You Make Polling Fun: FLEETWOOD MAC POLL RESULTS, ILM Artist Poll #22

AKA: "Then Poll On"... "Poll'n House"... "Polled Me"...

Thanks to all who participated! We had 42 ballots in total, which I think is a pretty strong turnout. I'll be unveiling our top ten albums this evening, and our top 60 songs beginning tomorrow morning (20 songs per day through Thursday)... I'd like to give a hearty thank-you and shout-out to JessFlip, who helped me a great deal in tabulating, double-checking, and entering the slew of ballots. Fleetwood Mac has seldom left the turntable in this house for the past several weeks--as it should be, I suppose...

http://www.lacanvas.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/fmac-1969.jpeg

The lead-up thread can be found here: http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=92893#unread

FYI, album rankings were tablulated according to the following formula: 1st:10pts, 2:8, 3:6, 4:5, 5:3. I thought it echoed the structure of the tracks formula elegantly in that the number of points for the top placement was 3.33 times the number of points for the bottom placement. And we managed to avoid ties this way as well, thankfully... So without futher ado...

10th Place: Say You Will (2003) - 12 points, 3 votes, 0 number one votes

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Fleetwood_Mac_-_Say_You_Will.jpg

Their first record without Christine McVie-penned songs since Kiln House in 1970!

It's too long, Christine is badly missed, and the production is way too harsh ... but I like it

I like imagining that the cover is them feeling really deflated and bummed-out realizing how much they've lost without Christine's presence...

I did mean to come back and do albums btw, I just never bothered. Sorry Clarke.

I would've voted for this most likely.

The Say You Will cover looks like the re-creation of the end of a groovy orgy they had in Van Nuys back in '76.

9th Place: Future Games (1971) - 26 points, 5 votes, 0 number one votes

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/Fleetwood_Mac_-_Future_Games.jpg

Christine's first record as a member, and a really lovely, enveloping record... I now feel bad for having cut it at the last second!

Is anyone a huge Kirwan stan?

say you will too low.

can't really complain tho as i forgot about the album ballot.

8th Place: Then Play On (1969) - 28 points, 4 votes, 0 number one votes

http://www.alistairsdream.co.uk/mainalbum/18%20Alistairs%20Music/MUSIC%20ON%20VINYL/F/slides/FLEETWOOD%20MAC%20-%201969,%20THEN%20PLAY%20ON.jpg

Over the course of quite a few years picking off more and more of my mom's old LP collection during trips back to Virginia, I probably flipped and skipped this one 50 times before actually bothering to open up the gatefold and look to see what it was. By the time I did that, I knew about Peter Green and knew the LPs were somewhat hard to come by... You can imagine my delight, especially considering how anally clean and perfect my mom kept her records.

Future Games made my albums list when I realized that a couple of my tracks ballot (and a couple of late cuts) were on it.

Is anyone a huge Kirwan stan?

When I wrote out my ballot short list and put the songwriter's initials next to every song, I was surprised at the number of DKs.

There have been so many instances of me listening to an earlier record, being really struck by a song, and looking to see who wrote it only to reveal it was him.

The Say You Will cover looks like the re-creation of the end of a groovy orgy they had in Van Nuys back in '76.

the Say You Will cover always reminded me of this Rolling Stone cover from 1977:

http://por-img.cimcontent.net/api/assets/bin-200904/4ea67ef0cda9083fba8e48f823439bf9.jpg

I felt guilty about not including anything from the album on my ballot. I like the album but no individual song from it quit made my top 20. And yeah it's a really long album - would've been a double album in the vinyl era. It's longer than Tusk!

I did include at least one Future Games cut, and a couple from Then Play On.

Only one Kirwan song on my ballot, and I'm ashamed to admit it's not "Dragonfly" which i've been listening to repeatedly this weekend and it's getting under my skin

7th Place: Bare Trees (1972) - 31 points, 6 votes, 1 number one vote

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/Baretreescd.jpg

Kirwan's last record with the band, and one of their most beautiful covers IMHO. Our first of the lineup to receive a number one vote... It went gold in 1976, and can still easily be found in dollar bins across the world. (A great investment...)

My #3 pick. Side 2 of this album slays me.

The cover sleeve of the original vinyl (in the US anyway) has an interesting texture

went gold in 1976, and can still easily be found in dollar bins across the world. (A great investment...)

as I discovered last week

Do you guys realize Kirwan was only 22 when Bare Trees was recorded? Wow...

6th Place: Mystery To Me (1973) - 34 points, 7 votes, 0 number one votes

http://backtomono.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/fleetwood_mystf.jpg

(It must be seen in full gatefold to properly appreciate...)

McVie's bass playing does not suffer from being so exposed on "Bare Trees" and "Danny's Chant."

but Mick didn't look like that in 1973

awesome cover. this was my #4 out of 5.

I swear, man, their rhythm section... There's some funny stuff happening on that Jimi/Eddie thread regarding the word "underrated," but I really think Mick and John don't get enough props! Also, John McVie took that photo on the Bare Trees cover... I wonder what Instagram filter he used?

Side note: I was the only one to vote for Kiln House! The cover of which Christine drew... I didn't even include any songs from that record on my ballot, but the whole thing is just so much fun to listen to and so damn weird within their discography that I had to include it as my number 5.

5th Place: Mirage (1982) - 43 points, 10 votes, 0 number one votes

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e2/Fleetwood_Mac_-_Mirage.jpg

Didn't someone on the lead-up thread say that this was Lindsey Buckingham's least favorite Fleetwood Mac record? The cover art is intriguing... Is Christine seducing Lindsey? Or warning him?

yep -- the let's-consciously-make-a-Rumours-sequel.

which worked commercially: it remained #1 in America for five weeks and outsold Tusk.

it's great!

eyezatha world!

I ended up with three tracks from Mirage in my top 20 but I didn't put it on my albums ballot...

Christgau's take: "This is the safe follow-up Rumours wasn't, and I find myself alternately charmed by its craft and offended by its banality. After seven years, you'd think they'd weary of romantic tension-and-release. But despite the occasional I'm-scareds and can't-go-backs, you'd never know how much passion they've already put behind them--they write about infatuation and its aftermaths like twenty-year-olds. This is obviously a commercial advantage, and I wouldn't want to be immune to its truth. But pop music offers endless variations on that truth, and since only the most graceful are worth pondering I have to say that there isn't another "Hold Me" here. B+"

4th Place: Tango In the Night (1987) - 68 points, 13 votes, 2 number one votes

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Fleetwood_Mac_-_Tango_in_the_Night.jpg

Did you guys know this record started out as a solo project of Lindsey's?

What is kinda amusing about the "attempt to recreate Rumours" narrative (incl. from Lindsey himself) is how relatively little Mirage actually sounds like it. You'd think if they were trying so hard for that they wouldn't have included so many oddities and curios good ("Empire State", arguably even "Hold Me") and bad ("Oh Diane").

re: Christgau - "This is the safe follow-up Rumours wasn't" - more like, this is the safe follow-up to Rumours that Tusk wasn't

Love Tango but I don't think I ended up voting for it - oddly, the weaker tracks (i.e. mainly the two non-single stevie tracks) prevent me from embracing it as an album more than the weaker tracks on Mirage do, even though there's less of them.

in Buckingham's defense, when he says "attempt to recreate Rumours" he (and the band too) mean "We all played together."

God, those Stevie tracks are REALLY rough going, huh? The best song she does on the record ("Seven Wonders") wasn't even written by her.

No I think Christgau meant what he said: Rumours *wasn't* a safe follow-up to the self-titled album when that could have been expected. He's attempting to distinguish between safe commercial appeal and brave commercial appeal, I think.

He's kinda wrong in this case I think (Mirage is the weirder album of the two) but it's a neat distinction nonetheless.

the most aurally adventurous parts of Tusk and TITN are Buckingham stitch jobs.

Rumours def wasn't the safe followup to Fleetwood Mac, so xgau makes sense

xpost ha -- Tim!

x-post

I'm guessing nobody's feeling an insane amount of anticipation for what the top three records will be, haha... In what way was Rumours not a somewhat safe follow-up to the self-titled? I'm not trying to be dense; I've really just always seen those two records as companion pieces.

What depresses me about the non-"Seven Wonders" tracks on TITN is how many good songs Nicks had in storage (her stockpile goes back to the seventies).

I feel sort of bad for not having voted for "Family Man" or "Caroline"--two "lesser" TITN tracks that I think rule.

In what way was Rumours not a somewhat safe follow-up to the self-titled? I'm not trying to be dense; I've really just always seen those two records as companion pieces.

to my ears there's a sense in which the eponymous debut betrays its origins by sounding like a bunch of pop songs with generic I/you pronouns that coheres thanks to expert playing ("Rhiannon" def not though). I guess "Go Your Own Way" is a more urgent, structurally inventive take on "Blue Letter" and "Songbird" a more despairing "Warm Ways."

what I love most about the eponymous album is how the songs have an audible joy -- a bunch of people realizing that not only do they like each other, but they make SHIT HOT music together. That's how "Monday Morning" sounds; it LEAPS off the turntable.

Yes, exactly! I love the way the s/t feels. It's lesser songs are better than Rumours's lesser songs, I think, and I enjoy listening to it more (and do listen to it more frequently as well).

In any case, Rumours wasn't made with commercial appeal as a primary objective, which makes its massive popularity all the more ironic. Certainly demonstrates that sometimes the best way to sell a gazillion records is to just make music that reflects what you're feeling.

In what way was Rumours not a somewhat safe follow-up to the self-titled? I'm not trying to be dense; I've really just always seen those two records as companion pieces.

I have too, and yet, there's a definite feeling of yin/yang between those two as well. The first one was made when all the band members were getting along and there were two couples amongst them; the second was made by a tense band after everyone had broken up.

I'm trying to avoid biographical criticism though

3rd Place: Fleetwood Mac (1975) - 90 points, 16 votes, 0 number one votes

http://www.fotos.org/galeria/data/897/Fleetwood-Mac-Fleetwood-Mac-Del-1975-Delantera.jpg

I'm too lazy to look at the ballots right this second, but did anyone except for me put the s/t above Rumours? Alfred really nailed it above... Can you imagine being Mick and John, having been through so many lineup changes, bringing in these two young cute kids from California, and then starting to write and play shit like THIS? I can't imagine how exciting and electrifying that must have been...

I love the tiny spaceship on the cover of Tango.

wow zero #1 votes! This was once my favorite.

I knew which two albums would be the top two, but have no clue which will be #1. Most ppl would put Rumours there instinctively, but i know how much ILM loves Tusk

Sorry, that inane comment about the spaceship was me, not Clarke B. Apparently he was logged in on my computer. This sort of thing causes other problems in our lives too, like when my Spotify history says that I was listening to Darkthrone albums at 2 in the morning because he was using my computer to do so.

Clarke B.s...can't live with them, can't live without them.

Remember, they tied in this poll: Fleetwood Mac - best album (a poll)

2nd Place: Rumours (1977) - 154 points, 19 votes, 8 number one votes

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fb/FMacRumours.PNG

1st Place: Tusk (1979) - 155 points, 19 votes, 10 number one votes

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/Fleetwood_Mac_-_Tusk.jpg

ONE POINT SEPARATING THE TWO!

lool

i should have done an albums ballot, rumours would have been #1!

of course

ha. i foresee the upper reaches of the tracks being ridiculously close too.

that old poll has over a hundred votes and only one for the self-titled! poor fleetwood mac, always the bridesmaid.

despite the revisionism Rumours is still the better record

Only half of the submitters of ballots did the optional albums list; I should've made it mandatory!

Tusk showed up on my album ballot, yet I did not include one track from it on my track ballot. The songs are all good, but none of them individually give me chills like many of their others do. I guess it just makes more sense to me as a coherent...well, "coherent" is maybe not the word for this collection of Lindsay's various manias...as a solid listen rather than a source of individual songs.

I put Tusk in as my #5, but could've just as easily chosen 3 or 4 other albums (in fact I should've, because I think we all knew Tusk was either going to be #1 or #2 in these results).

whew, that's a relief. genuinely excited for this roll-out.

Same here! It's hard to wait until tomorrow morning (NYC time)... So, there was no love in the albums voting for Mr. Wonderful, Penguin, or Heroes Are Hard To Find (as far as studio recordings go). Isn't Penguin generally regarded as their worst record (of the '60s/'70s/'80s)? I own it but I honestly don't think I've played it more than twice.

I voted for a track from Penguin, but the album's only just ok.

I thought until the nineties Heroes Are Hard To Find was the worst (I haven't heard it).

I have that too and it's the same story--maybe played it twice... Nothing stuck.

lol I also voted for a track from that one. Opening tracks of each, actually.

Kiln House wuz robbed! I should've voted gosh darnit

Heroes > Penguin. Although I don't care much for the latter, I do kinda like "The Derelict" which is a real oddball of the Mac catalog, a rare Dave Walker song with a strong countrified flavor that sounds like nothing else they ever recorded.

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Dave Walker should have stuck around. Penguin was the best album the Mac ever put out...

Good morning! (Or afternoon... Or, if you're in Australia--God knows.) Last night was the second night out of the past three nights I've had a Fleetwood Mac-related dream. The top 60 rollout will begin in about half an hour or so...

You're not going to tell us what it was?

Ha, well, it was fairly pedestrian... I was holding down a job in a fast-food restaurant that was inexplicably linked to a record store by way of a short hallway. For some reason, I was sitting down at a desk while assembling sandwiches, but because I was a beginner I wasn't working very quickly and I was feeling frustrated. Boredom overcame me and I ducked over to the record store. I remember seeing Point of Entry by Judas Priest, and several Smashing Pumpkins records that don't actually exist (I wish I remembered the titles). But there was also a treasure trove of old Fleetwood Mac 45s in a section called "ROCKPILE"... Before I could browse heavily or buy anything, though, I felt a nagging sense of duty and slinked back to my desk to make sandwiches.

hahaha what a great dream

I was hoping it involved being chased by that penguin...

Ha, there's always tonight! Well, let's go ahead and start things off:

#60: "Sands of Time" (Danny Kirwan, 1971)

http://static-l3.blogcritics.org/11/01/18/151809/Kirwan-1.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/gByiKYa72HU

Tell me that spidery intro isn't a happier, more well adjusted cousin of the main riff in "Poptones" by Public Image Ltd...

Ah, and this time with the vital stats:

#60: "Sands of Time" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 57 points, 3 votes

Good start!

wow unexpected Future Games tracks right off the bat!

#59: "Dragonfly" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 62 points, 3 votes

http://www.7inchrecords.com/Discography/FleetwoodMac/SdragonflyDU.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/gS8haFRboRY

The guitar work in this song is indescribable...

My last move on my tracks ballot was to cut a song (Nicks iirc) and re-add "Sands of Time."

From Wikipedia:

"Kirwan's former bandmate Peter Green said of "Dragonfly": 'The best thing he ever wrote... that should have been a hit.'"

You can definitely hear foreshadowing of "the Rumours sound" at 1:37 in "Sands of Time"...

I didnt vote for it but now I'm kind of hoping "Dust" makes it

I had it at #2, and thought for a long time about making it #1 (dust).

#58: "Blue Letter" (Richard & Michael Curtis, 1975) - 63 points, 4 votes

http://portland-news-daily.com/wp-content/plugins/RSSPoster_PRO/cache/72238_120621033237-rumours4-horizontal-gallery.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/H72BY1k9W_g

The story here goes that during the recording of the 1975 s/t, Fleetwood Mac were right next to Richard & Michael Curtis in the recording studio (Sound City Studios in Van Nuys, CA). They got to be friendly with each other and familiar with each other's material, and Lindsey took to this song in a big way.

^^^ love this. A pure pop direction that FM rarely pursued without fucking with arrangements.

My number 19! But man, this was a tight race for the top 20.

Different story here: http://www.allmusic.com/artist/the-curtis-brothers-mn0001239479

Interesting... I read that "studio neighbors" story on a fan site one time I believe. I'll try to find substantiating info on the web.

Here's the Curtis Brothers' version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mN9rHWAQVY

Really interesting the way Lindsey re-interpreted the bit after "I won't be..."

#57: "Warm Ways" (Christine McVie, 1975) - 70 points, 3 votes

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l95wkjYS2b1qbvg22o1_1280.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/EZ4i6H70_LY

Oof - Dragonfly I *just* voted for, Blue Letter I just didn't. Glad I got it that way round.

"Warm Ways" sounds exactly like the scenario therein: two lovers spooning after their first fuck.

dragonfly was my #2
sands of time my #6
Glad I had them so high so they squeaked in

my favorite McVie ballad too
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#56: "That's Enough For Me" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 70 points, 3 votes

(NB: There were only two ties in the top 60, and I broke them based on which song received a higher placement on somebody's ballot.)

http://www.coldsplinters.com/audio/Lindsey-Buckingham.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/3JMd9eE-xe0

Buckingham was so handsome.

To clarify: I broke ties *first* based on which song got more total votes, but in the case of the above, since they both got 70 points and 3 votes, I looked to see which was ranked higher on somebody's ballot...

At 1 minutes 48 seconds this HAS to be one of their shortest tracks ever, right?

I dig "That's Enough for Me," but it's pretty slight, imo, and not just in length. On the other hand, this seems about right -- it would probably crack my top 60.

#55: "Coming Your Way" (Danny Kirwan, 1969) - 71 points, 4 votes

http://caelumetterra.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/dannykirwan-petergreen-1.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/V7XCwC6WdJs

Incredible that these amazing songs are only picking up three votes

I love the way this song feels, and I especially love the drumming... What an amazing way to start an amazing record (Then Play On).

xpost - So true, Ismael, but it just makes you realize what an insane body of work this band put up over the years... And also how narrowing down to 20 is next to impossible.

Three Kirwan tracks in the first six songs rolled out was a surprise to me!

I sometimes wish that Kirwan had had his own David Gilmour (see Syd Barrett) to give us at least a couple of timeless solo albums. I realize that I've never heard "Trinity" by him, and wonder if it's any good...

How many other bands' catalogs can boast of a juxtaposition like the last song and this next song?

#54: "Seven Wonders" (Sandy Stewart, 1987) - 76 points 4 votes

http://www.afterelton.com/sites/www.afterelton.com/files/2012/05/Stevie-Nicks-Rigoletto.jpeg

Track link: http://youtu.be/CIaSUNYzRDI

^^^ I voted for the 12" remix!

I voted for it, too ;-)

Musically, "Seven Wonders" is so great. However, Stevie is so barely there and slurring words all over the place that it's hard for me to embrace like I do some of her others (I still voted for it, though, based on the track itself).

This is a very pro-Christine board, and I love it for that, but witchy Stevie is undeniable, too!

#53: "Sisters of the Moon" (Stevie Nicks, 1979) - 76 points, 4 votes

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30400000/Stephanie-Lynn-stevie-nicks-30458015-2219-2560.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/yQgiznVzh2Q (this is the single version, which I prefer)

that is my least fav track on tusk

Lindsey's solo toward the end is a scorcher.

I sneaked my twentieth place to Sisters, even though it's a little stupid, because I adore the production. The guitar solo at 3:42 is blistering too.

I love the menace that Mick and John convey, too.

Oh I always forget about "Sisters of the Moon", but it's a hot one, isn't it?

#52: "Show Me a Smile" (Christine McVie, 1971) - 87 points, 3 votes, 1 number one vote

http://www.fmlegacy.com/Graphics/CM%20Photos/Christine%20McVie%2003.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/j5fv_Xingso

Ironically, it's really difficult to find photos of Christine actually smiling!

Awesome! This was my #1.

Thank you two other voters. :)

Some fan I am. I didn't know "Blue Letter" and "Seven Wonders" were covers!

Going back quite a few posts, I always hear echoes of "Rhiannon" in "Sisters of the Moon". Someone said on one of the Tusk threads that it has a Zep quality to it. It would not sound out of place on Presence.

It's much more pleasant to listen to than Presence

The sweet sounds of Lindsey's mind beginning to unravel...

#51: "Not That Funny" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 87 points, 5 votes

http://totallywould.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/lindseybuckinghamtusklindsey.jpg?w=640

Track link: http://youtu.be/1Fi3NGwnE3c (live version with some amazing barking from L.B.)

Going back quite a few posts, I always hear echoes of "Rhiannon" in "Sisters of the Moon". Someone said on one of the Tusk threads that it has a Zep quality to it. It would not sound out of place on Presence.

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Good call... Both choruses rely on that root > minor 6 progression, but "Sisters" has more of a stomp to it.

To recap so far:

#60: "Sands of Time" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 57 points, 3 votes
#59: "Dragonfly" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 62 points, 3 votes
#58: "Blue Letter" (Richard & Michael Curtis, 1975) - 63 points, 4 votes
#57: "Warm Ways" (Christine McVie, 1975) - 70 points, 3 votes
#56: "That's Enough For Me" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 70 points, 3 votes
#55: "Coming Your Way" (Danny Kirwan, 1969) - 71 points, 4 votes
#54: "Seven Wonders" (Sandy Stewart, 1987) - 76 points 4 votes
#53: "Sisters of the Moon" (Stevie Nicks, 1979) - 76 points, 4 votes
#52: "Show Me a Smile" (Christine McVie, 1971) - 87 points, 3 votes, 1 number one vote
#51: "Not That Funny" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 87 points, 5 votes

TOP 50 BRING IT

Welcome to the top 50!

#50: "I'm So Afraid" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1975) - 90 points, 4 votes

http://www.mtvhive.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fleetwood-mac-1975-cr-fin-costello-640.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/t4deOtlzvL4

Too Low! (I should have voted)

I love this song, too, and I'm regretting not having included it. How many other Mac songs do you hear harmonized twin lead guitars in? (Which is one of my favorite things in the world, musical or non-.)

Thin Lindzzy

My no.3 in the end (I went in big on frazzled, paranoid Mac)

God, the full-neck harmonic stuff he does!

Rest in peace, Bob!

#49: "Keep On Going" (Bob Welch, 1973) - 96 points, 4 votes

http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Bob-Welch-Fleetwood-Mac-suicide.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/cHdM1Nh3mDA

Wow! "So Afraid" = shockingly low! My first to appear; I had no idea that Lindsey set a precedent for Gold Dust Woman.

^^^ One of the reasons I said upthread that I see the s/t and Rumours as companion pieces--the similarity in tone/structure of their closing songs... And I like the closing song of the s/t more ;-)

Yeah so do I

glad everyone else sees it

#48: "Spare Me a Little of Your Love" (Christine McVie, 1972) - 102 points, 4 votes

http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/pjpeg/4db1693d3aaacc9304e99a0124b84f77f74d2ffe.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/ToMLmNre2pU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vrNtkC6rU0

Does any more footage of this show exist? It must exist.

#48 and #49 are fine songs, but they feel a little slight in comparison with most of the others on the list so far...

#47: "Monday Morning" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1975) - 109 points, 5 votes

http://jackyso.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/fleetwood-mac.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/dwtKof6G5iw

That live "I'm So Afraid" is amazing, Ismael!

Mick Fleetwood killing it in that pic.

I love Lindsey's look of extreme skepticism... As if he has any room to talk given some of the fashions he's sported over the years.

And is John grabbing Stevie's ass or what?

wouldn't you?

Sure, but I'd look a bit happier about it than he does!

#46: "Book of Love" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1982) - 109 points, 5 votes

http://payload38.cargocollective.com/1/1/50219/3065253/photo-8.jpeg

Track link: http://youtu.be/pMTUPwJTRcI

deep track! Love those harmonies and Bucky's solo

I was amped to see it place like it did!

It's a track I feel like I only recently discovered / gave the time of day to... It was only when I found myself singing the chorus to myself almost constantly that I realized what a strong song it is.

#45: "Don't Stop" (Christine McVie, 1977) - 111 points, 6 votes

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zhvl9wIMEfc/T7W-Us6kPvI/AAAAAAAADfw/KP02D_KHtaY/s1600/ClintonArsenioHall.jpeg

Track link: http://youtu.be/Tm0nopK1BQM

Well I don't like this one

Neither do I! In fact, I considered doing what you did for the U2 poll and allowing everyone a "subtract 20 points" H-bomb... This would've been my target.

I don't necessarily hate this song, but I think I like it less every time I hear it.

I like this song, but it didn't make my twenty.

Book of Love is constantly in my head. I put it on my ballot based on that. Lindsey's mental illness is catchy.

Good image choice. I'm pretty sure it's Bill Clinton who ruined it for me.

"Don't Stop" certainly isn't the most imaginative or exciting of their songs, but come on, crankies. It's fine.

pretty sure Stevie's hat ruined it for me

Yeah, I can't remember if I already kinda hated "Don't Stop" before Clinton, or if that cinched it for me. Either way, it feels out of place on Rumors, too bouncy, too much a "Have a nice day" cartoon of '70s Cali good vibes. Also, since Lindsey's so prominent on it, it was years before I realized it was a Christine song.

that's partly why it works, no? Smiling through tears.

It totally has the slipping-into-vapidity major-key bouncy thing that Christine's songs at their least inspired have...

btw I kinda love the version on The Dance, especially when Mick loses it in the last fifteen seconds and bangs a gong.

"Yesterday's gone, YEEEESSSSSTTTEEEERRRRRDAAAAYYYY'S GAAAAAHHHHHNNNN!"

It's a great song for anyone else, but subpar for THE MAC

Interesting single here: A-side is McVie in self-caricature mode, B-side is Nicks in self-caricature mode...

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002290247/458662614_2587953_fleetwood_mac_dont_stop_answer_7_xlarge.jpeg

love that big moon

It's actually Mick's gong

Back to the old Mac...

#44: "Woman of 1000 Years" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 113 points, 6 votes

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/38358945/Danny+Kirwan.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/z-PVWrjAdQ0

It says "Suck it, Bonham!" on the back. xpst

Why not think about times to come,
And not about the things that you've done,
If your life was bad to you,
Just think what tomorrow will do.

could almost be an abba lyric

"Woman of 1000 Years" is so beautiful.

I feel like "Woman of 1000 Years" nails that ethereal vibe I think a lot of Stevie's songs are reaching for.

But like, without even trying.

Danny's etheral is a blissed-out transcendent ethereal, Stevie's is a darker more desperate ethereal... I don't think she does blissed-out very well!

I think maybe what I was getting at is that I wish Stevie did blissed-out well. :)

Christine does it though! Listen to "Warm Ways."

I think "Don't Stop" is just kind of treacly and simpleminded in sentiment and lyric, and was surprised to find myself thinking that about most of Christine's songs as I went through the catalogue. Coming into this poll, I would have ranked LB >> CM >> SN, but now I'd put Stevie ahead of Christine because her songs don't reduce down to swoony Moon-June-Spoon platitudes and cliches -- at least not as often. #stonetheheretic

No way is she as interesting a lyricist, let alone a personality, as Buck-Nicks, but she's such an attractive singer.

I'll give you that, yep.

I listened to the Christine Perfect album last night while I was drifting off to sleep. I think I'd heard it before then, but if so I didn't remember anything about it. Pretty plain, imo. Especially for something dubbed "The Legendary Christine Perfect Album".

all the live versions of "i'm so afraid" are blistering

i heard the version on the dance before i ever heard the album version and i'm kind of ruined

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OrtLxsqSic

Moreover, as the Normal Person among the songwriters she's the ideal foil.

Thing about Christine is she's been churning out high quality stuff like clockwork forever. I'm kind of amused that my highest ranked nu-Mac song did so poorly. It makes me think I was on to something....

Moreover, as the Normal Person among the songwriters she's the ideal foil.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:10 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's very true...

Yay "Woman of 1000 Years"! My 2nd track to make it!

Remember Stevie saying when Lindsey first told her he'd been asked to join FM, she went out and bought all the FM albums and listened to them in order, noting a ethereal-mystical thread that ran through them that appealed to her. There's no question in my mind that this song was one of the ones that appealed to her.

(not why I voted for it, of course--it's just achingy pretty. Future Games, as an album, has a really sweet Zep III/Zoso vibe to it. Except with more appealing vocals.)

After my son was born I walked home from hospital at three in the morning and ramped up I'm So Afraid on repeat for about an hour. I don't think it was a comment on my mental state or anything, it's just an epic jam.

Also, I would never include "Don't Stop" in my 20 favorite FM tracks but I don't hate it by any means. I think its place in Rumours gives it depth, makes it sound more desperate than it otherwise would: I don't hear it as "smiling thru tears" so much as "clutching for dear life on the hope of tomorrow to get us thru this pit of tumult and despair"

can we go back to discussing how awesome Buckingham's arrangement for "Seven Wonders" is?

Danny K. straight-up killin' it!

#43: "Dust" (Danny Kirwan, 1972) - 114 points, 4 votes, 2 number one votes

http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/97/dc/fleetwood,mac-97dc38158d6f75d3026e638ec49e1b37_h.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/f2ncrkgeM0g

I discovered "Dust" last week.

So did I! It's great!

Future Games, as an album, has a really sweet Zep III/Zoso vibe to it.

I have to think CSN had an impact, too. "Future Games" the song sounds quite a bit like "Wooden Ships" to my ear.

It's a little intense to think of Kirwan writing Dust when he's like 22 years old. That's his last track on a Mac album, right?

He took the lyrics from a Rupert Brooke poem, but yeah, that's such a surprising and beautiful melody.

#42: "Crystal" (Stevie Nicks, 1975) - 117 points, 6 votes

http://blackjacketsymphony.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/fleetwood2.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/ypKuvQLq9rc

Originally recorded, of course, for the awesome Buckingham/Nicks LP from 1973.

I wish "Crystal" had been higher. I prefer the original recording but both versions tap into something...makes me cry every time.

Speaking of crying, I was reading last week how upset Stevie was during that photo shoot at LB and the photographer getting her out of her shirt.

It's a great song for anyone else, but subpar for THE MAC

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:48 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've always felt that if "don't stop" was a lite thin lizzy song, i'd be fine with it. but it's so out of place on rumours. i've been warming up to it tho

Speaking of crying, I was reading last week how upset Stevie was during that photo shoot at LB and the photographer getting her out of her shirt.

Didn't she spend their food money for the week on the blouse she wanted to wear for the shoot?

i've always felt that if "don't stop" was a lite thin lizzy song

My mind just came dangerously close to exploding

It's still shocking to me that Buckingham/Nicks has never been released on CD.

Everything I've ever read about it not being on cd has to do with Buckingham being a perfectionist and blocking its release until he can tinker with the mix a lot.

(and he's not in a hurry to do so)

He's waiting for Neil Young to reissue Time Fades Away.

Last one for today...

"Sentimental Lady" (Bob Welch, 1972): 123 points, 5 votes

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/29752967/Bob+Welch.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/HvCUJgnVg3o

Whoops... With ranking:

#41: "Sentimental Lady" (Bob Welch, 1972): 123 points, 5 votes

This is as good a time as any to point out that Mick Fleetwood's autobio is MANDATORY READING. So fucking good.

To recap so far:

#60: "Sands of Time" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 57 points, 3 votes
#59: "Dragonfly" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 62 points, 3 votes
#58: "Blue Letter" (Richard & Michael Curtis, 1975) - 63 points, 4 votes
#57: "Warm Ways" (Christine McVie, 1975) - 70 points, 3 votes
#56: "That's Enough For Me" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 70 points, 3 votes
#55: "Coming Your Way" (Danny Kirwan, 1969) - 71 points, 4 votes
#54: "Seven Wonders" (Sandy Stewart, 1987) - 76 points, 4 votes
#53: "Sisters of the Moon" (Stevie Nicks, 1979) - 76 points, 4 votes
#52: "Show Me a Smile" (Christine McVie, 1971) - 87 points, 3 votes, 1 number one vote
#51: "Not That Funny" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 87 points, 5 votes
#50: "I'm So Afraid" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1975) - 90 points, 4 votes
#49: "Keep On Going" (Bob Welch, 1973) - 96 points, 4 votes
#48: "Spare Me a Little of Your Love" (Christine McVie, 1972) - 102 points, 4 votes
#47: "Monday Morning" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1975) - 109 points, 5 votes
#46: "Book of Love" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1982) - 109 points, 5 votes
#45: "Don't Stop" (Christine McVie, 1977) - 111 points, 6 votes
#44: "Woman of 1000 Years" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 113 points, 6 votes
#43: "Dust" (Danny Kirwan, 1972) - 114 points, 4 votes, 2 number one votes
#42: "Crystal" (Stevie Nicks, 1975) - 117 points, 6 votes
#41: "Sentimental Lady" (Bob Welch, 1972): 123 points, 5 votes

This is as good a time as any to point out that Mick Fleetwood's autobio is MANDATORY READING. So fucking good.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really good to know...

well after my last min bumping of sisters... i have a grand total of zero so far. suppose that's not really surprising as i didn't vote for anything pre-rumours. feel like i should prob check some of this danny kirwan dude out tho.

Good lord, that Mac version of Sentimental Lady is a rhythm section WORKOUT. Deserves to be higher.

Bottom 20:

Kirwan: 5
C. McVie: 4
Welch: 2
Buckingham: 5
Nicks: 2
Other: 2

That actually seems about right, except for Green...

Go Kirwain!

what has danny kirwan been up to for the past 35 years anyhow?

mental problems, alcoholism, homelessness

Pretty much the same thing Syd Barrett was up to until he died, though maybe not quite as nice...

:-(

If you're going to go nuts in a Hall Of Fame band, make sure it's Pink Floyd and not Fleetwood Mac...

This is as good a time as any to point out that Mick Fleetwood's autobio is MANDATORY READING. So fucking good.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really good to know...

― Clarke B., Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:28 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I started reading this last year, and he's been sitting there, staring at me with his big crazy eyes, waiting for me to get around to finishing ever since. This poll has been nagging me towards picking it up again. He had just met John McVie when I stopped reading, though, so I'm yet to get to the interesting stuff (early chapters of bios are always a chore for me). The poem his dad wrote about him is worth reading, though.

w.r.t. "Sentimental Lady":

This song appears in the movie Grown Ups, and Maya Rudolph describes this as the "whitest song ever".[citation needed]

I read it either when I was still in high school or shortly thereafter, so...about 20 years ago. I just bought a copy on ebay to read it again.

voted for both 'spare me a little of your love' (my #4) and 'blue letter' (my #12) out of todays jamz

going to make a p sweet playlist i think

i freaking love spare me a little. would made my top 5 and it coulda/shoulda been a smash

So sad about Kirwan... From Wikipedia: 'Kirwan shouldered much of the songwriting responsibility during this troubled and uncertain period for the band, through the changes in both the line-up and in musical style. The pressure showed in his health and he suffered problems with alcoholism; stories abound of Kirwan not eating for several days at a time, subsisting largely on beer. He gradually became estranged from the other band members, and things came to a head during the autumn of 1972. Before a concert on that year's US tour, Kirwan and Welch rowed over tuning and Kirwan flew into a rage, smashing his guitar and refusing to go onstage. Instead he watched while the rest of the band struggled through without him, and offered unwelcome criticism afterwards. Kirwan had to be sacked by Fleetwood, who had hitherto been the only other member still speaking to him. Fleetwood later said: "It was a torment for him, really, to be up there, and it reduced him to someone who you just looked at and thought 'My God'. It was more a thing of, although he was asked to leave, the way I was looking at it was, I hoped, it was almost putting him out of his agony."'

This is as good a time as any to point out that Mick Fleetwood's autobio is MANDATORY READING. So fucking good. - i've heard otherwise!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6IXCBWlh4c

It's a pretty good work of fiction.

i enjoyed mick's book quite a lot, but then i am equally excited about reading ken caillat's book too

yeah! that's on my list. has anyone here read it?

I read a good chunk at a bookstore a few weeks ago: good stories about Buck at the mixing desk.

Speaking of Buck at the mixing desk, this clip is amusing to me because I didn't really expect Lindsey to sound so dweeby. Tho it helped make sense of a lot of things, really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TElW2xIEfFI

Also makes me sad that Mark Ruffalo is already too old to play Lindsey in a should-have-been HBO docudrama about the making of Rumors.

The Caillat book is quite good.
The impression is of a really odd bunch of ppl, working quite hard, and getting to grips with increasing success.

Lindsey, in particular, seems a piece of work.

Also makes me sad that Mark Ruffalo is already too old to play Lindsey in a should-have-been HBO docudrama about the making of Rumors.

OMG

Y'all ready for this?

COMMENCE TOP 40...

#40: "I Don't Want to Know" (Nicks, 1977)

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/spinal-tap-fleetwood-mac-431x300.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/Og7msZ0wuZ8

Let me complete that thought... (I'm still undercaffeinated.)

#40: "I Don't Want to Know" (Nicks, 1977) - 124 points, 6 votes

God, Mick is the freakiest looking fucker!

apparently these guys didn't believe in bathing more than once a week

xp: although Christine is giving him a run for his money in this pic. wow.

"I Don't Want to Know" sounds like it could have come straight off of Buckingham/Nicks (except for the superior rhythm section)...

Found this
interview with Danny Kirwan from 1997.

The interviewer had this to say in 2000:

Good news: I met Danny's ex-wife Clare recently who kindly helped me with liner notes for a Kirwan compilation called 'Ram Jam City' which Mooncrest recently released. Danny turned 50 this May and Clare showed me photos taken of him on his birthday.
I was really pleased to notice him looking a lot fitter than was the case five years ago when I interviewed him. His hair is now short and he looks stronger and more together. Best news of all, perhaps, is that he keeps a guitar in his room and plays quite often for his own pleasure.

He remains a very private person who keeps himself to himself and is nicely settled in the care centre where he's been for some time now.

I know that some of his many well-wishers took to the idea of Danny possibly moving to Eric Clapton's Crossroads centre in Antigua for treatment: whilst this may be a poignant notion as a modern story of the blues, in reality his family feel that he is far better off staying where he is. Obviously they know what's best and isn't it great to know that music still is there in Danny's day-to-day life.

Is that the lowest Rumours cut?

'Don' t Stop appeared earlier.

#39: "Songbird" (McVie, 1977) - 133 points, 8 votes

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/30542393/Christine+McVie.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/C_JdKJQPS9I

How did Christine keep her voice so luscious and pure when it seems that every pic I find of her online includes a cig?

Also, this is one of my least favorite Mac songs... This is the kind of song I immediately think of when I read this quote from yesterday:

I think "Don't Stop" is just kind of treacly and simpleminded in sentiment and lyric, and was surprised to find myself thinking that about most of Christine's songs as I went through the catalogue. Coming into this poll, I would have ranked LB >> CM >> SN, but now I'd put Stevie ahead of Christine because her songs don't reduce down to swoony Moon-June-Spoon platitudes and cliches -- at least not as often. #stonetheheretic

― Neil Jung (WmC), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, that's one of the songs I had in mind when I wrote that.

The "like they know the score" line has always induced mega-cringe with me.

Seriously? I love that line. Songbird didn't quite make my top ten, but I really like this mode that Christine goes into. Songs like this and Warm Ways really glow.

I've been trying to figure out why I like some of Christine's songs and dislike others that are ostensibly similar in tone... "Glow" is a good word. I think "Warm Ways" does really glow, but "Songbird" feels turgid to me. I'm not a big piano fan in general (in rock music, at least), so that's probably a stumbling block.

I love Songbird; that was a def a late cut from my ballot.

Don't Stop is the only song that wd give me momentary pause before declaring the first side of Rumours flawless

"Songbird" accrues more significance as you age, I think, which is why I prefer her performance on The Dance. Her voice huskier and sadder, it makes lines like "I wish you all the love in the world" that much more rueful.

Don't Stop is the only song that wd give me momentary pause before declaring the first side of Rumours flawless

― seapluspluspunk (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:10 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

See, the drag accrued by DS and SB is what notches Rumours below the s/t in my ranking...

"I wish you all the love in the world/but most of all I wish it from myself" I think is another great line in this son.

song

#38: "Honey Hi" (Christine McVie, 1979) - 143 points, 7 votes

http://img1.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/6/b/6bbdhc2p9j8cb6dj.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/LBJNkauHcpI

That is a good line there, how's life.

^^ one of Tusk's few duds imo

"Honey Hi" is a gem, and I love it. I love how all the instruments just sound like they're pulling each other along lazily, bouncing off each other, while the amazing harmonies float over top of it all. Thinking about it more, I think Christine's voice is poorly matched with a piano because it's too similar in "perfection", mellifluosness, even timbre, so in a song like "Songbird" it becomes smooth overload, whereas in "Honey Hi" it can really shine as a counterpoint to what else is going on in the song. This is kind of a revelation for me, that I like Christine's really sparse stuff. (See also "Brown Eyes"...)

that's a good explanation

That makes sense. This is the first song to crack my top 10 (at #9)

A little Christine Tusk double-dose!

#37: "Never Forget" (Christine McVie, 1979) - 145 points, 8 votes

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oOUSmnU7nbQ/TS0LPgMLSQI/AAAAAAAAA_4/aulk6hIwQco/s1600/tumblr_l2j0edfpem1qbvg22o1_500.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/q2p6OnSTN28

^^^ this one took years to sink its claws into me. Hot Chip are particular fans.

Um, that was my #6. I hope not to see to many more of mine today!

I like the way it closes Tusk after the bizarre carnival of the title track... I've always loved that that record is bookended by two amazing Christine songs.

Today feels like the Christine day in the same way that yesterday felt like the Kirwan day.

I'm keeping my mouth shut on that one... But this is a pretty big change of pace!

#36: "Man of the World" (Peter Green, 1969) - 155 points, 7 votes

http://www.kieran.keegan.btinternet.co.uk/Greeny/Greeny_pics/amsterdam_70.gif

Track link: http://youtu.be/_CT7mzrJunc

"He [Peter Green] has the sweetest tone I ever heard; he was the only one who gave me the cold sweats."--B.B. King

"Songbird" is not a very interesting song, it's true. But Christine's singing on it is so, so appealing, that I enjoy it anyway. Is there a song out there that Stevie wrote, but Christine sang? That would be a really cool thing to hear, since Christine is by far a better singer, but Stevie's songwriting has some teeth that Christine's don't. I would love to here her smoothness over something gritty.

Better singer in the Glee sense, not necessarily in the "feel" sense...

Songbird was on this killer mixtape that my cousin made for me that had Love and Rockets and The Verve and the first Big Star song I'd ever heard on it; usually inclusion on said mixtape is enough to make any poll ballot I draw up, but space was v v v limited, but I will still pledge fealty to that song forevermore

Is that PG's first entry? I can't recall whether he even has an album in our chart.

I really like the Honey Hi on the Tusk bonus disc - just Christine & Rhodes as I recall it

They Play On made the albums list. xp

Circling back to "I Don't Want to Know," I love the sustained harmony all the way through. I guess it's pretty slight, songwise, but it's a great bit of singing.

<3 peter green

And the Cut Copy remix of Never Forget takes flight nicely.

Isamel, Then Play On was 8th place in the albums ranking...

But yeah, this is the first Peter Green song to appear... Beautiful track.

I'd never even heard of "Man of the World" a week ago, but it leapt onto my ballot after the first listen.

There are three Peter Green songs that I expect to see higher, plus Brown Eyes, but that's it for him.

Ask and ye shall receive...

#35: "Black Magic Woman" (Peter Green, 1968) - 158 points, 8 votes

http://991.com/NewGallery/Fleetwood-Mac-English-Rose---Se-451586.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/6pT3OaV0g64

I love Songbird, and a sparsely arranged, melodically straightforward composition like that is a perfect interlude amidst the multi-tracked feast of popcraft ambrosia that is Rumours.

I agree with others though, that "Don't Stop" is the relative dud on the LP. I actually like the verse sections plenty; it's just the chorus that annoys me.

Exactly it. Say You Will shows what's missing when you take that out.

<i>the multi-tracked feast of popcraft ambrosia that is Rumours.</i>

Nice! Beautiful turn of phrase.

English Rose is the most horrifying album cover of all time.

Nah, it's funny.

I love it!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9PUi1S3XRPo/T8pRybwEfqI/AAAAAAAAAXo/PoH_zMKckNQ/s1600/583J.jpg

"Black Magic Woman" rules, though... Dig John's bass!

"Don't Stop": assumed when the poll was announced it would be a shoe-in for my ballot, but in the end I thought "nah"

"Songbird": used to think "nah" but it's grown on me a lot lately; in the end it was a late cut.

Does anyone agree btw that Rumours is not well sequenced? Don't Stop-->GYOW-->Songbird really doesn't work for me, perhaps because they could all be the Side 1 closer. Not that I have a better sequence in my head.

Ah, that should have been a side question to the poll: Sequence your own Rumours

lol

Haha... I do agree though that the above-mentioned trio doesn't quite click.

#34: "Beautiful Child" (Stevie Nicks, 1979) - 161 points, 8 votes

http://oystermag.com/sites/default/files/stevie_nicks_saucer_eyes.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/MDTTI2UVcMQ

Really miss her curls. When did those go? The 80s?

Yep... Same decade her voice went! (ducks)

I love this song. It takes a hell of a band, instrumentally speaking, to sustain that much tension and drive in a song this slow... (Is this their slowest song ever?) The way the harmonies build, interlock, then stagger is lovely. Lindsey's shading is some of the best guitar work on the record--so subtle, but so perfectly placed.

Really miss her curls. When did those go? The 80s?

she mistook them for coke and snorted them

Clarke is your numbering off at Black Magic Woman?

This one...man, it's way beyond the pale for me. I find it to be totally lugubrious. Could be my least favorite Mac track ever.

maybe rumours' song were deliberately in a jumbled order and 'go your own way' was actually a foretelling song of the times to be had with mp3s and cds where we could skip, burn and produce our own order of songs for albums.

Good catch, Spectrist, my bad... Should be:

#35: "Black Magic Woman" (Peter Green, 1968) - 158 points, 8 votes
#34: "Beautiful Child" (Stevie Nicks, 1979) - 161 points, 8 votes

I went a little nuts on my leftover wine samples yesterday evening.

If a mod feels like fixing it, that would be amazing

This one...man, it's way beyond the pale for me. I find it to be totally lugubrious. Could be my least favorite Mac track ever.

― JessFlip, Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:48 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Guess you haven't listened to "When I See You Again" lately...

So much prefer the Mac "Black Magic Woman" to the Santana one. Not that I mind Santana, but there's no tension in his, it's just groove.

Really miss her curls. When did those go? The 80s?

she mistook them for coke and snorted them

Haha, just said something similar about that god awful perm she had in the 80s: that maybe all the coke she did came out of the pores in her scalp and made her hair crazy.

http://festiva.themonitor.com/files/2011/06/stevie-nicks.jpg

#33: "The Green Manalishi (With the Two-Prong Crown)" (Peter Green, 1970) - 168 points, 7 votes, 1 number one vote

http://kenwilsonelt.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/fleetwoodmacpetergreens.jpg?w=500&h=374

Track link: http://youtu.be/kTvKaLW5bu8

Sidetrack for a second, if anyone cares to indulge me. I didn't vote because I know nothing about Fleetwood Mac that isn't contained on Rumours, Tusk, or Tango. I've been wanting to dive in, but the pre-Buckingham/Nicks stuff is tough to find and almost all the comps I see seem to pretend the band only came around in '75. Are there any good, more comprehensive comps out there?

Green has explained that he wrote the song after experiencing a drug-induced dream, in which he was visited by a green dog which barked at him. He understood that the dog represented money. "It scared me because I knew the dog had been dead a long time. It was a stray and I was looking after it. But I was dead and had to fight to get back into my body, which I eventually did. When I woke up, the room was really black and I found myself writing the song."[2] He also said that he wrote the lyrics the following day, in Richmond Park. Supposedly, he was unable to record Robert Johnson's 'Hellhound On My Trail' following the incident; having conflated Johnson's hellhound with the green dog-demon of his dream.--Wikipedia entry

There are comps for the Peter Green years, not the Bob Welch years. xp

As another aside, I found one of the rare never-released-on-CD Jeremy Spencer & The Children solo LPs the other day!

The Pious Bird of Good Omen is a pretty good one for the Peter Green years.

Green Manalishi is my no.1! Like I said on the other thread, I'm not even entirely sure that I *like* it, but it does what it does so brilliantly that I had to give it its due.

It's an amazing track... I first heard it via the famous Judas Priest cover version.

I was unaware of the Priest until this poll. Still haven't heard it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgnOJXIvu6s

jon/via/chi, you can get pretty much every Welch era CD used on amazon for less than 5 bucks. Vinyl even less. Can't say I've checked the used LP bins at my local shop lately, but most of them are (or at least used to be) pretty common ime.

Seconded re: getting Welch stuff cheap... It's well worth it. Future Games and Mystery to Me are great ones to start with. But definitely don't sleep on Kiln House either!

Thanks! Maybe I just need to keep checking those used vinyl bins.

I got Bare Trees a week ago for $3 on vinyl and probably overpaid.

Yeah, they'll pop up if you keep it in mind as a thing to do when browsing...

The only way to get a good full career retrospective would be to get the albums and roll your own, sorry to say. xposts

Speaking of which...

#32: "Future Games" (Bob Welch, 1971) - 168 points, 8 votes

http://www.neontommy.com/sites/default/files/Bob_Welch_and_Jimmy_Robinson_at_the_Record_Plant_in_Sausilito_CA.jpg?1339180319

Track link: http://youtu.be/HDqFLwTQrN4

Nice!

This track has such an undeniable Can't Buy a Thrill-era Steely Dan feel... Love it.

But definitely don't sleep on Kiln House either!

^^^ It's pretty much unlike any other album in their catalog. My most played Mac album these days by a longshot.

xpost I can see that...Bob Welch kinda sounds like David Palmer here...

#31: "I Know I'm Not Wrong" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 185 points, 8 votes, 1 number one vote

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/18294407/Lindsey+Buckingham+medallion.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/pyQpIVuaxs0

#36: "Man of the World" (Peter Green, 1969) - 155 points, 7 votes

love this song so much. should have been in the top 10–15.

oh and i know i'm not wrong should be higher too.

"I Know I'm Not Wrong" was one of my last cuts.

I love the Tusk bonus disc version of this one too

I've gone back and forth on Lindsey's Tusk songs. Right now I'm not that into most of them. I really love the little heroic solo at the end of this one though.

#30: "Over My Head" (Christine McVie, 1975) - 217 points, 11 votes

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/24094587/Christine+McVie+Christine+Perfect.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/R9hbEKR-qzA

Oh man, I don't remember where I placed this, but it's one of my absolute favorites. Those harmonics positively crackle. And I like the way that the chorus is just this side of booming. It feels like a pre-chorus really, but then it pulls back to the groove.

I looove this song, too; Lindsey certainly has a way with harmonics. It's such a little burbling brook of a song, almost literally refreshing, like cool mist in your face on a sweltering day. Lesser groups would turn that lilting groove into gravy, but John and Mick keep it tight. Amazing.

Either that or they would lean into it too much and make the song to "jammy" and swinging.

I was away and busy during yesterday's rollout and ealier today (waaaahh), so will lump my thoughts/responses to upthread comments together in a later post.

Thus far 8 of my picks have placed, including all three of the Bare Trees cuts (all from side 2!), along with "Warm Ways" and "Monday Morning". I was wondering when and where the Peter Green contingent would kick in after yesterday's results; "Man of the World" may be my favorite song he wrote, and I voted for it and "Black Magic Woman". "Future Games" rounds out my placing votes thus far.

I'm wishing I voted for more Peter Green tracks now myself... His was the stuff I was least familiar with when putting this thing together.

"Man of the World" really speaks to me

....except that i'm not as "worldly" as Peter ever was....

Is anyone playing "guess which songwriter will come next" during this countdown?

Billy Burnette?

I'm pleased so my of Kirwan's songs placed but don't expect any others. May be proved wrong tho.

my = many

Eddy Quintela

KNUCK IF YOU BUCK

#29: "Big Love" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1987) - 219 points, 11 votes

http://image.lyricspond.com/image/l/artist-lindsey-buckingham/album-out-of-the-cradle/cd-cover.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/C1rRA3UIseQ

Fuck! Right album though.

I wonder if those two post-TITN-pre-SYW albums got any votes at all

The song epitomised the stylised production techniques used on the album, with its provocative "oh - ahh" male/female vocal exchange. Though many assumed the female "ahh" to be Stevie Nicks, it was actually Lindsey Buckingham performing both, created by way of his voice being sampled and altered in the studio to mimic that of a woman.

wtf?

Awesome song, and that acoustic version on the other thread rules.

Is anyone playing "guess which songwriter will come next" during this countdown?

Nothing by John or Mick yet. They didn't write much, but I'd be astonished if "The Chain" isn't in the top 20

and, sorry guys, I still prefer the original "Big Love" and ESPECIALLY the Arthur Baker 12" version.

The song epitomised the stylised production techniques used on the album, with its provocative "oh - ahh" male/female vocal exchange. Though many assumed the female "ahh" to be Stevie Nicks, it was actually Lindsey Buckingham performing both, created by way of his voice being sampled and altered in the studio to mimic that of a woman.

wtf?

― how's life, Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:19 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Love it.

It's fucking me up a little bit.

"Big Love" was my #4. I've already stated my preference for the live version on the other thread (when the sort of ironic-sultry "ooh" "ahhs" of the album version turn into insane yelps that sound like he is being prodded with flaming pins and needles), but I've grown to love the album version. The feel of this song and some of my other faves on Tango is like nothing else I've ever experienced.

Eh what? I must hear this Arthur Baker version.

> I wonder if those two post-TITN-pre-SYW albums got any votes at all

Behind the Mask was a UK chart-topper! But doubt anything from it will place. "Save Me" was a hit though, and I'm guessing it at least got a vote or two.

McVie'ss "Skies The Limit" isn't bad but anyone with a problem with her lyrics should plug their ears.

#28: "That's All For Everyone" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 231 points, 11 votes, 1 number one vote

http://images.popmatters.com/news_art/l/lindseybuckingham.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/tJeikZr5xN4

Behind the Mask was a UK chart-topper!

always an interesting fact. Also: Tango topped the UK charts three times.

That cascading harmony section from 1:42 to 2:07 is one of my single favorite Fleetwood Mac moments.

(In "That's All For Everyone")

Yeah, those harmonies are trancendant.

yes! I was going to say exactly the same thing about the harmonies when we got to this one

future games! such a jam!! my #7!!! i am p excited for some reason

"Honey Hi" = John McVie's clinic on the importance of ghost notes.

Have you guys ever noticed how much the intro to "Eye in the Sky" by Alan Parsons Project sounds like "Sisters of the Moon"?

John and Mick are basically always in full-on clinic mode in how to play tastefully and complementarily.

re: chart placement - here's a shocker - Fleetwood Mac s/t '75 completely missed the charts in the UK upon its initial release! Only after Rumours became a megahit did the previous album begin scaling the charts, eventually reaching #23. It was an immediate #1 in the States.

Odd discrepencies in UK/US popularity for this band. The Peter Green stuff was huge in the UK but tanked in the US. It's much better known here now than when it was new.

#27: "Never Going Back Again" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1977) - 243 points, 10 votes, 1 number one vote

http://whenyouawake.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/tumblr_lk3ztoMGKC1qacj99o1_500.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/02ZKmCQl3vw

Nice to see the UK was the one place to make Tusk a no.1

We couldn't work out how to get the discs out of the sleeves so we had to buy another copy.

lol

I apologize; I've bonked up the numbering again... Should be as follows:

#29: "Big Love" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1987) - 219 points, 11 votes
#28: "That's All For Everyone" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 231 points, 11 votes, 1 number one vote
#27: "Never Going Back Again" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1977) - 243 points, 10 votes, 1 number one vote

It would be awesome if a mod could repair the original posts... (I keep looking at my spreadsheet incorrectly--hard to explain without seeing it.)

I can do the repairs, but it'll be later today. Just wanted to say I was the #1 vote for "That's All" and it's that harmony section that put it there.

#26: "What Makes You Think You're the One" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 252 points, 11 votes

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/23969775/Lindsey+Buckingham+Gypsy+Video.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/mUJ-QsijPNQ

Love this one. Felt bad leaving it off my ballot.

love Buck's piano playing on this one.

My #2

Paul Zollo: I was listening to his part on "What Makes You Think You’re The One" from Tusk.

Lindsey: Oh yeah, that’s one of the classic drum tracks. I love that. That’s one of the great drum tracks that I’ve ever heard. That’s up there with "Instant Karma." That was a great moment. That was just Mick and myself late at night in the studio, me at the piano. We put a cassette player that has one of those really cheap mikes in it, we put that right under his snare, and it was so explosive the way he heard it in the cans, he got off on it, and he just turned into an animal. And it was just two-piece, there was no Christine or anybody putting any constraints on what could or couldn’t be done. That has to rate as one of my top-five moments with the band.

Mick really loved the sound of that snare drum...

xpost!

Christine gets a slap in the face!

Want to hear more about these constraints, tbh.

Constraints such as "seriously, cool it with the snare"

I've tried drumming along to this & it's impossible, he never plays the same thing twice

To recap the whole shebang so far:

#60: "Sands of Time" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 57 points, 3 votes
#59: "Dragonfly" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 62 points, 3 votes
#58: "Blue Letter" (Richard & Michael Curtis, 1975) - 63 points, 4 votes
#57: "Warm Ways" (Christine McVie, 1975) - 70 points, 3 votes
#56: "That's Enough For Me" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 70 points, 3 votes
#55: "Coming Your Way" (Danny Kirwan, 1969) - 71 points, 4 votes
#54: "Seven Wonders" (Sandy Stewart, 1987) - 76 points, 4 votes
#53: "Sisters of the Moon" (Stevie Nicks, 1979) - 76 points, 4 votes
#52: "Show Me a Smile" (Christine McVie, 1971) - 87 points, 3 votes, 1 number one vote
#51: "Not That Funny" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 87 points, 5 votes
#50: "I'm So Afraid" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1975) - 90 points, 4 votes
#49: "Keep On Going" (Bob Welch, 1973) - 96 points, 4 votes
#48: "Spare Me a Little of Your Love" (Christine McVie, 1972) - 102 points, 4 votes
#47: "Monday Morning" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1975) - 109 points, 5 votes
#46: "Book of Love" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1982) - 109 points, 5 votes
#45: "Don't Stop" (Christine McVie, 1977) - 111 points, 6 votes
#44: "Woman of 1000 Years" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 113 points, 6 votes
#43: "Dust" (Danny Kirwan, 1972) - 114 points, 4 votes, 2 number one votes
#42: "Crystal" (Stevie Nicks, 1975) - 117 points, 6 votes
#41: "Sentimental Lady" (Bob Welch, 1972): 123 points, 5 votes
#40: "I Don't Want to Know" (Nicks, 1977) - 124 points, 6 votes
#39: "Songbird" (McVie, 1977) - 133 points, 8 votes
#38: "Honey Hi" (Christine McVie, 1979) - 143 points, 7 votes
#37: "Never Forget" (Christine McVie, 1979) - 145 points, 8 votes
#36: "Man of the World" (Peter Green, 1969) - 155 points, 7 votes
#35: "Black Magic Woman" (Peter Green, 1968) - 158 points, 8 votes
#34: "Beautiful Child" (Stevie Nicks, 1979) - 161 points, 8 votes
#33: "The Green Manalishi (With the Two-Prong Crown)" (Peter Green, 1970) - 168 points, 7 votes, 1 number one vote
#32: "Future Games" (Bob Welch, 1971) - 168 points, 8 votes
#31: "I Know I'm Not Wrong" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 185 points, 8 votes, 1 number one vote
#30: "Over My Head" (Christine McVie, 1975) - 217 points, 11 votes
#29: "Big Love" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1987) - 219 points, 11 votes
#28: "That's All For Everyone" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 231 points, 11 votes, 1 number one vote
#27: "Never Going Back Again" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1977) - 243 points, 10 votes, 1 number one vote
#26: "What Makes You Think You're the One" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 252 points, 11 votes

That could be said of a lot of his drumming. I heard an interview once where Mick gave all the credit for the bands tightness to John for being able to keep up with his random, intuitive playing style.

xp

Stevie's gonna clean house tomorrow.

Amazing story, how's... Imagine how cool a duo record of Mick and Buck would be.

Starting to fear my favorite Buckingham cut from Tusk won't make it. ;_;

Mick's always drummed on at least one Buck solo track; the two are tight.

until I read the Zollo interview a few years ago I assumed the manic drumming was Buck's.

I've gotta run out and show a customer some wines (so I can pay for my internet and keep this poll going, ha), but I'll roll out #25-21 in about an hour or so.

Fleetwood Mac ILM poll...brought to you by WINE!

http://www.mickfleetwoodprivatecellar.com/

I've gotta run out and show a customer some wine

Bring us a bottle and we'll be like teh Mac in '79.

That's Gallo For Everyone

Explain to the customer that Mad Dog 20/20 has a much higher alcohol content than Boone's Farm

Riojannon

Pour Me

The Green Nerveltliner (with the screw-off cap).

Corkscrew Turning

Lots of mine in this run. Man of the World was my #3 - one of the saddest songs in the world.

I'm back! They took three out of the four things I showed them, so it looks like I'll be able to keep this going after all...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8153/7558852046_cc09e49b4a_m.jpg

(This shop is actually a client of mine!)

"You can grow your own grapes"

You win!

I wish I could go back in time and unlearn that Mick Fleetwood wines exist...

He makes his wine in a private cellar where there is no Christine or anybody putting any constraints on what could or couldn’t be done.

#25: "Storms" (Stevie Nicks, 1979) - 276 points, 15 votes

http://tarnishedlady.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/stevie_nicks_wallpaper.jpg

Track link: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8153/7558852046_cc09e49b4a_m.jpg

He makes his wine in a private cellar where there is no Christine or anybody putting any constraints on what could or couldn’t be done.

― cwkiii, Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:04 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lindsey is his oenologist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKtASyCinfc

yeat I was trying to think what the characteristics of each FM member's wine would be. Like Lindsey's wine would probably never make it out of his cellar because most batches would fail to meet his exacting requirements

i wish i didn't sleep through all of this (lolunemployment) but a bunch of mine just popped up

Never Going Back Again was my #1, tho it was basically interchangeable with my #2. picked it over that one bc i figured it might need the help. i don't really have a good reason to love it except that it's one of those songs that i have to listen to 5+ times in a row whenever i hear it, and i just fall for it so deeply each time. it's so simple, just gorgeous guitar + lindsey's biting vox. love the way he makes his 'k' and 'g' sounds so vicious, and the pure brattiness of the line "you don't know what it means to win." rumours was seriously such a bratty record.

I Don't Want to Know was my #3. i also listen to it on repeat whenever it comes on. if i were in a band we would cover it at every performance. the whole thing is so damn light but the chorus! that weird rising tension that just keeps going and going and getting more breathless until it plateaus back to I DON'T WANNA KNOW...

jon via chi, you can't really go wrong with any fleetwood mac album up to and including 'tango in the night' imo. the best thing about grabbing all of those albums is if you didn't know any better you'd think you were listening to 4 different bands.

....sometimes on the same record!

also gave points to I Know I'm Not Wrong, 100% because of that sound (harmonica? fiddle) that makes the song sound like it escaped the Sandinista! track listing and burrowed into Tusk.

And Storms! I love Stevie's tendency to build entire songs around one melody repeated over and over again (Sara and Gypsy also placed on my ballot duh). it's so meditative and calm and sad but there's that that tension again, and it seems perfect that the lyrics that hinge on "I have always been a storm" when the arrangement sounds, at most, like heavy rainfall. stevie's voice changes everything.

^"fiddle?" i have no idea what that is, probably not a fiddle

This next one is one of my absolute all-time favorite... Chills city...

#24: “Brown Eyes” (Christine McVie, 1979) – 280 points, 12 votes

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/31413403/Christine+McVie+Chris+tusk.jpg

Track list: http://youtu.be/OIKkveUcBPc

Peter Green plays on this track! (Which was just pointed out to me the other day on the lead-up thread...)

Thank you for introducing me to "Sit On My Face Stevie Nix"

"Brown Eyes" devastates me. DEVASTATING

It was my first favorite song on Tusk back when I discovered the record.

#23: "The Ledge" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 281 points, 13 votes, 1 number one vote

http://gometric.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83508c19a69e20162fff6b4ec970d-800wi

Track link: http://youtu.be/8fVPUoUJ8nQ

COUNTING ON MY FINGERS COUNTING ON MY TOES

Love "The Ledge" so much. One of the most paranoid-sounding songs I've ever heard.

Numbering edits done.

It's so ridiculously manic.

The backing vocals are terrifying!

"The Ledge" gives me agita... But I like it. Only Lindsey could make such a strange, busy melody so catchy.

The Ledge is a perfect reintroduction to lindsey, he sounds so much YOUNGER than he does when you last hear him on rumours.

#22: "Think About Me" (Christine McVie, 1979) - 291 points, 12 votes, 1 number one vote

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VIt42ZwDrR4/S50jl9-wy0I/AAAAAAAADoM/q6JT5PBmof0/s400/fleetwood+mac+trod+nossel+1975+Front.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/4xjNTJK6N6o

My favorite Buck-McVie duet.

I really dig the guitar work on "Think About Me"--busy and creative without at all getting in the way.

a masterpiece of treble too

Haha, Storms-Brown Eyes-Ledge is a great run-of-three! One evening in 2003 I set The Ledge on repeat for hours and tried being paranoid and daring myself to go down to Brixton and score some coke. I didn't of course, it'd've been most unlike me, but I did get to feeling rather *on edge* and it was hard to get to sleep afterwards.

My only Tusk vote

"The Ledge" gives me agita... But I like it. Only Lindsey could make such a strange, busy melody so catchy.

^^^

Why it was my top-ranked Tusk track.

Yeah, Tusk is ripping it up today! That's a hilarious anecdote...

(To Ismael)

BABY ONCE IN A WHIIIIILE

The relative commercial failure of the "Think About Me" single puzzles me - this is one song on Tusk that could have easily fit on Fleetwood Mac or Rumours, and is catchy as all hell, and can't figure as to why it wasn't a big hit.

It was the third single.

Lindsey strikes me as someone who probably mutters, hums, talks, exclaims, etc, to himself all the time... Like creatively productive Tourette's Syndrome.

still glad that "Tusk" and "Sara" made the top ten on career momemtum.

also gave points to I Know I'm Not Wrong, 100% because of that sound (harmonica? fiddle) that makes the song sound like it escaped the Sandinista! track listing and burrowed into Tusk.

For years I had no idea, but the remaster made it pretty clear it was a harmonica. Lindsey's been playing this live lately.

BTW: http://www.citywinery.com/chicago/after-show-wine-reception-with-lindsey-buckingham-8-27.html

You better go to that.

Thinking about it!

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Last one for today, class... Fitting for "Christine's day":

#21: "Say You Love Me" (Christine McVie, 1975) - 320 points, 15 votes

http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/aug07/images/classic6_l.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/YAhwY3FuM1Y

Good day, but still not a lot that I voted for. Either my taste in Fleetwood Mac songs is really common, or I'm an obscurist.

One more wrap-up today:

#60: "Sands of Time" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 57 points, 3 votes
#59: "Dragonfly" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 62 points, 3 votes
#58: "Blue Letter" (Richard & Michael Curtis, 1975) - 63 points, 4 votes
#57: "Warm Ways" (Christine McVie, 1975) - 70 points, 3 votes
#56: "That's Enough For Me" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 70 points, 3 votes
#55: "Coming Your Way" (Danny Kirwan, 1969) - 71 points, 4 votes
#54: "Seven Wonders" (Sandy Stewart, 1987) - 76 points, 4 votes
#53: "Sisters of the Moon" (Stevie Nicks, 1979) - 76 points, 4 votes
#52: "Show Me a Smile" (Christine McVie, 1971) - 87 points, 3 votes, 1 number one vote
#51: "Not That Funny" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 87 points, 5 votes
#50: "I'm So Afraid" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1975) - 90 points, 4 votes
#49: "Keep On Going" (Bob Welch, 1973) - 96 points, 4 votes
#48: "Spare Me a Little of Your Love" (Christine McVie, 1972) - 102 points, 4 votes
#47: "Monday Morning" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1975) - 109 points, 5 votes
#46: "Book of Love" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1982) - 109 points, 5 votes
#45: "Don't Stop" (Christine McVie, 1977) - 111 points, 6 votes
#44: "Woman of 1000 Years" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 113 points, 6 votes
#43: "Dust" (Danny Kirwan, 1972) - 114 points, 4 votes, 2 number one votes
#42: "Crystal" (Stevie Nicks, 1975) - 117 points, 6 votes
#41: "Sentimental Lady" (Bob Welch, 1972): 123 points, 5 votes
#40: "I Don't Want to Know" (Nicks, 1977) - 124 points, 6 votes
#39: "Songbird" (McVie, 1977) - 133 points, 8 votes
#38: "Honey Hi" (Christine McVie, 1979) - 143 points, 7 votes
#37: "Never Forget" (Christine McVie, 1979) - 145 points, 8 votes
#36: "Man of the World" (Peter Green, 1969) - 155 points, 7 votes
#35: "Black Magic Woman" (Peter Green, 1968) - 158 points, 8 votes
#34: "Beautiful Child" (Stevie Nicks, 1979) - 161 points, 8 votes
#33: "The Green Manalishi (With the Two-Prong Crown)" (Peter Green, 1970) - 168 points, 7 votes, 1 number one vote
#32: "Future Games" (Bob Welch, 1971) - 168 points, 8 votes
#31: "I Know I'm Not Wrong" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 185 points, 8 votes, 1 number one vote
#30: "Over My Head" (Christine McVie, 1975) - 217 points, 11 votes
#29: "Big Love" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1987) - 219 points, 11 votes
#28: "That's All For Everyone" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 231 points, 11 votes, 1 number one vote
#27: "Never Going Back Again" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1977) - 243 points, 10 votes, 1 number one vote
#26: "What Makes You Think You're the One" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 252 points, 11 votes
#25: "Storms" (Stevie Nicks, 1979) - 276 points, 15 votes
#24: “Brown Eyes” (Christine McVie, 1979) – 280 points, 12 votes
#23: "The Ledge" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 281 points, 13 votes, 1 number one vote
#22: "Think About Me" (Christine McVie, 1979) - 291 points, 12 votes, 1 number one vote
#21: "Say You Love Me" (Christine McVie, 1975) - 320 points, 15 votes

(way, way xpost here)

jon via chi, you can't really go wrong with any fleetwood mac album up to and including 'tango in the night' imo. the best thing about grabbing all of those albums is if you didn't know any better you'd think you were listening to 4 different bands.

Thanks, I think I'll just dive in and grab whatever ones I happen to come across.

Loving the Tusk-heavy stretch tonight! 'Brown Eyes' has always been my favourite from that album so had hoped it might be higher but never mind.

are there any more green/welch/kirwan songs that could make it or is it the lindsey and stevie (and maybe a little christine) show from here on out?

There are two Green songs and at least one Welch still to come

I can think of one Green and one Welch for sure. Not sure what the other Green song Ismael is thinking of might be.

Their only UK #1 single is yet to come, and features the original line-up.

I voted for all three!

I seriously was expecting to see Storms in the top 5.

The other one was a UK no.2 and they still do it in concert. It's also in two parts, but only the first is likely to place.

"Albatross," mais oui

That's the one I was counting on, but even though I'm partially familiar with the Green era I can't think of what the other one is.

xp 'still' = it's on the 1980 live album. I thought it was on The Dance, but actually it's not.

I'll give you a hint: it starts, "duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh, duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh"

Figured it out by looking at chart placements on wiki. I like that track okay, but...oh well.

Part II is this weird pastoral thing, sort of like an instrumental first-half-of-stairway-to-heaven. There must have been something in the air in 1970.

Apparently due to some sort of studio/mastering error, there's an inadvertently repeated one-minute section of part 2. Never noticed it.

Also, there's four different track listings of Then Play On that have been issued, some with tracks not on the currently-available CD.

pretty sure "eyes of the world" won't make it at this point... but here's a live version from 2004! it cooks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TV6BEwJEKI

sad to see think about me (my #1) so low

and this performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1siQIq6CGEg&feature=related

Stevie looks great!

I love The Ledge so much. I've always thought of it as Lindsey's hommage to rockabilly.