Jackin' House partisans, convince a skeptic

Tim F, now is your time to shine.

Where does the line come between funky, jackin and afrobeats? I still don't really understand the differences clearly.

I'm not ignoring this thread btw.

I don't think afrobeats really has a line (because afrobeats is an umbrella term rather than a genre or scene per se), there could be funky afrobeats and for that matter jackin afrobeats if the artists in question fancy it.

Where does the line come between funky, jackin and afrobeats? I still don't really understand the differences clearly.

Well I'm not an expert either but I think it mostly comes down to the different kind of beats. Funky = beats with clave/3:2 type snare patterns at about 130bpm. Jackin = much straighter-sounding beats with the snares on the 2 and the 4 in each bar. I think Jackin tunes tend to be slightly slower too, closer to 120bpm but could well be wrong on this.
Afrobeats is a bit more diverse and harder to pin down. Some of the beat patterns are def similar to Funky, but the genre covers a lot of different types of beats at different tempos. The main thing that marks it out is obv the influence from African music, and a lot tunes have vocals or MCing done in West African accents + patois. That's the other thing that separates it from Funky and Jackin, it's more heavily vocal/song orientated.

why does it have such a terrible name

Terrible names are just a tradition in uk dance music at this stage tbh.

Great name duh.

is this a thing? how is it different to...house music

these were basically the only tracks on the summer jams thread that weren't amazing, right?

wrong.

hey i put dj ma1 in mix and you still don't listen whys that

i'm sorry i misunderstood this to be about acid house, not a subgenre of funky

It's not really different to house music (at this stage) - comparable to late 06 / 07 funky in that regard, with different sonic reference points.

Which means it has roughly the same capacity for greatness as you might expect of music "not really different to house music" - quite a lot as it turns out! But I'm not obsessed with it the way I was with funky this time four years ago.

I can't post youtubes at the moment but suffice to say Hannam and Garnett's "you want me" is total top five of the year.

i am ignoring this thread btw

what a terrible start to the thread.

Good luck with this Tim, this stuff comes in for a hella amount of stick. I'm sick of trying to defend it to people already.

Haha. Use of "partisans"?

(Xpost)

"you want me" just made me want to listen to the sadie ama original

afaik 'jackin' house' takes some of the elements of bassline but combines with a more traditional house (or maybe electro-house) palette. it's fun and it reminds me of when producers from the grime/garage/dubstep scenes started fuckin' with house properly and there was a year or so where it felt like that music could really go anywhere.

in my personal exp. the ppl i know who are heavily into uk-centric dance music scenes don't really seem to fuck with house that much (apart from a few uk ppl who are deemed releveant). i attribute this (and i could be totes wrong) to house being so daunting and ~unknowable~ where as grime or garage or whatever is more easily geeked over and fetishised. so for me, when these uk producers open up their sound in this way it is really exciting and opens up so many possibilities.

big fan of that nick hannam ft. tom zanetti track & the nick hannam track that samples robin thicke. there really is very little separating 'you want me' sonically from the house music that is massively popular in london/rest of europe rite now apart from the AWESOME, AWESOME rap. always find it interesting to see on facebook how the tom zanetti raves seem to have hot creations house ppl and big garage names on the same bill.

also notwithstanding that several of my favourite dance tracks of the year are based on r&b samples, i am sick to death of listening to new dance songs and hearinga familiar cut-up voice hove into view today

i hear one which sampled "promise" yesterday - i forget where or what, it doesn't matter - and literally turned to yell at the computer. LEAVE CIARA ALONE

^ I'll give You Want Me a listen in a bit (got the radio on just now).
I think the main thing that's holding me back with this genre is something like... there's been a few tunes I've heard that I've liked a lot (mostly ones posted on that 'Certified Jacking' youtube channel), but they've seemed like 'exceptions to the rule' kind of tunes, and I don't like being in that kind of relation with a genre. Part of why I fell so hard for funky is that at its peak (for me) I could love the whole breadth of vibes right across the scene. But there's been tonnes of Jackin' tunes that people have showed me and I've just felt like 'nah that's naff' and a lot of them as far as I know are fairly representative of where the sound is at right now.
I'm aware this all sounds like hand-wringing.
(xpost to Tim)

I think Hannam is signed to Hot Creations now?

also "you want me" just fades out randomly? i assume that's not how it's meant to be but don't give me that incomplete shit to listen to thanks very much

The Dissensus Jackin' thread for anyone interested:
http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?11791-Jackin-Electroline

you can buy the full version of you want me off bigtunesmp3.com

its my favourite tune

also "you want me" just fades out randomly? i assume that's not how it's meant to be but don't give me that incomplete shit to listen to thanks very much

― lex pretend, Thursday, 26 July 2012 10:36 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Alright everybody, clear out. This thread Jackin' House has been cancelled.

hey i put dj ma1 in mix and you still don't listen whys that

― the late great, Thursday, 26 July 2012 10:24 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I didn't see this?

but also in truth I'm not much of a MA1 fan...

it was the dva remix which i thought just sounded surprisingly like a good ny tribal / deep house track, ditto most stuff i like on roska kicks snares

dissensus thread is awesome

like we have all these big name producers with no sense of a sound, no scenius, all their releases such a big deal, and none of that hardcore vibe of producers just putting out fuck loads of tunes that just do the business on the dance floor

imagining it this voice

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3g9ye06uh1r05j4oo2_500.gif

eet hazza no scene-e-us!

it was the dva remix which i thought just sounded surprisingly like a good ny tribal / deep house track, ditto most stuff i like on roska kicks snares

vahid in that case there are about 20 billion sunday roast productions waiting for you.

oh nice

are they any good or are they like 20 billion jamie jones associates

in case there's any confusion i mean "i'm leaving" which basically sounds like a slightly more afrocaribbean ("africanism?") version of the nuyorican soul thing

i always pitch it way up too, if anything it's too laid-back and straight

are they any good or are they like 20 billion jamie jones associates

some are good but it gets pretty wearying.

I've only started listening to some of this, there seems to be a love of sampling really super recognizable vocals & wacky clips from movies.

so this is basically moombahton at a faster tempo?

i would send you a link tim but of course like jamie jones associates and sunday roast productions there are 20 billion online mixes to listen to and some are good but it gets pretty wearying

having said that it's in the first mix / newest mix here but i don't think you'll care much for it because it's not about scenius it's about my imaginary world where everything is one big detroit continuum

also it has nothing to do w/ the proper "jackin house" on this thread

I will check it!

thanks i'm curious about how it comes off ... it's kind of a classicist frankendance i guess, "good taste" at a remove of anywhere from 1k to 5k miles from the source

Meanwhile here's some jackin' house:

Nick Hannam & Tom Garnett ft. Tom Zanetti - You Want Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSIzlwMSo9g

Tom Zanetti Ko Kane & Lorenzo - Summertime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnaXJsv4pAM&feature=relmfu

Jamie Duggan ft. The Alliance & Viollet - Swagger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qov-4p58duc&feature=relmfu

Ill Phil & MC Sim - Away We Go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOuUKzESa2s&feature=relmfu

De Contrabande - Bucky Done Gun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uhj14dQXCM&feature=relmfu

Francois ft. Louis Benton- I Can Say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdj8LAxTUn0

Carl Flanagan ft. Farrah - Superman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIanV-ChMgc&feature=relmfu

awesome

i just love "away we go" so much. hypnotising

THERE'S MORE TO ME THAN THE EYES CAN SEE
I AM THE LOCK, THE HANDLE AND KEY
FOR THE DOOR THAT'S HINGED ON ETERNITY

After having the owl/ufo bass from 'You Want Me' running in my head for two days straight, I have to say Jackin is growing on me. I think the electro part turned me off initially, but the skippy beats, warpy owl bass, cheeky/cheesy samples, and blatant drugginess on some of these tracks is winning me over.

I think I like about half of those youtubes. Was vibing quite a bit to Away We Go earlier. A lot of the tunes I like sound a bit like slightly slower, slightly straighter equivalents to the garagey bits DJ Q plays. A lot of this stuff has an enjoyable effortless sort of feel to it. Might try and post more coherent thoughts later, but yeah I'm coming round to it a bit.

Also off-topic but TLG I enjoyed your mix (and other ones that you've posted in the Mixes For Download thread).

thanks andy!

Seriously who the hell came up with the name? There's only one kind of jackin house. It's from Chicago and it existed two decades ago. And by jackin they really meant JACKIN. I don't hear any jack here.

r|t|c where are yooooooouuuuu?

http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-colbert.gif

oh wait hold up though

i do have something... just for sir

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr-UBN2bc-U

i know how you feel rob about the word "jackin", i feel the same way when i see the word "yansh"

the owl/ufo bass

is it jackin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGKZ2ZmIFNE

that's really funny because i was going to make the point that some of this stuff is starting to sound more like plump djs than moombahton

not that moombahton doesn't already sound like plump djs or freestylers or whatever

jamie duggan CHOOOOOOOON

ok i get it, this just sounds like a mersh version of stuff i already really like (old classic records, well rounded, julio bashmore, etc) w/ added bassline emphasis

my initial reaction is that this IS kind of like the same sort of blend i'm going for right now, but when the bassline is not interesting or the vocalist is not charismatic it is neither more nor less boring than when the same thing happens in yr average carl craig track

also that it's waaaaaay too slow

like in the carl flanagan track, it reminds me of this documentary or something i saw about "style" as applied to battle dancing (i don't know if it was about locking and popping or voguing or soul dance or what) and somebody was like "sometimes you watch someone dance and you wonder if they imagine what it's like for other people to look at them or if they don't give a shit about style"

that's how the "epic build" and "off-key-ness" of carl flanagan makes me feel, an undeserved victory lap around the fruity loops manual

if its LFO owls you want, that'd be Nick hannam's 'Homeless' or Cause & Affect's 'Don't like to do that' - not 'You want me' as astrochimp said

As with funky it's often played pitched up - though on some records (e.g. "You Want Me") the original speed works better in my opinion.

or like why would anyone prefer a francois track to an actual utah saints track is beyond me

yeah i guess tbf i play half my things at +8

i'm not kidding that francois track about the morning light sounds to me like a nu skool breaks remix of a utah saints track

ill phil gets the gun finger

^^ give us an emoticon for this r|t|c

mc sims gets five mics and first game on the xbox for the rest of the night

The main reason I posted the Flanagan is I'm pretty sure the singer is Farah of "Kiss Me There" fame.

is the logo supposed to represent some sort of street food? like a big sausage in a taco-shell shaped piece of kebab bread?

i mean the certified jackin one not the jack daniels one

is it jackin?

http://i.imgur.com/i9iPm.gif

ghahahhah winner

The main reason I posted the Flanagan is I'm pretty sure the singer is Farah of "Kiss Me There" fame.
Yeah I think that's her. I like her vocal I'm but not so mad about the rest of the tune.

I love those the owl bass on those two, Benny, those are much better examples. The part of 'You Want Me' I've had stuck in my head is that eerie UFO/ghost sound that comes in at the beginning of the track, before the bassline, that then becomes more high-pitched and bird-like around 2:23 in that youtube clip.

owl bass? isn't this just like 1990 bass?

oh god, please forget about this owl thing will you? It comes from an offhand comment i made on dissensus about 'Homeless' that Simon Reynolds then mentioned in his blog. Lets leave it at that...

Haha it's a catchy term mate, don't be embarrassed.

i think i see what's happening here now

this entire thread has been some sort of ilx tax write-off hasnt it

you crafty sods better paypal me my cut

t/s owl bass vs sea punk

is it owl bass

owl'n'bass

finney did you listen

Intense mix v.

really? thank you. i'm most of the proud of the "champion sound" bit at the beginning of the first blake baxter thing.

so am i deliberately misinterpreting aspects of the sound ... or rather am i ignoring (specifics of geography aside) that separates, say, standard bobbins and what rob might call predigested fact-ulum from the more vibrant funky and jackin scenes ... or would you just say i'm shoehorning everything into a frankendance sort of mush?

i'm really too old to follow developments in all continents and scenes but i wish i had kept up more w grime and funky now

i often get the same sense listening to some of this music as i do listening to herbert's "let's all make mistakes" and whatnot

Well I don't think your mix has anything to do with "jackin house" within the meaning of this thread, unsurprisingly!

The thing with funky is - or was - less for me about socio-geographical borders than a certain kind of overriding logic of groove that might not be apparent on a track by track basis. Pulling, say, Champion or (at the absolute opposite end of the funky spectrum) DJ MA1's remix of "I'm Leaving" into orbit with techno and tech-house and dubstep and etc. makes even those tracks feel very different.

This is probably at least in part a result of the fact that funky could perhaps have been described as a certain perspective on house rather than a full-fledged individual genre. I guess that precariousness is maybe why I have always tried to insist on distinctions from a critical perspective; funky didn't have the obvious distinctiveness of uk garage, whereby if you dropped a 2-step tune into a different genre mix it usually still sounded like... a 2-step tune.

(so 'predigested fact-ulum' is in some cases a certain light or framing that may be there or may not be - although then of course some tracks/artists adopt that vibe irrevocably).

Importantly though, cutting across genre lines doesn't always = frankendance, it depends on the strength of the through-line constructed (Let's All Make Mistakes is a paramount example of this).

An article I wrote recently for Audimat was basically me trying to set out a theoretical apparatus for the above but it's in French :-/

right, so they just sound like particularly choppy or spacey broken beat or house tracks? i think a lot of sounds the way early "space disco" stuff like 90s idjuts, paper recordings, etc just sounds like tech house in that context (blending in w/ stuff like DiY)

personally i also think that's an argument for their strength

i like the idea of fact music as a framing thing ... are FACT and BASS the same or different as superwords i wonder ;-)

i should not post so fast

it reminds me of how early "space disco" tracks (90s idjuts, paper recordings, etc) just sounded like tech house at that time (blending in w/ stuff like DiY)

makes even those tracks feel very different

what's interesting to me is that as a sheltered listener that's pretty much how those tracks "feel" to me, it doesn't sound like an incongruous transition or trick to me anymore than playing blake baxter with derrick may or eon with moodymann

yeah that's kinda my point!

But have you heard many of the 'classic' funky sets?

no it's hard to know where to start w/ 1000 new posts and no handy clearance bin

I will attend to this.

Attention Vahid:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/293y3a

2008.11.26 - RinseFM - Marcus Nasty ft. Rankin, Riskgo, Coldsteps, JME, Frisco, Sharky P, Versatile

thanks tim :-)

i like jme a lot

have
you
even
heard
the 2x marcus nasty jackin mixes linked on the summer jams thread?

Yeah as per usual the best way by a mile to get into this stuff is through mixes.

no only the commercial rinse one which went over my head (ps you all said it was not so good?)

Do you mean his 2010 Rinse CD? That's uk funky not jackin' house.

I thought it was very good but the absence of MCs means it's not as amazing as his best radio sets from 2008 - 2011 era.

Marcus now plays some jackin' house sets which is what r|t|c is referring to.

Has Jack Daniels seen those graphics yet?

http://mashable.com/2012/07/22/jack-daniels-trademark-letter/

o i c

Are there any good Jackin mixes out there other than those two Marcus Nasty ones?

Just posted this to the favorite mixes thread: Superbad Bass Lounge #002 | A-level Results Mix | Mixed By: Nick Hannam

http://soundcloud.com/nick-hannam/hannam-superbad-mix

Tune!

Dene Antony - A Feeling (Joe Barnes Bootleg)

Okay how do I download this mix.

right click?

Excellent!

Is there an obvious way to create that link from the soundcloud page that I'm missing?

view source, a do a find for

streamUrl":"http://media.soundcloud.com/stream/

then copy and paste everything inside the double quotes starting with http://media.soundcloud.com/stream/

in this case that's http://media.soundcloud.com/stream/iMHd65pdtNPy?stream_token=ktNzd

― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Sunday, January 9, 2011 3:23 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Cheers, thanks.

Hannah Wants - Mixtape 1012

http://soundcloud.com/hannah_wants/hannah-wants-mixtape-1012

i don't even know if that's proper "jackin" or what but i like it

Would love to see a Jackin' Refix of Carly Rae Jepsen's "Kiss"

...also there was an amazing snippet of a Jamie Oliver track ("Doin' Time") floating around on a random club vid posted on Dissensus. Pretty sure it snatched its vocals from a Sublime song.

I'm starting to like this stuff almost as much as I did Funky back in the early days.

http://www.mixcloud.com/OneLoveATX/onelove-thepromisedland2-livekarmalounge-may21st2011/

appears to be on here

curses i thought this was interzone, don't wanna be seen on this foul thread

You want this thread really.

From a recent Hannah Wants mix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjczK8Og2CU

there's a sequel/remix to that now which is even better and weirder... in true jackin style they called it "dorothy's armpit"

Must hear it, that track is amazing, darkside vibes. Chris Lorenzo is some kind of genius.

ya it's on one of the recent 2:31 rinse sets but i forget which unfortunately

22nd of May is Lorenzo and Shorterz, I'll try that.

wait got it now, 58:45 on 29th may

http://www.kissfmuk.com/hannahwants/2013/06/tracklist-010613/
http://radioplayer.kissfmuk.com/la807581/hannah-wants/

you know hannah wants has a weekly show on kiss btw?

"Evil" "Dangerous"

lol

Thanks for chasing that down. Amazing. I think I need to hear the rest of this show.

Yeah, I did she that she has a show. I'm going to try and catch her in London this month.

yeah the 2:31 shows are v good... not wild omg stuff the way jackin nuum hype (or the marcus nasty 2012 sets) implies but a true representation of how the midlands crew puts its spin on today's house n bass sphere. strictly speaking i don't see jackin as really existing any more tbh, at least not the way it did last year

think you'll find as you listen your question on the ukpopbass thread answers itself better than anyone could possibly tell you (within ten thousand words anyway)

I need to dig deeper and follow those guys more closely, but the midlands house sound, whatever you want to call it, has a druggier, ravier vibe than anything else in UK dance I've heard for a while. This show from the 29th has more echoey, stutter vision, deep house effects circa late 90s early 00s than anything on the pop thread (but also with Bassline inflections)

It is also clear that Hannah Wants has shifted into a slightly more "sophisticated" sound than what she was playing when I checked her mixes out last year. Kind of hope she doesn't go further down that path though. Her mixtape 0513 is pretty much perfect imo.

I love tunes like "Dorothy's Forest" and "Kneadin" that are basically these compulsive broken machine loops, like they take the name "jackin" way way way more seriously than everything else does.

are there any other threads like this?

What do you mean

Vocal on "Kneadin" reminds me of Omni Trio.

Also great, very late 90s prog-house to my ears...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDPc-wFhmew

From the other thread, but this probably belongs here as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Qo_OI_4nJgk

At the risk of spamming the thread with YouTube links, after going through Cause & Effect Soundcloud and ID'ing some tracks, Operation 60 and Dreams are also great.

i very much like 'the tickle' too

this is the monster right now though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHU7zOcppdw

this one's great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fivm_GgBn2U

but then like, there's also this outside of lorenzoland if u see what i mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdeqvNBFyjk

these last couple of 2:31s have been absolutely firing

Haha, was listening to a 2:31 set and thinking "what the fuck is this amazing tune?", then realised it could only be "Dorothy's Armpit".

"The Tickle" is great too, yes.

if it happens to be the 5th june one then there's a tune of c&a's at 54 mins or so that is thee very zenith of yr "compulsive broken machine loops", more or less just a clanking 8 bar riddim

on the most recent 12th june they actually premier an official(!) remix of a new newham generals tune and they sound to the grimey manor born. so nice to hear d double on something decent again!

Yeah it's the 12th June set I'm listening to. Will listen to the 5th.

What's the baile funk sampling tune later in the 12th set? That also fits the bill perfectly.

Also the remix of "Jack" at 89 minutes.

Which I should stress is totally amazing.

i'm just getting round to the second hour of 12th june now, left it at the newgens track

the best periods of these last couple of shows have been when they just get their heads down and do banging driving in-the-pocket house sets (like what normals think of jackin i suppose) only with the current tools at hand. very exciting, makes me want to get a gym membership

also their occasional throwback record of the week slot is invariably excellent and cratediggy, i must go back thru and note them all down

Actually I think it's the track just before "Jack" I'm talking about.

Real time education going on here.

Haha yes I've already tested the first half of this set at the gym, it's a perfect soundtrack.

the funny thing about these sets is that for me they've rekindled my enthusiasm for jackin (well, belief in its agency rather) but also made me surer than ever that viewing jackin as some wild isolated sui generis tribe is totally the wrong way to gain any meaningful purchase on it

basically i think these might the first mixes that arent just a showcase of great tracks but articulate the true vibe fully

http://soundcloud.com/pete-graham/pete-graham-lorenzo-marina

oh the baile funk sampling tune!

omg i hear the the other one now. the wild west themed one with train crossing bell? idk what it is but YES it's brilliant

god i love how they either mix in or actually interpolate parts of 'marina gasolina' preceding to give it the full touch of evil mexican border town lawless twilight vibe

the funny thing about these sets is that for me they've rekindled my enthusiasm for jackin (well, belief in its agency rather) but also made me surer than ever that viewing jackin as some wild isolated sui generis tribe is totally the wrong way to gain any meaningful purchase on it

Yes, I've struggled with the question of whether enjoying jackin' in the context of, say, a DJ Q set, is getting a misreading on it the same way I would have considered to be the case for someone approaching funky via Oneman or whoever. Like, is there something inherently point-missing about the polystylistic pick'n'mix appraoch?

Obv. a key difference is the nature/character/context of the person doing the picking and mixing. But it also just feels like jackin' itself is less interested in constructing its own soundworld, is more open to and curious about the world around it, forms a cluster of intensity within a broader disseminated vibe-chain rather than establishing its own nation-state-of-vibe.

yeah like i mean take for instance 'jack' playing now, at first you think oh right it's 'jack' big tune on the scene etc etc. but listen closer and isn't the crucial kinda weirdly queasy animal groaning that makes the track (counterintuitively not erotic at all in juxtaposition with the vocal) such a move totally at home amongst jackin - absolutely not appropriated by in dialogue, but something already there that jackin waxes and wanes on as it suits it

and after that the same taiki & nulight mix of ray foxx that dj q played just to underline the point

Agreed re "Jack". BUT! What is that oh holy fuck amazing broken machine loop at about 111 minutes??

don't know but this is the wild west one you two were talking about upthread:

https://soundcloud.com/justin-martin-music/db087-01-justin-martin-and

there's also one simple reason i think that makes 2:31 shows more vibey and exciting than yr average jackin/house & bass mix: tunes being mixed in and out relatively quickly! i mean selection-wise 2:31 obviously has its own quirks of course (tons of C&A, Shorterz' euro-leanings) but mostly it's the same tunes you get in other jackin/h&b mixes, with the difference that those other mixes usually feel plodding coz the tunes drag out for cca 4 mins and here it's all fast-paced whizz-bang stuff - which is how it should be, 'proper' house tunes usually peak several mins in but this stuff lays out all its wares as soon as it can so it does not lend well to trad house mixing really

v true of course. kinda starting to wonder if there's actually any type of music that i wouldnt enjoy as long as it was mixed hard n fast

doh yes it is indeed 'wheelgunner'. rmde epic diligence fail since not only do i see i must have heard it in mixes loads of times but i already seem to have the dirtybird players comp on here

mt would you also happen know what the very linear bouncy number is they play with the breathy "couldnt do this without you" male croon?

BUT! What is that oh holy fuck amazing broken machine loop at about 111 minutes??

― Tim F, Thursday, 20 June 2013 10:30 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

tim surely you havent failed to recognise your own beloved 'kneadin'??

oh wait but the clanker i was on about upthread is there at 118 mins actually

No 111 minutes not 71 minutes!

And by the same token do you meant the clanker at 78 minutes? Because that's some serious clanking action.

Also Mind Taker is spot on with the analysis. Further to that point these machine loop tunes like "Wheelgunner (Dub)" arguably don't even work as standalones, the trick is in how Shorterz and Cause & Affect drop into them and then mix out as soon as possible into something else.

And can I just:

https://soundcloud.com/mynuleng/sets/contact-ep-forthcoming-black

aaargh feel like i should know what the 'couldnt do this without you' tune is but don't :\

weirded out a bit by news that "Kneadin'" and "Girls" are to be released on... Nurvous, of all places?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdH34MdPOEI

jus' enterin thread to say BRING BACK JOEY YOUNGMAN

if it requires the wolfgang gartner entity to be destroyed so be it

not to indulge ur illiteracy but i actually quite liked gartner's 'overdose' this year tbh

not indulgin taste, either huh =/

hell no

am slightly more predisposed to Youngman's style than to Gartner's and *still* can easily off the top of my head name several Gartner's tunes i've enjoyed while struggling with Youngman - WG's Britney remix is up there with the best of mersh electrohouse, JY's best can barely compete with, say, the grooveliciousness of Jason Hodges' "Sweat of Your Brow" rmx or delirious all-out wackiness of Soydan's "Running with the Beat"

(sorry for furthering the thread derail but i rarely get a chance to ramble on about this sort of stuff!)

Good crash course best of jackin here: Tom Garnett - 70 To 1 Mix.

https://soundcloud.com/tomgarnett11/tom-garnett-70-to-1-mix

i wonder if any of you jackin heads could tell me the song that starts about 89 minutes into the 5th June 2.31 set?

if you mean the one in between the dorothys with the 'good times' stabs then he says its the woz mix of kry wolf 'concrete'

http://soundcloud.com/ash-woz/kry-wolf-concrete-woz-remix

oh no sorry actually its 79.30 into the mix

also is there a set list somewhere?

baunz 'the same thing', huxley remix

awesome, cheers

omfg for his archive section pick in this week's 2:31 lorenzo only went and drew for... fabolous 'into you'!!!! TRULY HE IS A GOLDEN GOD.

HOLY SHIT @ SCHAFFEL-JACKIN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4kfKFjCLoQ

I know that's actually been around for a while but I just felt like sharing.

a classic

pink panther sample in there is ad lib music crit at its finest

but listen closer and isn't the crucial kinda weirdly queasy animal groaning that makes the track (counterintuitively not erotic at all in juxtaposition with the vocal) such a move totally at home amongst jackin

― r|t|c, Thursday, 20 June 2013 00:20 (3 weeks ago) Bookmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6JF2CUMvVY

AHHHHHH SO GOOD

wahey!!!! [creates super abstract stygian soundworld]

― r|t|c, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:28 (6 months ago) Bookmark

prescient post of prescient posts tbh

haha

not an abstract stygian soundworld but I've also been loving Lorenzo and Drapes' "This & That" of late.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZxO0lDaSbs

owing to the rinse shows i'm a fiend for this one lately. pitiless dominatrix whitney flip x booyaka ruffneck speed garage is so otm

my second all-lorenzo mix

http://www.mixcloud.com/bennybrassic/lorenzo-mix-volume-two/

http://www39.zippyshare.com/v/99436674/file.html

1. Darlin' - Tom Zanetti, Ko Kane, Lorenzo
2. I love you so - Pete Graham, Ill Phil & Lorenzo
3. Joe Grizzly - Cause and Affect
4. Dorothy's Forest - Pete Graham & Chris Lorenzo
5. Dappy - Hannah Wants & Lorenzo
6. Pull up in my whip - Cause & Affect
7. So Special - Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo
8. 1 Minute Man - Cause and Affect
9. Don't like to do that - Cause & Affect
10. Dirty Little Secret - Ill Phil, Ryan James & Lorenzo ft. Vie
11. I refuse - Hannah Wants & Lorenzo
12. Hesitate - Hannah Wants
13. It's true - Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo
14. Poppin; - Cause & Affect
15. When the Doves Cry - Bdot & Lorenzo
16. Where's the party at? - Daft Jack & Lorenzo
17. Open Page (Hannah Wants & Lorenzo mix) - Lenzman ft. Riya
18. Oppose Authority - Cause & Affect
19. Lil Method - Donkie Punch & Lorenzo
20. Snatch my crops - Cause & Affect
21. Bang Bang Bang - Coldcuts & Lorenzo
22. Whoomp there it is - Louie Benton & Lorenzo
23. Soundbwoy Killa - Cause & Affect
24. Erotic Prince - Paranoid Resistance
25. I want you - Lorenzo & Stikkylips
26. Hungry for the powder - Ill Phil, The House Monkeyz & Lorenzo

<3 <3 !!!!!!

great, but only 32kbps?

?

its in 320kbps for sure

'dirty little secret', choice selection

And by the same token do you meant the clanker at 78 minutes? Because that's some serious clanking action.

― Tim F, Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:13 (2 months ago) Bookmark

lol the new hannah wants setlist reveals that this track is titled 'testosterone deficiency' :D

http://www2.zippyshare.com/v/90837698/file.html

radio rip crafted purely for my own nostalgic disport

Benny B's Lorenzo II mix is the shit. Easily one of the best mixes I've heard all year.

Granted it's a mix of tracks from only one producer, but still, thanks for this! Awesome!

oh niice, thanks for bumping

YES. Excellent mix.

Starting with "Darlin" is kinda inspired too.

shamefully - and god knows why - this is the only Benny's recent ukg-related mix i haven't checked out yet

when i saw the tracklist i was puzzled/intrigued by the omission of several HUGE tunes that have become available between the two Lorenzo volumes ("Money Cant Bye It"! "Shake It"! "Stronger Than Me"! "Moving Closer"! "Trouble"!) - guess i'm so used to a somewhat sturdy consensus on key jackin tunes that i tend to forget that not everyone has to have the same taste as me? or maybe the mixmaster just wants to keep a few aces up his sleeve for the third volume, who knows ;)

"Kneadin" is the biggest tune not included IMO. Also some days my tune of 2013.

not out yet, forthcoming on Dirtybird (and yes, it's fantastic!)

Yeah that wasn't a knock at Benny B! TBH I'm astonished at his painstaking collation of the tunes included on these mixes.

oh wow, cheers guys you made my day :)

mind taker: would have definitely put 'shake it' on there, didn't know it was available. Must confess I don't think I know the other tracks you mention! Could easily do another volume right now but there'd be too many old tracks on there so I'm gonna wait a while. 'Kneadin' is obviously fantastic.

my fave recent one is the C&A remix of Stanton Warriors' 'Cut me up' which is absolutely monstrous. It was a free download I think and I included it on this new ukg mix I did

https://soundcloud.com/benny-brassic/benny-brassic

ffs don't tell my you don't know "Money Cant Bye It"! best thing ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h6bNfnny0M

and "Trouble" is a free dl

https://soundcloud.com/tomgarnett11/tom-garnett-lorenzo-trouble-1

god cant believe money cant buy it passed me by, definitely hunting that mutha down.

i sse now i've got(and adore) 'trouble', was an oversight i guess. there really is just too many great tunes to keep track of

well there's certainly much less great '& Lorenzo' tunes now that Cause & Affect have crossed over to the semi-big leagues but the C&A 2013 output makes up for it big time imo

btw i *super* enjoy dipping into the 2:31 rinse shows every now and then... on the face of it C&A would appear to be the weaker link, what with them tending to play the same tunes over and over again, but it's really at its best when both them and Shorterz are at it - Shorterz always has a superb warmzy selection but struggles ramping the energy levels up, C&A bits bang but they can't do groovy warm-up to save their lives, put them together and it's magic

Haha that take on 2:31 is both something I actually agree with and structurally designed for me to agree with (like I would assume it was correct even if I'd never heard a 2:31 set).

agree about the 2:31 shows i've heard too, haven't checked for a few weeks though

the craic is from datwun at dissensus is lorenzo engineers all of shorterz' tunes as well, for some reason he doesn't get credited as collaborator.

perfectly human to lose track of the constant stream of aceness lorenzo's involved in tbf - plus ime it's quite common with a lot of jackin for the functional genius not to scream itself out on first skim (take for instance, idk, 'rude boy' or '21' or something - you see what it is immediately but feel it only in situ)

anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh0eLQcRtjY

and of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QOCvlio9KE

also search out cause & affect ft jamie george 'another time', and most pleasingly the new hw&l remix of jessie ware 'confess to me' which is no fireworks iirc but perfectly corrects the original into just what you wanted it to be

haha i must say despite (or perhaps wood-for-the-trees because of) listening to 2:31 religiously i've never really detected too much difference between who's playing. and the "warm up" sections always seem pretty lively to me! shorterz picks out the great odd bit though, especially on poppy soulful songful lines - most recently saarid ft javi 'future lately' on nurvous from a few years ago but pitched right up

idk how to put it really, you just feel the enthusiasm with him, that pure hunger to find bits and not just scrape by playing promos he gets sent

kinda sadface that there hasn't been another bdot/jonarr-dotzz mor flip since 'rhythm's gonna get you'. he had such a gift for them!

yeah thats another tune i'm after.

still, at least with twilight zone the 'Grizzle' micro-genre is coming along nicely :)

hmm i am not familiar with this term, please advise

i swear i keep seeing it as tag on soundcloud, can't seem to find any examples now. I'd been wondering if anyone else had noticed this and its not just my imagination. Anyway the tunes I associate it with are C&As 'joe grizzly' and obviously the recent pete graham & loz ones and a few others. You know the type

yunno, the super abstract stygian soundworlds ;)

right ya i figured :)

was pondering if it mightve been a wordmash like grindie rather than a figurative like grime, but mainly i hadn't reckoned on 'joe grizzly' being in the lineage

grizzle... yeah i could get into it, beats 'weird jackin' at least

I will stan for any music designated "grizzle" on principle.

this grizzle stuff is a heady mix of stuff to try and tagcloud up

vonstroke/dirtybird, lo end big beat/hi concept ninja tune triphop (someone like dj vadim idk), old skool 8bar/grime thuggery thru to whatever you would categorise someone new wave like woz in... etc

it's great on 2:31 when they have occasional little moodpiece periods of playing this stuff together... you have all this house n bass mayhem and then you just absentmindendly drift off for a little uneasy while

vonstroke 'can't wait' is usually somewhere at the heart of it

"Kneadin" is the biggest tune not included IMO. Also some days my tune of 2013.

― Tim F, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:28 (Yesterday) Bookmark

this kinda manoeuvre is always where u earn your corn imo, know and love this tune like the back of my gnarled hand but idk if it ever would have occurred to me to pick it out to spotlight

vonstroke/dirtybird, lo end big beat/hi concept ninja tune triphop (someone like dj vadim idk), old skool 8bar/grime thuggery thru to whatever you would categorise someone new wave like woz in... etc

― r|t|c, Wednesday, October 9, 2013 10:25 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah woz did spring to mind, something like the remix of kry wolf's concrete maybe, those rock-hard electro beats with 808s. 'So special' by hw&loz even.

yeah 'dorothy's forest' and the 'concrete' remix in particular feel inseparable

queasy stuff like this too

https://soundcloud.com/de-contrebande/de-contrebande-middle-lane

https://soundcloud.com/de-contrebande/de-contrebande-breaking-bad-sc

Corn as in dues or as in corny

former natch, altho i will of course make note of the latter perversion for future use

I felt like both readings were both open and proper.

shorterz picks out the great odd bit though, especially on poppy soulful songful lines - most recently saarid ft javi 'future lately' on nurvous from a few years ago but pitched right up

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 00:48 (10 hours ago) Bookmark

just wanted to highlight a few more warm-up truffles that he's snuffled out:

Chew Lips - Hurricane (XXXY Remix)
Kim Ann Foxman - Return It (John Selway Remix)
Steven Stone & Wendy Lewis - New Lady (Scott Diaz '15 Years Too Late' Remix)
Jesse Rose ft Arama - Time Is But A Moment (Kavanah Remix)
Serena Ryder - Stompa (DeSmet & Trevor Shawn Remix)

are you back off holiday and reporting for duty now then btw tim or do i have to carry on doing tearful hairbrush renditions of patra 'worker man'

whats this tune that goes 'keep it going' 30 mins into the oct 2nd 2:31 set?

Benny: https://soundcloud.com/hannah_wants/hannahwants-signs-roller

Jesse Rose ft Arama - Time Is But A Moment (Kavanah Remix)

aw cheers, meant to ask if you could id this one for me!

on a poppy but not soulful tip - almost lost my shit when they opened up one of the rinse shows this summer with this unheralded '13 classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjZUdq3is9I

ah right knew i'd heard it before. Think i'm gonna be wanting a few ids off this set actually

aha instant karma mt, i was after the klp id! whatta choon

this morning's set is already up on rinse btw, shorterz and the always-momentarily-confusingly-named andy bell

For a second I thought this was gonna be a thread about Jackin' Pop

Lorenzo Mix volume 3

download
http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/65188216/file.html

stream
http://www.mixcloud.com/bennybrassic/lorenzo-mix-volume-three/

1. Super Shady - Tom Garnett & Chris Lorenzo
2. Sick Sunshine - Hannah Wants & Lorenzo
3. Who remembers cassettes - Pete Graham & Chris Lorenzo
4. Trouble - Tom Garnett & Chris Lorenzo
5. None A Them - Hannah Wants & Lorenzo
6. Angels - Pete Graham & Lorenzo
7. Hypnotizing - Rewbs & Lorenzo
8. Prove2U - Alex Parkin & Lorenzo
9. Battle (Cause & Affect remix) - Riddim Commission ft. Mr Hudson & Newham Generals
10. What I want - Hannah Wants & Lorenzo
11. The Twilight Zone - Pete Graham & Chris Lorenzo
12. Dirty Cash (2013 remix) - Ill Phil & Lorenzo
13. Changin' - Donkie Punch & Chris Lorenzo
14. Rhythm is gonna get you - Jonarr-Dotz & Lorenzo
15. Money can't bye it - Bdot & Lorenzo
16. I'm in chains - Brett Bdot Walters & Lorenzo
17. This & That - Drapes & Lorenzo
18. Kamikaze - Cause & Affect
19. Cut Me up (Cause & Affect remix) - Stanton Warriors
20. King of my castle - Pete Graham & Chris Lorenzo
21. Jump Around (2013 VIP) - Ill Phil & Lorenzo
22. Fake Double - Cause & Affect
23. Love for me - Cause & Affect
24. Lost - Donkie Punch & Chris Lorenzo - Lost

Ahhhhhh this looks great. I LOVE "This and That".

Excellent as per Benny! Love that Stanton Warriors remix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVA5-pdBNM4

yass

Yaaaah love this.

That's really great.

always felt the original had potential, thing was disclosure for all their talents are not quite the catwalk to let that seductress domineer

i'd underrated this though - v much recommend turning it up brutally loud so it obliterates the midrange

that's what i'm calling her from now on btw

Tom Shorterz 2:31 2nd Birthday Mix, Fuck Yeah

http://m.soundcloud.com/tom-shorterz/02-31-2nd-bday-mixtape-autumn

Wow @ Alyson Williams' "I Need Your Loving".

he done that brandy / ali love duet just for me, i know it

taking "autumn mixtape" at its word this is a beautifully judged just-loose-enough selection of chunky bangers and def a perfect showcase for shorterz' exemplary warm-up game wot i was talking about earlier

idk if it'll get the full ministry chart treatment but i kinda feel like the legit scandal 'fu gee la' refix might come back around in a bigger fashion next year, rap samples are totally on the come-up right now in every strain of house and this one's hanging in there in that particular way

alyson williams, jazzie b and nellee hooper innit nuff said. funnily enough i've recently been thinking about how the ldn shuffle scene is kinda maybe opening up a space for a different take on our beloved s&m streetsoul nuum but it's still too liminal to commission an official advisory document just yet i think

s&m streetsoul nuum

perfect

is there even a shuffle tune I could listen to that hints towards that.

erm well i honestly wasnt trying to be oblique for the sake of it, it doesnt really lend itself to a nutshell, just mystic divination via shitloads of listening sadly

http://soundcloud.com/officialrhyscat/rhys-cat-one-life

really this is the one that pushed it over the line for me, i guess it might not seem so much in a showy way but for something in its fashion to win an acceptance in this age does feel quite fresh, something long-dormant awakening

i mean everyone sorta knows the deal with shuffle by now, like what it's supposed to be - the narcotic introversion, stalking industrial bleak anomie, shade of bleep hardcore submarine sonorities and/or leather jacket geezer 8bar like jon e cash or w/e (also heard radford remark on one tune as "like a metalheadz version of house"), portentous digital boogie, some of it hot creations tongue-in-cheek, verging but rarely tipping into a jagged dexplicit/ballroom mania - one soundcloud tag had it as "3d house" which i quite like - these kinda revolving schematic polygonal mesh wireframe vertices and such, "cutting shapes" after all. 3d house also works best like 3d from massive attack who perhaps better exemplify the moody vox sample matrix than s&m, although there are some dubwise capers at play i feel

Absolutely love that stripe of funky tune that's like vaguely lethargic menacing bug-eyed 3am post-"Killer R&B-house - this, the Major Note$ remix of J-Will's "Deja Vu", the O.B. remix of Addictive's "Domino Effect"...

― Tim F, Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:55 (3 years ago) Bookmark

carnao 'get out' obviously the precursor blueprint for the vibe - sounding like terence trent d'arby as u said at the time - mark radford and lance morgan actually have one that samples lenny kravitz 'fly away'. a constellation might include

http://soundcloud.com/djtruce/truce-take-control-ft-kenny
http://soundcloud.com/audio-rehab-london/walking-on-rs4-featuring-a (lol duh)
http://soundcloud.com/markradford/nrxy-feat-iviee-mercutio
http://soundcloud.com/rs4house/dont-you-care
http://soundcloud.com/hugomassien/hugo-massien-menace-rip
http://soundcloud.com/danieldexter/righteoussound_danieldexterremix

idk ¯\(O_o)/¯

okay I will be checking all of these

"s&m streetsoul" also works particularly well owing to the excellent double entendre.

yeah no totally, i got it. entirely unintentional tbh but it does feel like a locked door just opened by itself...

LORENZO MIX - VOLUME 4

http://www37.zippyshare.com/v/60152587/file.html

1. Break the hold (Cause & Affect remix) - Linden Jay & Ruby Wood
2. Something in the water - Pete Graham & Lorenzo
3. Suitcase - Hannah Wants & Lorenzo
4. Kill my love (Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo remix) - Sam Divine ft. Amy Lyon
5. Shake it - Shaun Banger Scott & Lorenzo
6. Joker Smoker - Legitimate Scandal
7. Drugs - Double Trouble Vs Lorenzo
8. Chu Bah Ka - Pete Graham & Lorenzo
9. Round the clock (Cause & Affect remix) - P Money
10. The way to do it - Hannah Wants & Lorenzo
11. Rude Boy - Hannah Wants & Lorenzo
12. Fu-Gee-La - Legitimate Scandal
13. Wom (AKA Dorothy's Armpit) - Pete Graham & Lorenzo
14. Kneadin' - Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo
15. Lose it all - Hannah Wants & Lorenzo
16. Teardrop on fire - Hannah Wants & Lorenzo
17. Talladega Nights - House Monkeyz & Lorenzo
18. Incredible - Lorenzo
19. Your Fun - Legitimate Scandal ft. Jenny Jones
20. Selectro - Ill Phil & Lorenzo ft. Bryn Owen
21. Who Dat - Pete Graham & Lorenzo
22. Down Town - Ill Phil & Lorenzo
23. Boogie 2Nite (Ill Phil, Rewbs & Lorenzo mix) - Booty Luv
24. What a night - Sleepin' is cheatin'

!!!!!

The flood...

soundcloud link
https://soundcloud.com/bennybrassic2/lorenzo-mix-volume-four

mixcloud link
http://www.mixcloud.com/bennybrassic/lorenzo-mix-volume-4/

rtc, you had a bit of a turn-around on shuffle now then? I'm still not fully immersed, and don't have much of a grip on artist/tracks titles yet but been vibing off those House Ent. November live sets this week, you heard them? Good stuff. All the talk upthread of post 'killer' streetsoul boogie house seems like such a great idea and I agree some tunes are moving in this direction, not sure if its quite there yet though. Love that 'Gone in the morning' choon.

only heard the lance morgan one, good energy start but seemed to tail off into linearity after 15 mins... don't feel i've had altogether too much luck with live sets really, mainly i've become diligent about radford's shows - he's not quite the marcus of shuffle but they do feel more essentially concentrated for being a touch hungrier and more varied (him tracklisting clearly also helps a lot). however yeah i'm not all in by any means and wouldnt quite yet consider any set i've heard for agnostic presentation

idk basically i was feeling like my uk aesthetics had maybe not ossified but coagulated in a way that was preventing me seeing the wood for the trees with this stuff so i p much just blasted it non stop until the arterial crit blockage was forcibly dislodged :)

and yeah must stress the s&m proposal is inchoate to the point of wishful... still though, that rhys catania tune is very striking and i did stick on the carlton album again after my last post and if u squint ur ears the palette is really not too dissimilar tbh.... maybe i'll anonymously send the 'do you dream' accapella to carnao or something for a giggle

'gone in the morning' a choon indeed, lol at them being trying to be mysterious and evasive abt whether it was donaeo! completely unrelated to this all moody dubby biz but mark radford and false identity's remix of luke burr 'inside you' (public demand cash-in cover of victor romeo) is an absolute future summer bubbler worth seeking out

http://www.beatport.com/track/welcome-to-my-disco-chris-lorenzo-mix/4837918

better get cracking on vol 5 btw ben

There is this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkBDZARsGyA

that one's another textbook example of "yeah fine i get this whatever" hearing it first on soundcloud and then "urgh this tune is nasty what is it" some time later on the radio

(urgh in that singular good way of course)

am pressing play on yday's 2:31 right now should anyone care to join me btw

Yup, true re: You Love Me, I heard it the other way around, first on the new Hannah Wants mix, then on it's own.

http://soundcloud.com/marc-spence/marc-spence-feat-charlotte

<3 <3 <3

benny b, you are an absolute treat

Nice compilation free to download here: Bullet Train Allstars Volume II - https://soundcloud.com/bullettrainrecords/sets/bullet-train-allstars-volume/ - w/ Dorothy's Forest and Cause & Affect's Poppin, plus others.

ed case 'speechless' is excellent off that, benny had it on his q homage mix a few months ago iirc

yep, the ongaku tune on that comp is a tasty bit of house n bass too i reckon.

The tune I really want to get my mitts on is c&a's 'ironside', guess thats not coming out now though.

can't find that luke burr remix anywhere btw, any pointers? (radford's show I suppose)

http://www19.zippyshare.com/v/14567758/file.html

unnecessarily large soz

muchas gracias, that is indeed great.

the lance morgan was my fave out of those november sets (the arun verone one is also worth a listen). Know what you mean about the slightly tedious linearity of a lot of sets but I thought that one livened up a bit again with that big fun remix. speaking of remixes of old rinsed classics theres this from a radford show
http://youtu.be/_FbtBaAwhrM

back to jackin, no sooner are the words out of my my mouth when...
https://soundcloud.com/causenaffect/free-download-cause-affect

hadn't noticed this one had the same vocal sample as 'kneadin'. Very similar sound palette in general in fact. Such a FUCK OFF tune <3 <3 <3 it

ha beautiful stuff. this is a freebie now too i just spotted, still the absolute nuts

http://soundcloud.com/tomgarnett11/tom-garnett-chris-lorenzo-2

funnily enough (well it's fairly logical and probably just confirmation bias but hey intersectionalism) as shuffle gains little footholds in the wider house world it doesnt seem as awk as it did a few weeks ago to talk about it and jackin simultaneously, some bits are starting to turn up in 2:31s and this mix in particular has a fair smattering of crossover

http://soundcloud.com/tom-shorterz/tom-shorterz-rinse-x-02-31-1

shorterz' own 'baby' tune there especially unexpected imo. on the other side of things shuffle has its moments too - low steppa in the audio rehab fold now for one and in the new radford set there's a brill new false identity tune called 'let the bass roll' round the half hour mark that's a zincish funk break roller i'd wager cause and affect would be proud to call their own. might rip it later tonight but the whole set's sounding as good as any to check out in full i'd say

http://soundcloud.com/marc-spence/marc-spence-feat-charlotte

<3 <3 <3

― r|t|c, Thursday, 28 November 2013 23:08 (1 week ago) Bookmark

can i just repost this btw cos i seriously adore it. my parallel universe fantasy record label has in fact apportioned a significant budget to ensure its rightful destiny as 90s dee-lite style top 20 novelty hit

Jackin basically continues to be the best party music there is

It's been interesting hearing Hannah Wants straddling the line in her sets between jackin and the moodier (and chartier) uk house bubblers - she never QUITE abandons her jackin roots and there's no doubt the two sides of the coin go together quite comfortably, but it feels to me like there's something irreducible and un-co-optable about straight jackin tunes, a willful narstienesss that stakes them to the underground come hell or high water

i realize i'm tempting the gods by saying "un-co-optable" but fuck it

lol at but <3 'annoying little dweeb', and woah this new marc spence ep is fucking sick! Remember hearing that tune 'be there' a few weeks on some show (2:31 probably?) and nearly doing my neck in. File next to the brilliant Pete Graham 'friends' release from last month.
https://soundcloud.com/marc-spence/marc-spence-collaborations-ep

rtc, i haven't listened yet to the shorterz and radford sets you mention above, but you mentioning a 'zincish funk break roller' has got me thinking about early noughties breakbeat garage in relation to jackin'. The tuff steppin' n risin' bassline on 'be there' sounds like beatfreakz or blowfelt or someone. then there was all the 4x4 stuff like narrows, dj wire, dj faz etc which also often reminds me of lorenzo's sound. i sometimes think of jackin as taking those essentially flawed garage offshoot genres and making perfection out it by adding a sense of humour. mind you, has anybody done a jackin hnb version of 'I don't smoke the reefer' yet? Cos it would make perfect sense and be kinda obvious.

anyway not got much to add about the shuffle/jackin convergence til i've listened to those sets this weekend.

i suppose the very fact that dj pantha didn't really switch to jackin after bassline died, but became Arun Verone and blew up on the london scene must stand for something. Got the latest radford on now and notice he's dropping a few tunes from midlands producers too.

woah yeah this 'let the bass roll' thing is totally c&a meets zinc!

aaah and now that luke burr remix, this set is ace so far, probably the best I've heard from this scene 1 hour in at least. I can see a few anthems getting in the coming year, it definitely seems to be on the very cusp of something or other. must admit im quite baked atm and this may not sound so good tomorrow, but i'm really,properly enjoying this one for a change rather than just trying to like it.

*a few anthems getting made

definitely more varied than the sets i've listened to up to now. its even gone all speed garagey now with this lowsteppa 'benediction' remix and its all blending very nicely with the more techy stuff.

Jackin basically continues to be the best party music there is

Agreed. Started trying to put together an EOY list, absolutely dominated by Lorenzo and Wants.

typed up the tl for the Mark Radford 30.11.13 Rinse show for anyone interested.

http://podcast.dgen.net/rinsefm/podcast/MarkRadford301113.mp3

1. Jack that Body (Nightshift remix) - Louie Anderson
2. We attack - Oliver Rees
3. Here Kitty Kitty (Mark Radford remix) - Louie Anderson
4. Let me be - Locate
5. Down (x5 Dubs remix) Shay & Sinista
6. Nothing gunna be the same - Jamie Baggotts
7. Know my name (Lowsteppa remix) - Carnao Beats
8. Bass roll - False Identity
9. Get down - Max Britton
10. Who got the funk? - Oliver Rees
11. Last straw - Sleazy Deep
12. Let's go outside - SDP
13. Inside you - Mark Radford & False Identity ft. Luke Burr
14. Badd Bassline - AndMe and Bastian
15. Secrets - Luke Larrell
16. Benediction (Lowsteppa remix) - Hot Natured & Ali Love
17. Made you Look (Hugo Massien remix) - Nightshift
18. Little Man (RS4 remix) - Sia
19. Valley of the shadows (Will Clarke, Steve Westover & Some bloke called John rerub) - Origin Unknown
20. Silence is Golden - Mark Radford & False Identity
21. Through the K-Hole (Louie Anderson remix) - Nightshift
22. Ima Read that Bitch - Amine Edge & Dance
23. Hating me - Tough Love
24. Lost - Amine Edge & Dance

erm i've got the last few months worth typed up as well if anyone should want

definitely more varied than the sets i've listened to up to now. its even gone all speed garagey now with this lowsteppa 'benediction' remix and its all blending very nicely with the more techy stuff.

― Benny B, Friday, 6 December 2013 01:14 (2 days ago) Bookmark

ha yeah i'm actually mildly nonplussed by this considering i'd already gone out my way to meet shuffle on its previously icy terms... typically now i half-wonder if it might not be losing the essential run of itself a little :)

erm i've got the last few months worth typed up as well if anyone should want

― r|t|c, Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:11 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark

thats very thorough of you :)

haven't really been listening to radfords shows til now but if you could post one of the best ones with a tl it'd be appreciated. Would you say this nov 30 set is atypically varied and warmer sounding for him? Some of my faves on there are the icy, menacing ones from louie anderson and nightshift.

yer man trilliam would likely know better than i tbh but yeah the sets have been gradually warming up i'd say - def an influx of new producer blood (from outside london probably tellingly) bringing a grimier energy vibe (showcased here to launch radford's new sublabel, although the tracks sound better still in the show context i think: http://soundcloud.com/plusrecordings/plus-recordings-promo-mix) and then yeah the introduction of the false identity and low steppa type bits has for the moment folded garagey fun back into the equation. picking up some rap samples too (where jackin of course led the way)

the 'old' guard so to speak (carnao, rs4, playtime, storm, d'vinci, louie anderson, nightshift, nrky) are still the crucial framework to the whole thing for sure though... i did actually listen to a couple of sets from february and july i still had knocking around just for comparison and in retrospect the aspects i like now probably were there then too (albeit arguably in a more mimetic chrysalis stage idk) and i'd just been uncharitable

set picked fairly at random (they're all quite even really, although the one with the shay & sinista guest mix recently that i believe you heard was a bit of a flop imo). iirc radford accidentally coins the splendid phrase "upgrunt house" here btw

[Rinse FM Podcast] Mark Radford - 19th October 2013
http://www5.zippyshare.com/v/712779/file.html

Oliver Rees - Energy
D'Vinci - Modus Operandi
NRKY - Self Destruct
Area 8 - I Am
Truce ft Kenny Knots - Take Control
Rs4 - Walking On
Nightshift - Cult Music
False Identity - Goon To A Goblin
Shay & Sinista - To You
Roger Porterfield - Candy Acid
Fluorescent Noise - Go Deep
Martin Ikin - Nothing To Fear
Fluorescent Noise - Feel The Same
Nightshift - Higher
D'Vinci - Every Weekend
Rs4 - Locked On You
Carnao Beats ft Donae'o - Gone In The Morning
Hugo Massien - Menace
Kane Law - Free Your Mind
Rs4 - In The Dark
Rs4 & Pretty Casual (aka Kane Law) - Time Out
Hugo Massien - Untitled
Rhys Catania - One Life

[Rinse FM Podcast] Mark Radford - 26th October 2013
http://www5.zippyshare.com/v/38547232/file.html

Seb Aston - In Love With You
Apollo 84 - Baby I Like It Raw
Steve Bug - Endless Squares
Oliver Rees - When You Go
Darius Syrossian - I'll Do Anything (Leftwing & Kody Remix)
Area 8 - I Am
Joyce Muniz - It's Your Life
Just Joe & Max Britton - Chemical Dub
SEF - Dance The Night Away
DJ Seany B & DJ Random - Dark Shadow
Durty Fresh - Down The Hole
D'Vinci - Every Weekend
NRKY - Soul Burn
D'Vinci - Nice One
Lemar - The First Time (Rs4 Remix)
Craig Benjamin - Feel That
Russ Jay - Flavour
Arun Verone & Kaiden Gray - Matt Blaque
Lisa C - House Loon (Jack n Danny Remix)
Rs4 - Walking On (Mark Radford Remix)
Just Joe & Max Britton - Right Now
Shay & Sinista - Restless World
The Outcast - Let's Go Back

check russ jay' flavour' at 80mins there esp btw... badboy groove

absolutely wicked, thats my afternoon sorted, thanks

agree that the plus recordings stuff is sounding very promising, I like the Oliver Rees ones a lot too and this area 8 track 'I am' is properly dutty.

got the 26th oct set on now. the odb remix!!!

Listening to these now. Everytime they use vocals it goes from good to brilliant: Truce's "Take Control"!

"Walking On"!

Yeah thank you r|t|c and Benny for these links!

"GONE IN THE MORNING"!!!!!

This song has changed my life.

Need to check out that mix.

Lots of Rs4 tracks as well, never heard of them.

rs4 actually happens to be oris jay

lol i would not have expected that

Kind of makes sense. There's a definite progressive vibe to that first Mark Radford mix that ain't far off the vibe of Oris Jay's breakbeat garage back in the day.

All the dub effects and overall sense of urgency.

a few months old i know, but have to draw attention to this awesome track from Playtime Productions in case anyone missed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MchTufJfgoA

but really anything I've heard from has been great - our kind, inevitable, cruel summer, sicker than your average, how to love me, born to die remix, just one kiss are all fantastic. They seem quite akin to jackin in their approach to samples and remixes. Probably my favourite producers out of this scene so far.

RS4's "Locked On You" is so massive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ1g_N30SwM

srsly benny what can we say about this

oh my days...

this was actually wrongly id'd on dissensus (unless its a new remix or something) as a Majesty & Vanz track from this set https://soundcloud.com/majestydj001/siesta-nye-sidings-warehouse

seems like the tracks been around at least a year then. That Majesty set is sick btw if you haven't already heard it.

could almost be a bdot/lorenzo cut minus the gonzo bass drop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJA2ZFBxUnw

Actually finding that this Radford-style deeptech/whatever fits a bit better with me than jackin' did/does.

LORENZO MIX VOLUME FIVE

http://www.mixcloud.com/bennybrassic/lorenzo-mix-volume-five/

1. Sleepin' Is Cheatin' - Who's Right
2. Sleepin' Is Cheatin'& Tom Zanetti - Nocturnal
3. Sleepin' Is Cheatin' & Rae Rae - Less Of You (Bass Mix)
4. Sleepin' Is Cheatin', Tom Garnett & Tom Zanetti - Eargasm
5. Drapes & Lorenzo - Hold On
6. Ill Phil & Lorenzo - At Night
7. Tom Garnett & Lorenzo - Moving Closer
8. Ill Phil, The House Monkeys & Lorenzo - Gunna Get Ya
9. Twisted Grooves - Heartbeat
10. Let Me Show Ya - Ill Phil & Lorenzo
11. CoLdCuTs & Lorenzo - Forever
12. Hannah Wants & Jamie George - Butterflies
13. Cause & Affect _ Ironside
14. Cause & Affect - Temple run
15. Micky Slim & Wideboys feat. Lady Chann - Welcome To My Disco (Chris Lorenzo Mix)
16. Pete Graham & Lorenzo - Marina Gasolina (808 Refix)
17. Cause and Affect & Will Bailey - The Mexican
18. Double Trouble & Lorenzo - Let Me Think About It
19. Twisted Grooves feat. Bryn Owen - Beat 4 Me
20. Sleepin Is Cheatin' - Walk On
21. Rewbs & Lorenzo - California Dreaming
22. Ill Phil & Lorenzo - Teardrops
23. Lucy Love - We Are The Stars (Tom Shorterz 02.31 riddim)
24. Aaron Jay Jake Mcilroy & Lorenzo - Papas got a brand new beat

!!

(DL?)

http://www2.zippyshare.com/v/6429178/file.html

thank you!

http://thump.vice.com/mixes/mixed-by-hannah-wants

Hannah Wants mix for Skream & Benga:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01pd1h3

So the Paranoid Resistance EP on Rinse ("Smoke Machine" plus two new tracks) basically presents jackin' as a (more) stripped down versh of the Forgemasters:

http://rinse.fm/news/tom-shorterz-chris-lorenzo-present-paranoid-resistance/

hadnt occurred to me but yeah totally. great ep

https://soundcloud.com/tom-shorterz/rinse-fm-podcast-tom-shorterz

shorterz has very kindly gone to the trouble of putting up (in 320!) the awesome SPEED GARAGE SPECIAL half of the 15th jan 2:31 show but i would actually personally urge you all to get the whole thing while you can cos the first half of new material is van helden as fuck anyway and the dialogue between the two is imo v illuminating and satisfying

i mean just look @ this tracklist like:

Rinse FM Podcast - Tom Shorterz b2b Cause & Affect 97-98 Speed Garage Special !!!!!
1. Smile Orange ‎– More Than A Million
2. Double 99 - Jump Jump (R.I.P Productions)
3. 8th Wonder Featuring DJ Marco V. & Benjamin ‎– Deeper
4. Dangerous Dubz Vol 2 - Don't Hold Back (Jeremy Sylvester)
5. Sly - Badbwoy (Slippin EP)
6. Northbank - Musik
7. G.O.D 4 - Watch Ya Bass Bins
8. Debbie Malone vs The Billionaire Boys - Rescue Me
9. Sub Kutz - It's The way
10. Tail Spin - All Massive
11. KCC + Ty Holden ‎– International Soundbwoy Pt2
12. The Inside (Sol Bros Mash Up Dub By Sol Brothers)
13. Rhythm Construction EP (White Label)
14. Nu-Vybez ‎– Ultra-Funkula
15. R.I.P Productions - Buggsy's theme
16. Roc Steady - Don't Make Me Wait
17. New Horizons – Scrap Iron Dubz
18. System X - Red Or Blue
19. G.O.D - Unlimited (Toxic Dub)
20. Lisa Stansfield - the Line (Loop Da Loop)
21. A Questions 4 You - Bonus Bass
22. R.I.P - Work It Out
23. Ultimate Seduction - A Nightmare Walking
24. Volcano & Tee - No Gal Tune

The first half is totally amazing as well!

Such a sustained run of tweaked machine noise jackin.

is it jackin

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=443065059072623

and were you able to ID it

Sub Kutz - It's The way

THIS TUNE

that shorterz rinse ep is like.... fuck

house is being reborn in the midlands

i mean it's like.. reclaiming the sheer shamelessness of classic house sounds. and - i guess i'm late to this - it's looped back around full circle to the original def'n of "jackin house". it's hard to imagine the first hour not just absolutely slaying a chicago dancefloor

some of this stuff even sounds like belgian techno

goin in on the speed garage section, lightly prepped with a danny tenaglia sample and...... hoooooly shiiiiit

anybody got a tracklisting for hour 1?

Solid Groove & Sinden - Got To Get Up
Dan Ghenacia - Hillcrest
??
Cause & Affect - The Tickle
Aden - Whip (Jimmy Edgar Remix)
??
Justin Martin vs Ardalan - Lezgo VIP
Friend Within - The Show
Catz Eats Dogz - Evil Tram
Paranoid Resistance - Smoke Machine
??
Richy Ahmed ft Kevin Knapp - The Drums
Nick Olivetti - Alto Sex
ZDS - Bang Ze Box
Paranoid Resistance - Stabiliser
??
Panteros666 - Baby F-16 (Cause & Affect Remix)
New York Transit Authority - 95
Ray Foxx & Tom Piper ft Ayah Marar - Only Way (Cause & Affect Remix)
Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo ft Karin Park - Shine
Sonny Fodera ft Amber Jolene - Hold It Down (Cause & Affect Remix)
Paranoid Resistance - The Tunnel
Paranoid London ft Mutado Pintado - Transmission 5

idk if there's any plans to rerelease but i rly feel like that richy ahmed tune wants to go top 5, i mean like who on this earth doesnt get nutty to that shit

yeah the richy achmed is being caned by everyone still, deservedly so. friend within seem destined for big things too i reckon going by their new stuff.

oh, just in case youse haven´t already seen it
https://soundcloud.com/dappa_d_music/groove-87-lorenzo-got-2-be

i can feel a volume 6 coming on

https://soundcloud.com/friendwithin/essential-mix

Damn, I missed the first half of 2:31 from Jan 5th. Anyone got a reup?

xp yep otm looking v much like friend within will be this year's (happily less boilerplate) shadow child... shift k3y the new disclosure too hopefully

cause & affect remixes have officially taken on the guaranteed maximum damage mantle of prime ill blu

https://soundcloud.com/maxmarshallmusic/ill-blu-ft-max-marshall-blu-1

this of whom i should probably mention!

Thanks for the tracklist, rtc

no probs. be sure and check up my upcoming website letmeshazamthatforyou.com :)

ilx: when shazam is just too difficult

I suppose this is the best thread for me to shamelessy publicise a mix Barcelona's DJ David M did for me, includes Jackin' stuff, bassline, funky etc... I'm sure some of you will be into it.

https://soundcloud.com/jah-klaw/dirtnap-presents-david-m-in

Devine UK - Serious Thugs
X5 Dubs - Makin Love
B15 - Girls Like Us (Agent X 2013 Mix)
Topsee & Preshus - The Riddim
Low Steppa - Dissolve
Dj Eastwood - Sometime
Dj Charmzy - Old Skool
Oliver Rees - We Attack
Alex Deamonds - Through
Nightshift - Made You Look (Hugo Massien Remix)
Distro - City Lights (Hybrid Theory Remix)
Tazer - Childs Play
Tom Garnett & Chris Lorenzo ft Tom Zanetti - P.A.R.T.Y.
RS4 - Walking On
Devine UK - If You Need
Rachel K Collier - Predictions (Dj S.K.T Remix)
Primrose Hill - Candy Rain (Black Ice Ents ‘Citrus’ Mix)
MC Kie- Dubplate Ting (What They Say)
Jack n Danny - Chemistry
Devine UK - Bun That House Down
Mr.Mageeka - Bracka t1o
Luke Burr - Inside You (Mark Radford & False ID Remix)
DJ Champion & Terror Danjah ft Elrae - The Way You Move
DevelopMENT - Last Night
Funkystepz & Lady Ice - Mr.Volvic
Jus Now Vs Kes - Check Your Body Parts
Stylo G - Badd (Friend Within Remix)
Scruffizer - Kick It (Marshall F Remix)
Preditah - Red Bull 2014
Ed Case feat Rony Blue - Tears I Cry
Gorgon City feat MNEK - Ready For Your Love

LORENZO MIX VOLUME SIX

http://www.mixcloud.com/bennybrassic/lorenzo-mix-volume-six/

1. Got 2 B - Groove 87 & Lorenzo
2. Let it feel (Organ Groove mix) - Daft Jack & Chris Lorenzo
3. Hype on this - Twisted Grooves
4. You´re dreaming - Twisted Grooves
5. P.A.R.T.Y. - Tom Garnett & Chris Lorenzo ft. Tom Zanetti
6. Social Experiment - Cause & Affect
7. Smoke Machine - Paranoid Resistance
8. The Tickle - Cause & Affect
9. Stabiliser - Paranoid Resistance
10. You love me - Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo
11. The Tunnel - Paranoid Resistance
12. Call it fate - Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo
13. One - Cause & Affect
14. Fighting the source - Sleepin´is Cheatin´Vs. Sweet Beat Cartel
15. Your Caress - Twisted Grooves
16. I can´t get no sleep (VIP mix) - Ill Phil & Lorenzo
17. What would you do - Rewbs & Lorenzo
18. Flex - Sleepin´is Cheatin´

"PARANOID RESISTANCE" = <3 <3

dl link
http://www.sendspace.com/file/wi30a6

Benny you are a superstar.

Funny how Smoke Machine is already such a deathless classic.

I remember first hearing it in a 2:31 track in July and totally loving it but kinda doubting myself, like "will I quickly get over what is such a slight track?"

But it's as compulsive now as it was then, more so maybe.

2:31 set, that is.

Didn't realize it had been around that long.

second hour of the 26th feb marcus/2:31 b2b show is a must, shantie & illaman bromancing it like a man from france over all the c&a clankers

like grinning ear-to-ear involuntary micro-skank on public transport business

god i missed shants

shantie & illaman bromancing it like a man from france over all the c&a clankers

my god yes

"hey listen... you're a don"

Also the track that starts at about 45 minutes sampling Busta is amazing.

All the best sets are shantie plus one aren't they. Ruinous geezers here.

Shantie's new (?) poltical bars at about 74 minutes are A+

And bloody hell the Lorenzo remix of "Touch" is perhaps the best piece of music ever made.

Has ever a tune captured the "R&B sweetness remorselessly tortured by robot demons in hell" vibe so perfectly?

could someone be kind enough to upload that marcus/2:31 show? missed it and now it's not available. thanks in advance.

Here ya go don. Got no commentary on this to add to rtc and tim's but it's definitely a good one.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/nicryx

Ah good work oppet.

bless

tim, are you aware that lorenzo is just about to tour australia?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=840589149288501&set=a.701946486486102.1073741828.663608103653274&type=1&theater

!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will be there

Damn, jealous!

When will Lorenzo and Hannah Wants come to Amsterdam?

Seems like a really good time to see him play as well going by that Marcus Nasty set on Rinse.

a Geelong date? ha, that'd be wild

It seems entirely appropriate somehow :)

Jackin' is totes Geelong.

I can't imagine who'd show up at that gig. Maybe the sorts of people that used to frequent "the Nash". But I haven't been out there in about 5 years.

made a mix! mostly stuff you all know pretty well by now but if anyone's interested:

https://soundcloud.com/mind-taker/mind-taker-house-bass-partela

DevelopMENT - Catch Your Breath
Stanton Warriors - Cut Me Up (Cause & Affect Remix)
U Know The Drill - Stackin' Papers
Tom Garnett & Chris Lorenzo - Moving Closer
Legitimate Scandal - Fu Gee La
Bdot & Chris Lorenzo - Money Cant Bye It
Kry Wolf - The Flood
Kyle Watson - Detuned
Dirty Playa & Paul Lawrence - The Rain
Justin Martin & Eats Everything - The Gettup
Tom Garnett & Chris Lorenzo feat. Tom Zanetti - P.A.R.T.Y
Alex Parkin & Chris Lorenzo - Prove2U
Davey Ecko & Thomas Graham - Better Believe
Komon - So Easy
Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo - You Love Me
Motez - Take Off
Cause & Affect - Kamikaze
Marc Spence & Tomola - Be There
DJ Q - Big
ZDS - Bang Ze Box
Lana Del Rey - Video Games (Reset Safari's 'Lost in 94' Remix)

^`will get round to this mix shortly.

decent interview with lorenzo here. says he makes 200-300 tracks a year!
http://thump.vice.com/en_ca/words/chris-lorenzo-ghostwrote-your-favorite-bassline-anthems

B2B w Target:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01xq1pd

LORENZO MIX VOLUME 7

http://www.mixcloud.com/bennybrassic/lorenzo-mix-volume-7/

1. Shine (Hannah Wants and Chris Lorenzo remix) - Karin Park
2. Ridonkulous - Cause & Affect
3. Operation 60 - Cause & Affect
4. Girls - Hannah Wants and Chris Lorenzo
5. Oasis (Hannah Wants and Chris Lorenzo remix) - Alpines
6. Baby F-16 (Cause & Affect remix) - Panteros666
7. One day - Donkie Punch & Lorenzo
8. Touch (Chris Lorenzo remix) - Shift K3y
9. Testosterone Deficiency - Cause & Affect
10. Pretty fly - Neville Bartos & Lorenzo
11. Run run run (Hannah Wants and Chris Lorenzo remix) - Mac
12. Don´t go - Twisted Grooves
13. Love will save the day - Rewbs & Lorenzo
14. I go out - Francois & Chris Lorenzo
15. Only way (Cause & Affect remix) - Ray Foxx & Tom Piper
16. Breathe - Hannah Wants and Chris Lorenzo
17. The Fog - CoLdCuTs & Lorenzo
18. Hit the road Jack - Ill Phil & Chris Lorenzo
19. Man Cub - Pete Graham & Lorenzo
20. Wanna be like a man - Lorenzo & Ryan James
21. Horny - Ill Phil & Lorenzo

download link to follow

This edition appears to be filled with BOTTLERS.

:)

<3 kane's all-caps brum hollerations but that particular contronym was truly dazzling

is it the capturing of an essence, is it shorthand for breaking of glass sfx (perhaps over one's head), idk but it works tho

weekly 0231 show tracklists seem to evolve glacially these days but i consume them with a religious fervour all the same. proper djs

the c&a ep is fantastic obv - feel a duty to shout out the captivating 'dreams' to make up it for missing benny's latest instalment this time round

it is btw literally impossible now not to accompany any audition of 'testosterone deficiency' with "make noise my original crew, i'm original me, you're original you..." etc

Sometimes I just grunt to myself: "...BOTTLERS..."

I need to transcribe Shantie's rhyme about London.

heres the dl link for vol 7

http://www.sendspace.com/file/a2zgzk

Anyone else notice that dudes quietly gave away "Testosterone Deficiency" for free last month?

http://www.mixmag.net/music/exclusive-music/download-cause--affect

Also loving this tune from Taiki & Nulight & DevelopMENT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcsoYEq_8dA&list=UUQmfV1TICetGdGAXfGTHgVw

So frisky.

https://soundcloud.com/hannah_wants/hannah-wants-mixtape-0714

could someone id for me (or maybe shazam it, my phone's not working) the tune at 28 mins svp. heard it on a 0231 a while ago and was instantly smitten

it is the quaalude clownstep dj faz x art of noise one that sounds like it could be a patrick topping perhaps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdzFD4-wR84

feel like such a wrong un walking around town on these glorious summers days with this revolving round my head.... BOTTLER

whh-tshh!

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 13:27 Bookmark

Holy shit.

LORENZO MIX - VOLUME 8

http://www.mixcloud.com/bennybrassic/lorenzo-mix-volume-8/

1. The Model - Stikkylips & Lorenzo
2. Shopaholic (Jayye Jackin, Dappa D & Lorenzo remix) - Wideboys ft. Mclean & Sway
3. Beautiful people (Ill Phil & Lorenzo remix) - Chris Brown & Benny Benassi
4. It´s you - Ill Phil, The House Monkeys & Lorenzo
5. Baby Cop - Ill Phil & Lorenzo
6. The Inforcer - Cause & Affect
7. Confess to me (Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo remix) - Disclosure & Jessie Ware
8. Freak for you (Francois & Chris Lawrence remix) - Louis Benton
9. Hold it down (Cause & Affect remix) - Sonny Fodera
10. Listen up - Apexape & Chris Lorenzo
11. Dreams - Cause & Affect
12. Home - Legitimate Scandal
13. Body Low - Stikkylips & Lorenzo
14. Unmistakeable - Aggz & Lorenzo
15. You´ve been gone (Chris Lorenzo remix) - My Nu Leng
16. Sincere - Pete Ellis & Lorenzo
17. Got to give (Heavier mix) - Apexape & Chris Lorenzo
18. Summertime - Sleepin´ is cheatin´
19. You´ve got the love (VIP remix) - Ill Phil & Lorenzo

download link to follow

https://www.sendspace.com/file/oyvlmt

my god this hannah wants ´roots´ is really something. no one really talks about this era of speed garage/bassline/funky house do they? only know one track (or even artist) on the whole thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqr2jqsQx28&feature=youtu.be

Track list:

01. Fatima Rainey – Hey (Mount Rushmore’s Deep Vocal Mix)
02. Ladycop – To Be Real
03. Mass Medium – Got To Have It
04. Roger Ruff – Do Ya (Great Bass Mix)
05. DJ Pooch – Let The Bass Roll (Funky Mix)
06. Nu Force – When The Morning Comes (DJ Flavours Club mix)
07. Gordon Matthews – Itza Trumpet Thing
08. Robin S – Midnight (Ultimix 68)
09. Sara Parker – My Love Is Deep (Sharp Vocal Mix)
10. Silvio Ecomo – Uprising (Speed Garage Mix)
11. EEDB Vs Flirtations – Time (TnG Mix)
12. Funk Junkeez – Got Funk (Heavy On Da Bass Mix)
13. The ‘701’ Track
14. Agro DJ’s – Run To Me
15. Clubbit – All I Wanna Do
16. Celetia- Rewind (Rob Bee RMX)
17. GB Experience – Gimmie The Bass
18. Jonestown – Sweet Thang (Mustard Mix)
19. B15 Project & Mr Vegas – Birmingham Crew
20. 99 Allstars – Chemical Generation (Upstate J60 Vocal Experience)
21. Twin Town – Rock It
22. Twin Town – Risin’
23. Philly Station ft. Tammi Wright – Mon Supa Love (Agent Sumo RMX)
24. Ruff Driverz – Deeper Love (Ruff Mix)
25. Summer Junkies - Hey Y’all
26. Devoted - Gotta Have (Antoine & Mad Mark RMX)
27. Miss Peppermint – Let Me Hear The DJ
28. 2 Eivissa – Move Your Body
29. Fake – Outstanding (Perqx Disco Mix)
30. Luthor Vandross – Never Too Much (RMX)
31. Summer Junkies – Basslines Live Forever

Ruff Driverz – Deeper Love (Ruff Mix)

right away my interest is piqued

yeah these glimpses into the secret lineage of the bigtunesmp3 nuum (if u like) (and by extension the bassline scene) are really fascinating

iirc other jackin scene characters (perhaps not the big hitters) have done similar soundcloud mixes albeit never tracklisted... some are like rave or piano organ house classics etc

on the 0231 shows shorterz has a couple times made intriguing reference to a birmingham scene or vibe where speed garage ruled presumably a lot longer or laid ruffer roots than it did elsewhere

tbh besides like idk madchester and bristol (and the odd fleeting derisory lol at donk or scouse house or w/e) how many of these localised histories beyond london ever see the light of recorded day - not to mention the extent to which london takes historical credit for groundswells elsewhere

http://www.gregwilson.co.uk/2013/07/cutting-shapes-how-house-music-really-hit-the-uk/

read this bit the other week actually, highly recommended

i mean i guess "secret lineage" is exactly wrong tho - more like just the process of things being so popular they become forgotten and vice versa

OK, this Roots mix looks essential, downloading now!

reckon these mixes will be worth investigating too, loads of stuff from the early noughties
http://www.nichebackintheday.com/#!music/c1x9v

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBl-kfw9vs4

http://trapmagazine.co.uk/2014/07/23/tom-shorterz/

like shorterz sez in the above brum-relevant article this tune is a proper throwback to the era. nice to see rinse getting behind it

https://soundcloud.com/tom-shorterz/the-rockport-stomper-summer-of-98

https://soundcloud.com/pete-graham/mark-starr-mortem-pete-graham

also bits like this too

for completions sake

13. The ‘701’ Track

= Trina & Tamara 'What'd You Come Here For?' (Marvel & Eli Vocal Mix) (2003)

Kinda loving Shorterz soft new sound e.g. the above "Colours" remix, "Why". Feel these are my special pretties.

timely
https://soundcloud.com/tom-shorterz/tom-shorterz-the-rockport-stomper-summer-of-98-free-download-wav

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJx1-gBHaAc

tbh if we're talking kinda 90s bigroom tong retro then this here smasher is way more brainbug than undie bobbins innit

Fuck yeah:

http://rinse.fm/releases/rinse047/

that is a very nicely written press release. i feel i should point that out. thumbs up to that person.

like it sez, the ep totally is a great microcosm of the shows - they haven't tended to announce these tracks so it was a pleasant surprise to discover all these familiar bits were in fact c&a, especially as they'd been on a run of grimy bass devastators in remixing other people. ('dimensions' in partic is exactly like some great unassuming lil groover shorterz might have found on local talk or w/e) (thread of shorterz jams would be something i'd be happy to talk to myself in actually)

lorenzo's aptitude for hazy summer vibes lately is perhaps a bit underappreciated - the c&a mix of zinc 'show me', 'i wanna be'...

Mistakes is all-time, obv. Great to have this official version.

Not sure I've heard the other ones before tho. Bird Flu sounds like it could belong on a Perlon release or something.

Somewhat perversely, I'd totally get this on vinyl if Rinse pressed it up. I'm increasingly reverting to some old school ways :)

Kinda loving Shorterz soft new sound e.g. the above "Colours" remix, "Why". Feel these are my special pretties.

― Tim F, Thursday, 14 August 2014 15:31 Bookmark

ahhhhhh rainbow tearz https://soundcloud.com/tom-shorterz/denitia-and-sene-side-fx-tom-shorterz-ravey-mix

anyone know for sure if lorenzo co-produced menajatrois? can't find it now but I'm fairly sure DJ Q mentioned him in a tweet or something when it was released on his label. Its gotta be him right?

https://soundcloud.com/francoisuk/francois-ft-louis-benton-mr

need to know if volume 9s ever gonna happen

yep

DJ Q
Louis Benton killing it at Five Bar in Huddersfield! His single Menajatrois with Francois and Lorenzo is out now on my label Q Recordings! https://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/menajatrois-feat.-louis-benton/id877563691
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LORENZO MIX VOLUME 9

https://www.mixcloud.com/bennybrassic/lorenzo-mix-volume-9/

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ule202

1. Lights - J. Phlip & Chris Lorenzo
2. Signs - Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo ft. Janai
3. Menajatrois - Francois ft. Louis Benton & Mr Limey
4. Get to the chopper - Cause & Affect
5. Rhymes - Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo
6. Strange signal - Cause & Affect X Preditah
7. Stampede - Cause & Affect
8. Delirious (Chris Lorenzo remix) - Steve Aoki, Chris Lake, Tujamo & Kid Ink
9. Brrrap (Shorterz & Long Shanks remix) - Tom Piper & Blaze Tripp
10. Reverse skydiving (Tom Shorterz remix) - Hot Natured ft. Anabel Englund
11. Hangin on - Donkie Punch & Chris Lorenzo
12. The Grid (Paranoid Resistance mix) - Tom Shorterz
13. Walls - J. Phlip & Chris Lorenzo ft. High Priestess
14. Foorest - Cause & Affect
15. Breathe N Stop - Midas T, Nick Jay & Lorenzo
16. Mombassa (Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo mix) - ADjectedDeleted
17. Rapper's delight - Riceboy & Lorenzo
18. Don't call me my size - House Monkeyz & Lorenzo
19. Everyone's at it - Ill Phil & Lorenzo
20. I can say (Sleepin is cheatin remix) - Francois ft. Louis Benton
21. Over love (Rewbs & Lorenzo mix) - Jenny Jones
22. Dimensions - Cause & Affect
23. Mistakes - Cause & Affect
24. Summertime Madness - Ill Phil & Lorenzo
25. Bird Flu - Cause & Affect
26. Weekend Offender (Francois & Chris Lawrence original mix) - Louis Benton

Had we simply not noticed that "Rhymes" has a crossover-ready video clip and everything?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlwvWRcPVTw

#13 in the national charts six weeks ago dear boy

i probably never mentioned it from chagrin for having eyerolled at tracer lumping them in with the duke dumont thread so many times :P

presuming hw&cl had nothing to do with its making it's a p delightful intuitive happenstance that that video should use all that retro tv footage and stuff, summoning as it does all the old creepy twilight zone sampladelic grizzle numbers (plus a nice extra dash of ballardian kink)

https://soundcloud.com/formularecordsuk/hybrid-theory-octopus-free-download

speaking of which, BOOOOO BITERS BOOOOO

Shift K3Y - Touch (Chris Lorenzo Remix)
J. Phlip, Chris Lorenzo, High Priestess - Walls
J. Phlip, Chris Lorenzo- Lights
Keys N Krates - Understand Why (Chris Lorenzo Remix)
My Nu Leng - You've Been Gone (Chris Lorenzo Remix)

i still like to put on a playlist of all these occasionally (plus the cause & affect remixes of pantero666, ray foxx and grades too), they really are quite amazing... if the earlier stuff was stygian then this crop last year was like being cast into tartarus

idk i hope loz tries his hand at soundtracks or something someday, the claustrophic ~sound design~ is so outrageously good, always making me draw for the greek mythology analogies obv, low scrapes of chains along catacomb corridors, distant guttural roars and howling shrieks and hot furious breath of terrible pitiless deities #dancemusic

otm

best #dancemusic producer of the decade so far, no contest

the other thing that emphasizes best producer in a studio engineer sense (rather than best ex nihilo artist as such) is the fact that though he is so dominant he is also genuinely collaborative too, or at least works at his best bouncing off other people... like after the vice article you started seeing all these crass dickhead aspersions flying around about hannah wants' role in their stuff together, which is super dumb cos a hannah wants & lorenzo track is plainly distinct from any pete graham & lorenzo, from any donkie punch & lorenzo, from any c&a, etc. (i mean the bdot ones are literally probably him leaving loz 4am voicemails like "mate, mate... tina arena" but even still that's what had to happen to for those tracks to ever exist). and the same applies to his remixes too the way they feed off something in the original that isn't always component

this is a point that benny's comps have already underlined a thousand times obv

dont forget we've got the skrillex collab to look forward to this year!

(i mean the bdot ones are literally probably him leaving loz 4am voicemails like "mate, mate... tina arena" but even still that's what had to happen to for those tracks to ever exist)

Can totally imagine receiving this voicemail at 4am.

I want to make a whole Geelong mixtape built around "Chains" and "Don't Call Me Baby".

https://soundcloud.com/shift-key/name-number-cause-affect-remix

http://i.imgur.com/xI75iwh.gif

What is it about Shift K3y's bouncy, ultra sweet house pop that makes Lorenzo think of Josef Fritzl's basement?

possibly he sees shifty's cruel face, that makes all his videos a lie

or perhaps he knows even the lightest romance will always carry an edge

Last in the series, 90 min special!

LORENZO MIX VOLUME 10

https://www.mixcloud.com/bennybrassic/lorenzo-mix-volume-10/

1. Lighthouse (Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo RMX) - IYES
2. Everything I need - Pete Graham & Chris Lorenzo
3. Many girls - Tom Garnett & Chris Lorenzo
4. Crocodile tears (Cause & Affect remix) - GRADES
5. Name and number (Cause & Affect remix)- Shift K3y
6. 1 Bad bitch (Cause & Affect remix) - Ten Ven & Ripley X Zebra Katz
7. Understand why (Chris Lorenzo remix) - Keys N Krates
8. Hooch - Lorenzo x Kelis
9. Let's go (Cause & Affect Hazey remix) - I Killed Kenny ft. Jamie George
10. Show me (Cause & Affect remix) - Zinc & Sneaky Sound System
11. Up to no good - Ill Phil & Lorenzo
12. Faces - Sleepin is Cheatin
13. Feel the power of bass - Ill Phil & Lorenzo
14. Can't get enough - Twisted Grooves
15. Pushy pushy - Cause & Affect
16. Outlines (Chris Lorenzo remix) - Mike Mago & Dragonette
17. It's getting hectic - Ill Phil & Lorenzo ft. MC Sim
18. What you gunna do - Ill Phil & Lorenzo ft. MC Sim
19. Wicked games (Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo remix) - The weeknd
20. Wicked games - Chris Lake & Chris Lorenzo
21. You've got the love (VIP Rmx) - Ill Phil & Lorenzo
22. I still love you - Hannah Wants & Lorenzo
23. Space Cowboy - Chris Lorenzo & The House Monkeyz
24. $pend my money (Refix) - De Contrebande VS Lorenzo
25. Lights on - Cold Cuts & Lorenzo
26. All this love (Francois & Chris Lawrence remix) - Thomas Graham ft. Katie May
27. Don't Speak (Ill Phil & Lorenzo remix) - No Doubt

https://www.sendspace.com/file/rlrdlg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOLtYam3MP8

big

free download here: https://soundcloud.com/chris-lorenzo-1/scarecrow

sleaze tempo jackin?

https://soundcloud.com/mixmag-1/premiere-chris-lake-chris-lorenzo-the-calling

wtf, tom zanetti - darlin' is bbc R1 track of the day! (a good two years after og release) Is this a potential number 1? i could just about believe it if it wasn't gonna be swallowed up in the xmas period.

WAIT! they've only gone and edited out all the sex sounds in the new video! pure savagery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlohKSXS_9E

ha yeah this has been floating around for so long in such a low-key popular way that i thought it slightly odd but nothing notable to hear it more often recently

released on target and danny weed's label!

yum yum btw

Tom Shorterz ‏@Shorterz Dec 2
SO my @RinseFM Xmas show is looking like this 2 hours of SPEED GARAGE w/ @Lorenzosbeats & @jeremysylvester = FIREEEE !!!!

nice one, the last couple of speed garage specials they did were HUGE. and j sylvester's speed garage tracks under his G.O.D. alias are some of the finest records ever made imo, got my bass bins quivering in anticipation already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAv3LrsJ0gI

that is the best speed garage tune ever made and js gets extra props for making one of the finest 2step tunes ever too (strickly dubz 'realise' obv)

i just walked past chris lorenzo

he's a tall man

I hope "darlin" does well so Q can revive all his "deep down inside"'/ "inside of me!" blends.

looks like cause & affect is just kane now judging from the soundcloud. hope loz didnt BOTTLE it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD8iFUrt1XY

enjoyed this this year. classic grizzlejackin drollery: pony + clubland = do it like they do on the discovery channel

[sudden premonition of tom zanetti on iacgmooh]

from stampede.. to the herd

https://soundcloud.com/thisaintbristol/cause-affect-the-herd-original-mix

https://soundcloud.com/illphil-productions/ill-phil-thm-lorenzo-babycop-2016-reboot

bask in the og vintage jackin perfection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNyiKYqKsH8

set me off on a reminisce... never realised this formative set's been lying around on youtube all this time since like a week after transmission

tlist attempt here! SUMMER JAMS 2012

lol damn we FLAMED that thread though B)

don't know why it's labelled as a 2016 reboot since afaict it's identical to the version that first came out a few years ago but whatever, "Babycop" is classic whack-on-a-few-random-acapellas-lying-on-the-desktop jackin, been also enjoying this surprise 2016 addition to that particular canon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJpLbq_2fho

tlist attempt here! SUMMER JAMS 2012

?? teddy riley ft tammy lucas - is it good to you

couldn't find any official confirmation but according to dodgy russian sites this one's Cause & Affect - Makin Love

ooh yeah that is alright. been meaning to have a think about 3000 bass, turning into a unexpectedly decent post-everything locus thing (see paleface now has some good bits on there)

"classic whack-on-a-few-random-acapellas-lying-on-the-desktop jackin" is true indeed but as we all know classic jackin also means anything-but-lazy casual savant genius production masterclass, which this is. even itself being called 'babycop' tbh! 1+1 to reference a third, ladycop, son of

i'm sure we could easily fill out the ids for all of that set now. was uncharted territory at the time!

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/you-want-me-feat.-sadie-ama/id1149940210

Genres: Dance, Music
Released: 16 September 2016
℗ 2016 Sony Music Entertainment UK Limited

tune unchanged. lifespan this long, javier zanetti more like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve9zVhekKX8

not saying there's actually a wave on but i do love me this tune this year

linkoban remix vibes, no wonder shorterz plays it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrnUnoEpO7U

this is...in the charts now???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_OIkuwEGtg

oh many xps, rtc was on this in sep

[sudden premonition of tom zanetti on iacgmooh]

― r|t|c, Saturday, 19 December 2015 10:46 Bookmark

give it a couple years. tross mi daddi

holding a month at ~25 in the charts now

back in sept (and with 'darlin' before) i couldnt see what target & danny weed saw in rereleasing, i mean the tune remains forever a marvel but the context seemed long gone. i know better now - it was always a hidden jackin nation, never just yorks and mids - look at that towie/geordie shore video. over the last few months i've become addicted to this:

Real England

which blends a certain strain of current top 40 (analogous to kiss fresh daytime) with pure distilled wite flite banter, geezers all called dean raised on big chunky sugary sweet tooth pop garage breakbeat and 2step. this is a proper regulated fm dial station that plays richie dan 'call it fate', deetah 'relax (b&f mix)', blowfelt 'back up back up' at 2 in the afternoon

(it is also producing nothing whatsoever in terms of interesting new music but just anthropologically it's a rush)

just realised last night that lorenzo has an album out now. it is good

https://www.beatport.com/release/destroy-the-image/1881828

1. Intro
2. We Are feat. Sam Nicolosi & Chris Lake
3. Afterparty feat. Sonny Fodera
4. Purple Toe feat. DJ Zinc
5. Come Down
6. Sleep Talk feat. Alex Mills
7. Promised Land
8. Spliff Break
9. I Wanna Be (Instrumental)
10. Bad Bitch
11. Enemys
12. Off
13. Get Enough
14. Together

Oh nice. Will check this out.

https://soundcloud.com/chris-lorenzo-1/rinse-fm-chris-lorenzo-guest-mix-ft-mc-psg-and-creed-w-marcus-nastys-23rd-november-2016

it is good

― Benny B, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 10:20 Bookmark

it is not good come on m8

apart from maybe b-grade grizzle 'come down' u will never want to hear any of it again

well my first listen was last night when I bunged all the tracks into vdj, notched up the tempo and mixed through them, so that probably helped. i generally don't listen to these sort of things as albums anyway, just collections of tracks to dj with. the only one i actively disliked was 'we are', 'sleep talk' seemed like a highlight.

faint praise I know...

it's a house album, of course it's completely inessential

https://soundcloud.com/skippit/skippit-the-art-of-digging

mad ting or wot. d double and steinski!!!!!

skippit is a mosh-bass-grime etc producer from southampton who i might have characterised as a delinquent younger sibling to royal-t - iirc he came to brief prominence late '14 with a whirring monster re-edit of flava d's 'in the dance' and for the most part has carried on in that marginal bootleg vein since

dj shadow interview samples and dusty breaks are the super extreme outlier obv but it's interesting to think of og jackin's morbidly amused chuck-it-in magpie restlessness resurfacing in whatever this current yoof scene is

https://bossmischief.bandcamp.com/album/refix-champion

cf like this guy and his nutty edits too

https://bossmischief.bandcamp.com/track/madonna-madness-bonus-track

tc4 unforgettably flinging this one into their i-d mix last year

https://soundcloud.com/chris-lorenzo-1/chris-lorenzo-kiss-fresh-guest-mix-july-2018

This was good too.
https://soundcloud.com/chris-lorenzo-1/ghost-dub-ft-polina

Only the most tenuous ring-filtery connection to jackin tho really.

get on that socially isolated floor and shake your tailfeather to this one, super good stuff

https://www.mixcloud.com/DutchRobinson/collective-housing-04-collaborative-mix-w-rick-van-der-voorn/

nice

just as an NB jclc, the 'jacking house' in that mix is the old-school chicago-style definition. this thread is about the birmingham, UK centred style of housey bass-driven garage with big nasty ring-filter sounds on the bassline

one of those extremely confusing bits of nomenclature, like the two quite different genres 'afrobeat' and 'afrobeats'

I regret posting US jacking house to the UK jacking house thread! still, a great mix

it is!! no apologies NO SORRY ALLOWED ON THIS BOARD DAMMIT

reminds me of some good nights at frank's lounge in brooklyn

is birmingham jacking house related at all to birmingham techno (surgeon regis etc) or are we talking just completely different eras / scenes?

https://on.soundcloud.com/PPEg8iFRXpZzuqyr9

Kitone & Kapunzen - “Jack”