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manchester band that fuse emo and post-punk tendencies and dip them in aqueous solution. they apparently had like five hundred names before settling on this one (which, why)

they've been releasing eps every few months since last years, with three incredible singles between all of them. another ep and album are out later this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6Y2FVD5JVw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfBKqaVk2Co

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeDGfk0UJw8

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link

this band is great

"the city" and "sex" are so good

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 15 May 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link

haha i was like "only j0rd is gonna acknowledge this thread"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link

The City is a complete jam, had only heard that Sex one from the emo thread. I'm kinda catching some prime-time 3rd Eye Blind vibes on The City. Like if they would have continued to move their sound forward this is what it would/should sound like.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link

Well damn, this is something totally different sounding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFpqLgUYBjI

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link

yeah the songs on the eps that aren't singles are these slow amniotic things. there's a new one coupled with this interview and it sounds rlll good http://www.interviewmagazine.com/music/exclusive-song-premiere-and-interview-fallingforyou-the-1975

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link

yeah i like this side of them too

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link

oh this is really good, damn

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 15 May 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link

this is what i want james blake to sound like

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 15 May 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link

ha otm

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link

so the us version of the iv ep is just kind of a greatest hits, all the singles from their other eps. uk version has all the new songs which are pretty fantastic, you can hear it at soundcloud https://soundcloud.com/the1975/sets/the-1975-iv

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link

this is what i want james blake to sound like

otm // otm

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link

some of their lyrics are very disarming

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link

also "you" is just the best song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6q-nvrIHXU

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link

Pretty addicted to this bad at the mo. Much thanks.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 27 May 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link

band

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 27 May 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link

Matthew Healy is the son of Denise Welch and Tim Healy.

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 08:52 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Adore this band.

Tim F, Saturday, 15 June 2013 12:01 (ten years ago) link

:D

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 June 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link

my man

J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 June 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link

I feel like the refrains in their big songs capture something very OTM about being adolescent and willing drama to happen.

Tim F, Saturday, 15 June 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link

[this is what i want james blake to sound like]

They sound like james blake expiring?

I am basicallly 100% sure this thread and its contents are a spoof, no way tim f likes an indie band as basic as this

lex pretend, Sunday, 16 June 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link

I'd expect you to hate them lex but "basic" is just plain incorrect (esp. coming from an xx fan).

Tim F, Sunday, 16 June 2013 02:02 (ten years ago) link

I've definitely noticed a taste-convergence with Brad this year.

Tim F, Sunday, 16 June 2013 02:24 (ten years ago) link

Still maintain that they're basically a next gen Matchbox Twenty, except from the UK.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 16 June 2013 03:03 (ten years ago) link

this is an indie band? :\

乒乓, Sunday, 16 June 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link

agree that this is awes

乒乓, Sunday, 16 June 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link

Still maintain that they're basically a next gen Matchbox Twenty, except from the UK.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:03 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(a) this works for - what - two of their songs at most; but (b) for those two songs works in the best possible way.

Tim F, Sunday, 16 June 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link

Hey this is really, really good. It's so crisp and spacious sounding. The singles remind me of My Vitriol's 'Finelines', albeit less noisy.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 16 June 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link

More than anything I hear the shoegaze (line of descent via Kitchens of Distinction, though, who were always outliers in their own realm). But yes, good stuff so far here; I admit the name put me off.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 June 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link

Maybe due to age/different reference points but I'm tending to hear things like KoD (and before them, Echo, a hair) as well as chirpy early/mid nineties indie pop on Spinart that wasn't Elephant 6. Stuff like Poole and the like. Not JUSt that, obv., but it's a nice riff on the whole 'big music' trope that has something more sprightly to it than a lot of other bands working out there.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 June 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link

I'm kinda catching some prime-time 3rd Eye Blind vibes on The City

back to celebrate how otm this is, down to the delivery, especially in this track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAcojLygGHg

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

i have had a lot of promo emails re this crew - something that always makes me suspicious.
clearly there is a degree of some major funding here.
so far i am still on the fence re the music : generic indie + current world studio tricks.
which is not a bad thing per se (memories of custom blue/south ... ) , just that i aint clicking with what i have heard so far.
in a few weeks they are playing a festival that me and the gang are off to, so that may provide more insight as to whether they are worthy of my attention or not ..

mark e, Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link

I'm going to continue ignoring any comparisons to 3EB so I may enjoy this band.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link

never heard any 3eb ...
clearly i have lived a charmed life.

mark e, Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

nah, only semi

乒乓, Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

Haha

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link

man ned i kind of want to convince you that you'd like the first 3eb record

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 June 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link

I suffered through it and them being big at the time! Some things aren't worth the revisiting!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 June 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

I still remember some comments around then going "Well think of them as a pop Pavement" and I'm all "...you really don't know me that well, do you."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 June 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

"Pop Pavement"... I don't even know what that means

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 16 June 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link

ahahaha neither do i, but i feel you ned

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 June 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link

It was a strange time.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 June 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

This music is so allusive of different reference points that are hard to reconcile together. Third Eye Blind, yes - the chorus on "Chocolate" being the other obvious orbital crossover point. Edward O says Robbie Williams for some tracks! Some of the more ambient stuff makes me think of A Mountain of One if they'd gone more pop and less pachouli. Ned says 80s "big music" generally but then also Kitchens of Distinction which I def. hear, and then makes me think of The House of Love a bit. But I also hear Placebo in their emoness and open searching for different ways to be big. And then of course (crossover) emo generally.

Tim F, Sunday, 16 June 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link

Also I don't think this is even out yet but it takes the nascent 80s pop influence to new levels, feels like something from a big Hollywood soundtrack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b77_BS9Pww0

Tim F, Sunday, 16 June 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link

when i first heard "sex" i was like "okay post-punk bassline, crossover emo everything else"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 June 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

yeah totally

Tim F, Sunday, 16 June 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link

It also occurs to me that this band could have played every night at The Bronze and handily catered to any and every mood required by the narrative.

Tim F, Monday, 17 June 2013 09:25 (ten years ago) link

I'm kinda catching some prime-time 3rd Eye Blind vibes on The City

back to celebrate how otm this is, down to the delivery, especially in this track

Oh for sure, hearing 3EB all over these guys work now (sorry Ned, it cant be denied). Was trying to figure out remember the sample source for that song you posted and figured it out...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Gvptdghwo
which samples the last 40 seconds of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-3N7TBrfOA

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 17 June 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

hearing 3EB all over these guys work now (sorry Ned, it cant be denied)

The advantage of their heyday being a dim, murky horror of shitbaggery means I can listen to the 1975 without such trammeling, for which I am eternally grateful.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 June 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

holy shit that's a dilla/laura nyro interpolation?

officially i think this band is smart as hell

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 17 June 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link

lol Ned

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 17 June 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link

The "Under our pet-ee-coats" line in "chocolate" is so well enunciated

More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Saturday, 22 June 2013 11:00 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/OEngTOA.jpg

1. The 1975
2. The City
3. MONEY
4. Chocolate
5. Sex
6. Talk!
7. An Encounter
8. Heart Out
9. Settle Down
10. Robbers
11. Girls
12. 12
13. She Way Out
14. Menswear
15. Pressure
16. Is There Somebody Who Can Watch You?

out sept. 9th. 16 tracks feels like a bit much. feel really bad for "milk" and "you"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 June 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link

I feel bad for everything on the EPs that was not a single.

I hope they don't deprioritise their lush romambience side on the album in a bid for UK indie royalty status.

Tim F, Monday, 24 June 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link

let's do this

J0rdan S., Monday, 24 June 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link

I hope they don't deprioritise their lush romambience side on the album in a bid for UK indie royalty status.

same. when i fell in love with "sex" i had a "what the hell is this shit" reaction to the rest of the ep and man i was so wrong

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 June 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link

OMG every single thing on that EP.

I feel like we haven't talked enough about their lyrics yet. So many awesome moments.

"She should 'use your hands in my spare time / we've got one thing in common, it's this tongue of mine'"

"Drink, f**k, spew... telephone you"

Tim F, Monday, 24 June 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link

i can't exist within my own head
so i exist alone in your bed

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 June 2013 22:32 (ten years ago) link

actually that might be "so i insist on haunting your bed" which, differently good

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 June 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link

"oh well i'm coming to the end of 23," she said, "is that all right?"
"and it's coming to the end of you and me," she said, "is that all right?"
how can you complain about life and talk about being bored
if you just sit at pete's house playing video games, doing sniff that you can't afford

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 June 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link

i was late but i arrived
i’m sorry but I’d rather be getting high than watching my family die

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 June 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link

i could do this for a while haha

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 June 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link

"Now I'm not trying to stop you, love / If we can't do anything we might as well just f**k"

""Oh I think I did something terrible to your body, don’t you mind? / I put your mother through hell, don’t you mind? / I had your brother as well, don’t you mind? Don’t you mind?"

(might be "I hurt your brother as well", not sure)

Tim F, Monday, 24 June 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link

oh i was thinking 'bout killing myself, don't you mind?
i love you, don't you mind? don't you mind?

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 June 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link

NONE MORE EMO

Tim F, Monday, 24 June 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link

PUMPT FOR ALBUM

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 24 June 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link

these guys were awesome live. they opened with "head.cars.bending" which i thought might not function live but it was massive. they played about half new songs, all of which sounded great, one of which kind of sounded like paramore's "ain't it fun" as performed by a slightly funkier blue nile, another ("settle down," i think) which gorgeously mined the same kind of gauzy fake u2 as "you"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 June 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link

oh i guess via setlist.fm that cute jam/lewis/blue nile song is called "heart out"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 June 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link

listening to the ep and yep, i'm sold on this - "me" is definitely hitting some kind of blue nile sweet-spot for me

IKEA-Guinea (donna rouge), Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

kind of sounded like paramore's "ain't it fun" as performed by a slightly funkier blue nile

Geeked up for this even more now

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 27 June 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link

re: "me"

The idea for ‘don’t you mind’ came quite naturally. I was i the process of writing this song and i found myself listening to that 10cc record ‘I’m not in love’. In that song the words ‘I’m not in love’ are used so frequently; as such a statement, that by the last chorus you think ‘….this guy is really in love’.

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 28 June 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

"And why stay if you hate it so much? You think you're well cool / You just write about sex and killing yourself and how you hardly ever went to school"

Tim F, Sunday, 7 July 2013 10:22 (ten years ago) link

Funny how whether or not a band could have played the Bronze is an instantly recognizable descriptor. (Although it also makes me feel a bit old).

MikoMcha, Monday, 8 July 2013 07:47 (ten years ago) link

haha at least by understanding you make me feel less simultaneously old/weird

Tim F, Monday, 8 July 2013 08:26 (ten years ago) link

btw they totally rerecorded "sex" for the album

https://soundcloud.com/the1975/the-1975-sex

it sounds... cleaner. in a good way!

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link

idk i probably prefer the original tho

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link

OG version is better but this is fine

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

Sep 9th is too far away.

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this is odd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKIhXi-yiw8

anyway!

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 26 July 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link

oh and nsfw i guess. that was a surprise

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 26 July 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

Bout what you'd expect with a song like that I guess.

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 27 July 2013 06:12 (ten years ago) link

I struggle to imagine how "Sex" could possibly be improved on.

Kinda ridiculous how emotional I feel about these songs now.

Tim F, Saturday, 27 July 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link

#moremalenudity

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 July 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

It also occurs to me that this band could have played every night at The Bronze and handily catered to any and every mood required by the narrative.

― Tim F, Monday, June 17, 2013 5:25 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok i am listening to them now

k3vin k., Saturday, 27 July 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link

wow, "sex" is the shit

don't hear a ton of 3EB (whom i love) in them, but agree with ned on the shoegaze touchpoints. this is going to sound lame but the first thing i thought of was actually...glasvegas

k3vin k., Saturday, 27 July 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link

Wow not sure how you can't hear some 3eb in there!

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 27 July 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link

He may not have gotten to "Chocolate" or "The City" yet.

Tim F, Saturday, 27 July 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link

is "this is how it starts" an explicit ref. to LCD's "all my friends"?

i think this is merely okay. maybe it will click. i have terrible taste now "anyway!"

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Saturday, 27 July 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link

i have heard this

even through an extremely low quality stream, uh, album of the year

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link

lucky

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link

can confirm the guitars on this thing sound perfectly '80s sophistopop

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 02:20 (ten years ago) link

this is a truly beautiful record that threads together most of the kinds of music i love

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 02:35 (ten years ago) link

knowing that both tim f and brad are already holding this record up like a high school football hero has increased my anticipation by 1000x

乒乓, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link

If lies are being told about this record's quality I will have things to say.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 03:20 (ten years ago) link

ned i think you'll straight up love it

sorry for not being able to contain my enthusiasm for another month

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 03:25 (ten years ago) link

V. good.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 03:25 (ten years ago) link

of all the singles the album is very much in the vein of "chocolate" so if you like that

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 03:40 (ten years ago) link

aaaaah i can't wait until y'all hear "settle down" aaaaah

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 04:09 (ten years ago) link

So I now have like nearly six weeks of hyperventilating to look forward to.

Tim F, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 04:12 (ten years ago) link

recent "acoustic" sessions have been gorgeous near-total reworkings of the songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVI2m_O1Tzs

http://www.wonderlandmagazine.com/2013/08/watch-the-1975-sex-acoustic-wonderland-premiere/

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link

oof that version of sex is horrific

max, Monday, 12 August 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link

hahaha idk it reminded me of this, probably my favorite song off the facedown ep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vKZPlnvSH0

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link

oof that version of sex is horrific

― max, Monday, August 12, 2013 1:24 PM (3 minutes ago)

my favorite version of sex, is the one with your mom

k3vin k., Monday, 12 August 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link

the guitars are nice but why is he singing it like that!

max, Monday, 12 August 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link

lmbo kev

max, Monday, 12 August 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link

ha but no i agree the acoustic version is kinda worthless, the orig is pretty perfect

k3vin k., Monday, 12 August 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link

ahaha i'm probably just desperate for them to release something from the album proper already

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link

Is their any thing on the album that shows their more ambient side like from the EP's or is everything more in line as to what the main singles are like?

MarkoP, Monday, 12 August 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link

it's more in line with the singles except for "the 1975," "money," "an encounter," "12," and "menswear." most of these are really short

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link

They should do a bonus disc of straight Wham!bience.

Tim F, Monday, 12 August 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link

I prefer bi-curious Wham!bience

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 August 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link

Selected Wham!bience Works

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 August 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link

I think you mean "Selected Wham!bient Works, 8.5" - 9.2""

Tim F, Monday, 12 August 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link

;-)

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 August 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link

Besides the occasional Snow Patrol vibe that I'm a bit unsure about, I'm enjoying these EPs.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 15 August 2013 07:02 (ten years ago) link

here's, uh, a remix of a song from the album https://soundcloud.com/ludmilla-santos/the-1975-pressure-bear-face

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 19 August 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link

which i find really bizarre but okay

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 19 August 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link

this is mostly unintelligible but dope http://www.spin.com/articles/the-1975-chocolate-video-acoustic-vagrant/

J0rdan S., Monday, 19 August 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link

yeah that's prob better than the one i posted upthread

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 19 August 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link

Not really paid much attention to the EPs, so must revisit. Just been listening to the album and some of it's brilliant – some really sharp lyrics in there. I prefer the choons to the ambient ones, but maybe I'd feel different if I'd listened to them earlier.

If you tolerate Bis, then Kenickie will be next (ithappens), Friday, 23 August 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link

well, it's only the intro track, but http://www.hungertv.com/feature/exclusive-the-1975/

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 12:38 (ten years ago) link

they premiered "settle down" on zane lowe yesterday; no one's made an individual soundcloud/youtube of it yet so right now you can listen to it here, about an hour and 45 minutes into the show http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b038xp7t/Zane_Lowe_Angel_Haze_and_Earl_Sweatshirt/

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link

ugh i love this song *void resounds* https://myspace.com/myspace/video/live-at-the-log-cabin-the-1975-settle-down-/109405268

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link

that sounds awesome

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 August 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link

those 808 hits

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link

they also premiered "robbers" @ 47 mins in today http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b038xq01

prolego, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

gorgeous song

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link

I am getting so excited for this album.

Tim F, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link

Awesome. The drummer and lead dude look like brothers.

I’m pissed off for greatness (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 29 August 2013 03:50 (ten years ago) link

all these songs
so ridiculously good

uberweiss, Thursday, 29 August 2013 04:17 (ten years ago) link

i'm actually almost in tears help me
these are the best songs i've ever heard

uberweiss, Thursday, 29 August 2013 04:27 (ten years ago) link

haha otm

I’m pissed off for greatness (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 29 August 2013 04:27 (ten years ago) link

i'm actually almost in tears help me
these are the best songs i've ever heard

when i first heard "talk!" this was precisely how i felt

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 August 2013 04:33 (ten years ago) link

the instrumental section in "settle down" I AM DANCING AROUND MY ROOM THIS IS THE HAPPIEST I'VE EVER BEEN

uberweiss, Thursday, 29 August 2013 04:51 (ten years ago) link

you guys are killing me

Tim F, Thursday, 29 August 2013 05:38 (ten years ago) link

which is funny bc my favorite part of "robbers" is definitely now everybody's DEAAAAAD

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 August 2013 05:42 (ten years ago) link

which, for ppl who can't be bothered to dig through the zane lowe stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buY9jJ4nqiE

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 August 2013 05:43 (ten years ago) link

M.O.N.E.Y.

https://soundcloud.com/the1975/money

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 August 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link

??? There's nothing bad or offensive about any of these songs but I don't see what the big deal is. They sound like any multitude of bands you'd see covered by Alternative Press. Like a late 2000's emo band reinventing themselves as an opener for Maroon 5.

All kinds of heinous things, Thursday, 29 August 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link

idk

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link

Like a late 2000's emo band reinventing themselves as an opener for Maroon 5.

― All kinds of heinous things, Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:32 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark

holy shit this description is PERFECT

J0rdan S., Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link

please "All kind of heinous things" allow me to direct you to MAROON 5 SINGLES POLL

J0rdan S., Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link

I'm jealous of how much you guys are liking them, I can hear that I should be into it but they remind me too much of every tool hanging out at the Old Blue Last (which I have no reason to believe is a fair assessment) for me to listen with adequately open ears.

Clyde One DJ Diane “Knoxy” Knox-Campbell (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link

holy shit this description is PERFECT

yeah the reason i find them pretty novel is i don't have a precedent for a hybridization of emo and '80s r&b

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link

The instinctive aversion of people with taste kinda makes me enjoy them more? idk

Tim F, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link

poor ithappens then ..

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/aug/29/the-1975-the-1975-review

mark e, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link

I'M NOT YOUR TYPICAL STONED 18 YEAR OLD

uberweiss, Friday, 30 August 2013 04:18 (ten years ago) link

HAS HE GOT ENOUGH WEED NO BROKEN PHONE RETCHING ON THE FLOOR ALONE

uberweiss, Friday, 30 August 2013 04:25 (ten years ago) link

why are you singling him out is it because of his race

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 30 August 2013 05:05 (ten years ago) link

*rubs hands*

k3vin k., Friday, 30 August 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link

"is there somebody who can watch you" sorta on that spare piano mark hollis tip

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 30 August 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

They sound like any multitude of bands you'd see covered by Alternative Press.

Just turned in my AP review this morning, ha ha. It'll be on their website early next week.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 30 August 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link

i'm curious as to your take on it phil. looking forward to the review

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 30 August 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link

I'm curious how AP's readers will respond to it, since to me this album sounds super '80s - I reference Wang Chung, Fun Boy Three, General Public and John Hughes movie soundtracks.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 30 August 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

this is the best album of all time (only halfway through)

I’m pissed off for greatness (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

yep

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

this is the best album of all time (only halfway through)

Tim F, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

yep

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link

streaming tears of joy

Tim F, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link

push your lack of chest out
look at my hair
gotta love the way you love yourself

your obsession with rocks and brown and fucking the whole town is a reflection on your mental health

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link

what's with shipley's silence on these kids?

k3vin k., Friday, 30 August 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link

way too british for shipley right?

J0rdan S., Friday, 30 August 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link

yeah that was my thought too

"settle down" btw, man

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link

the percussion cadence in "pressure" reminds me of "steal my sunshine"

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:26 (ten years ago) link

hi what'd I miss??

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:27 (ten years ago) link

feel like this thread is made for me

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:28 (ten years ago) link

all my ILX and real life bros are defending this thing, so I'm downloading now

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:30 (ten years ago) link

I'm loving "Heart Out", though it does make me want to start singing the lyrics of "This Must Be The Place" on top of it.

MarkoP, Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:34 (ten years ago) link

what's with shipley's silence on these kids?

― k3vin k., Friday, August 30, 2013 4:54 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've got the Shipley's covered on this one.

I’m pissed off for greatness (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 31 August 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link

Missing the more ambient, drifting tracks from the EP's.

MikoMcha, Saturday, 31 August 2013 04:29 (ten years ago) link

Those are cool n all but this album is something special. No complaints at all.

I’m pissed off for greatness (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 31 August 2013 04:42 (ten years ago) link

I think the second half is even better than the first half.

I’m pissed off for greatness (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 31 August 2013 04:43 (ten years ago) link

"menswear" is an excellent hybrid of the ambient drifting stuff and the stuff on the album so it's hard for me to miss that aspect

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 August 2013 04:55 (ten years ago) link

also "menswear" is literally about going to a wedding in a remote location and not being able to find drugs and therefore getting piss drunk

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 August 2013 04:55 (ten years ago) link

Oh, I was hoping it was a subtle jab at Scott Schuman.

Murgatroid, Saturday, 31 August 2013 04:59 (ten years ago) link

I listened to one of their songs on YouTube
Sounded like John Mayer

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 31 August 2013 05:02 (ten years ago) link

lol

markers, Saturday, 31 August 2013 05:05 (ten years ago) link

I can hear some (electric) Neon in this actually.

I’m pissed off for greatness (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 31 August 2013 05:08 (ten years ago) link

also "menswear" is literally about going to a wedding in a remote location and not being able to find drugs and therefore getting piss drunk

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, August 30, 2013 9:55 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha, Menswear is a jam. I didn't think it was going to go anywhere beyond what it was doing but that abrupt drop is perfect.

I’m pissed off for greatness (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 31 August 2013 05:11 (ten years ago) link

The first few listens didn't do much for me beyond Sex, The City, and Settle Down but after listening to it on my "good" headphones instead of the ones I usually use, ones where the right earpiece falls off the band if I tilt my head too far to the right because I didn't tape it well enough, anyway, I listened to this on decent headphones and I'm suddenly enjoying it a lot more.

Murgatroid, Saturday, 31 August 2013 05:13 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, the absence of the ambient stuff isn't anything like a deal breaker, since the album is so focussed and most tracks are total pop songs with big hooks.

MikoMcha, Saturday, 31 August 2013 08:46 (ten years ago) link

"girls" is pure bliss

uberweiss, Saturday, 31 August 2013 08:50 (ten years ago) link

aoty/d/c/m

uberweiss, Saturday, 31 August 2013 08:50 (ten years ago) link

Maybe it's that the atmosphere and melodies on the EPs felt a bit more open-ended and exploratory, so there was more space for imagining what kind of style they were putting together. Need to listen to the album a few more times, but it's certainly more snapped together.

MikoMcha, Saturday, 31 August 2013 08:52 (ten years ago) link

like in "girls" i think the chorus has just finished but no that was just the pre-chorus and the massive hook is still to come. and the extended instrumental outro like omgggggggggggg

uberweiss, Saturday, 31 August 2013 08:56 (ten years ago) link

I KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SALVATION IN THE SECULAR AGE BUT GIRL I'M NOT YOUR SAAAAAAVIOR

prolego, Saturday, 31 August 2013 09:09 (ten years ago) link

So good. While I love the ambient stuff, I don't miss it on the album (plus, it's not hard to have a separate playlist of those tracks - I just hope they do more EPs rather than go entirely in the direction of the album).

toby, Saturday, 31 August 2013 10:34 (ten years ago) link

I think you mean "Selected Wham!bient Works, 8.5" - 9.2""

― Tim F, Monday, August 12, 2013 11:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just felt like that needed to be reposted.

toby, Saturday, 31 August 2013 10:35 (ten years ago) link

I KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SALVATION IN THE SECULAR AGE BUT GIRL I'M NOT YOUR SAAAAAAVIOR

― prolego, Saturday, 31 August 2013 10:09 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

aight this line sold me, i'm going in

r|t|c, Saturday, 31 August 2013 10:42 (ten years ago) link

damn son who produced this shit it's stellar

r|t|c, Saturday, 31 August 2013 10:47 (ten years ago) link

I've not heard a note of this band but this is... not the selection of posters I expected to see repping.

Matt DC, Saturday, 31 August 2013 11:08 (ten years ago) link

emo-wave is the new ting round here, keep up

the only ting matter of fact :/

r|t|c, Saturday, 31 August 2013 11:11 (ten years ago) link

anyway tho

i can't quite believe 'm.o.n.e.y' just happened

r|t|c, Saturday, 31 August 2013 11:12 (ten years ago) link

not least because.. it didn't feel out of place at all

r|t|c, Saturday, 31 August 2013 11:13 (ten years ago) link

Haha Matt if you come on board with this as well it will be perfect, a giant cosmic reverse-birthday-present for Lex.

Tim F, Saturday, 31 August 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link

Top row second from the left is a decent likeness of me actually.

Tim F, Saturday, 31 August 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link

as long as I'm Captain Cold!

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 August 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link

Really coming around to the rerecorded "Sex" - the mushy quality is right for the album, and I love the lip-quivering softness of "hhhhow" in the opening "And this is how it starts..."

Tim F, Saturday, 31 August 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link

emo-wave is the new ting round here, keep up

the only ting matter of fact :/

― r|t|c, Saturday, August 31, 2013 11:11 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah what does it say that this and Paramore are likely to be my one-two-punch for 2013??

Tim F, Saturday, 31 August 2013 12:56 (ten years ago) link

AN
KLE
BI
TERS?

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 August 2013 12:56 (ten years ago) link

FUCK my uh, preview copy had the first five tracks in wrong order and now i have to forge new memories :(

1.sex 2 the 1975 3 the city 4 chocolate 5 money

worked well fwiw

r|t|c, Saturday, 31 August 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link

1.sex 2 the 1975 3 the city 4 chocolate 5 money

^^ chapters in my memoir

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 August 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link

LP leaking

More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link

oh shit I'm late to the party (embarrassed face)

More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link

okay i've come around this is the best album of all time.

Clyde One DJ Diane “Knoxy” Knox-Campbell (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link

Yeah what does it say that this and Paramore are likely to be my one-two-punch for 2013??

― Tim F, Saturday, 31 August 2013 13:56 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

it's definitely got nothing to do with a bunch of aged hacks awash with keening saudade that's for sure

r|t|c, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link

T_T

Tim F, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link

haha i was agreeing with you!

r|t|c, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link

I'm crying in recognition.

Is there an emoticon that adds a hint of ruefulness.

Tim F, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link

In fact from now on maybe I will just conduct all conversations about these albums via LINE.

Tim F, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link

Really coming around to the rerecorded "Sex"

i think i like it better now; it's probably just the way they produced it but it seems brighter and more energetic

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link

way i worded that suggests i should be bizarro in the legion of doom

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link

lol at rtc's order of tracks starting off with "this is how it starts"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link

I KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SALVATION IN THE SECULAR AGE BUT GIRL I'M NOT YOUR SAAAAAAVIOR

thank you prolego for parsing this line, i once was lost but now am etc.

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link

well yes exactly!! xp

the missequencing i'm most butthurt about is 'money' though, shows its clever hand just that bit too soon now

r|t|c, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link

Funny thread!

I think I would end up liking these guys a lot if they were played on the radio all the time

rooibos in disguise (wins), Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link

a false moment i can never have again, truly i am having the realest crash course in this album

r|t|c, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

'sex' is a-list radio 1 bruv

r|t|c, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link

and she said use YOUR HANDS AND MY SPARE TIME

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link

she's got a boyfriend anyway

markers, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link

now we're just outside of town
AND YOU'RE MAKING YOUR WAY DOWN

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

Ah rtc I only listen to mersh radio at work and 1xtra at home. 3 sometimes on a comedown and I occasionally pretend I listen to 4 but I don't really

rooibos in disguise (wins), Saturday, 31 August 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

This is okay but I'm not sure I'm really feeling the magic.

Matt DC, Saturday, 31 August 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

but you concede it is magical, your honor the defense rests

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 August 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link

haim have got boyfriends anyway

r|t|c, Saturday, 31 August 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

wins my man if u like bilal, jose james and 1xtra why are you being coy about hollering at the god

r|t|c, Saturday, 31 August 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link

these guys are playing for free here next week, do you think they'll be more swoony dreamy emobient live or more shitty indie plodders?

RAWK of Agger's (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link

Dunno what you're talking about m8 xp

rooibos in disguise (wins), Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

srsly think i'm just gonna leave 'settle down' on loop and call it a day, there are no other songs in the world

r|t|c, Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link

these guys are playing for free here next week, do you think they'll be more swoony dreamy emobient live or more shitty indie plodders?

idk what you're on about but they're great live

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link

sometimes they play "head.cars.bending" and they make it pretty massive

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link

In fact from now on maybe I will just conduct all conversations about these albums via LINE.

― Tim F, Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:34 AM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which bear sticker would you use

乒乓, Saturday, 31 August 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link

I was thinking more of Moon.

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/line_pr-aaa/imgs/5/7/5719c361.png

Tim F, Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link

nice - moon was actually the correct choice here. you passed the test

乒乓, Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link

I listened to Chocolate and the EP version of Sex again and I think I'm starting to get hooked. Kind of afraid.

All kinds of heinous things, Saturday, 31 August 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link

Finally tracked this down (as opposed to listening to the stream) and took it with me to the gym. Most emotional session ever.

"M.O.N.E.Y.", "Settle Down", "Girls" and "Menswear" are all thoroughly ~my shit~

Tim F, Sunday, 1 September 2013 06:03 (ten years ago) link

I like how "M.O.N.E.Y." and "Menswear" are like like parts two and three of a trilogy started by "So Far (It's Alright)".

Tim F, Sunday, 1 September 2013 06:05 (ten years ago) link

Kinda feel like Paramore's 'It Aint Fun' is a first cousin once removed to like half this album.

I’m pissed off for greatness (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 2 September 2013 04:52 (ten years ago) link

tru

J0rdan S., Monday, 2 September 2013 04:55 (ten years ago) link

"girls" is so good

J0rdan S., Monday, 2 September 2013 05:00 (ten years ago) link

also the final 2 mins of "settle down"

J0rdan S., Monday, 2 September 2013 05:04 (ten years ago) link

and the first min of Pressure

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:06 (ten years ago) link

Just did a road trip to San Diego with the wife sans kids for a childhood friend's wedding. This and Paramore are pretty much all we listened to there and back and driving up and down the coast. I haven't had an album strike me down like this in a long time.

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:12 (ten years ago) link

Sort of enjoying this. Sounds like a cross between Prefab Sprout and John Waite in both sound and vision.

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Monday, 2 September 2013 10:51 (ten years ago) link

Don't know anything about this mob but, somewhat bizarrely, they were on this yesterday

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 2 September 2013 11:18 (ten years ago) link

Haha Matt if you come on board with this as well it will be perfect, a giant cosmic reverse-birthday-present for Lex.

I vomited on his living room floor instead. Which I think on balance would have been the preferred option of the two.

Matt DC, Monday, 2 September 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link

Tabs with unlimited 0's
New clothes
Bloody nose
Powders and walking back home
Has he got enough weed?
No
Broken phone
Retching on the floor alone
I can't believe that we're talking about him

Tim F, Monday, 2 September 2013 11:22 (ten years ago) link

What's up with this dude's accent by the way? I can't work out what's going on with his vowels at all, if someone hadn't told me they were from Manchester I would never have guessed. They've got an inherent Aussieness to them that I can't put my finger on.

Matt DC, Monday, 2 September 2013 11:26 (ten years ago) link

perhaps its an unfortunate consequence of the dude's oral fixation

r|t|c, Monday, 2 September 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link

and i've been thinking lots about your mouth

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 2 September 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link

mouth in every song it seemed to me

r|t|c, Monday, 2 September 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link

True, ergh... cannot un-hear.

MikoMcha, Monday, 2 September 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link

lol, always happy to help

r|t|c, Monday, 2 September 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

as per upthred it's really kinda amazing how many names you'd be within your rights to throw at this lot

my uncultured mind added vampire weekend, my chemical romance, the streets, savage garden...

r|t|c, Monday, 2 September 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link

lol @ savage garden

k3vin k., Monday, 2 September 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

yeah, like, a "related acts" matrix for this band would be crazy/divisive/hilarious

J0rdan S., Monday, 2 September 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link

arctic monkeys for poptimists

J0rdan S., Monday, 2 September 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link

aw hell let's toss The Outfield into this stew too.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 September 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link

haha tbf i do have a totally romanticised and probably totally baseless mental image of savage garden

r|t|c, Monday, 2 September 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link

Still a funny thread!

rooibos in disguise (wins), Monday, 2 September 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link

mm yeah i'd been trying to put his parentage to the back of my mind

r|t|c, Monday, 2 September 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link

i spose a crit could put it to shitty use wrt the kid's thespy fluidity and observational indulgences

r|t|c, Monday, 2 September 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link

OK fine I downloaded Savage Garden's "I Want You."

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 September 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link

I get reminded of stuff from M83's last album at points, though that may have been more from some of the EP material.

MarkoP, Monday, 2 September 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

Looks like there's a 2CD deluxe edition with all the EPs on the second disc.

michaellambert, Monday, 2 September 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link

Def m83 vibes xp

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 2 September 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link

This album is the fucking best, my high expectations are surpassed. No ~deep thoughts~ yet, just letting it wash over me... Wow.

And Tim F leaving a trail of otm's all over this thread <3

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 2 September 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link

my uncultured mind added vampire weekend, my chemical romance, the streets, savage garden...

― r|t|c, Monday, September 2, 2013 5:55 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

These are all correct. esp last the two.

Tim F, Monday, 2 September 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link

i keep confusing this band with vampire weekend :/ sorry dudes. my indie pop muscles have atrophied.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 September 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link

Xpost actually quite a few of the new songs here are really really really The Streets' "It's Too Late" multiplied by Savage Garden's "The Animal Song".

Tim F, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link

After loading those tracks up on YouTube, just... no.

MikoMcha, Monday, 2 September 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link

jesus christ what is this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5FMeAPpc8A

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 2 September 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link

cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVcG9lpZV24

J0rdan S., Monday, 2 September 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link

Actually, Savage Garden is totally accurate, but why the Streets? Is it the accent?

MikoMcha, Monday, 2 September 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link

More when he starts talking really fast about weed and sex and killing yourself and how you hardly ever went to school.

Tim F, Monday, 2 September 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link

ambient geezer dramedy of 'menswear' run the bell loudest

r|t|c, Monday, 2 September 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link

I'm sitting with a girl
Fortunate placing
Preceding railing racket off a porcelain basin

r|t|c, Monday, 2 September 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link

also whichever song it is where some girl's "throwing bensons" (in his mouth) (obviously)

r|t|c, Monday, 2 September 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link

Well, who's this? Going for the kiss,
I'm probably gonna yosh in your mouth.
Because it's 5 past 3, I can hardly see and I'm on the verge of passing out.

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link

ambient geezer dramedy of 'menswear' run the bell loudest

― r|t|c, Monday, September 2, 2013 11:11 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also "So Far (It's Alright)" on the IV ep.

As noted above I see those two and "M.O.N.E.Y." as forming something of a trilogy

Tim F, Monday, 2 September 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link

yeah i need to do the eps

beyond the geezaesthetic moments he also often does a kind of skinnerish in-the-moment but out-of-body lucid narration idk

dont know vampire weekend quite well enough to say for sure but i feel koenig's eye is in there a little bit too, not just how 'talk!' sounds

r|t|c, Monday, 2 September 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link

I like your face despite your nose

r|t|c, Monday, 2 September 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link

i guess maybe that sort of line's kind of a generic britlad kicker tho

r|t|c, Monday, 2 September 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link

mike skinner remix of "m.o.n.e.y." is p terrible unfortunately/expectedly (?) (idk i've barely listened to the streets)

lissvik remix of "settle down" is a blast tho

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 05:28 (ten years ago) link

holy shit this is so good

tpp, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 06:17 (ten years ago) link

2nd serve of "way out" 4 life

uberweiss, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 06:22 (ten years ago) link

wait, i meant "heart out"

"she way out" is the only one that isn't blowing me away rn

uberweiss, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link

Adding to the laundry list of comparisons in this thread, it's as if the Jacques Lu Cont remix of the Killers "Mr Brightside" had spawned a bunch've NME bands rather than frankendance/bloghouse hybrids (or, IDK, these songs are the 7" originals of JLCs extended 80s 12" expansions rather than the sow's ears they more often than not were).

Would like some explication of the accent. Anything off this likely to chart in the UK?

etc, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 06:39 (ten years ago) link

oh i guess via setlist.fm that cute jam/lewis/blue nile song is called "heart out"

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, June 27, 2013 1:52 PM (2 months ago)

"Robbers" has got a bit of a "Downtown Lights" vibe to it, tbh.

etc, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 07:13 (ten years ago) link

I think "Chocolate" already charted pretty high?

IMO "She Way Out" is the first and only tune that feels a bit too generically in line with a lot of other stuff on the album, or at least it's in the dead center of whatever constellation is traced by "Chocolate", "Talk!", "Heart Out", "Settle Down" and "Girls" without having any of the distinctive features that each of those tunes has.

Funny thing is that "Chocolate" aside they'd not really done anything remotely in that vein before the album itself.

I'll be interested to see what people who get into them via the album think when they go back to tunes like "Undo", "You", "Me", "Fallingforyou", "Haunt // Bed"... none of which really sound like anything here.

Tim F, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 07:13 (ten years ago) link

hah the synth washes on the first track gave me a killers vibe xxp

乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 11:24 (ten years ago) link

wait i guess that's the second track

乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 11:24 (ten years ago) link

They just remind me of Phoenix really but without Phoenix's essential shitiness.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 11:38 (ten years ago) link

i get a Bloc Party first album vibe off this too but all dreamy and inward instead of spiky and panicked

imagine Brigadoons (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 11:42 (ten years ago) link

Yeah that too.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 11:43 (ten years ago) link

that might hit the closest as to why i love this

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link

fuck i was gonna mention bloc party

乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link

i'm gonna throw this out instead: hot hot heat

乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link

gareth from los camp tweeted at me that this band's lead singer's mom is on the UK version of "the view" ??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denise_Welch

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link

flagging that post, dayo

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhsIgnOi7hQ

fyi btw bloc party dude is probably going #1 with this soon

r|t|c, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:08 (ten years ago) link

jesus fucking christ the lack of shame itt

the comparison points you guys are throwing out, the actual worst music ever

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:10 (ten years ago) link

i was hoping the bloc party thing would break lex's silence

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:11 (ten years ago) link

i stan for bloc party's first two albums but i can't for the life of me understand why dance producers use him as a vocalist

the big instrumental moments on this sub focus track are pretty effective though

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:13 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Wtm1Cfn.jpg

乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:13 (ten years ago) link

Original video for 'Robbers' seems really 90s indie alternative vibe. I think they recorded it as The Big Sleep, or Talk House?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSgRz53bIM

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:22 (ten years ago) link

i stan for bloc party's first two albums

as i said, the lack of shame is astounding

no one should stan for anything about bloc party

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link

anyway this 1975 guy's voice is the fucking worst, actually unlistenable. would rather hear his mother singing

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link

acts referenced so far itt:

("prime-time") 3rd Eye Blind
James Blake ("expiring")
("next gen") Matchbox Twenty
My Vitriol
Kitchens of Distinction
Poole
Robbie Williams
A Mountain of One ("if they'd gone more pop and less pachouli")
The House of Love
Placebo
Paramore
("a slightly funkier") Blue Nile
("gauzy fake") U2
Glasvegas
Wham!("bience")
Snow Patrol
Wang Chung
Fun Boy Three
General Public
John Mayer
Vampire Weekend
My Chemical Romance
The Streets
Savage Garden
The Outfield
M83
Phoenix ("but without Phoenix's essential shitiness")
Bloc Party ("but all dreamy and inward instead of spiky and panicked")
Hot Hot Heat

max, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:49 (ten years ago) link

in case no-one was aware, the limited edition includes all the eps on the second disc.

mark e, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link

i agree with most of that and would add Jimmy Eat World

max, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:51 (ten years ago) link

that list somehow looks even worse all in one place. the actual worst music ever

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, not really the hippest set of influences there.

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link

The cover of Chris Malinchak is also a weird move.

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:55 (ten years ago) link

Someone also mentioned John Waite and Prefab Sprout.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 13:02 (ten years ago) link

max's list is making me wish i unleashed the sizable amount of r&b this record recalls for me but maybe that's more obvious/actually embedded in their pr

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link

(or, IDK, these songs are the 7" originals of JLCs extended 80s 12" expansions rather than the sow's ears they more often than not were)

for instance i'd say this is otm but to jlc i'd add basically any new romantic 12" and any jam/lewis 12"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link

the expansiveness of a 12" mix drawn back into four minutes

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link

There's Postcard in Girls, too.

Wantaway Striker (ithappens), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

Like if Scritti Politti and U2 had been on the same side.

Tim F, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link

oh fuck EXACTLY

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link

yeah that or this mountain dew kid cudi commericial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jJGKnlIWVc

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link

approachin the hill (approachin the hill (approachin the hill))

markers, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link

Like if Scritti Politti and U2 had been on the same side.

^^ 'robbers' kinda leaves scritti politti out of the equation.

rusty_allen, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:38 (ten years ago) link

Add The Big Pink to that list imo

monotony, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link

Foals and Snow Patrol also

monotony, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link

Oh wait, somebody beat me to the snow patrol ref.

anyway looking at that list this seems like it would be the grossest album ever but it's really not? hooks piled on to infinity. these guys were not on my radar at all, so thanks ilx!

monotony, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 01:09 (ten years ago) link

One band that also came to my mind was the earlier stuff by The Devlins. Particularly songs like Alone in the Dark and Someone to Talk To.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link

genuinely no idea if adding foals and snow patrol is 4 real or designed to make me even more allergic to them

lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 09:26 (ten years ago) link

HOW you can all put up with his voice i have no idea

lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 09:26 (ten years ago) link

reminds me of the Artful Dodger in Oliver!

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 09:43 (ten years ago) link

His voice is fairly anonymous and not actively offensive but I really don't get his intonation at all, there's a bit where he sings "throw ipp on yr shizz" and I genuinely have no idea what accent he's going for.

The first Bloc Party album is a good call actually because the 80s Big Music aspect of that record is often overlooked in favour of the post-punk revivalism.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:23 (ten years ago) link

I suspect if this had come out in 2006 it would have elicited a monumental mass eyeroll.

Not sure about the production and mixing on this though, I wish there was a bit more space - what's the point of having massive 80s drums if there's no space for them to echo round?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:25 (ten years ago) link

It's the stupid accent and the WHINE

Like fucking placebo or something

Lyrics are dumb and overwrought btw

lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:26 (ten years ago) link

Calling this out for being too whiny is like calling Sade out for being too tasteful or something.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:31 (ten years ago) link

this kind of mid-Atlantic meets mid-Thames non-denominational whine/mumble is an improvement on the lumpen fake-localisms of a lot of UK indie from the last 10 years so i think you have to look at as a way for a band to escape that trap rather than be sad cos the guy doesn't have some great soul voice

having said that it wd be weird hearing a band making these kinda musical moves and having a singer with a great soul voice

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:45 (ten years ago) link

but you might end up with what Tony Hadley sounds like in his own head and that doesn't seem like a win

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:46 (ten years ago) link

i think id connect with the band about 50 percent less if the guy didnt sound like a mash of every whiney 2nd wave emo singer

max, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:21 (ten years ago) link

It's true, though: if Hayley Williams sung these tunes the album would be A+.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link

god i have tried sooooo hard to get into that paramore album and i don't respond AT ALL to it, there's nothing wrong with how it sounds but i don't hear the hooks or any way in at all

lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link

which i think is actually BECAUSE of her voice which is just...there

lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link

the 1975 covered a 1D song today on Radio 1

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link

time-honoured indie gimmick :\

iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link

My AltPress.com review.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link

god i have tried sooooo hard to get into that paramore album and i don't respond AT ALL to it, there's nothing wrong with how it sounds but i don't hear the hooks or any way in at all

― lex pretend, Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:14 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

same

乒乓, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link

wow i really do not get this album at all. like i don't have the proper context to like it, is it a britpop thing or something?

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link

acts referenced so far itt:

("prime-time") 3rd Eye Blind
James Blake ("expiring")
("next gen") Matchbox Twenty
My Vitriol
Kitchens of Distinction
Poole
Robbie Williams
A Mountain of One ("if they'd gone more pop and less pachouli")
The House of Love
Placebo
Paramore
("a slightly funkier") Blue Nile
("gauzy fake") U2
Glasvegas
Wham!("bience")
Snow Patrol
Wang Chung
Fun Boy Three
General Public
John Mayer
Vampire Weekend
My Chemical Romance
The Streets
Savage Garden
The Outfield
M83
Phoenix ("but without Phoenix's essential shitiness")
Bloc Party ("but all dreamy and inward instead of spiky and panicked")
Hot Hot Heat

― max, Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:49 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i only like about 2 of these bands so maybe that's the problem

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link

which 2

乒乓, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link

lol at anyone referencing poole (though "car" is probably the second-best indie rock song called "car" ever)

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link

vampire weekend and wham!, obviously

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link

lol at anyone referencing poole

Fine, be that way.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEVXmzHY1lU

MarkoP, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

that's lovely

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

way to make a one direction song kinda sound like a stripped down "angel of mine"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link

studio vibes unreasonably suited toward this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaT1dWMnCCY

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link

i don't really want to hear or think about these guys in the sphere of remix culture at all tbh

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link

otm noodle posts today

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link

i don't really want to hear or think about these guys in the sphere of remix culture at all tbh

their other remixes are hot garbage so you might never have to

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link

Lex not liking this is not shocking. Him not hearing the hooks in the Paramore album is a bit befuddling. It's got hooks for days.

Greer, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

I have tried so many times with that album but to no avail, every time I start wondering when it'll end about halfway through and I can never remember any of it when it ends. It's like if ashlee simpson made a really samey, really long, really one-note and personality-free album

lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link

Like I can hear exactly how it should hit the spot for me but the songs are just not there

lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link

p tenuous posturing even for u tbh

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link

they sound like guster

Andrew Sandwich, Friday, 6 September 2013 02:45 (ten years ago) link

and dispatch

Andrew Sandwich, Friday, 6 September 2013 02:46 (ten years ago) link

man those bands suck

Andrew Sandwich, Friday, 6 September 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link

PRITCHFOKR SPAEKS

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18467-the-1975-the-1975/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 September 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link

Damn. Fucking lack of middle 8's. A rookie mistake.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 September 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link

it's like he's butthurt they kept changing their name

prolego, Thursday, 12 September 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link

Is this album something I need to hear if I didn't like all their early stuff, or does this band still just sound like regurgitated Bloc Party?

Evan R, Thursday, 12 September 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link

evan : i actually think this thread answers that very question

mark e, Thursday, 12 September 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link

I didn't mean to be rude or lazy; I just read the posts under the "now skipping" jump and still couldn't really get a sense of whether this is something people are repping for or not

Evan R, Thursday, 12 September 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

no worries evan.

i did not mean to be snappy .. tis not my groove.

to answer your question : this thread implies that they are indeed ripping off bloc party (to a degree)

several ilm'rs love this album with a passion rarely seen in bits and bytes round these parts, the rest it's a resigned : 'meh ... '

for the record i'm with the 'meh .. '

mark e, Thursday, 12 September 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link

ha I never really got too deeply into Bloc Party so my reaction to it was "this seems to be like a more successful version of what I think the Franz Ferdinand album is trying to do", an opinion I formed by playing three songs off of FF, getting bored, and switching over to The 1975

WHAT DOES SAMANTHA FOX SAY (DJP), Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link

bloc party had that one decent song

fresh (crüt), Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link

It doesn't take much for me to dismiss British buzz bands. I've been burned so, so many times (and the funny thing is I usually like the influences those bands are playing with, but they almost never add anything to them)

Evan R, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link

And I liked that first Bloc Party album, too, but I don't need a second helping of more of the same. British post-punk is some of my favorite music ever, but the revival stuff gets more dire every year

Evan R, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link

Given my first exposure to the band was listening to the EPs without prior exposure to the singles I'm finding people's reference points really curious even when objectively they make sense - but it's hard for me to conceive of a band who make songs like "Haunt // Bed" or "fallingforyou" as "ripping off Bloc Party".

Tim F, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link

Oh dear. And I was going to upload the new Franz Ferdinand to my iPod for a plane ride tomorrow.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

the fourth song on the new FF is the only good one, DJP!

monotony, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link

i can't believe you have any time for franz ferdinand alfred smh, i thought you were proud of your taste

lex pretend, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link

I have a lot of affection for about an album's worth of material.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link

the fact is, if they had tried to rip off the departure then i would be more interested.

(now thats just bloody weird .. banquet has just dropped on the playlist .. )

mark e, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link

Haha lex don't ever look at Alfred's people's list.

Tim F, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link

The only song by The 1975 that I think sounds like Bloc Party would be "Sex", but that might just be due to my limited understanding of what Bloc Party sounds lke.

MarkoP, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link

"chocolate" is such a great track. not too sure about the rest of the e.p. though

Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link

"The City" is pretty Bloc Party, but the resemblance stops after those two tracks.

Tim F, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link

It doesn't take much for me to dismiss British buzz bands. I've been burned so, so many times (and the funny thing is I usually like the influences those bands are playing with, but they almost never add anything to them)

― Evan R, Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:05 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark

white rose movement!

乒乓, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link

this album gets pretty dire for me when they slow down the tempo. i'm also puzzled as to how they had enough material to release a deluxe 2 CD EP. also puzzled by all the interludes (and, upon relistening to the paramore album, the interludes there as well).

乒乓, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link

Haha lex don't ever look at Alfred's people's list.

― Tim F,

ha -- which?

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link

as for this album, I decided this week is okay to meh because I have little patience for adenoids.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link

The EPs are pretty great, still getting into the album.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link

Hey, "Sex" is pretty fantastic! Time to try the album...

the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Friday, 13 September 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link

i'm also puzzled as to how they had enough material to release a deluxe 2 CD EP

idk dayo they've been releasing eps for the past year

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 13 September 2013 03:23 (ten years ago) link

pfork review is almost incredibly tone-deaf, so many bridges on this record?

/stan

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 13 September 2013 03:23 (ten years ago) link

Yeah slightly unusual song structures is actually a bit of a calling card for them?

My latest favourite thing/s are the "Hey!" punctuation shouts in "Girls".

Tim F, Friday, 13 September 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link

Maybe Jason was listening to Gypsy and the Cat by mistake.

Tim F, Friday, 13 September 2013 03:42 (ten years ago) link

idk dayo they've been releasing eps for the past year

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i dunno why i called it a 2 CD EP

but a deluxe 2 CD package seems like something you'd release if you knew that the band wouldn't be around in another year

乒乓, Friday, 13 September 2013 12:19 (ten years ago) link

now embarking on the eps

'haunt/bed' sounds like ar kane, chuck it on the references pile would u sweetheart

r|t|c, Friday, 13 September 2013 12:52 (ten years ago) link

Please live blog your reax - I feel like, more than the album, each song on the EPs is like it's own reference point ecosystem.

Tim F, Friday, 13 September 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link

'so far / it's alright' posits them as black butter's fun boy three

'fallingforyou' gated drums could be anything, i will ambitiously stretch for maybe an imaginary extended 12" mix of peter gabriel / k8 bush 'don't give up'

r|t|c, Friday, 13 September 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link

excuse me while i put that last one on again cos it was really very good

r|t|c, Friday, 13 September 2013 13:05 (ten years ago) link

Haha "black butter's fun boy three" is spot on.

"falllngforyou" makes me think of "let's go out tonight"

Tim F, Friday, 13 September 2013 13:06 (ten years ago) link

these fucking eps... i knew they'd be a bit different but i'm just sitting here like

http://i.imgur.com/TnH1c4N.gif

r|t|c, Friday, 13 September 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link

I'm saying, bro.

Tim F, Friday, 13 September 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link

what's with shipley's silence on these kids?

― k3vin k., Friday, August 30, 2013 7:54 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

way too british for shipley right?

― J0rdan S., Friday, August 30, 2013 7:55 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol called it

not that i ever would've even thought to listen to something with this kind of buzz around it but it assaulted my ears in a youtube ad

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Thursday, 19 September 2013 04:04 (ten years ago) link

buzz is mostly itt only it seems like

J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:13 (ten years ago) link

Do the Brits hate these guys?

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:24 (ten years ago) link

idk any new band reviewed on pitchfork is a red flag for me

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:43 (ten years ago) link

pitchfork mostly dislike them it seems

Tim F, Thursday, 19 September 2013 08:53 (ten years ago) link

#stoppedclock

lex pretend, Thursday, 19 September 2013 08:57 (ten years ago) link

#irony

r|t|c, Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:01 (ten years ago) link

#burn

Matt DC, Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:05 (ten years ago) link

What a horrible sound this band have.

hewing to the status quo with great zealotry (DavidM), Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:09 (ten years ago) link

xpost Brits hate them so much the album went straight in at No 1

Wantaway Striker (ithappens), Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:12 (ten years ago) link

that's prob just from the amount of ilx mentions it's got. they count those now.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:23 (ten years ago) link

i listened to the EPs expecting to have rtc levels of revelation, but i just ended up liking all the same songs i liked off the lp. which is to say, i think this band has produced a really solid EP's worth of songs but not much more.

乒乓, Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:08 (ten years ago) link

i will ambitiously stretch for maybe an imaginary extended 12" mix of peter gabriel / k8 bush 'don't give up'

my entire thesis

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link

count me in altho I'm most just in love with "Chocolate" and "The City" right now

The Reverend, Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:39 (ten years ago) link

that neon skyline shriek over the chorus to 'the city' is something i can never get enough of. when you realise it's not skins but akira

r|t|c, Saturday, 21 September 2013 13:09 (ten years ago) link

plus, plus those fuckin drumz. rick rubin and juan atkins couldn't have co-produced it better

r|t|c, Saturday, 21 September 2013 13:13 (ten years ago) link

Minus the few interludestrumentals, I'd have to go with this atm:

The City > Girls > Heart Out > Chocolate > Sex > Menswear > Pressure > Settle Down > M.O.N.E.Y. > Robbers > Talk > Is There Somebody Who Can Watch You > She Way Out

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) link

is it just me or does anybody else hear philly boy roy in the vocals to "chocolate"?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 September 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link

Wasn't paying any attention to these guys til I heard "Sex" a few weeks ago. The album is a lot more restrained and mid tempo than the single would suggest, so consider me disappointed upon my first listen. I'll give it another shot, though.

the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Saturday, 28 September 2013 04:20 (ten years ago) link

Just interviewed Matt Healy. Really interesting young guy; very vivid and passionate - desperate to explain himself, and his music. Completely unashamed about wanting to make big pop music. And really concerned about the responsibilities- which he obviously hadn't foreseen - that come with becoming a big pop star who kids think is a fount of wisdom. Enjoyed the show at Bowery Ballroom last night; going again tonight.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Friday, 11 October 2013 00:13 (ten years ago) link

oh man i wish i could've seen them

i interviewed him last month but uh that piece never saw the light of day for reasons mostly owing to my own discipline. great interview

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2013 02:38 (ten years ago) link

i don't really want to hear or think about these guys in the sphere of remix culture at all tbh

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 19:43 (1 month ago) Bookmark

http://soundcloud.com/the1975/pressure-artful-remix

oh go on then if u really insist

r|t|c, Friday, 11 October 2013 10:58 (ten years ago) link

'chocolate' sometimes feels like their most inscrutable miracle, like it's hard to fathom how its jaunty indie urchin ingredients don't add up to something pretty appalling

in the end it seems kind of meta almost, listener dazedly intoxicated by the sickly sweet "oh my hair smells like chocolate" rush in the middle of an inadvisable caper

GOT get it GOT get it GOT get it GO... and play it cool

r|t|c, Friday, 11 October 2013 11:18 (ten years ago) link

nevertheless, add busted to the refs list

also fennesz for half of the music for cars ep

r|t|c, Friday, 11 October 2013 11:21 (ten years ago) link

http://soundcloud.com/the1975/pressure-artful-remix

AHHHHH this is perfect. Really runs with the MOR-garage sound Artful established with "Could Just Be The Dancefloor".

Tim F, Friday, 11 October 2013 12:04 (ten years ago) link

And so telling that you can mention Busted and Fennesz in the same post.

Tim F, Friday, 11 October 2013 12:04 (ten years ago) link

haha ikr, immediately after posting i settled on b x f as my go-to line on them should my irl opinion ever be called upon (even if it is imprecise)

r|t|c, Friday, 11 October 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link

i hope it's not just me that listens to 'anobrain' and finds "we take your mum's car to the edge of the town... and we driiiiive" embarrassingly emotive

r|t|c, Friday, 11 October 2013 12:26 (ten years ago) link

It is! Also the gentleness of the multitracked vocals on that tune and stuff like "fallingforyou" feels more precious now given they didn't explore that side at all on the album.

Tim F, Friday, 11 October 2013 12:27 (ten years ago) link

that artful remix

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 October 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link

Was listening to album again this afternoon. At 12 tracks it would have been a perfect pop record. So many great moments.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link

xpost IKR?

I think people overstate the "80s John Hughes teen movie" aspect of the record, like they hear how shiny a lot of it is and then sorta gloss over stuff like"Talk!" (which I'd consider a second tier track anyway) being basically "Once In A Lifetime" sped up

Tim F, Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

"Once In A Lifetime" may not have been in a specific John Hughes movie but that doesn't strike me as worlds away

some dude, Saturday, 12 October 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link

No but it's a busy tune, it's not smooth surfaces like "Don't You Forget About Me" - not that every tune in John Hughes films was like the latter but that's how it tends to get used as critical shorthand.

Tim F, Saturday, 12 October 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link

I think the John Hughes refs are fine - and they refer as much to the variety of styles (it's like a soundtrack album in that respect) as to the glossy 80s sheen. Also to be fair, it was Healy himself who coined it. The difference is the desperation in some of the lyrics of these songs. And the sense that this isn't firmly aimed at one generation. One of the things I get from the writing is a sense of generational dislocation, like different sheets of sandpaper rubbing up against each other, as if Healy is looking both at the teenagers and the thirtysomethings and trying to work out who and where he is in relation to them, knowing he's ceased to be one and not yet become another.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Saturday, 12 October 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Got the deluxe edition with the EPs and listened to them properly and repeatedly, and prefer the hit-after-hit of the album, though the EPs, listened to in a row, present them as a rather different band.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Friday, 1 November 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link

avoided this subconsciously for ages because of the name and assumed that this was garden variety nme indie and if this is what that sounds like now then goodness i am pleased

wish i'd seen the thread and seen who was repping for it so i could've had this in rotation for six extra months or so.

Adding to the laundry list of comparisons in this thread, it's as if the Jacques Lu Cont remix of the Killers "Mr Brightside" had spawned a bunch've NME bands rather than frankendance/bloghouse hybrids (or, IDK, these songs are the 7" originals of JLCs extended 80s 12" expansions rather than the sow's ears they more often than not were).

Would like some explication of the accent. Anything off this likely to chart in the UK?

― etc, Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:39 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is quite true for a handful of tracks here, ditto the inward-focused bloc party. like a bunch of this modern loves and i still remembers and so here we ares instead of the rest of it.

and everything else too

and why is this so wonderful.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 1 November 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link

Alex I specifically brought this to your attention on Facebook at a very early stage!!

Tim F, Friday, 1 November 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link

wait. really? ugh Facebook stupid Facebook eating notifications curses etc.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 1 November 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link

ah well better late than never. struggling to absorb all of this.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 1 November 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link

so many hooks not enough time to jack them directly into my brain

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 1 November 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link

has anyone seen them before? they're here in a few weeks, thinking of going

monotony, Saturday, 2 November 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link

Are they doing any sideshows, or just the Big Day Out?

Tim F, Saturday, 2 November 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link

i have no idea. currently in paris, won't be back in melbourne 'til february.

monotony, Saturday, 2 November 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link

Ah, I assumed you were referring to the Oz tour.

Tim F, Saturday, 2 November 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link

xpost Worth seeing, for sure. I've only seen them in NY, with over 21 crowd. Suspect at any non over 21 venue it might be an odd experience for anyone over 30 and male. My piece with Matt Healy was in the paper today, and all the Twitter action around it was teenage girls.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Saturday, 2 November 2013 01:15 (ten years ago) link

My piece with Matt Healy was in the paper today,

i'd like to see this if it's on the internet anywhere!

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 November 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link

never mind found it, it's great!

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 November 2013 02:54 (ten years ago) link

Surprised no one's posted the video for "Girls":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkubQCI4Fxo

Murgatroid, Saturday, 2 November 2013 03:16 (ten years ago) link

there's a what

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 November 2013 04:01 (ten years ago) link

never mind found it, it's great!

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, November 1, 2013 7:54 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

link?

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 2 November 2013 06:37 (ten years ago) link

Girls video is kinda blurred lines lite but still pretty fun. Drummer playing with girl on his lap was cute.

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 2 November 2013 06:38 (ten years ago) link

They found a perfect lookalike for Healy w that short-haired girl. Same expressive brow.

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 2 November 2013 06:42 (ten years ago) link

xpost Here's my interview

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Saturday, 2 November 2013 10:47 (ten years ago) link

Alex! Kind of surprised you weren't all over this from the beginning.

old homophobic boom bap rap traditionalist (The Reverend), Saturday, 2 November 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link

The fact that one of the girls in the video clip looks like Marnie makes me wish it was more like Girls the show.

Also this song could really do with an extended mix.

Tim F, Saturday, 2 November 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link

The extended outro is begging for a proper guitar solo tbh.

monotony, Saturday, 2 November 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link

Thanks for the link. Good interview.

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 2 November 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Fantastic piece from Brad - TY Tim for the link.

http://www.drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4147286-memory-as-sound--haim-the-1975-and-the-electricity-of-influence

etc, Thursday, 19 December 2013 01:49 (ten years ago) link

thank you etc!

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 December 2013 13:09 (ten years ago) link

real nice!

Al He Miola (Spottie), Saturday, 21 December 2013 03:26 (ten years ago) link

Good piece.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Saturday, 21 December 2013 07:08 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Went to see them again last night in Brixton. Very different from NY. Crowd was almost entirely screaming teenage girls, fanning themselves with excitement.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Saturday, 11 January 2014 10:34 (ten years ago) link

aw just saw a kid with tim healy's son's hair

Pedro Mba Obiang Avomo est un joueur de football hispano-ganéen (nakhchivan), Thursday, 23 January 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link

i'm so attracted to his hair

prolego, Thursday, 23 January 2014 17:59 (ten years ago) link

pidgeot realness

prolego, Thursday, 23 January 2014 17:59 (ten years ago) link

Kinda like the video. I hope they do one for every song on this lp.

Spottie, Thursday, 30 January 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link

same here

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 January 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

saaaax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bvy5TjfOsU

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:07 (ten years ago) link

and inevitably

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bdV98FNdWE

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link

hard core sax

Spottie, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link

:-0 at both of those.

Tim F, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link

Would be pretty okay with their whole next album adopting the Chris De Burgh vibe of their cover versions.

Tim F, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 17:09 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i can't even deal with the fact that i saw them last night i can't believe that actually happened they were so amazing i nearly cried it was so life-affirming NEVER GONNA QUIT IT NO WE'RE NEVER GONNA QUIT IT NO

this is still the best album

uberweiss, Monday, 17 March 2014 05:12 (ten years ago) link

:-( :-( :-( I missed them when they were here :-( :-( :-(

Tim F, Monday, 17 March 2014 07:11 (ten years ago) link

:( that sucks because omg
they played all of the lp except "menswear" and "is there somebody" + they played "milk" + "you" + "so far (it's alright)"
think my favourite moment was the "now that you've got your gun" section in 'robbers'. SO INTENSE.
we had queued up for their noon show but didn't get in due to overcapacity and then i was depressed but then i found out they had a show that night as well and it was only $20 and the guy at the door can't do maths and gave me a 21+ wristband so best night and i still can't believe it happened! soooo good. it's insane how important their music has become to me

uberweiss, Monday, 17 March 2014 07:55 (ten years ago) link

oh hi I just heard 'Girls' for the first time and I am suddenly ALL ABOUT THESE HERE BOYZ

i'm in!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 March 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link

YES WELCOME

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 21 March 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link

they're totally great live, need to catch them the next time they're here

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 21 March 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link

Their show here sold out before I could get my hands on tickets and a guy was selling a pair for $70. Fuck outta here.

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Friday, 21 March 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link

bought the album at lunchtime, omg I'm in love

they are playing Sacto in April (!) hmmmm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 March 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link

It feels so right that you love them too.

Tim F, Friday, 21 March 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link

I know! I was so happy to see all my friends here already :D

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 March 2014 00:07 (ten years ago) link

;_; sacto concert sold out btw ;_;

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 March 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link

I really thought I would be tired of this album by now butttttt nope still listen at LEAST once every other week and still never skip a single track.

IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Saturday, 22 March 2014 03:25 (ten years ago) link

am i the only one who heard a little Fall Out Boy in "Girls"

something abt the tone of his voice reminds me a bit of Patrick

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 March 2014 03:37 (ten years ago) link

There's like 50+ influences listed itt but not sure FAB have come up yet.

IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Saturday, 22 March 2014 03:41 (ten years ago) link

ahem: FOB

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 March 2014 03:50 (ten years ago) link

oy

IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Saturday, 22 March 2014 04:03 (ten years ago) link

Fall Art Boy: lesser:known conceptual artists

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 March 2014 04:07 (ten years ago) link

omg taylor swift offered them an opening spot on her tour but they declined I DON'T THINK I COULD EVEN HAVE PHYSICALLY HANDLED THAT BUT OMG IMAGINE

uberweiss, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:52 (ten years ago) link

lol idiots

markers, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:58 (ten years ago) link

i'll gladly take their place

markers, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:58 (ten years ago) link

what is their problem

imagine that cutesplosion i mean

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 03:17 (ten years ago) link

yeah wow wtf

surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 03:21 (ten years ago) link

we need a petition or a twitter hashtag

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 06:27 (ten years ago) link

opening spot in the UK?

If so, then as much as I hate to say it, declining was probably a sensible decision

Tim F, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 12:16 (ten years ago) link

why?

markers, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 13:35 (ten years ago) link

Because most of the band's fan base would not forgive them for it.

I love The 1975 but I recognise they're the kind of group that would attract a lot of bullshit idiot fans who basically agree with the NME's worldview even if they don't read it.

Tim F, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link

This band suck colossal donkey dick.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 21:54 (ten years ago) link

i don't think the NME even reviewed the album and iirc they were nominated for "worst band" at their awards along with 1D and The Wanted.

all is fair in love and womp (monotony), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 21:55 (ten years ago) link

luv the 1975 hate Taylor Swift NME 4eva

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link

i don't think the NME even reviewed the album and iirc they were nominated for "worst band" at their awards along with 1D and The Wanted.

― all is fair in love and womp (monotony), Wednesday, April 2, 2014 9:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I know! And I suspect the band and their management are sensitive to this issue and don't want to stoke the flames of "fake rock sellout" resentment.

Of course I have enjoyed songs from 1D and The Wanted in the last few years more than any other British "rock" band except The 1975.

Tim F, Thursday, 3 April 2014 00:42 (ten years ago) link

That's a weird read on it, since most 1975 fans I've encountered seem to be young women. Not that there can't be overlap there but I imagine there's more overlap between their fanbase and a group like 1D's fanbase than people might realize or at least acknowledge.

On that note, Healy said that 1D asked them to write a song for them recently.

Greer, Thursday, 3 April 2014 05:30 (ten years ago) link

I feel like it would be kind of weird for a 1975 fan to consider it unforgivable for them to open for Taylor Swift, because like Greer I'd say that, despite their status as a serious, non-manufactured band, a lot of their fans as far as I'm aware are genuine *pop* fans, the sort of people likely to at least appreciate Taylor Swift and 1D. NME readers who salivate over stuff like Wolf Alice, Peace and Drenge are probably more likely to be repulsed by the 1975. But this is all just my own conjecture.

In any event, they are a big enough band in their own right to headline a UK tour. Interesting comparison with them and Charli XCX opening for Paramore on their UK dates; despite "I Love It", she is still very much a fringe pop act in the UK and it made more sense for her to profile-build as a supporting artist rather than go on a small-scale tour of her homeland.

all is fair in love and womp (monotony), Thursday, 3 April 2014 06:13 (ten years ago) link

"Wolf Alice, Peace and Drenge"

lol who are these bands

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Thursday, 3 April 2014 06:20 (ten years ago) link

Yes, NME have decided the 1975 aren't for them – they weren't just nominated for Worst Band, they won it.

And, in the UK at least, they are too big for any support slots outside a stadium. Last tour finished with three sold-out nights at Brixton (15,000 tickets sold). They will be playing 10,000 capacity rooms before this year is out, I believe.

But it's true their UK fanbase is young women – they're very much a pop act over here.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Thursday, 3 April 2014 09:11 (ten years ago) link

Idgaf about any of this stuff. Still love the music tho.

IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:49 (ten years ago) link

Too bad they aren't coming anywhere near Phoenix, would love to see them.

IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:50 (ten years ago) link

Febrile atmosphere at the Royal Albert Hall this evening. Matt Healy did a sweet thing. Took phone from a girl in the crowd, and went round the stage filming and taking selfies of him with the rest of the band before handing it back. She collapsed, obviously.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Monday, 7 April 2014 00:48 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyy3YOpxL2k

literal!

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 28 April 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link

ha, these guys

kidd-gilchrist-douglas-roberts- (Spottie), Monday, 28 April 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link

Note to Tim F: they're on the splendour lineup, which could mean a melbourne sideshow in late July / early August.

ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 02:12 (nine years ago) link

i watched the televised coachella set...sounded good, looked fking cute as hell wilting in the desert heat, two thumbs up

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 03:10 (nine years ago) link

well that video taught me it's "you look so cool" not "you look so cold"

uberweiss, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 03:21 (nine years ago) link

(greatest song of all time obviously)

uberweiss, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 03:22 (nine years ago) link

can anyone successfully parse "you created a television out of your mouth" or should i just flow with the vibe of it

it sticks in my head, i like the way it sounds but idgi

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 03:29 (nine years ago) link

maybe they're going all jeff tweedy a la "crawling is screw faster lash and i blow it with kisses"

markers, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 03:30 (nine years ago) link

I think he just means he spent the whole time watching it.

Which just fits his general obsession with mouths.

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 05:59 (nine years ago) link

ooh i like that

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 06:05 (nine years ago) link

ATTN Tim F: The 1975 playing at the Hi-Fi on Monday July 28.

Also an all ages show at the Hi-Fi on the Sunday beforehand at 1pm, which I think I'll avoid.

ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 06:18 (nine years ago) link

I BEEN ON

Tim F, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 07:23 (nine years ago) link

Sky Ferreira will be out in the same week! All of my adolescence-recapturing stars are coming into alignment.

Tim F, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 11:40 (nine years ago) link

Haha yes. I plan to see both and perhaps also First Aid Kit and / or Future Islands.

ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 12:07 (nine years ago) link

KROQ is starting to play "Chocolate," wonder if it will stick?

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 02:05 (nine years ago) link

lol I read that as "wonder if it will shtick" and it still made perfect sense.

Tim F, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 04:37 (nine years ago) link

i've only heard "chocolate" on hot ac stations so far and it didn't seem like it stuck around on playlists for too long, was nice while it lasted tho

dyl, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 06:30 (nine years ago) link

nooooooooooooooooooo i think their show is sold out :(

ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Thursday, 8 May 2014 23:44 (nine years ago) link

This album keeps invading my brain more and more over time. One of the best albums I've heard in the past couple years

Yeah I also won't get to see them in DC or Baltimore because the shows sold out by the time I got into the album. :( I blame their name - I saw this thread title last year but figured they were like Wolfmother or something. Also a fan of the Bad Suns who they're touring with, so I'm doubly bummed.

Vinnie, Monday, 19 May 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

LIVE. SO GOOD.

Especially "Fallingforyou" and "Me" and "You" and "Menswear" and "Sex".

Tim F, Monday, 28 July 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link

So I guess I should see them when they come here in December then.

Greer, Monday, 28 July 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link

I saw them a month ago and it was the best show ever. I have so many feels.

Nourry, Monday, 28 July 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link

Fiiiiiiine I'll go. Surprised they are coming here to az!

Strictly EZ Snappin' Nhex (Spottie), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 01:13 (nine years ago) link

i'm so mad i missed them AGAIN because it sold out, this is like the third time this has happened >:(

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 01:22 (nine years ago) link

They said they're coming back (again!) in January. Be ready this time!

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 02:21 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Jan 15 at festival hall (ugh!) - I'm ready this time though! Presale starts on Monday.

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Thursday, 14 August 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

spent my free time today trying to make a coherent playlist out of the eps http://open.spotify.com/user/unbornwhiskey/playlist/43L5u0OojGMPdYjFCelofh

i also saw them at boston calling and they were really great idk

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link

i remember when the sex ep came out and i kinda discounted the non-"sex" tracks as mostly strange, subdued, ambient things and now they're some of my favorite music of the past few years

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

Agreed. Still think the album would be improved by having more of that vibe (they could probably afford to lose, IDK, "She Way Out" to make space for it).

I was pleased when Matt said that "fallingforyou" was his favourite of their songs.

Tim F, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 01:54 (nine years ago) link

thx for the link

FKATlovestoFU better (Spottie), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 03:02 (nine years ago) link

hearing "she way out" live totally turned my feelings around about it

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link

two phone everything

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link

Oh yeah I really like the song (esp. "I've got a feeling that marijuana's rotting your brain" becoming "I've got a feeling that my friends are gonna kick in your brain") but coming after "Talk", "Heart Out", "Settle Down" and "Girls" it feels a bit like a superfluous and less distinct amalgam of all four.

Agreed that it worked very well live. When I saw the them the weakest song was "Settle Down", surprisingly.

Tim F, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 10:19 (nine years ago) link

fallingdownthisrabbitholeagain i discovered i somehow missed the totally credible disclosurey remix by the drummer on the 2nd sex ep! awesome

for real waiting with bated breath for what these guys do next (and i don't often feel that way even for fave artists)

r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:03 (nine years ago) link

lil silva should produce the next album fyi

r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:13 (nine years ago) link

but coming after "Talk", "Heart Out", "Settle Down" and "Girls" it feels a bit like a superfluous and less distinct amalgam of all four.

haha yeah true, and i do still kinda feel this way. "m.o.n.e.y." is also a real monster live

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:24 (nine years ago) link

lil silva should produce the next album fyi
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:13 (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol / True

Tim F, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:52 (nine years ago) link

I'm hopeful they don't just continue to refine the whole eighties soundtrack pop thing, it's been a good look but it's such a small fraction of what they can do.

Unless they transmute it into something like their cover of "So Good To Me".

Tim F, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:55 (nine years ago) link

omg I cued up 'Chocolate' this afternoon and oh hi obsession all over again.
I'm sad that I went for a few months without listening to them every single day

WE GET BACK TO MY HOUSE
YOUR HANDS
MY MOUTH

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 September 2014 06:47 (nine years ago) link

I like that Maura and brad Nelson are into this band

jaymc, Sunday, 14 September 2014 07:25 (nine years ago) link

after all this time, "Girls" is starting to get played on US pop radio

some dude, Sunday, 14 September 2014 13:15 (nine years ago) link

yeah i'm surprised it ended being this instead of "chocolate" that managed to get some decent pop radio play but i ain't complaining, it's a nice enough tune

dyl, Sunday, 14 September 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

well, "Chocolate" got to #25 on the Pop Songs chart, "Girls" is only at #32 right now but it's still rising. i kinda wonder if the success of 5 Seconds Of Summer in America is leading the industry to give The 1975 another push.

some dude, Sunday, 14 September 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

1 of those nights where a 1975 song comes on shuffle and i then listen to everything they've ever released for hours on end when i should be going to bed. i swear none of these songs on any of the eps or the lp are anything less than flawless and crucial to my life

we take your mum's car to the edge of the town
and we drive
yeah we go round & round

uberweiss, Friday, 10 October 2014 02:21 (nine years ago) link

it's a legit thing! this happens to me all the time!

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 October 2014 02:35 (nine years ago) link

when "you" seems to be winding down for the night and then

AND I SAY DO YOU WANNA DANCE DO YOU WANNA DANCE DO YOU WANNA DANCE

uberweiss, Friday, 10 October 2014 02:38 (nine years ago) link

and then the last minute omfg like jesus

uberweiss, Friday, 10 October 2014 02:38 (nine years ago) link

<3

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 October 2014 02:56 (nine years ago) link

we take your mum's car to the edge of the town
and we drive
yeah we go round & round

― uberweiss, Friday, October 10, 2014 2:21 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

probably the most important lyric of the last twenty years

Tim F, Friday, 10 October 2014 03:31 (nine years ago) link

i'm not even fucking kidding

Tim F, Friday, 10 October 2014 03:32 (nine years ago) link

my life can be divided into the time before i heard the instrumental sections in "settle down" and the time after

uberweiss, Friday, 10 October 2014 03:36 (nine years ago) link

"You" is so bitchy.

"And it's not my fault that I've f***ed everybody here </humblebrag>"

Tim F, Friday, 10 October 2014 04:51 (nine years ago) link

AND I SAY DO YOU WANNA DANCE DO YOU WANNA DANCE DO YOU WANNA DANCE

otm

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 10 October 2014 05:29 (nine years ago) link

Promise this isn't a brag.

Healy texted me the other day to say that you can get large chunks of the 1975's sound by listening to Hats by the Blue Nile. So I did. And he's right. The 1975 album is the chart version of Hats.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Friday, 10 October 2014 09:31 (nine years ago) link

these guys were awesome live. they opened with "head.cars.bending" which i thought might not function live but it was massive. they played about half new songs, all of which sounded great, one of which kind of sounded like paramore's "ain't it fun" as performed by a slightly funkier blue nile, another ("settle down," i think) which gorgeously mined the same kind of gauzy fake u2 as "you"

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, June 27, 2013 1:50 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tim F, Friday, 10 October 2014 09:53 (nine years ago) link

But it makes me love them even more that the Blue Nile resemblance is entirely deliberate.

Tim F, Friday, 10 October 2014 09:53 (nine years ago) link

def cosign the gorging impulse, lost a few days to them again after brad's playlist

r|t|c, Friday, 10 October 2014 10:07 (nine years ago) link

xpost Ha! Didn't notice that! I recommended him AR Kane in return, giving his love of gauzy melancholy.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Friday, 10 October 2014 10:29 (nine years ago) link

perhaps need to turn down the crossposting a notch now but the ar kaneness of the recent lil silva ep (https://play.spotify.com/album/5rkADFeXR3EZlifZ2wbnId) ('kimmy'!) was specifically what prompted the semi-joking upthread production recommendation

r|t|c, Friday, 10 October 2014 11:23 (nine years ago) link

new jaamm?

Mathew Klickbait (Spottie), Saturday, 11 October 2014 03:49 (nine years ago) link

WHAT IS HAPPENING IM CRYING

uberweiss, Saturday, 11 October 2014 03:54 (nine years ago) link

!!!!!!@

Tim F, Saturday, 11 October 2014 04:50 (nine years ago) link

!

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link

so this is coming oct 30th

uberweiss, Monday, 13 October 2014 02:11 (nine years ago) link

I bet they're just endorsing some pills.

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Monday, 13 October 2014 03:26 (nine years ago) link

Given the release date of October 30, could Medicine be the track that's going to be on this?
http://pitchfork.com/news/57149-chvrches-jon-hopkins-foals-sbtrkt-more-make-new-drive-soundtrack/

MarkoP, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link

Yes.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 12:22 (nine years ago) link

Just heard Medicine: it's rather lovely. A bit like third album Velvets produced by Trevor Horn.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Thursday, 23 October 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

aaaaaaaaaaa

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 October 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link

Lol at ithappens engaging in such wanton us-baiting.

Tim F, Thursday, 23 October 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lur5B3a4_fk

Greer, Thursday, 30 October 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link

like an extended interlude really, nice tho

no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Friday, 31 October 2014 06:01 (nine years ago) link

Not bad. Might like it more if I didn't already associate that three-note phrase with NBC

Vinnie, Friday, 31 October 2014 08:12 (nine years ago) link

the steel drums are a nice touch

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link

one direction "change your ticket"

http://stealinstyles.tumblr.com/post/102563468890/change-your-ticket-four-deluxe

this song is so fucking good
and GOT to be produced by the 1975, right?

uberweiss, Thursday, 13 November 2014 23:25 (nine years ago) link

Wow it really is a 1975 song isn't it? I can hear Matt sing it in my head.

Tim F, Friday, 14 November 2014 10:17 (nine years ago) link

Dirty Hit denying 1975 involvement.

But I was right about Medicine, eh?

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Friday, 14 November 2014 10:55 (nine years ago) link

ah yeah it sounds just like "girls" lol

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 November 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link

this is great tho

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 November 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link

this is.... as good as any 1975 song? is that blasphemous?

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 November 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

It's really good, not sure if I like it as much as Heart Out, Robbers or Chocolate, but it's on par with Girls and Settle Down. If 1975 are not involved with this, then at least there's some degree of catching up here. I like the way they're channeling Scritti so much via 1975 it doesn't really sound like Scritti and totally 1975.

After not having cared that much for Take me home or Midnight Memories I suppose I'm mildly pumped up for this one.

cpl593H, Friday, 14 November 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link

"Stockholm Syndrome" might be them too, sounds a lot like "Heart Out".

Tim F, Friday, 14 November 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

i can't stop listening to this

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 November 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link

The 1975 are absolutely not involved in it in any way, nor with any other track on the record. The song Healy wrote was not used.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Friday, 14 November 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link

wait, is this band good? i assumed they were awful.

alpine static, Friday, 14 November 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link

also do they ever NOT sell out a show? i pay attention to concert calendars in four cities around the country and every time they play any of them, they sell out weeks or months in advance.

alpine static, Friday, 14 November 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link

read the whole thread!

no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Friday, 14 November 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link

The answers to your questions are related.

Tim F, Friday, 14 November 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link

If "change your ticket" is just a rip off then I'm even more impressed.

Tim F, Friday, 14 November 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link

xpost i know, but you have to admit there are a lot of sketchy bands with very passionate, young female fanbases out there selling out everywhere they go. it's a thing right now, and i assumed - unfairly, i admit! - that that's what we were dealing with here.

i shall investigate! glad this thread popped up.

alpine static, Friday, 14 November 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link

Actually that dynamic is involved as well to be fair.

Tim F, Friday, 14 November 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link

Singer Matt Healey is like a bedraggled dog that the fans want to take home and run a bath for.

Tim F, Friday, 14 November 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

I hear some Tears for fears in Stockholm Syndrome too; who would have thought sophistipop would be making a comeback this good.

The last minute or so of Change your ticket, the instrumental part, is a very good Blue Nile via 1975 impression.

cpl593H, Saturday, 15 November 2014 03:03 (nine years ago) link

tbh I think this song is basically perfect

"watching you get dressed / messes with my head" is such a good opening line

also the simple almost naivety of "it's not good to be all alone"

J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 November 2014 05:23 (nine years ago) link

YOU SHOULD PROBLEH STAY

uberweiss, Saturday, 15 November 2014 06:45 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i got a ticket for tonight and omg

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 December 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link

the crowd was awfulll. they played "medicine" for the first time ever i think. it was amazing.

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 5 December 2014 05:28 (nine years ago) link

holding a grudge against that crowd forever for talking full on brutally through "me" "fallingforyou" AND "is there somebody who can watch you"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 5 December 2014 05:30 (nine years ago) link

How amazing were those songs tho

Tim F, Friday, 5 December 2014 08:38 (nine years ago) link

they were unbelievable of course

i ended up spending $60 on my ticket and immediately thought "i blame taylor." of course she was there

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 5 December 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link

WHY DIDN'T THEY PLAY FALLINGFORYOU WHEN I SAW THEM UGH. STILL THE BEST MOMENT OF MY LIFE ANYWAY.

AND YOU WERE IN THE NEAR VICINITY OF THE 1975 AND TAYLOR SWIFT ALL AT ONCE OMG

uberweiss, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link

yeah i'm surprised i left unmelted

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 5 December 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

"me" was really intense to hear live, briefly enhanced by the person ahead of me being really excited to hear it and describing it to her friend as "kind of a slow jam"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 5 December 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link

Yeah the live performance of "Me" really brings out its gothic qualities.

I liked Matt's intro when I saw them: "This song is about me."

Tim F, Friday, 5 December 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link

man settle down -> heart out -> pressure is soooo good in this show

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 December 2014 03:03 (nine years ago) link

the show from "settle on" is basically untouchable, i loved all the sax parts

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 December 2014 05:03 (nine years ago) link

idk if this is coming knowledge but matt says they're recording a new album right now

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 December 2014 05:04 (nine years ago) link

for whatever reason one thing i kept thinking during this show is that 1975 are what bloc party could've or should've been... like if they weren't afraid of how good "i remember" was or kept making songs as dope as "flux" (i'm still sour)

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 December 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link

common knowledge **

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 December 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link

oh yeah he mentioned working on a new album last night, forgot

it'll be interesting bc most of the songs on the album are older than the songs on the eps

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 December 2014 05:14 (nine years ago) link

So are Healy and Swift an item? can you imagine their respective breakup albums omg

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Saturday, 6 December 2014 09:32 (nine years ago) link

pretty sure he's not her type

prolego, Saturday, 6 December 2014 10:04 (nine years ago) link

I love the sax in 1975. That sealed it for me, listening to "Heart Out", then hearing the sax coming in and what were they thinking, these guys have totally lost it, they're not ordinary at all.

cpl593H, Saturday, 6 December 2014 10:52 (nine years ago) link

xxport all the media reports are suggesting they're heading in that direction. Also she dated John Mayer so all bets are off really.

It def. makes sense to me that stuff like "Haunt // Bed" and "fallingforyou" were written after the majority of the album.

Tim F, Saturday, 6 December 2014 12:09 (nine years ago) link

Hey guys getting into this late obv, big fan here, etc

deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 6 December 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link

yessssssss

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 December 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link

I stupidly bought the version on Amazon that's like 16mp3s do I just by the other songs track by track or

deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 6 December 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

Deeeeeej yesssss

no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Saturday, 6 December 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

the deluxe version with all the eps is $18 itself. don't know which is cheaper

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 December 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

Also: who's written some good shit about this?

deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 6 December 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link

ithappens has written some great stuff about them for the guardian http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/oct/31/1975-matt-healy-success-is-brittle

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 December 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link

Fantastic piece from Brad

http://www.drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4147286-memory-as-sound--haim-the-1975-and-the-electricity-of-influence

― etc, Thursday, 19 December 2013 01:49 (11 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

prolego, Saturday, 6 December 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

wtf deej, get and read everything now

More specifically:

1. You really need every single EP track.

2. Brad's piece on 1975/Haim was one of my favourites of last year.

3. This is the first time I've read ithappens' interview though and it's great.

Tim F, Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link

matt and taylor are totally a type imo -- i mean... john mayer, harry styles etc

also she's seen them twice on this tour and he's a total rock star on stage

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link

rooting for them to get together so that it might help 1975 really breakout in the US next album

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link

Nah cos then it'll cost too much to see them

no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

i paid $60!

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

Was discussing this with murgatroid and brad on Facebook: the main problem with them getting together is that he'd be an even better songwriting/production foil for her than fun. dude, which may be foreclosed by a six month forever // down in flames relationship.

Mind you given Matt is almost as details-focused as Taylor it could make for interesting she said / he said comparisons on their respective next albums.

Tim F, Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link

I paid close
To that too but don't want it to double!

no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link

xpost It's kind of amazing and perfect that the two artists about whom I feel most fanficcy are on the verge of hooking up though.

Tim F, Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

imagine the DUETS you guys

we need to make this happen

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 December 2014 00:09 (nine years ago) link

i'm here for it just to see lex's reaction

prolego, Sunday, 7 December 2014 00:13 (nine years ago) link

well lex accepted taylor + jack antonoff so anything is possible when she's involved

J0rdan S., Sunday, 7 December 2014 00:15 (nine years ago) link

i think if we tell him it's either Matt or Russell Brand, he'll be amenable

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 December 2014 00:23 (nine years ago) link

idk if i want anybody to date anybody who drinks a bottle of champagne on stage

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 December 2014 00:31 (nine years ago) link

yr so picky

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 December 2014 00:35 (nine years ago) link

true, i'm just mystified how he can still play guitar later in the set

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 December 2014 01:43 (nine years ago) link

Feel like deej getting into this band is the final missing piece of the puzzle in terms of an ilx hivemind compact.

Tim F, Sunday, 7 December 2014 02:38 (nine years ago) link

otm

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 December 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link

i listen to the album + brad's playlist of the other tracks pretty much constantly

i told a music industry friend how into this band i was and that i thought she would like them and she was APPALLED. she's been telling all her colleagues the hilarious story of how her friend thought she would like the 1975. "real rock music" people (is this a thing? idk) really hate this band!!

out here like a flopson (tpp), Sunday, 7 December 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link

Heard 'girls' on the radio and finally had to get the album. Pretty good stuff... first new band I've really gotten into this year.

LimbsKing, Sunday, 7 December 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link

post that's been the reaction I've gotten too - they're dismissed as a boyband dressed up as rock.

Tim F, Sunday, 7 December 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link

yeah and with certain people you get the combo of boy band dressed up like rock PLUS mainstream rock

J0rdan S., Sunday, 7 December 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

they're the skid row of their day (minus the weird homophobic flare-ups)

maura, Sunday, 7 December 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link

They did get the award for worst band of 2013 by the NME, though that's probably a plus nowadays.

cpl593H, Monday, 8 December 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link

I find it interesting that they seem so strongly disliked by a lot of people who, for instance, gave The Killers a free pass for so long.

Tim F, Monday, 8 December 2014 04:14 (nine years ago) link

isnt there a song where they explicitly reference the killers lol

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 8 December 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link

i can't think of what song you're thinking of deej unless you're referring to the "all my friends" quote that introduces "sex"

which lol/otm to mistaking that song for the killers

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 8 December 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

The boyband reaction is interesting because it's partly otm -- there's definite boyband dna in Healy's vocal approach (though maybe that's because "boyband" is the most recent reference point for what is essentially blue-eyed soul singing). Not that boyband should be an insult, but it's not like people who are hearing that are imagining it.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 8 December 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

i think there's a concision to the songwriting that scans as pop v much

its also produced very 'clean'

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 8 December 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link

i'd think boyband (or at least boyband aimed at midteen rather than tween) is a totally reasonable surmise for a casual scanner, anything else would be unusual

name that sounds industry lazy + hot singer + girlhordes + jangly jaunty 'girls' and 'chocolate' radio singles etc

the unfair dismissal is perhaps that they haven't really had credit for being a really good boyband rather than for the underappreciation of the rest of their variform oeuvre (but then without instruction i doubt that penny would have dropped for me either in fairness)

r|t|c, Monday, 8 December 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

personally i had a hard enough time justifying bloody paramore past guitar acquaintances last year (lol proper angry unreconstructed rockism argument like it was 2002 ✌) so the notion that a cool norm might spot the interest in this lot on their own is super absurd to me tbh

r|t|c, Monday, 8 December 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link

the boyband thing might also be in part due to their working with / being close with one direction

katherine, Monday, 8 December 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

Is it possible they've gotten a lot better live the last year? I've never seen them live but their reputation in the Netherlands has been pretty much destroyed last year after some sloppy, mediocre, meh gigs, according to a unanimous press.

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Monday, 8 December 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link

first time i saw them was in june 2013 opening for the neighbourhood and they were amazing then

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 8 December 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link

There always seemed to be "something" underneath the critique of the live shows, but I wasn't able to put my finger on it. Came from several people who's live reviews I usually value highly though. Think it definitely has something to do with them not being 'cool' in rock circles though. But maybe they just had a bad gig or two, it happens.

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Monday, 8 December 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link

It's all part of the same dynamic IMO: the amount of high-pitched screaming from fans at their shows is out of control. If you were gonna be on the fence otherwise that might tip you into "awful".

Tim F, Monday, 8 December 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link

I'd be amazed if they had problems related to being sloppy live, seeing as how much is triggered/programmed. Which in itself may be a big reason why many rock fans write them off: not authentic enough to be a rock band. Which is a taxonomical mistake anyway: they're not a rock band of any atripe; they're a really smart pop group who teeter into rock on occasion, and who fool people by adopting the poses - moody, black clad, ripped clothes - of a rock band.

BTW Brad, your Haim/1975 piece made me tip off Alex in our NY office to you. Good to see you writing for us. You should get in contact with me, too.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Monday, 8 December 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

Any "stripe" not "atripe".

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Monday, 8 December 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

I agree with the above although I think the "rock" aspects of the band are not limited to their poses and use of guitars (in both cases they're barely pushing further in this direction than OneDirection) but also encompass a lot of their more exploratory impulses - the vagueness of stuff like "anobrain" feels like it exists outside the spectrum of what pop ordinarily will allow of its exponents (exceptions to that rule, like Saint Etienne, tend to have a self-consciously conflicted r'ship with "pop").

That said you can probably dismiss the above given most people's judgments of this band will be premised on the singles rather than EP b-sides.

Tim F, Monday, 8 December 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link

By the way, this group is another Healy touchstone, which I've not seen him mention in any interviews (but seeing as I'm very much the middle aged, father of two, overweight, ginger equivalent of Taylor Swift, he texted me out of the blue to point out).

You can certainly hear where the EP tracks come from here …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwcd23nURAs

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link

nah let's pretend he said british electric foundation instead

r|t|c, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 02:59 (nine years ago) link

BTW Brad, your Haim/1975 piece made me tip off Alex in our NY office to you

i was wondering how that happened. thank you so much!

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 03:50 (nine years ago) link

Regarding the contempt rock community shows them...Well, I haven't seen Matt showing a lot of interest in the UK rock scene either. They're not really enthused about being part of any mancunian legacy; they're more interested in hanging out with One Direction rather than the Arctic Monkeys, their main influences Scritti, Blue Nile and the sophistipop scene which doesn't have that much traction neither among their contemporaries nor the current crop of rock critics. Even amidst the current 80's revival they're pretty much their own thing, and don't seem to care about the bands and the things they should be caring about in order to "belong".

cpl593H, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 10:48 (nine years ago) link

my dislike of the 1975 is certainly not because they're too boyband/not rockbloke enough

lex pretend, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 11:04 (nine years ago) link

They're not really enthused about being part of any mancunian legacy

heaven forfend. not really sure people would hold this against them anyway. they're all from cheshire too.

ogmor, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 12:37 (nine years ago) link

my dislike of the 1975 is certainly not because they're too boyband/not rockbloke enough

― lex pretend, Tuesday, December 9, 2014 6:04 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I doubt anyone was thinking of you when they were referring to the specific type of dislike of this band they encounter from certain circles.

Greer, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link

Maybe lex has been advising the NME under some sort of Al Gore / Naomi Wolf style arrangement.

Tim F, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

The 1975 are the new Beatles.

burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 December 2014 13:22 (nine years ago) link

I see Prefab Sprout was mentioned a few times upthread. I remember Two Wheels Good generating buzz and consternation in the college-radio clique at the time -- the Clash fans who had followed the Jam-to-Style Council lineage approved, and the ones who had gone Dead Kennedys-Black Flag wanted nothing to do with it.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 11 December 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link

They did get the award for worst band of 2013 by the NME, though that's probably a plus nowadays.

― cpl593H, Monday, December 8, 2014 2:19 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Plus or not, it was the most OTM thing the NME had done for years.

Welcome To (Turrican), Thursday, 11 December 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link

How can I not love something that lex and turrican and nme hate. That's an unbeatable venn diagram.

Tim F, Thursday, 11 December 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link

did i talk about how incredible "menswear" was live

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

that was one point where i intensely loved the crowd bc they sang every word

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

The 1975 are the new Beatles.

― burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:22 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So hateful.

Greer, Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link

ha I was mostly pointing out that the Fabs were dismissed as a boy band for screaming teenage girls when they first came out

burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

(I like the 1975 tho not as much as Tim or Brad do fwiw)

burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

can someone work out a genealogy of his voice? i've never really vibed with mallpunk or screamo stuff and what he does seems like a compelling take on it; def gets to me but still remains unloveable if that makes sense

goole, Thursday, 11 December 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link

i kinda feel like frederick in amadeus holding up my hand, "too many... syllables"

goole, Thursday, 11 December 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link

imo they are fking rad & anyone on the fence needs new ears

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 11 December 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link

I've only just listened to this lot for the first time, annoyed that no-one told me that they sound like Aztec Camera or I would have investigated sooner

Eine Feine (soref), Thursday, 11 December 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link

add that to the list

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 December 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link

My wife hates Scritti and Aztec Camera, first thing she said when she caught me listening to The 1975: "I never thought there would be shit like this again"

cpl593H, Friday, 12 December 2014 02:35 (nine years ago) link

Haha, bless.

The above, and my own taking to 1975 earlier already but also One Direction recently: I think both bands could be heralded, in ten years time, for their emancipatory work in the field. Bridging the gap between pop and rock. For some reason it's not "cool" to like 1975. We've established the sonic comparisons between them and 1D in this thread already. Both seem to 'wash' out of their genre like waves, into other genres. Purists hate this, and there will for ever be purists. But I strongly believe both of these bands are doing lots of dirty pioneering work in blurring the lines between 'pop' and 'rock'. And I applaud this.

Special q for Tim F: when I first heard the 1975 - not knowing anything about them - I could have sworn they were from Down Under. They sound so Australian to me, and still do! I can't put my finger on it as to why. Imagine the 1975 having been around back in the day to soundtrack Heartbreak High! Would've been perfect! Do you agree, and if so, why do they sound so Australian? For they certainly are light years away from anything Manchester, either streetwise or gritwise or sound wise.

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Friday, 12 December 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link

I actually think they make sense as a Manchester band (or Manchester-area band). Not that Manchester bands are any one thing, but the Factory/Madchester lineage is really pretty catholic and pop-friendly. Given a few years, it turned punk into New Order. Mick Hucknall and Shaun Ryder only grew up a few miles away from each other.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 13 December 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link

I actually think they make sense as a Manchester band (or Manchester-area band). Not that Manchester bands are any one thing, but the Factory/Madchesterlineage is really pretty catholic and pop friendly.

This is obviously true. No band is or represents a city. But I have difficulty placing the 1975 in any Manchester tradition tbh. Outskirts band really, perhaps more expected to be from Salford or the likes? There's a contrarian element of not wanting to be cool to them, which I love. Must be Salford :)

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Saturday, 13 December 2014 02:10 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

omg this show!

healy smoked and swigged champagne (or maybe just sauv blanc? who knows) the entire fucking time. i've always thought "settle down" was the ONE on the album but maybe after tonight i'm wrong and it's "chocolate"?

"medicine" was the boringest song of the set tbh

walked out into a crowd of parents waiting to pick up their kids, loool

bae sremmurd (monotony), Thursday, 15 January 2015 12:52 (nine years ago) link

I went on Sunday night - it was exactly the same as above (and indeed exactly the same as when I saw them last time, except for the addition of "Medicine" and "Is There Somebody Who Can Watch You" - or at least I couldn't remember the latter from the previous show). I enjoyed "Medicine" though!

Took a friend who likes them but doesn't ~follow music~ and he was really creeped out by the preponderance of 14 year old girls. It was, like, most of the crowd. He was reluctant to accept my (earnest) representations that this was at least in part a sign of the band's quality. Those girls, they know.

Though Healy taking off his shirt for several songs was just baiting.

Tim F, Thursday, 15 January 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link

"settle down" is maybe my fave 1975 song but it was the most disappointing live (not that it was bad). the instrumental section didn't really hit. it kind of tempered the song instead of elevating it to a level of unparalleled ecstasy like the studio version does.

still remember my world crashing down around me at the "WELL NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT YOUR GUN" part of 'robbers' <3

uberweiss, Thursday, 15 January 2015 20:26 (nine years ago) link

i was sitting in the 18+ section so avoided the kids for the most part. it's kind of weird to me that they have such a large teenage girl fanbase. has there been a lot of explicit 1D endorsement? i'm presuming that it's an internet thing because i don't feel like they're ever on the radio here - awkwardly sandwiched between being too pop for JJJ and too alternative for nova

bae sremmurd (monotony), Thursday, 15 January 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link

The girls seemed older than archetypal 1D fans ("14 year old" is probably misleading: it was more like a 14 - 17 spread).

I suspect a lot of it comes down to the fact that Matt Healy's entire schtick is of the redeemable bad boy.

Perhaps the biggest reaction (apart from "Chocolate") among this crowd was for "Girls", a lot of the audience seemed to like the idea that he was singing it to them personally.

And yeah I suspect it's been an internet / word of fingers and thumbs thing.

My boyfriend came along as he has been subjected to The 1975 constantly in the car since about the time of the release of the IV EP, and has grown to like them.

On the one hand he was moved to compliment the stylistic range on display following the guitar pyrotechnics at the end of "You", the goth minimalism of "Me", the Blue Nile balladry of "fallingforyou" and the piano/sax duet on "Is There Somebody Who Can Watch You".

But then after "She Way Out" and "Settle Down" and "Girls" had all played he said to me, "these guys definitely have a lot of songs that sound kinda the same but I like that sound so i don't mind."

Tim F, Thursday, 15 January 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link

bad boy he may be, but healy still seems like a grot - i was a long way from the stage but the whole night i kept thinking "taylor swift is really hitting THAT?"

bae sremmurd (monotony), Thursday, 15 January 2015 23:22 (nine years ago) link

Healy isn't a bad boy, he's a fucking spoilt rich kid. A total poser.

The 1975 attract the 1D crowd because they're a glorified boy band, natch.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 15 January 2015 23:48 (nine years ago) link

Not like the good old days of the Gallagher brothers, eh.

Tim F, Thursday, 15 January 2015 23:56 (nine years ago) link

More like those lesser bands from the '80s that were all haircut and no substance.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 15 January 2015 23:59 (nine years ago) link

The Britpop version of Matt Healy was Crispian Mills, fwiw.

healy is hott
taylor is otm
fuiud

:D

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 January 2015 00:15 (nine years ago) link

Amazing tumblr about the 1975 & 1D: http://hereforthehair.tumblr.com/

Nourry, Friday, 16 January 2015 00:40 (nine years ago) link

Turrican you're being sub-dog-latinesque

Tim F, Friday, 16 January 2015 02:45 (nine years ago) link

i love haircut and hate substance

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 16 January 2015 05:01 (nine years ago) link

probably late but just discovered this great artful rmx of 'pressure'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtAFNq4i9gc&feature=youtu.be

Nourry, Sunday, 18 January 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/X8Hx3cg.png

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/BRnbmCn.png

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link

holy fuck

J0rdan S., Friday, 23 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link

but it's not even meant to be coming out until "feb-apr 2016"!?!?!

uberweiss, Friday, 23 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link

idk

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 23 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link

i could deal with a 2016 release if we get three or four eps this year

prolego, Friday, 23 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link

here's the video where matty talks about a 2016 release. also discusses how hats is one of the best albums ever and there's a d'angelo sample on one of the tracks(!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoxANj3ZSUg#t=8m30s

prolego, Friday, 23 January 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link

also discusses how hats is one of the best albums ever

UGH

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link

<3 jessie ware for being the first person to tell them about the blue nile

prolego, Friday, 23 January 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link

my heart can't take this

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link

ugh i just got to the hats part uuuugh

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link

"i love your band, you must have heard the blue nile bc all of your melodic ideas sound influenced by the blue nile" - jessie ware/me

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link

i like how matty's all what the fuck even was my existence before the blue nile arrived into my life. which is how we all feel.

prolego, Friday, 23 January 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link

fuckin SAME

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link

the top comments underneath the youtube stream of hats right now are all versions of "matty brought me here i'm in love"

doing god's work

prolego, Friday, 23 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link

i got a little caught up in the whole lewis l'amour thing but then kinda realized you know if this guy could write songs and sing he would be the blue nile so why don't i pull out hats instead?

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link

are those records worth it?

goole, Friday, 23 January 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link

the lewis ones?
yeah kinda, interesting vibe i guess, and the story is cool

the blue nile records are the apex of some kinda 80s mournful staring out a lux apartment ennui

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 January 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link

also recommended: escalator in an empty airport

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 January 2015 00:07 (nine years ago) link

driving Tom Cruise's parents Porsche in Risky Business around the empty freeways around downtown LA at 4am

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 January 2015 00:54 (nine years ago) link

crying with sandwiches tied to your feet in the absence of shoes

deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 January 2015 01:05 (nine years ago) link

I've never actually listened to Blue Nile before, checking out 'Hats' - dumb name for an album - but this is pretty great. The Lewis stuff didn't grab me, but Gigi Masin reissue, which I loved, was mining a similar vibe (much more ambient obv.)?

MikoMcha, Saturday, 24 January 2015 09:11 (nine years ago) link

'pretty great'

deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 24 January 2015 15:29 (nine years ago) link

'never heard the apex of some kinda 80s mournful staring out a lux apartment ennui—just streamed on spotify though, decent!'

deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 24 January 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link

whoa thanks for the Gigi Masin reference, Wind is terrific!

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 24 January 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link

lol deej u couldve pulled that trigger on a thousand godless vermin over the past week, why poor decent miko

r|t|c, Saturday, 24 January 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link

"Hats- dumb name for an album " is killing me in fairness

r|t|c, Saturday, 24 January 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link

tbh i think i confused miko with moka subconsciously

deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 24 January 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link

i like how matty's all what the fuck even was my existence before the blue nile arrived into my life. which is how we all feel.

― prolego, Friday, January 23, 2015 9:21 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^^^

Tim F, Saturday, 24 January 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link

Some things about that interview:

1. My bf thought the interviewer was cute and did a good job (not sure how much the latter pronouncement was influenced by the former). This reminded me that the only people older than us at the last concert was a bear couple in their late forties holding hands and swaying.

2. I think Matt did a fairly good job of explaining their liminal / gateway status between boyband and serious project (which turrican was trying to lampoon upthread). I was worried that his definition of pop was going to veer rockist but I think he was thinking more broadly than his specific explanation necessarily comes across.

3. Would be fascinated to learn whether he wrote "fallingforyou" before hearing The Blue Nile for the first time or immediately afterwards.

Tim F, Saturday, 24 January 2015 22:45 (nine years ago) link

tried watching some of that interview but tbrr i dont think i've ever made to the end of any sentence of his

on the plus side tho it did eventually lead me to find this EXCLUSIVE photo of matt and tay togeths omg

http://img1.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/i/s/isx2uh01onbiu20i.jpg?djet1p5k

r|t|c, Saturday, 24 January 2015 23:24 (nine years ago) link

lol so exclusive I am 403 Forbidden.

Tim F, Saturday, 24 January 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link

bah

http://i.imgur.com/mGHQwtO.jpg

r|t|c, Saturday, 24 January 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link

looooooooooool otm

Tim F, Saturday, 24 January 2015 23:45 (nine years ago) link

haha yes

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 January 2015 03:35 (nine years ago) link

'never heard the apex of some kinda 80s mournful staring out a lux apartment ennui—just streamed on spotify though, decent!'

Damn, gotta work on my hyperbole round here!

MikoMcha, Sunday, 25 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link

Srsly though Miko just block out a week of your life to listen to Hats and A Walk Across The Rooftops on earphones while walking through the city, preferably stepping across rain puddles.

Tim F, Sunday, 25 January 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link

I have to admit, I had it on Chromecast running the YouTube stream while I was cleaning the kitchen. This is no way to live.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 25 January 2015 22:27 (nine years ago) link

idk i listened to the lee gamble album like that during a 4am bout of insomnia, it seemed to me like the only plausible way to hear it (havent bothered again since) plus my hob was sparkling after

r|t|c, Sunday, 25 January 2015 23:29 (nine years ago) link

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/the-week-in-music-jessie-ware-is-still-pulling-all-the-strings-8970990.html

With Mercury and Brit nominations, Jessie Ware has had a stellar year. The singer is unveiling her latest song, written with the Blue Nile's Paul Buchanan, at the ASOS All-Nighter on 12 December 2013.

was this unreleased or..?

r|t|c, Sunday, 25 January 2015 23:44 (nine years ago) link

this song is an enjoyable bit of 1975 lite that's tiding me over in the drought

lisbon "native"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZGULuu1KOE

uberweiss, Monday, 26 January 2015 07:59 (nine years ago) link

xpost: could it be "True Believers", which is the only unreleased song in the ASOS set online? It sounds like a Paul Buchanan song, too: http://youtu.be/skJp1zAvBFM?t=6m54s

crispyben, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link

excellent work, thank you

r|t|c, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Walk The Moon are such a fascinatingly appalling 1975 rip-off band I can't deal.

Tim F, Friday, 13 March 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link

thought they'd been around longer

dyl, Friday, 13 March 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link

Appalling band rips off appalling band.

still not as bad as ripping off alex in nyc though

Tim F, Friday, 13 March 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link

for serious though I find this such an amazing car crash of a song / video clip / everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JCLY0Rlx6Q

Tim F, Friday, 13 March 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link

could swear i'd heard of walk the moon before the 1975 but never had an idea of what they sounded like, so i assume this is bandwagon-jumping

imo this song is fascinatingly evil

i know right.

There's a WTM album that predates the 1975 but IDK what I've heard sounds like they were more post-DFA meets Gypsy & The Cat or something.

They seem really Australian to me? Surprised to learn they're from Ohio.

Tim F, Friday, 13 March 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link

New album's been demoed.
People wanting a fix, should listen to this, produced by Healy and the drummer from the 1975.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LPNesOJ9KQ

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Monday, 16 March 2015 13:12 (nine years ago) link

figured someone would share the japanese house song. it sounds really nice, chorus is kind of a mess though

probably bc they're pulling from the same palette but there are some 1975 vibes on the new jam city record

Oooh is that out yet?

bae sremmurd (monotony), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 05:06 (nine years ago) link

listening to the first few songs in this thread and getting real confused by the comparisons i'm seeing. (a better james blake??) 3eb is kinda fair (not debut-level, though, at least not the good songs off that), but for the most part sounds like just about any american apparel model band...what am i missing? someone show me the finesse

i knew them before as the band beloved by k-pop queen ga-in (reason i checked this thread), though...so good for them.

soyrev, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 06:48 (nine years ago) link

those songs probably aren't the most representative, especially of the EPs which is where that really nice late night Blue Nile vibe is strongest. see fallingforyou and Haunt//Bed for probably the best examples of that. i just wish his voice wasn't so yelpy, it can really clash with that, and sometimes the guitar tone feels just too thin?

ufo, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 07:16 (nine years ago) link

Also "Me" which is not remotely yelpy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu0xlyLwK7Q

Tim F, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 11:57 (nine years ago) link

monotony: the jam city record is streaming here http://hypem.com/premiere/jam+city

iirc "a better james blake" was a comparison someone made while talking about "head.cars.bending" so i'd maybe listen to that one

i guess "chocolate" is a pretty accurate portrait of how the album generally sounds, but also not really, what with "talk," "menswear," "m.o.n.e.y."

think the comparisons in this thread are less confusing than representative of the breadth of music this band has recorded, and also the richness even within their relatively narrow john hughes-y stuff

wow Walk the Moon totally sound/look like the Hip™ for Basics version of The 1975

raih dednelb (The Reverend), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link

Oh ha, they're mentioned 4 posts into that thread.

raih dednelb (The Reverend), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link

Yeah that is spot on.

Tim F, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 04:18 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Lincecum’s new ’do: Tim Lincecum arrived at work with much shorter hair, courtesy of the barber who recently trimmed Hunter Pence’s curls. “I don’t get haircuts very often,” Lincecum said. “It’s my third one in two years.”

The pitcher said he was inspired by British musician Matthew Healy of the rock band The 1975.

errant flynn, Saturday, 18 April 2015 05:38 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This song sound to me very post-the 1975:

https://youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ediiYvgEmaM

Nourry, Monday, 4 May 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link

LMAO wow yeah hope they got co writing credit on that

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 4 May 2015 16:59 (eight years ago) link

this is good, they should make more songs like this

J0rdan S., Monday, 4 May 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link

i like the other stuff too (don't stop and kiss me kiss me are my favs - i'm gonna see them live tonight) but this Is by far their best song. It would be awesome if they did more songs like this one (it's a bside from 'she Looks so perfect' single )but i doubt that will happen.
this was written by two of them with all time low's alex gaskarth.

Nourry, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

Latest news on the album: they're off to LA early next month for four months to record it. Lots of stuff demoed, but at this stage the shape of the album is yet to be determined. Talk of combining big major chord progressions with despairing lyrics. Healy currently obsessed with trap and Young Thug in particular, though that doesn't seem likely to make itself felt in the record.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Sunday, 17 May 2015 05:43 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

We didn't even get to say goodbye.

Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Sunday, 31 May 2015 23:44 (eight years ago) link

whoa what the hell

Good riddance.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 June 2015 00:06 (eight years ago) link

Honestly hope it frees the couple of members who worked on The Japanese House to do more things of that ilk.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 June 2015 00:17 (eight years ago) link

Are they splitting up or just being really dramatic about a second album image and sound change?

Greer, Monday, 1 June 2015 00:22 (eight years ago) link

think it's the latter

http://i.imgur.com/qff8tTA.png

I will reluctantly give them a thumbs up if they come back named The 1976.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 June 2015 00:29 (eight years ago) link

you shush

tweet has already been deleted but so has matt's twitter acct?

;_; i hope its not true

just japes right boyz birovva larff eh pleeez

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 June 2015 00:39 (eight years ago) link

i know they'd been together for about 10 years before the album but is the project mostly driven by healy or are the other members essential?

regardless my inclination is that this is just to drum up publicity for new material

bae sremmurd (monotony), Monday, 1 June 2015 02:01 (eight years ago) link

iirc the main composers are healy and the drummer whose name i can never remember

:(

Spottie, Monday, 1 June 2015 03:29 (eight years ago) link

Second album's been demoed. Recording starts this week. This is all a big tease.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Monday, 1 June 2015 07:53 (eight years ago) link

http://the1975.com/

groovypanda, Monday, 1 June 2015 08:23 (eight years ago) link

:D !!!

i thought maybe this was some cool revolutionary punk band but i listened to them and nope they're your standard industry dreck

example (crüt), Monday, 1 June 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link

yes but they're our dreck

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 June 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link

i thought maybe this was some cool revolutionary punk band

Ew.

Greer, Monday, 1 June 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

nos they're pink, which i guess Is a good sign. http://the1975.com/

Nourry, Monday, 1 June 2015 23:52 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

sometimes i get so excited that the chorus of "so far it's alright" is an interpolation of a sample of laura nyro

one month passes...

i'm putting this here bc it is magical & gives me 'robbers' vibes & i wanna be buried in this song when it inevitably kills me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oNQtzdvqU0

(see also the other matt wallace-produced trax on this v solid album, esp. 'dark side' which is a 'girls' clone)

uberweiss, Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:21 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

You say that like it's a good thing.

Turrican, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link

oh man

J0rdan S., Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link

whole pink/purple motif for this album is encouraging

J0rdan S., Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link

the album is called i like it when you sleep, for you are so beautiful yet so unaware of it

which

lol

17 trax

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

out in february

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link

hahaha man they came back mackling so hard this is great

J0rdan S., Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link

if that is truly the name of the album then my compunctions about vocally loathing them might somehow vanish

twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

for a band described as 'impossibly now' on all the posters i'm quite amused to notice that their 'sex' ep ends with a bonus track after a long silence

twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

I've heard eight tracks from it. Only one of them sounded like the first album; that was the least good. The rest were terrific, better than I'd dared hope for. One didn't have the first verse recorded yet, so young Matthew sang along to the backing track for me. Been waiting for Love Me to get played so I could say how fantastic it is: sounds like the band Duran Duran said they were going to be.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

Rio is one of my favourite albums

I shall wait.

twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link

if that is truly the name of the album then my compunctions about vocally loathing them might somehow vanish

it's really the name of the album

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

Yes, it really is.

Rest of what I've heard doesn't sound like that.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link

My initial reference point upon hearing "Love Me" is Steam by Peter Gabriel.

MarkoP, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link

Yes, that's certainly not unreasonable!

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link

I like it when you sleep they don't make music, for you they are so beautiful dreadful yet so unaware of it.

Seriously though, that album title reaches new levels of awfulness, sounds like the kind of crapola one would find in a sulky teenagers diary, the kind of dreck that reaches for something poetic but ends actually ends up being unintentionally creepy and ugh.

Turrican, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link

It's like a more awkward sounding version of that OneDirection song.

MarkoP, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link

lol turrican

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

i was hoping for an album of "me"s but maybe lp3 will be their hats

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

xpost to Turrican They're fantastically pretentious, but that's what makes them so terrific. They could be grimly competent hitmakers, because they've got the melodic skills for it. But instead they're this bizarre art-rock-for-teenage-girls thing. Healey is by a mile my favourite interviewee (rivalled possibly by Billy Gibbons), because the stuff just spills out of him – the strangest, most personal stuff (the other week, I spoke to him for two and a half hours, while he got absolutely baked, and I felt I had to remind him that he couldn't retract anything he'd said if he felt he'd let his mouth run away with him) – and that's all in the songs, too. I can completely get not liking them, but not liking them because of their gauche desire to be intellectual seems the least of the reasons.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

matt healey easily also my best interview ever

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link

hahahaha that album title. already record of the year without even hearing the songs.

Spottie, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

Haha it really does sound like "Steam"!

Tim F, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link

not really what I'd hoped they'd do (was also hoping for their Hats) but this sound does seem to work for them - his voice is a better fit for it

the album title's so ridiculous but I probably wouldn't have expected anything less from them

ufo, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link

ugh this song is so good

I would expect that Matt Healey knows what he's doing in interviews. Given who his parents are, I would be completely surprised if he hadn't had some sort of advice or media training. I'm sure Matt Healey knows exactly what he's doing.

Turrican, Friday, 9 October 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link

no i mean he's just really smart and has a lot of interesting things to say

i mean my interview with him was a 40 minute tangent on prince which doesn't seem to me a product of media training

Indeed, but I guess if you've learned the rules from media training, then you know how to break 'em. I totally believe he knows exactly what he's doing when he enters into an interview situation - I honestly don't think, given his background, that he would just ramble without purpose even though it may seem like he's doing exactly that.

Turrican, Friday, 9 October 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link

In other words, I can't help but feel that every single thing about this band is calculated.

Turrican, Friday, 9 October 2015 16:39 (eight years ago) link

oh no a calculated band

they were a band for ten years before they put anything out as the 1975 so i also think that contributed to that sense of calculation, i mean lol they wanted their eps and albums to resemble self-contained movies.

but show me a band that is not somewhat calculated in their approach and i'll show you etc.

if she floats in water, she must be a witch.

Tim F, Friday, 9 October 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

Well, you might think that, Turrican, but I've done around five hours worth of interviews with him now, and spent around twice that in non-media situations. So I know him better than most journalists, but nowhere near as well as an actual friend would. And there is very little difference between the two people. The interviews sometimes have recurring lines – whose interviews don't – but I don't get any sense of calculation from him. I get a desire to be honest, which has the band's manager petrified a lot of the time.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Friday, 9 October 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

Given his background, I wouldn't be surprised if he's spent his entire life being a genuine and nice person as a Machiavellian lifelong calculated bid for fame and fortune. Wake up sheeple.

Tim F, Friday, 9 October 2015 22:29 (eight years ago) link

I think I like this new song.

Greer, Sunday, 11 October 2015 05:00 (eight years ago) link

Indeed, but I guess if you've learned the rules from media training, then you know how to break 'em.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tuAzsKGELpo/TrLSMikT6nI/AAAAAAAADZ8/H3DTLuBOyRE/s1600/JFK5.jpg

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 11 October 2015 08:55 (eight years ago) link

lol the dark arts learned at the knees of Denise Welch and Tim Healy

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 October 2015 09:45 (eight years ago) link

Matthew Healy was born on 8/4/1989 and so was presumably conceived during the period his father was filming A Kind of Living

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/T4jBzUCfq1Y/hqdefault.jpg

soref, Sunday, 11 October 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link

A Kind of Living doesn't even have its own wikipedia page

soref, Sunday, 11 October 2015 14:10 (eight years ago) link

clearly the work of a master media manipulator

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 October 2015 14:11 (eight years ago) link

"My cunning media masterplan is that I will talk to you for two and a half hours about everything you ask, without once trying to steer the interview back to the thing that I am here to promote!" Damn, that's worthy of Goebbels.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Sunday, 11 October 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link

Well, his cunning media masterplan is working if it's leading to journalists thinking they're his best mate. It's certainly delivering the arse-licking features, that's for sure. So yeah, I do 100% believe the guy knows exactly what he's doing.

Turrican, Sunday, 11 October 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link

It's the cunningly making good music so people will like his band that I find really offensive.

Tim F, Sunday, 11 October 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link

matty is my best friend how dare u

more like Turriconspiracytheory

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 October 2015 21:55 (eight years ago) link

I like the idea that making records writers like, then answering questions honestly and at length is a cunning media masterplan. As opposed to what every journalist hopes artists would do. Frankly, I'd have more respect for him if he made shit records and then refused to speak in interviews.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Monday, 12 October 2015 13:21 (eight years ago) link

tim healy's media game is so strong that he's being upstaged by a jar of pickled eggs in that screencap

Haino Corrida (NickB), Monday, 12 October 2015 13:28 (eight years ago) link

of course he knew exactly what he was doing

Haino Corrida (NickB), Monday, 12 October 2015 13:29 (eight years ago) link

It's the cunningly making good music so people will like his band that I find really offensive.

― Tim F, Sunday, October 11, 2015 8:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Their music and their image also reek of calculation to the Nth degree. It's not so much that they're "cunningly making good music", more that the music and image of the band seem so carefully constructed and cynically crafted that it's impossible to separate the music from the target marketing. In a way, they're doing exactly what Coldplay were doing on X&Y, making the type of hollow superficial music that is designed to push the buttons of a particular demographic in a superficial and unchallenging way while dressing it up and packaging it as if it's something much more than that in the hope that other demographics will be swayed by it, and I include music journalists in that. Shrewd.

"Do you like One Direction? Then you'll love our haircuts and posing!"
"Did you like Joy Division? Then you'll love our black and white photos and our serious posing! We've heard of The Blue Nile too, so please take us seriously!"
"Are you a socially awkward teenager who sulks and writes bad poetry? Then you'll love the title of our new album!"
"Does life suck? Well, let the son of two jobbing UK TV entertainers explain to you just how much life can suck! I used to be massive cokehead, y'know. Yeah. I was in a position where I could afford that shit."

I like the idea that making records writers like, then answering questions honestly and at length is a cunning media masterplan. As opposed to what every journalist hopes artists would do.

Yes, and I'm sure Mr. Healy is completely well aware of the fact that this is what every journalist hopes artists would do, and that's ultimately why he's doing it.

Turrican, Monday, 12 October 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link

These calculating bastards. Thanks for saving us from falling into their trap.

Do you realise that someone could make exactly the same argument about Chvrches if they felt like it? The only difference is that you like Chvrches.

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Monday, 12 October 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link

man ppl get so mad when teenage girls like a rock band

adam, Monday, 12 October 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link

yh srsly yr embarrassing yrself here turrers chum

just keep it simple - they've been given insider leg-ups all the way, their banal as fuck bourgie wilmslow upbringing has birthed wide-eyed teensy pop-rock with insane production values owing to their enviable connections. like it or not they are uk pop royalty now, and ilx is a bastion of pop monarchism, go figure

twunty fifteen (imago), Monday, 12 October 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

Yup, that too, although I refuse to be (and am in no way) embarrassed about my dislike of this band.

man ppl get so mad when teenage girls like a rock band

― adam, Monday, October 12, 2015 2:59 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Your words, not mine. Gender has nothing to do with it.

Turrican, Monday, 12 October 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link

"Do you like tiresome back and forths about authenticity in music? Then you'll love this ILM thread!"

Greer, Monday, 12 October 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

What connections and insider leg-ups have they benefitted from? I don't know enough about The 1975's rise but it doesn't seem like Healy's parents would have much sway in the music industry.

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Monday, 12 October 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

the band did have a 6 month residency on Loose Women tbf

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 October 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link

SKOA Shey: So, let's start simple, what made you guys want to start out as a band, you all started recording together quite young didn't you?

Matt Healy: Yeah, well me personally, my Dad's friends were in quite big bands, my Dad used to knock about with Dire Straights and things like that in the 80's. So I knew a lot of that crowd when I was a kid, so I suppose that was the first thing that I wanted to do, we just started playing in punk bands when we were 13/14.

twunty fifteen (imago), Monday, 12 October 2015 16:51 (eight years ago) link

It is to his credit that he does not hide the nepotism, I guess

twunty fifteen (imago), Monday, 12 October 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link

so mark knopfler twanged a few strings for him

Haino Corrida (NickB), Monday, 12 October 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link

tbf my dad lent Squeeze his gear once

twunty fifteen (imago), Monday, 12 October 2015 16:59 (eight years ago) link

also had crucial early exposure in the Macclesfield Express

http://www.macclesfield-express.co.uk/news/local-news/auf-weidersehen-hello-pop-idol-2543673

strictly dream-bait fit for moon-gazing (soref), Monday, 12 October 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link

His renditions of The La's 'There She Goes' and the Oasis classic 'Don't Look Back in Anger' had the crowds heaving in the school's main hall.

strictly dream-bait fit for moon-gazing (soref), Monday, 12 October 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link

I read

"enviable connections"

and I read

"son of two jobbing UK TV entertainers"

(emphasis mine) (wins), Monday, 12 October 2015 17:20 (eight years ago) link

I thinkthose people were arguing the same point

(emphasis mine) (wins), Monday, 12 October 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

Stretching the definition of nepotism there.

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Monday, 12 October 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link

Given that they'd been together in one form or another for years before getting a deal, the nepotism didn't work all that well.

And, yes, they have an image. I thought pretty much all bands did. Has that become a bad thing now?

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Monday, 12 October 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link

By the way, Turrican, could you tell us the truth about what happened on 9/11?

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Monday, 12 October 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link

http://www.macclesfield-express.co.uk/news/local-news/auf-weidersehen-hello-pop-idol-2543673

― strictly dream-bait fit for moon-gazing (soref), Monday, 12 October 2015 18:14 Bookmark

jpeg should be album cover

r|t|c, Monday, 12 October 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link

the nine eleven-teen seventy five

Haino Corrida (NickB), Monday, 12 October 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link

it's about ethics in music journalism, duh

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 October 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link

i like how he's holding a proper power chord for the pose, must have hurt his fingers a bit

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 October 2015 18:21 (eight years ago) link

afaict they had great, extremely insistent pr around the time the sex ep came out, that was probably a factor

they'd been together in one form or another for years before getting a deal

Well, it's apparent they were biding their time until they'd got their calculators out and perfected the optimum formula for their name, music, image, presentation, interview technique etc. I'm sure they were shrewd enough to realise that they'd only really have one shot once they got to a certain level, because christ did people like to remind Viva Brother that they used to be Kill The Arcade, so they took their time calculating and preparing everything to give the impression that they'd arrived fully formed. Very shrewd move to totally think things through like that.

Turrican, Monday, 12 October 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

the 1975 is a terrible band name

it is, yet somehow we're past it now. the usual reference point for this phenomenon being "the beatles" obv

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 October 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

in the 90s i had a theory that the worse the title of the techno record, the better the music was

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 October 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link

that theory worked for stuff like sweet exorcist's clonk's coming

xelab, Monday, 12 October 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link

they used to call themselves the slow down which is actually worse

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 October 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link

if they were any good at naming things I'd be a lot more charitable

the tracklist for their first album is some proper nails down chalkboard shit for me

twunty fifteen (imago), Monday, 12 October 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link

gonna go ahead and predict the tracklist for album 2

Great
Relationships
Love Me
Not Yours
With You
Harmony
Y.O.U.T.H.
The Bible
Maximum
Yours
Party Feel
Now So Madly

twunty fifteen (imago), Monday, 12 October 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

I just heard these guys a few months ago, but I really dig their videos and sound. Looking forward to their new record.

JacobSanders, Monday, 12 October 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link

very shrewd move to totally think things through like that

(emphasis mine) (wins), Monday, 12 October 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

they used to call themselves the slow down which is actually worse

also drivelikeido

oh here's a youtube channel of all their pre 1975 recordings lolll http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB0r7wF7LdTONmWL5ljVW2Q

oversight from tracklist: Love You

twunty fifteen (imago), Monday, 12 October 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

imago have you ever listened to "haunt // bed"

Tim F, Monday, 12 October 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

Should have called it Shrewd Moves

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Monday, 12 October 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link

Lyrics to this are truly ridic.

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link

the 1975 is a superlatively dope name for a band that sounds like 80's music imo

james brooks, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 00:26 (eight years ago) link

I think it's very important this band has a "The" in their name.

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

imago have you ever listened to "haunt // bed"

― Tim F, Monday, October 12, 2015 8:50 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

o hey they can do mbv-inflected balearic vibez q well, reminds me of Strategy a bit (were u a fan? surely)

twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 15 October 2015 08:23 (eight years ago) link

haha shit, they're not only still around but they had an album out this year

twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 15 October 2015 08:27 (eight years ago) link

Of Strategy I only know (but love) 'Future Rock'. I vaguely recall they went quite minimal ambient after that?

The reason I asked re "Haunt // Bed" is that, for me at least (and maybe others in this thread) that kind of thing was a big part of the initial attraction of this band, rather than they looked like they might become "pop royalty" or whatever. And there's a lot of material on their EPs in this general vein - "Facedown", "Intro/Set 3", "Undo", "Anobrain", "Fallingforyou". They even did this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im87CVVb46M

Tim F, Thursday, 15 October 2015 12:01 (eight years ago) link

This sounds alot like the Sound and Vision version of Bowie's "Fame", doesn't it?

cpl593H, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 03:01 (eight years ago) link

You mean Fame 90?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp-qDhR2shQ

Then yes, yes it does.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 04:10 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, that's the one. I couldn't remember the year.

cpl593H, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 09:39 (eight years ago) link

There's a lot of Notorious/Big Thing-era Duran Duran in this too.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link

What an amazing piece of filmmaking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ5bZuUlftI

cpl593H, Thursday, 29 October 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

sloppy rig imo, put a jacket on

carly bae jepsen (monotony), Thursday, 29 October 2015 23:31 (eight years ago) link

also lol @ the Charli XCX and Rita Ora cardboard cut outs

carly bae jepsen (monotony), Thursday, 29 October 2015 23:31 (eight years ago) link

I bet Rita Ora is horrified to be included.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 29 October 2015 23:53 (eight years ago) link

I almost died when i saw him kissing the harry styles cardboard cut out.

Nourry, Friday, 30 October 2015 06:19 (eight years ago) link

this video is my sexuality

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link

Did I die? Am I in heaven? omg

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link

just a teeeny bit of michael hutchence realness too

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link

maybe it's the shirtless flailing but this song has started to make me think of an alternate-universe bubblegum Jane's Addiction

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link

Is there an alternate universe where this Sideshow Bob-fronted atrocity doesn't exist? I'd be down on my knees praying for one, if this wasn't enough proof that there is no God.

Turrican, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link

You've got to let it go, Turrican. It's time.

I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 18:21 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, Hutchence totally came to my mind when I saw the video.

cpl593H, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

He always reminded my of some long lost white Wayans

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 00:36 (eight years ago) link

i'm of course watching live videos of the new songs. "change of heart" sounds like their "say hello wave goodbye." "she's american" is obv "settle down" part 2 but i don't mind that at all

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link

and "the sound" is like their aesthetic applied to disco, and is the most exciting of the three

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link

anyone who wants to spoil themselves:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ-YVJ9icDI

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link

"she's american" is obv "settle down" part 2

i'm crying already

uberweiss, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link

the last minute of "change of heart" my heart is bursting open & i'm in agony

uberweiss, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link

YES.

Though LOL at "you used to have a race straight out a magazine" and "I never found love in the city".

Tim F, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link

They... Can't seriously propose to pass "She's American" off as a new song can they?

Tim F, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link

lol it's so "settle down"

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

i never found love in the city
i just sat in self-pity and cried in the car
i just had a change of heart

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

"change of heart"'s lyrics are all crazy good (when you were coming across as clever / and you lit the wrong end of a cigarette)

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link

this is the one

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link

lol look @ me just watching shitty live videos of new songs

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 21:58 (eight years ago) link

their "say hello wave goodbye."

smh at you comparing this band to the greats here.

Turrican, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link

get out turrican

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

You've got to let it go, Turrican. It's time.

― I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Tuesday, November 3, 2015 11:21 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link

u would totally love this band with a different singer prob

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:04 (eight years ago) link

like we would love this thread with a diff turrican

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link

Hello!

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

lol

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link

"somebody else" is prob the best fusion of the ep and lp 1975 yet?

*makes extreme pronouncement about v poor quality youtube video*

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link

imaglol

I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link

I'm in fact open to being cool with these guys, esp after that ep track Tim F posted

more stuff like "we represent the declining standards we've come to accept" pls

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link

Listen to this as well Imago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfyOrAjq4YU

Tim F, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link

really wish we were getting a collection of eps around this record but oh well

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link

^^^^ Yeah I bet there's some amazing stuff that simply won't see the light of day as a result.

OTOH, OMG at "Somebody Else".

Tim F, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

lol i'm already wearing this album out

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 22:46 (eight years ago) link

yeah that was pretty cool again, they're not a one-trick band at all - and whatever they do, they do with exceptional sonic boldness, which is nice & suits them

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 23:38 (eight years ago) link

wow all those new songs sound great

ufo, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 01:20 (eight years ago) link

The Sound is apparently the next single and deservedly

ufo, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 01:24 (eight years ago) link

"she's american" sounds like every song off the first album boiled down to one track but it also sounds lighter than air i'm very down

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 11 November 2015 01:52 (eight years ago) link

i already deeply love this song

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 11 November 2015 02:02 (eight years ago) link

[Chorus]
And she likes to kiss but just don't eat
It was so intense, yeah, she's American
And she says I gotta fix my teeth
Man she's so American, she's American
And she likes to kiss but just don't eat
Socially elegant, she's American
And she says I gotta fix my teeth
Man she's so American

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 11 November 2015 02:06 (eight years ago) link

head-shaking lol

thwomp (thomp), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 02:55 (eight years ago) link

i wonder if that's about taylor swift

art baengels (monotony), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link

Yeah the moment I saw the name of that song I thought the same thing.

cpl593H, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 13:39 (eight years ago) link

repeating that face from a magazine motif from "she way out" i see

art baengels (monotony), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link

from "robbers"! + additional references to "the city" and "sex"

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 22:48 (eight years ago) link

magazine motif repetition already felt lazy by "she way out", at least it seems deliberate here.

In the live performance the lyric that jumped out at me was "You said I'm full of diseases / your eyes were full of regret".

Because Matt's lyrics are such a mash of dialogue it's often hard to know who's saying what about whom, though.

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link

and then you took a picture of your salad and put it on the internet

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 22:56 (eight years ago) link

Got 3500 words with the boy Healy, talking about the new album, and drugs, and his "breakdown" and lots of other things in the paper.
My two favourite songs from the new album aren't being played live: Paris is part Only You, part Every Breath You Take, part self loathing; If I Believe You is a big deep soul ballad about atheism, but done with electronics instead of horns.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Thursday, 12 November 2015 13:14 (eight years ago) link

Sorry: I should have said piece is published on Sunday. 3500 online 2200 in print.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Thursday, 12 November 2015 13:15 (eight years ago) link

Odd thing: in the piece I said Healy's lyrics reminded in a peculiar way of Craig Finn. Who also references back to earlier songs all the time. I wrote that before seeing the Change of Heart lyrics.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Thursday, 12 November 2015 13:17 (eight years ago) link

ok "the sound" is hilarious

http://i66.tinypic.com/2l94bo2.png

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 13 November 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

great writeup!

Healy should have posters made emblazoned with "LOL @ MID-20's"

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 15 November 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

lol i love matty. i think he's fiercely if imprecisely intelligent, guy has way too many ideas spilling from his head. but he is also very much 25 (iirc?). great interview

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Sunday, 15 November 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link

i couldn't be more thrilled to discover one of the new songs is called "ugh"

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Sunday, 15 November 2015 16:28 (eight years ago) link

lol honestly that piece makes him sound like an utter moron

art baengels (monotony), Monday, 16 November 2015 10:25 (eight years ago) link

ithappens i was looking at your other interview with him (linked in the new one) and i'm really curious whether the slip here is his, can you confirm:

Until late last year he was still living at home. Then, as he puts it, "my band took off, my family fell apart. My parents got divorced. It's kinda good – no good marriage ever ended in divorce. If two people had a really good thing going on and they had to get divorced, that would be really sad. But that's never happened once. That's fine. That was a long time coming. December of last year I went on tour and they sold that house. I went home for two days to move out of my house, and I wrote and recorded Is There Somebody Who Can Watch Me?, the last song on the album, about that moment.

thwomp (thomp), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 02:51 (eight years ago) link

http://i68.tinypic.com/2ntzpsj.jpg

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 30 November 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

http://i67.tinypic.com/28aoqrn.jpg

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 30 November 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/truman_black/status/662251447199899648

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 November 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

ugh!

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 30 November 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

xpost … Sorry, just noticed that. It would have been taken from the transcription. But I'd have to listen to the tape to check whether I transcribed correctly. So I can't answer your question …

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 12:14 (eight years ago) link

oh man see them live on this tour

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 4 December 2015 03:39 (eight years ago) link

the stage setup is nuts

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 4 December 2015 03:42 (eight years ago) link

whens this album coming

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 4 December 2015 06:21 (eight years ago) link

26 February

ufo, Friday, 4 December 2015 06:47 (eight years ago) link

Got a full stream of the record this week (I'd previously heard 90% of it, but in two different chunks, weeks apart). The highpoints are pretty fucking great.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Friday, 4 December 2015 13:28 (eight years ago) link

Been listening to those shitty versions of "Somebody Else" pretty much incessantly the last few days.

cpl593H, Friday, 4 December 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link

get someone you love! get someone you need! fuck that get money!

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 4 December 2015 13:48 (eight years ago) link

YOU GUYS

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link

jam

Spottie, Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

such a jam jesus christ

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link

i wasn't that high on "love me" but damn this is a fuckin banger

J0rdan S., Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link

"when i said i liked it better without my money i lied" lol

J0rdan S., Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

:D

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link

this is dope (i prefer 'love me' tho)

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

Wow, the song is titled like they anticipated my reaction to it, so I suppose it has that going for it.

Turrican, Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

You've got to let it go, Turrican. It's time.
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Spottie, Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link

you're not giving it up again

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

"hey boy, stop pacing around the room using other people's faces as a mirror for you"
matty. for christ's sake, i can't even.

Nourry, Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link

unable to listen to anything but this

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 December 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

oh my days

uberweiss, Thursday, 10 December 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link

This song is one extended fabulous scritti shake

Tim F, Thursday, 10 December 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link

the songwriting doesn't really grab me on this one but I love the production

ufo, Friday, 11 December 2015 05:57 (eight years ago) link

oh man 'ugh' is brilliant

maura, Monday, 14 December 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link

cannot even deal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXaU0QzByIM

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link

Great track, love the static and lights in the video, but part of me is all like: stop flaying around and put a shirt on!

MikoMcha, Friday, 18 December 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link

Between these last two videos, I can't help but wonder if Matty is not totally heterosexual or if the vaguely 80s new wave pink and neon aesthetics are throwing me off.

Greer, Friday, 18 December 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link

she said "i've got a problem with your shoes and your tunes but i might move in"
and "i thought that you were straight, now i'm wonderin'"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

lol he's a terrible dancer

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 December 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

she said "i've got a problem with your shoes and your tunes but i might move in"
and "i thought that you were straight, now i'm wonderin'"

― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, December 18, 2015 10:43 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Are these lyrics? Because I don't actually digest what Matty says half the time anyway.

Greer, Friday, 18 December 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link

yeah they're for "the sound" which i posted upthread

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link

god the "perfect way" synth stab at the end of "ugh"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 18 December 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

Once I heard "ugh" in high quality I was totally sold. Feel like they are getting ...if not better, more defined

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:27 (eight years ago) link

more beautiful

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:28 (eight years ago) link

this is so awesomely compressed and stop-start - both the music and the singing. I feel like everything about the arrangement and production is perfect for an ode to cocaine.

Tim F, Saturday, 19 December 2015 05:49 (eight years ago) link

i'm gonna ruin this song for myself but it hasn't stopped being totally fascinating

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 December 2015 05:57 (eight years ago) link

Yep. I've listened 7 times today.

Tim F, Saturday, 19 December 2015 06:00 (eight years ago) link

They sound so tight on this, seems like it would be hard to pull off live.

Spottie, Saturday, 19 December 2015 06:46 (eight years ago) link

they have such great drums on every track

Spottie, Saturday, 19 December 2015 06:46 (eight years ago) link

I walked home from a party last night and had this song on a loop for ~20 minutes

art baengels (monotony), Sunday, 20 December 2015 00:16 (eight years ago) link

They were on our local station which does this thing "Theft of the Dial" where an artist sits in and gets to pick the songs for an hour http://www.thecurrent.org/feature/2015/12/18/theft-of-the-dial-the-1975

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 20 December 2015 01:21 (eight years ago) link

xpost My impression is he's very much heterosexual. He's obsessed with women.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Sunday, 20 December 2015 12:32 (eight years ago) link

is "ugh" the best 1975 song

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link

Ugh has really grown on me but I think Change of Heart is my favourite from the new songs.

All the new songs are great, I'm sort of worried about the length but the new album seems like it's going to be so much better than the debut.

ufo, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

there's something of the accelerated hyper-precise 80's worship gone a little bit crazy about 'ugh' that was missing from the debut - encouraging

probably.tasteful.forever (imago), Thursday, 24 December 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link

I feel like everything about the arrangement and production is perfect for an ode to cocaine.

― Tim F, Saturday, 19 December 2015 05:49 Bookmark

ya, precisely otm

the bridge is just so great, the sense of flooding bloodstream relief from that wonderful rush of out-of-body soundz snapping back to "oh, the kick won't last for long... " fleeting clarity to "...but the song only last three minutes" immediate smartarse meta intertwining and then the scritti-est seductive angelic croon for "so won't u callllll it up for me" (ur inner reply follows on beat - it what matty?)

mostly the whole track is a fairground ride/tide matty bobs in and out of until they reach consonant duet with "i'm not giving it up!" exchanging with synth siren alarm stab for the finale

r|t|c, Thursday, 24 December 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

they're playing columbus, oh on 5/22 and madison wisconsin on 5/24 with nothing currently announced for 5/23

chicago is about halfway between the two cities and they have no chicago dates announced (admittedly so is indianapolis and there are no indy dates either)

there is a huge gap in their schedule in july that coincides with lollapalooza (which has a notorious radius clause)

gr8080, Thursday, 7 January 2016 15:51 (eight years ago) link

I'm glad I wrote my TSJ blurb before reading this thread. Soon as I heard the synth stab at the end of "Ugh" I thought "Perfect Way."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 January 2016 15:54 (eight years ago) link

when is the TSJ post for UGH! going up?

gr8080, Thursday, 7 January 2016 16:18 (eight years ago) link

Tuesday.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 January 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link

excited!/apprehensive

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 January 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link

^^ title of next single

tpp, Thursday, 7 January 2016 17:01 (eight years ago) link

excited!/apprehensive

― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson)

it'll make the Brad go crazy!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 January 2016 17:02 (eight years ago) link

btw "the sound" is premiering next thursday i think

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 January 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link

oh hi Brad and gr8080: http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=19503

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 02:54 (eight years ago) link

i wanted to give "UGH!" a [9] but couldn't find the right words :(

j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 06:43 (eight years ago) link

the score is better than I expected anyway. great blurbs too

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 06:49 (eight years ago) link

shit music

hunangarage, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 07:26 (eight years ago) link

def my fav single of theirs so far

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 07:44 (eight years ago) link

oh BABY won't u come again

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03fh4fl

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:48 (eight years ago) link

see, that one I couldn't even finish.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:54 (eight years ago) link

it's not about reciprocation it's just all about ME

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link

i recommend getting to the solo

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:56 (eight years ago) link

The Sound is kinda amazing.

Greer, Thursday, 14 January 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link

sounds a little generic coming off "ugh!" but it really builds

also it sounds thin as a radio rip but i bet the studio version will be better

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:27 (eight years ago) link

yeah it sounds like there's a lot of details that don't come through fully in this rip, but this is probably their best single yet. I love all the production on the new tracks so much, it's all much more detailed and polished than the debut.

managed to get a ticket to see them in two days, very excited

ufo, Friday, 15 January 2016 03:46 (eight years ago) link

still agog at the Walk The Moon tangent in this thread lol

some dude, Friday, 15 January 2016 03:50 (eight years ago) link

xp yeah i ended up electing not to go to this tour as when the tickets went on sale there was no new music and i did see them in jan '15. really regret that now!

art baengels (monotony), Friday, 15 January 2016 04:04 (eight years ago) link

I'm not mad about The Sound. But, seriously, wait till you hear The Ballad of Me and Brain, If I Believe You, Paris … Be interesting to see what you all make of She Lays Down, which is a one-take acoustic guitar ballad, that sounds not unlike Big Star. When I first heard it, Matthew was planning to gussy it up, add an extra verse, rerecord it, but everyone in the room – manager, producer, publicist, me – was saying JUST LEAVE IT! DON'T TOUCH IT! It's beautiful. Sorry for being an in-the-know wanker, but I've known these songs now for months and been unable to talk about them to anyone …

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Friday, 15 January 2016 09:03 (eight years ago) link

matt healy has this great ability to sum up my life in three minutes songs. i can't deal with it.

and the solo is just <3

Nourry, Friday, 15 January 2016 11:35 (eight years ago) link

the studio version is on spotify ... the way that this is kinda like hyperspeed house kinda reminds me of like a dj mustard beat

J0rdan S., Friday, 15 January 2016 16:18 (eight years ago) link

i love the lyrics so much

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 15 January 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link

i thought that you were straight, now i'm wonderin'

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 15 January 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link

The guitar solo is so "Digital Love", I love it.

Tim F, Friday, 15 January 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link

yeah it all feels pretty daft punk, which is not the vibe i got from the live videos. imo it also sounds like "call me maybe"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 15 January 2016 20:09 (eight years ago) link

basically it was built for me to obsess over

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 15 January 2016 20:09 (eight years ago) link

The guitar solo kept reminding me of a cross between the one from Digital Love and the guitar solo from Andrew Gold's Lonely Boy.

MarkoP, Friday, 15 January 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link

really "the sound" is an 80s prom slow dance song in EDM festival form

j. winters (josh), Saturday, 16 January 2016 09:10 (eight years ago) link

idk to me it mostly sounds like passion pit with a recording budget

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 16 January 2016 14:59 (eight years ago) link

sounds ready-made for a dozen official remixes

gr8080, Saturday, 16 January 2016 23:26 (eight years ago) link

SNL on feb. 6 with larry david :-p

J0rdan S., Sunday, 24 January 2016 22:21 (eight years ago) link

early reports from ppl who have heard the promo suggest it is "moody" "mellow" and "atmospheric"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 02:18 (eight years ago) link

sounds great

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 January 2016 02:18 (eight years ago) link

agreed

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 02:29 (eight years ago) link

c'mon, dont't tease me more, I'm so anxious... there's no band nowadays that replicate the best the person that I am and my tastes. ugh

Nourry, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 03:00 (eight years ago) link

that's excellent news

seeing them live confirmed that The Sound is definitely their best song so far

ufo, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 03:29 (eight years ago) link

I'm so ready for the new album.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 07:40 (eight years ago) link

I heard "Love Me" on the radio the other day and it sounded good on the radio.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link

I suspect it will be something of an anomaly on the album. In a lot of ways it 's a gesture-song.

Tim F, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link

The world needs our album

cpl593H, Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link

agreed

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:26 (eight years ago) link

i don't know about the world, but i do need it.

Nourry, Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link

Matt hugging larry david

https://youtu.be/fTjxpoWplqs

Nourry, Friday, 5 February 2016 00:59 (eight years ago) link

omg the snl performance

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 February 2016 09:03 (eight years ago) link

i died

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 February 2016 09:29 (eight years ago) link

I liked their performance but they were definite victims of SNL sound. Could barely even hear the singing at times

thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Sunday, 7 February 2016 16:29 (eight years ago) link

im mad they didn't play "ugh"

J0rdan S., Sunday, 7 February 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link

i didnt get to watch the whole show did they only do the one song?

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 February 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link

they haven't been playing "ugh" live at all so i wasn't surprised. they played "the sound" and "love me"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 February 2016 18:50 (eight years ago) link

they said they haven't rehearsed Ugh enough yet but I expect they'll start playing it once the album comes out

ufo, Sunday, 7 February 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

also "love me" and "the sound" are way bigger hits so i wasn't exactly surprised

J0rdan S., Sunday, 7 February 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link

Lead singer annoying on SNL, and whole thing sounded a little meh, but TV sound not reliable, and I'll check the alb because of this thread (thanks, I hope)

dow, Sunday, 7 February 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link

The performance of 'the sound' is probably the best thing I've seen in my life.

Nourry, Sunday, 7 February 2016 20:26 (eight years ago) link

I think Matt could tone down on the mugging just a bit. I mean I know half of his lyrics are having a dig at himself but I think eventually it starts to undercut the emotional force of the songs. He should save it for key jokes. "You're so conceited! I said I loved you! What does it matter if I lied to you?" would be funnier if he delivered it like it wasn't funny.

Tim F, Sunday, 7 February 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link

I was also disappointed at first that they didn't do "UGH!" but it's probably better that such a perfect song isn't sullied by SNL's awful sound

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 7 February 2016 20:47 (eight years ago) link

I think Matt could tone down on the mugging just a bit. I mean I know half of his lyrics are having a dig at himself but I think eventually it starts to undercut the emotional force of the songs. He should save it for key jokes. "You're so conceited! I said I loved you! What does it matter if I lied to you?" would be funnier if he delivered it like it wasn't funny.

i sort of agree but he also reminds me of me at karaoke

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 February 2016 22:40 (eight years ago) link

he's doing a permanent super-drunk-young-mick-jagger & I'm totally ok with it

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 February 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link

studio version of "somebody else" may or may not come out this week

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 8 February 2016 14:41 (eight years ago) link

(Healy has gotten very into Connecticut-formed post-rock collective the World Is a Beautiful Place & I Am No Longer Afraid to Die recently: “They’ve got the best name ever.”)

lol of course

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link

also: Where gauzy, instrumental dream-pop made up a couple of interludes on the debut, it encompasses entire bends of the 1975’s new record.

from http://www.spin.com/featured/the-1975-new-album-interview-i-like-it-when-you-sleep-for-you-are-so-beautiful-yet-so-unaware-of-it/

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link

STAHP

Tim F, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5p2yhBj3A

gr8080, Thursday, 11 February 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link

and on that note, "somebody else" is out monday

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 February 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link

and this exists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy005VomLgo

Nourry, Thursday, 11 February 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link

yeah they kinda turned it into a d'angelo song, i like it a lot

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 February 2016 19:28 (eight years ago) link

why link to an audio rip? whyyyy? there is video of that, available internationally, with no ads. idgi!!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 11 February 2016 19:32 (eight years ago) link

there was one but then it disappeared. at least here where i am. sorry. no pun intended.

Nourry, Thursday, 11 February 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link

lol the "sorry" cover

J0rdan S., Thursday, 11 February 2016 20:00 (eight years ago) link

Haha these guys

Tim F, Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link

whewww "the sound" can like reaaaaally transform u in the right moment, the right moment being v off your face in a gay club. greatest clubbing experience since i had a breakdown to "only girl in the world" in 2010 maybe

& i like it being down at track 13 on the album, i feel like this eruption is gonna feel really earned following these "moody" "atmospheric" slow burners like the six and a half minute title track that precedes it & it's gonna be akin to "faith" on armor on ok

uberweiss, Thursday, 11 February 2016 22:44 (eight years ago) link

apparently the album ends with three v depressing songs too so it'll be a very isolated "up" moment

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 February 2016 22:45 (eight years ago) link

whewww "the sound" can like reaaaaally transform u in the right moment, the right moment being v off your face in a gay club.

I don't hold out much hope of this happening in gay clubs in Melbourne ;_;

Tim F, Thursday, 11 February 2016 23:11 (eight years ago) link

yeah can someone please take me to that moment

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 February 2016 23:12 (eight years ago) link

lq live rip of "she's american" gets me so blissed out & lightheaded, i am not sure i can cope with a studio version hitting my ears, what genius came up with the idea to just remake "settle down" with basically no amendments

uberweiss, Saturday, 13 February 2016 00:36 (eight years ago) link

Ha same. I can already tell that it will be a highlight for me. Does sound like a total rewrite of "Settle Down" but that song is probably top 5 songs of this decade for me so I'll take anything that prolongs the magic

Vinnie, Sunday, 14 February 2016 12:27 (eight years ago) link

the bridge + sax interlude in she's american really lift it above settle down imo

ufo, Sunday, 14 February 2016 12:56 (eight years ago) link

my heart just stopped

uberweiss, Monday, 15 February 2016 17:46 (eight years ago) link

after listening to "somebody else" like this band is going to fucking kill me

j. winters (josh), Monday, 15 February 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link

oh my fucking god

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link

where is it? where??? omg

Nourry, Monday, 15 February 2016 18:20 (eight years ago) link

ok, just found the link. i. can't.

Nourry, Monday, 15 February 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link

get someone you love
get someone you need
FUCK THAT GET MONEY

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2016 18:25 (eight years ago) link

I don't want your body
But I hate to think about you with somebody else

this is just too much for me to handle right now.

Nourry, Monday, 15 February 2016 18:26 (eight years ago) link

I'M SO LIGHTHEADEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

j. winters (josh), Monday, 15 February 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link

i just can't stop listening to it. fuck you matty. if you play this in july i think i will literally die in the middle of the crowd. i apologize for all this madness.

Nourry, Monday, 15 February 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link

i can't give you my soul 'cause we're never alone

uberweiss, Monday, 15 February 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link

ugh when can i listen to the unedited version minus zane lowe

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2016 22:35 (eight years ago) link

oh, tonight apparently

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2016 22:49 (eight years ago) link

this is so good and it's just the radio edit!

this album seems like it's going to be such an enormous step above their debut and it's not like the debut was bad

ufo, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 00:30 (eight years ago) link

Wow Matty is going low on that chorus - audio manipulation or his singing voice? Sounds like a different band almost, until the second verse, when it gets more first album-y. Great song!

Vinnie, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 03:25 (eight years ago) link

the lowest matty's gone range-wise is the verses of "antichrist" which is even lower than on this song. it's def manipulated here though, especially on the bridge

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 03:38 (eight years ago) link

Oh yeah, forgot "Antichrist". That's another track where they sound like a different band to me, maybe Interpol *ducks*, before Matty takes it up an octave. I guess his usual singing range is the essence of the band, for me

Vinnie, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 06:33 (eight years ago) link

His voice is pretty low for most of "Me" too.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 06:37 (eight years ago) link

help can't stop listening

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link

think when i first saw a live video i said it was a gorgeous composite of their album approach and their ep approach i.e. a pop song but submerged and blurred until it's a sustained blush. their best song yet

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link

the lyrics are also crushing for reasons i'd rather not get into

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link

this song was so obviously good from the live recording, basically im just happy they didn't fuck up the mixing or something, like it's more or less how i imagined it would sound

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link

there's a real danger in listening to the live version 1st & falling for it!

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link

^^^ this happened with me and "the sound" but "somebody else" translated perfectly

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link

if anything it sounds more absorbing

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link

"“Somebody Else,” the album’s latest pre-release single, is their attempt at chillwave"

looking forward to the criticism this record will generate in a "michael jackson popcorn gif" sorta way

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:11 (eight years ago) link

i'm reminded that i should be GETTING OVER IT

uberweiss, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link

Ahhhhh this is a reversion to type not them branching out - and I mean that in the best possible way.

It's like "fallingforyou" crowed with Eric Carmen's "Hungry Eyes".

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link

Crossed, even.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link

Also the new best song ever written

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 21:22 (eight years ago) link

"somebody else" is the only song i've listened to in the past 36 hours and i don't see an end in sight anytime soon

j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 04:30 (eight years ago) link

lmao @ this official merch

http://i.imgur.com/w8RvWwW.jpg

gr8080, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 15:10 (eight years ago) link

so uh i have this now, and i started crying at the intro lol

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link

the envy... i can't really describe it

Nourry, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:54 (eight years ago) link

recorded version of "a change of heart" completely justifies me comparing it to "say hello wave goodbye" upthread

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link

hm i wonder if this thread also features me freaking out when i got the stream of lp1

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link

aaaaah i can't wait until y'all hear "settle down" aaaaah

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, July 29, 2013 9:09 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yep

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link

if "she's american" is "settle down pt. 2" the production goes harder

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link

it's more dynamic, more of a nervous rush

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link

omg i hate you brad

j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link

lol

i might stop there bc like every element of this record is a huge surprise and i'd like y'all to be as surprised as i am

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

meanwhile this album is ruining my life

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

this is ruining my life. i can't wait.

Nourry, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link

ok one thing i know blue nile and scritti politti were thrown around as referents from the beginning of this thread but they are REALLY embodied here, "please be naked" is like a lost hats instrumental

ok that's it i'm shutting up now

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link

Braaaaaaaaaad.

Tim F, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link

you're welcome

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link

i mean i don't want to overhype this or anything but this is above and beyond the debut in every considerable way, and it properly absorbs the eps into its texture

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:27 (eight years ago) link

fucking fuck

uberweiss, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:29 (eight years ago) link

that is a dream coming true

Nourry, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link

I recall a year ago, they said something about possibly sampling D'Angelo on the album. Is there any traces of that?

MarkoP, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link

<spoiler> i mean "if i believe you" SOUNDS like d'angelo (w/ gospel choir) </spoiler>

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link

Wow.

Creames Fartpoop, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:45 (eight years ago) link

wow this is really good

maura, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:51 (eight years ago) link

^^^^^

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link

i'm losing my mind

uberweiss, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link

fucking hell

j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link

i typed all that stuff before i got to the title track, which

let me tell you this record is very special

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 20:31 (eight years ago) link

it is also very very very very very very long

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link

Braaaaaaaaaad.

― Tim F, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:23 (1 hour ago)

^^

etc, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link

just finished the album!

djlkakdkjflkj,malkjflkja;lj *sputters and dies*

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link

it's an hour long, right? i expect that is worth it

Nourry, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link

This album is going to cause mass fatalities on ILX I fear.

Tim F, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link

"she's american" is basically the only song that resembles the debut, other than the few moments i'm reminded of "menswear"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link

other than the few moments i'm reminded of "menswear"

*promptly digs own grave and lies down in it*

Tim F, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 22:39 (eight years ago) link

that's been my emotional state all day

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 22:41 (eight years ago) link

there was a party that you had to miss
because your friend kept cutting her wrists
hyperpoliticized sexual trysts
"oh i think my boyfriend is a nihilist"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 22:57 (eight years ago) link

stop, Brad. stop ;_;

Vinnie, Thursday, 18 February 2016 04:18 (eight years ago) link

:D

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 February 2016 04:32 (eight years ago) link

i mean cool if they go all gooey but i hope there some songs with big, prominent drums on this album as that was one of my favourite features of the first one (see: "the city", "talk", "heart out")

art baengels (monotony), Thursday, 18 February 2016 04:47 (eight years ago) link

it is way less of a thing on this record (in fact you've prob heard most of the songs with enormous drums) but they're there on "she's american" and "the ballad of me & my brain"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 February 2016 14:37 (eight years ago) link

Tango In The Night is a really big record for us as well, by Fleetwood Mac. That really inspired this record. Yeah, Scritti Polliti. Alexander O’Neal, funnily enough, was a big part of this record; we love that album Hearsay. Michael and Janet Jackson too.

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 19 February 2016 01:13 (eight years ago) link

ilm: the album

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 19 February 2016 01:13 (eight years ago) link

But what are his thoughts on Jute Gyte?

MarkoP, Friday, 19 February 2016 01:16 (eight years ago) link

They were playing new 1975 video on big screen displays at target today

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Friday, 19 February 2016 01:35 (eight years ago) link

Tango In The Night is a really big record for us as well, by Fleetwood Mac. That really inspired this record. Yeah, Scritti Polliti. Alexander O’Neal, funnily enough, was a big part of this record; we love that album Hearsay. Michael and Janet Jackson too.

― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, February 19, 2016 1:13 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

alright which one of you is secretly a member of The 1975

Tim F, Friday, 19 February 2016 04:41 (eight years ago) link

yeah that's like if you put alfred's brain into a robot and made it write an album

J0rdan S., Friday, 19 February 2016 05:16 (eight years ago) link

ilxbot 2016 it's aliiiiiiive

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 February 2016 05:53 (eight years ago) link

Off topic a bit, but just listened to M83's "Graveyard Girl" for the first time in probably a few years and noticed how strikingly similar the verses are to those in "Milk".

art baengels (monotony), Friday, 19 February 2016 06:27 (eight years ago) link

This is a great record and I hope it's huge.

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Friday, 19 February 2016 11:37 (eight years ago) link

so is this literally not gonna be made avail 4 streaming today bc if that's the case i'm gonna have to think of a plan b for my weekend

uberweiss, Friday, 19 February 2016 13:08 (eight years ago) link

i don't think so (meaning i haven't heard anything). monday maybe?

lol or they could be perverse and not do an early stream at all

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 19 February 2016 13:12 (eight years ago) link

if i b e l i e e e v e you

will that make it S T O P

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 19 February 2016 13:46 (eight years ago) link

the literal asphyxiation and paralysis of a select few internet music fans is on hold, at least

odysseus (imago), Friday, 19 February 2016 13:50 (eight years ago) link

lj i predict you will like this record despite yourself

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 19 February 2016 13:55 (eight years ago) link

lol I do rly want to hear it, just mildly joshing nourry and uberweiss' post-brad house style

odysseus (imago), Friday, 19 February 2016 13:58 (eight years ago) link

Really glad to see you saying that, Dorian! (I'm listening to it for the first time in a few weeks right now).

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Friday, 19 February 2016 14:17 (eight years ago) link

you were coming across as clever
then you lit the wrong end of your cigarette

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 19 February 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03kcc0d

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 22 February 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link

you were coming across as clever
then you lit the wrong end of your cigarette

― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson),

this happened to me sometime in December

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 February 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link

i'll quote on the road like a twat
and wind my way out of the city
finding a girl who is equally pretty won't be hard
i just had a change of heart

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 22 February 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link

"i'll quote on the road like a twat"

I don't know the song and i already love this lyric so much. 'Cause 'on the road'... Ugh

Nourry, Monday, 22 February 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link

A change of heart - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03kcc0d

Nourry, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 10:45 (eight years ago) link

sounds like a Frances and the Lights joint

gr8080, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:47 (eight years ago) link

Francis and the Lights

gr8080, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:47 (eight years ago) link

trying to will this album to leak

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link

just wanna talk about it with y'all already

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link

oh good it's getting better reviews than i expected http://www.spin.com/2016/02/review-the-1975-i-like-it-when-you-sleep-for-you-are-so-beautiful-yet-so-unaware-of-it/

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link

that's winston c-w tho, he's unknowningly absorbed into the ilx mindmeld

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 21:47 (eight years ago) link

also spin ran a big story with them with good access so duh

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 23 February 2016 21:54 (eight years ago) link

oh i'm aware of both of those things. still wasn't expecting this kind of reception

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 22:06 (eight years ago) link

i wouldn't get used to it

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 22:11 (eight years ago) link

lol excellent

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 22:13 (eight years ago) link

deej what happened to your poker face

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 22:15 (eight years ago) link

stereogum put a thing up which doesn't say much other than "lol they sound like a lot of different things, but it all kind of works"

art baengels (monotony), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 22:16 (eight years ago) link

stereogum seem really enthusiastic about it but the review spends too much time unsuccessfully trying to defend it to their readers

ufo, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 22:52 (eight years ago) link

the comments are hilarious

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 22:59 (eight years ago) link

do any of them pick on Healy's hair? That's what it matters.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:08 (eight years ago) link

lol those comments. and so many of them

just sayin, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:17 (eight years ago) link

they're really easy to hate

NSFWork work work work work (Spottie), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:18 (eight years ago) link

The 1975 or Stereogum comments?

MarkoP, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:30 (eight years ago) link

thanks for stealing my joke

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:31 (eight years ago) link

theyre in that zone that counting crows and 3rd eye blind sit for me. so much hate for them but idc and really i've no desire to go to bat for them.

NSFWork work work work work (Spottie), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:32 (eight years ago) link

makes the hate even more fun to read

NSFWork work work work work (Spottie), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:32 (eight years ago) link

counting crows!! how dare you

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:34 (eight years ago) link

Well I have often thought they would pull off a good cover of Round Here.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:40 (eight years ago) link

yessss

NSFWork work work work work (Spottie), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 23:41 (eight years ago) link

"Mr Jones" performed as if it's secretly Simply Red's "It's Only Love (Valentine Remix)".

(Simply Red are one of the few remaining useful reference points that doesn't seem to come up in respect of this band)

Tim F, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 00:18 (eight years ago) link

The way Breihan describes them at Stereogum makes me think of Franz Ferdinand (who I liked for their first 3 albums). And I liked the debut, so I'll definitely check this out.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 01:06 (eight years ago) link

this finally leaked fyi

ufo, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 05:48 (eight years ago) link

HELL YEAH

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 05:52 (eight years ago) link

WHAAAAAA

j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 05:57 (eight years ago) link

i mean it sucks that it leaked but it's only two days out and it's AMAZING

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:00 (eight years ago) link

I NEED THIS ALBUMMMMMMM

j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:03 (eight years ago) link

check reddit

oh man A Change of Heart sounds even better than the radio rip I love how detailed this is

ufo, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:09 (eight years ago) link

the link on the reddit post has been removed :'(

j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:10 (eight years ago) link

omg someone send me a link seriously i'm dying here

semioticsandmisdirection, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:11 (eight years ago) link

wow i just realized two things
a. i haven't used ilx in forever
b. i was a prick when i came up with this username

semioticsandmisdirection, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:12 (eight years ago) link

guess today was a day to test my ilx webmail

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:18 (eight years ago) link

Me2 please brad!

NSFWork work work work work (Spottie), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:19 (eight years ago) link

not that i did or anything

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:20 (eight years ago) link

omg She's American is an idealised version of the first album it's fantastic. the sax solo is different to the live version though weird. I Believe You really does sound like D'Angelo it's gorgeous

ufo, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:23 (eight years ago) link

if i'm lost
then how can i find myself

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:29 (eight years ago) link

it's likely in a sainsbury's
flirting with the girls and waiting for me
i jumped on a bus, declared my name
asked if anybody had seen my brain
"your brain wast last seen going for a run
and would you sign an autograph for my daughter lauren
'cause she adores you"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:39 (eight years ago) link

lol sorry i love so many parts of this record

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:40 (eight years ago) link

they don't really resemble each other musically but i've been thinking of it in conjunction with the paramore s/t both in terms of length and of feeling a group really expand their dimensions

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:45 (eight years ago) link

Please Be Naked through to The Ballad of Me And My Brain wow this is so expansive & there's nothing close to a dud so far.

Pressure on the debut kinda reminded me of the Paramore s/t

ufo, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:48 (eight years ago) link

very excited for everybody to hear the stretch of please be naked -> title track, world contracting into a single molecule vibes

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:53 (eight years ago) link

if i'm lost
then how can i find myself

― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, February 23, 2016 10:29 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just got to this part and i'm about to cry buckets

j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:54 (eight years ago) link

you've got two ears and a heart

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:55 (eight years ago) link

this is way more ambient than i expected tbh

Austin (semioticsandmisdirection), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:59 (eight years ago) link

she is a pain in the nose
i'm a pain in women's clothes
you're a walking overdose in a grey coat

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 07:02 (eight years ago) link

WHAT IS HAPPENING I JUST WOKE UP

BRAD!!!!

uberweiss, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 07:05 (eight years ago) link

Teh pain is killing me

Tim F, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 07:07 (eight years ago) link

lol

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 07:14 (eight years ago) link

how did they get away with making it so long! it's so generous

haha 'that was it'

ufo, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 07:15 (eight years ago) link

YEYEYYEYYAYYAYAYYA THANK U KIND SIR

I HAVE TO GO TO WORK NOW THIS IS SUCH A SICK JOKE

uberweiss, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 07:19 (eight years ago) link

Everything was sounding familiar til If I Believe You and woooow

NSFWork work work work work (Spottie), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 07:27 (eight years ago) link

"this must be my dream" is a gay anthem

j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 07:32 (eight years ago) link

^^^^^^

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 07:33 (eight years ago) link

uh send to me too please Brad, it will make up for all the pain you've put me through

Vinnie, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 07:35 (eight years ago) link

what are you talking about, i don't have it

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 07:37 (eight years ago) link

matty healy singing "if i'm lost, then how can i find myself" is my religion

j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 07:39 (eight years ago) link

can i ask for a link as well??? OMG OMG OMG

Nourry, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 09:17 (eight years ago) link

Wiiiiiiiieww "Lostmyhead". My Bloody Valentine who?

art baengels (monotony), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 12:34 (eight years ago) link

where is this? this is probably the hardest leak I've faced. so to speak.

Nourry, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 12:56 (eight years ago) link

this album has been such a rollercoaster and there are still like 5 songs to go. Like what even happened there with about 90 seconds to go in the title track?

art baengels (monotony), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 12:58 (eight years ago) link

seems like it goes a bit Sheeran for the last few tracks :|

art baengels (monotony), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 13:16 (eight years ago) link

Please tell me you haven't been sharing that link, Brad …

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 13:20 (eight years ago) link

i am not!

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 16:08 (eight years ago) link

seems like it goes a bit Sheeran for the last few tracks :|

btw I get this but they're among the two most devastating tracks on the record subject matter-wise

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 16:15 (eight years ago) link

God almighty the studio version of "She's American". Absolutely glorious. Everything I hoped for. Had to close the door to my room so my roommate wouldn't see me dancing like a maniac

Vinnie, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 16:36 (eight years ago) link

My thought process after first listen: "people are being silly, there aren't that many curveballs on this...just the ambient instrumental, and the shoegaze one, and the electro-D'angelo one, and the acoustic stuff...oh, wait."

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 16:43 (eight years ago) link

If I have a criticism it's that a few more songs could stand to be trimmed down to "Ugh!" / "Ballad of Me and My Brain" length.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link

damn, just listened 'if i believe you' and i'm torn apart.

Nourry, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link

Please tell me you haven't been sharing that link, Brad …

― Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:20 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i am not!

― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:08 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

As far as I can tell, he was testing his ILX webmail and someone thanked him for doing so.

The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link

lol thanks turrican

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link

i look forward to you hating this record

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link

i have absolutely no idea how to approach this myself

i think if anything i'm expecting to like it quite a bit, which opens up the danger of being disappointed....by the 1975. weird times

odysseus (imago), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link

it's full of curveballs, i expect you'll appreciate that aspect of it

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link

i'm excited less by that and more by how intensely-realised everyone says it is

odysseus (imago), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 17:43 (eight years ago) link

yeah every style they approach is conveyed as a gorgeous mesh polygon and then arranged somehow into a coherent hour-long narrative. lol obviously i haven't really listened to anything else in the past week

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 17:53 (eight years ago) link

i look forward to you hating this record

― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, February 24, 2016 5:39 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's often easy to forget right now just how much of a joke the music and fashions of the '80s used to be considered to be. There were some exceptions: The Smiths being one, R.E.M. being another - but on the whole, the '80s was considered to be, at one point, a very naff decade. It was therefore of some delight when some of my favourite synthpop artists from the period found themselves being critically re-appreciated and being listened to, at long last, without prejudice. Finally, the unfairly maligned '80s were being reassessed and about time, people were discovering that it wasn't all bad and they were taking from the best of the decade, and they were leaving the absolute garbage, like yer Level 42's etc., to be forgotten about...

...until I inadvertently heard 'Love Me' and realised The 1975 had managed to synthesise everything that was so wretched and thoroughly shit about 1986-1987 and squeeze it into one three and a half minute long turd. Well, I guess someone had to do it. It's very much a given at this stage that I will never intentionally listen to anything by this thoroughly fucking crap band.

The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link

the absolute garbage, like yer Level 42's etc.

lol everytime you post in this thread it's like a whole new dimension of "wow this isn't for you at all" is opened

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 18:19 (eight years ago) link

Oh, come on! Level 42 weren't ever good! Fucking ponytail & filofax music.

The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link

So you don't think Mark King is the greatest bass player off all time?

MarkoP, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 18:26 (eight years ago) link

is it so wrong to be human after all

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 18:28 (eight years ago) link

It's often easy to forget right now just how much of a joke the music and fashions of the '80s used to be considered to be. There were some exceptions: The Smiths being one, R.E.M. being another - but on the whole, the '80s was considered to be, at one point, a very naff decade. It was therefore of some delight when some of my favourite synthpop artists from the period found themselves being critically re-appreciated and being listened to, at long last, without prejudice. Finally, the unfairly maligned '80s were being reassessed and about time, people were discovering that it wasn't all bad and they were taking from the best of the decade, and they were leaving the absolute garbage, like yer Level 42's etc., to be forgotten about...

― The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:13 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah 80s music is amazing

j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 19:40 (eight years ago) link

My god this album.

The title track should be the centrepiece track on any future 'Immer 4'.

Tim F, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 21:48 (eight years ago) link

god bless this album god bless this band god bless matty healy

j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 22:22 (eight years ago) link

ysi

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 22:31 (eight years ago) link

'if i believe you' is the most beautiful and sensual piece of music i listened since beyoncé's 'rocket'.

Nourry, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 23:20 (eight years ago) link

pretty stunning album!!

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 February 2016 23:30 (eight years ago) link

this reminds me a bit of what bloc party wanted to do with their second album except kele wasn't quite crazy enough... or not crazy enough in the right ways

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 February 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrcvttiQ_wI

"please be naked"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 23:49 (eight years ago) link

otm

Nourry, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 23:57 (eight years ago) link

yeah every style they approach is conveyed as a gorgeous mesh polygon and then arranged somehow into a coherent hour-long narrative. lol obviously i haven't really listened to anything else in the past week

― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson

you must have been fun in geometry class

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:00 (eight years ago) link

the title track is fuckin crazy

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

I sucked at geometry, my similes should convey this almost exclusively

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

Write your next review as a proof!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:04 (eight years ago) link

the title track is like an ambient interlude that morphs into minimal techno and then blooms into a janet song??

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:07 (eight years ago) link

1975 x (Level) 42 = 82950, 29th August 1950 was the birthdate of one of the 9/11 pilots, matt healy knows everything

odysseus (imago), Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:11 (eight years ago) link

there's something about you

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:14 (eight years ago) link

is it just me that thinks that when Healy mentioned 'tango in the night' to stereogum he probably was refering to 'paris'? it seems so laidback and innocent and then it's just so sad. but fascinating.

Nourry, Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:16 (eight years ago) link

Healy's mentioning Tango in the Night the apotheosis of what lots of have said in the last six years about that album as lodestar for a certain cohort.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:24 (eight years ago) link

Oh, come on! Level 42 weren't ever good! Fucking ponytail & filofax music.

― The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican)

http://nobilliards.blogspot.com/2014/08/various-artists-now-thats-what-i-call.html

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 00:26 (eight years ago) link

this reminds me a bit of what bloc party wanted to do with their second album except kele wasn't quite crazy enough... or not crazy enough in the right ways

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, February 24, 2016 6:35 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

look i love this album and the 1975 and Matty an unreasonable amount for someone in their late 20s, but Bloc Party did exactly what they wanted to do on A Weekend in the City and it was fucking excellent. these are very different beasts, songs about cocaine notwithstanding. like, I haven't absorbed this record enough to really entirely sure what the narrative is, but Weekend is an album about being the token black guy in the British indie scene, and about queerness in the midst of bros, and about Kele's attempts to discuss big political issues & personal tragedies simultaneously.

I mean. I get that they both do occasionally ham-fisted lyrics, and are 80s influenced, and are alienated from their audiences or w/e but I just don't hear it.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 February 2016 01:47 (eight years ago) link

(but to be positive, THIS ALBUM. THIS. ALBUM. the sparkle and twinkle on The Ballad of Me and My Brain)

no longer in MTL (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 February 2016 01:51 (eight years ago) link

i liked the first album a lot but man this one is really something huh

adam, Thursday, 25 February 2016 02:20 (eight years ago) link

the last minute of "change of heart"

adam, Thursday, 25 February 2016 02:21 (eight years ago) link

this is sort of like a midpoint between A Walk Across the Rooftops and Sign o' the Times

ufo, Thursday, 25 February 2016 02:39 (eight years ago) link

hahahaha yesssssssss

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 02:45 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I was thinking of Sign.

Also the midpoint of The Velvet Rope and Adore?

Tim F, Thursday, 25 February 2016 02:54 (eight years ago) link

aka it's my favorite record of all time I guess

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 02:56 (eight years ago) link

lol

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 02:57 (eight years ago) link

I so regret we can't discuss hyperboles in real time this weekend

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 02:57 (eight years ago) link

*indicates album cover* it me

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 03:01 (eight years ago) link

You guys have got me excited about an album I didn't really have any interest in a few weeks ago. All these Blue Nile, Fleetwood Mac, Prince, Duran Duran and Scritti Politti references are right up my street. I think I'm going to buy it on Friday without listening to it before, just like in the old days.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 25 February 2016 03:03 (eight years ago) link

the title track is fucking blowing my mind

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 February 2016 04:48 (eight years ago) link

you could straight up drop that 90 second bit of it in a house club

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 February 2016 04:50 (eight years ago) link

the outro of "change of heart" is so sublime

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 February 2016 04:51 (eight years ago) link

it's incredible the biggest risks on this record -- "if i believe you", the title track, even "the ballad of me and my brain" if it was longer -- are the ones they pull off flawlessly

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 February 2016 05:12 (eight years ago) link

yeah I agree w/ that. in general the "safer" bits are the least arresting (though still fine)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 25 February 2016 05:20 (eight years ago) link

you could straight up drop that 90 second bit of it in a house club

― J0rdan S., Thursday, February 25, 2016 4:50 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The shifts on this record can be quite jarring but the drop from that into full bore house-pop of "The Sound" is inspired.

One of the things those jarring stylistic transitions can obscure is that thematically the album charts a fairly straight, unbroken line of ascent/descent from cynical superficiality (songs about being obsessed with your own fame, being addicted to coke) to naive sincerity (songs about your dead grandma and your mother's post-natal depression).

Tim F, Thursday, 25 February 2016 05:21 (eight years ago) link

I do kinda wish "Nana" was somewhere in the middle of the record, maybe slotted after "Somebody Else," as a sonic palate cleanser, but that's just my inner tinkerer talking

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 25 February 2016 05:22 (eight years ago) link

THE
BALLAD
OF
ME
AND
MY
BRAIN

uberweiss, Thursday, 25 February 2016 06:34 (eight years ago) link

pitchfork's review is so lame. Brad should've written it, imo.

Nourry, Thursday, 25 February 2016 09:47 (eight years ago) link

most of the negative reviews seem pretty dismissive of the ambient bits and completely miss the point of it but oh well

ufo, Thursday, 25 February 2016 10:05 (eight years ago) link

I think it's actually quite well written even though I disagree with a lot of it; laura gets a free pass for life anyway after her evisceration of mark kozelek in the guardian last year

art baengels (monotony), Thursday, 25 February 2016 11:47 (eight years ago) link

ignoring the score, i agree with a lot in that review!

Like a lot of When you sleep, his lyrics dip perilously from inspiring to embarrassing.

totally otm but also his best trait

tpp, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:04 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I think Laura's review is really insightful on how so many of The 1975's choices become love/hate propositions, which she can capture pretty well given she is somewhat on the fence. And I think the ambient stuff (even the monumental title track) can only really be notable and loveable if you're already in the tent (I don't get where she's hearing Bon Iver though. The snatches of vocals I suppose), otherwise I can understand why the instinctive reaction would be "if I wanted stuff like this why would I come to this band in the first instance?"

Tim F, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:05 (eight years ago) link

it was snowing this morning & i took the long route to work so i could listen to this all the way thru. v good.

tpp, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:13 (eight years ago) link

i can't really understand where she hears Autre Ne Veut or Baths or Bon Iver. it's well written, but I disagree with a lot of propositions that are made, like when she says they were "basically inoffensive pop-rock pitched somewhere between Phoenix, the Strokes, and Jimmy Eat World". it's missing the point.

on other hand, now i'm completely in love with 'paris' song.

Nourry, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:34 (eight years ago) link

i don't know if i agree with those musical comparisons (jimmy eat world, certainly) but i think her point is that the hatred directed at this band was never really related to the music they were making at that time.

tpp, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:45 (eight years ago) link

but rather it has all to do with ppls ongoing obsession with authenticity. her point in the end is also extremely otm:

For Britain's biggest young guitar band to ditch laddy machismo, embrace the boy band ideal, and run on feeling rather than posturing—that feels kind of radical.

tpp, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:47 (eight years ago) link

but yeah i agree with tim that it's especially cool that she managed to express these points despite the fact she clearly hasn't sipped from the 1975 kool aid like most of us here (myself included)

tpp, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:50 (eight years ago) link

it's quite a positive review for a 6.5 from pitchfork really

ufo, Thursday, 25 February 2016 13:14 (eight years ago) link

Started listening to this this morning. Made it as far as "The Ballad of Me and My Brain." My favorite song so far is "Love Me," which sounds like INXS covering "Fame" (Bowie, not Irene Cara) with Trevor Horn producing. I like "She's American" a lot too.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 25 February 2016 13:53 (eight years ago) link

The bridge on She's American is one of my favourite moments on this

ufo, Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:04 (eight years ago) link

pitchfork's review is so lame. Brad should've written it, imo.

i would've given it five 10.0s. they made the right choice

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:44 (eight years ago) link

laura's review is great in that I can unlock it from the score and it still matches up with a lot of my ideas of what this record does well

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:45 (eight years ago) link

That Pitchfork review does echo my sentiment that PC Music really needs to get started on putting together a boy band. I mean it will likely be terrible, but it would also be interesting.

MarkoP, Thursday, 25 February 2016 16:24 (eight years ago) link

I want whatever machine they used on "Somebody Else" to make him sound exactly like Michael McDonald.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 25 February 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link

was kinda thinking he sounded a bit like alison moyet even before they turned on the mcdonaldtron

sweet of 'paris' to cover yazoo 'only you' to prove the point

r|t|c, Thursday, 25 February 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link

WHERE WOULD I BE IF I WAS MY BRAIN

uberweiss, Thursday, 25 February 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link

Disappointed the one called "Please Be Naked" has no lyrics.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 19:36 (eight years ago) link

never heard anything more beautiful than the title track

uberweiss, Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:06 (eight years ago) link

A good album whose inclusion of three instrumentals astonishes me.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:14 (eight years ago) link

they're good though

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:15 (eight years ago) link

there are three?

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:24 (eight years ago) link

anyway if anything they were the moments i knew this record was really stretching out

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link

People seem to keep missing the 30 seconds of vocals on the title track xp

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link

oh alfred what do you think of "this must be my dream"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:31 (eight years ago) link

the melody on 'a change of heart' that sounds like it's played on a kazoo or something cracks me up.

tpp, Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link

"this must be my dream" isn't one of my favs, "paris" makes up for it tho

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 February 2016 23:17 (eight years ago) link

75 minutes? this is the sex & the city 2 of albums. someone pls post their preferred edit

cozen, Thursday, 25 February 2016 23:22 (eight years ago) link

every track is essential

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 February 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link

this makes me think of 'in ghost colors'

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 26 February 2016 00:22 (eight years ago) link

The lyrics of "This Must Be My Dream" are pretty confusing but I'm assuming that the references to "I can't wait for you boy" in the chorus are sung from the perspective of the hypothesised girlfriend, not from Matt to another guy.

Tim F, Friday, 26 February 2016 00:26 (eight years ago) link

(structurally)

better than 'in ghost colors,' though

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 26 February 2016 00:39 (eight years ago) link

every track is essential

I could do without the acoustic tracks at the end (though the lyrics to "She Lays Down" are great)

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 26 February 2016 00:41 (eight years ago) link

yeah i feel that. those songs are very personal & the album is so generous up to that point that they feel warranted tho.

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 February 2016 01:32 (eight years ago) link

those two are probably the least essential tracks but I wouldn't say they're inessential with the way the album progresses as Tim had mentioned. I don't really know what else the album could end with except maybe the title track? Normally I'd agree with Simon that a track like Nana would be better somewhere earlier in the album as a palate cleanser but I don't think there's really space for it anywhere else on this.

ufo, Friday, 26 February 2016 01:48 (eight years ago) link

I love what this band has gotten away with: selling the ILM 2016 conception of good pop.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 February 2016 01:59 (eight years ago) link

"nana" is stunning imo in a very similar way to "paris" the latter burying unbelievable animosity in a kind of sweet swaying "only you" facsimile and the former embedding unbelievable grief in a very gentle setting

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 04:25 (eight years ago) link

anyway can't imagine being lukewarm on "this must be my dream," the alexander o'neal jam of the record

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 04:25 (eight years ago) link

oh re: what I said about "Paris" and "nana": not that those concepts are in any way inherently opposed

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 04:27 (eight years ago) link

anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSnAllHtG70

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 04:57 (eight years ago) link

OMG.

The second half of this.

Tim F, Friday, 26 February 2016 05:13 (eight years ago) link

"They're essentially making robotic Huey Lewis tunes."

Tim F, Friday, 26 February 2016 05:13 (eight years ago) link

"Unconvincing emo lyrics"

Tim F, Friday, 26 February 2016 05:13 (eight years ago) link

i love how the real choir on "if i believe you" rubs up against the blast of sound that in the second verse that sounds kinda like a choir but also sounds like a hole being blown open in an airplane

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 February 2016 05:22 (eight years ago) link

that song is...... incredibly good

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 February 2016 05:23 (eight years ago) link

"They're essentially making robotic Huey Lewis tunes."

taken from a real village voice headline

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 05:26 (eight years ago) link

I hope all the quotes are real.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 26 February 2016 05:27 (eight years ago) link

yeah these all seemed very specifically sourced. Nice touch when they start syncing with the piano line too.

My only criticism is that the brief bit where it switches and the band is in seats watching the audience behind the glass (thankfully not expanded on) threatens to make the whole thing a bit "DO YOU SEE!?!?!?!"

Tim F, Friday, 26 February 2016 05:28 (eight years ago) link

YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE IN THE BOXES

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 05:30 (eight years ago) link

WE ARE JUDGING YOU JUDGING US

Tim F, Friday, 26 February 2016 05:35 (eight years ago) link

Great vid, a little on the nose yeah but w/e f the haters

Spottie, Friday, 26 February 2016 05:38 (eight years ago) link

damn that is a GREAT video

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 February 2016 05:44 (eight years ago) link

This alb isnt quite as immediate as the debut for me but thats probably a good thing

Spottie, Friday, 26 February 2016 05:44 (eight years ago) link

It's much more immediate IMO!

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 26 February 2016 06:25 (eight years ago) link

I'm trying to think of examples of where acts have done this before (directly confront and flaunt the standard criticisms of the band in the video clip) - excluding obvious cases of humble-bragging.

The only ones that spring to my mind immediately are No Doubt's "Don't Speak" and then Taylor's "Blank Space", and even then the sourced criticisms weren't directly about the quality of their music (and carried a strong implicit message that "I'm/we're not really like that").

Tim F, Friday, 26 February 2016 06:35 (eight years ago) link

Agree with Spottie that it's not as immediate. I've done two listens, but so far only "She's American" and "If I Believe You" have really stuck with me (beyond the songs released before the album). I'm compelled to keep listening though, feels like there's a lot to uncover

Vinnie, Friday, 26 February 2016 08:51 (eight years ago) link

Going to pat myself on the back for the final par of my review of the first album:

What first appears to be a weakness for the 1975 might turn out to be a strength. You wouldn't call theirs the most distinctive of sounds: you can point to almost all the elements of most any song here and tell where it came from. If that suggests there's still some musical character to be formed, it also means there's space to form it: they haven't got the curse of the sui generis band, condemned always to churn out decreasingly exciting simulacrums of their original statement. For the 1975, what comes next might be even better.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Friday, 26 February 2016 10:48 (eight years ago) link

I'm trying to think of examples of where acts have done this before (directly confront and flaunt the standard criticisms of the band in the video clip) - excluding obvious cases of humble-bragging.

The only ones that spring to my mind immediately are No Doubt's "Don't Speak" and then Taylor's "Blank Space", and even then the sourced criticisms weren't directly about the quality of their music (and carried a strong implicit message that "I'm/we're not really like that").

― Tim F, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:35 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

didn't The 1975 already do that with the "Girls" video really? i can think of a lot videos like that. especially Fall Out Boy videos ("I Don't Mind" in particular). or N Sync's "It's Gonna Be Me."

still on my first listen of the album but it's pretty awesome so far.

some dude, Friday, 26 February 2016 14:23 (eight years ago) link

The sampled choir in "If I Believe You" after Healy talk-sings "I had a revelation" made me laugh out loud.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 February 2016 14:35 (eight years ago) link

I guess it would have been better if this had some late night ambient synth ballads in the vein of fallingforyou (or maybe a Saturday Night?) to close the album, instead of the stripped down acoustic ballads. It's generous enough as it is though so I'm not really complaining.

the Girls video was more reacting to their fanbase than critics I think, apparently it was inspired by their fanbase thinking they'd bowed to label pressure because they made a music video in colour.

ufo, Friday, 26 February 2016 14:48 (eight years ago) link

so apparently this isn't hitting spotify for a couple more weeks, UGH! is right...

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Friday, 26 February 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/VQQon3Z.png

gr8080, Friday, 26 February 2016 16:31 (eight years ago) link

Fucking careerists.

The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Friday, 26 February 2016 17:07 (eight years ago) link

Matty Healy picks his favorite '80s records (note: Contains music not actually released in the 1980s)

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link

"how to draw" is another lovely almost-instrumental

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:18 (eight years ago) link

my mum wants this album for mother's day <3

uberweiss, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link

it's the best album of all time btw idc

& disregarding the acoustic tracks at the end is gross & offensive to me lol. they are ripping my heart out

"i don't like it now you're dead, it's not the same when i scratch my own head"

uberweiss, Friday, 26 February 2016 20:02 (eight years ago) link

I'm a lesbian kiss
I'm an evangelist

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link

i do feel comfortable saying this is one of the best albums of the decade

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 February 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link

i posted this lyric upthread but got it wrong and it's even better than i thought:

"your brain was last seen
going for a run
and would you sign an autograph
for my daughter laura?
'cause she adores you
but i think you're shit"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link

I love it how their idea of stating that they don't care what people say about them is to make a high budget video full of negative things that people have said about them. Keep on "not giving a fuck", guys, but on the plus side I guess they've finally made a video with content that I actually agree with. No doubt there'll be a wave of actual good music coming along in a couple of years that will render this band irrelevant and knock them off their perch, and to be quite honest, I'm very much looking forward to that being the case.

The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Friday, 26 February 2016 20:31 (eight years ago) link

we were due for another one of those

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 20:34 (eight years ago) link

so apparently this isn't hitting spotify for a couple more weeks, UGH! is right...

― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Friday, February 26, 2016 10:22 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's on Tidal and Apple Music, though, so it's a good time to be crazy like me and use multiple streaming services

some dude, Friday, 26 February 2016 20:38 (eight years ago) link

he's the thread's greek chorus xp

odysseus (imago), Friday, 26 February 2016 20:43 (eight years ago) link

the sax sneaking in under the final chorus of "she's american" <3

uberweiss, Friday, 26 February 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link

Going to pat myself on the back for the final par of my review of the first album:

What first appears to be a weakness for the 1975 might turn out to be a strength. You wouldn't call theirs the most distinctive of sounds: you can point to almost all the elements of most any song here and tell where it came from. If that suggests there's still some musical character to be formed, it also means there's space to form it: they haven't got the curse of the sui generis band, condemned always to churn out decreasingly exciting simulacrums of their original statement. For the 1975, what comes next might be even better.

― Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Friday, February 26, 2016 4:48 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nice. Agreed

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 26 February 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link

also "nana" reminds me of "haunt/bed"

uberweiss, Friday, 26 February 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link

Re favorite 80s. He likes lillo thomas. Thats...of course.

bert newtown, Friday, 26 February 2016 23:12 (eight years ago) link

Surprised he identifies Speaking In Tongues as indicative of the likely sound of their third album, it would seem like a diagonally backwards step to parts of the debut.

Tim F, Friday, 26 February 2016 23:29 (eight years ago) link

actually I hear "Pull Up the Roots" on a few tracks

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 February 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link

enjoyed him busting back at miko re hats as album name

r|t|c, Saturday, 27 February 2016 00:04 (eight years ago) link

one of my fav moments on this record is when the trumpet solo on "if i believe you" like melts right into the synth going into the outro. that entire song is very dense but also sort of loose and leisurely paced.

overall it's such a detailed album

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 February 2016 04:14 (eight years ago) link

they put this filter on maty's vocals as it fades out

anyway im tripping

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 February 2016 04:20 (eight years ago) link

literally?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 February 2016 04:21 (eight years ago) link

if I needed to trip it wouldn't be to goddamn Pink Floyd, it'd be to The 1975 and Reagan speeches.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 February 2016 04:22 (eight years ago) link

if i'm lost, then how can i find myself

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 27 February 2016 04:26 (eight years ago) link

no im not literally tripping

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 February 2016 04:34 (eight years ago) link

or literally tripping either...

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 February 2016 04:34 (eight years ago) link

i think "loving someone" is the only one that doesn't really work for me

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 February 2016 05:07 (eight years ago) link

That's the one I've seen singled out in reviews, too, but I like it. It's kinda DJ Shadow-y.

A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 27 February 2016 05:16 (eight years ago) link

the sound is a jam

johnny crunch, Saturday, 27 February 2016 05:20 (eight years ago) link

"loving someone" is "so far it's alright part ii"

ie great but not as great

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 27 February 2016 05:44 (eight years ago) link

Loving Someone isn't the best on the album but I love the crystalline keys. it definitely improves on So Far (It's Alright) just by having something instead of a third verse

ufo, Saturday, 27 February 2016 06:11 (eight years ago) link

nothing on this album touches "Somebody Else" or "If I Believe You" and that's OK, but they kinda make me long for a whole album of their extended/distended torch songs

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 27 February 2016 06:21 (eight years ago) link

*nothing else

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 27 February 2016 06:21 (eight years ago) link

Had no idea "White Lines" used a sample/interpolation until checking out the "Liquid Liquid" clip in that article

Vinnie, Saturday, 27 February 2016 10:06 (eight years ago) link

"The Ballad of Me and My Brain" really is the best thing ever, perhaps implausibly.

Tim F, Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:46 (eight years ago) link

otm

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:58 (eight years ago) link

lol i love the early posts in this thread

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 February 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

I would like to thank Alfred S0t0 for seguing "This Must Be My Dream" into "Criticize."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 February 2016 00:03 (eight years ago) link

^^^^^^

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 February 2016 00:03 (eight years ago) link

"the sound" sounds like the biggest thing in the world after the title track

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 February 2016 00:04 (eight years ago) link

in that way it sort of resembles the sequencing of the eps, they way they'd bury their big singles within ambience and suggestion

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 February 2016 00:07 (eight years ago) link

Nice to see Andy Gill in the Independent deciding She Lays Down is about an addict girlfriend, rather than post natal depression. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/reviews/the-1975-i-like-it-when-you-sleep-for-you-are-so-beautiful-yet-so-unaware-of-it-contradictory-and-a6897916.html

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Sunday, 28 February 2016 11:38 (eight years ago) link

Ugh

Tim F, Sunday, 28 February 2016 12:01 (eight years ago) link

OOPS I DID IT AGAIN STARTED PLAYING

uberweiss, Monday, 29 February 2016 13:43 (eight years ago) link

i am seeing them tonight for their Radio 1 gig in Kentish Town :D

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 29 February 2016 13:44 (eight years ago) link

im so mad at myself for not instantly realizing how stunning "somebody else" is

J0rdan S., Monday, 29 February 2016 15:55 (eight years ago) link

i was in the sleepiest normiest bar & grille in a sleepy midwestern town yesterday afternoon that had a very innocuous top-40 satellite radio feed playing and "love me" came on

gr8080, Monday, 29 February 2016 16:31 (eight years ago) link

The 1975 will win the battle to rule next Friday’s sales chart, with Adele likely #2. Things may be closer on the SPS chart, but Adele will have to stay relatively flat in order to challenge.

The U.K. band’s laboriously titled, saucily un-capitalized I like it when you sleep, for you are so beautiful yet so unaware of it sits at #1 on the iTunes album chart, followed by fellow debut This Unruly Mess I’ve Made by Macklemore & Ryan Lewis. Kelly Clarkson holds the #3 spot, with Adele currently at #4. Stay tuned for updates; in the meantime, here’s how the week’s top two debuts are shaping up:

The 1975 (Dirty Hit/Interscope) 90-100k album, 95-105k SPS
Macklemore & Ryan Lewis (Macklemore) 45-55k, 50-60k

J0rdan S., Monday, 29 February 2016 16:58 (eight years ago) link

saucily un-capitalized!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 February 2016 17:01 (eight years ago) link

im so mad at myself for not instantly realizing how stunning "somebody else" is

Easily the song I've replayed the most this year, with no sign of wearing it out.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 29 February 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link

crazy how you sit through an hour of this album and then "paris" just the most disarming song

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 March 2016 02:43 (eight years ago) link

my heart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyf4pnOPo5M

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 March 2016 02:47 (eight years ago) link

Took my daughter down to the London pop-up shop on Sunday (because we were told we could come straight in). Felt guilty about queue jumping past several thousands people. And very self conscious as a middle aged man - was only there for my daughter. In consequence, I ended up letting her spend £170 of my money. Including £100 on a framed print of the Ballad of Me and My Brain photo (https://images.rapgenius.com/4526a817ad55bfdba66ec5c45bbc80d4.1000x666x1.jpg), for her room. It was billed as an edition of 1/1, so with a bit of luck that's my pension sorted.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Tuesday, 1 March 2016 10:30 (eight years ago) link

uh link above was rong
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03l3syv

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 1 March 2016 11:45 (eight years ago) link

"ugh" is kind of amaing live

i also love that the "ballad of me and my brain" image actually includes a sainsbury's lol

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 March 2016 16:04 (eight years ago) link

it is the very Sainsbury's from the song. The second window up on the far side of the street, cut in half by the corner of the Sainsbury's block, is Matthew's old flat in Shepherd's Bush.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Tuesday, 1 March 2016 16:06 (eight years ago) link

omg "if i believe you" live

ok i wasn't going to see them at barclays but now maybe i have to?

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 March 2016 16:36 (eight years ago) link

apparently there's a twitter...listening party? at 5 today? idk what that means.

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 18:18 (eight years ago) link

Any money says this will enter both US and UK album charts at No 1.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Friday, 4 March 2016 14:59 (eight years ago) link

I hope so!

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 4 March 2016 15:10 (eight years ago) link

The middle stretch from "Please Be Naked" to the title track has grown on me a lot. I don't think she gets much love here, but I hear some Imogen Heap in a few of those tracks, and they pull off her sound as well as she does. The last three tracks still don't do much for me yet though

I noticed that "The Sound" and "She's American" share the same first seven notes for the chorus! I still love both in pretty different ways

Vinnie, Friday, 4 March 2016 16:29 (eight years ago) link

seems like they're gonna get beat by adele in the US but will beat macklemore which is a nice consolation prize

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 March 2016 17:51 (eight years ago) link

people who aren't into "paris" are dead 2 me

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 4 March 2016 20:56 (eight years ago) link

sorry vinnie

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 4 March 2016 20:56 (eight years ago) link

i haven't really been listening to the two singles at the beginning or the two songs at the end that much so i consider "change of heart" and "paris" to be really nice bookends

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 March 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link

oh shit no. 1 in the u.s.

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 4 March 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link

Saw the opening night of the tour last night (going again on Monday). Don't miss this show if you have the chance to see it. I'd say it's 15 mins too long (there's a mid pace sag in the middle), but overall it is astounding. The production design is stunning. The setlist is fantastic. As Dorian, who I was with, said to me: This is a band who are doing everything right. It was quite overwhelming.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Saturday, 5 March 2016 11:21 (eight years ago) link

the setlist looks sick, i'd maybe have subbed out "so far (it's alright)" [which "loving someone" is kind of an even more amazing version of??] for "this must be my dream" [i mean or "pressure" which is still the best song of all time] but fuckkk i'm so hype

i was frantically searching for live videos of "anobrain" and then i realised OH WAIT I AM SEEING THEM ON WEDNESDAY <3 <3 <3 so maybe i shouldn't go down that rabbit hole rn

uberweiss, Saturday, 5 March 2016 15:10 (eight years ago) link

i wish they'd start playing "head.cars.bending" again (when they opened their set with it the first time i saw them in 2013 i was like "oh wow this band is special") but i have no complaints about the setlist and am considering buying tickets I can't afford for barclays

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 March 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link

thanks alfred for comparing "this must be my dream" to the system

hang a sign upon the door, it said this must be my dreeeam

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 March 2016 18:08 (eight years ago) link

I bought a physical copy in Target this morning and danced in the shorts aisle.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 March 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link

I wanted to buy this on vinyl but it's currently $40 at my local store. It's a great album and everything but that price is crazy, even when it's clear vinyl.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 5 March 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link

Giving this a shot, nice to have something the splits the difference between Phoenix and Maroon 5. Bummed that "Please Be Naked" doesn't sound at all like "The Big Ship," imo - more like one of those Phoenix instrumentals - but "Change of Heart" sure sounds like "Crazy for You."

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 March 2016 20:19 (eight years ago) link

phoenix? huh. have they been mentioned in this thread before lol

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 March 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link

I've waited many years for Phoenix to get interesting.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 March 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link

xpost Have they? I haven't read the whole thread, was just curious. Younger daughter (age 8) btw immediately asked if it was the same band that did "Sugar."

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 March 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link

oh joshpaws

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 5 March 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link

xpost oh hahaha there's actually a post somewhere upthread where someone lists every band that we've compared them to in this thread, it's a pretty staggering range

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 March 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link

That's funny. That might be why it's so much fun, something for everyone. A band like Maroon 5, I'm not sure they bring anything to mind. Maybe suicide.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 March 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link

lol slocki compared them to maroon 5 also

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 5 March 2016 23:44 (eight years ago) link

I feel like they mitigate their latent Maroon 5-ness.

Hey (Extended Mix), Sunday, 6 March 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

true heirs to maroon 5 is a worthy title imo

flopson, Sunday, 6 March 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link

I compared them to Adam & the Marooned too.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 March 2016 00:13 (eight years ago) link

If this album wins the EOY poll it's gonna break ILM like Trump and the GOP.

Tim F, Sunday, 6 March 2016 00:26 (eight years ago) link

i mean it's early but it'll almost certainly be my aoty

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 March 2016 00:39 (eight years ago) link

lol i don't think this has much hope of #1 in our EOY what with the KING album existing and a beyoncé album on the way

art baengels (monotony), Sunday, 6 March 2016 00:41 (eight years ago) link

this is easily one of the best albums i've heard in the last 5 years

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 March 2016 04:24 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I think KING could probably overtake it. Also Blackstar as well.

MarkoP, Sunday, 6 March 2016 04:29 (eight years ago) link

Or maybe it will just go to HAIM again.

MarkoP, Sunday, 6 March 2016 04:33 (eight years ago) link

I love the king album but this gets the edge over the king album to me

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 6 March 2016 05:01 (eight years ago) link

KING is Marco Rubio. Beyonce is Jeb Bush. Haim is Ted Cruz.

Tim F, Sunday, 6 March 2016 10:55 (eight years ago) link

delet this

r|t|c, Sunday, 6 March 2016 11:04 (eight years ago) link

This is a great album in the best sense. I tried cherrypicking some songs for a playlist to prune the length and that didn't work at all, it's been really thought through and you need it all for the full experience.

Leonard Pine, Sunday, 6 March 2016 13:29 (eight years ago) link

I've been persuaded, slightly against my better judgment, to go to another show in Manchester next week by their publicist.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 09:22 (eight years ago) link

#1 in Amerikay

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 11:33 (eight years ago) link

hello all -- i appeared on my wonderful colleagues crystal + megan's podcast #SWOONSTEP talking about the new album along with a couple other fabulous ladies; forgive me for all my ums, likes, and you knows: http://swoonstep.tumblr.com/post/140747913707/roundtable-the-1975s-i-like-it-when-you-sleep

j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link

it's ok josh even professionals um like and you

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link

you know*

anyway excited to listen to that later!

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link

the name of the guy who did the art for the album x_x https://www.instagram.com/davidndrake/

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 10 March 2016 08:14 (eight years ago) link

"The Sound" is top ten on the rock songs chart but still nowhere to be found in the hot 100 (U.S.).

timellison, Thursday, 10 March 2016 08:30 (eight years ago) link

it's #3 on the bubbling under chart this week

J0rdan S., Thursday, 10 March 2016 14:26 (eight years ago) link

RIGHT here we go

Laertiades (imago), Friday, 11 March 2016 12:00 (eight years ago) link

:D

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 11 March 2016 12:11 (eight years ago) link

surprisingly, this is well good yeah

Laertiades (imago), Friday, 11 March 2016 12:20 (eight years ago) link

approx. 3500x better than album 1

Laertiades (imago), Friday, 11 March 2016 12:20 (eight years ago) link

album 1 did not have an ambient mariachi interlude called 'please be naked' for one

Laertiades (imago), Friday, 11 March 2016 12:21 (eight years ago) link

*waits patiently for lj to get to the title track*

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 11 March 2016 12:31 (eight years ago) link

yeah that was great! gf all 'this is their pinkshinyultrablast song' haha

Laertiades (imago), Friday, 11 March 2016 12:48 (eight years ago) link

ok that was great. maybe the most ambitious boy-band album ever?

Laertiades (imago), Friday, 11 March 2016 13:09 (eight years ago) link

b4 u gooooo

uberweiss, Friday, 11 March 2016 13:57 (eight years ago) link

what makes them a boy band?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 March 2016 13:57 (eight years ago) link

They have too many young female fans, obviously.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 11 March 2016 14:26 (eight years ago) link

this is on spotify now btw https://open.spotify.com/album/1JFmNyVPdBF1ECvv4fhpW4

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 11 March 2016 18:14 (eight years ago) link

just in time for me to cancel my tidal subscription

J0rdan S., Friday, 11 March 2016 20:53 (eight years ago) link

tfw you're not even 3 months into 2016 and you've already found your favourite album of all time

uberweiss, Monday, 14 March 2016 00:37 (eight years ago) link

^^^^^

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 14 March 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link

Ok, this is pretty great so far.

MikoMcha, Monday, 14 March 2016 20:07 (eight years ago) link

I want to poll the new album so bad but it's too sooooooon

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 20 March 2016 04:35 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

bought the album on vinyl and digging it, but it didn't come w/ a download code. before i write 'em to ask for one, just wanted to make sure others' did ... or didn't. thx!

alpine static, Monday, 11 April 2016 14:35 (eight years ago) link

I recently got the first album new and that didn't come with one. I'm waiting to try and find a copy below $40 before I get the new album. If it doesn't come with a code that is absolutely ridiculous considering the price.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 11 April 2016 14:40 (eight years ago) link

i bought the latest album on vinyl and it came with a download code!

j. winters (josh), Monday, 11 April 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link

I'm waiting to try and find a copy below $40

This is a joke, right? You're not seriously telling me that the vinyl costs four times as much as the CD?

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 11 April 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link

This is extremely common nowadays.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 11 April 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link

Unfortunately I'm not joking about that price. Most modern records it's usually $12 for the CD and around $20 for the vinyl which seems reasonable to me. There are exceptions and this is sadly one of them.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 11 April 2016 17:16 (eight years ago) link

from my very cursory investigation it looked like they actually tried to make the packaging for the i like it when you sleep vinyl actually worth the $40 where a lot of times it's just a record in a sleeve with a single piece of paper

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 April 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link

and at least it's legit double album length, not like the recent trend of distributing albums that barely break 40 mins over four sides of vinyl.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 11 April 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this video is so fukkin dope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trbwqF0d7NA

does anyone know what its referencing? i assume something specific

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 04:36 (seven years ago) link

such a good video

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 April 2016 04:46 (seven years ago) link

listened for the first time this morning, cool album
this track and the title track early favs

nxd, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 11:25 (seven years ago) link

Inspirations, from the hand typed PR from Matthew …

Fellini - The Clown (1970)
(make up/facial expressions/era/mood)
Michael Jackson as Charlie Chaplin
(Smile/childhood/messages of a better world)
Gene Kelly (Not as smooth, less confidence)
Bob Fosse (youtube various clips of Bob Fosse dancing. Around 6mins, the duet)
The Wiz (the way the feet shuffle when they walk up the yellow brick road for the first time)
The Cloud
www.richardclarkson.com
Robbers
la poesie est dans la rue
sense of resignation.
I want to convey the resignation in being a clown. i am have been and will always be a clown. i think it can tire people.
for the sake of subtext and self reference it should be in black and white. also more chic

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link

i guess i should see the clown

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link

Just been listening to my "highlights" of the second album and I think this flows nicely:

The 1975
UGH!
A Change of Heart
She's American
Please Be Naked
Lostmyhead
The Ballad of Me and My Brain
Somebody Else
I Like it When You Sleep...
The Sound
This Must Be My Dream

Hardly radical. Would maybe move "I Like It..." to the end.

michaellambert, Thursday, 5 May 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link

no paris no credibility

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 May 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link

Ah, good point well made.

The 1975
UGH!
A Change of Heart
She's American
The Sound
Please Be Naked
Lostmyhead
The Ballad of Me and My Brain
Somebody Else
This Must Be My Dream
Paris
I Like it When You Sleep...

michaellambert, Thursday, 5 May 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link

no 1975 at all maximum credibility

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Thursday, 5 May 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

No more changes

michaellambert, Thursday, 5 May 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link

ideal version of this album has "The Ballad of Me and My Brain" play three times in a row.

But apart from that the correct short version of this album is:

I Like it When You Sleep...
The Sound
If I Believe You (HOW COULD YOU LEAVE THIS OFF)
UGH!
She's American
Please Be Naked
Lostmyhead
The Ballad of Me and My Brain
This Must Be My Dream
Paris
Somebody Else
A Change of Heart (with extra two minutes of the final guitar loop)

Tim F, Thursday, 5 May 2016 23:49 (seven years ago) link

Brad's right. No Paris, no credibility.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Friday, 6 May 2016 06:05 (seven years ago) link

the lack of "nana", you're all psychopaths

uberweiss, Friday, 6 May 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link

If I believe you is a top 3 song...

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 13 May 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link

yes

J0rdan S., Friday, 13 May 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link

i like that in everyone's short version of the album no one got rid of the three long mostly instrumental tracks

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 13 May 2016 16:03 (seven years ago) link

"everyone" meaning, i guess, michaellambert and tim

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 13 May 2016 16:03 (seven years ago) link

I would not either

also "loving someone" is weird, it's easily my least favorite track on the album and yet i know several people who think it's the best thing ever

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 13 May 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

yeah "loving someone" is the only one i routinely skipz

J0rdan S., Friday, 13 May 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

skip...............

J0rdan S., Friday, 13 May 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

it would be a great bonus track maybe, but it's the only song that breaks the album's flow.I really like the song on its own though, the verses are where it's at, dull chorus though.

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 13 May 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link

the production on the second verse of "if i believe you" routinely blows me away. the sudden choir bursts, the decaying percussion

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 13 May 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

the production on that entire song is unbelievable. the way his voice mutates slowly mutates into a robot's on the outro is one of my fav parts on the entire album.

J0rdan S., Friday, 13 May 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

it would be a great bonus track maybe, but it's the only song that breaks the album's flow.I really like the song on its own though, the verses are where it's at, dull chorus though.

― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, May 13, 2016 11:19 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the album is stylistically all over the place & better for it. chorus is awesome

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 13 May 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

i absolutely love "loving someone" but then i also enjoyed large swathes of the ed sheeran album so

WE'RE ALL HUMAN
WE'RE JUST LIKE YOU MAN
WE'RE SENTIENT OR SOMETHING OR OTHER I CAN'T REMEMBER WHATEVER

and i think it flows very well in the album, the "you should be loving someone" opening as the echoes of a ghost that haunts the characters of "somebody else" or something or other

be honest y'all are being unfair to it bc it's sandwiched btwn the 2 best songs of all time

uberweiss, Saturday, 14 May 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link

idk it's grown on me a lot but it's still a lesser "so far it's alright"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 14 May 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

also the thought of the album not starting with "the 1975" into "love me" is making me want to kill myself your tracklist edits are offensive

uberweiss, Saturday, 14 May 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link

don't get me wrong I really really like Loving Someone it's just an awkward moment in the flow

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 14 May 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link

I think this album's sprawlingness is a big part of its charm so my edit would keep it more or less as it is, with possible removal of If I Believe You to irritate the real headz

'if i believe you' is p good actually. i wouldn't change it at all

yeah jeez

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 15 May 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

i had to hear it not on a loud tube train where the subtleties were lost

this is srsly the most a band has ever improved between 1st and 2nd album tho

lol

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 15 May 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link

I still like the first one more

Spottie, Sunday, 15 May 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link

The difference isn't as great as imago pretends anyway; if you work off the deluxe version of the debut it basically disappears.

Tim F, Sunday, 15 May 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

Yeah

Spottie, Sunday, 15 May 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link

it's a big improvement but it's not like where they started is anywhere close to bad. the biggest improvement is probably just the increased focus on the production from having a bigger budget?

Loving Someone is definitely one of the weaker tracks but I wouldn't skip it, and it's better than So Far (It's Alright) for sure

ufo, Sunday, 15 May 2016 23:48 (seven years ago) link

"So Far (It's Alright)" has better lyrics - some of Matt's best probably.

Tim F, Sunday, 15 May 2016 23:50 (seven years ago) link

yeah that really makes all the difference

plus laura nyro sample

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 15 May 2016 23:54 (seven years ago) link

via j dilla probably

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 15 May 2016 23:58 (seven years ago) link

the 1975

Spottie, Monday, 16 May 2016 00:02 (seven years ago) link

lol i was like "i know i found that out via this thread i just can't remember where or who mentioned it"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 16 May 2016 00:03 (seven years ago) link

:)

Spottie, Monday, 16 May 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link

Loving Someone is my daughter's favourite track.
Also, THAT'S THE ONE WHERE SOMETHING I WROTE ABOUT THEM GOT TURNED INTO A LYRIC!

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Monday, 16 May 2016 09:31 (seven years ago) link

i want their next album to be entirely written in turrican quotes

Surely that was the video for The Sound?

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Monday, 16 May 2016 12:41 (seven years ago) link

Ah, incorporating journalistic quotes into your material. Shrewd move.

Turrican, Monday, 16 May 2016 12:55 (seven years ago) link

One thing is for sure, if '80s revivalism winds up becoming a joke I'll be holding these dickheads solely responsible. They're certainly doing more than their bit.

Turrican, Monday, 16 May 2016 13:01 (seven years ago) link

They could retire, give all their money was going to Syrian refugees, spend the rest of the lives working in camps with said refugees, disavow all their music and insist all future royalties were devoted to anonymously boosting education and health spending and you'd still accuse them of cynicism.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Monday, 16 May 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link

Damn lack of edit post function: "give all their money to Syrian refugees"

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Monday, 16 May 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link

One thing is for sure, if '80s revivalism winds up becoming a joke I'll be holding these dickheads solely responsible. They're certainly doing more than their bit.

― Turrican, Monday, May 16, 2016 8:01 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're saying this nearly a decade after 'it was acceptable in teh 80s' helped transform calvin harris into a huge pop-edm force smh

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 16 May 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

anyone else at the brooklyn show tonight?

all told i'd prob prefer to see them again in a smaller venue but it was a really edifying show. i feel like if they wrote 5 more songs like "the sound" they could be the biggest band in the world but it's cool that they don't and have teenagers grooving to shit like "a change of heart" and d'angelo's trumpet player's flugelhorn solo on some robo-gospel stadium song. they really sold "the sound" actually it was prob my fav moment of the night & obv that's far from my fav song of theirs. the crowd also seemed really into "loving someone". also maybe we're so distanced from "the city" and "chocolate" that it's hard to remember what they actually sound like but it sounded to me like they were playing them w/ more groovy guitar figures a la "girls" which was pretty cool.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 May 2016 04:54 (seven years ago) link

I love Change of Heart but live his voice is really thin and whiny on it. On the record it's deep, lush, enveloping. :(

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 29 May 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

i'd given the 1995 wide berth based soley on their name (despite making substanial room in my life for king gizzard and the lizard wizard), but i like it when you sleep for you are a fiona apple album is pretty okay. they're better at soulful ballads than upbeat 80s dance pop, and i have no use whatsoever for the owl city ambient that bloats the album's midsection, but it boils down to a solid 45 minutes:

Love Me
UGH!
Change of Heart
She's American
If I Believe You
Somebody Else
The Sound
Paris
Nana
She Lays Down

most of those listed tracks are dance pop though

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 May 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link

yeah, it felt too mean to cut "love me" and "the sound". with "nana", those'd be the next to go.

favorites are "change of heart", "if i believe you", "paris" and "she lays down".

Least essential takes

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 29 May 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

noooooooope nope nope nope

j. winters (josh), Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link

lol, they sound to me like a band struggling to disguise themselves, and they do it reasonably well. but it's only when they relax into sap that they really convince me.

They could always disguise themselves as a non-functioning band.

Turrican, Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

What does that even mean

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 May 2016 00:44 (seven years ago) link

it means turrican really just can't let go of this one

art baengels (monotony), Monday, 30 May 2016 02:22 (seven years ago) link

Just chiming in since I was very late to the party due to their horrible name, but what great songs and sound - both albums are very strong and "This Must Be My Dream" is perfect summer driving music. Love how they use 80s signifiers as a tool rather than pastiche (why I also love Haim).

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

before you go
turn
the big light off

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 June 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

hi, Brad!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 July 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link

holy shit this video

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 July 2016 23:16 (seven years ago) link

omg

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 July 2016 03:48 (seven years ago) link

this video is ... much worse than the last video, and worse in a lot of different ways

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Friday, 8 July 2016 07:28 (seven years ago) link

all their videos are comically dismal, at best

r|t|c, Friday, 8 July 2016 08:13 (seven years ago) link

comically dismal prob describes my #aesthetic but idk, I really enjoy how this one starts off as inland empire and ends with matty fucking himself

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 8 July 2016 10:34 (seven years ago) link

no yeah i think they're also quite uncompromisingly appropriate in their way

r|t|c, Friday, 8 July 2016 10:50 (seven years ago) link

i think the "change of heart" video is legit good

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 July 2016 13:42 (seven years ago) link

"love me" & "the sound" are ridiculous verging on embarrassing in a way that perfectly nails their appeal

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 July 2016 13:43 (seven years ago) link

^^ otm, and i think the "somebody else" video folds into the latter category

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 8 July 2016 13:45 (seven years ago) link

all of the videos are above and beyond the ones from the last album cycle, excepting maybe "robbers"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 8 July 2016 13:45 (seven years ago) link

"ugh" video was super tasteful so maybe it's the worst one even tho it might be the most objectively "good"

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 July 2016 13:48 (seven years ago) link

One of the comments on the youtube clip for "Somebody Else" is "I want someone to fuck me like Matty Healy fucks Matty Healy" and it's gotten more than 2000 replies of people saying "OMG same" etc. in about 17 hours.

Tim F, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link

This video basically narrativises in comi-tragic form the herculean levels of self-absorption signalled by all the previous clips the whole album. As far as I can tell the lyrics on the screen when he is singing karaoke are just "ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME".

"Ugh" probably the most boring clip but it's saved by Matt doing that little "reeling off" face/motion when he sings "Me and my things, my car, my living..."

Tim F, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

i have decided to allow the internet (played by: u guys) to append "and that's okay" my earlier adjudication

'somebody else' as internal schizo cartesian love song to self is p cool

r|t|c, Friday, 8 July 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

As far as I can tell the lyrics on the screen when he is singing karaoke are just "ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME".

my favorite part. also my favorite genre of music video is the karaoke music video

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 8 July 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link

"ugh" video was super tasteful so maybe it's the worst one even tho it might be the most objectively "good"

― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 July 2016 14:48 Bookmark

objectively effective not aesthetic arguably tho? faithfully dramatizes irritably static ennui and its rote glamour (m/l runs with neon box cover art/transparent prison cell/installation claustrophobic motif as in 'the sound')

r|t|c, Friday, 8 July 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link

"Girls" is a good video, it feels like a really pop video

some dude, Saturday, 9 July 2016 00:56 (seven years ago) link

oh yeah i forgot about that one

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 July 2016 00:58 (seven years ago) link

it sums up their having-their-cake-and-eating-it-too identity crisis better than a dozen thinkpieces

some dude, Saturday, 9 July 2016 01:47 (seven years ago) link

"objectively effective not aesthetic arguably tho? faithfully dramatizes irritably static ennui and its rote glamour"

are these intended to sound like 1975 lyrics

pre millennial tension (uptown churl), Saturday, 9 July 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p047328k

groovypanda, Friday, 30 September 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link

lol

imago, Friday, 30 September 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Supposed to see these guys in exactly a week and I haven't received my presale ticket in the mail yet sadlol

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 16 October 2016 22:23 (seven years ago) link

Has Matt or anyone else in the band ever said why they don't play "The City" live anymore?

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link

how were they live?

Bee OK, Thursday, 27 October 2016 03:47 (seven years ago) link

They played a really fantastic show.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 27 October 2016 05:37 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

"Me" is still the best song ever for staring out at a city at night from a hotel room on a high floor while jetlagged.

toby, Monday, 21 November 2016 00:49 (seven years ago) link

wow otm

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 21 November 2016 01:51 (seven years ago) link

thanks! I have done this dozens of times now, can recommend.

toby, Monday, 21 November 2016 13:33 (seven years ago) link

Only two years removed from being crowned as the worst band of the year: https://scontent-gru2-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/15046803_1809241989320377_814551448313397248_n.jpg

cpl593H, Thursday, 24 November 2016 13:20 (seven years ago) link

It's such a shame that the NME jumped the shark years ago, this would have been a great moment to cite as the nail in the coffin if only the ship hadn't already sailed.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

A worthy winner. Despite some obvious flaws with the all new NME (I've still not forgiven them for that Chris Moyles cover) this is the third year in a row that they've picked something brilliant as their album of the year (St Vincent in 2014 and Grimes last year). Just popped over to their Facebook page to see the reaction. Seems like a lot of Radiohead fans are not pleased.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

I'd imagine fans of music wouldn't be pleased either.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link

thank u turrican

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link

I'm looking forward to seeing how well they do in our poll in the new year. A top five placement sounds good to me.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 24 November 2016 20:25 (seven years ago) link

Doubt they'll do that. Top 20 certainly on. I might make them my #25 lol

imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link

Lostmyhead through Somebody Else is kind of a miraculous run

imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link

otm. and i love "loving someone" now

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 November 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link

Loving Someone took a long time to grow on me. I just wish the album ended at Paris. That's my only complaint about it.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 24 November 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

i haven't read this whole thread but i assume consensus is you could easily carve 20ish minutes out of this thing and what you'd have left would be in contention for the year's best album?

alpine static, Thursday, 24 November 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

nah it all feels pretty necessary to me

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 November 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link

yeah it wouldn't be the same thing at all

imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

like the sprawl gives it shape and narrative that it otherwise wouldn't have; if you cut it down it can become a pop album or a moody subterranean thing but that it manages to flow out of one form into the next and then back is why it's actually remarkable

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 November 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link

I don't love every song, but agree that the sprawl is a necessary structure to cover the range the album has, just like the White Album

Vinnie, Friday, 25 November 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link

Doubt they'll do that. Top 20 certainly on. I might make them my #25 lol

― imago, Thursday, November 24, 2016 2:26 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

theyre a lock for top 5 imo

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 28 November 2016 04:11 (seven years ago) link

i forgot i came in here and posted that thing about carving 20ish minutes out. fair all around ... i certainly have elevated bloated-ish albums as high as #1 in a given year before in the name of ambition or w/e. it's cool.

still, i think i would actually *enjoy* listening to an edited version more. i think you can cut Please Be Naked. it's good and interesting, but doesn't accomplish much that they don't accomplish elsewhere on the album. i'm torn on the last two tracks and their necessity.

ALL THAT SAID, i am very much in the process of falling deeply in love with this album, so i may decide in two days that it's perfect as is and i'll murder anyone who says differently.

right now i'm at the "go back and read the whole ILM thread" stage of that process :)

alpine static, Monday, 28 November 2016 09:14 (seven years ago) link

i mean, it says a lot that i created an itunes playlist and am trying to edit the album down and having a hard time doing so!

alpine static, Monday, 28 November 2016 09:19 (seven years ago) link

Love it when a new ILX poster falls into the honey trap of 1975 fandom.

Also Alpine's post actually did inspire me to reread this thread and can I just:

I would expect that Matt Healey knows what he's doing in interviews. Given who his parents are, I would be completely surprised if he hadn't had some sort of advice or media training. I'm sure Matt Healey knows exactly what he's doing.

― Turrican, Friday, October 9, 2015 3:36 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2016/02/RTX25SKX/lead_960.jpg?1454831034

Tim F, Monday, 28 November 2016 10:22 (seven years ago) link

is it just me that feels that there's some the 1975 in this bieber's song?

nowadays i see the 1975 in almost everything i listen, so i can't judge properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5LNlHYSfkc

Nourry, Monday, 28 November 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

i love that song but it sounded like pretty standard disco influenced pop to me

J0rdan S., Monday, 28 November 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link

Holy shit. Ok, so I didn't like the debut at all. If it wasn't for D-40's comparison of this album to In Ghost Colours somewhere upthread, I wouldn't have even bothered...

Fucking awesome album. I'll eventually re-listen to the debut as a few of you seem to think this isn't an improvement.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Saturday, 3 December 2016 03:04 (seven years ago) link

def an improvement but i think that it also brings out some things i didn't realize were good about the first one in retrospect

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 3 December 2016 23:36 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

God bless VEVO for putting up a full almost two hour live set from their recent batch of shows at the O2. Merry Christmas!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kiY87XLahk

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 25 December 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

this is so good

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 December 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

Ross can propose to me during "fallingforyou" if he wants tbh

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 25 December 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link

fuck, they're playing the title track?????????????

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 December 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link

WHAT

Tim F, Sunday, 25 December 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

Ugh, took so long for Tim to show up.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 25 December 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link

Stop using other people's shitposts as a mirror for you.

Tim F, Sunday, 25 December 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link

omg they're playing "undo"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 December 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

They're not playing "The City" though.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 25 December 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

for the best it always felt kinda disconnected live

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 December 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link

their best songs live are generally the ones where they have to rethink the arrangements, so: the ep tracks and "m.o.n.e.y.", which i'm glad they're playing again

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 December 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link

whoa, "please be naked"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 December 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link

please be naked -> lostmyhead -> somebody else -> fallingforyou

*muffled cry*

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 December 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link

drummer is very chill

alpine static, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link

enjoying this full set, btw

alpine static, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link

the 'undo' moment. can't handle it.

Nourry, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 13:13 (seven years ago) link

'fallingforyou'. wow. i just can't.

Nourry, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link

lmao at performing 'a change of heart' with a glass of red wine and a single red rose in the same hand

tpp, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link

I wonder how Matty saw the "fallingforyou" proposal, like did the crowd form a visible radius around the couple or was the ring just visible from the stage or what

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:47 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

haha <3

Spottie, Friday, 27 January 2017 23:33 (seven years ago) link

my entire timeline has collapsed

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 27 January 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link

oh my god

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 27 January 2017 23:48 (seven years ago) link

needs about 35% more pop-punk accent tho

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 27 January 2017 23:48 (seven years ago) link

Holy hell. Thats glorious.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 27 January 2017 23:50 (seven years ago) link

Be still my heart

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 January 2017 00:09 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/TkiO9Gq.jpg

february 21

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 14:59 (seven years ago) link

oh shit

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:04 (seven years ago) link

ooh i knew they'd talked about releasing new singles or an EP this year but i wasn't expecting anything as soon as this

ufo, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:07 (seven years ago) link

A Sade cover?

MarkoP, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 16:29 (seven years ago) link

fuck me up

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 February 2017 17:53 (seven years ago) link

!!!!

Tim F, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 19:41 (seven years ago) link

I really hope it's not a Sade cover.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 22:26 (seven years ago) link

why on earth would you hope that

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 February 2017 00:48 (seven years ago) link

instrumentals?

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 11 February 2017 21:11 (seven years ago) link

holy mfing shit at this blink/1975 cover thing

k3vin k., Saturday, 11 February 2017 23:20 (seven years ago) link

http://www.factmag.com/2017/02/16/skepta-1975-collaboration-pet-shop-boys/

ufo, Thursday, 16 February 2017 11:32 (seven years ago) link

The 1975 to release cover of Sade’s ‘By Your Side’

maura, Monday, 20 February 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3oVNpIwWcc

groovypanda, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 12:14 (seven years ago) link

Blocked in France

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 12:26 (seven years ago) link

And Holland

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 12:29 (seven years ago) link

And the US

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 13:21 (seven years ago) link

and Canada

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 14:10 (seven years ago) link

idk how long this is gonna stay up but https://www.youpak.com/watch?v=c3oVNpIwWcc

so so so gorgeous jesus christ

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link

where do i leave my corpse?

Nourry, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 19:11 (seven years ago) link

i'm inconsolable tbh

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link

i can't get used to the fact that this band can always wreck me in ways i thought inimaginable. and i love that this is the path they choose to follow after 'i like it when you sleep...', although it can mean nothing.

Nourry, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 19:27 (seven years ago) link

Blocked in France
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:26 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And Holland
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:29 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And the US
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, February 21, 2017 1:21 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and Canada
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, February 21, 2017 2:10 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The UK next, please.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 19:27 (seven years ago) link

not gonna lie that zing was legit

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link

:D

imago, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link

lmao turrican

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 19:33 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, did not like that at all. Covering a Sade song as a sad robot is a bad move.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 19:48 (seven years ago) link

yeah I really liked the album and thought it was a huge step forward, but this isn't a great version at all

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link

here's an audio link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04tmqc4

good b-side!

reminds me of uwe schmidt's (very good) john lennon cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWvI2svwrs

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link

People thinking the Brits have been "hacked" tonight

https://twitter.com/LaurenECull/status/834500890736345095

groovypanda, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link

Turrican clearly hacking on behalf of the British deep state

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/nySwrXi.gif

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 23 February 2017 14:54 (seven years ago) link

I HAVE ONLY JUST FOUND OUT THIS NEW SINGLE IS ACTUALLY A GODDAMN SADE COVER. THEY DARED. THEY FUCKING DARED APPROACH THE HEM.

LORD GIVE ME THE CONFIDENCE OF A MEDIOCRE WHITE MAN ETC ETC ETC

lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:48 (seven years ago) link

lol

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 24 February 2017 17:50 (seven years ago) link

I didn't think the Futureheads desecrating Kate Bush would be outdone in my lifetime

lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link

haha i am not that outraged but it does betray a...... lack of self-awareness, or at least Sade-awareness, on par with i dunno chvrches doing a stereolab cover? you just don't mess, it does you no favours

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 February 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link

or like...when chvrches did a bauhaus cover

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 24 February 2017 18:02 (seven years ago) link

Stereogum ran a whole article this week on cover versions of this song. They were uniformly awful.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 24 February 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link

I would gladly listen to Chvrches cover Stereolab.

MarkoP, Friday, 24 February 2017 18:04 (seven years ago) link

chvrches doing "bela lugosi's dead" feels way more out-of-depth than this though, not that i'm justifying this cover to people who will believe me on that point

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 24 February 2017 18:04 (seven years ago) link

that chvrches cover is so bizarre, i had totally forgotten about it

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 24 February 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link

besides which the "by your side" cover doesn't veer from the original arrangement or reconstruct it as a rock song a la futureheads, just sort of faithfully recreates it with saxophones and synths and i assume someone humming through a distortion pedal, w matty singing through a vocoder. the anger it inspires is just another exponent of the significant contempt ppl already feel for this band, sade injury added to general insult

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 24 February 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link

though i guess now that they've trolled lex so directly they can break up

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 24 February 2017 18:15 (seven years ago) link

what's up with the posts in this thread about how this cover is bad

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link

matty using a vocoder kinda subverted how i genuinely would rather not hear anyone but sade sing this song. it's like the inverse of bon iver's bonnie raitt cover, which is well-intentioned and intolerable

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 24 February 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link

it's like they took the outro of "if i believe you" and made it a whole song, can't think of anything i'd want more in my life

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2017 19:37 (seven years ago) link

definitely better than justin vernon's autotune cover

ufo, Saturday, 25 February 2017 04:10 (seven years ago) link

yeah uh this is amazing jordan otm

k3vin k., Saturday, 25 February 2017 04:16 (seven years ago) link

the idea that a band who pulled off soul so flawlessly on "if i believe you" hasn't earned the right to tackle sade does not scan to me

k3vin k., Saturday, 25 February 2017 04:49 (seven years ago) link

ok I need to hear that Chvrche s cover, and this one too.

Mark G, Saturday, 25 February 2017 14:23 (seven years ago) link

their last album is still so good btw

k3vin k., Sunday, 26 February 2017 03:41 (seven years ago) link

oh it's one year old today!

ufo, Sunday, 26 February 2017 04:24 (seven years ago) link

is it just me or is "change of heart" super hats-y, especially the beginning

k3vin k., Sunday, 26 February 2017 04:45 (seven years ago) link

"please be naked" too tbh

k3vin k., Sunday, 26 February 2017 05:02 (seven years ago) link

yes to both

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Sunday, 26 February 2017 05:35 (seven years ago) link

it's very easy to imagine a paul buchanan vocal over please be naked

ufo, Sunday, 26 February 2017 05:47 (seven years ago) link

has enough time passed for us to poll the album

k3vin k., Sunday, 26 February 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link

omg yeah

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Sunday, 26 February 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link

i'm going for it

k3vin k., Sunday, 26 February 2017 19:51 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

btw "by your side" still slays

k3vin k., Friday, 7 April 2017 21:27 (seven years ago) link

slaaaaays.

k3vin k., Tuesday, 11 April 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link

sremms on 'perfect pint' is the only legitimate sade tribute tbh

r|t|c, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 14:40 (seven years ago) link

n|a|h

k3vin k., Wednesday, 12 April 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link

so this band doesn't sound anything like I thought they woud sound like. pleasant surprise.

akm, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 04:24 (seven years ago) link

Beats 1 ✔ @Beats1
"The next record’s called ‘Music For Cars.’ That’s the title and it references our 2nd EP or our 3rd EP." @Truman_Black @the1975

read a report that suggested it'll be out later this year but can't confirm

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 April 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link

matty tweeted 2018 a few months ago

J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 April 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link

yeah that's what i'm expecting. stereogum and a few other outlets running with the "this year" thing

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 April 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link

but also matty loves to tweet numbers

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 April 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link

oh yeah he says 2018 in the interview ffs

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 April 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link

ugh

k3vin k., Thursday, 27 April 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link

but i want it now

k3vin k., Thursday, 27 April 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9EBhaULToU

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 April 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

I think he'd previously said they hope to have the lead single from it out by the end of the year

ufo, Friday, 28 April 2017 01:34 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

true or false:

the current 1975 listening cru is actually the the-dream listening cru reconstituted

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

right down to shipley's cautious enthusiasm

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

true on my part.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link

Seeing these guys for the first time tonight. So excited!

kitchen person, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link

don't think I've knowingly heard a song by the-dream, mostly because of his name. come to think of it, that kept me from listening to the 1975 for months too!

Vinnie, Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:12 (six years ago) link

*whispers* their cover of "by your side" is legit one of the best things they've done

k3vin k., Saturday, 27 May 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

new Arcade Fire cover art looks familiar!🤔 pic.twitter.com/pNEsRwN9jz

— Ben Salmon (@bcsalmon) June 1, 2017

alpine static, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCjjr3XXYAAmnNR.jpg

k3vin k., Saturday, 17 June 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link

hell yeah

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 June 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

if someone out there is interested, recently i made a 2hour mix dedicated to the 1975 for my online radio show.

it's here, just in case. - https://www.mixcloud.com/quanticaonline/suspens%C3%A3o-da-d%C3%BAvida-14-by-jo%C3%A3o-mo%C3%A7o-the-1975-special-15062017/

this is the tracklist. i'm sorry in advance for the plug.

- The 1975
- undo
- somebody else
- fallingforyou
- me
- please be naked
- medicine
- by your side (sade cover)
- menswear
- the ballad of me and my brain
- haunt // bed
- i like it when you sleep, for you are so beautiful yet so unaware of it
- facedown
- a change of heart
- hnscc
- head.cars.bending
- m.o.n.e.y.
- ugh!
- heart out
- paris
- this must be my dream
- talk!
- chocolate
- you
- milk
-nana
- woman
- antichrist
- lostmyhead
- if i believe you
- the 1975

Nourry, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

the percussion in "paris" reminds me of the blue nile's "no second act" a lot

k3vin k., Saturday, 14 October 2017 06:51 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Okay - one more EP

— matty (@Truman_Black) November 5, 2017

k3vin k., Sunday, 5 November 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

:O

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 5 November 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

matty otm

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

yessssss

flopson, Sunday, 5 November 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIRCjztMI7k

etc, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 04:36 (six years ago) link

I feel like the LANY album is a pretty decent rip-off of The 1975, not quite a great album but good enough to be a worthy distraction

boxedjoy, Saturday, 11 November 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link

LANY?

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 11 November 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

MFC pic.twitter.com/NqzB38UGKw

— matty (@Truman_Black) November 23, 2017

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 November 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

I spent a solid 20 seconds trying to deduce what the first digit of the EP's length was

Simon H., Thursday, 23 November 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link

that’s the album i think. i assume its 69 minutes long

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 November 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link

nice

Simon H., Thursday, 23 November 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

I have to say, "Cars" isn't the usual word I think of when I see "The 1975 - Music for..."

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 23 November 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

Love the meatloafeness of that song title.

cpl593H, Thursday, 23 November 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

turrican retire bitch

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 November 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link

turrican have you considered that maybe deep down you just really love the 1975

Simon H., Thursday, 23 November 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

The 1975 live album is available now

Recorded at London's O2 16.12.16

Merry Christmas xx
https://t.co/p00uO7OBqX

— matty (@Truman_Black) December 15, 2017

stritram, Friday, 15 December 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link

it's just they show they put out on youtube last year without visuals, so it feels sorta arbitrary and random as a new release but at least the show's good

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 15 December 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link

oh and it looks like they put it back on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kiY87XLahk

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 15 December 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/UER3TXrQan

— matty (@Truman_Black) December 16, 2017

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 December 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

that’s the album i think. i assume its 69 minutes long

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:07 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dammit matty

stritram, Saturday, 16 December 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

or wait it probably just depends on some arbitrary thing idk

stritram, Saturday, 16 December 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

the version of "if i believe you" on the live album is amazing

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 January 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link

this is cute lol

"Im on a @the1975 roller coaster right now I can't stop listening to them. I was listening to them in the car the other day and I was like I just want to DM @Truman_Black & be like "hey can we work together" @Camila_Cabello x @Truman_Black 👉🏼📲 WATCH pic.twitter.com/5GqC8cTDCx

— Zane Lowe (@zanelowe) January 15, 2018

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 00:11 (six years ago) link

Maybe her next album won't be a snoozefest.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 05:18 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

FYI the early EPs Sex through IV are still the best music ever created.

Tim F, Sunday, 4 March 2018 00:22 (six years ago) link

This music made my June 2013 so emotional.

Tim F, Sunday, 4 March 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link

really hope brad comes back before the next one comes out :(

Simon H., Sunday, 4 March 2018 01:41 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

https://i.imgur.com/67QE13O.jpg

it begins

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 29 April 2018 13:41 (five years ago) link

someone i know has an advance of... something and they're bein' real coy about it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 29 April 2018 13:42 (five years ago) link

i'm expecting June 1st as the release date for something with how much they were teasing it a few months ago, super exciting

ufo, Sunday, 29 April 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link

ayeee

k3vin k., Sunday, 29 April 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link

hyperventilating

J0rdan S., Sunday, 29 April 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

:D

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 29 April 2018 23:34 (five years ago) link

Brad, you would've loved the panel I moderated this weekend:

https://www.mopop.org/programs/programs/pop-conference/

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 April 2018 23:37 (five years ago) link

They deleted their social media accounts again.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 30 April 2018 02:02 (five years ago) link

Okay, website’s got a countdown clock. It’s on.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link

at this point actively hoping the song is called “a brief inquiry into online relationships”

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link

https://t.co/tmjlHBzB3r pic.twitter.com/IqPlAYVEsK

— The 1975 (@the1975) May 1, 2018

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link

in the meantime, the new charlie puth single is extreme 1975core

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5orrZxSjLQA&feature=youtu.be

J0rdan S., Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://i.imgur.com/DdUsmEN.jpg

:O

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 May 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link

Ross looking tasty, as usual.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 19 May 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

Matt looking a lot like a red-headed Jaime from Marion, there.

MichaelJLambert, Saturday, 19 May 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link

The 1975 - Give Yourself A Try

This Thursday @BBCR1

— matty (@Truman_Black) May 28, 2018

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 28 May 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link

// G I V E Y O U R S E L F A T R Y – T H U R S D A Y 7 P M // @BBCR1 @ANNIEMAC L O V E pic.twitter.com/d9qqt8p2LB

— matty (@Truman_Black) May 29, 2018

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

those sure are matty lyrics

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link

Give Matty's lyrics a try, Brad.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link

very excited but i hope the new album(s?) is closer than four and a half months away

ufo, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link

wow those lyrics are bad

I’m sure the song will rule tho

k3vin k., Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link

I found a grey hair in one of my zoots / like context in a modern debate I just took it out

:/

k3vin k., Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link

what is a "zoot" in british

Simon H., Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link

a joint

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:47 (five years ago) link

Aww. I was hoping he was talking about his Zoot Suit.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link

is it thursday yet?? I can't wait

Nourry, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 10:47 (five years ago) link

I found a grey hair in one of my zoots / like context in a modern debate I just took it out

:/

― k3vin k., Tuesday, 29 May 2018 7:28 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was about to make this exact post.

Tim F, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link

All that marijuana is rottting his brain

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

same tbh

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link

hard to imagine a matty lyric that at this point i would not accept into my life

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 30 May 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

i could stand to give myself a try

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link

that lyric IS my life

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

gave myself a try last night tbh

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

alfred!

k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 May 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link

like you didn't think of that joke!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

hehe

k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 May 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link

for crying out loud, settle down.

Tim F, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

chances this leaks tonight.... :D

k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 May 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

i can't tell if that's an extension of the joke....

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 23:03 (five years ago) link

holy shit this song fucking rules

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link

????????

J0rdan S., Thursday, 31 May 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link

looks like it leaked out via a chinese streaming site putting it up early

ufo, Thursday, 31 May 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link

if you want to sift through the 1975 reddit, it's there

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

similar to any other 1975 song?

k3vin k., Thursday, 31 May 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link

none i can think of, maybe a sped up "paris"?

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

it reminds me both of art angels and "hard to explain," both of those comparisons are prob misleading

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link

i'm almost hearing like... second album bloc party? but i want to hear that in a lot of things lol

J0rdan S., Thursday, 31 May 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

very New Order/Joy Division in feeling (is that the "Disorder" riff?), i like it

probably closest to "Sex" out of all their previous work

this is what I wish A Weekend in the City had sounded like

ufo, Thursday, 31 May 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

The song needs more sparkly piano bits.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

the album is called a brief inquiry into online relationships

it is not done yet, lmao

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

They're putting out two albums!

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

first one in october, next one in may?

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

Wait, this sounds like "The City".

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

... in what way

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

Melodically?

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link

i suppose the verses are set up similarly

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

Jeez, try not to be too agreeable

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link

lol sorry i just don't really hear it

anyway, great song

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

sort of endearing how bad they are at album titles, great to hear that we are indeed getting two albums, don't know how to feel about them dragging out the promotion so long yet again if the album isn't until october

ufo, Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

I'm dreading the slow-drip promo until October.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

lol jinx

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

I love sincere and earnest Matty.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

what a good day

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

Ugh, see y'all in October. Bye!

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

i love this stupid band

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

Song honors the title imo

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link

the album is called a brief inquiry into online relationships

it is not done yet, lmao

― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, May 31, 2018 2:13 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i’m just with my friends online
and there’s things we’d like to change

k3vin k., Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link

What's the point of the countdown clock now that the song is officially out

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

music video iirc?

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

nice guitar tone. his vox sound a little more nasally than usual on this?

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link

i feel extremely owned by these lyrics

J0rdan S., Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link

Jordan, are you 29

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link

for crying out loud, settle down.

― Tim F, Wednesday, May 30, 2018 6:34 PM (

good The 1975 song title, I just realized

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link

“Sex” meets “Paris” is OTM and also is officially a look.

Now i’m wondering if the album might end up in vaguely the same sonic territory as the latest Wye Oak (and lol @ me if they then end up being my top two albums of 2018).

Tim F, Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link

it's great but so short!

k3vin k., Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link

and yeah ufo, I also hear "disorder" now that I think of it. my first thought for some was actually "45" by the gaslight anthem

k3vin k., Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

I like it!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2018 23:14 (five years ago) link

2019 album is Notes On A Conditional Form which is just as pretentious but sounds way better

ufo, Thursday, 31 May 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link

I also hear "disorder"

manchester band that fuse emo and post-punk tendencies

we've come full circle

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 23:41 (five years ago) link

Ian Curtis working with Jam and Lewis?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link

that song is rad, after the sprawl of the last one i would love a lean 'n' mean 1975 album

alpine static, Thursday, 31 May 2018 23:53 (five years ago) link

wow, absolutely love the guitars

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 31 May 2018 23:53 (five years ago) link

as soon as i read "notes on a conditional form" i was like "wow this really is my band"

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 May 2018 23:57 (five years ago) link

i’m a full convert to this already... the second verse lyrics are so good & once i accepted that the most catchy part of the song is the guitars i really got into it

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 June 2018 00:57 (five years ago) link

Yeah, pretty much rules.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 June 2018 01:27 (five years ago) link

now that r|t|c is gone ned raggett is my tastemaker

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 1 June 2018 01:41 (five years ago) link

the LOUD guitar + drum machine reminds me of Billy Idol, actually.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link

Steve Stevens would play this riff.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link

love it!
all the emojis, basically

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 June 2018 01:47 (five years ago) link

counting down to pride and kicking it off w a new song, queer icons tbh

lowercase (eric), Friday, 1 June 2018 01:57 (five years ago) link

The panel I moderated at Pop Con mentioned Healy's sartorial queerness (along with Young Thug and Harry Styles') but he's never coded queer to me.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2018 01:59 (five years ago) link

So good

flopson, Friday, 1 June 2018 02:16 (five years ago) link

In the video they look like they're playing a more lively version of the song, and I think I'd really like that version - this is alright but I want it to open up more. But I'm extremely excited for two albums

Vinnie, Friday, 1 June 2018 02:19 (five years ago) link

and i was 25
and afraid to go outside

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 1 June 2018 02:49 (five years ago) link

as nice as this is i am sort of disappointed they haven't come back with a huge pop single to conquer the world with

ufo, Friday, 1 June 2018 02:56 (five years ago) link

and i do wish there was a bridge instead of just a third verse

ufo, Friday, 1 June 2018 02:59 (five years ago) link

so i'm dumb and can't find the info: new album in October and then another in May? is that what they've announced?

October is forever away :(

alpine static, Friday, 1 June 2018 03:10 (five years ago) link

yep :(

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 1 June 2018 03:41 (five years ago) link

Maybe we'll get a new song every month.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 1 June 2018 03:43 (five years ago) link

http://diymag.com/2018/06/01/the-1975-cover-feature-give-yourself-a-try-music-for-cars

a few album details in this interview - "a lot of post-punk" "all over the place", "jazz and lounge", might end up similar to I Like It When You Sleep in length - all sounds promising

ufo, Saturday, 2 June 2018 08:28 (five years ago) link

Aww I like that interview. He seems to be asking himself the right questions

imago, Saturday, 2 June 2018 11:11 (five years ago) link

Don't know if this was posted upthread but it's produced by The 1975 and definitely shares similar vibes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq1Zut7l_fM

groovypanda, Thursday, 7 June 2018 11:25 (five years ago) link

yeah that's not bad

never saw this cover of clean bandit's "rather be" before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLrpp0xlIyc

k3vin k., Friday, 8 June 2018 02:56 (five years ago) link

i haven't been on this forum in 5 years cus i'm not v online of late but i had to come back for this thread cus i'm listening to give yourself a try every day and feelin so isolated in my 1975 love, i have just one friend who's also heavily into them and i don't see much of him right now

a couple years ago we took half a tab of acid each and listened to a moon shaped pool for the first time, then took another 1/2 and went to see the 1975 at champions square in new orleans. then biked thru the french quarter back to his place in the bywater and smoked a ton of weed with his neighbor roland on his stoop and then watched lemonade for the first time, i think that day opened many new doors in my appreciation of art in general

i can't think of a better band to see while tripping on acid, obviously their light show on that tour was eye-meltingly sophisticated and they sound impeccable and their self-consciously conceptual gimmickry is so perfect for a brain on lsd. (the way they fill the stage, and their iconography in general, with rectangles that have similar proportions to those of the thousands of iphones held aloft by the young women ages 14-21 that seemingly constituted the entire audience except for us, two guys in their late 20s..... the moment when they projected the infinite-regression video feed of the stage onto those rectangles on the stage on the rectangles on the stage etc etc and it opened a trap door in my mind)

i feel like a lot of what's great about them has been captured on this thread but one thing i haven't seen mentioned is their insanely detailed sense of timing and their total command of editing together the little sound effects and miniature samples and bits of punctuation that string their albums and especially their concerts together -- that glimpse of 'sledgehammer' at the start of 'she's american', the soda tab pop on 'girls,' the way they begin their albums and shows with a dang song called THE 1975 like, Welcome To The 1975 Show, and close the set out with the onstage projections collapsing into a little point of light like an analog tv shutting off. i am such a sucker for this kind of thing in music but movies and tv as well -- the clever and well-timed revelation of a title or soundtrack cue, atlanta is so good at this kind of thing

my favorite albums have always been the ones that sound obsessively crafted and create a trajectory or loose sense of narrative through sequencing and sonic detail rather than merely lyrical content -- like ladies & gentlemen we are floating in space, or braids' native speaker, or my beautiful dark twisted fantasy, or recently cornelius' mellow waves. but is anyone as good as the 1975 at this editing and transitions thing? does anyone have any idea what i'm talking abt?? i dunno but i'll just be over here replaying the first four bars of 'give yourself a try' to hear that beat at the end of the fourth bar where all the sound gets sucked into oblivion before the full band comes in

caulk the wagon and float it, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 03:48 (five years ago) link

very otm in that fourth paragraph, I think they are amazing with little details

Vinnie, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:25 (five years ago) link

caulk otm

flopson, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:36 (five years ago) link

On the first and second listen I couldn't get on board with this, but this is a monumental single. Banger, I can't get enough.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://i.imgur.com/VLAgv3s.jpg

rip lil peep

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

lol I was about to post that

Those lyrics... *tugs collar at that one line*

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link

what do you think that's in earnest

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

of course it's not unclumsy

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link

Of course it’s not in earnest

Just what you said, and I fear The Discourse

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link

lol sorry i need to get off the internet obv. anyway these lyrics are a lot

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

those sure are matty lyrics

ufo, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

Anyway, their lyrics, this band, everything about the 1975 has never looked good on paper until you hear them

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

i'm excited for "modernity has failed us" as a chorus

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

Excited for "Poison me Daddy", personally.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

"Very cool!"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

looks great on paper to me! lol

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

if it starts looking earnestly good on paper instead of meta-good on paper we should worry

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

that said i bet they actually liked lil peep at some level

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

oh definitely

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:14 (five years ago) link

fact that i don’t bat an eye let alone cringe at ‘like context in modern debate i took it out’ is a miracle and i fully trust he can spin any lyric

flopson, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link

any other fellow 1975 fans feel something of a kinship with Westerman?
https://soundcloud.com/westermanmusicuk/easy-money

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

this is the worst fucking thing I've ever read and if the name attached were father john misty or whatever it would be rightfully clowned to hell by now

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link

father john matty

Hall of Fam (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link

"what if we didn't start the fire were entirely sourced from reddit posts"

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link

lol

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link

we didn't start the ire

Simon H., Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

lol katherine

k3vin k., Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link

do they rhyme "fire" and "funeral pyre"

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link

no but they do rhyme "masturbation" and "immigration"

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

j/o in the congooooo

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

wowowow

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

the "poison me daddy" definitely did not let down

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

"Oh! Fuck your feelings! Truth is only hear say! We're just left to decay! Modernity has failed us"

i'm adoring this.

Nourry, Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link

lmao this beat is "the downtown lights"

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

poison me daddy

k3vin k., Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link

otm lowercase

Nourry, Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link

i was not ready

J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

this is instant canon

J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:41 (five years ago) link

Clever sonic move once again. And the "Downlight Lights" comparison is OTM.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

lmao this beat is "the downtown lights"

― lowercase (eric), Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:16 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was about to say!!

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

matty’s taste is impeccable man

k3vin k., Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

omg this is incredible, when it explodes halfway through the second chorus is one of their best moments ever

ufo, Thursday, 19 July 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

This is the best song I have ever heard.

Tim F, Thursday, 19 July 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

THE WAR HAS BEEN INCITED AND GUESS WHAT? YOU’RE ALL INVITED

Tim F, Thursday, 19 July 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link

now i want to tattoo 'poison me daddy'.
what a song.

Nourry, Thursday, 19 July 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link

Thank you so much, love you guys. I am very excited about releasing the 13 other songs

— matty (@Truman_Black) July 19, 2018

15 track album then

ufo, Thursday, 19 July 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link

Excellent song, bites "Downtown Lights" in the best way

Vinnie, Friday, 20 July 2018 00:10 (five years ago) link

i am bowled over by this song.

petey v, Friday, 20 July 2018 00:11 (five years ago) link

continuum of this song is "the downtown lights" -> fictional jam & lewis remix of "the downtown lights"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 20 July 2018 00:36 (five years ago) link

It's a bit like Don't Delete The Kisses.

piscesx, Friday, 20 July 2018 00:40 (five years ago) link

omg so good

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 July 2018 03:24 (five years ago) link

i just re-read this thread and it might be the last great ILM thread

J0rdan S., Friday, 20 July 2018 05:50 (five years ago) link

We are moving to Los Angeles in 2 weeks to start making 'Notes On a Conditional Form'. By the time we play our first show in January there will be two whole The 1975 albums that will have never been played before. I'm very excited. I bet you still ask for fucking Antichrist tho

— matty (@Truman_Black) July 13, 2018

poison me daddy

J0rdan S., Friday, 20 July 2018 06:21 (five years ago) link

it's more than 4 minutes but feels so short!

it is its own thing obv but feels like PiL covering Scritti produced by Air France woohoo

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 20 July 2018 08:14 (five years ago) link

is it just me that also feels that this may be one of the most fall out boy song of them?

Nourry, Friday, 20 July 2018 09:39 (five years ago) link

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/the-1975-love-it-if-we-made-it/

oh so now p4k is coming around on them

ufo, Friday, 20 July 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link

man they always go for the most sincere interpretation huh

(not say the song's insincere but...)

lowercase (eric), Friday, 20 July 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link

*saying

lowercase (eric), Friday, 20 July 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jul/20/matt-healy-of-the-1975-im-not-scared-of-myself-any-more

main detail from this interview is there's a "Drake-y tropical house" song on the record

ufo, Friday, 20 July 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jul/20/matt-healy-of-the-1975-im-not-scared-of-myself-any-more

main detail from this interview is there's a "Drake-y tropical house" song on the record

― ufo, Friday, July 20, 2018 10:35 AM (thirty-four minutes ago)

poison me daddy

― J0rdan S., Friday, July 20, 2018 1:21 AM (nine hours ago)

gr8080, Friday, 20 July 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

Give us a release date already.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 20 July 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jul/20/matt-healy-of-the-1975-im-not-scared-of-myself-any-more

main detail from this interview is there's a "Drake-y tropical house" song on the record

― ufo, Friday, July 20, 2018 4:35 PM (three hours ago)

I only heard it once and I still have it stuck in my head five days later.

snake, Friday, 20 July 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link

I'm going to hold off listening to this until the album comes out, but after their second LP won me over I'm very much looking forward to hearing it. Interview has reminded me that I still find Healy insufferable.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 20 July 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

actively anxious over what ~creative choices~ theyll be taking in the inevitable music video for this song

gr8080, Saturday, 21 July 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link

What an incredible single! I thought Give Yourself A Try was just good enough, but I am blown away by this one. I definitely don't mind the nod to The Downtown Lights one bit.

kitchen person, Saturday, 21 July 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

so confession time, I had been kind of self-fronting on the first album for a really long time, telling myself it wasn't really near the level of the second one, but over the past week I've been playing it all the time and it's finally opening itself up for me. "heart out" --> "settle down" --> "robbers" ranks up their with any of their runs

k3vin k., Monday, 23 July 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

I don't think the first album is anywhere near as good as the second. There's a couple of decent songs on there ('The City', 'Robbers') but Healy's vocals on things like 'Chocolate' remind me why I loathed this band for years.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 23 July 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

'chocolate' is like the best song

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 23 July 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link

"Never goh-na quit it noh we never goh-na quit it noh we never goh-na quit noh we nev..." *slap!*

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 23 July 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link

'chocolate' is like the best song

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Segunda-feira, 23 de Julho de 2018 20:44 (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

Nourry, Monday, 23 July 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

give it time, turry

k3vin k., Monday, 23 July 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link

No Kevin, the guy who spent years cluttering this thread with repetitive denunciations of this band as the absolute worst thing to happen to recorded music is clearly best placed to now review its discography and sort the wheat from the chaff.

Tim F, Monday, 23 July 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

tim, the 1975 is for everyone

k3vin k., Monday, 23 July 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

I am in earnest — I will not equivocate — I will not excuse — I will not retreat a single inch — AND I WILL BE HEARD.

k3vin k., Monday, 23 July 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

denunciations of this band as the absolute worst thing to happen to recorded music

It wasn't a difficult conclusion to reach based on some of the horrors that are on that first album, particularly when combined with some horrific nails-on-chalkboard vocals and Healy's insufferable personality. That he's blatantly a spoiled brat that had closer connections in the industry than most (let's not pretend he didn't) and has wealthy parents could afford to indulge him are nothing less than facts.

Thankfully, the music and the singing got better on the second album, which is a genuinely great record - at this point maybe even one of the best of the decade, so I clearly can separate the art from the artist if the music is strong enough.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 23 July 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

*that

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 23 July 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

you were wrong & have no credibility itt

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 03:32 (five years ago) link

this is perhaps the only good thread left on ILM and it would be great if it didn't revolve solely around one troll's storyline but you guys do you...

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 July 2018 04:27 (five years ago) link

the debut isn't as good or as fully realised as I like it when you sleep..., and Matty's voice is more annoying on it but there's still a lot to love about it, it's the sort of album where half the album could have been made of lesser band's single hit tracks and then the other half is even better stuff like Menswear and Pressure

ufo, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 04:39 (five years ago) link

the debut is pretty perfect imo in that it feels so minor compared to what has come after it, yet you can easily see the roots sprouting out in all the different directions they'd follow. also there's something fun about hearing them very stripped down at this point.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 July 2018 04:58 (five years ago) link

and the songwriting is just killer across the record

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 July 2018 04:58 (five years ago) link

having one of those nights where their amniotic ambient stuff sounds like the best music ever... menswear, me, head.cars.bending, haunt/bed, so far it's alright, fallingforyou... jesus h

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 July 2018 05:00 (five years ago) link

"heart out" is quickly becoming possibly my favorite song of theirs

k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 July 2018 05:50 (five years ago) link

you got something to saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay why dont you speak it out loud
Instead of living in your HEAD
It's always the saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame why don’t you take your heart out
Instead of living in your HEAD
*sax*

prob my favorite climax of the handful of them on the debut.

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 06:07 (five years ago) link

you were wrong & have no credibility itt

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, July 24, 2018 3:32 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I disagree.

this is perhaps the only good thread left on ILM and it would be great if it didn't revolve solely around one troll's storyline but you guys do you...

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, July 24, 2018 4:27 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'd rather be talking about how good the new material is possibly going to me, but y'know what it's like around here. Clearly I missed the memo where the word "troll" was redefined.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 06:29 (five years ago) link

I actually gave the debut another listen last night - it didn't change my mind. I really love some of the EP tracks, including the ones J0rdan mentioned.

It's quite funny that people are now annoyed that I now like this band but don't make a point of worshipping everything they've ever released.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 06:34 (five years ago) link

*going to be

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 06:35 (five years ago) link

I already thought 'Give Yourself a Try' was great, but the new song is absolutely amazing. Love the Blue Nile nod. Healy is so fucking sultry.

FYI, the deluxe box thing (lp's, cd, books and assorted paraphernalia) of 'ILIWYS' is now up for grabs for just € 40 (down from € 107). That's just € 5 more than the 2LP, ie. a steal.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 08:52 (five years ago) link

Yeah, been pondering that one for a bit.

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 12:26 (five years ago) link

that synth (?) riff that opens ”robbers” sounds just like the hook to “love it if we made it”

k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link

The best possible results you could hope for by mashing up the Dowtown lights beat with the my sharona topline

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link

Haha, good call on My Sharona

Vinnie, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 00:43 (five years ago) link

this is the best band that has ever existed

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 July 2018 03:54 (five years ago) link

that better be the lede for the spin review

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 03:57 (five years ago) link

funny jordan should mention that, no I am not currently watching this full concert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYlp6u5CbKo

k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 July 2018 04:32 (five years ago) link

they play "heart out" and "a change of heart" back to back which is so perfect

k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 July 2018 04:36 (five years ago) link

i can't imagine listening to "heart out" and then not following it immediately with "settle down"

monotony, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 04:47 (five years ago) link

"so far (it's alright)" sounds like dj koze

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 July 2018 06:01 (five years ago) link

That Healy tweet from a few days ago is funny because 'Antichrist' really is one of their best tracks to date and I don't blame the 1975 hardcore for repeatedly badgering them to play it live.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link

would much rather hear Haunt // Bed as far as EP tracks they've never played live

ufo, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

new song is their blue nilest yet

||||||||, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

Ooh, I wonder how long it takes for him to talk about rehab in this one... *clicks*

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link

To be fair, it wasn't him - but six words is going to be a record that's going to be hard to beat.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

it's what the album is about

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 August 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

band talks about things that happened to them in interview shocker

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 August 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link

As much as their music has grown on me, in 2018 "posh boy with a smack addiction goes to rehab in Barbados to end his drug hell" is one of the most tedious/lousiest/boring angles to promote a record. The whole thing gives me 'Used to be in Evil Gazebo' vibes, which is a shame - I'm sure their forthcoming music is going to be very good.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link

thanks for your input

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 August 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link

He excitedly plays me some of A Brief Inquiry on his Mac. The songs variously recall George Michael, John Cale, Chet Baker, Radiohead and Drake.

oh jeez

k3vin k., Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link

where can I go to end my turrican hell

||||||||, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link

Actual hell, iirc.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

Many would call it a protest song, though Healy is dubious. “Hopefully it could be used on a montage for the times, but it’s not going to change the times,” he says. “It doesn't provide a solution.”

I have such low standards for musicians' level of insight into their own work (or capacity to reveal it in interviews) that Matt's generally OTM little statements about his music are always a bit more surprising to me than they should be.

Tim F, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

where can I go to end my turrican hell


zing’s muting function is a+ fyi

maura, Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link

Don’t forget killfile!

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

Or perhaps you could attempt to argue why - in 2018 - it isn't one of the most tedious/lousiest/boring angles to promote a record with.

Christ, not even Damon Albarn circa 13 was this crass.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link

Anyway, one thing I'm looking forward to is seeing how the forthcoming two albums stack up against each other... Will they have two distinct approaches or more like part one and part two? Will people treat it as a Load/Reload or Kid A/Amnesiac and start making their own compilations/ideal tracklistings? How far will they reach stylistically over the two records? Etc.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

i mean everything is pr when you're about to release a record but matty actually went to rehab

i'm still struggling to figure out what you're really complaining about: the nature of profile writing over the past several decades, the nature of promotion over the past several decades, the nature of being a band with an album to promote over the past several decades

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

changing the subject abruptly is definitely the only way turrican admits that he's full of shit

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link

Christ almighty, Brad - if you have to ask, then I suppose you will never know. If the band are as interesting as they say they are, then perhaps they'd be better off talking about the most interesting part - their music. Matt Healy's drug habits are anything but interesting.

Changing the subject abruptly? I gave you an entire three fucking hours, Brad.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link

it's so cliché that he did this thing he actually did, what a wanker!!!!

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link

OTM.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

i nearly had forgotten that you think people get addicted to heroin on purpose, thrilled to be reminded

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link

I guess you would be thrilled to be reminded of something that I never actually said.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link

However, I do look forward to reading what little I can about The 1975's forthcoming music in between paragraphs of a spoiled brat waxing lyrical about his drug habits and the dumb lifestyle choices he makes to colour in his black hole of a personality.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

It's okay, though - I think Billy Corgan is a prize tit as well, and I still like his music.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

i don't understand why you continue to do this when so many people have asked you to stop..... what do you get out of it

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

I'm discussing the promotion/PR of the forthcoming album by The 1975 on a thread about The 1975 on a forum about music.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link

yeah but nobody wants to talk about it with you. what's your fascination with posting in this thread? surely there are other places for you to go

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

this thread is something enjoyable that you make unenjoyable, it's incredibly selfish

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

What's my fascination with posting in this thread? Well, I guess that would have something to do with the fact that I'm looking forward to The 1975's next album and as a result am reading this thread and press surrounding the album.

That people are throwing their toys out of the pram because I have the nerve to like this bands music while thinking their singer is an idiot is not really my problem.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

no you're just a dick lol

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link

Anyway, one thing I'm looking forward to is seeing how the forthcoming two albums stack up against each other... Will they have two distinct approaches or more like part one and part two? Will people treat it as a Load/Reload or Kid A/Amnesiac and start making their own compilations/ideal tracklistings? How far will they reach stylistically over the two records? Etc.

― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, August 2, 2018 9:24 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link

If we could get back to discussing the music rather than the Cult of Matty bawling away, that would be wonderful.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link

you started it!

k3vin k., Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

there are 51 reasons to killfile this asshole and talk about cool stuff like this great band

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

What's my fascination with posting in this thread? Well, I guess that would have something to do with the fact that I'm looking forward to The 1975's next album and as a result am reading this thread and press surrounding the album.

That people are throwing their toys out of the pram because I have the nerve to like this bands music while thinking their singer is an idiot is not really my problem.

― Le Baton Rose (Turrican)

I think there's a chance people are still annoyed because you spent five years trolling this thread and the end of year lists any time they placed about how much you hated them. It's not that you disliked them, it's how you expressed your views over and over again obviously looking for trouble or to get a rise out of their fans. Now it just seems like that even though you've come around to the music, that people can already see the pattern where you're going to bring up how much you hate him as a person every single time. The repetition is tedious and I honestly don't know how you can be bothered with this style of posting all the time.

kitchen person, Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:44 (five years ago) link

If we could get back to discussing the music rather than the Cult of Matty bawling away, that would be wonderful.

― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, August 2, 2018 6:33 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark

there's no new music to talk about, so we're talking about this story, a conversation you're derailing, even though people are pleading with you to stop. you can't just come back when there's a conversation you can actually contribute to? i don't get it.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

I think what people need to do is stop getting aggressive when people say something they don't like about a member of a band they like. This conversation wouldn't have taken the turn it did had this not happened.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:49 (five years ago) link

actually this is simply about people asking you to stop and you insisting that you don't have to, which is technically true but insanely exasperating. so here we are.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link

lads

eris (Ross), Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link

Ironically (and I literally made this very point two hours ago) Matt is actually quite smart and perceptive in his analysis of his songwriting and the interview contains quite a few examples of that.

It's a shame that everyone in this thread other than turrican seems only to want to talk about drugs.

Tim F, Thursday, 2 August 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link

surely it must be possible to dislike a band (I dislike this band, a lot) without being branded a troll

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 2 August 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link

like, if you want a The 1975 Thread For Stans Only (All Others Keep Out) then the title should probably be changed to reflect that

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 2 August 2018 23:03 (five years ago) link

Many would call it a protest song, though Healy is dubious. “Hopefully it could be used on a montage for the times, but it’s not going to change the times,” he says. “It doesn't provide a solution.”

Hmm. This isn't particularly enlightening - I mean, it's pretty much a given that any kind of popular music is going to soundtrack the time in which it was released in some way or another, and Healy wouldn't be the first musician to have ever said anything like this.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 23:07 (five years ago) link

Lol @ u

Tim F, Thursday, 2 August 2018 23:28 (five years ago) link

so track titles and details so far:
I Like America and America Likes Me
I Always Wanna Die Sometimes
It’s Not Living (If It’s Not With You) - "synth-pop anthem"
Mine - the jazz/lounge/swing one
I Couldn’t Be More In Love - "soul power-ballad"
Sincerity is Scary
Be My Mistake - "acoustic ballad"
Jesus Christ 2005 God Bless America

also fantastic to hear that they're planning Notes to be "intimate, nocturnal and cinematic" - their Hats?

ufo, Thursday, 2 August 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link

<slips into westworld host reverie> a whole album of songs like “falling for you” and “haunt // bed” and “undo” and “anobrain” </wakes up on surgical bed>

Tim F, Thursday, 2 August 2018 23:49 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHGvAl9qKxE

enjoying this new single by their labelmate No Rome, co-produced by George and Matty. they've said he contributed in some way to A Brief Enquiry too

ufo, Friday, 3 August 2018 00:15 (five years ago) link

surely it must be possible to dislike a band (I dislike this band, a lot) without being branded a troll


yeah because you’re not a troll lol
surely it must be possible to dislike a band (I dislike this band, a lot) without being branded a troll

J0rdan S., Friday, 3 August 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link

yeah it seems pretty easy to dislike this band without being a troll

i’m not even fucking defending matty ffs i’m just saying getting mad about a profile for bringing up his heroin addiction when he was actually addicted to heroin is fucking dumb

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:37 (five years ago) link

but then again turrican recently was a huge shithead about this re: demi lovato so i’m like NOT SURPRISED

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:38 (five years ago) link

like, if you want a The 1975 Thread For Stans Only (All Others Keep Out) then the title should probably be changed to reflect that

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 2, 2018 4:03 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

?? we’re reacting to a chronically shitty poster

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:38 (five years ago) link

who has trolled this thread for years

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:44 (five years ago) link

god i’m never talking about this band here again christ

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:49 (five years ago) link

noooooooOOOOOOO what have i done

J0rdan S., Friday, 3 August 2018 02:00 (five years ago) link

brad wouldnt do that to us

k3vin k., Friday, 3 August 2018 02:01 (five years ago) link

I don't know the comprehensive history of who is and who is not a troll, this is just my reaction based on how things appear in the last series of posts

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 3 August 2018 02:34 (five years ago) link

turrican is a troll forever, always

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 August 2018 02:43 (five years ago) link

How it breaks down:

Katherine: Dislikes this band / is not a troll

Turrican: Likes this band / is a troll

Tim F, Friday, 3 August 2018 02:59 (five years ago) link

“Stranded in the thread dump / Branded a troll...”

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Z-INHuIAk7E/UduQUOwz87I/AAAAAAAAAYA/4Lsl6NqPflY/s1600/stranded.jpg

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 3 August 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link

anyway

"I’m not very good in the moment. The past is like this vague, hazy, beautiful memory, and the future is this vague uncertainty, and there seems to be this clinical spotlight on the present, where I don’t get to experience those things that I romanticize either side of it."

i connect with this quote a lot... been talking to my therapist about how much trouble i have living in/enjoying the moment

J0rdan S., Friday, 3 August 2018 04:15 (five years ago) link

insofar as there's some thread of nervous anxiety threading thru their music (maybe im projecting lol) i find this quote to be very enlightening about matty's mind

J0rdan S., Friday, 3 August 2018 04:16 (five years ago) link

also fantastic to hear that they're planning Notes to be "intimate, nocturnal and cinematic" - their Hats?

― ufo, Thursday, August 2, 2018 11:29 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<slips into westworld host reverie> a whole album of songs like “falling for you” and “haunt // bed” and “undo” and “anobrain” </wakes up on surgical bed>

― Tim F, Thursday, August 2, 2018 11:49 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm not a fan of Hats, but if the band end up making an album like what Tim describes then it'd be superb.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 3 August 2018 06:37 (five years ago) link

I'm glad we're finally talking about music again rather than getting upset that someone who once hated your band now likes your band, or getting upset that someone likes certain parts of the discography but not others, or getting upset because someone likes the music but doesn't think highly of the person who made it.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 3 August 2018 06:47 (five years ago) link

oh my god can you stop

bunny slopes, Friday, 3 August 2018 07:31 (five years ago) link

i connect with this quote a lot... been talking to my therapist about how much trouble i have living in/enjoying the moment

― J0rdan S., Friday, August 3, 2018 12:15 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah I feel you. there is a lot in that interview that resonates with me

k3vin k., Friday, 3 August 2018 13:41 (five years ago) link

Turrican should just never post about drugs. I actually enjoy his presence here personally otherwise

eris (Ross), Friday, 3 August 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link

Reading his simplified opinions on drugs is way more boring than anything any band member says, and far more tedious. Before you try to dog me for drugs as well mate, I’m 5 weeks clean and going strong

eris (Ross), Friday, 3 August 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link

I'd love to ask your man Healy what he made of his Dad's singing and dressing up in Tickle On The Tum. Must have been an influence on him of sorts. It was great back in the day seeing someone known for starring at prime-time as a hard guy on a building site (Auf Wiedersehen Pet, a bloody HUGE show at the time too) playing second fiddle to Ralph McTell and generally clowning around in a daytime kid's show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S868dkSA1aE

piscesx, Friday, 3 August 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link

https://www.readdork.com/news/the-next-single-from-the-1975-will-be-called-tootimetootimetootime-and-its-out-next-week

TOOTIMETOOTIMETOOTIME coming August 15th, with a video, and apparently it's the tropical house one!

ufo, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link

I'm excited but the title makes my head hurt

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link

is it 15th August yet??

Nourry, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 13:31 (five years ago) link

I swear that I only called her one time
Maybe it was two times?
I don’t think it was three times
It can’t be more than four times
I think we need to rewind
You text that boy sometimes!
Must be more than three times!
I didn’t mean to too time you

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Healy can read the phonebook for all I care, both singles so far have been brilliant and I can't wait for this.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link

Followed by the remix 'TOMETOYOUTOMETOYOU (Dedicated to the memory of Barry Chuckle)', I assume!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link

is it 15th August yet??

YES.

toby, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link

This is Drake-level, and I don't mean that in any kind of nice way.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

It's a departure from the first two, but I like it.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

it's a bit owl city

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

i think i like it better than "the sound"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

it does kinda sound like "cheerleader" tho lol

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

but it's a pretty direct branch off some of the other stuff they've done... not incredibly dissimilar from i.e. "m.o.n.e.y."

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link

it feels a lot more monochromatic / less dynamic than something like "The Sound." I feel like it yearns for some more content to go with that groove, but that might just be me and my disinterest in this sorta jam

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link

yeah the comparisons aren't off but i feel like those two tracks both capitalize on space in a way this doesn't, "m.o.n.e.y." w the vocal syncopation, "the sound" w the prechorus swings out to snap back in at the chorus

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link

*swinging

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link

seems kind of bad, when dorian said they were channeling drake i wasn’t imagining trop house drake of a few years ago... but we already know most of the rest of the album won’t be like this so im not stressed . plus it’ll prob grow on me

flopson, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link

uh y'all are on crack, this bangs

k3vin k., Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

feels like it's a minute and a half, just kind of floats along, fun little song

k3vin k., Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

closest antecedent of theirs to my ears is probably "so far (it's alright)"

k3vin k., Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

I admittedly don't listen to a lot of drake, but...drake??

k3vin k., Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link

the point about space is well taken but i think this is awesome anyway

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link

Love how you all did everything but actually link the song. :-D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9kT5U2izfc

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link

i can see the Drake comparison in terms of the "top line" which is. three. 🎵 notes. 🎶. just those 🎵 three notes. on a slightly different order, and then again. 🎶

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

this is a little underwhelming, it's a good starting point for something but the killer hook I was expecting never appears and it just floats along without really going anywhere. the lyrics are also pretty bad and not in an endearingly ridiculous way either

ufo, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 23:37 (five years ago) link

I'm a little tipsy and it's pretty early so I don't want to say anything I'm going to regret but.......this song is really good, among their very best

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 August 2018 03:17 (five years ago) link

where are deej tim and brad

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 August 2018 03:26 (five years ago) link

christ, this is the best band in the world

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 August 2018 03:28 (five years ago) link

there was a recent episode of The Ringer's On Shuffle podcast that brought in the Switched On Pop guys (who i'm usually eh on but felt a lot looser here) and they ended up talking a lot about the sort of downfall of dynamism in pop tracks (the rise of chill), and how the metric for quality is a little harder to pick out because of that.

this feels like a track that exploits its lack of dynamic shifts in a really good way (lots of little sonic details and tiny tonal shifts). so i guess i find the drake comparisons understandable but nowhere near as negative as some people are framing it—this is earworm drake, not unmemorable hookless drake.

austinb, Thursday, 16 August 2018 03:37 (five years ago) link

the youtube video hasn't been made available in Australia :-/

Tim F, Thursday, 16 August 2018 06:49 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTT1qbKMuo8

this one works in Australia

ufo, Thursday, 16 August 2018 07:26 (five years ago) link

this song is really good, among their very best

― k3vin k., Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:17 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heart u k3v but might this be (tipsy?) hyperbole?

the first two new songs set an impossibly high bar, it's understandable they can't keep that up. this is very much a throwaway, a b-side song though. which is ok.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 16 August 2018 08:06 (five years ago) link

the lyrics here are 100% fuckboi but i'm extremely into the sound design and it's probably the single i've enjoyed the most from this era so far

monotony, Thursday, 16 August 2018 08:19 (five years ago) link

xps to austinb, will give that a listen! track's growing on me a bit, i dig how it feels like a fluttering that ends up stuck in a groove for most of it (the color-switching video helps accentuate that probably)

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 16 August 2018 08:52 (five years ago) link

Okay I think this is great.

It’s “throwaway” but deliberately so, the whole point is the layering which is much more intricate than your typical tropical track.

Basically i’m suspecting it will be the third album’s “Talk!”

Tim F, Thursday, 16 August 2018 09:24 (five years ago) link

heart u k3v but might this be (tipsy?) hyperbole?

the first two new songs set an impossibly high bar, it's understandable they can't keep that up. this is very much a throwaway, a b-side song though. which is ok.

― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:06 AM (three hours ago)

haha def wasn't the tipsiness, I'm quite enamored. I must have played it 20 times already. I'm just so impressed by how well they're able to pull off all these different styles

I get the "throwaway" comment but I don't see it that way at all. an album track, maybe -- but something tells me this is going to sound great in album context

haven't really paid much attention to the lyrics yet, but the lyrics seem like not the point of this song

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 August 2018 11:54 (five years ago) link

but something tells me this is going to sound great in album context

I do not doubt this! I think it will, too. As a single, or singled out track, it feels a bit slight to me. But I'm already warming to it so :)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 16 August 2018 12:00 (five years ago) link

We weren't uh fond of "Love It If We Made It":

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=26097

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 12:00 (five years ago) link

dunno Alfred - looks pretty split!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 August 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link

Matty said that TOOTIME is built around a sped up loop from their collaborative track with No Rome "Narcissist" (that's not out yet) so it'll be interesting to hear the original version of the groove

ufo, Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

K4th3rin3 St 4s4ph: “We Didn’t Start the Fire” as told by dudes who hilariously quote “grab ’em by the pussy” on their Tinder profile.


Yeesh katherine you don’t see how these read might be in incredibly bad faith?

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

Like what in the tone of this song makes you think it’s some sort of winking indulgence in “self-aware” misogyny and not, like, a harrowing look at the depressing state of the world?

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link

yeah I don’t even know where to start with that blurb

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

but as jordan has said let’s make this thread more about the music and less about the various trolls

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

haha i only consider this thread to have one troll... i never said there could be no dissenting opinions. just that turrican is exhausting, useless and needlessly annoying itt.

i do think katherine severely misreads the song and the band's actual fanbase tho

J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link

What are you talking about? I've made absolutely no comment on this new track, or any new track from the forthcoming record. I'm waiting to hear the tracks for the first time in the context of the LP.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link

Everyone into the pool!

imago, Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link

Sure, I have my opinions on their lead singer, and I'm entitled to 'em.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

Now, Jordan... you'll notice that I didn't actually feel the need to post anything until you brought me into the discussion - in which case, if you don't like the effects... don't produce the cause!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

i do think katherine severely misreads the song and the band's actual fanbase tho

― J0rdan S., Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:12 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


i think this problem has become more pronounced on twitter (going back to tumblr maybe) but there's a definite sense to me that people let who they see on twitter liking something shape their impression of what kind of people like something even if its wholly unrepresentative

not saying that's what's happening w/ katherine per se but the way you phrased this reminded me of this point ... i find it super frustrating but also occasionally funny

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

that is absolutely a real phenomenon

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link

yeah the 1975's fanbase is the a pop fanbase.... it's mostly younger people, girls especially. at least at the shows i've seen.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 August 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

there is a list of men I ever want to hear repeat anything from the Billy Bush tape, ironically or not, and that list has zero people on it

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link

also good to see I'm officially a troll for disliking a song

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link

basically, my stance is this, so I guess you can go ahead and call Iain a troll too, as well as the billions of people on earth who have committed the obvious bad faith malice of not liking a song: If you’re singing “poison me daddy” and “fuck your feelings” as slogans for satire, you’re still singing “poison me daddy” and “fuck your feelings” as slogans.

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link

also, please inform me where I have said or implied anything about the band's fanbase? having young and/or female fans does not insulate an artist from being or presenting as an insufferable asshole, and having young and/or female fans does not mean that critics are obliged to only say positive things about a bad record. if anything I like those fans more, because they have not dragged me into a thread calling me a troll on a Thursday afternoon I was previously enjoying.

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link

also good to see I'm officially a troll for disliking a song

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:19 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

when ONE person said this another immediately defended you, no one actually thinks you're a troll although i do think you have a weirdly bad faith reading of anyone who doesnt share your opinions

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link

basically, my stance is this, so I guess you can go ahead and call Iain a troll too, as well as the billions of people on earth who have committed the obvious bad faith malice of not liking a song: If you’re singing “poison me daddy” and “fuck your feelings” as slogans for satire, you’re still singing “poison me daddy” and “fuck your feelings” as slogans.

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:28 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is an insane expectation of art that I can't imagine you would hold to many of the artists you enjoy

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link

also, please inform me where I have said or implied anything about the band's fanbase? having young and/or female fans does not insulate an artist from being or presenting as an insufferable asshole, and having young and/or female fans does not mean that critics are obliged to only say positive things about a bad record. if anything I like those fans more, because they have not dragged me into a thread calling me a troll on a Thursday afternoon I was previously enjoying.

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:46 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not saying that's what's happening w/ katherine per se but the way you phrased this reminded me of this point ... i find it super frustrating but also occasionally funny

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:25 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link

the bad faith readings extend to the band's fanbase itt apparently

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link

someone posts let’s make this thread more about the music and less about the various trolls, about a review I posted on an entirely different website, on a thread I have deliberately not been posting in, and yet I'm the one who's a troll?

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:58 (five years ago) link

katherine is awesome, cmon lads.

Ross, Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

there is a list of men I ever want to hear repeat anything from the Billy Bush tape, ironically or not, and that list has zero people on it

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:19 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

reading this song as flat edgy "irony" misunderstands its effect imo .... the song is a harrowing feeling of being overwhelmed by disgusting popular culture mixed w politics & the current condition, & it captures that feeling in song, i don't think its supposed to be 'ironic', he is not being a mouthpiece for his own point of view (sincere or ironic), he is creating an artistic effect that is reminiscent of being bombarded with fucked up headlines & the entire subtext is "the world feels fucked and the feelings it creates are difficult to wrap your head around but this approximates the feeling" imo

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link

someone posts let’s make this thread more about the music and less about the various trolls, about a review I posted on an entirely different website, on a thread I have deliberately not been posting in, and yet I'm the one who's a troll?

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:58 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

literally only kevin, who is obsessed w this band to a near hyperbolic extreme, called you a troll & jordan immediately defended you

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:01 (five years ago) link

this is an insane expectation of art that I can't imagine you would hold to many of the artists you enjoy

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:56 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no, it really isn't? that's like saying it's "insane" to not want to drink a gallon of sewage every morning. even if the sewage is actually shat out in some kind of elaborate performance-art attempt to highlight the failures and corruption of the sanitation system, drinking it still means drinking a gallon of sewage.

and my favorite artists generally are not drenched in so much irony poisoning that it is impossible to distinguish their "ironic" quoting of Donald Trump from sincere quoting of Donald Trump. this is very easy to avoid in art!

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link

but as jordan has said let’s make this thread more about the music and less about the various trolls

― k3vin k., Thursday, August 16, 2018 2:09 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

out of respect I will amend from “the various trolls” to “those who refuse to discuss the music in good faith”

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

"bad faith" does not mean "disliking a song that I like"

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link

like, my idea of "bad faith" is calling someone's opinion of a song -- on an entirely different website! -- "insane." it is a perfectly reasonable expectation that one's "satire" do more than just repeat the thing it is satirizing. it's a bare minimum expectation, in fact. and an even more reasonable thing is to not want to listen to, or read, watch, etc. art that does not do so.

also, this kind of thing is seriously incredibly easy to avoid in music. the only artist I can think of who is irony-poisoned to such an extreme degree is Father John Misty, and I don't go out of my way to listen to him either, for the same reasons. and the only thing I can think of that's a song I actually listen to is Kristin Hersh quoting some nihilist pamphlet she was handed in the intro to "Hate My Way." but that still isn't an example, because A) the pamphlet is just silly more than anything, and doesn't quote the equivalent of the Billy Bush tape, and B) she immediately distances herself from it in line one of the song proper ("I make you into a song -- I can't rise above the church"), then proceeds to write an actual song. and that song is good, unlike this one.

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link

what i am saying is insane is specifically this part: "if you’re singing “poison me daddy” and “fuck your feelings” as slogans for satire, you’re still singing “poison me daddy” and “fuck your feelings” as slogans."

the idea that context doesn't shift meaning, that an artist cant repurpose these slogans ... means that I can't read YOUR POST about them as anything but a slogan... why is the artist not allowed the leeway to recontextualize those statements, but its fine for you to do so on ILX?

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

that isn't even my review

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

this is not about 'your opinion' of a song, but a method of reading art that isn't so straightjacketed by arbitrary rules that it cant allow for other possible interpretations

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link

that isn't even my review

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:22 PM (twenty-seven seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

did i misread that you're agreeing with it?

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link

"irony poisoned" again i don't think this is irony!

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

no, but I didn't misread that I'm the one who's being called insane over it

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

i do wonder sometimes how nirvana's "polly" would be interpreted in a discourse like the present one

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

no, but I didn't misread that I'm the one who's being called insane over it

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:24 PM (fifty-nine seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im sorry for using the word 'insane' which i know has such a loaded gendered whatever, but if you prefer, reading that kind of thing makes me insane, because it's again a bad faith reading of the song, which i don't think is at all 'ironic'

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

oh cool, so this is just another thinly disguised rant about social justice warriors ruining the pure, unsullied music discussion of the past

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

???? how did you take that from this?

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

because every dog in the office has been barking for the past hour at this: i think this problem has become more pronounced on twitter (going back to tumblr maybe) but

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link

yes i definitely think 1990s music discourse was 'unsullied'

this is a good example of what i mean by bad faith readings, though

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

whenever somebody complains about "twitter" or "tumblr" ruining something it is almost always a dog-whistle

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

(specifically talking in terms of how "toxic" or "unreasonable" etc. they are, not in terms of their actual problem with harassment, etc.)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

because every dog in the office has been barking for the past hour at this: i think this problem has become more pronounced on twitter (going back to tumblr maybe) but

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:27 PM (seventeen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pointing out that people get caught up in myopic algorithmic circles that feed their preferred pov back at them is not a jeremiad about social justice warriors; its simply pointing out that ppl project broader trends onto their immediate social environment, which becomes even more problematic when that environment is shaped by algorithms

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

oh, so it's a rant about algorithms instead

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

hmmm calling it a 'rant' is a dogwhistle...you're trying to associate me with dennis miller

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link

I had to google who that was, so no

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link

i was just joking

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

as far as nirvana's "polly," kurt cobain said this about the way (part of) his audience interpreted the song: "Last year, a girl was raped by two wastes of sperm and eggs while they sang the lyrics to our song "Polly". I have a hard time carrying on knowing there are plankton like that in our audience."

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

that was, for what it's worth, a sincere post, not a defense of how the song was received back then vs now

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link

I haven't heard this song but this conversation makes me think about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCFAzPl1QmE

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

except now "grab em by the pussy" is Joe Piscopo

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

i def have a kneejerk response to the idea that art needs to pander to the fact that a bunch of idiots are going to interpret it the 'wrong way'

like someone telling kendrick not to advocate drinking alcohol in 'swimming pools' or something

'polly' is an especially nutso version of this though... i mean i think the song is pretty important snapshot of an era and message, but i also can't imagine it coming out the same way today for reasons that totally make sense...its a super weird song

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link

the idea that context doesn't shift meaning, that an artist cant repurpose these slogans

Those things aren't really out there as slogans (maybe "fuck your feelings", less so any of the other worst lines) the point is that they're repurposing them as slogans. Appropriately enough I'd suggest reading that line of the review in the context of the one afterwards. I don't think that you can't ever say terrible things as satire, just that it's hard for the benefits of seeking out and quoting not-particularly-mainstream awfulness to outweigh the costs.

Iain Mew (if), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link

Whether the song succeeds in its aim (which I think Deej successfully captures - though I'd add a nuance below) strikes me as an almost textbook example of a matter about which reasonable minds may differ.

It's not "bad faith" to fall on the "I don't like it" side. But I see why these discussions get heated. As with a lot of "does this work?" questions about music, the reason people can't see eye to eye or even acknowledge room for more than one answer is that they start with a disagreement about what the song is trying to do, with dislikers seeking to reduce or flatten the complexity of the exercise (this is just <insert>"). "An ironic slogan is still a slogan" starts with a reductive reading (and I use that word non-pejoratively) and then seeks to reduce it further. The implication is that there is nothing more to see, whatever more the likers are seeing is an illusion, or something they're putting there. And this in turn implies something about the music's audience even if that was never the speaker's intention, or they hadn't followed the line of reasoning that far. It is never just "about the music".

Of course the flipside problem is that the reductive reading is usually at least half-correct about something going on, which is difficult to acknowledge when everyone's guns drawn at 20 paces (and which, again, see below).

This all interests me mostly because I used to apply the above reductive frame a lot and don't do so much anymore, not because I think it's inappropriate but because at some point I stopped viscerally disliking almost any music (for unknown reasons), and at that point I'm less likely to question the music's aims even if I'm indifferent to the outcome. The sheer intensity of the binary positions on the Singles Jukebox review page is intriguing to me in a cultural tourism sense.

"reading this song as flat edgy "irony" misunderstands its effect imo .... the song is a harrowing feeling of being overwhelmed by disgusting popular culture mixed w politics & the current condition, & it captures that feeling in song, i don't think its supposed to be 'ironic', he is not being a mouthpiece for his own point of view (sincere or ironic), he is creating an artistic effect that is reminiscent of being bombarded with fucked up headlines & the entire subtext is "the world feels fucked and the feelings it creates are difficult to wrap your head around but this approximates the feeling" imo"

The additional thing I'd say is that I think there is a sense in which Katherine and the reviewer (Iain?) she is quoting are correct in saying "ironic slogans are still slogans": for me, one of the things that this song is about is the idea that contemporary society reduces the world to a permanent state of "We Didn't Start The Fire" - and whether Matt is a mouthpiece for the phrases in the lyrics or not is actually complex question. In my view the song is not merely about being overwhelmed by disgusting popular culture and current politics, but also about being implicated by them, about the fact that you cannot participate in popular culture while also holding yourself apart from all the toxic stuff and say "but I am not responsible for that". So you could say of the criticism "ironic slogans are still slogans", "yes, that is precisely what this song is about".

Tim F, Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link

and I have a kneejerk response to the idea that just because someone is attempting social commentary, I am obliged to find it successful, or something I want to listen to, or that I am unreasonable or operating in bad faith if I in fact dislike it. particularly when it involves a man glibly singing the words of trump bragging about getting away with sexual assault — by these standards, that alex jones to the music thing of bon iver meme is also great music.

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link

I've been working on a theory that the ALWAYS ONLINE class of musicians who let internet sewage into their art can be split into "posters" and "lurkers"

Posters
Grimes
Tyler the Creator
Azealia Banks
Kitty
Weezer

Lurkers
Death Grips
The 1975
Sophie
Charli XCX
Oneohtrix Point Never

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link

Actually, scratch Banks from that, but she is very much a poster

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link

I also have a kneejerk response to a bunch of men telling me what the appropriate way to feel about other men glibly quoting that sexual assault tape is — and I haven’t even touched the “suffocate the black men” line

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link

That would be a great article actually.

Tim F, Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

Those things aren't really out there as slogans (maybe "fuck your feelings", less so any of the other worst lines) the point is that they're repurposing them as slogans. Appropriately enough I'd suggest reading that line of the review in the context of the one afterwards. I don't think that you can't ever say terrible things as satire, just that it's hard for the benefits of seeking out and quoting not-particularly-mainstream awfulness to outweigh the costs.

― Iain Mew (if), Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:51 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the entire point is that the awfulness IS mainstream!

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link

Banksy's done it again

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link

I also have a kneejerk response to a bunch of men telling me what the appropriate way to feel about other men glibly quoting that sexual assault tape is — and I haven’t even touched the “suffocate the black men” line

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:56 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i havent told you how to feel about anything?? im defending other possible interpretations, and arguing that your interpretation is coming from a place of misunderstanding what it's attempting in the first place... you can draw the exact same conclusion (ie that it fails at doing what I think it's aiming for) but it seems like you're denying the *very possibility* of other interpretations

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link

like, how do you respond to an argument that it's not attempting irony? you just seem to reassert that, actually, it is attempting irony

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

The vaporwave bridge, these dudes are the /b/lue nile

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

or you acknowledge that maybe it is, in fact, attempting irony, i.e. not do the very thing you are accusing me of

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

like the fact that it supposedly isn’t, in this thread, is being taken as such a given that anyone who disagrees is obviously a troll/not in good faith

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link

thanks kevin ... until the end of time katherine is going to keep arguing that everyone thinks she's a troll

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:15 (five years ago) link

i dont think you're a troll, but you definitely remind me of eeyore

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link

there wouldn’t be a need to argue it were it not said, repeatedly and unsolicitedly

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

anyway I hope none of you ever post in that "why don't women post on ILX" thread because this is a perfect example of why

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link

hmm

maura, Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link

seems like you guys are hardening your positions based on miscommunication

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

sorry, cheap joke

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link

tim f otm

Ross, Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

my position is entirely based on being dragged, by name and Googleably, into a thread that I did not ask or want to be dragged into, over a blurb I wrote for a different website. and then, because I happened to think the song is a bad song, I get called a troll, insane, and listening/posting in bad faith because I think this is a bad song, unlistenable and cluttered as a piece of music, and toxic irony poisoning as a lyric, and that I would rather drown myself in a pool of acid than listen to men glibly quote the Billy Bush tape, "satire" or not. and then a bunch of dudes yell at me some more over that.

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

i think yer dope katherine fwiw, fuck this drivel

Ross, Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

i didnt call you insane, ftr... i said a particular argument that you were quoting was insane, then backpedaled bc it seemed to make you upset & said that if you prefer, to assume i said it made me feel insane

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link

(I also can't help but note that six other writers also disliked this song for largely the same reasons, yet I'm expected to believe that this interpretation is bad faith and unreasonable, because ???)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link

the reason i kept saying 'bad faith' is bc any time someone said anything that could be remotely interpreted as a personal dig you attach yourself to like its your personal brand so as to appear maximally persecuted

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:38 (five years ago) link

and if i sound mean right now, im legit sorry, bc im really not!! wanting to pick on you, and i actually do appreciate contributions of yours to many conversations, i just struggle w this concept of "toxic irony poisoning"

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link

that post you just made is a perfect example of bad faith

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link

this band isn't particularly ironic imo. can i be threadbanned from my own thread now

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link

haven't liked any songs so far from what is presumably their upcoming album

dyl, Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link

i dont think you're an insane troll; that's never been the gist of anyone's real argument

i think the interpretive framework you've brought to this song difficult to digest bc it doesn't reflect my experience of the record, irrespective of the record's quality as a piece of art

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link

"reading this song as flat edgy "irony" misunderstands its effect imo .... the song is a harrowing feeling of being overwhelmed by disgusting popular culture mixed w politics & the current condition, & it captures that feeling in song, i don't think its supposed to be 'ironic', he is not being a mouthpiece for his own point of view (sincere or ironic), he is creating an artistic effect that is reminiscent of being bombarded with fucked up headlines & the entire subtext is "the world feels fucked and the feelings it creates are difficult to wrap your head around but this approximates the feeling" imo"

The additional thing I'd say is that I think there is a sense in which Katherine and the reviewer (Iain?) she is quoting are correct in saying "ironic slogans are still slogans": for me, one of the things that this song is about is the idea that contemporary society reduces the world to a permanent state of "We Didn't Start The Fire" - and whether Matt is a mouthpiece for the phrases in the lyrics or not is actually complex question. In my view the song is not merely about being overwhelmed by disgusting popular culture and current politics, but also about being implicated by them, about the fact that you cannot participate in popular culture while also holding yourself apart from all the toxic stuff and say "but I am not responsible for that". So you could say of the criticism "ironic slogans are still slogans", "yes, that is precisely what this song is about".

― Tim F, Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:52 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

really well said tim, thank you

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:44 (five years ago) link

except that the point of "ironic slogans are still slogans" is that regardless of how they are meant, I still have to listen to them

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

the framing tim is describing is not 'irony,' though

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:50 (five years ago) link

if there's an interpretation of "poison me daddy" that isn't ironic I'd sure love to hear it

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link

(which was sarcasm, I would not in fact love to hear it)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link

and I have a kneejerk response to the idea that just because someone is attempting social commentary, I am obliged to find it successful, or something I want to listen to, or that I am unreasonable or operating in bad faith if I in fact dislike it. particularly when it involves a man glibly singing the words of trump bragging about getting away with sexual assault — by these standards, that alex jones to the music thing of bon iver meme is also great music.

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:54 PM (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no, you are expected to engage and assume good faith

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link

I didn't ask to engage

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link

once again, I would have been perfectly happy never talking about this band that I dislike to a bunch of stans, but I made the mistake of reviewing it as part of my regular reviews cycle on an entirely different website

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link

if there's an interpretation of "poison me daddy" that isn't ironic I'd sure love to hear it

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:51 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why is 'poison me daddy' objectionable to you again

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link

because it's obnoxious

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link

appropriates and kinkshames the poison culture depicted in the film ‘The Phantom Thread’

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link

there's lots of weird assumptions throughout the jukebox blurbs... the idea that healy "finds joy in crassly exploiting tragedy," idk just seems like people are bringing lots of baggage to bear here. also lots of weird projection that to me seems derived from the fact that a lot of writers nowadays have trouble seeing the world outside of the internet... i.e. multiple invocations of the phrase "hot takes," which to 98% of the people who will hear this song/band is completely meaningless and not a useful/informative concept at all. but this is why most criticism sucks nowadays. iain's blurb basically admits that he can't enjoy the song because he spends too much time online -- this is not the band's fault! (also btw something they write about frequently with both insight and wit). i would encourage ppl who find their enjoyment of art to be effected by how much time they spend on twitter to quit using it. it's not worth it.

but i can't say i'm completely athwart from katherine... the emotional crescendo of the song is kicked off by "i moved on her like a bitch" and it's not something i personally scream along to at the top of my lungs for obvious reasons. and of course the band exists to attract divisiveness, their every move is almost lab-created to bait a certain segment of the population into calling bullshit on them, so that a lot of people (at least on singles jukebox) are calling bullshit on this song of all songs is not very surprising.

but the idea that the song is ironic in any way is funny to me... i don't find it irony poisoned at all, in fact the opposite, and to me reading irony poisoning into it is evidence of one's own fatal dosage. healy has said as much about cynicism/sincerity when it comes to this album & of course no one is forced to believe him but i buy the performance of the song as earnest and pained, conveying suffocation and mania but also a sort of desperately resigned hope that well maybe we will just happen to make it through all this. it me baby.

and i guess as far as the more bait-y aspects of the song -- invoking lil peep, trump, kanye etc -- i find that stuff to be tempered by what i think is rather well rendered social commentary in the format of pop music, especially contemporarily. i'm interested in why katherine is stuck on the "suffocate the black men" line... the full lyric is "selling melanin and then suffocate the black men / start with misdemeanors and we'll make a business out of it"... personally i find it to be pretty efficient and effective songwriting about america's relationship to black people and culture. i'm ok with pop music addressing & indicting private prisons! the lyric "the war has been incited and guess what you're all invited / and you're famous, modernity has failed us" to me is another sober tempering of the more theatrical political provocations elsewhere in the song -- it's a completely accurate reading of modern society to me & a more literal but also still subtle enough (to me) invoking of a general sense of helplessness that, again imo, resonates generationally.

so anyway i think this is one of the only political resonant pieces of art in any medium in the last two years. that it's a mix of ridiculousness and seriousness is what makes this band churn, and thus what explains where the majority of this thread falls on it in comparison to interlopers. but i love it so.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link

well "poison me daddy" is def ironic but it's also funny

J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

but you know as it pertains to "poison me daddy" the guy was actually a heroin addict & i choose to read the lyric as a sly little commentary on the prescription opiate industry. or maybe it's about feeling like you must be strapped into the news. idk. i like that lyric a lot.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 August 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link

as far as the "suffocate the black men" line, because that verse starts "we're fucking in a car... saying controversial things for the hell of it" and never switches tense off the "we." so the speaker ends up, essentially, role-playing the aforementioned private prison dude, in a context that sure seems celebratory, or ironically celebratory, and also just mentioned saying controversial things for the hell of it.

I don't think this is malicious, per se -- I think it's just lazy, possibly unedited songwriting. and the laziness would be bad enough on its own, but in this case it's a white dude play-acting someone bragging about suffocating black men. like, if you're going to take on this particular subject matter then you should probably use some amount of care and thought to make sure you're not inadvertently celebrating it.

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link

one person's "play acting someone bragging about suffocating black men" is another person's acknowledgement of complicity

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link

i can see how someone would find it jarring out of context or hearing people sing along with it, or dislike it for that reason, and that's a completely legitimate reaction; i just stumble at the point where someone would argue that's the effect of the song when understood in full, when the lyrics are laid out, when someone hears the effect of the whole song

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link

i cant help but feel condescended to when im told im supposed to dislike this, like i cant make the cognitive leaps required without someone holding my hand to say (and it's bad that society is like this)

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link

I'm not saying anyone is "supposed" to dislike it, but I am getting the opposite impression from this thread in general

xp -- the "crassly exploiting tragedy" line I took to be a reference to the line in "Give Yourself a Try" about a fan committing suicide

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link

it def feels like an implicit judgement of anyone who might interpret it this way when you're arguing that a 'slogan is a slogan' & there could not possibly be any kind of mitigating context

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2018 23:35 (five years ago) link

i think to even find any inadvertent celebration in that line to be a very classic example of reading in *coughs up enormous fur ball* bad faith

to me the narrator's POV switches every bar -- first from that of a junkie (i think the "saying controversial things just for the hell of it" line heavily implies that healy, though a junkie, is not talking about himself but instead a specific sort of disaffected youth); then to both a more general and then specific rendering of white profiteers (i read "selling melanin" to not be literal in the sense of i.e. slavery but more of a commentary on how black culture is still mostly subservient to white capitalism, which leads into the more literal application of that theory as it pertains to private prisons); then to just like the every day citizen who is having their world both personally and generally being cleaved apart by social media; and then to someone in a specific current day political position who might say "truth is only hearsay". at no point personally do i ever read any celebration into any of these POVs, intentional or otherwise.

i do adore this band more than almost anything so maybe i'm willing to give healy a long leash, but that's how i break it down to an extent. i just think it's really really good political pop songwriting.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 August 2018 23:38 (five years ago) link

More like Maga Healy

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 16 August 2018 23:40 (five years ago) link

for approximately the millionth time, what I meant when I said I agreed with that line is that no matter what one means when they quote “I moved on her like a bitch,” they are still quoting it. (I almost put in my blurb how this does the same thing as “Royals,” in that even though you’re singing a bunch of brand names to criticize them, you are still deploying them to create a catchy hook — I left it out because it seemed tacked on and also I can’t remember where/if I read it somewhere, but it’s having your cake and eating it.)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 16 August 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link

I think Katherine’s take is fair even if I have a different one.

I do think the opening line is not intended to be a frame for the rest of the song but Jordan’s excellent post above explains that better than I could I think.

Tim F, Thursday, 16 August 2018 23:48 (five years ago) link

As in, I understand considering this song to be trying to have its cake and eat it too.

Tim F, Thursday, 16 August 2018 23:49 (five years ago) link

can we go back to never mentioning me in this thread and my never having to think about this terrible band again

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 00:04 (five years ago) link

the only thing I have to say re: "poison me daddy" it that it makes me think of all the "ironic" (but not actually that ironic because the future is bleak and terrifying) "I want to die" / suicide memes. I find the irony level tough to gauge as a result.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 17 August 2018 00:17 (five years ago) link

that + milo

lowercase (eric), Friday, 17 August 2018 00:19 (five years ago) link

jordan makes a good point that the ambitiousness -- and temerity -- of the song certainly invite polarized responses, and someone feeling strongly enough about the song to give it a considered pan seems totally fair to me. ultimately I think such a critique needs to grapple with the many legitimate readings of the song to be successful, something I have not tbh seen put forth yet

an issue I have with the "a slogan is still a slogan" line of thought is that its logical extension would seem to render illegitimate on its face all sorts of other kinds of physical art that make use of instruments of, say, capitalism, as a means of a broader critique. irony can be a powerful tool (if used thoughtfully!) in just about any form of art

(btw as a side note clearly this song is ironic -- I think people itt have been using "ironic" to mean something closer to...carelessness or sarcasm?)

k3vin k., Friday, 17 August 2018 00:27 (five years ago) link

Nah I think it occasionally or judiciously deploys irony but the effect is more like a pastiche of samples utilized to create unstable meanings thru contrast, calling the whole thingironic though is way way off imo

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 17 August 2018 00:31 (five years ago) link

I like many 1975 songs but the last song we reviewed just sounds like a sonic mess, regardless of the lyrics.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 August 2018 00:35 (five years ago) link

ok sure calling the entire song ironic is maybe needlessly imprecise, but certainly many parts of it, particularly the parts generating the most controversy, are ironic in the literal sense

the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

k3vin k., Friday, 17 August 2018 00:38 (five years ago) link

I don’t think that’s what they’re doing in any of those examples

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 17 August 2018 00:40 (five years ago) link

huh

k3vin k., Friday, 17 August 2018 00:41 (five years ago) link

Peak emo problems https://t.co/DK7JwOfeOv

— matty (@Truman_Black) August 17, 2018

k3vin k., Friday, 17 August 2018 00:44 (five years ago) link

"the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect."

I guess by that definition it's ironic, but on another level it seems almost painfully sincere

Dan S, Friday, 17 August 2018 00:44 (five years ago) link

I thought we all learned after Daft Punk's Discovery that the question "are they being ironic or not" is a bad question to ask, because everyone has different notions about what the object of ironic treatment is. A lot of art employs ironic (or at least "knowing") gestures so as to express something sincerely felt.

Tim F, Friday, 17 August 2018 00:49 (five years ago) link

I think any approach to Matt's lyrics here is helpfully informed by awareness of his lyrical approach in general, which was always a pastiche of quotations albeit in less obvious form:

"Your obsession with rocks and brown and fucking the whole town's a reflection on your mental health"

"I used to think you were cool and I believed you had a wonderful vision / But I soon found out you're a terrible friend and your mother's on the television"

"And why stay if you hate it so much? You think you're well cool / You just write about sex and killing yourself and how you hardly ever went to school"

(see also a slightly different take on "Me" - all things "Matt" has said but all of them in quotation marks. In those circumstances the title itself becomes subtly ironic)

All of the above lyrics are things people are saying back to Matt about himself, and he passes them on to the listener without framing or judgment, which in turn implies that there is some truth value to them - or, more precisely, I consider them to be Matt saying that any third party view of him probably has as much truth value as anything he might say on the topic ("truth is only hearsay") (the debut album could have been called "Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I Am").

This is a thread that runs through pretty much all of the band's songs. In that light, I consider the pastiche of "Love It If We Made It" to be saying something quite different from "lol how could anyone think or say these things" - almost the opposite, in fact. The song is saying "these are things that people think and say and do and there is no answer to any of it." It's elegiac, and the only irony is in the delivery of that elegy in the sense of not explicitly spelling out what it's doing, in the same sense that Matt's earlier lyrics don't seek to draw attention to their own dialogic structures or the reasons for those structures.

Tim F, Friday, 17 August 2018 01:10 (five years ago) link

(I added the comment about "Me" in parentheses at the end - obviously that song is not an example of what is described in the next paragraph, but is instead the opposite - Matt is relaying stuff he has said and is passing judgment on it)

Tim F, Friday, 17 August 2018 01:12 (five years ago) link

^yes, great posts

Dan S, Friday, 17 August 2018 01:19 (five years ago) link

i cant help but feel condescended to when im told im supposed to dislike this, like i cant make the cognitive leaps required without someone holding my hand to say (and it's bad that society is like this)

'actually it's about ethics in music journalism'

mookieproof, Friday, 17 August 2018 01:20 (five years ago) link

LMFAOOOOOOOK

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 17 August 2018 01:29 (five years ago) link

I agree, the 1975 are basically rockstar letting kids murder prostitutes in grand theft auto

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 17 August 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link

^^^a good example of irony btw

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 17 August 2018 01:32 (five years ago) link

idk there is some bad faith arguing in this thread that isn’t coming from deej and is coming from a place of “disagreement expressed somewhat clunkily means you hate me” - and i’m saying that as a woman fwiw

also reminder that no one has to read any ilx thread ever

maura, Friday, 17 August 2018 01:38 (five years ago) link

dag you ruined my four-consecutive-complaining-posts bingo

mookieproof, Friday, 17 August 2018 01:42 (five years ago) link

“Actually it’s about trying to own ppl online”

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 17 August 2018 01:44 (five years ago) link

maura otm, heated differences of opinions about pop songs can feel like personal attacks, but that's not necessarily the place they are coming from.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 17 August 2018 02:40 (five years ago) link

the "personal attack" is in bringing something I wrote for a different website here -- by name, which means it is Googleable -- to call me a troll.

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 02:43 (five years ago) link

Fair. I think it's fine to discuss it, don't think we need to call each other trolls or insane because we disagree.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 17 August 2018 02:44 (five years ago) link

Insane Troll Posse

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 17 August 2018 02:46 (five years ago) link

It probably would have been easier to ask the mods to googleproof your name than having a total meltdown across multiple threads

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2018 02:58 (five years ago) link

ffs lay off

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 August 2018 03:03 (five years ago) link

given that I have never seen any evidence of moderators existing, let alone doing anything, in the several years I have posted here, that seems doubtful

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 03:05 (five years ago) link

Ban l0u1s jagg3r

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2018 03:08 (five years ago) link

see

this is what happens when u create a board full of ppl whose job it is is to have opinions.

everyone thinks their opinion is amazing
no-one listens to anyone
and no-one knows when to shut the fuck up

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 August 2018 03:09 (five years ago) link

i could not give less of a fuck about any of this but the fact that someone would post under the same name on multiple websites that discuss the same topic and then act confused that those streams would cross is funny

call all destroyer, Friday, 17 August 2018 03:10 (five years ago) link

yes, and believe me, I am thoroughly regretting that decision

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 03:14 (five years ago) link

you've never made any effort at all to be anonymous on ilx so like, i'm not sure what you were expecting?

call all destroyer, Friday, 17 August 2018 03:15 (five years ago) link

I'm expecting that I can go about my day-to-day business without something I wrote on an entirely different site being dragged into a thread I have deliberately not been participating in, in order to pile onto it and call me a troll. this really doesn't seem like much to ask

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 03:17 (five years ago) link

idk, if i go somewhere else and post a bunch of bullshit as call all destroyer (idk if what you posted elsewhere is bullshit, i'm just saying) and ppl on ilx talk about it, don't i just have to roll with that?

call all destroyer, Friday, 17 August 2018 03:21 (five years ago) link

katherine, why do you even care that a gaggle of doughy aging nerds have a different opinion than you about a band for teenagers writing the Pepe version of Say Anything’s “Admit It!”

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2018 03:24 (five years ago) link

katherine otm

Trϵϵship, Friday, 17 August 2018 03:27 (five years ago) link

Pieces of criticism get discussed and picked apart on here all the time and have since the beginning. I don't think that's so unusual. Not exactly sure why we'd be focusing only on Katherine's blurb when that feature had about 20 different critics chiming in.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 17 August 2018 03:29 (five years ago) link

It would be one thing if people just wanted to talk about the ideas in the article but thats not what seems to have happened. Dragging someone’s work into ilx in order to score poitns seems... vulgar

Trϵϵship, Friday, 17 August 2018 03:30 (five years ago) link

There seems to be tension here b/w a person’s identity as a music writer and as an ILX poster.

Presumably if k didn’t post here then specifically referring to her take in this thread would not be an issue?

I don’t think there’s ever been a hard and fast rule around that though.

Tim F, Friday, 17 August 2018 03:34 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I've rarely seen a call for a regular poster to defend something they wrote elsewhere.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 17 August 2018 03:40 (five years ago) link

Probably only amongst the goon crew.

Tim F, Friday, 17 August 2018 03:45 (five years ago) link

the issue is that I had previously not been posting in this thread, deliberately, out of deference to the people in it who seem to want an entirely positive discussion, which, fine, whatever, it isn't my thread. this is not trolling; it is in fact the opposite of trolling. if I wanted to troll I would have posted my review to the thread to kick the hornet's nest. but instead the hornet's nest was kicked for me anyway, turning an otherwise pleasant afternoon and evening to shit

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 03:52 (five years ago) link

It’s no consolation i’m sure but kicking hornets’ nests is the larger part of what ILM does.

Tim F, Friday, 17 August 2018 03:56 (five years ago) link

see

this is what happens when u create a board full of ppl whose job it is is to have opinions.

everyone thinks their opinion is amazing
no-one listens to anyone
and no-one knows when to shut the fuck up

― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, August 16, 2018 10:09 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^

wld probably be best for everyone to wrap this up for now & collectively agree to not touch this thread for a few hours at least

lowercase (eric), Friday, 17 August 2018 04:02 (five years ago) link

I’m a little surprised ILM seems to love the 1975 this much that they’re kinda protected from critcisim. Love it if we made it doesn’t really seem like the kind of thing you lot would like—the social commentary seems a little on the nose and besides we live in an ocean of nonstop social and political commentary right now and do we really meed more stuff about trump in our music?

Trϵϵship, Friday, 17 August 2018 04:35 (five years ago) link

I’m not against it, I’m just not sure it is done successfully here

Trϵϵship, Friday, 17 August 2018 04:46 (five years ago) link

treeship, these are terrible posts. please reconsider

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 17 August 2018 05:21 (five years ago) link

It would be one thing if people just wanted to talk about the ideas in the article but thats not what seems to have happened. Dragging someone’s work into ilx in order to score poitns seems... vulgar

― Trϵϵship, Thursday, August 16, 2018 10:30 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is not what happened u moonfaced simpleton

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 17 August 2018 05:23 (five years ago) link

the link was literally shared by one of the co-authors, alfred soto lol

i engaged w [censored by the police]'s blurb bc i generally follow her ideas more than other posters on the board, no offense to alfred soto. i also engaged w. the ideas i didnt 'drag someone's work to ilx in order to score points' lmfao

this argument is insane, though to be clear, no one in this thread is

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 17 August 2018 05:27 (five years ago) link

presumably if k didn’t post here then specifically referring to her take in this thread would not be an issue

Specifically referring to someone also not the same thing as specifically referring to someone along with a question to them with 'you' in it and a seeming presumption that they'll be reading

Iain Mew (if), Friday, 17 August 2018 06:21 (five years ago) link

which turned out to be correct

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 17 August 2018 06:29 (five years ago) link

iain's blurb basically admits that he can't enjoy the song because he spends too much time online -- this is not the band's fault

This is an interesting response but seems contradictory to Kevin's point that the awfulness is mainstream!

Again, the song reminds me of people who seek out awful abuse online to retweet it for commentary - it's really easy to see that there's a lot awful things out there, and that is worth talking about, it's the specific way to do so that I disagree with

Iain Mew (if), Friday, 17 August 2018 06:32 (five years ago) link

dying @ moonfaced simpleton. deej going out like john wick

J0rdan S., Friday, 17 August 2018 06:39 (five years ago) link

Again, the song reminds me of people who seek out awful abuse online to retweet it for commentary - it's really easy to see that there's a lot awful things out there, and that is worth talking about, it's the specific way to do so that I disagree with

― Iain Mew (if), Friday, August 17, 2018 2:32 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark

this is what i mean about not being able to see the world outside the prism of online -- pop music has entirely different functions than does surfacing bad tweets to your small group of follower. it just strikes me as a really myopic way to view art.

J0rdan S., Friday, 17 August 2018 06:45 (five years ago) link

I don't apply the prism of online to everything, but it seems appropriate for a song from an album with Online in its title which quotes bad online memes

Iain Mew (if), Friday, 17 August 2018 06:54 (five years ago) link

For one, the song is ontologically, conceptually and creatively distinct from the lines it quotes, whereas retweeting a bad tweet doesn’t quite get there.

This logic would extend to a criticism of news media covering politics because “it’s basically retweeting abuse for comment.” That analogy isn’t devoid of merit but collapsing all of these things together requires ignoring about five hundred elephants filling up the room.

Tim F, Friday, 17 August 2018 06:56 (five years ago) link

i don't have much to contribute, but i just wanna say it's been fascinating (and edifying, really!) to basically see the no-platforming journalism debate play out in miniature by way of unpacking this song

austinb, Friday, 17 August 2018 07:07 (five years ago) link

i also wanna throw out there, sort of adjacent to/responding to katherine's concerns, that one of the (perhaps privacy-inconsiderate?) appeals of ILX to me has been its unique status as a forum where i've seen some of my favorite music writers really engage with each other in thoughtful dialog, in real time (not to mention the archive!). the relative transparency as to who writes about music and also posts on here has been an essential part of humanizing the world of music criticism to me, as well as a view into the backend of the whole space.

maybe that voyeurism is rude to the writer people who post on here, maybe my assumptions are naive, idk. i'm definitely skewed by my longtime abdication of privacy in my own digital spaces. i just wanted to provide a second-generation forum user perspective on the meta-question of linkages to writers' work outside of the forum.

austinb, Friday, 17 August 2018 07:22 (five years ago) link

great posts by Tim and Jordan itt, much better than the song tbh

niels, Friday, 17 August 2018 10:56 (five years ago) link

Dragging someone’s work into ilx in order to score poitns seems... vulgar

― Trϵϵship, Thursday, August 16, 2018 10:30 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I did not "drag someone's work into ILX" to score points. I posted a link to other critics' responses -- as I often do, and as I often do to my own work -- because I thought it was good writing about a band I've intermittently liked, including their last album.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 August 2018 11:24 (five years ago) link

Well, it would seem like if you do give 1975 obsessives enough rope they will hang themselces eventually. The biggest surprise is that it happened so quick.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 17 August 2018 11:24 (five years ago) link

*themselves

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 17 August 2018 11:25 (five years ago) link

get out

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 11:36 (five years ago) link

Alfred linked to a review of the 1975 single so we could discuss it here. That's about as normal as things get on an internet forum about music. Having those reviews - including Katherine's - discussed here is too. That's not "vulgar" ffs.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 17 August 2018 11:42 (five years ago) link

anyway a new song came out a couple of days ago!

k3vin k., Friday, 17 August 2018 11:57 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li9swopkHTo

the spotify vid is cute

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 12:02 (five years ago) link

for fuck's sake, the review is deleted. it's gone. it no longer exists. please stop talking about and please do not mention me in this thread ever again

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 12:09 (five years ago) link

also calling me a troll and calling my viewpoint -- shared by six other people in that post alone, not to mention many other people -- "insane" is the opposite of "thoughtful dialog."

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 12:14 (five years ago) link

talking about the 1975 anywhere at all on the internet as a non-stan apparently

http://wondermark.com/c/2014-09-19-1062sea.png

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 12:30 (five years ago) link

why is this still happening

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link

Because a bunch of 1975 obsessives got butthurt about someone's opinion.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 17 August 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link

i cannot think of anything worse than yesterday's conversation except you continuing it by being smug, so please, this isn't remotely from a place of beef, stop it

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 12:43 (five years ago) link

Well, you did ask the question!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 17 August 2018 12:44 (five years ago) link

all of you head over to the mitski thread for a cool-off pls

imago, Friday, 17 August 2018 12:45 (five years ago) link

I have been asleep for the past six to seven hours and have had the apparently objectionable review taken down, so unless I have spontaneously developed the ability to sleep-post and have those posts be invisible upon waking up, the reason this is still happening is not me

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 12:45 (five years ago) link

no one is mentioning you itt rn and i will encourage everyone to never mention you again and hopefully that continues for the rest of time

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 12:49 (five years ago) link

look, I'm sorry? as I said I was deliberately staying out of this thread before and I'm not the person who brought me into it by name

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link

"Why is everyone still talking about me ... Me ... ME ... ME!!!!!!

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2018 13:10 (five years ago) link

look, I said I’m sorry

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 13:11 (five years ago) link

I don't think you've got anything to apologise for, tbh!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 17 August 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten) at 10:24 16 Aug 18

katherine, why do you even care that a gaggle of doughy aging nerds have a different opinion than you about a band for teenagers writing the Pepe version of Say Anything’s “Admit It!”

yeah I mean you could just email Whiney

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 August 2018 13:58 (five years ago) link

seriously though posting the 30 Seconds to Mars covers cracked me up

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 August 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link

all of you head over to the mitski thread for a cool-off pls

― imago, Friday, August 17, 2018 8:45 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

leave us alone. go bug... *looks at topics* whatever brightblack morning light is

challops trap house (Will M.), Friday, 17 August 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link

Lmao at being accused of sea lioning bc I tried to engage a writer who posts on this board after their writing was posted to this thread ... Christ alive be more dramatic

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

"no one's upset with you"

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

deej stop it

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

i'm so fucking exhausted

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

So... anyone want to talk about the new 1975 material?

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

personally i hear more afrobeats than 'tropical house' in its rhythmic dna

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

Re the new single I don’t have a problem w the approach musically at all, I agree that lyrically it feels like a bit of a step down and maybe not a single that sticks with you but “the sound” is kind of an imperfect record also... idk to me it’s ok

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

I really don’t get the comparison to “the sound” sonically, lyrically I think “tootime” is really simple and direct in a way that complements the breezy atmosphere of the music well

k3vin k., Friday, 17 August 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link

I can take or leave either single, and while I didn't like "Love It If We Made It" I prefer the 1975 when Healy gets creepy over mid tempo ruminations ("A Change of Heart" might be my favorite 1975 song

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link

It may end up being the kind of track that is a bit of a "light relief" moment after a more emotionally heavier section of the album, from the sounds of it.

(x-post)

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link

My favourite 1975 song is either 'Paris' or 'Lostmyhead' ...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

I haven't read what Katherine wrote so I am not saying this is what she did at all. There's this thing in music criticism that mostly happens on twitter, sometimes on small blurbs outlet like Singles Jukebox and even on ILX, that I just can't stand. Some critics will just truly dismiss music and barely explains why, like it would be self-evident that band shouldn't make music, like the notion of 'different strokes for different folks' never existed. To even like the song is some sort of injury to 'good taste'. The thing is, sometimes some people really love that song, they will have built a particular emotional connection with and suddenly to have this particular emotional connection seen by the experts on the field as a character fault, well it hurts. I understand one shouldn't take those personally but it does hurt.

This is shit Lex used to do all the time here and it was truly infuriating. Part of it is because the lines between writing music criticism as a professional and just being a music critic writing for fun on many different online outlets have been obviously blurred. However, if you claim any professional title to music criticism and you dismiss music people love without doing proper research as to why they love it, or if you just can't be arsed to be respectful of what other people like, then I suggest to get ready to be called a troll, even if it it not true at all.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 17 August 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

turrican otm, back to maybe discussing the music then

give katherine a break christ

Ross, Friday, 17 August 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link

Yeah dude. Not the time

Trϵϵship, Friday, 17 August 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link

i can’t see why that post was necessary

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

I’m kinda liking the tootimetootime song. Very early daft punk

Trϵϵship, Friday, 17 August 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

i have v much grown to love it

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link

tooti#metoo time

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

i too yearn for the pre social media days when all disagreement was non-dismissive and replete with 'different strokes' caveats

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Friday, 17 August 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link

To “two-time” is to be unfaithful in a relationship or to sleep with multiple women at the same time without informing any of them.

Taking the theme of the album, online relationships, into consideration, Matty could be saying this in a satirical manner, poking fun at society.

Hypersexualization in the media is a prevalent and pressing issue in the 21st century. Matty might be suggesting that our society makes it easy to be led into temptation.

+24 UPVOTES

k3vin k., Friday, 17 August 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link

whiney, go fuck yourself

k3vin k., Friday, 17 August 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link

like grow up man, come on

k3vin k., Friday, 17 August 2018 19:49 (five years ago) link

whiney aptly named, you sun dried cunt

Ross, Friday, 17 August 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link

when do you resist being a total goof man

is that for your friends and family or something bud.

Ross, Friday, 17 August 2018 22:13 (five years ago) link

wtf is going on

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

Did whiney post something that got deleted or is it the bad metoo joke

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 17 August 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

I don't know, but it's comforting to know that shit will kick off in here regardless of whether I post in here or not. Vindicated is the word.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 18 August 2018 08:06 (five years ago) link

Turrican, have you checked your email?

mod, Saturday, 18 August 2018 11:23 (five years ago) link

*gulp*

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 August 2018 11:31 (five years ago) link

Nope, but I can guess!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 18 August 2018 12:00 (five years ago) link

Whiney is a good poster fwiw

Didn’t mean to diss you otherwise just in the context of what was going on here yeah

Ross, Sunday, 19 August 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

cool song

nxd, Monday, 20 August 2018 08:54 (five years ago) link

https://open.spotify.com/album/1uEvtwUnN2Uwo6j8NkbyTr

the whole No Rome EP that Matty & George produced is out now and is quite enjoyable. a sped up loop from Narcissist (which Matty sings on) forms the base for TOOTIME

ufo, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link

the 1975 album release date? poster at #RandL18 pic.twitter.com/MFnpm7gXAp

— tom (@delphdesire) August 23, 2018

and there's an album release date! November 30

ufo, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link

Hmm. I wonder if that also means the other album is gonna get pushed back?

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link

i heard love it if we made it in the barber shop today and it sounded fucking amazing

scritti politti and PIL produced by air france c'mon that's basically right

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fxPQUKfim4

for anyone who doesn't want to watch the video on spotify in portrait view lol

i love this song now

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

you text that boy sometimes

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link

I love this song too

after watching the video I bought an iphone (tm)

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link

fun ass video for a fun ass song

k3vin k., Wednesday, 29 August 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link

this is too cute.
love the song, obv.

Nourry, Thursday, 30 August 2018 09:17 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CfCspQRFK4

monotony, Friday, 31 August 2018 11:07 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4POUDVKNXVI

Narcissist samples this

ufo, Friday, 31 August 2018 11:19 (five years ago) link

"narcissist" is really nice

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 September 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

the tootimeX3 video is perfect

Tim F, Monday, 3 September 2018 08:20 (five years ago) link

01 The 1975
02 Give Yourself a Try
03 TooTimeTooTimeTooTime
04 How to Draw / Petrichor
05 Love It If We Made It
06 Be My Mistake
07 Sincerity Is Scary
08 I Like America & America Likes Me
09 The Man Who Married a Robot / Love Theme
10 Inside Your Mind
11 It’s Not Living If It’s Not With You
12 Surrounded by Heads and Bodies
13 Mine
14 I Couldn’t Be More in Love
15 I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes)

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 10 September 2018 12:53 (five years ago) link

shockingly, only 58 mins

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 10 September 2018 12:53 (five years ago) link

drudgesiren.gif

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 10 September 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link

good Lord put the album out already

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 September 2018 13:01 (five years ago) link

ooh How To Draw is on it? should be lovely to hear a new version of that

also lol at The Man Who Married a Robot / Love Theme

ufo, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:11 (five years ago) link

album cover rules a lot

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link

I was expecting something like the posters so this is definitely nicer

ufo, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link

into the cassette availability

maura, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link

i feel like theyre practicing the 'song evolves into chorus' form of songwriting rather than the 'drop chorus on your head like a bomb' school that has been dominant past ten years ... i appreciate that

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link

01 The 1975

Heh, I was wondering if they'd do this again!

08 I Like America & America Likes Me

Hi Bono!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 10 September 2018 20:52 (five years ago) link

the only thing worse than the 1975 are your posts on this thread/forum

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 10 September 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link

The 1975 have evolved into a very good band, so naturally I disagree with your original opinion.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 10 September 2018 21:03 (five years ago) link

// S I N C E R I T Y I S S C A R Y - T H U R S D A Y - W O R L D R E C O R D - 5 P M B S T // @Beats1 @zanelowe L O V E pic.twitter.com/GrvJHcgNXm

— The 1975 (@the1975) September 11, 2018

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link

cowards for not dropping it on 9/11 imo

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link

how much do y'all want to bet that it has a dfw reference

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

For some reason I thought this record was supposed to come out in the end of August, so having to wait until the end of November for this is gonna be agonizing

josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I ordered the LP plus cassette and signed card package.

Almost went the t-shirt as well. Mainly because, um, its a nice t-shirt.

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link

this one's my fav so far

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link

but then i'm always most mesmerized when they make straight up r&b tracks

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:39 (five years ago) link

oh my god this band really can do anything can't they

ufo, Thursday, 13 September 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link

where can one actually hear this

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 September 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

https://www.mymusic.net.tw/ux/w/album/show/643855 it went up early on this taiwanese streaming site, if you sign in with a fb account you can hear the full song

ufo, Thursday, 13 September 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link

hello d'angelo dragging beat

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 13 September 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link

cool that it automatically plays on a loop, i think i'll leave it like that till noon

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 13 September 2018 13:55 (five years ago) link

beautiful sax playing.

Nourry, Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

basically all of the elements of "if i believe you" in the service of a different but related vibe

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link

iirc there's supposed to be more of this vibe on the album, they mentioned that Mine is a 'jazzy lounge' track in one interview

ufo, Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link

a less dramatic version of "if i believe you", i suppose.
i'm playing it on a loop.

Nourry, Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link

it's maybe a little too obviously a sequel of "if i believe you" but given that that's the best song of all time i am not complaining

J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 September 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvKbAOMoNWA

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 September 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link

This one is probably my favorite out of the four new songs.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 13 September 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link

Clever bastards.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link

questlove on the drums or?

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

November 30 seems so far away.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

I get why people are referencing "if I believe you" but this has a totally different feel for me, it's much more live-sessiony in a way that stands in contrast to IIBY's studio perfection, more jazzy, I fuck with it tho. that said I'm surprised it's made such an immediate impression on a couple of true heads itt, seems like more of a slow burner

k3vin k., Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

I almost wish this band would make a bad song so they'd be more relatable or something

k3vin k., Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

on spotify now btw

k3vin k., Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link

do they have any songs that are 'bad'? I can't think of any I totally dislike

k3vin k., Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link

only songs i didn't at least like on contact were "loving someone" and "she way out" and turns out they're both good

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 September 2018 22:15 (five years ago) link

some of the EP songs aren't their best maybe but basically no

J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 September 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link

eric otm with the d'angelo reference.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:32 (five years ago) link

i have 0 problem with them doing more songs like If I Believe You and showing they can be a fantastic r&b band if they really want to be anytime, and the brass arrangement is even better here. not as funny as If I Believe You but what else is?

ufo, Friday, 14 September 2018 00:40 (five years ago) link

at the risk of turricanism, how is this band not named the 1985

mookieproof, Friday, 14 September 2018 01:02 (five years ago) link

I would have been into this band probably a year earlier if they were called the 1985 though now I kind of like their name

New song has a great vibe, though the hook didn't get me the first listen. Suspect this is one that will grow on me

Vinnie, Friday, 14 September 2018 03:11 (five years ago) link

I really liked "Sex" when it came out, but since then, I haven't found any reason to be interested in these guys, so I'm kind of surprised to find myself loving "TooTimeTooTimeTooTime" so much, annoying title aside. My latest favourite entry in whatever we want to call the genre that also (to my ears) encompasses Chvrches, MUNA, Kristen Control and things like that. And yeah, the video is a delight, too.

Engles in the Outfield (cryptosicko), Monday, 17 September 2018 23:21 (five years ago) link

*Kristin Kontrol

(half of that was autocorrect's fault; the rest was all me)

Engles in the Outfield (cryptosicko), Monday, 17 September 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link

I'm just pissed off
Because you pied me off

tpp, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 07:30 (five years ago) link

i cant believe no one mentioned DILLA thats what it sounds like more than dangelo (obviously some overlap there but)

the staggered groove is a total

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL947YIBRIA

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 03:30 (five years ago) link

actually this one more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upeY7toe0hs

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 03:32 (five years ago) link

yeah, questlove's drumming on Voodoo was all dilla-inspired, so they're both apt comparisons. The horns on it are very D'Angelo, too, so I think that's where a lot of the comparison comes from

i'm also proud to say that i didn't get Sincerity is Scary at all when i first heard it but now i absolutely love it

josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 03:43 (five years ago) link

the horns are very roy hargrove who was used on a number of soulquarian projects helmed by dilla, Common's 'Like Water For Chocolate" is actually what came to mind for me first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bVzAEueUAc

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 03:47 (five years ago) link

oh they def pull influence from dilla

the 1975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKQox1ztjKA

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 04:04 (five years ago) link

i think matty mentioned dilla by name when talking about the drums on this song on twitter recently

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 07:36 (five years ago) link

the writer calling the album "snowflake computer" is the worst thing that's ever happened to me but this is a really good interview https://www.nme.com/nme-big-read-1975-2018-2382050-2

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 21 September 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link

my fav photos of them from this round of press by a long shot

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 September 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link

how are we feeling about the Pale Waves album?

boxedjoy, Saturday, 22 September 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i was not really sold on most of the pale waves singles but the album is pretty solid. they have a tendency to write the same sort of hooks over and over again though, album could have been trimmed a bit.

ufo, Monday, 8 October 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link

that's basically how I felt about it - it's too long and there's two songs that share the exact same melody - but I still have a tremendous amount of goodwill towards them

boxedjoy, Monday, 8 October 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO8TIDyreUU

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/11/arts/music/the-1975-matty-healy-interview.html

Matty continues to describe Notes as their 'UK nighttime album' influenced by Burial so i'm even more excited for that than i am for A Brief Enquiry

ufo, Saturday, 13 October 2018 05:00 (five years ago) link

"narcissist" is kind of amazing

J0rdan S., Monday, 15 October 2018 01:47 (five years ago) link

i'd imagine matty is very jealous he didn't write this song (assuming he didn't)

J0rdan S., Monday, 15 October 2018 01:48 (five years ago) link

he co-wrote and co-produced it

ufo, Monday, 15 October 2018 01:52 (five years ago) link

yeah shit bangs

k3vin k., Monday, 15 October 2018 02:09 (five years ago) link

tour announced. lack of dates in new york and boston / east coast swing's timing makes me think they'll be playing boston calling and one of the big nyc fests

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

north american dates, i should say.

03-20 Guadalajara, Mexico - Auditorio Telmex ^
04-15 Phoenix, AZ - Comerica Theatre ^@
04-16 Las Vegas, NV - The Joint ^@
04-25 Seattle, WA - WaMu Theater ^@
04-26 Vancouver, British Columbia - Doug Mitchell Thunderbird Sports Centre ^@
04-27 Portland, OR - Veterans Memorial Coliseum ^@
04-29 Orem, UT - UCCU Center ^@
04-30 Morrison, CO - Red Rocks Amphitheatre ^@
05-02 Irving, TX - The Pavilion at Toyota Music Factory ^@
05-03 Austin, TX - Austin360 Amphitheater ^@
05-04 Sugar Land, TX - Smart Financial Centre ^@
05-07 Minneapolis, MN - The Armory ^@
05-08 Chicago, IL - United Center ^@
05-11 Rochester Hills, MI - Meadow Brooks Amphitheatre ^@
05-12 Cincinnati, OH - PNC Pavilion at Riverbend Music Center ^@
05-14 Columbus, OH - The LC Pavilion ^@
05-15 Nashville, TN - Ascend Amphitheater ^@
05-18 Atlanta, GA - State Bank Amphitheatre at Chastain Park ^@
05-19 Charlotte, NC - Charlotte Metro Credit Union Amphitheatre ^@
05-21 Washington, DC - The Anthem ^@
06-02 Darien Center, NY - Darien Lake Amphitheater @
06-03 Toronto, Ontario - Budweiser Stage @

^ with Pale Waves
@ with No Rome

maura, Monday, 15 October 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link

and there's the new video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wl1B7DPegc

Nourry, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 01:17 (five years ago) link

that video hit me hard

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 07:26 (five years ago) link

next single is It's Not Living If It's Not With You out this thursday

i really haven't minded the drip feed approach they've taken this time, new songs monthly for a year straight (with an album half-way and another at the end) is pretty great

ufo, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 12:02 (five years ago) link

Do you think they'll add more dates to that tour or have another leg? I'm bummed they're not playing Calgary this time (they've played here for their past two albums) and strongly considering travelling to see them considering I haven't traveled in years

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link

i really haven't minded the drip feed approach they've taken this time, new songs monthly for a year straight (with an album half-way and another at the end) is pretty great

if their goal with that has been to build anticipation, they've certainly got me hooked. They've released four great tracks so far, if this new one is as great as the others it could have AOTY potential

josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link

buying tick

flopson, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-14ylqaQC0

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link

Good Christ they only went ahead and created the best mid-80s pop track ever here.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link

<3

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link

well this song rules

k3vin k., Thursday, 18 October 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

This band is unstoppable

josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 18 October 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

the greatest band in the world

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 October 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

COLLAPSE MY VEINS WEARING BEAUTIFUL SHOES

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 October 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

lol if this is basically the "this must be my dream" of this album it's going to be the best album ever.

Tim F, Thursday, 18 October 2018 22:15 (five years ago) link

was gonna say, "Oh, it's another 'This Must Be My Dream.'"

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 October 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

i like this better... the last minute of this is ridic

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 October 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link

how does this band keep getting better at what they do and make it sound so effortless

ufo, Friday, 19 October 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link

its really absurd how good they are

k3vin k., Friday, 19 October 2018 00:39 (five years ago) link

Another great song. Chorus reminds me of "Love Will Never Do Without You"

Vinnie, Friday, 19 October 2018 01:19 (five years ago) link

this is so fun

nxd, Friday, 19 October 2018 08:28 (five years ago) link

when is the album out again?

alpine static, Friday, 19 October 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link

november something?

k3vin k., Friday, 19 October 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link

11/30

alpine static, Friday, 19 October 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link

melody is similar to 'heaven is a place on earth'

this is the heroin song i guess

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Friday, 19 October 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

Speaking as someone who's been clean for 11 years as of this month, "Collapse my veins wearing beautiful shoes" is one of the most poignant lines about heroin addition that I've ever heard in song. That line would be notable on a solemn, sad, druggy album by a band like Spiritualized, for example. But dropping it into the chorus of such an incredibly hooky '80s pop/rock song feels like a stroke of genius.

ilxor, Friday, 19 October 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link

lol if this is basically the "this must be my dream" of this album it's going to be the best album ever.

― Tim F

this band is just too much for me to handle.

Nourry, Friday, 19 October 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

welcome back stephen

k3vin k., Friday, 19 October 2018 23:36 (five years ago) link

i can't get over the fact that the singer in this band is the son of a "loose women" woman (also the winner of a celebirty big brother) and the guy from Auf Wiedersehen, Pet.

FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Friday, 19 October 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link

i love my favorite band so much

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 October 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link

ilxor <3

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 October 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link

can we do a thread were people post their the 1975 45-minute selects. do we have an OP10? for distilled 45 min pls of their highest highs

||||||||, Saturday, 20 October 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link

lol i was already on the verge of posting a top ten apropos of nothing

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 October 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

love it if we made it
paris
somebody else
fallingforyou
me
ugh!
menswear
undo
talk!
m.o.n.e.y.

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 October 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link

agh i forgot "head.cars.bending"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 October 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

i was late
but i arrived
i'm sorry that i'd rather be getting high than watching my family die

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 October 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link

nm, "me" is no. 1

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 October 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link

in no order except release:

Me
fallingforyou
Pressure
A Change of Heart
She's American
If I Believe You
The Ballad of Me and My Brain
Somebody Else
Love It If We Made It
It's Not Living (If It's Not With You)

ufo, Saturday, 20 October 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

have fine young cannibals ever been mentioned in this thread? was listening to she's american and it hit me in the head.

anza808, Sunday, 21 October 2018 02:46 (five years ago) link

on board with this sh1t

calstars, Sunday, 21 October 2018 03:26 (five years ago) link

You
Somebody Else
The City
Settle Down
If I Believe You
Milk
TooTimeTooTimeTooTime
The Ballad Of Me And My Brain
Chocolate
Ugh!

monotony, Sunday, 21 October 2018 06:34 (five years ago) link

fallingforyou
Me
Love It If We Made It
Somebody Else
The Ballad of Me and My Brain
Menswear
Undo
Paris
Head.Cars.Bending
Sex

Of course there’s another ten I would want to include...

Tim F, Sunday, 21 October 2018 08:48 (five years ago) link

so hard...

heart out
settle down
if I believe you
tootimetootimetootime
love it if we made it
the ballad of me and my brain
fallingforyou
by your side
sex
somebody else

k3vin k., Sunday, 21 October 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link

the thing is all their songs are good

k3vin k., Sunday, 21 October 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link

Damn.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 October 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

last year i made this mix for an online radio, in case anyone is interested: https://mixcloud.com/quanticaonline/suspensão-da-dúvida-14-by-joão-moço-the-1975-special-15062017/

my top:
somebody else
me
paris
fallingforyou
ugh
the ballad of me and my brain
milk
love it if we made it
undo
menswear
head.cars.bending
a change of heart

Nourry, Sunday, 21 October 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

nm, "me" is no. 1

yes!

need to think a bit before filling out a top 10 though.

toby, Sunday, 21 October 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

"Me" is still the best song ever for staring out at a city at night from a hotel room on a high floor while jetlagged.

― toby, Monday, 21 November 2016 00:49

have done this many times since I wrote it and this still holds true fwiw.

toby, Sunday, 21 October 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link

me
sex
fallingforyou
paris
a change of heart
ugh
love it if we made it
tootimetootimetootime
somebody else
talk

toby, Sunday, 21 October 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

settle down
girls
pressure
me
fallingforyou
a change of heart
if i believe you
ballad of me and my brain
i like it when you sleep
paris

J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 October 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

I’d have to think of a top ten but a top 3 is

Change of Heart
Give Yourself a Try (weirdly maybe i think this is the best of the new songs)
Chocolate

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 21 October 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

need your other 7 deejus

k3vin k., Monday, 5 November 2018 04:34 (five years ago) link

I'm going crazy anticipating this album

k3vin k., Monday, 5 November 2018 04:34 (five years ago) link

same. need this record more than ever.

Nourry, Monday, 5 November 2018 09:32 (five years ago) link

WHERE YOUR ASS WAS AT, DOG, WHEN N***** TRIED TO RUN OFF?
WHERE YOUR ASS WAS AT, DOG? YOU MADE ME PULL THIS GUN OUT
WHERE YOUR ASS WAS AT, DOG, WHEN I WAS IN THE PYREX?
WHERE YOUR ASS WAS AT, DOG, WHEN I WAS DRINKING HI-TECH?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek0SgwWmF9w

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 23:59 (five years ago) link

what

alpine static, Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:38 (five years ago) link

madness is a good song

J0rdan S., Thursday, 8 November 2018 04:26 (five years ago) link

this song is something else

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 9 November 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link

:D perfect thread for this

I listened to Simulation Theory in full today, it's obviously shit but it's a massive improvement over the previous three and I'm not sure why

imago, Friday, 9 November 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link

I think maybe it embraces the glory of high-budget shitness better than the others

imago, Friday, 9 November 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

I got a ticket to the Vancouver show.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 9 November 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link

same

flopson, Friday, 9 November 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link

Shit I need to pick one up too

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 9 November 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

NEED NEW ALBUM

k3vin k., Saturday, 17 November 2018 06:46 (five years ago) link

give me this album

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 04:27 (five years ago) link

they just announced a September tour here so I'm super excited, only saw them on the pre-ILWYS tour last album cycle

this album can't come soon enough

ufo, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 04:33 (five years ago) link

the NME gave it 5 stars and called Matty and George "the closest thing we have to a present-day Lennon and McCartney" lol

monotony, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 05:17 (five years ago) link

that nme review was incredible garbage

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 05:46 (five years ago) link

Lol it has a 99 on metacritic so far

(With four reviews, sure, but it’s still a great sight)

josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 08:21 (five years ago) link

xpost “beautifulgarbage”, more like

Tim F, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 08:52 (five years ago) link

this review seems a press release.

but I NEED THIS ALBUM IN MY LIFE RIGHT NOW.

Nourry, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 09:48 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K93ioXL63c

great video

ufo, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link

great vid

single bed mentality (||||||||), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link

why would you believe
you could control how you're perceived
when at your best you're intermediately
 versed in your own feelings?

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link

fuck

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 05:44 (five years ago) link

thanks for the heads up

ufo, Monday, 26 November 2018 05:54 (five years ago) link

GO DOWN
SOFT SOUND

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 06:04 (five years ago) link

tickets went on sale for their gig here (super excited to see them again!) right as i started listening to it. new version of the 1975 is great

ufo, Monday, 26 November 2018 06:07 (five years ago) link

oh shit wait til y'all hear "petrichor"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 06:11 (five years ago) link

it owns! love that they jump into ILWYS title track territory almost straight away on this album

ufo, Monday, 26 November 2018 06:13 (five years ago) link

"be my mistake" has the sort of arrangement i sorta wish radiohead had gone with for "true love waits"

ufo, Monday, 26 November 2018 06:22 (five years ago) link

there's so many things i have to say about this album i'm still just so happy someone finally had the sense to merge d'angelo and m83 (or, rather, bring the jazz element back into new pop revivalism)

austinb, Monday, 26 November 2018 06:27 (five years ago) link

as of "i like america & america likes me" i am completely overwhelmed

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 06:28 (five years ago) link

it's like "the ballad of me and my brain" had a nervous breakdown

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 06:30 (five years ago) link

they really straight up did their own Fitter Happier lmao

ufo, Monday, 26 November 2018 06:31 (five years ago) link

*hears opening chords of "inside your mind"* *every lighter in the arena ignites*

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 06:34 (five years ago) link

wonder if the "Love Theme" part of that track title is a reference to Vangelis

austinb, Monday, 26 November 2018 06:34 (five years ago) link

wowwww "I Couldn't Be In Love" is such an instantly great soul ballad

austinb, Monday, 26 November 2018 06:39 (five years ago) link

what even is this album

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 06:45 (five years ago) link

like... "mine"?????????

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 06:46 (five years ago) link

"mine" is so gorgeous

ufo, Monday, 26 November 2018 06:48 (five years ago) link

some X&Y vibes going on in here too, which i'm not complaining about at all

austinb, Monday, 26 November 2018 06:53 (five years ago) link

wowwww "I Couldn't Be In Love" is such an instantly great soul ballad

― austinb, Sunday, November 25, 2018 11:39 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

uh yeah it really is

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 06:54 (five years ago) link

well i immediately burst into tears at the chorus of "i always wanna die (sometimes)"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 06:54 (five years ago) link

fuck

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 06:54 (five years ago) link

album of the year

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 06:54 (five years ago) link

it sounds like bends-era radiohead? i love it

ufo, Monday, 26 November 2018 06:55 (five years ago) link

this is such a perfect bombastic closer

ufo, Monday, 26 November 2018 06:57 (five years ago) link

that's the one where i thought X&Y! so mid-00s tv soundtrack-ish, my fucking heart

austinb, Monday, 26 November 2018 07:00 (five years ago) link

it also reminds me of Shouso Strip

finished the album and it really rules, not sure how it compares with ILWYS yet but certainly on a similar level. only thing is i never want to listen to "the man who married a robot" again lol

ufo, Monday, 26 November 2018 07:01 (five years ago) link

ugghhh I need to hear this

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 07:13 (five years ago) link

"i always wanna die sometimes" is one of those songs where you want the chorus to go a certain place and then it does and fireworks start shooting off in your head

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2018 07:34 (five years ago) link

where is everyone listening to this? i thought it wasn't out until the 30th?

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 26 November 2018 07:35 (five years ago) link

it also sounds really british to me which i think is cool

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2018 07:37 (five years ago) link

it leaked so nowhere that's legal

ufo, Monday, 26 November 2018 07:46 (five years ago) link

"i like america & america likes me" destroyed me.

Nourry, Monday, 26 November 2018 09:55 (five years ago) link

where is this

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 26 November 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link

God it would be just horrible if this turned up in my inbox

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 10:27 (five years ago) link

"i always wanna die sometimes" is the most beautiful and sad and real song ever?

Nourry, Monday, 26 November 2018 10:31 (five years ago) link

wonder if I'd like this more than the last one

n.b. i liked the last one mostly as it was so mad and sprawling

imago, Monday, 26 November 2018 10:34 (five years ago) link

this one's madder and even broader in sound, though it doesn't really have the same sort of arc to it that ILWYS did

ufo, Monday, 26 November 2018 10:47 (five years ago) link

"let's write every type of ballad we can think of", the album

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link

they just did a great cover of "thank u, next" on the radio 1 live lounge but it was very weird to hear someone else sing ariana's very personal lyrics

ufo, Monday, 26 November 2018 12:29 (five years ago) link

the brand is strong

I'm honestly not sure how to feel about the suicidal ideation power ballad

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 12:35 (five years ago) link

Okay listening to this now and uh..... holy shit @ "Petrichor".

Tim F, Monday, 26 November 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link

it's a good Radiohead track!

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2018 12:55 (five years ago) link

this band's sequencing choices continue to absolutely baffle me, but that's an easy fix

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link

the brand is strong

― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, November 26, 2018 6:35 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Keep Desus & Mero out of this

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 November 2018 13:11 (five years ago) link

I know it's corny as shit, but I feel like crying so much during 'the man who married a robot'.

Nourry, Monday, 26 November 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link

ftr I have never watched Desus & Mero?

"Mine" seems to be pretty handily the best of the many ballads

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link

the sequencing was pretty perfect on ILIWYS but it's a lot messier here

ufo, Monday, 26 November 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link

tbf tho I think this is a much trickier batch of songs to sequence

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link

fucking in a car
shooting heroin

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

i really should spend more time with the parts of this album that aren't "i always wanna die (sometimes)"

ufo, Monday, 26 November 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

ysi?

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 26 November 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link

“inside your mind” is like if “you” and “me” were fused together

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link

first artist to mind when "Be My Mistake" chimes in: Ryan Adams

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

the first few times i listened to this i was kinda taken aback by how... soft the album is outside of the songs already released (+ i always wanna die). but it’s musically accomplished in a way i still didn’t expect from them for some reason.

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

wtf how can I hear this

k3vin k., Monday, 26 November 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link

you need to be nefarious. google's search tools where you can restrict to, oh, the last 24 hours are your friend

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

mods feel free to delete that post in the next lil while

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

I had extremely high expectations for this album but OH MY GOD I did not expect them to pull off something like Petrichor

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 26 November 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link

i'm just with my friends online fighting crime sometimes

lowercase (eric), Monday, 26 November 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link

the "thank u next" cover is incredible

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link

i sure picked the right best band in the world

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbjwZWkTTQ

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

I'm hoping I wind up responding to this one like I did the last one but I'm having....some problems with it. I'll keep those to myself for a bit so we can all bask in glee

that Grande cover IS amazing

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link

I've the same cavils, Simon.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

i'm still wrapping my head around it but: at the moment the range bugs me a little, it's almost too varied and very difficult to settle into. "be my mistake" is a very lovely song, i prefer it to the previous spare acoustic 1975 tracks a la "she lays down," but uh i have to tune out the lyrics a little

however "inside your mind" to the end is a remarkable run of songs

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link

weirdly "tootime" is now one of my absolute favorite 1975 songs

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

the stylistic range is admirable, just wish there was a little more tempo/dynamic range. maybe they're saving it for Gravity's Rainbow or whatever the followup is going to be called

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

i found it a pretty bewildering album at first... i think there's something meta about the way the album is structured, there's a lot of sparseness in between big dopamine spikes and they perhaps naturally put out the latter songs as singles. the middle section -- from be my mistake to inside your mind -- feels a little soft i think but the album closes really strongly.

it sorta orients itself in your brain over time & i think the album makes sense in light of matty's comments about it being his "sincere" album... frankly it doesn't rly come thru to me lyrically ("sincerity is scary" is still pretty acidic) but it does to me insofar as the big thing w/ this album compared to their others is that there's such a strong emphasis on his vocals. there's lots of interplay b/w vocal manipulation (most of which is really cool to hear) and then something like "mine" which really centers him as a vocalist in a very traditionalist sense.

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link

imo "be my mistake" -> "sincerity" & even more so "inside your mind" -> "it's not living" are perfect juxtapositions

lowercase (eric), Monday, 26 November 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link

idk these guys have always coded as bros with an unusually deep grasp of the limitations of rock instruments, therefore they use their programmed instruments as prisms through which Healy refracts his asshole tendencies. I can understand why they disgust a lot of listeners, especially female listeners.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link

idk these guys have always coded as bros with an unusually deep grasp of the limitations of rock instruments

these two points do not quite live in harmony!

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link

matty doesn't really come off like an asshole on this record to me, "sincerity is scary" is acidic sure but more equivocal and self-critical than was even implied in "change of heart" (he spends almost the entire first verse giving himself shit over his own lyrics and heroin addiction). the worst he comes off is "be my mistake" which sure is a gentle acoustic ballad about cheating, and even then i just can't really deal with the "hair/feet" line my goodness

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

wtf how can I hear this

― k3vin k., Monday, November 26, 2018 5:07 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you need to be nefarious. google's search tools where you can restrict to, oh, the last 24 hours are your friend

― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, November 26, 2018 5:10 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

k3vin otm. do i need to fire up soulseek for this? my god... for the 1975 i will :/

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 26 November 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

i just can't really deal with the "hair/feet" line my goodness

lmao that was my biggest "oh, matty..." moment for sure

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link

he IS right that sincerity is scary

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

imo the hard/weak line is worse, prob bc the other one is at least v matty

lowercase (eric), Monday, 26 November 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link

Enjoy a new interview

https://ew.com/music/2018/11/26/the-1975-musical-moodboard/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 November 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link

“Give Yourself a Try” is a reference to “Disorder” by Joy Division. We’re from the same town as Joy Division. I’m from the same road. Being in Macclesfield, [England] you can’t escape the weight of Joy Division, especially if you’re a band.

suspected this was the case

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2018 19:49 (five years ago) link

James Yorkston shoutout in that interview too!

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Monday, 26 November 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEysvcVrEyo

k3vin k., Monday, 26 November 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

There's a bit of Feist's "The Park" energy to a few of the ballads on this album, especially "Be My Mistake"

monotony, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 00:02 (five years ago) link

i think my favourite moment on first listen was probably the key change in "I Couldn’t Be More in Love"

monotony, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 00:04 (five years ago) link

after some more listens i don't think it's quite as great as iliwys. the many highs are just as great as their previous bests but it's a little more inconsistent and doesn't play to their strengths of writing incredible pop songs quite as much.

quite a few of the tracks have the same problem they often had on their debut - no bridge or anything equivalent to really elevate them. i really like "give yourself a try" but it doesn't really go anywhere - a bridge or solo or even just some sort of dynamic shift towards the end would significantly improve it. "inside your mind" and "be my mistake" aren't bad but also don't go anywhere and "surrounded by heads and bodies" is kinda pretty but feels fairly half-formed as a song.

and then "the man who married a robot" is just embarrassing and i have no idea what to make of "i like america", it's sorta cool but also doesn't really have anything to grab onto?

ufo, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 00:57 (five years ago) link

imo "i like america" is one of the best things here

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 01:12 (five years ago) link

sounds like the album's exploding

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 01:12 (five years ago) link

curious why they released this at the end of the year when they’ll get snubbed on eoy lists (many of which are already up or being written right now)

flopson, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 01:15 (five years ago) link

"i like america" is just a little monotonous to me? i like the sound of it but then it's just the same melodic fragment over and over

ufo, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 01:18 (five years ago) link

also i kinda like the static quality of "inside your mind," sounds kinda like it's just throbbing in the empty echoing arena of someone's... mind

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 01:20 (five years ago) link

xxp working on it up till p recently / wanting to establish an album-Era w the rollout

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 01:21 (five years ago) link

"Inside Your Mind," "How to Draw/Petrichor" and "It's Not Living (If It's Not with You)" seem like the unalloyed triumphs so far -- perfect meldings of, ah, sound and vision.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link

i'd still consider "love it if we made it" a perfect melding thereof (& don't rly get how it's a mess musically) but it feels awkward right after "petrichor", feels like it shld draw out from a roomier space mb? idk it's one of the less obvious sequencing decisions to me

honestly i'd think it'd go great btwn tracks 1&3 but also am trying not to think like that

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 01:39 (five years ago) link

i get not being the most impressed w "inside your mind" melodically but i think of the end ringing into the guitar coiling up at the beginning of "it's not living" as part of the former song's movement

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 01:43 (five years ago) link

lyrics aside "be my mistake" floats so movement isn't a big concern for me there

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 01:56 (five years ago) link

oh yeah that's otm

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 01:59 (five years ago) link

"surrounded by heads..." struck me as a highlight. I suppose it's a good sign that everyone seems to have different ones.

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

I can't wait to hear this album live.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 03:02 (five years ago) link

if its leaked why are they not just putting it on streaming smh

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 03:29 (five years ago) link

they did correct all the lyrics people put on genius lol

ufo, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 03:32 (five years ago) link

curious why they released this at the end of the year when they’ll get snubbed on eoy lists (many of which are already up or being written right now)


it’s the FOLIE A DEUX of the 10s

maura, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 04:03 (five years ago) link

they seemed poised for a critical breakthrough with this one

flopson, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 04:04 (five years ago) link

lol @ maura

ripersnifle, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 04:52 (five years ago) link

today i think 'i couldn't be more in love' is the best song ever.

Nourry, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 12:10 (five years ago) link

Looks like there are lots of official annotations here: https://genius.com/artists/The-1975

toby, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 12:20 (five years ago) link

This is already growing on me, even if I wish there were a couple more upbeat tunes. If I had to describe their current mode, it would be "productively exhausting"

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link

Too many ballads in the middle.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link

https://pitchfork.com/features/song-by-song/the-1975s-matty-healy-dissects-every-song-on-a-brief-inquiry-into-online-relationships/

There was one moment while making the record that, if you could bottle it, it would be better than any other drug. I was sat in my car, and I had to get this line. I had, “Consultation, degradation, fossil-fueling masturbation/Immigration, liberal kitsch, kneeling on a pitch...” And then I had “excited to be indicted.” I had all these things, but I didn’t have that one bit in between. I needed seven syllables. And I’d just written the Kanye line, and I was thinking, “What else has he famously said?” Then it was like [sings triumphant melody] the syllable spaces of “I moved on her like a bitch” just went in, game show-style, and I was like, “Oh my god! I’ve got it!” And then [my bandmates] were like, “It’s another swear word.” And I was like, “Oh yeah, that’s a bit annoying.” But then I was like, “No, if we’re going to get censored, we’re going to get censored for verbatim quoting the leader of the free world.” That is the song in its essence. How weird is reality?

Of course the natural next step in the story is for someone to link this thread to Healy and have him see what that moment of inspiration has wrought

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link

oh wow what a nice post

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

if your intention here is to slyly needle at and/or resurrect a months-old horrible argument: hey, don't do that

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

my friends and i are going to do our first listen thru the album on thursday with some kind of interesting visuals on mute in the background. (for our first listen thru Life of Pablo we played the animated Watership Down film on mute lol)

my brother suggested Tron. i think something that mirrors the blocky, neon-lit sound of their music is definitely a good idea (anime?)

any suggestions?

caulk the wagon and float it, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 19:48 (five years ago) link

hypernormalisation

teen heartthrob Pacey Winger (Will M.), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

tron would've been a good visual for i like it when you sleep, less so for this one

i can't 100 percent guarantee this is a good idea but: try playing the new one with koyaanisqatsi on mute

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link

sans soleil would also prob work

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

i still can't get my head around loving this as a whole, though that may well come later on, but my god "i always wanna die (sometimes)"

petey v, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

THX 1138 imo

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

i have a lot of thoughts about that song that pretty much all require a content warning for suicidal ideation xp

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link

oh excellent suggestion simon

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link

i have a lot of thoughts about that song that pretty much all require a content warning for suicidal ideation

lmao I tweeted something very similar

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

really any 70s sci-fi with a lot of open space will do. Solaris would be dope as well

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

yeah i was mostly thinking of something brighter and less actively digital than tron, solaris is another good one

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link

honestly the Clooney/Sodes one might be a better fit

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

prettier people, for starters

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

Can't imagine watching the original Solaris without granting it my undivided attention.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

xp Hey sorry no needling was intended on my part, carry on

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

sorry for reacting so poorly, it was just a very bad time for everyone involved

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

Honestly reading through that whole thing led to kind of a rough night for myself and I thought that post would provide some closure, really didn't mean any animosity Brad

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

<3

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

any suggestions?

― caulk the wagon and float it

i'm imagining that 'southland tales' can be a good fit (but I'm obsessed with that film, so). and in some weird way, '#horror' by tara subkoff as well.

Nourry, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link

omg lol southland tales is perfect

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link

southland tales is perfect

with our without the 1975, that's always correct.

Nourry, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

or*

Nourry, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

this must be my dream

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

my half-suggestion might be evangelion: death given the montage-like editing & runtime, it fits almost exactly if you append another song afterwards, but obv if you haven't seen the series etc

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link

thank u all for the suggestions !

koyaaniqatsi & hypernormalization both occurred to me but i think i want to steer away from the actively dystopian/overwhelming vibe

my brother also initially suggested thx 1138 alongside tron, i'd never even heard of it til today! seems like a sign

caulk the wagon and float it, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link

how does everyone in this thread have the exact same taste in movies as me

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link

hivemind otm

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link

also 'Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk'.

Nourry, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 23:32 (five years ago) link

and 'manhunter'.

Nourry, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 23:33 (five years ago) link

The 2-part Miami Vice pilot would be my vote

calstars, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 23:55 (five years ago) link

As others have said, there is a lot to take in here. My first thought and only really complaint is that I don't really like what they've done with the intro. The way the second version went into Love Me was a moment and this time it doesn't quite work.

I was never keen on the acoustic ballads that closed ILIWYS as they always felt so out of place. I love that this time round they've really given the album the big ending it deserves. Mine gives me George Michael's Kissing A Fool vibes and I Couldn’t Be In Love More is an even better version of Versace On The Floor. Holy crap at I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes). That chorus is incredible. It's a kind of power ballad meets some Britpop album closer from the late 90s (I feel bad saying this, but I get Mansun vibes from his falsetto). There's so much great stuff here, but I'm coming back to those three songs right now.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 03:38 (five years ago) link

the ballads could have worked to close ILIWYS but they just weren't as strong songs as the most of the album so it was an underwhelming ending. the closing trio on this one are fantastic though, if they want to do ballads then please more like those, or more like the synth ballads from the EPs which are still some of their best songs

ufo, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 04:10 (five years ago) link

Mansun mention otm, get kind of a Little Kix vibe from some of this

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link

I can imagine them covering Forgive Me, almost

imago, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

Has anyone said Her for the movie thing. That might work.

gman59, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link

it's a little odd that this album's the real critical breakthrough when the last one was better and a bigger step up, but i guess that lead to more critics taking them seriously this time?

ufo, Thursday, 29 November 2018 06:14 (five years ago) link

^^ this has always been a thing, i think, although i also feel like i'm seeing it a bit more these days: critics, *very* generally speaking, really latching on to a great band approximately one album "late"

alpine static, Thursday, 29 November 2018 08:23 (five years ago) link

BNM'd (8.5): https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/the-1975-a-brief-inquiry-into-online-relationships/

2 points up from their previous LP, so it checks out.

pomenitul, Thursday, 29 November 2018 09:33 (five years ago) link

Holy Shit! I had absolutely no idea who Matty's parents were until reading that Pitchfork review.

groovypanda, Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:44 (five years ago) link

Definitely there will be critical reactions to this album that reflect critics belatedly putting aside their prima facie assumptions about this band too late to get published articles about the second album.

But I would go further and say that I don't even really feel like the second album was a "step up" in a strong sense. Perhaps it seemed like one relative to the first album's laser eighties pop focus. But this band's capacities and proclivities have been fairly well established since the IV ep at the latest. They're still trying to find ways to top "Me" and "fallingforyou".

Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:16 (five years ago) link

Also I have decided that all the songs on this album that purportedly are about cheating ("TootimeX3", "Be My Mistake") are actually about heroin.

Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:20 (five years ago) link

the second album was a big step up in every way from the debut - songwriting, production, ambition, musical range. the debut wasn't bad or anything but it was just very solid pop rock for the most part with only a few hints of the sort of range they'd displayed on the EPs, though that's understandable though since the EP tracks were written after the debut was. they'd definitely demonstrated what they were capable of between the EPs and debut but then fully delivered on that and more on ILIWYS

but i completely agree that they've still yet to top Me and fallingforyou at that particular thing, those were the tracks that initially hooked me on this band

ufo, Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:27 (five years ago) link

No you're right - I meant more that ILIWYS only seemed *surprising* if one ignored the EP material. I agree it's a much more ambitious album than the debut.

Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link

Also I have decided that all the songs on this album that purportedly are about cheating ("TootimeX3", "Be My Mistake") are actually about heroin.

― Tim F, Thursday, November 29, 2018 6

From Lennon to New Order, 90 percent of artists write about drugs. It's all they know besides pillow density at a Radisson vs Courtyard Marriott

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link

i have always been correct about the 1975

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link

Also I have decided that all the songs on this album that purportedly are about cheating ("TootimeX3", "Be My Mistake") are actually about heroin.

― Tim F, Thursday, November 29, 2018 4:20 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"i told her i only use it sometimes"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

Holy Shit! I had absolutely no idea who Matty's parents were until reading that Pitchfork review.

― groovypanda, Thursday, November 29, 2018 4:44 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The arts are pretty much a rich kids thing now

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 November 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link

Also I have decided that all the songs on this album that purportedly are about cheating ("TootimeX3", "Be My Mistake") are actually about heroin.

― Tim F, Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:20 AM (three hours ago)

hmmmmmmmmmm

k3vin k., Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link

pretty surprised this is not up on streaming services yet with all the glowing reviews pouring in

k3vin k., Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link

Drug is the love and I neeeeed to score

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link

AND I'D LOVE IT IF WE MADE IT https://t.co/fKqyFxSHO0

— Mark Pytlik (@markpytlik) November 29, 2018

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link

lmao

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link

that is a good ass tweet

k3vin k., Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLrqm8F7TgM

this is the bonus track on the japanese release of the album. it's also an old solo matty song

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

thank u, the 1975.

Nourry, Thursday, 29 November 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link

oh man that’s good

k3vin k., Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

Wow, if I didn't read that (weirdly short/incomplete?) Pitchfork review I don't think I would have picked up on the now blatantly obvious Joy Division nod in "Give Yourself a Try." Certainly when we devised that huge list of comparisons that came up discussing the last record I doubt any of us expected to see Joy Division added to the litany.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link

lmao at P4K bnm'ing this

single bed mentality (||||||||), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

I doubt any of us expected to see Joy Division added to the litany.

me, in the very first post: post-punk tendencies

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link

WHAT ABOUT

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link

THEEEEESE FEEEEEEEELINGS

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link

i've got

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link

which i wrote bc the bass line in "sex" reminded me of post-punk

xp

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

What if they pull a Sufjan and never release Notes on a Conditional Form or whatever it's supposed to be called

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link

i v v v much hope they release it because i've been realizing how much a brief inquiry is blasted with daylight, and i really want to hear nighttime side

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

*looks both ways and speaks in a low whisper* i chatted w matty a few weeks ago and he was pretty adamant that the album will be coming out when they say... i had asked him about roy hargrove and he said roy played on a song that will be on the next album, but i also got the sense that the album making process is very fluid and i wouldn't put a ton of stock in the way he's described that album in the press so far

J0rdan S., Thursday, 29 November 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

oh yeah i don't actually expect to get the night bus 1975 record i want

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

i'm thrilled hargrove is on another 1975 song, that rules

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

he mentioned on twitter that track is "Frail State of Mind"

ufo, Thursday, 29 November 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link

i gotta ask: how is Matty as an interview?

alpine static, Thursday, 29 November 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link

I don't think anyone itt has interviewed him but there are like 20 matty interviews that have been published this week that can give you an idea

k3vin k., Thursday, 29 November 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

oh I obviously don't read ignore me please

k3vin k., Thursday, 29 November 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

i loved interviewing him way back in 2013. he had an infectious enthusiasm for everything that came up in our conversation. he's very smart but not very good at thinking about what he says before he says it lol

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

man the joy division rip sailed past me somehow ... i think it's one of their more ingenuous lifts because the tone of the song is so different, good example of reinventing the familiar

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link

pretty funny to be the one who's like 'pshh this is a blue nile bite' / 'holy shit that was joy division'

ilx is a special place

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

I thought Joy Division but also late '00s TV on the Radio.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

you all are talking about the first album right? because I don't hear that at all on the second album.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link

im talking about this new album which literally takes a riff from "Disorder" for "Give Yourself a Try"

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

No, I know, (though I think you mean Disorder?). I'm talking about folks like Brad, in the very first post, mentioning post-punk and I guess meaning joy division, and Alfred mentioning Joy Division as well. It'ss obvious in that quote on the new album, I've just never really noticed it in their music before.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:38 (five years ago) link

haha, that is so weird, I could have sworn you said She's Lost Control. But yeah, Disorder.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

you all are talking about the first album right? because I don't hear that at all on the second album.

― Josh in Chicago,

"Give Yoruself a Try." I referred to the drum machine and screech guitar in the first thirty seconds or so. I thought of "Dancing Choose."

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

the post-punk thing re: the first album was almost certainly referring to "Sex"

ufo, Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link

yep, and pretty much only “sex”

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

but it’s there! imo. lol

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

it's a little odd that this album's the real critical breakthrough when the last one was better and a bigger step up, but i guess that lead to more critics taking them seriously this time?

― ufo, Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:14 AM (sixteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Without having heard the album or any of the tracks released on Youtube yet - I will of course be rectifying this tomorrow - I'm getting the general feeling that (critics aside) reactions are far more cooler and less enthusiastic on this album in comparison to the previous one, and the high critic scores are some kind of Be Here Now-level overcorrection due to them underrating ILIWYS...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:50 (five years ago) link

Pretty sure I like the last one better.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link

it's still excellent, just a little more inconsistent than the last one. hardly a Be Here Now situation

ufo, Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link

I'm also beginning to see pissed off comments dotted around the internet from people claiming to be long-time fans who don't seem to be into the idea of the band expanding their fanbase...

I dunno, it feels weirdly like "the backlash starts here" in a way...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link

i don't think "the backlash starts here" really applies to a band that people have really really loved to hate right from the start

ufo, Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link

The backlash starts here... with Turrican. To the barricades!

Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link

I doubt there will be a backlash, the album's close enough to the last one that I can't imagine they lose a single fan.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link

a hidden Healy influence, I'd say

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link

Yes, but quite a fair few of those people that loved to hate them - and I was one of them to the point of being such a painful bastard about it - eventually became converts!

However, I'm more referring to those that loved them from the very beginning. For a band to divide opinion as radically as The 1975 did, it must have led to a certain kind of underdog status in the eyes of many who loved the band, or as "underdog" as a band of their size could be. The kind of mass acceptance that is threatening to happen with this record kinda removes that.

(xxpost)

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link

they’ve always been a huge band, they’ve been selling out shows since even before the debut. so i have no idea what you’re on about

if fans are pissed about critics finally picking up on them... who cares? why are we even talking about these strawpeople

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link

In my case, I personally couldn't give a shit about any of that stuff as a recent convert. I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy the new material at the very least.

(x-post)

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:12 (five years ago) link

most of the fans i know who have been in the tank since the eps are delighted with this record and happy for the band for finally getting critical recognition

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link

Well yeah, this is what I've just said - they've always been a big band (and even then I keep forgetting just how well their debut did in the US) but a very divisive one.

most of the fans i know who have been in the tank since the eps are delighted with this record and happy for the band for finally getting critical recognition

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:13 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In that case, it's reassuring to know that there are fans sticking with them as they pick up new ones.

As for the record itself, I'll make comment on that when I actually hear it.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link

I did listen to ILIWYS twice today, though.

Those who have heard the album: is there anything as good as 'Paris' on here?

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:21 (five years ago) link

*there.

I agree with what was said above about the last two tracks on ILIWYS, btw. There's nothing wrong with them at all, but the more I listen to that album, the more that 'Paris' feels like the true album closer and 'Nana' and 'She Lays Down' feel more like bonus tracks or an extended P.S.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link

Also, 'Pressure' from their first LP rules.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link

why is turrican still allowed on this thread

single bed mentality (||||||||), Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link

"i couldn't be more in love" is the greatest song ever made

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 00:33 (five years ago) link

I wouldn't go quite that far but it finally clicked for me this morning (I think my 6th listen to the album, at 5am, after a restless night with a nasty sore throat); up until now Surrounded by Heads and Bodies/Mine/I Couldn't Be More in Love had felt a bit disappointing but something about listening to them in the quiet early morning made them stand out in a way that they hadn't before.

I still don't like "Be My Mistake" though; otoh I tend to skip the last two songs on ILIWYS, I think the acoustic ballads are mostly their weakest songs.

Of the songs that weren't out before the album, I Like America & America Likes Me/Inside Your Mind/I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes) are A++++. I would quite like to hear a version of Inside Your Mind with production more like Me, though (more synths, less piano).

I'm actually OK with The Man Who Married a Robot, it's about as good as a Siri-narrated story about an internet troll could be, I guess.

toby, Friday, 30 November 2018 07:14 (five years ago) link

first listen verdict: feels like a massive step down from ILIWYS tbh

imago, Friday, 30 November 2018 08:34 (five years ago) link

nearly 20 minutes shorter but so much more of a slog

imago, Friday, 30 November 2018 08:53 (five years ago) link

on my first listen now....not sure what to make of “surrounded by heads and bodies” yet...overall there are a lot of slow songs

“how to draw/petrichor” is like the trip hop cousin of “the ballad of me and my brain” and it bangs

k3vin k., Friday, 30 November 2018 13:12 (five years ago) link

lol happy 1975 day i guess. stick with it lj

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link

I will say in LJ’s defense that the singles seem to be the best songs here, or at least the most immediate. though I expect the slower ones to grow on me

didn’t like the intro on first listen which is sad because I loved the first two

k3vin k., Friday, 30 November 2018 14:24 (five years ago) link

the cool thing about the album is you can skip the slow ones because they're clumped at the end

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 November 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link

I will persist with it but I did immediately listen to ILIWYS afterwards and it was like waking up. Still if it makes me like that album more it's not a total loss

imago, Friday, 30 November 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link

i burned the hell out of the singles which is making the full album spin less appetizing. skipping around a lot.

my mistake is the one i really cant get into. heads and bodies is the one thats grown most. haunting.

anza808, Friday, 30 November 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link

im so confused by people who didn't hear the joy division rip? it was the first thing i heard and it bugged me. and i don't know shitr about music! also bugged me when they started that one song exactly like lcd soundsystem.

teen heartthrob Pacey Winger (Will M.), Friday, 30 November 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link

yeah I do wonder whether releasing all those singles so early in the process was a wise move when they’re arguably the best songs on the record, but I guess that kind of a rollout is part of the territory with a band as big as them

k3vin k., Friday, 30 November 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link

pretty funny to be the one who's like 'pshh this is a blue nile bite' / 'holy shit that was joy division'

ilx is a special place

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, November 29, 2018 5:10 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk i think "give yourself a try" is executed on a much higher level than "love it if we made it," or maybe i just like "the downtown lights" a lot more than i like "disorder"

galaxy brian (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 November 2018 15:15 (five years ago) link

i do look forward to one day hearing a 1975 record where i haven’t already heard 30-40 percent of it. but they’ve done this for every album

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

the cool thing about the album is you can skip the slow ones because they're clumped at the end

― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, November 30, 2018 7:31 AM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah sure skip the george michael section of the record

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link

the lcd soundsystem quote on "sex" was way more irritating because they didn't do anything with it, it's just a direct lyrical and melodic quote that really stands out awkwardly

"love it if we made it", while an intended reference to "the downtown lights" isn't a direct rip or anything and goes in a very different direction to anything the blue nile have done. it's certainly one of the album's highlights.

while the singles are definitely some of the strongest tracks there's also others that are just as great - "how to draw/petrichor", "i couldn't be more in love" and "i always wanna die" especially - i don't understand complaints about the end of the record, that's the best part.

i look forward to the hype cycle restarting in only two months

ufo, Friday, 30 November 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link

i get whiplash listening to this one in a way that i really didn't with the last one--the audacity is impressive, the sequencing could be a little less jarring

galaxy brian (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 November 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link

the run of the last four tracks is easily my favorite part of the record now. “surrounded by heads and bodies” IS haunting. curious that this is the second band (cf. foxing) i’ve heard trying to access hail to thief-era radiohead this year

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link

“give yourself a try” I like a lot, and more than any of the new songs it seems to me like a an updated take on something from their first album, which I have been pretty obsessed with lately. but to me “love it if we made it” is just on another level, something I could have never seen them pulling off or even trying 5 years ago (despite the hook being kind of a self-bite of “robbers” lol)

that said over the past week I think “it’s not living” has become my favorite of the new songs, just an absolutely perfect pop song. you get the feeling matty could write ten of these in a week and put out the best album of parallel-universe alphabeat songs ever

k3vin k., Friday, 30 November 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link

Xp it’s funny, I thought of Foxing when I heard this too. It’s funny that Alfred points out the TVOTR comparison here, cause I thought of them on my first few listens of the Foxing LP

galaxy brian (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 November 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

The spectacular confidence of "It's Not Living" gives me shivers.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 November 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link

the intro of give yourself a try is super close to disorder i don't see how that's debatable i mean just sing "i got the spirit but lose the feeling" over it

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 November 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link

xp unquestionably the album highlight for me

galaxy brian (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 November 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

i think it's funny that they directly quoted disorder after matty previously talking in interviews about how he didn't really feel any connection to the musical legacy of manchester at all

ufo, Friday, 30 November 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

lol agreed

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

i love “it’s not living.” i really like that there’s an s/t-style song on here that’s better than most of the s/t (“she’s american” performed the same function on the last record)

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

https://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/42414/1/matty-healy-the-1975-brief-inquiry-online-relationships-interview

this interview has a few more details on how Notes is coming along

ufo, Friday, 30 November 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link

so “I love america” is basically an emo rap song

k3vin k., Friday, 30 November 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

matty said that was the intention yeah

really looking forward to hearing whatever they're doing to make Roy Hargrove fit on the Burial-esque track

ufo, Friday, 30 November 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

matty peep

Spottie, Friday, 30 November 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

"i like america" is so fucking good

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

upright bass on mine? alright cool. this album is all over the place stylistically.

Spottie, Friday, 30 November 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

sympathetic to anyone who thinks the singles are the best stuff here after a few listens bc i spent a few days not knowing what to make of the record, but "i like america," "how to draw/petrichor," "i couldn't be more in love," and "i always wanna die sometimes" are pretty easily up there with "sincerity" and "love it if we made it" for me

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link

I Couldnt Be More In Love is stunning. A worthy successor to If I Believe You. Wish he reached out to El Debarge to join in on it tho.

Spottie, Friday, 30 November 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link

that dazed digital interview is awesome, prob the best i've read this cycle

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link

it's interesting... on the one hand matty is very adamant that the band isn't beholden to anyone or anything. on the other, they released the most single-esque songs as singles before the album, and went thru with a traditional album cycle, which colors how you hear the rest of the record. he said to me that he thinks he owes that kind of roll out to their fans, but i also think they should just surprise drop the next album and let their music be heard that way.

ultimately i think the end of the record is pretty stunning tho

J0rdan S., Friday, 30 November 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link

so we were choosing between thx 1138 & sans soleil as the visual accompaniment for our listening party but at the last second ending up going with... wall-e

caulk the wagon and float it, Friday, 30 November 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link

it was a glorious combination on so many levels

caulk the wagon and float it, Friday, 30 November 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link

I Couldnt Be More In Love is stunning. A worthy successor to If I Believe You. Wish he reached out to El Debarge to join in on it tho.

― Spottie, Friday, November 30, 2018 9:17 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ah fuck, i'm gonna be dreaming about this for the rest of my life

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link

then once the 1975 album ended we had just enough time left in the movie to listen to Mellow Waves which was also delightful

caulk the wagon and float it, Friday, 30 November 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link

i feel like with petrichor they nod to the blocky, shimmering electronic geegaws that defined the last album, placing it early on the album so they could move on to their new thing. i really loved that old thing but i love this new thing too. the production is so balanced and crisp and warm with so much more dynamic range than any chart-topping pop albums that get released now right??

i feel like this fits neatly into a trio in my mind with the mr twin sister and robyn albums, all artists i love (whose records were my most anticipated releases of the fall), making these patient, spacious, calmly exploratory albums that feel like such a gift when there's so much music and information competing for my attention

caulk the wagon and float it, Friday, 30 November 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link

^^^ feel like i'm gonna think this is otm in a few days

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link

re: the intros, the first one pulled me into the mood of the band, the second one made me cry, and the third one scared the shit out of me

i like it now though, it kinda fits the loose jazzy vibe that reappears on later tracks

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 17:01 (five years ago) link

I'm not as invested or versed in this band as y'all
but I really like this, it's a great pop/rock record

It's odd, because it seems like ppl like this less than the last one but this one clicks with me in a way the others didn't

I also thing the whole releasing half the album in drips and drabs kinda sucks and I like all those songs better in context

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 November 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

sympathetic to anyone who thinks the singles are the best stuff here after a few listens bc i spent a few days not knowing what to make of the record, but "i like america," "how to draw/petrichor," "i couldn't be more in love," and "i always wanna die sometimes" are pretty easily up there with "sincerity" and "love it if we made it" for me

― princess of hell (BradNelson)

otm

Nourry, Friday, 30 November 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link

i know it's probably too early to do this, but what the hell.

a possible top:

love it if we made it
i like america & america likes me
it’s not living (if it’s not with you)
i always wanna die (sometimes)
sincerity is scary
i couldn’t be more in love
TooTimeTooTimeTooTime
how to draw / petrichor
surround by heads and bodies
mine
give yourself a try
inside your mind
be my mistake
the man who married a robot / love theme

Nourry, Friday, 30 November 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link

Reading that Dazed interview ... would any reviews have mentioned OK Computer had there not been a robot-voiced spoken word track? Because I otherwise don't hear OK Computer at all, any more than I heard it in the last record, which was also not at all.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link

lots of gorgeous music on this album

flopson, Friday, 30 November 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

Matt Healy has talked about his goals for The 1975's third album, and he's used Radiohead's OK Computer and The Smiths The Queen Is Dead as an example of what he's aiming for.

As reported by NME, speaking in the latest issue of Q Magazine, the frontman revealed: “If you look at third albums, OK Computer or The Queen Is Dead, that’s what we need to do.”

Number None, Friday, 30 November 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

and i
always wanna diiiiiiiiie
sometiiiimes
aaaaaaaaah

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link

Matt Healy could have said he was aiming for TLC's "Crazysexycool" and Tom Petty's "Long After Dark" and we'd see that popping up in reviews, too.

"Sincerity is Scary" has some drunken J. Dilla production vibes.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link

Listening to "Surrounded By Heads And Bodies" I can believe in a music journalist making the mental leap to Radiohead while listening to it, or even Healy making the mental leap while writing it

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Friday, 30 November 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

Maybe? I don't really hear it. Vs. "The Man Who Married a Robot," which yeah, that was done on purpose.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link

there’s some radioheadey moments on here, fewer than on ILIWYS tho

flopson, Friday, 30 November 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

Yeah, yet I don't recall anyone really bringing up Radiohead with the last album, either.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

Give Yourself A Try sounds a lot like Radio Dept to me

omar little, Friday, 30 November 2018 18:30 (five years ago) link

"Sincerity is Scary" has some drunken J. Dilla production vibes.

reminds me of donnie trumpet's surf

galaxy brian (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 November 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link

Oh wait, you mean those few measures of sort of menacing stuff in "Surrounded By Heads And Bodies?" Yeah, fleeting, but it's there!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2018 18:43 (five years ago) link

also "i always wanna die" doesn't not sound like bends-era radiohead

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link

i really think 'love it if we made it' is one of the best songs on here, replay value wise especially ... i feel like ppl diverge from it because its so trad compared to some of the more outlier type musical choices but lyrically + musically it's an exceptional emotional experience

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 30 November 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

doh I meant "give yourself a try"

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 30 November 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

obv everyone loves 'love it if we made it.' 'give yourself a try' is more trad-1975 but i think it's a really incredible version of that.

not saying the album doesn't live up to it or anything -- i need to spend more time w it -- just reacting to tracklist rankings that suggest 'give yourself a try' is bottom tier

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 30 November 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

i love all of the bright little guitar embellishments that burn behind the "disorder" riff around the second verse/chorus

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

i would love an ep or short alb of ‘give yourself a try’ type stuff

flopson, Friday, 30 November 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

more and more i'm like "oh yeah of course 'sincerity is scary' is the best 1975 song"

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

I don't get this band at all nor do I have anything interesting to say about it yet here I am anyway. I'm vicariously enjoying your enthusiasm, though, especially Brad's.

pomenitul, Friday, 30 November 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link

it's strange how we put more faith in whatever Healy says about intentions than we do with most other artists we discuss

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 November 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link

Antichrist

— matty (@Truman_Black) November 30, 2018

k3vin k., Friday, 30 November 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

i would love an ep or short alb of ‘give yourself a try’ type stuff

― flopson, Friday, November 30, 2018 1:52 PM (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the first album!!

k3vin k., Friday, 30 November 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

otm

Spottie, Friday, 30 November 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

/their best album by far *ducks*

Spottie, Friday, 30 November 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

I always feel that way (sometimes)

k3vin k., Friday, 30 November 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link

that dazed digital interview is awesome, prob the best i've read this cycle

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 30 November 2018 4:18 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah the stuff about phone addiction seemed super sharp to me.

Tim F, Friday, 30 November 2018 20:06 (five years ago) link

it's strange how we put more faith in whatever Healy says about intentions than we do with most other artists we discuss

― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 November 2018 7:39 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Perhaps this reflects that the band's stylistic parameters and affiliations seem so amorphous and omnivorous (have we updated the list of the artist comparisons from earlier in the thread?) that it's like listeners need Matt as a tour guide in order to understand how it fits together and where it's supposed to be going - "oh, this building over here is where the Chancellor of the Exchequer used to sit, now it's the Museum of Modern Art..."

Tim F, Friday, 30 November 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link

I'd rather run into the museum's outer wall without looking

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 November 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link

tl;dr – This is my favorite album of 2018.

Loved the Joy Division influence in "Give Yourself a Try" since my first listen. Love the abstract guitar during the verses. Nice sequencing following up that propulsive opener with "TooTimeTooTimeTooTime," which may be the catchiest thing they've ever done. Lyrics blur the lines between another woman vs. behind-her-back drug usage. I've been there with heroin so tons of lyrics from this album are resonating with me, not just in terms of talking about drug addiction, but the mental frailty and obsessive nature that comes along with it. It takes about 3 minutes for "How to Draw/Petrichor" to really get started, but once it kicks in ... holy shit, it's really something. First half of the track is a pretty hard pump-fake to the UK garage-sounding second half of the track. Seems like there's more vocal manipulation on this new album than on past efforts. Pretty firmly in the camp that "Love It If We Made It" is the best, most poignant song of the year. (Tell me something I didn't know.) Not in love with "Be My Mistake" but it's a good change of pace and doesn't overstay its welcome at first listen in sequence. Absolutely in love with "Sincerity Is Scary," love the jazz instrumentation. Reminds me of Kendrick's "LOVE." and D'Angelo's stuff more than anything previously released by this band. Sounds incredible and really opens up on good headphones! I'm sure there have been comparisons to Bon Iver for "I Like America and America Likes Me." but I haven't read the thread in full here. Sounds like something Bon Iver would sing over a light trap beat, which is pretty awesome considering how it reads on paper. The repeated lyrical couplet "I'm scared of dying / It's fine" is one of my favorite moments on the album. At risk of sounding like a lazy music journalist, "The Man Who Married a Robot" really does sound like the 2018 answer to "Fitter Happier" in the best possible way. First chord of "Inside Your Mind" feels like time is frozen when I hear it. Might be my favorite song on the whole album. Still wish the shoegaze-y guitar part blossoming in the final chorus would be a little more Sonic Youth, a little less Raveonettes (as much as I love both). The hooks all across "It's Not Living..." are glorious and catchy as all heavens. Gotta admit that "Surrounded by Heads and Bodies" drags a little bit (like the end of the last album) but it segues into "Mine" so it's still hard to complain. The instrumentation in that track is gorgeous (again – headphones!) and sparse in the best way possible. Sounds like something from a vocal jazz album! Really subtle and beautiful. Not sure how I feel about the schmaltzy penultimate track yet, but the closing song is a lighters-held-high anthem, and I couldn't be happier overall. We have 7th row tickets to see the 1975 at Red Rocks in a few months, and they now have enough songs to fill a 20-song setlist with something special from start to finish. Great album and a really compelling listen!

Taken as a whole, I can really relate to the 100-miles-a-minute approach of Matty's lyrics, the ground they cover, how his brain darts from political unrest to personal turmoil to romance to the world at large. It probably seems scatterbrained and incoherent to some people, but that's exactly how I think, too, and how my brain works. I can't really think of an album in the last few years that feels more tailor-made for my own life experiences and thought process. Absolutely love this album! And yes, those of us who picked these guys as their "new favorite band" really couldn't have done any better. Hoping the next album is similarly incredible.

ilxor, Friday, 30 November 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link

Just finished my first listen to this and will definitely be giving this a few more listens before I fully make up my mind how I feel about this one, but so far I agree with kitchen person regarding the intro (I don't like what they've done with it, I find the sound of it obnoxious and felt it was quite a bad start to an album I'd been looking forward to) and I agree with imago in the sense that I don't think this is better than the previous one (which I now consider to be one of my favourite albums released this decade) ... I thought the production on 'Give Yourself a Try' was lacking, but 'TooTimeTooTimeTooTime' is fucking great, and the album got better from there.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 1 December 2018 00:49 (five years ago) link

no one cares

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 1 December 2018 00:53 (five years ago) link

I'm already going in for another listen, for me that's a good sign.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 1 December 2018 00:55 (five years ago) link

*hears opening chords of "inside your mind"* *every lighter in the arena ignites*

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, November 26, 2018 12:34 AM (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this post ages badly once you get to the lyrics lol

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 1 December 2018 00:56 (five years ago) link

incredibly dark song set to the chords from idk 'baba o'reilly'

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 1 December 2018 00:56 (five years ago) link

'How to Draw/Petrichor' strikes me as being one of the best things this band have ever done.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 1 December 2018 00:59 (five years ago) link

this post ages badly once you get to the lyrics lol

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, November 30, 2018 5:56 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol you don't say

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 1 December 2018 01:02 (five years ago) link

what i love about that song is how it sounds enormous, as if it were actually occurring in an actual arena, but incredibly lonely (bc the arena is empty). its lack of development kinda confirms that it's a thought spiral (which is one of the reasons why it reminds me of "me")

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 1 December 2018 01:12 (five years ago) link

listened to this 4 or 5 times today. i was craving more 80s rock moves but otherwise i wasn’t let down. i think the ‘too many ballads’ problem is worse on ILIWYS

flopson, Saturday, 1 December 2018 01:26 (five years ago) link

'Inside Your Mind' comes across to me as musically being a slower variation of 'Give Yourself a Try' ...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 1 December 2018 02:15 (five years ago) link

just came back from a release party in Chicago. 80% girls and young women, and also probably like 50% POC as well, which is a nice reminder to receive when you're a little too embedded in music media discourse. heard twitter mentioned a bunch of times, which i found funny—there's a definite difference between "Twitter Gen Zers" and "Insta Gen Zers" if that makes sense, and the 1975 feels informed by the former, feeding in from tumblr as many of them have over the years.

austinb, Saturday, 1 December 2018 02:45 (five years ago) link

i am starting to utterly love this album. the only speedbumps for me are "be my mistake," "sincerity is scary," and the robot song... and even so i'm not skipping any of them.

petey v, Saturday, 1 December 2018 03:26 (five years ago) link

i might be crazy, but some of the phrasing in "i like america" reminds me of "my teenage dream ended"

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Saturday, 1 December 2018 04:50 (five years ago) link

Ah, of course the intro is actually the piano chords from 'Sincerity is Scary' colliding with "robotic" vocals, that makes quite a fair bit of sense thematically.

Album is sounding even better on third listen.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:47 (five years ago) link

love this album

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 1 December 2018 09:28 (five years ago) link

what a closer

they shud do slapp happy next

nxd, Saturday, 1 December 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link

"how to draw/petrichor" is really sublime, what can't this band do

very legal and very cool (k3vin k.), Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link

turrican is onto something when he notes the glacial pace of "inside your mind" -- it does almost sound like something they slowed down to 0.7x. it sort of seems like the polar opposite of "give yourself a try" though

very legal and very cool (k3vin k.), Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link

god this is so fucking good

überweiss, Sunday, 2 December 2018 02:47 (five years ago) link

what about
THESE FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELINGS I'VE GOT

überweiss, Sunday, 2 December 2018 02:48 (five years ago) link

"inside your mind", "i couldn't be more in love" and "i always wanna die (sometimes)" immediately the 3 best songs i've ever heard

überweiss, Sunday, 2 December 2018 02:49 (five years ago) link

your memories are sceneries
for things you said but never really meant

überweiss, Sunday, 2 December 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

Y'know, for all of the use of autotune as effect on this album, I feel that the record also contains some of Healy's best singing, particularly on the ballads/slower tracks: 'Inside Your Mind', 'Surrounded by Heads and Bodies' and particularly 'I Couldn't Be More in Love' ... I know that there's been some criticism about the number of ballads on this new one upthread, but I genuinely believe that many of the ballads are highlights.

Having said that, if I was asked to pick favourites from this album, I'd probably near enough name the whole album as this point.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 2 December 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link

Another thing I'm beginning to appreciate about this band is the way they place some of their older musical ideas in new contexts. It's not just that they have a different version of their "theme tune" on each album, it's the way 'Lostmyhead' is an extension of 'Facedown', or the way 'How to Draw' is treated in comparison to the earlier piano-led version. I suppose the similarity between 'Settle Down' and 'She's American' was intentional, too.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 2 December 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

we're fucking in a car
shooting heroin

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 2 December 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

increasingly convinced that Love It If We Made It is song of the year

ufo, Sunday, 2 December 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

Surrounded by heads and bodies is only me and Ross. Ross played bass. I played everything else. George and Hann produced it. And this is the only song where George sings a line #abiior

— matty (@Truman_Black) December 1, 2018

You’re supposed to be like ‘you played drums!?’ Not all ‘which line!? ooooo I love George’

— matty (@Truman_Black) December 1, 2018

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 2 December 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link

increasingly convinced that Love It If We Made It is song of the year

― ufo, Sunday, December 2, 2018 4:04 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't know if it's my song of the year, but it's one of them. I actually like it far more than the song it's obviously influenced by. Have you seen any of the live footage of it yet? It gets the crowd really fucking amped.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 2 December 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link

Agree there are too many ballads, agree ballads are the best part. Also think the album's great strength is that it is explicitly about heroin, which is sort of a shift from the expected coy shit a la, say, Jason Pierce.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link

Inside Your Mind is so pretty.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

i put on the eps this morning. i still can't believe how good this song is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKQox1ztjKA

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

and why stay if you hate it so much?
you think you're well cool
you just write about sex and killing yourself and how you hardly ever went to school

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

It's a great song. That and 'Antichrist' would be two easy picks for me to put on a personal best of.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link

I've got to admit that this new album was kind of a tough nut to crack, but I put it on when I went for a run this morning and it finally clicked. Not that it's particularly good music to run to, but it really did make me pay attention to the fine balancing act he is doing. It's a particularly compelling juxtaposition that he does not seem like some navel-gazing sad sack, just kind of compulsively transparent, or at least the character he thinks he is playing is.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

I'm actually really glad that I waited until the album was released to hear the likes of 'Love It If We Made It' and 'TOOTIMETOOTIMETOOTIME', because I just know I would have played those songs into the ground by now.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link

Trying to decide whether “I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes)” is more like Geneva’s “Tranquilizer” or Puressence’s “This Feeling”.

Tim F, Monday, 3 December 2018 08:42 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzfKn-hlZwo

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 3 December 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

xpost -- pvmic for you and me because you and I might be the only people on the planet, including members of those two other bands, to know what's being talked about.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 December 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link

It's kinda amazing to me that they didn't end an album with anything as big and epic as 'I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes)' until their third one. Their first two end in a far more low-key way.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 3 December 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link

the way they've gone from really terrible music videos for the first album to some of the great ones they've done for the last two is such a turnaround

ufo, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 03:27 (five years ago) link

Trying to decide whether “I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes)” is more like Geneva’s “Tranquilizer” or Puressence’s “This Feeling”.

I think "Tranquilizer"? Which I seem to have bought both CD singles of back in the day. “I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes)” is a lot better than either though.

The first minute of "I Couldn't Be More In Love" (and to some extent the rest of the song) are very Provision-era Scritti Politti to me.

toby, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 10:00 (five years ago) link

I think I have to come clean and admit this was never a metaphor. It's not about a girl. You know what it's about. And I've always felt weird about it. And I'm kind of sorry https://t.co/FQj88Z60nq via @YouTube

— matty (@Truman_Black) December 3, 2018

I just think it's important to recognise 'Medicine' considering 'It's Not Living' and the two perspectives. It's a journey; and it happens. And you're wrong and you're right at the same time. I love you guys you make my life worth living

— matty (@Truman_Black) December 3, 2018

And it makes me sad because I think Medicine is my favourite song and I don't know what that means

— matty (@Truman_Black) December 3, 2018

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 14:33 (five years ago) link

i liked but didn't really *get* "medicine" until i saw it live, both times it was the best part of their set

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7HzyUxtgco

matty <3

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link

OMG somehow I have forgotten about Medicine since it came out - I keep all the albums and EPs on my phone except this never made it. Can't believe I've haven't been playing next to me/fallingforyou etc these last few years.

toby, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link

FUCKING IN A CAR
SHOOTING HEROIN

didn't think it possible but this songs's even bigger in the album context. strolling through the album for the first time rn.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

This is great but 'The Man Who Married A Robot' is a cringe worthy OKC rip-off that should have been left off :(

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

The 1975 do not need *STATEMENT* songs or interludes ffs

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

agreed. this band (who I love) should hire me to edit down their tracklists and sequence their albums.

alpine static, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

I fully endorse them hiring you as tracklist trimmer.

Rest of the album is obv as expected, great. The closer, wow.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link

Listened twice to this one, it’s better than their last one but I still don’t get them. Even the Disorder hommage (?) makes me want to listen to Joy Division instead and god knows I hate that band.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1MYxNyeoedoJw

this is still going on but i think it's getting close to the end, they're playing "chocolate" rn

this may be the first normal haircut matty's ever had and it's weird

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGpZaK9ApqI

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:10 (five years ago) link

the versions of sincerity is scary and love it if we made it are rly great

this rip might be better, i think the audio gets off track in the first link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfXQN_76VqM&t=324s

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:44 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJm6tSWn418

I'm listening to this one and the audio has been good about halfway through. and agreed about those two songs in particular -- he really belts on "love it if we made it" in a way you don't see much from him

very legal and very cool (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

what a fucking ham, man. I love him

very legal and very cool (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:53 (five years ago) link

I think I finally get love it if we made it

galaxy brian (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:54 (five years ago) link

watching the whole thing now. i just said it earlier today but "medicine" is so fucking awesome live

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 03:33 (five years ago) link

my friend told me last night she got me a ticket for seeing them end of next month, p excited for this

final track probs my fave of the new gems, but love it if we made it gonna be an anthem for this age i think

nxd, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 09:18 (five years ago) link

ill be a little disappointed if they don't close their shows with i always wanna die this tour

ufo, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 09:26 (five years ago) link

Was kiiiinda wondering what he'd say when this quote start going around.

This bit of me talking in an interview reads as patronising, uninformed and reductive. And to be fair it is. And I’d like to apologise....(thread) pic.twitter.com/UMO62lzVgn

— matty (@Truman_Black) December 5, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link

Milkshake Matt

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link

What pub was that in

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link

matty is cancelled

single bed mentality (||||||||), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link

mods delete thread

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link

matt tea

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link

whiney assuming you have some #bars in the chamber you've been holding back on 1975

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link

Nah, record is pretty cool, though I could certainly do without the post-Bon Iver "Earnest white man pants into vocoder" shtick and the "What if Kitty Pryde wrote Fitter Happier" interlude. And also, of course, the entire discourse around this record.

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

this happening in fader ... lol

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIUQeSOFm0M

fuck

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

wow that's maybe better than the album version

ufo, Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

yeah i thought the same thing

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link

still their best song ever, hurt my feelings all over again

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link

Christ, that was beautiful. I'd love to hear 'I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes)' like this.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

The back half of the album ('Inside Your Mind' to 'I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes)') has become my favourite part of the album now.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 6 December 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff that acoustic paris is

single bed mentality (||||||||), Friday, 7 December 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

You win, you lose, you sing the blues
and there's no point in buying concrete shoes
I refuse

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 8 December 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

"Love It If We Made It" = Pitchfork's #1 song of 2018

jaymc, Monday, 10 December 2018 06:09 (five years ago) link

damn they went all in

flopson, Monday, 10 December 2018 06:11 (five years ago) link

oh my god

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 10 December 2018 06:13 (five years ago) link

Finally have heard this album through twice through. The "problem" is the previously released tracks largely are my favorites, so I don't have the same urge to relisten to it as the last two albums, though I do like some of the new songs well enough - "Surrounded by Heads and Bodies" is one of their better quiet tracks and "I Always Wanna Die" is strong too (sounds like a very specific song that I can't put my finger on). But a few of these, like "The Man Who Married a Robot" and "Inside Your Mind", I don't see growing on me. I'll probably like this album a lot more in a year when I haven't heard any of the songs in a while

Oh I also somehow had never listened to "Love It If We Made It" with headphones before. It has different bass notes than I had assumed (can't hear notes that low on my laptop speakers), and a crazy good bassline in the second part of the chorus!

Vinnie, Monday, 10 December 2018 06:21 (five years ago) link

'inside your mind' is incredible--one of my favorites

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 10 December 2018 07:45 (five years ago) link

"Love It If We Made It" = Pitchfork's #1 song of 2018

― jaymc

i wan't expecting this at all.

Nourry, Monday, 10 December 2018 10:38 (five years ago) link

I’ve decided that love it if we made it is my least favorite 1975 song.

Celtoes Adidas (Spottie), Monday, 10 December 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link

i thought so too for a while and i thought people were taking crazy pills for breathlessly praising it, but then i watched a live version and it clicked.

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 December 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

I’ve decided that love it if we made it is my least favorite 1975 song.

― Celtoes Adidas (Spottie), Monday, December 10, 2018 11:05 AM (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wow craziness

k3vin k., Monday, 10 December 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link

ive tried it out in different settings, watched it live as well. it plods along and his delivery is way too "we didnt start the fire" for my liking. it's ok when the hook opens up but it just reminds me of other (better) 1975 songs that came before it.

Celtoes Adidas (Spottie), Monday, 10 December 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link

Just listened to the whole album, which confirmed that it's not really my thing (the music isn't depressing enough, I don't care about the lyrics), but I liked it more than I thought I would.

pomenitul, Monday, 10 December 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link

This RYM review made me laugh, though:

Whoa. Like whoa. This is awful. I've rated 1,195 albums as of right now according to RYM, and this is one of the only 9 albums that I've given .5 stars. Everything about this is just... heinous, obnoxious, and annoying. After the newest 21 Pilots came out and I found myself actually enjoying it, I was excited for this album as well. I disliked Love It If We Made It as a teaser, but I was still slightly excited, but nope. It's like someone went on millennial twitter and wrote down a couple important memes and/or news items, and then put them in a horrendous sounding slog of autotune and electropop that just sounds like total shit. I don't enjoy a single track on this album except for maybe Be My Mistake, and that's just because it sounds vaguely reminiscent of an older Band of Horses song or something, although I could just be incorrect. This album is not revolutionary or exciting, it just rehashes cultural events that have happened over the past, I don't know, year? I'm surprised I didn't catch a reference to XXXTENTACION or something else equally embarrassing, although there is a Lil Peep reference somewhere on Love It If We Made It. I am a millennial, and I love when music speaks to things that are entirely millennial, but this just feels like some old dude in a production office said "Ya know what we should do?? Capitalize directly on millennial culture and the modern political-sphere without having any idea what it actually means!" It's just too absolutely cynical. It sounds like generic electropop, (I have absolutely no idea why, but I read some articles saying how experimental and avant-garde this is supposed to be) and offends me on a musical and cultural level. If you want to listen to something good and actually representative of being alive in this online age, check out Wide Awake!! by Parquet Courts, or Pure Comedy (as pretentious as it is) by Father John Misty. Listen to Chapo Trap House or some other millennial political podcast. Get high on a weeknight and watch Evangelion. Just literally do fucking anything but listen to this piece of fake "woke" garbage. This is painful and insulting to me and should be to anyone who considers themselves in tune with modern culture and respects genuine artistry and intelligence in their music. This album is how it feels when you open twitter or instagram and you see an awful meme that was cooked up by some corporation that belongs on the "Fellow Kids" subreddit. Please just go away with this pandering garbage and come back with something interesting and actually representative of the human experience for those who grew up alongside and with the internet. This album is the musical equivalent of the cultural saturation as evident with movies like the new Star Wars films and Marvel Movies. Get the pandering BS out of here, it's just awful. This isn't art, it's product.

Also. Just because an album has an interlude with a robot voice in it does not mean it is "This Generation's OK COMPUTER."

.5 or 1/10.

pomenitul, Monday, 10 December 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link

today "prominent dude critics talk about the 1975 on Twitter" day and it is ... not good

alpine static, Monday, 10 December 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

saw them described as kasabian for men who know what emotional labour is which struck me as supremely dumb

single bed mentality (||||||||), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

Expect to see that RYM review up onscreen behind Matty by the second leg of this tour

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link

This is a great burn

"Love It If We Made It" is literally a Skillz year end roundup smothered in '80s sophisti-pop sauce, but okay.

— Craig Bro Dude (@CraigSJ) December 10, 2018

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

lol ...is it

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link

From which part of the grocery store shelf did he get the sauce?

*cues Turn Back the Clock*

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link

idgi at all

billstevejim, Monday, 10 December 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link

lyrics of ‘love it if we made it’ are objectively good

flopson, Monday, 10 December 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

I like it and their schtick but there is an extent to which politics and life are so on the nose right now that both satire and commentary seem difficult ... the worst example of this is like idk SNL or something. in that 1975 go for a lot of commentary on ‘the times we live in’ perhaps they set themselves up for confronting that difficulty more often than most

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 10 December 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link

starting a petition to replace “be my mistake” with “102”

k3vin k., Monday, 10 December 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link

Why do I feel like matty would kind of like that ridiculous RYM review up there

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 10 December 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

hahahaha that Skillz reference is A+

is he still doing those?

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 December 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link

Listening to Kick by INXS this morning, and Aussie box o blues cliches aside, there are some real 1975 vibes.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

xp oh yes https://youtu.be/ozlhYYBfWGk

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

lyrics of ‘love it if we made it’ are objectively good

I find the lyrics to this song moving, emotionally, but also obsequious and pandering and far far away from what I'd point to and say "here, observe these lyrics, which are objectively good."

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link

I know I keep hammering on this but Pitchfork also said the best song of the 1970s was the one that goes "MICKEY MOUSE HAS GROWN UP A COW" so lets not pretend that "POISON ME DADDY" isn't the modern internet irony bro version

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link

I like the song, uncomfortably so. Reminds of the criticism Springsteen got for "Born in the U.S.A." It's easy to imagine a Trumpist chanting I FUCKED HER LIKE A BITCH in his car. A beat that irresistible shreds the irony.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

OUTSIDE KENT STATE IN DIAPERS GOT A RARE GROYPER MURDER MY PUSSY GRITTY CUCK A DOODLE DOOOOO

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

BLICKY GOT THE STIFFY, MURDER MY PUSSY GRITTY, IN COMET PING PONG, QANON,

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link

DAVE DO NOT READ THS TARA HELLO SANTAYANA GOODBYE

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

I find the lyrics to this song moving, emotionally, but also obsequious and pandering and far far away from what I'd point to and say "here, observe these lyrics, which are objectively good."

― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:24 (three hours ago) Permalink

How so? Bc they don’t say (and that’s bad, btw) at the end?

(And that’s bad, btw) will end up a lyric on the next album lol

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

I know I keep hammering on this but Pitchfork also said the best song of the 1970s was the one that goes "MICKEY MOUSE HAS GROWN UP A COW" so lets not pretend that "POISON ME DADDY" isn't the modern internet irony bro version

― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, December 11, 2018 1:05 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Most of the modern internet irony bros don’t seem to like this

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

we need a thread called Modern Internet Irony Bros or at least a mid '90s Blur dub melodica instrumental with the same name

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

xpost Dude, the Gawker EIC was Tweeting about the 1975

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

You mean the ilx poster who was brainwashed by Tom Ewing ? He’s a hand wringing sincerity bro like all the new radicals fans pumping up the 1975

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link

I'm not gonna get into hair-splitting arguments about irony bros on the 1975 thread

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:48 (five years ago) link

I mean that in the sense that we are all brainwashed by Tom Ewing

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

Saying max is a “irony bro” is a mega misreading of his place in teh discourse

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

fwiw I follow a lot of lronic hipster left ppl on Twitter and all they could talk about when the singles list came out was how they either hated or were profoundly baffled by them

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link

Yes. They like parquet courts

Max is being somewhat (tho I don’t think disingenuously) iconoclastic in his support, and while he’s conversant with irony bros I think he tends to be pretty sincere

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

there was some really funny twitter post last year that I can't find that was like "I wish there was a Pitchfork for indie rock"

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

A Brief Inquiry Into Hair-Splitting Arguments About Irony Bros.

Would have been a better title.

Position Position, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link

What idiot called it 'A Brief Inquiry Into Online Relationships' and not 'I'm Literally Shaking RN'

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

max is like a previous gen irony bro imo. he's graduated from irony and now writes posts titled 'Why Mark Zuckerberg is FaceBook's Biggest Liability'

flopson, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link

I find the lyrics to this song moving, emotionally, but also obsequious and pandering and far far away from what I'd point to and say "here, observe these lyrics, which are objectively good."

― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:24 (three hours ago) Permalink

i don't think it's obsequious. like most of us i'm predisposed to not like songs that are too topical and try to capture the zeitgeist or wtv, but they pulled it off

flopson, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 20:47 (five years ago) link

What idiot called it 'A Brief Inquiry Into Online Relationships' and not 'I'm Literally Shaking RN'

― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, December 11, 2018 2:14 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

See, THIS is an ironybro post

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 20:47 (five years ago) link

There’s probably an implied “(and that’s bad, btw)” already on this album after “the smell of your hair reminds me of her feet.”

Tim F, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

lol

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

i don't think it's obsequious. like most of us i'm predisposed to not like songs that are too topical and try to capture the zeitgeist or wtv, but they pulled it off

Fair enough. Maybe I should give them more credit for that success!

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link

The chorus is cathartic af but I feel like that just adds to the bathos.

Not sure if intentional but probably best captures the zeitgeist in how empty and myopic the title sentiment feels relative to the anxiety of the verses.

tsrobodo, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

Yes good post agreed

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link

Something about it’s concept + “give yourself a try” which seem very rhetorically clever, ways of standing out by framing things in a way that reflects our time better

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link

I think "Give Yourself a Try" does it better by default. Self deprecation and wit are never not relatable.

tsrobodo, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

I do think the first couplet "We're fucking in a car, shooting heroin / saying controversial things just for the hell of it" is top-tier but I'm a sucker for meta

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link

There’s probably an implied “(and that’s bad, btw)” already on this album after “the smell of your hair reminds me of her feet.”

― Tim F, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 4:10 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark

lol

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link

Tsrodobo otm

Idk there’s this unexamined western millenerian eschatological affect wherein being overwhelmed by apocalyptic feelings becomes its own sort of solipsistic romance rather than an impetus to build and make horizontal connections or fight

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 00:30 (five years ago) link

i mean it seems like thats what the song's about!

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 03:48 (five years ago) link

Yeah. But ... I think that feeling is bad. So that rubs weirdly against my feeling that the song is good. I guess it gets at the question of whether critique is possible via exaggeration/reduction or is it better to posit an alternative, to say nothing of the question as to whether art’s job is critique in the first place

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 04:55 (five years ago) link

i didnt get the impression that was tsrobodo's point exactly

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 05:47 (five years ago) link

maybe im wrong idk but i find it weirdly affirming that my experience of being ineffectual in a society that disempowers the individual is also an experience shared by others

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 06:40 (five years ago) link

"how to draw/petrichor" is becoming my favorite on the new album

k3vin k., Saturday, 15 December 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

ranked:

'I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes)'
'Inside Your Mind'
'Love It If We Made It'
'It's Not Living (If It's Not With You)'
'TooTimeTooTimeTooTime'
'How to Draw/Petrichor'
'Be My Mistake'
'I Couldn't Be More in Love'
'Surrounded by Heads and Bodies'
'Give Yourself a Try'
'I Like America & America Likes Me'
'Sincerity Is Scary'
'The Man Who Married a Robot/Love Theme'
'Mine'
'The 1975'

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 15 December 2018 22:38 (five years ago) link

"how to draw/petrichor" is becoming my favorite on the new album

whyyy is it not 12+ minutes

tpp, Thursday, 20 December 2018 14:33 (five years ago) link

It's a cool song, though I like the "How to Draw" half a little more. There's still a lot of songs in the back half of this album I can't really get into tho. Wish I could hear what you all hear in "Inside Your Mind". But others have grown a lot on me: "Sincerity is Scary" and "It's Not Living" are A+. So generous that this band continues to throw bones like "It's Not Living" to fans like me that adore the first album most

Vinnie, Thursday, 20 December 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link

Bon Iver must be lying in a ditch somewhere in the woods, wrapped up in fetus position and bawling his eyes out, because he knows he'll never write a song as gorgeous as 'I Couldn't Be More In Love'.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 28 December 2018 01:51 (five years ago) link

Editing to The 1975: pic.twitter.com/HdnukQJKjP

— monet p. thomas (@monetwithlove) December 30, 2018

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 30 December 2018 02:34 (five years ago) link

My brain has inserted a nonexistent Common verse at the end of Sincerity is Scary. 2 decades of Soulquarian conditioning at work.

tsrobodo, Sunday, 30 December 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-1975/2019/3arena-dublin-ireland-53947761.html

this tour's setlist looks great

from videos i've seen the lighting setup looks very very cool too of course

ufo, Saturday, 12 January 2019 04:23 (five years ago) link

wow that set list is just banger after banger

k3vin k., Saturday, 12 January 2019 04:59 (five years ago) link

also wild to think that the album hype cycle is about to start up again in only a month or two

ufo, Saturday, 12 January 2019 05:03 (five years ago) link

last years album kind of disappointing

flopson, Saturday, 12 January 2019 05:44 (five years ago) link

they better deliver

flopson, Saturday, 12 January 2019 05:45 (five years ago) link

wow, yeah, the setlist/videos look great - so great that I just bought tickets to see them on Friday, v excited.

toby, Saturday, 12 January 2019 08:42 (five years ago) link

Damn, setlist looks great. Might have to make a short trip to Singapore or Thailand to catch them

Vinnie, Saturday, 12 January 2019 08:50 (five years ago) link

Unsurprisingly they were completely awesome, can highly recommend this tour.

toby, Friday, 18 January 2019 23:43 (five years ago) link

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKJXFqEtPM

toby, Saturday, 19 January 2019 00:08 (five years ago) link

I was browsing in a shop a couple of days ago and they had 'She Way Out' blasting out really loud, and it actually sounded amazing at that volume. It got me revisiting the first album again.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 January 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link

and you realized it is awesome

k3vin k., Saturday, 19 January 2019 21:51 (five years ago) link

and I realised that while Healy has become a much better singer since and there's moments on the record that make me wince a bit on the vocal front, the album is packed with bangers.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 January 2019 22:00 (five years ago) link

I think Healy sings some of these songs better live nowadays. I really hated 'Chocolate' until I heard a recent live version, and the way they start that song off live with just the interlocking guitar licks is a neat touch!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 January 2019 22:07 (five years ago) link

'M.O.N.E.Y.' sounds great live tol. At this point, it's only really the closing track that I can't really get into.

I wish 'You' had been on this album.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 January 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link

*too

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 January 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link

Oh hey, look what we have here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC8TCeuGwtA

So excited to see them in April! Their stage setup looks incredible.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:36 (five years ago) link

"m.o.n.e.y." live was incredible, i wish they still played it

and "head.cars.bending" ofc but i've given up on that

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:37 (five years ago) link

They piss off xgau apparently:

I think they suck, and having streamed the new one at least three times without retaining anything but the internet skit will only consider explaining why for a minimum of a buck a word--as I just said, I don't do pans anymore. Congratulations, however, for not calling them a "rock band." Rock bands still oughta, you know, rock (for better or worse--here's to you, Foo Fighters and Queens of the Stone Age). I note as well that you are not from the United Kingdom, the spawning ground of the 1975 delusion. Don't let me stop you--stick to what you believe. But don't kid yourself if you find your faith faltering.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:41 (five years ago) link

good

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:42 (five years ago) link

lol

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:46 (five years ago) link

have there been any high-quality youtubes of recent shows? I can't find any right now

k3vin k., Saturday, 26 January 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link

Where is that Christgau quote from? That is hilarious.

I Am Sporadicus (I M Losted), Saturday, 26 January 2019 23:17 (five years ago) link

I hate to admit it it but “love it if we made it” has found it way into my head and I’ve played it non stop this week.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 27 January 2019 07:39 (five years ago) link

Popped into my head this morning too! Clear highpoint of this album cycle imo

imago, Sunday, 27 January 2019 08:52 (five years ago) link

I was just rewatching the video of it from the O2 linked above. Even though I was anticipating it for the whole week before it still completely blew me away live.

toby, Sunday, 27 January 2019 09:28 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKJXFqEtPM

apparently i missed this from two weeks ago but it's great

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:29 (five years ago) link

I posted that upthread two weeks ago! But I guess I used a mobile link and it didn't embed.

But yeah it's great, they (unsurprisingly) use it as the backdrop when they play it live and it works really well.

toby, Saturday, 2 February 2019 11:11 (five years ago) link

My appreciation of that one has only increased - I thought it was a bit formless on first listen, but over time I've realised just how cathartic it is to bellow along to.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link

The back half of the album ('Inside Your Mind' to 'I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes)') has become my favourite part of the album now.

this is so OTM

campreverb, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link

this performance is so good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMcDpHcXRiQ

J0rdan S., Thursday, 21 February 2019 05:26 (five years ago) link

awesome

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Thursday, 21 February 2019 05:54 (five years ago) link

I agree. Wonder if the next decade'll be as kind to them as this one has been.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 21 February 2019 08:17 (five years ago) link

oh my god that performance is wonderful

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 February 2019 01:20 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

the 1975 - a brief inquiry into online relationships poll

k3vin k., Monday, 18 March 2019 21:17 (five years ago) link

having one of those nights where their amniotic ambient stuff sounds like the best music ever... menswear, me, head.cars.bending, haunt/bed, so far it's alright, fallingforyou... jesus h

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, July 24, 2018 1:00 AM (eight months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

k3vin k., Saturday, 30 March 2019 05:21 (five years ago) link

Yeah, throw 'Lostmyhead' onto that pile too, which is one of my favourite ever tracks of theirs.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 30 March 2019 22:31 (five years ago) link

I just love this band so much

k3vin k., Saturday, 30 March 2019 23:38 (five years ago) link

I saw them last weekend in Buenos Aires. It was really, really good. A very trimmed down setlist, no instrumentals, just a non-stop barrage of hits. Matt looked way better than the last time, much more engaged with the audience than in 2017. The projections are amazing, they've really upped the ante with the production values this time. The final performance is "Sex" and it's in-fucking-credible.

There's a recording of the performance here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSqH_95uAVI&t=1748s. You guys over the equator are in for a treat with this tour.

cpl593H, Thursday, 4 April 2019 13:04 (five years ago) link

Notes On A Conditional Form pic.twitter.com/0HBcT8D3Ud

— matty (@Truman_Black) April 14, 2019

looks like the build up to Notes is starting

ufo, Monday, 15 April 2019 06:16 (five years ago) link

worth noting over here, i guess, that their Coachella performance was absolutely 10/10

alpine static, Monday, 15 April 2019 06:35 (five years ago) link

I didn't catch the Coachella performance as it would have been silly o'clock in the morning in the UK when it was broadcasted, I'll wait until someone inevitably whacks the set up on Youtube.

Fingers crossed that there's no elevator muzak pseudo cocktail jazz on the new record, and it's all '80s style bangers, shoegazy goodness and IDM freakouts.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 15 April 2019 14:09 (five years ago) link

this is the last time i'll say anything about it but if anything your enjoyment of this band is worse than your previous disdain

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:11 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwvBGy1A6Wo

they sound amazing. even matty's singing is 3000x better than usual

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 April 2019 17:32 (five years ago) link

*click!*

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 18 April 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link

They are one of the most mysteriously great sounding live acts since Phoenix. I mean, just literally, how good they sound, for four or five dudes and what they're doing. I assume there must be some sort of audio magic at work, but it's subtle, if it's even happening.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link

BTW, I heard from a source the the title of their next album will indeed be " I assume there must be some sort of audio magic at work, but it's subtle, if it's even happening."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link

"i like america" live is a motherfucker

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 April 2019 17:54 (five years ago) link

also lmao at the very small but loud group of people shouting "antichrist! antichrist! antichrist!"

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link

Ha! One day they'll just randomly play it and all hell will break loose.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:27 (five years ago) link

The production design for their show is super good.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 18 April 2019 20:08 (five years ago) link

They are one of the most mysteriously great sounding live acts since Phoenix. I mean, just literally, how good they sound, for four or five dudes and what they're doing. I assume there must be some sort of audio magic at work, but it's subtle, if it's even happening.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, April 18, 2019 5:43 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Four band members plus two auxilliary musicians plus two dancers that also sing backing vocals plus backing tracks covering the rest of the parts.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 18 April 2019 20:13 (five years ago) link

*auxiliary.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 18 April 2019 20:15 (five years ago) link

Oh, I know *how* they do it, it just sounds very, very good. Clean, solid, locked together air-tight. I feel that way whenever I see, say, a mainstream country act or something like Panic at the Disco, where there is a lot of movement and showmanship and playing but it sounds almost identical to the record (which is already pretty slick to begin with). It's just so impeccably ... *produced*, but live.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2019 20:41 (five years ago) link

what was the YoutuBe video Brad posted? it seems to have disappeared (or the wifi in this taco shop sucks)

also:

"i like america" live is a motherfucker

― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:54 AM (three hours ago)

this, this, this. was absolutely a highlight of Coachella set. maybe THE highlight.

alpine static, Thursday, 18 April 2019 21:06 (five years ago) link

It was the Coachella set. It seems to have pulled from Youtube for the usual, obvious reasons.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 18 April 2019 21:10 (five years ago) link

I’m sure it’ll be officially uploaded shortly

k3vin k., Friday, 19 April 2019 03:12 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGrtzzpNpi0

here's a new song played acoustic that'll likely be on Notes in some form

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2019 03:30 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRBg31w0ANs

alpine static, Friday, 19 April 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dclYNe2z9YI

alpine static, Friday, 19 April 2019 15:45 (five years ago) link

those video screens are pretty fuckin cool. that is not what coachella looked like when i went.

alpine static, Friday, 19 April 2019 15:50 (five years ago) link

It's funny, because everything I've read about the new album suggests that it's going to be their kind of version of a "going back to our roots" album, but I'll bet it isn't.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 19 April 2019 16:43 (five years ago) link

"We think it'll sound like Burial" suggests "going back to our roots" for you?
Admittedly that was just one of several things they've said about the album, but it was also, like, the first

You can't see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Friday, 19 April 2019 20:48 (five years ago) link

Okay, almost everything. I tend not to pay attention to what an artist thinks their record is going to sound like before they've started make it.

Remember, they were going to put out an album under the name of Drive Like I Do before that plan was scrapped, and since then Healy has spoken about wanting to return to the feel of being a small emo band rather than go down a more arena rock route. Also, lyrically, the ideas so far suggest the territory of the first album rather than anything since.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 19 April 2019 20:57 (five years ago) link

I would die for another record like the first one, it’s the one I play most often now

k3vin k., Friday, 19 April 2019 22:31 (five years ago) link

yeah its the best one

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Friday, 19 April 2019 22:39 (five years ago) link

god, i love this band

alpine static, Thursday, 25 April 2019 06:08 (five years ago) link

is getting STDs ever a vibe, regardless of one's age?

J. Sam, Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link

Growing a beard's not hard at all, either. In fact, it's too fucking easy for my liking.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 27 April 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

Anyway, had I like it when you sleep... on full blast today, I'd forgotten how much I really, really like 'UGH!' ...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 27 April 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/7pijsRGXiJ

— matty (@Truman_Black) May 7, 2019

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

The band was, of course, great tonight. A couple of funny things. First, I had hoped to take my daughter, but she is for whatever reason totally averse to the band, which ... I don't know why. I was talking with the friend I took in her stead and we thought that maybe she's just too young by a few years, that this is music for 20-somethings, not teens, as much as our teens would like to think they're mature and worldly. Who knows? But second was my friend himself, who I took as a sort of experiment. He's older than me (in his low '50s) and had never even heard of the band before I invited, so I was curious what he'd think. He came straight from work, and go figure, he liked it a lot. (Which was not surprising, because what's not to like, right?). And last - and this is even goofier - I wore what I had been wearing all day, a commemorative "Fort Reno Washington, DC" t-shirt (Fort Reno being the public park where a lot of Dischord bands would play). As I watched the show I thought, jeez, the 1975 is sort of the anti-Dischord, isn't it? And then about halfway through the set Matty took off his jacket and ... he was wearing a Minor Threat shirt!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 May 2019 04:06 (four years ago) link

i hope i'll see them live again in july. unfortunately it's in a music festival.

btw, did anyone hear the new no rome's ep?
i'm enjoying it quite a lot, specially the first two emo tunes, although i would like them to be a little bit longer, i guess.

Nourry, Thursday, 9 May 2019 12:12 (four years ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxQBeV5AdcU/

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

I hope that's actually the cover. It looks great.

Simon H., Thursday, 9 May 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

A charming interviewee, I must say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_agjB2bECxA

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 May 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

yes i have always agreed!

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

He looks a lot like Johnny Marr in that interview.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 May 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

Their visual design is impeccable. Ugh.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 9 May 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

that interview was terrific

that guy asked good unconventional questions! and good on those other folks for not interrupting the long story.

alpine static, Thursday, 9 May 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link

no doubt i was kuleshoving him but i enjoyed what seemed to me the progression in stages of the silent older guy's expression from "who is this vapid twerp" to "wow life"

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 May 2019 23:38 (four years ago) link

silent older guy looks like Classic British Host, i.e. alky three Pimms + lemonades in his cups

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 May 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link

They've won a couple of Ivor Novello's - best contemporary song for 'Love It If We Made It' and songwriters of the year.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link

apparetly the latest Notes news is that the lead single has been delayed until August, lol

ufo, Monday, 27 May 2019 05:06 (four years ago) link

fuck!

k3vin k., Tuesday, 28 May 2019 00:26 (four years ago) link

Seems to me that they're - understandably - struggling to write and record a new album while still on the promotional cycle for the current one. It must be difficult for them to concentrate on the making of it for any length of time before having to fuck off somewhere else to play a gig or do a TV appearance or other promo.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 00:57 (four years ago) link

I don't think they'll be having any problems coming up with ideas, though.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link

I was under the impression that it was done?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 28 May 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link

saw them tonight... they are of course superb. it's funny now in a 75 min set you're getting like 60% singles and only a few of their singles would be among my true favorite songs but it's a really fun, hit-packed, energetic show. (looking at setlists it seems like they basically have 3 shows: an hourlong festival set that is all new stuff and hits; a 75 min long festival set that is new stuff, hits, w/ a few head picks thrown in; a 90 min arena/amphitheater show that has a half dozen head picks). they still aren't incredibly loud but the band really does shine... "she's american" & "the sound" start to bend towards disco, even something like "change of heart" gets this sort of loose and limber almost danceable playing

J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 June 2019 08:29 (four years ago) link

last i heard on the album was early fall but they're on tour almost literally w/o break thru september so in my head i'm sort of just assuming october or november. it would just be very unlike them to release an album w/o being around to promo it heavily... when i interviewed matty he talked about understanding that their fans really respond to a traditional album rollout where there are these bread crumbs to fixate on and contextualize w/in the sort of mythology that true stans are always building. they do work extremely hard so it's not out of the question that they could try and pull it off while on tour in asia/australia but we'll see (i'm just speculating)

J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 June 2019 08:39 (four years ago) link

the original plan was to have a single in February and do a gradual rollout again with the album out about now i think? but judging from all the interviews they've given over the last while the album has taken longer than expected and since it's kept getting pushed back (before this latest delay there was supposed to be a single on May 31st) and i think in a recent interview Matty talked about how he's still coming up with new ideas for it. he's also talked about possibly just releasing the album all at once a few times so anything's possible, but i'd agree that october/november with maybe some singles seems most likely at this point. he keeps talking about how the main influences on the album are UK garage and Burial so i'm hoping there's a bunch of stuff that sounds like "how to draw/petrichor" but as like actual dance-pop songs not just as one of their cool soundscape things.

ufo, Sunday, 2 June 2019 09:00 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBDGZngMQG4

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

Extremely tantalizing details ... I would not be unhappy for them to forgo ‘real’ instruments completely and fully embrace their digital production sound

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link

at this point i just want an album full of TOOTIMEs

alpine static, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link

I'm the opposite, I want to hear them sack off doing everything completely "in the box" and for them to embrace being a band in the traditional sense. I kinda see the "in the box" sound as being a trait of the music of this decade in general, and I'm feeling tired of it. I think the 2020's will see musicians rebelling against it and "authenticity" being a cool thing again.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link

you guys are setting up a false dichotomy

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

anyway matty said on insta that they're gonna put out new music in august but he doesn't know when the album is coming bcuz he's still working on it

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

What are the chances that the band don't try and pull this kind of stunt again? They probably should have tried making two records at once and putting them out at once, a la Use Your Illusion, or making two records at once and then putting them out one at a time like Kid A and Amnesiac or what Manic Street Preachers did with Rewind the Film and Futurology ...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

like most pop musicians nowadays it seems like matty is always working on music... again you're presenting a dichotomy that i don't think is very relevant. there will def be some songs from the 'online relationships' sessions on the new album bcuz we know they recorded stuff w roy hargrove before he died that is gonna be on there

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

shoutout to the rest of the band to listening to matty's spiel before "love me" on this tour like 100 times w/o strangling him

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

I'm not presenting anything other than the opinion that perhaps announcing that you're going to write, record and release an album in 2018 and 2019 before you've a) started making the records and b) thought about how you're going to promote the records was a bit of a stupid, over-optimistic thing to do.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

ok?

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

man who gives a shit, i barely believed both records would come out when he announced them

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

I had no idea whether they would be able to pull it off or not. Clearly, they couldn't.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

there will def be some songs from the 'online relationships' sessions on the new album bcuz we know they recorded stuff w roy hargrove before he died that is gonna be on there

Also, none of this really fills me with optimism. Just thinking of the words "A Brief Inquiry... off-cuts" gives me kind of a Reload vibe, and the presence of Roy Hargrove suggests that they're going to continue the awful faux-jazz aspect of their sound that suddenly sprung up like an unwelcome fart on last years record. I kinda feel bad about saying this, because on I Like It When You Sleep... they managed to tackle every style that record covers really well, but to me they're definitely not great at the faux-jazz thing. I understand that kind of thing is critic bait, and Radiohead incorporated these kind of elements into their sound really well on Kid A/Amnesiac, but it seems a bad fit for The 1975. The thing they're most best at are tracks like 'She's American' or 'Lostmyhead'.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

"sincerity is scary" is the best song on the last record

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link

also the record's not even out yet and they've released zero music from it so... maybe you're completely wrong?

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link

Xp- kind of like how your posts itt sprung up like an unwelcome fart

flopson, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

In this case, I'd be very much happy to be wrong! If they end up making a record that I enjoy as much as their second album, I'd have no complaints.

(x-post)

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

I sort of agree about the jazz stuff, I wasn’t really a fan of “sincerity” or “mine”

I would be interested in hearing a more genre-cohesive record, but with these guys you just have to take the filler with the killer at this point — what other band could give us such astonishingly complete, sonically disparate songs as “TOOTIME”, “how to draw/petrichor”, “love it if we made it”, I love america”, “it’s not living”, and “I always wanna die”?

k3vin k., Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

"sincerity" is really in the mode of their r&b hybrids like "if i believe you" (i'm baffled you're not a fan k3v), i mainly brought it up bc the mention of roy hargrove does not imply an album full of "mine"s ffs

also who in the world would complain about the presence of roy hargrove

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

The only tracks that he played on on A Brief Inquiry... were 'Sincerity is Scary' and 'Mine', so they clearly used him because he fits with the style of those songs, and it's not too much of a stretch to believe that if he did play on anything else, it's likelier to be in a similar vein than not. Nobody said anything about an album full of this stuff, though, no idea where you're getting that from. They may very well have found another context for his playing and I'd be very much happy if that was the case.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link

i feel like this band has by and large subverted obvious expectations like that

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

the obvious thing for them to do is to merge the jazz stuff with the live rock band stuff and make a shiina ringo album

ufo, Thursday, 6 June 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link

I want to be clear about one thing: “Mine” is great

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 6 June 2019 07:04 (four years ago) link

otm

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 June 2019 09:20 (four years ago) link

John Lennon legendarily used to refer to Paul McCartney's "old time" pastiches as "granny music", which is a term that I certainly think applies to 'Mine' ... although, I think at this point in musical history it's actually more "great-granny music" territory.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 6 June 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link

completely unrelated, but Ray Davies has way more granny songs than Paul.

campreverb, Thursday, 6 June 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

yesterday saw them live and it was the best concert ever.

Nourry, Friday, 19 July 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

I just got this but as an e-mail from them so I assume it's more significant than the last few breadcrumbs they've dropped regarding the upcoming album:

pic.twitter.com/7q1rAzr1bT

— The 1975 (@the1975) July 23, 2019

Can't wait to hear "Wake Up! Wake Up! Wake Up!"

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

finally!

they've deleted all their twitter accounts too for the time being but the pic is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/the1975/comments/cguhlz/wake_up_first_single_maybe/

ufo, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 02:16 (four years ago) link

GO DOWN, SOFT SO- oh wait

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWcfzAfuFyE

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link

According to their IG story, their new single is titled "People" and is out in 28 days?

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link

weird! feels a bit long to really work as an opener like that

ufo, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:23 (four years ago) link

matty...........

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link

You heard it from them first: blowjobs are tired, civil disobedience to combat climate change is wired

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:47 (four years ago) link

the worst thing about this band is their love for having a minimum of a month's build-up to a lead single

ufo, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:58 (four years ago) link

So the preview for this album is up on Apple Music and it’s 22 songs long

josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 25 July 2019 03:31 (four years ago) link

release date is 21 February :/

ufo, Thursday, 25 July 2019 03:39 (four years ago) link

I'm listening to a 1975 song on Spotify, and the "canvas" video for it is an ad for "People". First time I've ever seen a band use that feature as an advertisement.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 25 July 2019 04:33 (four years ago) link

Lol at the self-titled track. As if a 1975 album called 'Notes on a Conditional Form' wasn't already shaping up to be the most pretentious album of all time.

Tim F, Thursday, 25 July 2019 04:52 (four years ago) link

Honestly, I was with it until that very last corny sentence. I understand why people would be repelled by this, but at the same time: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/597kpd/new-report-suggests-high-likelihood-of-human-civilization-coming-to-an-end-in-2050

josh winters (josh), Thursday, 25 July 2019 05:36 (four years ago) link

keyboard plinks in the background sound like actress - jardin lol

J. Sam, Thursday, 25 July 2019 06:00 (four years ago) link

the sentiment of it is fine i just don't think '5 minute spoken word' is going to be a good way to open the album and that there's surely better ways to integrate that sort of message into the album

ufo, Thursday, 25 July 2019 10:14 (four years ago) link

its a great way to open the album!

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

its art man you're not building a table

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

it's a great way to open the album insofar as you can always just start with track 2

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link

i find it pretty pleasant to listen to, tbh...v sci fi vibe. like an entry from the diary of princess irulan

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

the instrumental track is kinda cool but so is the track for "The Man Who Married a Robot" and I still skip it

Vinnie, Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

it's not to say that this kind of track can't work. I like VU's "The Gift" and that's 8 minutes long. maybe something about the vocals being too upfront in the 1975 tracks

Vinnie, Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

deej otm

k3vin k., Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link

i listened once, that should do it.

big city slam (Spottie), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

I like to think of it as the logical endpoint of a pop idea that started with Beyonce’s “Flawless”.

Tim F, Thursday, 25 July 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

in that "flawless" is about waking up and this song puts you to sleep?

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link

They should have gotten Baz Luhrmann instead.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link

lol I think if you said to Matt "congratulations on making a sequel to The Sunscreen Song" he would probably kill himself.

Tim F, Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link

looking forward to the version on the next album where the speech is autotuned or something

ufo, Friday, 26 July 2019 02:23 (four years ago) link

all the s/t intro tracks are p terrible imo, so im not putting much stock in this. i didn’t like the spoken word track on the previous album either tho so hopefully that’s the extent of it

flopson, Saturday, 27 July 2019 05:23 (four years ago) link

i thought it was fine on ILIWYS but otherwise completely skippable

ufo, Saturday, 27 July 2019 06:37 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuVuUnYYCp4

even my least favorite 1975 song is good live

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 12 August 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

video's gone, which track?

ufo, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 01:06 (four years ago) link

full band arrangement of “be my mistake”

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 01:53 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u62hnB-6ag

oh wow that's a lot better than the album version

ufo, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 02:14 (four years ago) link

they were so good when i saw them a month ago that i'm actually thinking travelling from lisbon to paris in november just to see them again at pitchfork music festival.

Nourry, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 09:15 (four years ago) link

New single in 3 hours?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKdPxXWm7Jg

toby, Thursday, 22 August 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

they've gone Manson!

Simon H., Thursday, 22 August 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

i think the video really sells the song

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 August 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link

unrelated but the official 11M-view video for Give Yourself A Try has changed? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzBfBqbSmc

alpine static, Thursday, 22 August 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link

I have not watched the video. I did listen to the song via Spotify, by queuing up and listening to the "The 1975" intro track first, which I recommend.

MarkoP, Thursday, 22 August 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

i was not expecting this. still processing. but i was hoping this would finally be their 'music for cars' album. i was wrong.

Nourry, Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

i don't think their singles portend anything about the subsequent albums honestly

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

yeah there's literally still another 20 songs to go supposedly

Simon H., Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

that's true.

Nourry, Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link

Um. I can imagine that song being fun live, minus some of the more annoying effects, and I can also imagine the song is no more indicative of the album than "Song 2" was. But. Um. Yeah, no thanks. Reminds of the Vines or something.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

this is the best fucking band of all time

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

it made me think of battles

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

oh man i dont like this at all.

big city slam (Spottie), Thursday, 22 August 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link

why are they trying to sound like jet?

big city slam (Spottie), Thursday, 22 August 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

someone else compared it to refused and i think it’s somewhere between that and “song 2.” it extremely rules imo but i get why this would be radioactive to others

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 August 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link

vocals kinda remind me of glassjaw

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 22 August 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

not really into this, probably the first time the idea that this band can do pretty much anything hasn't worked out for me

ufo, Thursday, 22 August 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link

This sounds like Refused covering a Queens of the Stone Age song, which... I guess it could be worse as someone who grew up on Refused, QOTSA, Manson and "Song 2" — but not too long ago, Matty talking about this being their nighttime album, inspired by Burial and The Streets, stuff like that... so who really knows anything anymore?

ilxor, Thursday, 22 August 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link

Sounds like XTRMNTR era PRML SCRM to me.

piscesx, Thursday, 22 August 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link

would probably like it a lot if it did sound like XTRMNTR to me

ufo, Thursday, 22 August 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

this song has returned us to the roots of this thread.... everyone throwing out highbrow/lowbrow comparisons that build out a compelling constellation of influences

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 August 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link

I do miss the 3rd Eye Blind phase of this band :)

big city slam (Spottie), Thursday, 22 August 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link

This song sounds like Gregorian chants spliced with ZZ Top

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 22 August 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link

Every first single this band has put out has surprised me. This one might be the most out there, and I wouldn't say I like it a lot, but I can't help but love this band for continually making music that's further and further out of what I expect. In any case, video is great

Vinnie, Thursday, 22 August 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link

Go figure, I like the song better without the video playing at the same time.

ilxor, Friday, 23 August 2019 00:21 (four years ago) link

this is...not what I was expecting

k3vin k., Friday, 23 August 2019 00:41 (four years ago) link

hahaha haven't heard this but Battles, Refused, QOTSA are bands I would have bet a large amount of money would have never come up in this thread

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 August 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link

huh wow....this is unexpected. too bad Buddyhead isn't around to write about this

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 August 2019 02:02 (four years ago) link

can't believe this is them

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 August 2019 02:11 (four years ago) link

It's like they sat down and asked, ok, which bands have we *not* been compared to before? And then decided to sound like that.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2019 02:20 (four years ago) link

Still waiting for their song that sounds like Jute Gyte.

MarkoP, Friday, 23 August 2019 04:26 (four years ago) link

huh wow....this is unexpected. too bad Buddyhead isn't around to write about this

I forget who said on Twitter that this is totally Icarus Line but they were right.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 August 2019 04:27 (four years ago) link

That's a fair comparison all the way down to Joe Cardamone's hair.

ilxor, Friday, 23 August 2019 04:47 (four years ago) link

Not including their debut album, their lead single has always been their rock album opener:

Love Me > People > Give Yourself A Try

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 23 August 2019 04:50 (four years ago) link

the comparisons that make the most sense to me are Refused and The Vines

expecting this is probably going to be their Melon Collie where they take the eclecticism to a ridiculous extreme and it's too long for its own good but the highs will be somehow worth it

ufo, Friday, 23 August 2019 11:35 (four years ago) link

I love how they've gone all in with the black hair in the video because this is supposed to be a rock video, kinda like the Beastie Boys going all-in with moustaches in Sabotage because it was supposed to be 70s-themed.

cpl593H, Friday, 23 August 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

Would have been better if the 1975 went all-in with mustaches instead.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link

I definitely definitely definitely think everyone should listen to the song 3-5 times before watching the video. (the video is awesome tho)

alpine static, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

this song is kinda great, def seems like 1975 to me albeit a bit rougher; the drum production, the hook ... feels very intuitive to me, as well as the fact that they're nothing if not cagey and sorta feel like grunge in 2019 is to sophistipop in 2015 or w/e so again, not surprising. lol this is the best band. matty has the best rock voice of ... anyone post cobain? is that a crazy statement?

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Friday, 23 August 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

it is crazy, but it is an amusing thought!

cpl593H, Friday, 23 August 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

How many more singles and pre-release drops are we gonna get before the Feb release date, jeezus

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 23 August 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link

gonna guess at least 6 more singles lol

Simon H., Friday, 23 August 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

it will be 22 tracks long so 14 would still be new by release date.

cpl593H, Friday, 23 August 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link

I don’t really listen to a lot of this kind of music but future of the left was the first thing I thought of

I’m sure I’ll end up loving this song

k3vin k., Friday, 23 August 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

The hook that drew me in was “we don’t go outside so bring everything here”

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Friday, 23 August 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link

Wow,was not expecting this but do like it.

Bee OK, Friday, 23 August 2019 23:22 (four years ago) link

I would have loved to do an experiment where you all heard it not knowing it was the 1975 have a gut feeling on the results

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 August 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link

i hope they do some proggy metal shit

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 24 August 2019 07:48 (four years ago) link

finally we reach agreement

imago, Saturday, 24 August 2019 07:52 (four years ago) link

as for the new single, FULL APPROVAL

imago, Saturday, 24 August 2019 07:57 (four years ago) link

Anyone see the Reading set?

(tis online bbc)

Mark G, Saturday, 24 August 2019 11:39 (four years ago) link

Omg this new song is so terrible it’s hilarious to see stans trying to defend it as a song.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 August 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link

i remain firm in my belief that this song is incredibly good

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 August 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link

i continue to not get this band but i am fully in favour of popular music sounding uglier

devvvine, Sunday, 25 August 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

I like the song, but only by the standard that it makes me feel things again so ymmv

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 25 August 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

Next single to be simultaneous Tool and Taylor Swift tribute, goes number one in ten countries.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 August 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link

i remain firm in my belief that this song is incredibly good

I stand by this.

cpl593H, Monday, 26 August 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link

wake up wake up wake up it's monday morning and we've only got a thousand of them left

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 26 August 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link

I can imagine that song being fun live

ding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6Y3jQzlE8g

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 26 August 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

Charli XCX and Christine and the Queens doing "TOOTIMETOOTIMETOOTIME"

Starts around 9:20

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07m85zt

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 5 September 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

just saw them live

best band in the world!!!

ufo, Sunday, 22 September 2019 12:13 (four years ago) link

a bunch of thoughts:

-still not entirely sold on "people" but it worked ok live
-saw at least three rainbow flags people brought specifically to wave during "if i believe you" presumably for the lesbian kiss line, which, lol (i mean that in a good way)
-"if i believe you" incidentally was a real highlight, they jammed on the outro for a while
-they played an unreleased instrumental called "depth" which was very much in the vein of the iliyws title track except much shorter
-"i always wanna die" needs to be their main set closer forever
-there were technical problems for a few minutes before "sincerity is scary" but matty refused to banter with the crowd "on principle" because it wasn't the place in the set for him to do that
-matty was a much better live vocalist than i remember him being when i saw them just before iliwys came out, some quite impressive moments like on "i couldn't be more in love"
-kinda wish there were a few more deep cuts/a different EP cut to "you" which they played last time they were here (i know "undo" has been on setlists occasionally over the last few years, would have liked to see that) but the ones we got were fantastic anyway
-matty struggled to remember which EP "you" was from lol
-i have never seen a more enthusiastic crowd in my life
-no rome was a very good opener, it's funny how he's working in a very similar space to the 1975 but much more both alt-r&b and emo, though not usually both at once
-best band in the world!!!!

ufo, Sunday, 22 September 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link

oh how'd i forget matty's floral skirt (no "paris" to go with it though)

ufo, Monday, 23 September 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link

Crowds for them are incredible, best I've ever seen, or very near the top.

I saw them once for this tour and once for the ILWYS. He seems so much more at ease in this tour.

That "Sex" finale, I hadn't seen any youtube recording of any sort previously, it blew my mind and left me so pumped. When it ended, the only thing I wanted to do was to go to another show of the 1975.

cpl593H, Monday, 23 September 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

// 5 D A Y S // L O V E pic.twitter.com/cZ49UoFFnY

— The 1975 (@the1975) October 19, 2019

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

I suppose that makes today three days #countdown

cpl593H, Monday, 21 October 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

that's correct. they're premiering "frail state of mind"

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 21 October 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

accurate description of me whenever this band makes me wait for something

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 21 October 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

Whenever I put "People" on I feel this compulsion to enable the repeat single track setting and it's really destroying my last.fm stats.

cpl593H, Monday, 21 October 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link

"frail state of mind" is supposed to be their attempt at 2-step according to a recent interview, looking forward to this

ufo, Monday, 21 October 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link

jesus lol

k3vin k., Monday, 21 October 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link

also i believe the last song of theirs that roy hargrove plays on

J0rdan S., Monday, 21 October 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3B2cpy7ob4

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link

well that's perfect

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

This feels like an updated version of I like it when you sleep etc's title track and with vocals so yes, perfect

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link

OMG. thank you.

Nourry, Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

NOACF is on apple music now as a 22 track album

J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link

in the description matty calls the album "dreamy, hazy, and quite broken and deconstructed"

J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link

God

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

very nice

Simon H., Thursday, 24 October 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

the last 45 seconds of this are amazing

J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 October 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

why are none of you noting that this sounds just like TOOTIME with its chorus edited out? you hear that, right?

alpine static, Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link

it does, it just doesn't matter

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link

fair enough!

alpine static, Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

100% agree

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link

that it's just TooTime with no chorus.

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link

this is so gorgeous so i can forgive that there's not a whole lot to the actual song. i hope they eventually do something in the vein of this/"i like it when you sleep..."/"how to draw petrichor" that's an incredible pop song on top of the sound design

the album press release that's up on apple music now also says the sound of it comes full circle back to the EPs

ufo, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

this is fucking incredible

k3vin k., Thursday, 24 October 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link

that it's just TooTime with no chorus.

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, October 24, 2019 4:02 PM (two hours ago)

you say this like it's a bad thing...

anyway I'll take 22 tracks of "tootime" vocals over "how to draw/petrichor", thank you very much

k3vin k., Thursday, 24 October 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link

Can't wait to listen to this on headphones

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 24 October 2019 22:49 (four years ago) link

Love it

Tim F, Thursday, 24 October 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link

yeah this is it

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Thursday, 24 October 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link

like this quite a bit more than tootime, which i didn't really like that much

flopson, Thursday, 24 October 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link

otm

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 25 October 2019 00:00 (four years ago) link

here for matty’s early 00s radiohead period

k3vin k., Friday, 25 October 2019 00:13 (four years ago) link

haha

Tim F, Friday, 25 October 2019 00:15 (four years ago) link

A bit more chill than TooTime but I hear the similarity. Love what's going on in the instrumental parts, good track

Vinnie, Friday, 25 October 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link

in other news

i've been playing the shit out of the MJ cole remix of no rome's "pink"... the song works great as a proper garage song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAukkBam40

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 October 2019 04:05 (four years ago) link

ooh that really rules

ufo, Friday, 25 October 2019 13:00 (four years ago) link

ok frail state of mind is more like it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 October 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

http://diymag.com/2019/11/01/turn-on-tune-in-drop-out-the-1975-notes-on-a-conditional-form-interview-matty-healy-november-2019

good interview with lots of details about the new record

lol at "It’s More That I’m Bored Than I Actually Want To Kill Myself (Or Something)" being a real song title though, they already did "I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes)"

ufo, Friday, 1 November 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BrqWpZ6HXE

ufo, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link

Nice of Colbert to hold up a life size replica of the LP

Simon H., Wednesday, 20 November 2019 02:26 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOkUE0OB7V0

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 21 November 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.queerty.com/matt-healy-comes-aesthete-says-hell-kiss-beautiful-men-wont-sex-20191206

Finding the discourse to this more exhausting than the initial comment tbh

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 6 December 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link

I didn’t come out as anything this a weird thing to say. I did an interview with a Queer publication and was asked about my sexuality. I’m not playing a game and trying to take up queer spaces I’m simply trying to be an ally and this headline makes me uncomfortable https://t.co/Uy3WIlZH7Y

— 🥾🌍 (@Truman_Black) December 6, 2019

Simon H., Friday, 6 December 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link

Quickest nontroversy end ever

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 6 December 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link

european tour moved from february/march to october so they can complete “Notes On A Conditional Form”.
i can't believe i will only see them again almost in one year!

Nourry, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link

so I'm guessing that 02/21 release date was optimistic

Simon H., Wednesday, 11 December 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

oh thank god

// H O T T E S T R E C O R D L I V E - R A D I O 1 - T H U R S D A Y 1 6 J A N U A R Y - 7 P M // @BBCR1 @AnnieMac L O V E pic.twitter.com/lqafR05PYE

— The 1975 (@the1975) January 7, 2020

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 19:02 (four years ago) link

Someone must have gone bootleg Dischord t-shirt shopping.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 19:06 (four years ago) link

It's funny how a decade and a half ago, I would have been seething that this major label poseur is wearing a Fugazi tee but now I'm just like haaaaaaaa

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link

When I saw them last he was wearing a Minor Threat shirt.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 19:11 (four years ago) link

little-known fact: Matty's uncle was the ice-cream eating motherfucker

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link

they’re planning to release four more songs before the release which ugh

I know I can always ignore them but I’m only human

I guess the 6 songs total that we’re gonna hear before release is only be like a quarter of the album (isn’t it gonna have like 20+ tracks)

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 00:26 (four years ago) link

yeah 22 tracks

https://music.apple.com/us/album/notes-on-a-conditional-form/1473599936

also looks like they've changed the album art and for the worse

ufo, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 00:45 (four years ago) link

gonna try to do myself a solid and skip the remaining advance tracks

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 00:47 (four years ago) link

New song does not sound like Fugazi at all

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:34 (four years ago) link

where can i hear it? i forgot the bbc premiere...

Nourry, Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link

this song is amazing

J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:37 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS1b7Q--9Zs

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:41 (four years ago) link

they did it again

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:41 (four years ago) link

great creation records vibe on this

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link

love it when matty actually sort of writes a bridge

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link

this is so good. how can i thank them properly?

Nourry, Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link

i'm sorry that i'm kinda queer, it's not as weird as it appears
it's 'cause my body doesn't stop me
oh it's okay, lots of people think i'm gay
but we're friends, so it's cool, why would it not be?

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:51 (four years ago) link

I listened to two seconds before I remembered my earlier pledge. I will stay strong!!

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link

I just saw them last year but strongly thinking about seeing them in Toronto in May

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link

oh god this is just incredible

petey v, Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link

goosebumps!

petey v, Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link

love this! feels very 90’s outer-edge britpop, like Ash or something. jangly and kinda dreamy
INTO IT

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link

that was my first thought, too.

omg what did you type to find this gif? (Spottie), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:46 (four years ago) link

Haven’t listened to the new one yet just here to say “change of heart” is one of my favorite songs of theirs & it is the most heartfelt sentimental tender song abt being the person breaking up since idk Gwen stefani “cool”

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

this song oddly does not sound like "me" and "you" together

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link

xpost "cool" feels like a smart reference point, it's the kind of song you could imagine them ghostwriting for a pop singer.

new song is like a baggier "milk" and i am impossibly down for that.

Tim F, Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link

This is totally unrelated but I think that they should cover U2 “I will follow”

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:30 (four years ago) link

still the best band in the world

ufo, Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:45 (four years ago) link

wow, how do these guys do it

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link

jangle is such a good look on them

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:03 (four years ago) link

the bridge is soooooo good

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:17 (four years ago) link

trying to figure out what the riff reminds me of and I think it’s “bobby jean”???

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:19 (four years ago) link

lyrics of this one are kicking my personal ass

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 17 January 2020 00:28 (four years ago) link

Oh yeah this is great. My favorite of the songs released for this album so far

Vinnie, Friday, 17 January 2020 00:41 (four years ago) link

lyrics of this one are kicking my personal ass

you tell me.
a friend of mine was telling me that this song is everything she couldn't say when she was 17.
i think it's everything i can't say at 31!

Nourry, Friday, 17 January 2020 00:45 (four years ago) link

This is IT. Best new track by far

J. Sam, Friday, 17 January 2020 01:01 (four years ago) link

This sounds like a song from the soundtrack of an American Pie sequel.

*ducks*

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 17 January 2020 01:34 (four years ago) link

xpost "cool" feels like a smart reference point, it's the kind of song you could imagine them ghostwriting for a pop singer

― Tim F, Thursday, January 16, 2020 3:44 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I suppose I’m reaching to an extent calling it heartfelt and sentimental — the music definitely gives the lyrics these emotional shadings they resist — but it feels true that the emotion is there ... I like that it ends with him sitting in self pity and crying In the car

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 17 January 2020 01:37 (four years ago) link

Easily my favourite of the songs from the new album so far. The jangly Britpop vibes suit them so well.

kitchen person, Friday, 17 January 2020 02:51 (four years ago) link

oh so have they released something new

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 January 2020 03:07 (four years ago) link

"cool" also has a p solid keening synth part in it. "a change of heart" is the kind of defensive that pretty much exposes everything it's hiding imo, so yeah you're otm deej

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 17 January 2020 03:16 (four years ago) link

This is totally unrelated but I think that they should cover U2 “I will follow”

And I keep thinking they should cover "Round Here" by Counting Crows.

MarkoP, Friday, 17 January 2020 04:49 (four years ago) link

i saw a great youtube comment (that i can no longer find) to the effect of “everyone thinking this is The Song: in an interview five years from now Matty will say it’s about weed” 😂

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 January 2020 04:53 (four years ago) link

decided the new one is the mid-point of "vapour trail" and "semi-charmed life"

ufo, Friday, 17 January 2020 10:03 (four years ago) link

wow yes

J0rdan S., Friday, 17 January 2020 16:11 (four years ago) link

decided the new one is the mid-point of "vapour trail" and "semi-charmed life"

― ufo, Friday, January 17, 2020

This is perfect.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 January 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link

otm damn. great to have the 3EB comparisons come back around

omg what did you type to find this gif? (Spottie), Friday, 17 January 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link

i've come around hard on "people" and especially "frail state of mind," both of which i liked but initially didn't see myself returning to much. and now there's this which is absolutely perfect... so so pumped for the album and quite disappointed it's been pushed back yet again.

petey v, Friday, 17 January 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link

I don’t know what the fuck that is but I love that song about being in a phone box or whatever it is https://t.co/AnolXScieJ

— 🥾🌍 (@Truman_Black) January 17, 2020

k3vin k., Sunday, 19 January 2020 21:45 (four years ago) link

It's very 'first Ocean Colour Scene album' but perhaps unfairly i couldn't help think of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClcwKgxu2wk

piscesx, Monday, 20 January 2020 02:18 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF47oaT6qzc

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 6 February 2020 18:06 (four years ago) link

wow i love that video

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 February 2020 18:23 (four years ago) link

I think it's safe to say both song and video exemplify "'90s revival."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 February 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link

Great video, it’s like a kitschadelic take on both Sex videos.

I get so emotional when switches from “her” to “you”.

Tim F, Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link

Great video, it’s like a kitschadelic take on both Sex videos.

i was thinking the exact same thing

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link

I get so emotional when switches from “her” to “you”.

― Tim F, Thursday, February 6, 2020 4:12 PM (two hours ago)

yes yes yes it is all about this

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 February 2020 23:48 (four years ago) link

No unanimity: http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=28830

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 February 2020 23:50 (four years ago) link

i like the gay line! for one it ties right into “the sound”! i also relate to it in that it reminds me of me before i came out!

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 7 February 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link

(sorry i’m responding to a singles jukeblox burb there)

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 7 February 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link

if it's 2020 and ur still hating on the 1975 wyd????

k3vin k., Friday, 7 February 2020 00:02 (four years ago) link

(my friends talk about having “cute aggression” w dogs & cats but i only experience it whenever I look at Matty he’s fkn cute I want to punch him)

love the video - even the “looking up at the camera while jumping around ” is perfectly referenced

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 February 2020 03:03 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUt42L7V1vg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZid72LIyEo

new songs played live!

ufo, Sunday, 16 February 2020 13:59 (four years ago) link

"if you're too shy" is phenomenal

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 February 2020 15:07 (four years ago) link

this song is great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 16 February 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link

third eye blind meets ride is a great line

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 16 February 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link

"if you're too shy" & "me & you together song" are such movie soundtrack songs, i love it

J0rdan S., Sunday, 16 February 2020 20:57 (four years ago) link

Okay then

pic.twitter.com/McTJAZHPoY

— The 1975 (@the1975) February 17, 2020

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 17 February 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link

brad otm, this band can do no wrong

k3vin k., Monday, 17 February 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

next single is "the birthday party"

ufo, Monday, 17 February 2020 21:47 (four years ago) link

there’s a lot of prince in this new one

k3vin k., Tuesday, 18 February 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1A30zli0EY

it's cool that fans are already singing along to the unreleased ones

"the birthday party" is out tomorrow too

ufo, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 01:17 (four years ago) link

brad otm, this band can do no wrong

― k3vin k., Monday, February 17, 2020

really

I feel so alone.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 01:38 (four years ago) link

They've written a half dozen good to great songs, but often ILM turns into the Sanders thread when it comes to these dudes.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 01:41 (four years ago) link

i wouldn't say they can do no wrong because "people" was sort of a dud but it's close

ufo, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 02:28 (four years ago) link

"people" rocks, i am once again asking you to acknowledge the 1975 have no bad songs

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 02:40 (four years ago) link

j/k "be my mistake" is not good, they've written way more than a "half dozen good to great songs" though

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 02:41 (four years ago) link

they've written a half dozen good to great songs per album side

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 February 2020 02:53 (four years ago) link

So eighteen good to great songs?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 03:00 (four years ago) link

album side, alfred

pox the 1975

how to draw/petrichor
it's not living if it's not with you
a change of heart
settle down
heart out
fallingforyou
TOOTIME
by your side
you and me together song

k3vin k., Wednesday, 19 February 2020 03:31 (four years ago) link

love it if we made it
frail state of mind
somebody else
a change of heart
the ballad of me and my brain
pressure
fallingforyou
i like it when you sleep...
i always wanna die (sometimes)
you & me together song

ufo, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 03:36 (four years ago) link

paris
fallingforyou
somebody else
me
sincerity is scary
undo
so far (it's alright)
head.cars.bending
haunt//bed
menswear

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 03:39 (four years ago) link

album side, alfred

pox the 1975

how to draw/petrichor
it's not living if it's not with you
a change of heart
settle down
heart out
fallingforyou
TOOTIME
by your side
you and me together song

― k3vin k., Tuesday

Add "Chocolate" and we can toast.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 03:45 (four years ago) link

alfred: hereby confirmation that you are indeed an island

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 04:28 (four years ago) link

"somebody else" excluders are fronting imo

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 04:34 (four years ago) link

i feel like we did this once before, i can't remember what i picked

girls
me
so far (it's alright) <-- their most underrated song imo, it's their version of a dj koze track
fallingforyou
a change of heart
if i believe you
the ballad of me and my brain
sincerity is scary
it's not living (if it's not with you)
i always wanna die (sometimes)

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 February 2020 05:27 (four years ago) link

look i love them but i can hardly be expected to remember the long ass names of their songs, i need more time

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 05:31 (four years ago) link

doing this exercise makes it clear to me that while i love all their albums, i feel like

the s/t is the most front to back consistent. i only have one song in my POX but it's their most listenable album, and it only sounds better with time as being pan-genre has become so core to the ethos of the band. the EPs are patchier but have some ridiculously good songs.

i like it when you sleep is at least as good as the s/t but imo has some true stone cold unforgettable tracks. i could've easily put "she's american", "i like it when you sleep," and "paris" in my POX. this is overall their best album and if i was trying to get someone into the band i would start them here. it's the one where to me the influences are synthesized in the most cohesive way while also sounding like no other band going. even "nana" and "she lays down" are pretty great.

a brief inquiry... this is the one that has the most songs i just don't feel an emotional attachment to... part of it is bcuz the singles are really good compared to the rest and sometimes it's hard for me to hold onto a single as a personal favorite. the middle here -- from "be my mistake" to "inside your mind" -- is prob the one inessential stretch in their discography, "sincerity is scary" aside. (if i was being very specific the brit awards version would be in my POX). the first 5 and final 5 songs stand up alongside anything from the other albums tho.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 February 2020 05:38 (four years ago) link

Me and You Together Song
Love It If We Made It
It's Not Living (If It's Not With You)
Paris
I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes)
Sincerity is Scary
Girls
A Change of Heart
People
Somebody Else

but I tend to prefer their newer material

bunny slopes, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 08:53 (four years ago) link

tootimetootimetootime
somebody else
fallingforyou
me
ugh!
i like it when you sleep, for you are so beautiful yet so unaware of it
haunt // bed
head.cars.bending
pressure
frail state of mind

überweiss, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:05 (four years ago) link

https://youtu.be/OXYVr_8ANPk

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link

ah another single I will need to resist listening to

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link

I love exactly one 1975 track and that's 'The Man Who Married a Robot'

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link

"the birthday party" is so lovely

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 18:10 (four years ago) link

expecting the track in between "frail state of mind" and "the birthday party" to break me

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 February 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link

the generational observations of "give yourself a try" with the emotional sweep of "if i believe you"... this is a yes from me

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 February 2020 18:47 (four years ago) link

their sax solos always wreck me.

my personal favs, but this is impossible.

somebody else
paris
me
undo
the ballad of me and my brain
menswear
head.cars.bending
a change of heart
love it if we made it
sincerity is scary
so far (it's alright)
it's not living if it's not with you

Nourry, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link

Love It If We Made It
Paris
She’s American
A Change of Heart
Chocolate
The Sound
People
Somebody Else
This Must Be My Dream
Sincerity Is Scary

aphoristical, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link

Love this so much. Seeing them on Saturday and can't wait.

toby, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link

omg “The Birthday Party”. Ridiculous video, gorgeous song.

What’s been increasingly obvious with the pre-releases for the new album is how stylistically... diffuse and undirected the band has become. In particular songs like this and “Guys” seem dictated by overarching vision that is emotive but not necessarily aesthetic in a thought out way. Perhaps this was always the case but less obvious when the band was new and still stretching its wings (and the first album was obviously mostly very focused).

This is perhaps also why the band can increasingly tread into a kind of post-Britpop/Travis terrain of anti-conceptual directness: there’s no guardrail to stop them. I wouldn’t go so far as to say they can do so “safely”, because I’ve seen lots of great artists slowly lose sight of whatever guardrails kept them interesting, but certainly their reflexive aesthetic inclinations, like here the closing sax solo or Matt’s general lyrical approach, are like good luck charms that light the way.

Tim F, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:42 (four years ago) link

This is the POX I posted in 2018 which still looks pretty decent:

fallingforyou
Me
Love It If We Made It
Somebody Else
The Ballad of Me and My Brain
Menswear
Undo
Paris
Head.Cars.Bending
Sex

My contrastan move is to always include “Sex” because I think it is a perfect song, almost a tribute to perfect-songwriting.

Tim F, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link

how is this band so good at this

ufo, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link

I’m sorry but if you give this new song a free pass you lose your right to speak against John Mayer’s music.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link

uh you may find defenders here, Moka

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:24 (four years ago) link

Ah in that case carry on. I actually like it and John Mayer’s music but Iirc John Mayer is specially hated around here. I’m not about to crosscheck people who hate John Mayer and love everything The 1975 puts out because ain’t nobody got time for that.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link

heart out
settle down
robbers
menswear
the city
fallingforyou
if i believe you
ballad of me and my brain
sincerity is scary
mine
i couldnt be more in love

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:33 (four years ago) link

mayer has classics imo

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link

it sounds more like a yo la tengo ballad filtered through their trademark sophisti-pop production than john mayer

ufo, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:45 (four years ago) link

I only like a handful of Mayer songs (e.g. “Heartbreak Warfare”) but in any event Frank Kogan’s “Boany Joan Rule” seems more relevant the older I get:

https://lasvegasweekly.com/news/archive/2007/jul/12/the-rules-of-the-game-no-6-the-boney-joan-rule/Thanks

Tim F, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link

I only like a handful of Mayer songs

― Tim F, Wednesday, February 19, 2020 bookmarkflaglink

i could maybe commit to a pox

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 22:10 (four years ago) link

add yo la tengo to the influence masterlist

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link

someone please begin linking to the john mayer songs that sound like this. if they exist i want to hear

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 February 2020 22:21 (four years ago) link

ok just listened to the new one to see if i can hear any mayer adjacent sounds in there... maybe wheel?

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 22:31 (four years ago) link

is that a banjo in the birthday party mix?

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 22:33 (four years ago) link

i want the 1975 to produce a country song.

Nourry, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 23:44 (four years ago) link

in the interview matty did while premiering this song he said the plan after notes is for him & george to make solo albums produced by each other.

ufo, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 23:58 (four years ago) link

I think maybe “who says” is the most 1975 John Mayer track?

Anyway I think mayer is much more of a self satisfied yuppie persona I find grating, he’s way less likely to rock the boat or say shits fucked up when it’s fucked up whereas matty is willing to go out on a limb ... something abt mayer still has this fratty entitlement

https://youtu.be/akvu1AOnUIw

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 20 February 2020 01:10 (four years ago) link

i think matty’s best lyrics are on i like it when you sleep. i might be biased

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 February 2020 03:38 (four years ago) link

still digesting "the birthday party" but "guys" and "if you're too shy (let me know)" sound amazing, can't wait for studio versions.

best band on the planet in any case.

petey v, Thursday, 20 February 2020 15:01 (four years ago) link

lmao at the video for this

||||||||, Thursday, 20 February 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link

Maybe I'm hanging out in the wrong Twitter comments (Steven Hyden) but am confounded by the hatred of this band from what I (maybe incorrectly?) presume are mostly middle aged white American men. I think the new song is lovely and all they hear is a tongue-in-cheek reference to Pinegrove. The same people who ate up "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly/ kicking squealing Gucci little piggy" a generation ago now think Healy is a fraud, and I don't get it...

Indexed, Thursday, 20 February 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link

Maybe I'm hanging out in the wrong Twitter comments (Steven Hyden)

hyden is a prize dumbass

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 February 2020 20:49 (four years ago) link

I tell myself I’m over this band for the moment and then struggle with making a top 10 out of so many beautiful songs. I haven’t listened to anything unreleased yet, so this is just from the official releases. At this moment in time:

Fallingforyou
I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes)
I Couldn’t Be More In Love
Love It If We Made It
Robbers
Settle Down
She’s American
Somebody Else
Surrounded By Heads and Bodies
This Must Be My Dream

winters (josh), Thursday, 20 February 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link

To my mind, one difference between Yorke (circa OK Computer) and Healy is that, while Yorke probably would have told people he was full of shit if asked, he always performed/performs the songs very seriously. Matt meanwhile has almost constructed a performative persona around being in on the joke, kind of “don’t believe anything you hear, and least of all this”. It really struck me when I saw a TV show performance of “The Sound” a few years back and Matt sang the song like he was doing a karaoke performance of someone else’s tune, which, conceptually he kind of was? And that is very present at the songwriting level - for example, I cannot think of a band or artist who has written more songs structured as conversations between unreliable narrators.

Considered objectively, this should perhaps make Matt less of a fraud than Thom (though the entire question of “is this fraudulent” is dumb and unhelpful in any event), but I think a lot of people hear Matt’s coded “I am full of shit” messaging and mistake it for something they have worked out for themselves, congratulating themselves for perceiving a kind of fakeness/shallowness to the pseudo-profundity as if that wasn’t precisely the vibe that Matt had been seeking to convey.

Tim F, Thursday, 20 February 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link

Well said, Tim F.

Chocolate
Heart Out
UGH
The Ballad of Me and My Brain
Somebody Else
The Sound
Love It If We Made It
Sincerity Is Scary
I Like America & America Likes Me
It's Not Living If It's Not With You

Indexed, Thursday, 20 February 2020 23:02 (four years ago) link

I could listen to "The Birthday Party" on loop for a long time, such a great vibe. it's maybe my favorite song of theirs on first listen since "Somebody Else". though I have no idea how to feel about the video

Vinnie, Friday, 21 February 2020 04:44 (four years ago) link

and yeah I think that is a banjo in the mix

Vinnie, Friday, 21 February 2020 04:45 (four years ago) link

"you & me together song" is a banger but this hits on a different level

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 February 2020 04:47 (four years ago) link

i'm a simpleton, "you & me together song" is my fave out of all the new stuff. (followed by "People")

alpine static, Friday, 21 February 2020 05:15 (four years ago) link

starting to be convinced they won't release the album until every after every single track has been issued as a single

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 21 February 2020 13:54 (four years ago) link

They were amazing last night - If You're Too Shy (Let Me Know) was a big singalong already (and sounded absolutely amazing), in fact all the new songs were great (even Guys, which I was dubious of on first listen, was quite affecting).

The few old EP tracks they played were great too, particularly fallingforyou and HNSCC.

They're opening with People/Sex/TOOTIMETOOTIMETOOTIME/Me & You Together Song, but it doesn't feel frontloaded. In fact I think they could already play 3 hours shows without it feeling like they were stretching for material.

toby, Sunday, 23 February 2020 19:24 (four years ago) link

i think "the birthday party" is... one of their best songs?

J0rdan S., Sunday, 23 February 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link

Good thoughts, Tim F

Josh (phantompenguin), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:11 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

the track times are up on itunes - it's 80 minutes total https://music.apple.com/us/album/notes-on-a-conditional-form/1473599936

it's been delayed yet again too apparently to may 22.

the tracklisting also leaked via some swedish retailer:
The 1975
People
The End (Music For Cars)
Frail State of Mind
Streaming
The Birthday Party
Yeah I Know
Then Because She Goes
Jesus Christ 2005 God Bless America
Roadkill
Me & You Together Song
I Think There's Something You Should Know
Nothing Revealed / Everything Denied
Tonight (I Wish I Was Your Boy)
Shiny Collarbone
If You're Too Shy (Let Me Know)
Playing On My Mind
Having No Head
What Should I Say
Being Funny In A Funny Language
Don't Worry
Guys

ufo, Monday, 30 March 2020 11:04 (four years ago) link

Tbh i always figured 22 tracks was some kinda bluff lol. christ

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Monday, 30 March 2020 11:07 (four years ago) link

it's not quite their melon collie but they're trying

ufo, Monday, 30 March 2020 11:09 (four years ago) link

They must be so mad the zeitgeist has completely shifted since their long promo campaign started

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Monday, 30 March 2020 11:13 (four years ago) link

Honestly why this new album is delayed https://t.co/PaF7Iy4gO1

— 🥾🌍 (@Truman_Black) March 4, 2020

ufo, Monday, 30 March 2020 11:14 (four years ago) link

but of course

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Monday, 30 March 2020 11:17 (four years ago) link

anyway I'm pleased I have still only heard 1/11th of this ("people" and "frail state of mind")

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Monday, 30 March 2020 12:50 (four years ago) link

kmt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg2dmvvew_o

||||||||, Monday, 30 March 2020 13:52 (four years ago) link

"jesus christ 2005 god bless america" is really gorgeous and features phoebe bridgers

ufo, Thursday, 2 April 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link

fuck, this song is beautiful

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:31 (four years ago) link

realised the album has ended up delayed a full year from its originally intended release now lol

ufo, Friday, 3 April 2020 03:19 (four years ago) link

ngl i wasn't convinced by the last three songs they've released for the album so far... but wow this is amazing. they finally made a great acoustic track.

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 3 April 2020 03:47 (four years ago) link

i almost cried... fuck you, the 1975. and thank you.

Nourry, Friday, 3 April 2020 09:26 (four years ago) link

just lovely.

petey v, Friday, 3 April 2020 14:05 (four years ago) link

jesus christ (2005 god bless america) this song is beautiful

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link

ugh this band

k3vin k., Saturday, 4 April 2020 03:53 (four years ago) link

ngl i wasn't convinced by the last three songs they've released for the album so far... but wow this is amazing. they finally made a great acoustic track.

― josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, April 2, 2020 10:47 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

ban

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 5 April 2020 04:58 (four years ago) link

it's pretty easily their best track in this sort of mode?

ufo, Sunday, 5 April 2020 07:16 (four years ago) link

theyve made great acoustic tracks

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 5 April 2020 07:41 (four years ago) link

their best acoustic track since their last single

J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:55 (four years ago) link

Oh i was thinking of Nana, She Lays Down and Be My Mistake as their past acoustic songs, I thought they were all pretty universally considered meh here? I guess The Birthday Party is technically acoustic too but it's not, like, acoustic in that bare, minimalist, stripped-down sense

josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 5 April 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link

team “nana” is great

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 5 April 2020 21:07 (four years ago) link

agreed. i just listened it and it always wreck me.

Nourry, Sunday, 5 April 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link

102!

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link

Paris is acoustic right? also great

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 6 April 2020 01:32 (four years ago) link

there's an acoustic version of "paris" they released on youtube which is better than the original

their previous acoustic studio tracks ("nana", "she lays down", "be my mistake", "surrounded by heads and bodies", "102") are all fine but i wouldn't call any great

"the birthday party" doesn't really fit in the mould of the rest so i'm not counting it but it's one of their absolute best imo, the sophisti-country sound of it feels like something only they could do instead of just being a well-executed pastiche like it could have been

ufo, Monday, 6 April 2020 01:45 (four years ago) link

glad to see “102” mentioned! I’ve been listening to it all the time recently, it’s in my POX now

k3vin k., Monday, 6 April 2020 06:14 (four years ago) link

i do really love "nana" and "surrounded by heads and bodies." "jesus christ 2005 god bless america" is better than both tho.

petey v, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link

this is one of their best songs ever

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link

https://polyvinylrecords.bandcamp.com/track/me-the-1975

wonderful cover of me by owen. that happening feels kinda full circle

ufo, Friday, 10 April 2020 00:52 (four years ago) link

awakebutstillinbed also covered it this week, coincidentally

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Friday, 10 April 2020 01:33 (four years ago) link

the song kill for love by chromatics is a kind of 1975 song

Josh (phantompenguin), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 02:17 (four years ago) link

“If You’re Too Shy” coming next week, I’m fuckin perched

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:14 (four years ago) link

yessss

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 April 2020 08:38 (four years ago) link

the studio version of "if you're too shy"..... overwhelmingly powerful

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 18:42 (four years ago) link

it's mixed in a way that is making me feel insane but i like that the song crosses into SNL band territory at certain points, it's a super cheesy song

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 April 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link

feels to me like they've perfected the john hughes soundtrack cut aesthetic of the first record

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 18:54 (four years ago) link

"heart out" goes to the prom

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link

i was expecting something super clean like "she's american" but this is a bit wonkier than i expected off the live performances

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link

god "the birthday party" is so fucking good

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:01 (four years ago) link

I’m not too shy at all, Matty

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:32 (four years ago) link

I'VE BEEN
wearing nothing every time i
CALL YOU
and i'm starting to feel weird about it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:39 (four years ago) link

LOVE "if you're too shy"

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link

sooo gooooood ugh this band

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link

this is my lifebelt.

Nourry, Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link

sounds like they mixed it to stand out in a current pop environment like the bass is extra heavy

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link

i suppose i could quibble w the mix. like the horns could be brighter/sharper ? but that seems to miss the point

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link

feels to me like they've perfected the john hughes soundtrack cut aesthetic of the first record

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, April 23, 2020 2:54 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

"heart out" goes to the prom

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, April 23, 2020 2:56 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I love you for this

k3vin k., Thursday, 23 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

can’t wait to listen

k3vin k., Thursday, 23 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

i love love love the weird instrumental intro bit!

petey v, Thursday, 23 April 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link

that weird instrumental bit is a conciser version of their instrumentals imo

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 April 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link

wish Love, Simon were re-released with "If You're Too Shy" as a non-diegetic piece in one of those eyeing-you-from-afar scenes.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 April 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link

it's all kinda smushed together into a granola bar of sound to me but w/e that's most music is now

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 April 2020 20:26 (four years ago) link

i sort of like the symmetry of them doing another john hughes-y song but about avatar sex, stuff like "weird science" as a subtextual influence

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 April 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link

This is amazing

Tim F, Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link

The 1975 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Hughes

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link

“Weird Science” is a great reference point for this.

Tim F, Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link

o theres an official video of sorts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYYQpTbBSBM

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link

its also, and maybe this is so obvious its not worth mentioning, extremely Prince

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link

'i could never take the place of your man'

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link

yes

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link

yep "I could never take the place of your man" is the first song I thought about too. god this song fucking rules

k3vin k., Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:47 (four years ago) link

the chugging bass part makes me more sure i want to see them get into wax trax

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link

"Well, I found the hotel/I called up the twins/It's seven in the morning so they won't let me in" is sharp writing.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link

one of us!

k3vin k., Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link

true or false:

the current 1975 listening cru is actually the the-dream listening cru reconstituted

― k3vin k., Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:29 PM (two years ago)

k3vin k., Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link

oh god yes

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link

to such an extent that I get suffocated (I like The 1975).

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link

"Well, I found the hotel/I called up the twins/It's seven in the morning so they won't let me in" is sharp writing.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, April 23, 2020 4:53 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

what is 'the twins' a reference to

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:21 (four years ago) link

Ashley and Mary-Kate?

Tim F, Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link

"Matty Healy tweets that The 1975 have two brand new members: Kaylee and Taitlyn Jaiy. If you've caught the band on tour since then, you'll recognise Kaylee and Taitlyn as the twin dancers and backing singers who bop in unison to a backdrop of neon rectangles, blinking TV sets and messages of millennial ennui"

Don't know if that's what he's talking about though!

aphoristical, Friday, 24 April 2020 00:17 (four years ago) link

that actually might be it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 24 April 2020 00:22 (four years ago) link

The Winklevi?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 April 2020 00:23 (four years ago) link

I'm happy they're still making tracks that could fit into the first album while expanding their sound on other tracks. Solid song, great intro

Vinnie, Friday, 24 April 2020 02:19 (four years ago) link

this song is about being into a cam girl right

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 24 April 2020 04:01 (four years ago) link

man they couldn't close-up on one of those other two guys' faces even once? not even during the sax solo?

alpine static, Friday, 24 April 2020 07:42 (four years ago) link

song rules of course but the slight difference between the live & studio version is weird - the studio version has synth horns in the chorus it sounds like instead of the sax?

ufo, Friday, 24 April 2020 13:29 (four years ago) link

upon reflection this song is crazy good. i love how it’s kinda got this downbeat dramatic moroseness going on in the verses a la “somebody else” before becoming this cheesy rockefeller center vamp

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 April 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link

I wonder if the artwork for Jesus Christ 2005 God Bless America is supposed to be a nod to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 April 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link

for some reason i put on "me" tonight

i was late
but i arrived
i'm sorry but i'd rather be getting high than watching my family die

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link

"if you're too shy" cured my depression etc

full disclosure: i was a bit worried they were losing me with the britpop stuff

tpp, Saturday, 25 April 2020 05:50 (four years ago) link

Whitney Houston + “You Get What You Give”

Sam Weller, Saturday, 25 April 2020 18:34 (four years ago) link

https://youtu.be/hAofFHPRZTE

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 25 April 2020 20:34 (four years ago) link

"people" and "frail state of mind" were a bit of a dip for me but they're on another incredible run of singles again

J0rdan S., Sunday, 26 April 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

[june 2018]
give yourself a try
love it if we made it
too time
sincerity is scary
it's not living if it's not with you
people
frail state of mind
me & you together song
the birthday party
jesus christ 2005
if you're too shy
[may 2020]

and it's just the singles

thank you kings

J0rdan S., Sunday, 26 April 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

"frail state of mind" sounds a lot better now that we've heard so many of the surrounding tracks

Tim F, Monday, 27 April 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link

it’s the single i’ve spent the least amount of time with and thus it sounds really fantastic rn

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 27 April 2020 00:33 (three years ago) link

i remain a “people” truther

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 27 April 2020 00:33 (three years ago) link

I was into "frail" from the beginning and it still slaps imo. honestly haven't given "people" a third listen

k3vin k., Monday, 27 April 2020 00:51 (three years ago) link

would probably rank the new singles

me & you
if you're too shy
jesus christ
frail state of mind
birthday party
people

k3vin k., Monday, 27 April 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link

"people" is great. still haven't listened to anything released after "frail" lol

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 27 April 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link

i admire your restraint but please just listen to "if you're too shy" right now

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 27 April 2020 01:47 (three years ago) link

I refuse!!!

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 27 April 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link

amazing

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 27 April 2020 02:04 (three years ago) link

hi k3v

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 April 2020 02:22 (three years ago) link

I also liked "frail" from the start, but its refusal of any real chorus feels much more deliberate in circumstances where the following four songs they have released are each, in one way or another, massive singalong anthems.

Tim F, Monday, 27 April 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link

"frail state of mind" is one of their very best tracks i think but it was kinda low-key for a single

ufo, Monday, 27 April 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link

i still think it's a limp, reheated TOOTIME and my least favorite of the new album's singles

alpine static, Monday, 27 April 2020 06:45 (three years ago) link

I appreciate People for sounding like a Mclusky tribute.

cajunsunday, Monday, 27 April 2020 08:00 (three years ago) link

with "frail state of mind" i just love that they finally took the sound of their mostly-instrumental electronic pieces like "how to draw/petrichor" and "i like it when you sleep..." and made an actual song from it, it's so gorgeous sounding

ufo, Monday, 27 April 2020 08:15 (three years ago) link

i was always a 'frail state of mind' supporter, but now with all the singles released so far it seems to me it's not the strongest one, but still amazing.
i would rank the new singles like this

if you're too shy
me & you
jesus christ
birthday party
frail state of mind
people

Nourry, Monday, 27 April 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link

FKA twigs is on two songs and Phoebe Bridgers is on four (4) songs, jeez

https://theface.com/music/the-1975-takeover-matty-healy-interview-notes-on-a-conditional-form

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link

phoebe bridgers having been a fan of them in high school is kinda confusing me because she's a year older than me and they did not have any music out when i was in high school. my first impression of them a few years after high school was they were like a tryhard landfill indie band in the vein of two door cinema club or something which couldn't have been more wrong in the end lol

ufo, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link

That was how I saw them too hah

Josh (phantompenguin), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link

jesus christ you're all children

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

brief internet detective work suggests bridgers would've been 18 when the early eps started coming out

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

i only heard the stevie nicks and steve reich podcasts matty did but both are really great.
quite surprised that reich highlights 'jesus christ...' of all songs.

Nourry, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

I was listening to "Calling All Stations" by INXS for the first time and the intro is a dead ringer for a first album style 1975 song

Vinnie, Thursday, 7 May 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1jw6Jw1Fqk

what is with the mix on this lol

ufo, Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:02 (three years ago) link

this thread is way too long...

i would have been seeing The 1975 for the first time tonight here in Southern California. i guess i won't be having "Sex" tonight after all.

Bee OK, Friday, 8 May 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

"brief internet detective work suggests bridgers would've been 18 when the early eps started coming out" yeah but I think the majority of people don't turn 18 until their senior year or after.

akm, Friday, 8 May 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

Am I being too hopeful if I still believe I'll see them in October?

Nourry, Saturday, 9 May 2020 00:44 (three years ago) link

https://youtube/LNBwBeI4HG8

Probably the best band on earth.

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 May 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link

https://youtu.be/LNBwBeI4HG8

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 May 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link

Looks like they got really lucky recently:

https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a32360709/coronavirus-music-industry/

Artists who’ve cancelled or rescheduled tours will also be trying to save money. When a band books a run of dates, they commit to their production costs up-front. If it doesn’t go ahead, they’re still liable. The 1975, who were due to hit the road in the US this spring, sidestepped a multi million-pound bill for their North America tour by cancelling before they had booked transport and backline support. “If we were to cancel the tour on, say, the third date, those costs would have remained even though the income had disappeared,” says manager Jamie Oborne. “It would have bankrupted the band.”

Also you should all read that piece anyway.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 May 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

tomorrow 'guys' will be out.
i'm going to weep so hard.

Nourry, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link

http://pilerats.com/written/get-to-know/the-1975-matt-healy-notes-on-a-conditional-form-feature-interview/

here's an interview with a bunch of track descriptions including that "shiny collarbone" is a grime track featuring dancehall singer cutty ranks

ufo, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 05:33 (three years ago) link

does he mention making out with Taylor York

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

i dedicate this one to the posters itt who have been there since the beginning

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 May 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

i always wanna guys sometimes

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

they just released the ultimate friendship song, didn't they?

Bee OK, Thursday, 14 May 2020 01:28 (three years ago) link

the ultimate friendship song remains "lean on me"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 May 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

There are so many.

Waiting on a Friend
I Won't Share You
Can't Stand Me Now

...all British, I see lol

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 May 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link

"Thank You Friends"!!

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 May 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link

i dedicate this one to the posters itt who have been there since the beginning

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:05 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

weeping

k3vin k., Thursday, 14 May 2020 10:31 (three years ago) link

very curious whether the singles were chosen to encompass the breadth of the album. i hope not! i want the album the surprise me the same way each new single has.

Josh (phantompenguin), Sunday, 17 May 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

all the reviews seem to say its their most eclectic yet

ufo, Monday, 18 May 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link

Feels unbelievable that this is actually coming out in just a few days. Seems like only yesterday since A Brief Inquiry came out...

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 18 May 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

given their previous six-minute instrumental track i am v excited to hear "having no head"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 18 May 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

these guys look like dicks I refuse to listen to them

no (Left), Monday, 18 May 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

that was a bad post sorry

no (Left), Monday, 18 May 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET5CrFoXUZ0

i don't like going outside so bring me everything here

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 18 May 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

xp i mean i felt that way in like 2013 (and still think their look from that era is pretty goofy) but i was sooo wrong

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link

oh my god that "People" is literally mclusky

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link

every live version of people sounds so much better than the studio version

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 02:41 (three years ago) link

god i rly hope they do one of "the birthday party"

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 02:47 (three years ago) link

album's out there

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 05:43 (three years ago) link

furiously looking

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 05:47 (three years ago) link

so far "i think there's something you should know" is really cool and the sequencing is messier than i could have imagined

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 06:28 (three years ago) link

"nothing revealed/everything denied" is a chance the rapper track

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 06:31 (three years ago) link

jesus "roadkill" is phenomenal

ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 06:51 (three years ago) link

Really curious about 21. "Don't Worry" (written by: Tim Healy)

aphoristical, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 07:03 (three years ago) link

i'm a little underwhelmed, there are a lot of really great moments on this, but most of them are on the singles, and it's such a mess. ilwys got away with its length by being sequenced perfectly while this is ridiculously all over the place. some of the electronic tracks in particular feel underdeveloped - they sound gorgeous as always but don't end up doing enough with what's there. there's definitely a very good album of a more normal length here at least

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 07:32 (three years ago) link

"what should i say"

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 08:28 (three years ago) link

the new "the birthday party" intro *_*

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 08:30 (three years ago) link

the filler seems pretty clear so far

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 09:05 (three years ago) link

I'm sort of shocked at how little I'm connecting with so much of this :/

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 09:14 (three years ago) link

yeah that was my reaction too

like "yeah i know" and "bagsy not in net", among others, feel like unfinished sketches and "then because she goes" has potential it's just over way too quick and the auto-tune bit doesn't really work

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 09:30 (three years ago) link

man, y'all up early!

Listening now.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 10:22 (three years ago) link

there is not a song called bagsy not in net

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 10:29 (three years ago) link

its not much of a song to be fair

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 10:30 (three years ago) link

there is not a song called bagsy not in net

― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, May 19, 2020 12:29 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

My slsk download revealed it's actually a perfect rendition of 'Never Gonna Give You Up'!

damn y’all aren’t connecting to something that leaked a few hours ago

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:11 (three years ago) link

all right... smoking some weed... making some coffee... i'm ready

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:40 (three years ago) link

i have listened to "i think there's something you should know" sooo many times this evening

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

frail state of mind still like passing through a vortex

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:53 (three years ago) link

wait til you hear "i think there's something you should know" as far as passing through a vortex goes

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link

"the birthday party" is such an amazing song

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:58 (three years ago) link

Never mind. I was unable to find it.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

i think "yeah i know" is extremely cool, i'm in love with that "veridis quo" synth line

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link

and then "then because she goes" is a hey mercedes song

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link

that is way too short but i'll take it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link

wish they'd written a full "tom courtenay" instead of the half they gave us

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:10 (three years ago) link

ROADKILL

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link

wait til you hear "i think there's something you should know" as far as passing through a vortex goes

― ufo, Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:57 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

wow correct

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:20 (three years ago) link

"nothing revealed/everything denied" is a chance the rapper track

― ufo, Monday, May 18, 2020 11:31 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

oh yeah and it's fuckin sick

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:24 (three years ago) link

life
feels like a lie
i need something to be true

is there anybody out there?????

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link

i've just had a huge smile on my face through "i think there's something you should know" -> "nothing revealed/everything denied" -> "tonight i wish i was your boy"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link

that middle stretch from "jesus christ" to "tonight" is my favourite part

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:28 (three years ago) link

"tonight"!!! that's sophistipop!!!!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link

"shiny collarbone" is fucking sick

this is such a disjointed experience but idk i already love it a lot more than brief inquiry (a record i love)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

wish they'd written a full "tom courtenay" instead of the half they gave us

― ufo, Tuesday, May 19, 2020 3:10 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

The YLT song? It's amusing trying to piece together how this sounds based on these comments.

OK found a copy

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

yeah the ylt song

it sounds like at least 4 different albums in different genres shuffled together

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link

yes it really does

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link

meanwhile "if youre too shy" is still the best song i've ever heard

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

"If You're Too Shy" is such a well-constructed song.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

"shiny collarbone" is very cool but is the peak of the absolutely bizarre sequencing

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link

really think they nailed the acoustic songs on this record, "playing on my mind" is just another example of that

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link

imo they should be writing for country artists

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link

and producing

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link

"having no head" is like "how to draw/petrichor" pt 3

i am so pleased

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link

"what should i say"

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, May 19, 2020 1:28 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

what a fuckin weird record

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link

it has maybe the weirdest/worst sequencing of any record ive ever heard

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link

second only to the last one

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link

?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link

the whiplash effect of the sequencing is i think a feature for me in the case of this particular record

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link

wake up wake up wake up it's tuesday morning

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

i think "yeah i know" is fucking amazing

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

i know it gets hard sometimes
making out with people that you don't like

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

I lol'd at the "sorry for not chiming in on the election, I'm busy" line wherever that happened

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

I kind of suspect this is not coalescing for me for similar reasons as the hayley williams album and a couple others this year and that's the combo of super eclectic sonics and super insular writing which grates on me probably unfairly

there's lots to like in both of course

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link

and i won’t get clothes online 'cause i get worried about the fit
that rule don’t apply concerning my relationships

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

very jarring to see pinegrove and their "weirdness" namechecked in song

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

adore most of this on first listen but yup the sequencing is truly bizarre. also don't really care for the bookend-y instrumentals on either side of "frail state of mind."

two moments that hit me particularly hard: "feeling like someone, like somebody else, who don't feel himself" on "i think there's something you should know" + those "i kno-o-o-ow" bits of the "roadkill" chorus

petey v, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link

every time matt uses "we" I wonder who he thinks he's talking about ("I'm not made of it", sure pal)

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link

people like people, they want alive people? yeah right matty

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

"Then Because She Goes" is one of the best things on here imho

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

yeah that shit is emo

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

re: the bridge of "roadkill"

youuuuuu
i've been waiting for youuuu
my whole life

maybe my favorite melody matty's ever written, my god

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

it's the best of the album tracks

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

with all due respect, you guys are fucking crazy. this album is ridiculously good.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

otm as hell

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

I have the usual trouble, and I suppose it's a minority opinion: I don't need so many instrumentals or quasi-instrumentals.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

yeah they do this no favors. save it for the EPs lads

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link

there are four and i'd say "having no head" and "shiny collarbone" rule and the other two are very short and pretty framing devices for "frail state of mind" and "the birthday party"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

"shiny collarbone" being the only thing i can think of as something y'all would consider a "quasi-instrumental" i guess

everything else is fully formed

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

i don't get the complaints about the sequencing at all. if you wanna say there's filler ok, i disagree & think the instrumentals/electronic tracks stand up on their own but it's 22 tracks so i get you. but from a sequencing perspective i find it quite beautiful and cohesive. the last album jumped around wildly in terms of style & for that reason i haven't listened to it front to back in ages, but here i think they're working in a pretty established aesthetic continuum. electronica, shoegaze-y guitars, folk/country... stuff like this has interacted in tons of different ways for ages, the juxtaposition of textures on this album makes total sense to me. also love that the album has this warm center, they transition into and out of it w/ colder electronic and soundscapey production in a way that i think is quite effective. a lot of you guys are tripping imo.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

i guess the intro counts too but i listen to that thing front-to-back every time! yasss greta hurt my feelings about mass extinction xp

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

on a stan nerd level it's like they dove back into the EP aesthetic and blew it up into its own world in a way that is distinctly post-everything that came after it and for that reason i think it's a kick ass record too

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link

booming posts j0rd

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

this record has made me realize that I don't like matty all that much anymore, or at least not enough to spend 80 minutes with ~matty thoughts~

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

10. "Roadkill"
11. "Me & You Together Song"
12. "I Think There's Something You Should Know"
13. "Nothing Revealed / Everything Denied"
14. "Tonight (I Wish I Was Your Boy)"
15. "Shiny Collarbone"
16. "If You're Too Shy (Let Me Know)"
17. "Playing on My Mind"
18. "Having No Head"
19. "What Should I Say"

i'm seriously just looking at this and laughing

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

nothing but hits

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

on a stan nerd level it's like they dove back into the EP aesthetic and blew it up into its own world in a way that is distinctly post-everything that came after it

can you develop this?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

i do not understand what is objectionable about the lyrics

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

"what should i say" is completely doing my head in haha

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

"Tonight" sounds like Passion Pit

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

i do not understand what is objectionable about the lyrics

there's nothing wrong with them really, I just find him exhausting at this length

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

On a purely aural level, it's their most delicious. The confidence of the singles -- their strongest run imo -- does complement the quieter Burial/Radiohead stuff; Healy can make these fabulous declarative statements, then disappear into the music for a while ("Shiny Collarbone," "Yeah I Know") before reemerging. It plays like a deejay set.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link

on a stan nerd level it's like they dove back into the EP aesthetic and blew it up into its own world in a way that is distinctly post-everything that came after it

can you develop this?

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, May 19, 2020 12:43 PM (thirty seconds ago)

to me the overarching palate of this album is the electronic/shoegazey sound of the EPs, but it's also distinctly post-everything the band made after those EPs (maybe that part wasn't quite clear). there's the neo-soul stuff, the "tootime"ish pop, the cheesey "she's american" 80s numbers, acoustic tracks and flirting w/ country, the orchestral stuff from the last album. some of it is fully self-referential as well... "nothing revealed" opens in a way that calls back to "sincerity is scary" etc. again it all strikes me as pretty coherent as a standalone record and w/in the context of the band's career arc.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

On a purely aural level, it's their most delicious.

i think i agree!

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

yeah i was gonna add to your point j0rd that it's like what would happen if the eps were released after a brief inquiry, so it's almost a more in-focus version of them, this mutable liquid space that can just as easily result in something like "roadkill" as "bagsy not in net" (incredible song btw vastly underrated itt)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

this is the album i've always wanted them to make without knowing it lol

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

bagsy not in net

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

It plays like a deejay set.

yup

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link

The strings on "Bagsy..." remind me of Christopher Cross' "Sailing"!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link

OI MATES SOME BIG BOTTOM BIRD IS ALL OVER THE NEWSY WEWSIES, I"M GONNA MAKE ME A 'ORRIBLE POST ABOUT IT TO ME ILXOR CHUMS, ALSO BLOOD SAUSAGE IS DELICIOUS BAGSY NOT IN NET

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

lmao

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

j0rd thank-you for those posts, particularly the one referencing the EPs.
really interesting to think about.

i think i'm falling completely in love with this thing.

ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

downright shocked at how many times i've listened to an 80-minute record today

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

the chorus melody/harmony on "roadkill" is absolutely haunting

ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link

this is the album i've always wanted them to make without knowing it lol

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, May 19, 2020 12:56 PM (twelve minutes ago)

yes!

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link

other than a long walk earlier, I've gotten no work b/c I'm listening to this frustrating, beautiful album for the fifth time and discussing with favorite colleagues.

#covid4ever

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

i can't stop looping "tonight..."

ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link

just an absolutely immaculate track

ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

girls
food
gear

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

the "chorus" payoff of "what should i say" is actually a bit underwhelming i'm finding. wish it wasn't wordless - feels a bit too spotifycore imo.

ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

live "birthday party" :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5RYo3TnhG8&feature=emb_title

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

i'm going through the whole catalog today baby!!! band of the fucking decade!!!!!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

i spent the all day without the chance to hear this. i can't wait for what will happen in the next 80 minutes.

Nourry, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

ever listen to "head.cars.bending" when you're really stoned

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

yes, highly recommended

have not heard this yet but encouraging signs include 1) the singles, 2) jordan and brad being all in 3) posts that start with “on a stan nerd level”

k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:36 (three years ago) link

They really weren’t kidding about this thing having Burial beats!

josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

The confidence of the singles -- their strongest run imo -- does complement the quieter Burial/Radiohead stuff; Healy can make these fabulous declarative statements, then disappear into the music for a while ("Shiny Collarbone," "Yeah I Know") before reemerging. It plays like a deejay set.

Yeah. I got to know the 1975 through the music first, and only later started taking note of matty as a public figure. He has a big personality, obviously, but seems very assured and clear eyed on when to play the solipsism angle for artistic effect, and when to just get out, and make room for other sentiments.

Josh (phantompenguin), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link

"if you're too shy" into "playing on my mind" into "having no head" into "what should i say" into "bagsy" really feels like the fully developed original thesis of the band to me. like if you heard the EP/first album and then that stretch it would make total sense to you as "growth" even if you hadn't heard the stuff in between

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

I would like to hear more about “tonight”

k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

'bagsy not in net' is channeling deep the streets-weak become heroes vibes.
this record is so weird and wonderful.

Nourry, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

Bagsy Not in Net is 100% sampling the intro to "Sailing", right?

MarkoP, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link

I would like to hear more about “tonight”
its a gorgeous sophisti-pop track built around a temptations sample

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:50 (three years ago) link

did this leak or something?

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

yeah

ufo, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:33 (three years ago) link

i can kinda forgive the sequencing for being so weird because i really have no idea how you'd make something that flows at all coherently out of this stylistic grab bag. but iliwys was almost as long and expansive and that's a masterpiece of sequencing so, you know, i have high expectations for this band.

i did already make a radically resequenced playlist that cuts out like a third of the album and i like it a lot better but there's a lot of stuff that i like fine but couldn't make fit at all.

ufo, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link

a lot of the shorter tracks feel like interludes but they don't actually work to bridge anything so they're just jarring where they are. like "bagsy not in net" is a nice enough loop but i wish they'd done more with it or placed it somewhere it would have actually worked as an interlude. "shiny collarbone" is a bit more substantial but the same thing goes for it. "then because she goes" is a great half of a song but again the sequencing does it no favours at all.

the other tracks that i like the least are "yeah i know" which has potential but just doesn't have enough to it to keep me interested, and "what should i say" which is a nice groove but i don't care for the vocals at all and it's just lacking something.

another thing with the sequencing is the start of the album is soooo slow with the 5 minute ambient/greta intro and another 4 minutes of orchestral interludes in the first 15 minutes.

the singles are all pretty much perfect except "people" and even that's grown on me. "roadkill" and "i think there's something you should know" are perfect too. "playing on my mind" is very good, it's nice they've finally gotten the acoustic tracks right on this album. no one's really said anything about "don't worry" but it's gorgeous. i'm not blown away by either "tonight" or "nothing revealed/everything denied" but they're still quite good. i like "having no head" a fair bit but not quite as much as "how to draw/petrichor" or the iliwys title track as far as their 6 minute electronic pieces go.

here's my current attempt at resequencing it to satisfy my frustrations with it:
The End (Music For Cars)
Frail State Of Mind
Me & You Together Song
Roadkill
Jesus Christ 2005 God Bless America
The Birthday Party
Having No Head
I Think There's Something You Should Know
Shiny Collarbone
Tonight (I Wish I Was Your Boy)
Nothing Revealed / Everything Denied
Playing On My Mind
If You're Too Shy (Let Me Know)
Don't Worry
Guys

i'm still not quite sure if this sequence is better with or without "shiny collarbone" there but in the spirit of the album i'm keeping it around for now. i really could not make "then because she goes" fit anywhere unfortunately. i've never been huge on "people".

ufo, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link

"what should i say" which is a nice groove but i don't care for the vocals at all and it's just lacking something

????????????????????????????

ok i'll stop lol

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

you did prove that you can edit this tight 80 minute record into a tight 58 minute record (which iirc is the length of a brief inquiry)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link

this album is so many things but it's the opposite of tight

to be clear, outside of the like three tracks i'm not too into, everything on this album ranges from 'very good' to 'the best thing they've ever done'. this is a very good record in spite of the baffling sequencing which actively detracts from it. i've probably been a little too negative due to being underwhelmed on first listen, there's so much to love here anyway.

anyway i want a 10 minute version of "i think there's something you should know"

ufo, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link

my edit is like 52 mins but I dare not share it lol

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

58 mins already feels very sex and the city 2

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link

idk album feels like it whips by for me despite being 80 minutes. might be an oxymoron to consider that "tight" but

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link

it does manage to get away with its length somehow through sheer variety

there was a recent interview where matty said it might be interesting to make the next album short "like hats or spirit of eden" so i'm expecting we'll get their first official double album instead

ufo, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link

"like hats or spirit of eden"

:))))))

k3vin k., Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

is "yeah i know" the best song i've ever heard

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

laughing at how incredible this is

überweiss, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link

the appropriate response

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link

the way I know I'm a bad fan for sure is I that I don't like "guys"

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

I don't even really mean this as a knock but this album is a very weird kind of "eclectic" where (with the exception of "people") it's not so much 22 different styles as it is five very specific styles done a few times each to varying degrees of success (dubstep inflected pop, folky tunes, c86 worship, more "straightforward" 80s style/"early 1975" pop songs, gauzy insturmentals)

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

btw through arguing with someone over whether the instrumental tracks on this album are any good, another person mentioned "the end" is kind of an orchestral rearrangement of "hnscc" from the music for cars ep. i knew it sounded familiar!!!! it also sounds a lot like "lostmyhead," the vocal melody of which first appeared in "facedown" from the first ep; have to think that's on purpose

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

motific composition has been rebranded as repetition in our stupid capitalist economy; this band's tendency to use similar chord progressions and hooks across their oeuvre is a strength

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

Is anyone actually knocking them for that

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

the run of the last six songs on a brief inquiry is so good

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

this album is so many things but it's the opposite of tight

cant wait to hear

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link

I did try to find the leak but gave up after a while, will wait for Friday I guess.

Matty saying "like hats or spirit of eden" is trolling the OG nerd-stans ITT (and me in particular), but coincidentally I have been listening to Steve Jansen and Richard Barbieri's 'Stories Across Borders' which (a) is the exact midpoint of those two records and (b) is 35 minutes long, and if the 1975 give me something in that vein next I'll take it.

Tim F, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link

... and then I clicked on the Blue Nile thread and discovered soundslike has used a track from that album for his latest Blue Nile tribute mix.

Tim F, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link

of course

k3vin k., Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link

*hivemind fluctuates*

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link

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i think there's something you should know

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

waiting til friday for this. no idea what to expect based on recent posts itt.

Spottie, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:28 (three years ago) link

they were using "the end" as the live intro to "somebody else" last year

ufo, Thursday, 21 May 2020 00:38 (three years ago) link

when do albums generally get posted to streaming sites? i don't normally pay attn to shit like that but i will stay up Thursday nite for this if it's midnight Eastern or w/e

alpine static, Thursday, 21 May 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

I can't believe Simon listened to this album before I did (waiting to listen on release date like a True Stan)

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 21 May 2020 00:52 (three years ago) link

there's one thing i know for sure and it's that "shiny collarbone" rules

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 May 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link

alpine its often at midnight EST but not always the case

Spottie, Thursday, 21 May 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link

I'm falling in love with it everytime I hear it.

Nourry, Thursday, 21 May 2020 00:56 (three years ago) link

I love this thread

#guys

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 May 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link

'what should i say' is such a masterpiece. and i really wish that 'then because she goes' would last a little bit longer.

Nourry, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link

if not an exact match in sound i'm gonna say in spirit (and in length lol) this is the 1975's smashing pumpkins adore

where's that posts very much in character thread

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:12 (three years ago) link

i feel like it's closer to their mellon collie in spirit, i get the adore comparison because of the dual electronics/folk directions they pushed in but adore still manages to be much more singular in vibe while mellon collie is the real stylistic grab bag

ufo, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:18 (three years ago) link

i keep waiting for "what should i say" to get corny the more i play it but instead i'm becoming convinced it's one of the greatest songs i've ever heard

J0rdan S., Thursday, 21 May 2020 04:21 (three years ago) link

lots of cool behind-the-scenes stuff here: https://www.mindshower.ai/ as well as stems for some of the singles

ufo, Thursday, 21 May 2020 04:58 (three years ago) link

hearing matty's a capellas this clearly is wild

J0rdan S., Thursday, 21 May 2020 07:23 (three years ago) link

the swirling ambient synth arpeggios in "i think there's something you should know" are so loveless

ufo, Thursday, 21 May 2020 07:41 (three years ago) link

really wish they'd given us the "frail state of mind" stems

ufo, Thursday, 21 May 2020 07:43 (three years ago) link

i'd like to meet myself and swap clothes
i think there's some place i should go
...
i think there's something you should know

;_;

überweiss, Thursday, 21 May 2020 10:53 (three years ago) link

is the vocal melody of 'roadkill' the best piece of music on earth? i think so.

Nourry, Thursday, 21 May 2020 11:21 (three years ago) link

i've been waiting for youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

ufo, Thursday, 21 May 2020 11:24 (three years ago) link

is the vocal melody of 'roadkill' the best piece of music on earth? i think so.

― Nourry, Thursday, May 21, 2020 4:21 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 May 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

yes

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 May 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

wait no

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 May 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

"Me & You Together Song" is the best melody on earth.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 May 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

i think my favorite songs on this are "yeah i know" and "bagsy not in net"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 May 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

"Me & You Together Song" is the best melody on earth.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

yes

Nourry, Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:15 (three years ago) link

I love this album but no amount of resequencing could make this album less messy, should have ended with "Don't Worry" which of course has wrecked me

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 22 May 2020 03:21 (three years ago) link

i maintain the sequencing could have at least been less jarring. "don't worry" into "guys" is a perfect way to close the album though

ufo, Friday, 22 May 2020 03:29 (three years ago) link

lol the p4k 8.0 is such a hedge

ripersnifle, Friday, 22 May 2020 05:18 (three years ago) link

https://music.apple.com/au/album/notes-on-a-conditional-form-deluxe-apple-music-edition/1513452152

track-by-track notes here in the "editors's notes". matty confirms "the end" is an arrangement of "hnscc" among other tidbits

ufo, Friday, 22 May 2020 05:28 (three years ago) link

Didn’t think I liked this band, but I like this. Should I go back and revisit the two last ones?

Mule, Friday, 22 May 2020 07:45 (three years ago) link

you're asking the wrong thread, man, everyone here hates them

alpine static, Friday, 22 May 2020 07:51 (three years ago) link

me, on the other hand, i like them and i'm awake, so i'd say: yes, but don't stop at two, go for three

alpine static, Friday, 22 May 2020 07:52 (three years ago) link

don't forget the EPs

the further back you go in their albums, the more they sound like "if you're too shy" so unless you really don't like that one go for it

ufo, Friday, 22 May 2020 08:20 (three years ago) link

I am only up to "Tonight" but I already like this more than the last album, which I did like but not as much as the first two albums and mostly for the singles. I'm really impressed by the breadth but more importantly the consistency of the album tracks so far, many as strong as what's been released. it'll take a few listens to really unpack this though, given the variety and number of tracks

oh wow "Shiny Collarbone" is out there even for this album

Vinnie, Friday, 22 May 2020 09:38 (three years ago) link

omg "What Should I Say". this song is such a jam. and I'm only now realizing that the band rarely do minor key songs, right?

Vinnie, Friday, 22 May 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link

Didn’t think I liked this band, but I like this. Should I go back and revisit the two last ones?

― Mule, Friday, May 22, 2020 3:45 AM (two hours ago

yes! and the debut

k3vin k., Friday, 22 May 2020 10:23 (three years ago) link

i actually can't think of a single minor key song they've done apart from "what should i say"

ufo, Friday, 22 May 2020 10:30 (three years ago) link

don't forget the EPs

the further back you go in their albums, the more they sound like "if you're too shy" so unless you really don't like that one go for it

― ufo, 22. mai 2020 10:20 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is interesting, I really like that one. Maybe I could have liked them all along? I remember not responding to the last one at all.

Mule, Friday, 22 May 2020 11:15 (three years ago) link

Will do a review this weekend

Mule, Friday, 22 May 2020 11:16 (three years ago) link

Certainly few where it's clearly a minor key xp they have some like "Somebody Else" which are ambiguous

Vinnie, Friday, 22 May 2020 11:30 (three years ago) link

"somebody else" is lydian i think? but i'm no expert

ufo, Friday, 22 May 2020 11:36 (three years ago) link

I'm not that great with theory either but I think whether it's a major key, minor key, or Lydian mode just depends on what you think the tonic is

Vinnie, Friday, 22 May 2020 12:18 (three years ago) link

... running away with me

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 22 May 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

hit that shit go hit that shit

J. Sam, Friday, 22 May 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link

I listened to the singles on the last album too much before the album released and so didn't ever really come appreciate that album beyond the singles; so this time I resolved to listen to the album only come release date. all I want to say for now is that "If You're Too Shy" is excellent & the verses sound like a sped-up version of "Run Like Hell" by PINK FLOYD RULES

Joey Corona (Euler), Friday, 22 May 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

"bagsy not in net" is the most beautiful piece of music ever made

uberweiss, Friday, 22 May 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link

do you wanna leave at
the same time?

uberweiss, Friday, 22 May 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

the interplay between the harp and the strings on "the end" <3

uberweiss, Friday, 22 May 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

when matty actually sings 'fraiiil state of mind' in the bridge. a moment

uberweiss, Friday, 22 May 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

it doesn't get better than "you make a little hobby out of going to the lobby to get things that they don't have / does it go THROUGHYA" onwards in 'the birthday party'

whole song is perfect, but that last minute is just madness

uberweiss, Friday, 22 May 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

"bagsy not in net" is the most beautiful piece of music ever made

― uberweiss, Friday, May 22, 2020 11:00 AM (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is how i feel, may it rip open an interdimensional genre hole that is just remixes of "sailing"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

i listened to one guided by voices album like 10 years ago but "then because she goes" reminds me of them for some reason. just like this short burst of a song. it's gorgeous. also i personally think the sequencing on this is amazing lol

uberweiss, Friday, 22 May 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link

I can't imagine listening to most of this often but it's definitely impressive, they're reaaaally good stylistic mimics. I love pretty much all of the UK garage-y tracks.

'What Should I Say' feels like it was written right after hearing Kanye's 'Fade'.

'Me & You Together Song' is both fascinating & repellent as a pastiche (of what exactly, Oasis and certain '90s corporate alt-pop?), with that over-swung rhythm feel that's really gross.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 22 May 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

i follow way too many dummies on twitter who think they're so above giving this band a chance or any positive attention

alpine static, Friday, 22 May 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link

its funny how they were too pop for the haters originally and now theyre too pretentious art rock nonsense or whatever

ufo, Saturday, 23 May 2020 00:07 (three years ago) link

I find this band to be a hard sell to my friends. listening to this album reminds me of the experience of listening to music as a teenager. not sure if those two things are related

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 23 May 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link

Until now, I did not realize that Tonight also is based around a sample of Hiroshi Sato's Say Goodbye, as well as the aforementioned Temptations sample.

MarkoP, Saturday, 23 May 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link

Why isn't anyone talking about the song Matty did with his dad, am I the only softy in here

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 23 May 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link

the end of "roadkill" has me imagining him writing a song for little big town

J0rdan S., Saturday, 23 May 2020 04:19 (three years ago) link

yes

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link

best 2 opening songs ever lmao

flopson, Saturday, 23 May 2020 05:29 (three years ago) link

A quick playlist.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 May 2020 06:35 (three years ago) link

"bagsy not in net" is what i imagine the unreleased air france uk garage album sounds like

does matty know about air france

ufo, Saturday, 23 May 2020 09:02 (three years ago) link

ok let's do this

intro into People is actually amazing lol

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

and then a completely baffling instrumental lol i see they're going for some sort of total-fragmentation vibe

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link

I thought “the end (music for cars)” was a little trite the first time I heard it but I’m into it now

k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link

this sort of negotiates its way through various fragmented & intense moods to a complete freakout/breakdown at around nothing revealed/everything denied -> tonight (i wish i was your boy), v intrigued how it negotiates its way back (or if it does)

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link

"If You're Too Shy" is the song I'm gonna listen to a million times

Joey Corona (Euler), Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

'shiny collarbone' continues to exist within the madness, this is all building up to 'if you're too shy' isn't it

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

yes, after which the true breakdown happens imo

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link

this feels like the true expansion/refinement of ILIWYS (for example 'if you're too shy' is reminiscent of 'change of heart', 'she's american' AND 'this must be my dream' but approached from a new, slightly grander angle), last album shd have been the Love It If We Made It EP ;)

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link

[whichever of the lesser singles you prefer]
how to draw/petrichor
LIIWMI
[whichever of the deep cuts you inexplicably love]
i always wanna die (sometimes)

i digress

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link

rn i'm just thinking about how good "the birthday party" is

:)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

these last few tracks feel really confident, like something has been overcome. like they're drawing power from the madness, or that they're okay with it. the basslines are very emphatic

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

i feel like it's less of a refinement of ILIWYS and more of an explosion of it. the coherent widescreen emotional arc of ILIWYS has been blown up, leaving behind extreme fragmentation. i still don't really like or get the sequencing but i can't deny it's interesting

ufo, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

'the end' and 'roadkill' were the weird tonal jumps for me, everything else has sort of made sense, but i expect those to make sense as well eventually

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

i love the way matty sings "i'm just a BUSY GUY" in "roadkill" so much lol

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link

great closer, great album. their best

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link

throw this entire band in jail if they don’t release a 20 minute cut of “then because she goes”

k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

i never fucked in a car, i was lying
i do it on my bed, lying down, not trying

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

"playing on my mind" is the sort of song they've done several times before ("nana", "she lays down") that I've just never been able to settle into

k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link

"what should I say" !!!!!!

k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

this is their “wowed zowee”. incredible album

k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

either their best or second best after 'i like it when you sleep'

flopson, Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

i rolled my eyes when i first heard it but the greta thunberg spoken word made me cry last nite lol

flopson, Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

I can see why some people never give this band a chance. They’re awfully all over the place. I get fans view this as a feature, not a bug.

I’ve warmed up to them a bit - partly through repeated listens of “somebody else” and “love it if we made it”, which are undeniably some of the best pop/rock? songs of the past decade - but the rabid fandom is still unexplainable to me. They have one or two songs every album in which I can almost see it, but then the rest of it loses me.

That said, this album is still all over the place, but was more enjoyable to me on first listens than any other previous ones.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

“If you’re too shy” is my favorite one on first impression. I think I might only like them when they’re doing the 80’s thing.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link

Ok just relistened to that one and that song is IT. The one giving me the urge to replay on loop. Here goes my third play.

Even if the rest of the album was terrible that song alone makes the admission price worth it.

What band’s style does it remind me of? Is it The Cars?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

Me and my brother regularly share records we should listen to. And he is a gay dude who told me about the Carly b side record before I knew about it, so he’s not pop-unfriendly. But I told him today that this is album of the year potential and he was really anti, even compared the band to muse ??? I think a lot of people have people have really bad perceptions of them that I don’t think many people have about things these days, it feels a bit more 90s knee-jerk rockism than most things have, to the point where it’s hard to notice other modern examples

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 23 May 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link

i would like to apologize for any previous negative statements i may have made about “frail state of mind”

J0rdan S., Saturday, 23 May 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link

its painful to me as a punk rock doofus that they are *so* good at rocking out but rarely take the opportunity to for more than 1 or 2 songs per album

i feel like between this album and the last one they have like, 10 songs in the vein of “Jesus Christ 2005”, but only pull out the gnarly post punk chops like 3 times max

flopson, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:06 (three years ago) link

they dont have that many acoustic songs and none of them were as good as the ones on this album

ufo, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:08 (three years ago) link

The rocking song is so much of a McLusky/Future of the Left ripoff it kind of irritates me

This album is good, just skip the first three tracks and I don't find it "challenging" at all

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

I like the acoustic songs too i just want an album worth and not just “lol what if the first song on every album after the intro we were the worlds best post punk band but only for that song”. i want them to up the ratio, like to get equal to the ratio of garage songs or instrumentals

flopson, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

The rocking song is so much of a McLusky/Future of the Left ripoff it kind of irritates me

i don’t think it’s that much of a ripoff (mb i listen to too many bands that sound like that that wasn’t even the first reference) but it’s better than anything they’ve done in at least a decade imho

flopson, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link

The rocking song is so much of a McLusky/Future of the Left ripoff it kind of irritates me

This album is good, just skip the first three tracks and I don't find it "challenging" at all

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 24 May 2020 01:12 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

People = https://youtu.be/CvICqhQzExI

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

the shoegaze moment of 'then because she goes' is also stunning as rock-outs go

imago, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

Re: sequencing, I find 80 minute albums are too long to digest as albums, and I don't often listen to them in one sitting. So the sequencing here doesn't really bother me. "The End" is the only song that has stuck out to me for taking the energy immediately back down after "People"

Vinnie, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:25 (three years ago) link

i would like to apologize for any previous negative statements i may have made about “frail state of mind”

― J0rdan S., Saturday, May 23, 2020 7:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

same here but for “people”

k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:40 (three years ago) link

*polishes “i have always been correct about ‘people’ by the 1975” trophy*

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:41 (three years ago) link

I can't imagine listening to most of this often but it's definitely impressive, they're reaaaally good stylistic mimics. I love pretty much all of the UK garage-y tracks.

'What Should I Say' feels like it was written right after hearing Kanye's 'Fade'.

'Me & You Together Song' is both fascinating & repellent as a pastiche (of what exactly, Oasis and certain '90s corporate alt-pop?), with that over-swung rhythm feel that's really gross.

― change display name (Jordan), Friday, May 22, 2020 3:56 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

great post, I’ve been thinking about “fascinating and repellent pastiche” since last night and I think it’s a compelling critique of them as a band, and also what makes them both so rousing and so polarizing: the shamelessness with which they try so many different looks, how convincingly they pull most of it off, how excruciatingly sincere they are when so many other bands would coat their ambition with irony...band of the decade

k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link

brad you are always right you don’t have to rub it in

k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:50 (three years ago) link

At Target yesterday I bought this thing on CD b/c why not

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:53 (three years ago) link

*jumps threads and listens to "having no head" once* when are the 1975 going to collab w/ underworld and also the necks

lowercase (eric), Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:09 (three years ago) link

cldn't tell how much i think the album flows or not b/c felt like i was in a dream state the whole time

lowercase (eric), Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:10 (three years ago) link

The way the drums run up against the guitar ripples in "Me & You Together Song" reminds me of Third Eye Blind, actually.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

yeah there is a lot of sleazy 90s tics on this record that they do SO well, I thought of 3eb too

k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link

xxxp i hope theres breakbeats on the next album

ufo, Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link

I think there's some very specific phrasings in People that are very much Andrew Falkous from McClusky/FotL

anyway enjoying the album for the most part, will withhold any minor critiques in deference to the Grateful Dead/Jehovah's Witness/Pink Floyd Rules tenor of the thread

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

At Target yesterday I bought this thing on CD b/c why not

Is it on two discs or is it trimmed in some way?

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

one disc

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

given the insane tech advances since the 90s you'd think they'd have found a way to add 30 seconds to a maximum CD runtime

imago, Sunday, 24 May 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link

apparently they did!

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Sunday, 24 May 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

I know this is too early, but a possible top.

the birthday party
me & you together song
if you're too shy (let me know)
bagsy not in net
what should I say
roadkill
then because she goes
shiny collarbone
yeah I know
jesus christ 2005 god bless america
frail state of mind
I think there's something you should know
guys
having no head
tonight (I wish I was your boy)
nothing revealed / everything denied
playing on my mind
don't worry
the end (music for cars)
streaming
people
the 1975

I already regret this.

Nourry, Sunday, 24 May 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

I love this album

Tim F, Monday, 25 May 2020 11:00 (three years ago) link

so great to have you on board tim ;)

imago, Monday, 25 May 2020 11:14 (three years ago) link

It’s a surprise to all of us

Tim F, Monday, 25 May 2020 11:18 (three years ago) link

do you wanna leave at
the same time

do you wanna leave at
the same time

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 25 May 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link

I love this album

― Tim F, Monday, May 25, 2020 7:00 AM (two hours ago)

youuuuuuu
I've been waiting for youuuuuuuu

k3vin k., Monday, 25 May 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link

"Then Because She Goes" is a perfect example of the kind of song that should be held back until it's done.

Lovely ideas there, but it sounds like half a song that needs more time in the oven. Keep working on it and let it be a standout on LP5 or LP6 rather than a blip on this one.

IMO, of course.

alpine static, Monday, 25 May 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

the ephemerality/liminality is really evocative to me and honestly i don't want to hear a longer version at all

"what should i say" is the one i agree might be "lacking something" but *jehovah's witness vox* maybe that'll end up feeling the-most-suitable

lowercase (eric), Monday, 25 May 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link

yeah its brevity is a feature not a bug. lots of other tracks feel considerably less developed

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 25 May 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

this album is such a goddamn triumph. i keep trying to take time away from it and then falling back into it.
reading incensed Metacritic user reviews has also been enjoyable.

ripersnifle, Monday, 25 May 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

ok what is "roadkill" cribbing from melodically, i swear it's like a lyle lovett song or something

the midtempo flounce 1-2 of nothing revealed (which has the same chords as a no rome song) and tonight somehow is what is truly destroying my defenses tho. every topline feels effortless. that rap is borderline inexcusable, and yet ...

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 25 May 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

“nothing revealed” is the one that lays it on a little thick even for me

k3vin k., Monday, 25 May 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

idk, it such a crucial part of the record. this is where i don't get the sequencing beefs. the sounds do jump around early in the record but "nothing revealed" and "tonight" being sandwiched in between "i think there's something you should know" and "shiny collarbone" is so effective. it's like you briefly slip into a sunnier dimension before being spit back out into the greyscale claustrophobia (london) that most of this album is riffing on

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 May 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

“Me & you together song” sounds like Third Eye Blind/Everclear

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 25 May 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

indeed

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 May 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link

when it came out someone in here (i forget who) compared it to ride + third eye blind, which was the final word on the matter

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 May 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link

matty is a huge fan of "vapour trail" so it's probably intentional

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 May 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link

“Me & you together song” strays too much from the formula of sounding like every other Everclear song, to actually sound like Everclear.

MarkoP, Monday, 25 May 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link

decided the new one is the mid-point of "vapour trail" and "semi-charmed life"

― ufo, Friday, January 17, 2020 3:03 AM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 25 May 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

there was a recent interview where matty said "vapour trail" was their main reference point for it and said the "late 90s american teen movie soundtrack" sound was unintentional but he gets why people are making that comparison

ufo, Monday, 25 May 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link

it's a perfect song

k3vin k., Monday, 25 May 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

nice to hear them get back to the their 3EB roots

Spottie, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 04:57 (three years ago) link

"Me and You Together Song" is not only super-charming musically but I feel is yet another perfect and typical (in a good sense) example of Matt at his storytelling best: the use of embedded back-and-forth conversation quotes (I didn't realise until I searched the lyrics that the "I'm sorry that I'm kinda queer..." and the "oh it's okay, lots of people think I'm gay..." couplets are not sung from the same perspective), the"i'm lying to myself and you about what's really going on, but I can't help but reveal the truth before this song finishes" structure, the post-ironic "i deliberately puncture the romanticism at every turn but that just makes my romanticism seem stronger" touches ("we went to Winter Wonderland, and it was shit but we were happy").

Matt's ultimate lyrical "character" (basically: I'm ridiculous, and I openly acknowledge that, but that doesn't prevent me from being ridiculous or even ameliorate it much, because self-awareness doesn't matter if you can't change your behaviour) would probably ring pretty hollow if he didn't constantly and quite literally situate the "you" in the song and frequently arm them with better arguments than he gets (e.g. the argument about whose fear of going to the toilet in the presence of others is more ridiculous in "The Birthday Party"). The "easter egg" component of his lyric-writing is pretty much entirely based around where the quote marks go and which lines are attributed to whom, but I'm not sure I can think of a songwriter off-hand who has made that particular brand of transparent-mystery their central modus operandi?

Tim F, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 05:44 (three years ago) link

Three listens in and I'm still pretty shocked how consistent this 22-track album is. I've never been a big fan of their acoustic songs but "Jesus Christ" and "Playing on My Mind" are both great. Everything is great. This band is great

Vinnie, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 09:16 (three years ago) link

“we went to winter wonderland and it was shit but we were happy” is increasingly feeling like one of the most romantic lyrics i can remember

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

lmao winter wonderland is literally the worst thing in london (not been but have gawped at + heard stories)...so maybe it really is that romantic

imago, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

I'm loving the new album but I got completely waylaid by 'So Far (It's Alright)' today. Such a banger. I probably listened to it 50 times.

cajunsunday, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

(I didn't realise until I searched the lyrics that the "I'm sorry that I'm kinda queer..." and the "oh it's okay, lots of people think I'm gay..." couplets are not sung from the same perspective),

yeah otm -- I only noticed it this weekend after headphone listening. The tumult of the arrangement mirrors the intensifying attraction.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

Winter Wonderland is crap, I can confirm. I’ve had the misfortune of going twice. Both times it pissed it down.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link

Haven't been on ilm in a while so sorry if this has been commented on elsewhere, but this album's sonics remind me so much of Trashcan Sinatras's wonderful 2004 album Weightlifting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI1SSJAy1XI

Indexed, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

i know i've said it before but i LOVE this album

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link

The 1975 released a good album imo

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link

two good albums!

(not four)

(it's okay if you think it's four)

imago, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link

three great ones, one good one imo

4 > 2=1 > 3

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 May 2020 23:45 (three years ago) link

it's like ranking my children

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link

much as they seemingly need at least 17 tracks to really make it work, am v excited for their promised 6/7-track spirit of eden/hats effort

imago, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link

solomon decreed that the album should be split in two; and that is how he was able to work out who the real 1975 fan was

imago, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link

otm

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link

HAS HE GOT ENOUGH WEED NO BROKEN PHONE RETCHING ON THE FLOOR ALONE

― uberweiss, Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:25 PM (six years ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 23:53 (three years ago) link

we take your mum's car to the edge of the town
and we drive
yeah we go round & round

― uberweiss, Friday, October 10, 2014 2:21 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

probably the most important lyric of the last twenty years

― Tim F, Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:31 PM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh wow, otm

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link

iliwys > noacf > abiior > s/t

ufo, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link

oh put "the EPs" above s/t

ufo, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 00:18 (three years ago) link

*listens*

*o christ don't start rapping*

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 00:49 (three years ago) link

I never listen to the first EP, but if Sex through IV was considered an album it would probably be my favourite just because probably no music in the past decade has had such a massive impact on me as those EPs did in 2013.

Then I tend to think ILIWYS and NOACF are probably tied for top position and the debut is marginally ahead of ABIIOR.

Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link

It's also definitely the case that some of the stuff on Notes recalls a lot of the more amorphous but still vocal-based material from those EPs ("Anobrain", "Haunt // Bed", "Head. Cars. Bending", "Me", "Falling For You") more than pretty much anything they have done in the interim. "I Think There's Something You Should Know" "What Should I Say", "Bagsy Not In Net"... To be reductionist, the re-emergence of early Junior Boys as one of the strongest implied reference points. Also the way that Matt's voice is buried or at least sits so far back in the mix in so many of these songs (on "Bagsy Not In Net": I'm also strongly reminded of Basement Jaxx's "If I Ever Recover").

It reminds me that one of the first critical frames I came up with for the band when I was first listening to the EPs was that their influences were almost exclusively 90s and that they were one of the first popular syncretist bands not really drawing on the 1980s as a stylistic signifier - which of course became a laughable proposition in light of the sound of the first and then second actual albums. But "If You're Too Shy" aside, this album has barely any moments that strongly code as referencing the eighties.

Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 04:39 (three years ago) link

yeah Notes is the most inward-sounding they've been since the EPs. i'm really glad they've sorta come full circle and returned to that sort of vibe more, especially after ABIIOR was so big-sounding. there was a recent interview where Matty says he doesn't really expect they'll do any more of their 80s pop tracks like "If You're Too Shy" anytime soon, which i'd be fine with since they've given us plenty of fantastic ones and i'm excited for them to mine newer territory.

i wouldn't really say the EPs weren't really drawing on the 80s though, the sophisti- synth ballads like "Me" and "fallingforyou" are pretty 80s. it's still funny that they'd never heard The Blue Nile when they made those though.

ufo, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 04:53 (three years ago) link

Haha yeah that's the part that made me say "almost" exclusively - though even with "Me" and "fallingforyou" it was a bit like they were drawing (consciously or otherwise) on an art-pop continuum (all the Avalon / David Sylvian / The Blue Nile vibes) that ran pretty unbroken through the 80s and 90s and beyond rather than on a sound we specifically associate with the 80s - that John Hughes / Cars sound that emerged strongly on the album.

Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 05:53 (three years ago) link

So, a couple of listens in, and I can only conclude this is the best 1975 album. It's better than ILIWYS, which I really rate highly. I'm not sure I get the sequencing remarks: they went all out, with a range of styles even broader than before. It's intended to be all over the place, to sometimes have 'opposing' songs back to back. I'm a fan.

much as they seemingly need at least 17 tracks to really make it work, am v excited for their promised 6/7-track spirit of eden/hats effort

― imago, Wednesday, May 27, 2020 1:47 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Don't jinx it man!

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 07:55 (three years ago) link

I think the sequencing issue is really only an issue for the first 5 tracks of Greta - punk - instrumental - wispy garage-ballad - instrumental. After that it seems no more nor less schizoid in sequencing than the previous two albums to me.

Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:11 (three years ago) link

Can we also be really real about how amazing the production quality on "shiny collarbone" and "having no head" is?

Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:32 (three years ago) link

"What Should I Say" with that descending piano motif as well.

Some of this album is kinda like "what if I felt a certain way about jamie xx???"

Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link

I think the sequencing issue is really only an issue for the first 5 tracks of Greta - punk - instrumental - wispy garage-ballad - instrumental. After that it seems no more nor less schizoid in sequencing than the previous two albums to me.

― Tim F, Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:11 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I agree. I think it's a brave and bold choice to have Greta on their signature first track, but I'll be honest and think I'll probably start the album w/ People more often than not.

Some of this album is kinda like "what if I felt a certain way about jamie xx???"

Haha otm

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:37 (three years ago) link

the sequencing doesn't bug me as much now that i'm used to it but the initial stretch up until "jesus christ 2005" is still awkward, especially that very slow opening section tim mentioned. "shiny collarbone" into "if you're too shy" also doesn't work very well at all.

i agree their production gets better and better with every record. it's wild to compare some of the more electronic tracks on the EPs to this record because of how far they've come

ufo, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:47 (three years ago) link

i like that the first few songs act as an uneasy progression into reflexive interiorization

the intro to "if you're too shy" coming out of nothing adjacent does really jar, yeah, even tho the sense of sublimated drift when the band comes in makes it ultimately worth that section

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:56 (three years ago) link

i keep marveling at the vocal production throughout in particular

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link

I'VE BEEN (wearing nothing every time I) CALL YOU (and I'm starting to feel weird about it)

Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 10:03 (three years ago) link

4 > 2 > 1 > 3

v close btwn 4 and 2 but NOACF has more tracks yet fewer that I'd class as "not life-changingly amazing" ('don't worry' vs 'love me', 'loving someone', 'she lays down')

actually mad that they've outdone one of my absolute favourite albums ever jeez

also I fully enjoy the sequencing of the opening tracks - so dramatic and cinematic!

uberweiss, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 12:06 (three years ago) link

yeah I am completely down with how this album gets going, it’s as the end approaches that I feel the dissonance

k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 May 2020 12:08 (three years ago) link

yeah I meant more that it's only the opening stretch that feels unusual for them - their previous albums all have a clutch of big singles in at least relatively short succession after the opening eponymous track.

Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 12:13 (three years ago) link

I love the greta song, just a random observation

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link

I prob said this before but it makes me think of Dune like it’s a diary entry from the princess irulan

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 12:50 (three years ago) link

this album is really, really addictive. not sure if i like it as much as the second album but man what a fucking band.

Bee OK, Thursday, 28 May 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link

one thing I hate about this band is that their songs are so hard to stack up against one another. is “yeah I know” the best song they’ve ever written? or is it “me and you together song”? whomst can say

k3vin k., Thursday, 28 May 2020 01:41 (three years ago) link

what a preposterous fucking album, man. you go and get stoned on your day off, forget some of the tracks at the end until they pop up and you're all "ok, you're gonna go and hit me with a 'tonight' AFTER you've ALREADY given me "roadkill" and "the birthday party"??? and then "if you're too shy" is still to come. embarrassment of riches

k3vin k., Thursday, 28 May 2020 02:10 (three years ago) link

look who's cancelled now!!!!!!!

imago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

real talk: everyone get off fucking twitter

imago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

actually fuck it, let's just keep talking about the album lol. it's really good!

imago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link

lmao that is extreme nonsense

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

we should cancel all writers who have linked to their past work during the current situation

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

what actually "happened"

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

he said "#blacklivesmatter" and linked the video for "love it if we made it" and apparently got such blowback he deleted his twitter

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link

lmao

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link

doofus move, total overreaction, sounds about right.

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

hahahahaha

k3vin k., Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link

matty = perpetual 22 year old who has somehow forgotten that he’s now in his 30’s lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 May 2020 05:59 (three years ago) link

i have burning desire to hear "tonight (i wish i was your boy)" chopped & screwed with some houston legend like say big moe (rip) riffing over it

tpp, Friday, 29 May 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

Having No Head bangs like The Social Network soundtrack and you know it

anza808, Friday, 29 May 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link

you could make a killer EP out of just the uk garage tracks

k3vin k., Saturday, 30 May 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4iOeCPv96w

the new no rome track, produced by george, is great

ufo, Saturday, 30 May 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link

why are we not talking more about this amazing record

k3vin k., Saturday, 30 May 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link

Nappieeeeees

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 31 May 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link

happyyyyyyy

J. Sam, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

today 'I Think There's Something You Should Know' is the best song ever.
channeling some 'Menswear' vibes.

Nourry, Monday, 1 June 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

you guys are the best thing that ever happened to me

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 June 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

closest reference point i've come up with yet for the kitchen-sink eclecticism of this album is super furry animals' guerilla

ufo, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link

first three songs in sequence today have me weepy

Joey Corona (Euler), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

i feel like the exuberant stylistic promiscuity fits pretty tidily into their agonies and ecstasies of late capitalism thematic

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

and i seen the girls and they were all like
"do you wanna come and get fucked up?"
listen
i got myself a missus, says there can't be any kissing
"no, don't be a fridge, you better wise up, kid
it’s all adderall now, it doesn't make you wanna do it"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

lyrically “the birthday party” is like the entire cosmos of the 1975 mapped out in a single song

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

also my replacement copy of the record arrived today and it is an awesome radioactive sickly yellow-green color and i’m
listening to it now and it sure sounds like the best album ever

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

“then because she goes” is like... a portal opens to a universe where every genre of guitar music i love is enfolded into one shimmer

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

really amazing how the bridge in “roadkill” turns this half-smirk of a song into the most beautiful and romantic thing

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link

the division of the album into four sides is really satisfying

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:36 (three years ago) link

really amazing how the bridge in “roadkill” turns this half-smirk of a song into the most beautiful and romantic thing


It’s like they’re vamping on a pinegrove song in the verses

Heez, Monday, 15 June 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link

still not really into this one but I think I know better why at least. oh well!

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link

lyrically “the birthday party” is like the entire cosmos of the 1975 mapped out in a single song

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson)

'the birthday party' is becoming more and more one of their best songs, for sure.

Nourry, Monday, 15 June 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

so, matty is spending quarantine working on new music and writing for a new album.

Josh (phantompenguin), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link

sure it’ll be out this december 2022

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

they've been making videos for every song on the record by outsourcing them to different digital artists. some are really uncanny and creepy and some are incredibly awesome. my favorite so far is "shiny collarbone"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXj4XcZBwK4

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 13 July 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

Wau THAT is the 1975? I'd never have guessed.

piscesx, Monday, 13 July 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

everything is the 1975

k3vin k., Tuesday, 14 July 2020 02:25 (three years ago) link

I think my favourite for now is the video created for 'then because she goes'.
my goal after this is to hear/watch the album as whole with these new images. because they always keep on giving.

https://youtu.be/CcoFDAujHgo

Nourry, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

the whole thing has been playing on my mind

J0rdan S., Monday, 10 August 2020 03:00 (three years ago) link

Why? You didn’t pay your electric bill or something?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 10 August 2020 04:49 (three years ago) link

the newest Song Exploder is about "The Birthday Party", time for more once-a-year listen to that podcast

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 15 August 2020 02:49 (three years ago) link

*my, goddammit

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 15 August 2020 02:50 (three years ago) link

The Birthday party is probably top 5 of their best songs and one day the world will acknowledge it.

Nourry, Saturday, 15 August 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

birthday party, me & you together song, if you're too shy are three of their best singles... also three of the best singles of this year

J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 August 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

damn, hoping i misunderstood the timeline but did he say he relapsed after rehab in that podcast? has he been in rehab more than once? only knew of the equine thing and sounded like he kicked it :(

anza808, Sunday, 16 August 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

yeah, it seems he relapsed meanwhile... I really hope he's better.

Nourry, Sunday, 16 August 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

i think there's something you should know
i don't feel like myself, i'm not gonna lie
how would you know? it doesn't show
i think there's something you should know

what a succinct way of describing the experience of anxiety

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 August 2020 01:38 (three years ago) link

the transition from tightly coiled song about anxiety and displacement into the wide open, warm, choral salvation of "nothing revealed" is really effective. the whole middle section is really the key to this record.... the only way you could find the transitions abrupt is if you think about the songs' relationship to each other strictly in terms of genre. the emotional thread connects. "if i was your boy" channels the search for salvation into a fleeting encounter, "shiny collarbone" shatters the scene & then the narrator finds himself running back to whatever hotel or motel he can find in order to pour all the tumult into his fav camgirl. even "playing on my mind" after... "i won't get clothes online cause i get worried about the fit / but that rule doesn't apply concerning relationships"... he can't shake it. anyway i find the POV of this record very coherent and can't really listen to it w/o playing the full thing, which i do all the time.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 August 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

i think that "i think there's something you should know" might be the best song they've ever done

ufo, Thursday, 20 August 2020 10:39 (three years ago) link

super agree re: middle section! i think it's true across their albums that the run of tracks preceding the late-album banger single (too shy, the sound, it's not living) is some of the most sonically adventurous material and often contains a thematic/emotional hinge point of the record

caulk the wagon and float it, Thursday, 20 August 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

i think there's something -> if you're too shy is the section of this album i've listened to the most

caulk the wagon and float it, Thursday, 20 August 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

it's a structure they've used at both their shows i've been to also

caulk the wagon and float it, Thursday, 20 August 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

for sure.... i think that's the main difference between records 2/4 and 3. the section bracketed by "she's american" and "the sound" on i like it when you sleep is really really strong, whereas i'd say the section bracketed by "love it if we made it" and "it's not living" on brief inquiry is the only skippable part of their discography

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 August 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

not skippable in full mind you, but i'm usually passing on "i like america" and the robot song... "be my mistake", "inside your mind" & "heads and bodies" all kinda blur together for me etc

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 August 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link

i agree

caulk the wagon and float it, Thursday, 20 August 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

i think the genre switching plays a sort of loss-of-innocence narrative supporting role, with the dubsteppy things being the now, the acoustic numbers this sort of 'lost past' arcadian pastoral yearning, the college rock stuff sort of evocative of more recent'lost youth', contrasting with the grey present, the country-ish stuff sort of the adult-weariness flipside of the claustrophobic intensity of the electronic numbers

it has a sort of what to do after the end of history vibe as they desperately cycle through the cultural toolbox to try to solve the problem of our selfish modern existence and ultimately come up short in the face of atomization and pending eco collapse

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Thursday, 20 August 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

i like ur take but i don’t think they come up short! i feel like bagsy is the point of greatest uncertainty/abstraction/disintegration but then it ends with a beautiful duet with his father abt the protection of enduring love. and encores with a love song abt his best friends. to me it’s a very convincingly optimistic ending abt how our basic humanity can shepherd us thru the disintegration!

caulk the wagon and float it, Friday, 21 August 2020 00:59 (three years ago) link

i meant coming up short on a political world historical social-collective level; like as a species we are at a cultural dead end and just have to cling to the glimmers of warmth we can snatch out of the grey churn. its a beautiful album tho

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Friday, 21 August 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link

i don't know a ton about electronic-ish music. a handful of records have grabbed my ears over the years ...

anyway, if i love SHINY COLLARBONE and would like to hear more stuff like that, do any of you have suggestions?

alpine static, Monday, 31 August 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

the transition from tightly coiled song about anxiety and displacement into the wide open, warm, choral salvation of "nothing revealed" is really effective. the whole middle section is really the key to this record.... the only way you could find the transitions abrupt is if you think about the songs' relationship to each other strictly in terms of genre. the emotional thread connects. "if i was your boy" channels the search for salvation into a fleeting encounter, "shiny collarbone" shatters the scene & then the narrator finds himself running back to whatever hotel or motel he can find in order to pour all the tumult into his fav camgirl. even "playing on my mind" after... "i won't get clothes online cause i get worried about the fit / but that rule doesn't apply concerning relationships"... he can't shake it. anyway i find the POV of this record very coherent and can't really listen to it w/o playing the full thing, which i do all the time.

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 19, 2020 9:58 PM (three weeks ago)

this is sooo otm. head and shoulders their best record imo

k3vin k., Friday, 11 September 2020 23:22 (three years ago) link

you're nuts for skipping "i like america and america likes me" tho

k3vin k., Friday, 11 September 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

Interesting that you two can find a throughline in this album. I guess I have a hard time when it's based on the lyrical content. But really, I don't care when the quality of music is so high. I think it's tied with the debut for my favorite album of theirs now

Vinnie, Saturday, 12 September 2020 04:15 (three years ago) link

I've been surprised how many times I've played the whole album front to back. For such a long sprawling album it's surprisingly easy to listen to. Conversely I found their second longest album (I Like It When You Sleep) hard to listen to in one sitting

Vinnie, Saturday, 12 September 2020 04:19 (three years ago) link

yeah I feel like I’ve said this already itt but 4>1>2>3 for me

k3vin k., Saturday, 12 September 2020 04:26 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

soil just needs water to be
and a seed

überweiss, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

it's the best album of all time!

überweiss, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

indeed

Nourry, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link

I'm bummed that I never got a chance to see them tour behind this album, and with Phoebe Bridgers opening, it would have been QUITE THE SHOW

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 03:34 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-euyQ0XdpSk

somehow missed this from several months ago. it's great

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 December 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

My daughter has gotten really into Harry Styles, and every time she plays his stuff (which is fine) I wish she was playing the 1975 instead. I think she's aware of them, but is for some reason just a little out of phase.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 December 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Has Matty Healy and Christopher Abbott of Girls and more recently Possessor ever been in the same room

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 06:37 (three years ago) link

fp’d you for that

abbott is like a Hallmark Channel version of Matty

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 06:41 (three years ago) link

Saw HBO’s The Undoing and the child actor, Noah Jupe kept reminding me of Matt Healy.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 07:51 (three years ago) link

Matty*

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 07:52 (three years ago) link

same!

k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 December 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/zGivC3n0id

— The 1975 (@the1975) January 12, 2021

Look, the point is that a new album is in the works

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 12:14 (three years ago) link

"Shy" was playing in a dream I had last night, so I guess I am thoroughly 1975-pilled.

Pere Legume (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link

ONE
OF
US

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 00:47 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

ohhhhhh shit

ok some news - me, (the creator of music) charli xcx & the 1975 have a song together. . got the masters done and waiting on video edit cuts . coming out sooner than u think ok thats all for now i love u

— rome (@no_rome) February 8, 2021

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 8 February 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link

Ugh

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 01:38 (three years ago) link

why so dismissive, deej

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 01:48 (three years ago) link

UGH

calstars, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 00:59 (three years ago) link

I DONT HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR FUCKING YOURE MEANT TO BE HEL PING ME

😃

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 01:06 (three years ago) link

Something like that

calstars, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 01:14 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

oh man the new beabadoobee song produced by matty & george is so good

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 March 2021 18:34 (three years ago) link

i'm laughing uproariously over how good this

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 March 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link

Eh, I'm all for songs with two chords, but this was ... ok. I kept thinking of that Primitive Radio Gods song (if they were on some British indie label in the early '90s).

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 21:38 (three years ago) link

I fuck with it, never heard of this artist b4 tho

k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 March 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link

enjoyable. did she cowrite with them, too? kinda sounds like it.

alpine static, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:06 (three years ago) link

I was expecting to feel a bit of reactionary jealousy since label-mates Wolf Alice just released the similarly-titled Last Man on Earth, which I've been listening to almost daily. But I enjoyed this, and definitely hits that early 90s sweet spot for me.

peace, man, Thursday, 25 March 2021 10:27 (three years ago) link

that riff just isn't quite good enough to carry the entire song

ufo, Thursday, 25 March 2021 11:00 (three years ago) link

that riff just isn't quite good enough to carry the entire song

― ufo

It worked well enough for U2 and The Cranberries.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 25 March 2021 20:09 (three years ago) link

I am truly not the person this music was made for.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Friday, 26 March 2021 22:51 (three years ago) link

Beabadoobie's song "Worth It" is just damn delightful. Another artist on Dirty Hit that ILX would love is AMA, who has a rhythmic brilliance. Check out her 3 EPs, especially this year's "Vs Everything". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpY7aMPh0no

two months pass...

I just got "Matty Healy" on Tinder and I find it v funny bc of "If You're Too Shy"

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 6 June 2021 01:42 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

uhh yeah dude

calstars, Monday, 21 June 2021 01:16 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

matty co prod & co wrote the new holly humberstone single

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REBtE9OcJyI

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 August 2021 19:25 (two years ago) link

oh that's really good

ufo, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 22:30 (two years ago) link

oh god this is heartstoppingly good

überweiss, Thursday, 5 August 2021 09:16 (two years ago) link

matty & george also did every song on the latest beabadoobee EP and it's all fabulous. especially love "animal noises"

"animal noises"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StGAF6PWtYg

"he gets me so high"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpZdLhpZ_0M

"cologne"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aalRn01lMmg

überweiss, Thursday, 5 August 2021 09:26 (two years ago) link

yeah the beabadoobie stuff is good

I listened to “notes on a conditional form” for the first time in probably 6 months last night and man, that thing holds up. their best record I think

k3vin k., Thursday, 5 August 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link

co-signing all the posts in this latest revival

Tim F, Thursday, 5 August 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

beabadoobee "last day on earth" is still one of my fav songs of the year and is 100% considered part of the NOACF extended universe to me. it's almost like a bonus track

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 August 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link

"animal noises" is def "the birthday party"-core. i think "he gets me so high" is my other favorite tho, that phrase w/ those jangly guitars it's almost like a pressing a cheat code

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 August 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link

yes 100% to all that

my brother recommended PRONOUN yesterday in this vein, gonna give that a listen in a minute

k3vin k., Thursday, 5 August 2021 22:08 (two years ago) link

lemme tell you, pronoun is so good

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 August 2021 22:26 (two years ago) link

yeah this fuckin rules

k3vin k., Thursday, 5 August 2021 22:30 (two years ago) link

Cologne was my fav off that one

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 5 August 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link

that Holly Humberstone track did nothing for me yesterday but on the second listen now it just hit so different wow

bon ivermectin (Murgatroid), Friday, 6 August 2021 00:09 (two years ago) link

Looooove Pronoun

Tim F, Saturday, 7 August 2021 10:20 (two years ago) link

the holly humberstone track reminds me a lot of the last two bon iver albums

ufo, Saturday, 7 August 2021 10:27 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

yesssss ready for them to temporarily deactivate their social media accounts again

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTPIJZcIs_X/?utm_medium=copy_link

bon ivermectin (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link

he's been posting from the studio a bit lately ^_^

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 August 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

still blown away by how good the last album is… i almost can’t fathom making a better record because, like, how

J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:11 (two years ago) link

i realized while listening to it that they never toured it & i really have to see a show where they play that record

J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link

i meant that i can’t fathom *them* making a better record, but what i typed is also fine

J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:13 (two years ago) link

I was supposed to see them w/ Phoebe Bridgers and bebodobodboeee last yr, woulda been my third time seeing them :(

Murgatroid, Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:18 (two years ago) link

same :(

lol at the idea of phoebe bridgers opening for the 1975 in 2021

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:19 (two years ago) link

maybe they can co-headline in 2022!!!

Murgatroid, Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:26 (two years ago) link

still blown away by how good the last album is… i almost can’t fathom making a better record because, like, how

― J0rdan S., Saturday, October 16, 2021 10:11 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I forgot about it for a while and put it on a couple months ago and totally agree. their masterpiece

mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:27 (two years ago) link

i’ve seen them tour each album! the brief inquiry tour was so good even tho it’s such a flawed album, the notes shows would’ve been so good

i think the good news is they missed US festival season this year and i kinda can’t imagine them waiting until next summer to go back out on the road

J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:28 (two years ago) link

they seem to be deep into recording their next album so I can see them waiting lol

Murgatroid, Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:32 (two years ago) link

i think they can still do better! i like it when you sleep is more consistent than notes overall & is better sequenced, but notes has higher highs (& lower lows, though nothing i really dislike except "people") & a far more expansive sound. the ideal would be for them to do something as sonically expansive as notes but a little more consistent & with the fantastic sequencing of i like it when you sleep

there'll surely be a new album next year, possibly early since they haven't been able to tour?

ufo, Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link

it's been a long time since they've put out any new music -- not even any one-off covers or singles. it feels out of character for them. anyways, lord knows how the band that wrote "love it if we made it" is gonna be influenced by nearly two years of a global pandemic

josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 17 October 2021 03:46 (two years ago) link

there was "spinning" earlier this year

ufo, Sunday, 17 October 2021 03:47 (two years ago) link

the beabadoobee EP (one of my fav records of the year) they did is ripped straight from the notes cinematic universe… it’s almost an epilogue to the album

J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 October 2021 03:52 (two years ago) link

matty seemed pretty bored of being a political voice or at least self critical of the notion on notes and he has generally been silent the last year and a half, but who knows. they could come out w some insane statement single

J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 October 2021 03:53 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0p8xh4Fbgk

acoustic versions of two new songs here

ufo, Sunday, 24 October 2021 00:24 (two years ago) link

maybe it's how it's an acoustic set but Matty's so.... respectable now

anyway new songs sound great, excited 4 new album

Murgatroid, Sunday, 24 October 2021 00:36 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEP_IpqEEh0

no rome debut album coming out in december, produced by george & bj burton, should have plenty for 1975 fans to enjoy

ufo, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 06:50 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

It was Matty Healy’s sticky earworm of a hook that introduced us to No Rome in 2018. On “Narcissist,” No Rome lays the groundwork, spinning rhymes and stringing together brief reflections on taking acid and alienating himself. Healy’s back-up coos and earnest cry—“I’ve been seeing somebody”—formed a compelling endorsement of this soft-spoken, R&B-influenced Gen Z newcomer. The track, off No Rome’s RIP Indo Hisashi EP, ushered him into the 1975 universe with subtle, polished swagger.

No Rome, born Guendoline Rome Viray Gomez, had been releasing lo-fi tracks on SoundCloud from his hometown of Manila in the Philippines when Healy emailed and invited him to the UK. He signed to Healy’s Dirty Hit label almost immediately; Healy told Zane Lowe that Rome became “a bit of a muse” and that the two shared “parallel” ideas. In 2019, Rome, Healy, and the 1975’s George Daniel drew on that overlapping vision for No Rome’s second EP, the sparkly and brooding Crying in the Pretty Places. This past year, Charli XCX joined the now London-based artist for a one-off single. With his debut LP, It’s All Smiles, No Rome sets out to prove himself as not just a muse or collaborator but a key player in this realm of glossy and emotional left-of-center pop.

Dirty Hit began as a home for the 1975 when no other label wanted them, and it’s grown into a mini pop powerhouse in recent years, signing beabadoobee, Wolf Alice, the Japanese House, and Rina Sawayama. Most of its artists are young, with a shared affinity for slick production, dreamy synths, and the 1990s—a bedroom haze of alt-rock. Excellent albums have come out of the Dirty Hit braintrust, along with some derivative and underwhelming ones. Healy and co. are smart to bet on No Rome and It’s All Smiles gives him a lot to work with: He can croon, sing-rap over a skipping beat, or stretch across an ambient drone. In line with Dirty Hit’s underdog vibe, the album presents an outline for a fresh alternative sound, one that’s undeniably current without relying on major labels or TikTok trends. It’s solid pop with an experimental slant.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/no-rome-its-all-smiles/

Indexed, Thursday, 9 December 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

Listening now. Along with the beabadoobee EP, these really do seem like extensions of The 1975 in sound and style more so than the other artists on Dirty Hit.

Indexed, Thursday, 9 December 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link

Way too many of these songs sound like full-on 1975 copycats. "I Want U" and "A Place Where Nobody Knows" are pretty good despite being very on the nose.

Indexed, Thursday, 9 December 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

you make a little hobby out of going to the lobby
to get things that they don't have

uberweiss, Thursday, 16 December 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link

and i said "it's cool" and "i was messing" but it's true
yeah it's you! you're the one that makes me feel right
i've been in love with her for ages
and i can't seem to get it right
i fell in love with her in stages
my! whole! life!

uberweiss, Thursday, 16 December 2021 22:03 (two years ago) link

you get a moment when you feel alright
you get a moment when you feel alright
you get a moment when you feel alright
you get a moment when you feel alright

I FEEL SO SEEN AND I CAN'T DREAM
SLEEPING TERRIFIES ME OTHERWISE I'M FINE
SEE-SAW BACK AND FORTH, BACK ON THE DOOR, BACK ON THE FLOOR
OH PLEASE IGNORE ME I'M JUST FEELING SORRY FOR MYSELF
FEELING LIKE SOMEONE, LIKE SOMEBODY ELSE, WHO DON'T FEEL THEMSELF
PAYING FOR THEIR WEALTH WITH THEIR MENTAL HEALTH
I'D LIKE TO MEET MYSELF AND SWAP CLOTHES
I THINK THERE'S SOME PLACE I SHOULD GO
I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING YOU SHOULD KNOW

whewwwwww

uberweiss, Thursday, 16 December 2021 22:10 (two years ago) link

LIFE
feels like there's SOOOOOMETHING missing
maybe it's YOU

uberweiss, Thursday, 16 December 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link

yeah i mean some of the melodies seem like obvious healy ghostwriting. which ... is not necessarily a bad thing

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Friday, 17 December 2021 00:41 (two years ago) link

the album is decent but fairly slight, he seems capable of something better than this

ufo, Friday, 17 December 2021 00:54 (two years ago) link

that was my thought as well. on a conceptual level i just didn’t really get it at all

J0rdan S., Friday, 17 December 2021 01:51 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

they deleted their social media accounts let’s goooooo

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 13:07 (two years ago) link

:)

auld gang syne (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 19:30 (two years ago) link

if we are to believe 1975 fan accounts, the single and/or album is going to be called "The Problem Attic", which i am begging Matty to call/be about anything else

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link

i mean, that title is deeply on brand but still, please

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 19:34 (two years ago) link

I'm super excited for new 1975, but so over the PR move of completely wiping social media every time a new album is imminent (not that such a move is unique to these guys). It'd be nice to still be able to scroll back through previous updates.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 19:38 (two years ago) link

choosing to believe that's a goof title until proven otherwise

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 19:39 (two years ago) link

it will be incredible

auld gang syne (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 19:40 (two years ago) link

i'm with k3v

so excited for this

alpine static, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 19:59 (two years ago) link

Not everyone's convinced that's the title:

https://www.reddit.com/r/the1975/comments/ssgumy/he_changed_his_bio_the_problem_attic_is_totally/

groovypanda, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 20:00 (two years ago) link

to be fair this band has never had anything even resembling a good album title

ufo, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 22:13 (two years ago) link

if they actually named it that it would be the beginning of their flop era. earlier album titles aren't so basic x cringe as that

xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 23:52 (two years ago) link

are their social media hiatuses usually this long, i thought they're usually only for like 24 hours

Murgatroid, Friday, 18 February 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link

ok you guys can come back now

Murgatroid, Saturday, 26 February 2022 00:32 (two years ago) link

Nothing?

Mark G, Sunday, 27 February 2022 14:02 (two years ago) link

I’ve decided that today is the day that they must release new music

k3vin k., Thursday, 3 March 2022 11:44 (two years ago) link

what if this is their way of announcing their breakup and all that footage of them in the studio is from years ago

Murgatroid, Thursday, 3 March 2022 15:38 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

THEY’RE BACK LFGGGGG

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 11:22 (one year ago) link

took them long enough

ufo, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 11:41 (one year ago) link

oh single isn't until 7 july boooo long build-ups to singles are the worst

i think word is the album is expected in october?

ufo, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 11:48 (one year ago) link

but I want it now

k3vin k., Wednesday, 1 June 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link

my boys <3

Your new album. Your new era. Your old friends.
The 1975https://t.co/Tk3FMU5HLb pic.twitter.com/hY5kCLK2e5

— The 1975 (@the1975) June 1, 2022

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

this is where im at these days

i think that "i think there's something you should know" might be the best song they've ever done

― ufo, Thursday, August 20, 2020 3:39 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Spottie, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

huh

k3vin k., Wednesday, 1 June 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

i listened to NOACF a few times last week and it’s just an astonishing album, bowls me over every single time

the trajectory of critical opinion on them is so weird. mass skepticism and/or ambivalence thru the first two albums that finally flips the other way right as they make their worst and kinda most openly troll-y album (thinking of “love it if we made it,” “tootime,” the robot song). then they’re dropped into “yeah we don’t really care about these guys anymore, been there done that” post-overexposure purgatory — overexposure driven by the same editors writers etc who previously ignored them — right as they make easily one of the best pop albums of the last 10 years

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 June 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

completely agree

k3vin k., Wednesday, 1 June 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link

the critical response to ABIIOR seemed to largely be a belated realisation that actually ILIWYS was worth taking seriously and shouldn't have just been rejected out of hand because the debut made them seem like a shallow obnoxious pop band (not true but i do understand how that was an easy surface-level takeaway) + they were being 'topical' with stuff like "love it if we made it" which helped get more on board

NOACF backlash was fairly understandable since it was such a long, messy and fairly unapproachable album - i love it but even i think the sequencing is a disaster so i can understand why people who only just got on board were put off.

but i'd put ABIIOR above the debut still & wouldn't say it's "troll-y"? idk

ufo, Thursday, 2 June 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

they're teasing that the first single is "being funny in a foreign language"

ufo, Thursday, 2 June 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

What about if you think, "Except for the first album, they've always recorded uneven albums and I wish we lived in an era when greatest hits still sold?"?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 June 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

part of the problem!

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 June 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

I like the (mild) unevenness. It's a feature, not a bug.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 June 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link

I agree.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 June 2022 01:21 (one year ago) link

ILM got them from the start (and they’ve changed less than the general critical line on them would suggest). And they’re a group I will always associate with ILM and my sense of my taste in music and my interactions here being so inextricably intertwined that I can probably never disentangle how much of my experience is this band has been shaped by over two decades of this message board.

Tim F, Thursday, 2 June 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

<3 tim <3

J0rdan S., Friday, 3 June 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

they uploaded all their albums to apple music in dolby atmos (apple's highest quality audio). i had fun bopping around the albums listening to some of the songs, the productions do sound richer

J0rdan S., Friday, 3 June 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

The 1975 - Part Of The Band. 7 Julyhttps://t.co/tmjlHBzB3r pic.twitter.com/5YvJQ6KSgI

— The 1975 (@the1975) June 13, 2022

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 13 June 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

that middle stretch on NOACF, jesus

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

ILM got them from the start (and they’ve changed less than the general critical line on them would suggest). And they’re a group I will always associate with ILM and my sense of my taste in music and my interactions here being so inextricably intertwined that I can probably never disentangle how much of my experience is this band has been shaped by over two decades of this message board.

― Tim F, Thursday, June 2, 2022 3:20 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

i don't spend time on ILM anymore but i still come to this particular thread whenever 1975 drops an album/single/promo biz. i post very infrequently but always come back and read because this board does so thoroughly understand the exact things i love about this band. like, these are literally my exact thoughts on their critical reputation:

the critical response to ABIIOR seemed to largely be a belated realisation that actually ILIWYS was worth taking seriously and shouldn't have just been rejected out of hand because the debut made them seem like a shallow obnoxious pop band (not true but i do understand how that was an easy surface-level takeaway) + they were being 'topical' with stuff like "love it if we made it" which helped get more on board

― ufo, Wednesday, June 1, 2022 8:14 PM (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'm still consistently surprised with how few people i'm around (late 20s - early 40s) have even *heard* of them, even adventurous music listeners / people who listen to a lot of pop music. can't wait to see them in concert again, i hope even when they tour this new album they fill the set with a lot of NOACF stuff. feels like a long shot but i have a fantasy of getting the fuck down with an arena full of people to "Having No Head".

i'm listening to the beabadoobee EP as i write this. bye ~

caulk the wagon and float it, Thursday, 23 June 2022 03:58 (one year ago) link

they're definitely a big cult fanbase act rather than really having much of a mainstream presence and their relationship with the indie rock press etc. has been mixed so it's not that surprising to me

ufo, Thursday, 23 June 2022 04:51 (one year ago) link

To what extent is Dirty Hit to blame for their relative obscurity? Wolf Alice and Rina Sawayama also seem to be underappreciated by the mainstream, though the latter could have her breakout this year.

Indexed, Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

they're not a major label and both wolf alice and especially the 1975 have done very well for themselves given that

ufo, Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

I thought you were saying the 1975 is a big cult act, but I do love the idea of the 1975 as a cult act, because they fill arenas here, which puts them in the rarified company of, what, pre-breakthrough Metallica and the Cure, cult acts (in the US) that filled arenas? That doesn't happen that often, or not so much anymore. It's like the radio or TV/movies or however labels and bands get music out just hasn't figured out what to do with them, or where to put them, but (with some hyperbole) almost everyone that hears them becomes a fan. Think I mentioned bringing my buddy, who is 53, to the last 1975 show. He'd never even heard of them but had a blast and still talks about it.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

xp right - didn't necessarily mean to suggest that Dirty Hit isn't good at PR for their size but just that the decision for these acts to be on an indie label is likely going to limit their exposure on radio, etc.

Indexed, Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

they're on (or were) on Interscope over in North America

Murgatroid, Thursday, 23 June 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link

yeah they’re on interscope in the US. and wolf alice is signed to RCA in the US now.

we intuitively know that contemporary rock bands in general don’t have anywhere near the cultural penetration of pop, rap, and R&B acts so you obv have to take that into account as a huge mitigating factor in parsing out their popularity. glass animals had a no 1 hit this year & i think you’d be hard pressed to find tons of people in america who know who they are.

and then when you break that down even further into which british rock bands haven broken thru in america since 2000 the number is extremely small. the arctic monkeys got pretty big in the US… you could put coldplay in there if you consider them rock (i wouldn’t). franz ferdinand perhaps. but it’s a really small group. if you cut it down to bands that debuted after 2010 the 1975 are the only ones i can think of who have broken thru in the US at all. chvrches might be the other?

they’ve also had a no 1 album, and two other top 5 albums in the US. if you look at the numbers for their singles on the rock charts they’ve actually (quietly) become a pretty consistent force w/in the little niche that is mainstream rock music. they have 7 top 10 hits on the “hot rock songs” chart incl two from the last album

anecdotally speaking i think younger millennials/older gen z are pretty aware of who they are even if they remain a bit divisive

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

what they haven't cracked over here is the funko collector prestige crowd that makes its aesthetic around like ... tyler, lana, frank, these kinds of tasteful "Real Music", doesn't stream as much as you'd think but sells a shitton of vinyl and concert tickets (this is a general tendency of this world doesn't describe literally every act), may no longer even get good reviews but was once a critical darling etc. Basically, the early 20something rejecting his teen tastes crowd does not like them because they are the teen tastes and the poptimist reversal

all the things that make them great to ILM ... like a rock version of diddy dirty money

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

anecdotally speaking i think younger millennials/older gen z are pretty aware of who they are even if they remain a bit divisive

― J0rdan S., Thursday, June 23, 2022 10:39 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Probably right. The crowd at the show I went to was almost uniformly 18-25-year-olds.

Indexed, Thursday, 23 June 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

i've seen them twice and both times i've felt like the chaperone (mind you, that's what it feels like at most bigger shows now) (i'm 35)

Murgatroid, Thursday, 23 June 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

Us oldies felt like aliens at the last show.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 June 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

I like a few of their songs, and find a few a bit too much for my tastes. I can see how their fans/stans could be seen as annoying, but I’m not in that age demographic so I think, let the kids enjoy their music. Most people that I know who know of them feel about the same— tbh I always just hated their name and never gave them a chance until a year or two ago.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 24 June 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link

I am 37, fwiw

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 24 June 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link

Basically, the early 20something rejecting his teen tastes crowd does not like them because they are the teen tastes and the poptimist reversal

all the things that make them great to ILM ... like a rock version of diddy dirty money

― xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, June 23, 2022 1:16 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

:~{

k3vin k., Friday, 24 June 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link

I don’t disagree with any of that I just felt kind of old reading it

k3vin k., Friday, 24 June 2022 01:04 (one year ago) link

I agree with deej

what they haven't cracked over here is the funko collector prestige crowd that makes its aesthetic around like ... tyler, lana, frank, these kinds of tasteful "Real Music", doesn't stream as much as you'd think but sells a shitton of vinyl and concert tickets (this is a general tendency of this world doesn't describe literally every act), may no longer even get good reviews but was once a critical darling etc. Basically, the early 20something rejecting his teen tastes crowd does not like them because they are the teen tastes and the poptimist reversal

all the things that make them great to ILM ... like a rock version of diddy dirty money

― xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:16 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

One attraction of any amorphous category of "real music" is the encoded address from the product to the listener, "I am worthy of being taken seriously, and you demonstrate your worth by doing so" - this is an exchange between product and consumer which is quite separate to traditional ideas of "authenticity" though they can be conflated or blurred at times (which is why Lana Del Rey can be "real music" notwithstanding her highlighting her own artifice, but also why her status as such will always be more contested than say frank ocean).

The 1975 don't project that kind of message at all.

Tim F, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link

I probably addressed this above in part:

To my mind, one difference between Yorke (circa OK Computer) and Healy is that, while Yorke probably would have told people he was full of shit if asked, he always performed/performs the songs very seriously. Matt meanwhile has almost constructed a performative persona around being in on the joke, kind of “don’t believe anything you hear, and least of all this”. It really struck me when I saw a TV show performance of “The Sound” a few years back and Matt sang the song like he was doing a karaoke performance of someone else’s tune, which, conceptually he kind of was? And that is very present at the songwriting level - for example, I cannot think of a band or artist who has written more songs structured as conversations between unreliable narrators.

Considered objectively, this should perhaps make Matt less of a fraud than Thom (though the entire question of “is this fraudulent” is dumb and unhelpful in any event), but I think a lot of people hear Matt’s coded “I am full of shit” messaging and mistake it for something they have worked out for themselves, congratulating themselves for perceiving a kind of fakeness/shallowness to the pseudo-profundity as if that wasn’t precisely the vibe that Matt had been seeking to convey.

― Tim F, Thursday, 20 February 2020 21:36 (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Tim F, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

I agree with that— I think that sometimes that vibe is something I seek in music, and sometimes it isn’t. The ‘artifice’ of “The Sound” in particular is what sold me initially— it felt reflexive rather than smirking.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:22 (one year ago) link

Very well put, 2020 Tim

Vinnie, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:45 (one year ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/CfWqEhTMdWO/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

instant classic incoming?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link

what they haven't cracked over here is the funko collector prestige crowd that makes its aesthetic around like ... tyler, lana, frank, these kinds of tasteful "Real Music", doesn't stream as much as you'd think but sells a shitton of vinyl and concert tickets

mostly agreed here, but they were headlining arenas when they last did a u.s. run in 2019, so they probably sell pretty well.

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

yeah, not calling anyone wrong or right, and obviously there are still levels for this band to obtain, but calling them relatively obscure doesn't really track, i don't think. if they can play basketball arenas in midsized American towns, they're doing pretty good!

alpine static, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

🎵 she was part of the airforce // i was part of the band // i always used to bust into her hand 🎵

k3vin k., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

Don’t be a leaker, Kevin

Tim F, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CfXRQYIs6nP/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

another neo-soul type song?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

these lyrics…. never change matty healy

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 22:33 (one year ago) link

I have a weird feeling that IG snippet is a misdirect

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:30 (one year ago) link

i’ve heard the new music is “pop” but given their nature i ultimately don’t really know what that means

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link

11 tracks!!! being funny in a foreign language!!!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 11:42 (one year ago) link

preposterous album title that fits right in with the last three preposterous albums titles

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 11:44 (one year ago) link

i thought they'd teased that as a song title years ago but i checked and it might have been a working title for "bagsy not in net"?

weird that they're putting out a normal-sized album

ufo, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 12:44 (one year ago) link

I'd be disappointed if the album titles weren't ridiculous.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link

To my mind, one difference between Yorke (circa OK Computer) and Healy is that, while Yorke probably would have told people he was full of shit if asked, he always performed/performs the songs very seriously. Matt meanwhile has almost constructed a performative persona around being in on the joke, kind of “don’t believe anything you hear, and least of all this”. It really struck me when I saw a TV show performance of “The Sound” a few years back and Matt sang the song like he was doing a karaoke performance of someone else’s tune, which, conceptually he kind of was? And that is very present at the songwriting level - for example, I cannot think of a band or artist who has written more songs structured as conversations between unreliable narrators.

Considered objectively, this should perhaps make Matt less of a fraud than Thom (though the entire question of “is this fraudulent” is dumb and unhelpful in any event), but I think a lot of people hear Matt’s coded “I am full of shit” messaging and mistake it for something they have worked out for themselves, congratulating themselves for perceiving a kind of fakeness/shallowness to the pseudo-profundity as if that wasn’t precisely the vibe that Matt had been seeking to convey.

― Tim F, Thursday, 20 February 2020

otm. I'd add: "ILMers hear the irony and distance, the 18-to-25 y/olds I know hear a shambolic goofball having fun."

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 12:48 (one year ago) link

being good at both of those does sum up healy's appeal

ufo, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link

Faintly hoping that one of these songs is like 20 minutes long

J. Sam, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

i have no idea if 11 tracks w/ no experiments/filler (i say filler with love) would be a good thing or a bad thing.

i used to want that from them, but now i feel like 19 tracks w/ filler is part of the charm.

alpine static, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link

yeah unlike everyone else on earth i was looking forward to a double album

just speculation but i hope j0rd is right about the neo-soul vibe he got from the sample

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

i too have come to love the absurd length of their albums but they've always talked about how the first four albums are part of one "era" and i'm excited to see all the ways they might be moving in a new direction, concision included. the track titles seem to imply some greater degree of simplicity/straightforwardness which, along with the concise tracklist, could be part of what they mean by "pop" (a more digestible package, fewer experimental detours)

caulk the wagon and float it, Thursday, 30 June 2022 02:32 (one year ago) link

they've done the wild expansive 80-minute album twice now so i'm fine with them putting out something more focused as a change of pace

ufo, Thursday, 30 June 2022 06:50 (one year ago) link

the debut's songtitles were mostly one word and it was incredibly annoying

imago, Thursday, 30 June 2022 07:53 (one year ago) link

I also would like to see what they do with a tightly focused album, as much as I loved the last one

Vinnie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 10:20 (one year ago) link

what if half of those 11 tracks are long instrumental interludes

Murgatroid, Thursday, 30 June 2022 12:21 (one year ago) link

In a perhaps similar vein, I would be happy with this being their “focused” “pop” album if that means it is their Hats.

Tim F, Thursday, 30 June 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link

In a perhaps similar vein, I would be happy with this being their “focused” “pop” album if that means it is their Hats.

― Tim F

this would be a dream come true.

Nourry, Thursday, 30 June 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

he's occasionally used hats as a reference point for wanting to make a more concise album someday

ufo, Thursday, 30 June 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link

the sophistipop illmatic

xheugy eddy (D-40), Friday, 1 July 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link

album out Oct. 14

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87nG3LuabUs

doesn’t premiere for another 22 hours but posting this here anyway

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9EBhaULToU

22 hours???? but i want it nowwwww

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

i like the song a lot but wow this is deeply perplexing choice for a lead single

Murgatroid, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

it's so indie rock! they went to the pinegrove show

J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

this is deeply perplexing choice for a lead single

― Murgatroid, Thursday, July 7, 2022 1:06 PM (twenty-four seconds ago)bookmarkflaglink

based on "give yourself a try" and "people" it seems like the first one from a new album is always a bit of a fake out now

J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

perplexing not so much in aesthetic but this is clearly such an album track, at least those two you mentioned seemed like singles, y'know?

Murgatroid, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

4:20 blaze it

J. Sam, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

perplexing not so much in aesthetic but this is clearly such an album track, at least those two you mentioned seemed like singles, y'know?


funny you mention. it’s the fourth song on the album so it will prob function that way

J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

i always thought "road kill" sounded like a pinegrove song with a beautiful softrock chorus

Heez, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

listening to Matty on BBC and he said he didn't want it to be too flashy but still be a statement

success

Murgatroid, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

oh lol Jack Antonoff is on the album

Murgatroid, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

it’s gorgeous

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

the strings are v Arthur Russell

Murgatroid, Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

i would not be mad if they made a sufjan stevens album lol

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

the strings made me think of coldplay lol

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

It sounds a bit too much to bon iver, but I'll give it time

Nourry, Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

who is bon iver

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

totally sounds Pinegrove-ish

alpine static, Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

michelle zauner sings back up on the chorus

J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 July 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

antonoff only as good as the ppl he’s working with imo…. thankfully the 1975 are good

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 July 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

what about Bleachers then

Murgatroid, Thursday, 7 July 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

i understand the ease of the pinegrove comparison but to me it's still so clearly a 1975 plastic pop song despite the more "naturalistic" instrumentation. sudden trapdoors in the arrangement, that electronic kick running thru the stringy verse sections, weird found sound bits, processed saxophones. i don't think it's that weird of a choice for a first single, it's very catchy and likable!

caulk the wagon and float it, Thursday, 7 July 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

made me think of When Saints Go Machine "Add Ends"

boxedjoy, Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

I like this.

the strings are v Arthur Russell

True, but my first thought was of Lou Reed's "Street Hassle."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link

what about Bleachers then

― Murgatroid, Thursday, July 7, 2022 1:43 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i don’t understand the question. afaic when he’s working with himself he’s bad

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link

or not bad, rather, there’s just not enough going on in bleachers for it to be a compelling project. if you’re referring to the constant parade of guest vocalists, they’re guest vocalists

but antonoff’s work with crj and taylor swift is roundly excellent, especially with the latter

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link

love the sound (but not the limp falsetto chorus)
love the visuals, as i always do - who runs them for the 1975? matty? a team? they're like everything i wish arcade fire or radiohead could have more consistently invented.

sean gramophone, Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

lol brad, that wasn't a serious q, should have added a "lol" i guess

Murgatroid, Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link

this is great, i like this much more than "give yourself a try" and "people"

very much reminds me of the last two bon iver albums but more grounded

ufo, Thursday, 7 July 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

love the visuals, as i always do - who runs them for the 1975? matty? a team? they're like everything i wish arcade fire or radiohead could have more consistently invented.

― sean gramophone, Thursday, July 7, 2022 5:18 PM (one hour ago)

all their creative from videos to album covers to stage design is done in house. they are true auteurs baby. pretty sure it's matty, george and jamie who manages them/runs dirty hit

J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 July 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

great song, great video. not as much a curveball as I was expecting, based on previous first singles

Vinnie, Thursday, 7 July 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

No way would I say this is better than give yourself a try. It’s cool tho

xheugy eddy (D-40), Friday, 8 July 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

"give yourself a try" is still a little one note to me, it doesn't do anything to flesh out its single idea

ufo, Friday, 8 July 2022 02:30 (one year ago) link

This is very good I think. The strings do remind me a bit of “Viva La Vida”, but relationally the shift from the last album to this (assuming the sound of this song is indicative) reminds me of the shift from Contra to Modern Vampires of the City.

Tim F, Friday, 8 July 2022 02:34 (one year ago) link

who is bon iver

― flamenco drop (BradNelson)

i have the same question

Nourry, Friday, 8 July 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link

ok i love the song now, bring on the rest of the album

Murgatroid, Friday, 8 July 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

tim’s vampire weekend analogy is perfect

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

yeah this is modern vampires as hell. these fuckers have done it again

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 July 2022 00:32 (one year ago) link

it's so much better than anything on mvotc

ufo, Saturday, 9 July 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

(Ya) hey now

Vinnie, Saturday, 9 July 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

Lol if this was like bon iver the lyrics would all be gibberish

Heez, Saturday, 9 July 2022 03:25 (one year ago) link

I'll admit I was underwhelmed on my first listen, but I've gotten pretty obsessed with it over the last 24 hours. Vampire Weekend comparison is perfect.

toby, Saturday, 9 July 2022 05:56 (one year ago) link

what are the chances taylor shows up to do backing vocals somewhere on the album

ufo, Saturday, 9 July 2022 07:43 (one year ago) link

chorus sounds like the og uk the office theme song

anza808, Saturday, 9 July 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

Matty Healy confirmed Cum Town listener

Matty Healy listening to Oliver Houston and cum town made me realize how small the world is and that dudes rock pic.twitter.com/FTaRp7bCOZ

— IVmaj7 (@fourmajor7) July 7, 2022

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 10 July 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link

what is cum town?

alpine static, Sunday, 10 July 2022 05:22 (one year ago) link

Track is great. The opening and chorus remind me of Phoebe Bridgers (that bit of cello at :11 sounds like the "Funeral" intro) while my immediate thought on hearing the syncopated strings was Radiohead's "Burn the Witch." But the verse vocal melody and lyrics ("I know some Vaccinista tote bag chic baristas/ Sittin' east on their communista keisters/ Writin' about their ejaculations" -- geez) are pure Matty Healy, and nobody does it quite like him.

In the final minute and a half they add elements of country and folk rock, and smooth the whole thing out into a lovely acoustic guitar pop song that's far more complex than it sounds--something Justin Vernon isn't always able to do.

Also LOLed at the part in the video where he falls backward, arms flailing, from the weight of the pack.

Indexed, Monday, 11 July 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

revisiting the s/t. they are a better band now that they're more complicated but i still adore this record. all the stuff that would explode open on the later records are like little hints laced within normal pop-rock songs and the slight frisson of that combo is still really pleasurable to hear (cf. the synth drum breakdown of "m.o.n.e.y.," the singles that inch closer to prince than to indie rock, even though "sex" being like the most backlit jimmy eat world song of all time is also part of the total effect). the only (synth-)pop-rock(-r&b) record i can think of that takes place entirely at night

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 13:40 (one year ago) link

they hadn't really learned how to write bridges yet which is the main thing that frustrates me about the debut

& a lot of their stronger material from the time that really demonstrated their breadth was only on the EPs, they very deliberately focused their sound for the album, but there's still like "m.o.n.e.y." and "menswear"

ufo, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 13:52 (one year ago) link

idk i think the eps, rather than demonstrating their breadth, mined a really specific aesthetic they have yet to return to, and on the successive albums they gradually amoebically split into like twenty separate bands that all exist in superposition

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

new track "Happiness" next Wednesday

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

god what an absolute fucking banger

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

the intro worried me for a sec but as soon as the song kicked in oh yeah

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

the song i needed today.

Nourry, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

this is gooooood

k3vin k., Wednesday, 3 August 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

getting boy meets girl vibes?

k3vin k., Wednesday, 3 August 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR1lgEMMJwo

the video is awesome

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

also kind of a return to first album style, which I've been waiting for

k3vin k., Wednesday, 3 August 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

this is my favorite song

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

Not stepping outside their wheelhouse much, but I'm never disappointed by their songs that go back to the first album sound

Vinnie, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

uhh the horn solo reminds me of another song that i can't quite put my finger on

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

oh hell yes

North America tour, 2022
Sign up for ticket pre-sale on Mondayhttps://t.co/cMcfXr5PdO pic.twitter.com/Tg3YZaFsSc

— The 1975 (@the1975) August 3, 2022

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

this song is superb. 1st alb vibes otm

Spottie, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

Interesting that people are comparing it to their 1st album. I'd say it feels more like a mix of a lot of the stuff from their second album: UGH!, The Sound, She's American, etc.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

yep i had the same thought Marko. the rhythm guitar has that real glistening serpentine quality that i associate strongly with i like it when you sleep. needless to say this song kicks ass

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

the synths too are more reminiscent of i like it when you sleep

kinda wish it introduced another idea instead of sticking to the one groove the whole song but it works

ufo, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link

Really surprised there's not a Chicago stop, I'd be tempted to try to see them.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

Healy with fabulous hair

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

matty talked to zane lowe about how they made the song

“Happiness” is like… there’s literally loads of us in the room on that track. Locked eyes…Doesn’t really have much structure. It came through like jamming. And we haven’t done that in like years. So we just wanted this record to be really like a captured moment and not be too constructed and even produced that much…we did it in like a day or so. And it’s us having fun.

interesting to read this bcuz the thing that struck me about this song on subsequent listens is that the lyrics are far more fragmented than the dense, reference heavy, perspective shifting writing we generally associate w/ him. even on some of the more streamlined pop singles he usually sets a scene or places his character somewhere (a party etc). there's nothing like that here. there are no jokes. i wonder if he essentially freestyled this... it's kinda refreshing in a way, economical and a bit mysterious what he's gesturing at beyond the desperation that course thru the song.

also this felt like a real "essence of the band" kinda song & so it makes sense to read that it came out of them jamming. like at their core when left to just come up w/ something w/o it being an intellectual or genre exercise, this is what they do

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link

kinda think almost every lyric in the song can be read two different ways, and that's the joke

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link

I wonder what Healy's idea of modern art is.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

also dj sabrina the teenage dj did production this. iconic.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

I would like to be in a band that sips cool cocktails before jamming with Matt Healy.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link

also dj sabrina the teenage dj did production this. iconic.

someone find healy's rym account

ufo, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

this reminds me a little of comedown machine, the interlocking guitars but also the chill nature of the vocal melody, where it's just sort of stumbling into pleasant phrases rather than sounding overly composed, if that makes any sense

ufo, Thursday, 4 August 2022 02:12 (one year ago) link

finally watched the video and why aren't they the biggest band in the world

Murgatroid, Friday, 5 August 2022 04:44 (one year ago) link

she showed me what love is
i'm acting like i know myself

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 02:48 (one year ago) link

last two videos have def been their best music videos ever *skin crawls when remembering some of the commissioned notes music videos*

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 03:00 (one year ago) link

yeah absolutely

other strong videos: "frail state of mind", "sincerity is scary", "me & you together song", "a change of heart"

ufo, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link

I can think of a couple of big cities missing from that tour ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 03:56 (one year ago) link

also dj sabrina the teenage dj did production this. iconic.

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 3, 2022 4:15 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Nice. Loved this album/mixtape from last year that's a sugar rush of Avalanches-eque sample-heavy dance music/synth pop and VHS-era nostalgia

https://djsabrinatheteenagedj.bandcamp.com/album/the-makin-magick-ii-album

Indexed, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

Also, haven't read far yet but:

https://pitchfork.com/features/cover-story/the-1975-interview/

Indexed, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link

they originally recorded the new album with BJ Burton ahhhhhhhdjskfkgmgmfmm

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link

It's a good piece! I love the idea of a band that gets equal love from Taylor Swift and Brian Eno.

I was briefly scared that Antonoff produced it, not because I have a particular problem with his production/writing, but because the band doesn't *need* a ringer. But it looks like he only worked on a couple of tracks. And despite not using him, I'm still kind of glad they gave BJ a shot, because it's a concession that there are some things they maybe *can't* do (which gives them plenty of places to grow and go in the future), and also maybe recognized from the experience that there are things they *shouldn't* do, too, at least not now (which perhaps reveals, along with the shorter run-time, a newfound sense of restraint).

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

Speaking of which, !!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwWzSqaNJj0

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link

desperately want them to try working with burton again, obviously he wouldn't be a good fit for the more naturalistic direction they ended up going in on this but i would absolutely love them to try making a weird electronic left-turn

ufo, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

Would have been very interesting to hear but I'm not surprised the pairing didn't work out

he’s currently talking to companies like Netflix to release a 1975 documentary that includes footage of the band going back more than 15 years

Please please please

Vinnie, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link

bjb sounded pretty sour about it

flopson, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

Well they did leave him for Jack Antonoff

Vinnie, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 03:18 (one year ago) link

it sounds like he wanted to really push them to make weird electronic stuff, but it was a difficult process and they didn't end up feeling it was what they wanted to do right at that moment in time, hence going to antonoff and making a "live in a room no twiddling with computers" album instead

they do sound like it's something they're interested in possibly revisiting at some point though

i imagine a burton-produced "part of the band" would just be a straight-up bon iver song lol

ufo, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link

On the day we meet, he puffs on a string of relatively mild hash joints. It’s part of an effort to wean himself away from stronger strains as he prepares for an upcoming festival gig in Japan, where drug laws are strict and good weed is hard to find. “The last person I got weed off in Japan was Dave Mustaine from Megadeth, and I don’t think he’s gonna be there,” Healy deadpans. “And my plug in Japan died during COVID. Rest in peace to, um, he was just in my phone as ‘Fat Japan Dealer,’ but he was a good guy.”

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 August 2022 13:22 (one year ago) link

just an incredible paragraph there

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 13:45 (one year ago) link

Well they did leave him for Jack Antonoff

poor bjb is probably getting that a lot these days

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 13:47 (one year ago) link

The 1975 ‘I’m In Love With You’ Debut track from Being Funny In A Foreign Language (Part1) pic.twitter.com/zpUNqPs1yz

— Ben (@fuckedinacar) August 20, 2022



sounds amazing

J0rdan S., Saturday, 20 August 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

Setlist
The 1975 (Being Funny In a Foreign Language Version)
If You're Too Shy (Let Me Know)
Love Me
Chocolate
Me & You Together Song
TOOTIMETOOTIMETOOTIME
It's Not Living (If It's Not With You)
Paris
Happiness (Live debut)
Robbers
A Change of Heart
I’m in Love With You (Unreleased Song)
Somebody Else
Love It If We Made It
People
I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes)
The Sound
Sex
Give Yourself a Try

J0rdan S., Saturday, 20 August 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

https://www.reddit.com/r/the1975/comments/wt6b8h/the_1975_im_in_love_with_you_live_at_summer_sonic/

here's better quality, sounds great

it's the next single i believe

ufo, Saturday, 20 August 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

i do kinda miss the way that nearly every new single the last few albums would breach new ground for them though (though "part of the band" definitely did that)

ufo, Saturday, 20 August 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzzISo0M2bk

& here's the debut of "happiness"

ufo, Saturday, 20 August 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

I know it’s a festival set so they gotta play the hits and whatnot but I hope they play more NOACF songs on their upcoming tour

Murgatroid, Saturday, 20 August 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

I get strong "Cry" vibes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Siy8PjYqAkk

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 August 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link

I know it’s a festival set so they gotta play the hits and whatnot but I hope they play more NOACF songs on their upcoming tour


matty said on IG recently that the tour is a totally different show than what the upcoming festival sets are gonna be

J0rdan S., Saturday, 20 August 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

I love this band so much

k3vin k., Sunday, 21 August 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

somebody on the reddit uploaded a high quality recording of the show broken up by song

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1T7uzG3U5AM6BQWp7hWpNVQo6GDrsn8dM

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

the bridge on "i'm in love with you" is really exciting

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

and for the completists they played "tonight (i wish i was your boy)" live for the first time in osaka last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXdCLjI9otU

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

matty says that "paris" is his favorite song (agree)

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

otm

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 22 August 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/FJpfZBKbLp

— The 1975 (@the1975) August 26, 2022

"i'm in love with you" out next week

ufo, Saturday, 27 August 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link

I really wish we would start a new thread for the new album, this one is over 4000 posts and impossible to read.

Anyway excited and they are playing around Thanksgiving here in Los Angeles, really hope to finely see them.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link

Do you not use bookmarks?

Spottie, Saturday, 27 August 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

Bookmarks actually load for me about half the time. The other half, I start up top and have to scroll down and find where I was.

It may be something I'm doing wrong, I don't know. But for sure there are pages where it goes back and forth between working and not working.

alpine static, Saturday, 27 August 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

i revisited notes today. weird how every song on it is perfect

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 August 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxGTrxB66Vg

they sound fantastic and i'm regretting not spending money i didn't have on the msg show

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 29 August 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link

no you're never gonna quit it
no you're never gonna quit it
no you're never gonna quit it
if you don't stop smoking it

that's what she said

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 29 August 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

i revisited notes today. weird how every song on it is perfect

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, August 27, 2022 8:05 PM (two days ago)

it's a remarkable pop full length, no ifs ands or buts

pretty much everyone i know IRL who is a fan of them but not a this thread level stan usually respond in complete shock when i say that notes is their best album. from my interactions most ppl either just fully let this one pass them by or gave it a few listens and found it exhausting. which makes me think that they picked the perfect time to pare down and do a short, essentials style album.

J0rdan S., Monday, 29 August 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

I feel like the stans on this thread mostly are (and have been right from the start) quite invested in the whole “they can do anything” aspect of the band’s appeal, which Notes really leaned into, such that the album felt quite vindicating, almost as if it was specifically responding to and endorsing our enthusiasm.

My BF who has had to listen to a lot of The 1975 in the car is very much not that person. When I was playing “Happiness” he was like “I really liked this band’s first album, that was good. This sounds good too.”

Tim F, Monday, 29 August 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

funny, my bf could never stand them and now notes is the only he likes. i do think it hits specific genre points like shoegaze, country, garage, folk, soul that can appeal to a certain sorta listener. (i've made the point before that the album is sort of like record collector chic.) but the barrier for entry (caring about this band) is still a hurdle, there's no way he ever would've listened to it w/o me playing it in his presence.

for as much as you could (or we have) put 'i like it when you sleep' in the same bucket as sprawling wall splatter, in retrospect it feels like a completely natural outgrowth of album 1 and the EPs, leaning hard into 80s pop and then expanding a bit from within that (i.e. INXS rip offs, a bit more synth-pop in "somebody else"). i can see why one would not like that album for the same reasons they didn't like the previous music, but then find a way into notes. one of my biggest takeaways from relistening to all the albums recently is how tight 'i like it when you sleep' feels to me as an album now

J0rdan S., Monday, 29 August 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link

seeing them at their Toronto stop and even if their new one is a clunker (you never know!), excited to see Notes songs live

Murgatroid, Monday, 29 August 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

i like it when you sleep was a real expansion of their sound and ambition at the time - some of it was a fairly natural increased focus on synths, but there was also "if i believe you", the title track, and "please be naked" into "lostmyhead". it's still my favourite, the sequencing has a very cinematic feel and there's not many other pop albums that go through a tunnel and come out the other side like it does

notes has a ton of their very best material but the sequencing is a total mess, i'd still put it at #2 but i never want to listen to it in sequence

ufo, Monday, 29 August 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link

i think i characterised notes as undergoing a psychotic break around halfway through (or was it throughout) - it feels like an incredibly ambitious feat of deliberately-jarring sequencing and constant sabotage

imago, Monday, 29 August 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

the sequencing is actively hostile yeah

ufo, Monday, 29 August 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

I spend part of my time in a music listening world where The 1975 are reviled. I'm not one of them. I love their great songs. But I feel guilty that I'm in the minority here. To my ears they haven't recorded an album that isn't bloated with noodling instrumentals I'd as soon never hear again. But in the last nine years they've written at least a dozen songs better than any rock bands. So I keep trying.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 August 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

i guess the difference between soto and deep-space soto is that i find them much more compelling as an albums band than a singles band, and my interest in them is mostly an interest in the perverse architecture & sheer adventure of albums 2 and 4. i mean sure 'love it if we made it' is a wonderful bit of grandstanding and they have a few other banger singles, but

imago, Monday, 29 August 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

Looks like we need a poll.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 August 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

the first album doesn't have any extended instrumentals and i'd be a little surprised if the new one does

but again, managing to fit "please be naked" into "lostmyhead" in the middle of iliwys, to be in effect a 10 minute post-rock suite there, is part of what makes this band so great

ufo, Monday, 29 August 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ch5naEoMYKJ/

matty just posted a new track on instagram that's not on the album - "loads of crisps"

https://www.reddit.com/r/the1975/comments/x1vy65/via_mattys_story_new_ep_of_demos_to_be_released/

some sort of demos comp might be on the way, but matty also says a lot of shit that doesn't eventuate because he changes plans so we'll see. no idea if "loads of crisps" is related to that at all

ufo, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 05:19 (one year ago) link

i'm in love with youuuuuu

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 September 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVzVUDXoi0Y

absolute dream of a song

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

the way they're mixing/mastering this album is a bit of a hurdle for me, there's an openness and clarity of vocals in the live version of this that i'm missing. that having been said, it's a wonderful song and the bridge really makes it

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

I liked the first two singles more but this one is still a pretty song

Vinnie, Friday, 2 September 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link

this one's just fine but there's nothing to be excited about

ufo, Friday, 2 September 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

j0rd otm, esp about that bridge

Murgatroid, Friday, 2 September 2022 04:07 (one year ago) link

agree too

k3vin k., Friday, 2 September 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

Love this new one even if (perhaps because?) it is doing nothing new - it feels like a tune from Fleetwood Mac’s ‘Mirage’.

Tim F, Saturday, 3 September 2022 10:53 (one year ago) link

oh yes absolutely

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 3 September 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

Tim, I will always love you for hearing Fleetwood Mac's Mirage in the hum of car engines, the chirping of birds, and the rumbling of washing machines.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 September 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

Heard the 1975 on the radio this morning, maybe for the first time, and interestingly enough it was on the broadly/blandly "eclectic" station. It was "Part of the Band" (introduced iirc as "breaking new ground for the 1975," because it was so "lush"), followed by songs by Zeppelin, the Strokes, etc. (This is the station that plays DMB *and* Wet Leg, Cheap Trick and Japanese Breakfast.) I guess it makes sense, because the 1975 could fit in almost anywhere, though also "Part of the Band" isn't particularly representative of the group, imo, so I wonder what people expecting more of the same might think of the album.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 September 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

So wait, did Jack Antonoff produce the whole album, or have credits not been revealed yet?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 September 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link

iirc there was some indication that he didn't do every track? but full credits aren't out yet

ufo, Thursday, 8 September 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link

I looked on Wiki, and at first I thought he had just produced the three singles so far, but then I noticed those were the only songs with production credits listed. Though curiously (or perhaps incompletely) Antonoff is *not* listed as a co-writer. There's that quote that was in the Pitchfork feature:

Healy also makes it clear that he’s always the one in full creative control—of production, songwriting, performances. “Everything the 1975 does, I write.” He laughs softly. “No one touches the lyrics.”

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 September 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link

the full writing credits are out, just not production credits. he doesn't have any writing credits

ufo, Thursday, 8 September 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link

the band or Matty not sure are on the new episode of the How Long Gone podcast

trying to confirm whether it's the band or just Matty but i'm still at the long-winded intro

i do not get the appeal of the hosts or this popular-among-certain-circles podcast whatsoever

Murgatroid, Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link

like do you have to be irl friends with them to care about these two hosts or

Murgatroid, Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

it's Matty and George

How Long Gone achieving the previously unthinkable: making Matty Healy sound boring

great podcast

Murgatroid, Thursday, 15 September 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link

ahah HLG as divisive as The 1975.

I think the pod is great but it takes a few eps to get a feel for their personalities and suss out when they're being serious or doing a bit/trolling.

I think Jason is a legitimately great host and interviewer. been following since his Tall Tales podcast, the best episodes of which were always 1 on 1s with Chris Black. long time coming.

anza808, Thursday, 15 September 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link

I just saw a random video of Justin from the Darkness having a more or less real time epiphany listening to "Part of the Band."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 September 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnLYi6aNaQc

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 September 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

anza, oh it's not hard to figure out when they're serious or not, they're just not v good at either

Murgatroid, Thursday, 15 September 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link

fuck, the new song is gorgeous and simple

best of the new tracks

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

they choose specifically the days I need to cry all over.
this band...

Nourry, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YDyhUh2xrU

eh they've done this better before

ufo, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBUfpxBiLSo

oh the video is a live version, here's the studio

ufo, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link

new one not really doing anything for me, but these minimalist ballads are always my least favorite of their songs

k3vin k., Thursday, 22 September 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

like a much better version of "mine"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 September 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

matty posted a clip of a song for the drive like i do project he is supposedly putting out on IG story. 90s alt rock cosplay produced w/ one beabadoobee’s guys. it sounds amazing

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 September 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

https://www.reddit.com/r/the1975/comments/xkzv4q/holy_fuck_ive_literally_been_living_for_this/

here's the clips

ufo, Thursday, 22 September 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

random but you know a song I feel like they could like...interpolate or catch a vibe from, is Prince's "Since You Were Mine"

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 22 September 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

matty posted a clip of a song for the drive like i do project he is supposedly putting out on IG story. 90s alt rock cosplay produced w/ one beabadoobee’s guys. it sounds amazing

― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 22, 2022 3:09 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://www.reddit.com/r/the1975/comments/xkzv4q/holy_fuck_ive_literally_been_living_for_this/

here's the clips

― ufo, Thursday, September 22, 2022 3:12 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

3rd eye b1975nd is back

Spottie, Thursday, 22 September 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link

Usually don't like their acoustic tracks as much, but "All I Need to Hear" was a gorgeous listen, the live version anyway

Vinnie, Friday, 23 September 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

And yeah I know it's not really acoustic, I got lazy with the description haha

Vinnie, Friday, 23 September 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

Is it just me or is this giving Beyoncé's sandcastles vibes?

Nourry, Saturday, 24 September 2022 12:36 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkaiW_JnH8

ufo, Saturday, 1 October 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link

Someone went an ranked every single song released to date and because I could possibly do this myself:

https://www.gigwise.com/features/3427219/every-the-1975-song-ranked-from-worst-to-best

Bee OK, Monday, 10 October 2022 06:03 (one year ago) link

ok that list is immediately terrible because "pressure" is the best track on the debut, wtf

ufo, Monday, 10 October 2022 06:50 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZvF2YEkA_Q

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 10 October 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

god that is a chaotic list

k3vin k., Monday, 10 October 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPDXrkCampc

"part of the band" live

ufo, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 01:57 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2jdDSR4M_Q

new arrangement of "tootimetootimetootime" where they're playing it all live with sax everywhere without the sampled loops of the studio version

ufo, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 02:02 (one year ago) link

just got my ticket to see them for the third time. matty indicated they're playing the new album in full on tour but i hope there's lots of stuff from notes on the setlist since they never got to tour that

ufo, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link

covid wiping out the notes tour was personally disastrous

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 October 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link

the tour i wanna see is that album in full w/ some other songs sprinkled in

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 October 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link

i wouldn't really want them to do all of notes, it's too messy

would love all of i like it when you sleep though, especially since they didn't play here on the proper tour for it so i haven't seen many deeper cuts from it live

ufo, Thursday, 13 October 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

I don't know how "tootime" sounded on the tour for that album, but that new live version is dope

Vinnie, Thursday, 13 October 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link

matty coming soon on chicken shop date!

sean gramophone, Thursday, 13 October 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

oh "the 1975" is an actual song this time

ufo, Thursday, 13 October 2022 12:06 (one year ago) link

that's going to be so confusing lol

ufo, Thursday, 13 October 2022 12:07 (one year ago) link

definitely the best "the 1975" though

ufo, Thursday, 13 October 2022 12:11 (one year ago) link

this is their most sophisti-pop album easily

ufo, Thursday, 13 October 2022 12:25 (one year ago) link

pretty solid overall, maybe their second-best front-to-back even if it doesn't quite reach the same highs as some of their other albums. only "part of the band" really blew me away like they have at their best but "oh caroline" is really good too. "i'm in love with you" & "all i need to hear" were really boring single choices, i was worried the album would be dull but it's pretty good after all

ufo, Thursday, 13 October 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link

reichian piano phases running throughout “the 1975” [heart eyes emoji]

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link

i feel like the reference point was just "all my friends" but i'll take it

ufo, Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

ohhhh myyy fuckkiiing godddd @ "looking for somebody (to love)"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

i feel like the reference point was just "all my friends" but i'll take it

― ufo, Thursday, October 13, 2022 7:39 AM (fourteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's totally both

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

i like it a lot more than the last time they were inspired by "all my friends" (the direct melodic quote at the start of "sex" that's just annoying in how direct it is)

ufo, Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

omigod "I'm In Love with You" sounds like Lou Reed's "Dirty Blvd."

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

i feel like i'm on drugs (uppers only) listening to this

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

wait is this out?

k3vin k., Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

it's shall we say available

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

ahh

k3vin k., Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

"about you" is very special

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

i don't even know where to look anymore. is the pirate bay still a thing?

Indexed, Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

Seek your Soul

J. Sam, Thursday, 13 October 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

It's out at midnight, I can wait.

Bee OK, Thursday, 13 October 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link

omg, 'when we are together'

Nourry, Friday, 14 October 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link

ohhhh myyy fuckkiiing godddd @ "looking for somebody (to love)"

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:40 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

+1

J. Sam, Friday, 14 October 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

antonoff should make an album with swift that sounds like this

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 00:52 (one year ago) link

it's also like, the album antonoff has been trying to make his whole career lol

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link

this record is great but it is quite weird to hear them play it straight (i.e. 11 songs, all "songs," no instrumentals, no electronic stuff, no real genre hopping)

alpine static, Friday, 14 October 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link

there's still a fair amount of variety within the bounds they set for themselves

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 03:15 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiZFYXwjG2Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCIjNER1aaA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQC68ui90JA

live debuts of "roadkill", "oh caroline", and "looking for somebody (to love)"

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 03:28 (one year ago) link

"Looking For Somebody" and the last two songs are all-timers

Murgatroid, Friday, 14 October 2022 03:50 (one year ago) link

Out in the US even tho it's only 9 PM in Anaheim.

Bee OK, Friday, 14 October 2022 04:05 (one year ago) link

Looking for Somebody trades It’s Not Living’s smack for guns huh. what a smash

anza808, Friday, 14 October 2022 04:06 (one year ago) link

I'm only up to "Wintering" and I love this album. such lightness and space and joy in these songs, and hasn't really deviated from that sound yet. surprising how focused this album is given how sprawling the last several albums have been, but it's so cool to hear them go this way

Vinnie, Friday, 14 October 2022 04:18 (one year ago) link

yep, they stuck with that sound till the end, with a lot of variation within it. gorgeous amazing album, don't know how this band has kept up this level of consistency for a decade. is that FKA twigs again on "About You"? really lovely section

Vinnie, Friday, 14 October 2022 04:34 (one year ago) link

it's Adam Hann's wife, Carly Holt

Murgatroid, Friday, 14 October 2022 04:39 (one year ago) link

i don't like how they're just strumming the chorus of "part of the band" live instead of the fingerpicking on the studio version

my least favourite on the album is definitely "all i need to hear" which isn't even bad but they've done that exact song better a number of times before now - it has nothing on "if i believe you" for example.

"about you" is so good though, it's like someone introduced the blue nile to the ideas of shoegaze and saxophones

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 10:17 (one year ago) link

first impresh but this is my fav thing they've done since 'i like it when you sleep'. i know yall love the sprawling albums with all the interludes but i feel like i'm gonna get so much play out of this

flopson, Friday, 14 October 2022 10:33 (one year ago) link

yeah i agree, but iliwys was also sprawling with a bunch of interludes, it was just the best at it

a brief enquiry was basically just iliwys2 except somehow less consistent despite being shorter, and notes was an incoherent mess that nonetheless contained a whole lot of brilliance

this is the closest to all-killer-no-filler they've come

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 10:40 (one year ago) link

so far up to 'all i need to hear' which is definitely the worst track so far, along with 'part of the band', which cmon we don't need extra reminders who produced this

imago, Friday, 14 October 2022 10:42 (one year ago) link

largely enjoying the rest tho and yeah 'looking for somebody (to love)' is quite something

imago, Friday, 14 October 2022 10:42 (one year ago) link

"looking for somebody (to love)" is the most antonoff thing here though

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 10:48 (one year ago) link

*throws up hands* maybe I just don't like how he does strings

I didn't much like Human Too either - the slow songs not landing this time - but About You is great yeah, their OX4

imago, Friday, 14 October 2022 10:53 (one year ago) link

i love the strings on "part of the band". the idea was apparently to get them to sound like "street hassle"

"human too" is one of the weaker songs for sure but i like the approach to it better than "all i need to hear" at least

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 10:58 (one year ago) link

i liked about two-thirds of the album by your goddamn band lol cmon

i agree that Human Too works better than All I Need To Hear at least, there's a Neat Idea behind its sound at least even if it's a bit slight to pull it off fully

what makes LFS(TL) so good for me is all that mad background percussion burbling away like a barely-repressed memory, which...you cannot convince me that is anything other than the band's own idea

imago, Friday, 14 October 2022 11:03 (one year ago) link

Not sure if this has been posted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNf30EKBDdY

groovypanda, Friday, 14 October 2022 11:04 (one year ago) link

ok Part Of The Band better on second listen

imago, Friday, 14 October 2022 11:08 (one year ago) link

sorry, i didn't mean to come across however i did there, it's fine if you're not into "part of the band" (i love it though)

all that mad background percussion burbling away like a barely-repressed memory, which...you cannot convince me that is anything other than the band's own idea

oh yeah that bit rules. really it's an antonoff-y song in that it sounds so much like the sort of stuff he writes, like i wouldn't have at all been surprised if he had a co-write there. i don't think he's that distinctive of a producer really beyond being a little boring, he very much feeds off what his collaborators give him to work with. but i think he was a decent enough fit for what they were going for on this album, even if i still want that weirdo electronic album with bj burton to be finished some day

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 11:20 (one year ago) link

nah you were being v nice, i was being deliberately a bit obnoxious in true healyian spirit (and not my usual obnoxiousness ofc lol)

and yeah, the production here maybe isn't as delightfully fucked as it is in their best two albums (the sprawling ones), but it definitely doesn't feel like they've ironed out all the kinks, and they've managed to retain what makes them them. bj burton would be an amazing collaborator obv yes - they're really creative with rhythm textures already so it would be great to see how he pushed their guitar/synth textures

imago, Friday, 14 October 2022 11:25 (one year ago) link

btw i did just listen to OX4 again and it is indeed a good companion-piece to About You imho, beyond even the bassline similarities

imago, Friday, 14 October 2022 11:28 (one year ago) link

i love the strings on "part of the band". the idea was apparently to get them to sound like "street hassle"

True, but my first thought was of Lou Reed's "Street Hassle."

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, July 7, 2022 9:08 PM (three months ago)

So I guess add Lou Reed to that long list of "things the 1975 reference or remind us of"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 October 2022 11:49 (one year ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/08/arts/music/1975-matty-healy-being-funny-in-a-foreign-language.html

this is the interview where he confirms the reference point

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 11:52 (one year ago) link

I love this album but I'll always (probably) prefer sprawling, incoherent 1975 to concise 1975

give me the interludes, all of em

Murgatroid, Friday, 14 October 2022 11:52 (one year ago) link

ideally they'll do another album that's both sprawling and coherent

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 11:59 (one year ago) link

Double albums (in the Old Days) were meant to be inconsistent; that's their fun!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2022 12:01 (one year ago) link

being able to make a coherent double album is a rare talent though & not all are sequenced in as hostile a way as notes was

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 12:03 (one year ago) link

I like this album (my fifth or sixth play), though Healy's attempts at guilelessness sometimes ick me out (i.e. the line about kissing in the Target toy aisle in "About You").

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2022 12:08 (one year ago) link

They should just release a bonus disc of interludes and goofs that fans can shuffle into the album at will. Or play at the same times, like "Zaireeka."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 October 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

Every time Healy sings the chorus of "Human Too" I expect Phil Oakey to chime in with "That's right!"

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2022 12:39 (one year ago) link

turns out warren ellis (!) is to thank for turning "about you" into a shoegaze track

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link

this album is kinda the anti-notes in every way and as a notes partisan it’s not my favorite 1975 project ever but it’s still a very good album on its own merits. “about you” is like an EP song played on “real” instruments (so, kind of a sequel to “you,” or possibly “me” and “you”… together…)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

the closer is fantastic, also, reminds me of when they played that countrified full band version of “be my mistake” live and i was like “this should’ve been the version on the record”

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

i am like sorta hoping they ditch antonoff next time bc as fun as his imprint on them can be ("looking for somebody" such a perfect bleachers song it'll make the entire bleachers catalog unlistenable), idk, despite this record containing healy's best singing ever there's a cloudiness to the vocal production that i do not like and have trouble aligning with this band that makes good-sounding records

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

healy’s been like “this is the real follow-up to a brief inquiry” and it certainly is

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link

i still quite like notes despite how messy it is, a bunch of their very best material is on it but it just doesn't make for a good listen to front-to-back.

"about you" most reminds me of "robbers" which is going for a similar "with or without you" thing just without the shoegaze

interestingly matty claims he did record a drive like i do ep as planned but he just didn't get around to finishing it before they got too into making bfiafl & one of the tracks originally intended for it was "pictures of us" which ended up on this year's beabadoobee album

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link

yeah keeping antonoff around would be boring, they've done the 'live band all in a room' thing this time and he fit well for that but to stick to it would be regressive

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

i was kinda worried it would end up being that here but it didn't end up happening thankfully

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 13:45 (one year ago) link

not hitting my pleasure receptors in the way that notes, i like it or debut do. feels closest to a brief inquiry i guess, which left me similarly a bit colder/more distant, but also i am really enjoying it and think every song is great? the aspects of '1975ishness' that they've focused in on here just aren't my favourite versions of them. defo think the murkier vocal production contributes to that

"when we are together" is the one i am most immediately crushing on

uberweiss, Friday, 14 October 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

but also i am really enjoying it and think every song is great?

yeah otm, can't stop listening to it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

I have the usual trouble with their ballads but it's so damn brief.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

it doesn't feel less complete for being brief, which was my primary worry

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

Thoroughly enjoyed this on my first couple runs through. Only song I don't love is "Human Too," and even that is quite good relative to their other albums's low points.

Is this record unusually front-loaded for them? Sure feels like they stacked up the hits 2-6 where they've historically spaced them out and made you wade through the genre explorations.

Indexed, Friday, 14 October 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

there's a false tautological argument happening itt where the longer albums are deemed "inconsistent" but they're really not at all. i also think the idea that notes is all over the place in terms of genre is a bit overplayed, i've said before that there's a certain record store nerd taste that bridges ambient rock, shoegaze, 80s pop, country, garage, techno etc. that album has always just made a lot of sense to me. i like it when you sleep basically just exists in the mid 80s - mid 90s, it's just an amazing pop album i can't see it any other way.

i also think that when ppl think of their albums as bodies of work the focus is 100% on the sonics, but notes has such a coherent narrative POV that i can never align w/ ppl who think it's incoherent or whatever. i'm just gonna cite this post i wrote a few years ago:

the transition from tightly coiled song about anxiety and displacement into the wide open, warm, choral salvation of "nothing revealed" is really effective. the whole middle section is really the key to this record.... the only way you could find the transitions abrupt is if you think about the songs' relationship to each other strictly in terms of genre. the emotional thread connects. "if i was your boy" channels the search for salvation into a fleeting encounter, "shiny collarbone" shatters the scene & then the narrator finds himself running back to whatever hotel or motel he can find in order to pour all the tumult into his fav camgirl. even "playing on my mind" after... "i won't get clothes online cause i get worried about the fit / but that rule doesn't apply concerning relationships"... he can't shake it. anyway i find the POV of this record very coherent and can't really listen to it w/o playing the full thing, which i do all the time.

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 19, 2020 9:58 PM (two years ago)

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 October 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

i don't love the opener of this album, it feels a bit smushed together production wise. but i do think that "happiness" has an almost "break my soul" level reorientation w/in the context of the tracklist. the openness of the groove stopped me in my tracks coming out of the opener

"looking for somebody (to love)" is amazing... i thought the live version posted up thread was even better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQC68ui90JA

given the nature of this record i guess it scans that it would lend itself to live performances. sadly i also think the production is muddy in a way that makes the live arrangements of these songs feel a bit revelatory

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 October 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link

"wintering" i really love, lyrically i think it finds one of the most natural landing spots on this record. it's another one written w/ jacob bugden who is beabadoobee's guitarist & has been working on the drive like i do project w/ matty

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 October 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

i love the cool guitar coda to the opener of this album

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link

“wintering” is sort of like what if “menswear” were a pop-rock song. obv the subject matter is different but the detailed approach to the subject matter feels similar

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

I agree that the opener sounds more smushed than it should. The "and this is what it looks like" bit also feels like way more of a James Murphy reference than "this is how it starts" from "Sex" ever did. Otherwise it's a great sound for them and the lyrics are peak Matty. I also like the way the arrangement pokes back through at the end of "When We Are Together". A bit of an obvious trick but an effective one, and it punctuates the specific feel of this album, not as more consistent or coherent than the previous three albums, or even more tailored necessarily, but more recursive maybe. It feels like an album delivered almost entirely from the POV of the narrator in "Me and You Together Song".

"Wintering" my early favourite.

Tim F, Friday, 14 October 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

"wintering" was actually written for drive like i do but then ended up on this album

ufo, Friday, 14 October 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

Pretty sure that when Matt decided on “this will get bigger, if you know what I mean / I’m sorry if you’re living and you’re seventeen” he immediately leaned back and said to himself “oh yeah, that’s the core, the heart music”

Tim F, Friday, 14 October 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link

oh bj burton has a writing credit on the "the 1975"

ufo, Saturday, 15 October 2022 08:15 (one year ago) link

i’m really thankful they put the sax guy on every track. been waiting for that eventuality since idk “this must be my dream”

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 October 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

some next-level Matt dancing in that clip..

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link

Ann Powers!

There's a name for the kind of guy Healy tells us he is within these deceptively blithe ballads and dance floor burners; it's one that's suited rock stars like him, with their disheveled charisma and well-annotated little black books, for years. Critiquing masculinity while maintaining his position within the enduring hierarchies that put those bad boys on top, he's the one you love to roll your eyes at. He's a dirtbag, baby, in a long line of antiheroes who interrogate the shapes of male privilege from the inside, even as they benefit from its persistence.

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/14/1128796265/the-1975-dirtbag-being-funny-in-a-foreign-language

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

started reading this before i realized it had multiple subheds about the dirtbag archetype, don’t really agree with her insights into the songs either

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 October 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

"I'm gonna stop messing it up," Healy repeats in "Happiness" as the beat sweeps him up. But he knows that if he wants, he can go on messing things up pretty much forever.

1. he doesn’t repeat it
2. the following lyric is “because i’m feeling like i’m messing it up”
3. never let accuracy get in the way of your thesis i guess

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 October 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

"happiness" is more way more interesting to me as a song about experiencing love while, in the very margins of your thinking, doubting its reality

is ann the only music critic still getting paid for writing thinkpieces that thread together several modern topics of discourse, haven't encountered one of these in a while lol

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

she showed me what love is. i'm acting like i know myself

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

I'm not much for accuracy with lyrics tbh. Accuracy matters at karaoke and not even then.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

Drawing a link btw Kurt Cobain and modern “incels” seems to be the critical trope of the moment.

Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Saturday, 15 October 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

yeah I sort of think that if you’re going to attempt a text-based analysis of a work it’s necessary to get the text right

I’m one listen in, apart from the songs we’ve already heard the one I’m most into is “about you” — layering their early sound under shoegaze fuzz seems like a pretty foolproof formula

k3vin k., Saturday, 15 October 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

"The Proud Boys ape grunge styles, and incels express anxieties about sexual disempowerment that strangely echo Cobain."

I thought the proud boys wore Fred Perry and Ben Sherman style stuff

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 October 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

I'm not much for accuracy with lyrics tbh. Accuracy matters at karaoke and not even then.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, October 15, 2022 10:14 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

accuracy actually does matter for close-reading

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 October 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

pretty disappointed in matty for leaving ann powers on new years eve and also being the unabomber

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 15 October 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

same

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

accuracy actually does matter for close-reading

― flamenco drop (BradNelson),

It's still a sympathetic take. Healy's always come off as a rascal, scamp, asshole, whatever -- a long tradition with male frontmen. Mishearing lyrics doesn't change for me the effectiveness of that take. It's still a fucking long essay, though, and after the first few hundred words my attention wavered.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

The friction between being an unabashed rock fan and the fact that a lot of the charismatic dudes are inna dirtbag style which is both off putting and attractive (even if their actual dirtbagness is maybe a pose) rings p true. Surprised she didn’t make room to mention the dirtbag (not pose) rock king Ryan Adams.

omar little, Saturday, 15 October 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

ok sorry i am definitely approaching that piece with the wrong expectations, bc for me ideally a long npr piece on this band would explore the record, and this is more interested in using it as a jumping off point to talk about the way an archetype solidifies over time and takes form in both reality and recent hbo shows

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 October 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

Whither “fuckboi”

xheugy eddy (D-40), Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link

matty seems nice imho, not dirtbag at all

flopson, Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

Even if he was that’s such a boring & uninteresting angle on an album

xheugy eddy (D-40), Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

I do like that as a continuation of your take on the Seinfeld cast. They do seem like supportive friends lol. I was rewatching Seinfeld recently and thinking about that curb plot where everyone keeps describing George as a “loser” and Larry is like he’s not a loser … he’s based on me

xheugy eddy (D-40), Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link

one of the things that makes me very grateful for ilm is the contrast between the way this thread talks about this band and the way npr/pitchfork/music media talk about them, where every sentence is Matty Lyrics About Memes Earnest Millenial Trump Irony Cancel Culture Self-Aware Toxic. critics' understanding of this band is stunted at 'love it if we made it'

flopson, Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

I do like that as a continuation of your take on the Seinfeld cast. They do seem like supportive friends lol. I was rewatching Seinfeld recently and thinking about that curb plot where everyone keeps describing George as a “loser” and Larry is like he’s not a loser … he’s based on me

― xheugy eddy (D-40), Saturday, October 15, 2022 8:40 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

1975 are def the seinfeld of indie rock

flopson, Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:51 (one year ago) link

This album is good. They had such lofty standards that I think I expected more, side two is on the weaker side. Still love their sound however.

Bee OK, Sunday, 16 October 2022 01:46 (one year ago) link

Only two listens so far so have the right to change my mind by years end

Bee OK, Sunday, 16 October 2022 01:47 (one year ago) link

i do wish matty had written a bit less about being "cancelled" on this album though & he's admitted as much in interviews

i think part of his appeal is that he's good at toeing the line with the dirtbag thing. his persona is as much that as it has in common with say, ezra from vampire weekend (who i don't think really fits into it at all despite what's known about his personal life), just without ezra's upper class pose

ufo, Sunday, 16 October 2022 02:21 (one year ago) link

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How seinfeld’s George costanza became the bad boy you love to roll your eyes at

xheugy eddy (D-40), Sunday, 16 October 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link

there’s something very particular the “about you” reminds me of — the blue nile, for sure, but the the melody of the hook is so warmly familiar for some reason and I just can’t place it, it’s driving me nuts

k3vin k., Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link

"with or without you"? probably not the one you're thinking of though

ufo, Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:28 (one year ago) link

in the seinfeld analogy matty is george/larry (widely misunderstood as a misanthrope/narcissist dirtbag but is actually a nice guy, only really unusual for how open he is about his flaws) while ezra is jerry (dated a teenager)

flopson, Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:36 (one year ago) link

Brad made me lol but also it OTM about “about you” being a “me” and “you” together song

Tim F, Sunday, 16 October 2022 04:13 (one year ago) link

Even if he was that’s such a boring & uninteresting angle on an album

― xheugy eddy (D-40)

idk I appreciated it because I'm not seeing a lot of women writing at length about this album or them at length who are also taking the album and band seriously, whether here or elsewhere (and if I'm missing anything, please point me to them!)

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 October 2022 04:27 (one year ago) link

thought the ann powers piece was good. this is as otm a description of matty as i've read

But for all the leading man tendencies he exhibits, Healy remains a trickster. He can't give up his wicked insights, his distancing jests, his assertions of independence. Salting the music's earnestness with sarcasm and intimations of self-sabotage, Healy ultimately stays true to the archetype he's always best embodied – a hyper-intellectual sybarite who loves pleasure and connection but needs to keep his distance to maintain his creativity and cool.

flopson, Sunday, 16 October 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link

Looking for Somebody trades It’s Not Living’s smack for guns huh. what a smash

― anza808, Thursday, October 13, 2022 11:06 PM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Only post I've seen that directly engaged with the lyrics of "Looking for Somebody (To Love)." Am I the only one who finds the inevitable live sing-along of this upbeat anthem deeply unsettling and problematic?

Indexed, Monday, 17 October 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

studio version of "I'm In Love With You" still strikes me as a missed opportunity and i'm wondering what it would sound like if it was on any of their previous albums

Murgatroid, Monday, 17 October 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORCNXtnlD38

live version of problematic song

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 17 October 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

i find the line "somebody picking up the body of somebody they were getting to know" so devastatingly sad when i know what the song's about, and i think that's ultimately why i don't find it problematic? it's inhabiting a totally toxically fucked perspective but healy as this fractally self-reflexive author is able to hover just one level of context above it at times so that i don't feel like i'm stuck in the echo chamber of some violent misogynist's mind, and it's ultimately what makes the song really textually interesting beyond it being a really happy-sounding song about something horrible

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 17 October 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link

obv maybe a little edgelordy to be like "i'm going to write a song from the perspective of an incel school shooter" but healy for better or worse (better i think) is that kind of writer, and it's absolutely aligned with the impulse that created "love it if we made it" (is it problematic that their crowds sing "i moved on her like a bitch"?`)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 17 October 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

tbh I had to google the lyrics to a song I'd already considered the album's catchiest and best. I thought he sang "Second Gentleman."

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 October 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

In a meeting so will need to watch the live performance in a bit but "I moved on her like a bitch" is a quote in a song about how "modernity has failed us." The commentary is quite clear to me. I don't like the first-person incel narrative of "Looking for Somebody" that is probably intentionally ambiguous about where to place the blame but am admittedly triggered (please ignore the pun) by school shooting shit as the father of young kids and spouse of a teacher.

Indexed, Monday, 17 October 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

Having now read the lyrics and listened to it again, isn't he in and out of the character's mind -- being him and observing him and vice versa?

(I'll also admit that I didn't know how "gentleman" now means incel).

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 October 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

The specific idea that school shooters are/were just "looking for somebody to love" it implies victim blaming. Reminds me of X Gonzalez's rant after Parkland when she said something to the effect of: critics say we shouldn't have ostracized him, but "you didn't know him, we did". Thinking of crowds of teenagers singing "bang bang bang bang" does not sit right with me.

Indexed, Monday, 17 October 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

*they

Indexed, Monday, 17 October 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

i think the idea of finding a sing along to a school shooter anthem problematic and unsettling is a completely fair position. on some level the song obviously intends to be unsettling. i've been thinking about why they didn't release it as a single given that, to me, it's clearly the catchiest pop song on the album. i wonder if they were a bit chastened by "love it if we made it" ... i kinda feel like not releasing it as a single is an implicit acknowledgement that the song is problematic & there was a desire on their end to not have the press cycle for this album defined by whether it's ok to release a giddy pop anthem from the POV of a school shooter. though it also must be acknowledged that "pumped up kicks" already got there a decade ago.

for me, the song comes from a place of empathy so i don't really find it problematic beyond the surface level tension of the sonics of the song vs the subject matter. but i also think that such a bait and switch is part & parcel of pop music... the song is basically their version of "born in the USA." the idea of american crowds -- which are, on some level, now defined by mass shootings (the anxiety, the hard logistics of what to do if there is a mass shooting where you're standing [i'm always making myself very cognizant of exits at venues]) -- singing along to an anthemic pop song about a mass shooter that asks you to consider the mass shooter's interior life and by extension what we as a society can do to help such ppl, makes for a really interesting communal experience/reaction to art. most "acceptable" mass shooting art i would imagine is pretty mawish. but not everyone has to want that communal experience either -- if everyone did then the song would be far less provocative.

i ultimately find it provocative but not in a troll-y way which, certainly for this band, makes it easier to defend than a lot of other stuff, to me. Indexed, you saying that the commentary on "i love it if we made it" is clear and so that makes quoting trump's misogyny not problematic to you is also a totally fair position but i do think that, for other people, ambiguity makes the art better. again i don't really begrudge anyone's position here but i think that that one can be enthralled or revolted (or both at the same time) is what makes the song great, aside from it just being a wonderful pop song. but i also love gus van sant's "elephant"

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 October 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

xp "Supreme Gentleman" is what incel mass shooter Elliot Rodger called himself in his manifesto, and it has since been adopted by the online incels who venerate him.

I generally agree with Brad's take on the song's lyrics. For me, the victim blaming implied by "looking for somebody to love" is a product of the shooter's deeply disturbed and hateful mind, not a view that's endorsed by Healy. Though I definitely understand why one might hear the whole thing as an exercise in poor taste.

J. Sam, Monday, 17 October 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

the song is basically their version of "born in the USA."

I thought of this too, with a difference: the guy in the Springsteen song is sympathetic or at least not a sociopath.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 October 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

the song is basically their version of "born in the USA."

I thought of this too, with a difference: the guy in the Springsteen song is sympathetic or at least not a sociopath.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, October 17, 2022 1:57 PM (five minutes ago)

for sure. but that's why i say it's "their version" bcuz a character as plainly sympathetic as the one in "born in the usa" is not the 1975's MO. (and i'm not denigrating "born in the USA" which is a great song and given springsteen's stature w/in american culture was a more difficult and loaded trick to play than anything matty will ever do.)

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 October 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

The specific idea that school shooters are/were just "looking for somebody to love" it implies victim blaming. Reminds me of X Gonzalez's rant after Parkland when she said something to the effect of: critics say we shouldn't have ostracized him, but "you didn't know him, we did"

― Indexed, Monday, October 17, 2022 1:28 PM (nineteen minutes ago)

i think this song is aiming to provoke questions around what society can do to embrace outcasts in a macro sense -- i don't read it as saying something as literal as "high school students bear the responsibility of making sure they don't get massacred by ostracized boys."

i do think it's a worthwhile conversation & it's one that a bunch of art across the political spectrum is attempting to have. on one end there is i.e. alex lee moyer "tfw no gf" which i haven't seen but is obv very divisive in the empathy it extends to incels. matty rubs up against that sphere online, i'm sure he's seen that movie. he posted recently about following ppl like andrew tate, ben shapiro for "research" ... you can draw a direct line from a lot of his public online activity to this song.

on the other end of the spectrum there's this documentary short that was released recently called "stranger at the gate" about an army veteran who intends to bomb a mosque in ohio. when he goes to case the mosque before the bombing he gets welcomed with open arms by the members there and ends up converting to islam and becoming a pillar of the community. it's a fascinating film and at only 30 mins i couldn't recommend it strongly enough if you're interested in this general conversation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPbbl1S6foM

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 October 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

great posts j0rd

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 17 October 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

yeah

k3vin k., Monday, 17 October 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

Yes, TY for your pov - much appreciated. It's been many many years since I saw Elephant but recall it being unambiguously cold and disturbing. "Looking for Somebody to Love" is a gleeful celebration. Maybe I'm supposed to find this ironic and witty, but unfortunately I don't.

Indexed, Monday, 17 October 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

well, it is gleeful. but i wouldn't call it a celebration. it seems plainly the opposite to me.

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 October 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

music should only be about unambiguously good things

k3vin k., Monday, 17 October 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

It's been many many years since I saw Elephant but recall it being unambiguously cold and disturbing

this is a good analogy

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 October 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

"Looking..." is only ironic in the discrepancy between form and content, i.e. the gap between the lyrics and pretty hooks/danceable rhythm.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 October 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

hmm I actually think the song has much more 'bite' towards school shooters than this thread is crediting it with. there's obviously a deep irony, not apologia, to the line about the shooter 'looking for somebody to love'. Specifically this lyrical couplet I think is pretty strong evidence that the song is not overtly about sympathy (especially when combined with the perspective of the survivors that Brad highlighted):

"You gotta show me how to push
If you don't want a shove"
Are the words of a young man already damned
lookin for somebody to love

he's directly indicting the circular logic of the incel shooter

xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 17 October 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

I also think that what makes it *feel* problematic *is exactly what makes the song is most powerfully effective*

The songs that he's playing off of, in terms of energy and stlye -- Rick Springfield? Billy Idol? Don Henley? idk -- are so ingrained with a kind of mythos, the very meaning of the titular chorus, is so much a part of built in logics of gender roles and entitlement and -- when you hear these chords, this energy, you've been trained through forty years of pop culture to shift into understanding that you're supposed to find somebody to love, that you've earned it, etc.

This song directly undermines it, not in a way that telegraphs 'sense of humor' or 'edgelord' to me, but in a way that actually indicts the very culture of automatic responses to certain chords & song structures & phrases, that the very nature of pop music *enabling* the kind of alienation towards other people by trying to fit everyone into one-size-fits-all boxes, is reinforced by certain emotional notes that songs like this play in the past, and continue to loom over our worldviews.

By undermining that, I feel like the song is something that feels extremely contemporary, rather than retro, in a way that makes it seem so much more politically pointed

xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 17 October 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

I think that "inside my mind" did something similar -- the chords are, while not the same as, evocative of "Baba O'Riley", and I feel like turning that into a song that's about ... well, its not about abuse, per se, but about the entire spectrum of gendered entitlement, from "I deserve to know what she is thinking" all the way to spousal murder, and pinning it to this chords that are so associated with being a young, free, liberated teen (in a wasteland, admittedly, but I always thought the song felt more liberating idk)...he's combining this sense of liberation with this sense of violence in a way that feels very subversive

xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 17 October 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

Deej absolutely OTM. The song is ultimately an expression disgust at the weaponisation of the concept of ‘love’ and, and among other things, trying to point out that that weaponisation has a long history that is embedded in mass and popular culture, and that the extreme incel manifestation of it is only that, an extreme manifestation.

If anything, I think the song is less about trying to understand mass shooters than it is using them as a rhetorical device: the logical end point of Andrew Tate culture. And then making the point that we shouldn’t smugly assume that our own notions of romantic attachment are entirely uninfected.

Tim F, Monday, 17 October 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

In other words, the song is not asking us to identify with incel mass shooters; it’s arguing that at the level of culture we already do.

Tim F, Monday, 17 October 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

this is what matty said about the song in the interview or whatever that accompanies the album on apple music:

"If I'm going to talk about guns, it's probably good for me to talk about the thing that I probably understand or empathize with the most, which is that the only vocabulary or lexicon that we provide for young boys to assert their dominance in any position is one of such violence and destruction. There's a line that says 'You've got to show me how to push/If you don't want a shove,' which is me saying we have to try and figure this crisis out because there are so many young men that don't really have guidance, and a toxic masculinity is inevitable if we don't address the way we communicate with them."

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 October 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

Hence the release of the chorus.

Xpost

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 October 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

also this to vulture:

I think that it’s important because it’s the one song that is political. It’s a song about a school shooting, so it’s a stance in that sense, but in the way that “Love It If We Made It” got away with being what it was because it wasn’t pointing fingers — it was asking questions. It wasn’t saying, “You shouldn’t do this; we shouldn’t do this.” It was saying, “Should we be doing this? Is that okay? Do you like this image?”

“Looking for Somebody (to Love)” is about men. The place that I was coming from is that it’s very easy, and maybe fair, to demonize some incel dressed as the Joker who goes and fucking shoots up a school, right? Of course they’re a psychopath — they’re fucking whatever. But in the second verse of the song, I think what I’m saying is that if the only vocabulary that we give young men to be assertive is one of such destruction and domination and violence, then a toxic masculinity, in some forms, normally in underfunded parts of countries and forgotten parts of countries, is maybe an inevitability. I think that we need to look at the crisis of masculinity a bit more seriously and a bit more head-on. It does tend to be young white boys who spend too much time on the internet that are doing most of that terrorism in America. And I’m interested to keep that conversation going because I don’t know what the reason is, but I’ve got a sense.

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 October 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

The circularity of the lyric -- the way it also doubles back, the way the POV switches from subject to object -- for some reason reminded me of this great poem..

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 October 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

btw these are the bits of Ann's essay that resonated:

Dirtbagism remains an unstable category years after it was first codified, big enough to include many variations. Today, it mainly flourishes in three distinct ways, all of which surface in Healy's songs. First, there's the comic version, the teenage masturbator he celebrates and gently chides in satires like "Part of the Band." This is the dirtbag as innocent youth, unable to articulate ambition or realize even modest desires, but not too concerned about those things. This heartwarming creature, also embodied in the "teenage dirtbag" TikTok trend and by mulletted doll Eddie Munson on Stranger Things, is all innocence and aimlessness, a hyperlink to more relaxed, if mostly imaginary, good times. He defuses male power by laughing at it through a sativa haze.

A second way to imagine the dirtbag is as an emotionally driven, harried, somewhat broken, idiosyncratic man who's gone off the grid in pursuit of a passion that compromises his ability to fulfill the norms of success. This is Matty Healy to a T, telling his family in "Wintering" that he'll barely be back for Christmas, sending sincere but basically useless apologies for the state of the earth to kids half his age in "The 1975." The soulful dirtbag is the type most often seen on prestige television, in inexhaustible variations that have expanded the role and brought it up to date for a culture that values a multiracial and sexually fluid ideal. In fact, it was Donald Glover who arguably conjured the current version of this dirtbag into existence in the groundbreaking dramedy Atlanta — from his own character of Earn, ambitious but self-sabotaging, to LaKeith Stanfield's dandyish wild card Darius, to the thrillingly unmooored and increasingly androgynous cool girl Van, so beautifully realized by Zazie Beets.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 October 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

Genuinely appreciate the thoughtful dialogue on this (!) and don't want to keep banging my drum when everyone else seems to have a different pov but the direct quotes from Healy do not assuage my concerns. I am all for grappling with the social determinants of incel culture, toxic masculinity, etc. but no, it is not fucking inevitable, and no, I do not have to be sympathetic to mass murders of children, regardless of the home life they had or the part of the country they grew up in or whatever else he thinks may be the cause. And more importantly, I do not find it artistic or clever or brave or whatever word you all seem to find appealing about this to put these thoughts in a euphoric pop song.

Indexed, Monday, 17 October 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link

I'll shut up now. Thanks all...

Indexed, Monday, 17 October 2022 21:26 (one year ago) link

I haven't heard the song, but I agree w/Indexed re: Healey's quotes above... "underfunded parts of countries and forgotten parts of countries" doesn't apply to, say, Columbine, Isla Vista, Aurora... and tying a critique of "culture" to these extreme psychopaths with easy access to weapons feels sketchy. Whatever the merits of the song, I think he may be over his head in these interviews.

Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Monday, 17 October 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link

I do not find it artistic or clever or brave or whatever word you all seem to find appealing about this to put these thoughts in a euphoric pop song.

― Indexed, Monday, October 17, 2022 4:25 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I said subversive. The associations we have to euphoria in songs typically about looking for somebody to love are already manipulations themselves. That you associate them with euphoria is the entire straightjacket his song seems to be trying to escape, a learned association that promises euphoria in a world that can’t possibly deliver it. And when extremists are denied it, they react with horrific violence. This is not apologia, it’s the recognition of complicity to structures that incentivize brutality. The euphoria is not a natural state, it is something we’re taught we can buy or we can earn or take, or are entitled to. His use of it to shake free of its associations gives a an actual feeling of empowerment Imo, because it says you can reject these scripts entirely

xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 17 October 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

TFW When no GF is significantly less nuanced than this and is pretty obviously rightwing propaganda. it is all about normalizing violent responses from white men to the same issues of inequality and anomie everyone is dealing with. trash.

this, while better, falls to the same general problem of most over-identification as critique which ends up celebrating its object, but that's just the hedonistic core of all art irrespective of intent and a danger to anyone who attempts it

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 17 October 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link

I really dont see how this is 'celebrating' it -- he clearly finds it repulsive!

xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 17 October 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link

your association of these chord changes and 'vibes' with 'celebration' are exactly what is being pointed to...the manipulative nature of such

xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 17 October 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link

Perhaps this goes without saying but it's also not the case that drawing links between mass shootings, incel culture, toxic masculinity more broadly and then the way in which aspects of toxic masculinity are deeply engrained within aspects of popular culture's presentation of love and romance is... giving gun culture, the gun industry and the gun lobby a free pass. This is not like saying "this shooting was caused by marilyn manson not guns".

I think to the extent that this needs to be explicit, it's in the aspects of the lyrics which many people probably find most upsetting, the focus on the physicality of the violence, the celebratory "bang bang bang" etc. This boils down to the image of "a supreme gentleman / with a gun in his hand", and the way that this is couplet broadly ironic (how can holding a gun equate with gentility?) but narrowly consistent within the logic of toxic masculinity and its notion of social hierarchies devoid of ethics or even the figleaf of chivalry (the point of the song being: chivalry is a lie). The weaponisation of romance finds its purest and most awful expression in the literal deployment of weapons.

Tim F, Monday, 17 October 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

there are lots of songs from the perspective of killers, serial killers or otherwise. I think there's something specific to this type of killer that makes it extra unpleasant. too close to home, too contemporary, something like that.

anyway, just heard the album for the first time, and I think it's only okay. or at least not too much jumped out at me as working at the level of the past few. not bad by any stretch, but maybe a little too musically MOR for my tastes. certainly the '80s music signifiers seemed more on the nose than usual.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link

poor word choice on my part (although xp to tim i guess it is a relevant concept somehow lol)

tbc i don't think healy is secretly into it, like lee moyers is. i am just saying that the manipulative power of art you rightly note can't be put so easily aside by the intellect, or repurposed simply via the willpower of the artist. of course none of this means that this issue shouldn't be tackled in song form. just that it's hard to do!

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5l3Lw0gSP8kFzZbZsK8uG3

podcast on the making of the album, includes a bunch of demos

ufo, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:38 (one year ago) link

lol the hold steady/springsteen version of "part of the band"

ufo, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 11:45 (one year ago) link

lmao "the 1975" started off as an electronic track (that sounded way more like lcd soundsystem but didn't yet have the piano) built around samples from that video of bjork disassembling a tv

ufo, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 12:25 (one year ago) link

how did it sound even more like lcd without the all my friends piano haha

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 12:29 (one year ago) link

it's at ~33:35 in the podcast, it's more like "someone great" or something than "all my friends" at that stage

& the piano came from a failed attempt at a steve reich-inspired version of the original "the 1975" for abiior!

ufo, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 12:34 (one year ago) link

matty knows balearic as "poolside"

ufo, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link

oh damn they play a demo for a completely unreleased song "this feeling" at 1:05:51 which was cut from the album at last minute because it reminded matty too much of his recent breakup. they promise it'll be released eventually though

ufo, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 13:04 (one year ago) link

"it's about time" slaps lmao

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

at the point in the podcast where matty says "fuck, maybe this is better??!"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

would pay good money for something like a the 1975 exploded demo box set

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link

I *just* listened to the Song Exploder on "The Birthday Party" and thought "I could listen to Matty and George talk about this kind of stuff all day"

alpine static, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

matty has said he wants to put out a demos collection at some point but matty also says a lot of shit that he doesn't get around to realising for one reason or another

ufo, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

matty is such an active participant in the mythos of his own band & of culture in general that i’m confident we’ll get expansive box sets or demo compilations of all these albums at some point

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 October 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link

just a month ago he was talking about wanting to put out a demos compilation covering their whole career in the near future, i'm sure it'll happen eventually (& will be a treasure trove) but idk if it'll be as soon as he was intending because he gets sidetracked so easily

ufo, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Tjr9ux8Wk

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link

anyone else going to mohegan sun in CT b/c the madison square garden show is stupid expensive?

adam, Thursday, 20 October 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

I'm seeing them at the same venue in Chicago as I did three years ago for probably 3x the price. Don't remember exactly what I paid then but it wasn't this.

Last minute of that Part of the Band video is lovely.

Indexed, Thursday, 20 October 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link

I saw them at the Aragon in ... 2016? United Center in 2019. Advantage of United Center is room for a bigger set/light rig, etc. Advantage of Aragon is smaller. Alas, don't know if I'll get to see them this time.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 October 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

anyone else going to mohegan sun in CT b/c the madison square garden show is stupid expensive?

― adam, Thursday, October 20, 2022 3:11 PM (two hours ago)

i'm thinking about it!

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 October 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

that Spotify "Tape Notes" interview is gold. i'd listen to that about every song they've ever recorded.

the bridge from the Benjamin Leftwich song bit! so interesting. and i totally thought the more electronic "The 1975" was cooler than the one that made the album.

alpine static, Thursday, 20 October 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

yeah that interview is a gold mine

k3vin k., Friday, 21 October 2022 02:48 (one year ago) link

yeah I need to go back and check their other episode (and maybe some others). and pls make a demos compilation, the 1975

Vinnie, Friday, 21 October 2022 11:07 (one year ago) link

the abiior episode isn't quite as good but still a worthwhile listen

ufo, Friday, 21 October 2022 11:49 (one year ago) link

OK, some thoughts, now that I've spent a bit more time with it. It's good, of course; I can't imagine these guys releasing a *bad* record at this point, just a redundant record, which this one *maybe* comes close to being, but not really to its detriment. Like I told one of my kids, the 1975 are always interesting and compelling, like what Harry Styles seems to be up to at his best if he weren't so dead set on playing it safe and boring. I can't wait to listen to the deep dive podcast or whatever it is, because I want to know how these songs evolved into that they are. I think "Part of the Band" remains a clear standout, I want to know how that one specifically grew into this form.

That said, I like horns on records, and specifically saxophone (hell, I love Springsteen), but I really hate how much this album leans on the sax as a sort of '80s signifier. Which of course the band has done before, but it feels a little annoying here, for some reason. I dunno, could be just me.

Oh, and "Looking for Somebody (To Love)," it finally clicked what it reminded me of: Warren Zevon's "Excitable Boy." Except that song is twisted and ott, and this one is very real, which makes it less cartoonish and more disturbing. And teeters on the brink of poor taste.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 October 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

They go into a lot of detail about "Part of the Band" on the podcast, so definitely give it a listen

Now having giving this album a few listens, it feels like it ends so fast. I mean, it's a pretty normal album length, just not for this band! The feeling is almost more like an EP. I don't think that's really a bad thing though, it just speaks to what a pleasant easy listen the album is

Vinnie, Saturday, 22 October 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

Yeah it feels like “Human Too” should be like a midsection pause for breath before the second half but instead you’re almost at the end.

Tim F, Saturday, 22 October 2022 00:51 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws13A_bHXkY

the "even more LCD" version of "The 1975" from BFIAFL

alpine static, Sunday, 30 October 2022 07:07 (one year ago) link

love this album so much

flopson, Sunday, 30 October 2022 08:16 (one year ago) link

So do I. After the last one I was hoping they would push it further into the electronic/garage direction, and while the "four guys playing in a room" thing of this one is the exact opposite of that, it was absolutely the correct move. This one is pure joy and it just breezes by.

Kind of obsessed with how subtle the drum track on "Human Too" is--the ghostly tambourine (or hi-hat?) taps that flit in and out, the shaker that lifts up the last chorus.

J. Sam, Sunday, 30 October 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

These guys have always, against all odds, been great with sonic nuance and subtlety.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 October 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

So is it true that the band - in North America, at least - will be "opening" for itself by playing the new album in full (in what would normally be the main support slot) and then playing a set of stuff from previous albums?

Has anyone else heard this?

alpine static, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:19 (one year ago) link

feel like matty mentioned this in that interview posted earlier

k3vin k., Friday, 4 November 2022 01:22 (one year ago) link

blackstarkids are opening for them. but he did say on IG that they had no “main support” whatever that means. the first show is happening as we speak so it won’t be a mystery for much longer

Black Star Kids are the only band playing with us on tour cos they are my favourite live band rn. And they play before us. And we play after. At 8.30. I don’t know how I managed to make this confusing https://t.co/WPhbtpkH1G

— Matty (@MatthewTHealy) November 2, 2022

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 November 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link

matty said stuff on instagram about them doing two sets, the first being the album in full,

ufo, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

from what i’m seeing they don’t quite do the new album in full but the set is heavily front loaded with new songs before they go into older stuff

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 November 2022 01:55 (one year ago) link

apparently they've promised to switch up the setlist every night

ufo, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:02 (one year ago) link

their stage layout is a house this time

or at least a living room and a roof lol

Murgatroid, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:17 (one year ago) link

review of tonight's setlist: they better play more from notes when i see them lol

ufo, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link

I mean, that second set looks pretty great to me. These dudes know what their bangers are ... you could tell that on past tours, too.

alpine static, Friday, 4 November 2022 04:28 (one year ago) link

fantastic show. super elaborate set and lighting, lots of cool choreography and blocking. crowd was bananas.

adam, Friday, 4 November 2022 11:56 (one year ago) link

do you think they were thinking "what would david byrne do" with the set

ufo, Friday, 4 November 2022 12:41 (one year ago) link

it was somehow less twee than that, like there was a lot of... interactivity and interplay between the set and lighting and band that gave it a narrative momentum that felt more sinister/funny than arch/whimsical

adam, Friday, 4 November 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

apparently Matty sat on the couch and smoked a cig at one point and it got the whole 1975 Reddit pregnant

alpine static, Friday, 4 November 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

Setlist looks great, all the songs I'd want to see from BFIAFL

Their episode of Tape Notes covering ABIIOR is definitely worth listening to. They go through some cool stems and demos, my favorite of which was a darker-sounding "It's Not Living". Would love to see them take that demo somewhere else

Vinnie, Friday, 4 November 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

FYI, their MSG show tonight is gonna be streamed on Amazon Music UK’s Twitch stream at 830pm est

thx Bezos

Murgatroid, Monday, 7 November 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

https://www.twitch.tv/amazonmusicuk

here's the link

ufo, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link

thanks ufo

i have to say, for a band that has always had its visual elements completely dialed in, this "living room" stage set is kinda corny and out of place.

alpine static, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 01:55 (one year ago) link

the audio is just constantly warping on this ... i don't think it's just me.

alpine static, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

the chat on this thing is wild. young ppl, man.

alpine static, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link

aloeveriamusic: hoping i catch one of their shows before matty gets full canceled

alpine static, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:15 (one year ago) link

audio sounds fine to me, you might just have a bad connection, or set the quality to 1080p instead of 'auto'

ufo, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:16 (one year ago) link

The 1975: plays a bunch of their songs

litz_425: this set is mental!

alpine static, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:23 (one year ago) link

otm

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link

this interlude is pretty goofy

ufo, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:33 (one year ago) link

ok they played “me & you together song” i can sleep tonight

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link

“give yourself a try” is an inspired choice for closer

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 8 November 2022 03:35 (one year ago) link

oh man, I saw them last night in Philly at this huge amphitheater and we managed to score pit tickets (which considering their fans was both a blessing and a curse), it was one of the most ambitious and conceptual and theatrical shows I've ever seen?? at one point Matty yelled WE ARE THE BEST BAND IN THE WORLD and it was like okay girl take a deep breath, but also... idk, it didn't feel as much of a stretch as it would have been if p much any other band had said it. they are certainly the most SOMETHING band in the world.

music for A★TEENS’ musicians (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

I def thought about "Stop Making Sense" multiple times

music for A★TEENS’ musicians (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

at one point Matty yelled WE ARE THE BEST BAND IN THE WORLD

lmao

flopson, Thursday, 10 November 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

The first time I saw them, behind the second album, it was pretty straight forward, albeit still great. The second time was behind "Brief History," and while it wasn't particularly conceptual, it was pretty impressive.
https://i.imgur.com/j2h7n6C.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 November 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

yeah i think personally i liked the colorful big video screens & visual/informational overload aesthetics of the i like it and brief inquiry tours... especially in the "very best" part of this show i think there's less to hold the eye. but also the way it was set up at MSG i was a bit off to the side as compared to how an amphitheater would be laid out so maybe some of the nuances of the set & show choreography were lost on me. i need to go back and watch the amazon stream. there was lots of fun bits tho and i liked the stuff they did w/ the various lighting fixtures. in particular i like how matty ends the show by climbing a light pole and, in the parlance of the band, shutting the big light off

J0rdan S., Thursday, 10 November 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

based on the amazon stream i think whatever sort of commentary on masculinity matty was aiming for kinda falls flat but there's still a lot to like about what they're going for here

do miss the bright lights information overload vibe but it's fine that they're doing something new.

ufo, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

Heh, I meant to say "Brief Inquiry," but you all know what I meant.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 November 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

they are certainly the most SOMETHING band in the world.

― music for A★TEENS’ musicians (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:33 (six hours ago) link

they are a voice of a generation

Tim F, Thursday, 10 November 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

What did you do? Screw up like the Beatles and say you were bigger than Jesus?

Vinnie, Friday, 11 November 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

Loving that MSG concert so far, have watched most of the BFIAFL songs. I don't find the set corny at all

Vinnie, Friday, 11 November 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link

i'm straight, but damn the bass player has really turned into a hot, strapping, hirsute dad vibe

alpine static, Friday, 11 November 2022 09:01 (one year ago) link

so maxwell frost the first gen z congressman from florida who tweeted that he was celebrating his win by going to see the 1975 in concert and then got shouted out by matty on stage revealed in pitchfork today that he's seen them live 13 times. i need him posting in this thread

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 November 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

I need to know if he's single.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 November 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

Alfred otm

Murgatroid, Thursday, 17 November 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

Show is in Los Angeles on Monday and still not sure if I'm going. The new album is mediocre at best. I do like it but my 1975 standards made for a disappointing album this time around. On top of that they released their best song first.

Bee OK, Thursday, 24 November 2022 03:49 (one year ago) link

This is the best band in the world right now. New album is not up to standard.

Bee OK, Thursday, 24 November 2022 03:51 (one year ago) link

the new one is growing on me. having my usual issues with limp ballad detours but I think I will end up loving them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkIqI05qAZI
matty’s hand gesture at 14:45 -_-

k3vin k., Thursday, 24 November 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link

Only thing I don't like about BFIAFL is how short it is. Even "Human Too", the worst track, has grown on me. Sequencing is wonderful too

I did a relisten of all their albums last week and now I'd pretty much rank albums 1, 2, 4 and 5 all around the same level of quality, which is to say superb, and album 3 only a little under that. Best band in the world

Vinnie, Thursday, 24 November 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

41253 for me at this point

k3vin k., Thursday, 24 November 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link

https://www.stereogum.com/2207084/the-1975-taylor-swift-midnights-matty-healy/news/

they did in fact work with swift a bit but she didn't end up using what they did

ufo, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

From last night's Los Angeles show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVNN22d9AvM

Bee OK, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link

Seeing them tonight. Is it accurate that there is no opener?

Indexed, Friday, 9 December 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

the opener on the current leg is blackstarkids iirc

ufo, Friday, 9 December 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

Seeing them tonight, too. Might get a poster, they look cool.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 December 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

See you there, Josh. I will be the only other dude over 35.

Indexed, Friday, 9 December 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

seeing them Monday! third time! would be fourth if not for Covid

Murgatroid, Friday, 9 December 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

xpost lol, the last time I saw them, at the United Center, there was no way my buddy and I were not the oldest ones there. We may as well have been invisible.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 December 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpwVm6x7cFI

lovely stripped down set, the tasteful sophisti-pop version of "paris" is better than the original

ufo, Saturday, 10 December 2022 06:00 (one year ago) link

The (justified) off the charts confidence of this band is really something else.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 December 2022 06:28 (one year ago) link

wow that version of “paris” is fantastic. and of “it’s
not living” too

J0rdan S., Sunday, 11 December 2022 08:55 (one year ago) link

The riff in "About You" reminds me of this song every time I hear it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcdOLKx2XG8

Indexed, Monday, 12 December 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

They brought out Carly Holt for About You tonight, beautiful moment even if I could barely hear her over the fans scream-singing around me

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 05:07 (one year ago) link

I was at the Denver show nearly a week ago now. Our show had the live (solo, acoustic) debut of "102" as well as an unplugged "Be My Mistake" crowd singalong. The band sounded fantastic. There are several extra musicians in the live band who really help the newer song arrangements to flourish.

I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 05:23 (one year ago) link

never a good sign when I get a random text from a friend asking if the singer of the 1975 is ok.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 December 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

No complaints about the Denver show.

"Alright, this is where we step is up, everybody. This is where the show goes from here... to here... and then we're gonna go to HERE..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNyg7O3jkN8

I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Ugh fuck whatever I give up, I’m on my phone

(they brought out Taylor tonight in London, hence the pic)

Murgatroid, Thursday, 12 January 2023 23:51 (one year ago) link

which of them has jumped the shark?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 January 2023 23:59 (one year ago) link

taylor has been in their orbit since the first album more or less… she was at their terminal 5 show in 2014

J0rdan S., Friday, 13 January 2023 00:08 (one year ago) link

there were even pervasive rumours that matty & taylor were dating for a little bit though there didn't actually seem to be any substance to that

ufo, Friday, 13 January 2023 00:09 (one year ago) link

📹| Along with “Anti-Hero” @taylorswift13 performed “The City” by @the1975! pic.twitter.com/CGmceEanpk

— Taylor Swift Updates ⏰ (@swifferupdates) January 12, 2023

paging brad

ufo, Friday, 13 January 2023 00:09 (one year ago) link

in a depression spiral about this rn

how could i possibly not be there

uberweiss, Friday, 13 January 2023 00:13 (one year ago) link

lol totally forgot they share a producer, too, so all makes sense.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 January 2023 00:13 (one year ago) link

yeah matty said recently they did something on midnights but it got cut

J0rdan S., Friday, 13 January 2023 00:14 (one year ago) link

before bfiafl came out i was half expecting her to show up on backing vocals somewhere

ufo, Friday, 13 January 2023 00:18 (one year ago) link

I thought she might too, given the Antonoff connection and how they've expressed admiration for each other in the past

Vinnie, Friday, 13 January 2023 00:46 (one year ago) link

taylor’s cover of “the city” sounded quite nice

J0rdan S., Friday, 13 January 2023 00:59 (one year ago) link

Oh damn why did I go to the brighton show instead of that one

another video of her covering "the city": https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnWXtJcgJ4Q/

needless to say this has ruined my life

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 13 January 2023 14:21 (one year ago) link

Fantastic.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 January 2023 14:27 (one year ago) link

So cool.

Did the stage design get a lot more elaborate mid-tour, or did I just not notice all the pictures and such on the walls at the show I went to? There definitely wasn't a spiral staircase...

Indexed, Friday, 13 January 2023 14:54 (one year ago) link

She sings it like she could've have written it.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 January 2023 14:58 (one year ago) link

xpost There have been a few tweaks here and there, but I think it's been like that for a while. The Chicago show, because it was in a smaller venue, couldn't fit the whole thing, which is also why the band abandoned some of the conceptual stuff for the night.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 January 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

Ah got it, thanks.

otm Alfred

Indexed, Friday, 13 January 2023 15:02 (one year ago) link

This brings back memories of her solo acoustic mini-set on the Fearless tour. Still one of the best songs of 2022, full stop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Np4zzWu_g

I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Friday, 13 January 2023 15:21 (one year ago) link

ugh

Indexed, Friday, 13 January 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiBgOhG-Ryo

this has her full performance

ufo, Friday, 13 January 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

They currently have the New York show on Amazon Prime at the moment and going to watch it this weekend. Excited to see it as I normally don't have Prime.

Bee OK, Friday, 13 January 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link

We clearly chose the wrong London night to go to but having (deliberately) not read anything about the show in advance I was pretty much blown away by it. The stretch from fallingforyou through When We Are Together was perfect.

toby, Saturday, 14 January 2023 09:43 (one year ago) link

Was able to watch their concert on Amazon Prime this last weekend. Loved the second half with all their hits.

They also just released one song from that same show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28Lj4qt3lCc

Bee OK, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 04:05 (one year ago) link

his band mate was like nope not tonight pic.twitter.com/PF0Zri8R4W

— sippin on that (@vivafalastin) January 25, 2023

Indexed, Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:15 (one year ago) link

lol, that's a bit, he did it at the Chicago show too.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link

only thing i can say is that 1975 was a good year for music.

CerebralCaustic, Friday, 27 January 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link

wow! they need to do this in new york…

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2023 22:42 (one year ago) link

yeah if they do that anywhere within a state of me ill go

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 22:44 (one year ago) link

wow

k3vin k., Wednesday, 1 February 2023 23:40 (one year ago) link

My only complaint with that setlist is all the A+ songs the band had to remove to make room for the debut.

I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link

if this band ever gets to a Wilco-style stage where they play 5 nights somewhere with no repeats, i'm so there

alpine static, Thursday, 2 February 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKD2WfNtWeQ

here's the full debut album show

ufo, Friday, 3 February 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link

It took me until now to notice that in "Wintering" Matty rhymes "old" with "old," which either means it's skillfully done or I'm exceptionally slow.

J. Sam, Monday, 13 February 2023 14:09 (one year ago) link

I love how Matty plays the guitar as if he just noticed it strapped to his shoulder.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 February 2023 14:13 (one year ago) link

i know this is a well-worn sentiment at this point - and to each their own and all that - but i can't believe someone stood at that spot at that show and filmed for 90 minutes. i feel sad for them, if i'm honest.

alpine static, Monday, 13 February 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link

surprised this revive wasn’t about that podcast thing (which I have not listened to)

k3vin k., Monday, 13 February 2023 23:26 (one year ago) link

this edgelord phase is exhausting and embarrassing

ufo, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 03:01 (one year ago) link

listening now these guys are all stupid assholes wow

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 03:30 (one year ago) link

is this still about cumtown

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 03:35 (one year ago) link

he's beefing with yungblud because yungblud took issue with the cumtown appearance and it's deeply embarrassing

ufo, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 03:47 (one year ago) link

oh c’mon the video he posted of yungblud sitting on a toilet onstage while reading a book w/ the caption “i feel partly responsible for this” was pretty funny

i pointedly ignore matty’s amateur podcasting career & i would suggest everyone joins me. that having been said, i can see why yungblud speaking out against him rankles him in particular and you can see matty’s argument as to why in the video, even if it’s childish on the surface

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 February 2023 03:59 (one year ago) link

yes, I ignore all of Matty's extracurriculars and all of yungblud's everything, it's worked out well so far

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 05:24 (one year ago) link

Knowing more about Yungblud than Cum Town is not the high ground you think it is haha

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 05:30 (one year ago) link

not sure who you're talking to here but I assure you I don't give a shit about which ground I'm on here

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 12:59 (one year ago) link

why ignore who this guy really is? I have no idea who Yungblud is.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 13:13 (one year ago) link

About You (from the last album) is the best song I’ve ever heard by them. Hope whatsisnuts doesn’t turn into Russell Brand.

piscesx, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link

he's got that big ego + semi-smart + huge cult following, high risk factors

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link

the part of the podcast where they yuk it up to a "sowwwy" racist "asian accent" was pretty vile

wasn’t gonna post these but fuck it, these were taken around 24 hours before that garbage podcast episode went up. matty healy how can you go about being nice & friendly to my face and then turn around the next day to join your bros and laugh along racist remarks of my identity? pic.twitter.com/SihF9SP4mP

— 𝚍𝚊𝚗𝚒𝚌𝚊 🌻 (@LOVEINTHEGLASS) February 12, 2023

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link

yeah I remember a Healy complaint along the lines of “rappers are the only stars who are allowed to be masculine these days” and it felt like a little reactionary tremor

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

good but kinda weird show tonight. they didn't have the set with the house (i assume logistical constraints) and matty began by explaining that the show was not the "at their very best" show as advertised and was instead "a theatrical performance of an intimate moment" (i think?) and opened with "be my mistake" alone before doing the whole drinking/smoking routine he'd been doing in the middle of the "at their very best" show except he didn't even try to maintain character, seemed to be some weird meta-commentary on the previous tour legs?

then they did "looking for somebody (to love)" and it was just a regular show with no further gimmicks. setlist sequencing was kinda all over the place & i wish they did more from the last two albums - they didn't even do "part of the band" or the new "the 1975" & they played more from abiior than bfiafl. we at least got "tonight" (which sounded wonderful) as well as "if you're too shy" from notes, but other shows recently got "me & you together song", "roadkill" and "the birthday party" too so i'm a little disappointed there. they've really levelled up as a live band with the expanded lineup at least - the new "paris" arrangement is gorgeous and they've finally figured out how to play "ugh!" properly live (previous live recordings i'd heard never seemed to do it justice).

unfortunately felt a bit too reminiscent of their show from the abiior tour overall at times with how many they played from that album, & most of the same old hits as before.

some top tier stage banter from matty too: apparently there's a meme going around comparing him to 'the rat from flushed away' so he revealed that his godfather co-wrote flushed away & actually somewhat based that character on him?

ufo, Saturday, 15 April 2023 13:28 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

I couldn’t care less who Matty is dating but it does concern me that the band will continue to be in Jack Antonoff’s sphere for the ongoing future

Murgatroid, Saturday, 6 May 2023 04:18 (eleven months ago) link

not inclined to put a lot of stock in that story until there's solid evidence given false rumours of them dating were already a thing in the press like a decade ago, before they'd even met lol

ufo, Saturday, 6 May 2023 04:34 (eleven months ago) link

he was apparently at her show in Nashville last night

Murgatroid, Saturday, 6 May 2023 13:10 (eleven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I thought this was pretty good:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/06/05/who-is-matty-healy

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 17:35 (ten months ago) link

yeah that's a good piece though i kinda wish it'd gotten more out of him re: the podcast

he definitely underestimated swifties though with this though lol:

But it doesn’t actually matter. Nobody is sitting there at night slumped at their computer, and their boyfriend comes over and goes, ‘What’s wrong, darling?’ and they go, ‘It’s just this thing with Matty Healy.’ That doesn’t happen.

ufo, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:09 (ten months ago) link

lol Azealia Banks has now gotten involved in whatever's going on via IG stories (as usual)

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 20:19 (ten months ago) link

James Mercer has gotten dragged into this! or i got fooled by someone's photoshop job...

alpine static, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 22:20 (ten months ago) link

https://www.tmz.com/2023/06/05/taylor-swift-matty-healy-break-up-split/

noooo

k3vin k., Monday, 5 June 2023 18:44 (ten months ago) link

longest three weeks of my life

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 June 2023 18:45 (ten months ago) link

I won't sleep tonight

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 June 2023 19:26 (ten months ago) link

I guess she was just too controversial for him.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:46 (ten months ago) link

really looking forward to all of Matty's future lyrics about being cancelled by swifties

Tim F, Monday, 5 June 2023 23:54 (ten months ago) link

"Give Myself a Try" (audio verite mix)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 00:21 (ten months ago) link

the next 1975 album is gonna be so good

imago, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 07:52 (ten months ago) link

"Give Myself a Try"

he no doubt has

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 08:28 (ten months ago) link

potentially walking into a minefield here but can someone sum up his appearance on the podcast fka as Cum Town which I will never listen to and lmk why everyone (Swifties and a lot of non-Swifties too) think he's racist

just a summary thx

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 15:31 (ten months ago) link

iirc he made jokes at the expense of Ice Spice and attempted to mimic a few accents he really shouldn't have mimicked. but I've never listened to that podcast, either. Plus his current persona is just general all-around edgelord asshat, so he's been inviting pushback/misunderstanding/controversy. In other words, the joke is on us, maaaaaaaaaan.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 15:44 (ten months ago) link

I wonder what the 1975 would be like with a more conventional frontman

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 15:49 (ten months ago) link

completely different!

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 June 2023 15:50 (ten months ago) link

I also have not listened to the podcast nor have the desire to, but my understanding was that matty laughed along rather than made the impressions himself

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 June 2023 15:53 (ten months ago) link

well yeah, completely different but I like them enough musically that if they were to one day tell Matty to eff off, I would still be curious enough to give the 1975 without Matty a try sorry sorry sorry

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 15:54 (ten months ago) link

the crucial bit of that interview:

I asked him about the podcast. He’d been doing so much promo, he told me, that he wanted to do something that felt more like simply talking with his friends. But, of course, he had done this all in public, on mike. Had he baited his fans on purpose? “A little bit,” he said. “But it doesn’t actually matter."

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 16:01 (ten months ago) link

Healey seem like such a clear example of somebody who fans are gonna defend because he's, you know, complicated, and Jia gives him plenty of room for that self-portrait.

But I mean, the various people of color I follow online have absolutely no patience for this shit, and why should they? He's a racist, Swift is showing us who she is, none of this is in the least complicated: I paraphrase the perspective from non-pop music fans.with no particular iinterest in celebrity gossip. The whole thing is just another episode of White Folks Not Owning Their Racism. Should I tell them "no, read Jia's piece, he's complicated?"

gucci meme (theStalePrince), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 16:59 (ten months ago) link

“the various people of color i follow online” sounds like a scrapped matty lyric so you two may have more in common than you think… (he is probably a better editor tho)

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 6 June 2023 17:07 (ten months ago) link

Well, Jordan, I could define them for you in whatever more detailed demographic terms you'd prefer--maybe a chart?

gucci meme (theStalePrince), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 17:16 (ten months ago) link

jord you gonna run the streaming numbers so we can get to the bottom of this?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 17:27 (ten months ago) link

uh, what seems to have people most upset is his story about masturbating to an apparently deeply gross porn site called ghetto gaggers which saw described as 'white men humiliating and sexually dominating Black women — physical violence coupled with jokes about poverty, welfare, slavery, putting nooses on women, etc.'

H in Addis, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 19:11 (ten months ago) link

Yes. Gross isn’t the word for that website. Evil.

treeship., Tuesday, 6 June 2023 19:13 (ten months ago) link

Again, it’s not just a “depiction” of this. It’s also not “kink.” There are real women who are victims of this website. Plenty of testimonials online from people who were victimized on the set of this company’s videos.

treeship., Tuesday, 6 June 2023 19:17 (ten months ago) link

what seems to have people most upset is his story about masturbating to an apparently deeply gross porn site called ghetto gaggers

which in context was definitely not serious, one of the cum town guys started telling a story about matty including that detail, and he went along with it. not a funny bit at all but no one's takeaway should be 'matty is sincerely into racist abusive porn'

i think all this shit sucks, matty crossed some lines and rightfully seems to regret it, but the game of telephone with swifties has also been completely ridiculous

ufo, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 21:41 (ten months ago) link

they announced another north american arena tour for the fall... i don't think matty is purely cynical enough to date the most famous pop star in the world just weeks before they have to sell hundreds of thousands of new tickets, some of them in large venues they just played months ago but........

if anything this tour does mile mark the new level of popularity that they've hit... playing arenas in places like charlotte, tampa, kansas city, salt lake city, sacramento etc... the biggest venues in these cities outside of stadiums. in some cities like boston, nashville, pittsburgh they're stepping up from 4-6k cap theaters or mini-arenas to the full on 20k cap basketball/hockey venues. all after, commercially speaking, their least successful album in a half-decade! the power of matty's own celebrity is very strong, almost feels like a self-fulfilling prophecy in a way

maybe it means a new album too. they'll have been on the road for so long that i kinda doubt it but you never know w/ them. i'll be there of course but i'm not necessarily dying to see the very best show again...

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:33 (ten months ago) link

yeah, they've never disappointed live but not sure I wanna go see them again this go-round if they're not gonna have a new album behind it

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:47 (ten months ago) link

it’s been rumored for years they have a drive like i do album in the tank and i demand they release it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:50 (ten months ago) link

lmao blogto gonna blogto https://www.blogto.com/music/2023/06/band-fronted-taylor-swifts-controversial-ex-coming-toronto/

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 16:34 (ten months ago) link

One of the local stations that never used to play the 1975 played "Part of the Band" a bunch before the album came out, and I still heard it occasionally a while after. But I haven't heard them play it for months, and I've never heard this station play anything else by the band. Maybe they were just dipping a toe in, and decided it ultimately wasn't for them?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 16:49 (ten months ago) link

last year matty talked about the drive like i do album - iirc he said he'd recorded a bunch of stuff but most of it wasn't quite finished and it was only an EP's worth because some of the songs originally written for it elsewhere - "wintering" was from it, and "pictures of us" from beabadoobee's album

they've been working on a new album while on tour again this year but i doubt it'll be out this year. maybe we get a new single if they're really excited by something idk. i think the new tour leg is just them touring obsessively like always & realising they can just play arenas everywhere now - i don't think they quite realised how big they were when booking the previous legs and played smaller venues than they could have

ufo, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:55 (ten months ago) link

*some of the songs originally written for it ended up elsewhere

ufo, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:55 (ten months ago) link

this tour will be my first time seeing them. super pumped

flopson, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 18:01 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

that is definitely sort of the dumbass stunt matty would do

ufo, Saturday, 22 July 2023 20:01 (nine months ago) link

lmao

k3vin k., Saturday, 22 July 2023 22:35 (nine months ago) link

best thing he’s done in months

ivy., Saturday, 22 July 2023 22:50 (nine months ago) link

no it really, really, really isn't. some context that couldn't fit into that straightforward news story upthread (that I wrote btw): 

- The current ostensibly center-left, multi-ethnic government in Malaysia is only in power after having to team up with the corrupt, racist, ethno-nationalist party that was previously in charge. Their opposition: a slightly less corrupt but even more racist, ethno-nationalist alliance powered by an Islamist party whose long-term goal is to establish an Islamic state. That party currently has the largest number of seats in parliament, and were ultimately the biggest winner of last year's election - they just didn't have enough for a majority. 
- Despite claiming to be anti-West, Malaysia's Muslim hardliners pick up all of their cues and talking points from the U.S. right-wing, and so, like in the U.S., queer identity and politics are currently a major part of our culture wars. The difference is, in Malaysia, both sides are trying to out-Islam the other in order to appeal to the majority of the voting public, who are Malay and Muslim. LGBT groups here have zero political power and the few activists we have do their work at great cost and great risk to their lives, and it's only gotten harder in recent years as the community faces greater scrutiny, legal barriers and penalties (e.g. several states in the past few years have introduced Islamic laws against cross-dressing, which is punishable by caning). The LGBT communities here have worked hard to carve out spaces for themselves including at music festivals like the one that was just cancelled, which was still allowed to invite queer artists (like NOT The fucking 1975) to perform. 
- This creeping Islamisation, a process that has been going on for nearly half a century, has had a massive impact on live music and public performances in general. Foreign artists coming to perform here have to comply with strict rules on everything from dress code to conduct, and most of it is ridiculous (Beyonce is permanently banned. Kpop boybands are not allowed to have meet and greets where they hug fans. Rock frontmen can't perform shirtless. Absolutely NO kissing, same-sex or otherwise. Etc.). This means that international artists tend to skip KL entirely when they go on their Asian tours. It's become a running joke that whenever we see tour line-ups, it's always: Singapore, Bangkok, Jakarta, Manila... but no KL. Again, event organisers try to do what they can to protect and grow the spaces they have, but it's not an easy or quick process. 
- We have regional elections coming up next month. Remember what I said about the current government? They're expected to lose badly, partly because of relentless attacks by the opposition that it hasn't done enough to protect Malaysian Muslims. And how has the government responded to these attacks? By doubling down on the LGBT community, tightening rules for foreign performers, and trying to burnish their own Islamic credentials. 

Now I don't expect Matty or the band to know most or even any of this - why should they anyway? But just a tiny bit of thoughtfulness, a little reading, maybe actually speaking to queer activists here would've gone a long way. At another time, their stupid little stunt, which nobody fucking asked for, might have made the news cycle for a day - there would have been some initial blowback, but the festival prob would've issued a boilerplate apology and gone on ahead without much other repercussions.

But because of everything else that has been happening, it's now going to become a major talking point for weeks to come for the hardliners, who see this as just another failure of the "liberal' government to protect the public from "Western ideas". And for the authorities, who will see this as just another excuse to clamp down on gay people and public performances. His reckless troll bullshit has real world consequences. 

What Matty did has done absolutely nothing good for queer communities OR music fans in Malaysia. All it did was set back YEARS of hard work, empowered the hardliners, and put queer people and artists here at greater risk while the band get to fuck off and enjoy their lives elsewhere. But yay, a white guy (who's given the Nazi salute and admitted to watching degrading, sexist, racist, porn) spoke up for gay people in a little authoritarian country! And called the government a slur! Good for them! 

And before anyone else chimes in with "well, maybe the problem is not the 1975, but your authoritarian government"?  Yeah, no shit Sherlock. That's our problem to deal with, not yours.

anyway, fuck Matty Healy and this band and their fucking shitty music. 

Roz, Sunday, 23 July 2023 04:42 (nine months ago) link

i completely agree about this incident but lol are we really doing this shit again ("who's given the Nazi salute and admitted to watching degrading, sexist, racist, porn")

ufo, Sunday, 23 July 2023 04:54 (nine months ago) link

i don't care if he wasn't sincere about that shit. he isn't sincere about fucking anything, including the gay people he claims to be speaking up for

Roz, Sunday, 23 July 2023 04:57 (nine months ago) link

Thank you, Roz

StanM, Sunday, 23 July 2023 04:59 (nine months ago) link

it's also been disheartening btw to see that even though I included the POV of a local queer activist in my story, some US outlets that picked it up or parts of it chose to cut out the quote entirely (ahem the NYT, most egregiously). Sorry if it's inconvenient to recognise that speaking up doesn't always have the impact intended, and can sometimes cause more harm than good.

Roz, Sunday, 23 July 2023 05:13 (nine months ago) link

i don't think this stunt was insincere, matty being well-meaning but a gigantic dumbass with no understanding of context or consequences is a running theme. he absolutely should have known better and it is particularly egregious given that he pulled a similar stunt a few years ago in dubai and then later publicly reflected that it was a bad idea, despite it not going as obviously badly as it did this time.

ufo, Sunday, 23 July 2023 05:21 (nine months ago) link

sorry to hear that the american press are being shitty in covering it too

ufo, Sunday, 23 July 2023 05:22 (nine months ago) link

xpost well that, plus the 1975 has played in Malaysia before at the exact same festival a few years ago - they and their management were perfectly aware of the performance rules here. So even though matty had been acting out in public recently, the organisers didn't think twice about inviting them again because it hadn't been a problem the first time. 

anyway, they've canceled their next two shows: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk-band-1975-cancels-indonesia-taiwan-shows-after-malaysia-lgbt-controversy-2023-07-23/

Roz, Sunday, 23 July 2023 05:33 (nine months ago) link

While being shitty often seems to be the NYTimes house policy, they did keep the paragraph about LGBT activists accusing Healey of “performative activism” and saying “his action was likely to expose the community to more stigma and discrimination”—so I think the point is still made.

Anyway, as Healey is British, I was curious how the BBC covered it. They quote a festival director talking about how the stunt hurts “the fans(…), the festival organisers and, you know, I think the industry as a whole”—but unfortunately do not touch on the larger point that Roz’s reporting conveys.

Empty Tushy Fills (morrisp), Sunday, 23 July 2023 06:44 (nine months ago) link

(Whoops—apologies to Healy for misspelling his name in my post, though he seems like a heel however you spell it.)

Empty Tushy Fills (morrisp), Sunday, 23 July 2023 06:47 (nine months ago) link

ok sorry

ivy., Sunday, 23 July 2023 07:58 (nine months ago) link

<3 roz

mookieproof, Monday, 24 July 2023 06:05 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Iirc Matty Healy no longer has a corporate role at Dirty Hit, right?

More ominous to me is the band's apparent desire to tour themselves into the ground. They played here and Milwaukee in December 2022, then just a few weeks ago at Lollapalooza, then coming back to Milwaukee and Chicago area in October. That's a lot behind one album.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 August 2023 15:37 (eight months ago) link

they tour a ridiculous amount but if anything they've been relatively restrained this year with only ~110 shows (including the rest of this year's schedule) compared to the 204 shows they played in 2014 for example

ufo, Monday, 21 August 2023 21:33 (eight months ago) link

that’s how you pay the bills these days idk

k3vin k., Thursday, 24 August 2023 01:38 (eight months ago) link

xxp I thought the same thing. Friend who missed the first show asked if I wanted to go to this one. It's at Allstate, which I'd guess is, what...twice as big as Aragon? I was surprised.

Indexed, Thursday, 24 August 2023 13:57 (eight months ago) link

They sold out the United Center in 2018 or whenever, and that's bigger than Allstate.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 August 2023 13:59 (eight months ago) link

I’ve been waiting for “Sad Mile,” from Mousetrap, to be discovered for a soundtrack or something…

Clientless (Scooter's Version) (morrisp), Thursday, 24 August 2023 14:01 (eight months ago) link

Wrong thread sorry

Clientless (Scooter's Version) (morrisp), Thursday, 24 August 2023 14:02 (eight months ago) link

xxp Ah, I had no idea. Interesting.

Indexed, Thursday, 24 August 2023 14:33 (eight months ago) link

three weeks pass...

every the 1975 song pic.twitter.com/vgkVw6NbXB

— jillkrajewski.bsky.social (@JillKrajewski) September 17, 2023

flopson, Monday, 18 September 2023 01:59 (seven months ago) link

No lies told

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 September 2023 04:03 (seven months ago) link

That is excellent

Indexed, Monday, 18 September 2023 14:51 (seven months ago) link

lmao

you don’t hear from me at all https://t.co/jKTwO0ehcX

— Lucy Dacus (@lucydacus) September 21, 2023

Murgatroid, Thursday, 21 September 2023 17:32 (seven months ago) link

that isn't quite the epic clapback twitter is making it. It's just like an affirmation of Healy's punchline.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 September 2023 17:37 (seven months ago) link

it was enough for him to deactivate his account though lol

Roz, Friday, 22 September 2023 01:44 (seven months ago) link

fully expecting the next album to be the worst thing ever if he hasn't gotten over this idiot edgelord phase

ufo, Friday, 22 September 2023 03:10 (seven months ago) link

he's deactivated and reactivated a million times tbf

Murgatroid, Friday, 22 September 2023 03:30 (seven months ago) link

The Ben Dreyfuss of pop.

Chris L, Friday, 22 September 2023 08:00 (seven months ago) link

apparently taking an indefinite hiatus from touring after this latest tour but Matty says a lot of shit so I'm taking it with a grain of salt

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 17:31 (six months ago) link

Doesn't every band take an indefinite hiatus between tours?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 17:34 (six months ago) link

Next album: An Indefinite Hiatus from Touring.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 17:35 (six months ago) link

A Momentary Lapse of Touring.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 17:44 (six months ago) link

A Brief Deletion of Social Media Accounts

Vinnie, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 23:24 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

Way back when my daughter bought a couple of tickets to see the Milwaukee show tomorrow. She can't go, so gave the tickets to me. I don't feel like driving up there, and people are selling tickets for the single digits (maybe in part because they subsequently added a Chicago show), so I can't get rid of these tickets, either. Oh well.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 October 2023 18:35 (five months ago) link

I'd normally be game but saw them the last time they came through. Hope you can find some way to use them.

Indexed, Friday, 27 October 2023 19:01 (five months ago) link

As a lesson to my daughter not to just spend money on things she won't use.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 October 2023 19:05 (five months ago) link

this audio sucks but i love them playing "so far (it's alright)" ... a song that has a very special place in my heart for briefly imagining a collaboration between them & dj koze

So Far (It's Alright) Live in Milwaukee#The1975 pic.twitter.com/bsheSp3kWF

— The 1975 (@the1975) November 2, 2023

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:33 (five months ago) link

looking thru their setlist.fm stats & they've never played "the birthday party" on american soil. that doesn't sit right with me

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:37 (five months ago) link

they put out the MSG live show from earlier this year as an album on streaming

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 17:57 (five months ago) link

they released more tickets for their previously sold-out show here and ngl I was tempted to go but I really shouldn't spend three digits on a show that's more or less the same show they played less than a year ago

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 18:04 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

the best band

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 02:13 (three months ago) link

getting re-obsessed with “102” lately

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 02:13 (three months ago) link

and their last album is actually a classic I’m afraid to tell the haters. the lads had done it again and it was we who were ignorant

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 02:14 (three months ago) link

“Oh Caroline” is a huge jam

brimstead, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 02:16 (three months ago) link

omg taylor swift offered them an opening spot on her tour but they declined I DON'T THINK I COULD EVEN HAVE PHYSICALLY HANDLED THAT BUT OMG IMAGINE

― uberweiss, Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:52 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

!!

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 03:15 (three months ago) link

What is “102”?

Tim F, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 04:24 (three months ago) link

a brief inquiry's japanese bonus track. just an acoustic ballad

ufo, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 04:39 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLrqm8F7TgM

matty wrote this when he was 15!

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 18:43 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZvF2YEkA_Q

love this performance of this song

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 05:14 (three months ago) link

Wow! Great application of the "Being Funny" arrangement style to that tune IMO. The only boy band that matters, ha

If I luge, if I luge, if I luge you on the track (Craig D.), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 15:54 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

new song from some Apple+ TV show is gorgeous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37ZFDJgVa0w

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 17:37 (two months ago) link

i need an album by the 1975 focused in this vibe. unfortunately, that will never happen.

Nourry, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 19:01 (two months ago) link

self titled expanded edition -core, nice

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 21:51 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

https://soundcloud.com/matty-452970975/loads-of-crisps

full release of a demo from the notes sessions that matty teased on instagram ages ago

ufo, Friday, 29 March 2024 21:20 (three weeks ago) link

yeah this rules

brony james (k3vin k.), Friday, 29 March 2024 21:47 (three weeks ago) link


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