I hate coffee

additionally if you take milk you are incorrect.

I was going to make this exact same joke.

Pak n Save doesn't sell Lipton lime & ginseing herbal tea anymore, i am sad.

do any of these people still post to ilx?

Caffeine deficiency slowed them down so much that they all got run over by a bus.

no one hates coffee

i like to mate

i think i hate it now

i like the name "fergus noodle" though

yr doing it rong

no one hates coffee

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it's true i don't know how to make it anymore, it always tastes like acid it's disgusting please help

i fill the coffeemaker up to the 8

4 regular scoops, 2 heaping scoops

i think the scoop holds a tablespoon? will check.

this makes 4 cups. use this same ratio when i make less coffee

thanks mr que but i don't think i can even learn

no you can - i have faith

you need coffee

nothing makes me distrust people more than when they don't like coffee--i can even (barely) forgive someone for not liking Creedence, but coffee. . .??

i don't really like creedence mr que i mean it's ok it's just not me

i like coffee if someone else makes it but that gets kind of $$$

okay i'm going to take a deep breath here and reevaluate

one mistake was this week i got 8 o'clock garbage coffee and it's like ground up pennies or something, but it was bad before that

oh geez--do you mean chock full of nuts? my #1 piece of advice=buy the very best coffee you can afford. like buy the shit that smells like drugs. it should be a rich blackish color, not pale brown maxwell house shit

i fill the coffeemaker up to the 8

4 regular scoops, 2 heaping scoops

That's some strong coffee!

Also, can even (barely) forgive someone for not liking Creedence, but coffee. . .?? = LOL

ugh i wanna die

i like irish coffee

it's strong, but not too strong. no one has ever complained (besides mother in law, who just jokes about it). it's not bitter, either.

i like strong, black, not acidic, chocolaty-ish

i get compliments all the time, when people drink my coffee

harbl i think you might like the whole foods pacific rim or pleasant morning buzz.

i am almost out of my giant stash of bladucci's beans but i guess that's ok bc i am moving to a good coffee city.

one thing: always buy beans and grind yr own.
also i get compliments.
also always buy beans and grind yr own. it's really gross, the reason (incidentally i heard this on terry gross' show!).

i got a bialetti and i think i just hit the sweet spot cuz i have been makin some really great not-actually-espresso recently

pleasant morning buzz is what we jam at our house

jam on, friend.

i make coffee strong, but half it with warm milk, then add nutmeg and honey in the evening.

i'll drink it black in the mornings tho.

wait what is the reason? am i brewing coffee made of ground up bugs or poop? xp

pleasant morning poop

yeah, ground up cockroaches mixed in with yo beans :(

i don't grind my beans--i buy preground or grind at the store. bug poop never hurt anyone

i have been grinding my own lately but usually i don't. it makes a mess and is not very consistent grind. i have a cheap krups coffee grinder. i don't know where whole foods is but maybe i have to go there. why can't i just go to safeway?! geez what an ordeal

yeah i like to store grind, works ok imo

do not buy coffee at safeway

i think eating a ground up cockroach is pretty safe though

que if you grind at the store from whole beans you should be ok. it's that the beans that are being ground and pre-packaged sit in the processing areas/warehouses and bugs get in (kind of unavoidable).

i have a mr. coffee grinder and it has worked like a dream for like 9 years!

ive always hated coffee. i cant even stand the smell. it seems like it probably tastes like licking Arnold Schwarzenegger's armpit circa 1987.

still LOLs @ 'so you can look cool in front of your mates' though

i have a feeling we eats lots of bugs anyway--it's unavoidable

oh yeah i have never bought pre-ground especially because i french press and it's not coarse enough then

i knew i could count on IRE for culinary advice ;-)

so the reason they talked about it on this gross show was because the guest had a colleague who had developed a cockroach allergy (apparently all people will with enough exposure) and could no longer drink coffee unless it was from freshly ground beans (not preground) and so he made dude drive all over the place to find fresh ground coffee when they were out on trips doing research or whatever. maybe it was just a cruel joke from boss to employee?

about to drink some safeway coffee right now!!

INGREDIENTS: 100% ARABICA COFFEE, ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS

oh you are so close to a suggest ban

u were right mr que

experience is a non transferable commodity

I have trouble finding the right balance of coffee and sugar(I tend to make it too sweet). Out of convenience, I buy Starbucks' ground coffee. I know there are a lot of specialty coffee brands available online, but I have no idea what's good and what's pedestrian-to-terrible.

so the reason they talked about it on this gross show was because the guest had a colleague who had developed a cockroach allergy (apparently all people will with enough exposure) and could no longer drink coffee unless it was from freshly ground beans (not preground) and so he made dude drive all over the place to find fresh ground coffee when they were out on trips doing research or whatever. maybe it was just a cruel joke from boss to employee?

you cut this guy loose, is what you do.

i can't stand coffee w/ sugar for some reason

Do you mean you like coffee black, or with a sugar-substitute (like Splenda)?

coffee w/sugar is for children

I can't stand coffee with sugar either. And I don't mean because I have a sugar-substitute instead.

unless it is iced coffee, i guess

yeah, black. i only ever put milk in it if it tastes burnt (like if it is from starbucks). if there's sugar in it i can't finish it at all.

I use 1% milk but never sugar.

Sometimes splenda but that's only if I'm having it as a dessert or something.

u could prob find good coffee locally that is not starbucks btw--my friend orders from deansbeans.com in MA but if you don't buy enough at a time the shipping can cost as much as the coffee. whole foods is not convenient to get to but i went to different grocery store and found some that is good and costs the same as safeway crap. i am happy now. the last few weeks i have been just wanting to take a nap all day :(

The Midwest is completely married to drinking coffee black, they will mercilessly mock anyone who doctors it. However, in NYC and Boston and I don't know where else, "light and sweet" is considered "the usual", and everyone from cops to truck drivers to construction workers take their coffee w milk and sugar. Just another reason to love New York, I sez.

btw i've recently become the proud owner of one of those bialetti stovetop deals, and there's a place a block away that roasts the beans on the premises, so

drinkin iced coffee from a jam jar right now, iirc

I love the Bialetti-style coffee! I need to replace my old one, I guess they do get mucky and worn after a while. Also it was straight aluminum and I think I want a better quality version next time. Add to half a cup of hot milk and you get instant morning.

apparently you are not supposed to clean them with anything but cold water????

"light and sweet" is considered "the usual"

Yes here they just say "regular" and that means l&s. It's very hard to explain this to people not from the US who might order a regular coffee just meaning filtered and not a latte or something. JUST SAY COFFEE!! s,dhng;liwehGBRG.

Yeah! Actually I usually have to ask for way less sugar, delis will PILE that shit in.

ditto dunkin donuts

tho my friend vijay swears up and down that dunkin donuts coffee is its own drink, wholly apart from "real coffee"

i hate that i just spilled my coffee on the rug

I drink my coffee pretty in the mornings and black in the afternoons.

Didja know that coffee is considered a "clear liquid" in regards to medical testing and scans? In other words, if you're getting your guts checked out and have to fast for eight hours, you can still drink coffee and water. Go figure.

tho my friend vijay swears up and down that dunkin donuts coffee is its own drink, wholly apart from "real coffee"

― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:58 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

yr friend vijay is otmfm.

I did not get regularly coffeed for 2 weeks and it was really hard! Then I got used to it and I think i'm weaned now but I will go back to my usual coffee ways for sure why bc I love it. I love coffee! I am not ashamed!

I used to hate coffee until about five or six months ago. Thought it tasted like an ash tray full of boiling water. Turns out you just add sugar and then your life gets better.

http://fantes.com/images/121072turkish.jpg

I have a small one of these^. Enough for one or two cups.

And also a bigger, prettier decorated one.

Also hav a bialetti : )

and by cup i mean these little fellas: http://i40.tinypic.com/3354lg5.jpg

is bialetti just a percolator?

"stove top espresso". the water boils and the steam comes up through the filter filled w/ coffee.

so a percolator

yepp

..i don't know exactly what Americans consider percolators tho tbh

they look like this

http://lh5.ggpht.com/GRO148/SOPmLObNolI/AAAAAAAAA7M/_fWno05-D7w/s800/DancingGuy1.gif

i want a percolator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVTvzqIHiNk&autoplay=1&loop=1

http://www.myemoticons.com/emoticons/images/msn/smiley-in-action/coffee.gif

glad you've come around to coffee, the drink of the gods

i am having coffee issues. this one tastes burnt. the one before was too acidic. asldkcj.

moving causes coffee problems

no this is newly bought since move, silly!

oh wait. i switched words and read 'moving coffee causes problems.'

but yeah, you are right. :(

how do you know i didn't mean "moving causes problems for coffee"............

great wav embed... <3

i guess sugar is ok in iced coffee. i just made simple syrup for this purpose. what would happen if you put mint syrup in it? gross? because i have some mint in the fridge i could have syruped

mint coffee omg what is wrong w. u

i was just wondering, what would happen and if anyone has tried it. that's all

what would happen is disaster

tho simple syrup sounds like a sweet plan

get it

sweet?

Mint coffee sounds foul. You know what else is foul? The fact that Dunkin Donuts has BERRY flavored coffee. Who on Earth thinks that's a good idea?!

sounds like a BERRY BAD idea

yeah that's disgusting

:/

http://www.1883coffeesyrups.co.uk/images/syrup10.jpg

yeah see? someone out there likes it

Have you tried mint coffee yet? Was it good?

no i didn't make mint syrup yet! i was thinking about berry coffee this morning. it's gross but maybe they meant it to be like coffee that has berry-like overtones? like yirgacheffe or something maybe. anyway it sounds like a complete failure

i have actually had mint syrup in iced coffee it is not so bad but i only put a tiny bit in. also i used to get turkish coffee at this place and they would put an andes mint in the bottom which was a pleasant surprise at the end!

i made a whole bunch of infused simple syrups a while ago and so when i had iced coffee i figured mint was the best choice (over tamarind, lemon, and rosemary) since i had no plain syrup.

xpost to original poster

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_M2cobFMPcGo/SJ4pglt9dUI/AAAAAAAAL64/GVNASQZFlcY/s400/what+the+fuck+cat.jpg

^^^ this has me stuck off the realness 1 time

makin some mexican coffee tomorrow

amped

Webber still hates coffee. He keepin' it real

i like turkish coffee. it's kind of minty with the cardamom in it, i guess

If/when I go to gf's family bbqs etc and the turkish (lebanese) coffee is busted out some of the ladies read ur fortune from how the dregs sit in ur cup.

I've had someone read the grounds in my turkish coffee before! I don't believe in that kind of thing at all but it's interesting to me that it's a thing.

Harbl I am tempted to get the berry coffee on my way to work this morning just to see if it's as disgusting as I assume it will be.

I've never had turkish coffee but it scares me more than mint coffee.

I got the berry coffee. Am regretting it.

ppl who drink coffee with soy milk: do you find that it separates really easily? i feel like unless it's the perfectly balanced blend, this happens all the time. it's annoying. not as annoying as separated milk/cream, though.

could be the temp, try rice milk

Yeah I have that problem too T.

my percolator is dying. I ended up pouring the hot water directly into the part where the grounds go and let it filter through, and it made really good coffee. I realized that the percolator hadn't made really good coffee in a while.

I just realised I've been spending baot $30 on takeaway coffees per week. It's worth it tbh.

We get free coffee at work, which I keep trying to convince myself is a really great employee perk, but it's like drinking boiled dishwater. It's the worst coffee I've ever had. And it's kinda weak, I like my coffee like a mule kick to the skull. I think I'm joining Wilter in this takeaway habit.

make your own you will save hundreds

There's so much temptation with there being a Starbucks right downstairs! Their long blacks give me the awesomest caffeine high. I think I need an espresso machine.

starbucks? really?
seriously, make your own.

lol yeah. I only get long blacks though, if I could make espresso at home I wouldn't be fuckin with 'em.

we got a deese espresso machine at work. short/long blacks are tolerable, milky coffee tastes horrid tho

what is a long black? is that a nz thing?

espresso shot on hot water iirc? mebbe two shots?

Yeah it's a double over hot water.

so like an americano.

wiki shite:

A long black is a style of coffee, most commonly found in Australia and New Zealand, made by pulling a double-shot of espresso over hot water (usually the water is also heated by the espresso machine). A long black is similar to an Americano, which is made by adding hot water to espresso shots, but it retains the crema and is less voluminous, therefore more strongly flavoured.

The order in which a long black is made (water first, espresso second) is important; reversing the steps will destroy the crema from the espresso shots.

Short black is an Australasian synonym for the basic espresso.

i don't like milky coffees, they often taste bad to me, i like long blacks, no sugar.

they're the good stuff i am looking fwd to them

i will hook u up.

some day i will buy my v own espresso machine and have crema-topped delights every day!

i don't like milky coffees, they often taste bad to me, i like long blacks, no sugar.

― estela

I mostly go for flat whites tbh, but yuh short or long blacks are the safest option if u don't know if the coffee at a place is shitty or not

*jitter jitter*

drinking coffee right now. lately it doesn't seem hot enough (using the same amount of same temp soy as always though). i think i need a good coffee maker. i did find a better bean, though!

http://blog.cleveland.com/scoopdujour_impact/2009/02/small_Organic_Bolivian_Blend.jpg

still french pressin
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-83541731568785_2048_1970675

my coffee has improved 900% since i revived this thread on may 20, 2009

congrats

http://unfunf.netfirms.com/cool.gif

http://www.madeindesign.co.uk/imgcmp-Platebowlcup--Mug-A-di-Alessi-refajm28-89%5B0%5D.jpghttp://media.photobucket.com/image/thumbs%20up/Gavin_C/thumbs_up_two_5.jpg

That didn't work.

hey everyone deansbeans.com has free shipping this week
i wanna buy a bunch but my coffee grinder is too crappy

i got this super cheap mr coffee grinder like 10 years ago and it still works perfectly.

maybe everyone else can use them but me? it's a krups blade grinder. it really, really sucks.

wait does it look like this
http://base1.googlehosted.com/base_media?q=http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001O2X0A.16._MZZZZZZZ_.jpg&size=4&dhm=321b3540&hl=en&mode=1

i have this one

http://marybakes.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/krups_twin_blade_grinder_500x500.jpg

i have one that's the same design as omar's

yeah that's exactly what i have

what's the problem you're having?

i get some coffee ground to dust and other coffee like the size of 1/4 bean. in the same batch. and i'm not putting too much in. it wouldn't be so bad if it was drip but it comes through the mesh of the french press thing when it's fine like that.

please help omar

I've never used a coffee grinder. Does buying whole beans and using one really make it that much better?

with a french press, you are "supposed to" use the coarsest grind ... i know my grinder doesn't have any settings. There are fancy supermarkets that have grinders with different settings. I love these things.

i think it would because i buy them whole and grind them in the store and it's always best the first 2 days or so, and that's what experts say. but no it's not that bad for the rest of the 1.5-2 weeks a pound lasts me. dunno.

i think i could figure out how to make it grind coarse (i usually just counted to 6 or 7) if the grind was consistent. but it's not.

yeah, my advice would be to take it to the store and stealthily use their machines.

*grabs toolbox*

i've never had problems with mine, i usually make about four cups in the morning so i scoop out about four spoonfuls of coffee beans and grind them for 6-7 seconds.

does it sound normal when it's grinding? any weird noises?

hmmm. how you brew it?

sounds totally normal

yeah, my advice would be to take it to the store and stealthily use their machines.

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haha i always think about this

didn't you say in another thread that you have a large purse? That'd be perfect.

i use a french press too, and i gave up on ineptly grinding my own beans and get them ground at the store when i buy them. i buy a kilo every two weeks and it doesn't deteriorate especially and it's much simpler.

yeah :(

i wish i could have some coffee right now! but i'll be up till 2 if i do

i have a 2 cup french press and a larger-sized percolator ... the percolator, for some reason, probably due to needing to be scrubbed, will brew half coffee and half hot water, so I'll pour the water back in through the grounds compartment, which is annoying and inconvenient.

however, it only does this when I use it and not when the bf uses it.

my policy is that coffee is an aid and should not be difficult.

get rid of that gaslighting perc.

you know what i want to get someday is one of these:

http://teddycoffee.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/chemex_coffeemaker.jpg

i don't have a french press....i want one of those as well.

this place called la mill is right down the street from me, it's a coffee boutique. this is their drink menu.

http://www.lamillcoffee.com/pdf/lamill-coffee-drink-menu.pdf

the french press fits my policy that everything should be a struggle

i also sometimes forget i put hot water in it and don't remember until 15 minutes later (you're supposed to wait just 4 minutes). still good!

wait is that $6 for 16 oz. of french press coffee?!

the french press reassures me that I can still have coffee if the electricity goes out.

also, I've developed a pleasant morning routine of smoking a cigarette out the kitchen window to time the wait before plunging.

i'm like theresa, i've had the same cheap coffee grinder for like 10 years with no problem.

i've never understood the thing about using a coarse grind for a french press. well i understand that you don't want the grounds to seep through the screen but whenever i try a coarse grind, the coffee tastes weak. so i grind it fine and it doesn't really clog up the filter and the coffee is good. i also tend to let the water sit way too long before pushing the plunger down

the coarse grind/french press thing was something i learned from an ex-boyfriend who was indoctrinated with this while working at starbucks.

yeah you don't have to do it the coarsest but i do one tick back from coarse and it's pretty strong. what annoys me about the cheap grinder is so many beans don't get ground up enough. i can deal with a little mud. i think i'm just the only person in the world who can't use a coffee grinder properly.

i think the coarsest is for turkish and the second coarsest is french press ...

no turkish is really fine! powdery

the machines at the supermarket just have pictures

i think the second coarsest is usually meant for percolator

mine doesn't have different settings, you just hold down the button for longer periods of time

yeah i mean the grocery store's grinder settings

or "supermarket" if you prefer lol

i think there are different ones for electric and non-electric percolators ... with non-electric being coarser

i also have one of these but it makes weak coffee
http://coffeegeek.com/images/5823/200x200/melittamanual.jpg

i know a guy that had one of those and he'd brew the coffee then microwave it

you have a lot of coffee problems harbl

i know, i'm not good at coffee. as i said.

i used to grind my coffee at home but i didn't notice a huge difference so i just grind it at the store. also, i have gotten *multiple* compliments on my coffee, so. . .

hmm this guy says he has perfected manual drip. maybe i'll go back to it next time i buy a pound, just to remember what it's like.

this is insanity

I hear that the optimum brew temperature is around 208 degrees Fahrenheit. Since it’s boiling at 212 at my current elevation, I simply turn off the gas and swish it around a bit.

Here I am “blooming” the coffee by saturating it with water for between 15 and 45 seconds. Note the bubbles as the coffee expands like foam. This is carbon dioxide escaping, which helps the grounds stay submerged in the water instead of floating during the brewing. Now, I don’t know if any of this is true or not, but it is kinda fun to watch the coffee foam up.

well i want to grind it at home so i can buy more coffee at a time on the internet (cheaper) but i guess it's not such a big deal

yeah i would not bloom the coffee. tbh i think the manual drip makes coffee to acidic somehow. i also like my coffee oily.

too

Here I am “blooming” the coffee by saturating it with water for between 15 and 45 seconds.

starbucks ex taught me to do this as well.

pfff

lame

i don't like starbux anyway!

i have no idea whether it actually does anything, but i do this with french press coffee out of habit, and it comes out great.

thinking about carbon dioxide=you're thinking too much about chemistry, and not enough about coffee

i'm not really thinking about carbon dioxide ... it was just one of the steps he used, and i'd never used a french press before dating him, so i just followed his steps

mr. que what kind of coffee maker do you use

i just use a drip maker and really good coffee (whole foods morning buzz)

i make mine the trad way but it usually ends up being vv strong and proper. i get beans from these dudes, they've got a lot of good shit.

http://www.coffeecellar.com/

i have a cuisinart coffee maker

is it the cuisinart grindnbrew

oh wait that wouldn't make any sense would it

yeah i think half of it is i make it strong

anyway my parents have that and it makes good coffee but if you use it wrong (like me) it will spill hot water all over the counter. actually i think it's broken.

let's give it up for coffee, the greatest creation in the history of the world

harbl you need a coffee intervention--i'm worried about you

xp mr que - that's the same kind that we use - i think it's the cheapest they sell.

it's this one here

http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DCC-1150BK-Programmable-Thermal-Coffeemaker/dp/B000TQEDE4/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1253577331&sr=1-3

i get http://zekescoffee.net/ it's good

i do need a coffee intervention

i know how to make everything. except coffee.

once i was grinding my coffee at whole foods and some *asshole* came up to me and told me i was "grinding the coffee too much." thanks for the advice, buttmunch.

haha. more like whole *rude*s

i fill the coffeemaker up to the 8

4 regular scoops, 2 heaping scoops

i think the scoop holds a tablespoon? will check.

this makes 4 cups. use this same ratio when i make less coffee

― Mr. Que, Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:18 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what? if yours has the same type of machines as ours, it's just an on/off switch that pretty much just starts and stops the coffee going through the grinder.

i make very strong coffee, which i drink black, when i make it for other people who have milk in their coffee i give them a little insincere prepared speech about how i only have skim milk and that is why their coffee looks like pitch.

we use a black and decker smart brew or something. we just grabbed a brewer at the store. months later, we're watching America's test Kitchen on PBS (lol yuppies) and they picked our coffee maker as the best. i would love to investigate alternative forms of coffee making someday (french press, etc0 but for now we're good.

i don't think i really do anything wrong when i make coffee tbh. i think god ruins it bc he hates me

it's been good lately though. the only thing i'm mad at is the grinder.

i think you have a negative attitude towards coffee and you need to get a stiff upper lip and get your act together. God wants you to have delicious coffee--why do you keep foiling his plan

why

maybe you are tasting it wrong.

xp - estela: i drink coffee black as well ... a while back i brought this party-sized coffee maker (that I rarely use) to use for a reception for work, and people complained that the coffee was too weak after they put milk in it. I questioned (not directly, mind you) why they put milk in it.

i am going to try to have a positive attitude toward coffee

awes

i sometimes add milk to my coffee but only a splash of rice milk. btw soy milk + coffee is the most disgusting act of coffee savagery known to man.

soy milk is weird

i've never fallen for soy milk.

i've dropped some before.

french press is good for me because when i had a drip coffee maker i never cleaned it and it got all gross but you basically have to wash the french press every day if you want coffee the next day so there's MOTIVATION

soy milk starts to separate from the coffee and then your coffee begins to look like a congealing irish car bomb

ridiculous but true.

i clean the french press sometimes. i don't take it apart every day though.

guys let me answer some of your questions (coming from someone who has spent way too much time researching how to make coffee)

i get some coffee ground to dust and other coffee like the size of 1/4 bean. in the same batch. and i'm not putting too much in. it wouldn't be so bad if it was drip but it comes through the mesh of the french press thing when it's fine like that.

― harbl, Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:01 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

that's cause you're using a blade grinder, which has no control over the consistency of the grind. burr grinders, which are $$$, let you control the size/consistency of the grind

the reason why buying whole bean coffee and grinding it yourself is better is cause of the whole freshness thing. coffee gets stale due to oxidization. when coffee is in bean form, the total surface area of the coffee is significantly less than when you grind it up. grinding right before brewing ensures the freshness of the bean.

you don't necessarily need a coarse grind to use with a french press; you want a grind that's just slightly bigger than openings in the metal sieve. this is difficult to achieve with a blade grinder.

but i knew both of those things

all 3 of those things

haha, then I don't understand why you're whinging about having a bad coffee grinder

because i can't afford a burr grinder and i thought maybe there was some secret to using it that makes everyone else so happy with theirs

turns out they just have low standards ^_^

the secret is using it with an Aeropress

or getting a pour over brewer with a cloth filter

whinging??????

i'll just use an old sock

oh yeah i meant to add that i was not whinging ty

or getting a manual hand grinder

http://coffeegeek.com/images/42307/200x200/hario_mini_mill.jpg

you know, if you just hated coffee you would avoid all this drama

velkommen

you may even try the latest in coffee science, a swiss gold one cup pour over brewer

https://www.coffeesupreme.com/images/products/detail/product_157_detail_1250051953.jpg

*shakes head dejectedly*

"coffee science"

Mr. Que, I, too, was using the term ironically

if you like your coffee oily harbl then maybe the other thing you could try is a moka pot

yeah i'll probably get one someday

dyao what the hell is that aeropress bullshit

it makes a good cuppa (little bit thin cause you're pressing all the oils out. still hell of a lot stronger than drip). it's really big among coffee geeks. some call it the poor man's Clover.

don't rush on the moka, harbl, it's better to dream about a thing than to get it and find out it's a fizzer.

that's like my life motto estela lol

xp does it make both brewed and espresso--how does it do that?

despite what they'll tell you, it still doesn't rate against a properly drawn espresso. but it's a pretty cheap way to get high quality coffee at home. works well with a blade grinder, since you can just chop the beans up until they're all dust. xp

know what iirc one of the best cups of coffee i ever had was french press w/ a blade grinder. so it's obv my fault

i mean, i didn't make it. it had cardamom and cacao nibs ground with the coffee. i stll think baout it

mmmmm

maybe you should try adding cardamom and cacao nibs to your current beans then

i do sometimes!

http://www.hersheycanada.com/en/products/details/twizzlers/images/full_nibs.jpg

i have a french press and espresso machine and burr grinder but here are the things that drive me crazy about coffee:

bean freshness--i am just one dude and don't go through shit fast enough
keeping everything clean is maddening

that all sounds overwhelming, perhaps you should take up tea bags instead.

that sounds snide, perhaps i should take up stfuing instead.

hahaha i mean i'm just bitchin i recognize that these are my problems not the world's

yeah I didn't mean to come on to this thread and be all "man up and stop whinging"

let me give you all a http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2008/11/06/bunny_1.jpg

call all destroyer, how many beans are you buying at a time? I'm lucky in that I've always lived next to a local roaster who does things up for me in 1/4 or 1/2 lb quantities.

as for keeping everything clean it's a lost cause :o(

that's awesome--if i could buy 1/4 lb at a time i probably would brew a lot more coffee than i do.

what type of container do u keep it in

I used to store it in one of those cute airtight glass jars with the orange rubber seal. in a dark cupboard, naturally.

this thread has inspired me to finally pick up some more coffee. a good yirgacheffe, or maybe mocca harrar.

i had a plastic tupperware-like thing; also just the regular coffee bag thoroughly folded and tied shut

"beer is cheaper than coffee" where, in backwards land? Coffee is like 2-3 dollars a cup, beer is minimum 5 or 6 dollars a schooner/pint.

let's give it up for coffee, the greatest creation in the history of the world

― Mr. Que, Monday, September 21, 2009 4:55 PM

let's give it up for coffee, the greatest creation in the history of the world

― Mr. Que, Monday, September 21, 2009 4:55 PM

let's give it up for coffee, the greatest creation in the history of the world

― Mr. Que, Monday, September 21, 2009 4:55 PM

let's give it up for coffee, the greatest creation in the history of the world

― Mr. Que, Monday, September 21, 2009 4:55 PM

let's give it up for coffee, the greatest creation in the history of the world

― Mr. Que, Monday, September 21, 2009 4:55 PM

let's give it up for coffee, the greatest creation in the history of the world

― Mr. Que, Monday, September 21, 2009 4:55 PM

my never fail method is usually: pour beans into grinder til approximately full. grind. dump into filter basket. add water btw 6 and 7 c line on pot. brew. sometimes i go a lil stronger. i am not allowed to make the coffee at my grandparents' house bc they use like half the coffee i do and make gross brown water and think i am trying to poison them if i make it the right way.

is the bag made of paper? brown paper is still permeable and lets oxygen in; and even with tightly wrapped bags made of foil or plastic there's still some air seepage. tupperware is fine, if it has the rubber lining at the top to form an airtight seal. I usually get about 2 weeks, starting from the roast date, out of my beans. xxxp

yeah. i put about 3/4 of the grounds in one of those airtight jars with a latch and the rest in the bag just because the jar's not big enough. wouldn't use the bag for more than a few days or coffee will start to taste like blah.

is it gay to drink decaf?

sigh

i always want more coffee but if i have another cup of real coffee i will feel faint

i have low blood pressure mr. que

oh

sorry!

I'd drink decaf if it didn't taste like crap... if it weren't for worries of caffeine addiction I'd probably drink 10 cups a day

you can lower the caffeine content by shortening the brewing time

also, by using a darker roast

xpost yeah how insensitive of you. maybe i will go buy a pound, i can't decide. i just want more more more!

i already use a pretty dark roast but i don't want to shorten the brewing time. see this is gonna turn into another 100 posts about how confused i am

what does doctor harbl say about more more more

hmm some methods naturally have shorter brewing times - like the aeropress above

I heard that they found a coffee bean with a naturally low caffeine content (less than 1%) - dunno where they're at in terms of bringing it to market or as to how it tastes

how do you like it how do you like it

how did coffee go this morning harbl

it was good. zeke's royal blue is great. but i am still smelling the dregs at the bottom of the cup next to me and that's why i want more but i am kinda wired!

nope drinking decaf is gay. sorry.

i got some. and i ground it myself. it's too fine but i am using drip this time so we'll see what happens

wait what about your blood pressure???????????

it's ok it's decaf you dummy

as u can see i'm gay and i don't care who knows

decaf still contains caffeine, jokes on you

yes i know that. i know how it works!

harbl: gay coffee drinker

um so i just ate a kosher dill. this is gonna ruin my coffee tasting ability for the time being

http://www.bpnews.net/images/IMG20058129264HI.jpg

lolllllllllllllll

armistead otm

life's too short to drink gay coffee, imho

hmm this coffee is ok

it's called "sumatra gayoland" LOL

http://planetsmilies.net/eat-drink-smiley-7819.gif

http://www.funnyphotos.net.au/images/coffe-foam-art-faces-bruce-lee.jpg

just had a soy latte. not bad. not bad.

i don't like coffee

just so u know

gtfo

Wilter is that a flat white? I kind of want to go to yr part of the plantet just to have some awesome flat whites.

http://www.emmitsburg.net/humor/pictures/2007/Fw%20Coffee%20art.jpg

http://www.vancouvercoffee.ca/wp/uploads/coffeesurf.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2599/3930467043_b61b781575.jpg

mookie wtf. good thing you like superchunk or we'd have words

LOL.

thinking baout a new coffee maker. mine still makes coffee ok but it started leaking weird concentrated dark coffee liquid out the bottom?

That's the4 coffee

I hate not having coffee.

And having no coffee brain.

@_#

i'm about to have some coffee :)

I bought some Illy pre-ground today, and it's not bad! dark roast but it's got some nice low-end acidic punch so it doesn't taste too muddy.

eager to get my new sock brewer, though

here u go http://product.images.starstruck.com/61-03/61-03318-F.jpg

drinking coffee right now!

should I get a really good espresso machine y/n?

I think I know how Mr. Que will respond :(

I need to get one extra counter space.

i boil water for coffee on the stove, btw

quincie, try something like the Aeropress first, and then ask yourself if you really need a fancy espresso machine!

just get one

double tall soy latte, you are a fucking treat.

hmm dont know baout soy + espresso

nagt

also lolz at alot of places where ppl ask for a 'skinny latte' or 'skinny' whatevs and the baristas jus use full cream milk.

~omg it's so creamy for skim milk!~

I NEED SOME OF THIS STAT. omg.

my boss had free samples of Starbucks VIA™ Ready Brew

ass water

It was that bad? I was sort of tempted.

why is it that some espresso is totally amazing while the vast majority is totally meh?

I mean I'm just surprised there isn't a higher minimal standard, or something.

guys srsly soy latte is not bad at all! it's cause they use the soy milk w/ sugar in it i think.

there are so many factors quincie!

i get super angry if my flat white is too hot

or if it's foamy as opposed to creamy >:(

yeah the #1 cause of bad milk & coffee drinks is improperly foamed milk

the guy at the coffee shop I go to has been trying to teach me how to get that microtexture, it's difficult...he OTOH could probably do it blindfolded, as he says it's based on the sound of the steam wand thingy

intersting. i note the noobz that work gloria jeans and shit hav a thermometer in the milk

i just remembered how awesome affogatos are!!

http://www.foodtv.ca/DMM/G/E/Gelato_Affogato_002.jpg

i wish i could have coffee at 9 pm!

i hate harbl for her hating bacon but liking coffee

thought i would put that out

xpost tell me about it, my cutoff is 2:00-ish or I won't sleep until 6:00am. I think I need to cut back majorly cuz I've come to rely on the caffeine for basic brain function. But I <3 it so!

preground coffee goes to shit so quickly :^(

i started keeping it in a airtight container but it still kinda sux. need to buy a grinder

Does keeping it in the freezer help? I thought that was pretty standard, freezing coffee -- either ground or whole bean.

Somewhere I read about about perfectly foamed milk being "the consistency of household paint" which is 100% OTM and is not the case 99.89% of the time.

DON'T put it in the freezer unless you're only going to take it out once and keep it out

the moisture from condensation + re-freezing will make it gross

we keep ours in the freezer--no complaints here

but store-grinding a pound and keeping it in air-tight container is fine if you use it up fast enough imo? maybe u guys are too slow
xpost you keep it in the freezer every day? i'm skeptical of u.

yeah Mr. Que's coffee (made with WF Pleasant Morning Buzz ground-at-the-store beans) is my favorite coffee.

whatever harbl

i got you liking coffee now--and this is the thanks i get

and yes it goes back into the freezer every time

we buy one (usually pre ground) container a week, use it up in a week. keep it in the freezer.

i liked coffee before. you can't take the credit anyway.

Freezing Coffee - Not as Good as an Iced Mocha
Some people store their coffee in the freezer thinking it is going to keep the coffee fresh. Here are a couple of reasons why storing coffee in your freezer is a bad idea:

* Coffee is porous. This is a good thing for fans of flavored coffee as the beans absorb the coffee flavoring syrups and oils that are used to make flavored coffee. However, if given the chance, coffee can also absorb other things like the flavor of seafood or the moisture that your freezer produces. This moisture will in turn deteriorate the coffee and even make it taste like, well... like a freezer.
* When coffee is roasted, the beans release their oils and essences to give the coffee its distinct flavor. You'll notice these oils are more prominent on dark-roasted coffee and espresso. When you break down these oils by freezing, you are removing the flavor.

Think about it...if coffee tasted better and fresher from the freezer, then you would buy it in the frozen food section, your local coffee shop might look more like an ice cream parlor, and our power bills would be through the roof trying to maintain a meat-locker the size of a warehouse.

i think i hate it now

― fantazy land (harbl), Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:12 PM (5 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you're welcome

let's rely on "Dawn" from Yahoo Answers instead of me, King of Coffee

no

that's not from yahoo answers you butt

i've brought you into the promised land, and this is the thanks i get

About

We’re Mark and Janice. He loves his flavoured coffee while I have a passion for baking cupcakes. Together we hope to share our passions and well if you like to get something from us, we’ll be delighted to serve you

they sound like swingers

When you freeze the coffee you use every day, the fluctuating temperatures create moisture in the packet, which can leave your morning cup tasting like cardboard. "The cell structure changes, which causes a loss of the oils that give coffee its aroma and flavor," says McMartin.

Freezing or Refrigerating Coffee Beans - It is generally not recommended to store coffee beans in the freezer or refrigerator. The enemies of coffee are extreme temperatures (hot or cold), air, light, moisture, and strong odors. The freezer is acceptable only for a one-time shot. What this means, is that once you take it out of the freezer, it should never go back in. Condensation can form and adversely affect taste, as the frozen moisture on your coffee will melt and be absorbed into the bean, which deplete the flavorful oils.

i mean, i've never had a problem with it tasting stale and if i did i would alter my methods. i can give you names and addresses of people who have tasted my delicious coffee and you can interrogate them.

science doesn't lie

don't freeze the bean

harbl is standing on very strong ground (haha, get it)

i keep my fresh oaxacan coffee beans out and grind them fresh every morning. having some coffee right now in fact. mm-mmm!

http://www.gerka.ru/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/dale-cooper-twin-peaks-coffee-3004-1.jpg

Freezing & Thawing: You don't thaw it out every time, you just scoop a little bit from the bag in the freezer and put it straight back in. It only freezes once.

Porosity: Good point, if you have a stinky freezer. Also a good reason to put the bag of coffee in a plastic bin, bag, however you normally store long-term frozen goods.

Oils: I don't know about this. Does freezing "break down" the "oils"? I'm asking, I don't know. But that clip doesn't offer any evidence that it does.

The last point, about storing ALL coffee in the freezer, is just...nonsensical. Coffee in a store or a warehouse has turnover -- if it didn't, and it sat on the shelf and got stale, you'd buy it somewhere else. But once you get it home, you're stuck with it. THAT'S the point at which freezing is useful.

maybe we should change the title of this thread, harbl, to "let's freak out over coffee"

Seriously who are these people who thaw it out and re-freeze it every day? Their household must be chaos, what with siphoning all the gas out of their cars every night and pouring it back in when they want to drive to work in the morning.

my coffee's so strong i fill up my car with it

good coffee oils are crucial to a good cuppa

I pity you paper drip dudes

look, these are trusted coffee experts saying these things. it doesn't take that long for a tiny amount of condensation to form, and the oils in coffee are water soluble iirc. freezing a pound of coffee you're going to keep moving in and out of the freezer (even for a few seconds) is dumb. you guys are dumb.

think about allthose ice crystals you get in your gallon tub of breyers ice cream

i guess i'm dumb

Yeah, well, we froze it because we had to drive an hour or more to buy anything besides what comes canned in the supermarket. It's a compromise. Also I still don't really believe them about the DASTARDLY CONDENSATION OH NOES.

come to my house and drink my coffee. we'll see who is dumb

THAT'S WHATS HAPPENING TO YOUR COFFEE

let's freak out over coffee

condensation + water soluble oils = bad. i believe it because it makes sense.

i'm not the one freaking out. i've only used my caps lock key for one word.

that is DON'T

fuck grinding at a store, grind at home u loosers

let's call each other names over coffee and betray those who have shown us the way, starting back in May, back when we thought we didn't like coffee.

ugh que

http://www.pets-doc.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/hug_it_out.jpg

http://putsimply.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/flying-cat-fight.jpg

it's true i don't know how to make it anymore, it always tastes like acid it's disgusting please help

― fantazy land (harbl), Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:15 PM (5 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it was because i started buying coffee at the grocery store to save a couple dollars. i don't know what you're trying to say though? it has nothing to do with putting coffee in the freezer. which i have already conclusively proven is dumb.

oils in coffee are water soluble iirc

You did not rc.

WHAT

Bring some science, quincie.

OH I'LL BRING IT ALRIGHT

ok it's not a real oil but it's a water soluble thing

no it isn't

are you suggesting coffee is composed of fake oil

The essence of the coffee bean is seen as the oils. These are oils in that they float, however, they are also water soluble, which really makes them not an oil.

wtf

from gourmet-coffee-lovers-haven.com

well it isn't my fault that they are stupid and call not-oil "oil".

Roasting
A good roaster must be part artist, and part scientist, to maintain quality and consistency. It is during the roasting process that the sugars and other carbohydrates within the bean become caramelized, creating a substance, which is known as the coffee oil. Technically, this fragile chemical is not actually oil, since it is water soluble, but it is what gives the coffee its flavor and aroma.

its ur fault for not googling tho

i can't find where i was reading about this a month ago here is a book from 1922

Coffee Oil and Fat
It is well to distinguish between the coffee oils as they are termed by the trade and true coffee oil In speaking of the qualities of coffee connoisseurs frequently use erroneous terms particularly when they designate certain of the flavoring and aromatic constituents of coffee as oils or essential oils Coffee does not contain any essential oils the aromatic constituent corresponding to essential oil in coffee being caffeol a complex which is water soluble a property not possessed by any true oil True the oil when isolated from roasted coffee does possess before purification con siderable of the aromatic and flavoring constituents of coffee They are however no part of the coffee fat but are held in it no doubt by an enfleurage action in much the same way that perfumes of roses etc are absorbed and retained by fats and oils in the commercial preparation of pomades and perfumes This affinity of the coffee oil for caffeol assists in the retention of aromatic substances by the whole roasted bean However upon extraction of ground roasted coffee with water the caffeol shows a preferential solubility in water and is dissolved out from the oil going into the brew The true oil of coffee has been investigated to a fair degree and has been found to be inodorous when purified Analysis of green and roasted coffees shows them to possess between 12 percent and 20 percent fat Warnier extracted ground unroasted coffee with petroleum ether washed the extract with water and distilled off the solvent obtaining a yellow brownish oil possessing a sharp taste From his examination of this oil he reported these constants djf_ 0.942 refraction at 25 81.5 solidifying point 6 to 5 melting point 8 to 9 saponification number 177.5 esterification number 166.7 acid number 6.2 acetyl number 0 iodin number 84.5 to 86.3 Meyer and Eckert carefully purified coffee oil and saponified it within alcohol In the saponifiable portion glycerol was the only alcohol present the acids being carnaubic 10 percent daturinic acid 1 to 1.5 percent palmitic

it's from google books so the text didn't really pick up. sorry for all the fake words.

oil meaning the oily substance you see on the surface of darker roasted coffee beans that's not chemically an oil but what are you supposed to call it

i keep 1 bag of coffee in freezer for emergencies (like when i forget to buy more coffee). other than that, i buy whole beans about once a week and grind daily. mmm.

i wish i could afford all this coffees. i had the costa rica calle de copey cup of excellence at their shop and it was heavenly.

$25/12oz bag is some shit, though!

i hate paying for coffee

yeah it should be provided by the government since everyone needs it

place at farmers' market sells jamaican blue mountain coffee for $40/lb

sheeeeesh!

oil meaning the oily substance you see on the surface of darker roasted coffee beans that's not chemically an oil but what are you supposed to call it

coffee spooge

http://www.msnicon.com/Msnupload/Msnpics/snooppppe9.gif

http://management.energy.gov/images/bean-cup_anim.gif

*drinks coffee*

http://rlv.zcache.com/9_11_was_an_outside_job_mug-p1681581551336018602om5b_400.jpg

place at farmers' market sells jamaican blue mountain coffee for $40/lb

Also, cosign on the Aeropress. I actually carry it with me when I travel. Now I just need a tiny grinder. Any leads?

Kenya aa is great stuff! I'm jealous

I have a small hand grinder made by Hario, generally pretty good thoug the grind is not 100% consistent, and it takesa long time when you want a fine grind

picture:

http://coffeegeek.com/images/42307/200x200/hario_mini_mill.jpg

Well it's pretty, that's the important thing

it's a good compromise; it's ceramic and plastic, so not too heavy for travel, and gets the job done

sunday is good bc i buy coffee someone else made on that day

since i stopped smoking i am really more aware of how good coffee is

or possibly i mean 'how addicted i am to coffee', w/eva

bought some 'Ethiopia Operation Red Cherry Organic Kombo Grade 1(100 G) ' yesterday, stuff is very good

woah that sounds kind of awesome

i hate when i drink coffee at 6 pm. now i will never sleep but i'm bored and i want to sleep.

why did you drink the coffee

i couldn't help myself!

I do this semi-regularly cuz I'm totally absent and just see half a pot of coffee sitting there, and like the sun is still out, and I just don't think...

It's tempting too cuz sometimes I just need the brain function and a nap would be worse than coffee by that point.

i have been drinking diluted green tea and i'm paranoid about not sleeping! i can't imagine coffee at a time like this.

well, i can imagine. it would be lovely. but no.

green tea doesn't have barely any caffeine in it, does it?

i can never figure it out

i think green tea is pretty caffeinated, but white has less?

http://www.stashtea.com/caffeine.htm

green is not too caffeinated, black teas are the most caffeinated

i brewed some jasmine green with a bag of tulsi sweet rose but then i poured some and left the bags in the bigger cup for a while by accident, so i've been using it as a concentrate and adding hot water to smaller amounts of the strong stuff. i guess it still works out to 1 tea bag of green, but steeped a long time. anyway, not coffee, but i am a bad sleeper :(

i am america's best sleeper except not tonight

¡¡¡party time!!!

just drink some whiskey you will sleep

went back to grinding my own this week. not as muddy as i remembered. pretty good!

kinda want more......................

coffee is going to save my life today.

yirgacheffe is the king of coffees

really? i want to like it but it's too light and acidic to me.

it's bright but I find it's a good balance between the acidity of an south american bean and the darkness of an indonesian bean

i think i just like the name of it. i am pretty much a dark roast only coffeeer

i went back to this this week and it's the best?
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-83541731568785_2048_286679

Description
This coffee combines the smoky, deep flavor of an Italian Roast with the rich earthiness of the Guatemalan bean. Together, they create a bold, full-bodied cup with a dark complexity that would surely have pleased Mr. Poe himself. The perfect coffee for chasing off the chills of a cool fall evening. (And for those times when it's a bit warmer--it makes for a great iced coffee!)

if it's good enough 4 poe it's good enough 4 me

coffee is a good metaphor for the darkness of poes soul imo

I made a video of the owner of the coffee shop I go to pulling an espresso

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjvPKCMkW1Y

http://unfunf.netfirms.com/cool.gif

this safeway coffee is the most disgusting.

don't i know it

duwee egbert's instant mmmm

http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/46633b10c5428e8452d2eea26a15b5f6?s=45&d=monsterid&r=R

drinkin some Kenya AA right now tbh

lukas I'm jealous

had some this morning! then a lil espresso pick me up later on.