POLLy Jean Harvey - The PJ Harvey results thread

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BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

Just albums tonight, I'll start the tracks off tomorrow

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

In joint tenth place with a mere six votes each:
A Woman A Man Walked By
Dance Hall At Louse
The Peel Sessions 1991-2004

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

she looks so immaculate & polished on that photo. fortunately her music is something else entirely.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

9. Uh Huh Her (2004) - 8 points, 3 votes
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001XQ8E8.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Not a very popular one this. I have to say I don't think I'd listened to it at all for about 8 years until getting ready for this poll. Three or four tracks I like, but nothing special.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

look at her
pretty shoulder/gnarly shoulder <3 <3 <3

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

Title + haircut put me off quite a lot

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

even the best tracks sound bored and disconnected. like she's all "shit, time to record another one."

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

singularly hideous album cover too

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

8. 4-Track Demos (1993) - 40 points, 1 first place, 8 votes
http://ukrmedia.biz/images/products/4track_demos_lightbox3_lightbox.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

xp - cmon, "who the fuck" is great
the video is cute too -- she's dancing around an apt in her undies
fuiud
also i like her haircut

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

yeah see that's how you dgaf

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

About Uh-Huh Her: I voted for this one. It has the songs, she just chose to record them in an odd way. No Child Of Mine remains one of the catchier things she's ever done.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

4-Track Demos is my no.1. I like nearly all of it more than Rid Of Me.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

Uh Huh Her has got some classic tracks on it, but it just doesn't gel as well as we'd come to expect from her.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

7. White Chalk (2007) - 48 points, 13 votes
http://cdn4.pitchfork.com/albums/10501/homepage_large.2cdfc67a.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

love that angora bra thing from the 4 track demos cover
AND the white chalk cover is so beautiful and that dress makes me want to scream it's so pretty
she always has the best clothes! i love her styling through the years -- she doesn't get enough credit for sheer variety of looks.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

UHH and WC placing exactly where they need to be.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

4-Track Demos is my no.1. I like nearly all of it more than Rid Of Me.

i go back and forth. the demos are intimate and seem to capture more vocal nuance, but i love the meaty physicality of the albini drums. take "rid of me" (the song): i prefer the verses and the more balanced mix on the 4-trk version, but damn, the studio version's chorus just destroys. "yuri-g" is another case where the song is fantastic in both versions, and i can't pick a favorite.

4-trk does have "easy" and "reeling". can't imagine why those didn't make it to rom.

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

lecha otm: white chalk photo & style are lovely (and rather baleful)

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

this is one of those where I legitimately have no good guess as to the order in which the top three or four albums will place.

i push more weight than giles corey (Pillbox), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

xp 4-Track demos is better than a lot below it, as is Demonstration, the equivalent album for Dry, but they kinda don't count.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

Stories from the City better be next.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

UHH and WC placing exactly where they need to be.

white chalk is her best record. then again i didn't vote.

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

It's got its cult.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

Many may have already seen this -- wicked outfit and a bitchin' guitar (anybody know what kind it is?).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMwWP2Rr5JE

bodacious ignoramus, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

What's Demonstration? I have a sudden vague memory of Dry coming in a two-disc version, which I didn't buy.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

6. Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea (2000) - 66 points, 2 first places, 10 votes
http://www.albumoftheyear.org/album/covers/stories-from-the-city-stories-from-the-sea.jpg

Surprised to see this so low, to be honest.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

I'm regretting not voting for "4 Track Demos" now ... it's always been hard for me to separate it from "Rid of Me", the two of them together kind of make up a complete set. I actually bought it before RoM and didn't hear RoM in it's entirety until several months later.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

white chalk is an album i wouldn't have expected from her. it's so intimate and she seems so vulnerable on it. i quite like it as it is different. most songs have got a frightening, harrowing quality to them. a very intense album, i rated it higher.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

What's Demonstration? I have a sudden vague memory of Dry coming in a two-disc version, which I didn't buy.

Yeah, early copies came with an extra disc called Demonstration. I got it on vinyl - probably my favourite record/object I own. It's basically the demos for Dry, which I think were the tapes that got her signed in the first place.

Here's Oh My Lover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqwVCOuQK6w

And Dress:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzYhPEEmzaY

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

a little surprised to see stories that low until i stop to think what it could've possibly beaten (w/ a different sample group it might've beaten is this desire? but that sure as fuck wasn't happening here)

balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

SFTC.. is a flawed album w/ a handful of incredible high points.

i push more weight than giles corey (Pillbox), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

xpost It's an Airline guitar, prolly from the 60s (not a reissue). I believe Jack White is a fan.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

Very surprised to see the next one so low as well...

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

5. Dry (1992) - 122 points, 6 first places, 17 votes
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nsCT3EFoxK8/SSqlvEhwW8I/AAAAAAAAA0g/WBxppmlWqIg/s320/PJ+Harvey+-+Dry-1992.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that's crazy but somebody in that top five had to be #5, i get to keep on thinking let england shake is a little overrated though

balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, not a huge surprise, though it deserves better. rom & les were shoo-ins, and the tbyml/isd backers seem p dedicated.

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

Dry is a cracking first draft, but not at all ridiculous to conclude she's made four better ones

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

i guess it has to do with the fact tat most people who voted probably were not around at the time. from my pov definitely her best album, very song is a killer. so much energy plus great tunes and a pretty perfect, dry production.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

I thought "Dry" might win ... other albums had their backers but "Dry" seemed to be the album that everybody liked

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

every song a killer...

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

I was around at the time and I didn't feel the need to buy a PJ Harvey album until TBYML

I didn't vote tho

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

4. Is This Desire? (1998) - 124 points, 4 first places, 21 votes
http://merlin.pl/Is-This-Desire_PJ-Harvey,images_big,26,5245632.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

only on ILM! yay!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

I was around at the time and have vinyl Dry somewhere, but am now really regretting not shelling out for the double-disc. (memory says it might've been in indie shops only, which is a pretty poor show Chain With No Name, if you're reading)

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

yeah there could be a gulf in perspective between ppl for who whom dry was first contact w/ huge impact and ppl for whom it was just 'the early stuff' or whatever

balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

ITD really made folks in my neck of the woods go "whaaaa...?" in '98. Certainly it sounded like a holding pattern compared to its predecessors. It didn't grab me until three years later.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

i am still hoping that to bring you my love might win this but that is probably a delusion.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

Dry was my number one by a mile (and obviously the first one I heard).

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

No chance xp

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

Many may have already seen this -- wicked outfit and a bitchin' guitar (anybody know what kind it is?).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_(guitar) or later copy

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

i loved it but was slightly disappointed, i think 'broken homes' earlier that year had probably warped my expectations

balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

3. To Bring You Love (1995) - 128 points, 3 first places, 22 votes
http://images1.makefive.com/images/entertainment/music/greatest-rock-records-of-all-time/pj-harvey---to-bring-you-my-love-7.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

"Teclo" opened this album for me.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

of course. but can we do that again with corret title plus cover art?

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

sorry, there is the cover out of nowhere...

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

Re: Airline Guitars-Jimmy Reed was also fan in his post Vee Jay years

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

but can we do that again with corret title plus cover art?
OK - To Bring You My Love

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

2. Let England Shake (2011) - 132 points, 3 first places, 21 votes
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Pjharveyletenglandshake.jpg/220px-Pjharveyletenglandshake.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

Can you correct the no.10 while you're at it?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

1. Rid of Me (1993) - 170 points, 10 first places, 22 votes
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ViblFdHNGDo/T6OrP2h37RI/AAAAAAAADgw/_nbZIB0d9SU/s1600/pj+harvey+rid+of+me.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't vote for it, but can't argue with that landslide

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

Lots of people were saying before the poll that it would be interesting because there was no real consensus. In the end, 'Rid of Me' won quite convincingly over the others, but it's true that there was hardly anything to separate the next four albums. It's interesting that Dry picked up noticeably fewer votes, but more number ones, than TBYML / IST? / LES.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

Who else with so many great records, and without much of a pause between, would have a 1-2 so far apart?

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

Leonard Cohen might.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

possibly the best album albini recorded which is saying something

balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

same 1-2 as me so i am happy.

never heard those dry demos before. 'oh my lover', you came a long way baby

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

Chronologically? Eighteen years *is* a long time. Johnny Cash?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

Let England Shake has the worst cover out of all of these I think. Or second-worst to Uh Huh Her.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

i never understood why "rid of me" was supposed to be her token album. for me it represents a huge drop of quality after "dry". there is something cartoonish in the music. all the seemingly more experimentalish character of "rid of me" never conviced me. the songs are lesser songs, the title song is ok but can hardly compete with any of the songs of "dry". can someone try to explain?

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

Nope

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

Just let the rollout happen. I sure there will be plenty of chances for people to expand on why songs from Rid of Me are so facemelting awesome.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

The songs are far better, as a cohesive statement it's a real work-of-art, the power of it is uncompromising and awesome. Which is not to say I like it (well, I do, but I don't love it) but as a *thing* it is uberimpressive.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

It's like George Foreman's fist

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

that doesn't make sense to me. if you don't love it why the hell did you make it no. 1? in music impressive doesn't mean shit without a personal connection.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

you can dance around george foremn's fist you know. muhammad ali did it.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

actually ali didn't

balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

ok he had a different winning strategy against foreman i forgot but that still doesn't explain anything.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

indeed

balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

I love it and I didn't even vote for albums! Some of the reasons that I love it are personal/biographical and I'm not all that interested in sharing those; the other reasons are related to the general amount of audacity it took to make a record like Rid of Me, then and now. The sensation of listening to it when I was 18-19 years old was unforgettable. You can't look at the cover and tell me that there's not a special record in there.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

what the fuck at these results???

i don't think i've ever thought of Rid Of Me as essential - everything about that aesthetic was improved on 4-Track Demos. the production is absolutely horrible. i don't hate it because as ever, it has the songs - and i think i'd go for the ROM version of "50ft Queenie", certainly - but i can't have listened to it front-to-back more than 3 or 4 times in my life (i first heard it in 1995 i guess).

had been hoping Is This Desire would be the surprise ILM-ish #1 - surprised to see it so low. oh well i'll always have the joy of knowing that PJH herself agrees with me.

Uh Huh Her is maybe a minor work but i'll rep hard for it - when it's bad it's rote, but when it's good it's as incredible as peak PJH. i sort of feel its minor status makes it more interesting, somehow, and i'll ALWAYS appreciate its timing - to follow SFTCSFTS with that is kinda why i love PJH as an artist.

sad for Dance Hall, although i guess i didn't expect it to do well - i'm really surprised PJH fans in the '90s would just ignore it. it was the first PJH release after i became a fan, i remember being HYPED.

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

i find dry a tremendously accomplished debut, but in the end an, uh, dry run for rid of me. the latter is monumental, has great songs, and is menacing as hell (which i appreciate a lot).

it is also pure sex.

i can understand why she changed tack -- she could hardly have taken rid of me any further -- and i love nearly everything she's done. i don't find her more recent stuff as singular or striking, that's all.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

i remember being put off by the production when i first heard it, but i came around. it's totally fitting, at any rate

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

i know ALOT of ppl who basically wrote her off once 'pj harvey' ceased to be the name of the band

balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

she feels so BURIED in Rid Of Me, 4-Track Demos she's just out in front screeching as she should have been all along

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

i think i agree w/ lex, rid of me has kind of an oppressive sound, really hard to listen all the way through. used to love it but probably would take any of the others before that one.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

oppressive is the point

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:04 (thirteen years ago)

lol at ppl being mystified that an intense rock artist's most intense rock album might prove to be her most popular

balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

have a hunch that 'fool in the rain' didn't win the zeppelin poll either

balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think ROM is as emotionally intense as ITD or White Chalk (or 4TD!) by a long way

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

sounds like a poll

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

lol who's talking emotions

balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

The 5-4 were my 1-2. I bought Dry when it came out without having heard anything off of it, I think I'd read about her somewhere and I liked the cover. Was completely hooked from the opening bars of "Oh My Lover." I prefer its lo-fi spaciousness to Rid of Me's lo-fi assault, but I understand why Rid of Me is the monument.

Is This Desire is, to me, the closest of her albums to Dry in its range and unpredictability.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

(the closest of her albums that I have actually listened to -- of the bottom half of the poll, I only have Stories and 4-Track, and I've probably only listened to Stories about twice.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

Airline Guitar -- thanks, gents

I also agree that 4-Track demos is far more affecting than ROM, might even be tuff for it to make my top 10.

bodacious ignoramus, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

Just outta curiosity, is Water a big fave? I love her voice on that song.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

i mean 'one more try' by timmy t is more "emotionally intense" than '1969' by the stooges

balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

"Water" is awesome but did not make my ballot... (two other water-themed songs did)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

ROM's emotional intensity is misunderstood - it's mixed in with gigantic smirks and fuck yous in a way some of her other records aren't. It's thrillingly confident and self-referential and playful. I never understood it as being anguished at all, even if it messes with ideas of anguished women in order to make very loud noises. It's just wildly expressive: nobody else can do this and I can.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:26 (thirteen years ago)

otm!!!!
she doesn't really want you to lick her legs, she just wants to say "lick my legs" because it's fun
i never thought she was being earnest about anything in that album -- what a fucking relief! everyone was so earnest in the early 90s.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

what she was doing was (and is) way more challenging than being emotionally intense, imo

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

Rid Of Me was number 3 for me but I love it, esp. for its compressed carnal lurch, the way on a tune like "Missed" it feels like all this heaviness is squeezed into such a small space.

She went more widescreen forever thereafter which worked wonders as well* but Rid of Me is like being hit in the stomach with a ball bearing and I adore it.

*Even so many of my favourite moments post-ROM are ones which approach its qualities by different means - you could never mistake "Long Snake Moan" or "A Perfect Day, Elise" for ROM songs but in their own ways they recapture that sense of a mountain of energy being held within a very confined space (the space is more surround-sound though).

In a separate development, this poll process got me into White Chalk and I'm obsessed with it now.

Tim F, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

Agree that Rid of Me is a very funny album as well.

Tim F, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

everything about that aesthetic was improved on 4-Track Demos.

Not without Rob Ellis it wasn't.

Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah the drumming on Rid of Me (and Dry too) is flat out amazing. I've actually listened to 4-Track Demos for the first time in the past few days and the performances are awesome but it misses Ellis going nutzoid on the drums.

Tim F, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

Relistening to "Rub It Till It Bleeds" last weekend made me queasy like In Utero never did.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

I love 4-Track, but yeah, Ellis was the first "rock" drummer I'd heard in years where I was like, "Waitwaitwait...WHAT the fuck did you just do?!"

xp

Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

i never understood why "rid of me" was supposed to be her token album. for me it represents a huge drop of quality after "dry". there is something cartoonish in the music. all the seemingly more experimentalish character of "rid of me" never conviced me. the songs are lesser songs, the title song is ok but can hardly compete with any of the songs of "dry". can someone try to explain?

― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:23 PM (2 hours ago)

i and others responded to these questions upthread. in the end, the only thing wrong with the album is that you don't feel it. your criticisms are all just value judgments. that's fine, but you have to assume that others feel differently, right? the experimentation feels natural. it convinces me. the songs are great. the title track towers over most (but not all) of dry.

i love the unhinged, carnal exultation. eyeball kicks otm about the stance: "it's just wildly expressive: nobody else can do this and I can." i love that, the sense of this furious, ecstatic wind blowing through her. it is emotionally intense, but it's also joyful, smirky and playful. the sound of an artist completely mastering her material and identity and just letting it ROAR.

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Thursday, 25 April 2013 00:53 (thirteen years ago)

the production is absolutely horrible.

omg no, no, no.

i didn't get to vote in this because someone tried to blow up my city the week i was supposed to listen to pj harvey, but i did get to listen to rid of me today. in many regards it's a tough record to listen to, half the songs are barely even written beyond a riff and an amazing vocal performance. but if there's a better sounding 90s rock record you can please let me know what it is, thx.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 April 2013 02:50 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hYO4FtX4qA#!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2013 03:57 (thirteen years ago)

Man, I'm trying to find some Albini-interviews-Polly piece from the time. I've noticed that of all the high profile stuff he's done, I don't think I've ever heard Albini say a single bad thing about her or working on "Rid of Me."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2013 04:01 (thirteen years ago)

i think he just said that she was weird and ate potatoes the whole time

call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 April 2013 04:10 (thirteen years ago)

BTW, watch that clip til the end to see her light Albini's feet on fire!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2013 04:15 (thirteen years ago)

i appreciated albini mentioning that ___ was the only patch peej allowed on her voice

sometimes ppl act like dude runs roughshod over bands, but he's there to record the sounds they want, and obvs pj knew what she wanted

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 04:20 (thirteen years ago)

rid of me sounds like a million other albini recordings, it has its quirks but it sounds really fuckin' good

call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 April 2013 04:22 (thirteen years ago)

More bands should just track their drums with Albini. I think Trent Reznor did that once, recorded a bunch of drums there and then brought the tapes to another studio. If you're a drummer, you're going to sound good. Everyone else, singers, guitarists. you have to pay attention or he'll just make you sound thin or shitty. He seemed particularly well suited to PJ Harvey at the time. But then, she went from him to a long relationship with Flood, who at one point was the last producer I'd think was well suited to PJ Harvey.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2013 04:28 (thirteen years ago)

gedge did something like that with him on the latter two cinerama albums iirc

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 04:31 (thirteen years ago)

I think he tracked the band there then did the strings somewhere else.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2013 04:37 (thirteen years ago)

Honestly think that Dry would be a more apt name for Rid of Me. Far too claustrophobic for me in a direct, quasi literal way, it's just not enjoyable to listen to.

R = J - L (Leee), Thursday, 25 April 2013 05:23 (thirteen years ago)

half the songs are barely even written beyond a riff and an amazing vocal performance. but if there's a better sounding 90s rock record you can please let me know what it is

i kind of understand this evaluation of "rid of me". it sort of fits with what i feel about the album. the songs are quite primitive, there is lots of repetition but the sound is great. but in the end the songs on "dry" are more propulsive and have more hooks. the sound of "rid of me" may be stronger than on "dry" but the latter has more substance in terms of musical composition.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 25 April 2013 05:43 (thirteen years ago)

i'll measure time
i'll measure height
i'll calculate
musical composition substance

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 05:50 (thirteen years ago)

i sort of agree with all the defences of ROM - i don't dislike it or anything, it certainly doesn't elicit even minor eyerolls in the way Stories does - but it's the "preferring it to any of her other albums" thing that is just like wtffffffffff have you even listened to TBYML or ITD

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 April 2013 07:29 (thirteen years ago)

It's third after those for me.

Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2013 08:56 (thirteen years ago)

I listened to Stories again for this poll and man aside from tracks 2 through 4 is that album ever rmde

Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2013 08:58 (thirteen years ago)

"this is love" and "this wicked tongue" are the only stories standouts for me - "good fortune" is pleasant but not very exciting, "a place called home" is pleasant but basically "good fortune" redux

"big exit" absolutely slays live though

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 April 2013 09:00 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone who would rank that ahead of anything else in her discography (inc. the John Parish albums) needs their head examined.

Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2013 09:01 (thirteen years ago)

seriously, her worst album by such a long way

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 April 2013 09:02 (thirteen years ago)

otm!!!!
she doesn't really want you to lick her legs, she just wants to say "lick my legs" because it's fun

Totally OTM, I sometimes imagine ROM (the album) as something she wrote just to screw with guys' heads, IOW, if a girl sang you these songs you'd probably shit yourself with fear and/or nervousness and that's the whole point of it all.

My top five albums were exactly the same as the poll results (in the same order too) except with "Stories" in place of ITD. I loved ITD when it came out but have cooled on it a lot over the years.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 25 April 2013 09:30 (thirteen years ago)

I will stan for "You Said Something" and "The Whores Hustle and the Hustlers Whore" until the end of time, especially the latter, because she hasn't shown that kind of fire on record since.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 25 April 2013 09:35 (thirteen years ago)

You haven't heard A Woman A Man Walked By, then?

Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2013 09:41 (thirteen years ago)

Stories is my #2, I've got fond memories attached to it but really I just love that guitar sound, I can't even think of any other records from around that time with the same sort of production. (FWIW I only got into PJ when a friend played me Is This Desire? so this was only the second of her albums I'd heard). UHH is definitely my least-favourite but even that's a minor mis-step.

Rid of Me wasn't in my Top 5 but I can understand people who prefer Rocking PJ picking it as their favourite.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 25 April 2013 09:43 (thirteen years ago)

Uh Huh Her isn't a very good record but it's a fascinating one in terms of her artistic path. It sounds totally like a sketchbook - confused, scrappy, sometimes falling back on old tricks but then, on Desperate Kingdom of Love for example, nailing her new direction. I hear that song and I'm like, oh hello White Chalk & Let England Shake.

Share Lex's lack of enthusiasm about Rid of Me. I thought Is This Desire? would be her Erotica (which it kind of is) and place in the top 3.

My beef with all ILX polls is that the early stuff is always overrated and the later work underrated, even with a career as interesting as PJ's. I'm not sure if that's to do with the lasting intensity of youthful fandom, or the impact of hearing an artist for the first time, but results often (huge generalisation here) confirm the cliche that it's all downhill after your first decade.

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 25 April 2013 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

I listened to Stories again for this poll and man aside from tracks 2 through 4 is that album ever rmde

Yeah. Has she ever recorded a string of tunes as inert as "Good Fortune" and "A Place Called Home" and sequenced them consecutively? Ick.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2013 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

I think "A Place Called Home" is incredible. I remember getting the advance of the album and listening to that track five times in a row on my DIscman on the train. Different strokes, etc. People who hate on this record are as perplexing to me as people who think "White Chalk" is her best.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2013 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

yikes, 20 years

anyone else see the tour where Tricky opened?

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 April 2013 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

Do you remember what year that was? 1995?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2013 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah. One of the shows I most regret missing when I was at university.

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 25 April 2013 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

My beef with all ILX polls is that the early stuff is always overrated and the later work underrated, even with a career as interesting as PJ's. I'm not sure if that's to do with the lasting intensity of youthful fandom, or the impact of hearing an artist for the first time, but results often (huge generalisation here) confirm the cliche that it's all downhill after your first decade.

― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:41 AM (2 hours ago)

in the case of artists who eventually arrive at some measure of accessibility and popularity from a more challenging, perhaps punk-rooted starting point, it's almost inevitable. their initial ability to provide the shock of the new becomes the foundation of their artistic legacy. whatever they do afterward that may be interesting in whatever sense, but a great many fans will always reserve a special fondness for the early, calling-card transgressions.

his army of super young artists produce, (contenderizer), Thursday, 25 April 2013 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Yes sure, in this specific case, but it's the same trend in practically every poll. Interested to see how the tracks roll out here.

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 25 April 2013 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

There is a difference though - in their early tracks artists tend to rely on big hooks and impact; then later in their careers they explore more subtle pleasures, like form, textures or lyrical themes. It's no surprise that in a tracks poll the former gets the attention - my inclination is that that's more or less right, but later periods produce better albums.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 April 2013 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

Those things are true, but, again, the weird thing with PJH's discography is Let England Shake at the end of it, getting more attention (and votes) than most of what she's done.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 25 April 2013 13:47 (thirteen years ago)

in most cases, my favorite albums by my favorite rock & pop artists are from fairly early in their careers. not necessarily their very first public works, but typically from within the first decade of activity. i'd say that most get a 5-10 year run off their initial approach and energy, with long-running artists often managing a commercially and/or artistically successful last gasp or reinvention somewhere around the decade point. even allowing for such reinvention, though, the rock/pop artist who's still producing vital work and reaching a sizable audience twenty years out is a rare creature indeed. with that in mind, let england shake's #2 placement here is p remarkable.

his army of super young artists produce, (contenderizer), Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

or, uh, what eyeball kicks just said

his army of super young artists produce, (contenderizer), Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

i agree with stories being her worst but "you said something" and "one line" are breathtaking

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

oh wait and i love "beautiful feeling" too, the way it just rumbles out of nothing

thom yorke employed beautifully and subtly on the tracks he's on, two adjectives i'd normally never apply to him

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:06 (thirteen years ago)

Has she ever recorded a string of tunes as inert as "Good Fortune" and "A Place Called Home" and sequenced them consecutively?

I love both those tunes and the fact that they're sequenced together

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

anyone else see the tour where Tricky opened?

I saw it in NYC. Can't remember the venue. Irving Plaza maybe? I saw her on the Stories From The City tour at Bowery Ballroom which was phenomenal.

I do not understand all the contempt for that record here. And people hate Good Fortune? That is just nonsense.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

delighted to see so much dissent

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

it's more or less a mainstream rock record, employs thom yorke, seems to issue from a position of domestic contentment, abandons most of the discomfort and experimentation of her other work

i like it a lot, but can see as how it might rub a lot of fans the wrong way

his army of super young artists produce, (contenderizer), Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

tbh the only song I loathe is the one about horses.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

It doesn't even rub me up the wrong way. There are a couple of decent songs and a lot of OK but boring ones. The lyrics are embarrassing (to my ears) in lots of places. If Stories had been the first of her records I'd bought (and if it must have been the first for many people), I wouldn't have bothered with her again.

Alfred OTM about Horses ("Horses - In My Dreams" should've been the name of the album haha), but I also hate We Float. What an excruciating pairing.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

It's only trendy to diss Stories because Beefheart doesn't like it.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

I love that last pair of songs!

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

it's more or less a mainstream rock record

But it's a mainstream rock record of the highest caliber. She can write a hook like very few others. Stories is my favorite record of hers for the same reason Born In The USA is my favorite Springsteen: A world-class songwriter filling a record with hits.

I just wish she included Memphis on it, one of the alltime great B-sides.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

What is this Memphis? I know not of it, and it's not on iTunes.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

I mentioned this on some other PJ thread, but this is a good place to bring it up again:

A few years back PJ did the score for a Broadway show that a good friend of mine was involved in. My friend spent a lot of time with her, and said she is the nicest, most down-to-Earth person you could imagine. The polar opposite of her music: she was warm, friendly and unbelievably collaborative. Couldn't say enough nice things about her.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

Memphis: her tribute to Jeff Buckley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcSkSTGrubo

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

"memphis" is awesome, yeah - so is "66 promises", the other "good fortune" b-side

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Good Fortune and A Place Called Home have such massive singalong choruses, anyone who hates on those must necessarily hate fun.

R = J - L (Leee), Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

The lyrics are embarrassing (to my ears) in lots of places

yeah this. good fortune is a good example - a catchy if unadventurous tune spoiled by these corny, pat lyrics. so un-peej.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

She was happy! Happiness is simple. I thought Good Fortune did a great job of articulating the pleasant surprise of things actually going well for once, and also how delicate and fleeting that feeling is. I love that song.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

feel like "good fortune" is hardly the nexus of terrible lyrics on that record. "big exit" despite its incredible exterior is pretty tough to endure lyrically

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

also i really love

things i once thought
unbelievable
in my life
have all taken plaaaaaace

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:04 (thirteen years ago)

I'll admit that Good Fortune is the only song from that album that I listen to at all. Don't remember the others tbh.

"and I feel like some bird of paradise" isn't bad either. At least that's what I think the lyrics are, I'm not 100% sure?!

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

You are missing out on some great songs, La Lechera. My #1 song came from Stories and it's not Good Fortune.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

My #1 song came from Stories

mine too

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

"you said something" is so perfect, the music seems the casual expression of the lyrics

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

Huh, well I'll take that into consideration! I'm always willing to give PJ another chance.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:17 (thirteen years ago)

love every bit of sftc, it's loose in a way none of her other records approach (or tbf attempt), and mature about happiness and love in a way nevermind none of her other records but few other rock records period attempt (maybe solo lennon on occasion)(maybe new morning?), in some ways the inverse of rid of me. at the time i was worried she was lost to mannerism (more due to the show i saw for itd? than itd? itself though the stagnation there was worrying also), this was the opposite of that and turned out to be the last time she was capable of surprising me.

balls, Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

The reviews at the time were overwhelmingly positive.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

i mean i respect and admire and bow down before 'MAJOR ARTISTIC STATEMENT' records but increasingly i prefer the minor another day another dollar records. they're more revealing and human, they're usually funnier, and they're easier to live with.

balls, Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno – SFTC was a major statement, a typical I'm In Love and In The City record.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

xpost well yeah the reasoning behind most of those contemp sftc reviews is suspect i will agree

balls, Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

soto i'm in love records are very different kind of artistic statments than i am now going to examine this thing we call love records, the former is dusty springfield the latter is sting

balls, Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

SFTC is both ("This is Love" the former, "Beautiful Feeling" the latter).

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

xpost well yeah the reasoning behind most of those contemp sftc reviews is suspect i will agree

― balls, Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:26 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Robert Christgau doubles his fun:

Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea [Island, 2000]
If Nirvana and Robert Johnson are rock's essence for you, so's To Bring You My Love. But if you believe the Beatles and George Clinton had more to say in the end, this could be the first PJ album you adore as well as admire. It's a question of whether you use music to face your demons or to vault right over them. Either way the demons will be there, of course, and nobody's claiming they won't catch you by the ankle and bring you down sometime--or that facing them doesn't give you a shot at running them the fuck over. Maybe that's how Harvey got to where she could enjoy the fruits of her own genius and sexuality. Or maybe she just met the right guy. Tempos and pudendum juiced, she feels the world ending and feels immortal on the very first track. The other 11 songs she takes from there. A+

I know it's impolite to put it this way, but sometimes getting laid can really be good for a person. On the recorded evidence--with no claim to any lowdown on Polly Jean Harvey's actual private life, a mystery as closely guarded as the whereabouts of Saddam Hussein and the formula for Coke--that's the secret of PJ Harvey's Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea, which even she allows is the happiest-sounding album she's ever made. What she daren't suggest is that it may also be the best.
The shift is first apparent in the music, which is, not to beat around the bush, fast. Way more easeful than the tightly wound, dynamically extreme bluesism of the career-launching Dry and Rid of Me, it's also way livelier than 1995's critical triumph To Bring You My Love, where Harvey's desperate carnality took a sharply metaphysical turn, and 1998's rhetorical question Is This Desire?, the answer to which was maybe. While her austere sonic signature remains, the vocals are discernibly more relaxed, the tunes welcoming and even expansive. Listen for shadings on the guitar attack, too--piano, organ, marimba, is that bandoneon? The album's an up from the first strums of "Big Exit," unquestionably the most rousing opener of her career.

Granted, maybe you'll smell shtick even so--our Polly, getting archetypal with the elementals again. After all, "Big Exit" does meditate painfully on human suffering. But the song's aesthetic thrust is all in the two lines of euphoria her ruminations try to rationalize away: "I'm immortal/When I'm with you." That's why it's so rousing. As she reports in the redolently titled "This Is Love": "I can't believe that the axis turns/On suffering when you taste so good." Long blessed with uncommon talent and success, Harvey can finally accept her "bad fortune slipping away."

Harvey has always been sex-obsessed. But there are better things to do with sex than obsess about it--enjoy it, for instance. And though the love affair the album describes or invents may end badly--e.g., the furious "Kamikaze," or the lovely "The Mess We're In," sung mostly by Radiohead's Thom Yorke--at least it sounds like a true affair, rather more full-bodied than "Robert DeNiro, sit on my face." Harvey and her beau ideal dance and get drunk, walk through Little Italy and sit looking at the skyline from a Brooklyn rooftop. Maybe they'll fulfill the dream of the finale: "But one day/We'll float/Take life as it comes." Or maybe she'll attain that state of grace with someone else. Whatever happens, this album will be there to remind her how happiness feels.

Rolling Stone, Nov. 9, 2000

Note: When printed, this was a four stars. As written it was 4.5 stars. In the Consumer Guide it is graded A+.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

God he is DISGUSTING.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

I have to work this evening, but I'll try to at least get the tracks run down started. 116 different songs were voted for. I'm going to do a top 60 countdown.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

Before that, let's shed a tear for the three songs I voted for that didn't make the top 60:

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

haha he always got so creepy writing about her good lord. i know ppl here are already on record as finding it horrifyingly abysmal but i've always loved 'we float' as the closer, if you take it as straight forward hakuna matata (it means 'no worries') i can understand the horror but it's always played to me as this concluding statement, that on sftc you have this person who's been able to shrug off or revel in the agonies of life w/ intelligence or 'art' or sheer force of youth but those aren't enough for her (at least not today) and so either by meeting the right guy or just being in the right city she finds herself opening herself up to another person and relating to him as a person and not a construct and she's never known love like this before now she's lonely never more etc and maybe this is how you beat the demons but in a corner of her mind and on the occasional lyric something whispers 'maybe not' and so at the end she acknowledges this but hopes if not today maybe tomorrow. ten years later cut to some crone banging away on a piano about the war.

balls, Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

73. Happy and Bleeding - 64 points, 3 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

Wow, I didn't know that many fans dislike Stories. I didn't vote but it's my favourite album of hers. (I only heard all of Dry very recently, though. It could give some competition.) I'm not a very lyrics-oriented listener. The tunes just feel more complete and satisfying to me.

There are some really intense moments on Rid of Me, and the sound is great, but the songwriting just seems incomplete to me, musically. The title track is classic though. My OPO is either that or "Sheela-na-Gig".

Also, wow, Christgau's an ass.

xposts

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

69. Teclo - 68 points, 3 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

62. Ecstasy - 80 points, 4 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

Teclo too loooooooow

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

69 & 62 were both cuts from my ballot.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 April 2013 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

I love "Kamikaze", voted for it, not big on the rest of that album but that song is great

Euler, Thursday, 25 April 2013 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

if I'd have waited a day to vote I'd have voted for "Teclo", it got stuck in my head after I sent the ballot in

Euler, Thursday, 25 April 2013 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

Teclo too slowwwwwww

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 April 2013 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

Teclo was cut off mine at last minute too.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 25 April 2013 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

It was only a few places below my cutoff too

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 April 2013 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

'teclo84' was one of my first AOL SNs

Salt Mama Celeste (donna rouge), Thursday, 25 April 2013 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

haha

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2013 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

Teclo too loooooooow

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:59 AM (1 hour ago)

holy shit, no kidding! my #5 and easily my favorite track off tbyml. kind of shocked, as i'd for some reason assumed it was one of her acknowledged classics.

his army of super young artists produce, (contenderizer), Thursday, 25 April 2013 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

gorgeous fucking song, nothing else she's ever done really sounds like it

his army of super young artists produce, (contenderizer), Thursday, 25 April 2013 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

I felt like I had to choose between "Teclo" and "The Dancer" on my ballot and plumped for the latter. Great to see "Happy And Bleeding" made it though.

Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2013 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

^ exactly what I did.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 25 April 2013 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

"Teclo" doesn't have "Ah-AHH? AHHH-Ah!" tipping the scales in its favour.

Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2013 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

it does have that ear-shuddering bass note tho

Salt Mama Celeste (donna rouge), Thursday, 25 April 2013 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

Nice tremelo guitar part too.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 April 2013 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

Xgau always freed to let out his inner sleaze when the artist in question flaunts sexuality. No doubt he thinks he's being edgy, or even calling them on the banality of their modest transgressions, but it always comes off so poorly.

Y'all are crazy, "Stories..." is soooo good, pretty much start to finish, definitely a better album than "To Bring You My Love." And even if I'm clearly the only one in the world who thinks it's a pretty dark record - opening lines!

Look out ahead
I see danger come
I wanna' pistol
I wanna' gun
I'm scared baby
I wanna' run
This world's crazy
Give me the gun

- even the "love" stuff after that is definitely tinged with darkness. I hear it all as a search for security and comfort, romantic or otherwise, in a horrible, batshit world. The words "hold me" shift in meaning, depending on how you hear them. Hold me, I love you. Hold me, I'm scared. Hold me, I feel so shitty I need someone to help me feel better. And so on. Even "We Float" is clearly an end of a relationship song. Dark, dark, dark. Reminds me of "Achtung Baby" meets Murnau's "Sunrise."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2013 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

I voted for "Ecstasy". It's got the biggest gap between the ROM and 4TD versions. On 4TD it sounds ordinary, on ROM it's just about the heaviest thing going.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 25 April 2013 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

I voted for it too -- I love a good dirge and it's also v evocative.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 April 2013 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

60. The Darker Days of Me and Him - 83 votes, 5 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

59. Snake - 83 points, 5 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

Collaborative spotify playlist

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

Goddammit, Snake was my #9.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

"the darker days of me and him" is so powerful and so calm at the same time. so relaxed and so strong. a pj harvey grand cru. she is so determined, she knows exactly what she is doing.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

The Darker Days of Me and Him is just boring to me, and the lines about "With no neurosis / No psychosis" etc embarrassing. I do not relate to earnest Polly I think.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

I don't really have anything to say about either of those songs. The name 'The Darker Days of...' meant nothing to me, so I was surprised to find out it was on Uh-Huh-Her (which I have, unlike the more obscure ones). 'Snake' to me was always just filler before the far superior 'Ecstasy'.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/02/03/09/2030963_12576ab1.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

58. Fountain - 84 points, 4 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

^ My number 4, love that song, the tension all the way through building up to

my I for
on hill wait wind

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

Hmph. ILX has fucked up the formatting of that last post and turned it into gibberish.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

shame on you ilx

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, Fountain a great early example of building and building up to the end.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

lol ecstasy was my no. 5

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

Ismael - I need spotify help. I can open that link to get the playlist you're making of the top 60, but that has spotify as a webpage without me being signed in. When I open the spotify program on my PC and do a search I can't find the playlist. Yet, strangely, my search turns up another Ismaelklata PJ Harvey ILM playlist, possibly something you used while my choosing your songs.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

Cripes yes, I do have another one that I used for ordering the songs. This means all my lists are public?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

In short, I have no idea how the damn thing works

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

xp - Every list you've ever made anywhere. I've just been perusing a shopping list of yours from 1996.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

Me neither.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

If you click the play button on the browser Spotify playlist page, it should open up your client and take you directly to the playlist.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

Yes the whole world can see your Get Ripped workout mix

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

All that time and nobody said anything?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

57. One Line - 86 points, 5 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

56. The Mountain - 87 points, 5 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

One Line, eh...

The Mountain is in my 2nd tier of favorites from White Chalk, and as such I didn't vote for it, but I like it anyway!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

The Mountain was on my White Chalk list but got squeezed out. Final track on the album, terrific screeching. A version (filmed) for Norwegian radio:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xsddqZ8yTU

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

I had The Mountain pretty high. I try not to compare female singer-songwriters, but it does remind me a bit of Kate Bush's A Coral Room, only it explodes outwards rather than looking inwards.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

55. Easy - 88 points, 4 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

Easy is fun but very similar to Yuri-G, which develops it into something more interesting. Taken beyond a demo it would've made sense on Dry, but it seems weak compared to other Rid of Me stuff.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

54. The Last Living Rose - 90 points, 4 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeasaaaay

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

totally different lyrically than yuri-g

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

also i love the rhythm of the lyrics in "easy" and the ha! ha! ha! ha! part at the end

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

Similar tune, but yeah different lyrically - the lyric would fit better on Dry though. The song missed its chance.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

Only 4 votes for Last Living Rose!

Film by Seamus Murphy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWBrWhrKchQ

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

totes agree it would have made more sense on dry -- it has a lot in common with "dress"

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:16 (thirteen years ago)

53. Black Hearted Love - 93 points, 4 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

PJ on a bouncy castle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWrfLhX964I

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

Easy is fun but very similar to Yuri-G, which develops it into something more interesting. Taken beyond a demo it would've made sense on Dry, but it seems weak compared to other Rid of Me stuff.

― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:07 PM (17 minutes ago)

...i love the rhythm of the lyrics in "easy" and the ha! ha! ha! ha! part at the end

― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:14 PM (10 minutes ago)

both otm, but i love "yuri-g" SO DAMN MUCH that a lesser stab at the same thing is still aces in my book. plus i like the fact that it's not really trying all that hard. has a nice swagger, too.

contenderizer, Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

Yay "Black-Hearted Love"!

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.britstore.co.uk/phpThumb.php?src=/photos/Walkers_Mega_Monster_Munch_Pickled_Onion_40g.jpg&w=200&h=200

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

52. Meet Ze Monsta - 97 points, 8 votes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtbfOKgWRFI

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

"Darker Days..." my only UHH pick. It points the way to the next two records.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever heard Albini say a single bad thing about her or working on "Rid of Me."

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:01 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think he just said that she was weird and ate potatoes the whole time

― call all destroyer

wkiw

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Thursday, 25 April 2013 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

i remember the thing about potatoes! that really stuck with me. i thought she must come from some barren wasteland where the only thing to eat is potatoes, or she was raised in kaspar hauser levels of isolation and tossed potatoes for sustenance. lol?

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 April 2013 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

Sad Last Living Rose is so low, that was my top pick off LES.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 25 April 2013 23:26 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, I was fascinated by her when the 1st & 2nd records were new. I didn't get any magazines that gave any details; I knew her because a friend turned me onto her. so I just had the records to go on. who is she? what kind of person is she? the songs on Rid of Me seemed homoerotic to me, but the songs on Dry didn't as much. what's the story? it was so hard to find anything out; you just have these wild pictures on the albums, & those songs. it's different now!

Euler, Thursday, 25 April 2013 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

it is

contenderizer, Friday, 26 April 2013 00:11 (thirteen years ago)

can you imagine how much less interesting she would have seemed if she were constantly tweeting what she ate in between recording songs

potatoes
potatoes
potatoes
more potatoes
lol potatoes

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 01:22 (thirteen years ago)

fountain is so awesome

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 26 April 2013 01:27 (thirteen years ago)

wow -- coincidence! I'm listening to the back half of Dry as I type. "Water"!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 April 2013 01:28 (thirteen years ago)

iirc the potato comment was interesting and/or perhaps loaded (haha loaded potatoes) b/c there was also a looooot of hubbub at the time about women who were very thin -- kate moss, heroin chic, etc -- and i think she took some INCREDIBLY STUPID heat for being small/petite/slender

thank god that's overwith but it pissed me off at the time

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 01:31 (thirteen years ago)

Lately only felt the full brunt of Fountain's power, but my gods, is it monolithic.

Meet Ze Monsta == mm hmm.

R = J - L (Leee), Friday, 26 April 2013 01:38 (thirteen years ago)

There is no way in hell 'Black Hearted Love' should be that low.

I mean, that's just. . .

**holds tongue**

Austin, Friday, 26 April 2013 02:16 (thirteen years ago)

wow -- coincidence! I'm listening to the back half of Dry as I type. "Water"!

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, April 25, 2013 6:28 PM (1 hour ago)

OTM

had to do a quick search to reassure myself it wasn't coming in this low. cuz i know y'all are crazy, but...

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Friday, 26 April 2013 02:34 (thirteen years ago)

two of my votes so far - "the darker days..." and "easy", really hyped that both made it in - had always thought they were just personal favourites

"easy" is probably the funniest PJH song for me, i love the rhythm of the words and the lascivious fuck-you wink she delivers them with. LEGS WIDE HIPS SWINGIN LIKE A DOORWAY. and the "HUH! HUH!"s behind the chorus work so well - it's just a demo but it seems fully fleshed out. a stronger hook than most of ROM imo, too.

"meet ze monsta" and "the mountain" were on my longlist but cut, good to see them too.

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 26 April 2013 10:13 (thirteen years ago)

also, just nine tracks in but almost every album already represented! (still waiting on ITD and DHALP.) and no album represented more than once (unless you want to count the 4TD version of "snake" which, actually, i do)

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 26 April 2013 10:16 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't vote for anything off LES but probably should've given 'Last Living Rose' some points.

First heard 'Meet Ze Monsta' on that Britpop Now! programme, god knows how that performance ended up happening.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 26 April 2013 11:01 (thirteen years ago)

Especially given how high "England" landed among the albums, I'm curious which or how many individual songs from that album make the cut.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 April 2013 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

i gave the album a slot among my favorites, but only voted for two tracks (the good ones). wouldn't be surprised if that were a common pattern.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Friday, 26 April 2013 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

out of the blue it is he vision to me bearing leaves petals green covers me in all my shame

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 26 April 2013 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

The next one is one of my favourites. Surprisingly few votes, but those that voted for it rate it highly. I love the drums and the menacing bass line.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 April 2013 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

a description that covers lots of Peej songs!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 April 2013 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

51. Working for the Man – 100 points, 4 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 April 2013 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

Been looking for a good live clip of that one, but the best one is from the same gig as the previous track as well (Glastonbury 95):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY8ELk4WX2k

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

50. White Chalk - 107 points, 6 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

working for the man not a stand out for me personally. white chalk wasn't too far off my ballot iirc

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 26 April 2013 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

49. All And Everyone - 109 points, 5 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

wow, shockingly low for one of the highlights - if not THE highlight and centrepiece - of the album that placed second...

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ln5rsgnjef1qbsoxo.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

48. Victory - 110 points, 5 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

xp Yeah, All and Everyone is pivotal. As is White Chalk. Maybe they don't have stand-alone appeal to most folk.

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 26 April 2013 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

"All and Everyone" is one of about three songs on LES that I have to hear when listening to the entire album start to finish. It's never worked for me as a standalone track.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 26 April 2013 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

working for the man my #3, great live performance, the way she moves is stunning.
victory my #2, can't believe the low rank, are u totally crazy? one of her most intense and most powerful songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAhpPDfH9ws

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 26 April 2013 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAhpPDfH9ws

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 26 April 2013 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

I gave All And Everyone 15 of those points. The problem with with Let England Shake is that there are so many great songs, all of a piece, that votes would have been divided. Few single songs stand out as on her other albums. They're all as excellent as each other.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 26 April 2013 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

nice performance - but jeez, i'm still not used to so many quick edits between camera angles -- i love watching footage from the 70s and earlier where they hold shots for long times and used the slowest possible zooms.

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 26 April 2013 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

Victory is a great song, but back in 1992 when I was first listening to Dry I couldn't help but hear the similarities to the then recent Inspiral Carpets song Sackville. It seems absurd two decades later, and it is a very simple riff no doubt found on dozens of songs, but I couldn't ever enjoy the song as a result. I really hated Inspiral Carpets:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBgygp73gFM

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 26 April 2013 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

egads! that's bad !

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 26 April 2013 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

how can all and everyone, a boring ballad without any spark, be so close to the magnificent victory in this poll? best version is the peel session btw.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 26 April 2013 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

hahaha! iirc inspiral carpets also had a song called "joe" and sinead o'connor had "just call me joe" and there was that concrete blonde song "joey" and i remember thinking that naming a song "joe" was a bit cliched too! (i also had a totally brain consuming and pointless crush on a boy named joe, which is why i had catalogued songs named joe in my head)

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

"a boring ballad without any spark"

I think you might be listening to an Inspiral Carpets song called All and Everyone by mistake.

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 26 April 2013 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

Listening to A Woman A Man Walked By again, and reiterate that this album is deeply underrated. I love how both this and Dance Hall At Louse Point feel so loose performance-wise, in a funny way although they show Polly at her most theatrical there's a sense in which, overall, they're closest to capturing her as she is, maybe because she's so frequently funny. But yeah the way she wails "ERICA!... DANIELLE!" on "Sixteen, Fifteen, Fourteen"... This is a song that feels like it could fit into basically any of her albums right up to Uh Huh Her, not in the sense of being generic PJ Harvey, but in the sense of sharing something of what is so fascinating about each of her incarnations over the course of that entire period.

Tim F, Friday, 26 April 2013 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

I'll admit that I voted for Is That All There Is? for theatricality (and also because I love that song and her singing it is next level yesssss)

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah "Is That All There Is" is totally theatrical but also kind of unaffected in that theatricality? Like, there's something very honest-feeling about its overblown vamping?

Tim F, Friday, 26 April 2013 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

That's partly the song, I think -- there's so much devil-may-care who-gives-a-shit why-bother in the song itself that it translates automatically no matter how it's sung. I love her version of it.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

Oh yeah that too but I just mean that you really feel how much PJ loves plugging into the song's vibe and going ham with it, and that feels as "true" a pose as, like, brute churning rockers or windswept bronte balladry.

Tim F, Friday, 26 April 2013 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

"Is That All There Is?" made my top 10 -- i think it captures the colour of the lyrics better than other version i've heard -- PJ's medicine seams to always be accompanied with the most appropriate dose.

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 26 April 2013 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

That's why she is so wonderful imo! She can wear so many elaborate costumes with conviction. She is extremely versatile, and the dexterity she moves with is impressive.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

no doubt -- a true cameleon

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 26 April 2013 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

I've just listened to her 'Is That All There Is?' for the first time and realised it's the same song as this one that my dad got in the late 80s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w6bHzvikl8

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 April 2013 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

Peggy Lee's was the version I knew and loved -- it's Leiber and Stoller!

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

many similarities with Giant Sand (whose 'Tucson' album is something all should hear) version, yet much more "carnival" and "come-what-may" in it's delivery than PJs dirge. Peggy Lee's harps on burlesque, and divine.

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 26 April 2013 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

Victory seems kinda low. Thought that would be much higher.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 27 April 2013 00:21 (thirteen years ago)

Re: Inspiral Carpets
While listening to everything (some of it for the first time in years) before making my ballot I made a couple of strange connections. 'Meet Ze Monsta' reminded me of Spacemen 3 - Losing Touch With My Mind (just one of the guitar sounds really) and something about the bass in the early parts of 'Angeline' made me think of Joe Jackson - Geraldine and John.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 11:39 (thirteen years ago)

47. The Devil - 112 points, 6 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 11:42 (thirteen years ago)

outrageously low, shameful

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 27 April 2013 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

http://vimeo.com/22956489

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 27 April 2013 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

http://991.com/newGallery/ZZ-Top-Legs-289364.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

46. Legs - 112 points, 6 votes

Not great dinner party music

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

didn't realize it was a cover

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 27 April 2013 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

xp, great song, i mean "the devil". somehow i did not include it in my ballot. in the beginning of the video her high-pitch singig makes me think of oskar matzerath, the kid drummer from the "tin drum" by grass. and i expect the water glass to burst. miraculously it does not break.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 27 April 2013 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

just a minor request: would it be possible to put the album in brackets after the song, nbs?

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM-tIpWtqYk

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

I really like The Devil. It's such a great title, I'd probably have voted for it anyway even if it wasn't such a fine tune.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

^ satanist

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

46. Legs - 112 points, 6 votes
DAMMIT!

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

I'm surprised but happy about how "White Chalk" is doing. I've always thought it was really underrated.

!Alicia!, Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

The album, that is.

!Alicia!, Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/32800000/Catherine-Tate-ginger-heads-32891554-280-390.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

45. Catherine (Is This Desire?) - 113 points, 5 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

wow, shockingly low for one of the highlights - if not THE highlight and centrepiece - of the album that placed second...

― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, April 26, 2013 10:30 AM (Yesterday)

re: "white chalk". otm. it is the highlight and centerpiece of the album. expected it to place in the top 20.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Saturday, 27 April 2013 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

that's probably true re: "the devil" but i think i love "dear darkness" from wc even more. and i expect it to place.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 27 April 2013 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

Gave you my heart/you left the thing stinking

!Alicia!, Saturday, 27 April 2013 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

When Under Ether will probably be the highest from White Chalk, but still, the title cut wuz robbed! Far too low. It's one of the creepiest songs you'll ever hear.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 27 April 2013 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.gardenvisit.com/assets/madge/clandon_park_dutch_garden/original/clandon_park_dutch_garden_original.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

44. The Garden (Is This Desire?) - 116 points, 7 votes

Catherine and The Garden were both late cuts from my ballot.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

Catherine was one of my re-discoveries from ITD?

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

For confusion that's how I approve of acronyming ITD?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

another phantastic powerful song (that bass!) which should have been in the top 20.

"and there was trouble taking place"

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.usingenglish.com/resources/letter.gif

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

43. The Letter (Uh Huh Her) - 122 points, 8 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

Erk. Just noticed a foolish error.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

So..... I foolishly forgot to put a column in the spreadsheet for the position of each song in the chart and was reading their positions from the row number, but obviously there were two blank rows at the top (with headings) which means every position I've given so far has been two too low. Fortunately I've noticed this early enough for it not to be a big deal - the poll would have been somewhat anticlimactic if it had built up to number three and then stopped (although I suppose it would have been funny seeing people scratching their heads trying as we entered the top five trying to work out what on earth could possibly be in it that they hadn't been expecting).

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

So you need to subtract two from every position I've given so far. I'll post a proper countdown shortly, but first we need to go back to the *real* number 60 and 59....

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

bonus results...nice

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.drugson-line.info/images/photos/ecstasy.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

60. Ecstasy (Rid of Me) - 80 points, 4 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/55/5548/F6ELG00Z/posters/richard-l-anson-people-floating-in-pool-on-rubber-rings.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

59. We Float (Songs from the...) - 81 points, 5 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

eek

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

re: the letter. another one of my faves. how come that all those raw songs place so low? some great, subtle drumming on that one.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

Er...Stories from the....

*must concentrate*

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

i am assuming the low placing of the letter is more a reflection of general antipathy towards UHH, because that is one of her best singles

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

It was the only track from that album that I could actually remember when I started this poll. Once I'd re-listened to the album a bit I really liked It's You as well.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

'the garden' is p hot

Salt Mama Celeste (donna rouge), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

I was wondering if PJ had a song called "The Innertube."

Hoster Tulleee, Lord of Riverrun, Past Eve and Adam's (Leee), Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

swimsuit otm

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Saturday, 27 April 2013 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

The (correct) countdown so far:

60 Ecstasy - Rid of Me
59 We Float - Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea
58 The Darker Days of Me and Him - Uh Huh Her
57 Snake - Rid of Me
56 Fountain - Dry
55 One Line - Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea
54 The Mountain - White Chalk
53 Easy - 4-Track Demos
52 The Last Living Rose - Let England Shake
51 Black Hearted Love - A Woman A Man Walked By
50 Meet Ze Monsta - To Bring You My Love
49 Working for the man - To Bring You My Love
48 White Chalk - White Chalk
47 All and Everyone - Let England Shake
46 Victory - Dry
45 The Devil - White Chalk
44 Legs - Rid of Me
43 Catherine - Is This Desire?
42 The Garden - Is This Desire?
41 The Letter - Uh Huh Her

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 27 April 2013 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

I am already regretting giving To Bring You My Love the shaft in my voting. Right now I'd put both "Meet Ze Monsta" & "Teclo" high on my ballot, like the album's finally making sense to me (& I got it the day it came out!). funny how long it can take.

Euler, Saturday, 27 April 2013 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

To Bring You My Love is another album where I tend to twin the tracks, which played out in my voting: I went for "The Dancer" over "Teclo", "Long Snake Moan" over "Meet Ze Monsta", "C'mon Billy" over "Send His Love To Me"... though in each case the preference is marginal or even basically non-existent (could easily have switched the last choice, for example).

Tim F, Saturday, 27 April 2013 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

http://cdn.euroffice.com/eo/item/742887/0-Huge-0.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

40. Water (Dry) - points 124, 6 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

"the letter" has one of the best riffs PJH has ever written

"catherine" - she does so much with so little

"the garden" - i think i voted for this; i always think i underrate it, though, because ITD is such an embarrassment of transcendent riches that something like this, where the intensity feels more muted, taking second place to the story she's telling, doesn't stand out so much.

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

Does anything exist of Polly's time before she became PJ Harvey? I gather she played coffee shops, gigging bands, etc for about five years before things started moving for her. But I know nothing about them, or the scene she was part of (if there was one).

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1321336763_ether.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

Twinning tracks is far easier with TBYML.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

this was the band she was in with john parish before forming PJ harvey:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr9K1MUmcuA

Salt Mama Celeste (donna rouge), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

god that hurt

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I wouldn't've voted for that

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

sticking with "sprang fully-formed from the skull of zeus" tbh

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

When Under Ether is really good though, glad it made it

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think it's appeared yet. expect it to.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

It's coming (hence the picture), real life just interrupted me...

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

39. When Under Ether (White Chalk)- 127 points, 7 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

Following the Youtube trail from that Automatic Dlamini vid, I came across a song of theirs called Water(!) that is a more interesting precursor of later stuff. You could really imagine this ending up on Dance Hall at Louse Point in some form:

(terrible sound quality by the way)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXfio75zGAw

Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

That pre-PJH youtube clip is fascinating (xp - the first one, haven't seen the Water one yet)

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

If When Under Ether is this low, I'm suspecting The Piano won't make it. ;_;

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

I like that Water clip a lot. Could imagine that showing up on The Chart Show Indie Singles on a quiet week.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

After a week or two thinking of PJ, I decided to try to get vinyl versions of all of her albums. Already had Dry and the most recent two (plus A Woman A Man Walked By). I used to have Rid of Me before an ex borrowed it permanently. But they're pretty expensive! This afternoon I got a replacement Rid of Me for £42 and 4-Track Demos for £20 on ebay. There's an Uh Huh Her auction ending in half an hour, but it's at £43 already goddammit.

Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

I like that Water clip a lot
I'm surprised to say I do too.

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

http://greatergood.berkeley.edu/images/uploads/Sutton-Gallinsky_Adam_E-lowrez.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

38. Written on the Forehead (Let England Shake) - 130 points, 6 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

great song

I'm sorry I said anything (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

One of my votes.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

never understand why people rated the closing stretch of LES over the opening stretch

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

i've just realised "the slow drug" might not place :(

the second PJH's murmured backing vox >>>>>>

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

Shit is getting real now.

Tim F, Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

i've just realised "the slow drug" might not place :(

I ranked it high.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

never understand why people rated the closing stretch of LES over the opening stretch

OTM. For me, the first 8 songs on LES are incredible, and then it immediately tails off, with the final 4 all being just decent.

Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

37. Reeling (4-Track Demos) - 132 points, 6 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

Were we meant to specify between the demo and the b-side?

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

ROBERT DE NIRO SIT ON MY FACE

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

This is the best. Well not the actual best, I only had it no.11 - but woo, what an impact

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

Were we meant to specify between the demo and the b-side?

No - all versions get counted together, I was just asked upthread to put the album name after the track (if possible).

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 April 2013 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

voted for "Reeling." Love that feedback screech.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 April 2013 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

In that case...

37. Reeling (4-Track Demos / 50ft Queenie b-side) - 132 points, 6 votes

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 28 April 2013 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.whatalesyou.co.uk/ugc/beer/Stella%20Artois/Stella/st-patricks-beer-stella-artois-ss.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 April 2013 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

36. O Stella (Dry) - 132 points, 8 votes
Live at Glastonbury 1992

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 April 2013 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

(or possibly Reading)

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 April 2013 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

let england shake may drop off toward the end, but "written on the forehead" is amazing. one of the last tracks i cut; wish i'd found a way to keep it.

and yeah, "reeling" has always been one of my favorites. as with "easy", i can't imagine why it didn't make the rid of me cut.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Sunday, 28 April 2013 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

Reeling was high up on my ballot - I prefer the band version to the demo - but I wouldn't put it on Rid Of Me if only because the de Niro reference is too real-world (if bizarre) and might puncture the mythical atmosphere.

Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 28 April 2013 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

Holy fuck, I've just found the best PJ Harvey youtube item - the 1993 documentary "Reeling with PJ Harvey". I didn't even know this existed. Loads of behind the scene footage, interviews and live stuff. Here's part 1 - if the other parts don't follow on automatically click through to the uploader's account to get the rest. Amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyInQwNfIsA

Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 28 April 2013 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, that looks great

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 April 2013 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

I enjoyed that, but there's almost nothing there about her art or what she thinks. Even the group dynamic is barely touched on. I don't feel like she's any more knowable. I prefer it like that tbh, but I'm not sure a filmmaker should count that as a success.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 April 2013 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

When you see her as her offstage self, there's a kind of Clark Kent effect. There are certain facial similarities, but there's no way I would ever suspect that it's the same person as the one onstage in sunglasses and feather boa yelling about sex etc.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 29 April 2013 09:48 (thirteen years ago)

I don't feel like she's any more knowable. I prefer it like that tbh, but I'm not sure a filmmaker should count that as a success.

audience victory and subject victory though right? i haven't watched it because i'm afraid of being disappointed. should i?

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Monday, 29 April 2013 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

I can't imagine being disappointed, there are good live performances, lots of Polly, and Steve Albini doing something utterly ridiculous. Maybe if you're into pure cinematography, the aesthetic values are fairly low.

Polly herself seems like a very nice individual entirely focused on doing her job as best she can, which is a thing I am very happy to see.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

If you're into her because she's the female Pete Doherty, then it would disappoint you.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i would be disappointed in a lack of professionalism, or insisting that every room she's in be the peej show. if she doesn't do that, and is otherwise dignified, i would totally enjoy it. albini was funny in "you weren't there"

xp omg pls

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 29 April 2013 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

she comes across as a generally nice, funny and grounded person, and the main hint of a connection between offstage polly and on-stage/record pj is an amount of obvious self-possession and confidence

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

an amount of obvious self-possession and confidence
now we're talkin

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 29 April 2013 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

If you wanna skip to the P Doherty moment, here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD5E6TZ9wgk&t=2m35s

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

Sorry, from 2:35 in that clip is the moment to look for.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

No need to see Cocksucker Blues after that

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.verdensteatret.no/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/piano-2.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

35. The Piano (White Chalk) - 137 points, 7 votes

That's just a taster, much more coming up a bit later...

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 16:00 (thirteen years ago)

I sneaked that one in the bottom of my list, I like it. White Chalk is full of good stuff, isn't it?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 April 2013 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

Yay! I was worried that wouldn't make it!

Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 April 2013 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

really pleased that the devil and the piano made it

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 April 2013 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

man I can't believe I never really sat down with White Chalk before now

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Monday, 29 April 2013 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, it's p great

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Monday, 29 April 2013 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

white chalk is so creepy and weird, it rules

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 April 2013 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

Coming up - the first track so far to get a number one vote...

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

never seen that docu before! had no idea it existed. me and my sister were right down the front and very drunk for the gig she's talking about in Manchester right at the start. 20 years ago.. holy shit.

piscesx, Monday, 29 April 2013 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

34. This Is Love (Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea) - 140 points, 2 first places, 6 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

well.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 April 2013 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

Two first places?!?

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 29 April 2013 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

Nowhere near my ballot

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

Hi!

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

Explain yourself

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 April 2013 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

Life is complex. Sex is complex. Which is why the track sounds ominous as fuck.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

"this is love" is one of the few genuinely incredible songs on stories

(can't remember whether it was incredible enough to make my ballot)

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 29 April 2013 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

I wouldn't vote for it today but in the early 2000s it was the track I'd burn on CD-Rs for PJ skeptics.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 17:56 (thirteen years ago)

9th best song on Stories, imo

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.billythefish.com/mediac/400_0/media/Uncle~Peter.jpg

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

Back to the documentary a minute. I don't get how this thing exists but even heads don't know about it. Any indie band from that era that did anything - an art gig, bit-part in a sitcom, even just a trip to America - had it hyped to fuck in the music press.

Was there an entirely separate scene somewhere that she was a part of? I'm having trouble placing where she came from and who her audience was. They're flicking through Q at one point, but I don't think it's that.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 April 2013 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

33. In The Dark Places (Let England Shake) - 158 points, 8 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

^^^ a marvel

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

re: "this is love"

it's a damn good song. didn't vote for it, but see no crime. live, it kind of sounds like "chinese rocks".

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:14 (thirteen years ago)

OK, This Is Love is better and rawer (esp in the context of Stories) than I remembered it. I'm just surprised it's anyone's favourite.

I wonder how many more Let England Shake tracks will place. Maybe just Words and the title track, though I voted for Hanging in the Wire as well.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

if "On Battleship Hill" doesn't place you are all insane

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

It'll place, it's a masterpiece

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 April 2013 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I was really surprised by how low Written On The Forehead placed. I'd guess at mad vote splitting with virtually every song getting at least a vote.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 April 2013 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

in the dark places was my number 6 i think? my top track on LES, just amazing, and criminally low here imho

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 April 2013 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

so y'all don't rate "the glorious land"? i figured it was a lock, easily my favorite thing on the album.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

LES is so of a piece that I have trouble remembering songs -- one of the few albums I like about which this is a compliment.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

I'd like to see Battleship place too but I had to draw the line at five songs on my ballot, otherwise I'd have voted for pretty much the whole thing.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

"the glorious land" is top-tier LES for me, i expect it pretty high

"written on the forehead" is ok and works in the album, esp as the one song that drags the album into the (relatively) present day, but as a song it's also about as inessential as LES gets: i still remember thinking "oh noooooo, PJH has finally gone bad" when it was the lead single

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

i definitely don't think LES is too much of a piece that the (best) songs don't work by themselves

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

Written was my #3. That Niney sample works insanely well.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

32. Send His Love To Me (To Bring You My Love) - 159 points, 7 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

love the rolling organ

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

hmmmmm this was always "c'mon billy" but less good to me

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

do you want Polly Jean to be good to you

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

http://thefilmexperience.net/storage/1960s/TheHustlerNewman.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1302192205001

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

31. The Whores Hustle And The Hustlers Whore (Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea) - 165 points, 1 number one, 7 votes

BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

I voted for this. She sounds nice and angry.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 April 2013 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

Meanwhile after getting schooled by Jonathan Bernstein last summer, Kevin Williamson writes about civil rights some more.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

wrong thread but still apt!

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.trendir.com/outdoors/terrain-nyc-unfolding-rooftop-terrace.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

30. You Said Something (Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea) - 175 points, 7 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

?!!! THIRTY?

I figured that would be top 3.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

?!!! THIRTY?

I figured it would be NOWHERE TO BE SEEN -_-

stop voting for stories trax y'all

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

seriously only two ITD? trax have placed and at least a third of the top 30 now needs to consist of that album for justice to be done

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't see that getting nearly the same amount of votes as "The Whores Hustle" and "This is Love" ... I definitely didn't see those two songs each getting first place votes while "You Said Something" got none.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

at least we are getting these tracks out of the way. i figure there can only be 2 more?

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

My problem with "You Said Something" is that neither the music nor arrangement are interesting enough to swathe the "something" in mystery.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

seriously dng love for "the whores hustle" it's kind of dumb

horseshoe, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

alfred otm, "something" just feels like a placeholder word that she forgot to replace

"the whores hustle" is a gigantic dumb cliché but it's almost more forgiveable if you embrace it on that level; "you said something" is just blahhhhhhhh

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

whores hustle has some kind of energy to it i guess? the person who voted it #1 should post an impassioned apologia

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

i think this is because i am a lol english major and can't get past how dumb the lyrics are. i guess it sounds okay.

horseshoe, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XCBOySXv6yw/UDj_8mLFK2I/AAAAAAAAA3c/3aXpuKXIkKc/s1600/iStock_000003880585XSmall%5B1%5D.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

i should have voted in this. i am a criminal.

horseshoe, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

WAIT. "Fountain" is 58 and "Whores Hustle" is 31???????

horseshoe, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

"The Whores Hustle" is a bit dumb if you just look at the lyrics and view it as a stab at writing a gritty "streets of NYC" kind of thing but it ROCKS so I'd rather not nitpick.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

ON my HILL i WAIT for WIND

horseshoe, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

^ My number 4, love that song, the tension all the way through building up to

my I for
on hill wait wind

― BBC 'Witch' Song (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:17 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

horseshoe, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

29. Big Exit (Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea) - 175 points, 9 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

ON my HILL i WAIT for WIND
^
exactly

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

"Beautiful Feeling" is a better take on what she aims for in "You Said Something."

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

now "Big Exit" is a helluva openier

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

ON my HILL i WAIT for WIND

so she's standing outside waiting for someone to fart on her, is my takeaway

(btw I don't remember the song at all)

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

"big exit" slays live but smfh @ this trolling over-representation of this fucking album

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

yeah what is happening

horseshoe, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

i don't want to pit the different polly jeans against each other; i love them all. but seriously.

horseshoe, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

maybe people like it?

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

i like it too tbf. i think i like Dry more than ilx does, though

horseshoe, Monday, 29 April 2013 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

Soooooooo tempted to falsify the results at this point and just keep posting Stories from the... tracks until Lex explodes.

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

xp there is lots to come from dry tho, whereas we have got everything but good feeling out of the way by #29

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

fwiwimo 'the whores blah, blah, blah' does nothing for me, 'you said something' is inoffensive but a little dull, 'big exit' is great

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

good fortune

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

i am assuming good fortune, i thought big exit was the big fave off that album and was going to place way too high

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

whereas we have got everything but good feeling out of the way by #29

TS: Good Feeling v A Beautiful Fortune

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

this song isn't called good feeling and that's not what it's about

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

My problem with "You Said Something" is that neither the music nor arrangement are interesting enough to swathe the "something" in mystery.

FWIW, I don't think it matters what the "something" was. The music helps to paint a picture right up until the moment that everything changed (or so we assume), it's carefree without being particularly positive or joyful, and the contrast between that feeling and the knowledge (or so we assume) that something bad is about to happen is what makes the song poignant.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:08 (thirteen years ago)

the knowledge (or so we assume) that something bad is about to happen

I don't make that assumption

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

http://greenlifegeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/wind.png

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

28. The Wind (Is This Desire?) - 180 points, 10 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

so she could waaaashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

sssshhhhhhhh

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

i always thought the "something" in that song was a declaration of love. is that too pat? does that possibly reflect my feelings about that album?

horseshoe, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

nothing about "the wind" in the context of PJH's discography should work; everything does. the entrance of that high head voice is such a moment

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

and that two-note string part

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

whores hustle has some kind of energy to it i guess? the person who voted it #1 should post an impassioned apologia

I was away for awhile when this placed hence my delay. I proudly voted Whores Hustle as my #1. The last 40 seconds or so, the high note on "to the core" and the ensuing riff are the greatest moments in any PJ song, and sum up everything that makes her special.

Mr. Spirali, spare us the suspense. What is your #1? I bet it's got plenty of synths (which means you're a pussy) LOL

kornrulez6969, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

i always thought the "something" in that song was a declaration of love. is that too pat? does that possibly reflect my feelings about that album?

Hmmm ... I've always thought of it a relationship she thought (in hindsight) was too good to be true, lines like "and I am doing nothing wrong" and "acting like lovers" (i.e. acting out something that isn't real) are the clues.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

27. Is This Desire? (Is This Desire?) - 185 points, 1 first place, 8 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

This was in my top 5.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

I honestly have no idea what will be #1

kornrulez6969, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

I'm at the point in the countdown where I think boastfully to myself that the rest of my favorites are going to be in the top 25, surely, because they are the best.
Like obviously Angelene is going to be top 20.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

Her best album closer?

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

I think so

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

i was the no.1 voter for ITD! i absolutely love her controlled, deep voice on it - it's such a careful song.

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

"The Dancer" is her best album closer by a mile, but "Is This Desire" is probably second (I voted for it).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

PJH album closers:

1. is this desire?
2. the darker days of me & him
3. the dancer
4. the mountain
5. this wicked tongue
6. the colour of the earth
7. water
8. cracks in the canvas
9. lost fun zone
10. ecstasy
11. goodnight

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 29 April 2013 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

lex, my top three exactly

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2013 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

Collaborative playlist - currently up to date

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 April 2013 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

which album closed with "This Wicked Tongue"?

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 April 2013 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

kornrulez6969 - i wasn't mocking your #1, it was a sincere request and i am glad you replied, i will listen to the track with your comments in mind. as far as my #1 is concerned, the top of my list was very unadventurous, and i think i'd actually be surprised if my 1 and 2 don't fall in the top 3. we'll see when we get there i guess.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 April 2013 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

looking at those closers together just makes me think closers are not a strong suit

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 April 2013 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

yup

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Monday, 29 April 2013 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

fwiwimo 'the whores blah, blah, blah' does nothing for me, 'you said something' is inoffensive but a little dull, 'big exit' is great

― The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, April 29, 2013 2:00 PM (1 hour ago)

otm. stories isn't a great album, but it's better than okay, and i understand why a lot of people dig it. it's got a patti smith vibe: tough, urban, romantic, steeped in but standing slightly outside mainstream radio rock. you're in the city, you're in love, specificity and words are kind of blown away in sweeping, soaring feelings. igi.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Monday, 29 April 2013 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

The Whores Hustles is a good title but easy (it's a fun game to come up with equivalents), and the song is kinda OK in that it reminds you of earlier glories, but in the bit where she's singing "Speak to me of heroin and speed / Of genocide and suicide, of syphilis and greed" it's too obvious she doesn't know what she's talking about. Bobby Gillespie would be mocked for this kind of gibberish.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 29 April 2013 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

Who cares about the lyrics? It's my favorite song of hers and I have no clue what it's about. It's all about the last 30 seconds, the high note, the riff, perfection.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:29 (thirteen years ago)

so weird to me that 'big exit' and 'you said something' are the sftc trax so far that didn't get first place votes. knew all that sftc slagging off from twee types would backfire though.

balls, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:29 (thirteen years ago)

I was one of the two #1 votes for "This is Love". I adored it like no other song of hers the first time I heard it, and I still adore it today.... it's just so primal and lusty and dynamic (the way she gets all quiet and chilling on the verse before the final chorus). I'm loving the lack of predictability with this poll--can't imagine what will end up #1.

chris_coolidge, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:07 (thirteen years ago)

"but in the bit where she's singing "Speak to me of heroin and speed / Of genocide and suicide, of syphilis and greed" it's too obvious she doesn't know what she's talking about."

ahah i've always thought that too.

charlie h, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:16 (thirteen years ago)

"This Wicked Tongue" is a bonus track/b-side that got appended to the Japanese version of Stories, I think even the UK version has "We Float" as the closer.

Hoster Tulleee, Lord of Riverrun, Past Eve and Adam's (Leee), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:39 (thirteen years ago)

Who cares about the lyrics?

This times a jillion.

Hoster Tulleee, Lord of Riverrun, Past Eve and Adam's (Leee), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:40 (thirteen years ago)

never liked how my version of Stories closed with "This Wicked Tongue". i think "We Float" consolidates the mood and themes of the album much better. that said, i've never really felt that that album goes very deep.

charlie h, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:54 (thirteen years ago)

apt then

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:59 (thirteen years ago)

"This Wicked Tongue" is a bonus track/b-side that got appended to the Japanese version of Stories, I think even the UK version has "We Float" as the closer.

― Hoster Tulleee, Lord of Riverrun, Past Eve and Adam's (Leee), Monday, April 29, 2013 10:39 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wondered as much. The only proper album with the song is Peel Sessions, which ends with the "You Come Through" from Peel's memorial.

On a related note, did you know there's a version of TBYML with 9 extra songs? IIRC, they only cut 20 numbers at the sessions.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 04:35 (thirteen years ago)


but in the bit where she's singing "Speak to me of heroin and speed / Of genocide and suicide, of syphilis and greed" it's too obvious she doesn't know what she's talking about.

She doesn't know about that stuff, so isn't she working about it?

Hoster Tulleee, Lord of Riverrun, Past Eve and Adam's (Leee), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 05:44 (thirteen years ago)

asking about it, you mean, yeah?

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 05:49 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, asking about it!

While working for the man!

I'm going to make this typo work.

Gregor Sansa (Leee), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 05:56 (thirteen years ago)

26. Let England Shake (Let England Shake) - 188 points, 1 first place, 9 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 06:21 (thirteen years ago)

"this wicked tongue" closes my version of stories (and all UK versions) - i guess it's a bonus track but i've lived with it as the closer all these years.

"let england shake" is SO GORGEOUS. if PJH's closers can be hit-and-miss, she does have a knack for POW openers.

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 08:07 (thirteen years ago)

well, half the time, anyway

1. let england shake
2. angelene
3. rid of me
4. to bring you my love
5. the devil
6. big exit
7. black hearted love
8. oh my lover
9. girl
10. the life and death of mr. badmouth

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 08:10 (thirteen years ago)

"Angelene" is her best opener imo, but yeah they're all great.

so weird to me that 'big exit' and 'you said something' are the sftc trax so far that didn't get first place votes. knew all that sftc slagging off from twee types would backfire though.

― balls, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:29 (7 hours ago) Permalink

FTR nothing on Stories rocks as hard as "The Sky Lit Up", "Joy" or "No Girl So Sweet". Typically my favourite PJ tunes are weighted towards her loudest but I don't find that anything on Stories could come close to matching the intensity or power of "Long Snake Moan" or "Taut" or "Missed" or "Legs" or "Happy and Bleeding" or "Sixteen, Fifteen, Fourteen" or etc. or etc. or etc.

Tim F, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 08:39 (thirteen years ago)

I actually think Let England Shake is the weakest track on that album, there's a flimsiness to it.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 08:56 (thirteen years ago)

All the Stories tracks that have placed here are very good to great, that album is let down but its weaker half really, but there's no reason why its better tracks shouldn't place. If I'd voted then The Whores Hustle would have been pretty high on my ballet, the bit where she shoots up a register is so great.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 08:58 (thirteen years ago)

Re: 'The Wind', I only realised recently that this got released as a single, which is kind of awesome (I was thinking about how there's never been a PJ 'best of' and how great a listen a chronological singles collection would be).

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:05 (thirteen years ago)

I really liked the version of Let England Shake she debuted on Andrew Marr where the Istanbul not Constantinople bit is a vocal loop. She probably made the right call reducing the sample to the melody but - that early version would get jarring on the album but it's so odd and sinister.

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:05 (thirteen years ago)

FTR nothing on Stories rocks as hard as "The Sky Lit Up", "Joy" or "No Girl So Sweet".

otm

my beef with stories is how toothless it is when it tries to "rock", about three songs excepted. "you said something" exemplifies this

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

SMDH 'You Said Something' isn't trying to rock.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:40 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah that's its charm. This Is Love is trying to rock; You Said Something is warm and blissed out.

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:45 (thirteen years ago)

Keepers from Stories - Big Exit, Good Fortune, The Whores Hustle, You Said Something, Kamikaze, Is This Love, We Float.

That's more than I remember actually.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:57 (thirteen years ago)

Actually now I think about it, Kamikaze is a bit of a second-rate The Sky Lit Up but I still enjoy it.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:59 (thirteen years ago)

"We Float", seriously Matt?

Tim F, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 10:27 (thirteen years ago)

It's not a candidate for this list by any stretch of the imagination but I enjoy its lightness.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

Stories really is remarkably spotty for such a lightweight album. one of the songs did snag my no. 3 spot iirc, so it's not y'know, totally irredeemable. i don't mind "We Float" so much, even though the trade off between unsettling verse and calm-after-the-storm chorus is a bit of an obvious trick.

charlie h, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, it's not a terrible song by any means. pretty great for what it is and probably her best album closer, imo. only complaint i'd make, and it applies to stories as a whole, is that she seems to stumble when trying to write more personal and tender lyrics (assuming that the album is more-or-less autobiographical). she's better when acting out in character, telling stories and/or examining ideas.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, it's not a terrible song by any means. pretty great for what it is and probably her best album closer, imo.

We Float better than Water, Ecstasy and The Dancer! That's just an amazing opinion. But fair enough.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

Insane

Tim F, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 12:03 (thirteen years ago)

okay, i desist. "water" is miles better, hadn't thought it through. i mean, "water" got decent placement on my ballot when "we float" wasn't ever in the running. not a fan of "ecstacy" tbh, grating in a bad way, and would put "we float" and "the dancer" about neck & neck.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

between "we float" and "the dancer", the former suffers for blandess, the latter for overwrought cavism.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

Lol I tried to google definition of "cavism" before the penny dropped.

Tim F, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

Right, here we go again...

25. On Battleship Hill (Let England Shake) - 195 points, 9 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

TOO LOW

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

yes seems low. can't help but figure with 24 songs still to go there are going to be a couple of major surprises to me.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, far too low

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

no song from dance hall at louse point has yet placed and i am starting to fear for "taut", the most likely :(

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

24. The Glorious Land (Let England Shake) - 197 points, 10 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

On Battleship Hill is the most beautiful thing in her œuvre, it deserved better

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't vote in this (was on holiday and don't really vote in these big polls anyway) but would've slung Civil War Correspondent a vote. xpost to Lex re Dance Hall

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

my obligatory "too low" bawking goes out for the glorious land. how could it NOT be top 10 on every ballot? what has gone wrong with this country?

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

Wow, what happened with "On Battleship Hill"? After sending in my ballot I started regretting not putting it at #1.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

Not guilty, I had it no.6. And Battleship at no.3

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

What would have been your no.1 Mr Poo?

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

(I don't believe you are really a colonel)

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

Probably something predictable like Man-Size or Sheela tbh

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

a we getting a cluster of LES tracks now?

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

The next one is a big favourite of mine. Before I started on my ballot I thought it had a chance for my no.1 spot, but in the end I put it sixth.

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.flowerpowerpictures.com/images/portfolio/8.jpg
&
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ipm/blue_pete_1975.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

FLOWER PONY!

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

You got it!

23. Flower Pony (Dance Hall at Louse Point)

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

too high

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

23. Plants and Rags (Dry) - 198 points, 10 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

i try to be 'honest' when i am doing these ballots, whatever that means, but when i saw i had this just missing out that seemed fucked up so i bumped it a couple spots. a long time favourite.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

man, the 20s got all the jams

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

I initially had it quite high, then when I started ranking them it dropped below nearly everything else on my shortlist

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

It's the exception to the 'Dry > Rid of Me for Klata Dinner Party' rule.

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrgc9c4VZ01qfy8tro1_500.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

24. The Glorious Land (Let England Shake) - 197 points, 10 votes

ooh ENG-GA-LAND

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

22. Dry (Rid of Me) - 204 points, 9 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

good pic

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

ok, i guess dry in this half of the rundown counts as a surprise to me

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

It's funny that for all Rid of Me's uncompromisingity, Dry is where it becomes unbearably raw for me

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

21. Rub Till It Bleeds (Rid of Me) - 208 points, 8 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

TOO LOW

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

I guess you couldn't find a suitable picture for "Rub Till It Bleeds" ...

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

You're quite right

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

That song really sounds like a cancer sore getting poked by a stick.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

all the perfumes of arabia will not sweeten this little hand

http://e08595.medialib.glogster.com/media/83/83b89d711258fdfd58756a47af07820ce70cba19cfeea07dce599863df07aee7/lady-macbeth-blood-jpg.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

"I'M CALLING YOU WEAK!!!" -- possibly her finest moment

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

"blood and fucking" indeed

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

listening to Dry for the first time in years... man this is great

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

20. A Place Called Home (Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea) - 213 points, 9 votes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m2NyS3IDjE

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

"Rub Til It Bleeds" is so great

God's truth, I'm not lying

Euler, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

even tho i actually like this song i am gonna offer up a "say what now?" at this juncture

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

one of my two sftc,,, picks. (the other being "You Said Something")

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

i think that what really impresses me about ROM - and rub til it bleeds is a good example as any of this - is that she is taking the ordinary insecurities of relationships - doubt and need, desire and fear - and blowing them up large like a bug under a microscope so that you can easily find yourself relating to this horrifying fatal attraction/misery stuff. and rather than flinch from it, she really gets stuck in, which makes it all the more hilarious to see the contrast with her in that film.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

Okay I've defended Stories up til now but A Place Called Home at #20 is ridiculous.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

Let's agree to disagree

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

I think 'Stories...' opens really strongly with three great tunes, then has a pretty good but not so strong mid-section, then tails off.

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

i think that what really impresses me about ROM - and rub til it bleeds is a good example as any of this - is that she is taking the ordinary insecurities of relationships - doubt and need, desire and fear - and blowing them up large like a bug under a microscope

She's one of the few songwriters who eschews the conventions of singer-songrwriters: painterly detail, situations. I guess that's why "Gothic" attaches itself to Harvey. I'd say it's closer to Romantic-capital-R.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.aquabumps.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/20090630-inferno-over-bondi.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

not certain but i am worried i hear thom yorke here

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

19. The Sky Lit Up (Is This Desire?) - 216 points, 10 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

lol. that's more like it

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

TOO LOW.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

This one increases my heart rate just thinking about it.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

oh thank god this beat all those boring stories tracks //// TOO LOW

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

if you think anything on stories rocks harder than this, god help you

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

I should give Stories... another shake, I hated it right off and sold it back. The only Polly I ever felt compelled to do so with.

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

^^ what I did to White Chalk.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

it's not even really that bad an album, would be perfectly adequate in most artists' discographies, it's just rating all these songs from it better than all of PJ HARVEY'S OTHER SONGS is complete insanity

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

I'm gonna WC another shot.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

18. To Bring You My Love (To Bring You My Love) - 222 points, 11 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

^^
It took me a while to like that album!

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

Frankly I wish id had my shit together to vote in this

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

figured that one to be a top ten lock.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/passtheremote/Russell%20Grant%20Strictly%20Come%20Dancing.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

17. The Dancer (To Bring You My Love) - 222 points, 2 first places, 9 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

AAHHH AHH

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

the furious round of anti-stories bawking - every dang time a track shows up - is getting kinda funny

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

in in that spirit, "rub til it bleeds" WAY too fucking low bok bok bok

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

i was hoping that "dancer" pic was a late arriving "to bring you my love" illo

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

ha, I thought of "Meet Ze Monsta"

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

Was away all day and I am shocked, shocked by the low placement of Dry. Geez people, that is a doozy.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

Rub Till It Bleeds (Rid of Me) - 208 points, 8 votes

my co-number 1, tho in a pinch i made it number 2 merely because of the other song's brief intro

mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 00:27 (thirteen years ago)

My TOO LOWS:
Plants and Rags
A Place Called Gome
THE DANCER

The slightly off kilter vocal melody in the chorus of P&R -- did Polly nick that from someplace, or did someone else later steal it from her? Because it sounds so epically familiar, like some alternate universe lullaby (obviously everyone wears eye patches and goatees in this universe).

The Dancer is my all-time favorite, was praying that it'd get top ten at least. Instead, I'm going to put on Stories as a balm for my disappointment.

Gregor Sansa (Leee), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 01:28 (thirteen years ago)

oh and TBYML title track also TOO LOW.

Gregor Sansa (Leee), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 01:32 (thirteen years ago)

voted plants and rags higher, but tbf there are a lot of great songs

mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 01:42 (thirteen years ago)

A Place Called Gome
I can't wait to hear this one

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 06:34 (thirteen years ago)

This is getting very tight now. 16 songs left (probably two more Stories songs among them!) and I've still got 14 songs I voted for yet to show up. It's not looking good for Me-Jane or Harder, but otherwise I'd expect my other choices to be in there... yet there are other songs that must be coming up too.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 11:00 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks to this poll I've started teaching myself how to play TBYML on the guitar

I wish I had voted in this

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

#1 has to be Rid of Me or Dress, right? With Down By the Water close behind.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:38 (thirteen years ago)

Most of my ballot has showed already and it's highly doubtful that my #1 will show at all.

Yes, I'm pouting.

Austin, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

Jeez, why do people like 'Down By The Water'? Is it because she got away with saying "whore" on the radio?

Okay, I'm done pouting now, I swear.

Austin, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

people like "Down By The Water" because is a great stomping beast of a song

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, cuz it's awesome, plus about different kinds of fish

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KTGe6_KI_U

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:58 (thirteen years ago)

it's interesting to go back through the albums and realize that the random song that keeps getting stuck in my head once a month is "Rid of Me"

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

Probably shouldn't have my hopes up for any Desert Sessions tracks ("Crawl Home," "A Girl Like Me")

billstevejim, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

http://unicorntheatre.com//media/images/Shows/Spring%2012/Tales-from-the-River-Thames-Main-Image.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

I'll probably do all the remaining tunes later on, but here's one to keep you going for now...

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

16. The River (Is This Desire?) - 234 points, 11 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

Incredible song

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

I can imagine Celine Dion covering it.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

Wow! Been to busy to follow this poll unfortunately, but good going ILM, "The River" is amazing.

LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.vipclean.co.uk/images/uploads/PAPER/kleenex%20mansize.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

15. Man-Size (Rid of Me) - 244 points, 12 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

Never liked this one much, but I do like women's imaginings of what it's like to be male - 'leather boots', 'iron knickers', and so forth

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

only 12 people out of 30 voting for man-size at all is something of a surprise

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

I don't really like it, prefer the sextet version, but not wild on that either

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

A quick recap:

60 Ecstasy
59 We Float
58 The Darker Days of Me and Him
57 Snake
56 Fountain
55 One Line
54 The Mountain
53 Easy
52 The Last Living Rose
51 Black Hearted Love
50 Meet Ze Monsta
49 Working for the man
48 White Chalk
47 All and Everyone
46 Victory
45 The Devil
44 Legs
43 Catherine
42 The Garden
41 The Letter
40 Water
39 When Under Ether
38 Written on the Forehead
37 Reeling
36 O Stella
35 The Piano
34 This Is Love
33 In The Dark Places
32 Send His Love To Me
31 The Whores Hustle…
30 You Said Something
29 Big Exit
28 The Wind
27 Is This Desire?
26 Let England Shake
25 On Battleship Hill
24 The Glorious Land
23 Plants and Rags
22 Dry
21 Rub Till It Bleeds
20 A Place Called Home
19 The Sky Lit Up
18 To Bring You My Love
17 The Dancer
16 The River
15 Man-Size

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

i like it a lot but it didn't make my ballot

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

the single was the first thing of hers i got, and prompted me to buy Dry, which was a thing i did at the time for some reason, like a song and then buy a different album

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

Collaborative playlist still going here. It must be missing a couple, but I can't immediately see which.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Lesser_Bird_of_Paradise.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:03 (thirteen years ago)

My number two coming up...

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:06 (thirteen years ago)

14. Good Fortune (Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea) - 278 points, 12 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDBZZ3uvimE

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

back in about an hour

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

1) are we finally done with stories now
2) how is it that every lesser cliché seemed to place but "this wicked tongue" - one of its TWO great songs - failed to?

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

Eight is too many.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

daaaamn. So high.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

Got a feeling that the Thom Yorke song might show up.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

you shut up

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

even the mere mention of it is making my blood boil

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

I felt sure Desperate Kingdom of Love would place but I doubt it now. Uh Huh Her's been given the bum's rush.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

Good Fortune is probably her best attempt at writing a straight-up pop song actually.

I'm not really that keen on To Bring You My Love but The Dancer is still amazing.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

White Chalk hasn't done too well either, I was hoping for Silence, which is an incredible song but we must be too high up for that by now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

Actually I can only think of eight or so songs that will definitely place, so there could still be a few surprised in there.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

Uh Huh Her's been given the bum's rush.

as glad as i am as my personal fav off UHH scraped in, i agree. no "the slow drug" or "it's you" :(

dance hall at louse point has been so majorly shafted - imo it's smack bang in the middle of her (first!) imperial phase and yet not represented AT ALL -_-

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:04 (thirteen years ago)

I'm many places delayed in responding, but "Sky Lit Up" was my #2. Totally exhilarating song. She sounds like she owns the world.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

I can think of 11 certs.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

the parish stuff is just less known than her main stuff i think. i was sufficiently umipressed by 'that was my veil' to not be in any way curious about either album until the positive mentions in the voting thread

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:07 (thirteen years ago)

umipressed

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

I can think of 12 songs still to come that are certs to place.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

yeah "that was my veil" is ok but not a particular standout

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

Were the Tricky and Nick Cave collaborations eligible, just out of interest?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't see DL's post before I wrote that, if it looks like measly one-upmanship.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

i considered collabs where PJH wasn't the main artist ineligible (inc. desert sessions too)

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:10 (thirteen years ago)

xp Ha ha. It's fine. [struggles to think of 13]

The Tricky, Cave and Desert Sessions songs are all great but I didn't vote for them because I wasn't sure if they counted.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

just noticed that missed hasn't placed yet. we're higher than i would've expected but surely to god that has made it.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

it's funny, all this talk of certs reminded me of a discussion on the let england shake thread where someone referred to PJH's "hits" and i was super-confused because i'd never thought of her as having even that many fan hits, let alone hits in the wider world. i've heard very few of her songs outside album context, or even in any context where it wasn't me pressing play

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

"a perfect day elise" was her highest charting single!

AND IT HASN'T PLACED YET, IT HAD BETTER

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

I would've voted for Love Too Soon with Pascal Comelade if collaborations were included and if it wouldn't've been a wasted vote.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

She's had the most hits of any artist who's never made the top 20

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

A Perfect Day Elise is definitely coming. It's actually the closest she's come to a "straight-up pop song" imo.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

for all people talk about stories as containing her best pop songs, it was the only PJH album not to spawn a top 40 hit until white chalk

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

oh apart from dry i guess

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

"A Perfect Day Elise" is lock.

There are a *lot* of #1 votes still not accounted for too.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

fortuitous timing:

http://www.spin.com/articles/pj-harvey-rid-of-me-oral-history-steve-albini/

Salt Mama Celeste (donna rouge), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

Top 40 hits are an odd bunch:

50 ft Queenie
Down by the Water
C'mon Billy
Send His Love to Me
A Perfect Day Elise
The Wind
The Letter

Wiki discography reveals there was a 2008 mash-up of Good Fortune and Music Sounds Better With You!

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

That's a surprised ! rather than a that's-gotta-be-good !

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

Wiki discography reveals there was a 2008 mash-up of Good Fortune and Music Sounds Better With You!

\( •_•)_†

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

Wiki discography reveals there was a 2008 mash-up of Good Fortune and Music Sounds Better With You!

Wow that managed to be several years too late with every single element.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

lol

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

the only Youtube video I can find is unavailable in the US, boo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNbTFq9NcUs

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

Did Sheela-na-gig not chart then? It was definitely played on the radio because that's where I first heard her. Though thinking about it, it was probably on the indie-ish early evening thing on Radio 1 (was it still Mark Goodier in 1992? or Steve Lamaq?).

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

I've only ever heard it on campus radio.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

Sneaked in at no.60, which was okay for a piddly little label back then. Pretty sure it was still Goodier in 1992

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

it's funny, all this talk of certs reminded me of a discussion on the let england shake thread where someone referred to PJH's "hits" and i was super-confused because i'd never thought of her as having even that many fan hits, let alone hits in the wider world. i've heard very few of her songs outside album context, or even in any context where it wasn't me pressing play

Yeah, to be honest I had no idea which tracks had been singles until I started on this poll (apart from S-n-g which I bought on 7")

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

no.69 rather. 'Radio 1's NEW MUSIC leader' iirc

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

http://media.ticketmaster.co.uk/tm/en-gb/dbimages/10519a.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I mean, what I said doesn't mean it wasn't released as a single. Tonnes of 7"s out there that never get airplay.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

She hasn't had a single chart in nearly ten years!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

13. C'Mon Billy (To Bring You My Love) - 285 points, 1 first place, 13 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

not a fan tbh

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

it seemed like a weird single choice at the time, altho clearly people like it so phaps i am just missing something

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

i was expecting this in the top 5 at least :(

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

Love C'mon Billy. My #4 I think.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

it was the first PJH song i ever heard

it's so...concise, not a moment wasted

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

and her growl! "RAIIIRRRLLLL remember"

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:42 (thirteen years ago)

Found this in the related videos for that awful mashup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u75Qtit-lng

Austin, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

1) Start playing youtube clip above
2) Think to self 'I'd like to see the tracklist'. Decide to copy the url into another window.
3) Start watching the youtube clip in new window (with tracklist below).
4) The music to 'Let England Shake' starts up, PJH starts singing
5) The band arrive on stage and prepare themselves to perform despite the fact they are already well into the song without touching their instruments
6) The band start doing a bizarre mashup of two versions of 'Let England Shake' simultaneously which greatly confuses me
7) I remember that I hadn't stopped the first youtube clip and curse my stupidity

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

It's good. On Battleship Hill (50:15) should've won this. She's left us a wonderful legacy, and we've fucked it up.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.vyperlook.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/49-feet-long-snake.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

12. Long Snake Moan (To Bring You My Love) - 296 points, 2 first places, 13 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit re: live "On Battleship Hill"

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

didn't know 'c'mon billy' had been a single, sorta odd that 'down by the water' should be such a bigger hit in the us (#2 altrock vs not charting). what did chart from her in the us is curious (and surprisingly representative and strong) - 'sheela-na-gig' hit #9 altrock, 'down by the water' #2, and 'a perfect day elise' #33. i can remember 'good fortune' getting strong mtv and mtv2 play and 'this is love' getting a push at radio but altrock radio had gone strictly nu-metal and nickelcreed by that point. her highest charting album in the us is quite a surprise also, obv soundscan anomaly during slow week etc.

balls, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.inyourpocket.com/gallery/item_7137.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

My no.1. I adore it.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

MO-HOOOAAN

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

her highest charting album in the us is quite a surprise also

To Bring You My Love, right? Why would that be a surprise? "Down by the Water" was easily her biggest hit this side of the Atlantic.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

UHH!

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

13. Yuri-G (Rid of Me) - 309 points, 4 first places, 12 votes

More first place votes than any other track bar one (my number 13 fwiw).

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

uh huh her is her highest charting album in the us

balls, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

UHH!


Oh, I was thinking "best-selling" as opposed to "highest-charting". Yeah, charts don't mean the same thing in the 21st century.
xpost

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

wow @ 1st place love for yuri-g. great song, v near miss on my ballot.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

whoa had no idea "yuri-g" was so popular, think it narrowly missed my ballot (i prefer the 4TD version)

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxo0W_oXoK8

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

The second side of Rid of Me is amazing - thrill after thrill - and Yuri-G might be the best of it.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

sorta odd that 'down by the water' should be such a bigger hit in the us (#2 altrock vs not charting).

tbh "Down By the Water" and "Sheela-Na-Gig" and "Broken Homes" (because Tricky) were the only PJ Harvey hits I heard on college radio, period. In my neck of the woods she was a non-entity.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

So, into the top ten...

The next one was my number one. I wouldn't have guessed it would end up being my number one, it's certainly not the track I've listened to the most, but it's the one I liked most while making my ballot.

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

can you do a quick recap

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

Yuri-G TOO LOW! (I'm one of the #1's)

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

10. Oh My Lover (Dry) - 323 points, 3 first places, 11 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

'sheela-na-gig' doing that well on modern rock chart kinda representative of that brief post-nirvana window when modern rock radio blew up and consultants still didn't know how to professionally program it just yet (and the 80s kroq template was dying or dead) and so if something was a huge sensation on college radio (and esp if it had major label distribution) modern rock radio could spin it as a big deal even if a huge chunk of their audience weren't sure why exactly - helmet the obv example but also pj harvey apparently and i can remember the atlanta modern rock station hyping up the premiere of the new pavement single. that era ended pretty quick - indie artists blanched at mainstream success, much of college radio cut their ties to 120 minutes college rock to an extent that an artist as mainstream as pj harvey couldn't get near their playlists, the consultants figured out a system, live and hootie happened.

balls, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

can you do a quick recap?
I did one a bit earlier: here

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

ah okay, was wondering if "Send His Love To Me" had placed already (#32)

thx

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

oh my lover is str8 amazing. first of my evidently boring top 5 to place

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I remember there was a window when you could still hear things like Morrissey and Smashing Pumpkins during the general music programmes on the Carleton station.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

"Oh My lover" v good: OTM.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

Oh My Lover is legit great. Agree that you maybe wouldn't think so 'til you're listening to it.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

i was in iceland when tbyml came out but i can remember coming home on leave nearly a year after 'down by the water' came out and hearing it w/ some regularity on the radio. i can remember seeing 'a perfect day elise' and 'broken homes' a ton on the box (sometimes i think i miss the box more than i miss 'old mtv'). love 'broken homes' but never considered voting for it - it's a tricky track for sure.

balls, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

Oh My Lover is fantastic. I remember buying Dry in 1992 without having heard a note of PJ Harvey - based on an NME or Melody Maker review - getting home and then the first song on the album was ridiculously exciting. At that time, I just liked what everyone else liked - Stone Roses/Ride/The Smiths - and this was the first thing I'd found that departed from that slightly. I had Oh My Lover at #3, but my top 3 are pretty interchangeable.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

9. A Perfect Day Elise (Is This Desire?) - 329 points, 16 votes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3tD9EPOEik

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

as seen on the box!

balls, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

LOVE this so much

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

as seen on the box!

I don't think I've ever seen it in colour before. I saw it on MTV-Italia on a black-and-white mini TV that you had tune to channels with a dial.

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

Yuri-G my #1, love how the chorus roars in every way, & love the interlocking of the guitars & vocals. & I've been confused by its sexuality ever since which is obv a huge plus

Euler, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

http://softsupplier.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/big_fish_little_fish.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

8. Down By The Water (To Bring You My Love) - 332 points, 1 first place, 14 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

last few are all among my favorites, esp yuri-g (my #1). long snake moan was a near miss on my ballot, but no complaints.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah getting good now. "Long Snake Moan" was my number one.

Tim F, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbq4G1TjKYg&NR=1&feature=endscreen

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

i am starting to fear for one or two of my preciouses here tbqh. i have a good guess at what's left but i am steeled for disappointment

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

7. The Words That Maketh Murder (Let England Shake) - 337 points, 1 first place, 15 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

Too high. What'm I missing there?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

i really love "the words that maketh murder" by i'll never understand why it seems so preferred over any other LES track

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

Take it to the United Nations...

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

very good song. i had it somewhere late on my ballot but i suspected it had missed out by this point. 2nd single off LES i think?

figure that is a final dagger in the gizzard of 'missed'. for shame.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

wow @ four 1sts for "Yuri-G". If I'd remembered how much the 4TD version kills before sending my ballot then I probably would have voted for it. But I probably voted for too many ROM-era songs already.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

it is preferred because it easily one of the best (two) tracks on the album. great summary statement, everything else seems to spin out from there.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

mentally replaying it, 'words...' is catchy as fuck tbh, it can't be too surprising this high

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:05 (thirteen years ago)

Pointless interlude, but re: I saw it on MTV-Italia on a black-and-white mini TV that you had tune to channels with a dial, to put in perspective just how good 'A Perfect Day Elise' seemed to me at that time you have to see it in the context of the other music shown (and the fact I understood hardly a word of Italian at that time). This was one tune I was regularly treated to around Sep/Oct 98:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlwFygkAw9w

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, I like that one

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

I like the sudden transition after 2 minutes of gothic Dr Who style horror into dazzling colours and sunglasses. Anyway....

6. Angelene (Is this desire?) - 360 points, 15 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

^^^ wow!

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

great to see this so high

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

shocka! not one of my favorites, but a fine and admirable sally nonetheless.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

Good track. I slightly unfairly marked it down a bit for pastiche, but it's worth its high place imo.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

Ha!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

5. Missed (Rid Of Me) – 362 points, 1 first place, 17 votes

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

I was pleased you went for 22 rather than 20, it meant I could sneak this one a vote

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:36 (thirteen years ago)

I randomly went for 22 when I did the Blur poll a couple of years ago just because it meant that the bottom-placed track on each ballot got 10 points, which seemed somehow more satisfying than 12. I didn't realise that poll was going to lead to this huge never-ending series of polls. Somewhere down the line my 22-tracks thing got rationalised to 20 by everyone else. I'm keeping it real.

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

Missed is probably the biggest surprise here. I voted for it, but didn't think it would be that popular. In fact I massively underestimated the appeal of 'Rid of Me' (the album) in general.

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

wow, glad i was wrong on missed but that means we are done with LES and some ppl will be disappointed at one exclusion i guess.

anyway, just wonderful track, the whole 1st 4 of ROM should've been top 20 imo.

and angelene, beautiful, beautiful song. no #1 love is a little sad. i really thought about it.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

I guessed that 22 was an homage to old world cup squads before they added an extra goalie place - that's all that number means to me anyhow.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

There's a huge leap up of more than 100 points between 5th and 4th place.

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

is "Angelene" this poll's "Sway"?

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8hfyP3kULww/TLiShmhOoEI/AAAAAAAAAiQ/9kIjvhbC3ik/s1600/GoddessSheelaNaGigReliefD-88.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i had guessed the top 4 would separate themselves altho you can never be too sure

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

'Missed' and 'Angelene' both in my top 5.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:49 (thirteen years ago)

looks like the whole top 5 will be from her first two albums - i like/love all of them (obv guessing the last 3) but in the context of such a discography it's a bit disappointing that the implication is she peaked at the start

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't even consider voting for this - felt like such an idiot, I tell you, when I saw her blazing through it on that documentary.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

agree xp

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

4. Sheela-Na-Gig (Dry) – 460 points, 19 votes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkS_R7RDuMc

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:54 (thirteen years ago)

what an amazing single!

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

it's a bit disappointing that the implication is she peaked at the start

You could look at it that way, or you could say that people have had 20+ years for those songs to be so wholly absorbed that calling them favorites is just instinctual.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

(Though, truth be told, there's a huge gap in quality between the first two and everything else in her discography imo.)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

Sheela is obviously great, but I always link it to the other single on Dry, whose oddness beats Sheela's indie hookiness. That's why I didn't vote for it. No number ones for it either.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

(xps) I loved it (Sheela-na-gig) at the time, but for some reason it feels trapped in 1992 to me (while most of 'Dry' seems timeless).

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

(Though, truth be told, there's a huge gap in quality between the first two and everything else in her discography imo.)

absolutely not, unless you mean everything else is a huge step UP

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

I feel like she has four 5-star albums:

Dry
ROM
TBYML
LES

the others are 4-star

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

OTM

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

I was ambivalent about LES on its release but, boy, did it sneak up on me. 4.5 stars.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

I *thought* (i.e. this is not necessarily my opinion of the albums) that she was kind of regarded as a step-forward-step-back artist. So I thought 'Dry' was a big deal, 'Rid of me' was seen as a bit of a deliberately awkward retreat, 'To Bring You My Love' was the breakthrough, 'Is This Desire?' was relatively ignored, 'Stories from...' won the Mercury Prize, 'White Chalk' I didn't even notice, 'Let England Shake' critically acclaimed and another Mercury Prize.

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

love the old guy backing vox on twtmm

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://australiafirstparty.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/queenie.jpg

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

5: ITD, LES, TBYML
4: DHALP, WC, D, 4TD
3.5: UHH
3: ROM, AWAMWB, SFTCSFTS

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

actually I think ITD is 4.5 stars, upon reflection

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

queue "Joy" before The Knife's "Full of Fire." Go on.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

3. 50ft Queenie (Rid of Me) - 488 points, 1 first place, 18 votes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKLiU7Hq93w

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

I had Queenie at no.2 but I never understood what it's supposed to mean

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

wow, the placement of "missed" is the biggest surprise so far. i never even considered voting for it.

everything else otm

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

Missed is a really good song, but one I never remember the name of until it comes on and I look at the tracklisting.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe "Missed" is the "Sway" then...

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

glory glory lay it all on me

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

If the next two go in alphabetical order they'll match my 1-2.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

I'm hoping #1 is my own #1, but my #2 was Yuri-G.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

I had Queenie at no.2 but I never understood what it's supposed to mean

Think I understand what it's supposed to mean. The one I don't get is Down By The Water, which sounds like it's supposed to be a pretty straightforward narrative but I've never managed to untangle it.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

i would like to hear an explanation on queenie if there is one going. it always seemed to me like a parody of the grotesqueries of male sexuality but i am sure there is more to it.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

50ft. Queenie is about how her dick's bigger than yours, mine & ours.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:18 (thirteen years ago)

^ that's my understanding

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

2. Principles v Feelings (Automatic Dlamini)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr9K1MUmcuA

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

too low

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:22 (thirteen years ago)

Better than anything on Stories...

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

haha!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

slammm

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

it is amazing how bad that song is

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

2. Rid Of Me (Rid of Me) – 608 points, 2 first places, 23 votes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gvpvh4WYoA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzwG3r9_L9o

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

perfect alignment of youtubes!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

HUH

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

1. Dress (Dry) – 714 points, 6 first places, 25 votes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QySwGXrpHzw

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

wow, 6 #1 votes to 2, genuinely surprised.

how are 7 ppl out of 30 not voting for rid of me, ffs

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

Rid of Me was first place for me. Who else?

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

Can't argue with that top five (other than missing On Battleship Hill ffs) even if it is all from the first two

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

me xp

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

Who else?
Mr Spiralli, but it got quite a few second places as well.

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

that leno clip is so great.i can only imagine the reaction what that was broadcast. millions of people across america have no fucking idea what is happening right now

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

My ballot:
1 Oh My Lover
2 Good Fortune
3 Dress
4 Fountain
5 Big Exit
6 Plants and Rags
7 Happy and Bleeding
8 A Place Called Home
9 Rid of Me
10 Working For The Man
11 O Stella
12 A Perfect Day Elise
13 Yuri-G
14 The Words That Maketh Murder
15 Is This Desire?
16 Victory
17 Missed
18 Teclo
19 Ecstasy
20 The Sky Lit Up
21 C'mon Billy
22 Meet Ze Mostra

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

(Monsta, not Mostra - that's some weird typo from spotify)

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

great job NBS, thank you for doing that. great job voters too tbf

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

Mine

TRACKS

Dress - 40
Yuri-G - 36
You Said Something - 33
Sheela-Na-Gig - 30
The Piano - 28
The Slow Drug - 26
Rid of Me - 25
Reeling - 24
C'mon Billy - 23
O Stella - 22
When Under Ether - 21
Shame - 20
To Bring You My Love - 19
Man-Size - 18
Dry - 17
The Words That Maketh Murder - 16
The Chair - 15
Black Hearted Love - 14
This Is Love - 13
That Was My Veil - 12
The Letter - 11
Is That All There Is? - 10

ALBUMS

Dry - 10
Rid of Me - 8
4 Track Demos - 6
White Chalk - 4
Uh Huh Her - 2

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

1. Yuri G
2. 50ft Queenie
3. On Battleship Hill
4. It's You
5. Rid of Me

6. The Glorious Land
7. The Mountain
8. Dress
9. The Dancer
10. Big Exit

11. Reeling
12. Let England Shake
13. The Whores Hustle and the Hustlers Whore
14. Oh My Lover
15. The Devil

16. Silence
17. The Slow Drug

18. Legs
19. The Piano
20. The Soldier
21. Angelene
22. Missed

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

TRACKS

50 ft queenie
the dancer
rub til it bleeds
down by the water
on battleship hill
rid of me
written on the forehead
goodnight
you said something
long snake moan
snake
hook
the whores hustle and the hustlers whore
the mountain
the colour of the earth
ecstasy
a perfect day elise
missed
is this desire
the words that maketh murder
meet ze monsta
hanging in the wire

ALBUMS

Rid of Me
Let England Shake
To Bring You My Love
Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea
White Chalk

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

unless i am v much mistaken i can claim mr. consensus, 21/22

1. Rid Of Me
2. Dress
3. Angelene
4. Oh My Lover
5. Sheela Na Gig
6. In The Dark Places
7. 50ft Queenie
8. The Letter
9. The Garden
10. Man-Size
11. On Battleship Hill
12. The Devil
13. Let England Shake
14. Missed
15. Rub 'Til It Bleeds
16. The Piano
17. Fountain
18. Legs
19. The Words That Maketh Murder
20. Bows And Arrows
21. Plants & Rags
22. One Line

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

This was great NBS, many thanks. She has been so rewarding to discover and rediscover.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks all. I'll post the full countdown tomorrow.

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

I never really listened to "On Battleship Hill" in isolation before today, and I wish I had. WHAT A SONG

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

i think it won the album poll?

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I've listened to LES a number of times straight through, but never really picked it apart.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

tracks
1. dress
2. 50 ft queenie
3. catherine
4. bitter branches
5. joe
6. man-size
7. one time too many
8. wang dang doodle
9. down by the water
10. good fortune
11. sheela-na-gig
12. c'mon billy
13. a perfect day elise
14. we float
15. reeling
16. to bring you my love
17. taut
18. angelene
19. snake
20. the words that maketh murder
21. missed
22. big exit

albums
1. dry
2. to bring you my love
3. rid of me
4. 4-track demos
5. stories from the city, stories from the sea

balls, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

1. Rid of Me
2. Dress
3. Oh My Lover
4. Come On Billy
5. 50ft Queenie
6. Highway 61 Revisited
7. The Words that Maketh Murder
8. Me-Jane
9. Snake
10. Reeling
11. In the Dark Places
12. Harder
13. A Perfect Day Elise
14. The Piano
15. The Last Living Rose
16. Man Size
17. All And Everyone
18. On Battleship Hill
19. England
20. Long Snake Moan
21. Missed
22. The Dancer

ALBUMS

1 Rid of Me
2 Let England Shake
3 To Bring You My Love
4 Is This Desire?
5 Dry

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

Dress is a worthy winner. It's not her best song - her best song is probably on Let England Shake - but it remains the first track I'd play someone who'd never heard her before. It's kind of her I Want To Hold Your Hand.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

1. rid of me
.
2. let england shake
3. dry
(these almost inseparable tbh)
.
.
4. is this desire?
.
.
5. white chalk

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

Songs

1. Dress
2. Missed
3. Dry
4. Horses In My Dreams
5. C'mon Billy
6. Rub 'Til It Bleeds
7. Big Exit
8. Good Fortune
9. This Mess We're In
10. The Words That Maketh Murder
11. Rid Of Me
12. Victory
13. 50ft Queenie
14. The Whores Hustle And The Hustlers Whore
15. We Float
16. This Is Love
17. Let England Shake
18. Sheela-Na-Gig
19. Meet Ze Monsta
20. The Glorious Land
21. The Wind
22. The Sky Lit Up

Albums

1. Rid Of Me
2. Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea
3. Dry
4. Let England Shake
5. 4-Track Demos

nate woolls, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

xps yeah dress was a mixtape go-to for me

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

So glad BTW for this thread and the Spin oral history piece today because it made me obliquely remember this from 1993

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBtM0g-yZRU

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:56 (thirteen years ago)

01 Long Snake Moan
02 Rub 'Til It Bleeds
03 Man-Size
04 Rid of Me
05 Ecstasy
06 50ft Queenie
07 Sheela-Na-Gig
08 Yuri-G
09 The Whores Hustle and the Hustlers Whore
10 Plants and Rags
11 This Wicked Tongue
12 O Stella
13 Missed
14 Water
15 The Wind
16 A Perfect Day Elise
17 To Bring You My Love
18 The River
19 We Float
20 Somebody's Down, Somebody's Name
21 The Garden
22 The Colour of the Earth

mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

Mine!

1. This Is Love
2. Rid of Me
3. 50 Ft Queenie
4. To Bring You My Love
5. Is This Desire
6. Teclo
6. Sheela-Na-Gig
7. Kamikaze
8. Reeling
9. Highway 61 Revisited
10. Down by the Water
11. Long Snake Moan
12. Joe
13. The River
14. The Darker Days of Me & Him
15. Yuri-G
16. Big Exit
17. Meet Ze Monsta
18. Beautiful Feeling
19. As Close as This
20. Joy
21. This Glorious Land
22. The Knife
23. Dress
24. Dry
25. Happy and Bleeding

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

Yuri-G
Dress
Rid of Me
White Chalk
Teclo
Rub ‘til It Bleeds
Reeling
The Glorious Land
A Perfect Day Elise
Plants and Rags
Man-Size
The Wind
The Mess We’re In
Easy
Sheela-Na-Gig
Down by the Water
The Words that Maketh Murder
50 Ft. Queenie
Water
C’mon Billy
Maniac
When Under Ether

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 23:23 (thirteen years ago)

dress not even in my top half of fav songs from dry

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 23:32 (thirteen years ago)

It's the drums, cad. THE DRUMS!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's not bad but lover, sheela, plants, fountain, victory, stella are all better

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

nothing is better

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

ALBUMS

1. Is This Desire?
2. To Bring You My Love
3. Rid of Me
4. White Chalk
5. Let England Shake

TRACKS

1. Long Snake Moan
2. Angelene
3. Missed
4. A Perfect Day, Elise
5. Taut
6. Dress
7. The River
8. Grow Grow Grow
9. The Glorious Land
10. Legs
11. The Piano
12. C'mon Billy
13. Rope Bridge Crossing
14. My Beautiful Leah
15. Sheela-Na-Gig
16. The Dancer
17. The Sky Lit Up
18. Happy And Bleeding
19. Hanging In The Wire
20. Sixteen, Fifteen, Fourteen
21. Rub 'Til It Bleeds
22. One Line

Tim F, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

Many thanks to Mr. NBS for running the poll. There will always be a place for it in the Desperate Kingdom of Love of my heart.

My ballot:

1. The Whores Hustle and the Hustlers Whore
2. Missed
3. Good Fortune
4. Dry
5. Is This Desire?
6. Victory
7. You Said Something
8. Down By The Water
9. No Child Of Mine
10. Dress
11. The Sky Lit Up
12. The Last Living Rose
13. Sheela Na Gig
14. A Perfect Day Elise
15. Hook
16. 50ft Queenie
17. White Chalk
18. One Line
19. When Under Ether
20. Meet Ze Monsta
21. Stella
22. Hair

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 2 May 2013 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

TRACKS
This is Love
The Words That Maketh Murder
Sheela-Na-Gig
You Said Something
The Life and Death of Mr. Badmouth
Down By The Water
A Perfect Day Elise
Big Exit
The Wind
C'mon Billy
The Whores Hustle and The Hustlers Whore
In The Dark Places
The Letter
A Place Called Home
On Battleship Hill
The Darker Days of Me and Him
Good Fortune
Send His Love To Me
The Devil
Angelene
Bitter Branches
Is This Desire?

ALBUMS
Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea
Is This Desire?
Let England Shake
To Bring You My Love
Uh Huh Her

chris_coolidge, Thursday, 2 May 2013 00:34 (thirteen years ago)

Hmm, interesting poll. I disagree with a lot of what seems to be the consensus. Always fun to do these though. Thanks for doing the work NB+S!!

Here's my ballot:
Albums:
1) Is This Desire?
2) Let England Shake
3) White Chalk
4) Rid of Me
5) Dry

Songs:
1) Sweeter Than Anything
2) In the Dark Places
3) Black Hearted Love
4) Water
5) A Place Called Home
6) Is This Desire?
7) Civil War Correspondent
8) Missed
9) The Piano
10) Rid of Me
11) Sheela-Na-Gig
12) The River
13) Driving
14) Shame
15) Dress
16) That Was My Veil
17) The Glorious Land
18) Angelene
19) We Float
20) Plants and Rags
21) Dry
22) The Letter

Austin, Thursday, 2 May 2013 00:49 (thirteen years ago)

Tracks:

40. Yuri-G
36. Dress
33. The Words That Maketh Murder
30. Black-Hearted Love
28. You Said Something*
26. 50 ft. Queenie
25. To Bring You My Love
24. Sheela Na Gig
23. The Letter
22. Long Snake Moan**
21. Hook
20. This Glorious Land
19. Rid of Me
18. Man-Size
17. All and Everyone
16. A Place Called Home
15. Urn With Dead Flowers In A Drained Pool
14. Angelene
13. It's You
12. Meet Ze Monsta
11. Catherine
10. Written On The Forehead***

Elpees:

10. Rid of Me
8. Let England Shake
6. Is This Desire?*
4. Stories From The City...*
2. To Bring You My Love

*Probably over-rated these
**Should have swapped out with 28.
***Would have ranked this higher, but it felt like such a good playlist closer (all those "Let it burn"s) that it stayed there.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 May 2013 00:56 (thirteen years ago)

I'll catch up eventually when not posting from phone but seriously what is there to explain abt 50 Ft Queenie?! She's 50 inches long! She's a gigantic worm! Am I understanding correctly that O My Lover was shafted?

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 May 2013 02:03 (thirteen years ago)

no ways, #10!

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 May 2013 02:11 (thirteen years ago)

less that's shafted, in which case y

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 May 2013 02:12 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't vote, because I've never really overcome my disappointment with Bring You My Love, though I kept trying until Un Hunh. This thread has got me listening, and I shouldn't have oughta quit. Turns out I like White Chalk and Let England as much as the first two. Didn't get drawn in as they were being promoted, but I'm getting them now.

bendy, Thursday, 2 May 2013 02:19 (thirteen years ago)

Sorry I missed this whole convo -- but iirc that was my #1. 10th pl is respectable.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 May 2013 02:20 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, good results overall. could hardly go wrong tho...

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 May 2013 02:22 (thirteen years ago)

ballot:

TRAX

1. Is This Desire?
2. The Sky Lit Up
3. All And Everyone
4. Let England Shake
5. The River
6. Taut
7. Easy
8. The Darker Days Of Me & Him
9. A Perfect Day Elise
10. C'mon Billy
11. When Under Ether
12. The Glorious Land
13. Angelene
14. The Dancer
15. Urn With Dead Flowers In A Drained Pool
16. Long Snake Moan
17. The Wind
18. Dress
19. As Close As This
20. Hardly Wait
21. The Garden
22. This Wicked Tongue

ALBUMS

1. Is This Desire?
2. Let England Shake
3. To Bring You My Love
4. Dance Hall At Louse Point
5. White Chalk

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 May 2013 07:16 (thirteen years ago)

"Urn With Dead Flowers In A Drained Pool" is the track I most regret not voting for.

Tim F, Thursday, 2 May 2013 07:32 (thirteen years ago)

mine would be "the slow drug"

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 May 2013 07:34 (thirteen years ago)

as i've said, i really like the first two albums, but PJH as a truly interesting artist began when she went solo for me

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 May 2013 07:39 (thirteen years ago)

Tracks:

1. C'mon Billy
2. 50ft Queenie
3. A Place Called Home
4. Angelene
5. Missed
6. One Line
7. Catherine
8. Good Fortune
9. White Chalk
10. I Think I'm a Mother
11. That Was My Veil
12. Dress
13. Working for the Man
14. The Piano
15. The Wind
16. Rope Bridge Crossing
17. Shame
18. To Bring You My Love
19. The Garden
20. Big Exit
21. Memphis
22. Rid of Me

Albums:

1. To Bring You My Love
2. Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea
3. White Chalk
4. Is This Desire?
5. Dance Hall at Louse Point

Very much a 'how I felt on the day' ballot, my top 5 tracks could really be in any order. Also I think Stories has ended up being my favourite album again now, sorry guys!

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 2 May 2013 07:42 (thirteen years ago)

Lex is very much my PJH soulmate.

1. The Words That Maketh Murder
2. Rid of Me
3. Written on the Forehead
4. Down by the Water
5. Angelene
6. The Sky Lit Up
7. Dress
8. All and Everyone
9. A Perfect Day Elise
10. The Desperate Kingdom of Love
11. You Said Something
12. Long Snake Moan
13. The River
14. Let England Shake
15. The Devil
16. When Under Ether
17. The Wind
18. Pocket Knife
19. Hanging in the Wire
20. White Chalk
21. The Dancer
22. Meet Ze Monsta

But I did it in a hurry without revisiting all the songs so The Dancer is way too low.

Albums:

1. Let England Shake
2. Is This Desire?
3. To Bring You My Love
4. White Chalk
5. Rid of Me

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 2 May 2013 08:57 (thirteen years ago)

The ranking was a little bit of a chore, but somehow I picked the consensus fave.

Tracks
1 Dress
2 Victory
3 Working for the Man
4 Oh My Lover
5 The Dancer
6 Angelene
7 The Whores Hustle and the Hustlers Whore
8 Send His Love to Me
9 The Glorious Land
10 To Bring You My Love
11 Dear Darkness
12 The Garden
13 Dry
14 Fountain
15 Joe
16 The Darker Days of Me and Him
17 The Mountain
18 Kamikaze
19 Hip Shake
20 The Letter
21 O Stella
22 In the Dark Places

Albums
1 Dry
2 To Bring You My Love
3 Let England Shake
4 White Chalk
5 Is This Desire?

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 2 May 2013 09:18 (thirteen years ago)

I had been quietly tipping 50ft Queenie to make #1 am am overjoyed it made the top 3. First PJ Harvey record I'd ever heard (think I saw the video on MTV at the time) and at the time it felt like the most raucous thing I'd ever heard.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 May 2013 09:33 (thirteen years ago)

listened to let england shake for the first time last night. its outstanding.

you're going home in a crispy ambulance (cajunsunday), Thursday, 2 May 2013 11:07 (thirteen years ago)

The full chart:

1 Dress 25 714 6
2 Rid Of Me 23 608 2
3 50ft Queenie 18 488 1
4 Sheela-Na-Gig 19 460
5 Missed 17 362 1
6 Angelene 15 360
7 The Words That Maketh Murder 15 337 1
8 Down By The Water 14 332 1
9 A Perfect Day Elise 16 329
10 Oh My Lover 11 323 3
11 Yuri G 12 309 4
12 Long Snake Moan 13 296 2
13 C'Mon Billy 13 285 1
14 Good Fortune 12 278
15 Man-Size 12 244
16 The River 11 234
17 The Dancer 9 222 2
18 To Bring You My Love 11 222
19 The Sky Lit Up 10 216
20 A Place Called Home 9 213
21 Rub Till It Bleeds 8 208
22 Dry 9 204
23 Plants and Rags 10 198
24 The Glorious Land 10 197
25 On Battleship Hill 9 195
26 Let England Shake 9 188 1
27 Is This Desire? 8 185 1
28 The Wind 10 180
29 Big Exit 9 175
30 You Said Something 7 175
31 The Whores Hustle… 7 165 1
32 Send His Love To Me 7 159
33 In The Dark Places 8 158
34 This Is Love 6 140 2
35 The Piano 7 137
36 O Stella 8 132
37 Reeling 6 132
38 Written on the Forehead 6 130
39 When Under Ether 7 127
40 Water 6 124
41 The Letter 8 122
42 The Garden 7 116
43 Catherine 5 113
44 Legs 7 112
45 The Devil 6 112
46 Victory 5 110
47 All and Everyone 5 109
48 White Chalk 6 107
49 Working for the man 4 100
50 Meet Ze Monsta 8 97
51 Black Hearted Love 4 93
52 The Last Living Rose 4 90
53 Easy 4 88
54 The Mountain 5 87
55 One Line 5 86
56 Fountain 4 84
57 Snake 5 83
58 The Darker Days of Me and Him 5 83
59 We Float 5 81
60 Ecstasy 4 80
61 Dear Darkness 4 78
62 Highway 61 Revisited 3 76
63 Joe 4 76
64 This Mess We're In 4 74
65 Shame 4 70
66 Taut 3 69
67 Teclo 3 68
68 Bitter Branches 3 66
69 Horses in my dreams 3 66
70 That Was My Veil 4 66
71 Happy and Bleeding 3 64
72 The Slow Drug 3 61
73 Kamikaze 3 60
74 Hook 3 58
75 Grow Grow Grow 3 54
76 My Beautiful Leah 2 54
77 The Colour of the Earth 3 52
78 Urn with dead flowers… 3 51
79 Hanging in the Wire 4 50
80 Rope Bridge Crossing 3 47
81 It's You 2 43
82 Sweeter Than Anything 1 40 1
83 England 2 38
84 The Desperate Kingdom of Love 1 37
85 One Time Too Many 2 36
86 Wang Dang Doodle 2 34
87 Is That All There Is? 2 32
88 This Wicked Tongue 2 31
89 Hardly Wait 2 30
90 This Glorious Land 2 30
91 66 Promises 1 28
92 Somebody's Down, Some… 1 28
93 The Life and Death of Mr B… 1 28
94 Hair 2 27
95 As Close As This 2 25
96 Civil War Correspondent 1 25
97 Goodnight 1 24
98 Me Jane 1 24
99 No Child Of Mine 1 23
100 I Think I'm A Mother 1 22
101 Who the fuck? 1 21
102 Harder 1 20
103 Heela 1 20
104 Driving 1 19
105 Silence 1 16
106 The Chair 1 15
107 Pocket Knife 1 14
108 A woman walked../ the crow.. 1 13
109 Beautiful Feeling 1 13
110 Hip Shake 1 13
111 Bows and Arrows 1 12
112 The Soldier 1 12
113 Maniac 1 11
114 Memphis 1 11
115 Sixteen, Fifteen… 1 11
116 Un Cercle Autour du Soleil 1 10

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

(Apologies for the formatting) - first figure = no. of votes, second figure = total points, third figure (if there) = first places

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

I was the only voter for Desperate Kingdom of Love? You're all crazy.

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:20 (thirteen years ago)

i see no vote/point #s :(

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

weird, if i c/p the list elsewhere i can see the #, but i can't see them in the post itself

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

how bizarre

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:30 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks for doing the poll NBS, this was a lot of fun.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 2 May 2013 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

yeah thanks NBS!

i hope everyone who missed dance hall at the time goes back to check it out

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 May 2013 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Did any b-sides make it? :'-(

Gregor Sansa (Leee), Thursday, 2 May 2013 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

Reeling

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 May 2013 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

This the my last day on ILM. This poll reveals just how much shitiness in musical taste permeates this fine upper-crust of musical pros. And it's not just these judgments; in 10 years of reading and posting, only a handful of meaningful discussions have helped me discover new music and reveal new understandings. You experts are just as unsophisticated the pablum devouring public, and my early respect for many contributors to this site has been beaten down under the girth of far too much asshole flesh. Good fucking riddance.

suspecterrain, Thursday, 2 May 2013 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

"reeling" was on 4-track demos

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 May 2013 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

lol xp

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 May 2013 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

I don't even know what suspecterrain is referring to!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 May 2013 16:14 (thirteen years ago)

Was it too many tracks from Stories that broke the camel's back after 10 years?

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 2 May 2013 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

super-pissed that 'a woman a man walked by' got shafted i guess

Salt Mama Celeste (donna rouge), Thursday, 2 May 2013 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

it's realy sad, he was beaten down by fleshy assholes

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Thursday, 2 May 2013 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

"I put up with 10 years of this shitiness and then you fleshy assholes decide that A Place Called Home is better than On Battleship Hill? That's finally it. Fuck you all to hell!"

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 2 May 2013 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

on the plus side, I have a new display name

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 2 May 2013 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

Not quite Chaki level in terms of departure.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 May 2013 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

"You will taste on far too much asshole flesh!"

http://www.nothisown.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/574906-lotr_two132christopherlee_super.jpg

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 May 2013 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

i knew we shouldn't have made this poll experts only :/

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 2 May 2013 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

I love when someone makes a post about quitting and it's the first time you've ever seen them post.

polyphonic, Thursday, 2 May 2013 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

Gosh, suspecterrain was a real poster - I guess that kind of genius post only gets made once, but I still feel bad at never having noticed him before.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 May 2013 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

lol @ ilx as a bastion of "good taste". maybe in cat gifs.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 May 2013 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

But seriously, this had to be one of the least offensive threads in ILX history.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 May 2013 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

Pop music in itself is not dis-satisfying, but i tend to feel that it best serves children, the infirm, and neophytes.

― suspecterrain, Saturday, March 30, 2013 7:33 PM (1 month ago)

tick...tick...tick...

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 May 2013 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't vote, because I've never really overcome my disappointment with Bring You My Love, though I kept trying until Un Hunh. This thread has got me listening, and I shouldn't have oughta quit. Turns out I like White Chalk and Let England as much as the first two. Didn't get drawn in as they were being promoted, but I'm getting them now.

― bendy, Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thought this was a great poll/thread; hooray to NBS for doing it! My feelings mirror bendy's; TBYML was a major let-down, but I have some serious revisiting to do (although I recently listened to UHH again and nope, still can't get into it).

Also, Steve Vaughan never gets enough love. His bass was their secret weapon, and those first two records would be a lot less frightening/engaging without it.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 2 May 2013 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

My feelings mirror bendy's; TBYML was a major let-down, but I have some serious revisiting to do...

i went through exactly the same trajectory, and i can't urge you to revisit to bring you my love and is this desire? strongly enough. they're excellent albums, not perfect, but with lots to appreciate.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 May 2013 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

That used to be me too ... I remember being really stoked to hear the new PJH single and making a trip to a music store just to hear it. I was hoping for another "Rid Of Me", so "Down By the Water" was a total letdown. It took me years to really appreciate it (once I finally accepted that the PJH of 1991-3 was never coming back).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 2 May 2013 17:48 (thirteen years ago)

I remember hearing "Down By The Water" on the radio and thinking, "This better be the worst song on the record. Or not PJ Harvey."

I will revisit. But I never wanted her to repeat Dry and ROM, just to get more skronky in that vein (one reason I love 4TDs).

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 2 May 2013 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

"Down by the Water" might be the worst song on the record but as with all songs of the 120 Minutes pedigree I have endless nostalgia for it.

polyphonic, Thursday, 2 May 2013 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

'down by the water' was the first PJH song i ever heard and i was totally enchanted/mystified by that buzzy synth line. i still love it. the title track on TBYML was the hardest for me to accept at first, that guttural growling took some growing into

Salt Mama Celeste (donna rouge), Thursday, 2 May 2013 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

these TBYML reactions are insane to me; I basically bought that album blind based on how much I liked her previous work and was entranced from the first notes of the title track

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 2 May 2013 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

when rid of me came out, i remember reading so much about "pj harvey the BAND, not pj harvey the person" that it started to sound a bit defensive. you wouldn't stick your name on your band unless you viewed it as not just yours, but actually YOU, a direct extension of your inner self. with that in mind, i figured pj-harvey-the-band wouldn't last long, that she'd soon want to establish herself as an independent artist. so i wasn't at all surprised when she did just that and recorded to bring you my love. but i was still bummed, cuz i was way more into bands than singer-songwriters, more into scabrous rock, noise & punk than artful pop. at this remove, those divisions don't mean much to me, and i can hear what i was missing way back when. growing up isn't all bad.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 May 2013 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

i always did like "down by the water", though. still do. one of the best tracks on the album, imo, even after all the overplaying.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 May 2013 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

i was a huge nick cave and zooropa fan so tbyml was right up my alley

balls, Thursday, 2 May 2013 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

This the my last day on ILM. This poll reveals just how much shitiness in musical taste permeates this fine upper-crust of musical pros. And it's not just these judgments; in 10 years of reading and posting, only a handful of meaningful discussions have helped me discover new music and reveal new understandings. You experts are just as unsophisticated the pablum devouring public, and my early respect for many contributors to this site has been beaten down under the girth of far too much asshole flesh. Good fucking riddance.

― suspecterrain, Thursday, May 2, 2013 9:07 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mG8rUGhxtjo/TienW98ateI/AAAAAAAAF7c/L89kgODTgGs/s1600/funny_maraca_pic.jpg

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 2 May 2013 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

If that 10 years is right, the poor dude invested 6 years' lurking before working up the nerve for his first post. This gesture seems so noble now.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 May 2013 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

I've contributed plenty; learn to use the search tool. Under this name and "christoff" I have contributed and authored many discussions. Celebrating my exit without even knowing what I've put forth typifies the level of ignorance I've come to expect from this site. Piss off.

suspecterrain, Friday, 3 May 2013 02:01 (thirteen years ago)

christ off

groovy replacement (electricsound), Friday, 3 May 2013 02:02 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not celebrating your exit, I'm celebrating your return. Booming post.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 May 2013 06:18 (thirteen years ago)

  • I've contributed plenty; learn to use the search tool.
  • Under this name and "christoff" I have contributed and authored many discussions.
  • Celebrating my exit without even knowing what I've put forth typifies the level of ignorance I've come to expect from this site.
  • Piss off.
poll

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Friday, 3 May 2013 06:38 (thirteen years ago)

or just a cornucopia of board descriptions

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Friday, 3 May 2013 06:39 (thirteen years ago)

http://holebi.info/phpnews/images2/Christoff.jpg

buzza, Friday, 3 May 2013 06:42 (thirteen years ago)

But what did Christoff make of Down by the Water?

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 3 May 2013 10:45 (thirteen years ago)

i would like to know the specific complaints wrt this poll; what ignominy was the final insult

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 3 May 2013 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

I believe it was NBS counting the votes for Man-Size and Man-Size Sextet together

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 May 2013 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

tbf that was unsophisticated

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 3 May 2013 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

If there is a complaint to be had here (and this is nitpicking at its finest), mine would be that it seems like many people who voted played it safe went for the most obvious things. Not a lot of votes for White Chalk or Dance Hall but tons from Let England Shake and Stories — why is that?

And besides, 'Civil War Correspondent' got the shaft. I voted for a Desire b-side as my #1, knowing that I would probably be the only person to vote for that song, but 'Civil War Correspondent' deserved at least a place in the upper half of the rankings.

Again, this is all very much nitpicking and I thank NB+S for their time. Off to cast my ballot for the Sonic Youth poll!

Austin, Friday, 3 May 2013 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

many people who voted played it safe went for the most obvious things.

if only i liked less obvious things

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Friday, 3 May 2013 13:49 (thirteen years ago)

"Why is that?"

Because they're well-known albums and not everyone who votes in polls knows every album inside out. I agree with you that this poll, like most of them, isn't very good at picking out underrated gems even further down the list, but short of making everybody work through the back catalogue before voting, what can you do?

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 3 May 2013 13:50 (thirteen years ago)

lol why is it that her more popular and acclaimed albums got more attention than her less popular and acclaimed albums?

balls, Friday, 3 May 2013 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

you'd think a consensus poll of all things would allow the obscurities to win the day. How weird!!!!!

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 3 May 2013 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

I hope suspecterrain is ok, the way he went out was a little irrational.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 3 May 2013 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

Bands That Bow Out Gracefully

From the home of the underground railway and stuff (symsymsym), Friday, 3 May 2013 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

I thank NB+S for their time

I liked this sentiment, and I imagine nb&s are quite pleased about it too

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 May 2013 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

Definitely my favourite trio on ILX

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 3 May 2013 15:57 (thirteen years ago)

and i can't urge you to revisit to bring you my love and is this desire? strongly enough. they're excellent albums, not perfect, but with lots to appreciate.

I do like ITD pretty well, I'd now rank it after the first two and last two, but it doesn't quite hold together for me. TBYML still irks me, though there's plenty of parts I like. One of the things I adored about her early stuff was how she used the Birthday Party/Bad Seeds tools, but reflected them back - junkie-artschool-horror, but coming from a sober, shy female. TBYML was like she passed through mirror, no longer twisting the already-twisted blues, just trying to equal it.

bendy, Friday, 3 May 2013 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

these are some interesting thoughts, bendy. in that logic isn't tbyml the first album where she is really herself, where she has truly found her voice? could that be a reason why that album to me - ep. the tite song - sounds so emotionally warm and totally different from the first two? making that album seems to have taken a load of her mind. after all that raw blues-processing finally she had come home. btw "white chalk" seems another turning point in her career as a musician.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 3 May 2013 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

Definitely my favourite trio on ILX

We are a team of lawyers

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 3 May 2013 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

It's a testament to her artistry that every recent album signals a phase she doesn't bother to pursue.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 May 2013 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

Yes. It seemed that every album was a reaction against the previous one, up to Uh Huh Her, which was anti-Stories but also kind of a mess. I'd guess she realised at that point she was in danger just carry on putting out Uh Huh Hers for the rest of her career - collections of PJ Harvey-ish songs - with diminishing returns. This is the fate of a lot of musicians. The last two albums seemed to recognise that she had to raise her game, come up with more coherent ideas about why a new album ought to exist. Two years have passed since Let England Shake, so I hope that means we'll hear something about a new one some time in the next 12 months. The last two were notably high-concept records, and it's fascinating to speculate about what the big idea for the next one might be.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 3 May 2013 17:12 (thirteen years ago)

Well, like I said, I was in fact nitpicking, so in answer to myself: it's just a testament to how great and diverse PJ has been over the years that the poll could have had a completely different top ten and just as many people would have been happy and just as many would have been disappointed.

Austin, Friday, 3 May 2013 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

It does surprise me that many people seem to disregard Dance Hall At Louse Point entirely. It feels like a really representative album to me.

Tim F, Friday, 3 May 2013 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

I think it suffers from coming so quick on TMYML's heels, coming off like a followup that it wasn't. The reviews weren't near as positive, and speaking as a fan getting on the bus soon after (summer '97 picking up and getting blown away by RoM & TMYML over successive weeks), it never felt like an essential purchase. Hearing it now (got it cheap before the poll), it still feels like a letdown, but some essential tracks too.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 May 2013 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

I've contributed plenty; learn to use the search tool. Under this name and "christoff" I have contributed and authored many discussions. Celebrating my exit without even knowing what I've put forth typifies the level of ignorance I've come to expect from this site. Piss off.

― suspecterrain, Thursday, May 2, 2013 7:01 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa9LNPwZIGA

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 16 May 2013 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

After a week or two thinking of PJ, I decided to try to get vinyl versions of all of her albums. Already had Dry and the most recent two (plus A Woman A Man Walked By). I used to have Rid of Me before an ex borrowed it permanently. But they're pretty expensive! This afternoon I got a replacement Rid of Me for £42 and 4-Track Demos for £20 on ebay. There's an Uh Huh Her auction ending in half an hour, but it's at £43 already goddammit.

― Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, April 28, 2013 8:15 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Looks like her whole Island-era catalogue is being reissued on vinyl this month with download codes. Great news - the run from Is This Desire? to Uh Huh Her until now was especially expensive and there are a lot of fakes going around.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

Details on reissues please? UK only?

kwhitehead, Thursday, 6 June 2013 02:07 (thirteen years ago)

Sorry, don't know the details. All I know is that they're quietly appearing on a few websites with release dates later this month, e.g. http://www.musicdirect.com/p-136911-pj-harvey-stories-from-the-city-stories-from-the-sea-180g-import-lp.aspx.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 6 June 2013 13:42 (thirteen years ago)

four years pass...

"To Bring You My Love" is great on a recent re-listen. Has this album ever been polled? It's a transitional record between her racuous earlier blues punk material and what would become "Is This Desire". The gnarled low bass hum of tracks like " I think I'm a Mother" could easily have fit on "Is This Desire" with tracks like "Joy" and "My Beautiful Leah".

Unchanging Window (Ross), Friday, 9 June 2017 04:38 (eight years ago)

Had no clue this poll ever happened until now! Wish I'd been able to contribute, but great discussion.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 11 June 2017 22:13 (eight years ago)

three months pass...

dunk you
under
deep salt
water

mookieproof, Saturday, 30 September 2017 02:38 (eight years ago)

The two best PJ albums IMO are To Bring You My Love and Is This Desire. TBYML features some of her finest vocal performances ("TBYML" and "Teclo") and ITD is akin to PJ 's "Dreaming", an album full of diverse narrative characters, her most beautiful work IMO

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 30 September 2017 05:39 (eight years ago)

I honestly always go back to "Dry," everything after that has been degrees of bonus goodness.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 September 2017 19:47 (eight years ago)

there's a favorite PJ album for everyone
for me it's Rid of Me
that's how versatile she is!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:05 (eight years ago)

^ do you rate the 4 track demos?

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:39 (eight years ago)

LOVE the 4 track demos
love love love
it's how i learned how songs are built. i bought it when it came out

plus Easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhaqK9NdKEY

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:43 (eight years ago)

Here for the 4-Track Demos appreciation!

I guess Rid of Me, To Bring You My Love, Is This Desire?, White Chalk, and Let England Shake are all my favourites, each of them speaking to a different mood or perhaps to a different side of me. But she hasn't released a weak one in my opinion - even her messier and less cohesive efforts (i.e. Uh Huh Her) contain enough gems to redeem them. Such a stellar run of LPs.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:49 (eight years ago)

agree with you ʌglɪɪst preɪ, stories is my least favourite but it has "We Float", "Horses In My Dreams", "Kamikaze" and "One Line".

Feel like her last record with John Parrish is underrated - it's a curious record, opening with "Black Hearted Love" which is classic PJ, but then going into all sorts of tangents.

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 30 September 2017 22:21 (eight years ago)

I agree, it's way underrated. It might not be the most cohesive LP ever, but it definitely showcases their talents in many different fields, both John's as a composer/producer and Polly's as a lyricist/vocalist. The songs are so different from each other that they don't really hang together well - I guess it's partially why it's so underappreciated as an album - but damn, they are some good songs. And there are not many rock singers out there who can deliver vocal performances as different as "Leaving California," "The Chair," "April," and "A Woman a Man Walked By" - all over the course of 15 minutes on one record.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Saturday, 30 September 2017 23:06 (eight years ago)

was happy to see the crowd cheer for Parrish at the seattle show for the last tour. Basically you're speaking my langhuage prei, cheers.

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 30 September 2017 23:26 (eight years ago)

Dry is for sure one of the best debut records in history, like marquee moon ballpark. So fully formed and rich already.

4 track demos might be the one I've played the most though.

Only recently started brushing up on later stuff. Let England Shake is amazing + uncanny

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 1 October 2017 12:31 (eight years ago)

two years pass...

This was her Twitter post earlier. New remasters afoot? Some unusual titles/unheard stuff on these tapes from the look of it.. experts can say more i don't doubt.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYjIbTRX0AA5dgr?format=jpg

piscesx, Thursday, 21 May 2020 20:12 (six years ago)

"Clothes" and "He's Just My Type" have never been released, the rest is out there in some shape or form (though some, like "Primed & Ticking," are only live bootlegs). I wonder if it hints at actual reissues of the 90s stuff or it's just a case of bored PJ spending lockdown doing spring cleaning.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Thursday, 21 May 2020 21:24 (six years ago)

ooooooh this is exciting
feels good just looking at the song titles

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 May 2020 21:27 (six years ago)

Maybe she's going to release the Iggy Pop mix of "Rid of Me."

Seriously though, expanded reissues of those first few albums would be great, even though they all already sound pretty good (in their own respective ways).

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 May 2020 22:24 (six years ago)

Would be exciting... she's so boring on Instagram/Twitter though (which I'd expect her to be). Just a cycle of contextless old images that don't mean anything. I assumed this was just a shot of tapes of early mixes of old albums + related tracks that did not imply any current activity. Things she found in the back of a wardrobe. I would love to be wrong.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:31 (six years ago)

Her being “boring” on social media makes me love her even more

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:44 (six years ago)

Yeah, I mean I wouldn't expect her to participate. I don't know who it is who puts out these old photos in rotation. It could be barely caring assistants. It could be her, not giving a fuck. I just mean I don't think an image of an old cassette indicates anything.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 22 May 2020 00:23 (six years ago)

Reissues are afoot. A friend is working on them.

Duke, Friday, 22 May 2020 10:31 (six years ago)

Excellent, thanks! I hoped as much.

piscesx, Friday, 22 May 2020 12:17 (six years ago)

Great!

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 22 May 2020 13:31 (six years ago)

Fantastic news! <3

And re: her social media, I think 95% of the time it's someone from her management handling it, but she has posted an occasional tour selfie (or a poetry collection endorsement recently) and she apparenly enjoys compiling playlists (she seems to be into Colin Stetson, Tirzah, and Big Thieg atm). But it's so rare that I'm always a bit surprised when once in a blue moon there's some activity.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Friday, 22 May 2020 18:42 (six years ago)

I had that double lp version of "Dry" with the demos. I did record it to minidisc ...

I didn't realise that the corresponding cd edition wasn't two CDs as well, but one long one.

Is that getting the remaster reissue treatment?

Mark G, Friday, 22 May 2020 22:05 (six years ago)

If so, would it be a rare instance of ... remastered demos?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 May 2020 22:29 (six years ago)

Well, I meant the package...

Still, it wouldn't be the first time

Mark G, Friday, 22 May 2020 22:32 (six years ago)

‘Dry’ vinyl reissue and ‘Dry - Demos’ vinyl/CD/download – released 24th July 2020. Full back catalogue of vinyl reissues and stand-alone demo albums to follow.

Pre-order:
Dry - Demos: https://t.co/kZTJDz5KtK
Dry vinyl: https://t.co/1kFbfgoCAo pic.twitter.com/UxarCGnqcT

— PJ Harvey (@PJHarveyUK) May 28, 2020

Duke, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:16 (six years ago)

Here they are

Duke, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:17 (six years ago)

thank god these are finally going to be rolling out. Dry has always needed a remaster, to my ears.

akm, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:21 (six years ago)

Dry has always sounded great to me, imo.

Does that include any of that unreleased stuff seen on the cassette labels?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:38 (six years ago)

Yeah I've always liked the sound of Dry

Duke, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:24 (six years ago)

it's just so quiet. I'm not asking for all the dynamics to be gone, but a little more heft and a volume boost would be appreciated

akm, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:30 (six years ago)

I found my minidisc copy of Dry&demos yesterday.

Mark G, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:48 (six years ago)

DRY DEMOS!!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:52 (six years ago)

Oh man want to hear

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:52 (six years ago)

I bought the original Dry vinyl + demos back in 1991. The demos are great - to me, much more satisfying than the Rid of Me demos. That Dry+demo release is probably one of the records I have that is worth most cash – I guess this is likely to change now. I'm more excited about the reissues to come later though. If they're all going to come out one by one, she's missing a trick – I would happily splash out £200 on a complete box set, but if there isn't going to be one, I'll just pick up what I don't already have on vinyl (Is This Desire? + Stories).

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:41 (six years ago)

I have never heard the Dry demos, only the ones released as 4-track Demos, which was my introduction to learning how songs are made. I was 18 or 19 at the time and didn't know much about how music actually got written/recorded.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:43 (six years ago)

yeah would like an expanded 4-track Demos please (also a live Hope Six and/or all new)(haven't heard the soundtracks, are they good?)

dow, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:54 (six years ago)

Was "Easy" ever released on another album other than 4 track demos?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:57 (six years ago)

it is easily (lol) one of my favorites of her early songs

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:58 (six years ago)

akm OTM IMHO. Even by the standards of its time, the original release of Dry was mastered at a curiously low volume.

The multiplying villainies of nature / Do swarm upon him (Vast Halo), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:58 (six years ago)

I bought the original Dry vinyl + demos back in 1991. The demos are great - to me, much more satisfying than the Rid of Me demos. That Dry+demo release is probably one of the records I have that is worth most cash [...]

― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:41 (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah same here. 1992, I think actually. I checked Discogs a while back and it was selling for an average of £200

Duke, Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:17 (six years ago)

The idea of releasing demos for To Bring You My Love, Is This Desire, White Chalk, or Let England Shake makes me ridiculously excited for this reissue series.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:18 (six years ago)

I was weighing getting out of vinyl completely but a full set of PJH is making me rethink it.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:21 (six years ago)

I guess this is too early to tell, but I wonder if there will also be a mop up of the stray released tracks on these reissues?

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:22 (six years ago)

Interesting to hear different perspectives, because I actually think "To Bring You My Love" is the one that sounds mastered at a curiously low volume (esp. coming from peak Flood), and that the fucking-with-you dynamics of "Rid of Me" does it no favors, and would love to hear both of *those* remixed/remastered. But "Dry" ... I played it for someone I know who had never heard it before, or really anything by her, and he said it reminded him of the way early Zeppelin is recorded, which is to say, awesome. The drums on "Dry" alone are some of my favorite recorded drums ever (another aspect of the trio hurt by the famed Albini Wall of Thud).

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:30 (six years ago)

The remastering of Dry was done by Head who recorded/produced the original, so I hope he won't fuck with the sound too much.

The reissues have been in the works for quite a while, I remember John Parish posting pics of some test pressings approved by him on FB in 2013/2014.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:52 (six years ago)

I want a dumb nickname like Flood or Head

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:53 (six years ago)

Dry sounds great, Rid of Me sounds bad. The sound of Rid of Me always reminds me of the similarly weedy & hard to enjoy sound John Zorn produced for Boredoms around the same time on Wow 2.

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:57 (six years ago)

xpost don't forget Youth

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:57 (six years ago)

Spot

dow, Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:07 (six years ago)

Apparently Flood gained his nickname when he was a young tape op, because he regularly spilled cups of tea on the mixing desk.

The multiplying villainies of nature / Do swarm upon him (Vast Halo), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:49 (six years ago)

Spot! Forgot Spot. Youth is new to me. Flood could be a surname too. Sorry for the derail.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:14 (six years ago)

1992, I think actually.

Oh yeah, no doubt you're right. This is kinda boring, but I thought 1991 cos I know I got it when I still lived in my mum's house, but I didn't move out till April 1992 so it could have been early that spring. That makes sense. It was sunny when I got the bus to Edinburgh on a Saturday morning, and sunny back with that record. I hadn't heard a note from her before then - just bought it based on the review, as I always did then.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:22 (six years ago)

Ha. It was March 1992, so just before your move. I also bought it on release day just on the strength of reviews.

Duke, Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:38 (six years ago)

Rid of Me sounds bad

This is beyond wrong - I have a fairly decent audio system and cranking Rid of Me is the closest I have ever heard to a band in the room right there in front of me. Absolutely impeccable, brilliant recording. It's not compressed to bring the sound "forward" which is its cardinal virtue (aside from the incredible performances and peak songwriting from PJH).

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:54 (six years ago)

otmfm

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:57 (six years ago)

Well, that's the pro and con of many Albini productions: crank it and it *does* sounds like the band is in the room right in front of you. But sometimes you don't want the band right in front of you. I'm not sure that's what the studio is necessarily for. That's what live performances (and live recordings) are for! Albini prides himself on taking himself out of the mix (so to speak). He's just there to capture the moment in the most pure way possible and so, just a guy recording the band, doing their bidding, and so on. But the ironic result on "Rid of Me" is that he is more present and apparent than ever, which is why literally no one fails to mention the sound of the record (again, pro and con). Don't get me wrong, I love "Rid of Me," I just still think it was the wrong approach for a trio of such cool, unique musicians, and it's why despite liking all of the songs it's the only thing keeping me from listening to it as much as I otherwise would.

(I should also stress that I think the Albini approach does often work, and to the band's benefit, whether the Jesus Lizard or Low or Bedhead or Page/Plant.)

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:06 (six years ago)

I dunno. I think that approach on Rid of Me makes it more intense than it would have been had it been recorded differently, and that intensity is kind of the point.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:27 (six years ago)

Can't really disagree, but I don't think we would have missed out on any intensity with a different approach. Intensity is kind of her thing!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:44 (six years ago)

He's just there to capture the moment in the most pure way possible and so, just a guy recording the band, doing their bidding, and so on. But the ironic result on "Rid of Me" is that he is more present and apparent than ever


Apart from his distinctive drum miking, I would argue that he’s no more or less present on this record than on any of his others. The band employed extreme dynamic shifts, and that’s what Albini recorded. Since so few bands of that type at that time were exploiting dynamics in that way, it sounded jarring; I seem to remember the contemporary Village Voice review talking about how some were rushing to credit Albini with what PJ’s band was doing.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:55 (six years ago)

Oh, I have no doubt it was her idea! I just find it distracting is all, since so few bands exploit dynamics in that way, period. But I'm also not a big fan of the guitar sounds on "Rid of Me," iirc. I should give it a fresh listen (if my family ever leaves the house, because they will tell me to turn it the fuck off, because see above).

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:58 (six years ago)

I guess the 4-track Demos album presents those songs in a much less overwhelming arrangements? I don't understand how Rid of Me is anything but a powerful band reaching for the most visceral, slamming sound possible, and absolutely nailing it. I'm glad it exists and I'm glad it sounds nothing like 99% of my record collection.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 28 May 2020 23:41 (six years ago)

I mean - the dynamics and drama are the *point* of those songs.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 28 May 2020 23:43 (six years ago)

Trying to imagine Rid of Me with a more 1993 Alt-Rock identikit production, and it's not pretty in all the wrong ways.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 May 2020 23:47 (six years ago)

rid of me, produced by butch vig

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 May 2020 23:56 (six years ago)

or Ross Robinson

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 29 May 2020 00:01 (six years ago)

Gross

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 May 2020 00:03 (six years ago)

Every record produced by Butch Vig would have been better without him, except perhaps for Garbage's first two albums.

pomenitul, Friday, 29 May 2020 00:07 (six years ago)

Rid Of Me...produced by Mitchell Froom

Bells and whistles

Master of Treacle, Friday, 29 May 2020 00:51 (six years ago)

I try to imagine Rid of Me produced by Flood all the time

Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Friday, 29 May 2020 01:20 (six years ago)

Really hoping she finally releases a compilation of her incredible b-sides. "Memphis" could've been a hit.

beamish13, Friday, 29 May 2020 18:23 (six years ago)

^ I have been thinking about the B-sides as well. The press release mentions only demos being released as companion albums, and while with Dry and Rid of Me it's quite simple (Demonstration and 4-Track Demos have already been out since the early 90s, and there are like 3 B-sides from that period that wouldn't warrant a separate release anyway), things get a bit more complicated with later albums. For instance, the guitar and vocal tracks on "I Think I'm a Mother" are apparently taken from PJ's demo recording, similarly a bunch of tracks from Is This Desire? was just demos that were transferred into the studio and then the band worked on top of them. And of course she recorded most of Uh Huh Her (apart from the drums) by herself on an 8-track at home. There are probably more cases of her home recordings making their way onto the final albums.

So it seems in some cases the 'demos' may not be that different from the finished product, which makes me wonder if they'll include some B-sides on the future releases instead.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Friday, 29 May 2020 19:47 (six years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://i.imgur.com/hY9kk6S.png

Rid of Me / 4-Track Demos reissues coming on August 21st.

ROM vinyl cutting by Bob Weston at Chicago Mastering under the guidance of Steve Albini, 4TD cutting by Jason Mitchell at Loud Mastering under the guidance of John Parish.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Thursday, 25 June 2020 21:23 (five years ago)

White Chalk era From The Basement session up on YouTube. I think it’s my favourite album of hers. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnEQRzSLg1KI_7ECYQBI71h04XN3t3S40

This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Thursday, 25 June 2020 21:50 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

To Bring You My Love and its demos coming September 11th.

https://i.imgur.com/jK1NpND.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXsKBb3Csgg

The demo of Down By The Water sounds so close to the album version! The QY20 drum machine and percussion are the only noticeable differences. I had no idea Polly had used the vocals from her home recording in the final cut. It's impressive that she basically already had the whole track down when she was demoing it in her bedroom -- albeit it makes the newly surfaced demo less interesting than one might have expected, as opposed to the Rid Of Me demos which shed new light on the songs.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Friday, 17 July 2020 21:04 (five years ago)

I'm a little surprised that the second disk is just demos since the B-sides from this era are very very good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stIDxBPJohQ

Still very excited for the demos.

Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Saturday, 18 July 2020 03:09 (five years ago)

If that "Down by the River" demo is any indication, I wonder if this was a situation where they roped in a ringer to produce (Flood, at the peak of his powers), tried to capture the qualities of the demos, but decided, eh, let's just use as much of those takes as we can.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 July 2020 13:24 (five years ago)

The Dry Demos are out. I like them but most of them - except maybe Dress - miss the power of the final album. There is no sudden outburst of guitar noise like on Hair. There is not a lot of rhythm. Some of them are even fragile. An excellent production job which gave the album this raw brutal sound. On the other side it is very rewarding to listen to the demos where her voice is the main instrument.

https://media1.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0602508782473.jpg

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 24 July 2020 15:38 (five years ago)

Dress in the whole-band arrangement is prog-levels of overlapping rhythmic oddity, but still so blunt. Was surprised to hear bowed strings in the demo.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Friday, 24 July 2020 16:14 (five years ago)

one month passes...

The To Bring You My Love demos are out and they're a much more fleshed-out effort than the Dry or Rid of Me demos indeed - filled with keyboards and drum machines, with pretty much whole arrangements worked out at the home recording stage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YG33LTqUCs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc8ircFYfr4

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Saturday, 12 September 2020 20:30 (five years ago)

Oh boy, the artwork for those demos. The back photo is pretty nice too. I was in high school when I got 4-track demos and I crushed on her so hard based on the music and that album cover. She still sends me into a cloud of pubescent longing.

I think I got this and Guyville within a month of each other and together they blew my mind. I had never been exposed to complex female perspectives before in music. It took me a while to realize that Highway 61 was a cover!

The Dry vinyl reissue isn't too great. Lots of background noise in some songs. Supposedly the Euro pressing is better.

Cow_Art, Saturday, 12 September 2020 23:24 (five years ago)

Sorry to hear that about the reissue.

I had thought about getting CD versions of the first two albums, which I own on vinyl. I haven't seen them yet anywhere.

Duke, Sunday, 13 September 2020 19:59 (five years ago)

The Dry vinyl reissue isn't too great.

Yeah, the US one is kind of crap. The Rid of Me one is much better. Not sure if I'm gonna get any of the rest of what's to come.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 13 September 2020 22:55 (five years ago)

I bought the To Bring You My Love reissue yesterday, but haven't had the chance to listen to it yet.

peace, man, Sunday, 13 September 2020 23:02 (five years ago)

Just FYI I have the European pressing of the Dry reissue and it sounds great, no problems whatsoever.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Monday, 14 September 2020 16:35 (five years ago)

listening on streaming to the Bring You My Love demos (bummer about the vinyl was just about to order it glad I clicked here first)

but wow, I love this, she's the master of demos

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:24 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

Finally got the chance to listen to the TBYML vinyl and it's excellent.

📺👁️ (peace, man), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 00:41 (five years ago)

two months pass...

Stories.. demos etc

https://pjharvey.kontraband.store/products/stories-from-the-city-stories-from-the-sea-demos-lp

piscesx, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 19:20 (five years ago)

I'm happy to get the chance to have all the albums on vinyl (just need this and Uh Huh Her now), but I'm not forking out for any more of the demo albums. The To Bring You My Love demos have minor differences in arrangements, but in terms of song structure, composition, phrasing etc they are identical bar by bar to the final release. I can't imagine this will change with later releases. Is she going to put out Uh Huh Her and White Chalk demo albums? They already sound like demos! (Don't get me wrong, I like them, but still...)

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 7 January 2021 23:11 (five years ago)

It’d be nice if there were CD versions of these reissues.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 8 January 2021 11:32 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

There's a CD edition of the just-released Is This Desire? Demos set--I just ordered a copy from my local shop; am really into the drum machine backings on pretty much this whole thing, and am glad that it's (at the time of this post) all up on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQxxfsns0ho

Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 20:18 (five years ago)

Think he might have meant CD reissues of the actual albums.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 20:21 (five years ago)

one year passes...

Her B-Sides, Rarities & Demos is fantastic in a way that (to me) the LPs haven’t been in a minute. Loving this.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 January 2023 17:29 (three years ago)

Yeah, it's a great compilation. There are a few bizarre choices and weird omissions―but that's to be expected with such big retrospectives―and the third CD (or LPs 5 & 6) is a bit of a mixed bag as it features everything from her early/pre-90s songs, soundtrack work, unreleased demos, to a Nick Cave cover and some one-off singles, but the first two parts are an amazing, surprisingly cohesive listen.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Saturday, 7 January 2023 18:35 (three years ago)


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