pavement at Oxford Circus.

You are such an amazing person, and if dude can't see it, it's HIS FAULT not yours.

Go out, play a show, get drunk, pull some fantastic groupie ass and forget all about him.

carrotcake.wav (Masonic Boom), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:24 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^otm

Matt P, Friday, 12 December 2008 08:26 (fifteen years ago) link

haha, thanks kate

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:32 (fifteen years ago) link

this helps me get over EVERYthing:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/pk27si

Matt P, Friday, 12 December 2008 08:43 (fifteen years ago) link

oh shi

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:46 (fifteen years ago) link

you acted like i was being a baby when you dropped me on my BACK on those metal weights on your floor you DICK

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 10:51 (fifteen years ago) link

rox start a character of this dude in the sims and never let him go to the bathroom or eat

beyonc'e (max), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link

btw sounds like a true shitheel glad youre not wasting another minute of your time

beyonc'e (max), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link

dodge this, douchebag

― rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, December 12, 2008 5:41 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

rox! I meant you dodged a bullet by dumping this bloke. Srsly he sounds like that Dennis douche Liz Lemon went out with.

From North to Ibiza (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:51 (fifteen years ago) link

hes not like that, this thread is v v one sided. but i mean, everything here IS true.

misinterpreted u, aa. sorry u_u

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:56 (fifteen years ago) link

hey roxy, as a kind of code of honor thing, i give a 50% discount when clients pay me to kill people who deserve it. webmail me and we can get something booked.

Millennium Ducats (Roberto Spiralli), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:57 (fifteen years ago) link

rox start a character of this dude in the sims and never let him go to the bathroom or eat

― beyonc'e (max), Friday, December 12, 2008 11:44 AM (13 minutes ago)

rong, give him food but don't give him a toilet

Take You Down (I know, right?), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:58 (fifteen years ago) link

xp <3

From North to Ibiza (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:58 (fifteen years ago) link

there is no way im killing his sim, he makes loads of $$$$ as a stuntman

id thank him to move out of the mansion though

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:59 (fifteen years ago) link

sad thread. sorry rox.

Mr. Que, Friday, 12 December 2008 12:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i'll be alright

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 12:14 (fifteen years ago) link

at my best friend's bday party you said "wow you didnt buy a present for your BEST FRIEND" to me while only he was standing there, good job

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 12:16 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry roxy.

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Friday, 12 December 2008 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link

he sounds dumb

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Friday, 12 December 2008 12:48 (fifteen years ago) link

:)

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 12:48 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah gah he sounds like a first class douchebag

harbl, Friday, 12 December 2008 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Goodluck Emileez.
It sounds like you're going to be better off. If youze want to chat, drop me an e-mail.

ian, Saturday, 13 December 2008 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks, ian, that's nice!

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 13 December 2008 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I know all about breakups!

ian, Saturday, 13 December 2008 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link

imho the best way to get over a breakup is to focus all of your energy into hating the other person. it doesn't seem like it will be a problem to hate this guy?

ian, Saturday, 13 December 2008 02:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't hate him, though. I don't really want to!

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 13 December 2008 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link

This dude sounds totes like one of my wife's BFs like 15 years ago who actually wound up clocking her when his patience ran thin. Good riddance, rox.

TEENAGE DIALECTICS (libcrypt), Saturday, 13 December 2008 03:30 (fifteen years ago) link

show of honest hands, what guy reading this hasn't seen maybe one of these and thought, "uh-oh".

өөө (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 13 December 2008 03:39 (fifteen years ago) link

you would never come to my house!

didn't like your cat.

өөө (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 13 December 2008 03:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't get me wrong, dude's a douche and you're better off.

өөө (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 13 December 2008 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link

What do you mean, "uh-oh"?

TEENAGE DIALECTICS (libcrypt), Saturday, 13 December 2008 03:46 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah ok a guy doing maybe one of these is not a big deal

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 13 December 2008 03:55 (fifteen years ago) link

some are fucked up no matter what, but like, not ever turning off the light? could deal with if guy did none of this other shit

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 13 December 2008 03:56 (fifteen years ago) link

There are an awful lot of one-line kills in yr list, rox.

TEENAGE DIALECTICS (libcrypt), Saturday, 13 December 2008 03:58 (fifteen years ago) link

when i told you not to tell me to shut up you said i needed to acknowledge that i was making you go out of your way

Straight-up-WTF ^^^.

TEENAGE DIALECTICS (libcrypt), Saturday, 13 December 2008 03:59 (fifteen years ago) link

the never making you coffee is what gets me

Mr. Que, Saturday, 13 December 2008 03:59 (fifteen years ago) link

you acted like i was being a baby when you dropped me on my BACK on those metal weights on your floor you DICK

Relationship DEATH sentence there ^^^.

TEENAGE DIALECTICS (libcrypt), Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Dude must have had a 12 inch dick or something.

TEENAGE DIALECTICS (libcrypt), Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:01 (fifteen years ago) link

...in his brain.

TEENAGE DIALECTICS (libcrypt), Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess my natural reaction is to place myself in this guy's shoes and think about what I would've done based on past experiences, and it makes me think about shit like "always wanted to stay at my place" that I hadn't even thought about in a hundred years.

There's a thread I could start. Asshole moves you pulled that resulted in a break-up. But I prefer my method of just blacking out those memories and pretending they never happened.

өөө (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I have never made sunny coffee.

өөө (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Has she asked for it?

TEENAGE DIALECTICS (libcrypt), Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:02 (fifteen years ago) link

dude you gotta try it, it's great.

Mr. Que, Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i hope you have a 12" dick then xopst

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Women aren't black boxes, in general, PP.

TEENAGE DIALECTICS (libcrypt), Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link

What's wrong with just trying to be likable to yr partner huh?

TEENAGE DIALECTICS (libcrypt), Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link

But I prefer my method of just blacking out those memories and pretending they never happened.

yep

Minister for Compression Issues (electricsound), Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:06 (fifteen years ago) link

fuck this guy forrealz. sorry roxy

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:09 (fifteen years ago) link

"I smell coffee. does beeps need to be changed?" - sunny successor, any given saturday.

өөө (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 13 December 2008 05:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Dude it must totally rule to have a kid who shits coffee.

TEENAGE DIALECTICS (libcrypt), Saturday, 13 December 2008 05:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Is that like the coffee beans regurgitated by hamsters?

snoball, Saturday, 13 December 2008 11:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm sorry about this, Roxy, the dude does really sound like a pig, and you deserve something better. Still, it usually takes some time getting used to someone not being around, even if that someone was bad for you. So try to hang on, drink some booze and party, maybe have some rebound sex too (if that helps). And listen to Grace Jones telling the truth about guys like these:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/52681724e6d726f7/

Tuomas, Saturday, 13 December 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

here you go Roxy, one of the coolest songs ever made
Junior Boys - Birthday (hopefully you haven't heard it before)

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 13 December 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

get pissed and let it all out

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 13 December 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks, both of ya'll.

<3!

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 13 December 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

you didn't complain per se when i put on dauði baldrs to sleep to, but you made it clear that it was a nuisance to you

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 14 December 2008 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

you were such an ass that time andy met us at urban bar

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 14 December 2008 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

you never wrote me a letter, as stated above, but yeah you never wrote me a letter even after i wrote YOU one

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 14 December 2008 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't think i've ever written a girl a letter ("uh oh")

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Sunday, 14 December 2008 00:47 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe that's just your style. i got the impression it actually was this guy's style, but just not in this relationship where he exercised a strict "no care evar" policy

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 14 December 2008 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link

jordan i bet you have made a girl a mixtape or cd, havent you

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 14 December 2008 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link

well yeah, duh

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Sunday, 14 December 2008 01:23 (fifteen years ago) link

but just not in this relationship where he exercised a strict "no care evar" policy

that is a controversial relationship policy

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Sunday, 14 December 2008 01:23 (fifteen years ago) link

well making something was included in the comment! xpost

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 14 December 2008 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I hate that this person has made you unhappy, Roxy.

Pashmina, Sunday, 14 December 2008 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link

first 5 months = !!!!<3<3<3<3<3
middle 2 = :|
last 5 = :(:(:(:(:(:(

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 14 December 2008 01:27 (fifteen years ago) link

u want me to punch this guy

what is my attitude (gbx), Sunday, 14 December 2008 01:31 (fifteen years ago) link

halp

very very serious (gabbneb), Sunday, 14 December 2008 04:30 (fifteen years ago) link

is that an offer or a request?

very quotatious (tehresa), Sunday, 14 December 2008 04:33 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 14 December 2008 04:40 (fifteen years ago) link

hey roxy i just emailed you, i hope i have the right address!

it's always funny until someone gets hurt and then it's just hilariou (Rubyredd), Sunday, 14 December 2008 05:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Replied! <3

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 14 December 2008 05:55 (fifteen years ago) link

forever must associate this guy with underworld (was actually worried about this WHEN we went to see them), enslaved, the clash and carcass, probably my four favorite bands.

shit!!!!!!!!!!!

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 14 December 2008 07:04 (fifteen years ago) link

this sucks roxy. there's really nothing for it, it just sucks. it gets better tho! and considering what i've read, it sounds like the right thing long term.

living under no care evar policy is really bad for you

kuntrie/hardrock-tributes (goole), Sunday, 14 December 2008 07:11 (fifteen years ago) link

you didn't complain per se when i put on dauði baldrs to sleep to, but you made it clear that it was a nuisance to you

― rox qua rox (roxymuzak)

um to be fair, people like me can't sleep with any music on. insomnia for the win.

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Sunday, 14 December 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

ok he sleeps with napalm death on so no

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 14 December 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

forever must associate this guy with underworld (was actually worried about this WHEN we went to see them), enslaved, the clash and carcass, probably my four favorite bands.

nooooooooooooo:-(

You go, Squirrel TM (latebloomer), Monday, 15 December 2008 07:07 (fifteen years ago) link

definitely. cause we went to see these together (minus clash -- other reasons for that one though) and the underworld thing was a BIG BIG DEAL

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Monday, 15 December 2008 07:08 (fifteen years ago) link

you never really took to my cats!!!!

how could someone not take to them, they're adorable!

You go, Squirrel TM (latebloomer), Monday, 15 December 2008 07:12 (fifteen years ago) link

funny you should bring them up

my roommate ah i cant even bear to type this out

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Monday, 15 December 2008 07:14 (fifteen years ago) link

my roommate called me just now and said pagoda must have jumped into his trunk today at some point (????? how do you not notice this) cause when he got to the recycling center (far from our house) pagoda jumped out of his trunk and ran into the woods

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Monday, 15 December 2008 07:15 (fifteen years ago) link

oh no!!!!!!

very quotatious (tehresa), Monday, 15 December 2008 07:16 (fifteen years ago) link

ugh wtf wtf wtf wtf

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Monday, 15 December 2008 07:21 (fifteen years ago) link

nooo!!! that is terrible...did he look for pagoda?

You go, Squirrel TM (latebloomer), Monday, 15 December 2008 07:47 (fifteen years ago) link

well he just texted me and luckily i live with the most outdoorsy of outdoorsman and he said he dashed home BUILT A TRAP and set it up there with canned cat food and treats and stuff

i really hope he comes to him or gets trapped, lol

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Monday, 15 December 2008 07:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i really just dont even have room to be upset about that right now, i just have to keep pushing it down

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Monday, 15 December 2008 07:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh dear, I hope you'll find your cat and he/she is fine. My mom's cat was once lost in the woods for almost two months, but eventually she was found and she wasn't hurt or anything (just lost some weight). Thankfully cats are quite good at surviving.

Tuomas, Monday, 15 December 2008 07:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Especially in the woods, which I think used to be their natural habitat(?).

Tuomas, Monday, 15 December 2008 07:53 (fifteen years ago) link

awww roxy i hope you find your kitty :(

also, i kind of want to punch your ex-guy too.

RADNESS UNLIMITED! (sunny successor), Monday, 15 December 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

YOU VOTED FOR BUSH IN 2000!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

what the hell

pretty impressive war skills (gbx), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 02:59 (fifteen years ago) link

did he want to have a beer with him

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 02:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Rox lots of "aww" and "soz, bro" from a dude on the internet you don't know.

This: forever must associate this guy with underworld (was actually worried about this WHEN we went to see them), enslaved, the clash and carcass, probably my four favorite bands. (in my experience at least) goes away. It takes AWHILE, but it goes away, and afterwards the music you associated with the ex becomes even more your own than it ever was beforehand. Kind of cool actually.

en i see kay, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 05:54 (fifteen years ago) link

in my experience, you have to start forcing yourself right now to listen to this music and listen to it repeatedly, till there's no longer an association (or you get a new association).

just1n3, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 06:00 (fifteen years ago) link

awesome part of my last breakup is now i have a good reason to not watch grey's anatomy or the tudors

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 06:20 (fifteen years ago) link

cat unfound

also, forgot that our first real date was to see ian curtis movie, and the first convo we had was about joy division

lol, my actual favorite band you DICK i'm taking them back you don't even like new order

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 19 December 2008 07:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh dear, hope the cat will be found eventually... At least it's not cold there in the winter, right?

Tuomas, Friday, 19 December 2008 07:34 (fifteen years ago) link

It's pretty cold, but he's a Norwegian cat.

A Norwegian Forest Cat, actually, is his breed!!

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 19 December 2008 07:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, he should manage in the forest for a while then.

Tuomas, Friday, 19 December 2008 07:40 (fifteen years ago) link

poor kitty :(

tokyo rosemary, Friday, 19 December 2008 14:02 (fifteen years ago) link

that cat went on some kind of buddhistic soul journey for 6 weeks when i lived downtown and came back very thin and covered in leaves, acting very serene

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 19 December 2008 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link

He learned a lot about himself, out there.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Friday, 19 December 2008 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link

texted me for no reason. i asked a question back to no repsonse. what a weirdo.

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 December 2008 09:00 (fifteen years ago) link

not the cat, but the ex

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 December 2008 09:00 (fifteen years ago) link

"ROX - IN FORST 4 XMAS VAC - C U L8R <3 CAT"

snoball, Sunday, 21 December 2008 09:53 (fifteen years ago) link

awwww <3

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 December 2008 09:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Can I do this too pretty pls? I think it will be healthy.

You rarely came to see either of my bands play even when you weren't doing anything else and when you did you would completely disappear and often leave entirely. When I said I didn't mind if you didn't like our music but I wanted you to tell me if this was the case you yelled at me for not spending enough time with you. You yelled at me for not spending enough time with you almost constantly for the majority of the hours I spent with you every day for like 5 months straight.

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

You decided we were broke up when we had a fight (at 3 am) without clarifying this with me and somehow managed to cheat on me with your douchebag yoga teacher before I got out of work the next day (at 3 pm)...you said you thought we were broke up.

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

You yelled at me for doing stuff around the house for your mom (her mom has MS) because you said now she would expect you to also.

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

After I got you into Wax Fang when we saw them in November you tried to keep me from singing along with their songs by putting your hand over my mouth and making mean faces at me.

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link

You made out with a girl at that show who had a fake beard and looked like Bono!

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I always paid for you for everything because you were unemployed. (<-this one is pretty much on me though)

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

An unemployed massage therapist who traded massages for yoga lessons from the dude you eventually cheated on me with.

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

You also never wrote me a letter (I wrote many while you were in Lake Tahoe!), made me a mix CD, cooked me a meal or made me a pie or anything!

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Shit I should probably stop. Sorry to steal your thread rox! <3 u!

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

You refused to go to Nashville AND Chicago with me & my band because you thought I was in love with one of our singers.

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link

haha whoops

Okay now I'm done.

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link

keep it up this chick sounds like bad news its important to vent

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean i dont want to speak for rox but shes an open hearted person and im sure shed encourage you to keep posting

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link

she was very encouraging when i posted on this thread

a mountain climber who plays an electric guitar (gabbneb), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

After I got you into Wax Fang when we saw them in November you tried to keep me from singing along with their songs by putting your hand over my mouth and making mean faces at me.
WOW

ghost kittens! so cute! (sunny successor), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 04:07 (fifteen years ago) link

hey as a sidebar - do all guys well not EXPECT so much as want a meal cooked for them as a romantic gesture? Because I gotta tell you it'll be a minnesota day in hell before I do that for anyone. im pliable though

ghost kittens! so cute! (sunny successor), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 04:09 (fifteen years ago) link

shit i must be crazy - i make my bf breakfast (lol it's just a bowl of cereal) and lunch every day

just1n3, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 04:14 (fifteen years ago) link

cooking food with/for someone is fun imo but if yr not into it it's no biggie, and anyone who would find that a dealbreaker is perhaps weird. but in both the above cases it seems of a piece with just general thoughtlessness and self-centredness.

dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 04:16 (fifteen years ago) link

people in different styles of showing love shocker

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 04:18 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

give oscar the grouch (a-bomb), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 04:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay I will rephrase.

You always promised to make me a pie and you never even made me toast.

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:27 (fifteen years ago) link

To be fair you did make me coffee a couple times.

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:27 (fifteen years ago) link

OH! You didn't tell me you were going to Atlanta for 10 days, I found out when I saw your dad at Krogers the night before you left. WTF.

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link

When you left you took my only tempurpedic pillow!!!!

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link

thank you for the memories foam

estela, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:33 (fifteen years ago) link

ha!

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:33 (fifteen years ago) link

You told my sister that my penis is shaped like a torpedo!

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:33 (fifteen years ago) link

with the fins and everything??>

Merry Christuomas (electricsound), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link

if you were my brother i would have shut her down before she got as far as 'shaped like'.

estela, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i will no longer have to listen to your father snidely chiding me about anderson cooper being bred as a result of a liberal media conspiracy while you sit tacitly

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Thursday, 25 December 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, and you were retarded during the pre-election debates

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Thursday, 25 December 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

you thought your friend at work visiting and verbally abusing prositutes was a nice loltime story to enjoy over cracker barrel biscuits and apple butter

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 27 December 2008 01:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i think it's pretty hard to find good uses/times for apple butter but that is sure as hell not one.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 27 December 2008 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

you thought i had an affair in nyc, which explains one of the items on this thread

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

you told me once that you thought "blank/idiotic" was a good look on a girl

^this is a paraphrase, but reeeeaaaalllly

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this guy texting me today, 3x so far

roxymuzak, Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:37 (fifteen years ago) link

^this hangs over my amp in practice space

<3<3<3<3

roxymuzak, Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:42 (fifteen years ago) link

suggest ignore

Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:44 (fifteen years ago) link

he knows youve got a new guy?

tacos, fettucini, linguini, martini, bikini. (sunny successor), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:46 (fifteen years ago) link

hm. doubtful, but possible.

unless he is reading this aka HI MATT!!!!!

roxymuzak, Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:50 (fifteen years ago) link

is he an ilxor?!

Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:52 (fifteen years ago) link

no, but i have reason to believe he lurked, documented here: dumpwatch (attn: hoosteen)

roxymuzak, Sunday, 18 January 2009 06:35 (fifteen years ago) link

uh

he asked me to teach him voice lessons?

roxymuzak, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link

actual lol right now

roxymuzak, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link

He wants you back?

By the way, what about your cat, was he ever found?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 13:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Idea: agree to voice lessons and then give him exercises like "Sing the words 'I'm sorry I was a DIIIICK" to the melody of 'I'm the barber of SeVILLLLE'. Extra points for Bugs Bunny impersonation."

WmC, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Ughhh Rox I had a bf like yr ex years ago, constantly belittling me, telling me shit like "my friends don't actually *like* you you know, theyre just being nice to you cuz youre with me, stop deluding yourself". And shoving lighters into my face and drunkenly pissing the bed and ringing me after I moved INTERSTATE to escape him and pretending to be my dad (!??!) because I wouldnt answer his calls...

Trayce, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

jesus christ trayce

how does this happen to ppl

anyway, i didnt give him the lesson but i did talk to him on the phone today for about 30 mins. i think he mostly just wanted to talk to/see me. it was pathetto.

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

what happens on march 20th???

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish I knew how it happens.

Last night I had a bit of a blowup/whinge with my bf cause he got a bit pointed and said "you always say you might make dinner then never do and I'm sick of eating at 10pm I have to start cooking things" ... as if it is ALL MY RESPONSIBILITY TO FUCKING DO EVERYTHING. I do all the cooking, 80% of the housework, and remembering to pay the bills and stuff. He sits in la la land writing his fucking electronic music all day long and is "too tired" to cook or clean as if I'm not as well and the only reason I am ranting about this is because every bf Ive ever had is the freaking same wtf guys?

Trayce, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Ahem sorry, have had a bad couple of days. <3 my boy but there are some drawbacks with dating someone 12 years younger :/

Trayce, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

oh no, you cant allow somebody to do this

roxymuzak, Thursday, 22 January 2009 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Last night I had a bit of a blowup/whinge with my bf cause he got a bit pointed and said "you always say you might make dinner then never do and I'm sick of eating at 10pm I have to start cooking things" ... as if it is ALL MY RESPONSIBILITY TO FUCKING DO EVERYTHING. I do all the cooking, 80% of the housework, and remembering to pay the bills and stuff. He sits in la la land writing his fucking electronic music all day long and is "too tired" to cook or clean as if I'm not as well and the only reason I am ranting about this is because every bf Ive ever had is the freaking same wtf guys?

ahh life w/ a musician

tacos, fettucini, linguini, martini, bikini. (sunny successor), Thursday, 22 January 2009 05:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Just know that there are plenty of men out there who would be happy to eat dinner at 10 p.m.

Eazy, Thursday, 22 January 2009 06:36 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL sunny tell me about it =) I love him to bits but aaarghhh.

Trayce, Thursday, 22 January 2009 06:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Trayce, get take out. For one.

Eat it in front of him.

We've Got A Lovebox And We're Gonna Use It (Masonic Boom), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

lol!

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Hee hee hee. Oh I feel so mean now :/

Trayce, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

talk up the dinner youre going to make at 6:30 pm and then reveal it to be two packs of ramen

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

announce 'tonight i might not make dinner' and then don't and at 10pm cordon off the kitchen with crime scene tape.

estela, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

You know, it's one thing if you enjoy cooking and you get a kick out of making food and presenting it... which is a wonderful and valid thing.

But it's quite another thing when blokes just *expect* like you're going to provide home-cooked meals for them every night. That's just total BS, like, what am I, your mum?

In the LTRs I've been in, I've done the majority of the cooking coz, you know, I *like* food. But if it becomes expected, well.. go on strike. He knows where the fridge is. He knows where the stove is. tell him if he EXPECTS to eat at a certain time, to do it himself. In fact, cooking for you might be bloody nice for a change.

x-post I LOVE ESTELA'S ANSWER

We've Got A Lovebox And We're Gonna Use It (Masonic Boom), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

ok say that you might make dinner and do your usual thing, whatever it was that bothered him in the 1st place

whenever he finally breaks down and goes to get arbys or whatever, unveil some magical, fabulous and elaborate meal you have made for only yourself and explain that you know how he just HATES eating at 10pm or you would have made him some also

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

You guys are way better at this passive aggressive thing than I am.

Static Space And The Acoustic Moth (Masonic Boom), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link

years of practice

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Every time I start to think that I miss having a relationship, this thread reminds me why i really really don't.

Static Space And The Acoustic Moth (Masonic Boom), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I <3 youse guys.

Trayce, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link

you should make us some sandwiches to prove it.

estela, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:08 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah and i aint waitin til 10pm neither

roxymuzak, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:10 (fifteen years ago) link

!!

estela, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahaha I was thinking "oh god this is funny I have to show my boyf... oh wait."

Trayce, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Every time I start to think that I miss having a relationship, this thread reminds me why i really really don't.

― Static Space And The Acoustic Moth (Masonic Boom), Friday, January 23, 2009 2:18 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kate masonic boom 100% otm here^^

gr8080, Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link

this thread reminds me that everyone, including me, is a nuisance.

estela, Saturday, 24 January 2009 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

left me depressed text messages whilst i was making out with new guy

vindicated

will never post on thread again

_____________________________________________________________________

roxymuzak, Saturday, 24 January 2009 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.shopcrazy.com.ph/wp-content/images/2008/02/dg-over-it.jpg

velko, Saturday, 24 January 2009 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

the maximum value that ZS obtains given its constraint is 8 (Z S), Saturday, 24 January 2009 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link

trayce you should grab something to eat on the waY HOME AND THEN WHEN YOU GET THERE SAY 'YOU KNOW, I DONT THINK ILL BE EATING DINNER ANYMORE'

tacos, fettucini, linguini, martini, bikini. (sunny successor), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 04:23 (fifteen years ago) link

SORRRY TOO MUCH COKE IN MY KEYBOARD LAST NIGHT

tacos, fettucini, linguini, martini, bikini. (sunny successor), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 04:24 (fifteen years ago) link

OH THE EATING ON THE WAY HOME HAS TO BE BE A SECREDCT!!!

tacos, fettucini, linguini, martini, bikini. (sunny successor), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 04:24 (fifteen years ago) link

dont do coke off your keyboard

gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:20 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL i made us dinner tonite ha but in fairness I wz home all day so no big effort.

5 days of 100F+ weather for the rest of the week so fuck a cooking.

Trayce, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

it's happening?!?

I CAN'T TAKE THE RONG!!! (The Reverend), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 08:22 (fifteen years ago) link

dude

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 08:31 (fifteen years ago) link

oh man

I want sprinkles (country matters), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 12:44 (fifteen years ago) link

sry HOOS

Redknapp out (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link

GO HOOS! we're here for u, buddy

just1n3, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

good luck buddy. remember, it's just like ripping off a band-aid. a nagging, irrational band-aid.

Mother Father Chinese Dentist (ytth), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 03:16 (fifteen years ago) link

who's always mad at u

just1n3, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

class act, thanks bro (tehresa), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 03:52 (fifteen years ago) link

if anything a hoos has told me is true, I think this is the right decision.

I CAN'T TAKE THE RONG!!! (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 07:55 (fifteen years ago) link

always break up after the 3rd date, works out best in long run.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link

'luck with that.

Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Friday, 27 February 2009 10:19 (fifteen years ago) link

another MONTH

deej da 5'9 (deej), Friday, 27 February 2009 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link

<3 hoos rootin for you

yur twit (tehresa), Friday, 27 February 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry hoos im projecting my own 'relationship' rite now needs to end

deej da 5'9 (deej), Friday, 27 February 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

breakup season

quadratrillionaire (sunny successor), Friday, 27 February 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

breakup sesh

deej da 5'9 (deej), Friday, 27 February 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

ok 4 days is like an eternity in ilx time now

the styles are a lie (roxymuzak), Friday, 27 February 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link

HOOS I admire your maturity.

GLEEPGLOP BLOOPBLORP (nickalicious), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 05:02 (fifteen years ago) link

congrats homie, v happy 4 u

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 March 2009 06:10 (fifteen years ago) link

omg hi-5 hoos i'm so proud of you buddy! <3 <3 <3

where we turn sweet dreams into remarkable realities (just1n3), Monday, 16 March 2009 06:11 (fifteen years ago) link

yes i just noticed that... i just said to j 'i think hoos broke up w/his gf on twitter'

where we turn sweet dreams into remarkable realities (just1n3), Monday, 16 March 2009 06:17 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha

<3 <3

tehresa, Monday, 16 March 2009 06:21 (fifteen years ago) link

apparently i missed all that by only viewing @replies for ppl i know!

i was debriefed via text though, so it's cool.

i'm so proud of you for your maturity, hoos!

3.0 my asssssss.

tehresa, Monday, 16 March 2009 06:23 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i figured it was a gag

told you i would immortalise that lil' speech in my username

where we turn sweet dreams into remarkable realities (just1n3), Monday, 16 March 2009 06:25 (fifteen years ago) link

haha awesome

tehresa, Monday, 16 March 2009 06:26 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm so proud of you for your maturity, hoos!

this is otm

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 March 2009 06:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i was gonna 'like' your status on fb but i didn't wanna throw confetti on the breakup or something from the gfs perspective

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 March 2009 06:30 (fifteen years ago) link

i was gonna 'like' your status on fb but i didn't wanna throw confetti on the breakup or something from the gfs perspective

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― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:30 PM Bookmark

ha, faced the same dillemma

good job, HOOS!

Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 08:19 (fifteen years ago) link

fwiw i'm taking ur side

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 March 2009 08:38 (fifteen years ago) link

-your dad, a farm boy from iowa, once asked ice cube "what's up, homie g?"

waht?

Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 08:44 (fifteen years ago) link

tbf all married couples love billy joel and musicals

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 March 2009 08:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Directed by Fred Durst

Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 08:50 (fifteen years ago) link

damn homie

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 March 2009 09:06 (fifteen years ago) link

loool @ hoos' ex

Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 09:15 (fifteen years ago) link

...half-open?

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Monday, 16 March 2009 09:21 (fifteen years ago) link

dang

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Monday, 16 March 2009 09:21 (fifteen years ago) link

wait are you fighting on im??

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Monday, 16 March 2009 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah seriously Hoos dump that ass right now.

Last Exit to Steve Brookstein (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 March 2009 10:16 (fifteen years ago) link

go to a diner

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Monday, 16 March 2009 10:18 (fifteen years ago) link

dude, run fast and don't look back

velko, Monday, 16 March 2009 10:19 (fifteen years ago) link

see that i can agree with

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 16 March 2009 10:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Nah, bad comedies are the worst movies ever.

Last Exit to Steve Brookstein (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 March 2009 10:22 (fifteen years ago) link

the die is cast, huh

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Monday, 16 March 2009 10:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Man, I'd be casting that die as far as I could with a catapult.

Last Exit to Steve Brookstein (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 March 2009 10:25 (fifteen years ago) link

this is really real

dude n ned (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 March 2009 10:26 (fifteen years ago) link

i think i speak for most people when i say it's a shame lou-jag didn't liveblog his break-up too.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 16 March 2009 10:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Didn't realise LJ was broke up :(

Last Exit to Steve Brookstein (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 March 2009 10:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Noodle, it's been over 2 months! In fact, the other night saw her send a really chilled-out, non-bitter email of conciliation and ice-breaking "right, silence is silly, and I wanna hold my head high and deal with this maturely by voicing my friendly concerns...how you doing?"...followed by a pleasant, life-establishing MSN conversation, so I think I've pretty much achieved closure. May even get a friendship out of it! Pretty much A+ exit strategy for all-time IMO, regardless of how painful the moment of departure was. Furthermore I feel absolved from whatever I'm about to do, lolz

As for a HOOS, well, I can only hope similar results accrue. Keep it zingy by all means but yeh honesty is always the best policy in the instant of cut-off.

POLLonius (country matters), Monday, 16 March 2009 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link

head up, hoos.

loujag- i would wait until i've seen her with a fat biker dude before i proudly proclaim my 'over it like an adult' stage, if past experience is anything to go by.

Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Monday, 16 March 2009 11:23 (fifteen years ago) link

at what point to we send in a search party?

tehresa, Monday, 16 March 2009 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/graphics/news3/JAG_S6.jpg

eman, Monday, 16 March 2009 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Hoos - well done. It'll get better. Just know that you've made the right choice.

I also almost "liked" your status on FB then decided that probably wasn't appropriate.

Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Monday, 16 March 2009 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

i liked it and then decided it wasn't appropriate and unliked it!

tehresa, Monday, 16 March 2009 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link

wtf none of you people can spell 'licked'

Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Monday, 16 March 2009 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah hoos, was gonna post last night: 'wait till the lolz wear off and she realises you aren't gonna kiss and make up this time'

hope you got out of there ASAP, and can manage to stay out - DON'T CAVE!!

where we turn sweet dreams into remarkable realities (just1n3), Monday, 16 March 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

good luck hoos!

caek, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

can you please somehow impart this information in the brane of one of my best friends, as they've been denying this to be possible for a couple of years now

HOOS, this is absolutely none of my business BUT you are talking about your relationship in as public a forum as is available so I guess I'm entitled to throw in my twopence worth, right?

I absolutely understand the need for catharsis but is it not likely/possible that, sooner or later, you're gonna regret revealing so much in such a public way? Tbh none of your grievances about her strike me as being anywhere near as potentially condemnable as sharing them with 10,000+ people you may or may not know on the internet.

Just an isolated thought, yo. Otherwise keep up the good work. And keep fighting :)

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 11:49 (fifteen years ago) link

i fully support lolz in all their forms and since I don't know this girl... carry on. but still, for your own sake:
http://www.whistlerblackcomb.com/NR/rdonlyres/D70D82AC-699B-47F5-BDF1-751768D3344B/0/check_wreck.gif

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 11:57 (fifteen years ago) link

har

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 11:58 (fifteen years ago) link

HOOS this is just an observation but based on this list i could never, ever, ever date yr ex.

i think our only common ground would be walking in memphis and we probably like it for different reasons.

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 12:01 (fifteen years ago) link

HOOS, congrats for extricating yrself from the poison clutches, that's all I'm gonna say.

WmC, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 12:23 (fifteen years ago) link

"i value my opinion less because of you" - sad, but i felt the same way at the end of my last relationship. worse yet, i had been convinced that this was good for me.

Mother Father Chinese Dentist (ytth), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 01:55 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.srpublications.com/tools/drama_theater/images/renaissance_music.jpg

Aye was en Memphife a-walking.

Eazy, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 04:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Man up hoos & avoid romanticizing any of it

@diplo DUB STEP!! GET DA FUCK UP!!! (deej), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 07:39 (fifteen years ago) link

word

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 07:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Last Exit to Steve Brookstein (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 07:50 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^ Crank that shit, homes

Last Exit to Steve Brookstein (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 07:51 (fifteen years ago) link

missed all this

hoos i am proud of you

keep ya head up

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

that was pretty o_O

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

"puma"?

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't even remember what it's an acronym for, people united something america or something but they were basically butthurt hrc fans and my ex was one of them

14 karat gold steen computer wizard (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

party unity my ass

velko, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

i'm grand like auto theft 3 (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link

u got it

roxymuzak, Thursday, 19 March 2009 06:06 (fifteen years ago) link

-you got ridic heated when i joked that "walking in memphis" is a song about how transcendent it is to hang out with black people

― 14 karat gold steen computer wizard (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:27 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

^^^^^^^^ truthbomb zing and lol trifecta in excelsis

fuck all y'all i'm gonna die young w/bubbles in my mouth (stevie), Thursday, 19 March 2009 08:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Urrrrhh I regret ranting about mah man on here, he's good people, I just needed to remind him to pick up the pace and he did, so hey :/

one art, please (Trayce), Friday, 27 March 2009 07:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i regret nothing

WHO DEY and the blowfish (roxymuzak), Friday, 27 March 2009 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

aw :(

WHO DEY and the blowfish (roxymuzak), Friday, 27 March 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

<4 back at u

zone 6 polar bear (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 May 2009 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link

wow never saw this thread but man, it makes me genuinely happy to see folks like roxy and HOOS get out of bad situations and move on, maybe it's cathartic because i've watched so many friends and cool people stuck in shitty relationships.

i heart sucka MCs (some dude), Friday, 1 May 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i have a friend who is on the cusp of getting married but he's told a mutual friend that he's not really feeling it anymore, but he's not backing out. : /

"Together we could rape the universe" (omar little), Friday, 1 May 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

will never settle again. DNW

tuppence b. bag (roxymuzak), Friday, 1 May 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link

well done hoos!

goole, Friday, 1 May 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Kinda awful thing, it seems like if someone goes thru enough shitty relationships they end up sorta subconciously wanting to be treated that way and having difficulty not encouraging it in partners who wanna be really nice to them.

Niles Caulder, Monday, 11 May 2009 04:22 (fourteen years ago) link

This thread heightens my paranoia that I'm being a bad/inconsiderate boyfriend.

╓abies, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link

all boyfriends need a little of that paranoia

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 12:31 (fourteen years ago) link

It's true. I'm sure a lot of us mean well, but it's so easy to be bumbling and oblivious. At least for me it is.

Also I'm 8 brazilian miles away and I don't really know what protocol is, which is primary source for paranoia.

╓abies, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

BIG HOOS you can see this as a below the belt insult or you can look at it as an opportunity to start a tumblr called passive aggressive tweets and get a six figgo book deal

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link

whatevs fuck that 'friend'

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link

uh, max otm

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link

sounds like she's trying to guilt trip you so you won't ask for the $$

where we turn sweet dreams into remarkable realities (just1n3), Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

invite her over for nostalgia sex and demand the money in exchange for her clothers

get money fuck witches (HI DERE), Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

loool

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 26 June 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Hoos get yr $$$ is you can and then no mas w/her, eh?

baleen, the krill queen (Abbott), Friday, 26 June 2009 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Roxy, u killin' me, boo.

tehresa, Friday, 26 June 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

hoos i believe the relevant phrase in this situation is iirc

fuck bitches

get money

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 26 June 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck money, get bitches

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 26 June 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Major points to noodle vague for posting raving I'm raving

admrl, Friday, 26 June 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't really know big hoos the steendriver but this thread has greatly endeared him to me

admrl, Friday, 26 June 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

ne'er encountered the phrase 'revenge fuck' before, kudos to hoos' roomie for expanding my consciousness

the funk soul custos (country matters), Friday, 26 June 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

what about grudge fuck

carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 June 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link

nor that

the funk soul custos (country matters), Friday, 26 June 2009 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link

neat concept mind, if i held grudges i'd be sure to consider it

the funk soul custos (country matters), Friday, 26 June 2009 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

also roxy your post roughly 15 upthread is priceless

the funk soul custos (country matters), Friday, 26 June 2009 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link

it is the kind of post which is not excelsiored because everyone assumes everyone else is rushing to excelsior it

the funk soul custos (country matters), Friday, 26 June 2009 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link

hoos, add a $500 cleaning fee to the debt she owes

that's what landlords charge, right?

where we turn sweet dreams into remarkable realities (just1n3), Saturday, 27 June 2009 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^^^^^^

carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Saturday, 27 June 2009 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link

bill her via telegram and sign the telegram "friend"

carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Saturday, 27 June 2009 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link

call her tearfully and tell her what a mistake you made ending the relationship, and how nothing would make you happier than just getting some coffee with her and seeing her one more time, and if she doesn't even want to take you back, just seeing her that one last time would mean everything to you, blah blah blah.

then, don't go. you don't get your money back, but it would probably be worth $1000.

a terrible camera... with fangs and shit... (ytth), Saturday, 27 June 2009 03:43 (fourteen years ago) link

oh i get it... because doing that would be COLD AS ICE.

sweet.

a terrible camera... with fangs and shit... (ytth), Saturday, 27 June 2009 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Well,

carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Thursday, 2 July 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

better come up with a solid reason that I dumped u before u call today

carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Thursday, 2 July 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

u_U

carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Thursday, 2 July 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

lol :/

\(o_o)/

harbl, Thursday, 2 July 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

dumped a dude on the sidewalk at pilot light, bad form imo

carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Thursday, 2 July 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

in everyones o

carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Thursday, 2 July 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Dear Dude,

I feel really bad about dumping you on the sidewalk. It was a bad decision and I regret it. I was wondering if you would like to have dinner on Friday so I could dump you again more properly. You are an okay-ish but not great guy and you deserve that much.

Love but not in love,
Roxymuzak

nabisco, Thursday, 2 July 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

startlingly otm, but there will be no dinner consumed

carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Thursday, 2 July 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

any time anyone says anything about grindcore you start talking about the locust

gucci gone bonkers (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 10:51 (fourteen years ago) link

HEY TRY DOING THIS WHILE YOU'RE ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE WORLD

I'm Australian or some other weird nationality (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link

It's great fun!!

I'm Australian or some other weird nationality (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i've had breakups where it would've been a better option, i think.

51 logins to SB Jol (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 13:15 (fourteen years ago) link

HEY TRY DOING THIS WHILE YOU'RE ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE WORLD

― I'm Australian or some other weird nationality (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:11 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is this like the Australian version of 'i have a girlfriend ... she lives in canada'

mustafa moe money (deej), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah iirc it is a hell of a lot easier on opposite sides of the world. doi

go cram on 'em (roxymuzak), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

though probably there'd be less opportunity for other people to bring up grindcore and him to always mention the Locust.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link

thats what hapenned when we were together, duh
we are now talking about breakups

go cram on 'em (roxymuzak), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

hapenned????
happened

go cram on 'em (roxymuzak), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I was merely commenting on the fact that w/long distance relationships a lot of the annoyances/warning signs of a relationship that isn't gonna work out aren't as apparent or don't exist.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

ok

breaking up, on the other hand, is hella easy when the person isnt in your face 24/7 or indeed at all

go cram on 'em (roxymuzak), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link

that's the truth ... I remember dating/breaking up with someone who was my housemate at the time, and the constant proximity post-breakup drove me psycho.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link

been there i feel for u girl

go cram on 'em (roxymuzak), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:52 (fourteen years ago) link

It was a fairly big house - about 25 people lived there, and his room was directly beneath mine, so I could hear him and his rebound girlfriend going at it. At which point, I'd put on Throbbing Gristle Live at the Death Factory extremely loudly and leave the house.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:52 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha <3 thats amazing behavior

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 16 July 2009 01:01 (fourteen years ago) link

It was weird that I got so aggro - I dumped him, but the rebound girl was so gross, I felt it was a personal insult.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Thursday, 16 July 2009 01:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Guys, I like closure. And to be honest, I wanted this relationship after she came back.

I'm Australian or some other weird nationality (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 16 July 2009 08:54 (fourteen years ago) link

we're back together fwiw and iirc

go cram on 'em (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 July 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

any time anyone says anything about grindcore you start talking about the locust

― gucci gone bonkers (roxymuzak), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:51 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^will be addressed.

go cram on 'em (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 July 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

dude de-dumped

velko, Friday, 17 July 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

have never done that before tbh. ive never "gotten back together" with anybody. it is weird!!!!

go cram on 'em (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 July 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Wait, you've gotten back together with whom?

bamcquern, Friday, 17 July 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

the guy i broke up with 7/1 (never forget)

go cram on 'em (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 July 2009 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

how long were you together?

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Friday, 17 July 2009 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

not long! a couple months

go cram on 'em (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 July 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

3 months?

go cram on 'em (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 July 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

He seems like a nice guy. Obviously Roxy = king (or queen).

bamcquern, Friday, 17 July 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

then the getting back together thing might work out fine ... I've just seen too many couples that have been together for years break up and try getting back together again, and that almost always ends badly.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Friday, 17 July 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not too surprised, his crimes list was tellingly short.

estela, Friday, 17 July 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

haha

go cram on 'em (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 July 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

then the getting back together thing might work out fine ... I've just seen too many couples that have been together for years break up and try getting back together again, and that almost always ends badly.

― well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Friday, July 17, 2009 9:36 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

^^^^ this has been my experience.

ian, Sunday, 19 July 2009 15:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I broke up with my first proper girlfriend, then got back together with her more than a year later (during which we'd both seen other people). We ended up staying together much longer the second time than we did the first time, maybe because during the time we weren't together we'd found out that the grass wasn't greener on the other side of the fence. Ultimately the relationship did end, but I don't regret getting back together with her, as I have many good memories of those times.

Tuomas, Sunday, 19 July 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

We were both in our teens when we first got together though, so I think all this was more like a "learning to be in a steady relationship" experience, and I'm sure it's quite different for older couples who break up and then get back together.

Tuomas, Sunday, 19 July 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

It's not that different. I think people can always get better at relationships and have the opportunity for another go around. It all depends on how much of a dumbass one or the other was because you can only erase away so much dumbass in a given time.

bamcquern, Sunday, 19 July 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I think a lot of the dumbassery is contextual ... people develop patterns and habits of interaction with one another. It's difficult not to revert to previous habits and patterns.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Sunday, 19 July 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

That is insightful.

bamcquern, Sunday, 19 July 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sda sada sad sadasad sad sad sad sad sad sad

ian, Monday, 20 July 2009 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

:(

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

()<---- pill of <3

dont blaze me dro (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link

dumped a dude on the sidewalk at pilot light, bad form imo

― carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Friday, July 3, 2009 5:38 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Coulda done worse, I got dumped at a crowded bar once. At least you didn't run into him all drunk and unplanned and 'oh hey, btw'. In front of his friends. </bitter, lol>

drunk shudder shades chick gets kicked out of mcdonalds totally (╓abies), Thursday, 23 July 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

me: so do you like ANY metal besides the locust cause thats all you talk about
he: of course
he: i also like manowar

dont blaze me dro (roxymuzak), Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Dude, a relationship does not live and die by the metal!

bamcquern, Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link

he made me laugh tbh

dont blaze me dro (roxymuzak), Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah "I also like Manowar" would make me laugh, too.

bamcquern, Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link

how to not dwell on being lonely during times we used to spend together (i.e. sundays)

ian, Sunday, 26 July 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

besides doing things with other friends, what about doing things that you enjoy/wanted to do that your ex wasn't into?

but i slept until 3!

ian, Sunday, 26 July 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

1. next time dont sleep til three
2. follow ^^^ advice

kid cruti (roxymuzak), Sunday, 26 July 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

no but sleeping til three was doing something she hated!

ian, Sunday, 26 July 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

also tbh dog woke me up and we walked from 9-10 then i came back and fell asleep again

ian, Sunday, 26 July 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I dunno - movies the ex didn't want to see, music they weren't into, go to the store and buy ingredients and make yourself some delicious meal that requires planning or concentration.

oh ok i see

kid cruti (roxymuzak), Sunday, 26 July 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

basically - do something nice for yourself that involves distracting your brain from thinking about your ex, ideally something enjoyable that you wouldn't have done when you were together.

do not recommend: getting drunk by yourself

you will not want to hang out with other people but you must

kid cruti (roxymuzak), Sunday, 26 July 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ yes

Are you fucking kidding me?

youwillbeturnedintoapumpkin, Friday, 31 July 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Is she kidding you about what?

bamcquern, Friday, 31 July 2009 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

what the fuck

kid cruti (roxymuzak), Saturday, 1 August 2009 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Perhaps Fairy Godmother up there just got dumped and is expressing incredulity

BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 1 August 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah yeah, that might be it. Were you thinking, hoos, as I was, that fgm has a great sn?

bamcquern, Saturday, 1 August 2009 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

we only dated for about a month and i broke up with her and i feel like a dick

don't try to church it up (nickalicious), Saturday, 1 August 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

stay strong nicka!

BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 1 August 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

after a month is almost not really breaking up, no? more like calling it off. obv depends entirely on the details but that is to say, you prob needn't feel as bad as you do.

do not recommend: getting drunk by yourself

been doing this for two years now. uh

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Saturday, 1 August 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

It's not good to drink by yrself if you are trying to drown yr woe and you aren't really noticing yr intake, or worse, having some kind of competition w/yrself to see if you can outdo some past drinking record. That's how I interpret the above advice, in context.

a muttering inbred (called) (not named) (Abbott), Sunday, 2 August 2009 01:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Better to cry yourself to sleep than to vomit yourself to death.

a muttering inbred (called) (not named) (Abbott), Sunday, 2 August 2009 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link

nick, don't even think abt it and instead focus on your new wot friend.

ian, Sunday, 2 August 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

wot friend?

kid cruti (roxymuzak), Sunday, 2 August 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Captain Sensible?

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Sunday, 2 August 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

doro wot friend
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1161/704968775_5a506bde31.jpg

blobfish russian (harbl), Sunday, 2 August 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

what on earth

BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 2 August 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

ethiopian food is indeed my friend.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Sunday, 2 August 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

family naan

caek, Sunday, 2 August 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

i love ethiopian food. injera takes some getting used to, but it's damn delicious.

a terrible camera... with fangs and shit... (ytth), Monday, 3 August 2009 00:59 (fourteen years ago) link

so i take it we are all over our breakups

kid cruti (roxymuzak), Monday, 3 August 2009 01:00 (fourteen years ago) link

shit i need to go on an ethiopian date soon. it's been too long.

tehresa, Monday, 3 August 2009 01:00 (fourteen years ago) link

apparently even the mere mention of ethiopian food will cure you of your post-breakup malaise.

a terrible camera... with fangs and shit... (ytth), Monday, 3 August 2009 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

swingin addis: good for the soul

tehresa, Monday, 3 August 2009 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

i am v proud of us

kid cruti (roxymuzak), Monday, 3 August 2009 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link

wait, are you two an item now? i am confused etc.

Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Monday, 3 August 2009 01:57 (fourteen years ago) link

!!!!!!!!

we are items with other people WmC!!!!

kid cruti (roxymuzak), Monday, 3 August 2009 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link

OK!!!

I am not "down" with the latest "dishes" y'all Knoxvillains are "cooking"!!!

Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Monday, 3 August 2009 02:43 (fourteen years ago) link

hoos lives in austin TX btw!

kid cruti (roxymuzak), Monday, 3 August 2009 02:45 (fourteen years ago) link

fyi rock u are not the first person to make that "mistake"

max, Monday, 3 August 2009 02:49 (fourteen years ago) link

yes you are the second! <3

kid cruti (roxymuzak), Monday, 3 August 2009 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

OK, color me corrected!

Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Monday, 3 August 2009 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link

lol @ all this

BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 3 August 2009 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link

max u rapscallion u

BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 3 August 2009 03:01 (fourteen years ago) link

iirc max is notorious for making this sort of 'mistake'

tehresa, Monday, 3 August 2009 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh

kid cruti (roxymuzak), Monday, 3 August 2009 03:04 (fourteen years ago) link

afaic

BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 3 August 2009 03:05 (fourteen years ago) link

i emailed my ex yesterday & today, cuz i've been freaking out about finding a place to live and generally missing her even more since my life has gotten fucked even harder. i feel like such a pathetic loser. though she said she would watch my cat if need be. i am a sad, lonely fucker.

ian, Friday, 7 August 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

please try to keep in yr brane that despite how you feel right now, none of this shit ur going thru is your fault -- i got mad faith in u bud, you will pull thru!

there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Friday, 7 August 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 <3 <3

there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Friday, 7 August 2009 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link

yah you are pretty grebt

mookieproof, Friday, 7 August 2009 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link

thanks elmo & mookie, i think you guys are more-than-swell.

ian, Friday, 7 August 2009 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Aw Ian it'll get better. It always does. Hang in there. <3

ENBB, Friday, 7 August 2009 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah keep your head up,ian!

carne asada, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

got a break-up email from bible camp yesterday. i knew it was going to end (meeting a girl at the end of university as we go live 4 hours apart never a good way to start a relationship), but of all the ways for it to end. :(

a hoy hoy, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

"bible camp"???

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, a retreat her church does every year, where she goes and helps out, making sure the kids don't die or whatever.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, i've kinda got a no chick-dedicated-to-a-religion rule these days. that shit can warp perfectly intelligent and wonderful people's perspectives.

Fetchboy, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

aw i was about to lol but it is mostly sad now

cockles (country matters), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

It was pirate themed and I helped make fucking props for games. Man that was the most boring pointless day of my life.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

It was pirate themed

instadump imo

cockles (country matters), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

She was kind of boring and with her identical twin, once spent a whole night out getting me drunk and trying to trick me into making sure I could tell who was who (changing outfits in the toilets)(I could tell, due to being amazing) but she had great legs and made cakes.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

dude lj, there's nothing wrong with kids liking pirates, although the idea of christian pirates sounds kinda boring.

Fetchboy, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

don't worry there are plenty of chicks with great legs who don't go to bible camp and are not boring

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

most of them make cakes too

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow, having a thread to bitch to people who have no idea who she is feels incredibly good. Well done ILX, I never noticed I actually kind of disliked the girl (pretty girls can disguise it well obv.)

Yeah but i've gone back to a town where only females are under 18 or the haggard freaks who didn't leave. Have just accepted that until I move back into London, my life will be one lacking decent female company.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone over the age of 18 getting all tizzed-up about pirates or ninjas, talking or dressing as such, is the epitomy of hollow kook...forgive me for disdaining certain student practices but this is one of the most heinous

jordan is also otm, cakes are as prevalent an indiegirl staple as moustaches

cockles (country matters), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

...

I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone over the age of 18 getting all tizzed-up about pirates or ninjas, talking or dressing as such, is the epitomy of hollow kook...forgive me for disdaining certain student practices but this is one of the most heinous

vacuumcleanersolo.mpeg

Results 1 - 1 of 1 for vedderizer. (0.05 seconds) ;_; (jjjusten), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

louis_j@gger_in_a_dress.jpg

Mr. Que, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

her hitler hairdo is making me feel illlll

(phew for a minute there, I turned into Dom Passantino, I turned into Dom Passantino, I turned into Do-o-om)

cockles (country matters), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

wait -- britishes have bible camp?

mookieproof, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

dudes, there are things people do that are stupid but at least fairly original, and then there are joyless cliches

and yeah we got religion here

cockles (country matters), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

wait who has a hitler haircut

Results 1 - 1 of 1 for vedderizer. (0.05 seconds) ;_; (jjjusten), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

really they are severing heads and kicking them around like soccor balls in the finest druidic tradition; "bible camp" is kind of a euphemism

I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

it is quite funny how the lolbritishes triumvirate descended more or less simultaneously, it is as if I have a permanent batmang call going up whenever I post

cockles (country matters), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Rarely. In fact I think she is the only church going person I know, so it didn't seem like the lol america&church-goers situation but just something that intrigued me.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

(intrigued me until i just noticed it was a pointless waste of time and that i didn't care. Still, the girlfriend I had before that decided to break a pool cue over my head, so boring and stable seemed alright.)

a hoy hoy, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link

As this is on ILTMI...dynamite or nay?

cockles (country matters), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

dude

I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

isn't the point of this board voluntary oversharing?

I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oputkAvS8oI

a hoy hoy, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean conversationally. Oral dynamite.

lol ok sorry n/m but I wanted to see how far 'boring and stable' extended itself...'nuff prying

cockles (country matters), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

wait who has a hitler haircut

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Results 1 - 1 of 1 for vedderizer. (0.05 seconds) ;_; (jjjusten), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Hitler?

I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Nah, it's all good. Started kinda awkward and rub, but then we left uni and had to go visit each other in our hometowns where there is nothing to do, it lead to almost day trips of, ahem, dynamite.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

"give me your secular love! mmm! we're making love Michael! making secular love!"

cockles (country matters), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

but it would have to be a lady hitler. a hitlher

Results 1 - 1 of 1 for vedderizer. (0.05 seconds) ;_; (jjjusten), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

post-op Hitler?

I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

actual answer here btw

I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

surely a hitleress

that song was radiohead's despairing, uplifting primal cry against the proliferation of sartorial indie cliche imo

cockles (country matters), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

GIS results for "hitleress" are sorely lacking

Fetchboy, Friday, 7 August 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

despairing AND uplifting. good show.

there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

can one no longer be archly flippant without getting called out for oxymoronic use of adjectives

cockles (country matters), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

thank you dan i seek only enlightenment

Results 1 - 1 of 1 for vedderizer. (0.05 seconds) ;_; (jjjusten), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

it is obvious that lj has killfiled me in a fit of pique

Results 1 - 1 of 1 for vedderizer. (0.05 seconds) ;_; (jjjusten), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway, first half of KP = despairing, second = uplifting (or at least cathartic), to be crude about it

jj i suggested 'hitleress'! i would have answered if dan had not

cockles (country matters), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i cant hear you you have me killfiled

Results 1 - 1 of 1 for vedderizer. (0.05 seconds) ;_; (jjjusten), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

besides, having to explain one's own references is kinda crippling is it not

cockles (country matters), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

is there a noise in here? maybe it is the wind

Results 1 - 1 of 1 for vedderizer. (0.05 seconds) ;_; (jjjusten), Friday, 7 August 2009 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

thread to get over a breakwind

I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Friday, 7 August 2009 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

has there ever been scientific study on why farts and fart jokes are so consistently funny?

Fetchboy, Friday, 7 August 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm still waking up, so I misread your display name as "Felchboy" ...

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 7 August 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

well, when i first started posting however long ago i was "felcher", so it's not completely off the mark.

Fetchboy, Friday, 7 August 2009 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

this latest ILXor breakup has reminded me of the shame I felt when I found out the literary house I lived in in college became home to a pirate a-cappella singing group.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 7 August 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry for bringing back these ghastly memories.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 7 August 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

it happened after I was long gone. While I was there, there were definitely a fair share of nerds and dorks, but they did not promote their dorkitude to the public so intensively. This pirate a-cappella would have public performances and perform at membership recruitment events.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 7 August 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

now that is a shitty breakup

kid cruti (roxymuzak), Sunday, 9 August 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought I felt bad when the house I lived in at college was turned into offices.

tokyo rosemary, Sunday, 9 August 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

ostentatious ... was the word I was trying to think of to describe the dorkitude of the pirate a cappella years.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 13 August 2009 11:23 (fourteen years ago) link

the guy i started the thread about:

just looked at his new band's website, and it says "influences: emily"

:(

in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link

aww

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

kinda creepy

there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

is the band any good?

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

well, kinda

sounds like underworld with ian curtis singing

in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

lol!

in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

dude you broke him

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

i suppose that i influenced him in that i encouraged him to listen to music that was not metal

in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm with elmo ... kinda creepy

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link

in the words of the Mungolian Jet Set... IT'S CREPEY!!!

hüzün (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

oh its definitely creepy

and a little late in the game to be pulling shit like that anyway. its been 8 months dude, get out of the house or something

in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Equal parts creepy and plain lame.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

would it make you feel better if the band was better or worse? I'm trying to think how that would be for me.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I feel way better when creepy exs' bands turn out to be totally lame. Makes me feel more justified in not being with them.

hüzün (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i wish it was worse but it makes me feel pretty good that hes basically just spinning his wheels ripping off things i like

in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

it'd be funny if he broke out with it and you were the kim to his em

goole, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

well not 'funny' but u get me

goole, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

no it'd be pretty funny

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I remember when I discovered an ex was posting bad erotic fiction he had written online ... I felt a) more justified in not being with him and b) better that when I was with him, I was an improving influence, and after I dumped him, he went to shit

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

we should listen to the new band and try to figure out what lyrics are about you

don't try to church it up (nickalicious), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

ha, you started thread to get over a breakup, he started band to get over a breakup

don't try to church it up (nickalicious), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

haha

im ashamed to link you to the site, but one of the songs is definitely about slaying someone and one of the songs definitely says something about knowing a person has a secret

tbh

i actually ran into his bandmate/roommate at the food co-op today, haw! he goes "we're playing the 4th, you should come" and i was like "should i?" and he said "well yeah. you should. or just come early and leave before we play, if you want to avoid...anything...awkward" and i was like "yeah ok, no"

in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

or just come early and leave before we play

i know you probably meant "leave before we finish playing" but lol

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

haha no, he actually said leave before we play believe it or not

in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i think he meant come to see the first band and just hang out with him. hes kind of a pal tbh

in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

okay, him being a pal makes the exchange make sense ... otherwise it was kinda wtf.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

haw, sorry to confuse

in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I totally read it like "oh no, they're going to play like seven songs with "emily" in the title and that's the awkward bit" too :-)

StanM, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

thats still a distinct possibility afaik

in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

definitely don't go

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i dont think i will. i dont want to see dude. havent clamped eyes on him since february

in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

whoa thats pretty much total crepestore right there

please link to them and breathe into a paper bag (jjjusten), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.looptvandfilm.com/blog/joelies.jpg

mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I totally read it like "oh no, they're going to play like seven songs with "emily" in the title and that's the awkward bit" too :-)

have seen this happen (ok it was just one song) and it was really, really awkward not just for the singer/ex, but for everyone else in the room that knew the backstory/that this particular song was about him.

tehresa, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

this will happen as long as people write break-up songs, it is pretty much necessary for music

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

a while back, a couple of friends - who were married - were in a band together, and some of her songs were pretty clearly about problems with their relationship ... they are no longer married.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

damn u knew lindsay and stevie

fleetwood (max), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

that was my first thought 2

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

plenty fish in the sea btw u guys

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

been listening to the mac so much lately been thinking about starting a band with a couple tumultuous couples i know that play music together and like slipping them love potions or something

earthbound & down (nickalicious), Thursday, 20 August 2009 02:56 (fourteen years ago) link

like oops you're all divorced and we just made the most kickass album ever...d'oh

earthbound & down (nickalicious), Thursday, 20 August 2009 02:57 (fourteen years ago) link

uh i play drums obv

earthbound & down (nickalicious), Thursday, 20 August 2009 02:58 (fourteen years ago) link

oh jeez rox

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 20 August 2009 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Ran into the recent EX at lunch and she told me that her "friend" (I suppose she means the other man, the one that she is in love with and broke up with me for) is gonna be in town this weekend. She thought I should know in case I ran into them on the street, so it wouldn't be awkward. Well, it won't be, cuz if I see them, I am turning around and walking far away.

Why couldn't she just use his name, wtf?!
Man, she dumped me over lunch, too. Never eating with this chick again.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 August 2009 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe she feels guity?

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm sure she does, I'm just having a bad week.
It's nice that she told me, I guess, but there's no way the three of us running into each other wouldn't be awkward. I'm a little butthurt over this long-distance relationship blossoming while we were still seeing each other. But the fact is that we needed to break up, so I should just STFU and get over it, I suppose, but it's rarely that easy, is it?

Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 August 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

no, it isn't. Your story reminded me of something that happened to a friend of mine ... he was married for 13 years, and then his wife left him and moved to a different state with a "friend." He later found out from other people (not her) that she was having an affair with this "friend" and not long after the divorce went through, she married this "friend." He ran into her at a show while he was on tour, and the "friend" was there. She introduced the "friend" as her roommate, but she was aware that he was aware of the relationship.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

It's not easy, especially when you know she was falling for somebody else while still seeing you. I've been on the shit end of an identical situation and, well, you're handling it much better than I did.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 20 August 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I think that she was always in love with this guy, is the thing. HURTS.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 August 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i dunno, TM, "my new 'friend' will be in town so don't feel awkward if you see us" is like a sideways brag disguised as a public service announcement.

there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 20 August 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I've been in both positions in that situation, and it's just really shitty.

-- I think the fact that she referred to him euphemistically implies that she isn't bragging.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I think she wants me and the new guy to be friends, or at least friendly.
WAAAAY too soon for anything like that to happen, though. (we dated for two years). Just going to avoid any of the places that they may turn up, which shouldn't be too hard. I've got a date this weekend, too, so that eases the pain a bit.

Thanks for sharing, everyone. It actually helps.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 August 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I think as long as:
1. you've accepted the relationship is over
2. you don't have plans to get revenge
3. not wanting to be unhappy/hurt is a major goal for you

you're on the right path.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

hi hoos' ex!

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

^ this is the dude we named our fish after btw

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha

mookieproof, Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha

young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

hoos' ex i hope you did not undertake the task of renaming aforesaid goldfish lightly...'tis a noble heart you cracked

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

um, if your ex knew about ilxor, that would be post breakup stalking 101

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

my ex found out about ilxor while we were together (by checking her computer history), didn't tell me, and used the fact I'd posted WDYLLs of us together without consulting her as ammunition for my character assassination

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link

was she successful

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

uh, there is much more powerful ammunition here though.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

because you're still a character, imo

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

:D

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

on the day before it all kicked off, I'd been pestering her to send me a couple of pics taken on my final visit, and she did so, as she later admitted, as a 'test'. "sure enough, when i checked an hour later, there it was on WDYLL"

:-/

lol you guys :D

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

uh, my ex harrassed me through ilx and then the guy he cheated on me with decided that he was an ilxor now and was going to be hanging out on the gay thread until me and sur ambushed him and I crashed his portfolio website.

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah ... if she only used the fact you posted pics of her as ammo, then she was probably fairly nice, all considering ...

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link

That was it as far as ILX-related stuff went down (although indirectly not, for my alleged overuse of computers was integral), but man some of the other stuff was purely barbaric imo anyway yeah history lol haha good times

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

need i remind you fellas about the "face is everything" guide to the internet

the moreno you knowshon (omar little), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

lol T, let the sleuthing commence (o-3ss being he who cannot be named right)

yes she did say WDYLL

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

btw my fiancee posted on ilx a couple dozen times, before i ever posted here and before i ever met her and she knows several ilxors (britishes mostly) and a couple of other friends of hers are good friends with ilxors. we had a good lol over that one.

the moreno you knowshon (omar little), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i wonder who IKR's ex was...

the moreno you knowshon (omar little), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

but man some of the other stuff was purely barbaric imo anyway

did she start IRL "Ban [your name]" threads?

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link

She wrote a 5-page denouncement of me and my evils which reflected partially on mistakes I'd made but mostly on the fact she was going through personal hell at that time. She said she's considered posting it to ILX in order to show me up but had refrained at the last minute. She wanted me to take her back but I decided against it. It wasn't a good time for any of us. I'd rather not talk about it any more, save to say that we're both much better now :)

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tbVPpeUUW8

the moreno you knowshon (omar little), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

No I come across really really well in our breakup story mainly due to him setting such a high standard in being a crepey shitbag

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Heh ... one of my college ex-es accused me of being an alcoholic, and got me put on house "probation" ... I recalled his overdue library books ... those were simpler times.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Also couldn't resist sticking the boot in at any point for the next few weeks, guilt-tripping even when I'd evinced more guilt than can be humanly tripped. As recently as May when she had a new man, she came out with lines like "In a way I'm glad I had that with you, because now I know what I don't need". (Yeah, a long-distance relationship in the middle of a fecking PhD)

lol ok that's enough

T, am about to enter yr ex's ilx name with a 'Most Recent' posts search :D

LOL sarahel

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, but lol, he hung around with all these benign "btw i live in paris now" posts (he was doing a short internship but it was practically Tender is the night by his implication)

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

T did you get my message? It's strange sending off a number that can't receive.

― o-3ss, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 10:55 (11 months ago) Bookmark

;_; penultimate post ever

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

it was a joy to go to work at the library at that point to see how much the fines had increased each day. At a certain point, if the fines reached a certain amount, he couldn't check out any more books without returning the overdue ones. I think the guy I broke up with him for (who the ex- was kinda persecuting) hid some of the overdue books, because he had left them lying around a common area.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

RIP

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

it's strange sending off a number that can't receive

^^^^ poetry, real talk, a many-leaved assertion, with many readings

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

sarahelen of troy

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

except our side "won" ... he got kicked out of school for poor academic performance.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

lol@persecuting btw. anyway don't need to be on this thread as this is all long ago and I'm not the one who has made a crepey replica of our relationship with a guy who looks like me.

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

basically it was supposed to be an amicable break up ... which lasted for like 8 hours ...

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

The Oakliad

T what big claws you have! :D

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Uh, that was in Providence, RI

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link

srsly if u only knew

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link

you're Wolverine?

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

subsequent journey to Oakland in order to found [controversial moderator edit] being your subsequent Aeneid

T I am still delving, the bottom will be gotten to

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

something like that ... the moral of the story is that break ups often lead to shitty cruel behavior on all sides.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

also, big wooden horses

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

crying fathers and sulking in tents

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

and Priam gets totally slain

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

having watched his entire family die at the hands of the murderous Greeks

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link

and Brad Pitt in a leather mini-skirt

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link

that movie was not as homoerotic as i was promised btw

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah ... i was disappointed by that, too.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

the tv show Oz is less disappointing in that regard.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i think that's safe to say

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - but in that 5 pages did she compare you to Hitler?

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link

"o-3ss" and "i know, right" are ILX's favourite boybuddies from the emerald isle

― Just got offed, Saturday, 26 July 2008 11:32 (1 year ago) Bookmark

tact, meet LJ

no, not hitler. it was made plain that she still loved me and thus this hurt 70x more than it would otherwise do...the sad thing is that she was 100% sincere and that she really was in a bad state in life, having been 0% up-front about its severity, and thought that this was a way to win me 'back' as a better person while we were separated by 2000 miles anyway it's a lot more complicated than i am making out and it was the first major relationship for us both and we couldn't handle the impossible dilemmas facing us and truly it sucked but i'm damned if i'm repeating those mistakes so let bygones be bygones

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

omg boybuddies? doing my best not to click your links btw

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I got compared to hitler! I forgot the context ... anyway, in retrospect it was quite sad, because he was a genuinely nice, sweet person before, and it was the first "true love" kinda relationship we'd both been in ... and I'm not particularly proud of having been cruel ... though I still think the library books thing is funny.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

was he saying that you were an idealistic painter? that you loved small children and puppies?

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link

that you had a urine fetish regarding your niece?

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm glad i don't know much about hitler now

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it had something to do with house policy and me attempting to make rules to keep the really gross chick he hooked up with as far away from me as possible. All three of us - me, the ex, the new bf - all lived in the same literary house. It eventually got so uncomfortable, I moved out.

oh yeah ... and in retaliation for the hitler comment, the new bf defiled a friend of the ex's kosher cutting board with a bacon cheeseburger ... it's all so petty and juvenile ...

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

these wacky rushmoresque capers are bracing and formative, not crushing and soul-shrinking like a month of 'you made me feel like a whore but i still love you, also i am seriously ill and it is your fault'

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link

truesay that students are the pettiest motherfuckers on god's green earth however...jesus i hate them nowadays

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

(most, not all)

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

that is a lie; i do not hate. cannot hate. feel deeply frustrated by, however, yes.

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:26 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - like gave her herpes ill or mentally ill?

Honestly there was plenty of non-wacky bullying and invective involved in the situation. That part is a less compelling read.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

sarahel if i answer this can you not pry any longer

aggravated severe internal problems she'd been suffering since 16 which required an extra-strength hormone pill and were flaring up wagner's ring-cycle style at exactly this time

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I promise.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I promise.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:39 (fourteen years ago) link

groovy! :)

meanwhile i shall pry myself: Lion, Scarecrow, Tin-Man: A very ILX Summer with the ILX Gays. lol it's this dude isn't it hahaha

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:39 (fourteen years ago) link

it made me really depressed that he was such an arsehole, esp in light of how awesome i am

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 T1arnan tbh, my ILX joining buddy and favourite gay Irish ILXor except d-mac and Ronan lol zing

love how he only joined to stir shit

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean who does that, right?

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link

you are awesome.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link

<3

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link

almost my ex! haha xp

IKR and sarahel, you have both been very tolerant of and responsive to my mammoth late-night posting escapades and you're both considered troo kvlt e-buddies in these quarters...treasure this while it lasts ;)

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - back to the hitler thing ... the new bf was pretty entertained by it, his reponse was "Cool! Does that mean I get to be Goebbels? I'd have a rad art collection!"

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

did he get to be goebbels

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link

in the future, everyone will be Goebbels for 15 minutes

please link to them and breathe into a paper bag (jjjusten), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link

after I graduated, he mounted a putsch and went from being house troublemaker to president ... in revisionist history those were seen as the "dark years" ... after his two years of glory, the pirate acappella people took over, much to our dismay.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

so wait, the pirate acappella people = GDR? seems to fit.

meanwhile, here's some more brilliance from our favourite T1arnan rip-off: Sexual perversion in Ohio

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I probably shouldn't go into further detail ... Hi Dere's former roommate was witness to these proceedings.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link

He was at one point the leader of the metaphorical "weimar republic"

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link

except during the metaphorical "nazi" regime, there was more drinking, dancing, boozing, artiness and homosexuality.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link

was this not the case in the real nazi regime or have i seen too many movies

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link

well, if you look at it from the perspective that the actual nazis sent homosexuals to death camps, and the metaphorical nazi regime of the literary house I lived in in college, encouraged queer students to join - it's kind of the opposite.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link

unless the literary house WAS the death camp

makes you think

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh it sounds like the kind of nazi regime i'd have half bitten my own hand off to have studied under...british university was k-dry in most regards

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

but that would imply that the nazis were killing themselves in death camps ... anyway, it's been well over a decade since all this happened, and I'm pretty sure everyone involved has moved on with their lives and view it as "lol college"

I was kinda jealous that the place got "cool" only after I left, though I was mainly responsible for "new bf" not getting kicked out at the beginning.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link

you were the neville chamberlain of that literary house

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link

no, those would be the people that secretly loathed him, but didn't want to suffer even more heated meetings on the subject of kicking him out.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link

ok john foxx then ;_;

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link

probably closer to Henry Ford ...

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

midge ure = pirate acappella

hey this one actually works

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

The pirate a cappella thing embarrasses me still. I mean it's a combination of two oppressively annoying whimsical things.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link

it's like a perfect storm of student kook...done by AMERICANS

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link

a cappella groups are the bane of the Ivy League ...

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:26 (fourteen years ago) link

my ex found out about ilxor while we were together (by checking her computer history), didn't tell me, and used the fact I'd posted WDYLLs of us together without consulting her as ammunition for my character assassination

― You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:10 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

loooooooooooooooool

butthurt (deej), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:28 (fourteen years ago) link

deej - you're late to the lol here.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link

btw hoos' ex if you are reading this there are salutations buried amid the hidden messages

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link

are we supposed to be encouraging or discouraging hoos' ex from reading?

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i think it is too late for that; we can but soften the blow. hoos' ex you are warmly welcomed to 'thread to get over a breakup'

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Friday, 21 August 2009 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

if she chooses to reopen the thread by now she is probably loling heartily so

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 21 August 2009 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link

well, I've got about 90% of my stuff out of the condo, minus my furniture. looks like this breakup is actually going through.... can't believe I'm actually doing it

mh, Monday, 24 August 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

:(

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 24 August 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

moving the stuff out is the easy part ...

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 24 August 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't remember a single thing about moving out after my last breakup. following month was like a total shellshock, can't remember fuck all of it.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 24 August 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

wouldn't mind, i wasn't even drunk tbh

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 24 August 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm probably going to take another week or so to get picking up the rest scheduled... then there's the fact that she's on my health insurance (as domestic partner), since she has been pretty much jobless since she went on medical leave for mental issues in April. So I still feel like the asshole who's walking out on an ill person, which she had to bring up in the 'official breakup session' we had last Friday. But, as my friends and family keep telling me, there's only so much you can do.

mh, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe I actually need a "thread to complete a breakup" for a while, since I can't actually get over this until all the connections are severed, right?

mh, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

You can, but it takes longer and requires more mental trauma on your part.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link

you're not over someone until you don't hate them any more.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link

if you don't hate them yet: wait

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

We're here to listen, man. <3

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Called my ex to tell her that she hurt me deeply and she apologized. I accepted that and feel better. It is definitely in my best interest to maintain a cordial relationship with this woman because we work in the same building (separated by three floors, but still). Not going to lunch with her anytime soon, still.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Hah, I've already hit an amazing spectrum of emotions in the last few weeks, from frustration to grief to anger and beyond.

fyi, since I only mentioned it briefly elsewhere, this is the girl I have been with almost two years, live with, got engaged to early July (amazingly bad timing and poor decision in retrospect) because I'd decided things were getting much better than they had been, and maybe she was right that it'd make the atmosphere of things better if we knew where things were heading.

Then she pretty much went on vacation, told me I didn't need to mail her her antidepressant when I found it back at home, flipped out right before coming back because she got drunk and kissed some guy while out, after having been off her medication for six days, and then tried to kill herself in front of me in the living room when I woke up late the night she got back.

good times, I tell you what

mh, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Jesus that sounds awful. :-(

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

oh yeah, and my huge year-long project at work goes live in a week. I am so very thankful for great friends and family right now.

mh, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

"Grief Anger and Beyond" is the worst place I have ever shopped for home accessories, by far.

Anyway, the lesson here is to stay on your meds, kids. Nothing but empathy for you now, mh.

or have I become completely absurd? (kenan), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 07:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, tell me if there is a shred of truth in this theory/observation:

I ran into a friend of mine at a show the other night, who had broken up with his girlfriend of 10+ years a few months ago. He was now sporting a relatively scraggly beard, while when they were together, he was generally clean-shaven. I'm thinking that with a number of guys, the sloppy beard is a stage in the post-break-up process. It seems to come at some point when the guy has accepted his singleness and is trying to make the best of it, and isn't quite ready to be in another serious relationship.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 09:20 (fourteen years ago) link

There may be something to that, but in all probability it's because shaving your face is totally inconvenient.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 27 August 2009 09:43 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, rather than being a 'post break up phase', scraggliness is more of a 'i'm glad i don't need to do this any more' thing.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 10:08 (fourteen years ago) link

well, in the theory of it being a post break up phase it would begin in the "depression" stage and continue into "acceptance"

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 10:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought scraggly beards were the in thing this year? Maybe he was just looking to hook up with indie hipster girls?

Tuncay Stryder (Matt DC), Thursday, 27 August 2009 10:17 (fourteen years ago) link

it would begin in the "depression" stage and continue into "acceptance"

yeah, acceptance that mach 3 blades cost a fucking bomb

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 10:24 (fourteen years ago) link

lool. i grew my beard in the wake of an unpleasant breakup and never bothered shaving it off again

king boy pamito (electricsound), Thursday, 27 August 2009 10:43 (fourteen years ago) link

thing is, on most guys the unkempt beard is just not a good look.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 10:44 (fourteen years ago) link

i carry it beautifully, tbh. hides three of my chins, and most of my pimples

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 10:46 (fourteen years ago) link

in fact i only shave to drive unwelcome girlfriends away

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 10:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Scraggly beard = TEH CUTE

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/59740272_23e1fad288_o.jpg

but I fully admit that might be an indie hipster

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 27 August 2009 10:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i stopped shaving after i broke up w/ my girl, and then we got back together, but i didnt start shaving again

fleetwood (max), Thursday, 27 August 2009 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link

nice.

Shakim O'Collier (kingkongvsgodzilla), Thursday, 27 August 2009 12:07 (fourteen years ago) link

that put her in her place. kinda like a permanent facial yellow card for her.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 12:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i kept it because she said she liked it

fleetwood (max), Thursday, 27 August 2009 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link

hey, i'm in fashion?

#/.'#/'@ilikecats (g-kit), Thursday, 27 August 2009 12:23 (fourteen years ago) link

losin faith in you max.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 12:26 (fourteen years ago) link

i've had a beard for like 6 years and every girl i've dated approved of it.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 August 2009 12:28 (fourteen years ago) link

well, obviously?

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link

:)

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link

lol yes i see yr point but it's not like i was going to get rid of it for someone who didn't approve--would have just assumed we were not compatible.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 August 2009 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link

rare to see such commitment to a facial hair arrangement, i commend you tbh

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 12:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I once shaved off my facial hair following a breakup and stayed clean-shaven for a number of months, but that was mostly because I needed some change.

mh, Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link

i have always said that if i hit rock bottom i am going with a mustache

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:29 (fourteen years ago) link

that's what i normally assume about any dude i see with a moustache, tbh

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahah

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I once stopped shaving my armpits but that was not because of a breakup. In fact, it was due to the encouragement of my bf at the time! Sorry, that has nothing to do with any of this I guess.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link

lol no we can def. take this in the direction of "things you haven't shaved"

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm gonna need to start a thread to get over the 'thread to get over a breakup' thread

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post - You guys think shaving is such a pain the ass but you have no idea. The armpit thing was completely awesmoe tbh since I'm not really hairy but iirc I started shaving again in the summer just cause well sleeveless tops and all. Legs are a different story. I am sort of weirdly obsessed with shaving my legs. #529 Things you really didn't need to know about me!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

awesmoe!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i approve of hairy armpits on girls if they want but yeah smooth legs for real.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

You guys think shaving is such a pain the ass but you have no idea

confused, tbh

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

i think e is saying that girls do a lot more shaving?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah sorry, that's what I meant.

Things I have done to myself after a breakup include drastic changes to my hair and getting something pierced.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

ha - also tattoo

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i think e is saying that girls do a lot more shaving?

what, every morning?

nothing is as unpleasant to shave as an adam's apple, in any case.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Uh maybe not every morning (every other tbh) but there are more parts of the body and a larger surface area that needs to be tended to for girls.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link

assuming two things:

(i) girls bother their arses
(ii) guys don't

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

regarding part (i)

i'm irish, btw

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe it's just me, but if a guy has a beard, it makes certain activities itchy and uncomfortable.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Certain activities?

Stubble, yes.

A full beard? No. In fact my former bearded partner totally converted me to the joys of beardy men.

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 27 August 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I must just have pretty sensitive skin ... my bf used to have a beard - well maintained - when we started dating, and it was itchy when kissing, etc.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Aww, I used to really like kissing his beard. I used to play with it when I was bored. And rub my fingers up it the wrong way to annoy him like a cat. It was very soft.

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

did he respond like a cat?

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, he used to make sort of dog-noises.

Aww, now I'm feeling all nostalgic and I don't want to be. Boys are icky.

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

if we as a society return to the clean shaven is the norm mentality im just going to hang it up and go live under a bridge somewhere.

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I was only questioning why guys who were clean shaven when in relationships grow beards after they break up.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

they are free

the people vs peer gynt (goole), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

do these guys feel more attractive with the beard or less, or is the common sentiment, "I don't give a shit what I look like. Fuck shaving!"

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

because some ~harpy~ isn't trying to CHANGE them anymore

crabRCISE (gbx), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

i will ask them and get back to you xpost

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

gbx otm

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFmMGYv3mag

crabRCISE (gbx), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

"fuck shaving" ftw

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

ironically enough, when my bf shaved his beard, I was freaked out at first. I thought it was a sign of something bad.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

if you listened closely you would have been able to hear a tiny cracking sound. that was his spirit being broken.

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Uh, no.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

rip dude's beard

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I feel these four walls closing in
Face up against the glass
I'm looking out, hmmm
Is this my life I'm wondering
It happened so fast
How do I turn this thing around
Is this the bed I chose to make
It's greener pastures I'm thinking about
Hmm, wide open spaces far away

All I want is the wind in my hair
To face the fear but not feel scared

Ooh, wild horses I wanna be like you
Throwing caution to the wind, I'll run free too
Wish I could recklessly love like I'm longing to
I wanna run with the wild horses
Run with the wild horses, oh

Yeah, oh oh, ye-yeah

I see the dude I wanna be
Riding bare-back, care-free
Along the shore
If only that someone was me
Jumping head-first, head-long
Without a thought
To act and damn the consequence
How I wish it could be that easy
But fear surrounds me like a fence
I wanna break free

All I want is the wind in my hair
To face the fear, but not feel scared

Oooh, wild horses I wanna be like you
Throwing caution to the wind, I'll run free too
Wish I could recklessly love like I'm longing to
I wanna run with the wild horses
Run with the wild horses, oh

I wanna run too
Oooh oh oh oh
Recklessly emboundening myself before you
I wanna open up my heart
Tell him how I feel, ooh ooh

Oooh, wild horses I wanna be like you
Throwing caution to the wind, I'll run free too
Wish I could recklessly love like I'm longing to
I wanna run with the wild horses
Run with the wild horses
Run with the wild horses

Ooh ooooh ooh ooh ye-yeah yeah oohh
I wanna run with the wild horses, ooooh

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, he just got tired of the maintenance ... it looked good btw.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

wait he got tired of the maintenance of not shaving

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

"tired of the maintenance" is what he told you btw--he still sees the dude he wants to be riding bareback from time to time

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

lol hi dere that is crazy

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.bikerumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/beard-lift-bicycle1.jpg

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

"god i am so tired of waking up every day and remembering not to shave"

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

"when will this madness end?"

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, he had a pretty well-maintained goatee ... it was the same logic that lead balding guys to just shave it all off, rather than trying to keep up "the haircut"

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

beard blowing in the wind, squinting at the horizon, thoughts of bear pelts and mountain streams and two chicks at the same time

crabRCISE (gbx), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

scraping your face every day with a blade vs. a twice a week trim with a nice pair of scissors.

hmmmmmmm. . . . .

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

it wasn't like he didn't have to shave ... there were just certain parts that he trimmed and didn't shave.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh god take it to... oh shi--

the people vs peer gynt (goole), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I like scruff better than full beards but they're both pretty good imo. Goatees, on the other hand, I am generally not at all OK with.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

a well-maintained goatee is just an indication that you want a beard but you do not understand them at all

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ booo

I have a set of penises leftover from some bach party somewhere (HI DERE), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

(altho I haven't shaved in 5 days, lol)

I have a set of penises leftover from some bach party somewhere (HI DERE), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - He had one back when it was the facial hair trend (mid-late 90s)

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

not shaving is so awesome

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

well-maintained is the key aspect here dan you are in the clear

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

a well-maintained goatee is just an indication that you want a beard but you do not understand them at all

― A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:41 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

see i'm just like shit or get off the pot

crabRCISE (gbx), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

DP not ALL goatees are bad . . . just most. I am sure yours OK.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Last week, I knew I had to trim when a hair started tickling my nose and it was from under my lower lip; I don't think my college friend would have forgiven me for showing up to her wedding with the burgeoning Tank Abbott goatee I was sporting.

I have a set of penises leftover from some bach party somewhere (HI DERE), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

xp jj: He didn't want a full beard because of the church he was raised in ...

he didn't want to look like this dude:
http://www.ldsces.org/inst_manuals/chft/images/29-04.gif

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

that dude is awesome^^^^^

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

she would have if she was a dude willing to celebrate your personal freedoms like a true american xxxpost to dan

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

the one on the right, obviously has to shave and not just trim.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, the dude on the right looks like his younger brother.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I was not playing around with this lady, she missed making the US rowing team by .02 of a second and can easily kick my ass.

I have a set of penises leftover from some bach party somewhere (HI DERE), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

see now first he was bearded and then he was simply wearing his carefully trimmed goatee as was the style of the time and now he was trying to escape his oppressive religious upbringing through facial hair reassignment and i just dont know what to believe anymore xposts

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

well maybe she should just row until she understands the rights guaranteed to you by the first amendment then

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

ruh-row

the people vs peer gynt (goole), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I will suggest that to her when she gets back from Italy!

I have a set of penises leftover from some bach party somewhere (HI DERE), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link

he had a goatee, which is a type of beard ... he did not have a full beard because of the old school Mormon connotations ... he had to shave either way. It was just more convenient to have removal of all facial hair as a goal, rather than shaving + trimming + shaping.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link

still think he's confused

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

he should just go full on Momo

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

the LDS will do that :-/

crabRCISE (gbx), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

you spelled LSD wrong

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.lowculture.com/archives/beard.jpg

yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

I have a set of penises leftover from some bach party somewhere (HI DERE), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

http://thechive.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/funn-big-crazy-mustache-16.jpg

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

on the other hand, if a dude has a weak chin, he should grow a beard.

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

what, pray tell, is a weak chin?

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

or wear a mask xpost

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe just never go outside actually

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.womenrepublic.co.uk/usw/97chinimplant95.jpg

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

weak/recessed chin before and after implant ^^

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

weak chin:
http://www.drpetmecky.com/proceedures/chinneck/pg2p2a.jpg

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't believe I ever thought ZB was remotely attractive. What a weird looking bastard.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

no, that is strong jowl

xp2

the people vs peer gynt (goole), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

what's the difference between a "weak chin" and a "turkey neck"

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

rat-face

crabRCISE (gbx), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Weak chin is structural and has to do with actual bones etc. whereas turkey neck is just loose skin. I think.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

AMERICAN HERO

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

goole stole my post

permanent response lopp (harbl), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

jesus

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - lots of caricatures of upper class british men feature weak chins. The turkey neck is often something men get when they get old.

xp - gummo kid is classic weak chin example

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

gonna barf

the people vs peer gynt (goole), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

ban jjusten

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

that looks like a penis is taking off from his face

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Hmmm, that before/after picture makes me realize: a friend of mine often complains about her "double chin," but she's not fat in the slightest, and now I think maybe she just has a weak chin that unfortunately accentuates the flesh underneath?

jaymc, Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

holy wow

I have a set of penises leftover from some bach party somewhere (HI DERE), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - the cousin/nephew in the movie "The Ruling Class" is another prime example

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I saw a guy with the douchiest facial hair the other day. There were three stripes shaved on each cheek. It was awful.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link

guys with facial hair that look like athletic footwear designs ...

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

WORSE

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

IMPOSSIBLE

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

how high up on the cheek?

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

No seriously. It was BAD. If I hadn't been driving I would have figured out some way to take a picture. You would have to see it to believe it.

Hmmm probably about as high as a guy's hair grows on the cheek?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i was just thinking about Michael Sembello. He's on an island somewhere with John Parr isn't he?

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

lol @ "i was just thinking about Michael Sembello"

the people vs peer gynt (goole), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post - Hmmmmm. Was def sideways like MS.

Who the hell is this fascinating man btw? The beard, the hair (is that a braid?!) the jacket/glove combo . . . it's almost too much for me to take in at once. Delicious.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

he's a Maniac

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

he's a maniac, a maniac on the floor ...

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

he's got this friend, she's dancing. . . like she's never danced before

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

HAHAHAHA awesome.

(btw re JP Man in Motion is one of my favorite songs of all time - seriously)

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

A Spiritual Journey With Michael Sembello

the people vs peer gynt (goole), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.michaelsembello.com/

the people vs peer gynt (goole), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

there was one other dude on that island, not Cory Hart, but someone else. . .

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post Oh god thank you. I predict that thread and website will bring me much joy and wonderment later this evening.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Two different people love for an instant

They say that the circus left today

Sometimes I hear the colaipy and I can hear her calling me

(Chorus Out)

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

is that how it goes?

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

that chicks chin implant A+++

Hillary had Everest in his veins (sunny successor), Friday, 28 August 2009 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link

is it just me, or does it also look like she had her nose done, too?

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Friday, 28 August 2009 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought that at first too but i think its the same

Hillary had Everest in his veins (sunny successor), Friday, 28 August 2009 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link

oh wait the bump has gone. def nose job.

Hillary had Everest in his veins (sunny successor), Friday, 28 August 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

xp -I don't think it's the same, it's beakier in the first pic

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Friday, 28 August 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

im pretty sure a little lipo too

Hillary had Everest in his veins (sunny successor), Friday, 28 August 2009 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I was only questioning why guys who were clean shaven when in relationships grow beards after they break up.

probably just because they are bummed out and don't have the energy to bother shaving

mookieproof, Friday, 28 August 2009 08:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Same reason you dye your hair pink when you feel you need a change. Only slower.

or have I become completely absurd? (kenan), Friday, 28 August 2009 09:42 (fourteen years ago) link

xposts There's no question that she had her nose and probably some other stuff done too, yeah.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 28 August 2009 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I think the attitude that goes with random shaving patterns (or post-breakup beard growth) is more important than the actual beard. Then again, I decided to do a complete clean shave this morning, so what do I know?

My breakup official crossed into the MONEY ISSUES frontier yesterday. I keep thinking that I am being a jackass for one reason or another, but IM conversations with the shared friend that she always referred to as her "best friend" have made me feel particularly better.

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

o don't go there, unless it's expressly for revenge

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Friday, 28 August 2009 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Go where? Basically it's a matter of solving some "who takes what" issues (anything we bought for the place stays with the place, imo), a couple minor home/car repairs which I would gladly pay to have done (still) and when I'm able to remove her from my insurance. The ISSUE was that I feel that I'm owed money. Coming at me with "you need to pay for this" and then saying "oh, the money I said I'd pay you back, that's null and void because you broke up with me" isn't really kosher.

As for talking to the shared friend, I've basically just been bouncing "hey, this is what I'm being told, am I being unreasonable for asking about this?" type of questions. A little bit of crankiness too, but the friend has certainly witnessed enough to know where I'm coming from. Yeah, I should not drag a friend into it, if that's what you mean, but I'm not trying to kill their friendship or throw blame, just kind of trying to keep things straight.

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link

oh, i thought there was a possibility of a 'thing' with shared friend, but my bad.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Friday, 28 August 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

ps unless we're talking huge money that you can't afford, my advice is walk away from the money issues.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Friday, 28 August 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, agreed. I just feel there's enough crap hanging over that I should be able to walk away. If she thinks I really need to take care of these things monetarily, then fine, have an estimate done or get it repaired and send me the bill. At this point, I just kind of feel like I have been supportive financially and emotionally for a long time, so sweating the small shit just seems petty to me.

Most definitely not a thing with our friend, we actually stayed with her and her boyfriend at their place. I was friends with her before this thing, and I hope to be friends long after. Very grateful on that.

There's also this "who keeps the engagement ring" thing, which I should just probably write off.

We basically had two big discussions around the time we were working out long-term plans / getting engaged where I said exactly what I didn't want: to be responsible for her behavior when drunk when she expected me to be some kind of caretaker; that I did not feel comfortable with her making threats against her own well-being and would treat those seriously, even if she did not feel they were serious; and that she needed to be responsible for taking care of her own affairs, or responsible for asking for help if she was unable to. Basically she went off the rails, acted completely irresponsible, wanted instant forgiveness for her drunk behavior when I wasn't even there, neglected her own medication, and actually made an attempt on her life. I think that's the deal broken about four ways.

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

There's also this "who keeps the engagement ring" thing, which I should just probably write off.

I believe that generally speaking the engagement ring is seen as a contract of sorts and that she is really supposed to give it back.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

OK here you go . . .

The majority of courts consider an engagement ring to be a "conditional gift." A conditional gift is one in which some future event must occur in order to finalize the gift. In most cases, courts consider the wedding itself to be the future event that must occur in order to finalize the gift of the engagement ring. If the wedding does not take place, if the engagement is broken, the gift does not get finalized, and thus the ring reverts back to the gift-giver. In other words, the ring must be returned.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Only if the woman breaks off the engagement. If the man breaks it off, the woman is traditionally entitled to keep the ring.

x-post

miss manners, Friday, 28 August 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Not anymore!! See above. That is how it is often viewed legally regardless of who breaks the engagement these days.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

As for one of the "repair" things -- it was the only time in my life I can remember that I ended up damaging something due to anger.

She has this point where she will be upset about something and throw a temper tantrum. She was working on sewing something that she had an actual deadline for, and her sewing machine broke. She basically started crying and raging, and I asked what I could do to help. She ended up yelling at me, and locking herself in the bathroom. She has a great habit of alternatively screaming "you don't even care" punctuated by "you're not helping!" So I was in the bedroom, outside the bathroom door, calling friends and family and leaving messages asking if I could borrow a sewing machine for her. Really. So finally, I ask if we can go somewhere and look at a new one, and the shouting about my unhelpfulness continued.

At this point, I am specifically saying I would directly fix the issue. So when she screamed again, I kicked the door and my foot broke through the panel. Still ashamed to type this, feel like a jerk for reacting like that. What did we do after this? I drove her to a store where I paid for a brand new $400 sewing machine.

And so, the door is what I am apparently supposed to repair.

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

IMO, she broke off the engagement when she did all the things I said would end the relationship. But seriously, if she wants to walk around wearing a nice engagement ring and being creepy, right now I'd say she can go for it.

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm feeling more and more like a moron for EVER caring at this point, because I just feel like I've been played by my emotions for the past year

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd sell the ring and pay for the monetary stuff with the proceeds, or tell her she can either get $$$ or the ring but not both; I am certain that the ring is worth more than whatever you owe her.

I have a set of penises leftover from some bach party somewhere (HI DERE), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post Oh wait - you may be right about the guy breaking engagement girl keeps ring thing. Anyway, Who cares? If it's that much of an issue and you can't agree then just sell the damn thing and split the money.

Uh MH - this lady sounds like um . . . a handful. I think not marrying her is probably going to turn out to be one of the best decisions you ever make tbh.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm feeling more and more like a moron for EVER caring at this point, because I just feel like I've been played by my emotions for the past year

― mh, Friday, August 28, 2009 11:16 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

i have to say the scenaria you have laid out here sound very close to extortion.

the people vs peer gynt (goole), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd sell the ring and pay for the monetary stuff with the proceeds

Just a warning, trying to sell engagement rings these days will get you pretty much nothing.

Shakim O'Collier (kingkongvsgodzilla), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Anybody who has to go to the courts to resolve enagement ring issues is a horrible vulgarian.

repeating cycles of smoking and cruelty (Michael White), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Good point.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

when dealing with money issues and a bad ex situation, i have learned to ask, "how much would i pay to get out of this completely?" the answer is usually somewhere close to the amount i think i'm owed, tbh. but i've never given anybody a ring...

the people vs peer gynt (goole), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

that's a little racist

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Michael White is so completely on the mark. I just got a call from her mom, who said that she heard I wanted to talk to her. Actually, what I'd said was that if we needed to discuss financial issues or anything that needs a good objective grounding, I would like a third party there, and I'd find her parents acceptable. I think I'm being fair, or even giving her more than what's fair here because I want her to keep in therapy and not get knocked completely off her feet, so I don't mind if they'd be a little bit partial to her needs.

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

OK this whole thing sounds like a complete nightmare. Cut your loses and run. Seriously.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

losses, oops

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

conan the vulgarian

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

my sister-in-law was engaged to some guy before my bro. somehow it fell through so she sold the ring and took a bunch of her friends on the already booked honeymoon.

i have known guys who have taken out a loan to buy a ridiculously expensve engagement ring. id probably feel inclined to give it back if he was still making payments unless he did something really shitty to break the engagement in which case id be happy for him to remember every month when the bill arrives.

Hillary had Everest in his veins (sunny successor), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

unless you're talking about an arranged marriage i do not understand why people still go through an engagement step on the way to marriage. it just seems so antiquated and bizarre to me.

velko, Friday, 28 August 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't either tbh but if he hadn't gone through that step they would be married already. broken engagement > divorce for sure

permanent response lopp (harbl), Friday, 28 August 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

like 99 percent of the marriage process is stuff that is not necessary or or stuff that doesn't make sense anymore but it's done because of tradition. the whole deal is very traditional. those aspects aren't for everybody but sometimes doing something for the sake of tradition is nice.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 28 August 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I kind of felt the same way, but I also got a lot of pushback that serious examination of issues would only happen after engagement. GUESS WHAT!

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

There was this weird point that was probably miscommunicated where I was trying to get a relationship counseling-type of thing going back in January or February, but what her psychologist parents supposedly said (which I now think is probably not what they really said) was that that sort of thing isn't very common and pre-marriage counseling was the way to go.

I have mentioned many times here that I was a moron and really wanted to love this girl, right?

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

fatal error imo

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Friday, 28 August 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

emotional detachment is the only way to approach marriage :(

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Friday, 28 August 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

ur not a moron, stuff happens

permanent response lopp (harbl), Friday, 28 August 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post Agreed, and I think a part of me always knew something like this would happen, I just wanted to believe.

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

i was actually saying what harbl said, tbh

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Friday, 28 August 2009 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

There was this weird point that was probably miscommunicated where I was trying to get a relationship counseling-type of thing going back in January or February, but what her psychologist parents supposedly said (which I now think is probably not what they really said) was that that sort of thing isn't very common and pre-marriage counseling was the way to go.

I can believe that her parents said that but, if they knew the problems their daughter was having, I can also believe that the part where they said "but you really need some heavy-duty counseling" was left out when the story was retold to you.

I have a set of penises leftover from some bach party somewhere (HI DERE), Friday, 28 August 2009 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

darraghmac i'm trying to figure out if you were kidding

the people vs peer gynt (goole), Friday, 28 August 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Dan, I don't think they really had a clue of the full picture. I was probably the only one who saw her in every state she'd go through, and that world is one I no longer want to live in.

Did I also mention several times she mentioned things to me where she made it clear she had never told anyone else in the world outside of one friend? Like, traumatic things that happened in early college that she never sought therapy for and did a lot of self-blaming for years.

Thanks for the feedback so far guys, this is a load off of my mind

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

i was half kidding, half wistful, i think,

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Friday, 28 August 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

you're right though, part of it is "how much do I love this person, and do I want to be with them?" and then rationally you have to think "will I be alive in ten years if I go with this course of action?"

well, maybe not that dire, but you get the drift

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

MH, you seem like a decent guy who's been through a really difficult and heartbreaking situation, and more than anything, your emotional pain at this breakup comes through. You are obviously really hurting and my heart goes out to you.

It's just really difficult for me to read this, being that I am a woman who has suffered from mental illness my entire life - and has been through utterly gutting breakups where my mental illness has been cited as a "cause" for the breakup. (in cases that completely ignored other glaring issues in the relationship which caused it to fracture.)

So it's really difficult for me to read about your breakup and not see it through the lens of mine own.

I'm not trying to excuse someone who is acting in a way that seems abhorrent or inexcusable to you. I'm just saying that it's a little more complicated than someone "playing you". Unless you've actually experienced mental illness firsthand, it's quite difficult to understand how it can make people that you love behave the way that they do. It's not always a question of being willfully awful (*especially* in the case of someone who has come off medication - you're not just dealing with someone facing the recurrence of mental illness, but withdrawal symptoms that can often be more bizarre and extreme than the illness itself.)

However, as someone who's been on the other side, as well - and attempted to have a relationship with another person whose mental problems made it impossible to have any kind of meaningful relationship with them - there is a point where you have to decide if you can take this person, warts and all, or if you can not.

There's only one person who can answer that question.

(My own personal take on that is that I am willing to go there for someone who on the whole is willing to work with their illness, and attempt (doesn't always have to be successful, but the trying is the main part) to keep their head above the waters. I am not willing to go there for someone who denies their illness, or insists they don't have a problem, or, the very worst, those who use their illness as some kind of "get out of trouble free" card.)

I apologise in advance for the ways in which this post will be misinterpreted, but I didn't just want to not say anything.

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Saturday, 29 August 2009 11:02 (fourteen years ago) link

No, you are completely in the right, Kate. I'm sorry I phrased it that I felt "played," but I mean that not necessarily that I was being played by her as much as I was by the illness. And for what it's worth, we had a lot of differences that I think would have made things fall apart in a number of years, from kids to employment to religion. To be honest, I think the illness made me stick in for things longer, because I kept being told that if we did one more thing, then the situation would be better. Which it never was, no matter what the thing was.

The illness itself was never a reason to leave, but her lack of managing it was what finally opened my eyes.

I've had a pretty traumatic weekend, in that I made some poor decisions on Friday night that I will have to deal with for some time, but none of them were relationship-oriented, luckily. But I ran into our friend A. who is getting married in about a month and what she said will stick with me for some time. She told me that she's supposed to hate me, blame me, etc. as a friend of my ex, but she doesn't. She thinks I made the right decision and she wishes the best. It's one of those things where I might be losing something, but possibly a lot less than I thought.

mh, Monday, 31 August 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link

We re-broke up, this time permanently, and certainly for the best for both of us. We had a good run and I have no regrets. He is very upset but I hope that in time I will be at least an 85% positive memory.

Saw him last night for the first time since breakup (a week ago). Seeing as how he was standing alone and had gotten some kinda haircut, I talked to him and at one point made a comment about the cut and kinda patted/noogied his head.

A few minutes later he sent me this text: "I don't mind talking and hanging, but could you not scruff my hair. That burns tbh."

Wow

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Friday, 4 September 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

lol baby

velko, Friday, 4 September 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

"lol baby" is amazingly otm, and a tangy phrase to boot. "lol baby" could be a nickname. if I were to write a book about our relationship it would be titled "lol baby."

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Friday, 4 September 2009 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

relationships are hard

caek, Friday, 4 September 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

nah

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Friday, 4 September 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

<3

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 September 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

<3

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Friday, 4 September 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

aww

carne asada, Friday, 4 September 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

A few minutes later he sent me this text: "I don't mind talking and hanging, but could you not scruff my hair. That burns tbh."

Baby, baby, baby

Your hand is like a torch
Each time you touch me
And that look in, in your eyes
It just tears me apart

But please don't open
The door to Heaven
If I can't, if I can't come in

Oh, don't touch me
If you don't love me
Don't do it, sweetheart

Don't give me something
That you might soon
Soon take away, baby
To have you and then lose you
That wouldn't be smart on my part

Oh, baby, baby
Don't open the door to Heaven
If you won't, if you won't let me in
And please don't touch me
Unless you love me, sweetheart

Oh, please don't touch me
Unless you love me
Don't do it, sweetheart

tehresa, Friday, 4 September 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link

after this occurence and some hearsay i am happy to never lay a finger on this chap again

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Friday, 4 September 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Stickin it to em.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 5 September 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link

there wont be any of that either

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Saturday, 5 September 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link

curious about the hearsay tbh

velko, Saturday, 5 September 2009 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link

tbhq

bamcquern, Saturday, 5 September 2009 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Breaking up is rarely easy. Unless it's amicable, there is generally a feeling of devastation on one side, while the initiating party feels relief. It's undeniable that break-ups suck, but there are ways to make them more bearable. Keep reading to get your heart healing.

* Leave your pity party early.

That's right. It's your party, but that's enough crying. Time to call it a night. Put away the photo albums, stash the Ben & Jerry's back in the freezer, and shut off those sappy 80s love ballads (this is actually for everyone's benefit.) These are necessary steps to take in moving on. No one is going to want to date someone who has pictures of their ex, covered in tears and melted ice cream, scattered across their bed.

* Don't be a stalker.

It's easy to keep track of what your ex is doing in this age of technology. However, desperate text messages after a night of drinking aren't going to make you seem desirable, just pathetic. In fact, the iPhone even has an application just for you drunk dialers that will block someone's number for a certain amount of time, so use it to your benefit if you can't keep your fingers on good behavoir. Oh yeah, and get off their Facebook. Knowing what they did over the weekend isn't as gratifying when you have to creep through their pictures to figure it out.

* Work on moving on.

Breaking up doesn't have to be such a negative situation. Instead, focus on the positive. You can try something new your partner wasn't into, such as yoga, or even a different type of cuisine. Do your best to find out who you are without your previous "other half." Maybe he or she didn't like the club scene, so go out dancing with some friends, and look smoking hot doing it. Treat yourself to a makeover and emerge on the dating scene as a newly single twentysomething on the prowl. Rawr!

velko, Sunday, 6 September 2009 03:57 (fourteen years ago) link

haha ^^^ i just now sent the guy i started this thread about an email to gloat that i got a voice message from bill steer

chump

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Sunday, 6 September 2009 23:51 (fourteen years ago) link

(i meant him, but it can just as easily apply to me now)

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Sunday, 6 September 2009 23:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i misread that as you sent the guy you started this thread about a copy of this thread ...

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Monday, 7 September 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

today's music listening reminds me that I missed the ghostface/raekwon set at a music festival because she was getting heat stroke from drinking too much beer and sleeping in the sun on a humid-ass day

so it goes

mh, Thursday, 10 September 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

most recent breakup here ^^^ just texted me and called me a cunt

o_O O_o

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 06:45 (fourteen years ago) link

aw fuck that nonsense.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 September 2009 09:29 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, now i can really dig in here.

amazingly selfish, self-centered, immature, cowardly and dramatic. you solipsistic little pussy. make least effort demand most credit type of guy. 99% of your friends are realllllllly dumb. you said something like "i became obsessed with the freak-folk movement" and i was so embarassed for you i wanted to fall through the floor. you want a medal for listening to, like, 2 rap artists (kanye and weezy, hahahaha). your music sucks and you sing like conor oberst, i encouraged and tried to help you anyway because i loved and cared about you. any time you had my back it was just to show off that you had my back, not because you gave a fuck about anything. you talked and talked and talked and talked and never listened. why listen or inquire when you (wrongly) presume to already have the other person's number on everything? you actually once argued that it is ok to yell "slut" at stranger girls in a bar if they are "dressed slutty," hahaha good luck in your women's studies classes, prick. you think it is a fresh bold and exciting stance to be skeptical of pitchforkmedia. YOU THOUGHT I WAS CHEATING ON YOU WITH YOUR GAY BEST FRIEND. "im not liberal or conservative," ugh.

above all, you called me a "cunt" in a text message?!

"im a pretty misogynistic guy, and i've NEVER done that." - a pal

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 10:24 (fourteen years ago) link

sayonara, flatlander

http://randazza.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/middle-finger.jpg

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 10:26 (fourteen years ago) link

ur not gonna fit all that into 1 text, just sayin

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 September 2009 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link

i fit it into a phone call

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 10:52 (fourteen years ago) link

feelin pretty good tbh

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 10:52 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 all power to your arm roxy...if there's one question tho it's how do you end up with all these jerkstores in the first place??

alien vs the smiths (country matters), Monday, 14 September 2009 10:54 (fourteen years ago) link

(LJ making a smooooth move imo)

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 September 2009 10:58 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha nay it is genuine curiosity, maybe there is something about a dude soulfully gettin into his own choons which can tweak the heart of any lady

alien vs the smiths (country matters), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link

roxy, the last thing you need right now is to be alone. i'm coming over.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I never understood folks who text/email/whatever this sort of nasty bullshit after a breakup... What do they get from it, does it make them feel a better person somehow? After you broke up it's time to pick up the pieces and move on, not dwell on some pointless anger towards the other person. Sending text messages like this only proves the other person was right in breaking up with you.

Tuomas, Monday, 14 September 2009 11:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i'd only send the message to an ex's new partner, tbh.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, I can kinda understand it (even if I don't think it's right) if the other person would have done some fucked-up shit to cause the breakup, but clearly that's not the case here.

(x-post)

Tuomas, Monday, 14 September 2009 11:14 (fourteen years ago) link

It's just a way of venting anger, really. Plus in 9/10 of cases, drink n dial is the culprit.

girls just wanna have mixtapes (Masonic Boom), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:17 (fourteen years ago) link

photographic memory for numbers doesn't help. you can't even delete the entry on your phone.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha, whenever I've drunk dialed/texted exes, it's just been a pathetic attempt to get some warmth and sex. Maybe I've been lucky though, all my breakups have been pretty clean and civilized. Of course there's been tears and drama like that, but never anything nasty or mean from either party.

Tuomas, Monday, 14 September 2009 11:25 (fourteen years ago) link

you're not doing it right

caek, Monday, 14 September 2009 11:27 (fourteen years ago) link

was gonna say.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:28 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh it's been almost a month and everything was fine and friendly until today/tihs morning

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:33 (fourteen years ago) link

ive had lots of nice BFs too -- they arent really the kind you post about in a thread like this imo

also, you only post about bad things in this thread, so, grain of salt

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, as none of my partners has ever done something awful enough to me to cause such a reaction, and as far as I know I haven't done that sort of thing to anyone either. At least no one has ever sent me a text message like that. Am I missing something? A couple exes have cut all contact with me, but that's perfectly understandable.

(xx-post)

Tuomas, Monday, 14 September 2009 11:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i think some of them logged on to SB you that time tuomas :(

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:38 (fourteen years ago) link

for example no one ive ever dated has ever complimented my looks/told me i was beautiful as much as this guy, he took care of me when i was sick, sleeping beside him was amazingly comfortable, he played with my cat in a really cute way, he shared my affection for the smoky mountains, sex was awesome, and even when his taste was questionable or teenagery he without question loved music passionately and his verve for it was very pretty infectious. that's not the type of stuff that typically makes the thread, but im putting it here in the interest of fairness and trust me it took all my scientific integrity

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:39 (fourteen years ago) link

he sounds like a keeper, tbh. call him.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:40 (fourteen years ago) link

and like i said, he's basically a child. he'll improve. this is just a THREAD TO GET OVER A BREAKUP

xpost haha already called tbh but it was not that kinda call imo there will be no more calls

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:40 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i figured your character assassination focused on certain incidents rather than the whole...you certainly have a way of knocking 'em though! guess most accusations of deep-seated flaws are to be taken as a hint rather than an outright denouncement xxxxp

yeah, well put like that everything falls into perspective...i wonder if a companion thread 'say something nice about an ex' could be started... xxp

but he does sound slightly immature. a lot of these flaws/plus points remind me of myself a year or so back

alien vs the smiths (country matters), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Speaking of positive things, I just saw my most recent ex after a long break, and it was really nice, I think we may become friends again. So in the end we got over the breakup better than I thought.

Tuomas, Monday, 14 September 2009 11:42 (fourteen years ago) link

but he does sound slightly immature. a lot of these flaws/plus points remind me of myself a year or so back

lj you need to write a book, ur game is A++ dawg

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:44 (fourteen years ago) link

srsly

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:44 (fourteen years ago) link

(i.e. being a bit solipsistic, showy, not always listening, complimenting on looks all the time, being all OMG about music...after my break-up at the start of this year, things have been reevaluated xp)

alien vs the smiths (country matters), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:44 (fourteen years ago) link

he is immature. he is 22 years old.

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:54 (fourteen years ago) link

:-/

just sayin', there are faint echoes of the fallout from when i dated an older lady last year

alien vs the smiths (country matters), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:58 (fourteen years ago) link

an older lady huh!!!!

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 11:59 (fourteen years ago) link

>:|

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 12:00 (fourteen years ago) link

you sound like you mean elderly lady

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 12:00 (fourteen years ago) link

well she was 25, i was 21...not much in it i guess...age ought to be irrelevant but i am trying to make my relative immaturity more explicable

alien vs the smiths (country matters), Monday, 14 September 2009 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i was gonna say "hey 22's plenty mature" but then i remembered i'm not 22 in 28 when the fuck did that happen ;__;

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 September 2009 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway here is something else about this guy. he did not enjoy cute things!!!! he hated cute things. i remember watching some cat video or another and him acting SOOOOO put out by it. i know now unequivocally i can never date another person who is too concerned with his keeping up his antifaggotish or otherwise masculine exterior to say "aw" over a cat eating sushi. fuck that kind of LIFE, imo. i remember once he was annoyed that someone had posted "<3" on my favebook page like that was just the uncoolest thing ever, in fact this person was grady. haw.

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 12:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Roxy has one of those knockoff social networking pages that over 50s accidentally get sucked into.

bamcquern, Monday, 14 September 2009 12:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i was readin through this tryin to figure out what this guy's deal was and then you posted that he's 22 and i got it.

call all destroyer, Monday, 14 September 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, tbh. dude's 22 and in a band.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 September 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 rox

DAN P3RRY MAD AT GRANDMA (just1n3), Monday, 14 September 2009 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i will be marrying an older lady

omar little, Monday, 14 September 2009 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck him Roxy -- I know plenty of badass metal and noise dudes that do not feel it compromises their badass-dudeness to think cats eating sushi are cute.

Suggest Bander-Meinhof Complex (sarahel), Monday, 14 September 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

^^ in fact, one of these guys had his cat die recently, and he was totally heartbroken, and was not concerned in the least that that implied he was a f@ggot

Suggest Bander-Meinhof Complex (sarahel), Monday, 14 September 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

"fuck him Roxy"

:O

am0n, Monday, 14 September 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Dispense with the dude.

Suggest Bander-Meinhof Complex (sarahel), Monday, 14 September 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

what the fuck does that even mean and what is its relevance at the moment bryce

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

thing is gear, lovely and committed as it doubtless is, you didn't meet her when you were in your early twenties...at such ages, although a gap may not seem like anything (and we stressed it wasn't, especially as i was her first serious partner too - something which probably caused more problems than the age), it may have influenced some of our decision-making, or at least given us mindsets that were in need of calibrating (something that didn't ultimately happen to a sufficient extent)...sustaining such a relationship at that age is an achievement and testament to precocious levels of commitment imo

alien vs the smiths (country matters), Monday, 14 September 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

also this was NOT NOT NOT a metal dude btw. he is the one that only like the locust

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 September 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

so he has a badass inferiority complex?

Suggest Bander-Meinhof Complex (sarahel), Monday, 14 September 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

favebook favebook favebook God touchy

bamcquern, Monday, 14 September 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

re age differences -- almost every guy I've gone for has been two years older than me ... it's as if there was some sort of hormonal signal communicating "I was born in 1972" that I respond to.

Suggest Bander-Meinhof Complex (sarahel), Monday, 14 September 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

ive always dated guys my age or 32 year olds

tbf there are some real benefits to dating a younger guy. there are drawbacks too, obviously. i wonder if i got a less selfabsorbed/ridiculous one if it coulda been great, actually.

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 07:42 (fourteen years ago) link

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections?

I've never cared that much about the age of the people I date, except that I usually avoid girls who are too young (more than 5 years younger than me), because their life situations and expectations towards a relationship often tend to be different from mine. I'm tired of being with girls who just want a bit of fun and some good sex with little commitment, these days I want something deeper from a relationship. Of course there are people like that among older girls/women too, but it's still rarer among folks in their late 20s/early 30s than those in their early 20s.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 12:06 (fourteen years ago) link

o m g

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 12:11 (fourteen years ago) link

If we're talking purely about sex though, older girls/women are obviously more likely to have more experience in that, which means they're generally better in bed, and that's always a plus. Give me sluts over virgins anyday!

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link

hero. fucking hero.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link

TOO. MANY. SCREENNAMES. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGGHHHHHHHH.

give me sluts (Upt0eleven), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't get it, did I write something funny?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i couldn't fit in the 'tired of being with' so now it looks creepy. will not last.

girls who just want a bit of fun and some good sex (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:23 (fourteen years ago) link

that's better

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

you should remove the word 'sex' from that first username and keep it

alien vs the smiths (country matters), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

be my guest. i've moved on.

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link

tuomas, if anyone ever SB's you again i'm going to their house and fighting them.

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link

this thread is like herpes - the gift that keeps on giving!

Suggest Bander-Meinhof Complex (sarahel), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

benefits of younger guys, as i see it are they're not jaded and still act enthusiastic about stuff (and almost everything is new to them, so...) and also want to and can have sex all the time

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

and also want to and can have sex all the time

my bf is like this and he is 36 ...

new clusterfuck thread will eventually provide me a funny display name (sarahel), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah see if i could find a 30+ who had those two benefits (and most importantly the not being a jaded boring snoozefest) i would delight in him

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

lack of jadedness is harder to come by in the 30+ age group ...

new clusterfuck thread will eventually provide me a funny display name (sarahel), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

but when they get old and jaded they might be jaded about YOU

xp

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I just turned 30 but I'm not jaded at all, and I can have sex all the time, so it's not impossible.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, this is real great news.

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

accents, roxy! accents!

both HOOSlarious and truthful (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

^^ seriously, was that an intentional or unintentional zing?

new clusterfuck thread will eventually provide me a funny display name (sarahel), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe the dudes over 30+ are jaded because of back problems, just sayin imo

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

or male pattern baldness ...

new clusterfuck thread will eventually provide me a funny display name (sarahel), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

35, not jaded, can have sex all the time (but only exciting sex some of the time, lazy sex the rest of the time...bad knees)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

xp yeah but you can't trace that back to overdoing the sex in your 20's, to be fair.

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not even 25 and tbh i am jaded & bored by sex 90% of the time.

ian, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

^this, tbh

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

well, i'm not even 30, but the same sentiment

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry ian and darraghmac: we just arent meant to be imo

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i am meant to be with my cat so it's cool.

ian, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link

its a shame the law won't recognise your love

plax (I know, right?), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 08:04 (fourteen years ago) link

;_; for ian's forbidden cat love and for roxy's callous rejection of my jaded libido.

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 09:03 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.housepetscomic.com/comics/2008-08-08-i-swear-its-platonic.png

ian, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link

not two ships passing, two people at sea for years suddenly landing on the same island together, completely shocked at how utterly perfect they are for each other, for the first time suddenly things like home and family seeming like real possibilities instead of alien concepts. but both knowing that island was not a real home for anyone, and one of them dutifully holding back. until the other one got the point, and swam away.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link

ahhhhhhhh

tehresa, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link

that's sad.

new clusterfuck thread will eventually provide me a funny display name (sarahel), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link

yes. i am sad now. well, more sad.

aarrissi-a-roni, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link

harshin my mellow, milton, sheesh

judged on by some off the island motherfucker (gbx), Thursday, 17 September 2009 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link

is this recent or an older thing?

new clusterfuck thread will eventually provide me a funny display name (sarahel), Thursday, 17 September 2009 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link

aw man. :-( sad.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 17 September 2009 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link

People don't talk about this enough. The almost arbitrary resistance to or dissolution of relationships between people who are pretty well worth being married.

bamcquern, Thursday, 17 September 2009 01:56 (fourteen years ago) link

the thing that sucks about not being jaded and still like believing in people and things is that you kind of get let down a lot so you know what kudos to jaded dudes, you know the score

like to see people and animal getting hurt or in troubles (nickalicious), Thursday, 17 September 2009 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link

That's not really true, or at least I don't get let down "a lot". I trust most people are decent folks, and so far I haven't been proven wrong. Of course there's a minority of assholes out there, but I don't see why I'd have to become jaded because of them.

Tuomas, Thursday, 17 September 2009 07:12 (fourteen years ago) link

but u live in candyland.

tehresa, Thursday, 17 September 2009 08:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Do you have Reese's Peanut Butter Cups in candyland? Er, Finland?

new clusterfuck thread will eventually provide me a funny display name (sarahel), Thursday, 17 September 2009 08:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Of course there's a minority of assholes out there

ah, the crux of the matter.

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 September 2009 09:26 (fourteen years ago) link

You could be the goddamn sweetest person for a moment. I would earnestly appreciate the ground you walk on. But the moment I'd disagree, or I'd want to be warm and at home instead of drinking out with friends, you'd act like I was the most judgmental shit on the planet and that I wasn't worth spitting on. All I really wanted to do was love, and be loved, by you. And you, and me, and the circumstances of the world at large turned it all into a paranoid mess and I didn't feel like there was any warmth left. And I'm gone.

mh, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry, ^^^ vague melodrama!

mh, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link

that's what thread's for, tbf.

btw

I would earnestly appreciate the ground you walk on

girls don't appreciate you holdng back like this. 'earnestly appreciate', my ass. you think quezcoatl is gonna accept your 'earnest appreciation'? tch.

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I think that was my drunk talk version of "you could get me to do about anything because I am a pushover for you"

mh, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

<3s to mh thats what this thread is for, emo away your grief incrementally.

the guy i started this thread about came to black metal show that he knew i was playing at last night. i havent laid eyes on him since february. tbh it was incredibly awkward for both of us i think.

heave haw (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IC_teUwEhE

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Monday, 28 September 2009 08:22 (fourteen years ago) link

i think she looks like a girl whiney might like to drown! :D

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Monday, 28 September 2009 08:23 (fourteen years ago) link

lolll

*:--☆--:*:--☆:*:--☆--:*:--☆--: (ENBB), Monday, 28 September 2009 11:12 (fourteen years ago) link

She's talking and holding up notecards with numbers. That's all I gather.

bamcquern, Monday, 28 September 2009 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

she sounds a little like sarah palin

goole, Monday, 28 September 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

So, still not able to hear her, I would guess that she's talking about how she's a commitment-phobe, and dates a lot of men who fall in love with her, and then she breaks their hearts, and this is her self-analysis about how exactly she does that.

bamcquern, Monday, 28 September 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

wow, you're very wrong!

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i think she sounds like a flatlander tbh

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

What is she talking about?

bamcquern, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 03:26 (fourteen years ago) link

And was she broken up with, or vice versa?

bamcquern, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link

The video is one that is to be sent to someone you are breaking up with. So, she's delivering a list of possible breakup reasons.

mh, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

It's a hilarious video, actually.

If I ever go out with anyone ever again, I will use this video to break up with them.

In fact, I might look for a relationship just to have an excuse to use this as a breakup tool!

(I am joking of course)

I Like Daydreams, I've Had Enough Reality (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

"i think she sounds like a flatlander tbh"

about me

Hi. Since July of 2006, I've officially been a full-time freelance writer, podcaster and online video producer. After high school, I studied creative writing for a couple years but no, didn't come away from the University with a degree in English or Journalism, or anything for that matter (yes I'm one of those). ;)

After growing up mostly in Nebraska I've just moved to California. It's an adjustment but so far I love the ocean and all the creative people.

I keep discovering new favorite things, but they usually have something to do with art, music, or writing...or coffee. I like the process of trying to make my own art and music, but so far the end results have been nothing I'd share.

I love people, and my favorite people are always the ones who need some time alone with themselves. People, in general, should probably spend more time staring out windows on rainy days.

velko, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i am really good at telling where people are from

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link

would plow her prairie tbh

velko, Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

haha i know that manga!! xp

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link

where am i from

Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:14 (fourteen years ago) link

new jersey?

steamed hams (harbl), Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i didnt say "im jaymc"

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:16 (fourteen years ago) link

quebec

velko, Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:18 (fourteen years ago) link

queens

steamed hams (harbl), Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:19 (fourteen years ago) link

south que-rolina

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Albequerque

somewhere a poll is missing its wacky write-in vote (sarahel), Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Washington DC

omar little, Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^dude you're engaged and i don't wanna see your name on the last post here <3

que: ozarks?

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i feel like que is from a mid-atlantic state, not from washington dc originally because no one is who lives there

steamed hams (harbl), Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link

except a lot of people :/

steamed hams (harbl), Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link

one of my exes was from Washington DC

somewhere a poll is missing its wacky write-in vote (sarahel), Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link

except a lot of people

steamed hams (harbl), Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah but he was white

somewhere a poll is missing its wacky write-in vote (sarahel), Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link

young lady!

steamed hams (harbl), Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm white and harbl is the most correct with her East Coastian theory, although i did spend some time in the Ozarkian region, so good job Mookie.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link

are you from pennsylvania

steamed hams (harbl), Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Ozarques

velko, Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link

we moved around a lot, so I'm not really "from" anywhere, but spent time in MA, VA, VT, NC, DC, etc.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link

and now i've ruined this awesome breakup thread with boring facts about me

Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm white too

steamed hams (harbl), Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link

is anyone else white?

steamed hams (harbl), Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm white btw

somewhere a poll is missing its wacky write-in vote (sarahel), Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link

This is supposed to be the breakup thread, not a KKK meeting.

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 October 2009 07:30 (fourteen years ago) link

bit harsh

Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 October 2009 09:26 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, coming from a white guy from Scandinavia

somewhere a poll is missing its wacky write-in vote (sarahel), Thursday, 1 October 2009 09:49 (fourteen years ago) link

(i think it was a tuomas wisecrack, no backlash)

Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 October 2009 10:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Well one never knows with white Scandinavian guys now do we?

(I'm white btw)

young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 1 October 2009 10:08 (fourteen years ago) link

oh yeah, i'm totally white btw

Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 October 2009 10:09 (fourteen years ago) link

http://images.travelpod.com/users/maplefanta/europe2006.1155880800.dsc_0429.jpg

In Finland you could visit these supermarkets.

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 October 2009 11:31 (fourteen years ago) link

But Finland is not in Scandinavia, guys!

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 October 2009 11:31 (fourteen years ago) link

not only anti-racist but hates the scandinavians as well. nice.

Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 October 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link

so

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

is your ex-girlfriend still reading this thread, hoos?

somewhere a poll is missing its wacky write-in vote (sarahel), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

might be an ex-ex by now ;_;

kell surprise (country matters), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

hoos r u

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

srs

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i can not keep up with this one

tehresa, Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

play on playas?

mookieproof, Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - i had trouble keeping up with who had which awful freshman roommate in the sexile thread.

somewhere a poll is missing its wacky write-in vote (sarahel), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't keep up either tbh idk whats going on but its not dope and happiness for sure xxp

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

:( sry man. drama sucks, tbh

Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Had a minor freakout last night when a friend stupidly mentioned that the ex updated her relationship status on facebook to say she was with someone. Of course, it doesn't in any way matter and isn't really relevant to my life anymore, but still kind of burns a little. Doesn't seem like it's been long, but it's been a couple months I guess?

In any case, still happy I'm outta there.

mh, Thursday, 15 October 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I miss my ex a ton.
Still.
I feel like I really blew it and am never gonna meet anyone else I will be happy with. I don't have the guts to check her facebook; she's probably happy in a relationship right now. I have my cat, and he's not even particularly affectionate.

ian, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 04:00 (fourteen years ago) link

tough break on the cat. how long has it been since you broke up?

you can have this tapdance here for free (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 04:01 (fourteen years ago) link

ian :(

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 04:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Early summer iirc.

ian, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 04:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I called her tonight and am pretty glad she didn't pick up. I don't even know what I would have said--"I miss you and think about you everyday" does't seem like the kinda thing someone wants to hear. I'm not drunk btw.

ian, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 04:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I really know how you feel right now tbh dude :/

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I feel like I really blew it and am never gonna meet anyone else I will be happy with.

Man, I feel for you. I went through this for so long after my last breakup. Thought I'd never be the same again, that I'd never be able to really feel that way about someone and that nobody could ever possibly love me again. That I wasn't even worth it if they did. And that I'd have this hurt for the person who left me in me for the rest of my life.

Eventually I met someone else. I like her now instead. I almost never think about my ex at this point. It can and will happen, bro. Eventually you'll be better.

Havin' a cat helps iirc.

Ultraviolet Thunder, Immortal Master of Eagles (Clay), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 04:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I feel like I really blew it and am never gonna meet anyone else I will be happy with.

^^^that was me today.

sarahel, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I hate to say it, Sara(h? still not clear on this), but you'll probably feel that way for a long time :\ I know I've felt this way before--after both of the other 'serious' relationships i've had in my life--and it takes a long time to go away. In fact, it usually doesn't go away until you meet someone new, in my experience. but tbh I don't even really want to meet anyone new? I kinda have this snobbish thing going on where I think most of my peers are shallow & naive.

ian, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess that's why I always date older women.
And clearly that hasn't worked out so well.

ian, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Sarah with an "h"

I kinda have this snobbish thing going on where I think most of my peers are shallow & naive.

are these the ones you know or just in general?

sarahel, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess just the ones i know? though tbh the average twenty-something i overhear on the street yapping into his or her cell phone does not inspire much hope.

ian, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:41 (fourteen years ago) link

early, mid, or late 20-something?

sarahel, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:42 (fourteen years ago) link

which is not to say that i despise my friends or ilxors or co-workers or anything. i think they're good ppl overall. but i can't remember the last time i was introduced to someone at bar or a party who seemed worth keeping in touch with.

ian, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:43 (fourteen years ago) link

mid.

ian, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i see a lot of people in their mid-20s through the course of one of my jobs, and my perception is kinda like yours, but then i'm just seeing them at shows and parties, and i think the environment might be a significant part of that.

sarahel, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:48 (fourteen years ago) link

There are many fish in the sea, it's a shame so many of them come with toxic levels of mercury. :(

ian, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:54 (fourteen years ago) link

or else they're bland, boring, or you're pretty sure that they won't agree with your stomach - to continue the metaphor.

sarahel, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:56 (fourteen years ago) link

okay enuff self-pity for me tonight, trying to get some rest.
I hope your situation plays out in a way that's not absolutely miserable for you Sarah. Good luck.

ian, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:58 (fourteen years ago) link

goin thru biggest breakup of my life iirc; broke up with the 3 coolest dudes ever :(

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

band breakup? me too

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

si

harder than i thought it would be. been with em longer than ive been in any relationship, or any job, or anything

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

that sucks. :(

sarahel, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

like all of my relationships though, i quit

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

:( sorry dude. ours isn't too dramatic since sarah and i are still married obviously and drummer is our friend and we'll see him around and i think we're all ready for a break but it's still kinda sad sometimes

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry dudes :(

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

its ok theres other shit.

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry roxy :(

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry to hear it, roxy : /

jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe you should become a solo bass player? You never see those around, there must be a huge creative vacuum to be filled.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh my god! I'm sorry, to the both of you.

Band breakups, I've found, are always way more traumatic and heartrending than the romantic kind.

Good thoughts to all involved.

anger is an energy (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

roxy can fill jaco pastorius' shoes

jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't fret (groan...)

a gift from your mind in the form of the perfect beat (snoball), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

band break ups :(

how rad bandit (gbx), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

at least bands have a way better chance of getting back together than couples

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

getting back together is never an aspiration with couples for me.

plax (I know, right?), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

i aspired to this for the first five days, but now i've come to terms with it basically being over.

sarahel, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

u r awesome and he is obviously a retard for not appreciating u properly sarahel <3

plax (I know, right?), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

thanks dude!

sarahel, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

freal tho, he will prolly always feel a pang of regret over this

plax (I know, right?), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, he probably will. we're talking almost 1/3 of our lives so far have been together, and we've been through a lot of shit. we pretty much agreed that even though we weren't married, it was really like a marriage.

sarahel, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

i know it is early days and u need a mourning period but i feel like when u r ready u are strong enough to totally transcend this or whatevs

plax (I know, right?), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

thanks, because i totally do not feel that way. i'm really fucking scared.

sarahel, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i am totally hugging u thru the internet and I'm not normally a hugger

plax (I know, right?), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

awww - your tuppence collages are so awesome.

sarahel, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

The swallow is building a nest,
Building a nest and singing,
And every time she places a straw,
She remembers her former nest.

Only once before she built a nest,
But she mended it many times,
And then, the last time she returned,
She found the nest in ruin.

But now she is building a nest again,
Building a nest and singing,
And every time she places a straw,
She remembers her former nest.

She remembers, too, the past year,
When, as she gathered food for her young,
The bloodthirsty enemy
Snatched them all from the road.

But once again she is building a nest,
Building a nest and singing,
And every time she places a straw,
She remembers her former nest.

--- Ghazaros Aghayan (1840-1911)

ian, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^^^ booming poem imo.

ian, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I kinda have this snobbish thing going on where I think most of my peers are shallow & naive.

got this going on too, it sucks.

sarahel, you'll pull through! you've always struck me as one of the most down to earth and levelheaded posters here - I'm sure you'll come out of the tunnel fine

囧 (dyao), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 01:14 (fourteen years ago) link

thanks!

sarahel, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 01:16 (fourteen years ago) link

IKR otm

sarah, i know it's super scary now and there's really no way around that - that's just the way it goes - but just keep reminding yrself that you won't always feel this way. you might even be surprised how quickly you move on.

DAN P3RRY MAD AT GRANDMA (just1n3), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Hugs and encouragement for sarahel and roxy.

I agree w/ the solo bass star thing! Dudes with acoustic guitars do it all the time, and they're the worst.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link

roxy why are you quitting the band?

DAN P3RRY MAD AT GRANDMA (just1n3), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 02:46 (fourteen years ago) link

ian that poem is incredible

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link

yes, yes it is.
i did not write it, obviously.
a friend posted it on lolfacebook today; and i thought i'd lost the ability to be moved by poetry.

ian, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 04:41 (fourteen years ago) link

just sent it to one of my exbandmates tbh

im quitting the band because i am turning thirty and the idea of starting over makes me feel tired. we were at a crossroads where something big was possible, but big changes had to happen, and i realized i cared more about being good than being successful

\(o_O)/

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Thursday, 29 October 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i play in other bands, and for the record i would never do a solo bass thing, because i also play guitar, and when i play by myself i play guitar.

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Thursday, 29 October 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

when i play by myself... well..

ian, Friday, 30 October 2009 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link

ok that poem just made me tear up.

bear say hi to me (ENBB), Friday, 30 October 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i just sent it to a friend in bad times

how rad bandit (gbx), Friday, 30 October 2009 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I just copied it down.

bear say hi to me (ENBB), Friday, 30 October 2009 02:28 (fourteen years ago) link

im quitting the band because i am turning thirty and the idea of starting over makes me feel tired

c'mon baby

i cared more about being good than being successful

okay

mookieproof, Friday, 30 October 2009 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Poem is slaying me :/

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Friday, 30 October 2009 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link

It is some serious shit.
But so optimistic, don't get down friends.

ian, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh for reals I agree. Man what is it with the last few weeks? Its kicking all our asses.

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Friday, 30 October 2009 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link

seasonal change has a lot to do with it for me, and maybe for the rest of us in the northern hemisphere..

ian, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link

it's pretty </3 that poem
sigh

tehresa, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah youre right its been a rough couple weeks and i refuse to believe that isn't involved

call all destroyer, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link

xp

call all destroyer, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link

i always feel uneasy in the fall but usually in the fall i have some new love interest and this fall all i have is memories.

tehresa, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^^

ian, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Aw tza :( *big hugs*

Heck its late sping here, I have no excuse for being down wtf

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Friday, 30 October 2009 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link

And yet.

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Friday, 30 October 2009 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link

you don't need an excuse to feel bad, sometimes that's just the way it is.

ian, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh well at least it is friday and there are halloween parties afoot! cheer up, me. Sorry i'll stop crapping on.

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Friday, 30 October 2009 05:01 (fourteen years ago) link

shit is mad stressy over here, can't wait to go home for thxgiving, v much the light at the end of the tunnel

a goon boy (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 October 2009 05:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i always feel uneasy in the fall but usually in the fall i have some new love interest and this fall all i have is memories.

I'm pretty much in the same situation. And at the moment I'm kinda too tired and bummed out even to go looking for new love interests. So better get used to living with memories.

Tuomas, Friday, 30 October 2009 09:22 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah :-/

how rad bandit (gbx), Friday, 30 October 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

im quitting the band because i am turning thirty and the idea of starting over makes me feel tired/i cared more about being good than being successful

they go hand in hand, trust. "starting over" = changing for $ basically

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Friday, 30 October 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

My last three relationships began in the fall, all during October. This October is the first one in.. five years? .. that I'll end the month single. I don't really have any motivation to go out and socialize at the minute, either.

mh, Friday, 30 October 2009 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

haha my ex (the one that said "cunt") just sent me an email bossing me not to go to his bar when my BF's band plays. tbh i wasn't planning on going, but now i'm going to bring my entire family

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Friday, 6 November 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

lolll do it. whaddajerk.

bear say hi to me (ENBB), Friday, 6 November 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

he sucks afaik

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Friday, 6 November 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

sounds like he's still into you

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 6 November 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post Yep. This is the first time you've heard from him since that email though, right? I remember you said you knew it would be weird when/if you had to go to his bar but srsy fuck him and just go.

bear say hi to me (ENBB), Friday, 6 November 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah this is the first time since i was like "no rly never speak to me again". here is the email:

Subj: If possible

Emily,
****'s band will be playing here on the 29th and that I have to work that night with sound/bartending. I would appreciate if you would not attend the show. I'd rather not see you --not right now at least.

Thanks.
****

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Friday, 6 November 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

"and that i have to work that night"

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Friday, 6 November 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

the correct response to that is "what part of 'no rly never speak to me again'" was ambiguous?" imo

Yeah~ I can flay~~~ (HI DERE), Friday, 6 November 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

im not going to respond at all, just show up to the show and and party as heartily as possible

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Friday, 6 November 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

At this point I think that's probably the best way forward.

bear say hi to me (ENBB), Friday, 6 November 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

that's kind of exactly how "what part of 'no rly never speak to me again' was ambiguous?" should be communicated imo

Yeah~ I can flay~~~ (HI DERE), Friday, 6 November 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

haw!

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Friday, 6 November 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

wow i'm not even sure what the right word for his behavior is.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 November 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

god this guy reaches new heights by the day

that doucheant imo if u feel me

Nanobots: HOOSTEEND (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 6 November 2009 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link

haha old school

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Friday, 6 November 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

srsly i think i am going to literally wear bells to this show

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Friday, 6 November 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I can understand where he's coming from - but considering the "cunt" business, with that he pretty much surrendered any right he had for you to be considerate of his sensitive widdul fee-wings.

sarahel, Friday, 6 November 2009 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post <3

bear say hi to me (ENBB), Friday, 6 November 2009 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link

too bad it isn't Halloween - you could get your friends to ask him, "What are you dressed up as, an asshole?"

sarahel, Friday, 6 November 2009 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I can understand where he's coming from - but considering the "cunt" business, with that he pretty much surrendered any right he had for you to be considerate of his sensitive widdul fee-wings.

― sarahel, Friday, November 6, 2009 6:07 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Exactly. I was being super respectful of his space and kind to/considerate of him until that little incident. He does not "get it" (where it = any and everything).

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Saturday, 7 November 2009 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, i'm trying to avoid getting to the "gloves off" stage w/mine. I'm being extremely respectful and nice, but maybe too nice.

sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Respectful is fine. Nice is overrated.

Yeah~ I can flay~~~ (HI DERE), Saturday, 7 November 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link

its tough when you still care about someone who has wronged you

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Saturday, 7 November 2009 00:24 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah :/

how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 7 November 2009 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I get that; my advice really revolves around "respectful" having the necessary coldness/impersonableness to create the distance necessary for you both to get to a healthier interaction point (where that may mean never seeing each other again or being good friends).

Yeah~ I can flay~~~ (HI DERE), Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:00 (fourteen years ago) link

yesterday we had the talk about "there will soon come a time when we have to sit down and sort our stuff."

sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:01 (fourteen years ago) link

that just makes me dread the impending real-deal conversation that will happen between my parents re: stuff

lol c u house i grew up in

how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:44 (fourteen years ago) link

the hardest part will be dealing w/stuff we received as a couple as gifts.

sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:46 (fourteen years ago) link

take everything you like as a starting position, if he makes hassle let it go. he's not really in a position to make hassle though, so as i said start with everything.

banned of bros. (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link

let all the couple shit go unless you love it. it'll depress you later

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link

the only things i wish i'd put up a 'fight' over in my last breakup were the photos. lol pre-digital storage

banned of bros. (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i wish id taken my kitchen stuff. not that it was a fight, i just left it there. that still pisses me off

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:54 (fourteen years ago) link

the couple shit is mostly dvds, so it's not super sentimental value type things. There are a couple pieces of his artwork that I'd like to keep, but I dunno, maybe I don't want to keep them?

sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link

leaving kitchen stuff? outrageous.

banned of bros. (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:57 (fourteen years ago) link

the kitchen stuff is almost all mine.
the tv/vcr/dvd player - all mine.
couch - mine.
bookshelves - 60/40 - mine/his
books - 60/40 - mine/his (though a bunch of his really nice art books were things I gave him as gifts cause I have a work discount)
back issues of Art in America magazine dating back to 1992 - his, all his
cds/records - almost entirely mine, one or two things that could be "ours" - he never really listens to music
movies - 40/60 mine/his - though most of the good ones are mine and a lot of his are crappy

sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

keeping an ex's artwork while not desiring "couple-y" things is a vexing personal and somewhat emotionally abstract problem i don't imagine most ppl have to deal with

(not helpful, but still)

how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, there's a drawing i really like, and a sculpture that i really like that in its way really encapsulates our relationship

sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link

these things are his, but i'm trying to decide if i want to ask if i can have them. the sculpture is pretty cumbersome and would be annoying to move/find a place for if he's moving to a smaller place.

sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

see i can understand how this goes with the whole being v angry/upset w/someone that you, in some ways, respect...thing

cf pretty sure my dad was a 'bad actor' (<--lol med speak) in the disintegration of my family, but i still ~like him, you know? he's been my fucking dad for nearly thirty years, and is otherwise the same dude.

VEXING

how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link

not that our situations are in any way similar, obv

how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:11 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry gbx - that sounds really horrible to deal with - how large a role do you have in this?

sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:11 (fourteen years ago) link

lol wait did am i REALLY the reason mom and dad are fighting????

j/k

unclear. i mean, my mom's going blind and sort of relies on others for 80% of her non-home agency, so it's gonna be a lot on my sis and me, eventually.

how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link

back issues of Art in America magazine dating back to 1992 - his, all his

lol keep these u can give them to me!

plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link

ha! his previous ex-girlfriend complained about these - how much room they took up - and that was in 1997. He's accrued over a decade's worth, since. It's actually a good magazine with some really interesting articles.

sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i love art in america, dave hickey has been writing a column in it for a while now and the article they had a few months back about "provisional painting" was like porn 2 me

plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link

there were actually a couple issues he had that had articles I used for my MA thesis.

sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

also where i first came across blinky palermo and james bishop

plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Blinky Palermo always reminds me of the Dead Milkmen song "Bitchin' Camaro"

sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

as art magazines go it is refreshingly unhip

plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i had a subscription to artforum for a while, some of it would be really great and fascinating, and some of it would have this grating "too hip for you" quality. I think there was some article or blog post a while ago that did a comparison between Artforum and Vogue. I hadn't thought about it before, but in a lot of ways they are similar.

sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah that makes sense actually

plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I will not miss the way you set the alarm for a time unrealistically early considering when you went to sleep and it goes off for fucking ever before it jars you into hitting snooze.

sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh that is a terrible trait. maybe not a conscious bad habit but cmon thats inconsiderate

johnny crunch, Saturday, 7 November 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

xp 2 sarahel: lol just came across this
http://donchristensen.com/images/Vog.jpg

plaques (I know, right?), Sunday, 8 November 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

ha ha! one of my friends wanted to get me a poster of baldessari's "i will not make boring art" piece - but apparently this item does not exist, and i think it should.

sarahel, Sunday, 8 November 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

lol @ heilmann illustrating the 60's as well

plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

whatever happened to "world art" magazine

luol deng (am0n), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

gbx you should read Bottomless Bellybutton

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

is it sad, y/n

lots of jerks (gbx), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

when you say "i don't care" i can tell from your expression and body language that you in fact, do care
when you say "i don't know" i can tell that you actually do have some idea
will be glad to no longer be obliged to read your mind

provates: feminine plural of provato (sarahel), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

xp sad but not depressing. and also funny, clever, and all around awesome.

I Endorse He-Horse (ytth), Thursday, 12 November 2009 06:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i like the title why bc it sound intersting

tehresa, Thursday, 12 November 2009 06:16 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.metropulse.com/news/2009/nov/11/tenderhooks-call-it-quits/

This was in the local rag yesterday, so now everybody is asking me about the breakup and all. Also, this article was written by an ilxor. Also, lol "avant doom".

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 November 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link

"the split APPEARS amicable"

it actually is amicable tbh + ieo

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 November 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link

metropulse.com should get over it

luol deng (am0n), Friday, 13 November 2009 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link

wait are you in that band thats like corrupted you posted about??

luol deng (am0n), Friday, 13 November 2009 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link

gbx it is half sad

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Saturday, 14 November 2009 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

in the same way Orson Welles in The Third Man is half fat

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Saturday, 14 November 2009 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

haha i am now. xposts

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Saturday, 14 November 2009 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link

crap, should i watch the movie first??

itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Saturday, 14 November 2009 05:40 (fourteen years ago) link

thats awesome roxy

luol deng (am0n), Saturday, 14 November 2009 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

had thoroughly polite pragmatic discussion about his moving out, timeline for this, separation of stuff - it was almost unreal.

sarahel, Sunday, 15 November 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

It's good that you can at least settle that stuff without things getting nasty...

Lots of hugs and sympathy to you!

Tuomas, Sunday, 15 November 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

today i made a budget to try and figure out what my expenses would be like living alone

sarahel, Sunday, 15 November 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

ime the expenses will seem kind of a lot at first, but then you'll save a lot of money in other places you didn't expect... i know i eat out, go to movies, spend less on eating in general when i'm single

DAN P3RRY MAD AT GRANDMA (just1n3), Monday, 16 November 2009 02:49 (fourteen years ago) link

tend to spend a lot more on beer tho

hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Monday, 16 November 2009 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

shit i forgot about the part where i spent way more on wine

DAN P3RRY MAD AT GRANDMA (just1n3), Monday, 16 November 2009 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link

but my last ex was also a total financial burden on me, so i could only be richer upon breaking up with him

DAN P3RRY MAD AT GRANDMA (just1n3), Monday, 16 November 2009 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Friends of mine whove been together 7 years - who went through all the pain and hassle of her getting visas to live in aus and everything - have jist broken up and shes prob moving back to the US. Its so sad! They were like everyone's go-to couple for "they'll always be together" benchmark :( I'm like, hell if *they* cant make it work... jeez :(

hulk would smash (Trayce), Monday, 16 November 2009 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

spent about an hour sorting most of our dvds and videos into "mine," "his" and a "i don't know/i don't remember/given to us both" pile, found an Amoeba gift certificate he'd given to me as a gift a while ago, only cried a little.

sarahel, Sunday, 22 November 2009 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link

you get huffy and pissy when you ask me a question and don't like my answer
you have back hair
you clip your toenails on the couch while we're watching a movie

sarahel, Sunday, 29 November 2009 03:19 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^disgusting savage, etc

mookieproof, Monday, 30 November 2009 05:44 (fourteen years ago) link

after 2 hours of discussion:

him: I am disappointed to learn that i wasn't entirely satisfactory
me: it's not like you tried very hard.

sarahel, Monday, 30 November 2009 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link

you uh lived too far away and didn't like poetry

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 09:27 (fourteen years ago) link

that's all i got

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 09:28 (fourteen years ago) link

(xpost) sounds like the first line of a breakup song

"you uh lived too far a-waaaaaaay
and didn't like po-et-ryyyyy
AND THEN YOU BROKE MY HEART
LIKE AN EMOTIONLESS DEMON
dun dun dundun!"

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:11 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - you only had what - a month? After 11 years, there's a wealth of material.

sarahel, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:16 (fourteen years ago) link

my posts were kinda tongue in cheek

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean there was a slight element of ripping it out of the whole 'you had x flaw' process

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't like poetry either
there i said it

harbl, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

sigh

max, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp = it doesn't seem like you need much, let alone this thread, to get over this breakup

sarahel, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

heh where was this thread when i last needed it?

you discovered you were perfect and i wasn't

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link

breakups are not contests

mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

if breakups are not contests, why do i feel like such a loser?

sarahel, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 harbl

velko, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

feeling pretty shitty. about to join your ranks!

囧 (dyao), Saturday, 5 December 2009 06:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Stop it guys you're all making me sad :(

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Saturday, 5 December 2009 07:11 (fourteen years ago) link

guy from OP texted me today

"Did you flip your collar up at me in front of the pilot light yesterday?"

--

??@!?!??!?!?!?!

afa the i can c (roxymuzak), Sunday, 6 December 2009 06:11 (fourteen years ago) link

flip you, collar farmer

Santa Boars (winshit@burgerfuel.co.nz) (sic), Sunday, 6 December 2009 07:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Note, long, whiny post coming:

Aforementioned loony and I got back together for a little while, because she cut way back on drinking and I'm a sucker.

Fast-forward to two weeks ago - she loses her iPhone, I loan her my old iPhone because it's got a crack in the corner of the glass (works fine, but resale is bleh). Now, being an upstanding and trusting sort, I don't erase the year's worth of texts that remain on the phone or my address book/etc.. She proceeds to read a large chunk of these texts, discovers that I was repeatedly frustrated at her drinking more than she knew (as in telling people I was going to avoid her for a night because I didn't want to deal) and that I'd slept with my best friend (before we had ever dated). I explain to her that I was putting with a lot of shit from her re: drinking, and that I never told her about sleeping with best friend because it had happened in the past. She calms down, fine.

That Sunday she sends me a message telling me that I'm not into the relationship enough and that if I want to date other people I should. I point out that I've shown no interest in dating anyone else, and have no intention of doing so. She says no more.

We hang out Tues/Wed, everything's fine.

Thursday she tells me that since she made the offer to date other people to me, that she's going to do so. I tell her I'm not okay with that and want to take the weekend off from our plans. I wanted to see her in person this week to break up in person. A couple of hours later she sends me, out of the blue, "Fuck you asshole, I never want to see you again." I sent back "Okay."

She texts me yesterday with a kind of peace offering, she'd blown up because she'd read more old texts (from before we were dating) and had convinced herself that I had planned to meet a friend's sister in Boston and cheat. I point out that it would be difficult to make those kinds of plans for someone whose phone number I don't even have. I explain this to her and tell her I would never date or be in a relationship with her again, but I'm open to remaining friends.

She asks me to meet her for dinner tonight as a let's-be-friends peace offering. Fine with me, I'm not angry - the breakup has been a huge weight off her shoulders.

Now: a flashback. Recently she's had a habit of telling me about how guys hit on her when she's out with friends or working at her bar. I've seen no reason not to trust her, so I brushed it off each time as her wanting to make me jealous or something. Stupid mind games. One of those times, six weeks ago, she was talking about some 23-year old who hit on her, she was making fun of him, etc.. Made it sound like she'd blown him off.

While eating, we're talking about what each of us is doing after - she's going to watch a movie with... the aforementioned 23-year old.

So the entire time she's been accusing me of cheating (wrongly, in complete honesty I haven't even thought about seeing anyone else since we got together), getting mad that I'm not on the verge of moving in with her and spending all our time together, she's had his number and been in contact. (I do believe that she hadn't seen him or cheated on me, though.)

I really want to send her a message now pointing out the hypocrisy, but I should be the bigger person and cut her out of my life completely, right?

smashing aspirant (milo z), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link

absolutely

blarinet (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

get your iphone back first though

囧 (dyao), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link

does this feel like a weight off your shoulders as well? It seemed like you were at the end of your rope w/her before.

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Er, yeah, meant weight off my shoulders actually. Had a great, stress-free weekend. Drinking, girls already have co-workers and friends they want to set me up with, etc.

But now I'm just tremendously pissed. I was okay if it was just her being kind of nuts, but I feel shitty about the way I let her manipulate me into being defensive about nothing when she was thinking about cheating or dropping that "let's date other people" thing on me (all the while being pissed that I wasn't comfortable telling her I was in love).

smashing aspirant (milo z), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link

in love with her or some other girl?

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link

get your iphone back first though

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being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:19 (fourteen years ago) link

did you think about the fact that you had all those text messages on it when you gave it to her? I may totally be overthinking this, but to me it feels like some subconscious desire to be honest w/her and extend trust when it seems like you were conflicted about these things before.

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link

don't fall from the higher moral ground at this late stage, you're some kind of saint to make it this far halo intact tbh

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link

She wanted me to tell her I was in love with her, I would tell her that I didn't know if I was, it was early in the relationship (we were friends with benefits for six months, then actually in a relationship for six months).

I probably will not get the iPhone back. It's worth the $50 I'd get just to never see her again, honestly.

I didn't think about the texts at all, when she lost her phone I just found my old one and took it over.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link

see, that's the first thing i would have thought of - i can't imagine that guys, in general, don't give as much thought to these privacy issues as women do. Or do they?

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Feeling much better after venting now. Maybe I need a livejournal.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

it's great that you have friends wanting to set you up and stuff. It seems like you're better off.

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm in a similar situation to yours milo - all I can say is stick to your guns

囧 (dyao), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link

john woo style

like having an eternal kazoo in your underwear (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link

see, that's the first thing i would have thought of - i can't imagine that guys, in general, don't give as much thought to these privacy issues as women do. Or do they?

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also the first thing i would've done. not even out of some paranoid fear, it just seems like good practice

being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link

you have to admit text messages on an iphone look so pretty it's hard NOT to read them

囧 (dyao), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link

she could have deleted them before reading them or ignored them, but the fact she read them seems pretty understandable and a common impulse.

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I just assumed she'd erase and install with her backup. There wasn't anything private enough on there that I'd be worried about it being lost and someone getting the info, and I just assumed she trusted me as I trusted her. And I was open about how much her drinking bothered me.

If it happened again with another girl, I probably still wouldn't erase. It just seems unnecessary, if I'm giving it to someone I'm in a relationship with.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - oh, yeah, I wasn't pissed that she pried into them, really. It was her reaction (reading into them info that didn't exist, etc.) that bothered me

smashing aspirant (milo z), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link

if everything you've said to anyone else is something you would feel comfortable saying to her or in front of her, in that particular tone, I could agree. But from my experience, there are always things for which that isn't the case, no matter how much you care for and love your partner.

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Reading into things is natural - though unfortunate - but yeah, my sympathies.

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link

it is not reasonable and it is to be expected that you share any genuinely important information as and when it becomes an issue; i am not being idealistic to say that for intelligent folks like yourselves this is the only way it can and should work, and if you can't find a partner who agrees, then that relationship is expendable

like having an eternal kazoo in your underwear (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link

we're also back to the cheating vs. reading the diary business.

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:07 (fourteen years ago) link

is she still reading this thread?

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link

hi hoos' ex!

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like having an eternal kazoo in your underwear (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link

btw - i named a feral cat after LJ.

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, totally, it was never an issue with my ex before, and she had a lot of opportunities. My feeling is that she was (consciously or un-) looking for a reason to justify talking with the 23-year old or wanting to see him, and having my backlog of texts was an opportunity to look for a reason.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:22 (fourteen years ago) link

finding a reason not to trust you or evidence of some wrongdoing on your part to justify hers?

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:24 (fourteen years ago) link

The latter.

It's the way she sprung that "I want to date other people and you" line then read more old texts (a week after she'd read through them the first time) and came up with a reason to call me an asshole.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:31 (fourteen years ago) link

and presumably mr. 23 year old isn't gonna give her shit about drinking too much?

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Probably, but I don't know. She's seemed serious about cutting back, particularly as she got arrested for a second DWI the night before Thanksgiving (and was too embarrassed to tell me for a week). But then it sounds like she spent the entire weekend drunk...

smashing aspirant (milo z), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link

it's hard when your partner has a serious problem and you need to confront them and tell them they need to fix it, because people expect/want romantic relationships to be more or less unconditional love, it almost flies in the face of that expectation to have your partner tell you that "there is something wrong with you that I can't deal with." This happened to a friend of mine recently, who also ended up breaking up w/his girlfriend as a result of it.

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:39 (fourteen years ago) link

get your iphone back first though

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tehresa, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link

i would not be shocked if she registered and lurked

what u think i steen for to push a crawfish? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link

would you be shocked if she sb'd you tho

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link

no I think he'd feel sb'd

囧 (dyao), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link

shock banned???

being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 05:00 (fourteen years ago) link

sometime boyfriend

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 05:01 (fourteen years ago) link

The ex I posted about back months ago is pretty much out of sight, out of mind. The funny thing is that friends will occasionally ask me questions about things they've recently heard about or seen her do and it's all so clear how nonsensical it all is. Life makes so much sense now!

mh, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

it's great when that happens.

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

otm

what u think i steen for to push a crawfish? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

have had quite a few things totally make sense now moments recently, but I'm not going to go into it here.

sarahel, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

get your iphone back first though

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you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Things I'm enjoying:

Not having to be nice when she talks about the brilliance of Dean Koontz or her historical romance novels
Not having to be nice when she talks about the telephone medium who totally knew impossible things about her dead brother
Not having to bite my tongue when she criticized people for smoking pot and/or getting overly drunk
Not having to hear that a 3-year old could have painted that Miro/Pollock/etc.

Not to give the picture that it was constant misery (we did get along, obv) but all of the above stick out as having occurred multiple times.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Not having to hear that a 3-year old could have painted that Miro/Pollock/etc

ex gf otm tho

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:39 (fourteen years ago) link

the only 3-year-old whose art I admire more than pollock's is Hunter Age 3

southern dads get tuckered out, totally (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:45 (fourteen years ago) link

ex gf otm tho

oh dude, ZZZZZZ

stop grieving, it's only a challops (stevie), Thursday, 17 December 2009 12:03 (fourteen years ago) link

:)

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2009 12:26 (fourteen years ago) link

^ self portrait, est. €7m

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2009 12:26 (fourteen years ago) link

stfu

plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 20 December 2009 01:08 (fourteen years ago) link

He's finally moving out. Looking forward to living alone for the first time ever.

sarahel, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link

good luck!

velko, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:27 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm getting tough!

sarahel, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:27 (fourteen years ago) link

question for everyone: is it reasonable or unreasonable to ask that your ex's new partner with whom said ex was cheating on you not be allowed into your place to help the ex move, even if you aren't there? I've gotten conflicting opinions on this.

sarahel, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:31 (fourteen years ago) link

nah she can go fuck herself imo

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i think if you are not there it is fine

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link

it is maybe a bit unreasonable but it's your place now so he has to deal. she can carry the boxes from the front door to the truck imo

velko, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

say ok then shoot her, isn't that safe in the US?

Not a reactionary git, just an idiot. (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:36 (fourteen years ago) link

(disclaimer that is not my actual advice 2u)

Not a reactionary git, just an idiot. (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:36 (fourteen years ago) link

too late

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:38 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - if I shoot her, then I won't get to enjoy living alone in my awesome apartment.

sarahel, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:38 (fourteen years ago) link

cmon she can't even have locked and loaded before i rescinded, i'm not takin the rap for this

xp phew

Not a reactionary git, just an idiot. (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i think it's not at all unreasonable to not want to have her in your home when you're not there.

estela, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link

congratulations to your ex for finding someone so insensitive to share his life with though.

estela, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link

agree that it is not unreasonable. also you have been pretty damn reasonable about everything else, so he should maybe try being a little bit sensitive on this issue.

DAN P3RRY MAD AT GRANDMA (just1n3), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link

the hussy goes not inside.

this is law.

goole, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link

is your right to be unreasonable, in the constitution it says

welcome to gudbergur (harbl), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i'll tell him a lawyer told me so!

sarahel, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link

ok! does anyone else want me to tell them something

welcome to gudbergur (harbl), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link

it was apparently too much for you to ask, "I am taking this chair downstairs to the dumpster unless you want it."

I have your keys now. You are gone.

sarahel, Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:03 (fourteen years ago) link

yay!

tehresa, Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:04 (fourteen years ago) link

good riddance imo

tehresa, Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:05 (fourteen years ago) link

it was a serious lol when I locked him out - accidentally - on NYE

sarahel, Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link

<3

estela, Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not gonna presume that people want to hear the story, but if you do, i will post about it.

sarahel, Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i always want to hear about drama tbh

DAN P3RRY MAD AT GRANDMA (just1n3), Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i do too, i <3 trouble, it's my fatal flaw.

estela, Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:12 (fourteen years ago) link

http://filmsnoir.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/ilovetrouble.jpg

l-r: estela, trouble

velko, Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:16 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.freeclassicimages.com/images/i_love_trouble_1948.jpg

velko, Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:17 (fourteen years ago) link

my NYE story:

I told him I would help him move a load of stuff over to his new apartment, which is only about 15 blocks away from where I live, but he had to carry all the boxes, I would just drive. He doesn't drive. I sat in the car and texted a friend the entire time he was carrying boxes to and from the car.

Before I left, he asked me what my plans were. I told him I was going to a private party at some friends' house to which he hadn't been invited, even though they are mutual friends.

He said he might go to this other big warehouse party. I said I might stop by that party later. He said, "I'll see you later." I left.

After 4 glasses of wine, a big meal, and three glasses of champagne, I get home at 2:30am. He isn't there. His bed is disassembled. I had told him the week before that I thought it was fair if he paid pro-rated rent for any days in January his stuff was still in the apartment. This came as a shock to him, but he had accepted this, and had said that he would try to be out by December 31, then.

I assumed that he was not planning on sleeping at our apartment, so I put the chain on the door. I woke up at 10:30am and there was a voice mail message from him on my cell phone from approx. 4:30am. Why he didn't call the landline which has a very loud ring and would probably have woken me up, I don't know. The first sentence, "So...are you trying to tell me something?" Then he said something about not going to the big warehouse party because I had said I might stop by with the obvious intent of making me feel guilty, though the party was being thrown and performed at by mutual friends, and I had said nothing about wishing he wasn't there if I were there. There was more to the message, but those were the highlights.

sarahel, Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i would say 'yes, i am trying to tell you something: GTFO OF MY LIFE'

tehresa, Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:22 (fourteen years ago) link

ha ha ha - felt like calling back and leaving a message that was just laughter and "Whoops!" But I politely apologized and said that I thought he was sleeping at his new gf's place.

sarahel, Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:24 (fourteen years ago) link

your method of combining irreproachable actions with inscrutable thought bubbles is to be commended.

estela, Sunday, 3 January 2010 08:08 (fourteen years ago) link

you have maintained your dignity and behaved with honour and that is to be commended also. now i hope you have a very nice new life.

estela, Sunday, 3 January 2010 08:09 (fourteen years ago) link

that's for sarahel just in case it sounds like i'm breaking up with someone and showering them with compliments while i do it.

estela, Sunday, 3 January 2010 08:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Congrats on finally getting him out. I just gotta say though:

question for everyone: is it reasonable or unreasonable to ask that your ex's new partner with whom said ex was cheating on you not be allowed into your place to help the ex move, even if you aren't there? I've gotten conflicting opinions on this.

AND

I told him I would help him move a load of stuff over to his new apartment, which is only about 15 blocks away from where I live, but he had to carry all the boxes, I would just drive. He doesn't drive.

Did he not have friends? Couldn't rent a Uhaul? It is either SAD or COLD that he had to rely on his ex-girlfriend or new girlfriend to help him move. Sorry Sarah. I'm just astonished by this guy. What a fucktard.

I have to say, the door chain incident is an awesome touch, unintentional though it may be.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, 3 January 2010 12:11 (fourteen years ago) link

lol sarahel i am so glad this guy is GONE from yr life - i dunno, if i had done the shitty thing he had done, i'd be feeling pretty shitty about myself and would be walking on eggshells around you, not acting like a self-centred prick like he is!!

what i think is funniest is that you are being outwardly v calm and collected and adult, while he seems to be ~trying~ to create emotional drama. maybe he is upset that you didn't kick up more of a fuss about the breakup!

DAN P3RRY MAD AT GRANDMA (just1n3), Sunday, 3 January 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

thanks guys - yeah, i think a lot of the tension has been that he wants to be angry and resentful, but he isn't a total asshole and realizes that those feelings are totally unjustified, so he just feels shittier.

sarahel, Monday, 4 January 2010 04:39 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp - he did get a friend to help with the heavy stuff - this was after I suggested to him that he should rely on people other than those he is/was screwing, especially considering one of his complaints in the relationship was that he wanted more independence and so much of what he did involved me, not that he ever said anything about this being a problem while we were together.

sarahel, Monday, 4 January 2010 04:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i've always found it ridiculous when people's only friends are current or former sex partners -- this may/may not be related to what's being discussed. drnkkkkkkkkkkkkk

S.E., we runnin' this FAP shit (roxymuzak), Monday, 4 January 2010 07:16 (fourteen years ago) link

it is related. he has other friends. he has trouble asking people for help, even when he is fucking them. Uh, not to be confused with while he's fucking them.

sarahel, Monday, 4 January 2010 07:18 (fourteen years ago) link

his communication skills in bed are comparable to his communication skills outside of bed - the problem with this, is, when having sex you have just one common goal - outside of bed, it could be anything. not sober, btw.

sarahel, Monday, 4 January 2010 07:30 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

S.E., we runnin' this FAP shit (roxymuzak), Monday, 4 January 2010 07:41 (fourteen years ago) link

hahah

caek, Monday, 4 January 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

i've always found it ridiculous when people's only friends are current or former sex partners

quoted for truth

mh, Monday, 4 January 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I hate when a partner forgets that she has a) friends b) ambition c) talent. But I've come to terms with this, realizing that maybe, biologically, there are gals who "clear their plate" when getting into something serious because their body is getting ready to take care of a baby 24/7.

The Hood Won't Jump (Eazy), Monday, 4 January 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I know what you're saying, but... no

mh, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

um lol

jortin shartgent (harbl), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

uh wow

tehresa, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm gonna use that as an excuse for everything from now on though

jortin shartgent (harbl), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

are we allowed to be unsupportive on the getting over a breakup thread? because um. 'biologically'.

lords of hyrule (c sharp major), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

wait as in they're literally getting ready to take care of a baby or the entrance into a serious relationship triggers similar instincts, in your opinion?

sarahel, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i think he is saying entering a srs relationship puts them into 'nesting mode' or something but uh...

tehresa, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah 'biological' is uh.jpg, but i dunno, some people do that. not just people, some relationships invite that or happen that way, healthy or not

goole, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

did he kick her out of the nest just as she was building it? I'm still confused.

sarahel, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

some people don't have ambition, talent, or friends but it's not because their body is preparing for a baby

jortin shartgent (harbl), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I must admit I have never heard this "clearing plate" theory.

quincie, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

neither had I! which is funny, cos "girls who dump their friends cos they've got a boyfriend" is observational-comedy common, so you'd expect scientistic explanations.

lords of hyrule (c sharp major), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Nesting is all I mean. It's my way of saying to myself, maybe there's some reason other than codependency that they're giving up all of these things.

The Hood Won't Jump (Eazy), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

this isn't thread to get over a not-breakup

goole, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

is this someone you're thinking about breaking up with? Broke up with?

sarahel, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I was just responding to "people who don't have any friends except the people sleep/have-slept with" and offering barroom science.

The Hood Won't Jump (Eazy), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't know any people like that, i don't think.

sarahel, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Because they don't have any friends, sarah.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

oh right! But maybe they post on ilx?

sarahel, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

XD

kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

i was specifically referring to a man, iirc

S.E., we runnin' this FAP shit (roxymuzak), Monday, 18 January 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Hi guys, longtime reader, first time caller.

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 5 February 2010 07:26 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry : (

i've been spending the last few months trying not to breakup

velko, Friday, 5 February 2010 07:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I fell off the ex-sex wagon this week.

The next night she promptly got wasted and texted me talking some minor shit and reminded me why I dumped her lol.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Friday, 5 February 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

as in you had it, or you stopped having it?

sarahel, Friday, 5 February 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Had it.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Friday, 5 February 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't beat yourself up over it. Just don't do it again if it made you feel really horrible.

sarahel, Friday, 5 February 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, no, no guilt or horror. Our sex life was always great, I just didn't like her that much outside of the bedroom at the end. I told her up front that even in the event we continue sexing while we're both single, that's all it would ever be.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Friday, 5 February 2010 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

do it again until it makes you feel horrible

mh, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

given that her entire family was with her i think yr tactics are not indefensible. also, it's fun to have a little self-made adventure now and then.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 20 March 2010 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Unless she's going to start screaming at you in the middle of the restaurant, seems pretty unnecessary. (by pretty, I mean completely)

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Saturday, 20 March 2010 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link

shouldn't judge a hoos imho. these situations are like panic stations all around.

Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Saturday, 20 March 2010 11:12 (fourteen years ago) link

A+++++++ post :D

12 monkeys of sex (acoleuthic), Saturday, 20 March 2010 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link

geez sorry hoos

call all destroyer, Monday, 22 March 2010 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link

:-(

t(o_o)t (ENBB), Monday, 22 March 2010 03:02 (fourteen years ago) link

damn homie

billion holla baby (roxymuzak), Monday, 22 March 2010 04:18 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry hoos

quincie, Monday, 22 March 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Man, I would think doing anything other than acknowledging she was there would give her power, hoos! I really just ignore or give a polite nod to my ex's presence/friends/family if they're near me. I mean, unless you're in a situation that directly requires you to force a positive/negative interaction, then... they're just other people who happen to be in your vicinity.

OTOH, my ex was in some online poll my friends told me about after a week after it started and let me know they'd been voting against her for a couple days. We had some jokes about fixing it, then I went on with my life. Really, I think other people worry about that shit more than I do, although I appreciate it.

mh, Monday, 22 March 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, update:

My friends let me know the chick I broke up with in epic burnout fashion last year is still unemployed, lives in her overpriced condo, and has now adopted a dog in addition to her two cats! She also was doing some random traveling for a bit. I am guessing either her overly kind parents are doing some serious bankrolling. Glad it's not me.

mh, Monday, 22 March 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

hi hoos' exes!

LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Monday, 22 March 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link

also wtg dude :(

LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Monday, 22 March 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link

pretty sure mh's ex has a sweet life

no more springs no more summers no more falls (sunny successor), Thursday, 25 March 2010 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I hope for a Hoos's heart to heal with ease. *non-tangible hug*

demonic splendor, demonic majesty (Abbott), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry to hear about the breakup BHakaTSD. be well.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 30 March 2010 01:54 (fourteen years ago) link

dag exes reading is always a fear of mine.

co-signed what Daniel said.

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link

sup exes of the world

billion holla baby (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 07:16 (fourteen years ago) link

saw the dude i started this thread about out last night and we talked a bit. he told me he wasn't doing or accomplishing anything except musical stuff. i told him that that counts. he was nice, asked me what i thought about his band and told me he always valued my opinions about "things"

billion holla baby (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 07:18 (fourteen years ago) link

"oh i can point you to some other opinions about you online if you like?"

egregious apostrophising (schlump), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Crazy-ass ex got banned from the bar we'd always go to! My life just got even easier.

mh, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link

my dumb ex just saw me on the street next to my newly obtained car and actually asked if i would drive him out of state on a vacation so he could shop for records and do fun things.

wtf? drive yourself. oh, wait. you sold your car for booze money. lolz.

mr. waffles (Nijoli), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link

man sorry to hear bout that hoos

max, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

^haha, i read this as meaning that nij's ex was hoos, and you were sorry to hear he sold his car for booze $ lol

billion holla baby (roxymuzak), Friday, 2 April 2010 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

aw, poor hoos selling his car for booze.

mr. waffles (Nijoli), Friday, 2 April 2010 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link

BIG BOOZE aka the nolongeradriver

mr. waffles (Nijoli), Friday, 2 April 2010 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Carnt you get one of those Brazilian cars that runs on the alcohol? Then you get a car AND booze!

all the pure blonde you could drink (King Boy Pato), Friday, 2 April 2010 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Hello, thread. Didn't think I'd be seeing you.

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Monday, 5 April 2010 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Bf decided we broke up last thursday (not in a very clear way either, just "i guess we'll be doing this ok we'll have to sort stuff out" way). 1 day later I have to go on an interstate trip he was meant to come with me on, bt ditched on me as "too weird now".

He was busy, 1-2 days later, fucking the new chick he's seeing, and going to the gig I wanted to see with him real badly but thought we'd miss because we'd both be interstate.

So basically he ditched me and all our prior committments because it was just easier to go have fun and not think about it.

Dear males; can at least one of you not turn out to be a total cunt? That'd be super.

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Monday, 5 April 2010 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link

can't really defend the y chromosome on this one :/

william mcgonadal's tay ridge disaster (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm just a magnet for it I suppose.

The irony of this situation is my ex is now going to be my roomie. Oh, my life.

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Monday, 5 April 2010 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link

The worst thing is this guy has been one of my closest friends for 10 years, and my partner for 2. He's completely betrayed me and I dont know if I can even handle the thought of being a friend anymore. He seems baffled by this. WHAT IS WRONG WITH HIM.

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Monday, 5 April 2010 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh man Trayce that is the worst kind of dogballs. You can email me if you want to vent some more.

how is abbott formed (Abbott), Monday, 5 April 2010 03:44 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 Abb thank you I appreciate it.

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Monday, 5 April 2010 03:45 (fourteen years ago) link

aw t sorry <3

mookieproof, Monday, 5 April 2010 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Jesus Christ trayce, that dude fucking sucks. Also I am really sorry that you have to go through this shit, but most importantly, srsly, that guy can fuck off.

HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Monday, 5 April 2010 05:35 (fourteen years ago) link

T, if I see him next time in Melbourne, I'll fucken glass him.

all the pure blonde you could drink (King Boy Pato), Monday, 5 April 2010 08:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Aheheh I appreciate yr rage, KBP, but hey. People are idiots. I did the same to someone 2-3 years back so its hard for me to be so whiny about this tbh. Life goes on.

Thanks all tho, hey.

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Monday, 5 April 2010 08:56 (fourteen years ago) link

that fuckin blows trayce. you deserve way better than that asshole.

still driving steen, banning deez, gettin my dick xhuxked (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 5 April 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

:(

sorry trayce

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Monday, 5 April 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I feel like this has been a big karmic fuck-you in my face ;_; (for reasons I dont wanna go into)

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Monday, 5 April 2010 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I have to say reading the break-up threads has pretty much helped me get through tonight, at least so far (I'm a lurker- this is my first post). 4 AM in a city in which I still have no real friends, where I moved with my now-ex 6 months ago, and she hasn't come home after going out to party with her friends. Got my shit packed, boxes and bags all around me. I guess I can take comfort knowing this is as bad as it gets. Eyes won't even close.

casual rigmarole, Saturday, 10 April 2010 09:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Since much of my life has been on display in ILX (however elliptically), I guess this is the point where I finally admit that I've been separated from my wife since October. Nothing awful or terrible happened, we just realized that however great we were as boyfriend/girlfriend we just really suck at being married.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 10 April 2010 09:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Aw man I'm sorry to hear that Elvis.

Aqua Backrat (ENBB), Saturday, 10 April 2010 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, sorry to hear that.

i've been "broke up" - this is a bit of a misnomer because we never were really going out with each other, although we saw each other fairly often, talked daily, told each other we loved each other etc. - for two months now from girl i was seeing for 7 months, which is the longest i've ever lasted with a girl. We weren't right for each other but i think i might have ruined being single for myself, it's not as cool as it used to be!

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 10 April 2010 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link

on the other-hand i think i might have gotten over my commitment-phobia so maybe a good thing!

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 10 April 2010 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry elvis and c-r--hang in there

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 April 2010 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

if it makes you feel better 8 months was my record. but yea, singledom feels a lot better when it is a chosen lifestyle than when it is suddenly decided for you :/.

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 10 April 2010 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

hugs to all the broken-hearted of ilx. It totally sucks but really does get better with time iirc. In the meantime you muddle through and take good care of yourself.

quincie, Saturday, 10 April 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

lame words, but feeling for you guys. quincie's got good advice.

Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 April 2010 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

hay when does the irrational crying and ridiculous self loathing stop k it's been 4 months now and it sucks bad...:/

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Sunday, 11 April 2010 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry dude. Just try to keep yourself distracted. I, for example, have been considering in depth and perhaps researching how I would go about assassinating Antonin Scalia. And I have also been drunk for some days now and living alone in an increasingly apocalyptically ruined apartment. Each must find his own path. Now is the time for ascetic experiments, I think.

casual rigmarole, Sunday, 11 April 2010 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link

this is, admittedly, horrible advice. depending on how you consider it.

casual rigmarole, Sunday, 11 April 2010 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link

yea I just gotta quit drinking as much.

doesn't help that I see my ex a lot and hear about her 'cavorts' with her 'new guys' all the time. good on her then. we'll see how well they treat her when they learn about her psychic abilities

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Sunday, 11 April 2010 04:24 (fourteen years ago) link

you don't have to listen to her talk about "her 'new guys'" if it's hurting you iirc

ksh, Sunday, 11 April 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link

well it's not that she talks about it to me, i overheard it tonight.....while out with a large group of friends i'd just done a show with

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Sunday, 11 April 2010 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, that makes sense. i hope things get better for you, dude.

ksh, Sunday, 11 April 2010 05:00 (fourteen years ago) link

quincie's advice OTM to everyone going through this.

Pretty much channeled all ambient energy into two efforts: being a better musician/writer, being a better programmer (new job skills = better income -> $$$ to buy cool studio stuff). If I didn't have that, I'd just drunkenly stare into the television all night.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 11 April 2010 05:02 (fourteen years ago) link

thx guys. the alcohol is wearing off and I've emoted most of it out tonight. I think after a sleep it'll be a non-issue tomorrow.

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Sunday, 11 April 2010 06:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i want to hear more about these psychic abilities

no more springs no more summers no more falls (sunny successor), Saturday, 17 April 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

also, i got to say i don t regret any break up. eventually you realize its the best thing that could have happened to you.

no more springs no more summers no more falls (sunny successor), Saturday, 17 April 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i lurk too. last weekend my first long term girlfriend came in from new york. we hadn't seen each other for over five years but the ease of affection and laughter was as imbued in the past as the it was in the present. we slept together. that morning, the police knocked on my door. the girl i dated and lived with subsequently, and who i had had a terrible break-up with, had her laptop stolen. she told the robbery cops that 'i wouldn't let her get her thesis done' and by way of a leap of logic, i had obviously stolen the computer to this end.

so, even if you get over breakups, they might come to haunt you in particular ways.

lion in winter, Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

um parts a and b of that story don't appear to have any connection other than a woolly temporal one

maybe rabbits feel the need to play up their 'lynchian' qualities (acoleuthic), Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

helluva story

velko, Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

lj, the two don't know each other and i obviously only speak to the former. but it was like the ghosts of ex-girlfriends past. just a particular moment in time when nearly a decade of my life showed up simultaneously in different ways. i was a little stressed out last saturday afternoon.

plus, you can't steal a thesis, it's an intangible.

lion in winter, Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

unless they're writing it on papyrus and you hide the scrolls in your backpack

ksh, Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

it is interesting that the two strands would come together like that, simultaneously, but i wouldn't put anything down to cosmic agency. was it quite clear that your reluming of the flame was nothing more than a slight, slight return? the ideal twist here would be if your ex-ex was the one who stole the laptop. and only you know this. but you have fallen in love with her again.

maybe rabbits feel the need to play up their 'lynchian' qualities (acoleuthic), Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

agreed. but, as much as i like literature, even coming close to living it makes me pine for ativan or something.

when i was speaking with my friend that afternoon and he asked how i was, i said 'not good. but give me 72 hours, i'll have turned it into an anecdote.'

lion in winter, Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

an anecdote offered to the unwashed mashes of ILX

ksh, Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

masses iirc

ksh, Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

and lo!

btw, was it quite clear that your reluming of the flame was nothing more than a slight, slight return?

maybe rabbits feel the need to play up their 'lynchian' qualities (acoleuthic), Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

unless we are all potatoes

ksh, Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i wish to live vicariously through your heartshock

or swedes

maybe rabbits feel the need to play up their 'lynchian' qualities (acoleuthic), Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

sour mash

Check this, in fact. How exciting. He literally cuts the mustard. (snoball), Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

it wasn't slight (that being a generally unacceptable adjective with regard to matters of love past, present or future) and to say it was comforting (ease of laughter) would be downplaying as well. i can say this: i've priced flights to new york.

hi unwashed masses. i've known y'all silently for a while now.

lion in winter, Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i can say this: i've priced flights to new york.

<3

glad to have baited this out of you. please keep us informed!

maybe rabbits feel the need to play up their 'lynchian' qualities (acoleuthic), Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

surely.

lion in winter, Saturday, 17 April 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

now i'm wondering quite how many unknown people are au fait with my manifold idiocies :/

:D

maybe rabbits feel the need to play up their 'lynchian' qualities (acoleuthic), Saturday, 17 April 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i was thinking about that the other day. oh ilx, how many lurkers haunt your corridors

ksh, Saturday, 17 April 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link

iirc there are more people currently lurking on ilx than all who have ever posted from day one combined

just darraghmac tbh (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 April 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

many of us (i assume) wouldn't mind a presence. but introductions can go badly and i'm not about to jump on one of the WDYLL threads.

i guess i'll get off breakup thread and go revive greetings, all.

lion in winter, Sunday, 18 April 2010 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link

imo random threads you have an interest in is as good a way as any- the greetings thread can be awkward enough really. always makes me think of rick moranis talking to the whole room at once at his own party in ghostbusters for some reason

just darraghmac tbh (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 April 2010 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Second weekend in a row that my (now ex) bf has been away, with his new flame. Still cannot get my head or heart around how quickly this all happened when things had been pretty normal, happy, future plans afoot etc etc. If he'd just broken up with me for the "I dont want to settle down" reason he initially claimed, that would be one thing. It had come up before, and he is a lot younger than me.

But for himto jump ship right into the arms of another girl within days... and still be living in my house the rest of the time... words are failing me, questions are piling up. I honestly thought R was The One. I wanted to marry him :(

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Sunday, 18 April 2010 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Fuck.

Still living in your house???

ljubljana, Sunday, 18 April 2010 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link

For practical reasons, mainly. I have someone lined up to move in but financially it needs to wait a bit. Also, he's actually the gall to say its easier to stay here... some fluff about us remaining friends - which I would like - but it seems to be a convenience more than anything. Everyone's telling me he's a little cheaty arsehole and it hurts to even contemplate this about someone Ive known for so long.

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Sunday, 18 April 2010 02:56 (fourteen years ago) link

(I mean, I know he's a flirty flighty person, and he didnt cheat on me, but .. yeah ugh)

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Sunday, 18 April 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

It's easier to stay there, is it??
There's nothing wrong with remaining friends (and the finance part can't be helped) but can't see his logic that staying right now at just this moment will make it easier.

ljubljana, Sunday, 18 April 2010 03:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Easier for him - he doesnt have to suffer finding somewhere to live when he has nowhere to go and not enough money! Stuff that though. It really has been hard.

Sucks. :/

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Sunday, 18 April 2010 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link

kick that asshole out imo

max, Sunday, 18 April 2010 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Logic agrees. Hard to think of kicking yr bff #1 to the kerb tho :(

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Sunday, 18 April 2010 04:07 (fourteen years ago) link

it really doesn't seem like he's treating you the way a bff should treat someone, though, tbh

ksh, Sunday, 18 April 2010 04:13 (fourteen years ago) link

imho the whole 'do what you need to do for you' positioning is a) never certain and b) never going to be.

if you can make it through this now, and still care about someone who you clearly do... well, i think that's better, no?

lion in winter, Sunday, 18 April 2010 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah trayce - it sucks but at this point he is not your bff by any means

babbylon falling (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 18 April 2010 04:22 (fourteen years ago) link

another thing to keep in mind is, still being attached to someone who might not be as attached to you can, in certain circumstances, be really, really painful, because they might do things that really hurt you and not be too worried about it, but you won't want to drop them because you're still attached to them. kind of puts them in a position of having a lot of power over you, which is never good, imo. sometimes you do have to just take care of yourself. not saying that's necessarily anyone's case here, but it's something to think about.

ksh, Sunday, 18 April 2010 04:22 (fourteen years ago) link

again, not necessarily anyone's case here, but: when any close relationship--romantic or otherwise--starts to enter a prolonged period of someone feeling like the other person doesn't really value them or treat them well anymore, unless talking through the major issues works solves them, it's probably time to evaluate whether staying in that relationship is worth it. everyone should feel supported, listened to, and cared for in any close relationship, really.

ksh, Sunday, 18 April 2010 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link

unless talking through the major issues works solves them

ksh, Sunday, 18 April 2010 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, all very true :/

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Sunday, 18 April 2010 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, Trayce, what a meltdown. My best pal let her ex keep living with her for four months after they broke up. It sounded really lonely & painful. This was six years ago, but still sometimes she'll mention how she would have felt a lot better, about life and herself, if she'd have said, "Just move in with the new chick, or figure something out, but get out of here." She's her and you're you and I'm not trying to tell you "Trayce, do X bcz I, internets person, know what is best for you." But if you've been entertaining those thoughts, don't ignore them. Also, ****hugs****

kissogram powers (Abbott), Sunday, 18 April 2010 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I feared this eventuality for a long time. It just blows that it came to pass. Starting all over again and thinking of trusting *anyone* is so hard.

Bla bla whine. Sorry.

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Sunday, 18 April 2010 05:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Pretty sure this situation more than entitles you a bit of bla bla whine. and this is really the thread for it. mega sorry trayce.

niminy-piminy cricket (Upt0eleven), Sunday, 18 April 2010 10:00 (fourteen years ago) link

an anecdote offered to the unwashed mashes of ILX

Board description!

kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, 18 April 2010 10:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey thanks to you all btw - this is an incredibly difficult thing for me and it means a lot that youse guys have some kind words and good advices.

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Sunday, 18 April 2010 10:16 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 trayce, you'll get through this, take care of yourself and don't worry if you fuck up a bit here and there, there's no perfect way to do anything.

the less worthy part of me can't help thinking he would be a bit less attractive to his new girl if he suddenly had all sort of boring logistical problems.

estela, Sunday, 18 April 2010 10:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I keep wondering similar. Its like.. if I was in her shoes, wtf? I stole someone's guy, well thats a great way to hook up with someone innit?

Gay nineties icecream party (Trayce), Sunday, 18 April 2010 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link

if he has financial troubles, it's the new gf's problem - not yours. he should be shacking up with her if he can't afford something else. why does he want to drag this out for you? you both want to remain friends, but imo this is the sure way to ensure you ~won't~... resentment's gonna start building and it'll eventually destroy any last bit of good will that remains.

just1n3, Sunday, 18 April 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Or if it's unfeasible for him to stay with the girl, can he stay with friends? Even if it had to be a different sofa each week - surely worth it to take the burden off you?

ljubljana, Sunday, 18 April 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

ksh speaks many truths above.

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Sunday, 18 April 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

the less worthy part of me can't help thinking he would be a bit less attractive to his new girl if he suddenly had all sort of boring logistical problems.

perfect point made perfectly. but it would also be a lot easier on you for the time being, and if he can't understand or doesn't care why that's important, then.... y'know?

just darraghmac tbh (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 April 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

my ex and I are finally getting along now but aren't real tight friends. I'm not so sure that's a bad thing. Now, in the words of Jay-Z, "on to the next one"

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Sunday, 18 April 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Last night R came home (finally) and we had a big hugathon and talked baot things, and it was all terribly sad and I don't quite know what to think. But he's at least trying to be good to me.

I cant decide if that makes it better or worse.

Eyjafjallalalalalatrolololol (Trayce), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 06:12 (thirteen years ago) link

it was all terribly sad

:( i feel for u

feel like i need a thread to get over when two friends of mine are breaking up w each other. "it was all terribly sad" is like a recurring keynote in that partic. story. involves a kid from a prev. relationship being "left" again and a few late-night conversations which leave the sucky bleak realities dawning flatly clear through bleary eyes, out there to be looked at and dealt with somehow.

it didn't work out. "it didn't work out". it didn't "work out". it didn't work out. numbly to the next thing, the practicalities. how to tell, what to tell, who goes where now, or when, how will anyone pay for anything. & whatever fresh rounds of hurt there are still left to play out. not my story to tell but it's all terribly sad tbh.

David SBanner (zvookster), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 06:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh god, a kid. I think I need a thread to get over your post. :' (

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link

But he's at least trying to be good to me.

trayce, i feel you, but listen to yourself here. at least hes trying to be good to you?! he broke up with you and is now making your life miserable. you can think of him fondly in a few years, right now, kick him the fuck out.

max, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^

caek, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^

just darraghmac tbh (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

trayce, i feel you, but listen to yourself here. at least hes trying to be good to you?! he broke up with you and is now making your life miserable. you can think of him fondly in a few years, right now, kick him the fuck out.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Delia & Daphne & Celeste (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Check this, in fact. How exciting. He literally cuts the mustard. (snoball), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fetchboy, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
let's dial it back a little

bamcquern, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fuck out

MPSIA (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL. Yes well, thanks all. I guess.

Eyjafjallalalalalatrolololol (Trayce), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link

so my "best friend" and his girl are on facebook, both simultaneously leaving cryptic status updates that suggest something is amiss -- doesn't look like they're fighting, but that something major happened and both of them are upset. It just strikes me as poor taste to do something like this. I don't think any of us need to see the intimate interworkings of their relationship struggle, no more than we need to be constantly assaulted with their nauseating hyperbolic love notes that they send every hour on the hour. Just feel like if they want help and support from their friends, they should ask for it rather than indirectly hint that they need it. Plus it's uncomfortable because you know, do you say anything, or not?

I put "best friend" in air quotes because he is more best friend in name only, raelly another one of my guyf riends who is more reliable has taken his place. I have known him fifteen years, but the only words of support he could muster when I told him I broke up with my ex (the first time) was "sucks". When my dog died, that I was really attached to, his only message to me was "Aw", while other friends called me. Meanwhile, when he got divorced, I did everything possible to help him and be there for him, including moving in (I don't live with him anymore).

So I'm torn as to whether I even feel like offering support at the moment, because he's in his own little world now. But I feel like one of us needs to be the bigger person. Think I'll just wait for him to ask for help. Besides, I'm still having my own issues getting over my last one, which is startin to get ridiculous since we split on Halloween :/. Although I suppose time is not what matters as much as how you feel about the person.

If You Ain't Gonna Wash It, I Ain't Gonna Eat It (Cattle Grind), Monday, 3 May 2010 01:59 (thirteen years ago) link

also note I mean it's awkward that they posted all this on facebok for the world to see.

If You Ain't Gonna Wash It, I Ain't Gonna Eat It (Cattle Grind), Monday, 3 May 2010 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link

lucky it's not awkward for you to go on about it here

Oh boy, Midgard! That's where I'm a Viking! (sic), Monday, 3 May 2010 04:31 (thirteen years ago) link

a bit different iirc

roxymuzak, Monday, 3 May 2010 04:35 (thirteen years ago) link

thread to get over other ppls breakups

mookieproof, Monday, 3 May 2010 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link

it's sad, they were other ppl

controll-s (velko), Monday, 3 May 2010 04:41 (thirteen years ago) link

sic: how are the two even remotely comparable? On Facebook they're using their real names and displaying these personal details for everyone they know to see, which is akin to airing dirty laundry in public. Nobody here knows who my friends are, I haven't named their names or even gone into any specifics of what they posted there. No idea what you're on about.

If You Ain't Gonna Wash It, I Ain't Gonna Eat It (Cattle Grind), Monday, 3 May 2010 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link

we need a thread to get over thread to get over a breakup

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Pooping During A Breakup

Oh boy, Midgard! That's where I'm a Viking! (sic), Monday, 3 May 2010 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link

well some breakups go on for a couple hours, so i'm pretty sure that there's a chance at least of a #2

scrappy dyaoo (darraghmac), Monday, 3 May 2010 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

You could just "hide" both of their updates until it's over, if it's bothering you so much.

just to xp a little bit - Trayce, chuck all his shit on the curb and eat mr noodles for a few months so that you can afford the rent all on your own - don't let this asshole take advantage of you!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 3 May 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Isn't Mr. Noodles an ilxor username?

huh! tikuuta. (kingkongvsgodzilla), Monday, 3 May 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, from waaaaaaaaaaay back in the day

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Monday, 3 May 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

lol well maybe a little early to jump into a new relationship but cheap ramen is always welcome.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 3 May 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

abbott i think its bothering him that he has now seen these updates and does not know how to react

obviously

from what he posted

imo

roxymuzak, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Right, I also thought that the constant barrage of updates was a secondary and minor continuing issue, near as I could tell, which Is why I said what I did.

I considered it, then whatever "it" was apparently blew over. truth be told I have a lot of tweaking to do with my base facebook settings anyway, so this gives me an excuse.

If You Ain't Gonna Wash It, I Ain't Gonna Eat It (Cattle Grind), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Isn't Mr. Noodles an ilxor username?

At first I thought Finefinemusic was referring to the former ILX poster Mr. Noodles, so it was kinda hard to parse her post.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 08:43 (thirteen years ago) link

^ non-native

scrappy dyaoo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 09:16 (thirteen years ago) link

"former ILX poster"

former canado-fascist ilx mod, surely?

control (c sharp major), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 09:44 (thirteen years ago) link

we need a thread to get over thread to get over a breakup

― ksh, Monday, May 3, 2010 12:05 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i lol'd

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 May 2010 09:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Geez so Mr. Noodles the thirty-three cent pack of ramen is a Canadian thing eh? Damn.

Don't eat Mr. Noodles...he might not appreciate that.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link

TBH, back in the day I always confused Mr. Noodles, Noodle Vague, and Donut Christ with each other. It's easier now when only one of them is left.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

how in the world did you confuse donuts and noodles?

Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link

the confusion occurred in finland, the world.

estela, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:45 (thirteen years ago) link

am0n is velko, noodles are donuts, up is down

am0n, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, comments.

"mine is trying to sue me over a dog that was mine to begin with but I dont have her and I left him a yeear ago come july from where he tried to shoot me and then burnt me with a cig"

casual rigmarole, Friday, 7 May 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link

saw guy from OP at karaoke last night where he sang "i'm so lonesome i could cry" and then actually cried

roxymuzak, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

wau.

Fetchboy, Sunday, 9 May 2010 12:03 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

Ralph Nadir (crüt), Monday, 10 May 2010 07:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean it was pretty hilarious

roxymuzak, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 07:06 (thirteen years ago) link

^&%^%$%$#%$#$

Eyjafjallalalalalatrolololol (Trayce), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 04:48 (thirteen years ago) link

you want h-man & i to rough him up?

keeley mod (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 04:59 (thirteen years ago) link

You're not the only ones!

Apparently looking at ONE FLAT today is "doing something" about moving out. Our friend nett1e desperately needs a housemate. But noooo Brunswick is too far from [thought better of what i was going to type here]

Fed up with this.

Eyjafjallalalalalatrolololol (Trayce), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 05:40 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i43.tinypic.com/2ag9t7a.jpg

keeley mod (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 05:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I could not do that to a guitar no matter who owned it ;_;

Eyjafjallalalalalatrolololol (Trayce), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link

So he has a place to go and he is turning it down? That is the situation?

Electricsound, go get your jacket.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link

bags, lawn, now imo

Coalition (Remix) (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Fuck's sake! It's not THAT hard to find a place! Dude's had a month and a half at this point, huh?

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link

It's time to change the locks, Trayce.

you are being taken advantage of, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 12:10 (thirteen years ago) link

that situation has gone beyond anything acceptable at this point

Bo Deadly (Nijoli), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll rent him my shed for cheap. he can use the outside lavvy

keeley mod (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Trayce, is his name on the lease.

no more springs no more summers no more falls (sunny successor), Friday, 14 May 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

he can use the outside lavvy

the writings of paul jennings ingrained the word 'dunny' into my mind and i am disappointed you have not used it here

coalition to me (acoleuthic), Friday, 14 May 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Someone has been watching too much eastenders

no more springs no more summers no more falls (sunny successor), Friday, 14 May 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, cattlegrind you seem to be going through a kind of break up with this 'best friend' too. My suggestion is to wait until he posts something about the girl and comment 'Aw'.
Two birds, one stone.

no more springs no more summers no more falls (sunny successor), Friday, 14 May 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

well now he's back to messages like "<name> is so lucky to be dating teh <sexiest/hottest/cutest> girl in the world" 17 times per hour

Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Friday, 14 May 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Both our names are on the lease and it is still current. Its ok though, I have options.

Eyjafjallalalalalatrolololol (Trayce), Saturday, 15 May 2010 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link

violent options

urkel pit (electricsound), Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Heh.

Pretty down and lonely rite now fwiw.

Eyjafjallalalalalatrolololol (Trayce), Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey Trayce, being alone is better than being with jerks...you're a cool lady! This'll open the door to many more exciting options!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 15 May 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm finally at the point where I think I'm over my ex, at least romantically. So tonight, being that uh I needed some action I went to a strip club after the show.

PRO: The girls were all real nice, one of them gave me a unsolicited compliment about the size of my penis, even asking me if I'd measured it (?), and it was a fun night

CON: I knew dickheads were a plenty when not one but three dancers thanked me for being a gentleman, and mentioned other guys "being dicks". I thought they were just talking, but then I saw it in action. I was getting a lapdance and noticed a guy to my right telling a dancer to get lost because "she embarrassed him". You see, she had the audacity to call him out for touching between her legs, in front of people, even though it's the one cardinal rule that you're not allowed to do. The dancer left, deflated and upset, and I felt bad for her...wanted to slug the dude but well that would have involved me dumping the chick giving me a lapdance on the floor. Besides, not an appropriate response!

Had it not been so crowded and he not disappeared so fast, I'd have reported him to the proprietor and had him thrown out.

Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Sunday, 16 May 2010 08:28 (thirteen years ago) link

cap'n sav-a-stripper

Fetchboy, Sunday, 16 May 2010 08:33 (thirteen years ago) link

that was a beautiful story and with a bonus educational element for would-be gentlemen, i hope your ex doesn't read it or she may never forgive herself for letting you go.

estela, Sunday, 16 May 2010 08:40 (thirteen years ago) link

oh dear

Guns, Computer, The Internet (harbl), Sunday, 16 May 2010 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link

otm

jabba hands, Sunday, 16 May 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Well this thread's taken an odd turn.

Eyjafjallalalalalatrolololol (Trayce), Monday, 17 May 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link

all-time estela impaled-on-summer-breeze hardzing

coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 17 May 2010 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link

wait so who was cattle grind in the end? i'm confused

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 17 May 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Bo Jackson Overshare

Wang Chung Parliament (sic), Monday, 17 May 2010 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I could have sworn that someone posted 'blow jackson overjob' to ILX...maybe it was chatz

coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 17 May 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

ok yeah but who was BJO in the end?

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 17 May 2010 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link

no spoilers

urkel pit (electricsound), Monday, 17 May 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

go sylvia plath yourself

Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Monday, 17 May 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link

id slug you for that but im getting a lapdance

max, Monday, 17 May 2010 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5599/o51logo.gif

ksh, Monday, 17 May 2010 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Thread to get over CattleGrind ruining a thread.

Eyjafjallalalalalatrolololol (Trayce), Monday, 17 May 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link

so uh can we just permaban this guy since he has shown no capacity for using the site for an extended period of time?

call all destroyer, Monday, 17 May 2010 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link

He was a squeaky bo.

ljagljana (kkvgz), Monday, 17 May 2010 11:43 (thirteen years ago) link

bo jackson is like biosphere or something

plax (ico), Monday, 17 May 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

or brillo pad

plax (ico), Monday, 17 May 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean aside from sock master yada yada yada

plax (ico), Monday, 17 May 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

ban Cattle Grind

ksh, Monday, 17 May 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

hardly feel like ur in a position to call for other ppls banning

plax (ico), Monday, 17 May 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

ban plaxico

ksh, Monday, 17 May 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

dude don't even say that

coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 17 May 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

joek

ksh, Monday, 17 May 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

ban l0u1s jagg3r

Police Cool. (crüt), Monday, 17 May 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

^

ksh, Monday, 17 May 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

ban em all, let mod sort em out

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 May 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

^free username btw

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 May 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

no thx

ban em all, let mod sort em out (ksh), Monday, 17 May 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

already been used iirc

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 May 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

btw ban l0u1s jagg3r ftr

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 May 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

GOD MOVE OUT ALREADY YOU LITTLE SHIT *&%^^$%#%$#

demiurge overkill (Trayce), Sunday, 23 May 2010 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Jesus Christ! This fucker has overstayed by far too long.

frozen cookie (Abbott), Monday, 24 May 2010 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Most of the time he's not around, so thats not the prob - its more that poor Nick is waiting, not knowing when he can give notice on *his* old place so he can move in.

LOL i must have cursed the gods right tho cos about 15 mins after that last post R txted me to tell me he got a flat. So there you go.

This whole situation has made me lose all faith in the goodness of anyone, if one of the sweetest and kindest guys Ive ever known can become such a passive, useless, sneaky prat.

demiurge overkill (Trayce), Monday, 24 May 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link

'people save their worst till last,' someone said to me once and i think she was right.

estela, Monday, 24 May 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Alas even I have been guilty of said :(

demiurge overkill (Trayce), Monday, 24 May 2010 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link

every time you say that vanessa williams breaks a fingernail

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 24 May 2010 09:10 (thirteen years ago) link

lol, aw

peacocks, Monday, 24 May 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I still feel like a damn fool

dud rock (crüt), Saturday, 29 May 2010 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know how to get over a break-up, I have always chain-smoked and hated myself. Perhaps that's redundant.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Sunday, 30 May 2010 04:12 (thirteen years ago) link

'people save their worst till last,' someone said to me once and i think she was right.

sucks when you are watching this unfold and people try to make it last past the worst.

tehresa, Sunday, 30 May 2010 04:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah :(

Also Laurel otm :(

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Sunday, 30 May 2010 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I should say, Trayce, that I don't know how the "getting over" happens, but it does. There was a time when I started crying before I got out of bed in the morning and didn't stop until I fell asleep again, and I didn't care who saw me. It was the only thing I had inside, and it had to come out, public embarrassment didn't mean anything compared to the sadness. But one Saturday morning the sunlight looked a certain way and I watered my basil and made some tea or something and realized I was done grieving for the dead relationship. It still made me sad but it was like it had happened to someone else, or 5 years ago -- the immediacy was gone. And that's how it is, at least for me.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually I just remembered what happened and I know I've told this story before: I went to a family bbq with some friends and hung out with the host's kids. I think the kids cured me.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Yep. You told that story last summer to give me some hope when I was going through a rough spot and you know what? It did help. :D

Aqua Backrat (ENBB), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah! The morning after the bbq I sat on my fire escape and just looked at stuff, and it all looked different. It will happen, Trayce. But getting the cancer OUT of your life and OUT OF YOUR HOME would be the first step, yes? Just guessing.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, during my last heartbreak I made a habit of babysitting for a good friend and that little bastard did all sorts of wonders to raise my spirits. And I don't even like kids.

Fetchboy, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Unless of course one of the stated reasons why your ex broke up with you was because they thought you "would make a bad parent" in which case, being around other people's children is like being stabbed repeatedly through the heart with a glass shard...

just saying like, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

or if they never wanted kids...

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

And I don't even like kids.

what a weird thing to say. whats to hate?

no more springs no more summers no more falls (sunny successor), Thursday, 3 June 2010 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link

'people save their worst till last,' someone said to me once and i think she was right.

lawyers have a saying: in criminal law you see bad people acting their best; in divorce law you see good people acting their worst. an overgeneralization, but there's some truth to it.

i would never practice family law. it's too heart-wrenching.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 3 June 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I said "don't like", not "hate". I have very little patience for hissy fits and absolutely zero interest in changing diapers. Luckily this kid was potty trained and well-behaved while I was around.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 3 June 2010 07:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Children are of no use to anybody but their parents until they're able to have a conversation.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Thursday, 3 June 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

um nobody likes children xcept for their parents iirc

plax (ico), Thursday, 3 June 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

but theyre so pure and you can totally fuck with their minds. honestly ive never met an adult who has anything to say that comes even close to as interesting as a 2-5 year old does.

no more springs no more summers no more falls (sunny successor), Friday, 4 June 2010 04:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Laurel - thanks, yeah I do feel like I am starting to come out the other side of this, finally. R is technically not living with me anymore (as in, he hasnt stayed in the house for about a week now) and just has to move the last of his few things out. I dont mind that - we're still friendly to each other, there's no major animosity in the immediate sense.

But every time I see him I just start crying. Even though the rest of the time I am fine.

And don't get me started on the new bitch. The very sight of her name makes me tense up and want to slap a ho. Unfair perhaps, but kneejerk.

Still - tonight, I shall gather myself together, meet up with dear N (he has been a rock to me) and go out to a bar/club and hang out with my homies. And have Fun, Dammit.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Friday, 4 June 2010 04:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Kinda feel like you need to get really mad at this guy

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 08:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, you should be way more pissed at him than you are at her.

Fetchboy, Friday, 4 June 2010 10:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Perhaps. But as the Wedding Present once sang, "why didn't you just say no?".

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link

(that applies to them both, obv).

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link

applies to him a lot more, imo.

But in any case she's not responsible for his shitty behaviour since day one of this.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Kinda feel like you need to get really mad at this guy

― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, June 4, 2010 1:57 AM (12 hours ago)

give her time

sarahel, Friday, 4 June 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

well hello

plax (ico), Friday, 4 June 2010 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i've just started thinking about dealing with breakups of ltr's like dealing with being sick. It's hard because i'm a horrible invalid - i get too impatient about wanting to get "well" already, and then i end up being sicker longer because i try and go about my life as if i'm perfectly healthy.

sarahel, Friday, 4 June 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

thread to get over a breakup (with ILX)

BUT IT WOULD BE A CHALLOP TO BAN JOHN JUSTEN (acoleuthic), Friday, 4 June 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

oops I need to change my DN

BUT IT WOULD BE A CHALLOP TO SUGGEST BAN SARAHEL (acoleuthic), Friday, 4 June 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Trayce just out of curiosity when this happened with you and N and R did N want to slap a ho? Were they friends beforehand and then stop being friends? Seriously not being all YOU DID THE SAME THING (because ive done it myself yo) just curious how guys react.

no more springs no more summers no more falls (sunny successor), Friday, 4 June 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

and by Ho I dont mean you, I mean R

no more springs no more summers no more falls (sunny successor), Friday, 4 June 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Heheh no its a fair question - but it shuld be pointed out N and I didnt break up because of R, it was because of someone else, and I have to be honest the reason that didnt turn into a massive drama is entirely N's doing. He just accepted our time was done, ended things, moved out and we remained friends. He never begrudged me gettin' with R, even though he could have (its complicated and I wont go into it on here).

Its easy to say that makes me a hypocrite. but its more that I now realise how much I put N through, and tbh that just made me feel even worse :/

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Saturday, 5 June 2010 10:18 (thirteen years ago) link

And yeah N and R get on fine. And frankly. I dont know how N does it. Esp now - he could be dancing with schadenfreude about all this gleefully in my face. Instead, he offers to move back in with me.

Guy is damn Ghandi.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Saturday, 5 June 2010 10:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Ugh sorry if that was a muddled explanation, I'm all post-hangover and car prang fogbrain.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Saturday, 5 June 2010 10:20 (thirteen years ago) link

So I caught up with a random acquaintace last week at said lost-beret clubbing and since then he's added me to LJ and FB, and has been emailing me heaps and we're having a ball, and now we're planning drinks on friday and he's burning a DVD of Millenium to watch at my place after.

Guy is interested in me Y/N?

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Y

(ffs)!

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 11:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Friday night drinks and an excuse to go to your place afterwards? Have you discussed plans for who's cooking breakfast Saturday morning?

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 11:24 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL oh gawd.

All my close friends are like ITS TOO SOON FFS DONT DO ThIS YOU MORON YOU HAVE A SHIT TRACK RECORD WITH SHAGS.

:(

Just wanna have some confidence back!

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 11:35 (thirteen years ago) link

If shagging is mandatory after a movie then I've been missing out on my due for a looooong time

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 11:43 (thirteen years ago) link

f yr close friends, shag the dude for fun or other reasons (then wake up and post to the hcwib thread obv)

on some kinda serial killer ish (sic), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link

trufax.

Heck, I dont care either way I just want to grab back some of the fun that bastard's had since he left me and I've been left with none of, fuck his shorty ass.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, getting laid has been a vital part of the recovery process, ime.

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 12:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Not gonna put too much weight on this, but must quietly confess am looking fwd to friday, its a good distraction.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 12:30 (thirteen years ago) link

man, people who renounce stuff cos the timing's wrong are idiots

If it's not hurting, you're not lurking (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess it depends on what your attitude to sex is... Some people just can't fathom that others might have sex for fun, or at least have sex without a huge emotional baggage being included, so they think rebound sex is always wrong. Personally I think rebound sex can be pretty important since breakups tend to come with that "no one will ever want me again" feeling, and as long as the person you're shagging with knows what the deal is, I can't see what's the big problem?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, getting laid has been a vital part of the recovery process, ime.

― Fetchboy, Wednesday, June 9, 2010 12:10 PM

I thought this was the case with me after G and I broke up last year, but it turned out that it didn't help and actually made things worse. I only started feeling better when I got out and did stuff I could really be proud of: hiking a mountain, hosting a fundraiser for a friend with cancer, white water rafting, baking cakes - whatever.

Kelsey Glamour (Nijoli), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

not trying to be a prude and i think i may have sounded like one.

have sex with someone if you think it will help you. and enjoy the hell out of it.

Kelsey Glamour (Nijoli), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I wasn't saying it's a cure-all. Being productive and doing things you're proud of are definitely equally if not more important. And having meaningless sex wasn't just for confidence. It really sparked the excitement of sex again (after sleeping with the same person for a long time, no matter how good the sex, some element of it is still just always the same) and helped me remember how much fun new stuff life has to offer.

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah having sex with someone knew after the extremely oppressive year-long relationship i started this thread about was really liberating and healing tbh

...Funtown. (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

"knew" lol

...Funtown. (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I think rebound sex can be pretty important since breakups tend to come with that "no one will ever want me again" feeling,

exactly - though probably what your friends are warning you about (and i've gotten these warnings myself) is getting into a serious relationship so soon, though it can be really hard to separate the desires/needs for physical intimacy and desirability and emotional ones.

sarahel, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

nothing wrong with getting a serious relationship again, if it's the right serious relationship tbh

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i dunno if "the right serious relationship" is possible that soon after a major breakup

C.H.U.D.D.Y. Chasers (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

working for me tbh

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

good for you then!

C.H.U.D.D.Y. Chasers (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

just sayin that the timing (as NV said upthread) isn't anything to do with it imo.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i agree. when you meet someone you really click with, you have to go for it.

Kelsey Glamour (Nijoli), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

well, i think timing has a lot to do with it - and maybe you just got over your previous relationship a lot sooner than other people tend to do. i just question the functionality/health of a relationship when at least one of the parties is still contending with the damage from a previous one.

C.H.U.D.D.Y. Chasers (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i did unfavourably compare my new gf with the old one for the first few years, it's true

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Lol Nijoli - I met someone i clicked with and didn't go for it.

C.H.U.D.D.Y. Chasers (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i just question the functionality/health of a relationship when at least one of the parties is still contending with the damage from a previous one.

eh i dunno that's something you have to work through yourself and obviously YMMV, but really that's btwn you and yourself, not between you and another person that's right for you.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

eh my last post was a joek btw pls dont sb me or anything

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean "right" is totally contextual - someone can be totally "right" for you when you're both drunk and maudlin at the bar, but when you're both sober, not so right.

C.H.U.D.D.Y. Chasers (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

nah that's not 'right' that's 'you'll do c'mere'

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

right.

Kelsey Glamour (Nijoli), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

all i'm saying is don't confuse "you'll do c'mere" with "right"

C.H.U.D.D.Y. Chasers (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

and a lot of rebound situations are really just about "you'll do c'mere"

C.H.U.D.D.Y. Chasers (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah we're allowing for that in fairness.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

just that you have to allow that they're not always 'you'll do c'mere's' either

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

well, it's often a bit of both, and i think that taints the "rightness" - can it be overcome? Maybe. I don't know.

C.H.U.D.D.Y. Chasers (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

gf is watching 'the breakup' fyi

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Hahah well this thread went in an interesting direction while I was asleep =)

I'm not sure I even wanna sleep with anyone right now tbh, just lookin fwd to fun times finding out stuff about a new(ish) person. There's totally other guys Id'd crack onto/sleep with as well if I could but I'm not sure they are/would be interested (if I could dare ever let on I was! Thats the bit I hate...sigh).

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

...sometimes, in my bleaker moments, I wonder if R settled with me because I was there for him, and he couldnt have the person/type he really wanted. I wasnt quite it, but I was good enough, and we were good friends.

The minute someone came along who fitted his needs/wants to a tee, he basically didnt hesitate to drop everything and run to her.

Sure makes me feel special :(

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

just lookin fwd to fun times finding out stuff about a new(ish) person.

that's a good attitude to have - you're an awesome person, and there are a lot of other awesome, interesting, fun people out there, and your ex-bf is a statistically insignificant percentage of that number.

C.H.U.D.D.Y. Chasers (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

now we're talkin

...Funtown. (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

giving credit where credit is due -- i was merely paraphrasing a much more eloquent estela post from another thread.

C.H.U.D.D.Y. Chasers (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

i dunno if "the right serious relationship" is possible that soon after a major breakup

― C.H.U.D.D.Y. Chasers (sarahel), Wednesday, June 9, 2010 8:16 PM (1 hour ago)

it def can be, my upcoming gettin hitched is based on a situation that came out of those circumstances

apparently not the band, but the lifestyle (jjjusten), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

way to up the ante mayne, we're tryna manage expectations in the breakup room if you hadn't noticed.

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link

fair enough, have also gotten stuck in crap relationships due to over-exuberant rebounding

apparently not the band, but the lifestyle (jjjusten), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link

You know, now its the morning, I am even more irritated with what my so-called best friend said to me y'day about this minor, silly passing crush. I wish I'd not said anything now, because he went on a rant about "we need to talk, this is a patter, you have a shit record with this" and now I'm like dude, what in the FUCK? I sit around lonely, isolated and moping and everyone tells me to get off my butt and get out and have fun.

So I get off my butt, get out and meet some awesome people, and admit I might like one of em a little bit. And now I'm "on a roundabout" and "a pattern" and other negative castigations.

With friends like these, etc. They're really overthinking what I'm doing here, surely? I hardly wanna DATE anyone!

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

this is a pattern, that should read above.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

dr. me says "do whatever the fuck you want to do"

apparently not the band, but the lifestyle (jjjusten), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Trayce, is the best friend a woman or a guy?

C.H.U.D.D.Y. Chasers (sarahel), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean that in a totally empowering way, not a not giving a shit way, to clarify. xpostt

apparently not the band, but the lifestyle (jjjusten), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah trayce ppl have probably given you enough "advice" at this point--i think you know what you want to be doing

call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 June 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

if the dude's good people and you're good people then throw him a gday bounce imo and yknow ur friend'll get over the rejection of the intervention

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 June 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

sara: a guy, and he is ALWAYS REALLY NEGATIVE about everything, I do love him dearly but god he can be a pain in the ass sometimes.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Thursday, 10 June 2010 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Trayce, does this guy have a crush on you (your best friend that is)?

C.H.U.D.D.Y. Chasers (sarahel), Thursday, 10 June 2010 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh god no, he's married :) we're just like naggy brother and sister rly.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Thursday, 10 June 2010 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link

"this is a pattern, you have a shit record with this"

otm tbf but wth

on some kinda serial killer ish (sic), Thursday, 10 June 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah sure, I can dig his observation and agree with it, but god, just be happy for me getting on with my life for once, dude jeez.

My ex, N? He was the first to jump in and say "good on you! Go for it, have some fun, you deserve it!". Bless him. I let a good one go, there :/

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Thursday, 10 June 2010 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Crushdude just rang me at work mid=afternoon while "between meetings" to ask me for a coffee (which sadly I had to decline as I'm flat out)

This guy is doing some srs "hey Im interested" legwork here isnt he?

I'm not used to this haha.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Thursday, 10 June 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link

'gday bounce' OMG

no more springs no more summers no more falls (sunny successor), Friday, 11 June 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel stupid for not being able to work out wth kind of euphemism that is.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Friday, 11 June 2010 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link

australian tigger

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 11 June 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link

BTW aforementioned dude is totes interested in me, as I found out last night.

Ah still got it *struts*.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Friday, 11 June 2010 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link

With Trayce's moniker on the page, I misread this title as thread to get over a handjob.

mandatory seersucker (Eazy), Friday, 11 June 2010 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Yay Trayce, you go girl!

Tuomas, Friday, 11 June 2010 06:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Went on date last night (well, with other friends), everyone got well trashed, then eventually had the place to ourselves.

Yeah, that was a very successful evening <3 Recovery time is now.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Saturday, 12 June 2010 07:23 (thirteen years ago) link

daaaaammmmmnnnn

fucking awe3some

before you post, consider just admitting you are wrong (jjjusten), Saturday, 12 June 2010 07:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Iknowrite? It really has helped me get past everything. Not saying I'd get involved with this guy, but life is fun again for a change.

Ow my liver, tho.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Saturday, 12 June 2010 07:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Bingobango! Congrats, Trayce!

Fetchboy, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link

:D

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Did you disrespect his property?

kkvgz, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Properly?

kkvgz, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Bwahaha.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:35 (thirteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

feel so sad. :\ miss her.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Sunday, 11 July 2010 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link

*hugs* ian <3

Love and Arugula (Trayce), Sunday, 11 July 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link

aww Ian sincerely feeling for you xxxxxx

post class A nasal drip (sunny successor), Sunday, 11 July 2010 03:39 (thirteen years ago) link

The worst part is seeing someone I knew so well morph so quickly into someone I'd never give the time of day.

PappaWheelie V, Sunday, 11 July 2010 04:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, thats always a killer :(

Love and Arugula (Trayce), Sunday, 11 July 2010 07:04 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Well, that didn't last long :-/

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link

last night i dreamt that you, who never ever go to the doctor when you are sick, was diagnosed with testicular cancer and had only a short time left to live.

sarahel, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyYWCUUnJU0

A Chart Hit of Some Sort (Eazy), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 06:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Feeling a real sting of loneliness right now tbh. Have had some dates, but they've all been so empty, the sort of thing you enjoy when yr in yr 20s/30s because you have all the time in the world to do that shit. But I'm almost 40, and I feel like... oh, I dont even know anymore.

YOUNG POLLY GERNO'S (Trayce), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 09:59 (thirteen years ago) link

how much time you have is relative - like it's less about life expectancy and more like felt expectations about where you should be/plan to be at what age, I think.

sarahel, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 10:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh for sure, thats exactly what it is, I guess. Not that I really had any specific plans or goals...

YOUNG POLLY GERNO'S (Trayce), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 10:31 (thirteen years ago) link

nah, but, well, at least for me, i had vague visions of what my life would be like, and expectations, though i don't really think i thought of them as expectations until the unexpected happened.

sarahel, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link

i had lunch with my ex yesterday during which he discussed how he never wanted another girlfriend and hated having someone in his house/bed and just didn't want to deal with another person in his life ever again. sound like a terrible existence. and i think he is kidding himself.

being single this time around has been rough and lonely. not sure if that is b/c i am 38 and single or because i feel like i know every single eligible dude in my town too well to want to date them. either way, unlike my ex i would love to have a relationship because i hate the entire dating process.

i am giving you the caesar salad of compliments (Nijoli), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Having a romantic prospect (even when you know objectively nothing's going to come of it) sucks for the way the whole experience tries to remind you that how you normally feel is not right.

Eric H., Tuesday, 31 August 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, he's kidding himself. i've kinda been in his position before. where a relationship fucks you up and you can't make new connections for a while, where time is passing by and those nerve endings just don't want to come back to life. sort of exhaustion + numbness to new emotional connections. it's probably temporary and will fade over time and he'll maybe feel silly for saying such melodramatic things but the feelings seem really valid and of weight while you're feeling them.

feel ya on the exhausted dating scene tip. i mean i'm in a serious thing now but man was i there for a while.

btw i wouldn't have guessed 38 by the pics you've posted around the board. you'll rope a good one.

OH WOW GRANDFATHER CLOCK HAT (arby's), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost

OH WOW GRANDFATHER CLOCK HAT (arby's), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't necessarily feel this way but I don't think he's kidding himself. Relationships aren't for everyone. You can always masturbate and have friends and hobbies.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

but who are you gonna cuddle with? You can't make out with your hand, your friends or your train set. I guess you could make out with your friends but it starts getting weird after a bit.

peacocks, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

cuddling is essential to me.

the banana boat username (crüt), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

It's a trade off. Maybe you don't like cuddling in the first place. Maybe you're tired of making out. Your nerves on your lips get worn out, your hormones stop making you crazy and horny.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

i just thing that if he was one to enjoy affection and cuddling and all that throughout his life, all the way up to this recent point, then in all probability he's just burned out out for the time being and probably not broken perma-emo forever and ever and all time and is just putting apocalyptic weight on his current emotional hurdles.

i mean, total speculation; there are all sorts of ppl so whaddo i know

OH WOW GRANDFATHER CLOCK HAT (arby's), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't necessarily feel this way but I don't think he's kidding himself. Relationships aren't for everyone. You can always masturbate and have friends and hobbies.

― bamcquern, Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:10 PM

He is kidding himself. When he met and started dating me he was the loneliest sad sack on earth. And before his relationship before that it was the same thing. He will get that away again and probably soon, to be honest. He hates to be alone and is only pretending to like it to make himself feel better right now. It is just true.

i am giving you the caesar salad of compliments (Nijoli), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

p.s. we have been broken up for a year and a half and have both dated other people since. he gets really depressed b/c nothing he goes for works out. this is why he is pretending to want it that way

i am giving you the caesar salad of compliments (Nijoli), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

btw i wouldn't have guessed 38 by the pics you've posted around the board

THIS, for real.

sharkless dick stick (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

cuddling is essential to me.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Maybe you don't like cuddling in the first place. Maybe you're tired of making out.
preposterous

peacocks, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks for all the support re: my age

my birthday is this weekend and then i will officially be 38 like i have been saying for weeks. i don't think it is bringing me down but who knows what will happen later. it would be nice to not have to be dating in a sea of people either younger then me or my age and married with kids.

i am giving you the caesar salad of compliments (Nijoli), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Aww Nij, my boyfriend is going to turn 38 tomorrow, Sep 1. Once in a while he tells me that he's not so old and he could easily meet someone else after me, and I laugh -- but not because it's not true.
38 is Not Old.

Besides, you're going to meet a million and one people on your soul-a-van tour, so who gives a fuck about the dudes in your town?!? How many 38-yr-old women have the GUTS and the time to travel the country playing records?? Someone is going to be blown away, probably several someones, and maybe you'll like them and maybe you won't, but at least you'll get some perspecktive.

Jesus doesn't want me for a thundercloud (Laurel), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't feel like it is old either. and thanks!

i am giving you the caesar salad of compliments (Nijoli), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

being single this time around has been rough and lonely. not sure if that is b/c i am 38 and single or because i feel like i know every single eligible dude in my town too well to want to date them.

*totally* feeling u on this one, lady. Every other time I've been single (which hasnt been in ages) Ive bemoaned it somewhat but it kind of also didnt matter? Because I'd just go out and have fun and casual flings came by without trying.. OR i'd spend six months obsessing over somethign that was a failure, haha.

This time round, it just doesnt seem to be the same ease. Like: I've managed to date/pick up three guys since that whole R breakup palaver upthread, I suppose thats pretty good right?

All 3 seem to think getting down is fine, but you know, actually spending any other time with me at all/talking to me/even emailing or txting me, let alone anything more such as time spent hanging out/cuddling/doing stuff? nope. Even that guy who pursued me rabidly for weeks just suddenly, completely dropped off the radar (isnt even answering my emails)

I like to think my judgement radar isnt *that* broken, but jesus. It's actually fucking insulting.

YOUNG POLLY GERNO'S (Trayce), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

So now I'm thinking I'm doing something wrong.

YOUNG POLLY GERNO'S (Trayce), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

well, i started dating people who were age appropriate this summer after spending last summer dating very young guys. young dudes = disaster for 38 year old woman. but my luck this summer has not been great with the 43 year old skate shop dude, the 42 year old record store owner dude and the 30 year old guy who ended up being way way too religious. but anyway. i was posting on here today to make fun of my ex and not moan about my age, which i really have no hang ups about at all.

i am giving you the caesar salad of compliments (Nijoli), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

And nor you should! I dont either, in all honesty :) I'm just ranting into the void rly. I need to take up painting again or something.

YOUNG POLLY GERNO'S (Trayce), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

what is wrong with the men in my life? the fun ones aint smart and smart ones aint fun.

i am giving you the caesar salad of compliments (Nijoli), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i feel like i know every single eligible dude in my town too well to want to date them. either way, unlike my ex i would love to have a relationship because i hate the entire dating process.

this is exactly how i felt several months into being single for the first time since my early 20s (i'm 36 in two months) - and now i end up seeing (not in the dating sense) a bunch of dudes i didn't think about as eligible or guys i didn't know before - so i don't have that sense of an exhausted dating pool. On the other hand, I'm at a point (that i didn't think was possible) where the idea of being in/getting into a relationship seems exhausting and not something i want to deal with for a while. It was weird - my ex-bf came over the other night to the apartment we lived in together for 12 years that is now mine alone - and i had this irritable claustrophobic feeling at one point - like there is one too many people in this apartment.

sarahel, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

i had lunch with my ex yesterday during which he discussed how he never wanted another girlfriend and hated having someone in his house/bed and just didn't want to deal with another person in his life ever again.

imo this is the most self-loating "please prove me wrong" stuff you can say to someone you used to date

mh, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

a lot of the time it is "please prove me wrong" stuff - but not always. Sometimes you just feel like giving up.

sarahel, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

he sucks, regardless. and he is constantly on the prowl, so his "i dont want someone around" is just silly talk.

i am giving you the caesar salad of compliments (Nijoli), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

well - he's your ex-bf, Nij - we're just having a hypothetical argument about someone that is/is not this guy - which probably is kinda retarded from your perspective, actually knowing the guy

sarahel, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

i should retire from this thread for a while anyway because i could not be more over my break up that was almost two years ago...

i am giving you the caesar salad of compliments (Nijoli), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm almost at the 1 year mark! almost disentangled from business stuff w/ex - realizing that it'll be pretty awesome to have that much more freedom and free time

sarahel, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

oh and in the spirit of the thread:

roxy looked at pictures of you on fb and thought maybe you were an aspie - i lolled

sarahel, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^its true, he looks like an aspie, lol.

proprietor of gib (roxymuzak), Thursday, 2 September 2010 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't know what aspies look like - is there a specific "look"? for most of the relationship i felt like he was more socially adept than i was - but i think he was just better at not pissing people off. i don't think he really has any close friends in the emotional intimacy sense - well, except for one - but he's also fucking her, so i don't think that counts.

sarahel, Thursday, 2 September 2010 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

you thought the TV character Dexter was just a regular dude

sarahel, Thursday, 2 September 2010 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Having a romantic prospect (even when you know objectively nothing's going to come of it) sucks for the way the whole experience tries to remind you that how you normally feel is not right.

― Eric H., Wednesday, September 1, 2010 1:59 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

this, really. you think you've reached equilibrium and then bam, you're knocked over. (cquern)

shorn_blond.avi (dayo), Thursday, 2 September 2010 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link

what does that have to do with bryce?

sarahel, Thursday, 2 September 2010 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, I just think when you use the word bam in a sentence you should make acknowledgement. (cquern)

shorn_blond.avi (dayo), Thursday, 2 September 2010 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link

i disagree.

sarahel, Thursday, 2 September 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link

bam suggestion.

estela, Thursday, 2 September 2010 06:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel sometimes like we should start a thread for "ladies in their late 30s (and early 40s coz hey we don't discriminate on age) come together to talk about how the whole process or experience of dating has changed for us over the years (or, is different from the first time around, if we have just come out of a LTR)" because that would really, really help me get some perspective on things.

(Because every time I read this thread, I just think "oh, thank fuck it's not just *me*!" Because you know, I am just a weirdo, and maybe it *is* just me, but also, if I see really lovely and well adjusted ladies like in this thread having these same problems then I think "OK, it might be *me*, but it's not *just* me" if you know what I mean.)

Would anyone else participate (and not just to LOL @ Karen D.) if I started such a thread?

cymose corymb (Karen D. Tregaskin), Thursday, 2 September 2010 10:09 (thirteen years ago) link

go for it!

sarahel, Thursday, 2 September 2010 10:10 (thirteen years ago) link

you thought the TV character Dexter was just a regular dude

― sarahel, Wednesday, September 1, 2010 10:33 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark

this reminds me of someone i knew whose understanding of arrested development was that michael was completely crazy and tobias was the straight man

proprietor of gib (roxymuzak), Monday, 6 September 2010 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link

fuckin crazy motherfuckers on this earth

friends don't understand us, adults don't understand us (zorn_bond.mp3), Monday, 6 September 2010 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link

also that person was bryce

proprietor of gib (roxymuzak), Monday, 6 September 2010 06:32 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

friends don't understand us, adults don't understand us (zorn_bond.mp3), Monday, 6 September 2010 06:33 (thirteen years ago) link

u may

proprietor of gib (roxymuzak), Monday, 6 September 2010 06:36 (thirteen years ago) link

WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH OUR BREAKUPS ROXY!!

sarahel, Monday, 6 September 2010 06:47 (thirteen years ago) link

whoops - sorry for capslock, capslock, i am breaking up w u

sarahel, Monday, 6 September 2010 06:48 (thirteen years ago) link

thread to get over a breakup with capslock

- you made me look like a crazy person
- you made some of my applications not work when you were on

sarahel, Monday, 6 September 2010 06:50 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

proprietor of gib (roxymuzak), Monday, 6 September 2010 06:54 (thirteen years ago) link

man, i havent had a breakup in over a year yall

proprietor of gib (roxymuzak), Monday, 6 September 2010 06:54 (thirteen years ago) link

mine was almost a year ago :/

sarahel, Monday, 6 September 2010 06:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i broke up with my business yesterday though

sarahel, Monday, 6 September 2010 06:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I had a semi-re-breakup. Took a nice trip around the south with my most favoritest ex-girlfriend in February and it was two weeks of being a couple again with the full understanding that when she went back home it was back to the status quo. And it was just that, until...she started dating some other guy. We originally broke up in 2004 and she's dated a zillion guys since then and it hasn't bothered me in a long, long time. But all of a sudden it bothered me again, and I stewed about it for a couple weeks at least. I don't regret that fun flirtation with the past (hell, it was my first time going to Mardi Gras in New Orleans), but it almost wasn't worth feeling that way all over again.

I'm glad I didn't bring it up with her, though. I almost did a couple times, but I realized it was just my own mental garbage I'd be dumping on her happiness.

My most recent real breakup (and not a re-breakup) was in 2009. I'm overdue.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 6 September 2010 07:35 (thirteen years ago) link

you later watched it again and realized he was pathologically emotionally detached and began to question your own normalcy

sarahel, Monday, 6 September 2010 08:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm glad I didn't bring it up with her, though. I almost did a couple times, but I realized it was just my own mental garbage I'd be dumping on her happiness.

A+ dealing with situation imo

k¸ (darraghmac), Monday, 6 September 2010 08:57 (thirteen years ago) link

now my ex is trying to nudge me towards a girl that I was initially interested in a month ago. part of me is enjoying bachelordom at the moment but I think this could be good for me. no more psychic chicks telling me they had visions of their future child and that i wasn't the father...WHILE WE'RE DATING.

funky brewster (San Te), Monday, 6 September 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

i broke up with my business yesterday though

Read this too quickly as i broke up with my mistress yesterday though.

commonly referred to as Olde E ,Olde Executioner, Dat Ol' 8hundo and 8-Ba (Eazy), Monday, 6 September 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Starting to realize that as much as the last two relationships sucked, being single for the first time in a couple of years has shook me a bit.
Doesn't help that I'm not meeting anyone I really want to date and so many of my friends are in long-term relationships or married.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Monday, 6 September 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

been there, milo, been there. you can always do what I do and splurge on/spoil yourself for a little while, take a break from looking, then come back after you've had a little fun and gotten used to it. don't know you so don't know if that'd work for you but it's helped me out.

funky brewster (San Te), Monday, 6 September 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I made a decision today that I'm going to stop looking for the forseeable. I'm in two bands, I'm putting out a book, I'm angling for a promotion. I have more than enough going on.

friends don't understand us, adults don't understand us (zorn_bond.mp3), Monday, 6 September 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

if this were facebook, dude, i'd be liking that post superfast - and if it were myspace, i'd give you two kudos!

sarahel, Monday, 6 September 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i have no idea who u are, mysterious stranger, but right on anyway

k¸ (darraghmac), Monday, 6 September 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

^

markers, Monday, 6 September 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

wait - for real you guys haven't figured it out yet?

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Monday, 6 September 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

:)

k¸ (darraghmac), Monday, 6 September 2010 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

OK was about to say damn!

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Monday, 6 September 2010 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I still have no idea

markers, Monday, 6 September 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link

;_;

markers, Monday, 6 September 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link

its hard out here for a you

proprietor of gib (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^

k¸ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

is that a reference to Arrested Development? I've never seen that show.

sarahel, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

suggest watch

k¸ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link

even i have figured it out, so it can't be that big a mystery.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

welcome back, cankles!

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Bahahah :)

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

canks and BJO in competition for being most reformed in their new personas

sarahel, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link

no way is it cankles

markers, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

str8 up

k¸ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

sb works

k¸ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Daniel was making a bit of a lol.

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

indeed

markers, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

trayce is right.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:09 (thirteen years ago) link

don't confuse him, Trayce

sarahel, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:09 (thirteen years ago) link

my real thought is that zorn_bond is that "lord custos epsilon" fellow.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:09 (thirteen years ago) link

welcome back, lord custos!

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

don't derail the thread, everyone

sarahel, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

fair enough; apologies.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

lollin @ Daniel's posts tbh

markers, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

<3

friends don't understand us, adults don't understand us (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 04:24 (thirteen years ago) link

u cum bubbles, u

friends don't understand us, adults don't understand us (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 04:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I hadn't figured out ZBmp3's identity before it was practically spelled out in another thread. But now that I know - good to have you back, sweet ballet dancer.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 10:20 (thirteen years ago) link

zbmp3 is ben b. bag, fools

also <3 tuomas's post there

proprietor of gib (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

also that person was bryce

― proprietor of gib (roxymuzak), Monday, 6 September 2010 06:32 (Yesterday)

this is fictioooooonnnnnnnn

and also making me giggle

bamcquern, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

bryce

it happened dro

proprietor of gib (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

this thread needs the bonsai treatment imo

sarahel, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

It's a romantic idea, this aspie boyfriend thing, but I watched the show on tv a few times before I met you and understood the premise well enough then.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

it happened dro

― proprietor of gib (roxymuzak), Tuesday, September 7, 2010 10:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

LOVE THIS

friends don't understand us, adults don't understand us (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i was joking that it was u bryce. bc u had been mentioned unwarranted on thread b4

proprietor of gib (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

huh?

*shrug*

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Heard last night that Drunky McDrunkenstein went to Vegas with friends a couple of weeks ago, didn't come back to the room 3 of 4 nights and on the one night she did drunkenly wet the bed (that she was sharing with the girl who related this story).

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Friday, 10 September 2010 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh that's the worst. Drunk bed wetters, I mean. I had someone I was sharing a bed with do that once. It was pretty awkward.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Friday, 10 September 2010 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link

same here :( (ex who was alco) I slept on the couch in horror and next morning he was all "why are you out here?" and had no idea wtf he'd done. Ugh.

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Friday, 10 September 2010 05:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean I guess it could be worse and you could wake up in something like the shit scene with Spud which would have to be one of the most horrifying things ever.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Friday, 10 September 2010 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link

oh I meant to say shit scene with Spud in Trainspotting, durr

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Friday, 10 September 2010 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link

there were some good shit/bathroom stories in the best quotable yore of ILX thread

always be cozen (dayo), Friday, 10 September 2010 05:07 (thirteen years ago) link

There is nothing "good" about shit stories wtf.

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Friday, 10 September 2010 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link

except sexually

gorgeous, independent, "edgy," house, music (crüt), Friday, 10 September 2010 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I cannot condone breakup threads being hijacked by coprophiliacs.

kenan, Friday, 10 September 2010 05:34 (thirteen years ago) link

D: CURTISSSS.

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Friday, 10 September 2010 05:37 (thirteen years ago) link

prefer coprophiliacs to aspie jokes, tbh

sarahel, Friday, 10 September 2010 05:41 (thirteen years ago) link

It's all a rich tapestry.

kenan, Friday, 10 September 2010 05:42 (thirteen years ago) link

loooool

friends don't understand us, adults don't understand us (zorn_bond.mp3), Friday, 10 September 2010 05:43 (thirteen years ago) link

The breakup thread is breaking up.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 10 September 2010 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link

we all make horribly malformed "jokes" sometimes

sarahel, Friday, 10 September 2010 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I've got to keep up my reputation as the unfunniest funny person on ILX, see.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 10 September 2010 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link

oh that was actually about roxy's joke -

sarahel, Friday, 10 September 2010 06:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Have You Ever Shit Your Pants?

buzza, Friday, 10 September 2010 06:46 (thirteen years ago) link

And both of the things we were just talking about converge into one post.

Actually, someone else threatened to start a thread with that title, so I went ahead and did it for him.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 10 September 2010 07:13 (thirteen years ago) link

CRUT YOU KILL ME

dolphins will lolphin all over the ills (sunny successor), Friday, 10 September 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

when you say you are going through a transitional phase do you mean you are transitioning into a butthole because that's what it looks like to me.

peacocks, Thursday, 16 September 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link

ask him if he's practicing teaching his butthole how to talk!

sarahel, Thursday, 16 September 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh. i guess these things happen.

Fetchboy, Sunday, 19 September 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

<3

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

:(

illiterate mods are killing ilx (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 September 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i can't turn my butthole into a heart

the cusses of 2 live crew (stevie), Monday, 20 September 2010 11:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks Tyra!
http://i52.tinypic.com/23sx3sx.jpg

Fetchboy, Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

595 people like this.

markers, Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

dying here

wish i could turn my heart into anything else, really

jeff, Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

don't worry it get's worse, then better, then worse, then better

sarahel, Thursday, 28 October 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

wish i could turn my heart into anything else, really

― jeff, Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:45 PM Bookmark

To paraphrase an ilxor's mother's ex-boyfriend, you can't make your heart turn into a face.

your favorite homoerotic savior imagery (Hurting 2), Thursday, 28 October 2010 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link

ex-husband rather, and if you have not read this thread, it may cheer you up a little. Read it when you feel like you want something of that sort:

My mother's incredibly stupid ex-husband

your favorite homoerotic savior imagery (Hurting 2), Thursday, 28 October 2010 01:19 (thirteen years ago) link

^ kind of sad but mostly lol

markers, Thursday, 28 October 2010 01:20 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, i was referencing that. will reread when i'm able to focus better. trying to find some good music to listen to but everything feels so cliche.

jeff, Thursday, 28 October 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link

thought i could cheer myself up and took my dog for a long walk earlier today. it was too hot for her and i had to carry her the whole way. it was pretty sad and pathetic. got really choked up thinking about how i figured that i'd have to deal with her dying at some point but the reality now is that i'll be gone and she's just going to forget about me.

jeff, Thursday, 28 October 2010 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Jeff, it gets a he'll of a lot better. I know when I've recently broken up, I feel antisocial and my world shrinks. Really, you have to force yourself to interact with family and friends, exercise some good habits, and go through the motions of a person who is functional. In my limited life experience, I'd say that acting like normal is the best thing to do. And when you can, go somewhere new and do something fun on your own, as a reminder you can.

mh, Thursday, 28 October 2010 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link

He'll -> hell

mh, Thursday, 28 October 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I had a bit of a setback thinking about my most recent ex this morning and it made me feel shitty to think I still really miss him a lot. We had a very close friendship we lost thanks to turning it into a relationship and then breaking up - we're still friends and still in touch but it'll never be the same, and sometimes I get so sad.

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Thursday, 28 October 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, went thru this about a month ago. keep strong, lean on good friends for support.

fakey (buzza), Thursday, 28 October 2010 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks dude. trayce, i feel you. for me, this is more about losing a best friend than just a girlfriend. i have other people to talk with but i don't think there is anyone who can truly comfort me. listening to promise ring and jimmy eat world now ffs.

jeff, Thursday, 28 October 2010 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry, that was meant to say "thanks dudes".

jeff, Thursday, 28 October 2010 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link

when there's such extant strength of feeling it never fails to bewilder and utterly sadden me that something can be torn so utterly asunder

acoleuthic, Thursday, 28 October 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link

you can still be friends, but it takes time and distance, and the friendship is different. and no, there really isn't anyone who can truly comfort you - distract you, yes, but you have to work through it by yourself, which is almost the worst part, because you feel lonelier.

sarahel, Thursday, 28 October 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4qCmg4q7TQ0/S7_Bfuet3II/AAAAAAAAA4c/wLBOefXicuA/s400/Knapsack_Day_Three_Of_My_New_Life.jpg

lol had this on blast after my last breakup

soda lake swame (Lamp), Thursday, 28 October 2010 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link

might have to give that a spin soon. had completely forgotten about them.

jeff, Thursday, 28 October 2010 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i have other people to talk with but i don't think there is anyone who can truly comfort me.

Ach yeah, this. The one person you want to turn to is the one person who's just ripped out yr insides and dropkicked them across the room :/

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Thursday, 28 October 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry jeff, sorry buzza, that really sucks guys

max, Thursday, 28 October 2010 04:08 (thirteen years ago) link

listened to j.e.w. and pinkerton nonstop last time i was havin girl sads

max, Thursday, 28 October 2010 04:08 (thirteen years ago) link

not very weezer/promise ring/knapsack-esque, but very helpful in a love bummer-esque way. last big break-up i had my immediate response was to take three hour baths with this on repeat:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_o6mJh27JxV8/TEtFB0QyizI/AAAAAAAAAhk/vgGJ4PUPxD8/s1600/hot+buttered+soul.jpg

are you an elitist or are you a brah, man? (stevie), Thursday, 28 October 2010 07:28 (thirteen years ago) link

'by the time i get to phoenix' heals all

are you an elitist or are you a brah, man? (stevie), Thursday, 28 October 2010 07:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry to hear you guys are facing these struggles, jeff and buzza. I usually rely on Burt Bacharach tunes and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZZngTkp54I

I just realized today that my most recent breakup didn't hit me as hard as I thought it would b/c in a lot of ways I'm still shellshocked from the one two years ago. It's pretty distressing to know how long some pains can last. It makes me question how strong of a person I am to still let my life be so deeply affected by someone who has long since moved on.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

1. She and I agreed to be just friends 3 days ago. Things were too frequently turbulent, too strained, and commitment was too much of a problem.

2. We spent 3 wonderful days with each other, undefined as a couple but very much in league.

3. Tonight, I have been friend-dumped. I am not going to go into specifics, save for the fact it concerns a poetry-reading, some old university friends of mine, and my inability to deal with my emotions. I think she is a genius and I cried more than I have done at any other stage in my post-infancy life.

4. I am a fool.

5. Fuck.

6. I hope I learn.

7. I hope she and I meet again.

8. Cambridge is a poison.

9. Always fight for the one you love.

10. Self-control.

acoleuthic, Sunday, 7 November 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link

aw man

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 November 2010 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link

11. Don't give parasites an inch or they'll drive a wedge. Even if you have been friends with them for 5 years.

acoleuthic, Sunday, 7 November 2010 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link

12. Self-control.

acoleuthic, Sunday, 7 November 2010 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link

:( for you atm

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 November 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Aw, man, I'm sorry, LJ. :(

emil.y, Sunday, 7 November 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks fellas

acoleuthic, Sunday, 7 November 2010 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link

l jagz i str8 up n/j admire how u live lyfe

Lamp, Sunday, 7 November 2010 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Condolences, acoleuthic.

Princess TamTam, Sunday, 7 November 2010 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link

damn LJ. :(

whiney trollins vs. hipsters (dayo), Sunday, 7 November 2010 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link

why the fuck am i missing you now?

sarahel, Sunday, 7 November 2010 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link

when i said i was sad that this would be the first birthday i haven't spent with you since 1996, you just made a dumb pouty face. You are almost 38 years old, you can do better than a dumb pouty face.

sarahel, Sunday, 7 November 2010 04:46 (thirteen years ago) link

oh louis.

i'm sorry.

HOOS tremendo...steen ridically (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 7 November 2010 05:40 (thirteen years ago) link

you can do better than a dumb pouty face

God, I KNOW that dumb pouty face. It's been given to me before. I wanna smack it.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 7 November 2010 06:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Lamp OTM, sorry you're going through this LJ, but you're a top-notch guy and even if this is the last you see of her, there's more amazing women in store for you down the road.

Fetchboy, Sunday, 7 November 2010 09:30 (thirteen years ago) link

louis dogg now is the tyme to write some poetry that u will be very embarrassed by in about 2 years

max, Sunday, 7 November 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

oh i hope louis will never be embarrassed by any of his poetry!

take care of yourself, dude. xx

嬰ハ長調 (c sharp major), Sunday, 7 November 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

bad luck LJ... did you get to NZ?

rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Sunday, 7 November 2010 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

aw LJ.

crut jones (crüt), Sunday, 7 November 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

again thanks fellas...max i am on it, but it's between her and i

nice email received today, explaining the need for space but forgiving me to a degree...feeling much better

acoleuthic, Sunday, 7 November 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

ruh-roh

forgiving you for what?

if details ain't for thread then fair enough obv

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 November 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

look for christ's sake we had a falling-out ok, don't pry

also can a mod delete d-mac's post, it's fucking horrible

acoleuthic, Sunday, 7 November 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry man, it wasnt meant so harshly as that.

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 November 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

kid glove treatment, d - the breakup is pretty fresh

sarahel, Sunday, 7 November 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

if details ain't for thread then fair enough obv

not getting into it any further, apology is genuine

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 November 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha that was quick

we've basically patched this up :) and had a great long chat about poetry

but on the proviso that i take anger management classes

you know me etc

acoleuthic, Sunday, 7 November 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

O_O

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 7 November 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sorry this all happened to you and her. I hope things turn out well in the future.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 7 November 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link

wait what did darraghmacs post say

max, Sunday, 7 November 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link

it wasn't deleted

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Sunday, 7 November 2010 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link

it's still there, lj was just being a dick iirc

rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Sunday, 7 November 2010 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Well this is confusing.

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Sunday, 7 November 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

fucking horrible

crut jones (crüt), Sunday, 7 November 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

o

max, Sunday, 7 November 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

you guys

acoleuthic, Sunday, 7 November 2010 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link

<3

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Monday, 8 November 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

:-)

crut jones (crüt), Monday, 8 November 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

this fuckin guy

HOOS tremendo...steen ridically (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 8 November 2010 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link

btw lj did u get my webmail which was sent to yrn✧✧✧@googlem✧✧✧.c✧✧

HOOS tremendo...steen ridically (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 8 November 2010 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah dude I am gonna reply with a full fucken breakdown ASAP!!!!!! but mah friend aforementioned is on line deux at ze mo so retain your composure for these minutes

acoleuthic, Monday, 8 November 2010 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i am in no rush holmes just wanted to make sure it had been received

HOOS tremendo...steen ridically (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 8 November 2010 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link

late evening is when a jagger sits back and engages in poetical colloquy

acoleuthic, Monday, 8 November 2010 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link

we've basically patched this up :) and had a great long chat about poetry

but on the proviso that i take anger management classes

sans poetry, this describes our posting relationship tbph

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Monday, 8 November 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

fffffffffuuuuuuuu

acoleuthic, Monday, 8 November 2010 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm hopin :) is appropriate but i mean...

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Monday, 8 November 2010 01:09 (thirteen years ago) link

lord help

HOOS tremendo...steen ridically (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 8 November 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

haha this has been a weird fucken day

acoleuthic, Monday, 8 November 2010 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

dmac you are a blessed one

acoleuthic, Monday, 8 November 2010 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

trippy days are the ones you'll remember later one ime

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Monday, 8 November 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

LJ - your life is so filled with constant excitement and drama, you might as well be a Robinson sister.

sarahel, Monday, 8 November 2010 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link

the louis family robinson

whiney trollins vs. hipsters (dayo), Monday, 8 November 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

jesus loves lou more than you can know
wo wo wo

a pun based on a popular ilx meme (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 November 2010 05:09 (thirteen years ago) link

how old is this girl?

sarahel, Monday, 8 November 2010 05:46 (thirteen years ago) link

99% moved into new loft. had a fun night with friends out and kind of forgetting about you. blasting replacements like only a single man with no real neighbors can do.

jeff, Saturday, 13 November 2010 08:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Awesome to hear, Jeff!

Fetchboy, Saturday, 13 November 2010 08:59 (thirteen years ago) link

seems that i'm a little less over a breakup than i thought i was now that my former long-term girlfriend is dating again. and despite all of my feminist creds i can't help but feel even more ill-at-ease at the fact that her new partner is female.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 21 November 2010 04:03 (thirteen years ago) link

now that my former long-term girlfriend is dating again

imo, ime, you aint over shit until this happens. the rest, i dunno. i have no ime there tbph.

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 November 2010 04:32 (thirteen years ago) link

that makes sense. i'm in a peculiar state about it because on one hand it's a v good thing and i'm happy for her (not least because she's in the midst of a serious bout of depression and i'm sure it'll be good for her to have that kind of close relationship), but on the other hand... i dunno really. maybe it's time to quickly end my own year-long drought and see how that does me, could be that i'm just an awful testosterone-fuelled man desperate for a good banging. (maybe not.)

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 21 November 2010 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link

if govts take action to avoid droughts, that's worth considering in micro level also imo.

ps i dunno why you know anything about a yr long ex, gtfo out of that circle of friendship on the pronto srs

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 November 2010 05:20 (thirteen years ago) link

just remember: too much rain after long drought = flood. Baby steps :)

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Sunday, 21 November 2010 05:25 (thirteen years ago) link

ps i dunno why you know anything about a yr long ex, gtfo out of that circle of friendship on the pronto srs

IDK, this is often but not always necessary. I'm still friends with someone I was with for years. That said, we did go through a period after breaking up where we didn't speak at all for about a year but after that we were both mostly fine with being friends on at least some level.

ENBB, Sunday, 21 November 2010 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 vg but nah no such thing as too much rain after a year w/out any sex in the rain the flu is passed on through virus anyway iirc go get rained on

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 November 2010 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i only got ime E, also i got home via a peugeot trunk with 2 others abt an hour ago my advice carries much caveat

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 November 2010 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link

but caveating that caveat i have never felt that 'friends' with an ex is a good step. i may be on a lower maslow step in ex terms.

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 November 2010 05:34 (thirteen years ago) link

distance is certainly necessary

sarahel, Sunday, 21 November 2010 05:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, a little distance and time can help a lot.

x-post Yeah well sometimes it isn't and even when it's not an awful idea, it's usually complicated. I just sort of never really understood cutting someone who I once cared that much for out of my life completely. Obv depends on the particulars though and who knows what the details are here. I'm just sayin'.

ENBB, Sunday, 21 November 2010 05:38 (thirteen years ago) link

details are important, s'true

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 November 2010 05:41 (thirteen years ago) link

just trimmed the hell out of my breakup beard. I feel like the newest of men.

jeff, Sunday, 21 November 2010 05:48 (thirteen years ago) link

New beard! ready for life! Yess!

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Sunday, 21 November 2010 06:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I just sort of never really understood cutting someone who I once cared that much for out of my life completely.

yeah, v much so. i don't know if it was just the particulars of our relationship, but cutting each other out... wasn't an option, i guess? in the most positive sense of it. that even with romance aside we were (and are) still too close to just go our separate ways. it's certainly an advantage that she's currently abroad and so not acting out the new relationship in my face, and as soon as i get out the scuba gear and bring on the flood (or something along those lines) all will be harmonious.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 21 November 2010 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link

blasting replacements like only a single man with no real neighbors can do.

<3 this fucken guy

ralph NAGLer (admrl), Sunday, 21 November 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

seems that i'm a little less over a breakup than i thought i was now that my former long-term girlfriend is dating again. and despite all of my feminist creds i can't help but feel even more ill-at-ease at the fact that her new partner is female.

You might have the "if a woman becomes a lesbian after being with a man, it's the man's fault" trope lurking somewhere in the back of your mind.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 21 November 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

sounds like it's more the basic my ex has moved on and i haven't yet thing.

sarahel, Sunday, 21 November 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

He said that he was especially unnerved by the fact that her new partner was female.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 21 November 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

ya. even though i know it's ridiculous. but anyway that was mostly sweet beautiful drunk talk there, in the best of mental shape i am 98% fine with it and that other 2% will i'm sure be resolved once i manage to direct my annoying physical desires elsewhere.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 21 November 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - oh ok, i think i missed that line.

sarahel, Sunday, 21 November 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm glad you feel better about it now, Merdeyeux.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 21 November 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

in the best of mental shape i am 98% fine with it and that other 2% will i'm sure be resolved once i manage to direct my annoying physical desires elsewhere

Sometimes that 2% is the most stubborn part. You'll eventually get past it, but it will hang around and annoy you like a fly for a while.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 21 November 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

otm

sarahel, Sunday, 21 November 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Hmm. Now, how do I spell schadenfreude again?

And this one time, on Bandcamp... (Trayce), Friday, 26 November 2010 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link

poetic justice? or repeat offender?

thrillionaire (electricsound), Friday, 26 November 2010 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link

poetic justice, it might appear. I dont know, just his very vague mutterings and "yes i know dont tell me" is all i have to go on.

And this one time, on Bandcamp... (Trayce), Friday, 26 November 2010 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm suprisingly not gloaty actually, more concerned for him. I'm too nice.

And this one time, on Bandcamp... (Trayce), Friday, 26 November 2010 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link

well . . . that's nice of u

mookieproof, Friday, 26 November 2010 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Person's gotta really do baaaaad by me before I give them the shrift tbh.

Unless I didn't like them much to start with, then they can sneeze near me and I'll cut a bitch.

And this one time, on Bandcamp... (Trayce), Friday, 26 November 2010 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

never hated on an ex before, but . . .

call me kelis cuz I hate u so much right now

it was five months ago since we called it off

but dude you fucking ripped my heart out on the way out the door

can't believe I still think about this situation every damn day

lame = that I fell so hard for such a selfish dickhead

more lame = me, for still caring about someone I know objectively is not even worth it

and even lamer still = that I'm still this torn up . . . . FIVE MONTHS LATER? seriously, what is my problem?

I've been trying not to blow my cool in public

maybe this thread should be the dumping ground for:

the racist jokes you told when you were really drunk

the way you managed to hustle me to pay for shit (food, tix, shows, booze, movies, everything)

the times you "borrowed" the car and drove across town drunk off your ass like an idiot

your shitty taste in porn / literature / food / TV / crush objects

your lack of any sense of timing

your lack of ambition

your lack of intelligence

your terrible writing

your lack of any discernible talent other than smiling shyly and implying that favors are desired

the way you use people and then bounce

fuck you, dude, for real

fuck you

the tune is space, Sunday, 12 December 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

yes this thread was created w/ the intention of being a dumping ground

pls dump away

and fuck this dude for real he sounds like a dumb shithead

Not only is Zito throwin zeroes, his ass and legs are lookin great. (roxymuzak), Sunday, 12 December 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

he was, thank god he was never my boyfriend but still . . . what a waste of time/soul/head-space

the tune is space, Sunday, 12 December 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

sounds like a real dickwad

max, Sunday, 12 December 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

sounds like me

Princess TamTam, Sunday, 12 December 2010 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

markers, Sunday, 12 December 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

do you have back zits? cuz he did, and man that shit was nasty

do you claim to be "a christian" at strange, random times? cuz he did

are you a lame, selfish dumbass? cuz he was

the tune is space, Sunday, 12 December 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe, no, yes

Princess TamTam, Sunday, 12 December 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

oh and thanks for getting back in touch after dropping me like a rock for months in order to scam some favors for your band by temporarily pretending to be my "friend" again so that I would pull strings with actual bonafide decent human beings to get yr sorry ass a half decent show through my recommendation, and then you pay me back by being a dick to them and harassing them about trivial crap like the fucking amateur that you are and shall remain- well played! nice one!

the tune is space, Monday, 13 December 2010 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link

he was, thank god he was never my boyfriend but still . . . what a waste of time/soul/head-space

― the tune is space, Sunday, December 12, 2010 2:19 PM (2 hours ago)

ugh!!!

thanks for losing the power supply for the camcorder i lent you.

narc of small differences (sarahel), Monday, 13 December 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks for doing jack-shit to promote the show I booked for you.

you cannot expect anyone to think you're a bad-ass while wearing flip-flops

your ponytail looks stupid.

you were the most vanilla guy i have ever been with.

your music is really boring.

narc of small differences (sarahel), Monday, 13 December 2010 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link

i wish i could contribute to this thread, but for the first time, my last breakup has turned into a friendship of awesomeness. like, we're going to Tijuana together type awesomeness.

the mighty blowjob: "it's just lunch" basically (the table is the table), Monday, 13 December 2010 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link

you could contribute by commenting on my recent post, as you know this guy

narc of small differences (sarahel), Monday, 13 December 2010 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, well:

- his music is boring and academic, and he thinks it's the most significant thing in the universe
- he treats women like garbage, as evidenced from my friends' experiences with him at lolcollege
- he isn't an interesting or cool enough person to be considered part of the Sh1nk0y0 crew
- he is the epitome of an outdated hippie who doesn't know it.

the mighty blowjob: "it's just lunch" basically (the table is the table), Monday, 13 December 2010 01:52 (thirteen years ago) link

- you envisioned a platonic ideal of family that was unobtainable, let alone by you and me
- you said stuff like 'should have went'
- you were a yankee fan
- you were a huge dismemberment plan fan despite acknowleging that travis sucks
- our second-biggest argument ever was about whether professional baseball players should be capable of putting down a bunt. you were wrong
- you were my best friend
- you were probably the best thing ever to happen to me no shit

mookieproof, Monday, 13 December 2010 05:25 (thirteen years ago) link

</3

srsly most tearjerking post in, like, ever

schlomo replay (acoleuthic), Monday, 13 December 2010 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Sh1nk0y0

googleproof please!!

narc of small differences (sarahel), Monday, 13 December 2010 05:36 (thirteen years ago) link

- you were a huge dismemberment plan fan despite acknowleging that travis sucks

hey now

Babylon and zing (stevie), Monday, 13 December 2010 08:30 (thirteen years ago) link

dammit the asshole who broke my heart liked dismemberment plan too

note to self: stay *away* from dp fans from now on

*trying not to remember how good the sex was*

the tune is space, Monday, 13 December 2010 09:04 (thirteen years ago) link

tune, forgive my nosiness, but I thought you had er, a very long term dude you were happy with? *confused*

Sookie G Stackedgarten (Trayce), Monday, 13 December 2010 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link

thank god he was never my boyfriend

schlomo replay (acoleuthic), Monday, 13 December 2010 09:33 (thirteen years ago) link

some couples roll open y'know

schlomo replay (acoleuthic), Monday, 13 December 2010 09:34 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah that was what I assumed, but was confused nonetheless. Sorry D dont mean to pry :/

Sookie G Stackedgarten (Trayce), Monday, 13 December 2010 09:37 (thirteen years ago) link

it's alright, it IS the TMI thread right?

yeah, not breaking up with my real bf

just whining about a yearlong affair that went fucking haywire

he was straight and 21 years old and I'm the only dude he'd ever slept with

from the crap he pulled I think I know a teensy bit now about how straight women get treated by douchey guys

(probably just imagining that part)

the tune is space, Monday, 13 December 2010 09:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry to hear it :( I know what thats like. I have a bff who is technically an ex, but we live together again now and he's like, my old married sock. And the both of us end up with casual partners we come home and rail about to each other as horrible decisions, ha :/

Sookie G Stackedgarten (Trayce), Monday, 13 December 2010 09:56 (thirteen years ago) link

PS I did not mean sock in the ILX sense guhhh.

Sookie G Stackedgarten (Trayce), Monday, 13 December 2010 09:56 (thirteen years ago) link

my douchey straight guy recently played a gig with tune's real bf = small world

sarahel, Monday, 13 December 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

these threads depress me because I feel like this is how my exes feel about me

o tannenbaum, o judge (crüt), Monday, 13 December 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

everyone talks about certain exes like this, so i'm guessing that means everyone has exes who talk about them like this too.

omar little, Monday, 13 December 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - crut, your music is good and not boring like this dude's

sarahel, Monday, 13 December 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Ya rly. <3

Sookie G Stackedgarten (Trayce), Monday, 13 December 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

A few friends/family members are still "facebook friends" with my crazy-ass suicidal ex and there's some lighthearted joking on their part about how soft her boyfriend (ok, *husband* in that they got married so she can have insurance) is. I finally cracked a couple weeks ago and growled at my sister that apparently it's funny that this dude is having a shitty time, but when I was in a world of shit no one seemed to be interested in letting me in on this "humor."

It was mostly aimed at my sister, but somewhat the other friends who kind of mumbled but never spoke up.

mh, Monday, 13 December 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Drunky ex called/texted 14 times at 4am a few nights ago, no voicemails, incoherent texts
She's the same one who once told me that Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance" should be the way relationship blueprints (ie I should accept and want her being an angry, mean alcoholic)

Totally over her and the one who followed, but I haven't even dated anyone since things ended with the latter.

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 13 December 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link

^^ Bad Romance ref pretty on point for shitty ex relationship template

mh, Monday, 13 December 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost don't even want to imagine the trash he could talk about me but I'm sure it gets harsh

the tune is space, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh goody, earlier referenced girl is now commenting on another friend's facebook page. I think she added him when I was dating her although they never met in person. After my breakup, she advised him to join some writing group her now-husband is in.

wtf is this contrived horseshit? If this wears on me, I should politely request he flush her from his intertubes.

mh, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 04:08 (thirteen years ago) link

so he calls up my bf to say he's going over to our house to get some of his stuff that he stores in our basement and wants to warn me in advance so that I don't have to see him because he "doesn't want to upset me"

but the last time we saw each other he was a serious fucking asshole to me so I just split (the accusation of being "upset" is conveniently neutral about who and what caused the upset; the upset was a natural reaction to being trivialized, condescended to and insulted in public)

this so-called warning is not to protect my feelings but just to avoid having to face the music about his own lame, selfish behavior so he can carry on with getting what he wants

I am so sick of giving a shit about this person

but I'm still furious at him and don't really know how to process / expel / cathartically purge the big black ocean of hate and misery boiling up right now

I feel like if I stay away I tacitly grant him the right to think he's "really caring and sensitive" when he's not

but if I stick around and give him the tongue-lashing he richly deserves then I'm the uncool bitter guy who just can't get over it

so . . . either way I lose really

I guess I have to abandon the idea that "justice" is possible in this situation

he's too stupid, smug, shallow and narcissistic to understand all the good reasons why he ought to hate himself

but if my only consolation is the spiteful spectator sport of watching him fail at life

then I'm the real loser here, again, for bothering to feel that way in the first place

and his being a jerk isn't enough to haul me out of the pit I'm digging myself into

by posting on this thread

argh argh argh argh argh arggggggggggh

would it really make me feel better to explode in his face?

I don't really see any way to get out of this impasse with some dignity and self-respect intact

I have got to stop caring about this person but I can't seem to stop my mind from racing on its little hamster wheel of futility and hate

the tune is space, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

sounds like it's time to cut off this toxic asshole

=(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

but if I stick around and give him the tongue-lashing he richly deserves then I'm the uncool bitter guy who just can't get over it

since it seems like it's fairly recent, telling him off now doesn't make you the uncool bitter guy

or, you can always send him a turd in the mail in fine Baltimorean tradition

sarahel, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

the accusation of being "upset" is conveniently neutral about who and what caused the upset

really well put. so frustrating. sometimes being reasonable is flipping out and calling someone on their shit.

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks for listening everybody, I just needed to vent

I think I've got to stop believing that this is a situation where I will someday / somehow "teach him a lesson"

doing that is only making myself a hostage to him and it's a way of staying inside this problem (a sick way of preserving "what we had" in an inverted, rotten form)

if somebody is a stupid asshole then worrying about what they think and trying to somehow alter their opinion is just hopeless

it's not going to happen, which means I'm better off cutting my losses here

good riddance

the tune is space, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

if somebody is a stupid asshole then worrying about what they think and trying to somehow alter their opinion is just hopeless

agreed - but you can still tell him off if it's what you need to do, emotionally.

sarahel, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

grown adults that you need to tell off are very rarely worth bothering to tell off.

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

he's young enough that there's hope he'll learn, but anything harsh coming from an ex is too easy to write off as bitterness, it's not going to have any effect other than making me look like "crazy ex", and I don't want to give him that satisfaction

mostly I don't want to care at all

but I totally do

the tune is space, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link

tbh i think probably all you "need" to do is get some distance from the situation! for better or worse time heals most wounds. & until then u get to feel however u want, mad, sad, weird, whatever. its ok to care even if u think u "shouldnt"!

max, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean i am projecting here and probably misreading you but 99% of my bullshit is about me trying to force myself to feel a way that i dont actually feel, its nice to remind yourself that you actually get to feel whatever you want

max, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

so my newest girl and I didn't even last two months. it was a relationship almost too good to be true at first, all of the things I had hated about my prior relationship, this girl didn't do at all. we talked, were really open, and didn't spend too much time together but not too little either. it was going really really well, so I shoulda figured...

Then one night I had made a date with her, and I had forgotten my football game was on that night. stupidly, I attempted to keep our date night while watching football, and of course it backfired. She had a lot of self-consciousness that night and said she wasn't sure I was attracted to her and all this, then I found out she had been raped less than a year earlier, which made sense as to her vulnerability. All in all, It turned out to just be an off-night and nothing major, we were getting along great again when all of a sudden she just drops the bombshell on me the following Monday that she doesn't think I'm over my ex and that it bothers her.

Which was bizarre because I almost never talked about her. In fact, my ex didn't even show up to my birthday, and I really didn't even care -- so many other friends showed, that I didn't really notice until the end of the night. Yet according to my newest g/f, I was 'walking around looking for her' all night (when in actuality I was talking to the many other friends who showed up). Despite me (very truthfully) telling her how much better a g/f she was than my ex ever was, it didn't matter. It was like I was being penalized for ever having gone out with her.

Thought it would be a simple problem to fix, but nope, a week later, she said she didn't think she could do this right now and it ended. I sure know how to pick 'em.

being single's not so bad tho.

Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

being single is pretty fucking awesome

sarahel, Thursday, 23 December 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link

:-/

kanellos (gbx), Thursday, 23 December 2010 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link

also DD this dude sounds like an idiot child, lash him at yr pleasure imo

kanellos (gbx), Thursday, 23 December 2010 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link

grown adults that you need to tell off are very rarely worth bothering to tell off.

^^^

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 23 December 2010 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i disagree

sarahel, Thursday, 23 December 2010 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah some of my best friends are adults that need telling off every now and then (and vicey versy)

kanellos (gbx), Thursday, 23 December 2010 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I've been told off that wasn't just a power trip, bullying, or someone unloading their bad moods onto me. If I've been behaving badly, I'd rather be talked calmly to like an adult, not lectured to like a child.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 23 December 2010 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^^^^^^^^^

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 23 December 2010 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, but you want to be talked to that way because you want constructive feedback, and you see this as a growth opportunity

some of gbx's friends are adults that just need to be told to knock that shit off

mh, Thursday, 23 December 2010 05:36 (thirteen years ago) link

it depends. i've punched friends of mine, and i've had nice long, calm talks with people (friends and lovers) who are just fucking everything up.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Thursday, 23 December 2010 06:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, i punched this dude i was sleeping with because he made such a condescending statement that i just did it. he had a black eye, forgave me the next day. but still.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Thursday, 23 December 2010 06:30 (thirteen years ago) link

That's strange. I've never had to commit assault and battery on anyone that I know. I'd be calling the cops first thing if someone did that to me. But I seem to live in a different world than a lot of people here.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 23 December 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

the only reason I would punch someone is if they had just punched me.

o tannenbaum, o judge (crüt), Thursday, 23 December 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

the tune is space, you seem to be suffering the painful confusion that follows dealings with the personality disordered, with whom there no honest conversation you could have that would not be turned against you, no action you could take that would not be used against you, no resolution for you. every further dealing with someone like this will only make things worse for you. the only thing you can do is write him off and not blame yourself for getting involved in the first place. people like this are often good at disguising their disorderedness. then they strike.

estela, Thursday, 23 December 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

is there like a blinders_from_eyes.gif and can i post it 20 times in response to ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 23 December 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks estela, I've been feeling really relieved that I didn't explode and cause some hardcore scene, and your advice kind of chimes with that choice- I've got to stop thinking that there is still some "us" that needs renovation or fixing up. it's too late and I have to just walk away.

the *psychic surgery* part where I somehow detach and stop caring inside is trickier, but I think that bringing irl encounters to an absolute halt is step one. I don't want to sit around wishing someone else ill, it's not healthy for me and it's irrelevant and limited/limiting anyway. if (however unlikely) someday he turns out okay, that's better for the world at large anyway.

the tune is space, Thursday, 23 December 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, i punched this dude i was sleeping with because he made such a condescending statement that i just did it. he had a black eye, forgave me the next day. but still.

― a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Thursday, December 23, 2010 12:30 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark

i've been punched in the face twice in my adult life, both times for saying something stupid and offensive. and both times by women (that i was not sleeping with). who are also twin sisters.

kanellos (gbx), Thursday, 23 December 2010 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link

That's strange. I've never had to commit assault and battery on anyone that I know. I'd be calling the cops first thing if someone did that to me. But I seem to live in a different world than a lot of people here.

― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, December 23, 2010 10:20 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah but what if you deserved it? when i got decked by my friends (they're two of my closest, dearest friends) it was because i was being a total asshole. i sustained no damage. would i have preferred that they speak to me calmly and rationally about my behavior? well yeah, cuz then i wouldn't have gotten a punch in the face. but did it occur to me to call the cops?? wtf.

kanellos (gbx), Thursday, 23 December 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

The only time I can think of that I'd deserve a punching is if I was beating the snot out of someone. I probably wouldn't call the cops on a friend for hitting me unless I was in serious danger. I'd settle for cutting off all ties with that person. I would call the cops on a relative, though.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 24 December 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

If your relatives aren't friends, sure.

mh, Friday, 24 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

If they abuse me, they aren't my friend.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 24 December 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

idk imo abuse is a pattern and a punch in the face is a punch in the face

aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 24 December 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

am i saying 'stick around after your man hits you in the face cause it only counts if he does it twice' no i am not

aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 24 December 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm just saying

aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 24 December 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I get you there, hoos

mh, Friday, 24 December 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

it's not an unforgiveable for all time offence, but in the short term i think i'd try to kill anyone that punched me in the face, i think. hasn't happened since early teens i think tho.

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

idk imo abuse is a pattern and a punch in the face is a punch in the face

― aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, December 24, 2010 3:18 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark

this, basically. while i understand that violence is unacceptable and all, the punches i received were the equivalent of getting slapped "how rude!" kinda ish. except that my friends are tuff chicks who can throw a punch. immediately after it was like "yeah i guess i earned that, huh," not "your violence was totally unacceptable. never speak to me again, best friend i've ever had."

kanellos (gbx), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link

tuff chicks that think they can throw a punch and it not be a big deal can fuck right off tho

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

and to be clear, i am speaking personally and about a specific situation that i think y'all are ignoring. this could not under any reasonable circumstances be considered "abusive."

kanellos (gbx), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

continue talking about my friends that way dmac and i'll show you who can throw a punch >:(

kanellos (gbx), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

tuff chicks that think they can throw a punch and it not be a big deal can fuck right off tho

― all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Friday, December 24, 2010 4:04 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

honestly dont know if yr kidding, but would you feel the same way if a petite chick slapped you in the face for being a cad?

kanellos (gbx), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

not trolling here, am genuinely interested: would you be ok with (you or a male friend) punching a female friend if she said something totally offensive/out of line?

just1n3, Friday, 24 December 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

nope, never. which is why i've got a problem with someone assuming and taking advantage of that

or are you asking gbx?

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

gbx, i was also talking bout the general and not the specific btw, i mean power to the lot of ye if the odd box is a thing for ye imo

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

would you feel the same way if a petite chick slapped you in the face for being a cad?

well i'm sure it would never arise, but no, i'm talking full on punch type stuff to be specific

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

no. i am not okay with face punching at all, as a general rule. my main point was that i've been punched in the face twice, it didn't hurt, and my friends each time had a right to be angry, so i shrugged it off. and i think that under the circumstances, that's totally reasonable---cutting off contact, getting wildly angry, calling the cops, etc., would have been grossly disproportionate to the offense. and i think it's a little strange that anyone would a) think that that means that i am advocating/okay with violence and b) assume that all instances of friend-on-friend violence is this totally unacceptable thing that we should have hard and fast rules about. obv ppl from different backgrounds/circumstances will have different feelings on the matter of violence/abuse, but getting decked for saying something boorish just doesn't register to me as something worth getting upset about. we were laughing about it fifteen minutes later, we laugh about it now.

kanellos (gbx), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

tl;dr: you had to be there

kanellos (gbx), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

how did this even come up again? tabes punched a dude or something?

kanellos (gbx), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i am broadly agreeing with you with not breaking friendships, calling cops, etc, i think- but i'd have a hard time not losing it in the moment

ps i say plenty boorish shit, but i dunno, maybe i'm just naturally fuckin charmin in person or somethin

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

oh i was angry for a split second like "wtf was that for? you can't jsut punch ppl!" but then we both cooled down and agreed that the whole situation was ridiculous, bff

anyway the funniest thing to me has always been that it was twin sisters on two separate occasions

kanellos (gbx), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

not trolling here, am genuinely interested: would you be ok with (you or a male friend) punching a female friend if she said something totally offensive/out of line?

I know someone who has this as her stance, with her being the punched one. What with gender equality, the relative OK-ness of a one-off punch being a not-insane thing in some circumstances, etc.

I was taken aback, but it's one of those "it'd have to be a fucking awful offense to compensate for the physical disparity" things. Thinking about it, it still seems very, very wrong. Frankly, ever resorting to violence seems really wrong.

mh, Friday, 24 December 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

had a girl kick my fkn ass once, tho tbf she was a green belt in kyokushinkai karate. we are, indeed, bff so there you are. and we were like 14.

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Friday, 24 December 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Thread to get over a punchup

Strange Crüt (Trayce), Friday, 24 December 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

the friend/lover i punched is a notorious sociopath. he's the sort of guy who once snuck up behind me with cocaine-covered hands and rubbed that shit in my eyes.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Sunday, 26 December 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

haven't seen or talked to him in more than a year, tbh.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Sunday, 26 December 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link

the friend/lover i punched is a notorious sociopath. he's the sort of guy who once snuck up behind me with cocaine-covered hands and rubbed that shit in my eyes.

This changes things quite a bit--violence toward someone who has been violent toward you is quite forgivable.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 27 December 2010 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Debating just how much of a disaster one night of (probably drunk) ex-sex would be. On a 1-10 scale it might be an 8. Might also be worth it.

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 27 December 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

if y'all both single then get to it imo

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Monday, 27 December 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I've done ex-sex. generally rule is, do it long after you became exes to ensure any buried feelings are just that, very buried or nonexistent.

having sex with an ex weeks afterward=mistake I'll never make again.

Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Monday, 27 December 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

btw is it weird for my ex to show up in my dreams? and by this, I don't mean my most recent ex, I mean the one before this one.

I wasn't barely thinking about her at all, especially when I was dating new girl, and now she invades my subconscious every other night.

Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Monday, 27 December 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

nah it's not weird. or if it is, i'm gonna need to get advice on why my teacher from when i was 6 makes regular appearances.

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Monday, 27 December 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - not weird at all, esp. if you were together for a significant period of time

sarahel, Monday, 27 December 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

significant for me, not significant for most, so I guess that counts.

it's partially my most recent ex's fault for planting some of it in my brain

Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Monday, 27 December 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

in ur case she'll make an inception

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Monday, 27 December 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

nah it's not weird. or if it is, i'm gonna need to get advice on why my teacher from when i was 6 makes regular appearances.

It would be even weirder if your teacher was your ex.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 27 December 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

you got all the detail you need already

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Monday, 27 December 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

wait darrag what if she incepted the whole relationship and i never really went out with her

Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Monday, 27 December 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

not impossible, i've definitely spent long periods of my life in what turned out to be imaginary relationships

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Monday, 27 December 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^^^^^ ouch but yes.

Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Monday, 27 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

tho none of them were as hot or terrifying as cotillard

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Monday, 27 December 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I have about 5 different imaginary relationships going on right now.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 27 December 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

ughhhh holiday text

could be worse i spose but still

☜(⌒▽⌒)☞ (jeff), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 06:21 (thirteen years ago) link

apparently i need to be more assholish, because less so isn't working

mookieproof, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I've tried to be an asshole, but I'm a bad actor and they see through it.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link

the asshole angle only works for genuine assholes. when you're a nice guy they can tell you're just acting and they see through it.

sad but tr00

yelawolfenstein (San Te), Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link

we need some asshole girls that go for nice guys

gravity explodes (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link

is he gluing his pubes to his face

yelawolfenstein (San Te), Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

is she an asshole?

gravity explodes (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link

working in what way?

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link

that pic made me irrationally angry

kanellos (gbx), Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:52 (thirteen years ago) link

hands up who needs a drink

aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link

well it's 8am here but sure why not

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 December 2010 08:04 (thirteen years ago) link

okay, so, i've written about this plenty of places on ilx.

but my most recent ex has become my best friend, in this weird way. we spend a lot of time together. we really enjoy each other's company. we even occasionally have sex.

my problem is that i can't get over the 'relationship' aspect of it. the ilx gays know this, but yesterday, he shot a porno with one of his favorite lovers. since his parents were in town and bought him a hotel room, he went out to dinner with this lover and his parents, then i met them and we went for a drink, then they went back to the hotel. and i was alone. and when i finally got home, all i could do was cry. i wanted to meet his parents. i wanted to sleep in that hotel room. i wanted to be near him and share that sort of intimacy with him.

to make matters worse, he is shooting another porno today on his last day off for a week, and seems like he might be giving up on this project of the past couple months of building a house for himself, which is nearly completed, and which i've been helping him with. like, i have a feeling he's going to move down to santacruz with this boy, who is really that: a 21yearold porn star who gets flown all over the country to shoot porn and have sex with men. they don't share that much about their lives with each other (in my ex's own words), they just fuck and hang out.

it isn't even the sex, for while it was fucking amazing sex, it's more that i'm like: you're falling for HIM? what the fuck happened to us? i still don't get it, and i still am really upset about it, and i really dislike him right now. like, i love him more than anyone in the world. and we have a very real connection. but like... FUCK.

i need therapy. i really do.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 December 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i feel ya dude.

peacocks, Thursday, 30 December 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

but my most recent ex has become my best friend, in this weird way. we spend a lot of time together. we really enjoy each other's company. we even occasionally have sex.

In short, you haven't actually broken up with him. The jealousy you're feeling over his new man kind of confirms this. Maybe some time spent thinking of him as an ex rather than a friend might help.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

And let me express sympathy for your troubles.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

^

it's hard in some situations. i was in a relationship w/ someone i played music with and it was really hard to move on, in fact in toto it probably took 2 or 3 years to fully get over it, just because we were in each others face all the time. also i was in love with him and he was my best friend. also he dumped me and immediately started dating someone new and i had to have her in my face all the time. it was impossible, also she was stupid.

ilx get on my lvl (roxymuzak), Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

And it's going to be extra difficult for Tabes, because the porno movie industry is very, very close knit.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - yeah, i think the key thing to realize -- at least for me -- is "he WAS my best friend" - past tense. If he has fucked you over, or hurt you, then, really, he is no longer your best friend, and you need to put more distance between you and him. I mean, it's hard enough trying not to dwell/obsess/feel like shit about the situation in general, but when it's physically in your face on a regular basis -- well, I couldn't deal anymore, so I ended up quitting something that was a major part of my life.

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

also she was stupid.

HAHAH - *sigh* ... yeah

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah it was really hard for me to recognize that he *had* screwed me over until a long time after, because we were such good friends and i at the time just tended to take the blame and guilt for everything that happened in my life. i eventually, from talking to others about it etc, started viewing him as behaving crappily in the situation, which he had, and at that point i confronted him about it and we finally talked at length about it - this was like a year and a half later. after that weird period of time i could finally start getting over it. we are still v close friends today

ilx get on my lvl (roxymuzak), Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

friend of mine is going thru a similar sitch, and just can't bring himself to get angry at his gf despite the fact that she clearly wronged him, and in a way that a partner/best friend just shouldn't.

anyway tabes, i know yr obv a pro at casual sex and all, but i think you should probably just decide that yr ex is a) not your best friend, at least not right now and b) someone you should never sleep with again (unless, you know, its in a professional capacity).

kanellos (gbx), Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

the hardest thing for me was the avoiding/distance part, because i felt like that was weak, and i was "not a weak person" - like, i felt that i should be able to take it, and that was the "strong" way to deal with it.

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

xp I am really tempted to say it sucks worse when they are NOT stupid, but I think it must suck the same.

peacocks, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

it sucks differently, i think, but in the same quantity. i made what i think was the wise decision not to investigate this girl in order to prove/disprove her stupidity -- though i did read her artist's statement, and it was clunky and workmanlike and made assertions about her work that didn't really follow, but it wasn't horrible. Still, mine was way better.

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

the hardest thing for me was the avoiding/distance part, because i felt like that was weak, and i was "not a weak person" - like, i felt that i should be able to take it, and that was the "strong" way to deal with it.

― sarahel, Thursday, December 30, 2010 2:13 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

right. my bud is trying, explicitly, to be "dispassionate" about it and just try to focus on enjoying his now ex-gf's company for the remainder of their time together (similar situation to yrs, actually---he's decided to move, but not until march), and i'm like dude yr fortitude is admirable but ffs its perfectly reasonable to be angry/hurt/resentful right now, the less time you guys spend together the better

kanellos (gbx), Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

my fortitude went out the window one night after 4-5 shots of Jameson's and a dumb argument with some entitled motherfucker over a parking space.

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha. It is easy for me to think I am a worthless vomitous mass next to almost anyone my ex would date. If I wasn't, he'd be dating me, amirite? No.

xp. I always thought I was weak for not being able to pull off a clean break.

peacocks, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, well i figured anyone he would get with would be more "fun" than me, because they were new and not the person he'd been practically married to for over a decade, and his business partner to boot, and thus well-aware of all his flaws and mistakes.

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

plus i would win practically ever argument, which i'm sure wasn't fun for him -- not that it was my goal to win

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that is easy to understand. But the same goes for any new people you date. They'll be different most likely in some very refreshing ways.

peacocks, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

exactly - so i stopped beating myself up over the fact he rejected me for her ... though it was a bit more complicated than that

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

it's good that you at least were able to stop beating yourself up despite the complications.

peacocks, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, there are so many different things you can beat yourself up about in regards to a break-up, though. in reality, i think i just moved on to a different thing.

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link

here's the thing: he hasn't really wronged me, at least in my opinion. if anything, he's been very kind to me, and realized how hard the breakup has been for me, and tried to help me move on from the 'boyfriends' part of our lives so that we're at where we are now— really close, really caring about each other, but not in a way that spells out 'romantic relationship.'

and tbh, i've been really good for the past two months or so. i've been seeing other people both casually and in a 'getting-close' way, and i've also been spending a lot of time with him. i don't really want for him to not be my best friend. i think that part of it for me is that i can't stand the idea of losing him as a best friend, so i get super-jealouse of possible replacements...in the end, we're both in sex work, and i don't mind too much who he has sex with or how, but i'm still having trouble with the idea that there's another person in his life that he feels as strongly about as he does about me.

also, i don't think there's any way he'd move down to santacruz— he's spent so much time and money working on his house that it would be a total waste if he did so. plus, his work and his future work (commercial diving) are all up here. so.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

the thing is -- it's not really about whether you're a victim, or it's his fault -- if you're feeling hurt and jealous, then it probably would be better if you put more distance between the two of you, at least for the time being.

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

here's the thing: he hasn't really wronged me, at least in my opinion. if anything, he's been very kind to me, and realized how hard the breakup has been for me, and tried to help me move on from the 'boyfriends' part of our lives so that we're at where we are now— really close, really caring about each other, but not in a way that spells out 'romantic relationship.'

i dont know the situation but when you say stuff like this it sounds like youre just putting him on a pedestal--hes been "very kind to" you? great! bully for him! but that doesnt seem to be helping you, in the end

max, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

xp
yeah, that is difficult. I think with time it will get better, especially since he is helping you with it and you can be open about your feelings. It's damn frustrating how thin the line between "relationship" and "romantic relationship" can seem but there is one and it is significant. It also might be difficult to talk to others about it because most people want to put it in a him against you perspective. Anyway, I'm sure you'll eventually meet someone who fulfills all the aspects of your "romantic relationship" with your bff that didn't work out and I hope that you will be able to remain close friends.

peacocks, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, i tell him when he's pissing me off or has hurt me. and he tells me when i'm pissing him off or have hurt him. i do sort of put him on a little pedestal, but that's what i do with all of my close friends.

i think a lot of it for me is coming to the point where i don't think of our past as boyfriends, but live in the present as friends.

also, tbh, and sarahel you know this: if i were to keep distance from him, i'd have to keep distance from pretty much 90% of my friends, and i'm not going to do that.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

It's damn frustrating how thin the line between "relationship" and "romantic relationship" can seem but there is one and it is significant.

and it's even more frustrating if you're still hooking up afterwards and/or the physical attraction is still there and acknowledged.

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, we bought $180 scissor sisters tickets together for march. we're planning a trip to tijuana, loosely, since he lived there for a bit and wants to show me around.

it's not like shit is really bad. it's just that last night was really bad.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

table, your experience is so completely beyond anything i've ever gotten involved in that i'm utterly unable to really even begin to think of a reasonable approach
but if you're able to keep your wits about you where you are, it sounds like you're pretty goddamn resilient

predeep natsvitika (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

also, tbh, and sarahel you know this: if i were to keep distance from him, i'd have to keep distance from pretty much 90% of my friends, and i'm not going to do that.

i thought that would be impossible in my situation, which you know, but it actually worked out pretty well, though it involved uncomfortable conversations at times, "Are you planning on going to this? Oh. Well, i think it would be better if you didn't."

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

we're planning a trip to tijuana, loosely, since he lived there for a bit and wants to show me around.

Me & D loosely planned a road trip, because we both like road trips and had fun when we took them. This did not happen, and it was definitely for the best.

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

forks and peacocks, thanks.

sarahel, i would literally have to shut out some of the people that i care about most. i won't do that.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

also, the him versus me thing is really kind of moot- we're not fighting, and we're not in some sort of competition.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

you couldn't just spend time with them without m@tt? that isn't possible? i dunno - i think you're a lot more resilient than i am about these things, so if normally things are cool and you don't feel like shit about it, then disregard my advice. I spent a bunch of time feeling like, "well, everyone i know has an ex or two in 'the scene' and they seem to be fine around them, why shouldn't i?"

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

normally things are totally cool, and we work really well together one-on-one and in groups. i don't feel like shit about it at all. it's just that seeing him with this person in such an intimate set of circumstances set me off. ffs i've been in a hot tub, naked, with him and this person, and i didn't feel like shit. it was more the 'he's met my parents, he's staying in this hotel with me' thing.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, i mean those momentary things are totally natural and normal -- like i was sobby and miserable on Christmas, after months of feeling like i was pretty much over D. because this was the first Christmas we wouldn't be getting each other presents, and he had probably gotten presents for the new stupid girl. But then Christmas was over, and i felt better.

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah. i mean, the last person i was with for a long haul, before m4tt...it took six months for me to not get upset seeing him with another guy, but now, we're totally amazing friends who have tons of fun together when we're in the same place (he is here enough because he tours in a somewhat famous band).

but i've grown a lot since then (i was 23 then, 26 now), and i think things will be okay— usually a day or two is good in terms of just forgetting anything ever happened, and just returning to our rhythm.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

seriously dude, if you want we can hang out and i'll buy you drinks -- it's the least i can do after making you listen to/read my countless rants about our favorite member of the Se3ger family.

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, let's do that sometime. i have a thing tonight, but in the new year!!

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

god - that che guevara get-up he was wearing at that party was just really lol-worthy

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

ahaha. yeah.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

he'd have provided so much fodder for this thread roxy-style if he'd actually been my bf as opposed to a friend w/benefits

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

totally. he'd probably deserve his own thread after a bit.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

now it's just the occasional schadenfreude and head-scratching at his fb posts

sarahel, Thursday, 30 December 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

this man had a ponytail, che shirts, and sandals?!?!?!?

ilx get on my lvl (roxymuzak), Friday, 31 December 2010 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link

it wasn't a che shirt -- it was a che-style hat and a che-like military sweater, a che shirt would be too "rmde" cliche - and he is a champion eye-roller at stuff like that

sarahel, Friday, 31 December 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

he needs to become a champion eye roller about a lot of other stuff it seems

ilx get on my lvl (roxymuzak), Friday, 31 December 2010 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, dude's retardo montalban imo

sarahel, Friday, 31 December 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

he definitely lives on a fantasy island in his mind

sarahel, Friday, 31 December 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

first: a fantasy island in the mind = san francisco. just saying, he is a totally awkz dude who is awful to people and deserves mostly happy scorn, but i definitely also like in a fantasy island at least 50% of the time.

second: things are cool with the ex. no extended talk but enough to know.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Friday, 31 December 2010 07:46 (thirteen years ago) link

last night drunkenly admitted to an ex that I have fantasized about her while masturbating

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Friday, 31 December 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

What is an ex for if not for that, though?

Fetchboy, Friday, 31 December 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

the whole 'breaking up properly' thing discussed upthread is very otm and can't be said enough. last year after we broke up the second time (for good), she wanted to stay uber-best friends and close and I was still too hurt to let go. we were only really together nine months, but I was very much in love w/ her.

the not properly breaking up led us to fighting and arguing a few months later, and now we're still 'friends', but barely talk. but does she leave my mind? no.

well she did for about 3 months actually. even before I started dating the new girl, I'd made peace. but I guess new girl breaking up with me somehow managed to open the old wound, perhaps by her 'suggesting' it to me. i dunno.

It's not horrible now, I'm not waking up weeping or anything, I just more think of her now and then, sigh, and then hope for a nice one night stand to distract me.

it's like that Brian McKnight song "Anytime" if it were a year later and Brian was like "ehh it's aiiight but it's only aiiight"

O'Shea the Cubeman (San Te), Friday, 31 December 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link

so, i'm trying to play it cool, and we've hung out in the past couple days for brief periods, but i'm starting to think that maybe my friend's advice to 'get mad' is right.

so, i shot this solo scene with this company. i was like, 'you should do it too' and he was like 'yeah, i'll do it, then maybe we can do a scene together some time.'

and today i found out he's doing a scene. with the same lover he did a scene with for a different company a few days ago. and i am fucking pissed.

i understand that it's a professional thing, and it is, but he's like, 'the only reason i get these things is because i know people.' and all i wanted to say was 'well i know you, can you help me?' but also 'you're a lying scumbag.'

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Sunday, 2 January 2011 07:54 (thirteen years ago) link

It may have been out of his hands--the director and/or producer may have vetoed a scene between you two for some reason or another. Or it may not have. He still had no reason to act that way towards you after you found out about it.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 2 January 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - devil's advocate here - him doing a scene with the new dude does not negate the statement '...then maybe we can do a scene together some time.' Like "some time" does not equal "next available opportunity"

sarahel, Sunday, 2 January 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

:/

ENBB, Sunday, 2 January 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

you have to apply for this particular site, and if you apply as a duo/couple, you have to apply jointly. thus, while he was paying lip service to me about doing a scene with me sometime, he was simultaneously applying with this person. essentially, he was lying about his intentions.

a no-fault dick to suck. (the table is the table), Sunday, 2 January 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

This isn't about a break up exactly, but I'm currently in a position where someone is way more into me than I am her. That hasn't happened to me a lot, and I'm not sure how to deal with it w/o sounding like an asshole (of course, any time I'm slightly less than nice, I feel like I'm being an asshole).

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 2 January 2011 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

it's a sucky situation...ultimately though you can't force yourself to feel things that aren't there, it's beyond your control. unfortunately that fact rarely translates into feeling ok about it.

O'Shea the Cubeman (San Te), Sunday, 2 January 2011 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

It took me two years to fall in love with my husband. I liked him and enjoyed his company, and I knew more would happen later, but for a while he was very, very much more into me than I was into him.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 2 January 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, it was all cool until about a week before xmas when I could tell she was starting to get ideas. I told her last night that she was starting to advance this to a place where I'm never going to be able to join her (as nicely as possible...not cold and clinical like I just did here), and now she's embarrassed/butthurt/resentful. I told her we just shouldn't talk for a few days and then see what happens.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 2 January 2011 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

sometimes I think there's no guilt worse than seeing the glimmer in your partner's eyes and knowing you're not quite there with them. I think my first real relationship was like that.

O'Shea the Cubeman (San Te), Sunday, 2 January 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

but as Christine says above, you never know what will happen later. hang tough!

O'Shea the Cubeman (San Te), Sunday, 2 January 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

johnny, i think you did the right thing. it's natural that she's going to be embarrassed for a while, but i think eventually she'll realize that you showed a lot of respect for her in letting her down now instead of letting her continue to think it was going somewhere and getting more attached.

tehresa, Sunday, 2 January 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 2 January 2011 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, i think long term you'll feel much better about it

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 January 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

so i kind of agreed to yield the cat when she (not the cat) was settled in a place of her own

but i don't want to

mookieproof, Monday, 17 January 2011 04:18 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man that sux

all you need are plums (electricsound), Monday, 17 January 2011 04:29 (thirteen years ago) link

:( hang in there J. Yer a good bloke, this stuff is so hard eh? <3

Stargazey Pi (Trayce), Monday, 17 January 2011 04:31 (thirteen years ago) link

before you hand the cat over take it over to the new place in the dead of night and teach it how to find its way home using a memorable route dotted with cat treats.

estela, Monday, 17 January 2011 04:33 (thirteen years ago) link

he's an only cat and we've both been all like is he getting enough attention? and i think i do a pretty good job, but maybe not as good as she would.

he annoys me sometimes and i worry if i'm stimulating him enough. but shit he is so fucking cute and i love him

mookieproof, Monday, 17 January 2011 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link

:( cats rule hugz bro

aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 17 January 2011 04:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Could this be your time for a dog? Sounds like you each have love to give and there are lotsa animals that would gladly let you love them. Dog, cat, what have ye.

ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Monday, 17 January 2011 04:56 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i kind of think oh well i could just get another cat. (sorry ll, rudy is cute as hell, but not my type i guess.) but then it seems like there's no way that cat could be as cool as lyle.

(he is my first pet ever if you couldn't tell)

mookieproof, Monday, 17 January 2011 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link

La Lechera OTM

markers, Monday, 17 January 2011 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Aww, your first pet? You could try another pet. I've had some dogs in my time, and they were all special for some reason even when they were horrible peemonsters or w/e. Rudy may not be yr type but she's mine, so who cares ;)

ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Monday, 17 January 2011 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link

:( mookie, my dog is my first ever pet and i would be distraught if i had to hand him over.

lyle is such a great cat name.

estela, Monday, 17 January 2011 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link

and rudy is such a great dog name.

estela, Monday, 17 January 2011 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link

if i was a pet custody judge the pets would always go to the ilxors.

estela, Monday, 17 January 2011 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Pets seem like a super difficult part of this breakup mess, and I'm sorry you have to deal with this. Just trying to KIP. Estela otm re: custody.

ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Monday, 17 January 2011 05:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I know you've got a strong bond with this cat, but think of it as an opportunity to rescue one more of the 80 bajillion cats that are in shelters all over the country by getting a new friend.

Dr. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 17 January 2011 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i dunno what to do. she feels the same way, but then she hasn't been here for the last two months.

he is so fucking cute. and he likes my beard.

mookieproof, Monday, 17 January 2011 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link

awwwwwww

ENBB, Monday, 17 January 2011 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I've had a quite a few cats in my lifetime, and they've all had different personalities. But know this: if you're the only person around, they'll bond with you to some degree. Some will be super sweet, some will just be nice and civil (kind of like the one I have now). Best thing to do is ask the shelter if you can foster one you like for a couple weeks to see how it's going to work out.

Dr. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 17 January 2011 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link

before you hand the cat over take it over to the new place in the dead of night and teach it how to find its way home using a memorable route dotted with cat treats.

<3

have never heard of sharing custody of a cat btw, but maybe you could have him come back for visits?

basically just a 2/47 freak out (sic), Monday, 17 January 2011 06:12 (thirteen years ago) link

anyway, if you do give him up, you are now A Cat Person and will be able to find new joy with another puss, even though you miss the old one

basically just a 2/47 freak out (sic), Monday, 17 January 2011 06:13 (thirteen years ago) link

mookie, I'm sorry. You were nice to me in DC when I was posting away about a failed relationship. I thought that was upsetting but it was child's play compared to dealing with resolving something long-term.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

my current ex texted me about a half hour ago. we haven't really spoke much or seen each other in the last few weeks, but we're on good terms. so she's badly hinting that she got a new job and wants to celebrate, asked what I was doing, basically trying to hint that she wants to do something.

I, of course, am not REALLY in the mood, I'm mondo relaxed and watching The Godfather atm, but I do care about her and feel bad that she has nobody to celebrate with, so I offered, and of course every idea I come up with, doesn't sound good to her.

On the other hand, I'm concerned, as one of the main reasons I haven't gone out of my way to hang with her is that I want us to have time apart, because I don't want to lead her on, and have been afraid that she'll get attached again and want to get back together (and I don't want to).

I hate feeling like a bad guy but I'm kinda just hoping she decides not to go out tonight. I feel bad but it's like, she did also text me out of the blue and kinda dump this in my lap at almost 9 pm on a Friday night, not so subtley hinting that she wants to celebrate, then shoots down any idea I politely suggest.

am I being insensitive?

i pl0p bombs like hiroshima (San Te), Saturday, 5 February 2011 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link

u r being too sensitive

mookieproof, Saturday, 5 February 2011 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link

no, that's fuckin infuriating when people do the "i don't know what i want to do tonight!" but then proceed to shoot down anything you could possibly suggest. sb her.

and you are a part of everything and everything is like melting (ytth), Saturday, 5 February 2011 02:04 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks guys.

yea i mean honestly I just don't feel like GETTING UP and leaving the house tonight, really, cuz I have a lot else planned this weekend already.

i pl0p bombs like hiroshima (San Te), Saturday, 5 February 2011 02:19 (thirteen years ago) link

if you start dating your ex she becomes your girlfriend again

themoreyouknow.gif

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i ain't going to though

i pl0p bombs like hiroshima (San Te), Saturday, 5 February 2011 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link

glad we talked you out of it!

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link

lol grady

Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Saturday, 5 February 2011 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link

lol it wouldn't have been a date, it woulda been 'friendly hangout', but the precise reason I didn't want to do it is that both parties might not have understoodi t that way.

but here I sit still, so I wound up staying in. lol

i pl0p bombs like hiroshima (San Te), Saturday, 5 February 2011 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link

sb her.

― and you are a part of everything and everything is like melting (ytth)

tehresa, Saturday, 5 February 2011 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link

done.

i pl0p bombs like hiroshima (San Te), Saturday, 5 February 2011 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link

she was shooting down your stuff because she doesn't want to get back together, she just wanted to get her smang on to celebrate and then drift off

w/no hesitation (mh), Saturday, 5 February 2011 04:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Doin' the schadenfreude dance again, I am. Well kind of. Poor R. I feel sorry for him. Why? I'm too nice.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link

was he dumped because of the gig he played last week

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha! Naw. I dont know wtf is going on but yer theyre "on a break" lol whatever that means, o well.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 01:45 (thirteen years ago) link

- almost had a date this past weekend
- did not have a date, which is likely just as well
- not really sure what to do with this person tbh
- were my ex to learn of it, she would think i had been cheating with this person all along, which is not true but makes me uncomfortable

mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:01 (thirteen years ago) link

- were my ex to learn of it, she would think i had been cheating with this person all along, which is not true but makes me uncomfortable

feeling this

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link

This is the bastard part of that just after a breakup bit innit. I dont know how long ppl expect you to walk around in sackcloth and ashes but its never enough for some ppl.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Either they trusted you while in the relationship and will know that, or they didn't and the relationship wasn't built on trust anyway. People will try to believe all kinds of bullshit to remind themselves that a breakup was warranted and it's not your job to prove them right or wrong.

w/no hesitation (mh), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm usually the one being dumped, so its not come up that often for me, ha. :(

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link

i remember an ex that dumped me getting all sad and butthurt when she saw me out with someone new a full month and a half later. i didn't feel any sympathy whatsoever.

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link

six weeks clearly wasn't enough of a mourning period.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:29 (thirteen years ago) link

if you're the dumpee approx 10 seconds is enough mourning imo

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Hahaha totally OTM. Fuck em.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link

My ex is already like "oh well I'm fed up anyway hey btw i gave this cute girl my # on the weekend lol" ... so yeah, he hasnt changed a bit :|

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link

My crazy ex-fiancee from a few years back was banging the bartender at our favorite establishment within two months, and married to a dude she used to date within like... six?

I am pretty chill with all of that tbh

w/no hesitation (mh), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link

People gotta get on with their lives hey.

I think I find it more weird when someone's still hung up over a person 2 or more years later. Thats just... odd.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Hung up on/still miserable/not seeing anyone else, i mean.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't argue that. I've been in a similar situation, where a girl I was mad about dumped me FOR another guy and embarked on a relationship that quickly fizzled. So I became interested in someone else and things were going great and then she calls me crying and sad and I really didn't have a whole lot of sympathy at all, considering she'd already started up with this other fella behind my back.

That all happened about six years ago, but we're best friends now (or, more accurately, like Jerry and Elaine from Seinfeld).

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah :( and i know a very very good example of that

intervention from friends is imminent

xpost

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link

That all happened about six years ago, but we're best friends now (or, more accurately, like Jerry and Elaine from Seinfeld).

Hahah oh shit that sounds like me and Nick.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah :( and i know a very very good example of that

intervention from friends is imminent

Hm, curious, anyone i kno?

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link

not really, an ex of mine from maaaany years ago. needs a huge kickstart to get over her cunt recent ex

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:42 (thirteen years ago) link

ex texted me AGAIN yesterday. flat out ignored it. not gonna be your scratching post when YOU dumped ME!

door to door legume salesman (San Te), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Good for you *nods*.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Good luck Mooks.

Breaking up sounds awful. It's been soooo long since I've had to endure it that sometimes I forget how tough it is.

homosexual II, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah not something I care to go thru again in a hurry, esp the "oh god you mean I have to start again!?" kind where its been years. Ugh.

Doesnt make me feel any less lonely mind u.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm worried about dating again when I lose Lloyd. (He's old enough that even if he does die a natural death, I'm still going to outlive him by 20-30 years.) I'll get to make all of the relationship mistakes that you all made in your late teens or early twenties, but I'll get to make them with people in their forties, fifties, or sixties--people (I'm assuming will be) less tolerant of that kind of thing.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

people in their 40s, 50s and 60s are probably a lot less nitpicky and bullshitty i would hope

dark link (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm worried that I'll look less like Woman With Very Little Relationship Experience and more like Crazy Girlfriend to them.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

why are you even thinking about this? there's really nothing can be done about that pesky process called "aging" w/r/t looks, but you're in control of how you approach life
just live well now, it will make you feel better when you're old
sorry to get all self helpy but it's true

ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

watch a lot of golden girls and study their behavior. you'll have it made.

peacocks, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Good advice in any situation, actually.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 10 February 2011 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Dear T*** (my ex-ex),

It is unfair that even though it's now been 1 year and 3 months since we broke up, I still miss you a lot, and that you seem to get more attractive as time goes on. Also it sucks that today is the two year anniversary of our Valentine's Day dinner at C@rmela's, the first of many Italian restaurants we visited together.

So pathetic is it that I think of you more now than my most recent ex, and can't find excuses to hate you anymore like I used to be able to.

*sigh*

Yours truly,

R0b

furious styles p diddy kong (San Te), Friday, 11 February 2011 04:34 (thirteen years ago) link

you're posting that here instead of actually sending it to her, right?

gr8080, Friday, 11 February 2011 05:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Lol of course

furious styles p diddy kong (San Te), Friday, 11 February 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link

sure hope so

ullr saves (gbx), Friday, 11 February 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't send pathetic emails to people, ffs!

furious styles p diddy kong (San Te), Friday, 11 February 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link

aw

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 February 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

five years ago this moment, i was getting married

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 February 2011 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link

:(

ENBB, Saturday, 19 February 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

*hugs* mookie x

Trayce, Saturday, 19 February 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link

aw

ullr saves (gbx), Saturday, 19 February 2011 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link

<3

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 February 2011 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link

*comforts MP*

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 19 February 2011 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link

oh mookie...

VegemiteGrrl, Saturday, 19 February 2011 06:33 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 <3

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 19 February 2011 06:39 (thirteen years ago) link

aw mookie :(

calling planet dearth (sunny successor), Saturday, 19 February 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link

We're here for ya, pal

take yo shirt off, twist it round yo hand, spin it like a helikl0pter (San Te), Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

mookie, five years from this (that) moment there will be wonderful people/things in your life you don't know anything about yet because they are a surprise <3

estela, Monday, 21 February 2011 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^^^^^

ooma boogy wow wow (electricsound), Monday, 21 February 2011 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link

in my phone i have made an entry for feb. 18, 2016 that says "bitch at estela"

mookieproof, Monday, 21 February 2011 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll be long gone by then.

estela, Monday, 21 February 2011 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link

noooo

mookieproof, Monday, 21 February 2011 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link

just a bit of magical thinking, so let's be cool.

estela, Monday, 21 February 2011 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link

<3

Trayce, Monday, 21 February 2011 02:04 (thirteen years ago) link

thinking of making this thread into a self-help book, anyone object?

Fwiw & apropos of nothing, my first (and hopefully last) serious ex got married a fortnight ago. Spent almost a whole day in a navelgaze funk before remembering that it's six years since we broke up and i've spent five of them with the current ms mac and we're stupidly happy. Exes and breakups, though. Strange.

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Monday, 21 February 2011 11:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I look forward to several more serious exes

mh, Monday, 21 February 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

oh dear. Personally, i hope not!

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Monday, 21 February 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

so...things have not been great with the wife for some time...not quite done yet, but seems like we are heading in that direction. We've had our "talks" and done marriage counseling in the past (about two years ago) and things rebounded. Then I lost my job and things went progressively downhill from there. I started a new job last September and it just seems to get worse and worse. She never seems to be happy about anything anymore and neither am I. The joy we get is our son. She consistently gets on me to spend "family time" all the time, I don't think she understands that I sometimes want to be alone or not always want to spend "family time"...sometimes I want to go be a guy and have a beer and watch a sporting event with my friends. I ask for once a month.

Im not perfect by any means and have my flaws that she is not happy about, but blah blah blah she's not the same person I fell in love with 15 years ago. She's turned into her mother. I know she wants structure and stability but she is never happy with anything i do anymore and is putting me down repeatedly over my failures at acquiring a college degree...which in my mind is not the fucking be all end all of life. Im just fed up.

She also is worried at all times at how she is perceived by her parents....she's 35 and is still seeking constant approval from them.

I probably sound like a selfish cunt. Im just exhausted.

Who's got advice?

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

You're trying to get over a breakup that hasn't even happened yet?

What's the status as of right now. Are you def splitting?

Also, :( I am sorry to hear this. I know how much it sucks.

ENBB, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

chris, what's she doing? I mean, is she working, does she spend time with friends or with other moms, does she have things she does in spare time?

I have friends in this boat and it really sounds like she's either genuinely down on the relationship, or she just isn't getting any validation from her life so she's searching for it from her parents or by constantly having you engage in "family" stuff.

mh, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

yup, because im actually more sad at the thought of not seeing my son daily at this point then not seeing her. Sometimes I feel that if we did seperate it would help me realize that i still do care about her but im terribly worried that i'll realize i don't...and that scares me. SHe's all i've know for a long time, we've been through hell and back together (fertilty issues, her post partum psychosis etc..) and we made it through. How can we not get through this baffles me.

we are up in the air at this point, we go from lets seperate to lets wait it out. Which i don't know if we are holding on to something purely for our boy or because we still care for one another? I do still love her...just seems not as much as I used to.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Sometimes I feel that if we did seperate it would help me realize that i still do care about her but im terribly worried that i'll realize i don't...and that scares me

that's heartbreaking stuff chris. all the best.

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

if couples counseling helped you guys rebound once maybe it would help again?

max, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yes, she works constantly. she has a great job, which stresses her out and she travels a lot for it..she just got back from a 5 day trip. and she does spend time with friends and other mothers...she tells me she wants the best for me and just feels disappointed. I'm not a very ambitious guy.

She was brought up in a house where "appearance to others is everything"....social stats etc....education...she always follows up things with "what are my parents going to say"...WHO CARES, its your life now...not your parents. When i got tattooed a month ago it was "my parents are going to think your a bum". FUCK OFF.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

honest to god, the only response to that is "if you care more about what they think than what I think, then it's obvious who you need to be living with."

old man yells at poop first thing in the morning (pixel farmer), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm really sorry about your troubles & situation, btw. Not trying to be flippant.

old man yells at poop first thing in the morning (pixel farmer), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

she also used to make me cover up my tattoos when visiting her parents and not smoke cigarettes at their house (outside and away from the house) until last year I said fuck it and took my shirt off and lit up a camel wide right on the front lawn.

i think we will probably give the counseling another shot, its worth it. I guess.

pixel, thats actually something I need to say to her and i didn't take it as flippant at all.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

and granted my upper body looks like a russian prisoner but it doesn't make me any less of a person because im tattooed and not a college graduate.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

It sounds like she wants what she believes is the quantitative "best" for you (career, time spent) and not the qualitative (i.e. shit that actually makes you feel human). If she gets to spend time with friends, leave you during trips where you're presumably taking care of the kid, then you need to have your own space, too.

I swear, people spend so much time trying to do what they think they're supposed to do to be fulfilled that they never figure out what actually makes them feel.

imo if she had the cojones to marry the dirtiest dogg in town, she should know how she's got to roll. If you're even half as cool in real life as on ilx, you're a pretty awesome guy, chris.

mh, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

^ she was the prepster, i was not. and she was down for that back in the day...i think it boils down to the fact that men basically dont want to grow up.

yup all i ask is for a little space now and then and i would be happy as a pig in shit.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

and thanks MH!

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's a good point -- were you the russian prisoner when you two got together? Did she marry you with the idea that she'd "fix" you or clean you up? Fuck that, a relationship partner is not a fixer-upper project.
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old man yells at poop first thing in the morning (pixel farmer), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

and your right its what she perceives as the best for me...not what i see.

i had a few tattoos when we got together and she liked that...as i got older i acquired more and will continue to acquire them, i like them and its basically the only "art" i enjoy.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

That "men don't like to grow up" thing is kind of bullshit. Some people have differing tastes / needs as they get older or have kids or whatever, but some really don't. The idea that everyone is going to want to calm down, buy a house in the suburbs, drive their kid to soccer, work some corporate job as they get older is completely wrong.

Different types of maturity, too.

mh, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah im obviously not the most mature 36 yr old going, but i have my moments. Fact is most of my married friends with kids act just like me....and when we all get together watch out. Our wives love that.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

The thing that gets me is that some women in these situations will satisfy all the hallmarks of maturity/stability, but then act like total shits in every other way. Emotional maturity is worth a hell of a lot to me.

mh, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

thats the thing, my wife isn't emotionally mature at all. sometimes she acts emotionally like a 18 year old.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

i find that with people some times.
they reach hard for the typical symbols of maturity yet have none to their personality at all.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

(not that that's nec. your wife)

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

a lot of people say that about my wife that she has no personality. She used to, she sort of lost it when she started this job 7 years ago. She's very rarely fun anymore.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link

is it because she is a mother now that all fun went out the window?

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

to turn to the old cliche - maybe she just forgot how to have fun? her job sounds stressful.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

try slipping some extacy into her cereal. who knows!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

(i'm being silly now because you set the tone with the fireman chick thread)

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

i tried to get her to smoke some pot with me a few weeks ago and she was all "im a mother".

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

man.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i think that line might apply to her mentality in more than just the pot smoking situation.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

does she genuinely want to be with you, or just some idealized image of you?

sarahel, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

imo if she had the cojones to marry the dirtiest dogg in town, she should know how she's got to roll. If you're even half as cool in real life as on ilx, you're a pretty awesome guy, chris.

One of the most OTM things I've read on ILX in years imo.

Trayce, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link

we talked about this on the sex droughts thread chris & I don't know how much of this is "about" sex, but I'm guessing that's a significant part of it. What you're saying here makes that clearer: post-partum depression is just another reason why she might want to avoid sex now, since there's presumably a chance every time you fuck that you'll spawn again.

I'm not really in a similar situation to you but I can relate, being the same age as you & married with kids for a while now. The one thing I'd say is that it's tough to be a 30-something professional married mother---lots is expected of you, on the job, from your kids, in the sack, & we don't have great models for how to manage all these things. But to get to that point, you kinda gotta learn to be a robot, to balance all that stuff...& I think it's not clear what's left, relationship-wise, after becoming a robot.

Euler, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link

xp The problem is not that men don't grow up, the problem is that women are expected to grow up too quickly and too much.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link

how so?

sarahel, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

We're expected to be the Great Moral Leaders, Man Tamers, and Quicker Picker Uppers of the world from the time we turn twelve or so until the time we die.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link

We're expected to be their MOMS, more like it.

Trayce, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link

One minute you're footloose and fancy free, next thing you know your husband thinks you're supposed to fetch his cane and help him empty his bedpan, the usual.

mh, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - this was not my experience.

sarahel, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link

lovin these generalisations

vag vag vag (electricsound), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, those women, always expecting you to bring home the bacon and buy them fancy jewelry

mh, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link

This isn't the place for the ensuing argument, but I don't necessarily agree with Trayce & Christine’s sentiments at all.

xps glad to see i'm not alone

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, these are messages women receive, and some receive greater pressure from family/peers/etc. to be a certain way. However, our society is not that oppressive such that women have to concede to these "expectations" -- doing so is a choice, and there are other models.

sarahel, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link

But...but...I can bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan, and never, never let you forget you're a man.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

date a vegetarian or a vegan

sarahel, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link

ha i always seem to date vegos so i cook my own dern bacon

vag vag vag (electricsound), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha yeah the last 6 dates I've had have been with veggies somehow

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link

must be a chick thing

vag vag vag (electricsound), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Right, I wasn't saying that we were forced to act that way at all. It's just a hum in the environment that's louder for some people than others. Now let's get back to working on Chris's problem.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, there are definitely still people looking for a "traditional" american-style 1950s television-fashioned relationship with those female and male roles, but you know what? It's no longer expected that everyone's relationship be like that, it's not held up as an ideal in society, and a lot of dudes either resent the accusation that it's what men want.

Seriously, I have dated women who pretty obviously are seeking this sort of thing and I have no interest in it. For every person who's young I know who has acted like this, though, I can think of a friend in their 50s+ who definitely doesn't live like that.

mh, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link

you know that by posting about it here, you are going to break up w/her?

sarahel, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link

chris is being pessimistic, I'm hoping we can move him to the girl probs thread in the next few months

mh, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Jesus I wasnt serious!

Trayce, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link

well tbf some of yr bfs trayce *have* seemed to have expected that of you

vag vag vag (electricsound), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, they have :/

Trayce, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link

As a dude that has been in the "rocker boyfriend who freaks out the squares and my parents" boyfriend role more than I can count, you have my sympathies Chris. It is supremely frustrating to have that turned against you, esp when you know that it was part of the driving force that got both of you where you are now. I wish you the best, and counseling is worth the time obv in your situation, but barring actual destructive relationship behaviour you have every right to stick to your guns re: the stuff that makes you you.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link

barring actual destructive relationship behaviour you have every right to stick to your guns re: the stuff that makes you you.

― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:15 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is the best advice i have ever heard tbh

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

i am a vegetarian
i like regular blowjobs

gr8080, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link

[/meat joke]\

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link

feel for u Chris, man. Not sure I have anything helpful to say, except do what is in your heart, and don't front.

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 08:20 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks all! it does suck and it is pretty hard, i also think my meds dull my feelings too. i have sort of a flat affect around her, or maybe its just her. I think we will probably end up in a "trial" seperation and see how that goes. Just really sucks because of my son.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

does she genuinely want to be with you, or just some idealized image of you?

― sarahel, Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i think up until recently she wanted to be with me and now wants an idealized image of me. A lot of her friends from her hometown seem to have it all in her eyes, lots of money, nice big houses, husbands who have high paying jobs....etc...etc. I think she fantasizes about that life sometimes even if she tells me that is not her. She knew I wasn't a college type when we met and hell i had a pretty high paying job in the investment industry for years until i got laid off.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Is something in the air these days? Sorry to hear that news, Chris, and I hope you see a clearer way forward soon.

Roxy's opening post to this thread was so inspirational that I made my own list of "Things that are awesome about breaking up" before the break was even final.

1. Never watch the following again: Family Guy, Seinfeld, Frasier, South Park.
2. Never change my name for anyone.
3. Leave the house whenever I want.
4. Not cook for anyone.
5. Not launder for anyone.
6. Live in Brooklyn.
7. Watch Die Hard 2.
8. Work late.
9. Eat hummus for dinner.
10. Cook meat rare.
11. Sleep alone and undisturbed.
12. Ride my bike everywhere.
13. Move the furniture whenever I want.
14. Not speak to anyone all day.

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Friday, 25 February 2011 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

thing is, if you were some regular straight-laced banker dude she'd probably be bored

i hope things work out, chris

p.s. a lot of my married friends are having the same problem :/ :/

homosexual II, Friday, 25 February 2011 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck family guy

☠ (roxymuzak), Friday, 25 February 2011 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link

instant breakup

☠ (roxymuzak), Friday, 25 February 2011 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link

otm

gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Friday, 25 February 2011 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link

the worst of all shows

☠ (roxymuzak), Friday, 25 February 2011 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link

so cheap

mh, Friday, 25 February 2011 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been doing almost everything on Laurel's list forever, and I've been married for 18 years.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 25 February 2011 03:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Please tell me about this idyllic experience

mh, Friday, 25 February 2011 03:36 (thirteen years ago) link

It's not as idyllic as you'd imagine--we pretty much have our own separate lives under the same roof. It gets lonely at times.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 25 February 2011 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually I was referring to the fact that this is the thread to get over a breakup, you "helpfully" tried to say that it's possible to do those things in a marriage, but you're very often talking about how depressing your life is so these seem like small wins if we're trying to see your life as encouraging.

Is that blunt enough, or did my use of the word "idyllic" not at all sound sarcastic?

mh, Friday, 25 February 2011 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not trying to paint my life as encouraging, not at all. I just have a slightly different perspective on things like this than the average ILXor, and I wanted to share.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 25 February 2011 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I fucking hate family guy

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Friday, 25 February 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link

NOT FUNNY.

gr8080, Friday, 25 February 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

the one thing i like about family guy is he looks exactly like one of my old friends father.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Friday, 25 February 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

so in three weeks things have gotten worse...at this point my son is recognizing it and saying out loud when we are fighting "STOP IT, STOP IT!" Ive just got to get some things in order and I think im leaving. ugh.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah, TWO! (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

so sorry, chris.

we can't rule out the supernatural no matter how much I would like to (stevie), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

oh dude...that sucks. (hugs)

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm so sorry that things got to that point. *another hug*

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah sort of blows...the thought of not being there in the morning to see my son off to daycare is killing me.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah, TWO! (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry dude, that sounds deeply unpleasant

I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Aw shit, Chris :(

Borads of Candida (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry chris.

the '' key on my keybord is not working (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Jesus Christ. I'm sorry for you and I'm sorry foe your little one.

i have a hot bagel waiting for me in my bed so ill say this: (kkvgz), Thursday, 24 March 2011 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't get her...this morning at 5am before leaving for the airport she woke me, kissed me and said she loved me. First time in months. WTF?

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah, TWO! (chrisv2010), Thursday, 24 March 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link

she reads ilx....???

the '' key on my keybord is not working (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 March 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link

unless you've been lettin her know in other ways how close you are to breaking point?

the '' key on my keybord is not working (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 March 2011 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe even with all the fighting going on and an impending break up, she too will still feel love for you and is pained by the situation. Also, you say she left for the airport, with a (big?) journey ahead she'd want to let you know that?

I don't know. I hope you can both come to a resolution. All the best Chris.

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 24 March 2011 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link

she has no clue what ILX is and wouldn't be interested in anything on ILE or ILM so i doubt that one. I think she senses we may be coming to an end and maybe realizing she doesn't want us to end.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah, TWO! (chrisv2010), Thursday, 24 March 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link

hopefully that can be a positive for you guys?

the '' key on my keybord is not working (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 March 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

honestly, i do hope so. i still love her to death but her attitude these days is in the shitter.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah, TWO! (chrisv2010), Thursday, 24 March 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link

aw Chris this stinks :( I hope you two make it through this.

homosexual II, Thursday, 24 March 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

dude take a moment next time you talk to her to just say "when you kissed me and told me you loved me before leaving today, that felt great. i love you too." and just leave it at that w/o adding on the part about how much she sucks lately.

gr8080, Friday, 25 March 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

yah gr8080 hugely otm, posi reinforcement can go a million miles relationship ime

broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 25 March 2011 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Oops, single.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

what zora? did you leave?

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Saturday, 26 March 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

? !

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 March 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

! That was a bit sudden even after what you've said recently... wha happen!? :(

Borads of Candida (Trayce), Sunday, 27 March 2011 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe she made up with him

buzza, Sunday, 27 March 2011 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link

that is not generally the understood meaning of "single", also thread title means we aren't exactly leaping to conclusions here, Buzza

VegemiteGrrl, Sunday, 27 March 2011 04:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't physically left, but we are finished. When I can drive again, I'll be staying with my dad while I sort myself out. Ho hum.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Sunday, 27 March 2011 08:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll explain when I'm not having to type on an iPhone.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Sunday, 27 March 2011 08:40 (thirteen years ago) link

OK, so having accidentally stirred myself up by getting into a conversation about my situation on the cheating thread, I realised that I actually didn't feel as safe as I'd been telling myself I did, and that, as I've mentioned on the sex droughts thread as well, the lack of intimacy and desire on his part has been painful, and he's shown no sign of wanting to sort that out.

This is not unreasonable.

Boyface and I intended to start a family 2 years ago and it was put on hold b/c of his chronic pain and depression and some financial problems. He has now had a successful operation, is no longer in pain, is mentally well, we are financially secure, but he changed his mind about having kids back in September. We've been batting it back and forth since then, both of us hoping he'd change his mind. He hasn't.

Gallingly, as I don't really approve of going to great lengths to drop yet more sprogs on a planet already massively overburdened with humanity, I find I can't choose him over the chance to have a baby. I am already having treatment for fertility problems (right now just removal of a polyp) and when & if those are resolved, I will be starting IUI or IVF. I asked him to at least be my donor, even if he didn't want to actively parent, but he won't, so I'll be going ahead with donor sperm.

Perhaps if our relationship had been less fraught, and there'd been more lovin', I'd have made a different choice, but we are (as my boss likes to say) where we are. We have been trying to stay together, after splitting up twice and backsliding both times, because after all my chances of conception are less than 50/50, and if I can't conceive, we would both like to stay together, hat story qua hat story (the sex thing would definitely have to be fixed).

I wanted to do this here, in Bristol, where I finally feel at home after years of post-divorce rootlessness, in our flat which I love, and where I feel safe. Boyface has been very supportive of this idea and we have mostly been getting along just fine. But somehow, talking about some of what Laurel and others said on the cheating thread, we got onto the details of how it works if I do manage to conceive, and he freaked out a bit. The whole thing about the impact of stress on the conception and pregnancy - something clicked in his brane and he realised that if anything goes wrong, he'll blame himself.

So, in a more-or-less rational, amicable but still utterly suckerpunchy way, we agreed that it would probably be better to split up now. I can take responsibility for my own safety. I just need to find somewhere to live up in London (where I work and where my dad and my best friend live - a better support network than I have in Bristol w/o bf.) I don't, don't don't want to go, but it is so obviously the only way forward. Deep breath, jump.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Sunday, 27 March 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

best of luck

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 March 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Thank you. Are you someone who uses fish as an excuse to avoid homework, or the fish-god of not getting things done?

Confused Turtle (Zora), Sunday, 27 March 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

i've been bestowed with amazing powers of not-getting-things-done

salmon of etc

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 March 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

strong decisions Zora. I'm exploring the have-a-kid-someday possibilities with my girl for the next several years and we're at odds and i dunno where we're headed either so i'm feeling you.

slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I wish you both all the best with it forks.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

If only I had some wisdom to offer, but as you see, I suck royally at this.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Good luck Zora (and forks)...much love, support,, hugs

VegemiteGrrl, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I wish I had some wisdom to offer you, Zora, but I can at least offer my sympathy.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Zora, I've been in the position where both parties realised breaking up was the best option, and even when you know that it still hurts, you have all my empathy.

Borads of Candida (Trayce), Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

oh Zora, my sympathy and the best of luck to you, esp with the stress of moving on top of everything.

c sharp major, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks guys. I'm feeling surprisingly robust and capable, considering I just found out my foot is perma crippled and my work contract ends in 8 weeks. This can only be relief, ergo I was a lot more anxious than I knew, ergo this has to be the right thing to do... right? lulz.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Sunday, 27 March 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Ofc the Tramadol helps.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Sunday, 27 March 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Been thinking abt you since our exchange the oth day. I'm sorry this is stressful and uncertain but I wish you the perspective of an exciting future with decisions between "good" and "better" waiting for you to make them, rather than being afraid of the unknown.

I felt powerless as long as I stayed with a bad thing, but when I took steps and firmed my resolve, I was surprised how driven I felt and how good it felt to take my powers of decision-making and agency back. I hope for the same for you!

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Monday, 28 March 2011 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link

hey zora, i don't know you at all but i would like to say that i'm super proud of you for doing this - it's not easy breaking up with someone who is really cruel and horrible, let alone someone who you essentially get along with and feel at least superficially safe with. and laurel totally otm about how suddenly this sense of agency returns to your life.

i also think one of the most important things to remember is that it's really hard to meet some who is right for you while you're in a relationship with someone who is totally wrong for you.

just1n3, Monday, 28 March 2011 06:19 (thirteen years ago) link

That last sentence is so OTM it makes me want to cry.

Borads of Candida (Trayce), Monday, 28 March 2011 06:33 (thirteen years ago) link

it's really hard to meet some who is right for you while you're in a relationship with someone who is totally wrong for you.

true, but it can happen

ˆ°ᴥ°ˆ (electricsound), Monday, 28 March 2011 06:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I like to think that if he was *totally* wrong for me, I'd have gone before this. We are good together. We've had really crappy luck and now we want irreconcilable things from life, but we love each other, and we make each other laugh.

I'm not looking for another man. I can't mix someone else up in this baby thing.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Monday, 28 March 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago) link

If anyone has any tips for moving on that don't involve booze or casual sexxing, drop 'em on me.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Monday, 28 March 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

stay busy, but really you'll have that covered if baby is a go.

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Monday, 28 March 2011 11:59 (thirteen years ago) link

the best way to get over a man is to get under another one.

kate78, Monday, 28 March 2011 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry for inane advice

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Monday, 28 March 2011 12:02 (thirteen years ago) link

XP!

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Monday, 28 March 2011 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, Kate78paws.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Monday, 28 March 2011 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I think that's Mae West. Or Dorothy Parker?

kate78, Monday, 28 March 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link

That line is precisely what I was thinking of when I said 'no casual sex' 'cause it's the go-to line for all my girl type friends, and uh, so not going to happen.

Dear fish-god of not-getting-things-done, busy is good advices and you are quite right. If the baby thing happends I will have enough to occupy my mind for the next few years I should think.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Monday, 28 March 2011 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link

of all the things i've been called on ilx, i think that's my fave

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Monday, 28 March 2011 12:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah if i leave, there is no way in hell i would want another woman right now. F-THAT.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Monday, 28 March 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I do hope you work things out with your wife, Chris.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Monday, 28 March 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

trying...but who knows. im hoping that spring time and nice weather might help.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Monday, 28 March 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

my parents were pretty unhappy together when I was growing up, and as a teenager in particular I just didn't understand why mum was so determined to stay together for us kids, when we knew full well that things were pretty shit between them.

a lot of water has passed under the bridge since then, and now that all of us kids have moved out of home Mum & Dad have found a friendship now, which is pretty cool to see. They're not in love, but they actually go places together, and laugh.

anyway, Chris...I don't really know where I'm going with this except to say that if you make it work with your wife for the sake of your little boy, that is something.

But if for whatever reason it doesn't work, the fact that you tried matters an awful lot.

I know you can't force these things...I guess bottom line I'm thinking of you and I really hate seeing how sad this has made you. <3

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 28 March 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks!

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Monday, 28 March 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i hope someone can help with this

broke up with gf of 2.5 yrs three weeks ago. less than a week goes by before she's fingerbanged by another dude. pure fluke presented this info to me and i confronted her about. she explained it away, saying that after our breakup she "lost it" (reasonable, she's super emotional). they are now seeing each other/dating/idk; regular sex for sure.

my thinking is that 2.5 years of serious commitment obliges a more-than-modest get-shit-together period, yes? this is my first serious relationship so i'm open to counter arguments. now, it had stagnated and we hadn't had sex for a few weeks prior to the breakup. nonetheless, i can't wrap my head around how the fact that she "lost it" okays what has transpired. maybe MAYBE a one-off thing, but this is A thing now. she thinks i'm missing something important and i'd like someone to tell me what.

shaane, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 05:23 (thirteen years ago) link

you guys broke up, she can hook up with over people, so can you.

sarahel, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 05:26 (thirteen years ago) link

2.5 years of serious commitment obliges a more-than-modest get-shit-together period, yes?

no. especially for the dumpee. they deserve to be banging like a dunny door in the wind mere seconds after getting the chop

Преве́д LIVE (electricsound), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 05:26 (thirteen years ago) link

that's kinda what breaking up implies, right? You are no longer a couple. You are not entitled to monogamous sexual relations with the other person.

sarahel, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i mean at one point me and this girl were actively pursuing other people while we were still living together

kind of lol in retrospect

'hey can i have the bed tonight'
'oh look at you....text me when its safe to come back'

Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 05:43 (thirteen years ago) link

this is all disheartening and cynical. you're right tho. i gotta take advantage of the womens-to-me ratio. wednesday is hump day.

shaane, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 05:57 (thirteen years ago) link

still tho :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcCFdD1Fa9k

shaane, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 06:00 (thirteen years ago) link

feelin u bro, after my last big breakup i had a minor lonely rageout upon discovering --months later-- that she was seeing someone else, so i can't front like i don't know where you're coming from. still though, my lesson there and i think the lesson others might try to impart is that when it's done it's done, no fair holding one another to a standard that no longer applies--its raw now, and might be for a bit, but sometime soon it won't be raw no more and you'll feel fine again.

Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 06:03 (thirteen years ago) link

did you dump her, did she dump you, or was it mutual?

sarahel, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 06:06 (thirteen years ago) link

totally, and thanks much for the realness. realized tonight that time apart is necessary as we'd been working on trying to be friends, which will have to wait. honestly, soso glad it's over anyway and thank god it's spring.

shaane, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 06:11 (thirteen years ago) link

not that that really matters -- it sucks and it hurts, and sometimes its easier to deal with the pain by presenting yourself as the victim of someone else's wrongdoing. And because it's so painful, you sometimes feel like it deserves mourning or its own special week of grief, because it's significant, and you've devoted a lot of emotional energy to the other person and the relationship, and thus they should strictly observe your mourning period or special week of grief. But in reality, that seems as stupid as giving yourself a medal for some trivial accomplishment only you care about.

sarahel, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 06:15 (thirteen years ago) link

mutual. the love was def there, which is why im so confused about how shit has gone, but i have no time for a serious relationship. mostly bummed it came down to wrong time/place sorta sitch.

shaane, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 06:15 (thirteen years ago) link

time heals all wounds w/ this shit. until then, take walks, drink beer with friends, put your weird energy toward creative projects.

max, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 06:17 (thirteen years ago) link

truth. i had preconceived notions about how a good relationship is supposed to end well. right on about the selfish aspect. I must find a new world to revolve around me, surely.

shaane, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 06:19 (thirteen years ago) link

dude that was succinct as shit.

shaane, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 06:23 (thirteen years ago) link

never gainsay a fingerbang

buzza, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 06:37 (thirteen years ago) link

giddy up.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

imo actual good relationships are only good either while you're in them, or in retrospect from a long time in the future. if you just broke up, then it wasn't that great, right?

sarcasdick (mh), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, there's absolutely no other way to get past this but to continue living and finding new things that make you happy so, even while it won't help, be aware that feeling shitty is the natural outcome
like if you cut your finger while slicing lemons it's going to hurt way more than it seems like it needs to but that's not your fault and there's a limited number of options to make it feel better. Bandage, meditate, wait.

slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Hit something with your other hand so you don't notice the first one as much.

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

That's actually really good advice! My last devastating breakup was the impetus that got me into the gym for like two to three hours a day and i lost a ton of weight and got strong as I've ever been. Working out was the only thing that kept me from going fetal; like the old saying goes, it's tough to complain about heartbreak when you've just been punched in the stomach.

slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I mean the "hitting something else" can veer from difficult but ultimately productive activities all the way to blatantly self-destructive ones -- you have to choose your own adventure in this.

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

things have sort of changed in my house in the past few days, i finally got laid after two years and we've been snuggling all night for the past few nights and i've overall felt pretty good. oh and with my wife.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

wtg Chris!

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

oh awesome

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

That is excellent.

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

That's great Chris!

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah its been pretty great...i think the whole "he's actually leaving" thing sort of straightened us out. Hopefully it will last...or it could just be hysterical bonding.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

now im all worried its "hysterical bonding"

There is very little information on this phenomenon, but it appears to be a primal, instinctual way for the partners to reconnect and reclaim each other. The intimacy encourages communication and a closeness that may otherwise take some time to re-build.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

im gonna try to "straighten her out" again tonight ;)

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I think you should let go of the second-guessing and enjoy the cuddlesex

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

don't look giftsex in the mouth...or something

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont know if it was exactly a gift for her since it was like i put it in and exploded. its been a long time...what do you want from me!

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i was like a teenager that got touched on the penis for the first time.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sure she knew it was a, uh, gesture of gratitude

sarcasdick (mh), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

let me rephrase: what Dan said

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

and last night was really the first time in months that i slept like a log. I even had a dream i was going to prom.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

hopefully she didnt say anything like 'and then you wonder why you have to wait a year' cos that would be bad

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link

:D :D

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

\o/

Confused Turtle (Zora), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

nope nothing like that. trust me, i finished her off too.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

"Dreamed I was going to prom" deserves to be a euphemism for something. In a good way.

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

But did you go as a viking?

Si tu parles, tu meurs. Si tu te tais, tu meurs. Alors, dis et (Michael White), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

i wasn't going to prom with her. it was weird, my mother did not approve of my date.

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

(Dr Freud scratches beard thoughtfully)

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah no kidding

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I dreamt that my (ex)bf changed his mind about having a baby and we had celebratory sex and it was awesome. Sadly nothing of the sort has happened.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

:(

Get me two meatball sandwiches Utah! TWO! (thebingo), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

was going to say "kiu chris" until I got to

it was like i put it in and exploded.

Neo Tony (sic), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link

:-) Chris.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Chris's oversharing is like my 3 year old nephew telling me about the awesome dump he took in the toilet...sure it's TMI, but you're just so happy for him that you let it go :)

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

stoked for you, chris

I'm unfamiliar w/ the term "hysterical bonding" but may have experienced it during my last breakup

imo if you've been really disconnected for a while, ANY honest and vulnerable communication can result in reigniting intimacy

gr8080, Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 31 March 2011 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Well done Chris. Once it's reignited, you've got a decent chance, no matter how it happened. If the implication of 'hysterical' is 'it might not last', I guess you take your chances with that and try to rebuild in other ways more slowly and steadily.

ljubljana, Thursday, 31 March 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I lurk on this thread because I don't quite know where my relationship is going and it helps to remind myself that if it ends, it won't be the end of the world, I will not be the only person on earth going through it, and people (you) are very resilient in the end run.

ljubljana, Thursday, 31 March 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Except me. My girl left meWAAAAHHHHH :-( and I can't WAAAHHH get over it. No matter what happens, I never again have what I lost. It was perfect. Why did I let her go? whywhywhywhywhy? She taught me everything I know about lifelovemusicfateunderstandingempathyeverythingeverything. She was gorgeous she still is wtf is wrong with my eyes? And that soft, sultry voice that purrs over each word and her silky soft touch i'll never feel again. I want her i need her her her her She's gone forever

Lee626, Friday, 1 April 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Not feeling very resiliant.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Monday, 4 April 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link

And if ever there were a post for posts sake, that's one. I'm just so... tired, and flat.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Monday, 4 April 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Ach sweetie. Some days are like that.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Emotional fitness is sensibly much like physical fitness; you can get just worn out. If you were physically exhausted, you'd know to rest, right?

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 01:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess I don't know how to rest from this.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 11:19 (thirteen years ago) link

zora, i think you are being brave and absolutely doing the right thing for yourself and of course you are tired, but it will pass. even if you didn't want it to pass it would, that's how it goes.

estela, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sending good thoughts your way, Zora. Heartbreak is heartbreak and it hurts and sucks, but there is meaning to be found in it, too. I'm a better person and a better partner for having been heartbroken. And were I parenthood-oriented it would be a better parent for it, too!

Hang in there, you'll do great <3

quincie, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Thank you both. I'm old enough to have been through this wringer a few times but you always have more to learn about life.

I'm on holiday with family this week, and although the nights have been rough, when everyone else has gone to bed & I'm afraid to, the days have been glorious. Spring + the Pembrokeshire coast ftw.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Thursday, 7 April 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Thinking of you regularly, Zo. Have lovely vacation days in the sunshine.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, 8 April 2011 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

spring is always good for a pick me up!

Zero pumps, massive boner (thebingo), Friday, 8 April 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

And so it came to pass. Officially hello thread.

ljubljana, Sunday, 24 April 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

sorry man

mookieproof, Sunday, 24 April 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

We got on like a house on fire and had a great time together. Unfortunately I loved him to bits and he confirmed today he didn't feel the same way.

We were supposed to go to NYC this weekend and didn't as he'd put his back out. I had thought that trip would get us closer. I have this awful feeling that if we had gone things would have changed, even though I know that's ridiculous. It's not *quite* ridiculous, but why not is too long and exhausting to explain at the moment.

ljubljana, Sunday, 24 April 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

Oh no..that sucks. I'm really sorry.

VegemiteGrrl, Sunday, 24 April 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

hugs, ljub <3

tehresa, Sunday, 24 April 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

thanks, people

ljubljana, Sunday, 24 April 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

<3 <3

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 24 April 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

sorry ljubljana. went through that with my ex. every thanksgiving, i was wondering which trip would be the one we didn't make it too. happened eventually and i wasn't surprised at all. all i can say is, i'm six months out and it does get better eventually. sorry you're going through this now.

jeff, Sunday, 24 April 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

Hello, ljub! Sorry to hear this. You've been predicting it for kind of a long time, I think? Just...sorry about the whole thing. Sorry you were IN a rel'ship for so long living with the feeling/knowledge that it was going to end like this, sorry that you were right about that. Lyfe.

How are you now?

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 25 April 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

^^^this is always my biggest regret and motivation for post season anger when i realize i stayed months too long. feels like such a waste and its exhausting. feelin you, ljub. i hope the bright side reveals itself to you sooner than later.

calling planet smurf (sunny successor), Monday, 25 April 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks. You're both right about the anger/horror/disbelief at having stayed too long. I found it very hard to read the behaviour of this person and work out how he felt about me - there were contradictory signs. But of course, once you find out for sure and actually ask them how all the pieces fit together, it's blindingly obvious which 'signs' were important and which weren't, and you can't believe you didn't see it more clearly earlier.

Just very, very sad today - this was someone I could easily see myself with for life. Just that terrible feeling of knowing in your gut that you'll never feel this way again. What helps of course is thinking back to some arseholes from my past and remembering that I thought that about them too at some point.

ljubljana, Monday, 25 April 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

Good for you, though, for moving on quickly now that you know. Some people (e.g. me) spend years in relationships like that, because the unknown and the sense of loss is more horrible-seeming.

sarahel, Monday, 25 April 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

I'm sorry that this is happening to you, and we'll be here for you.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 25 April 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

ljub, when you're up for it let me know and i will buy you a drink and lend an ear if you want to talk.

tehresa, Monday, 25 April 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

thanks T! (sorry for the very slow reply - I have been keeping busy aka drinking)

ljubljana, Thursday, 28 April 2011 04:17 (twelve years ago) link

sarahel, I have a great deal of empathy with that position.

ljubljana, Thursday, 28 April 2011 04:25 (twelve years ago) link

I can vouch for keeping busy being good therapy, especially if one can be busy in good company. I spent the weekend at Eastercon and feel about a mile taller as a result of some good old fashioned booze and banter with friends. And a nice hotel pool!

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Thursday, 28 April 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

Very sorry, lj. You are a marevelous lady and I know you will bounce back wonderfully!

quincie, Friday, 29 April 2011 08:51 (twelve years ago) link

Marvelous, even. Damn it is early. I got up to watch your royalty wed!

quincie, Friday, 29 April 2011 08:51 (twelve years ago) link

Ljubljana I meant to say: I agree that you're doing the right thing. I used to think unrequited love was the worst deal ever, but half-requited love is so much worse, because it traps you in the land of could-have-been-almost-happy. I hope the drinking is going well for you - or better yet, that you're finding more and more ways to move through the pain and enjoy life.

(quincie: still think u mad!)

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 29 April 2011 09:22 (twelve years ago) link

thought for just a sec that surfing was LJ

And thusly create the illusion of babby (forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

Could-have-been-almost-happy is exactly right. At the moment it feels like it would be way more than enough and a million times better than the future, so trying not to think about the future.

Thinking about the 'friends' dilemma. I just don't think I'm prepared to *not* stay friends, it would be too much of a waste. But I'm overwhelmed by the thought of dragging this feeling out any longer than it has to last. In some ways I think it's good to see him regularly (like, once every week on a weekday for a drink) for say a month, then taper it off. That way you know they're there, you know you're still friends, but you can dial back the face time.

Pro tips?

ljubljana, Friday, 29 April 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

Burn it down and salt the earth.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think I can bring myself to.

ljubljana, Friday, 29 April 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

From experience it is very hard to be friends with your ex. There's too much emotion involved and it can exacerbate the pain that heartbreak brings. Cliche, but time is a great healer, and you need to look after yourself and adapt to this new part of your life. Ask yourself, do you really think you can see him and be okay? What if he got a new girlfriend? Or started behaving differently from when you were together? Could you honestly be able to handle that?

I am leader of the sheeple (captain rosie), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

I think that's why I want to see him just for a bit (maybe a month) a few times, and then taper it off. I guess during the next month or so he's unlikely to meet someone new and so now is the time to build that foundation for whatever we want later, if anything.

It's not so much that I want to see him all the time - I couldn't handle that at all - I certainly couldn't handle him getting a new girl if I was seeing a lot of him. It's more that I want to make sure we've seen each other a few times, we're ok with each other, we still *like* each other, and then everything is open to our own choices later on about how often we see each other - maybe not often at all, maybe never, maybe twice a year, maybe more.

ljubljana, Friday, 29 April 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

If you can picture yourself being totally cool with it if he brings his new gf down to the pub, you are ready to be friends. Anything else and you're kidding yourself on, imho. But do whatever makes you feel least awful.

Me, I'm finding that contact with the ex just stirs up all the sorrow, and although I miss him fiercely and we still get along really well when we do talk, it kicks me in the gut when I hang up the phone. Overall, I'm happiest when he's farthest from my mind.

xpost, same sentiment as rosie!

Confused Turtle (Zora), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

Try seeing him once and play it by ear?

Confused Turtle (Zora), Friday, 29 April 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

only spend time with him if/when you really need to or want to. there is generally an angry phase that you go through. it is best to avoid him during that time.

sarahel, Friday, 29 April 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, once is probably the way to go and take it from there. I already spoke to him on the phone mid-week (to do that conversation where you ask all the questions you were too stunned to ask when you broke up). It was calm and ok for the most part. But yes, hanging up the phone is hell.

Alternative is to not see him for a few months, then go out for a drink. But what I'm afraid of then is that he'll have moved on and I won't have (enough). Get it over with, kind of thing. I feel like angry phase has already gone. May be kidding myself!

ljubljana, Friday, 29 April 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

when you do see him, do not make it the high point/climax of the day. So early drinks or dinner on a weeknight or something in the afternoon on a weekend. Have something else planned afterward. Something enjoyable and something to look forward to, like drinks/hanging with friends, or going to a show or out dancing, or a delicious meal or drink on your own.

sarahel, Friday, 29 April 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

the concept behind this is that you don't want to feel that after you part ways, you will be going home to clean up cat poop, put away laundry, or finish a project you need to get done for work, and feel pathetic. Instead, you have other fulfilling things to do ... WITHOUT HIM!

sarahel, Friday, 29 April 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

everyone is different, and the following advice is only from my own experience but:

cut all contact now. NOW. email him or call him and let him know that you really look forward to a great friendship in the future, that you think he's great etc. but some time to yourself is what you need first. and then stick to it. no drunk-dialing. no but-what-if-i-changed-x-about-me pleading emails. the sooner you cut off contact, the sooner you can start moving on and the sooner you can reclaim a decent friendship.

when enough time has passed that you at least think you're over him, contact him for a short meet-up. if, at the end of that meet-up, you don't really feel much except a little sentimental/nostalgic, then you're ok. if you feel terrible and sad, cut him off again for another few months. rinse and repeat.

R, you seem like an awesome lady to me - there will be someone else out there.

just1n3, Friday, 29 April 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

counterpoint

I think that's why I want to see him just for a bit (maybe a month) a few times, and then taper it off.

this sounds entirely reasonable, rational and practical if it was an amicable breakup to me

It's not so much that I want to see him all the time - I couldn't handle that at all - I certainly couldn't handle him getting a new girl if I was seeing a lot of him.

and this sounds like you've got a v good perspective on this approach

wicked Nome King, brah (sic), Friday, 29 April 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

like, people will say "but it will hurt when you have seen him and then you are home alone later on!" but fuck it, it will hurt when you DON'T see him and are thus alone THEN and ALSO later on. saying goodbye to things you liked about being with him is a good way to get used to not having those things anymore imo.

and if it does just hurt then you can decide to pull the band-aid off.

wicked Nome King, brah (sic), Friday, 29 April 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

Just1n3, that's a timely reminder on the firmness. I met a friend for a drink last night and she texted me to tell me that my ex was in the bar where she was waiting for me. This is pretty funny as it is a standing joke that he doesn't get out much (although he does hang out occasionally in this particular bar) so people were all 'at least you won't bump into him'. We went elsewhere but I was very tempted to text him with 'lol were you in x bar tonight because the funny thing is...' Didn't.

saying goodbye to things you liked about being with him is a good way to get used to not having those things anymore

Yes, that's kind of the idea, so that feeling doesn't drag out till I see him again months later. And it might do the opposite, and drag it out. In which case it's the Just1n3 plan, which I am going to keep as a very active and ready to go Plan B. I like the 'just nostalgia' criterion.

And... if I don't see him soon I'll be sad because I know he'll be waiting and disappointed that I'm not in touch. I know this isn't my responsibility at all, but I just want to make everything less sad.

ljubljana, Friday, 29 April 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

I know I'm more a lurker than a poster so I really appreciate everyone pitching in.

ljubljana, Friday, 29 April 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

From personal experience I find not being friends till you get eveything out of your system. Let the other person know how much you are hurting and you really can't be a friend till you work it out. At that point be friends.

allmypulp, Friday, 29 April 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

sic makes a great point - i just think that it's easier to be rational about these things in theory, but the reality usually ends up being different.

just1n3, Friday, 29 April 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

OTM

I am leader of the sheeple (captain rosie), Friday, 29 April 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

likely otm. I will give my/sic's way a go but remain very open to Plan B aka Plan Just1n3.

ljubljana, Friday, 29 April 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

Just remember that you won't always be like this, heartbreak is so painful, it will get better, you won't always feel like this. Just do what's right for you, look after yourself and think about what amazing things the future holds for you.

Wish I was good at taking my own advice ;)

I am leader of the sheeple (captain rosie), Friday, 29 April 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

gonna otm some points made here, speaking from experience in the ongoing saga of my own recent breakup:

- if you can stand seeing him with someone else, you're ready to try and rebuild a friendship. my ex and i agreed to keep contact to a minimum. still great to see her, but remembering that she's been seeing someone else is too much
- there's logic, then there's emotion. the logic of 'breakup → friendship' is easy-peasy. any emotion in the way of that is something else entirely and can't be gotten around through rationalization. respect that. keep your distance if shit starts souring.
- patience and perseverance. rebuilding socially and emotionally requires juggling multiple things all at once, on one leg, using the other to balance it all. just do it and get through the day. little victories.

shaane, Saturday, 30 April 2011 04:57 (twelve years ago) link

all otm.

I think it depends what kind of friendship you want, too - regular contact or occasional drink. We don't really share a group of friends so we can control that very easily as it'll be just us seeing one another, probably. Need to think about that, but probably later.

It's a good thing I'm away for a couple of weeks in June.

ljubljana, Saturday, 30 April 2011 12:44 (twelve years ago) link

Its been 12 months but I'm now able to hang out with my most recent ex and not feel sad or weird at all. In fact it was *great* to see him last night and realise we still had a v close friendship that appears to have come out unscathed. Now we can both get back to whinging about our love lives to each other again like we used to before we dated haha.

Concubine Tree (Trayce), Sunday, 1 May 2011 05:35 (twelve years ago) link

But it did take a while - at first I'd feel sad and bummed out any time I saw him.

Concubine Tree (Trayce), Sunday, 1 May 2011 05:36 (twelve years ago) link

Trayce, is that partly to do with having a new bf or did it happen before that?

ljubljana, Sunday, 1 May 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

I am just starting to get along with my first boyfriend on a friends basis & it has been eight years since last we dated.

offee is for losers only, do you not c? (Abbbottt), Sunday, 1 May 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

ljub - actually it is more to do with him no longer having that girlfriend, if I'm really honest, haha! Because she was (part of) the cause of our breakup I couldnt stand to be near her. If he sees someone else now I wont care less. Funny how that works.

Concubine Tree (Trayce), Sunday, 1 May 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link

It's more that I want to make sure we've seen each other a few times, we're ok with each other, we still *like* each other, and then everything is open to our own choices later on about how often we see each other - maybe not often at all, maybe never, maybe twice a year, maybe more.

i think there's a very good point here. i had a situation where we kept in contact briefly, but then it dissipated. months later, we finally reconnected and saw each other, and i was so terrified that i would fall apart afterwords, but i didn't. and that was promising. and what it really boiled down to was that i wanted to maintain the friendship that inspired our original connection, because i genuinely thought he was one of the greatest people i've known. but by the time we reconnected he wasn't really interested in having a friendship, and i'm still sad that i lost that. probably more so than the loss of the relationship. so maybe what i'm saying is, if you can salvage a great friendship, go for it, but make sure he's interested in having that friendship, too.

tehresa, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 04:02 (twelve years ago) link

I think thats the worst thing too, losing a friend more than the relationship. I'm very glad that didnt happen with my last 2 partners, and the ones before that werent really friends before being bfs so it wasnt such a loss, really, after the dust settled. Sad when that happens tho. :(

Trayce, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 08:42 (twelve years ago) link

Excerpted from thehairpin.com because it seemed to me to be basically, constitutionally true and this is exactly what I did even though at the time it seemed recklessly self-destructive but maybe I'm just like that:

You gotta hurt. This is the worst part, but do you really want to get over this thoroughly and move on with your life and not still be talking about this person many years from now? OK. Then you have to go to all of the places where the pain is and feel every single bit of it. You have to seek out the pain like you're playing a videogame where you get a point every time you find and deal with another aspect of your heartbreak. You have to tread and re-tread all the neural pathways and smoke it all out and give voice to all of your deepest fears about your loss and then conquer it by telling a new story about it. The story that's always worked for me is "I was lucky to experience this relationship and I've learned from it, and just because a relationship ends doesn't mean someone failed." Just kidding, that has never worked for anyone, but try it on anyway because hopefully that's how you will actually feel in a few months. Only time works, but it always works. You will get over this person. You are NOT the exception to the rule. Feel the pain until it bores you.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

Feel the pain until it bores you OTM

And thusly create the illusion of babby (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/m01u7.png

gr8080, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link

Excerpted from thehairpin.com because it seemed to me to be basically, constitutionally true and this is exactly what I did even though at the time it seemed recklessly self-destructive but maybe I'm just like that:

i went into full-on self-destructive mode after a breakup years ago. i don't recommend it.

i didn't mind the breakup per se, so much, i guess that was my fault. but it deeply bothered me that i lost her as a friend. i'm not a grudge-holder, so that confused me.

dell (del), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

Self-destructive mode is such an easy answer because it's easy to feel devalued or down on yourself after a breakup. I mean, wallowing in self-pity or slumming it for a bit has its appeal, but you've got to bounce out of that or at least not do anything that you're going to regret in the long term.

mh, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 02:31 (twelve years ago) link

I think that both the 'try and establish a friendship now so that you don't add regrets to your list of painful things' and 'feel the pain, all of it, now' can work together. All too easily, probably. I guess a lot depends on how patient the other party can be with you during the establishing-friendship phase. I will be testing all this out Thursday night.

I also think 'feel the pain until it bores you' is nicely put. I sort of remember that feeling and can't wait for that day. Currently alternating between feeling nothing and feeling in a blind panic that I did the wrong thing and cheated myself out of some great times and a deepening relationship. Sort of hoping this will be disproved Thursday night after some just-got-to-ask-you questioning.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 02:41 (twelve years ago) link

make sure he's interested in having that friendship, too

Yes. As the drama wears off, that's the test.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 02:44 (twelve years ago) link

xxxp no, the self-destructive part was the rooting out of all my insecurities and the places the haertbreak was living, like, "Of course he left you, you lack x quality and y quality, how could you have expected anything else? Don't be ridiculous -- learn your place, feel sorry for yourself for an afternoon, then pick up and resign yourself and let's find something else to do." That kind of talk.

It was sort of cutting out the parts that were throbbing and having a sharper, cleaner pain in their place, but it was pretty hard on me, doing it.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

a toothache is always worse than the pain after a root canal because your tooth has a throbbing infected nerve. once you kill the nerve and remove it (ie have a root canal), the tooth may ache from being messed with so much, but it's not the same inside-your-head pain of an infected tooth.

deez m'uts (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

finding something else to do is key

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

I have an inner Yankee spinster aunt who tells me I'm being boring and self-indulgent before I am actually bored w myself necessarily. She's not very nice but she does get the job done.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

man, the 'friends' thing, i don't even know why people want that. Do women tend to want it more than men? Seems that way ime but i don't know if it's that way generally

It just strikes me as the uberchallenge, when getting out of serious relationship sane and able to hopefully try it all again someday with somebody else should be enough on your plate.

socks & pwns may break my bwns (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

I don't get it either, d. So many of my exes have insisted that we'll be friends afterward and I'm like, ru insane? First of all if they are the ones breaking up with me, that's IT: they don't get to have just the parts of me that they want, THERE IS NO LAUREL BUFFET. They want to be free of their commitment to me? Be free. Be very free. Be so free that you never call me or email me again.

Second is the pain & healing part, I just can't do that while keeping in touch.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

First of all if they are the ones breaking up with me, that's IT: they don't get to have just the parts of me that they want, THERE IS NO LAUREL BUFFET

truth buffet imo

socks & pwns may break my bwns (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

First of all if they are the ones breaking up with me, that's IT: they don't get to have just the parts of me that they want,

Yeah, I pretty much told my ex-bf that verbatim, though I broke up with him after I found out he was cheating and he didn't want to stop seeing the other girl. He's still seeing her. I told him that I couldn't completely forgive him and be close friends with him until he stopped getting with this chick.

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

THERE IS NO LAUREL BUFFET

hahaha, I'd like to imagine you actually saying this at significant break-up moments

Virginia Plain, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

but it's hard to just jettison that history of intimacy, especially if you were with that person for a significant amount of time.

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

not as hard as trying to integrate it into your new roles as people who don't date, again just ime/o

socks & pwns may break my bwns (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

VP, it is my goal to be a person who says that next time!! I'm glad you like it.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

xp - it depends on the relationship -- really, the percentage of time spent doing things together specific to couples might be a major factor vs. percentage of time spent together doing things that friends do.

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

like we probably spent more time together at hardware stores than having sex.

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

oh i am trying so hard to think of more than y'know that one thing that fits that category

socks & pwns may break my bwns (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

we really spent a lot of time at hardware stores!

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

well i spent a lot of time at hardware stores with tony o toole from inishturk in the summer of 96 but y'know he never asked to meet my dad or nothing

socks & pwns may break my bwns (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

his name fits into this really well now i look again

socks & pwns may break my bwns (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

I do not miss the way he insisted on carrying the 50lb bags of drywall mix rather than putting them in a cart like a normal person.

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

oh you want the 'things men do' thread imo?

socks & pwns may break my bwns (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

I do not miss the way he was significantly oblivious to the organizing principles of hardware stores (considering how much time we spent in them), and would take forever to find where the thing we were looking for was kept in the store.

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

Why would you think Walgreen's would carry buss fuses?!!!

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

were with that person for a significant amount of time

I think that's totally otm at least ime but what kind of friends you want to be sort of makes a difference too, I think.

I am still friends with both my boyfriend from HS (dated 3 years) and the guy I dated off and on all through college over ten years later. I think that's been made possible mainly by the fact that we're friends on FB with every couple of months email updates type friends and not the hang out all the time type friends. I don't know if it would have been possible then.

Of course, being in touch can also lead to some fucked up and tricky situations years later. Like, oh I don't know, when one of the aforementioned visits the foreign country in which you now live with a partner and asks you out for friendly drinks during which he decides to propose to you. The evening then sets off a chain of events that result in your life spinning out of control for a while but, hey, at least it'll make for a somewhat interesting story years later and help you realize that he was always sort of an asshole and that you were always better off without him and don't really even care that much about being friends with him in the end.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

if 'Friends' ever did the movie huh

socks & pwns may break my bwns (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah but with one of the male leads being a much much bigger jerk.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

what, then even ross? get out

socks & pwns may break my bwns (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

ha

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

d - "things men do" and "things my ex-bf does because he has a huge martyr complex" overlap, but are not exactly the same.

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

I tried playing the martyr at the end of a relationship once, but even at the time it felt cheap and wrong and I've never done it again.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

xp Walgreens does sell Buss fuses, actually.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link

^best post

jeff, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link

For me, not talking, not 'normalising', the suddenness of someone disappearing, cause more pain than weaning myself off someone gradually and changing my relationship with them. For others, it's vice versa. Both totally valid responses. My own issue is making sure I handle it ok and don't go too far too quickly with expecting a friendship.

Mind you, I'm only talking about people I really cared about. If I've lost all respect for them by the time of the breakup, then I won't want to stay friends (although would much prefer everything to be at least amicable).

Laurel, I also welcome the inner aunt. Usually, better her than people who try to tell you how they can't believe this has happened to you yet again because you are so fabulous, when you feel your lest fabulous ever and just can't help but feel they are lying.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

Clearly my ex-bf needs to move to Florida, because the Walgreen's here do not sell buss fuses.

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link

wth is a buss fuse?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:51 (twelve years ago) link

http://lighting-electrical.org/_cache/Fuses/img/Buss_Fuse_0.jpg

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

Are those the old-style screw-in fuses that someone might have instead of circuit breakers?

mh, Thursday, 5 May 2011 04:34 (twelve years ago) link

Burn it down and salt the earth.

― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, April 29, 2011 10:26 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

this is the best advice imo

Serial Chiller (sunny successor), Friday, 13 May 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

I want an answer to the fuse question.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

it was re friends after iirc also otm

Rev'erendoors (darraghmac), Friday, 13 May 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

so. broke up with the girl 7 or so months ago. currently very much single and miserable - now i see on facebook the ex is seeing some dude. i feel like i lost. wtf. i shouldn't care but i do.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 00:56 (twelve years ago) link

That feeling goes away

it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 14 May 2011 00:57 (twelve years ago) link

but it's ok to feel shitty over it for the time being too iirc

Rev'erendoors (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:00 (twelve years ago) link

it's not like i want her back either. i think i feel like i failed because i'm still single maybe.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

but... you broke up with her?

tehresa, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

yup. i know.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

do you want to be in another relationship right now?

sarahel, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

i'd like to be at this point.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

of some kind.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

seriously, when they're with someone else for the first time after, logic doesn't come into it, you're gonna take a hit

Rev'erendoors (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link

have you been dating?

sarahel, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link

not for a while. went out with a few girls a few months ago. never went anywhere tho.
i've been shot down by a couple of girls i know that i'd liked for a while (years) aswell. so that helps make everything awesome.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

thermo imo what you're feeling is totally normal. but forks otm it goes away.

gr8080, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

i think i feel like i failed because i'm still single maybe.

this is totally the thing and reasonable to feel. but even though it feels that way, it's not a race and you haven't found the right person yet, that's all

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:09 (twelve years ago) link

or "a suitable person" -- i think the idea of "the right person" is kinda unhealthy

sarahel, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:11 (twelve years ago) link

what is the difference?

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:12 (twelve years ago) link

mookie otm...you can feel bad and it fucking sucks, but dont let it be about success/failure. don't do that to yourself.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

right implies one. suitable implies 'workable' imo. i dunno... 'suitable' seems like a cop out to me.

tehresa, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

nah suitable doesn't limit you to looking for a perfect one that prob doesnt exist

Rev'erendoors (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link

right doesn't have to mean perfect. it could mean best.

tehresa, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

"soul mate" is pretty loaded. finding someone "right" sounds perfectly doable.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

unless you're me, obv!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

anyways - you can get something right without getting it perfect.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

re-writing my PoF profile right now.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

The whole soul mate concept is total BS imo.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

some day my princess will come

gr8080, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

lol

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link

right person, right time. just because it is simple doesnt make it easy. it'll come.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link

i'm also worried that, while i wasn't completely happy with her, that she was the best i could do.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 02:41 (twelve years ago) link

oh dude, no. dont do that

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2011 02:42 (twelve years ago) link

eh

There's a little to be said for that tbph

Rev'erendoors (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 May 2011 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

Issue is, are you bummed out because she has moved on, or are you bummed out because you want her back?

One is you needing to focus on your life and be content and the other is because you may have made a mistake splitting up.

I'd like to know why the feeling of getting over a breakup is like bereavement? Is it the same chemical in the brain that we use for coping? If so it sucks.

I am leader of the sheeple (captain rosie), Saturday, 14 May 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link

it fucking sucks.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

It sucks so fucking much.

I am leader of the sheeple (captain rosie), Saturday, 14 May 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

fuck.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

Feeling ya.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Saturday, 14 May 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

It sucks so fucking hard.

It sucks slightly less hard now than it did 3 weeks ago. That doesn't mean it doesn't suck hard now. It just means I'm not trapped under my duvet. But at least something has changed.

ljubljana, Saturday, 14 May 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

i'm over my past exes and have been moving on, had been flirting with this new girl who is just flat out amazing, but yesterday kind of pulled out the "I'm not sure what I want right now" card because of past experiences.

*sigh*. not a death knell I know, but patience is a difficult trait for me in situations like this...however, old dogs must learn new tricks.

starland vocal banned (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 May 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

she did say she liked me too, so it was more like a 'i want this, but just not sure right now' type thing

starland vocal banned (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 May 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

I can hardly imagine dating ever again, but I'm so horribly, physically lonely atm I'm having to remind myself not to scare friends and acqaintances with over-hugging.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Sunday, 15 May 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

i can't speak for everyone but as a friend w/ someoen i've cared about i've never felt overhugging was a possibility, even on the receiving end

starland vocal banned (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 May 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

hugging is the best

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 15 May 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

I miss hugs

hillybilly death worship (absolutely clean glasses), Sunday, 15 May 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

*hug*

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 15 May 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

would hug all this ilx0rs

*hugs*

Confused Turtle (Zora), Sunday, 15 May 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

aw *hugz* guys!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

i'm doing much better today, btw.
got my sorry ass off the couch last night, went out and met/made out with a random cutie!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

that'll do it!

Clay, Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

excellent work!

on thursday i bumped into the ex who was involved with/responsible for my most traumatic relationship experience. first time i'd seen her in six years but turns out i am not totally over her.

we spoke (eventually, after a series of acknowledging glances) and ended up exchanging phone numbers. not at all sure how i feel about any of this.

DISPLAY NAMING RIGHTS (Upt0eleven), Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

if all you've done is exchange phone numbers, you haven't done anything you can't take back yet. Though it's easy for old feelings to resurface for an old flame, that's mostly because memories often get sanitized the farther away you get from them. I had a relationship that was mostly mediocre yet I can only remember the positive stuff now because that's all I chose to remember, yet I'm sure it'd come flying back if I dated her again.

Obv only you know yourself and far be it from me to give advice here, but if it were me, and this person caused my most traumatic relationship experience, the only way I'd even look in their direction is if I had some kind if incontrovertible proof that she wasn't the same person she was six years ago, and generally with people, that tends to be the exception rather than the norm.

if the little voice in your head expresses concern, maybe it's time to take a step back...

starland vocal banned (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

absent specifics i think you're pretty much spot on. i don't think she's changed but i'm hoping i have, at least enough to handle her company for a little longer without falling down the rabbit hole again. i don't think there's any danger of us getting back together but unfortunately talking to her at this gig wasn't enough to provide the resolution that is still missing. she was my "first" in a number of ways and contributed significantly (for better or worse) to any definition my personality achieved in my early twenties.

that said, i still think it's 50-50 whether meeting her again would make any difference. i would have regretted not approaching her at all, but not using her phone number feels like a different thing, and not quite so essential.

DISPLAY NAMING RIGHTS (Upt0eleven), Sunday, 15 May 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

you are otm imo

Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 May 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

i'm hoping i have, at least enough to handle her company for a little longer without falling down the rabbit hole again

i think this is the most important part - knowing that you're ready to have that experience no matter the outcome.

tehresa, Sunday, 15 May 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

i still have the phone number of my first 'real' breakup (sounds a lot like yours tbh from what you've said above) in my head. i've used it once in 6 years, to congratulate her on her wedding in january.

Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 May 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

^ that's heavy shit, man

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 15 May 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

knowing that you're ready to have that experience no matter the outcome.

― tehresa, Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:21 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

^^ reminding yourself when it gets bumpy that "this is exactly what i signed up for"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 15 May 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

xp ah, for a day or two it was, but i've been quite happy with ms mac for eh going on 6 years now so it's not an issue

Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 May 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

it happens. and then you end up getting together with them after they get divorced...

tehresa, Sunday, 15 May 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

well maybe not you. hah.
and ftr i never congratulated him on his wedding.

tehresa, Sunday, 15 May 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

lol i cant see it but hold the thought

Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 May 2011 23:51 (twelve years ago) link

horribly, physically lonely

^^^^^

ljubljana, Monday, 16 May 2011 02:41 (twelve years ago) link

I don't have a solution to that that you couldn't figure out for yourself: go find a huggy friend, pet a dog, etc. But you're not alone even when it feels like you are.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

^^^ Very very otm. I think things are gonna get a big bumpy but I think I'm better equipped to deal with it this time round. Thanks for kind thoughts folks.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 16 May 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, puppy or human love are really important in the situations immediately upthread...

i think i've talk about it before, but i've remained friends with my most recent ex. in fact, we're really incredibly tight— we go to movies together, go to the gym together, walk his dog, make dinner. it's like we're husbands who don't have sex. (the sex was amazing, and sometimes i mourn its loss, but oh well).

tbph, it has become infinitely easier since i stopped being mopey and shitty and just started going for it again. now i'm seeing an awesome person (the ex and this person and i all drank coffee together at a cafe yesterday) and i couldn't be happier with the direction either relationship is going.

whenever the vein was to throb (the table is the table), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link

went out with one guy for about 3 months (in my 20s)

went out with one guy for about 3 months (in my 30s)

p much everything else I can remember was 4 dates or less.

not even looking the last couple years.

so, there are other ways to live.

resistance does not require a firearm (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

I flew solo pretty much for a long time before I married...but I was never one who "needed" a relationship. Maybe it was self-esteem or whatever, but I do believe in being comfortable with yourself, being okay with yr own company before you can be good company to anyone else.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link

OTM!

tehresa, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link

i think i'd be pretty good at not being in a relationship, but it's just never been the right time

Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

so hard to not find the right person

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:00 (twelve years ago) link

my current one almost makes me wish i'd never been in one before. maybe then i wouldn't be so neurotic

imagine arse (electricsound), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

I went six years between relationships once. and yea, i can definitely do the single thing, it can be fun doing whatever I want whenever I want, and I'm never unhappy. It's just...when I am with someone, it's just usually...better.

starland vocal banned (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:09 (twelve years ago) link

i have a bad habit of needing somebody. need to do something about that, probably.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 06:06 (twelve years ago) link

is the habit bad because of who you end up with or ... ?

sarahel, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 06:46 (twelve years ago) link

evolution baby

shaane, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 06:48 (twelve years ago) link

I have a bad habit of believing people when they say things, which I shd also do something about, but since I have absolutely zero instincts about liars, I'm not rly sure how to even begin. Except totally ignore the situation by not approaching or encouraging anyone at all, so no change there, really.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

I flew solo pretty much for a long time before I married...but I was never one who "needed" a relationship. Maybe it was self-esteem or whatever, but I do believe in being comfortable with yourself, being okay with yr own company before you can be good company to anyone else.

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:24 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Well, I actively loathe and despise myself, and I've managed to be in a relationship for five years so far. So... nah, not OTM.

emil.y, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

is the habit bad because of who you end up with or ... ?

― sarahel, Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:46 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

bad habit because i don't know how to be by myself--i've either been in a relationship or looking to get into one for basically my whole adult life.

bad habit.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

eh like anything else it's about the results? If you're in bad relationships all the time it's a bad habit, sure

Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

haha well

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

i was never in relationships that much or for very long before this last one, and i was quite good at being by myself.

i seem rather less good at it now.

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

it gets easier. 1 1/2 years out.

sarahel, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

my current one almost makes me wish i'd never been in one before. maybe then i wouldn't be so neurotic

I was neurotic as hell and horrible to my husband and myself precisely because I'd never been in a relationship before. I was Psycho Girlfriend From Hell because I had absolutely no idea how a relationship worked or how to act in one.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

Well, I actively loathe and despise myself, and I've managed to be in a relationship for five years

otoh, I generally like myself but find that available men do not approach that standard.

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

remember that Usher joint "U Got It Bad"? ya I'm there right now.

las bolas de sudor (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 03:04 (twelve years ago) link

things are ok in my neck of the woods these days...i stress OK.

Crooked Lust (thebingo), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

I forgot how much give and take there is in flirting. like it's fun and exciting, but sometimes also feels like hard work!

las bolas de sudor (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

Talked to him yesterday, 3rd time in a month. Totally feeling Laurel's 'no buffet' right now yet know I'd be more crazy if we had no contact. Can't shake the feeling of a huge misunderstanding, ridiculously.

It's been very useful to be crazy busy since this happened, very distracting, but it means that as soon as I stop running around I'm experiencing the kind of intense feelings I think I'd otherwise have gone through in the first two weeks.

ljubljana, Thursday, 26 May 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think you can get away without having the *feelings* at some stage before it's all done

The 'misunderstanding' bit, yeah that's otm- kind of understandable in any fairly amicable breakup, i guess? You've been with someone, it was mostly good if not-quite (obv varies from situation to situation), you've both invested a lot. Surely if we do 'x' it'll work?

♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 May 2011 08:44 (twelve years ago) link

Very otm. There are several Xs in this case that I can't get off my mind, some more proximate than others.

ljubljana, Thursday, 26 May 2011 10:47 (twelve years ago) link

my ex-ex, who I struggled the most to get over, has a new beau. He's a nice guy, a bit older than me. I'm actually happy for her...glad to see I finally closed the final piece of that one out.

Still, I'm really still bumming over the latest relationship that wasn't, I still can't figure out why we got so close and then she pulled away...guess it's frustrating cuz it's become a running trend over the last 5 years for me. I should just let it go, but it's frustrating...so this weekend I'm doing what I can to avoid contact w/ her and just spending time with other friends. need some time away from it.

red dead prez redemption (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 June 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

That sounds like the best way to go in this situation.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 3 June 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

is 'neanderthal' the newest incarnation of 'san te,' or a different guy dealing with an ex-ex? (congrats on managing to get over her either way!)

and you are a part of everything and everything is like melting (ytth), Saturday, 4 June 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

It's San Te

red dead prez redemption (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 June 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

Unsolicited update to a few weeks ago.

I wasn't deliberately waiting, especially, but I didn't end up contacting her until I got home from my holiday last week. I found myself thinking about her a lot while I was away and just couldn't leave it as it was. I didn't say anything much in the text, just that I was glad to bump into her and would she like to come with me to a gig on Tuesday. She hasn't replied.

Ordinarily I am an advocate of "read nothing into nothing" - she could be away, lost her phone etc etc - but, even if it dates back several years, she's got form. I would have been okay if she'd just said "no, it's best that we don't go back to this" (probably) but this sense that she's again decided to ignore me completely is far more hurtful than I could have anticipated. It was she who suggested another meeting not the way round, and she suggested exchanging numbers. I don't want to try her again, I don't want to ask her if she really is ignoring me because there is no way that question can be read without making me look pathetic, but this feels unsustainable and I'm not really sure what else to do.

Sorry for the dump, just very ugh right now.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 5 June 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

my personal opinion, based on experience, is to try to be more direct with these invites. texts are problematic for the reasons described above, you have no idea whether it is indeed that she is ignoring you, or other reasons. If you then call her on it and you're wrong, you create an awkward scenario. best thing to do is to send a follow-up text and say "I didn't see a reply to my request, just wanted to know if you got it and if you were going to join me", maybe even say 'so i can plan ahead'. If she was ignoring you, she'll either ignore you again, or send a more direct message, which while it will hurt, is better than not knowing. If she wasn't ignoring you, she'll probably just give a strange answer.

Being ignored is the greatest of agonies for me too. And it is complete avoidance bullshit, but do know that it's just how many people in this day and age have chosen to handle problems, and that it doesn't reflect on you. If that's what it does turn out to be, it's best to leave things as is and move on. It'll hurt, but it'll hurt less than if you keep trying.

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 June 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

some people are just flaky and things slip their minds. while you may like to think that if you were truly important to the person in question - that you would be an exception to their flakiness - but sometimes it just doesn't work that way.

In terms of your next move, just a simple, hey, did you want to go to this gig on Tuesday message or call would be totally fine. Maybe add something brief about timing, transportation, food/beverage plans, so that it looks more natural.

sarahel, Sunday, 5 June 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

so my ex got a job and got an apartment about five blocks away from me.
today while i was at work she came by and removed (most of) the shit that was hers (this was prearranged and done with total propriety)

now the rooms echo unpleasantly

mookieproof, Monday, 6 June 2011 05:34 (twelve years ago) link

get more stuff!

sarahel, Monday, 6 June 2011 05:43 (twelve years ago) link

xpost (hugs)

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 June 2011 05:55 (twelve years ago) link

can't afford/have no desire for more stuff

i do need a roommate, though, for which i also have no desire

i have to share kitty now too (which is fair, but sad)

mookieproof, Monday, 6 June 2011 06:09 (twelve years ago) link

oh man. sharing the cat? that kinda sucks, mook.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 June 2011 06:42 (twelve years ago) link

it can be really hard to get used to having someone else in your space when you're used to living alone ... or after living with a long-term partner. Just don't get a roommate that reminds you of your ex.

sarahel, Monday, 6 June 2011 07:07 (twelve years ago) link

tbh I don't really think sharing kitty is fair

tehresa, Monday, 6 June 2011 12:38 (twelve years ago) link

In terms of your next move, just a simple, hey, did you want to go to this gig on Tuesday message or call would be totally fine.

Yeah, so I did, essentially, this. I really hope you're right and rationally I know I should err on the side of a non-conspiratorial explanation for her silence but I just don't trust her. Which is in itself probably/potentially a whole different thing.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 6 June 2011 12:48 (twelve years ago) link

oh man. sharing the cat? that kinda sucks, mook.

Doesn't sound all that fair to the cat, either.

My sympathies, MP.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 6 June 2011 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

yeah fuck sharing of cats after relationship is over. dogs are more adaptable, imo, but cats? fuck no.

whenever the vein was to throb (the table is the table), Monday, 6 June 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

Hang in there, mooks! Things will get better, I promise. </onewhoknows>

quincie, Monday, 6 June 2011 23:51 (twelve years ago) link

I wish that the Craigslist fairy sends you a fantastically great roommate who turns out to be one of those roommates that actually turns into a friend, and (slightly less realistically) I wish that your ex spots a kitten in great danger, rescues it and asks you to take on the other cat full-time.

ljubljana, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 03:16 (twelve years ago) link

aww thx dudes

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 03:21 (twelve years ago) link

hang in there, mookie

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 04:37 (twelve years ago) link

mookie, come hang with me in the park and i will treat you like a vip

When Zeester Met Koffie (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 04:50 (twelve years ago) link

let's pray for a football season to come & put an end to all this sadness

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 04:54 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

so yeah i posted in the wrong thread last night in a mess, but my wife and i are done. im moving out tomorrow. im sad.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Saturday, 6 August 2011 12:00 (twelve years ago) link

i posted in that other thread, but it bears repeating-- i'm really sorry that you are going through something that rough. i wish the best for you, and i hope you take good care of yourself. i've never been married or had a family, but breakups in general even uh, divorced (sorry!) from that context are difficult enough.

dell (del), Saturday, 6 August 2011 13:54 (twelve years ago) link

Chris....fuck, I am so sorry. (hug)

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 August 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

Chris, I'm so sorry.

ljubljana, Saturday, 6 August 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

So sorry to hear. Reassurances are probably not so helpful a this point, but it you *will* be OK and it *will* get better and life *does* go on in a positive way. People told me this when I got divorced, and damn if they weren't right. Take care.

quincie, Saturday, 6 August 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, fuck, Chris. I knew this was coming. We'll be here for you for whatever happens.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 6 August 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link

sorry dude. i know the feeling.

I'm a nerd and nerdy things happened (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 7 August 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

i'm sorry chris. kia kaha my friends.

estela, Sunday, 7 August 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

Moved my stuff out yesterday. That sucked. My wife and I are on really good terms and honestly i feel much better. We will much better friends than husband and wife.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Monday, 8 August 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

*comfort*

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link

Is it too early to ask how the kid situation is going to work out between you? I remember you talking about that a while back. But please: no need to answer if it's too raw to talk about yet.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 01:51 (twelve years ago) link

We are going to do every tues and Wednesday with me and every other weekend which is standard practice. Had him last night and he had a blast. I got him a toy story bed and he almost shit. It's actually really nice to be able to focus all my energy on him and not have to worry about dividing it. Plus it will be nice to recharge when he is with his mother. All in all im doing good

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

I'm glad for that, Chris. Just sorry that you have to go through it all. <3

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

Stay strong, Chris. Hope things work out for the best for you and your little one.

jon/via/chia/pet 2.0 (kkvgz), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

hot damn i never got no toy story bed

Brb gonna go riot

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I'm not as upset as I thought I would be. It's been a longtime coming and best that it happened now on good terms than hating one another on bad terms.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

of course all the music in the world sucks ass right now

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

<3 homie

markers, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

Tuvan throat singing, perhaps? xpost

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 11 August 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link

yo

<3

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 11 August 2011 05:45 (twelve years ago) link

Well yesterday I got a text that wasn't intended for me by mistake. For another guy. She claims it was a joke and she is flirting. She can go fuck herself

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Saturday, 13 August 2011 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

:( chris

generous loller at dollies (sic), Saturday, 13 August 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck, man. Sorry.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

oh god, that is awful. :(

tehresa, Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, fuck that, seriously.

ljubljana, Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

Oh dude :(

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

That really sucks, dude.

Turns out I need a tiny bit of this thread, if there is some to spare. thx

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

oh no :(

tehresa, Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

my situation is as nothing compared to chris's. just feeling it a bit at the moment.

Upt0eleven, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

sorry guys.

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

Plenty of room here, grab a cushion or whatever.

I'm trying to pick out a sperm donor at the moment, and it's really shit.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Saturday, 13 August 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

How much info do they give you?

ljubljana, Sunday, 14 August 2011 01:52 (twelve years ago) link

It's actually really nice to be able to focus all my energy on him and not have to worry about dividing it. Plus it will be nice to recharge when he is with his mother. All in all im doing good.

I'm sorry about everything, man, but since this is where you are now: this is exactly what my divorced female friend says about being with her kids, too. They split custody 50/50 and the 3.5 days when she doesn't have her sons, she has a whole other independent life, and when she DOES have them, she has ONLY them, and not a spouse she also has to take care of.

I hope the situation continues to be rewarding for you. Your little guy will surely appreciate your improved friendship w your wife! And probably so will you.

Ljubljana, it depends. They give you very little info at the London Sperm Bank, more with some of the donors at the Danish one (Cryos dk) but in the context of this thread it's shit b/c it makes me really angry with my ex that I'm having to do this.

I might start another thread about the donor insemination thing.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Monday, 15 August 2011 07:40 (twelve years ago) link

Ah, got it - of course, I was being obtuse, sorry. I hope there are at least some good people there who keep the whole experience positive, and good friends around to mull over the whole experience with. I'd be interested to read that other thread.

ljubljana, Monday, 15 August 2011 11:35 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah i had a great weekend with my son. Honestly, the hardest part is not seeing him daily. Her, i could really care two shits less about at this point. Yes I was with her 16 years and there are some great times in there, but man the last two have been hell. Oh and she told me she sent that text to me to see my reaction. what a manipulative bitch. just need to keep my head up and be friendly because i dont want this to get ugly for my son.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Monday, 15 August 2011 13:04 (twelve years ago) link

I'm trying to pick out a sperm donor at the moment, and it's really shit. ..... They give you very little info at the London Sperm Bank, more with some of the donors at the Danish one (Cryos dk) but in the context of this thread it's shit b/c it makes me really angry with my ex that I'm having to do this.

I might start another thread about the donor insemination thing.

One of my friends has been going through this for years and I have to say there may not be a field of medicine where there's so much conflicting information floating around. "Expert" physicians are often experts at only one or two aspects of infertility; books about it rarely run through all the choices (medical, legal, financial, and emotional) and so many decisions have to be made quickly to fit preordained time schedules. It's worse in the US since your health insurance (if you have any at all) rarely covers all but the most basic procedures and testing. My friend went through 2 rounds of IVF which were expensive and later learned to be irrelevant since further testing showed it was likely a male factor issue. Then they tried a newer, more expensive and invasive procedure, not ZIFT or GIFT but some other four-letter acronym I can't recall; they basically extract a single sperm and fertilise the egg in the lab, then insert. This has a high rate of success, but it didn't take, and was the most expensive procedure of all. Several years and life savings washed away and still no baby. It's at that point they decided to go the donor route. Even that presents all sorts of choices, and again, this couple went through seemingly all of them before settling on a mutual friend to be a donor. This, she says, was the most emotionally wrenching aspect of the whole ordeal - how do you tactfully ask a longtime friend if he'd be willing to be your sperm donor? Months went by before she worked up the courage to ask. While this was at least free, and means the baby's biological dad won't be a stranger, it's not as effective as what the sperm banks use, since they dispose all but the top 5% of sperm with best motility and such. Anyway, 3 months of this and still no pregnancy.

This must be excruciating....

Lee626, Monday, 15 August 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

Oh and she told me she sent that text to me to see my reaction.

holy fuck

what a manipulative bitch.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 15 August 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

I am so relieved to be out of that toxic woman's reach. I can finally be myself.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Monday, 15 August 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

Do you ever get in the car, turn up your music and just drive around going "WOOOOO!" and launching down the entrance ramp to the freeway? I think I spent a while doing that after getting out of a shitastic relationship. Recommend it.

mh, Monday, 15 August 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

YES

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 15 August 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

xxposts: Chris, dude...that whole text thing. WTF. I hope you're not getting tired of me saying "I'm sorry" :/

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 August 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

nah im cool with the sorrys. She is nuts. I just finally started to listen to some music again today, i made a "I gave her my heart, she gave me a pen" spotify playlist and its helping. Im also glad that her and I are back at our respective jobs. stops her from pestering me.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Monday, 15 August 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

I'm sorry Chris. I'm glad you've got that practical / distance thing going on. It does sound like it had gotten toxic. Here's to a happy future for you and your kid.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Monday, 15 August 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

I might start another thread about the donor insemination thing.

― Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

would bookmark

 (gr8080), Monday, 15 August 2011 23:39 (twelve years ago) link

vaguely considered (not really) a poll of potential ilx0r donors

but is the world ready for a pi-reciting small child?

mookieproof, Monday, 15 August 2011 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

pi-reviewing more likely tbh

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 15 August 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link

And pie-bringing.

^^^i am the world is def. ready for this

mookieproof, Monday, 15 August 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

Oh and she told me she sent that text to me to see my reaction.

This still sounds like backpedalling to me, tbh (as in, yr initial reading was the correct one). Either way, yuck.

Rameses Street (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:00 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah neither option really restores yr faith in humanity. Bummertown usa.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 02:39 (twelve years ago) link

Single friend from work just told me she is getting her eggs harvested this week. In the US the process seems to be faster than in the UK. Her chances are slim due to some physical problems, but she's giving it a go.

ljubljana, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

well i got word from a friend of hers that she did send that text to me to gauge a reaction from me in order to have something to use against me in court in case it got ugly. since i have some crap on her....she is crazy

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link

what drama! is this a lifetime movie? who does stuff like that?!

it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 13:23 (twelve years ago) link

someone who is fucking nuts.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 13:32 (twelve years ago) link

Im also concerned she is mentally ill again.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 13:32 (twelve years ago) link

^^^

I'm sorry you are met with such insane and hurtful actions, bingo. All the best.

xp

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, sorry for using the word "insane" in that context :-/ It was an x-post.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

its ok! three years ago her doctor told her she is possibly bi-polar....i think she is in a manic phase right now.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

Oh jeez. I mean, the context at least helps it make a *little* more sense but using it against you in court, and she's maybe bipolar? Unf. Holy shit dude. More hugs. And sorrys. And <3

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 06:42 (twelve years ago) link

Ach, Chris :( I really hope you guys dont end up in a mess *hugs*

Rameses Street (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 06:47 (twelve years ago) link

hi guys i just broke up with someone :-\

 (gr8080), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 08:40 (twelve years ago) link

bingo, my wife's certifiably bipolar* and those manic phases are real doozies and she loves me to death. The thought of having to go through that with someone who actively wished you ill...well, it's frightening the amount of harm I imagine she'd be capable of. I'm sorry. Hang in there.

You hang in there too, gr8080.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 08:50 (twelve years ago) link

It's ok, gr80. There are many fish in the sea, perhaps some on ilx!

* adds gr8080 and "tuomas tuomas" to possible love connections list

mh, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 13:39 (twelve years ago) link

<3 <3 <3 gr880

through being dave cool (markers), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

gr8080, rather

through being dave cool (markers), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

broke up with someone i wasn't in a relationship with. that is always fun.

jeff, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

feeling u, sir. <3

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

so i had to have her section 12 yesterday afternoon, she left work and was waiting in front of a church (it was her b-day) for Jake Ryan. I AM TOTALLY SERIOUS. Called the police and they went and transported her to the hospital. Needless to say, i dont need this right now and her parents are dealing with her. I have my son and we are doing great. I searched high and low last night to find a reason to get back with her and i found none. But i will give her all the time she needs to get well and then move on with our mess. But for now, im staying out of it.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

kkvgz, she has done enough harm to me over the past three years like i said, i am through.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

she left work and was waiting in front of a church (it was her b-day) for Jake Ryan. I AM TOTALLY SERIOUS

O_O

Was she wearing a bridesmaid's dress? Wait - she really thought he was coming?

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

good god.

Yeah, uh, stay away if you can and give her some time to get mentally on-track and then cordially deal with it the best you can.

mh, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

what

jeff, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

broke up with someone i wasn't in a relationship with. that is always fun.

― jeff, Wednesday, August 17, 2011 6:57 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

what

― jeff, Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:36 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

jeff basically doing my posting itt for today for me

 (gr8080), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

Erica she had been calling herself Sam all day. And she still thinks he's coming.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

Holy shit.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

:[ That's just . . . damn.

I'm so sorry you're going through all this but really glad you get to focus on your son right now.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

Sounds like she's taking a break from reality. Hope she feels better soon and with some care/medication.

Meanwhile, you might see what can be done about amending that custody agreement?

it's not that print journalists don't have a sense of humour, it's just (Laurel), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

too weird

(hi gr8080)

jeff, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 23:40 (twelve years ago) link

Oh Chris. Jesus.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 23:59 (twelve years ago) link

oh yeah, i will get full custody. she has been calling me nonstop from the hospital too.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

sorry you're going through this man

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:29 (twelve years ago) link

thanks guys. if she calls me one more time and tells me to contact her ex-boyfriend from 20 years ago, im gonna scream at her.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Thursday, 18 August 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe you should try to get the hospital to cut off her phone access or, at least, block off your number. I'm bipolar too, but not as seriously affected as she is, thank God. I'm really, really that you and your son have to go through this.

(And here's my sympathies for you, too, GR8080.)

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 18 August 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

maybe stop answering?

tehresa, Thursday, 18 August 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

The number comes up as blocked. as does my mothers and my bosses...i told them to leave a message and i'll call back. I called the hospital and asked to make sure she does not call me and they refused.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Friday, 19 August 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

God forbid that they be helpful in any way. Especially in her condition. Jesus. Are you just raaaghh hulk smash? I mean, how are you faring?

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 August 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

im holding up really well. i mean i know she is ill and take all her delusions with a grain of salt and laugh about them afterwards. This morning she called and was waiting for her twin.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Friday, 19 August 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

do you have any legal obligation to help her?

sarahel, Friday, 19 August 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

to be fair i dont think you're allowed to forbid patients phone calls

obi wan jacoby (roxymuzak), Friday, 19 August 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

it took me a while to process these latest developments, so i cannot imagine how you are dealing with this, chris

best of luck to you

homosexual II, Friday, 19 August 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

Zero obligation to help her. I haven't even seen her and will not.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

Do you have a decent rapport with her parents?

mh, Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

Yes very much so.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Monday, 22 August 2011 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

well she is out of the psych ward and feeling better. whew. of course she is all sweet to me. too bad girl.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

how long does it take to get over a breakup if it's been two years and you're still not really over it?

wrestlingisreal420 (crüt), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

i never really get over a breakup until i meet someone else who has the potential to fill the hole the other person left.

Clay, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 02:37 (twelve years ago) link

fnarr

the men who glare at stoats (sic), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 02:44 (twelve years ago) link

get lots of pets and pet them a lot.

bene_gesserit, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

I would say...if it's been two years, The braek-up grief has become a stand-in for something else.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 02:49 (twelve years ago) link

damn, i almost forgot we had our break-ups at the same time.

sarahel, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 03:00 (twelve years ago) link

I would say...if it's been two years, The braek-up grief has become a stand-in for something else.

i'd second this... the worst and most hauntng break-up i ever had was around the time my dad died, and i can't help but think my inability to get over the latter aggravated my inability to get over the former, and that in my head the two blurred into each other, and my extended period of mourning the break-up was my way of dealing with having to mourn the much greater loss of my dad.

The doctor smiled, realizing that he had made his point. (stevie), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 07:37 (twelve years ago) link

^^^^^^^^

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 09:31 (twelve years ago) link

well the break-up grief has always been partially a stand-in for my anxieties about myself + my personal issues that led to the breakup but I figured that was a given

wrestlingisreal420 (crüt), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 09:53 (twelve years ago) link

'getting over' can be hard to define, though. I was probably still 'getting over' an ex when I started dating ms mac 6 years ago, ifkwim?

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:24 (twelve years ago) link

crut, I went through a break-up back in 2001 that I didn't really get over for a few years. A large part of it probably was personal insecurities and anxieties and them, but a lot of it truly was just the loss of the emotional bonds and investments that I felt between me and her. I still thought about her, missed her, would have to say, leave a bar if someone came in who looked too much like her.

So like, even though I wish my life had been different during that time (I was 23-26 or so, so by all means I should have been having a lot more fun and meeting more people), to some extent I have respect for the grief process I went through.

One thing that I did, and ymmv so it's not "advice" or anything, was to put myself out there and start dating again. Got a steady girlfriend. And I still wasn't over her for a couple years - I know I wasn't - but maybe it helped.

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 12:33 (twelve years ago) link

i did a two year recovery once. There's eventual light at the end of that tunnel; some of it may be more about personal growth than that person. In any case, it was for me.

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:15 (twelve years ago) link

That seems like kind of a bad deal for the new steady girlfriend, in this case (or boyfriend, if it were flipped), but I guess it worked out for Mac and Mrs Mac, so...

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

Date again wouldn't NEC be my advice, mostly because I haven't lived that path so I can't wholeheartedly advise it. But if fear/reluctance w/r/t dating is presenting some kind of barrier to meeting someone else, then by all means, just go out and do it.

Totally comf recommending personal growth, otoh. You should probably get your own house in order before using someone else as a...I was going to say "crutch" but that's ungracious. Remedy?

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

woaah, easy on the mrs talk

I think as long as you're not 'fleeing' into another relationship- and i acknowledge this can be a thing- then it's ok not to be completely over a serious ex- again, for a given ymmv value on 'over' or, indeed, 'serious' or 'ex'

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

Oh god, sorry! Thought Ms in my head, fingers were faster.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

let your fingers do the walking... down the aisle?

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

Eh I read somewhere in some novel, a woman recommending that her daughter never stay with the first guy she dated after a breakup, because that first guy was like the greasy pancake that soaks up the grease from the grill so the other ones can come out right.

This is obv gross and over-labored as a metaphor but I think the whole concept is shitty to people.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

Using someone else as a crotch, surely Laurel?

I wouldn't recommend seeking out another relationship either, to be honest. It is perfectly possible to go into a good long-term relationship that began while you were still not quite over an ex, but that's different to advice saying 'get yrself a girlfriend, stat! It'll make everything better'.

emil.y, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

posted this itt already, but my ex got married this year and the pic caught me by surprise (fuckin local papers) and i def had a weird day or two, but... that's ok imo. texted her congrats, anonymously abused him on twitter, so over it baby.

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link

i am grateful to another relationship for not allowing me to flee into it. god knows i've tried.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

emil.y- agreed, totally- just saying that 'new relationship != cure', but also that 'not quite 100% tiggerish about it != don't consider dating'

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

Totally see where laurel is coming from, and would have otm'd that advice in the past, but: my husband was kinda emotionally wrecked from his last relationship when we met, as well as having some other stuff to deal with; sage advice would have been to work on himself before getting involved with me, but in reality it was meeting me that helped mend him in a lot of ways (lol braggin).

if we all waited till we were emotionally healthy before dating someone we would be single a really long time! You just need to meet the person who will support you and understand you and be willing to love you unconditionally.

just1n3, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

lol that is crazy braggin

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

'Unconditional love' is such balls, though, sorry. There are always conditions. I mean, what if I killed your family? What if my brain got transplanted into the body of a dog?

emil.y, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

but that's different to advice saying 'get yrself a girlfriend, stat! It'll make everything better'.

Didn't think I was saying this, exactly. But having someone to go through personal growth with can be better than woodshedding it sometimes. Also learning about and developing different styles and habits and behaviors to a relationship helped me put my old deal in perspective, even though I wasn't 100% into the new relationship.

I don't really feel like I was being unfair to the new woman either. I mean, we did care about each other and have good times together and all. I wasn't all like, "yo bitch, fuck me til I get over my shit. cool, I'm done. peace."

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

^posts you instantly regret making.

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

strange, that worked brilliantly for me, what a woild!

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

Also learning about and developing different styles and habits and behaviors to a relationship helped me put my old deal in perspective

Right, this part makes sense to me! How else are you supposed to learn HOW to be in a relationship but to be in one? Totally fair, imo.

Guess I just mistrust resting your personal work on the condition of having someone to do it "with." Or "for." Or someone to support you while you do it, or whatever.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

Gee, emily, I guess I should have added ” unconditional based the terms of our agreed reality” or something

just1n3, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, that's fair. I mean, that certainly isn't how my 24-year-old self was working things out in his head. It was less about consciously putting in personal work than thinking optimistically about an individual - over the chorus of emotional keening that was still going on in my head over my previous girlfriend - and investing some faith in them and partnering up. I wasn't really into self-analysis or conscious personal improvement at the time.

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

xp"

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

I admit my examples were extreme, but everyone has a limit. It might be 'maintain a healthy sex life', 'move halfway across the world so I can live my dream of running an emu farm', 'not cheat', 'not change your political views', 'not find/lose religious beliefs', 'stay looking like the 20-year old version of you', 'not change your mind (for/against) about having children', 'not start a blood feud with my siblings', 'not become a drug addict'... I could go on. Obviously not everyone will react to such things in the same way, but everyone has their own limit.

emil.y, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

I'm gettin' pretty chary about the "unconditional love" part in my old age, tbh. For years I've felt like I could handle the "other stuff" if someone that *I* found unconditionally loveable would just make me the A++ #1 most important thing in his life and love me forever. It would give me...the newfound self-esteem? promise of safety? lift the threat of loneliness? who knows...that I thought I needed to be a functional "normal" person.

I don't think that anymore. Also have watched a TON of my friends decide that their long-term relationships or marriages weren't going to work anymore.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

Or, I should say, not work well enough for them to not resent the limitations the other person was putting on them.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

Unconditional to me obv doesn't mean "I will cover for your murder."

To back up Justine, to me it means when money is tight, when your health is at it's worst, when you are crabby & haven't slept, when you crash the car, when you've got horrible gastro & are going at both ends, that I will still be there beside you, that things would have to get pretty fucking hard to throw in the towel. It's not a guarantee. We don't shake on it. It's something I want to do, am compelled to do because I receive the same in return.

Whether you sign on for that depends on the relationship, or you, I guess. But as a concept it doesn't seem that ridiculous.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think I could keep going with a car-crasher.

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

when money is tight, when your health is at it's worst, when you are crabby & haven't slept, when you crash the car, when you've got horrible gastro & are going at both ends, that I will still be there beside you

That's just being part of a partnership. Obviously some people might leave, others wouldn't, but those things are fairly basic.

things would have to get pretty fucking hard to throw in the towel.

Then it's not unconditional and you're using the word wrong.

If you think about 'unconditional love' as it was originally used, as in parental/familial unconditional love, then you will see that it was meant to mean that, while they might not cover for your murder, they would still love you if you were a murderer. Of course, familial unconditional love is balls, too, but the social expectations and ties of life together are usually much more of a bind to make you pretend that it's not balls.

emil.y, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

Crashing the car is "fairly basic"?

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

Um, yes? I mean, I'm assuming here that it was an accident. Obviously if you were hepped up on goofballs and driving at 100mph it goes beyond basic.

emil.y, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

If someone crashes into you, that's an accident. If you crash into someone/something else, I would want nothing to do with you as a life-partner. That's my condition.

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

: D

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

getting hung up on a type of unconditional love that i don't think anyone is arguing for here

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

Ehh not everyone might be into the idea of giving unconditional love, but that doesn't mean it's balls.

just1n3, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

Lol, mister flatbread. Lol indeed. Well, I don't drive, so I'd be fine, anyway.

just1n3, if you really think that you can give unconditional love in a way that is rigorous philosophically and doesn't render the term redundant, then go for it. It seems to me that those who have argued for unconditional love existing in this thread have definitions of unconditional love that I would just call a definition of love, full stop, and certainly don't have anything to do with the term 'unconditional'.

emil.y, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

If send our children away in one another's cars they are not to come home in a neck brace. That is the bedrock of my relationship with my wife.

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

What if my brain got transplanted into the body of a dog?

would pet

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

would abuse advantage at sheep trials

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

'Unconditional love' is such balls, though, sorry. There are always conditions. I mean, what if I killed your family? What if my brain got transplanted into the body of a dog?

i loled and totally agree with you -- what we're talking about is "love" not "unconditional love"

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

forgot about this thread, and it's been helpful to read through parts of it.

i guess it's been about a month or so since our breakup, and i just moved out last thursday. the hardest part for me has been realizing that i have no idea how to meet girls at all. last time i was dating lots of girls, i was 20 and i was having parties at my house every other night, and going to other people's parties when i wasn't having my own. now, only 8 years later, i have a job and i'm lame and i rarely go to parties...there's a halloween one this saturday i'm going to and i'm actually fucking NERVOUS! like, wtf happened to me? anyway, the thing where you go to a bar and meet someone just doesn't work well with me, and same with other chance encounters. i tend to be a little awkward when i first meet someone, so i need to bump into people multiple times over a short period of time and let them get to know me in different settings before things ever click. at least, that's the way it used to be?

god man, someone come here and toss cold water on my face and just slap the shit out of me, i am fucking lame

whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

there's also the fact that i'm a sickly skinny dude and that means that 90% of girls reject me on sight. i really lucked out with my ex, she was "into" skinny guys, which was like the most lucky event of my life

whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

i have no idea how to meet girls at all

overnight civil disobedience iirc

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

ha, that kind of didn't pan out. we're actually friends now, which is cool (i helped her work on a tar sands presentation that she gave last night in Alexandra, actually), but i quickly realized that the conversation was never going to expand beyond environmental issues and activism. i love to talk about that, but i also love to talk about many, many other things. and in our time together we've spent about 99.5% of the time talking about enviro stuff (other 0.5% was like "where is the bathroom?")

whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

iirc zs is among the dreamiest of ilxors based on wdyll feedback

If you have friends then you'll meet ppl, don't sweat it. You'll be doing well to avoid blind dates tbh.

Also, go through yr phonebook. Worthwhile exercise ime

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

haha, i've already sent a few embarrassing late-night facebook messages to people i haven't talked to in half a decade.

whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

corny admission, i combed my phonebook because my self-appointed wingman/guru forced me to and came up with one name.

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

ZS is totally cute, and so is crüt. But I still don't think the 'get a new relationship/get laid to validate yourself' advice is the best. I dunno, I mean, I get 'putting yourself out there' to a certain extent, but maybe I just don't get it because the world of American dating is so alien to me?

emil.y, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

'get a new relationship/get laid to validate yourself'

Feel like this is again a misreading.

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

imo never have a wingman. otoh there's a paradox here as that belief stems from my deep seated "all advice is awful/no one understands anything" conviction, so i'm not sure i can recommend this info to you.

ogmor, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

yeah ppl have already clarified they weren't saying that i think

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

Well, what are you saying? It was discussed in the context of advice, so are you denying that one of the pieces of advice to get over a breakup was to go out and meet someone else? If you do deny it, then what context does it have? If you agree that it was advice, then what is to be gained by it? Most of the thoughts have been some variant on self-validation, self-respect, feeling good about oneself again.

emil.y, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

you've put the cart rather vehemently before the horse?

I, and i think most others, told crut that you could think about dating again without fully being over a big breakup.

Not as a way to get over it or as a coping mechanism, just that y'know you don't have to exclude yourself from the notion until you feel over it or w/e

I don't think that's anything to get hung up on tbh

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

If you crash into someone/something else, I would want nothing to do with you as a life-partner. That's my condition.

Stop being my dad! On ilx! The smiley face that came after means that you didn't real mean it, did you?

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

The whole unconditional love schtick is, for me, too enmeshed w religion. In fact, theologically speaking humans are INCAPABLE of unconditional love but should aspire to it because it's the most godlike or Christ-like state of being. So only God can love TRULY unconditionally, and the relationship with God is where we're supposed to find our perfect love and acceptance while at the same time taking responsibility for always trying to be better than we are so that we can creep closer to being deserving of his grace.

That recipe has every ingredient for neurosis ever, right?

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

Laurel, please name other instances in which I have been your dad. I am somewhat joking about the car accident thing - bad things happen to good people - but I would be extremely concerned if there were a pattern of such incidents.

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

Also I'm sorry to make issues about me and MY issues but tbh the pressure I had internalized to always "be better" and forgive more and absorb more and look for what *I* could do better is part of what got me into that mess.

xp Even if that was the only instance, it would still be too much. But since you are not a terrible person I will assume you're mostly joking.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

ANYWAY. SORRY. BREAK-UPS AND GETTING OVER THEM.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

I, and i think most others, told crut that you could think about dating again without fully being over a big breakup.

Not as a way to get over it or as a coping mechanism, just that y'know you don't have to exclude yourself from the notion until you feel over it or w/e

Yeah, that's cool. I said above I agree with that. Probably just the veering off-topic that made it seem more like it was a YOU MUST FIND SOMEONE ELSE RIGHT NOW thing.

emil.y, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

ha cool i'm on yr side there tbh

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I certainly don't think anyone should be pressured into dating again in the hopes of transactionally gaining the benefit of getting over their ex. That does seem weird and quasi-PUA to me, but I don't think that was what I was trying to convey.

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

Just also, while respecting and honoring your emotions, don't be a slave to them such that you cloister yourself away for your whole early twenties while you're still cute.

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

looool

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

I have dated people in the past two years. It's definitely helped me feel more confident about myself & learn more about myself & relationships, but on the other hand these relationships were mostly full of unnecessary drama & reopened the wounds of the old breakup whenever we'd stop dating

wrestlingisreal420 (crüt), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

you shouldn't let someone else's schedule of when you should be over someone/something add to your anxiety or make you feel worse as a person.

sarahel, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

here are a bunch of things i think about this thread, i think i'm just gonna write them & then watch a film so sorry for just interrupting instead of arguing, i will come back:

if we all waited till we were emotionally healthy before dating someone we would be single a really long time! You just need to meet the person who will support you and understand you and be willing to love you unconditionally.

― just1n3, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:21 (4 hours ago) Bookmark

this is otm! like i feel this is just part of modern life, part of being of a generation that takes a slightly more flexible path in terms of dating diff people (compared to some maybe reductive idea of prev gens settling down at 21 or w/e). there are complicated & tangled aspects to ending up with someone new, because maybe part of you would still on some level be invested in what you were like, or who you were with, in another relationship, but i think generally that can be made irrelevant by understanding that it having fallen apart or w/e is what lead you to being who you are now & where you are now, that that was then and this is now, even if you still have secrets to whisper into a rock. relationships are so different, also; I don't think that they necessarily/definitely share/overlap enough from one to the next to give a sense of 'replacement', in which you've switched one partner for the other and carried on trucking; i think you change a whole bunch in the interim and have a diff kind of relationship w/diff priorities, etc - some domestic, some physical, some extroverted some isolated &c&c&c, but not the same.

re: the unconditional love thing: i am w/darragh in thinking that it's not really something we're trying to explore rigorously or put to a but-what-if-you________ test. i think it's just shorthand for being with someone for whom the 'love' thing is a constant, and to whom your actions will be perceived in context, ie understanding if you are going through hard times or whatever, or understanding that you had to kill their family, or understanding that you always liked dogs and so duh. it's not like love is the bulletproof thing that will DEF force someone to be with you FOREVER, even if you superglue their hands together EVERY NIGHT while they sleep; just that you're with someone with whom you're well integrated etc. obv that's never 100% guaranteed but i think enough people feel it for it to be taken at face value, for some.

& re: there's also the fact that i'm a sickly skinny dude and that means that 90% of girls reject me on sight. i really lucked out with my ex, she was "into" skinny guys, which was like the most lucky event of my life

sickly hi-five, z s. i think a bunch of ilx guys are in relationships and they are mainly variations on the handsome/occasionally beardy/skinny guy theme (high five ilx). I also think that the weird thing about contemplating a prospective, as-yet-undetailed future relationship of some sort is that you're trying to work out what the amorphous collective of all the people/guys/girls in the world would like about you, where as in fact that person is always just an exception & an individual, as likely to appear whether everyone is the same & has the same type or whether they're anomalous. i guess running with this fades into WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT bs but the statisticsy thing feels kinda irrelevant to me, i think. i quite like/mainly agree w/p20 of this on that theme.

the contemporary jazz guitar gettin mad liberated (schlump), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

Crut, I'm not that up on your personal life, but have you already gone the therapy/counseling route? Because that seems like the obv next step if this issue is playing out 5x over two years and you don't see a route to resolving the personal ish here.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

You shouldn't let the grieving/anxiety/shitty-feelings rule your life. if you don't feel capable of dating or being in a relationship then write it off for the time being. But it's important to do other things that make you feel better and like a worthwhile person. I don't know if it's weird, but i feel like the dating/relationship stuff isn't _that_ different from developing and maintaining good friendships. i feel like societally we've built it into this rarefied thing, when it's probably healthier to look at as a "bff you enjoy fucking."

sarahel, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

another hi quality schlump post imo

Sarahel otm in one aspect in particular- cos being bff's that *hate* fucking is just awkward

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

thanks for that link, schlump, and the post in general. and yeah, i'm board with the "Margaux" page as well. my ex was not all what i was looking for, and that's why i ended up being so fascinated with her for so long.

whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

i'm ON board

whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

also meant to say that you are p smokin, re: special guest wdyll appearance, but forgot

the contemporary jazz guitar gettin mad liberated (schlump), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

btw the last time i was skinny i couldn't grow a beard, take ~that~ ilx stereotype

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

last time i was dating lots of girls, i was 20 and i was having parties at my house every other night, and going to other people's parties when i wasn't having my own. now, only 8 years later, i have a job and i'm lame and i rarely go to parties

just think about the poor slobs who are 35, 45, 55 going through this! you have a head start!

sarahel, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

Crut's fb photos always make his life look like total fun times, so unless they are all really old and you're faking us out, it seems like with the music and the friends and the camping trips and whatever that you DO have stuff going on?? And hobbies/pursuits/personal goals? Obv I don't know the full sitch here but "help getting over a break-up" doesn't seem like what's really needed.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

Crut -- go on tour!

sarahel, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

and ZS - you are the creator of Evil Guide Dog - which makes you a rockstar in my eyes.

sarahel, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link

i tried to mention evil guide dog a few times irl...it did not work out so well

whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

those women have no taste, imo

sarahel, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

when even the wes anderson approach fails you, it's tough no doubt

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

lool i forgot abt evil guide dog

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

there's also the fact that i'm a sickly skinny dude and that means that 90% of girls reject me on sight. i really lucked out with my ex, she was "into" skinny guys, which was like the most lucky event of my life

this is nonsense...lots of girls are into this type!

bene_gesserit, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

can you tell me where these girls are, and if they tend to gather at the same location at a particular time of day

/creepin

whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

lol at the thought of walking by that location at that time of day

haaaaaaaaay

whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

just go where the hipsters go and you will be all set.

bene_gesserit, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

tá sé ag caint leis an béal bocht imo

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

just go where the hipsters go and you will be all set.

― bene_gesserit, Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:15 PM (7 minutes ago)

otm

sarahel, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

ZS: former Britpop girls (basing this on the ones I know, who are... me) love skinny boys. I married a man in no small part thanks to my teenage crush on Jarvis Cocker. FIND PULP FANS!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

well, lets see my marriage ended in late July...i've been dating a wonderful girl since september. Yes, i didn't wait long, I met her on a whim at a wedding. My marriage was over emotionally 3 years ago. I guess I was just ready.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

I think if it feels right, it doesnt matter when you get back on the horse.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

it feels really right.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

there's also the fact that i'm a sickly skinny dude and that means that 90% of girls reject me on sight.

Excuse me but this is complete insanity.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

just think about the poor slobs who are 35, 45, 55 going through this! you have a head start!

yeah, f u

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

i am one of those poor slobs btw

sarahel, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

i'm only 3 years away from the first slob tier :(

bene_gesserit, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

can you tell me where these girls are, and if they tend to gather at the same location at a particular time of day

/creepin

― whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, October 26, 2011 8:14 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ummmm hello it is called Bloomingdale, get thee to the Bear like any time day or night!

quincie, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

Don't worry, bell labs, there's room. #occupytierone

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

wait bell labs?????

quincie, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

wait bell labs?????

formerly known as...

bene_gesserit, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

OH HAI!!!!!

Glad to see you back!

quincie, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

wau

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

Ummmm hello it is called Bloomingdale, get thee to the Bear like any time day or night!

i live a couple blocks away from Big Bear, and yeah, I've been there frequently. :O

also double wau at bell labs

whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

U guize, pay attention.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

hi everyone!

bene_gesserit, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

i mean...it's like...how long have you been posting here??

i swear, i pay attention, too! or try to.

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6869/itisamystery.png

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

i've really only been sporadically posting for the last few weeks and mostly on ILS.

bene_gesserit, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

I will add to the "ZS u mad if u think no one likes skinny wan boys" chorus. But, I just get called a creep when I say anything?

Try being my age, no ones interested anymore, tk u gdnite.

Trayce, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

i'll have a fight with the fists of anyone who's calling you creep, trayce

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

just with the fists tho

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

goddammit, i have no idea how i got into this but somehow i'm looking at a ton of old photobooth pictures

this is fucking terrible

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

how not to get over a breakup

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

more evil guide dog!!!

sarahel, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, maybe i'll go home and make evil guide dog come in and poop in my mouth in that picture or something

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

Now I don't know if I'll get over ZS' breakup.

pplains, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

i know, jeez

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

oh, there's so much more where that came from

it's like an instant kit to send yourself into a bender

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

Hahah fight with the fists. <3 btw I think evil guide dog is like, the best thing ever, better than Bender steering with his ass.

Trayce, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

You can torture yourself with photos if you really want to. But one of these days you just have to make a choice not to look at them any more. The pain stops feeling good after a while? Or even fulfilling in a masochistic way? It just starts to be really BORING, and takes days to get out of. You can compress the recovery process a little bit with practice, but do you really want to get it from 4 days to 2 days but still be FUCKING MISERABLE for 2 days every time you go look at their fb or crack a photo album?

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

ehh idk man. i check in and look at what an ex is doing on facebook, &, not to give the impression that i would otherwise be turning up at their window or making breathy nuisance calls, think it's probably not a terrible solution if you're trying to minimise contact, which i think generally people deem necessary or appropriate, while still dealing with the fact that you're attached to someone & invested in their life. i have these adorable screengrabs of me & someone skyping, which are like - okay maybe not at the the actual visual epitome of romance level of z s' photobooth snaps - but which totally summarise us & that time and a place, & i think part of what you get in looking at them is a distance from the people in them. how could you not? and it's not as literal as that, that it helps you move on - MY HAIR WAS LONGER THEN, NOW I AM A CHANGED MAN - but that shit is relics, & you probably get used to understanding them as such. i don't think they should nec be in your OFF LIMITS zone anyway.

the contemporary jazz guitar gettin mad liberated (schlump), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

so much of "if we were together" is so speculative as to be nonsensical - we would be so happy! presents a v specific imagined course of events - that it doesn't hurt to know people are in a different place and things have changed. not that i am above archeologising past relationships & piecing together their fragments but it doesn't seem as convincing as some of the other elements of having broken up with someone that are hard to deal with.

the contemporary jazz guitar gettin mad liberated (schlump), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

I look at old photos the same way most people look at the Hindenberg disaster. Must have been pretty emotional at the time, but give it a few years and you have the ability to look at it as clip art.

pplains, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

sometimes a pony is emotional

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

Unless your girlfriend died on that burning dirigible, then I guess not. nevermind.

xp

pplains, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

would be way easier if i was pissed at her and could draw devil horns and vampire teeth all over the pictures

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

'emotional clip art' is david berman good

the contemporary jazz guitar gettin mad liberated (schlump), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

hi bell labs!

turkey in the straw (x2) (remy bean), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

Now I don't know if I'll get over ZS' breakup.

― pplains, Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

^^ otm.

I think the 'torturing yourself with photos' as Laurel calls it is not a bad thing per se, it's all part of "getting over a break up" too. Bouncing from feeling ridiculously confident to ridiculously sentimental and melancholy, and all of the many shades in between. Solely speaking for myself here, but going through those numbing highs and torturing lows were necessary to come to terms with things. And it was me even that ended the relationship at the time; but easy, it was not. Not in the least.

I therefore totally relate to you Zach, feeling like it would be easier if you were pissed at her and could justifiably think she was the devil. But sometimes it doesn't play out that way, and reasons in hindsight seem to lie in annoyingly small details and nuances that all add up, in "this just isn't working anymore, fuck, sadly" instead of "she's Satan! gtfo!".

Grant yourself the time to go through those highs and lows. You'll notice soon enough if you either want to go "on the rebound" for the sake of it, or withdraw from anything that even remotely touches on intimacy. Point is: it's all good. After a break up, bad and good experiences will equally help you to get through it. So don't be afraid to screw up now. You can't.

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

I wish I were still super skinny & sickly and not just sickly

wrestlingisreal420 (crüt), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

So don't be afraid to screw up now. You can't.

I intend to fully test this assumption, in the name of science.

But for real, that seems like sound advice. And I do like the idea that things could go a number if ways in the next several months, but even the relatively negative experiences are still useful in a way.

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link

LBI otm. Schlump otm. ZS, from WDYLL evidence I have always though you are an attractive dude. There, now it's going to be awkward at the next DC fap (only not really as I am nearly 40)

ljubljana, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

Z S you are cuet as hell and I dont even have a skinny boy fetish. Were I a passing lady on the street I would turn my head.

Hopefully that gives you intended warm & fuzzy, not ugh crepey gtfo.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 October 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

Jeez, you all are waaay too kind. But thanks all the same. I owe everyone many fancy beers at the next fap.

(speaking of, we should get on that!)

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Thursday, 27 October 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

nominate galway

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 October 2011 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

Z S if i saw u on the street i would turn my head and be like "hey, that's that guy from the internet"

caek, Thursday, 27 October 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

then i would wonder why you hadn't emailed me if you were visiting munich

caek, Thursday, 27 October 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

Funny after reading this thread I get a Facebook ad with my ex-girldfriend's profile and some dude's:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6403/xxde.gif

Feel like if I ever ran into Damien Echols, he'd be all "Hey, man. You and ________ still together?" and I'd be all, "D. Oh, sit down and let me tell you what happened..."

pplains, Thursday, 27 October 2011 03:36 (twelve years ago) link

yeah...after we broke up, she removed me as a facebook friend. it was a good move, probably, because i had been trolling her page looking for evidence of the other person. and when she saw the picture of me and the tar sands protest girl she flipped out.

but now, every time i go onto facebook it's like "YOU SHOULD BE FRIENDS WITH YOUR EX-GIRLFRIEND! 100 MUTUAL FRIENDS"

fuck

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Thursday, 27 October 2011 03:44 (twelve years ago) link

er... is that the West Memphis 3 Damien Echols?!

the men who glare at stoats (sic), Thursday, 27 October 2011 03:51 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah. Small world.

pplains, Thursday, 27 October 2011 03:54 (twelve years ago) link

> but now, every time i go onto facebook it's like "YOU SHOULD BE FRIENDS WITH YOUR EX-GIRLFRIEND! 100 MUTUAL FRIENDS

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Facebook seems so oblivious to real-life relationships sometimes. I mean, can't its silicon brain wrap its head around the notion that I may not want to meet all of my ex's 58 new friends?

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

Uhhhh

Curtis is dreamy
and so is Z/S

what gives?

Actually I am dreamy, too, what gives there?
WHY?

WHY??????

homosexual II, Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

ha, that kind of didn't pan out. we're actually friends now, which is cool (i helped her work on a tar sands presentation that she gave last night in Alexandra, actually), but i quickly realized that the conversation was never going to expand beyond environmental issues and activism. i love to talk about that, but i also love to talk about many, many other things. and in our time together we've spent about 99.5% of the time talking about enviro stuff (other 0.5% was like "where is the bathroom?")

― whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

haha yeah this is tough. how do you move on from talking shop? "yeah, tar sands are bad. but do you know what's not bad? THE PIXIES. do you like the pixies?"

"..."

dayo, Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

tar sands suck, how you likin those bears this year? Uh, no, i meant the football team. Never mind

RIP Big Muam mißya til I'm Libya (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 October 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

Something must be done about big oil. But let's get down to brass tacks. Aren't tapas amazing?

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 October 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

Seriously! I have no idea how to cross the divide. All I really want to know is if, say, she would enjoy watching The Room or if she wouldn't "get it"

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Thursday, 27 October 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

It's a fact that someone finding ZS attractive is not an anomaly but perfectly natural. This fact is such common knowledge that you would not have to cite it in a reference paper!!!

despite all my rage I am still just a Latter Day Saint (Abbbottt), Thursday, 27 October 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

^^, i think if there is a real problem it is the tommy wiseau litmus test you expose your suitors to

the contemporary jazz guitar gettin mad liberated (schlump), Thursday, 27 October 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

jeez, abbbottthttp://i44.tinypic.com/mb5q3p.png

it's not a tommy wiseau litmus test...i mean, it be cool if they watched it and didn't like it. it's more like "are you willing to even try" to watch this thing

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Thursday, 27 October 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

what if they watched it and they couldn't get over how well Wiseau channels the passion of Tennessee Williams

wrestlingisreal420 (crüt), Thursday, 27 October 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

Seriously! I have no idea how to cross the divide. All I really want to know is if, say, she would enjoy watching The Room or if she wouldn't "get it"

Geez dude, *I* would go out with you in a second, just for this.

Trayce, Friday, 28 October 2011 06:04 (twelve years ago) link

get the room

estela, Friday, 28 October 2011 07:27 (twelve years ago) link

ha

RIP Big Muam mißya til I'm Libya (darraghmac), Friday, 28 October 2011 07:54 (twelve years ago) link

lol

Hardy Rock Anthem (crüt), Friday, 28 October 2011 07:54 (twelve years ago) link

get me room

Hardy Rock Anthem (crüt), Friday, 28 October 2011 07:54 (twelve years ago) link

Double lol

Trayce, Friday, 28 October 2011 08:00 (twelve years ago) link

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 28 October 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

lol amirite

the ghost-fisting is a one-off thing (darraghmac), Friday, 28 October 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

I may see if I Tommy Wiseau is available for personal life coaching

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Friday, 28 October 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

Grant yourself the time to go through those highs and lows.

this totally otm

tehresa, Saturday, 29 October 2011 01:52 (twelve years ago) link

I get the tommy exposure litmus test tho - I tried to foist tim and eric on the guy i'm seeing and he wouldnt have a bar of it, he hated it :( I darent even TRY The Room. Blarhh :(

Trayce, Saturday, 29 October 2011 05:07 (twelve years ago) link

And yet he thinks collegehumor.com and MadTV are hilarious wtf >:|

Trayce, Saturday, 29 October 2011 05:08 (twelve years ago) link

a bar I was in the other night was playing The Room on repeat, was the bar flirting w/ me y/n?

ogmor, Saturday, 29 October 2011 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

i been holding this off but guys everything is hell and i need somebody to chuckle a shoulder; nothing left of me but rancour :(

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

no idea how to 'chuckle a shoulder' (butchering term?) but blue saturday thread is open until i fall asleep fyi

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

*shoulder chuckle*
*big squishy hug*

I'm sorry NV...

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

thanks peeps...i never wanted to be that bloke who staggers into yr table but...this table is private, anyway. sorry. had to blub at somebody, i think

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

wwmmcd

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

if you gotta offload, this here is the place to do it <3

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 October 2011 01:53 (twelve years ago) link

Oh shit, NV. Blub away, dude. Sorry to hear you're going through shit.

emil.y, Sunday, 30 October 2011 02:15 (twelve years ago) link

aw, really sorry nv :(

tehresa, Sunday, 30 October 2011 02:19 (twelve years ago) link

thanks everybody. at least for one in my life i can say "too old for this shit" with a straight face :\

Baobab Galliwasplie (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

NV you are a dude and I wish the best for you

dayo, Sunday, 30 October 2011 03:27 (twelve years ago) link

Me too.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 30 October 2011 04:24 (twelve years ago) link

"

pplains, Sunday, 30 October 2011 04:53 (twelve years ago) link

Solidarity w/ NV.this is the worst

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Sunday, 30 October 2011 06:12 (twelve years ago) link

Ah man, NV, so sorry, wishing you the very best <3

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 30 October 2011 10:23 (twelve years ago) link

NV!!

no idea what to say except:

from where i sit you are all i want to be when i have kids-- hope there's a light at the end of the tunnel for you, mate.

know that this retarded message board loves you and is here for you.

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 30 October 2011 12:40 (twelve years ago) link

really sorry to read this, NV.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 30 October 2011 12:54 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry you're going through this, NV. Hang in there.

D. Boon Pickens (WmC), Sunday, 30 October 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

<3 nv

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Sunday, 30 October 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

thanks again. :)

shit is really weird. me and mrs v have talked about stuff and yelled about stuff and talked again etc. i don't think i want us to be over, but she's right that over the last few years something has died between us. i don't know if i'm avoiding the inevitable cos of fear or laziness or if we really are beyond repair, or if i want us to be repaired if i'm honest. so we go a week or two not doing anything about this but we come back to she thinks i shd go, and if that's the only way for her to be happy then deep down i know it has to happen.

we're both all about planning to keep the kids at the front of this - i'm not afraid they're gonna run away and leave me, but even living down the street will be me missing my home, my family. i've been an absent dad once, and not made such a great job of it, and i've learned from that but i know how much it kills too. and these are probably not reasons to stay together either, in the end.

never felt so middle-aged and doomed to loneliness tbh :| but will get thru because i have dependents and while they're still dependent they're more important than me. gonna sit down and talk out some concrete plans tonight, i hope. the perpetual hanging on that we're in now isn't doing anybody any good. but it always feels easier to sit tight and cross fingers and hope for something to change, no matter how impossible that is.

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

Have you tried couples counselling? It might well be the case that it really is over, but it could still be good to gain an understanding of the situation within a structured environment even if that is so.

emil.y, Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

feeling for you here

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

oh NV, I'm so sorry.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

So sorry to hear this. I know sod all about long term relationships but I think emil.y might be otm.

ljubljana, Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

we've batted the idea back and forth, it has pros and cons i think.

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

Is it more that she has her mind kinda made up?

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

(just parsing that from what you said upthread)

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

I truly feel for you NV, and hope you can get through this, whatever is best, however it pans out. Big hug.

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

xp

i think so, and is too kind to be vehement about it, or is going thru the same kind of mixed emotions as me.

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

thoughts with you, obv

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

The thing with counselling is that if there are deep-seated ill feelings, hearing those as a partner can be..well, kinda soul crushing. Don't get me wrong; I think counselling is a good idea in general, but for long-term relationships it can be heartbreaking. At least from what I have seen.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i think subconsciously i'm feeling that, and i was pretty pro counselling originally.

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

from your persona here NV you're a heavy drinker---is this part of what's going on? cos if so then I'm guessing this is gonna be brutal.

Euler, Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

Gonna give u another hug now, NV. Fyi.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not half as heavy a drinker as i used to be, and tbh this whole situation is making me less inclined to drink, so hey there's that ;)

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think i want us to be over, but she's right that over the last few years something has died between us.

So sorry, NV. same kinda thing happened to me recently, and the whole thing is just emotionally wrecking.

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Sunday, 30 October 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

It gets better, guys! It really does. I think I was somewhat spared in my last (major) breakup in that while there was a lot of love, there was a lot of bile and hurt feelings that a break really solved. When it's just a matter of a disconnect or things not clicking anymore, there's more of a tendency to play "what if." The best thing to remember is that sometimes, all the scenarios that could play out really already have.

mh, Sunday, 30 October 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

oh NV, so sorry to hear this - this must be horribly hard on you. You are a good dude, and I really hope you get through this as well as can be expected.

octavio paz de la huerta (c sharp major), Sunday, 30 October 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not always a good dude tbf, and in part that's why we're here.

had a civilised strategy discussion. am now officially looking for somewhere to live. :|

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 October 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

aw NV so sorry to hear about this. All best to you.

despite all my rage I am still just a Latter Day Saint (Abbbottt), Sunday, 30 October 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

no-one can be always a good dude! but you are thinking about protecting mrs V's feelings as well as your own, and about how this will work out for the kids, and you are having civilised conversations, and i don't imagine you're doing this all bloodlessly and without rancour & self-pity & all the ugliest emotions but I bet you're trying pretty hard to remain decent, and to me that is the measure as much as or even more than constant correct behaviour.

octavio paz de la huerta (c sharp major), Sunday, 30 October 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

stay well over the next while

interim dn (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 October 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

all the best nv, i hope all the non-emotional stuff is as ok + straihjtforward as can be

Local Christian Blues (schlump), Sunday, 30 October 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link

now is the time when you should have no qualms about drinking heavily imo and iirc

sarahel, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

Nothing wrong with not feeling like drinking. My first real mid-20s breakup left me not feeling like anything more than a beer.

mh, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:55 (twelve years ago) link

NV, I like you very well and I'm sorry about this turn. I hope the road gets easier, sooner.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Monday, 31 October 2011 02:19 (twelve years ago) link

if there is even a remote chance of keeping the relationship going, and both parties are willing to give it a shot with an open mind, i would recommend couples therapy but not everyone does well in that milieu. good luck whatever you decide

buzza, Monday, 31 October 2011 02:29 (twelve years ago) link

Hey NV, really sorry to hear what's going on, must be a hugely shitty thing. If I were any closer I would totally be buying you a beer right now, but a crappy internet man-hug will have to suffice. If it's any consolation, it's good to hear that you're both communicating and trying to sort it out like adults. No matter how fucked off you might get, I hope you'll always be able to talk to each other to some extent. I'm currently witnessing the opposite approach to marriage break-up at close quarters with one of my siblings and it's a total fucking disaster. Do not let that happen :(

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Monday, 31 October 2011 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

aye, NV, it is with you, my heart.

Sophomore subs are the new Smith lesbians. (the table is the table), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 02:40 (twelve years ago) link

Good luck with keeping it civilised NV, it's tough but I can rep for the benefits (4 years post-divorce, but on good terms and that means a lot).

I'd stan for the benefits of counselling too, except that it's so hard to find the right counsellor.

All the best, anyhow. Internet-stranger hugs all the way.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 09:27 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry to hear NV, as someone going through a divorce it gets easier. It's best if not hard to try to be as amicable as possible for the kids. My soon to be ex and I are on better terms now then we ever were married.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

Right there with you guys but trying to keep too busy to be sad
it's generally working but i'm afraid i'm gonna hit a breakdown at some point

google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

sorry to hear that forks.

i'm not so good at making myself busy, not with important stuff, so i'm just fitting micro-breakdowns in during secluded moments :)

everybody who says this will get better is right tho, and thanks.

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

I'm basically doing things every night and trying to date multiple women to get my head right
i'm also staying in good touch with the ex and we do stuff together regularly and talk a lot
this couldn't be going better and it's still kinda difficult sometimes

google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

the difficulty is a testament to the good things about your last relationship, i guess. so it's a positive, albeit a sad one.

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, that's accurate and really worth considering

google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

I'm basically doing things every night me too!
and trying to date multiple women to get my head right me...not. d'oh.

sorry to hear about it forks, but glad it's going relatively well for you.

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

well i'm _trying_ you know. dunno if i'm succeeding. i need to meet more girls. NYC ilxors should point their cute single friends my way. I am employed with a couple of very neat jobs,l no addictions or hangups, i will open the door and take your coat for you, i am reasonably funny and not too hard on the eyes. I spend a lot of time on the internet though, so there's that.
got a date to go do yoga tonight with a purty gal though. that is not a euphemism.

google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

i'm back :(

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

well if its any compensation...i wasn't expecting to find another person after...i wasn't looking and bang...it happened.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

...and bang

Abattoir Educator / Slaughterman (schlump), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

ad infinitum

Abattoir Educator / Slaughterman (schlump), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

thebango

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

i can't remember whether it was in this thread or another, but i was writing something about how people maybe have more partners than they previously would have, now, in a lifetime, & i don't know whether it's that or something else but: dealing with the mess of having broken up with someone feels so 'modern' to me, & i don't know why, because it's eternal. like incrementally becoming more aware of the sprawl of all the different strands that made up the relationship, each becoming apparent at some different point after the thing fell apart, it is so strange to have to confront it all.

Abattoir Educator / Slaughterman (schlump), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

so sad to think that there was a last time that so many things happened between you, but you missed it, or forgot it, because you didn't realise it was the last time as it happened.

Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

i kinda think that side of things is almost like a schroedinger's-cat-style state change, in which things are retroactively transformed. that a certain thing you were in the middle of won't ever reach some sort of fruition can retroactively transform it into something 'failed', which it wasn't at the time. it is a crazy thing.

Abattoir Educator / Slaughterman (schlump), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

but yeah mainly just v sad

Abattoir Educator / Slaughterman (schlump), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

xpost
yeah, definitely. like the last real kiss. last time you saw their parents. last time eating out together. last party you held together. sigh

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

hugs

surm, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

last hugs

double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

cut it out

mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

things

blind pele (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

I think the modern condition is more about recognizing that break-ups and divorces aren't like an end-all and that we have more successful dynamics available to people relationship-wise than we did in the past.

That said, I have still run into people with the "omg I'm 25 and not married yet, failure!" mentality and they seem very rural

mh, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

beats the shit out of the same declaration in the 2nd person tbh

blind pele (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

bad dreams all night, that n. had betrayed me and was laughing as i got old alone. the sort of nightmares that cast a bad shadow over the day, especially when i know they're quite close to the wrong-headed surface.

i feel strong at the moment and tho i'm up and down i'm dealing pretty well but i'm scared i could fall into the deeps any time.

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2012 08:43 (twelve years ago) link

(hug)

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 January 2012 09:06 (twelve years ago) link

nobody ever really wishes ill on the person they broke up with in a normal breakup. and everybody with something to offer finds someone. be calm and carry on.

Thug Luftwaffle (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 January 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

dreams = a parody version of a real emotion. it's not the content that's upset me, it's a disguised expression of some real sadness that's chewing away

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, that's not gonna go away so easy. I hear you there. keeping it in perspective, as you seem to be doing, is important.

Thug Luftwaffle (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

tbf i'm wittering on the internet to put off going down the pub :D

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

and i to the gym, so fair game.

Thug Luftwaffle (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 January 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

Hugs, nv. Having the same thing with dreams tbh.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Sunday, 8 January 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

Bluurrrrfff totally a mistake to go back & have knitting TV zone background be the cutes episodes of Parks and Rec where April and Andy got married. One, I should be doing laundry and not watching Ntflx; two, ;_;
Looks like I should stick to the non-representational sounds and colors abstract show of the future from now on? Does anyone know where I can watch that?

no more mr. nice girls (Abbbottt), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

You just have to find shows with no romanting. Like police procedurals/mysteries.

It means why you gotta be a montague? (Laurel), Monday, 16 January 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

Hugs to you, Abbs <3

quincie, Monday, 16 January 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

i wish i did.

i'm experiencing the same thing with music. suddenly, the lyrical content of vast swaths of pop music (current and older music) is somewhat relevant again.

your pain is probably equal (Z S), Monday, 16 January 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

whoops, xpost.

your pain is probably equal (Z S), Monday, 16 January 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

you could just pull a z s and get so drunk that all you can see are non-representational sounds and colors. it seems to work pretty well in suppressing painful memories, but i'm also told it might not be a good long-term strategy?

your pain is probably equal (Z S), Monday, 16 January 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't really been sad about my most recent break up, but the one before that I watched a lot of Pawn Stars and American Pickers. Also, I ate a lot of oatmeal and toast. And smoked a lot of cigarettes. Pick and choose these as you see fit.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 January 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

I think a couple of months of being drunk every other night is ok once you get sick of spontaneously crying in public

ogmor, Monday, 16 January 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

One winter when I was sad about someone, I watched:

* The director's cuts of all the LOTR movies plus all the DVD extras and "Making of" segments.
* The director's cuts of all the Alien movies and all the "making of"s.
* Every season of The Wire and all the extras.
* Every British gangster movie I could find.

...and a bunch of other assorted stuff, none of which had themes of romance in any way. You can do it!

It means why you gotta be a montague? (Laurel), Monday, 16 January 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

it's amazing how sneaky heart-wrecking moments can get shoehorned in to more or less anything. except British gangster flicks probly :)

little blue souvenir (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 January 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

Well I mean there's "love" in some of them, but it always ends badly, so that makes it easier.

It means why you gotta be a montague? (Laurel), Monday, 16 January 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i know, i was just thinking of those sudden "abstract shit that shouldn't be making me cry and i'm not sure why it is" moments

little blue souvenir (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 January 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

even in Family Guy ffs

little blue souvenir (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 January 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

That's your fault for watching Family Guy, tbh.

It means why you gotta be a montague? (Laurel), Monday, 16 January 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

ooh burn

little blue souvenir (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 January 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

You can combine crying and drinking. I think a particularly interesting point was when I was about to watch the movie Up for the first time, and about two minutes in, decided I needed to go buy more whiskey before I watched the film.

mh, Monday, 16 January 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

true, tho xp

Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 January 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

I feel like going out and being gregarious through drinking can be legit useful when yr brain breaks, drinking at home not so much

ogmor, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I got my divorce paperwork today, sort of surreal. 15 years is broken down to 20 pages of legal mumbo jumbo. Sort of sad.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

wau. did you file or did she?

mookieproof, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

:/ Sorry, dude. That must be weird.

How is your ex-wife doing now? Is she still having episodes or has that evened out? And are things still going well with your new lady?

questions questions, lol sorry for being a busybody...tell me to gtfo if you don't want to go into it.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:09 (twelve years ago) link

the mediator filed on our behalf.

soon to be ex is fine, her and i on good terms.

New lady, great...although i am overcome with trust issues and insecurities. which will be the demise of what i have with her....

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:45 (twelve years ago) link

which to be honest, is kind of hard. It isn't easy being with someone who is completely different than what you are used to.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

On a much lesser scale, I just broke up with someone. I stuck around for a long time rather than leaving soon afterward, to make sure she had the opportunity to let things out, ask questions, all of that. And she ended up quietly saying some pretty cutting things which meant 10x more coming from her because she's bent over backwards to be accommodating to whatever my "situation" is. Stuff about being emotionally stagnant, and how I end up conforming to a patriarchal view of what a "man" should be, as much as I try to avoid it. A lot of it was true.

Ugh. Now I'm at a bar alone.

Z S, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link

bulleit

mookieproof, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago) link

ZS im sitting home alone, while i get ignored. TYPICAL for this girl. Aggravating.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:23 (twelve years ago) link

ZS, you're not long out of a major relationship. I think you're allowed to still be emotionally 'stagnant', whatever the fuck that means. I'm sure she has bent over backwards, but the fact is that that's not automatically going to make things okay.

emil.y, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:47 (twelve years ago) link

ZS, you did the right thing and a man who has known GAAAAAH is not emotionally stagnant for the long run, imo.

ljubljana, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link

zs, bingo...I dunno. Hugs is all I have. Love u guys.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 February 2012 04:15 (twelve years ago) link

congratulations, zs. you did the right thing.

tehresa, Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link

did you just look confused and go "uhh, well.... uh... HANDJOBS!!" and then run out, forgetting your shoes, never to return, wandering home shoeless in the night

you gotta keep that mystique of odd dickery

mh, Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:07 (twelve years ago) link

ZS stay focused on video games and animated gifs
they will see you through

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

'emotionally stagnant', i mean!

Even if that was coming from a well-intentioned place it seems a v presumptious thing to say to someone recently out of a lt relationship? You don't gallop out of these things delirious with energy, emotional freedom and the limitless prospects of personal growth ime, that shit hurts.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2012 11:01 (twelve years ago) link

Whole life kind of collapsed tonight. Oops.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link

oh no...

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:11 (twelve years ago) link

I'm basically too depressed to live with, which is a completely fair and accurate criticism. I just have no idea how I'm supposed to survive in New York with no friends or connections making <30k.

To say nothing of the fact that we were a family and now we're not and that hurts so much.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:18 (twelve years ago) link

fuck that's awful dude...I'm so sorry.

do you have kids?

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:20 (twelve years ago) link

i'm so sorry man. is there any chance of keeping together for a bit while you attempt to turn things around? i really sympathize with the "too depressed to live with" thing, it's bad for both sides.

tmi but (Z S), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:25 (twelve years ago) link

No, just a dog, but we'd formed a unit in a way I've never experienced before.

xp

That's what the last few months have been, basically. I just really hate the direction my life has taken, and it doesn't help at all that her's is almost exactly what I wish mine had been. Intra-relationship jealousy really doesn't work.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:30 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, that can be an awful feeling, when it feels like one person's life is on the rise and the others isn't (either getting actively worse, or just completely stagnant. the latter is what happened to me, and it really killed things in the end). sorry man, i really feel for you and i always wish in these kinds of situations that i could come by and hang out and have a beer with you or something.

tmi but (Z S), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:33 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks, I really appreciate it.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:36 (twelve years ago) link

are you living together?

tmi but (Z S), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:38 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, in faculty housing, no less. I can't even fathom moving out, but I guess I need to look, and soon. She wants me to stay, but I don't think that's a good idea at all.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:42 (twelve years ago) link

yeah. on the one hand it's nice to have somewhere to stay while you look for a new place, but the healing can't really begin until you leave, at least in my experience. do you have any friends that you could crash with for a few weeks?

tmi but (Z S), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:44 (twelve years ago) link

Closest place I know anyone is St. Louis. I almost flew home tonight just to have a place to escape, but who knew that travelling halfway across a continent at a moment's notice costs a bunch of money?

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:48 (twelve years ago) link

can i tell you something? i've been through that on both sides, and i am here to tell you that it can work out ok. one person is more miserable than the other for a while. and then you trade spots for a few years. it happens. sometimes it basically equalizes and then i don't know what happens next because i have only been in this relationship for 12 years. maybe it's different after 20? no idea.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:50 (twelve years ago) link

Also I very much unintentionally threw up the numbness shield (still totally up) which makes me feel like a monster. I mean, I'm not being mean or anything, but it feels horrible to have someone else crying their eyes out and to find yourself thinking about where your phone is.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:51 (twelve years ago) link

it'll come down eventually -- you're in crisis mode

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:53 (twelve years ago) link

I know... which is pretty scary.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:54 (twelve years ago) link

that is so sad. i wish i had the magical power of healing everyone who has depression issues.
have you tried to deal with the depression in more than 10 ways yet? i am on the verge of a fucking crusade against depression and its unnecessary stranglehold on the lives of many people i care about and millions more. fuck depression like we say fuck cancer imo.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 18 February 2012 07:04 (twelve years ago) link

It is so horrible to deal with a relationship possibly falling apart because of one's own issues that haven't been faced/dealt with. I've been there a few times recently and I've been mentally kicking myself to shit and back for it for years now, despite subsequent dating. I wish I could offer advice but all I can suggest is it does get less painful eventually, and I comiserate so much.

Lindsay NAGL (Trayce), Saturday, 18 February 2012 07:48 (twelve years ago) link

The internet is so weird. Come visit whenever you want, Nick.

gutta gutta island (s. morris), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

how I end up conforming to a patriarchal view of what a "man" should be, as much as I try to avoid it.

man this is the source of like so much anxiety for me

plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Sunday, 19 February 2012 05:48 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, neverending. i hate it.

tmi but (Z S), Sunday, 19 February 2012 07:49 (twelve years ago) link

If you two are that thoughtful about it, the odds are pretty good it won't happen.

carl agatha, Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

Crut, you are one of the least macho men I know online, and I mean that as a compliment.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 19 February 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

After he ditched plans to spend this weekend with me because of backup problems (Goblin Boy is a network admin), I have not spoken to GB since Saturday. I've been feeling really, really down the past couple of days, and I tried to be cool but tonight I thought fuck it, phoned him, no answer, and now I just feel ridiculously lonely and... discarded.

Still can't imagine dating anyone else.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

What a horrible person. I remember you were feeling quite... trepidatious about rekindling with GB (because there was stuff like this that he had to, y'know, get better at) but it really doesn't seem like he's improved in the slightest. And what are you getting out of this? Doesn't sound very fair. Grrrr, I would like to kick the goblin right now.

Hope you can find a way to a less down place. It's awful to be down, and want to have someone there that you can need, and have them just... not be there for you.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link

Right now I'm not getting anything out of it, obviously.

Some days I love being single. Some days I can't stand it, but both singleness and GB are HEAPS less scary/ icky concepts than dating. I have never really done it. My brain kind of shuts down at the thought of it. Even when someone apparently sane messages me on OKC I can't answer them. Arghlefargh.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 24 February 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link

I know you weren't advocating dating. That was my leap. I just want someone to curl up on the sofa with sometimes.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 24 February 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link

both singleness and GB are HEAPS less scary/ icky concepts than dating

and having a baby is somehow less scary than dating or finally cutting the cord to this guy who obviously isn't that into sharing your life?

valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 24 February 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

Having a baby is desperately scary! If I could procrastinate on that one I would!

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 24 February 2012 00:29 (twelve years ago) link

Idk but I guess I've spent a lot of time mentally rehearsing motherhood, and carefully watching other people do it. Being with GB I have also had plenty of practice at. Dating would be new, and none of my friends are doing it either, at least not IRL. I mean, a kick up the arse is not unwelcome but the mental block is massive.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 24 February 2012 00:34 (twelve years ago) link

And one more spammy post from me - at back of mind is still possibility of getting knocked up, however unlikely, and if I have to choose I choose - what have I become - breeding.

Shoot me someone.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 24 February 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, sometimes we do what we've got to do, but really, dude should be smart enough to stay the hell out of your life or grow a backbone.

He should at least have the self-confidence not to be with someone who calls him "Goblin Boy" ffs. Not because of you, but because what that means about him.

valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 24 February 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

We banter, we have a lot of pet names for each other, we acknowledge each other's unreasonable sides, we once had a 'Goblin Hat' competition: being called Goblin Boy wouldn't shake him up. We are both equally to blame for staying in a relationship that doesn't satisfy. My backbone is a thing that dissolves in the rain, since my divorce, and my mum going. STILL, I feel better for venting and I should try and get some sleep.

(I hate it when people go on and on about how unhappy they are and yet they won't do anything about it, don't you?)

X

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 24 February 2012 00:54 (twelve years ago) link

I feel frustrated for others, really!

That makes it a bit better, I forgot that context or didn't know.

valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 24 February 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link

(I hate it when people go on and on about how unhappy they are and yet they won't do anything about it, don't you?)

No, I absolutely disagree.

See, when you are in a situation which has become intolerable, and you *can't* actually do anything about it, the only options are to vent or to stay silent and suffer even more. And most times the difference between "can't" and "won't" is something which only exists clearly in the mind of the observer, not the person in the intolerable situation.

It's one of the hallmarks of actual friendship, when a person is prepared to listen and make sympathetic faces and not try to impose their ideas of what you can't or won't do. But I'm not sure that "ILX" in general is a particularly good friend that way.

Dating is horrible. It gets steadily more horrible on the other side of 35, and by 40 it's a wasteland. When it's not horrifying or actively debasing, it's mind-numbingly boring. I can completely see why you'd stay in an unfulfilling relationship whose troubles and boundaries are already known to you, than launch yourself into the scary unknown. (Trust me, the alternatives out here are even scarier - become obsessed with your cats, or collect pop stars like imaginary boyfriends?)

But it just seems as if, if your one objective from this relationships is, warm familiar body to allay the loneliness, and that body can't ever even be there, it's not even meeting your admittedly already low qualifications.

But I have no advice beyond this: if you're feeling unhappy about it, write about it. I'd say that to any creative type. If you're in a situation you can't see your way out of, evolution gifted you with two eyes and a massive forebrain for a reason. Write about what's gone wrong. Write about the idea relationship you wish you were having. Dress it up in fancy dress, or leave everything just as it is. It doesn't have to be good, it doesn't have to be even intended for other people. But that's what writing and art in general is for, to digest the things that you can't handle.

Sorry I'm not more helpful.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Friday, 24 February 2012 08:44 (twelve years ago) link

It's kind of wrongheaded but the "venting about unhappiness/frustrations" thing is often phrased as a stereotypically male versus female social exercise, the idea being that men generally state issues with a mind toward resolution and spout possible solutions at each other, while women vent frustrations/problems with the intended outcome of a sympathetic ear, or possibly just the acknowledgment that "yes, that sucks."

I don't know that it's a particularly gendered thing rather than a personality one that has been generalized to gender lines, but I definitely have been the "oh, we can fix that!" guy when I really should have just said "I'm sorry, this sucks!". Trying to propose solutions just frustrates the person venting more!

As long as you don't define yourself by your unhappiness, it's cool to go on about issues, imo

valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 24 February 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

Trying to propose solutions just frustrates the person venting more!
this is such a good point. i am a fixer. i want to solve problems. it's super hard for me to just say 'i'm sorry' when i see a possible way to fix something. why wouldn't you want to help someone fix something that's bothering them? but compassion sometimes means we need to just sit on that impulse and say, 'man, i am really sorry you are going through this.' some might see that as being an irresponsible friend/partner. some might see that as being a good friend/partner. so tricky to find the right balance. in the end it's no one's place to tell you what you should do about you, despite the fact that their proposed actions could have positive effects. sometimes you have to experience a difficult situation for a longer period before you have the same realization that someone outside the situation can see much sooner.

tehresa, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

This is one of those cases where I just want to say "please stop trying to gender everything, it's really unhelpful." Some women are "fixers" some men are "listeners."

I think it might actually have more to do with empathy - I used to be a terrible "fixer" until I realised how much I hated having it done to me, and made a deliberate attempt to try to stop. And if anyone tries to gender "empathy" I'll punch them in the face. (I.e. very non-female coded behaviour.)

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

I've learned that my 'fixing' instincts are not as noble as I had always thought. It disguises a need for control, that you need to own this person's problem in order for you to understand it, and the 'fixing' is really more helpful to you than it is for the other person. It's not necessarily helpful to that person to have a problem solved for them...it's taken me a long time to see that it's more beneficial and healing for the person to come to a solution on their own, with love and support. And it can be very freeing to not have a role in a person's problem solving. Again, I'm still learning this and practice is WAY harder than theory, but I've found myself feeling a lot better just listening, than, you know, *wearing* a person's problem...fixing is pretty stressful in the long run.

But empathy vs fixing is kind of situational. Well, that's what I'm coming to discover after lots of self-examination. Now I find that I can sometimes (*sometimes*) tell based on the person, or based on the way they're talking about a problem whether or not this is a 'fixing' situation or whether it's just a listening/rephrasing/empathy situation.

anyway, blabbity blooo, tl:dr lol

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

i think mh was arguing against making fixing and listening gender things
xpost

tehresa, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

veg, that is in no way tldr - i relate a lot to what you said.

tehresa, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

Hey, I'm allowed a bit of hyperbole if it's directed at myself I hope. I don't 'hate' it when my friends do it, though I might roll my eyes a bit after a while.

Nowadays I tend to come out and ask if advice is wanted, or just a shoulder to cry on and a cup of tea.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 24 February 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link

(I hate it when people go on and on about how unhappy they are and yet they won't do anything about it, don't you?)

fwiw i read this as you being v tongue in cheek

tehresa, Friday, 24 February 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

Dating is horrible. It gets steadily more horrible on the other side of 35, and by 40 it's a wasteland.

At 40 I can't say I agree with this, m'self. Frustrating and sometimes a vaguely panicky thing perhaps, but horrible, a wasteland? Not that Ive found. I've had to work hard at my own foibles to make it better, that said, and it hasnt been easy.

Lindsay NAGL (Trayce), Friday, 24 February 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

i think we discussed this on another thread a year or so ago. you are not obliged to date if you don't feel like it. And believe me, I can totally relate to feeling scared by it (which i am atm), so i just don't. I figure at some point that will change.

sarahell, Friday, 24 February 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

Well I'm 40 too! /hi5

tehresa, I was trying to be.

WCC, some wise words there. I do wish I could use writing as a release, but it only seems to work that way if I've been writing every day, so the practice is ingrained and I can get out of my own way. Oh well - all the more reason to get back into practice.

xpost - sarahell, yes indeed. I realise I don't really want to date, I just want a cuddle-buddy. My dad refuses to get a cat!!!

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

could you get one anyway and pretend it is just a hallucination he is having.

estela, Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link

over-reliance on cuddle-cats is the scourge of once-great nations

valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link

and still great women

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link

my own nation has nearly fallen

valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link

I lolled at the imaginary cat, had to explain to my dad, who objected to being mentioned on the internet, then suggested we could share a sofa when watching telly. Then got huffy when I demurred. Dad could not be more innocent, I feel bad for hurting his feelings, but ffs, I am not going to start cuddling up with my father, I am not 6, it would just be wrong.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i guess it was a stupid idea, but i've been missing N really badly these last couple of weeks, so tonight when i was over to look after the kids i asked if she wanted to go out some time, low-key, just see how it felt. i guess i need the information that we're over under-lining a lot before it'll sink in. feel like a bit of a dick, tbh. a broken-hearted dick.

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

(hug)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

how did she respond, N?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

you are not a dick

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

<3

truth fromgbs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

she was just sad cos she knew it must have taken me some courage to ask and she knew it wasn't the right thing for her. i guess when i first moved out we never hammered out in 6 foot high letters that this was over, forever, and i'm still at a stage where i'm finding it hard to believe that it is. cut up as i am tho, i think i needed to ask and just be told that we're done. again. we parted on good terms. i think probably because we're getting on better now is giving me false hope too.

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

i think i needed to ask and just be told that we're done

yes, ime

i think probably because we're getting on better now is giving me false hope too.

can happen, ime

truth fromgbs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

indeed

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

i have been mad weepy the last few days, who knew shit wouldn't just be an endless blissful stroll in the direction of self-improvement?

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

now i know you don't mean that

truth fromgbs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

no i think i naively thought "each day will make this a little easier", not "i will be okay for a week or two and then i'll go to bits again, repeat ad nauseam"

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

mookie otm, you're not a dick.

sometimes in yr mind you create a story that has no way of playing out irl, and a reminder of that, while painful and awkward, is part of the slow process of letting go. and ime it's a good sign that you see the reality even if you try anyway, that you know you're seeking that 'underlining'.

It will take a long time N, you're only human.

<3

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

it's been over a year for me and yet i still possess this new-found talent of more or less being able to cry on command. i should become an actor tbh

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link

'underlining' sneaks up on you, but not over a couple of weeks ime.

truth fromgbs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link

thanks guys. it's venting here or running back out to the off licence in the cold, and that doesn't seem to be helping :D

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link

how late is the off license open?

this is something i take into account in my day-to-day life

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link

run quicker, at least you're 'working out' that way

truth fromgbs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link

nah i was joking.

midnight.

srsly tho me and that are done, it's lost its erasive properties.

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link

just looking at a pic of me when i was running, it is not an advert for it as a health augmenter

truth fromgbs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

hey typing it out like this has actually made me unweepy anyway.

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

i keep saying that, but it keeps pulling me back in

one last job, then i'm done

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

I wd have medicinal beers with brokenhearted ilxors, fyi

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

unrelated note, saw my 7-yr ex in a red bmw convertible yesterday, she looked good

man am i glad i'm moving outta this fuckin town

truth fromgbs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link

omg i lost track are u actually moving to dub?

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link

when do u move dmac?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link

apr 1st, make the jokes yrself

truth fromgbs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link

i pity the fool

some crap (electricsound), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link

noodles you will look back on this day as a v important day

⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

i do sort of believe that, a bit

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

is the road to dublin rocky, y/n

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

gr080 otm

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

darragh you shd play the theme to Midnight Cowboy in the car as you arrive in dub, dressing like Jon Voight in same movie optional

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:29 (twelve years ago) link

NOT OPTIONAL. MANDATORY

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

who will play ratso

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

i have not seen this movie except in parts, sweaty parts with voight and an aul wan that boded ill for the rest of it

truth fromgbs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

i do have a brother that could play a ginger ratso type tho

truth fromgbs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

no i think i naively thought "each day will make this a little easier", not "i will be okay for a week or two and then i'll go to bits again, repeat ad nauseam"

i was pretty sure the latter would be the case, and that didn't make it any more pleasant.

if it makes you feel any better, the week or two will eventually become a month or two

sarahell, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

x-post
"Faith and begorrah, I'm walking heerrrrr, I'm walking heerrrr."

nickn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

when i, or indeed anyone i know irl, say 'begorrah', it is- and i mean 100%- imitating a non-hibernian

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago) link

Playin' to the (US) crowd.

nickn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link

how can i argue with that the week of paddy's day

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:35 (twelve years ago) link

begorrah and faith, base your european hq's here please

deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link

Bringing a lilting brogue to your impersonal call-centres!

Rasto was based off Dustin the Turkey IIRC.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

Ratso, even.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

I misread that as
Rasto was basted off Dustin the Turkey IIRC.

mh, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:16 (twelve years ago) link

she was just sad cos she knew it must have taken me some courage to ask and she knew it wasn't the right thing for her.

Just this line alone seems so insightful and true that I feel like you're ahead of 80% of humans already, NV. I've got nothing but respect for you.

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

Court date on 4-11, OFFICIALLY DIVORCED. FUCK YES.

thebingo, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link

HIGH FIVES ALL AROUND

mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link

truckin! otm!

are u still seeing your same lady?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:37 (twelve years ago) link

Still seeing Philly. Going to Puerto Rico with her next Saturday for a week...love i tell ya.

thebingo, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

outstanding!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:54 (twelve years ago) link

Wish I'd seen this thread last year...

Almost a year after the fact, I'm feeling roughly 150% less interested than I did immediately after getting unceremoniously dumped in getting involved with anyone or even dating again. I'm legitimately starting to wonder if the interest will ever resurface or if I'll ever feel like I could trust someone enough to bother. Meh. At least I'm not miserable anymore!

Sam Handwiches (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 22 March 2012 01:10 (twelve years ago) link

Deric, your situation is totally normal.

sarahell, Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:41 (twelve years ago) link

by that I mean, an ok healthy response to have, esp. if the relationship was pretty intense/long-term

sarahell, Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link

otm

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, it takes a lot longer than people will admit

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link

and you are definitely gonna feel more like getting into a relationship right after being dumped -- okay, not everyone, but a lot of people are -- because there's that rebound anxiety and desperation.

sarahell, Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:53 (twelve years ago) link

humans suck, get a cat or dog

mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

DIVORCED!

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Thursday, 12 April 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

congrats!

markers, Thursday, 12 April 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

woo hoo!

mh, Thursday, 12 April 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link

DING!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 April 2012 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

:-)

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 12 April 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link

welcome back to freedom!

congrats....

everything else is secondary (Lee626), Friday, 13 April 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

Friend last night: How are you missing all these hot rock dudes checking you out?? [lists]
Me: I forgot how to notice if people are attracted to me.

does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Monday, 16 April 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

It's like being 14 again, shit.

does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Monday, 16 April 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

<3

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 16 April 2012 02:57 (twelve years ago) link

i had a similar thing happen to me a few months ago when i first started going back out again. then all of a sudden i felt like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okpCx87orOA

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 16 April 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link

DId someone break your pussy finger?

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

some assholes almost did

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link

On my way to a divorce after a 12 year relationship, we've slowly drifted apart and there's little animosity between us, so it's relatively good on that front. However, I was crap at finding girlfriends before we met, so not sure how much hope I have when I'm ready to think about looking again.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:27 (eleven years ago) link

Aw, I'm sorry to hear that, Chewbs. :-(

But, trying to say this in the most non-creepy way possible: you're lovely, you're hott, and you have great taste in music. I'm sure that girlfriends will be sourced relatively easily when / if you feel like doing so again.

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Sunday, 29 April 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

Ahh, thanks K, that's sweet.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

Why is it considered creepy (especially on ilx) to tell someone directly that they're attractive, etc.? There are several female ilxors that I'd most definitely ask out if we lived in the same place. ilx is overflowing with attractive people, male and female!

I guess it's a thin line between admiring and cruising, though.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

So… any female ilxors living near Newcastle upon Tyne? ^_-

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

now that's how to do it

mh, Monday, 30 April 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link

congrats to all the newly single people! it's great out here, isn't it!?

homosexual II, Monday, 30 April 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

a year-and-a-few months later and i'm still up till dawn and later rehashing why she's bullshit and how the hell was i so naive and foolish to stay with her. the first year was great - exactly what you'd want in a relationship. then she got sick - no sex for 6 months, severely strict diet (no going out to restaurants/bars) - and i stuck around cause i thought it was the right thing to do, because the first year showed that something worthwhile was still possible. but i got nothing out of it. we could have sex again but it was still problematic and never the same. then the winter blues sets in and she wants out. a week later she's sleeping with her high school friend who had showed up in town a month earlier. people saw them out, she was eating regular food, smoking weed, having fun - none of which seemed possible when we were together. the majority of the relationship revolved around what she couldn't do but it was my first serious relationship and i had no precedent. so much regret and bitterness for having wasted so much time doing what i thought was the right thing only to be summarily dismissed.

i want to rip apart time and space to remove those two years from existence. i want my mind to be rid of this cognitive dissonance. i want to plainly see that it is a beautiful day and that there are some gorgeous girls in this town. today i'm going to hike into the woods for a few hours, see where that gets me.

shaane, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

Do it. If you can, tell friends to not tell you ANYTHING about this person, not what she looks like, is doing, who she is with, etc. Cut off contact with those who can't resist. I very much understand that you had to stick with it at the time and it was good of you to do so despite hardships, but when it comes down to it, things did not work when those were removed. Or she used you during her downtime and dropped you when she was better.

Don't regret what you did -- you were trying to be a good person, and did a good thing, whether that is acknowledged or not. The sad thing is that the things we do for people do not necessarily pan out, but know that you did something good in the world -- and if you look for it, out there, the world will provide for you in some different way.

Also, a year on, therapy could be a good idea.

mh, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

For what it's worth, on another note, I stuck with someone for much, much longer than I should have and bailed out at what could have been her lowest point. Honestly, I wish I'd left much earlier, but the side effect is that there has not been one moment that I regret ending that relationship, years ago. Just be thankful that your life didn't turn to shit before you were able to get out.

mh, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

Don't regret what you did -- you were trying to be a good person, and did a good thing, whether that is acknowledged or not. The sad thing is that the things we do for people do not necessarily pan out, but know that you did something good in the world -- and if you look for it, out there, the world will provide for you in some different way.

100% otm. and i would second the therapy recommendation if this is still causing you so much anguish more than a year on.

if i added up the days/weeks/months/years i wasted on awful terrible guys, i would probably be mortified. it's done, and i regret most of it, but i can't undo any of it. to sit around feeling miserable about it for the rest of your life is like letting that person/s, who treated you horribly, win.

just1n3, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

hiking in the woods OTM.

♆ (gr8080), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

^^^^

I misread it as hiding in the woods and was going to otm it

hiking's okay too

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 June 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link

thanks yall for being so kind. i feel much more calmed down and a bit better. only a few hours sleep had me on edge. your extra perspective is great. the hike was excellent and overgrown and i got dive-bombed by some swallows and my head was clear for a bit. therapy is a good call. more hiking is a good idea too.

shaane, Thursday, 14 June 2012 02:22 (eleven years ago) link

yes, yes it is.

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 14 June 2012 03:27 (eleven years ago) link

I am more of an urban hiking dude and like going to an unfamiliar city, works too

mh, Thursday, 14 June 2012 04:41 (eleven years ago) link

the unfamiliar is key. dissociation from the regular, stressful environ and all that. i always overlook it.

shaane, Thursday, 14 June 2012 06:53 (eleven years ago) link

I find just walking at night in general can be enlivening, especially if you have a gorgeous view of a full moon/stars or some lovely city lights on water to eyeball. Freezing weather a bonus if not wet: snaps the mind into nothing but "dear god its cold".

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 14 June 2012 07:08 (eleven years ago) link

* You left everything messier than you found it.
* You dropped bigoted and sexist terms comfortably, for emphasis, and insisted it didn't make you a bigot or a sexist.
* You're a prescription drug addict who abuses pills, no matter what your doctor says.
* You refused to dance, ride a bike, go in the water, or get sand on you.
* You have an STD that, while statistically almost impossible to pass on, you should have warned me about up front, and when the info came out you said you thought I would have known from your blog.
* You couldn't make conversation with my friends without making everything about you and your rock star past, all the time, and you talk too slowly and boringly to keep anyone's attention unless they're being very, very polite.
* Sleep: you would do it 20 hours a day.
* I'm still not sure you didn't purposefully NOT take your anti-seizure med on my birthday, forcing me to leave my party in an ambulance and spend all night in the ER with you, for which I got no flowers and barely any thanks.
* In the end, I found out that if I didn't give you attention 94/7, you would get it elsewhere by any means, positive or negative.

And since burning bridges is your reason for living, let me just burn this one for you: don't come back, you lying shithead.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 25 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, fuck THAT guy! Congratulation, Laurel. But now I'm wondering which std is statistically almost impossible to pass on?

how's life, Monday, 25 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

* You have an STD that, while statistically almost impossible to pass on, you should have warned me about up front, and when the info came out you said you thought I would have known from your blog.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! x forever

Wow, I hate him.

carl agatha, Monday, 25 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

smdh at this guy. curb is the correct place for him--KUDOS LAUREL.

quincie, Monday, 25 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

although OK I have to admit I am now a little curious about this BLOG good god.

quincie, Monday, 25 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

For real, you can sleep sprawled out comfortably knowing you did the right thing, Laurelita.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 25 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

I sort of made that list and put it up to remind myself/solidify all the reasons that FUCK THIS GUY, because for a few hours yesterday I was like, "Well, if he came back with some life resolutions and having done some soul-searching, we could repair this...."

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 25 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

I will sleep in my MADE bed with the covers folded neatly across from me and my pillows perfectly arranged, and NO ONE WILL WAKE ME UP OR MOVE ANYTHING until I wake up the next morning. Thank god.

Although I have to admit that with this one, the sleeping entwined was better than ever before, if it was always that good I wouldn't hate it so much.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 25 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

Dear Laurel: please let me know where I can find this douchebag so I can kick his teeth in.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 25 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

Oh man, Laurel. Sure there's some stuff on that list that would be workable on, but there are a bunch of out-and-out dealbreakers. You're far too good for this douche.

emil.y, Monday, 25 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

xpost lol, I don't even use the term 'douche' very often, but the women of ilx are in agreement: he's a douche.

emil.y, Monday, 25 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, some of those things weren't deal-breakers as long as there were other benefits...and I wouldn't write someone off for having made mistakes in their past, if they had a present & future. But the evidence kept piling up until kablooey.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 25 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

Also, my friend mentioned me + bf to her hairdresser, who was from his old scene, and the stylist, like, dropped his brush and said, "GIRRRRRRRRL. How did this happen?" and dished on what he used to be like. Still is, as it turns out.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 25 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

co-signing on douchebag status

do we have a rubber stamp or something? we need to make this official

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

So glad it's over, this guy doesn't deserve you.

Lee626, Monday, 25 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, fuck that guy! you're much, much better off, it sounds like.

on a much less significant note - where does 94/7 come from? is it autocorrected from 24/7 on ILX?

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 25 June 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

It's an old DC ilx joek, pretty sure.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 25 June 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

I think it's because I DIED used to DJ at a club, outside of which you had to stand to smoke, and the awning to the business next door had the address 947 or something, and someone's eye caught it and rolled it into a drunk joke one night, and it stuck.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 25 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

xpost ah, i see!

You refused to dance, ride a bike, go in the water, or get sand on you.

i feel like you can only refuse to do these 2 of these 4, and that's being lenient. 3 or more is completely unacceptable.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 25 June 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, I forgot one:

At any event you went to, you would find at least one person who angered you so much that you'd spend the whole night threatening to fight them, but where only I could hear you. I think this was supposed to impress me and/or make me worry all night that you were unhappy and liable to cause damage.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

That really is the cherry on the dungpile - sounds like the right decision was made all right.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 25 June 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

whoa. fuck that guy indeed.

JuliaA, Monday, 25 June 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

oh no. THAT guy.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't even told you about the time I was at a show, getting happily drunk and FINALLY enjoying the last band to go on, and he came barreling out of the bathroom and said he was just jumped by two people and we had to leave right away because he had knocked them out in the men's room and we should be gone before they came out. I went back in and paid our tab, then walked out to find him, hands cut up and dripping blood.

Once home, I went to the kitchen to get ice for his hands and came back to find him on the floor, having apparently had another seizure and asking me to call an ambulance. So BACK to the hospital we went, to really, really bad results. That night was actually the start of the downhill slide.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

that man is a fuck

indian rope trick (remy bean), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

see, usually when someone jumps you, even if you defend yourself, don't you call the cops or something? sheesh

mh, Monday, 25 June 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, he is a dumb stupid. good on you for being awesome throughout the relationship – it doesn't sound like easy chops, and you were like 900x more than he deserved

indian rope trick (remy bean), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

Oh God Laurel, my last bf displayed about 50% of these tendencies and even half-dose was infuriating. Sleep, no fun exertions, anger, hidden dodgy past I found out about on a blog...

ljubljana, Monday, 25 June 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

i couldn't really tell from the BP thread what was up with this dude, but shit. crazy!

goole, Monday, 25 June 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

yeah yr reasons seem pretty clearcut, L.

onwards and upwards!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

oh Laurel, this guy is a piece of work, and I am glad it won't be you that has to do that work any more. best wishes!

put a fillyjonk on it (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

ugh, laurel i didn't know it was this bad. i was in the path of the seizure on your birthday and it was pretty scary in a "why is this person knocking me over and kicking me?" way and of course once i realized what was happening also scary - sorry it sounds like that was a regular occurence :(

glad he is kicked to the curb. let's get "boys are jerks" drinks soon.

john zorn has ruined klezmer for an entire generation (bene_gesserit), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

oh and for good measure, i am over my breakup too. like so totally.

john zorn has ruined klezmer for an entire generation (bene_gesserit), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

Awesome! I'm glad for you, bell. Let's hang out, possibly the weekend after this one! I'll be away for this one.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

sounds good!

john zorn has ruined klezmer for an entire generation (bene_gesserit), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

Laurel, wow. Fuck this guy.

chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

Sleep, no fun exertions, anger, hidden dodgy past I found out about on a blog...

Okay, now I'm really curious!!

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

I will take it to 77...

ljubljana, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 03:19 (eleven years ago) link

oh, man, Laurel, i had no idea. good riddance; everyone and you otm.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 04:05 (eleven years ago) link

ok NOW i want to get on 77

john zorn has ruined klezmer for an entire generation (bene_gesserit), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't seen anything, ljub...??

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link

wishing you the tidiest of bedcovers going fwd laurel

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

Ack!!

homosexual II, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

But now I'm wondering which std is statistically almost impossible to pass on?

how's life, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

wishing you the tidiest of bedcovers going fwd laurel

double-edged sword

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

well, then, hoping that the next duvet-musser isn't a complete asshole, i guess

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

wow, L, i'm so glad you saw fit to kick this one to the curb asap and wash your hands of him
<3 you

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

Hep-C, for the curious.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

It's not really an STD I guess, since it's almost impossible to get it that way, but for the purposes of my having been put at risk unknowingly it's p much the same.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

Fair enough, thank you. I hadn't really thought about that as an STD. I have a few friends who have it, but I presumed they all got it through drug use.

the dave cool channel you are supposed to watch (how's life), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

Bingo.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

unmentioned STIs I have blogged

blossom smulch (schlump), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

You know, speaking of duvet mussing, what do boys have against sheets??? I haven't met one in...ever? that used a top sheet. Hardly ever. WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE THAT THEY WANT TO SLEEP UNDER DIRTY DUVETS?

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

I never use a top sheet but I wash the duvet/duvet cover once a week.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

I am iffy on duvets and sleep above a fitted sheet and below a top sheet and light blanket

mh, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

also if the sheet and blanket aren't tucked under the end of the bed I get fussy

mh, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

Oh my god you're like the Brigadoon of men.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

If the sheet and blanket ARE tucked in it makes me want to die.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

Laurel you must be talking about a comforter that you don't wash, right? Cause I change the fitted sheet and duvet cover once a week making a top sheet just an extra nuisance imo.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

I don't mean don't wash ever - just less frequently.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

i wish i had dishy stuff about my breakup but it's more like nerd gripes. "-you claim there are no good sci-fi writers besides borges (EYE ROLL) even though you haven't even read much sci-fi besides dumb cyberpunk, despite me frequently recommending and offering to lend you stuff you would have liked. p.s. neal stephenson blows."

john zorn has ruined klezmer for an entire generation (bene_gesserit), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

My husband conditioned ME into the top sheet - I was a comforter sleeper (would wash it monthly or so. I was gross, but only just so..)
I like a good tuck but don't bother all the time. If it's too tight it hurts my toes (I am the most delicate of flowers, clearly)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

xp LOL b_g you're amazing. Good fights! (I have no opinion on this)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

I literally cannot sleep in a bed with tucked in covers. The first thing I do at a hotel is untuck all the bedding. I need my feet exposed.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

b_g fyi I would like to meet you privately in the parking lot to discuss matters re Neal Stephenson

<3

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

top sheet- yes
tucked in- please
made perfectly every morning- naaaa

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

top sheet yes
tucked in always
bed made...meh, it's nice when I change the sheets but I don't require it otherwise. I'm really only ever in my bedroom to sleep. If I spent more time in there reading or whatnot I would def make my bed.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

My god you tucked in people are all crazy. It gets so hot and stuffy!! The only thing worse would be if you said you wore socks in addition to tucking. AHHHHHHHHHHHH!

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I hate tucked-in as well, feel like i'm TRAPPED

kinder, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

I have to start out tucked in and cozy, so that I may throw the sheets about in my sleep when I warm up

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

thread to get over a tuckin

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

yanks in 'needing to turn the heat off at night' shocker

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

trapped, or comfortably snug?

mh, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

My god you tucked in people are all crazy. It gets so hot and stuffy!! The only thing worse would be if you said you wore socks in addition to tucking. AHHHHHHHHHHHH!

yes! i feel this way. i cannot have the end of anything be tucked in anywhere while sleeping and must kick it free before i can even think about relaxing in bed.

rayuela, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

tucked-in is the only way to ensure the blankets will be laying evenly across your body when you pull them tight! savages.

mh, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

y'all need bedding suspenders

Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

if you don't tuck the top sheet in it will become wrapped around your body as the night progress leading to mummification

that's why Love made the weirdos (brownie), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

brownie otm -- untucked is wrong, bad, evil

Biff Wellington (WmC), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

Rayuela otm. As mentioned earlier I don't use a top sheet but I'd be OK with it if it did. I usually sort of sleep with them covers wrapped around me 1/2 in 1/2 out anyway.

I am surprised at the number of tuckers. I am also near certain we've had this conversation before and think I may even recall WMC admitting to wearing socks?

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

I like to fold the topsheet over the comforter when I pull it up under my chin, and if the sheet isn't tucked in it slides around and annoys me and I hate having part of me covered with sheet and part of me covered with comforter and there is SCIENCE here, these things must be in place or it's sleep anarchy!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

thread to get over bedding

pvmic bellvm (goole), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks, Grady.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

i had no idea that tucking was so popular. i was always mystified by what I had been interpreting as some sort of hotel bedding convention that made no sense and was only in place for appearance sake!

rayuela, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

how do your feet not feel all compressed up in the bottom corner of the bed? this i madness.

pvmic bellvm (goole), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

x-psot - Me neither! Being tucked in is such an awful feeling to me that I'm genuinely surprised by the number of tuckers.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

i wish i could grow up enough to make my bed in the morning - not to tuck but just to lay the duvet cover flat (i do not tuck or use a topsheet) but i don't see this ever happening.

john zorn has ruined klezmer for an entire generation (bene_gesserit), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

I do wear socks at night in the coldest winter months. I radiate a crazy amt of body heat everywhere except through my feet.

My feet don't get forced into uncomfortable positions in bed because I sleep on my side and because I leave enough slack in the bedcovers at the foot of the bed to allow my feet to move.

Biff Wellington (WmC), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

do you guys sleep on your back and have your feet sticking straight up?

mh, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

interesting technique, WmC

pvmic bellvm (goole), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

i sleep any goddam way i feel like and my covers obey

pvmic bellvm (goole), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

not to tuck but just to lay the duvet cover flat (i do not tuck or use a topsheet) *high five*

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

The days I manage to lay the duvet cover flat and reposition the pillows are good days. It feels better when I get home. Doesn't happen every day though.

I sleep on my stomach with my arms under my pillow. One leg straight, one bent.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

alternatively you can sleep with your head under the tucked side and your feet hanging out the other

mh, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

I sleep on my stomach with my arms under my pillow

i kinda do this but usually one of my arms will go to sleep before i do

pvmic bellvm (goole), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

maybe i'm crap at sleeping, idk

pvmic bellvm (goole), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

I wake up with my hands asleep pretty often. :/

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

I sleep sort of on my stomach with my head turned to the side, and often end up with one or both hands under my chest...often get awoken by 'dead hand' fuzziness

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

I'd get one of those body pillows for spooning but I'd probably end up with one that elbowed me in the face

mh, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

Head to the side, yes. I don't, like, face plant into the pillow.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

yeah there's asleep and there's double super comatose oh god i've really paralyzed my own limb this time asleep

pvmic bellvm (goole), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

if anyone wants to know my bedsheet/duvet situation, just let me know

♆ (gr8080), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

gr80 i was just about to ask you

pvmic bellvm (goole), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

y'all need bedding suspenders

If there were a way to run elastic under the mattress that would hold my top sheet taut and keep it from ever moving, don't think I wouldn't get some.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

so interesting, everyone sleeping in beds and all

♆ (gr8080), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

I'll go break up with my husband (for wearing socks while sleeping, natch) to keep this threadcount on track for you gr80

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

geez, all the 'good' stuff was hidden by the sheets discussion.

refused to dance, ride a bike, go in the water, or get sand on you.

well, I can't do 2 of these.

Anyway, L, just let me vet the next one early on.

(and by 'vet" I don't necessarily mean "spay")

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

if only we all had the convenience to have our dates vetted by Morbs

mh, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

I'm genuinely surprised by the number of tuckers

^^^ I don't understand this phenomenon either. It must be like sleeping in a straitjacket?

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

I just tuck the end, not the sides! sheesh

mh, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

I couldn't even stand having the end tucked.

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

Wait that sounds like something else.

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

Morbs! You would only let me date Mets fans!

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

just not a bunch of mothertuckers.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

- I like having my feet covered.
- Tucking the end (not the sides) of the sheet ensures foot coverage.

Biff Wellington (WmC), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

Bedding layout doesn't seem to matter, no matter how neatly the bed is made, the other person always winds up with all the covers by the morning.

Lee626, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

Try using separate sheets; works for my husband and me.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

what happened to this thread?

sarahell, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

sheet hit the fan

that's why Love made the weirdos (brownie), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

We're all three sheets to the wind.

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

I miss a top sheet - since the lady, it's been duvet's only, one for me one for her. I could get a sheet out only for the half the week that she doesn't stay here, but to be honest I don't even make the bed (fold the duvets in half lengthways, put all the pillows at the head of the bed) unless she's coming up.

I go to sleep face sideways / belly down, and wake in any of several poses - though if I'm on my back then I'm probably being elbowed awake for snoring.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/gWVzh.gif

♆ (gr8080), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

top sheet, untucked, no comforter/duvet except for one or two months a year
with current spooning partner, I'm actually uncovered most of the night when she stays but she radiates enough heat that it doesn't matter

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

With the mr. out of town, I have re-discovered that I am, in fact, the world's tidiest sleeper. I climb out of bed after eight hours having barely disturbed the sheets and coverlet; I make the bed in one motion with a single hand. When the bed has dual occupancy, it is another story altogether.

quincie, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

yes but gr080 do you tuck your sheets in or not

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link

I must confess I wasn't even sure what a top sheet *was*. Duvets only, thanks.

(NB: I might only be posting this because I find annoying gr80 a little amusing)

emil.y, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

Post that effortlessly sum up ILX.. ;) I can harp on about anything when it's comically annoying someone!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link

you know you're doing something right when you get a gr080 facepalm

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

With the mr. out of town, I have re-discovered that I am, in fact, the world's tidiest sleeper. I climb out of bed after eight hours having barely disturbed the sheets and coverlet; I make the bed in one motion with a single hand.

Come live with me and be my love, and we will all the duvets prove. Why aren't there more of us? Sleeping through the night would be so much easier.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

"I've spent so many years teaching them how to live, and they're arguing about...duvets???" xp

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link

lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

When it is hot as hell, what do duvet-only sleepers do? No cover on the bed?

mh, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

I used to do that when I didn't use topsheets.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

x-post - In the AC.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link

i use a lighter blanket. also i'm not that sensitive to heat and unless it's inhumanly hot, i don't mind having the duvet with me (i am never 100% under the blanket, usually part of me is under it, part of me is over it, etc.)

rayuela, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link

I live in the UK. It's never *that* hot.

emil.y, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link

Well this thread got weird.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

threadcount to get over a breakup

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

A+

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

xp to Laurel: you are welcome in my bed any time! I pity the fool who has to flop around like a fish on land ALL NIGHT.

quincie, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

i'm 100% with laurel, i can't sleep if there's a twisted or flappy sheet annoying my fusspot princess and the pea feet.

― estela, Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:23 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^from the last time we discussed this and for all the next times as well.

estela, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

my feet stick out over the edge of the bed; if the top sheet isn't tucked i end up with it coming up to cover me from knee or thigh to neck, which is not ideal.

to those who feel trapped: you don't need to pull the sheet up hardcore; allow your wee little feet some sheet slack!

btw this post is relevant to this thread because my wife was a feet-be-freeper and now i am able to stave off such entropy amongst my sheets.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link

My feet also stick out over the edge (thus footboards make me IA), but mookie is 100% correct that you can have a nice, non-binding slackness that nevertheless keeps things tidy. You untuckers are a bunch of disgusting savages btw.

quincie, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:44 (eleven years ago) link

otm footborads are the worst

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

OK well the mr. (taller than I though not as tall as you) have a footboard, but it is a sleigh-style thing so there is a big gap between the foot of the mattress and the board, otherwise dude we would soooo not be married.

quincie, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link

Mine stick out too but a huge part of it for me is that I don't want my feet covered! Unless it's very cold then I like them out. The rest of me can be covered (though half often isn't) but I hate hot feet.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link

Socks in the bed give me NIGHTMARES (as in fever-type too hot dreams), but icicle feet are perhaps worse :(

quincie, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link

haha my ex wanted a nice grownup bed but the only ones she liked had footboards. so at least we avoided that boondoggle

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link

stick a foot out the side dammit

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link

xxxxxxxxxxxxxp

Laurel, I couldn't face posting the sitch on 77 so I webmailed you instead!

ljubljana, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link

My dreams of 50-people-in-a-bed promo shots for ILX the sitcom grow more faint...

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 05:39 (eleven years ago) link

Usually prefer a tucked-in sheet and some sort of cover or duvet; that said, there's something alluring about spooning or otherwise being entwined with no covers at all so you can see each other.

Lee626, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTt9VFX3BPs

♆ (gr8080), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00841ZSPE/

mh, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

whoa

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

genius!

pvmic bellvm (goole), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

bah - that's dumb

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

potential advertising slogan: 'get blown in bed'

Jeff Goldblum is watching you, pope! (snoball), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

that would piss me off.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

listen nobody say anything else about their fucking sheets because I swear to God if I have to hear Grady complain to me about derailing this thread once more off board I'm going to start stabbing myself with a pencil or something

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

what if we knew who he was complaining to and are perpetuating this for just that reason? :)

mh, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

Then you're all just assholes.

Anyway, the kibosh, I am putting it on that topic for my own sanity and personal safety. I thank you for your cooperation.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

but! the sheets! we have to discuss...the tucking, and the things of that nature!

;_;

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

lets talk about spicy food now- who likes it? i cant really take anything spicier than tabasco, myself.

♆ (gr8080), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

xxp Or you could tell him to stop whining to you. Just saying.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

I think the thing I find most amusing about complaining about this thread being derailed is that, unless you are wanting to use it for its original purpose, essentially what you're saying is "SHUT UP AND BE MORE MISERABLE, ILXORS".

emil.y, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, he's just doing it on purpose because I'm easy to rile up and he knows it. I'm not actually mad. I told him to can it though, don't worry.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

i am resisting posting any of insights i gained when i went to bed last night

rayuela, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

hot sauce pretty good way to get over a breakup really, replaces emotional pain with physical stimulation. don't put it near the genitals, though

mh, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

i dreamt that you and i still lived together and you had invited your mom and grandparents to stay with us without telling me

you were passive aggressive as usual

so glad you are more-or-less out of my life!

sarahell, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

We were supposed to be back together
and going to Barcelona next month to celebrate
I sent you a link to a nice little rental
You didn't answer
That was Saturday
you git

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

I pity the fool who has to flop around like a fish on land ALL NIGHT.

this is a very apt description of me! anyone know how I can train myself out of it? srs.

this is on-topic because it may lead to my next breakup, or something

also, Zora :(

put a fillyjonk on it (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

yeah Z that rlly sucks

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

Is this Goblin Boy? Dude is seriously just not worth your time any more. This is a recurrent theme with him, the whole "can't make time for simplest of relationship things" thing. Curb, kick. Douche.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

x2 on last few posts. Also yes, as much as I like beds and bedding, let's not drift off-topic. This may well be the most important thread on all of ILX....

Lee626, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

so to sum up

the best way to get over a breakup is to spend an inordinate amount of time talking about personal peccadilloes and annoyances online, preferably ilx

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

can't think of a better way atm

Lee626, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

not to be mean, VG, but you on this thread is like when Helena Bonham Carter's character in Fight Club insists on going to the testicular cancer support group.

sarahell, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

awesome thanks

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

jesus christ

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

don't say 'not to be mean', just say what you want to say because it inevitably feels mean and now I'm embarrassed thanks

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah WCC this is GB. Luckily I have too much other crap going on to waste time angsting about the enormous pile of fail that is our relationship, I actually only just realised how much time has passed since I sent the link. So... over in my heart, at last? Perhaps.

I am a non-tucker, feet-out, flip like a fish type person. I'm probably hell to share with, but I love spooning, so I will happily inflict my hot flipping self on bed-partners.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

lots of people post in this thread who aren't in the midst of a break-up

just1n3, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

no need to single out vg and be an asshole about it

just1n3, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

sorry - she/you just kept posting about sleeping habits after everyone else stopped, it felt kinda compulsive - i dunno.

sarahell, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

i sleep with lots of blankets when it's cold, not so many when it's hot

Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

i don't have a breakup to get over

Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

Matt P - you are one of my favorite posters

sarahell, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

i can still get 'boys are jerks' drinks some time fyi

Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

I think the non-broken hearted can be here to support the breaker-uppers, it seems fine to me, not that I even know which camp I fall into, mind.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

you are one of mine too! we should get boys are jerks drinks some time xp

Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

I think the non-broken hearted can be here to support the breaker-uppers, it seems fine to me, not that I even know which camp I fall into, mind.

well of course, it's just the long chit-chatty mundane personal habits derail that bugged me

sarahell, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

dead horse whatever but: I was doing it as a joke bcs gr8080 was annoyed.
my sense of "humor" is deeply rooted in "5 year old banging on pots" territory so I get how it might not seem funny to anyone but me. I didn't think I was alone in doing it, but whatever.

I don't have a breakup compulsion, or a sheet compulsion. I really hate that movie though, fyi :)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't think I was alone in doing it, but whatever.

no - indeed not - and for that you have my deepest apologies

sarahell, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

no worries!

"and...scene"

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

*posts about a breakup*

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 21 July 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

;_;

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 July 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

Balls, sorry to hear that.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 22 July 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

man, even after about 9 months after the breakup, and after several months with someone new that i really like, every so often a memory will hit me out of nowhere and it's so painful to think about. thankfully these surprise moments of agony are getting fewer and farther between, but they never really go away, do they?

you're all going to hello (Z S), Friday, 27 July 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

no

but they become less frequent, and less intense over time

Lee626, Friday, 27 July 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

dude, 9 months is still pretty soon - esp. considering you were with your ex for what, 6 years?

sarahell, Friday, 27 July 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

in that respect i don't think 9 months is a very long time. like it isn't even 9 months, it's almost only 9 months. the way you get close to someone is preverbal & animalistic, & them not being close anymore is such a big change. & parting is just the saddest thing. so that's there. but you end up somewhere different & it's a different time, the sad time is past. still sad but maybe easier to 'consult' without trauma.

+ drake.jpg

, Blogger (schlump), Friday, 27 July 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think i wanna post itt much but should just flag up that iirc sarahell posted something here once to the effect of "3-6 months is the hardest part" & this was super, savingly comforting to me - not even in the specifics, but just in contradicting the idea that one should have an incrementally, narratively easier time after a breakup

, Blogger (schlump), Friday, 27 July 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

so thank you man

, Blogger (schlump), Friday, 27 July 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

i think it's comforting to think that hard stuff now, or i guess maybe just right now in general, will literally always fade with time, you can basically count on it..

Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Friday, 27 July 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

imagine getting over your wisdom teeth operation in 20-30 minutes, you're at 25 minutes right now which isn't so bad

the late great, Friday, 27 July 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

next time your heart aches go get your wisdom teeth taken out, will give you some perspective

, Blogger (schlump), Friday, 27 July 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

wise man once said the best cure for a heartbreak is a punch inna face

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link

hey z s

caek, Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

u cool

caek, Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

ZS ime they do go away but it takes a bunch of years...maybe 3-5? i think it correlates with life changing over time and you eventually get to the point where your life is so diff you cant even imagine how that person could fit into it. After that its mostly good, nostalgic type memories and the bad memories dont hurt at all.

Cussing like a bunch of Bukowskis (sunny successor), Sunday, 29 July 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

part of the problem is that after a while i forget the bad things and only remember the good things, and then i think maybe we shouldn't have broken up.

if i were otherwise growing as a person perhaps it would be different, but in fact i am shrinking (figuratively)

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

trying to remember the smallscale everyday texture of old relationships is difficult

, Blogger (schlump), Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

oh, thanks for the kind advice everyone. i didn't mean to make things seem worse than they are. i'm ok. and i still remember the bad things along with the good. i'm better off now, and so is she.

you're all going to hello (Z S), Sunday, 29 July 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

You saved me from a feeling of total non-existence, and I finally realised I was capable of feeling actual love towards a specific person. I guess these things will stand me in good stead sometime down the line but right now this is the worst I've ever felt ;_;

useless chamber, Thursday, 16 August 2012 10:42 (eleven years ago) link

:-/ i'm sorry. did it just happen?

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

No, it's been about 6 weeks now. I seem to be in a horrible weekly cycle of feeling kinda down-but-sorta-alright, then having some sort of moment of realisation of the awfulness of the situation and sinking into a trough of despond and then being kinda-ok again. The size of the troughs seems to be getting bigger with time, which I don't like. I guess at some point they'll start to recede again.

useless chamber, Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

I guess one helpful thing is just to know that it's normal to have the troughs, and it's normal to feel like you're finally emerging out of the terribleness, only to have it slam you down again, twice as hard. It's probably not too nice to hear "you will be sad about this again! and again! and then again!", but for me it was helpful because I needed to know that I wasn't a total failure for not being able to get over it and move on more quickly. Staying active helps, too (not that I follow my own advice on that).

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks Z S

Actually just off to meet up with her now. I think we need to clear the air a bit; I've been stewing in my own paranoia for too long, dwelling on things that probably never existed.

useless chamber, Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

good luck!

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

That kind of went ok. We cleared up some things that were troubling me, and they maybe weren't things I wanted to hear necessarily, but I guess it's sorted things out in my head a bit. I accidentally went on a 20mile bike ride afterwards where I went through a whole load of emotions. I think I'm almost at the point where we can be best friends who can laugh at a load of stuff, but I'm thinking it'll be amazing (by amazing, I mean completely devastating) if she meets someone else who can love her like i did/do.

useless chamber, Thursday, 16 August 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

One way of looking at this is that the way I've acted is pretty similar to how I treated my ex*, so I've had it coming. On the other hand I finally overcame a lot of the hang-ups I had as a result of that relationship and it still came to nothing. What now.

useless chamber, Thursday, 16 August 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link

just keep moving on don't worry about things coming to something or whatever

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 16 August 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

^^completely impractical advice for such an emotional sitch but like I think it's true maybe, and I guess what I'm trying to say is don't beat yourself up

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 16 August 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

What I meant to say is what I've been through is kind of how I treated my previous girlfriend. Not that it really matters, but maybe I shouldn't post off my ancient phone. I'll blame that for my bad communication.

That is good advice, really. It's hard to accept but I think it's just where I need to head towards.

useless chamber, Thursday, 16 August 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link

I think I'm almost at the point where we can be best friends who can laugh at a load of stuff,

why does everyone think this?

sarahell, Friday, 17 August 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think everyone does

mookieproof, Friday, 17 August 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

it's just that so many posts on this thread are like, "hey, but we're gonna just be best friends now" - and ime, that tends not to be the case

sarahell, Friday, 17 August 2012 01:03 (eleven years ago) link

i am pleased to be on friendly terms with my exes and may exchange emails periodically, but certainly we are not 'best friends'

mookieproof, Friday, 17 August 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, same here

sarahell, Friday, 17 August 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link

you gotta be your own person

the late great, Friday, 17 August 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link

Fair point. We were friends (but not super close) before we got together so it's not really like I'm desperately trying to hold on to her in any way possible. Right?

Previous relationship, we were together for 5 years, lived together for 3, and I've spoken to her maybe twice in the last year. I'm not proud of this or anything, it's awkward and I don't really know what to do about it but perhaps it's just how things go.

useless chamber, Friday, 17 August 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link

Ah, I've reminded myself of bookmarking this thread when that ended, but actually I got over that quite easily. Those were the days, when I was mostly consumed with guilt. You know where you are with guilt.

useless chamber, Friday, 17 August 2012 04:29 (eleven years ago) link

nah, you do what you need to do. i think being best friends is unlikely to work or be helpful to you, but who knows.

mookieproof, Friday, 17 August 2012 04:29 (eleven years ago) link

It can work, but I think you have to have been close friends before the relationship, and the breakup needs to have not been too ugly as well. Im v close to 2 exes, but one I had to really be away from him for a fair time before we fell back into our oldfriendship. We still only catch up maybe 1-2 times a month if that, but latelyt we've been working on music together so weve been talking more. Its good to get back to.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 17 August 2012 07:22 (eleven years ago) link

I had to really be away from him for a fair time

this is key ime

sarahell, Friday, 17 August 2012 09:01 (eleven years ago) link

nah i just meant it's important to cultivate some independent time

the late great, Friday, 17 August 2012 10:24 (eleven years ago) link

I can't stop thinking about this alternate universe where it didn't happen and there is just no way for me to imagine it being any worse than this living in a tiny box in shitty Brooklyn, lingering at work because I'm so lonely, no change in sight life I've got now.

At the same time, she is demonstrably better off, and I'm... happy isn't the right word, but I think it's a good thing and that's what I want for her.

Ow.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 24 August 2012 06:34 (eleven years ago) link

I think your probably demonstrably better off too

the late great, Friday, 24 August 2012 09:02 (eleven years ago) link

you shifted the goalposts on yourself there

the late great, Friday, 24 August 2012 09:03 (eleven years ago) link

Fuck, I loved you so fucking much and you loved me so fucking much and we wanted this to work so bad but it just didn't; I'm looking forward to being friends w/ you in the future and all but yo this shit fucking sucks, I'm out, peace

http://gifsoup.com/view4/1324222/mic-drop-charlie-murphy-o.gif

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 26 August 2012 04:56 (eleven years ago) link

oh no :(

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 26 August 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link

sorry man

mookieproof, Sunday, 26 August 2012 05:03 (eleven years ago) link

this is my first breakup btw

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 26 August 2012 05:42 (eleven years ago) link

this is not fun

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 26 August 2012 05:42 (eleven years ago) link

like I seriously cannot deal w/ this and also all of it's stupid fucking horrible no-good awful ramifications

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 26 August 2012 06:13 (eleven years ago) link

i know imaginary hugs are not much use but i'm sending you one anyway Stevie

just one little Tayto (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 August 2012 07:16 (eleven years ago) link

Me too, Stevie. <3

ljubljana, Sunday, 26 August 2012 08:18 (eleven years ago) link

:( :( Stevie

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Sunday, 26 August 2012 09:33 (eleven years ago) link

stay strong brother

the late great, Sunday, 26 August 2012 09:52 (eleven years ago) link

<3 stevie

it really will get better

the most astonishing writer on ilx (roxymuzak), Sunday, 26 August 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

past few days have been good but today was kind of awful when I realized how I now have to move everything into the category of past-tense, like "We used to go clubs and vogue wildly at each other like there was no one else in the room to notice" or "he used to laugh when I said stupid little kid things in stupid little kid voices" or "I used to smile so much when he would get rly sweet and tell me how much he loved me"

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

also the first of time actually experiencing the megacliche of missing your partner's annoying habits, like how he would snuggle w/ me in his sleep w/o realizing it and I'd move his arm off of me bcz it was like 90 degrees and it would just come flying back over my chest 3 seconds later

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:37 (eleven years ago) link

I would call all of my friends when I would randomly burst into tears and just say I'm crying I'm crying I'm crying over and over again

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:40 (eleven years ago) link

like I would call one and then another and then another, that helped me, just do whatever ridiculous things you need to do to get by, those days when shit just randomly hits your chest are hard

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't even cried yet! I just feel bummed out and like easily irritated but I actually really do want the big hysterical drama-queen Kleenex meltdown

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:46 (eleven years ago) link

but idk I have dealt w/ pretty heavy shit in life and not cried so ¯\_(o_o)_/¯

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link

sorry to hear it man. :(

post-breakup is pretty much the worst feeling ever for a few days (ok more like months in my case but i was married and there were logistical reasons that kept reminding me of it pretty much every day), tho i found that when i did manage to go out and hang with friends and have fun and forget about it for a while there was this weird crazy intensity to it, the kind of desperate-let's-have-fun-right-now feeling i expect you'd have if you were told you only had six months to live or something.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 05:42 (eleven years ago) link

being social is helping tremendously; I mean we spent almost every day together for 9mos and I was a total shut-in and now I am all about hanging out at coffee shops and going for walks and hanging out with everyone and shit.

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 05:53 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, do something you never did when you were in a relationship. You'll discover something you like that doesn't constantly remind you of him.

Lee626, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 09:54 (eleven years ago) link

Thinking of you, Stevie.

quincie, Friday, 31 August 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

So apparently someone made a fake okcupid profile of my ex with stuff that, she says, only I would know. I did not do this, and now I'm A) worried and creeped out that someone has pulled this stalkery shit and B) completely crushed that she can imagine me doing this.

I am amazed that circumstances somehow found a way to make this worse.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Monday, 3 September 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

Christ, that's terrible.

Just arrived in a new city/country and wondering whether I should jump right in, or wait to see if IRL will provide. Leaning towards waiting.

ljubljana, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry, that was an OKC reference - mistook this for the OKC thread.

ljubljana, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

wow what a shitty thing to do to someone! I'm v sorry en, that's a bad situation to have to deal with

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 September 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

Alright, she send me screenshots, my guess is that some teenager/socially-inept college kid wanted to talk to lesbian hipster girls (fake profile lists her as gay) and used her pictures and some of her essay answers. The information that only I would know, btw, is that she has a thing for James Franco, watched Buffy, and has read a handful of books that pretty much everyone who's ever mentioned James Franco and Buffy has read.

I understand that she was in identity theft panic mode, but jesus christ how did things get so far from how they should be that when something like this happens I'm a potential culprit instead of the first person she turns to for help?

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Monday, 3 September 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

Oh en, that hurts.

ms fotheringham (Crabbits), Monday, 3 September 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

jesus

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 September 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

I'm off the hook now in her mind, at least.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Monday, 3 September 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

Until she finds out her milk has spoiled, and then you be the one who was behind it.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 September 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

You must have fucked with the expiration date! How could you?

Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 September 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

ok actual lol

thank you

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Monday, 3 September 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

I'm also just horrified generally that some nutbar would make fake OKC profiles from other people's pictures and interestes WTF D:

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Monday, 3 September 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

thank christ I've been able to delete mine recently

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Monday, 3 September 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

OK so real talk, enough of my bitching and whining. How do I establish and maintain a healthy friendship with my ex? How long do I wait btwn break-up and reconnection? What are things to avoid? Things I am thinking:

-give myself at least two weeks, maybe even 3 before I reach out/talk to him again so that when I see him again it's not like "oh look my boyfriend!!"
-try to avoid cutesy/flirty/romantic type things I have done in the past; try to withhold excessive affection
-it may be really awkward the first time we hang out! But that might be inevitable and doesn't mean we should just give up

This is all speculation as I've never been in a relationship before so I've never had to deal w/ this. Tips/tricks plz!

clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

That all sounds pretty good, and advice I should've followed myself 2 months ago.

Stewart D or Raheem? (useless chamber), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

That is good real talk, although I don't think you can/should put yourself on a specific timeline. . . it may be months, or years, or never before you are ready to try a friendship.

quincie, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

Real talk: it's probably too soon to initiate anything like normal post-dating relations. I know that sucks, because even if you just want to spend some time with him because you did for so long and now you can't, it may be actually worse if you do.

When your headspace is better, I'd suggest meeting for lunch or something similarly harmless. As time passes, you'll begin seeing him as this different person. You'll remember dating him, but there will be a disconnect between that him and this him. If you try to do it too soon, though, you'll be mired in longing and sorrow and it will make reaching that point take longer and it will be a lot rougher on your heart.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

^ otm

just1n3, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

^^^^

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

yeah

2-3 weeks is really not very long at all

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

Fuck :( I miss him so much and I just want to see him/know he's doing well/etc but I suppose that is exactly why it is still way too soon

clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

awww :/, yeah. I'm sorry Stevie - it can be so hard. Take care of yourself.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

I guess asking his friends who are (or I guess were) sort of my friends how he's doing is kind of a no-no?

clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

I want to do it but then when I think abt how I would deal w/ like any possible response (he is doing well and has moved on; he is doing awful and misses you so much; etc) all of them make me super sad

clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

So my advice for me is no Steve don't do that

clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

Technically yeah it's probably a no-no and most people would advise against it. However, that's not to say that nearly everyone who has ever gone though a breakup hasn't done something similar because they totally have and it's only natural that you want to do so too.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

Just saying that you shouldn't feel bad for wanting to do that but you're right in that it's not a good idea because, really, what good could come of it?

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

it's never easy for anyone, first time or 10th time. keep advising yourself in that calm way, and that will help -- don't squash those instincts, tease them out and be your own counsel. those instincts are natural, but the best thing you can do is *not* act on them, at least for a little while. you were together for some time, there's a lot of, I dunno, muscle memory? going on.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

One of my friends just broke up with her boyfriend of nearly two years and said something about coping with breakups that may sting, but will be helpful in the long run: "I’m not saying this to sound weirdly braggy, but I’m usually pretty okay at the end of relationships, as far as freaking out goes. I mean, I’ll freak out, but I’ll do it alone, at home, and I’ll keep the phone at bay — and not because I necessarily have some superhuman willpower, but I just put myself in the other person’s shoes and really think about being on the receiving end of unwanted affection, and I don’t want to be the person someone out there is cringing about. Ugh. So I usually faithfully stick to that important no-contact phase."

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

I think knowing they have good ppl around them looking out for them makes a big difference, because it can be really heartbreaking. as long as yr not completely obsessing or freaking out over something specific I think it's good to give each other lots of space for at least a few months while you gradually readjust. meet ups where two devastated ppl try to put on brave faces to protect each other are the saddest thing in the world imo

ogmor, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

-you have a t-shirt with borat on it that said "sexytimes"
-you are 41 but more emotionally stunted than most people i've dated in their 20s
-you once took me to a "show" that was at least 50% spoken word poetry and also had an interpretive dance performance + you also like tom waits a lot = you are probably one year away from growing a soul patch and wearing fedoras, tops. i dodged a bullet here.
-you have no spine and adopted a cat you didn't want just because your ex was pressuring you to take him, and you whined to me about it a bunch and did it anyway.
-the sex was not nearly as good for me as it was for you. every time you said something like "whoa, people are not supposed to have sex that good" i secretly thought "ho hum".

john zorn has ruined klezmer for an entire generation (bene_gesserit), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

I just realized, thanks to this thread, that I've finally successfully purged my ex from my mind. It only took roughly the same amount of time we were together, but it's done. Now it just remains to be seen how long it'll take to repair all of the damage I underwent as a result of that breakup.

Old Lunch, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

Good bullet dodging there!

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

-the sex was not nearly as good for me as it was for you. every time you said something like "whoa, people are not supposed to have sex that good" i secretly thought "ho hum".

poor guy, but also poor YOU.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

he deserves this meanness (even though he will never see it), trust me.

john zorn has ruined klezmer for an entire generation (bene_gesserit), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure he does. I just meant "poor guy" in the sense that he's probably going around thinking he's good at sex when, really, he maybe isn't.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

Eh, better than the other way around.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

i'm now feeling that that is a petty low blow (though not undeserved) and replace it with:
-you had a bottle of marilyn manson's brand of absinth, "mansithe" in your cupboard, and it was nearly empty.

john zorn has ruined klezmer for an entire generation (bene_gesserit), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

I take it back. Fuck that guy.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

after what we've heard, not likely!

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

(sorry, he sounds like an absolute weenie, good riddance for real)

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

"mansinthe"!

DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

oh my god, mansinthe.

xpost

Korn can’t wait to see the Taj Mahal (crüt), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

looool i just tried to go to the mansinthe website and the google insterstitial threw up a malware warning

Newgod joins this board, and quickly he's some dude (goole), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

the weird thing was that he was SO PROUD of that bottle and showed it to me like 4 different times!! did he expect me to be impressed? no clue!

john zorn has ruined klezmer for an entire generation (bene_gesserit), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

o_@

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure absinthe is delightful and all, but most of the people I've met who are wild about it are people I'd never want to spend more than five minutes with.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

manson also recently wrote a fanfic version of johnathan franzen's novel the corrections

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

The Manrections

DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

wow, he's a real rennaissance manson

john zorn has ruined klezmer for an entire generation (bene_gesserit), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

It's funny how, from a certain angle, a laundry list of complaints about an ex can look like the ridiculously OTT traits of someone you would never in a million years consider dating. Ohhhhh, the things we tolerate.

Old Lunch, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

i think posting all this stuff effectively got me over my breakup in record time.

john zorn has ruined klezmer for an entire generation (bene_gesserit), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

I would just like to say something to you that someone said to me that was otm and it is: Girl, send that plate of shit back to the kitchen.

in orbit, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure absinthe is delightful and all, but most of the people I've met who are wild about it are people I'd never want to spend more than five minutes with.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:37 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

;_;

emil.y, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

Are you wild about it, though? Because I've talked to you a fair amount and every other conversation isn't dotted with "this one time we had absinthe and..." or "I bought some absinthe so we could...". I'm mostly talking about people who live for the stuff or would, like, buy a Marilyn Manson brand called "Mansinthe".

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

Holy crap b_g, that guy sounds like a complete tosser, I'm so sorry.

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link

Mansinthe holy shit

ms fotheringham (Crabbits), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link

I mean I am trying to have breakup empathy but wtff I just leanred thre is MANSINTHE

ms fotheringham (Crabbits), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link

My god it has been seven months and it is seriously not getting any better. Still in total disbelief that I let it fall apart.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 7 September 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link

It feels like I committed some awful crime while I was asleep, now someone keeps telling me what I did and I just keep thinking "What? NO. I could never let that happen."

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 7 September 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link

I dwelled on a particular breakup with varying degrees of intensity and through subsequent relationships for four years. You're still in good shape, imo.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 September 2012 05:10 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ it happens sometimes and it sucks

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 7 September 2012 11:01 (eleven years ago) link

^

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 7 September 2012 11:55 (eleven years ago) link

went outside to get lunch and was walking behind a 40-something couple. while waiting for a light, the woman put her hand on the man's lower back and gave it a little pat/rub/caress for a few seconds. it was no big thing, maybe even kind of absent-minded.

i really miss that a lot.

mookieproof, Monday, 10 September 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

So it'll have been a month this week and we are getting dinner on Friday and I feel like this is an okayish idea

gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 17 September 2012 03:18 (eleven years ago) link

My school of thought is that if they weren't a bastard, you respected them and vice versa, you always had plenty to talk about, *and* it seems an okayish idea in general, then go for it. Just be ready for possible searing pain the day after. The idea is that the next-day pain reduces with each meet-up. Last time I broke up with someone I had to leave it 3 months before meeting was an 'okayish idea', though.

ljubljana, Monday, 17 September 2012 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

I'm heading toward my one year "anniversary", and I'm still not even close to the point where I could have dinner and it would be normal. I mean, I could do it, but the hours afterward and the day after, the pain would be overwhelming.

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 17 September 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link

i still miss you and even when you joke on facebook about having a crush on some random minor celebrity it still stings :(

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 11:54 (eleven years ago) link

(hug)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

just learned that i am legally single again

'awesome'

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

That sucks dude, but it should be the last thing that sucks in that (legal) manner, right?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

:(

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

Life, it's so full of shit. :/

Confused Turtle (Zora), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

I hope all sad folks in here get both joyful and contented moments, and that they increase all the time.

I'm starting to feel like I've learned how to be single. The bed doesn't feel too big any more. People holding hands in the street doesn't hurt.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

thoughts to you, mookie.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 03:59 (eleven years ago) link

thank u l

mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 04:20 (eleven years ago) link

same here, love u man

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 September 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

(hugs) <3

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

I just broke up with gf and I feel awful. In summary, we'd been dating for 6 years, living together for 3 and never (ok very, very rarely) fought. We got along perfectly EXCEPT I've been having a CRUSHING anxiety when it comes to marriage and having babies. She's been incredibly patient and understanding (perhaps too much). But no matter what I do (counselling, talking to friends) the feeling doesn't go away. I convinced myself that a "break" is the only thing that might work (she's less convinced). It all happened yesterday. We are both miserable :(

daavid, Saturday, 5 January 2013 02:02 (eleven years ago) link

sounds like you will get back together and have some babies?

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Saturday, 5 January 2013 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

daavid I'm sorry, that sounds rough.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 January 2013 02:54 (eleven years ago) link

Is being a wife and mother more important to her life plan than you? Is she resenting you for it, if not outwardly, then under the surface? Six years is a long time, and it sounds like you love each other a lot, so I hope something good comes from a break.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 5 January 2013 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

i'm really sorry daavid. i was in a similar situation. eventually things get better. hang in there.

"reading specialist" (Z S), Saturday, 5 January 2013 04:35 (eleven years ago) link

Thank you all for your encouragement and support! I think I made the right (or at least the honest) decision. I've had some good long chats with friends and family and that has certainly helped. Will probably update on the situation at some point.

daavid, Saturday, 5 January 2013 08:07 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

in the last 16 months i don't think my head's moved on at all :/

on the other hand, maybe me recognising this is the first step? i feel so fucking dense, lately. ha, lately.

life went on, sadly (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 April 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

Isnt it only lately that you've started to deal with yknow other stuff tho? Thats gonna bring other things back into focus

privilege as 'me me me' (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 April 2013 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

yeah don't be too hard on yeself nv

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 April 2013 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

Someone told me once that things that mess you up--addictions, abuse situations, trauma--stop a person's maturation and personal growth and uh moor them right where they are? So when the person comes back from the addiction or trauma, they have to back up and start from that place again. You could probably make a case for saying that you COULDN'T move on until other steps happened.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Sunday, 14 April 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

i'm ok, not doing anything stupid, but i realised this last week or so i really haven't let go at all. still got that stupid "what if?" going on in the back of my head that i need to stop doing cos otherwise i'll just sit here with my wheels spinning in the mud.

so i was more wistful noting this than beating myself up, and i hope that noticing it is a good sign. and yeah, i know i'm still thawing out of drunky mode. just have an over-developed sense of time rushing by me i think.

life went on, sadly (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 April 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

apologies to those of you who know her, but i'll be posting some pretty vitriolic shit on this thread later on today.

Clay, Monday, 15 April 2013 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

shout out to anyone going through this kind of shit right now. it's been a long long while for me, but it's terrible. hang out with us on ilx though and we'll party

markers, Monday, 15 April 2013 02:00 (eleven years ago) link

it's been a long long while for me, but it's terrible.

by this i meant, i haven't had to go through this in years, but it wasn't fun when i did

markers, Monday, 15 April 2013 02:00 (eleven years ago) link

'tell me about yr fun breakups' would be a short thread, imo

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 April 2013 02:11 (eleven years ago) link

id have a few posts on it tbh

purp (roxymuzak), Monday, 15 April 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

:\ clay

乒乓, Monday, 15 April 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

pullin for u man.

乒乓, Monday, 15 April 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

thanks dude. this isn't like the worst breakup ever or anything. Just my first in a really long time, with someone I never really should have been with in the first place, and what're you gonna do but live and learn I guess.

also I am too old for this shit but turns out you're never too old for this shit.

Clay, Monday, 15 April 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

had dinner recently with someone i broke up with almost 6 years ago and i think i might finally be over it? wasn't so sure even a month or two ago.

ְ֮֠֓֟֬֩ (gr8080), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link

i think sometimes you never really "get over" the experience of the relationship, or losing the relationship, even if you get over/are no longer interested in the person you had it with.

purp (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

^^^excellent insight.

you may not like it now but you will (Zora), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 09:13 (eleven years ago) link

yeah. i think there are relationships that you never really want to get over, too. heal, obviously, but not forget and not lose some measure of pain to remind yourself that it mattered, a lot.

life went on, sadly (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 09:30 (eleven years ago) link

exactly.

purp (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

that would require some on point pain delegation.

(from a bottle you dicks) (sunny successor), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

it just kinda happens naturally

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

man the thing where at first you think you'll be 100% fine whatever movin' on up and then reality slowly reveals itself as a newly barren wastseland. where's the fast-forward button.

Clay, Thursday, 18 April 2013 03:15 (eleven years ago) link

OTM

ְ֮֠֓֟֬֩ (gr8080), Thursday, 18 April 2013 11:06 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, I'm never getting over this breakup it turns out.

Clay, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 04:02 (ten years ago) link

it takes way longer than you want it to

You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 05:54 (ten years ago) link

You'll surprise yourself someday, but not today and not this week. Go easy.

the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 05:58 (ten years ago) link

Oh no Clay I am sorry :-(

hoda nkotb (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link

Ha well I just wrote about a thousand words finally laying it all out on this thread because I've got to be emo somewhere and pressed the wrong button on zing and it disappeared. Guess I'll give it another shot tomorrow.

Clay, Monday, 29 April 2013 09:08 (ten years ago) link

half-drunk shoutouts to dayo and stevie (the latter of whom who slept in her old apartment for a few days ffs) for the positive vibes in this, probably the actual worst time in my life since idk I guess highschool sucked.

I realized a couple days ago that six years isn't a breakup, it's a divorce.

Clay, Monday, 29 April 2013 09:14 (ten years ago) link

close enough alright

the norman wisdom of gaffers (darraghmac), Monday, 29 April 2013 09:19 (ten years ago) link

cheers clay; you're a good dude. get that post up here, follow through and release, feel better afterwards

乒乓, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:08 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

when my ex went on trips without me, she would sometimes leave little love notes hidden in various places that i'd be likely to find while she was gone

i just found one in the back of my sock drawer that's several years old : /

mookieproof, Sunday, 16 June 2013 02:22 (ten years ago) link

:(

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 June 2013 02:27 (ten years ago) link

Ooof.

ljubljana, Sunday, 16 June 2013 03:46 (ten years ago) link

damn man. hugs.

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 16 June 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link

I still find shit like that every once in a while and know exactly how it feels. It sucks :-(

shohreh aja/danteloo (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 16 June 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link

that happened to me once about a year after a breakup:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x18/gr8080/note.jpg

:(

http://threeframes.net (gr8080), Monday, 17 June 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link

Jeez.

how's life, Monday, 17 June 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

A little over two years out and just found out about the requisite 'marrying the dude I got ditched for'. I feel today will be a lot of running to stand still.

shaane, Friday, 21 June 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

Good luck with handling that, shaane. Tough deal, but it sounds like you're not going to crumble.

you may not like it now but you will (Zora), Friday, 21 June 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

- eternal reminder to self to never get involved with another person who even comes close to being an alcoholic, chain-smoking, self-hating, selfish, intimacy-fearing, borderline-aspergers, unemployed punk/rock musician who loves his dog more than his girlfriend

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link

Internet hug from belgium - you rule and I + everyone on ILX <3 <3 <3 u

StanM, Sunday, 1 September 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

Oh rrrobyn! It can take some time to be sure that the person really is those things. Generous people like you probably allow a lot of time. There's an upside to that as well as the nasty downside. But yeah, good advice to self.

ljubljana, Sunday, 1 September 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link

/hugs rrobyn, and can I just jump this bandwagon and say

- eternal reminder to self to never get involved with another person who even comes close to being an alcoholic, chain-smoking, self-hating, selfish, intimacy-fearing, borderline-aspergers, unemployed punk/rock workaholic indie musician who loves his dogcar more than his girlfriend

you may not like it now but you will (Zora), Sunday, 1 September 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link

That seems like a selfish post (mine). How are you doing, rrobyn? I hope you're ok, healthily bitter like rocket, not unhealthily bitter like old lettuce.

/wave ljubljana. How are you?

you may not like it now but you will (Zora), Sunday, 1 September 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link

thanks, guys <3

not a selfish post at all, zora - it's good to know i'm not alone and that having hope in love isn't a crazy thing to possess. though i should've known... i'm not bitter really, just hurt (and feeling quite misunderstood by an irrational person). i know it's definitely good for me to not be in that relationship! i usually don't go out with people like that, at least not for that long, but i felt like there were good reasons to keep my heart way open, and so i glossed over a lot of the red flags (so many). it's complicated stuff, but whoa do i know what i really need in a relationship now (and what i really don't need) and that keeping my heart open isn't a bad thing - i just need to listen much better to what my heart/intuition tells me...

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 1 September 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link

Being misunderstood is so bloody frustrating.

/hi Zora! I'm ok. I don't really know what the hell I'm doing at the moment but I'm plodding on regardless, ready to veer off if necessary. I miss you when you don't post!

ljubljana, Sunday, 1 September 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

basically required some heavy crying followed by superb hangouts with friends followed by dancing in my livingroom to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3szM702Ofk

xp

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 1 September 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

(ironically, sung by an anxiety-ridden alcoholic... sigh.)

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 1 September 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link

hugs rrrobyn <3

and that is an A+ dancing song given the circumstances

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 September 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

mm, is there anything better than dating an irrational person who chronically misunderstands you? feelin you here. good riddance to bad rubbish imo

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Sunday, 1 September 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link

dated this dude too many times, tbh :/ and yeah, don't beat yourself up for keeping your heart open despite the red flags. it doesn't say anything bad about you.

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Sunday, 1 September 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link

<3 rrrobyn

HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 1 September 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link

<3

god yeah i really and truly hope i don't, i mean, i am just not never going to date a dude like this again
here's an awesome kicker: last night, sad and only mildly drunk and yet also sound in the knowledge that i don't need this relationship in my life yet i'm still sentimental about it and the different kinds of love/not-love that we all go through and trying to feel through that and all these ~feelings~, i posted the mtn goats "love love love" on fb. looking through fb this morning, i see in the wee hours that he posted the mtn goats "no children." yep. (argh social media whyyy)

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 1 September 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link

lol *not ever* i obv mean

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 1 September 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link

It's clear who's to blame there, but it's too late - we've lost our chance to stop the Mountain Goats.

(Also really sorry to hear this, but it looks like things'll be getting better in a post-loser world?)

(Also also you've cut the fb cord now, right?)

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 1 September 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link

avoiding the ex on fb in situations like this is key!

At least it worked for me, when I realized it was necessary and keeping that line of connection open was just more painful than not.

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Sunday, 1 September 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link

never get involved with another person who even comes close to being an alcoholic, chain-smoking, self-hating, selfish, intimacy-fearing, unemployed punk/rock musician who loves his dog drugs more than his girlfriend

Girrrrrrrl we need to stop being the same person.

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Sunday, 1 September 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link

I am sorry for u but also really happy for u! that you are out of this. Because you are SO much more.

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Sunday, 1 September 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link

don't beat yourself up for keeping your heart open despite the red flags

This is a quandary I find myself in often - nearly all of us have some sort of red flags, and ruling them out because of them would leave a tiny remaining pool of prospective partners. Not to mention nobody walking the planet would ever date me since I hemorrhage red flags.

I'm unable to be in love with someone without seeing her in the best possible light. It's when I start seeing things that aren't really there that I get in trouble. I know there's a limit to how many red flags are acceptable, but it's hard to place just where that limit should be. IME, anyone who has lived an interesting life is likely to have accumulated plenty of baggage and red flags.

Lee626, Monday, 2 September 2013 00:05 (ten years ago) link

i think we are using the term "red flags" rather differently... everyone has "flaws" and baggage they're carrying around but those are not necessarily red flags, those are just the result of being an individual with background/experiences different from your partner. a relationship includes those and accepts them in a state of open communication and a certain amount of mutual compromise. i'm using the term as something beyond {in)compatibility, as indications of certain manipulative or abusive or just generally hurtful behaviour brewing. i suppose some people can deal with those behaviours in a partner. i cannot.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:13 (ten years ago) link

no one should!

space is deep (mh), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:23 (ten years ago) link

Yeah the acceptable number of red flags is none (makes note not to go swimming or motor-car racing with Leee)

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 2 September 2013 07:37 (ten years ago) link

rrroybn, I think I meant "red flags" more or less the same way you did, it's just that I know several of my best relationships over the years could have been sidelined before they ever happened had I let those flags dissuade me. There are certainly *some* of those that would be dealbreakers for me - chronic alcoholism, or verbal or physical abuse of any kind. But I had a great relationship with a girl who could fall into the "self-hating" category, and I made it a point to "correct" her every time she said something untruthfully self-mocking until she started to see herself in a new, proper light. She would tell me she feels like a used-up dishrag; I'd remind her that she was an innocent child who was taken advantage of, and that no kid that young should have been expected to say "no" to adults that had forced themselves on her. I wouldn't let her get away with saying anything bad about herself that wasn't true. And over time, she stopped thinking this way, and there'd be one less red flag in her life. Sometimes she'd ramble off some trivial items about her day and then catch herself, say "I know I'm dull, so i'll stop talking before i bore you to tears", i'd respond "you're fascinating and interesting; I'd love to hear more". And so on.

Just gotta decide which red flags really are dealbreakers and which you can work around. I can't speak for everyone else, but i'm ready to change one or two long-entrenced habits if it means being with someone i love. 5 or 6 habits, though, should probably look elsewhere....

Lee626, Monday, 2 September 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link

i don't think you guys are really talking about the same thing but w/e

no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 2 September 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

^^^

ljubljana, Monday, 2 September 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link

^^^

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 September 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link

yeah we're not really. but what you're saying makes sense and I def found myself saying such words of praise to him, often, bc that was how I truly felt. But someone has to want to move past the past and certain self-defeating things they've entrenched in their identity.
xps

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 2 September 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link

which I realize, from personal experience, is really fucking hard and takes work and hurts in itself and is a life-long and evolving issue

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 2 September 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link

yeah i'm aware i wasn't talking of exactly the same thing, obv all of you get that, but thought it still relevant. In my cases the red flags developed from things out of their control so maybe I allowed more leeway than usual, or maybe I could relate to them having experienced similar things myself. I just don't want us all expecting for perfect, flawless mates and expecting to find them.

574 srsly (Lee626), Monday, 2 September 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link

I'm quite sure no one here expects perfect, flawless mates nor to be expected to be perfect and flawless.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link

so perfect & flawless is out, and so are too many red flags. What I was trying to get at is just where should that line be drawn, and how many (or what types) of red flags we should find acceptable and be willing to deal with?

574 srsly (Lee626), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link

Kinda depends? Obviously?

no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:22 (ten years ago) link

this is not 'getting over a breakup talk'

hi rrrobyn, sounds like you made good choice here imo

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link

thanks dmac
yeah i'm not going to get wrapped up here in talking about the finer points of flaws vs abusive relationships when my heart and mind have been kind of fucked over for the past nine months and i'm still figuring out which side is up, so, yeah, another thread...

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link

and haha, re: mountain goats fb postings i mentioned above - i was telling a friend about that and how 'no children' (and many of j's song's) are stories about characters and such, and that that made it actually both wtf hurtful and (ruefully) wtf hilarious to me at the same time that he had posted it. and she just sent me this from an mtv interview:
"The thing is, I have empathy for every character I sing through. But that song, “No Children,” is kind of funny and I’m not laughing with those people, I’m laughing at them. It’s funny to watch people who are that messed up. It’s maybe not the most admirable trait in a human being to be amused by that, and I think that’s why I try to have some empathy for them. But the funny parts of that song? That’s not me saying, “Hey, isn’t it hilarious how people treat each other bad?” It’s me saying, “You guys are wasting your single opportunity to occupy this human body.” I don’t have any admiration for them. If I had any admiration, it’s the same admiration you have for a smoking wreck. It looks kind of awesome. But you don’t want one in your back yard."

YEP.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:03 (ten years ago) link

i am getting over this breakup with FACTS

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:03 (ten years ago) link

(p.s. he removed it from his fb at least)

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:04 (ten years ago) link

you should remove him from yours!

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:05 (ten years ago) link

that's how this thread is supposed to work, right?

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:06 (ten years ago) link

i know i should, i know, i know

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:07 (ten years ago) link

breakups are hard (in the time of fb) :(

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:09 (ten years ago) link

girrrrrl

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:11 (ten years ago) link

at least i'm laughing right now about people communicating passive-aggressively on fb through mtn goats songs on youtube. i swear i was just posting love love love bc it is an interesting and strangely sad + lovely song.
ANYWAY.
also laughing at myself. but it's okay.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link

breakups were hard even before FB, but I preferred the news not hitting everyone's wall in real time.

(sry 'bout my earlier OT posts)

574 srsly (Lee626), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link

great, I just called the guy who dumped me in May my bf in front of him, way to confirm to myself that I am not getting over this thing and to him that I am a crazy bunny-boiling mad stalker lady or something

we went out for 8 years and still together (at his request) and it is way too easy for my brain to remain in denial, but I still don't want to throw him out bcz it turns out I really like denial I guess. oh and my mental health doesn't do too well when I'm living on my own

the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

sorry, I should just have put that on the updates thread or best of all not even posted it instead of shitting up the zings at exes thread

raghghghhhh at myself

the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

was that 'are still living together'?

you are being super unreasonable on yourself if you are expecting to be "over this thing" already! and i think you do already know that, so please don't let the worst part of your brain twist it against you.

yes, still living together

You're right (thanks) but I just worry I'm actually moving backwards, I guess? like of course it's good that it's not on my mind all the time any more and that we are currently on pretty good terms but I feel like I'm letting my brain completely forget it happened at all until I get some kind of reminder and then it hurts as much as it did the first time, over and over again.

But this stuff is hard, which is not news to anyone. (It's good to have that acknowledged, I guess. The only people who know in my "real life" are friends of both of ours who've been politely avoiding the subject, plus my parents who have at least mostly left the "you have made a mistake, let us brainstorm how you can fix it" stage for now.)

the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link

Man, still living is TOUGH, like crazy-difficult. Esp if he is seeing someone else. And wtf you should not feel dumb for accidentally referring to him as your bf when v little of the practical aspects of your relationship have changed.

just1n3, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link

yikes, that sounds really tough.

I met up with GB for a pint yesterday afternoon. We both went in scowling, with the full intention of breaking up, and after an hour we were laughing at each other's foibles just like always. Neither of us could make the break. Now we're apart and I've remembered all the things I hate about him, all the breaky-uppy things I needed to say. Seven years of this yo-yoing... aargh. Wrong thread, probably.

xp

you may not like it now but you will (Zora), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link

I cant decide whether thats better or worse than the converse tbh

aps that sounds incredibly tough.

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link

no way, Z i think this is def the right thread for that --- getting over a breakup is hard! there's no rules for how long it should take or how complicated it can get!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link

But I'm not getting over it Veg! I'm failing to even get to the line! We have broken up a few times before but it never lasts long. This time if we manage to go through with it I'm going to go the full clean slate, delete the phone number, unfriend on FB, all of it. It seems so harsh, but I can't trust my own judgement around the man.

There are things in the flat I won't kiss goodbye to, though. Not after leaving everything behind in the divorce, damn it.

you may not like it now but you will (Zora), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link

all I know Z is that I see you trying, and I think that counts for something. I certainly don't think any less of you for struggling with it, nor does anyone else itt (imo)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link

Thanks. I'll continue to struggle, I'll try not to post too many updates about it b/c they are always the same... if something actually changes I'll be in here like a shot tho.

you may not like it now but you will (Zora), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link

He hasn't been seeing that much of her yet but yeah, that is presumably going to change and when I remember that I briefly resolve to ask him to move out before it does, because tbh I end up having a meltdown p. much every time he does see her, mostly on my own while he's out but sometimes at him too. But then he comes back and it's like, oh, this isn't so bad, why would I want to get rid of the good times together and have nothing but the bad times when he isn't here and I mope about how he's probably with her and spin my wheels etc?

(Answer: bcz Moving On. I just don't see much to move on to, but I know things can't stay like this forever.)

xposts oh Z, we're sort of in the same place and sort of in the opposite place. good thoughts to you

the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link

Oh my, that is a cruel situation to be in. One thing I know I could NOT do is pretend to be GB's 'friend' - I am still in love with him, and if he was seeing someone else I would wind up stabbing him, or her, or myself, because it's all been so frustrating and disappointing and, and. Best case, I'd try to undermine their relationship. So I've said to him up front, there will be no friending.

I don't / won't have anything to move on to either, but you have to make space for it to happen. And if it can't go on forever, what are you (we) gaining from waiting?

Just spinning the thought - I totally understand why you haven't kicked him out yet. You'll do it when you're either strong enough, or desperate enough. I hope the strength comes sooner. Good thoughts to you, too.

you may not like it now but you will (Zora), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link

struggling is normal, moving on is really hard and nobody shd be down on themselves about that.

i guess i moved to a point where the vacillating is one-sided and only in my head and that uncomplicates things a little bit - i can feel good about not throwing emotional spanners in the working relationship of sharing kids - but i'm still fucked up and getting no better i guess. after 21 months. so i feel for all of you stuck in those never-quite-clean-enough breakups. it's the price of not being a shit.

stay strong peeps :)

imagine Brigadoons (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link

re: getting away from relationships that are dreadful, especially in the emotional balance, I can only highly advocate getting out while you can! The godawful relationship I detailed on ilx yeeears ago still jabs me in the ribs occasionally. I can run into her and her husband around town, ignore them, and go on my merry way, and life is great. I ended up in a conversation at the beginning of last week where I heard way too much, though, from a shared friend and it stirred up some emotions I _know_ I've purged.

Mostly dread, a sense of self-failure, and anger that this person is out there making someone else's life complete hell. I think that there was a point in my life that I thought being in a relationship, even a really shitty one, had something good to it. But really, it just poisons your outlook.

um ignore that tangent, dump all assholes, live your lives

space is deep (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

hi guys i just had one of those pretty small 'resetting the bone' heartbreaks

sucks

but i'm not despondent or anything

just kinda low

anyway i'll be cool

HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link

dump all the assholes, live your lives
is something i can get behind

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 03:12 (ten years ago) link

DUMP ALL OF THE ASSHOLES

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 04:50 (ten years ago) link

and steadfastly refuse to get back with them, no matter how illogically tempting (another necessary reminder to self)

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link

The irony there is that often makes em come back when they wouldnt have otherwise, heh.

I'm James Franco, bitch! (Trayce), Thursday, 5 September 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link

kind of the most dickish way to show you're in control is to get someone who dumped you back and then dump them

space is deep (mh), Thursday, 5 September 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link

well you might get laid in the bargain ...

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Thursday, 5 September 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link

there are much better bargains to be made in life imo

space is deep (mh), Thursday, 5 September 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link

kind of the most dickish way to show you're in control is to get someone who dumped you back and then dump them

LOL I did that to someone once many years ago after he'd considered leaving me for another chick. I talked him out of it, built everything back up, then got the shits and bailed.

I'm James Franco, bitch! (Trayce), Thursday, 5 September 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link

good relationship hardmanning

space is deep (mh), Thursday, 5 September 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link

I will not get back with this person. i guess it is the end of irony.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 6 September 2013 03:30 (ten years ago) link

kind of the most dickish way to show you're in control is to get someone who dumped you back and then dump them

― space is deep (mh), Thursday, September 5, 2013 7:08 PM

this is classic

markers, Friday, 6 September 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link

aww markers

space is deep (mh), Friday, 6 September 2013 04:46 (ten years ago) link

what?

markers, Friday, 6 September 2013 04:48 (ten years ago) link

I was appreciative of your endorsement

space is deep (mh), Friday, 6 September 2013 04:51 (ten years ago) link

Well, but at the same time, don't ever do that, what I said

space is deep (mh), Friday, 6 September 2013 04:53 (ten years ago) link

hahaha

markers, Friday, 6 September 2013 04:55 (ten years ago) link

real key is to never CEDE control

markers, Friday, 6 September 2013 04:55 (ten years ago) link

unleash your inner fuhrer

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 September 2013 05:04 (ten years ago) link

damn

crüt zingmaster (crüt), Friday, 6 September 2013 05:09 (ten years ago) link

this is not comedy thread

space is deep (mh), Friday, 6 September 2013 05:13 (ten years ago) link

I didnt do mine on purpose, lest anyone think I'm even more of a bitch than they already do, heh.

I'm James Franco, bitch! (Trayce), Friday, 6 September 2013 05:16 (ten years ago) link

i've never not done this after being dumped.

james franco, Friday, 6 September 2013 05:24 (ten years ago) link

did not email my ex to wish her a happy birthday yesterday

gold star

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 02:12 (ten years ago) link

wtg!

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 02:14 (ten years ago) link

props 2 u

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 02:33 (ten years ago) link

I fucking love this thread. It makes me happy to read roxy's OP every time.

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 02:45 (ten years ago) link

holy shit, I forgot this was the thread where I probably elaborated on a lot of the shit in my life at the time, and let me say... it seems like a lot more than four years ago

here's to moving on and getting over, rinse and repeat if necessary

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 02:51 (ten years ago) link

I look forward to several more serious exes

― mh, Monday, February 21, 2011 8:53 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

still working on this tbh

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 03:06 (ten years ago) link

Exes get axes.

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 03:08 (ten years ago) link

I went grocery shopping with one over the weekend, it's cool to have relatable people around.

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 03:10 (ten years ago) link

I just broke up with someone who suited me perfectly in every way and I did not dislike one thing about him. It's annoying.

homosexual II, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 06:32 (ten years ago) link

it still makes me happy to read my OP tbh

xxp

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link

i see that guy sometimes and he's miserable

lol

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link

YAY!!!

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

:D

i'm not racist, i just dislike rap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link

I kind of hope for the best for all people and that they can learn to be functional humans

that said, the person I posted about years ago is an even worse trainwreck and thank god my life is cool

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link

I am not actually *breaking* *up* w/ ppl per se but there is a person who I have overinvested in and a person who has overinvested in me and I need to retract from both and it is a thing that is kind of real

Baby, where'd you get Chobani from? (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link

relationship management should be a certified course somewhere

quite racist, don't mind rap (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

you hate opeth

<3

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link

my current boyfriend who i intend to marry also dislikes opeth, but its not combined with all that other stuff so its not unsavory

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link

uh oh

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link

if we broke up that would be the only thing i could write here. you disliked opeth, but went to see them with me anyway and in fact bought the tickets

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link

i love that.

estela, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link

:)))))))

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link

had a really rough day of missing her like crazy. just chatting about parenty stuff over FB and for a second i want to just mention, casually, that i do miss her very much. but it's finished isn't it and i shdn't do that. right? just back me up here plz.

ftraight from ye toppe of my Donne (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 September 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

Correct.

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Thursday, 19 September 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link

you're allowed to feel things, just don't linger on it

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Thursday, 19 September 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link

thanks. just needed reinforcement. :/

ftraight from ye toppe of my Donne (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 September 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link

Yeah fraid not man.

quite racist, don't mind rap (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 September 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

:/

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 September 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link

oh nv <3

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 September 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link

it passed

there shd be like an AA for ex-partners in moments of relapse

ftraight from ye toppe of my Donne (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link

i will be yr sponsor, NV

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link

cheers :)

it's a less onerous task than watching out for my booze lapses

ftraight from ye toppe of my Donne (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link

for me they often go together

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link

I'm not sure why its a bad thing to tell an ex you miss them? :/ I still tell J I miss him, from time to time (and we still hang out a lot so its a silly thing to say!)

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Thursday, 19 September 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

I mean you dont want to be all sobby and PLEASE COME BACK TO ME OR I WILL DIIIIIIIIIIIIE, but surely a wistful fond "I miss what we had" is acceptable when it was a marriage with kids ffs

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Thursday, 19 September 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link

Because the relationship is over? Would you say that to a friend if you were in a committed relationship?

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Thursday, 19 September 2013 23:58 (ten years ago) link

Like if you are no longer in a relationship, you have to look at it as a whole, not the parts. If as a whole you miss the relationship then why are you not in it? If it's some parts, then you can kind of fondly remember and then get the fuck on to more useful thoughts

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Thursday, 19 September 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link

Some things just aren't made easier by sharing, and unfortunately this is one of them. In fact it's probably worse when you pull this sad blanket back up to your chin. :(

@Trayce: Each person has to respect the other's choices, and part of that is not making them relive the hard things all the time.

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Friday, 20 September 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link

Would you say that to a friend if you were in a committed relationship?

Yes? Maybe I'm weird :(

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Friday, 20 September 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link

Me too. You're not weird.

Lee626, Friday, 20 September 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link

Hey married lady I miss when we used to do it.

Your single "friend",
mh

p.s. Please keep hanging out with me I don't think about banging you that much and I'm sure your spouse won't mind.

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Friday, 20 September 2013 02:56 (ten years ago) link

I wouldnt be thinking about someone that way if they were married, tbf.

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Friday, 20 September 2013 03:11 (ten years ago) link

"i miss what we had" can refer to lots of other things one misses from a past relationship too. I guess i'm not jealous or insecure enough to be bothered or feel threatened by my gf/spouse occasionally wistfully reminiscing about someone that she was once close with.

Lee626, Friday, 20 September 2013 03:18 (ten years ago) link

I think I would say that I missed something in particular, like arguing over TV or whatever, not "what we had" because what you had was a relaish

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Friday, 20 September 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link

and hopefully one that enriched both of you in some way, and that you learned from, and can take what you learned into future relationships and likewise avoid repeating mistakes that drove you apart. I would so much rather embark on a new relationship with someone who speaks fondly of her ex even after they've parted ways than someone who has totally cut off communication, or worse, someone who trashes her ex.

Lee626, Friday, 20 September 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link

well I am close friends with and speak fondly of my second most recent ex, and occasionally reminisce over fun times we had, but I'm fairly sure her current husband (also a friend of mine) would whoop my ass if I pinged her "hey I miss what we had". but as Trayce said, I don't think people itt are talking about saying it to married folk.

Neanderthal, Friday, 20 September 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link

I actually know someone married to an xgf of mine who i've told (if not in these exact words) that I miss what we once had and still think of her alot, but also that I think they're a much better couple than we ever could have been, and I'm glad they found each other and made things work that we couldn't, and he's fine with that.

Lee626, Friday, 20 September 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link

I miss all kinds of things I had at different times but expressing that verbally just seems greedy to me, because it's not expressing gratitude for something given? Kind of a semantics thing, but I'd rather say "I appreciated when you'd help me" rather than "I miss when you'd do this" because one is keeping it positive and the other is addressing a change negatively? idk, semantics

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Friday, 20 September 2013 03:44 (ten years ago) link

this is about NV's sitch specifically. i understand sharing & all but whether or not you personally would or would not express those feelings is kinda by the wayside? it's more helpful *in this situation* if he doesn't, empathy being kinda key here

i'm normally the first to barge in with a long explanation of me & my feels so idk why I'm pushing back but

arg

fuckit

as you were

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 September 2013 04:22 (ten years ago) link

otm

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Friday, 20 September 2013 04:38 (ten years ago) link

It would be a terrible idea for Noodle to say anything in the circs, agreed

head up NV

I'm not a rockist, I just hate Rap-A-Lot (sic), Friday, 20 September 2013 04:47 (ten years ago) link

what kept blind-siding me yesterday, keeps blind-siding me tbh, is the things we used to do as a family and the times we shared in love with each other's company. and i had the "is this really the end?" conversation with her 18 months ago, and it's me who needs to remind myself that the situation isn't going to magically change, in fact is probably going to get more finished, at least for her, over time. and any kind of needy, wheedly, "i still miss you" line on my part is really just putting a kind of pressure and a kind of "look how sad you made me" onto her. which she does not deserve.

so when i overlook the reasons that we weren't happy any more just to make it into this "please take me back" scenario well, i'd be lying to everybody, ultimately. i may not feel ready to move on, yet, but i'll deal with that myself and keep remembering that the ship's over the horizon and all i'm sighing after is the smoke.

ftraight from ye toppe of my Donne (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 September 2013 06:29 (ten years ago) link

i don't think you can ever say any version of "i have feelings for you" to someone in a truly neutral way. there's always a secret appeal.

ftraight from ye toppe of my Donne (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 September 2013 06:30 (ten years ago) link

any kind of needy, wheedly, "i still miss you" line on my part is really just putting a kind of pressure and a kind of "look how sad you made me" onto her. which she does not deserve.

from that i think you can deduce what you need to do, and what you should (or shouldn't) say to her.

Lee626, Friday, 20 September 2013 11:37 (ten years ago) link

i knew, i just wanted somebody to agree with me so i didn't lie to myself

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 September 2013 11:39 (ten years ago) link

<3

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 September 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link

been two years since my ex-wife and i separated...for all the craziness i do still miss her sometimes. Its normal. 16 years of my life were spent with her, I'll always miss her regardless of the fact that we aren't together and never will be again. Yeah I'm happy now and in a decent relationship, but yes..its totally normal to still miss your ex.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link

didn't see the last revive so I want to wish NV all the best and also to take on board everything he says in his well-written post because I am guilty of missing and sad-making and it's not right of me

one of these things I want to do will be easier than the other: all the best, NV

the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link

eight months pass...

i don't think you can ever say any version of "i have feelings for you" to someone in a truly neutral way. there's always a secret appeal.

― ftraight from ye toppe of my Donne (Noodle Vague), Friday, September 20, 2013 12:30 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:(

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link

i was right :(

i hope i can be somebody who gives to this thread now

god knows it took fucken long enough to get over :)

Kevin from Blechgium (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link

50% think the problems are worth separating over, but maybe 30% of the problems have seen some progress over the past few years, with much tiredness as a result. then other problems arise. how sad is it when base-line compatibility trumps affection and commitment. not sure i can ask for a second chance again and be fair to this person.

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link

aw matt

i think maybe we're all entitled to, or all need, one clear definitive "no"

and its okay to negotiate, before that "no", as long as we're honest?

but after that i couldn't ask again

Kevin from Blechgium (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link

glad you're past it nv

xp thanks

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link

i feel like i should be the one who gives the "no", that i'm the one who has had one foot in and one foot that can't help but tiptoe away, creating conflict where there shouldn't be any, arbitrary and tiresome conflict based on bad expectations and free-floating resentment. but now it's just sinking in, what i have at stake, that i have actual love at stake, what is actually out there waiting for me away from this (nothing but me). nothing definitive has been said yet, i don't think, at least not sober. it's been a few days, the pain is no longer imminent, and it feels good to be taking a break, staying at a friend's house, to be honest.

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link

and then there's this man who i miss. and care about.

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 22:54 (nine years ago) link

maybe that's the least that you need - just some space from each for a bit? although that can go both ways - you end up missing the routine of the relationship and totally forgetting all the bad stuff and get sucked back in, to your detriment, or you realize that the bad stuff truly isn't a big deal and can be worked through.

just1n3, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link

yeah

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link

time and space = clarity. not there yet. maybe a few more weeks.

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link

<3 matt

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link

thanks

mattresslessness, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link

getting back into dating has been a failure so far. forcing yourself to wonder if you could work with someone feels too absurd after leaving someone with whom that was always obvious. "it will get easier eventually" but how soon is crucial. if life is mostly suffering punctuated by little periods of better, how am i supposed to take comfort in that? how much of an 80 year life has to be dominated by feeling like shit before it's fair to say that it wasn't a good idea in the first place?

een, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 02:54 (nine years ago) link

forcing yourself to wonder if you could work with someone feels too absurd after leaving someone with whom that was always obvious

I know this feeling well. How long has it been since the breakup?

JRN, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

So I've been in the midst of trying to do a little writing about a breakup from long ago, and this afternoon I went looking through my gmail archives for something. I stumbled on the first emails that old ex and I ever exchanged, where we were talking about how to write about painful experiences, and the advice she gave me then is still good. It feels a little funny to apply it to writing about her.

So yes, tackle that story. It sounds like it will be amazing. It sounds like it might hurt. I walked around in a bad mood the entire time I was writing [a similarly painful story]. The words seep out of the pages, become moods you carry. Let it bring you down. Let it do what it needs to do to you. You'll get back up. You know that.

And--do I want to do something next week? Yes, absolutely.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link

wow

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

yeah kind of depth_charge.gif

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link

*thinks of all the relationships gmail has seen*

switching letters guy, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link

i mean, *rhinks of all the telationships gmail has seen*

switching letters guy, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link

nice save, switching letters guy

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

So I've been in the midst of trying to do a little writing

ugh what a terrible set of words

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

met my ex-wife 20 years ago today

mookieproof, Sunday, 3 August 2014 23:12 (nine years ago) link

:/

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 August 2014 00:00 (nine years ago) link

ten months pass...

you were always so stubbornly against seeing a therapist and now you're dating one

i wish you all the best!

gr8080, Monday, 22 June 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link

nice.

how's life, Monday, 22 June 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

a+.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

you spent five years telling me you were selfish & emotionally unavailable and i kept asking you to love me.

finally figured out that you're emotionally unavailable.

i hope you find somebody that makes you happy.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 27 August 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link

this hurts considerably less than i expected it to.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link

have a hug anyway

MC Whistler (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:06 (eight years ago) link

i made a sandiwch, and then sobbed for half an hour, and then ate my sandwich

and now i kind of feel ok

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:06 (eight years ago) link

thanks nv. <3

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:06 (eight years ago) link

kinda sandwich?

deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:12 (eight years ago) link

i'm sorry, hoos.

but maybe you're heading toward a better place now, right?

1994 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:23 (eight years ago) link

peanut butter

it was p good

xp

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:23 (eight years ago) link

but maybe you're heading toward a better place now, right?

― 1994 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:23 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, i absolutely am. when the conversation started last night it was on the pretty well-tread ground of "i'm done with not dealing with my drinking problem" "i want to believe you, but you've said that so many times" "i don't need you to believe me. it's just over."

and it felt really good to say that.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link

yes!

you are heading toward the 'riding toward the sunset with a giant cowboy hat in front of majestic mountains' kind of better place

1994 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 27 August 2015 14:32 (eight years ago) link

yeah this gon be gud

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:30 (eight years ago) link

all my best hoos

, Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:39 (eight years ago) link

ugh pb

do like mountains tho, head for the mts

deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link

"i don't need you to believe me. it's just over."

I can't think of anything more liberating to say/think/feel. GL Hoos

Gett Off, Eileen (WilliamC), Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link

<3 Hoos

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 28 August 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link

you're far away now, two time zones west

I did it all right, but only after doing all of it (and then some) wrong, and I got no one to blame but this yours-truly fuckin asshole, 2.5 years since

I miss you more than the one who left months ago, more by far, because some shit don't happen twice, but I own it cause I deserve it

and I'm still here.

slothroprhymes, Sunday, 30 August 2015 02:42 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

hey, it's been five years

(very mel allen voice) how about that

mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 05:14 (eight years ago) link

i am 100% over you so why did i have a dream that was equal parts vivid and mundane last nite that involved me just hanging out with you and being given a tour of your new apartment for what seemed like hours

gr8080, Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link

i sometimes have those too. somewhere in our subconscious they're still floating around, even though our waking brains thought they had been compartmentalized and forgotten.

xpost

i'm not sure if the five year anniversary is a happy one or a sad one, but i hope it's the former, or at least that it went better than the 1 year anniversary did.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 3 December 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

http://brokenships.la

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 February 2016 00:42 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

you owned books by jack donovan and had terrible taste but at the end of the day you were just a total asshole.

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Monday, 25 December 2017 05:59 (six years ago) link

you're 53 and you left the mormon church years ago but you're still mormon as fuck, lying to everyone who isn't a blood relative, getting upset when i use swear words, making recipes which feature cream of mushroom soup, putting mayonnaise in your guacamole.

did i mention you owned books by jack donovan? you fetishized violence but didn't know anything about it you entitled ditzy cunt.

you kicked me out with nothing on a monday night when it was 20 degrees outside because i told you i was planning on breaking up with you when i got a job. and you accused me of being the mean one. go fuck yourself forever and ever. i will never go to burning man in remembrance of you.

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Monday, 25 December 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

Okay what the actual dickens *is* going on here

infinity (∞), Monday, 25 December 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link

Map <3

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 25 December 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

just googled Jack Donovan o_O there's always one more bottom feeding right wing men's rights bullshit artist

sorry you're going through this but honestly anyone who would read that....

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 December 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

i doubt he even read much of it though to be fair it is completely unreadable. thanks guys. i'm in a much better place. ya'll know stevie d. he is the sweetest guy and a total saint for letting me stay with him for a bit. going back "home" across the country on friday. another start from scratch, the third in five years or so. feeling good about this one though. decent mental health, feeling more myself than ever. i know what i want from life. cheers and peace.

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Monday, 25 December 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

Best wishes matt. Stevie d is indeed the best.

treeship 2, Monday, 25 December 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link

best wishes, map<3
even though these are difficult days the recipes featuring cream of mushroom soup and the mayonnaise in the guacamole made me lol

estela, Monday, 25 December 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

:)

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Monday, 25 December 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

sorry yr going through this matt. good luck.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link

wishing you the best, the initial "dodged a bullet imo" in this thread seems appropriate here as well

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 02:27 (six years ago) link

mayo in guac is the devil, go in peace map

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 03:52 (six years ago) link

love you vegemitegrrl

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 08:40 (six years ago) link

<3

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link

making recipes which feature cream of mushroom soup, putting mayonnaise in your guacamole.

this is triggering memories of my upthread ex's family, but you are awesome, and go in pizza! if you ever visit the SF Bay, I owe ya!

sarahell, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 19:55 (six years ago) link

map rules y'all

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 02:02 (six years ago) link

ty for being the awesome guy to help through a breakup <3

mh, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 05:32 (six years ago) link

sometimes i still miss her so much

you shoulda killfiled me last year (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 January 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link

Hey nv

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 January 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link

<3 to you NV

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 4 January 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link

<3

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 January 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link

you thought 4ndrew sulliv4n was brilliant. you always chatted him up whenever you saw him out walking his dogs. one time you guys stopped right in the very narrow entrance to the gym locker room for a conversation. i squeezed by to go work out, which is what you're supposed to fucking do at a gym. you were one of those annoying queens who couldn't see the gym as anything other than a social club.

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:07 (six years ago) link

misogynistic gays with daddy issues, fuck off 4 lyfe

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link

let me just say that you have always seemed like an awesome dude

and also most of these anecdotes make me want to go screaming for the hills

mh, Friday, 12 January 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link

Missed this before, 💜Matt

very stabbable gaius (wins), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link

aw u too boo

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Friday, 12 January 2018 23:56 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Today is 5th wedding anniversary.

My last 3 wedding anniversaries (including today) - two years ago: on my way home from work my wife calls me upset as the cat has gone into a catatonic state with hugely dilated pupils. This lasts for a week - during which we start discussing putting the cat down as he is not eating, sleeping, or drinking fluids - we take the cat to the vet a few times and visit a veterinarian neurologist, none of them have a clue other than it is something neurological. The cat eventually suddenly snaps out of it, never for the conditions to reoccur.

Last year: I have a doctor's appointment as I have been having numbness of the extremities, chest pain and tightness, sweating, tachycardia, trouble breathing etc. I have a panic attack in the doctor's room. Wife has a meeting at work.

This year: wake up in my new place for the first time having separated from my wife yesterday. This is by far the least shitty of the last 3 anniversaries ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

khat person (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link

<3

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:58 (six years ago) link

fight the good fight

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link

We are going to hang out tonight and watch riverdale and eat some edibles

khat person (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link

Ah Jim. Sorry.

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

I'm doing surprisingly well, and there is very little acrimony :)

khat person (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link

thanks for the kind words

khat person (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link

Realness. Very glad to hear you woke up ok man <3

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:14 (six years ago) link

<3 glad yr doing ok & that it is not super-acrimonious

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:38 (six years ago) link

sorry man, big changes are hard

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:52 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

How many times are you supposed to feel sure that you've found the person you'll spend the rest of your life with before you do?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:44 (six years ago) link

Ah hoos <3

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link

<3

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link

just means you have a big heart hoos <3

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link

It isn't over. We're trying to work through it. But it's been weeks now of dread and tears and hard conversations, and this weekend she told me she'd been afraid to admit that she hasn't had romantic feelings for me for the last few months. And I remember the end of enough relationships to know that's never a good sign. To feel undesired by the person you love more than anything--I feel like a gutted fish.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link

i just want to scream and burn everything down

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link

Do that for a while

Then remember that there's plenty out there need you in another mode than that

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link

feel sure that you've found the person you'll spend the rest of your life with

this is a thing?

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:47 (six years ago) link

It isn't over. We're trying to work through it. But it's been weeks now of dread and tears and hard conversations, and this weekend she told me she'd been afraid to admit that she hasn't had romantic feelings for me for the last few months. And I remember the end of enough relationships to know that's never a good sign. To feel undesired by the person you love more than anything--I feel like a gutted fish.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 1:50 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lots of love to you hoos, from someone who was in that boat v recently and similarly crushed at the time.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link

sorry and mucho love to you hoos

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:59 (six years ago) link

Bah, sorry to hear that, man. One thing though:

And I remember the end of enough relationships to know that's never a good sign.

Past relationships are only ever going to cast a shadow over current ones, because, y'know, they're past. They didn't work out - but that doesn't mean that patterns you see in them necessarily point to doom. Have you the option of couples counselling?

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link

always move toward the sun, cast the shadow behind you on the past, imo

mh, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:44 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

i’ve decided to be single forevermore

which means i have to break up with someone i’ve Been seeing for about a month

do i owe them an explanation?

the late great, Sunday, 1 April 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link

general human decency says yes imo
but idk shit about dating rules so maybe my advice is not the best

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 April 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link

general human decency definitely says yes if you mean "should I just ghost them" instead

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Sunday, 1 April 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link

it’s only been a month so you owe no more than “not feeling it” imo

it’s within the dating trial period before you have any sort of solid commitment, unless you’ve exchanged vows or something

mh, Sunday, 1 April 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link

yeah ghosting bad, unless it’s a mutual “we forgot to text each other ever again” thing that is mutual

mh, Sunday, 1 April 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link

oh i don’t intend to ghost

i was just wondering if “not feeling it” is a good enough explanation or if i owe them more

the late great, Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:16 (six years ago) link

not feeling it is cool imo and ime

you could also go slightly more poetic with "my heart's not in it" or Bartleby with "I'd prefer not to go foward/I'm not comfortable going forward"

niels, Sunday, 1 April 2018 23:14 (six years ago) link

It isn't over. We're trying to work through it. But it's been weeks now of dread and tears and hard conversations, and this weekend she told me she'd been afraid to admit that she hasn't had romantic feelings for me for the last few months. And I remember the end of enough relationships to know that's never a good sign. To feel undesired by the person you love more than anything--I feel like a gutted fish.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 1:50 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this ended friday btw

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 2 April 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link

best of luck and much love to you, Hoos

mh, Monday, 2 April 2018 18:07 (six years ago) link

aw man... sorry to hear that Hoos.

I wanted to start a topic on how to adjust to being single life, but I guess this thread is good to go.

I'm recently single. I came out of a long relationship about this time last year but barely got time to adjust before I got romantically involved with a colleague and we ended up seeing each other for about 9-10 months before splitting up the other week. I'm still on good terms with both exes. We walk in similar circles and I still see one of them at work every day, which isn't terribly easy but can't be helped.

The tough bit is over. It's been a few weeks since the break-up and my heart's healing. Now for the other tough bit. I've not been alone for 10 years and the prospect of that is in some ways that's liberating, exciting even. At the same time, it's alien. If I surround myself with friendly faces I can take my mind off things.

But last night was tough. My housemate was out and man, I was lonely. I took a walk, thought about popping into a pub or a cafe but felt embarrassed about being alone. I thought about going to the cinema, but I've never been to the cinema on my own. Ended up pretty much forcing myself to watch a film at home by myself. It's not that I wouldn't have done this before when I was in a relationship, but there's a dissonance going on in that I'm now at liberty to do whatever I want, but at the same time it feels a bit fruitless, like a waste of time cos there's no one to really share that experience with.

The other thing is feeling weird in public places. Like if I go out dancing or socialising, I'm in a crowded room and conscious of being a single bloke in my mid-late 30s. Why is that strange? I dunno, but there's a sense of alienation or a feeling like I can't quite relax properly. Like an internal social pressure to act like an interesting person, a non-weirdo, because even though I'm not looking to make a new relationship or even 'hook-up' with anyone at the moment I don't want to be a wallflower. And yeah there's the whole 'missing human intimacy thing' too which is a biggie. Does that make sense?

Ultimately this question isn't about 'getting over a break-up' or 'how to meet someone new'. I'm keen to be single for a while and use it as a time to get my shit together, remember who I am (or discover I should say), learn to be independent, use the time to work on projects I never had time for... But it's easier said than done. Simply deciding what to do on a Sunday afternoon, or what to eat for dinner, or trying to think of things to do on a Friday night that don't involve getting absolutely slaughtered, it's not coming very naturally rn.

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 14:29 (six years ago) link

that was a ramble. apologies for the bad writing.

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link

No, it's fair enough, I get some idea of that from time to time. About a month ago I was in town for something and was about to head home, no interest in a night out (also lol old so more than 2 pints would be a serious decision), I'd already talked to my girlfriend about 'how was your day' and rang my Mum (she's ill so I try to ring regularly), and I was just struck with the desire to have a phone conversation, like would it be weird to just ask on Facebook if anyone wanted to talk? (A: Yes)

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link

that makes perfect sense

I'm currently on the other end of things having seen myself as a single person, primarily. I've dated off and on for the last few years but have had an intentional break from that, which has gone on slightly too long.

I was literally the only person in the movie theater yesterday and it was refreshing. There are some experiences like that where you're only going to talk about it after the fact, and it doesn't matter if you experience them with others. The socializing, like dancing or attending a concert, sometimes does feel really off, even if you wouldn't be able to pick out your friends easily in a mass of people and would be doing your own thing part of the time.

I really need more structured activities outside the house, but I'd say: start a routine. Even if it's heading out to a breakfast spot on the weekend, finding a place where you can get a coffee and chat with the staff, find a place where you can have two beers and chat with regulars on the way home. Uh, and maybe things that don't involve food/drinks/commerce

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 14:47 (six years ago) link

sorry, that was a xp to DL

would it be weird to just ask on Facebook if anyone wanted to talk

not necessarily! I have friends who have done this, although I haven't, and have ended up talking via text or calling people. even an ilxor or two.

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

that is to say, friends have asked if anyone wants to talk, and I've obliged. or just struck up a conversation if I see someone's online.

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

xxxp to Andrew. i had that too. i've got lots of friends/acquaintances in this city but they're all people i met in the last 2 years and many of them i'm not sure about just ringing up and asking if they wanted to do something or just chat or whatever

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link

The socializing, like dancing or attending a concert, sometimes does feel really off, even if you wouldn't be able to pick out your friends easily in a mass of people and would be doing your own thing part of the time.

this is pretty funny and ironic in that I actually quite like breaking off from ppl I know in a pub/club/bar/gig and going on a little adventure. now suddenly i feel like a weirdo loner creeping around the place

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link

the trick is to conspicuously strike up a conversation with a small group of people, and then speak to others elsewhere in the club later. then the second group thinks you're with the first group, not a weird loner, and they're more likely to talk to you

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 14:55 (six years ago) link

another thing i have to admit I did which is totally stupid and not making me feel happy at all is rejoining OKCupid and spending hours a day repetitively doing the Double Take swipe thing despite not even wanting a date and not really being interested in anyone on there. Maybe it's the instant gratification of getting 'likes' (you can't even see who's doing the liking unless you pay for an account), or a general nosiness about who's out there, or a sort of 'not wanting to feel like a lonely lump and living vicariously through other's profiles' or something, but I need to get off that for now, or until I'm genuinely interested and/or desperate to meet someone. In the back of my mind I'm still thinking like someone who needs someone else with them, and needs it now. I guess I have to hypnotise myself to think like a happy single person.

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 15:04 (six years ago) link

there's no wrong answer as to what a healthy/happy single person is

sometimes just browsing through sites like that is cathartic, even if you never message anyone

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link

guess so.. being a social media addict doesn't help though, and it's a big waste of time considering

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 15:28 (six years ago) link

never been to the cinema on my own
it's great!

eating a 3 meal dinner alone at a good restaurant is also tops, really lets you zen out

I like being alone at concerts too (but I often end up talking to people when I go to concerts alone)

and bars, if it's a good bar you can just zen out standing at the bar having one pint after the other

I do get the awkwardness of clubbing alone, you need someone to dance with

and all those dating apps (I'm using all of them atm) are horrible indeed, such a waste of time

you could go to meetups and stuff, but I don't get the idea you need new friends? maybe would be nice for you to settle a bit more into your own company. but then, I'm an introvert so if you're different maybe it's never going to be as nice for you

niels, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 17:48 (six years ago) link

"never been to the cinema on my own"

Wow. I know I'm pretty far over on the antisocial end of the scale but the idea of people who need company to exist in even non-social public spaces just boggles my mind.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

"people who need company to exist"

can we assume that you didn't mean that to have the level of superiority it's giving off?

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link

Can I assume the same of your response?

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:13 (six years ago) link

there's no reason to assume goodwill on moo's part

WilliamC, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link

I'll admit to fp'ing right away

niels, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link

And is that the royal "we"?

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link

tbh Moo i was trying to give you the benefit of refining a comment that seemed pretty shitty for this kind of thread but i shd've known better

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link

You should probably stick to the "you have no friends" response from the other day, which I don't think anyone FP'd.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link

tbh Moo i was trying to give you the benefit of refining a comment that seemed pretty shitty for this kind of thread but i shd've known better

― bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, April 3, 2018 6:21 PM (eleven seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not supercilious in the slightest.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link

never mind, carry on

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link

I don't think it's about "needing" company as much as finding the act of doing these things solo a foreign thing.

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:25 (six years ago) link

there's no reason to assume goodwill on moo's part

― WilliamC, Tuesday, April 3, 2018 6:14 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Goodwill toward whom? I don't know you or anyone else posting here.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:25 (six years ago) link

I don't think it's about "needing" company as much as finding the act of doing these things solo a foreign thing.

― mh, Tuesday, April 3, 2018 6:25 PM (twenty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think finding it sufficiently foreign to avoid it is effectively the same thing. I find its foreignness foreign.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:27 (six years ago) link

if we're not worthy of goodwill then why interact with us at all? jesus christ

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:28 (six years ago) link

I didn't say you were un'worthy of goodwill', nor do I perceive this forum primarily as a site of social 'interaction' in which such a concept would come into play, but rather as one for discussion of ideas. Though having just seen how small is its readership, I suppose that view may be erroneous.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link

I would suggest that excessively personalizing that sort of idealized discussion is in fact a fairly good description of bad faith.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

I think depersonalizing any discussion, to the extent you pretend the people in it aren't distinct personalities bringing their own lives to the table, ignores how human interaction actually works

tell me how a thread with this title fits into your "idealized discussion" bullshit, because it's about a personal experience and not an idealized "how humans should deal with the end of a relationship"

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

there's no reason to assume goodwill on moo's part

― WilliamC, Tuesday, April 3, 2018 6:14 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Goodwill toward whom? I don't know you or anyone else posting here.

― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, April 3, 2018 11:25 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you are a total cunt

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

jim's got it in fewer words

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link

thread for callously but efficiently workshopping ideas for getting over a breakup

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link

"human interaction" doesn't "actually work" via typing words on a screen in what may be a hermetic environment and seeing them appear in electronic print to be read immediately or far in the future by several dozen or hundred faceless people any of whom might choose to ignore, read, respond, or address a different topic. Or was it your assertion that a given person may effectively control the terms of the thread for an indeterminate amount of time by presenting a certain personal topic or experience?

Note that this question is reasonably rhetorical and posed as part of a bilateral conversation I did not invite, and I'll now return you to defending ghosting with "I'm not feeling it," mr. goodwill, while I attempt do more productive things for an indeterminate interim.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link

No, the implication was your phrasing seemed judgmental and mean to someone who found the experience of going to a movie on their own disheartening.

And that's quite the misreading of what both "ghosting" and what I actually said was!

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link

you are a total cunt

― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, April 3, 2018 6:38 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I enjoy "cunts" on occasion so I'll accept your lower-class, sexist dismissal (to the degree a widespread term among your culture, expressive of its lower-class, sexist character) with mild amusement.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link

^not for those presently reading. a text for the futuremen^

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link

you are a total cunt

― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, April 3, 2018 6:38 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I enjoy "cunts" on occasion so I'll accept your lower-class, sexist dismissal (to the degree a widespread term among your culture, expressive of its lower-class, sexist character) with mild amusement.

― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, April 3, 2018 11:45 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

one of these posts is sexist, one of them is me calling you a cunt

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link

you're also a cock just fyi

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link

and an arsehole

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link

hey moo you're a fucking idiot nerd ass loser and everyone hates you btw

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link

ilx on the verge of dumping him again

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link

thread to moo vaughn from a breakup

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link

thread to breakup from moo vaughn

sleeve, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:00 (six years ago) link

Once upon a time and a very good time it was there was a moovaughn coming down along the road and this moovaughn that was coming down along the road met a nicens little boy named baby tuckhoos.

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

you're also a cock just fyi

― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, April 3, 2018 6:53 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Second thoughts then?

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:25 (six years ago) link

thread to breakup from moo vaughn

― sleeve, Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:00 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Something of a theme lately

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link

Really wish this thread was on 77 tbh 🤐

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link

Also why the fuck can't we seem to get rid of Gabnebb, jesus christ.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:40 (six years ago) link

One of my favorite things to do is to go to the theater by myself (pre-Netlfix). But this may depend where one lives. I have gone to loads of shows by myself as well, most likely because I never want to stand in the crowd where my friends want to stand anyway so I don't mind standing by myself.

Yerac, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link

OTM about trying to set up a new routine above. I am a big advocate for finding a class that meets on the regular for something that you would like to learn and that would challenge you. Something that would require an end goal/test for you to accomplish by a a deadline and would require you to study. It makes you really focused everywhere else, if you can can commit to it.

Yerac, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:45 (six years ago) link

Could we stop interacting with MV?

This is an atrociously wanky sentiment, but you never go to a movie alone, if there’s no-one else there you’re still there with the writers/director.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:45 (six years ago) link

highly recommend going to a movie alone
i still do it now and then

i mean, its not like you talk to anyone anyway, even if you do go with someone
(unless you are a disgusting savage)
it’s very pleasant & enjoyable imo

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:54 (six years ago) link

I saw a movie by myself yesterday and I was the only person in the theater

It was marvelous

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:54 (six years ago) link

We never got to go to movie theaters growing up, maybe once a year as a treat. So now I am like, fuck yeah!, I get to do what I want, whenever I want, by myself.

Yerac, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

chill guys I know it's probably perfectly normal to go to the cinema alone, I just never did it because generally there'd be the occasion of someone else coming along, which is lucky for me I guess :-) thanks though everyone

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link

what movie were you considering?

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

ah, a man of taste

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 23:47 (six years ago) link

I've seen 87 films in a cinema by myself in the last 12 months; in about 80 of those cases it was better than not seeing the films. dl I suggest going to some films that your ex wouldn't have gone to, or would have only gone to in order to keep you company - so the "odd" behaviour has different expectations to what coupled outings were like

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 10:18 (six years ago) link

think i will. there's a great arthouse cinema right nearby and if anything it would be a good exercise in going things alone

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 10:21 (six years ago) link

sic what magical cinema do you live nearby that would show that many good films??

niels, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link

you really were a garbage heap weren't you. it's been four months so i've had some time to cool but you just get worse in retrospect. damn i was desperate. you played me and i played you. what a huge lesson on what not to do.

map, Saturday, 7 April 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link

sic what magical cinema do you live nearby that would show that many good films??

off-topic but

in Sydney I lived fifteen minutes walk from Dendy Newtown, effectively the flagship for a chain that used to be an arthouse distributor, and now also run multi-screens showing big new releases with a smattering of indies.

(also half an hour from a major multiplex where I saw one film with a housemate last year, and not far from a pub that showed oddball and cult films on Tuesday nights, where I often went with friends)


I spent a couple of months in LA, where I had intended to live near a single-screen arthouse that operates a yearly subscription plan, but it closed down due to a decade-long sexual harassment situation being reported, in between me buying my ticket and getting on a plane. but I went to a few new releases at the Arclight, and a bunch of double-features and single matinees at the New Beverly, a revival house which only screens on 35mm and 16mm, with $8 double features + opening cartoons every night of the year, plus kids films on weekend afternoons, grindhouse midnights, etc.

(also saw a couple of '40s noirs at LACMA with friends.)


now in Seattle, within 10-30 minutes walk are:

a 16-screen multiplex where every single seat is an electric recliner with cup holders and tray tables [that takes Moviepass]

a 10+-screen multiplex with larger screens but less comfortable seats [takes MP]

-- both the multiplexes have odd runs of French and Japanese and Chinese and Australian and Iranian & al. new releases, and one takes part in national one-day remaster screenings (eg The African Queen, the director's cut of the musical Little Shop Of Horrors, The Dark Crystal, various Ghiblis)

a single-screen revival & rental house (mostly 80s and 90s, US and Japanese) where the seats are all half-booths to which you can order food and booze [MP]

a hand-built, volunteer-run non-profit arthouse with three screens, that runs one-offs, docos, foreign films, mini-festivals and the like [MP]

a Cinerama-capable single screen (one of three in the world) that otherwise has a 90-foot screen and the first commercial laser projection ever installed

a single screen in a 103-year-old theatre that's operated by the Seattle International Film Festival. they've had the likes of Shape Of Water, Death Of Stalin and a touring noir festival recently.

and the Seattle Art Museum, which shows films on Thursday night: just finished a run of Bergmans, now doing a few months of British Hitch talkies

plus 90 minutes walk north (30-50 by bus) is a falling-apart multiscreen that mostly shows new releases, but will also have one-week runs of things like Brian Taylor's recent parents-kill-kids horror comedy with Nic Cage & Selma Blair, Heather Graham's auteurist debut where she has sex with a younger Australian guy, and the latest Haneke. [MP]

90 minutes walk south (20-30 by tram) is a three-screener that mainly shows not BRAND new, but recent months' new releases, and also things like a three-week season of colour Hitchcocks, the Oscar-nommed shorts, odd horror one-offs, Le Roi de Couer (1966), Harold & Maude. This week they've got Purple Rain and Stop Making Sense running. [MP]

The Grand Illusion, a single-screen film-compatible arthouse is a little further north than the above, but I haven't found time to get to anything there. And SIFF operates two other theatres less than an hour's walk, but I've only made it to a six-hour pause-and-discuss screening of MMXXL (to which the director was going to come, but it was on his son's birthday, so he skyped in near the end).

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Monday, 9 April 2018 08:11 (six years ago) link

brb, moving to Seattle, realising after 5 years that I never actually go to any of these things.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 9 April 2018 08:24 (six years ago) link

wow sic that's impressive! seems you're a pretty dedicated cinephile too...

niels, Monday, 9 April 2018 11:46 (six years ago) link

The secret is you need a good repertory cinema nearby. But I think with Øst for Paradis collaborating with Cinemateket, it should be very doable in both Aarhus and Copenhagen.

Frederik B, Monday, 9 April 2018 12:56 (six years ago) link

there's never such a thing as a clean break eh?
a big problem right now is that I currently work with the person I broke up with upthread. turns out, from a text message exchange I had over the weekend, she's still holding out on the possibility of getting back together. She blames her history of anxiety issues on ruining our relationship and thinks that with counselling she can work to fix our relationship. I've tried to be clear that it's more than this, and that my decision is clear.
One of the big issues we had when we were together was a dismissal of my emotional needs (I was always 'being sensitive' or made to feel like I was 'making it all up' if I tried to address problem areas), and once again it feels like my own wishes are not being taken seriously - I don't really mean it when I say I don't want to get back together.
when we broke up, I wasn't quite ready to block her from my Facebook but I did try putting her on my acquaintances list. sure enough, I got asked why I did this and felt a bit silly and put her back on my regular list.
Then, if ever I post anything that might sound positive on FB I get a text saying something like 'glad to see you're having a nice time with your friends while I'm here feeling miserable' or somesuch, naturally not realising that I don't post about the time I nearly sobbed into my breakfast in front of my own dad this weekend etc..
Anyway the moral of the story is: if you break up with someone, even if you think you're able to remain friends in the future, just block them from social media, write down each others numbers, put them in a safe place and delete the number off your phones. Then work out how you're going to share the same piece of office carpet for 40 hours a week.

on the plus side, I've taken this as an opportunity to deactivate my Facebook account* despite really needing social interaction at the moment. I've spent way too much time in the last few weeks moronically scrolling through feeds and posting up every little brainfart I ever had. it's bad for me and it's time to start living life in a more productive way.

*by the way, has anyone tried this? FFS they really don't make it easy do they? I wanted to deactivate my account and it says CATEGORICALLY that you can deactivate Facebook while keeping Messenger going. But after going through the quite rigorous deactivation process and deleting the app, lo and behold after two hours it's magically reappeared on my phone and I've received an email saying that because I logged into Messenger, my Facebook account has been reactivated. What in the fucking fuckety fuck is going on?

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Monday, 9 April 2018 12:57 (six years ago) link

once again it feels like my own wishes are not being taken seriously - I don't really mean it when I say I don't want to get back together.

this reads strangely. I should clarify that it's she who doesn't believe I don't want to get back together

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Monday, 9 April 2018 13:00 (six years ago) link

While my own experience (see 77) has been remarkably different from yours, I've a friend who's going through something like what you describe DL. Her man just does not accept it's over. She's told him over and over and over and he thinks it's either: a) a power game, b) she's "not in her right mind", c) she has a fear of commitment, d) all of the above etc etc. It's just not getting through! He even said she needs therapy.. Yeah, no.
Her complication being they are living together. He's made no attempt whatsoever at leaving, because he really does not seem to believe she means what she says. He just thinks it's a "phase". Good lord. She's set an ultimatum for him to get out of her house, he's just not doing it. Afraid that can get really ugly.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 9 April 2018 13:05 (six years ago) link

also facebook screws with you and is the devil and complicates *everything*, break-ups are no exception. I feel you there.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 9 April 2018 13:05 (six years ago) link

jesus that's a lawyers/big friends/strychnine in the coffee situation

vermicious kid (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 April 2018 13:10 (six years ago) link

that sounds horrible LBI. jeez I guess I can relate on both sides. when my previous, longer term relationship broke down, it took me a long time to get out of the denial stage. we lived together in a limbonic cohabiting separation for three months before finally moving apart. really hope your friend can get the message through and that her ex sees sense

i stumbled on a podcast today (gotta do something now I'm off FB eh?) which is currently focusing on break ups. A big part of the message for 'dumpers' is their responsibility to be clear as possible without committing a character assassination.
one bit of advice was for them to begin with the things they've enjoyed about the relationship before explaining why their needs are not being fulfilled, which is good advice I guess. Then there was a whole bit about wanting to protect people's feelings and therefore coming off as ambiguous about the break up. it's fine and good advice but all people are different and take these things in completely different ways.

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Monday, 9 April 2018 13:14 (six years ago) link

another story in that podcast was about a guy who knocked on his ex girlfriend's door a year after their break up. they'd both been using an app that let's you pay for transactions for other people (so you can pay someone back for a coffee they bought you or something), and unless you mark them as so, these transactions are public. they can also include little comments, emojis etc.
So this guy was like 'I'm still able to see your transactions and it's eating me up because I can see you've bought this Joe guy a breakfast sandwich. I can see you've moved on with your life while I'm here a year later unable to move on with mine'.
Joe was a colleague. There was nothing to this transaction beyond friendship. But this guy had seen the transaction and created a whole narrative in his mind. And then he was bitter at his ex for getting over the breakup before him.
In turn, she felt angry because not only had this guy invented a whole scenario based on a social media transaction, but he had failed to consider the weeks and months where she had cried and felt terrible and sorry for herself post-breakup. She felt as though she'd done the necessary healing and mending work to get back on her feet, while he was blaming her for his inability to do the same.

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Monday, 9 April 2018 13:24 (six years ago) link

that sounds horrible LBI. jeez I guess I can relate on both sides. when my previous, longer term relationship broke down, it took me a long time to get out of the denial stage. we lived together in a limbonic cohabiting separation for three months before finally moving apart. really hope your friend can get the message through and that her ex sees sense

Yeah, same here. And I understand it's a tough break after 8 years, but... It's her house, he moved in with her. She's been very strong and adamant about not wanting to leave her home, but is staying with friends this week, just because the toxic atmosphere became too much to bear (and he actually believes she went away this week to "think about things", ie. sees it as a chance she'll come back and say she made a mistake or whatever. Which is def not the case, she explicitly told him she can't stand his ignorance and refusal to LISTEN to her. It's just not getting through. Or he's playing a game himself. If his behaviour doesn't change I too fear lawyers will have to be involved. She tried to avoid it also because he'll be out on the street, and has little to no money, but there's no other way. This has been dragging on for a month now, and he's getting very pass-agg. No joke: yesterday he 'gifted' her a first aid kit, for her to use to 'fix' the relationship. That's when she knew she had to get the hell out of there... o_O)

Strychnine in his cuppa sounds about right. Will see if LJ can hook me up with the Russians.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 9 April 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link

oh.. God.. Love. If there's one thing that drives people mad huh?

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Monday, 9 April 2018 14:04 (six years ago) link

Anyway the moral of the story is: if you break up with someone, even if you think you're able to remain friends in the future, just block them from social media, write down each others numbers, put them in a safe place and delete the number off your phones.

this advice is timely since i woke up this morning to a notification on my fone saying "X has joined Signal!". the only reason she would have installed an encrypted messenger for dorks is that she must be seeing some dork who made her install it. on top of that instagram constantly recommending that i follow her etc etc. our breakup was more or less amicable, she's still a good person and i cherish the years we had, so i feel weird deleting her off my fone. but jesus fuck these social media apps and their notifications just will not stfu

brendon urine (diamonddave85), Monday, 9 April 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link

we use it as a communication tool especially re: the children but tbh yeah it's not that i'm jealous or wish her anything but joy it's just painful sometimes to see her life with me not in it

vermicious kid (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 April 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link

and i guess a question for the folks in the thread: how long is too long iyo for the memory to still get you choked up? it's been a year since my breakup and i'd say i'm doing well but whenever i remember my old life, her family, the places we visited, our home, the failed relationship, i still get teary eyed. surely i should be past that at this point?

brendon urine (diamonddave85), Monday, 9 April 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link

i'll tell you if it wears off. it's been 6 years.

vermicious kid (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 April 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link

how long is too long iyo for the memory to still get you choked up?

There's no "too long". It's ok. xp

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 9 April 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link

well good to know that it's normal, thanks all

brendon urine (diamonddave85), Monday, 9 April 2018 14:48 (six years ago) link

the gaps get wider and the quality of the sadness/remorse changes over time tbf

vermicious kid (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 April 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link

'these things heal with time'... well yes and no. it ebbs and flows. you might find that three days out of a relationship the feeling of catharsis and relief has you feeling invincible. Eight months later you find an old t-shirt in a drawer...

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Monday, 9 April 2018 16:04 (six years ago) link

yeah, definitely. during my last big breakup i almost felt guilty about how happy i felt 2 weeks later. i felt like i had a new lease on life, i wanted to go out every night, i started making plans for camping trips and took up duolingo and devoured books in coffeeshops. my ex even got mad at me about how happy i seemed to be, like "why weren't you were like this before? it's all i wanted!" but then a few months later, just unending waves of sadness and regret, no hope at all. but as NV says, the gaps get wider. the euphoria of the near-aftermath dissipates but so do the unexpected crying incidents.

Karl Malone, Monday, 9 April 2018 16:11 (six years ago) link

otm to all of that. no euphoria here tho, mostly feeling v sad for the other half. which won't do her any good, i know.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 9 April 2018 16:23 (six years ago) link

feeling sad for the other person is a big thing. knowing that someone's in pain because of you, well... maybe it doesn't concern some people as much, but for me it's a nightmare.

i'm back at work today after a bit of a break away, and as expected it's a very tense and unnatural atmosphere to be in.

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link

you didn't like herzog. or tarkovsky. or free jazz. and you made me turn off king krule and forced me to listen to ray lamontagne. other than that you were a spectacular person. but ... look, i don't even care about the free jazz. but ray lamontagne was a total deal breaker. peace b with u.

the late great, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

<3

marcos, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 18:36 (six years ago) link

hahaha

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link

the man is a troubadour!

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link

lol

map, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link

coming to good consensus music picks is difficult, best to have shared tastes that neither of you are that into for a trial period so you don't come to associate anything you truly love with an ex

alvin noto (mh), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link

Cheers to Noodle Vague, diamdonddave85, and others in the long-term breakup-sadness crew. It's coming up on six years since my big breakup, and it's true, the sadness comes and goes unpredictably.

Tonight I've been reflecting, for about the millionth time, on the fact that there are things she could tell me--about what our relationship was really like for her, especially at the end, and how she perceives it now--that could change the way I feel about myself and my life profoundly. But we'll never talk about these things. I doubt she thinks about them at all now, and I certainly don't want to reveal that I do. For better or for worse, I'll never know. Usually I'm alright with that, given that the truth could devastate me. But sometimes the frustration of not knowing is just too much.

JRN, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 05:33 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

where is the bottom

DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:13 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

God you think you're alright, you think you're through it, you feel independent and actually find yourself enjoying the mild thrill of all that. Then you decide to take yourself off somewhere one mildly-hungover afternoon when your senses are a bit all over the place and instantly realise that the only time you went there before was 10 years ago when romance was still blossoming and it was with her and suddenly the emotion it's ambushing...

Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 12:05 (five years ago) link

Hugs dude.

I dunno, those feelings are testament to something that was worthwhile and at least that's something. It beats not feeling anything.

he's one of our pwn (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 12:08 (five years ago) link

<3

Heard a new word the other day 'tabanca', a West Indian term that Google describes as 'a painful feeling of unrequited love, typically for a former lover and causing unbalanced or violent behaviour'.

Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 12:12 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

Discovered the opposite of a seven year itch. In the last couple of weeks I've dreamt about my ex 4 or 5 times - dreams of still being together or of breaking apart. You're not helping, subconscious.

moaty, boaty, big and bloaty (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 January 2019 12:25 (five years ago) link

I wonder if it's a "thing" -- i remember going through it around that time. Realized yesterday that I have no logical reason to have a kitchen table, because I drink coffee in bed and eat in front of the tv, though my ex would have his morning coffee at that table, but he hasn't lived with me for 9 years, so I might as well move that table into the room I use as my office, where it would be useful, and then I can have more room for storage where the kitchen table is now.

sarahell, Monday, 14 January 2019 19:54 (five years ago) link

I'm sure it is a thing. I'm under the weather and depressive atm and I'm dealing with that consciously as best as I know how so this is Probly some escape valve for my brain. The recurrence is unsettling and annoying tho

moaty, boaty, big and bloaty (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 January 2019 20:59 (five years ago) link

also winter

sarahell, Monday, 14 January 2019 21:02 (five years ago) link

Yeah, especially the darkness

moaty, boaty, big and bloaty (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 January 2019 21:06 (five years ago) link

when you find things you hate/have no use for/think are ugly but somehow kept hanging around because your ex liked them and they literally became part of the furniture. Getting rid of those things can be very liberating

frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 12:21 (five years ago) link

i haven't directly read or watched marie kondo, but as i understand, you should ask yourself if those items bring you joy, and then say thank you to them before discarding

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link

i definitely did not follow that advice the last time i was getting over a breakup. i believe i just held the items in my hand for a while, crying, before throwing them in the garbage and drinking heavily

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 16:35 (five years ago) link

i moved the table into my office, moved my music gear around to take advantage of the space left by the table and actually played/practiced. I am accepting that I won't have that romantic domesticity anymore, and I'm just gonna be a single person with space to play percussion and electronics and have a bunch of books and that is fine.

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link

Drifting towards a similar realisation but not quite at the "it's fine" stage most days

stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:20 (five years ago) link

heh - it's only been "fine" for 3 days so ... and it's been 9 years since we split. I feel like I suck at getting over breakups considering how long it's been. The other posters in this thread seem way better at it than me.

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:23 (five years ago) link

I'm mostly over the breakup, despite the last couple of weird weeks. I think part of the process of getting over it was recognising how much it was my fault, and waking up to my bad behaviour. I think that's also partly why I'm resigning myself to a single future - it's hard to meet people looking for a relationship as you get older, and I really don't feel like I'm a catch, or trust myself to do the work to become one, :/

stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:31 (five years ago) link

you proposed to plax yesterday!

topical mlady (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:32 (five years ago) link

I know but they never replied ;_;

stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:34 (five years ago) link

He likes oatmeal iirc

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:34 (five years ago) link

anyway <3 to all obv

topical mlady (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link


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