Young Thug thread

Can Young Thug have his own thread? 1017 Thug is one of the mixtapes of the year, and the guy is killing every guest verse he lands (and he's landing way more than I can keep up with). Feels like it's only a matter of time until he gets his crossover moment, and when he does it's going to be really wild.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4l2e80vR0w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4oVUEGtM54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orIrGp5yL6k

(He only takes the leadoff verse on that last one, but it's a great verse.)

yeah this guy is just great

1017 thug is fantastic almost all the way through... "shooting star" is the real underrated track on there imo

"Shooting Star" is crazy catchy. I wish the Gucci verse were more substantial (though I think he sounds really good on that track regardless).

been meaning to check out 1017 thug bc i love the hell out of i came from nothing 2

I still think ICFN2 is his best release.

he should become a star.

ICFN2 is definitely his most approachable release, and the one I listen to the most, but 1017 is way more interesting, since it's so far out there so much of the time. It's one of those tapes that feels like it's more interested in testing ideas than presenting them

really can't deal with this dude on any level, can't take the boring autotune garble or the tinny production or the sickly melodies at all. only midway through this did i remember that you all hyped him up last year and i couldn't even get through that mixtape

what new ideas anyway? it's like bargain basement future (also how many rappers are doing garbled autotune shit atm?)

oh my god "tabernacle" is unlistenable, those whoa whoa whoas

this is almost all unlistenable

i'm still not sure Young Thug isn't an elaborate prank like when Odd Future announced the new signing 'Young Nigga'

I was going to say this is like the laziest and most generic rap name imaginable.

MC Rapper

'ICFN2' is the tape i return more often to - especially the euphoria that comes across stuff like 'i know', who's on top' or 'curtains' -, but '1017 thug' feels more coherent to me - 'nigeria' ftw.

'ICFN3' didn't really make that much of an impression, besides a few songs - 'foreign' especially. i prob should listen to it again, tho.

The Future comparison doesn't work for me, because Future's energy is so subdued; Young Thug is always wired-up and spazzed out. And some of Thug's stuff is deliberately obnoxious, but I have a high tolerance for that because I listened to way too much punk growing up. (It's interesting that Thug is one of the few rappers who really gives off a strong punk vibe, even though there's no real indication he's actually influenced by punk in any direct way.)

lotta swag rappers have nasal cali punk voices, whether by coincidence or whatever

been wanting someone to curate a mallpunk raps tape for ages

"Fuck My Tattoos" and "Angry Sex" would make good Young Thug contributions to that tape

I have a high tolerance for that because I listened to way too much punk growing up

i feel absolved. it's not me it's punk

It definitely helps to be inoculated against some of the nasally-ness

the noise he makes at 1.05 of 'two cups stuffed' is up there with the best rap noises

does this guy write good lyrics

we'll only know if the thread starts incorporating transcribed verses

brb transcribing 'haiti slang'

lol ok well I'm listening to "2 Cups Stuffed" and according to me the answer to "does he write good lyrics" is "possbily kinda" however his style is kinda undeniable, and "L-E-A-N-I-N-G/lean, lean, lean, lean, lean lean lean!" just killed me. also really like "gimme a cup twice/go light on the ice"

1 thug 2 cups

"Gimme a cup twice" cracks me up. That song really nails the frustration of having to wait for anything. I always think of it whenever I'm in line at the grocery store or a sandwich shop or whatever now

According to some thinly sourced (or non-sourced) tweets Young Thug is in jail, but nobody knows why or for how long. Feel like the Internet is letting me down by not providing details on this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYX7RmqsOXE

imo this dude wouldn't deserve his own thread yet but i guess the rolling thread has been dead as ... dead lately so i guess i approve

i do suspect this will end up being an ilx easter island style tribute to a forgotten rapper though

lol probably.

Ah, those DJ Spinz tapes have been pretty good.

Love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTT0nlnXlqI#t=117

I cannot see a shirtless PeeWee Longway without thinking of that scene where Danny DeVito crawls out of a couch naked in "It's Always Sunny"

Young Thug and Meek Mill work very, very well together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG5o88Iz49M

'Danny Glover' = song of the decade

I was wondering if radio would pick up on that one. It'd be an exciting hit, but I guess it's not gonna happen unless Drake jumps on the remix or something

can you get a song like that on American radio?

Not really. It's not unheard of for regional club hits to worm their way onto radio, but the structure of this one is pretty unorthodox. Still, with enough momentum, I dunno, I was holding out hope.

if drake remixes it

which didn't seem all that far fetched after the Vine of him geeking out to the track went viral. Track also has big co-signs from Kanye West and Jay-Z, so that's some pretty substantial support

i do suspect this will end up being an ilx easter island style tribute to a forgotten rapper though

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:27 AM (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol i was basically giving up on him right when he finally started to get radio traction

what a long strange run its been

i dont know where you guys are that regional hits dont get played on radio without drake verses

i mean, unless youre in new york, like me

i was being sarcastic

hadn't heard this before...wow

has he put anything out since 1017 thug?

restraint or oversight on aero not quoting the lines after "lean/lean/lean/etc" upthread? how could you resist "500 horses inside my machine/ 500 DNAs in my ding ding"

"Stoner," "Danny Glover" are the big singles

"Some More" http://www.trillhd.com/video/5059/young-thug-some-more
"No Fuck" today http://www.complex.com/music/2014/01/young-thug-bloody-jay-no-fuck

there was a rumour abt this guy floating around on twitter that is, um, interesting to google.

ok just post it

"stoner" & "danny glover" are good tracks & obv i'm glad young thug is becoming a thing but they're still outside of his, like, 10 best songs imo

is young thug bisexual? that would be cool

would be cool yeah but idk if there is anything to it.

Nothing to hang a rumor on, but he had a really chipper song on ICFN3 (I think, or maybe 2) that was something like (very loosely paraphrasing here) "oh my God she wanna fuck me... and he do to." There's no Pharcyde-y "eeeewwwww" in his voice when he delivers the line, or any whiff of "no homo." He sounds kind of excited about the proposition. So at the very least (and probably only the very least) he's not very hung up on how people perceive his sexuality.

time for some research...

*googles 'bisexual young thug'*

It would be really cool, but doesn't he have a line like 'no homo / two times: no homo' on 1017 Thug? I remember because I was annoyed.

He also has like three lines about being a martian. If Lil Wayne's said it, he's probably said it, too.

loooool tpp

oooh, I just got it. lol.

he def says no homo on that tape

Future signed him, right?

there's a bunch of talk about him maybe going to Freebandz but it seems unconfirmed atm

This Bloody Jay mixtape is rough. The Freebandz era begins inauspiciously.

of the half dozen or so tracks that leaked i didn't think any of them sounded spectacular but i gotta listen to the tape

the tape is really good imo (exept the sound quality)

yeah it's sounding good to me

but then i'm feeling more positively towards weaker thugger joints now that he's taking off

The mix to me is code for "don't take this too seriously because we clearly didn't." But if I wasn't sold on Bloody Jay before I'm definitely not now

I like what Ive heard so far.

"But if I wasn't sold on Bloody Jay before I'm definitely not now"

me too

"4 eva bloody" is amazing

his lyrics on this song are bonkers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ4Y2lS8XFU

i got a black gun with a red beam
a red car, it drip clean

the best thing about Black Portland is that it's only 11 tracks long

@YoungThugWorld 12h
Ok ok who ready for my tape?? If you ready the title and the date , tell everybody to RT this now...

Glad he has a real project in the pipeline. Maybe this one will even be mastered.

Also hoping the overzealous press didn't blow their Young Thug coverage on Black Portland. Seems like there was such a rush to jump on this dude's train that pubs didn't care they were slathering inordinate attention on an undistinguished, inconsequential tape. They just needed to make up for not covering "Donald Glover" the first time around.

ack, Danny Glover. Yuck, sorry.

lol

was gonna say, it feels like Donald Glover has gotten his fair share of coverage, ha

Anybody who knocked Drake for flow jacking on the "Versace" remix has ceded their right to breathlessly praise Nicki Minaj's "Danny Glover" remix

http://soundcloud.com/nickiminaj/danny-glover-feat-nicki-minaj

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfpIUBNCIAA70-e.png

:D

The world didn't need another "call me [name of celebrity or pop culture character]" song, but this one is good. Best Lex Luger track I've heard in a while

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kjoEThjVFY

yeah good track

Not sure how deliberate it was, but a funny, weirdly hyper guy who convinces uptight people he's gay so he can have lots of sex is an understandable character for Young Thug to relate to. (Plus Three's Company is just an underrated show in general.)

haha

i'm annoyed that the whole premise of the song is he has 3 girls when Jack Tripper had 2 girls, though

maybe Young Thug has only seen season 5

The season where both Terri and Cindy Snow filled in for Suzanne Somers' character? Amazing.

Jack usually had a woman in his apartment in addition to his roommates, so that would make three. But I dunno; I like that I can't make the logic square. Also I like that this track essentially makes PeeWee Longway Larry, the show's secret-best character

Young Thugga Mane La Flare drops April 1. First song is really good; solid verses from both Gucci and Thug

https://soundcloud.com/1017brickfactory/hot-boys-gucci-mane-ft-young

ammmmped

http://kendrickbrinson.com/young-thug-for-faders-cover-story-part-ii/

only got around to checking 1017 Thug recently but there's some dope songs on there, but then I dig autotune Weezy more than others so it makes sense I'd like this. was kinda loling how dude basically sounds like a drugged-up Drake on the "Yeah Yeah" hook though

new "Blanguage" track is cool, especially in comparison to the insufferable Drake song

well this kinda bummed me out http://www.buzzfeed.com/naomizeichner/young-thug-trapped-major-label-deal

Awesome reporting. My guess is that none of these contracts hold him back much, especially when there's so much money to be made for all parties involved. It's not a Mary J Blige exclusive contract with Sea World scenario.

the most fucked up part about that is that the "savior" in his life is birdman, who is notorious for fucking every single one of his artists -- including his "son" -- out of royalty money

chance the rapper's situation is an interesting comparison to this

otm re birdman, fd up world

Thugger's Wayne fixation is borderline creepy. I still love him though.

What IS Chance's situation? It seems even more confusing than Thug's.

One thing this does shed light on is these quasi-major label Kevin Gates albums, which are really good but don't seem to get promoted or heard beyond his existing fanbase, so I can't fault Thug for trying to get out of that.

Not entirely true, the latest Gates record doubled the 1st week sales of his last. They're going for a slow grind i think

Chance's situation isn't confusing at all afaik; he simply hasn't signed

So, how long before APG completely rebrands? lol

Chance's situation is confusing in the sense that I can't even tell if he's planning to sign or what shape his next project will take. Which is kinda cool, but still.

I hope Gates's strategy is building to a really good career but I fear it won't, don't think anything is a given right now.

Thug's Weezy fixation makes sense given he's essentially a more batshit version of him no? reductionist but still

wish I liked "Stoner," heard that on radio first time yesterday

chance is super interesting because i do feel like he's at the point where he could drop a single and do real numbers with no label

like, earl did 49k in his first week. ferg did 32k in his first week.

i feel like chance could roll out his "debut album" or whatever w/o no label and land somewhere in between those two numbers

obviously his ce

whoops

obviously his ceiling might be higher if he went the full label route but i truly could see him doing something bizarre since he's already made it this far. maybe he'll sign to skrillex's label or something super boutique that could give him some backing while allowing him to do basically what he does now on the business & creative side.

anyway on the point of thug i agree with evan that all of this shouldn't be a huge impediment to his career if he continues on this trajectory, but it certainly shows the importance of having your business strategy straight from the jump in a music industry climate like this one

it's just kinda sad because it's like Gucci's indifferent, self-destructive attitude towards business is almost literally contagiously spreading to other artists

I'm kind of worried that Chance doesn't have another 'Acid Rap' in him :\

yeah part of me wonders that, too. gonna remain optimistic, though, the song on Dedication 5 was crazy.

I'm kind of worried that Chance doesn't have another 'Acid Rap' in him :\

― 龜, Friday, March 28, 2014 6:10 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dude is so young and so smart and so confident in his voice. He might not make another Acid Rap, but I could easily see him surpassing it.

the most fucked up part about that is that the "savior" in his life is birdman, who is notorious for fucking every single one of his artists -- including his "son" -- out of royalty money

chance the rapper's situation is an interesting comparison to this

― le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, March 27, 2014 5:19 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shades of ethan's "like father like son" review here

The cruelest April Fool's Day joke is that neither Thugga Mane La Flare or Brick Factory Vol. 1 came out

didn't come out when announced to come out but it's not like 1017 doesn't generally put out what they say they're gonna put out sooner or later

True, I'm just starved for mixtapes right now. I burn through them so fast these days and wanted some new ones I could look forward to listening to at the gym. I am very, very spoiled.

I lost the will to keep up with Jandek Mane's output a long time ago, hopefully one of y'all true believers will let me know when there's a song I wouldn't wanna miss out on

ahahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIrrPqFewkI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIrrPqFewkI

He hasn't put out anything essential since his mini-renaissance in 2012, but even with the dip in quality and consistency I started to grow dependent on his near constant releases last year, so his imprisonment came as a blow to me. The good news is he's sounded a lot sharper on the handful of tracks he's teased this year; seems like he was in pretty good form right before he went back to jail.

If Gucci is doing real jail time, and he might be, the thing I'm going to miss more than his output is his ear for new talent. Even during his own creative ruts he's been incredible as developing protege rappers and producers, to the point where him being sidelined feels like a big blow to Atlanta's entire farm system

yeah feel like he was putting together a real cool scene w scooter and thugger

Scooter is absolutely slaying lately. "Disfunction" is one of my fav tracks of the year, and SL2 is super solid, too.

And Peewee Longway also seems to be clawing his way out of the second tier.

Pffffft! Hell Yes and Point In My Life are classics.

So is Activist.

scholar

Gucci's had a 1/15 good song ratio for about 3 years

so 80 good songs in 3 years, that's not bad

lol

otm

80 sounds about right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzodrEFgLms

SHEESH

FENG SHUI!

haha nice

you know Im in with just about any menacing low end horn stab

Just a free mixtape bt Thugga Mane La Flare ws OK at first but by like four tracks in just boringly halfassed

Haven't been able to get it this yet either; a lot of it is a disjointed mess. Thug doesn't sound sharp at all, and even when he does he's on such a different wavelength from Gucci it just doesn't work.

"Siblings" is a nice throwback to the ICFN era, so much so that it might be a leftover from that era

"Thug doesn't sound sharp at all" i'm saying. Moments here I like though, and the beats are good -- def. better than that Bloody Jay collab tape which I got nothing out of

it is cool to have a new rapper (well I didn't get into 1017 Thug 'til after the fact) I'm genuinely excited about though, cuz depending on possibly past-their-prime legends is bad for your health

The first 5 tracks are all straight fire, no clue what you guys are talking about

Loving Young Thugga Mane Laflare with a passion

what am i talking about? i meant 7 tracks

new mixtape sounds pretty good to me. I'm only just starting/trying to get into Young Thug though. but this stuff is a lot better than "Stoner" to me. "Don't Look at Me" is sick.

I've warmed to the opening stretch after hearing it on actual headphones. Comes out pretty strong, and as a whole it's leaps above Black Portland. But the final half still feels like Gucci verses copied and pasted onto Thug tracks, or vice versa

gucci verses are fire too though

she look like a bag of money, bag of kush or bag of them bricks

Closing song is great.

Gucci cracking his iPhone screen is my favorite so far

I think they have p good chemistry: Gucci all laid back and repetitive, Thug restless, all over the place. It makes more sense than most Gucci collabos.

I like "OMG BRO." the other "OMG" not so much

what's up with there being more tracks listed on the back cover image vs. the actual download too, those other three songs actually exist

lol @ mixtapes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vawOyXKRHk

dig that track

I dunno what my problem was last night, loving Young Thugga Mane La Flare rn

I even love the second OMG

The finished version of "OMG" with Iamsu is so awesome:

http://www.complex.com/music/2014/04/young-thug-iamsu-omg

TBH i think that song is better in the context of the tape than as a solo track.

Ha, I'm just the opposite. I'm too OCD for this kind of thing; the incomplete version on the tape is going to bug me now

i'm totally mystified by the middling reaction this tape has gotten .. way better than the bloody jay one imo

The second OMG is ridiculous, can't even understand how those sounds come from a person

agree this is better than bloody jay, but that ain't saying much

shout out to this tape's wildly varied volume level, makes for a solid listening experience

That's mostly a problem w the no DJ version though, lol

oh i guess that's the only thing i've heard, oops

This Thug track from the Ola Playa mixtape is incredible. Good stuff littered all over that tape, actually

http://www.livemixtapes.com/download/mp3/397782/ola-playa-dont-move-prod-by-trip-da-hit-major.html

Ha, the comments for that OMG Soundcloud are awesome! On the Ice jj fish tip.

http://cdnl.complex.com/assets/CHANNEL_IMAGES/MUSIC/2014/04/content/1398873327_thug.gif

finally got around to listening to Guwop La Picacho Stonebrr Two Times and i'm wondering why does dj holiday have any right to be yelling all over this if the songs aren't even mixed?

nobody tell my wife but our 4-year-old was in the back seat of my car going "i'm a stoner, i'm a stoner, i'm a stoner" today

lmao

i honestly tried to get him to do the Fabo part instead but he wasn't interested

this is awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZA-FYshvwI

yeah

this hook
http://www.audiomack.com/song/fashionably-early/young-thug-ft-iamsu-prod-by-c4-clean

has this not been posted yet? best beat I've heard in a while:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eY_6kwYETA

also this:

https://soundcloud.com/djcosthekid/young-thug-rich-homie-quan-lifestyle

ok another I don't think has been posted:

https://soundcloud.com/djmlk-1/ti-ft-young-thug-about-the-money-main

"YRN" is maybe my favorite song this year (the main competition being "Stoner" tbh)

Yah that's a top 5 joint for me

Ha, it's my alarm actually (previously "Versace")

ThePple Album is p fucking Ok

THE PURPLE ALBUM I mean. It's got a v funny mood going on, like that

Prefer the White Album with Peewee Longway, who has been sounding like a better version of Young Thugh for a lot of the year.

1017 Thug 2 is pretty OK, too—strong hooks and coherent verses all over that one—but it feels like Thugga is really beginning to suffer for lack of quality control and orderly management this year.

Well I heard he got actually signed to someone, that might help. Thanks for tip, I should hear this White Album

i thought he had nothing to do with 1017 thug being put out?

hope he can sort his situation out soon

1017 Thug 2 is pretty OK, too—strong hooks and coherent verses all over that one—but it feels like Thugga is really beginning to suffer for lack of quality control and orderly management this year.

― Evan R, Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:39 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark

weird to blame the guy for people putting out music outside of his control

tpp do you mean 1017 2?

yeah sorry. still want to know the thought process that led to photoshopping thug's head onto wiz' body

since the first '1017 thug' no tape has been released with thugga's consentment. Just wait for metro thuggin.

weird to blame the guy for people putting out music outside of his control

No blame assigned; I just said he's suffering for it. He could really use one marquee release this year to capitalize on his buzz, but instead he's got every person he's ever worked with watering down his brand with odds and ends mixtapes

tried 1017 thug 2 and still can't get into his music at all and haven't really been following his career but is dude actually gay? or on some lil b shit

pretty sure on some Lil B shit

as much as i appreciate Lil B's name being used as a shorthand for disingenuous 'gay rapper' controversy baiting, that conversation really seemed foisted on Young Thug from the outside

thugger gay rumors seem to have stemmed from people confusing gang terminology for gay which is kinda lol in its own way

also i guess the wearing of womens clothes and sharing of romantic champagne toasts w his homies

doesnt seem to be purposely cultivating it tho a la lil b fwiw

he might actually be gay tho idk

Young Thug with T.I. on the Tonight Show last night felt a little bit like his Busta does "Scenario" on Aresenio moment.

http://www.stereogum.com/1697402/watch-a-pigtailed-young-thug-join-t-i-the-roots-on-the-tonight-show/video/

mostly impressed by T.I. tbh

I'm continually impressed by how good the Tonight Show makes most rappers sound. That is not easy.

don't get the buzz about the performance, but thugga's outfit is ++++

prob just excited to see their guy out there in the mainstream

not a great performance but he def brings some unusual energy just by being there

word

Young Thug with T.I. on the Tonight Show last night felt a little bit like his Busta does "Scenario" on Aresenio moment.

this is insane

Hah wtf

it was a fine performance... but naw

it felt like the quarterly scheduled "up-and-coming rapper people are excited about makes network TV debut on Jimmy Fallon" moment

no it was just like if busta rhymes if he wandered around the stage non-commitedly and rapped over his vocal tracks because stereogum

you have brain damage

somethin' wrong with the whiney

its like when all grandpa could say is BOXCAR except whiney yells the names of blogs he doesnt like

lol

co-lol

Still, Whiney otm tho

blangauge and old english are jams

anyone keeping track of what are the good thgger features?

He seems to raise his game for the big tracks, but most of the mixtapes are 90% filler (as expected) slightly overrated, like 1027 thug, isn't as good as made out in here. YT however, is better than thread gives credit for. Most interesting rapper in years, probably.

"anyone keeping track of what are the good thgger features?"

Skyfall, w/ travis scott

alright i took matters into my own hands most of these i at least listened to part of on youtube and they seemed cool a few i did not and maybe they are cool some i have listened to a bunch and are def very cool let me know if theres anything cool that i missed https://www.sendspace.com/file/z7l6b8

Skyfall, w/ travis scott

― Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, September 1, 2014 11:30 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cool

my fave from this year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSZeL4VWZgk

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJiw6r4Z1eE

him and rh quan are besties now huh p cool combo

"anyone keeping track of what are the good thgger features?"

Skyfall, w/ travis scott

― Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, September 1, 2014 8:30 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah gets people way more hype than "Lifestyle" gotta say

lol

these 1017 Thug sequels are Brick Squad/Atlantic putting out old stuff he's recorded right? Not 100% on his label situation. Def. nowhere near the original tho

yeah theres a lot of dregs out there

metro thuggin shd be nice if that ever comes out

i like casino's "communication" which is obv really a young thug song

best young thug i've heard recently is "idk why"

Skyfall is boring but i like mike will's 'take a picture'—does that sorta spacious let-thugger-be-thugger much more effectively imo

i've liked a bunch of tracks on the gucci collab tapes although they're more album tracks than Singles. I think people have been hating on them because they're not "Stoner" / "Danny Glover" level but IMO that's more essential for showing his depth as an artist, that he's not just a singles jukebox. but you know how it is w/ people chasing whatever's hot, there's not depth or nuance to the understanding of an artist

"Hot Boyz (Intro)" is good

"Texter" was cool ... "Let Up"... "Strange Things"..."You The Best" ... "Ridin Around the City"...those are the ones i remember off the top

nice nice i knew someone out there was digging through those gucci tapes

at some point i'll go through and do a better separation. tbh they are pretty inconsistent. young thug is def super duper hit or miss. but when he hits its like better than anything

prob mostly an issue of quality control at brick squad corp

yeah "Hot Boyz" has such a massive beat

Hot Boyz is great, and I've warmed to La Thugga Mane overall. But at this point I'm probably done checking out any "new" 1017 output from YT. He's pretty clearly off that label, so anything from them with his name on it is clearly leftovers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eY_6kwYETA

^maybe my favorite song this year, kinda feels more like Young Thug f/ Migos tbh

Oh yeah "YRN" is like top 3

Hot Boyz is great, and I've warmed to La Thugga Mane overall. But at this point I'm probably done checking out any "new" 1017 output from YT. He's pretty clearly off that label, so anything from them with his name on it is clearly leftovers.

― Evan R, Monday, September 1, 2014 4:22 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they aren't 'leftovers,' gucci recorded them ages ago and sat on them until young thug's buzz was up

"YRN" is tight, forgot about that for a second. nice chill track

"Lifestyle" brings me much joy when it comes on radio

one of my fav under-discussed thug hooks from this year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVGMruqdDrQ

4 Eva Bloody, No Fucks, Florida Water are all good off that tape

remember not liking that tape at all, 1017 Thug and more relevant/recent Thugga Mane La Flare are both way better

still love "The Blanguage" and it'd be cool if they dropped Metro Thuggin soon, dunno what its current status is tho

black portland and the gucci tapes sound so bad mane

no excuse for that

yea i hated black portland

I don't think Gucci collab is A+ but it's got some jams

YRN, best song this year.

smokewaymoreweedthanaguyinLA

organ on "About the Money" is dope

man, hot boyz intro, yrn, are terrible lol. as is a lot of this guys raps. he needs some serious guidance and get away from that fool gucci.

sock

im really into the lifestyle video

lifestyle and yrn are both pretty big departures for thugger beatwise

lifestyle is so good

ya its very triumphant

i fucked and then wiped down my dick with the curtains inside of the phantom lol

i hate that line and don't think that song is very good

young thug explicitly remaking drake songs is... not the road he should travel

no way that line is delightful and hilarious

thats a kool g rap line

sort of

i think it probably dates back to old comedy records or some shit like that tbh

did they have phantoms in rap then

they had curtains

curtains date back a long way, almost to the beginning

NP Young Thug "Curtains"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0JjtrCiXfA

now that's a great song

Does the name "Young Thug" and "I Came From Nothing" both come from the first Jeezy album?

couple of years ago i was travelling around morocco with only ICFN2 on my phone to listen to. eating hash cakes on the beach in essaouira listening to 'haitian slang'. fucking weird, honestly

yeah i love blanguage. maybe in part just because it's one of the few CDQ tracks where you can really soak up his voice in high fidelity. the way the beat/flow switches going into the 'banana boat/cantaloupe' bit is just the greatest.

most of my favs mentioned but i've also been into

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlDsZzHyM5M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yu2hzB63Mc

is lifestyle getting radio play? it's so fucking great

i've heard it on the radio so the big dog timmy is playing it at least

lol

yeah it's a legit billboard hit in america

also 'hookah' is song of the year

"Lifestyle" peaking just as summer weather finally arrives just feels so right. Great driving song.

yeah "Treasure" is top 5 Thugger imo. A couple more of my favorites lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSFeh9NcTqY

West Coast Weirdo Thug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeVK0Td11bA

Better Than "The Blanguage" Metro Thug

OMG is nuts.

OMG is kinda like a weaker 'fight night' right?

"OMG" is the one song where i think he sounds too much like a spongebob character

i think we should talk about what makes his music bad when it's bad, bc while we are largely fans the polarized online argument of 'the only rapper worth hearing' vs. 'destroying the culture' is wholly ruining the enjoyment of young thug for me

on the contrary i feel like a lot of the "destroying the culture" arguments lobbed at young thug are as homophobic as any rapper since..... kanye? that makes me like young thug a lot more

i almost feel like the stylistic war regarding young thug-type rappers has been ceded by the conservatives and that it's actually more acceptable to argue against young thug (or lil b) on subtextually homophobic grounds

on the contrary i feel like a lot of the "destroying the culture" arguments lobbed at young thug are as homophobic as any rapper since..... kanye? that makes me like young thug a lot more

― le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, September 2, 2014 3:49 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there are plenty of people who just think he sucks as a rapper w/out needing a homophobic subtext

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1dUTAGLCEU

these people are idiots but young thug is also not the only good rapper alive

Thugga's perceived "gayness" is all about style though.

"Fight Night" is kind of gross and unfun to me :(

the "fight night" verses are incredible but there's def something tone deaf about the song i.e. the single cover is boxing gloves with lipstick marks on them smfh

http://mookcool.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/unnamed.jpg

almost seems like he trolling now, called homie quan his "hubbie"

hey lag∞n thanks for that zip file posted upthread -- a handy comp

yeah man, its so much better now tho maybe i will repost once there are no more cool suggestions

also i deleted some of the songs

tried to only keep ones that sounded like "young thug songs" instead of just "songs with young thug"

yahhh, thanks lagoon

least i cld do

yes thanks! load up round 2

Also 'fight night' sounds like 'blow the whistle' to me. Same bass anyway, similar tempo.

im gonna try to put them in an order? idk

i hate that line and don't think that song is very good

young thug explicitly remaking drake songs is... not the road he should travel

― le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:23 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'll agree on the line, it's gross, but that song is such an improvement on "The Language" which is so damn drab & I have no idea why people think it's a highlight

then again I only give a shit about "Hold On" off that album so yeah

People think it's a headlight because

Showtime, headlines
Big time
Sunshine, tote nines
Bust mines
Flat line, hard grind
High life
Stay fly as jet time
Stunt nigga
Every time you see a nigga
Stunt nigga
Every time you see a nigga
Stunt nigga
Swag on head to feet nigga
Stunt nigga

alright friends heres the definitive bunch of young thug songs in a folder thank you for the crowd sourcing https://www.sendspace.com/file/4q74nq

Call me crazy but I hear Levi Stubbs at times in Thugger. Especially on this track, for eg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joqjBAJx4ZA

thanks lagoon

ya man enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnulAutH0QY#t=250

"never been gay/even though i ball every day"

So Thug's off Brick Squad/Atlantic? I kinda figured but idg how this stuff works

BTW the Thugga polarization is very real IRL, talking to a co-worker's friend out last weekend talking 'bout how he was "suspect" lol & mocking his "Hookah" hook

hes on 300

One time some dudes at work were talking shit about Young Thug wearing dresses so I nonchalantly whipped out my phone and showed them pics of me wearing dresses.

Haha awesome how'd that fly?

they were just kind of sheepishly like ohhh....ok......... and kinda dropped the subject

ha nice

Love it

tbh wasn't a fan of dude's Fallon outfit but it's irrelevant to dude's music (well OK, guess it's part of his persona but I mean as far as me listening to it) & shit just seems like a repeat of '07 Wayne kissing Baby "OMG homothug rappers taking over" stuff

honestly though we may have already moved from the "LMAO what a joke dude's annoying" to "I recognize his talent, buuut..." phase of Thug's career though. Not sure. In a few years he'll put out his I Am Not a Human Being II and everyone who doesn't like him now'll be all maaan remember when he was dope? It's the inevitable rap cycle

'06, my bad got my Weezy chronology mixed up, was just thinking of the "We Takin' Over" freestyle

taxonomy of the hypecycle

on that same note pretty sure Jeezy's a Respected Elder of hip hop now, but I'm so old I remember when his simple flow/rhyming same words together/yeaaaahhhs were ruining hip hop. tbf though he has changed his rapping style some starting with The Recession or so, for better or worse.

I'm not sure who's stepped in to fill the ruininghiphop void these days, I'm not sure if it's Thug actually, and with Eminem fans Wayne seems to be the root of all evil for some reason (cuz they were on a few tracks together where Em rapped all impassioned/constipated-like, maybe) but yeah, dunno.

the coolest part abt jeezy was his madd snowman avatar

LOL who is Berner? Some rich guy who pays rappers to be on his songs? Anyway I like that hook, YG faxed his verse in and still came off interesting.

but I'm so old I remember when his simple flow/rhyming same words together/yeaaaahhhs

I think everybody remembers this tbf

the coolest part abt jeezy was his madd snowman avatar

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 4, 2014 10:57 AM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark

☃

lol

Bay Area Rapper Berner Hips Wiz Khalifa To Trippy Stick
Bay Area rapper “Berner” is known to most Californians as more than just a good underground Hip Hop artist. To them, he’s known as one of the finest marijuana / club dealers on the West Coast. His name carries weight on the streets of North California and of course, rapper Wiz Khalifa, is one of his compadres. Recently, the two hooked up to bring Wiz and the Taylor Gang family into Berner’s world, upgrading the Pittsburgh stoners to the latest smoking technology.

“Peep Game, this is why I like it the most. It charges with a USB right. So on your laptop – on your anything right. So you got disposable cartridges,” says Berner to Taylor Gang’s Chevy Woods as he begins to educate them on Trippy Sticks. “The Type of Places I been smoking this thang… Disneyland – House of Prime Rib last night. It smell’s like a new _____ sauce” he continued.

Unaware of the Trippy Stick in 2011, Wiz Khalifa and the Taylor Gang were educated to the new stoner technology by rapper Berner during a California trip. The Bay Area rapper and business mogul tells Wiz Khalifa, Chevy Woods, and the rest of the Taylors how to use it. Berner also shows them the accessories of Trippy Sticks along with some of his favorite features.

Around the 3 minute 30 seconds mark of the Trippy Stick video, Wiz Khalifa takes his first hit of the hash oil vaporizer. For 13 seconds Wiz sucks in the Hash smoke until choking a little then dancing around in stoner-joy. The Pittsburgh marijuana smoker holds in the vapors for another 10 seconds, releasing the lung-caged fumes at approximately 3 minutes and 53 seconds.

“That High” says Wiz Khalifa after 1 toke on the Trippy Stick. “This $h*t is real” he continued.

The end experience of Wiz Khalifa, thanks to Berner, is that a Trippy Stick is a necessary tool for new age stoners. As a gift Berner gave Wiz Khalifa his own personal stick and 5 hash oil clips.

vape money paid for these discarded yg & thugger ad libs

Think Migos COULD be the designated rap ruiners but its mitigated by the fact that Drake copped their flow & cmon everything he does is cool

people def h8 migos

i was gonna say that berner is def a drug dealer. when i was backstage at wiz's tour in jersey he showed up at one point late in the day carrying big black duffle bags and quickly disappeared into some tour bus.

literally carrying wizs weed

Chief keef obvs been ruining hip hop for 2 straight yrs

ruining hip hop > saving hip hop

migos too

BTW pretty sure i introduced the Goon thread to Berner years ago and we had this same discussion when he started popping up on incredible songs w/ jacka sporting a Flow That Sounded Like It Was In Title Case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT0fHFNTLwE

they dropped whole albums together

pre-taylor gang

its funny cause weed is legal in california

Weeknd at Berner's

lol I knew it. I remember Riff Raff used to get a lot of money that way. Half of his videos on youtube just with random rich kids who want to rap. times change lol.

wait Riff Raff isn't a random rich kid who wanted to rap?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tuAzsKGELpo/TrLSMikT6nI/AAAAAAAADZ8/H3DTLuBOyRE/s1600/JFK5.jpg

wait Riff Raff isn't a random rich kid who wanted to rap?

― some dude, Thursday, September 4, 2014 1:00 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no

I don't like Migos or Chief Keef actually (not-that-they're-similar disclaimer) just the whole killer of hip hop becoming viewed with rose-tinted glasses once a "worse" artist comes along is funny to me

http://www.audiomack.com/song/cantstophiphop/pull-up-ft-rich-homie-quan-1

There's a few songs that've made urban radio way more interesting to me lately & "Lifestyle's" definitely the top dog of that group

I'm not "glad" "Stoner" never really popped off in that way cuz any shine Thug gets is good imo but not gonna lie I mess with this way more, that one was just kinda goofy in not the best way

the stoner beat takes u on a journey imho

I'm not 100% on this but I dig old-school West Coast stuff a lot & in addition to Thugger just killin it (killin it!) "Lifestyle's" beat kinda gives me that feel

"Stoner" completely blew my mind when I first heard it. I thought it was like 5 different rappers.

He probably kinda goes in on it but honestly the beat's a little dinky (not GIRLY mind it's so un-girly) for my tastes

Actually both the "Stoner"/"Danny Glover" "OMG Thug's bout to blow" singles didn't do it for me while "Lifestyle" is obviously the greatest Rich Gang cut thus far. And I say that as someone who liked a handful of songs on the OG Rich Gang album lol

"Stoner" is a 100% classic gtfo

I like "Yeah Yeah" + how he sounds like a drugged-up Drake on the hook

Lifestyle is arguably rap song of the year so far. And yes, Stoner is def 100% classic gtfoh.

"Stoner (GTFO If You Don't Like It Remix)"

and nah not arguably it 100% is

"Lifestyle" doesn't really do anything for me tbh

Thanking whoever put together Straye Thugs - great comp!

^otm, excellent work lagoon

Everybody's already forgotten about 2 cups stuffed :(

was wondering what lagoon thought of Curtains, Picacho, and 2 Cups

I assume the scope of the comp was limited to more recent stuff

love all of 1017 thug classic album imho

theres a no drops vers out there which is def worthwhile fwiw, never got into any of the i came from nothings really def some cool moments on there but his style feels pretty nascent and the wayne jocking kinda jumps out at u

1017 Thug is def. not classic but it is good & yeah the birth of current-day Thugga far as I can tell

100% CLASSIC EVERY SONG IS GOOD AND THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF SONGS AND THEY COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER

only complaint is it wouldve been cooler to have some pro space age mastering its almost completely mid range free and thuggers voice can get kinda buzzy and irritating when its expressed just through that tinny high end

well at least you didn't tell me to gtfo although the caps did make me feel a certain type of way

1017 def has skippable moments ... 2nd "I came from nothing" is great btw

lol u may stay xp

feel like albums masquerading as mix tapes are the best possible form cause theyre hardcore and dont have to have drake on them only it'd be cool if the sound qual was better and its def very good when a no drops vers is available for sale

one cool thing abt 1017 is how he has some reggae styles on there and it sounds natural and good not like hes trying to affect a patois or w/e

1017 and La ThuggA're both great and stand up to/reward a LOT of listening ime

Seeing Young Thug tonight, and wishing very badly I had more friends who were willing to go to a rap club to see a midnight performance on a Monday night

cool, report back. hes playing a club near me on fri & ive been considering going

http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/30095/young-thug-rich-homie-quan-birdman-rich-gang-the-tour-part-1.html

this is relevant to my interests

sounds p good so far

they are good foils for each other

yeah i like them together

This might be the best Thug project of the year. Definitely raises his 2014 slugging percentage

Birdman sounds gooooooood

rich homie quan been kinda underrated

def makes me feel some type of way

It's nearly 90 minutes and it's consistently good. Thug's verses are really sharp and focused, especially compared to some of the leftovers that have surfaced this year. Quan hasn't wowed me on the first couple of listens, but he brings a lot of heart. It's just a really balanced tape.

Quan steals "freestyle"

So we were at the club until 1:35 a.m. when the lights came up and the DJ announced Young Thug wasn't showing. Said Thug decided to go St. Louis and it was his fault and the promoter's fault but not the club's fault, so we didn't get a refund on our $40 cover. I had a ton of fun so I can't complain too much, but that's a lot of time and money to spend on a Monday night not to see Young Thug.

when you mentioned that show earlier today, i went looking to try to figure out where he was at. saw the ad on his twitter. i don't know anything about that club or Milwaukee on a Monday night but that thing looked like a no-show waiting to happen.

this tape YT is slightly more consistent and engaging that his usual tape standard. Sounds like he's waking up from a long coma on Bullets hook though. Quan's drowsy keyless crooning gets bit tiresome. All the beats on here sound the same.

Non throwaways:

See You
Flava
730
Tell Em (Lies)
Pull Up

that sucks abt the show. yeah same type of sitch when hes supposed to be in Connecticut..may go see lil durk instead which is at least at a legitimate venue

this tape sounds great btw

I'd seen Gucci Mane and Young Scooter shows there without a problem, and there were plugs for the show on Young Thug's various social media feeds, so even at 1 a.m. it didn't dawn on me he wasn't gonna show. What's crazy is how little the audience cared. Nobody booed or was all that pissed (even with the DJ bad mouthing Thug). Everybody contently filed out without making a stink about it.

Travis Scott Stan didn't even mention the best record

lol raccoon tanuki of all people has nailed my issues with young thug and rich homie quan

lex is there an Atlanta rapper to emerge in the past few years you are particularly enthused about?

I forgot if lex likes or hates Waka

likes him iirc but I'll use waka as the cutoff point. post-waka

the high waka mark

I'm gonna waka way from this thread.

i love waka

do rae sremmurd count? v into them

i like future well enough without being enraptured by him like everyone else

is it normal to put out a tape to promote a tour cause its a good idea and a win-win

this tape is full of jams

tape rules obv

one of the supposed tourdates is at the arena in baltimore, which seems unlikely but then boosie played there over the summer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmafIzCxJRk

xp you should pitch a review of that somewhere some dude

yeah will prob try to see/write about the show. it's pretty late in the tour though, by that point it should prolly be apparent whether it's a must-see show or not.

nice/weird to hear "who's on top" near the end of this thing

new board descrip

This really is the 2014 tentpole release he needed. It slots right along with ICFN2 and 1017 Thug as one of those important career marker tapes

Christgau going ham on Young Thug-related material: Migos, Rich Gang, etc

https://medium.com/cuepoint/robert-christgau-expert-witness-4c968a6da17b

o gosh

he has bad taste in young thug

+doesnt get future

I like Black Portland but not as much as The lag∞n Mixtape

thank you w/o my fans i wld be nothing

lmao did he call Kanye's "I Won" verse 'genius'

omg...

ur right

Black portland somehow becoming the signature thug album is so weird

is that true in an other than chrisbro sense

yeah even when it was his most widely reviewed project at the time there was a whole tone of "we're talking about this because it's the first thing he dropped since Stoner/Danny Glover, it's not a major or representative release." i can't tell if Christgau never caught that vibe or is just rebelling against it.

he's mentioned it several times all year, so for him it was likely "first release I loved is the first one I love"

album of the year, he said in an interview or someplace

people who continue to hold up "Picachu" as a key Young Thug song for years to come are gonna be like people who are way too into Lil Wayne's "I Feel Like Dying"

that's a good comparison

it's an astounding song but he has a half dozen as good/better

yeah both great songs that are kinda left field/not core

tho tbh im not that into picachu

is that true in an other than chrisbro sense

― lag∞n, Friday, October 10, 2014 11:12 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in the real world, no; for critics, yes

i always thought picachu was annoying and i think people are into it for its "weirdness" like he's just shouting random words or whatever
which, tbf, he is, but the weirdness unto itself appreciation of young thug is kind of annoying imo

it's one of his best & most coherent hooks, lyrically

i just mean 'my diamonds they say picachu' isn't the most clever hook, people just like the random reference

a song called “Molly Workin’” has to hook harder than this one to make me forget that molly generates more fellatio providers than normally occur in nature.

this fuckin guy

i just mean 'my diamonds they say picachu' isn't the most clever hook, people just like the random reference

― deej loaf (D-40), Friday, October 10, 2014 3:48 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

well that part is sort of a non sequitur but everything that comes after that is just a pretty digestible modern rap hook constructed & delivered in a way that is very singular

yeah but if he hadn't used the word picachu no one would single it out

"my diamonds they say picachu" isn't random at all to his audience; pikachu sparkles and glimmers like a yellow diamond

yeah like canary yellow

i think it's the "they say" part that makes it a non sequitur

people who continue to hold up "Picachu" as a key Young Thug song for years to come are gonna be like people who are way too into Lil Wayne's "I Feel Like Dying"

― Raccoon Newsy Wewsies (some dude), Friday, October 10, 2014 12:42 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is so otm

What is the with the terrible mastering on "I Got"? The rest of the Rich Gang tape sounds so clean.

not to be all gamenerdrapgenius here but all pikachu says is "pikachu"; it's pretty much his only character trait, so "they say pikachu" isn't too odd as a description of an ostentatiously yellow diamond. pikachu's wink is a signature move:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41CEAyHAG3L._SX300_.jpg

ah i never got that/i know nothing about pokemon

i didnt either. regardless i think the song is a stan favorite bc of the relatable cultural reference not bc its the best song on the tape

more credit for cleverness, tho

Pika pika

omg, i had almost forgot about picachu. such a great song!

people like it bc it's a really fun young thug song not cause it's a really weird young thug song

it's a fun track! the music feels very video game-y.

yes, that is key!

givenchy is unbelievable

i'm halfway through the rich gang tape and it's such a drag. every song sounds exactly the same and there is such intolerable singing everywhere

if i had any time for men singing badly about their feelings i'd be a fucking indie fan

I like Young Thug but I can't really be doing with Rich Homie Quan at all. I'd be able to overlook an irritating persona if the beats were more fun and less generic but yeah the cumulative effect of four or five of these in a row is such a drag. I'm still mystified why so many rappers gravitate towards this one really fucking dull kind of beat.

(I get that it works for people, it's just clearly not for me, but it explains why hearing Mustard beats all over the place feels like such a breath of fresh air at this point)

all the beats are identical and tinny and so slow

it's such an energy-suck

i am determined to get to the end of this tape and i can't believe it's STILL GOING

flava / war ready / i know it / beat it up are my favs

idk i get the crit that the whole tape sounds the same but thats more positive than neg imo

lex pretend
Posted: October 11, 2014 at 7:17:28 AM
if i had any time for men singing badly about their feelings i'd be a fucking indie fan

heard u saying this a lot recently and it is an interesting critique just not of thugger, quan fine

singing about their feelings is like two tracks on this tape

yea that makes no sense 2 me as a critique

it's lextown, all roads lead to "fucking indie"

all the beats are identical and tinny and so slow

― lex pretend, Saturday, October 11, 2014 7:39 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the beats on this tape are amazing. i wish i could personally hand London On Da Track a shoebox full of money myself.

http://i.instagram.com/p/uBvdhOxzxX/

https://vine.co/v/OqaghOtDMme

This tape is like, Do you like "Lifestyle"? Well here it is 20 times in a row

Corban Goble thinks they have "electric chemistry" and is "probably the best free mixtape offered for download in 2014"

http://www.clker.com/cliparts/U/B/a/F/6/y/cyrillic-letter-k.svg

agree 5000%

what's a better free mixtape offered for download in 2014

This tape is like, Do you like "Lifestyle"? Well here it is 20 times in a row

*downloads*

Lil Herb, Your Old Droog, Migos, Mac Miller, Travis Porter, the 2 Chainz EP...

He play imma leave him on fire... BOIL
I'm a stuntin lil baby, yeah... SPOILED

I'mma stunt the lil baby?

{???}

Still got yams
Ya'll got grams
I fuck ma'ams
I fuck grams
Whoa, why so harsh?
Why so dark?
I got lotsa white, Bubba Sparxxx

whiney making me like this tape more

that's great rapping

you're greatly an idiot

this shit is grocery bag raps in a weird voice that gives Noisey writers teh #feels. If this was Gudda Gudda saying the same shit, y'all would be hardmanning like crazy

You really think your old droog is better than this lol

it has... rapping?

no one likes rapping anymore jeez

cmon

If this was Gudda Gudda saying the same shit, y'all would be hardmanning like crazy

― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:49 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is like saying if you lived in a tent instead of a house you'd feel poor

this shit is grocery bag raps in a weird voice that gives Noisey writers teh #feels

your old droog gives new yorker writers teh feels

why the fuck did that dipshit have to call himself "your old droog"?, he's the diarrhea planet of hip hop :/

If this was Gudda Gudda saying the same shit, y'all would be hardmanning like crazy

― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:49 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is like saying if you lived in a tent instead of a house you'd feel poor

― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:16 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if you lived here you'd be home by now

Yes, it has rapping, often v clever and memorable rapping

lace me with a clever line

whiney striving to see rap through the tiniest of reductive pinholes is one of the most depressing developments of 2014

i mean, do you want me to come right out and say "I don't get this" because I don't get this

all i know is internet ppl saying shit like I HEAR YOUNG THUG AND THEN IM OFF TO A CLOUD IN THE SKY and then reasonable dudes like Jordan and Drakey saying "no, it's good" and then never explaining whats good about it except that liking it for its weirdness is reductive and there's literally no quotable lines

plus i see lots of vines about that part in "lifestyle" that's especially incoherant

and i know, like O)H HA GET OFF THE INTERNET but i've heard thugger on the radio too, idk

thats how u can tell its good need to use vine metrics

thugger is a genius tho who has pretty much a new style for very day of his life but im not gonna quote lines cause i h8 that

it's not that surprising that it's divisive is it?

i don't think garbly sing-song voices count as "weird" any more but they don't exactly have universal appeal

actually, they do since he's finding both critical and pop success, we are actually outliers

all i know is internet ppl saying shit like I HEAR YOUNG THUG AND THEN IM OFF TO A CLOUD IN THE SKY and then reasonable dudes like Jordan and Drakey saying "no, it's good" and then never explaining whats good about it except that liking it for its weirdness is reductive and there's literally no quotable lines

― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:25 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

it's very pop-oriented rap but the lyrics are important in an untraditional way (though in a more traditional way than you are implying)

if you want to listen to your old droog go listen to your old droog. there are still lines that pop out here though -- "she say she can do the same thing as five bitches / so i went and fired them five bitches" for instance. just little funny things that stick out. this isn't rock em sock em robot punchline music but... that's not the only way to listen to rap?

but do you not feel what "givenchy" is supposed to evoke even if it doesn't ground itself in Rap?

thug turned the weirdness up quite a bit over like wayne or future, the first time i heard him shouting abt how he needed a cup twice (v funny clever line btw) i was like is this a real thing irl perople are into but now it seems pretty normal

even though young thug does rap rap on that song xp

thugga has gotten less weird over time, on his earlier mixtapes he was rapping in diff languages

but if you can't appreciate the greatness of "lifestyle".... \(o_O)/

or the overall very obvious and traditional dopeness of "flava"

i mean, do you want me to come right out and say "I don't get this" because I don't get this

― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:25 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't wanna fight but, this. I've listened to a number of YT mixtapes on recommendation from people whose taste I trust, but...I'm not feeling it. I want to understand the thrill, really, I do. But the beats sound muddy, the raps seem muddy (with the occasional hot line or chorus breaking through). Not just Thug, a lot of bubbling up new rap seems to fall in this vein and it's just baffling to me what people hear in it, or maybe I'm turning into my dad.

(Side Note: "Picachu" is just alright, odd and whatever but after hearing it twice I shrugged and didn't need to hear it again.)

recentish song where he does some p str8 up rapity rap, cool song tho not really my fav thug mode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUWhcO3KD4

The "is he or isn't he gay" angle of YT is fascinating, though, regardless of whether he's peeking from the closet or just punking everyone

"lifestyle" sort of epitomises what i hate, just sonically, about young thug. obviously i don't care about trad rap or proper lyricism or whatever it's like this insistence on a really basic annoying melody by people who don't sound good singing...idgi.

"try me" is probably the first & only young thug verse that's properly blown me away, i feel even whiney would get it

I like when he says he looked her over like terms and conditions

But the beats sound muddy, the raps seem muddy (with the occasional hot line or chorus breaking through).

― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:50 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he sounds sloppy as first sometimes but im convinced of his craftiness, its really cool to hear all the shit hes up to

I feel like ppl have implanted false memories in themselves of their experience w 90s NY rap, like I didn't catch most of what ghost or Rae were saying the first hundred times it's just like over years of repetition it becomes a part of your dna and you're reticent to give a new record that kind of time. But the more I listen the more certain lyrics jump out and evoke a feeling or make me laugh

I did think noz's tweet about hearing young thug and the world dissolves (which I assume Whiney is referring to about the cloud in the sky) was a lil ott but it doesn't distract for me because as Jordan said he's actually seemed less weird as he's gotten a handle on his art, as his work has become more musical

There is def a magic eye effect with his rapping but I feel the same way about keef so ymmv

maybe noz just dissolves into a cloud super easy, its a spectrum

hey guys can i open up a bit here and admit i was never 100% on what "cloud rap" was?

http://tumblinerb.com/post/74588959446/1017-thug-topped-your-pazz-and-jop-have-you-written

not sure if this accurately describes his role on the rich gang tape in particular. i think that's more a quan and london vehicle to be honest and as mentioned up thread it's also more musical than aggressive but you can still hear that sort of kinetic energy at points like all over "givenchy" on the whole CREW CUT explosion on his "flava" verse.

anyway sometimes i get excited about music and try to briefly describe that feeling in 140 characters whiney if you ever need further clarification on one of these tweets feel free to contact me directly instead of sending off passive aggressive ilx smoke signals oh also can you explain to me why primus makes you happy because primus doesn't make me especially happy and that makes me mad

and "she gon look over these bitches like terms and conditions" is a quotable line

how do u set up ilx notifications in yr cloud

what's the line about octopuses...that one was funny too

I like when he says he looked her over like terms and conditions

― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:57 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I will concede to that

Also, I didn't even remember that tweet was a @noz joint, hahahaha

Also, I will always gladly explain why I fuck w/ Primus if that's a real request

no, please

That tumblin erb post is def the most cogent argument I've read, and I can definitely hear that erratic push-pull energy in his cadence — which is, of course, the most electrifying thing about thugger. But iunno, he def sort of plays the subtle card since his beats are always so stoner-stoner-pass-me-the-hookah chillax. It's kind of the same reason Sonic Youth never clicked with me since they're supposedly this wild, noisy act; but it's all controlled in this chill mumble-rock music. Some people would call that maturity, I guess, but it just kind of strikes me as energy-suckin

I do like "Danny Glover" and "Picacho"

cant believe u let a guy drop out of a cloud and own the hell out of u like that

Think Rev pointed out earlier itt that Thugger is actually technically very good

Like it's not just all weird voices

Every time he goes doubletime it feels exciting and affirming

SHEESH

It's effortless and sounds good to my ears

otm