I didn't know whether to put this in the Frank Ocean thread, the XXL Freshmen thread, or the rolling terrible songs of 2012 thread (not because I think this is terrible, but because he has been clowned repeatedly there):
http://www.macklemore.com
Say what you will, but good for him, and I don't mind the song either.
Oh, and here's the cover. His uncles:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/412546/SAMELOVE-BLOG-WEB.jpg
― alpine static, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
The song's not great but the message is expressed well. Hats off to him.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
^my thoughts exactly
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
the number one album on iTunes
"The Heist" Macklemore & Ryan Lewis
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
Leftsetz is excited about the "Jimmy Iovine" song
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
I just saw the video for Same Love the other day. Touching.
I like "Thrift Shop" too, even if it's corny as fuck. Thanks for reminding me the album came out today.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
that is kind of incredible to me given that I only know Macklemore & Ryan Lewis for their contribution to the Worst Fake Irish Songs of All Time canon.
― fish frosch (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
fuck these guys and the safe, acceptable, Bellevue High School class of 2014-enabled horse they rode in on
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
that's not very hug-a-thuggable
― Technology of the Big Muff (DJP), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/486885_456721987704860_2045808381_n.jpg
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
So what is his best song? I feel completely out of the loop with this guy, but it looks as if he's blowing up from some sort of grassroots movement.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
hearty lol @ "I'm a whore 4 Macklemore"
― Technology of the Big Muff (DJP), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
"best song" would imply he has any good ones
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
oh hey now, I'm looking at that girl in the lower middle right next to her friend in the orange top.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:40 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Well, the man has fans. I'm assuming he has some decent songs at least but don't really want to waste my time looking for them. So I'm hoping someone knows about some that are better than the others. I'm pretty liberal. I can enjoy some Mac Miller once in a while and understand his appeal completely. This guy, though? It must be in there somewhere.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
"life's too short" is the weakest, most mockable dismissal to levy against someone's desire to check out a musician, but... well, life's too short
― Technology of the Big Muff (DJP), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
I know it's dumb to compare white rappers to each other just because they're white, but Macklemore already has two more songs I like than Yelawolf and Mac Miller put together.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
my basic take on this dude is: "whatever, i like the songs i've heard pretty well"
it's easy to hate the easily hated.
― alpine static, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
^^ otm, except that I haven't really heard anything I like.
I think what's interesting is that Macklemore seems to be actually crossing over big time without any real media backing outside of the XXL freshmen cover. No one is really paying attention, "important" bloggers and writers are treating him as a joke but sells out shows everywhere (or so I'm told). Mac Miller already did that, but at least he had the Wiz connection, you know? But Mac is too easy to hate and so is Macklemore. So I'm thinking there's something we're missing here, probably. I'm fine with not liking everything the kids like but I like to understand what's going on.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
I deal with condescending white liberal Seattlites day in and day out and I have never, not even once when encountering these folks, thought to myself, "you should rap."
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
there's a generation of Atmosphere fans out there
― rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
never forget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp_lW7yYgiM
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I guess he's the new Slug, really. Atmosphere had some good songs though.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
Atmosphere are the only band I've ever heckled
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
tbf he did go to Garfield, not Bellevue High. I'm not about to start bragging to anyone that he went to my high school though.
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:13 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
imo it's just the same 'certain strain of white kids that are mainly interested in white rappers' that's been around in different forms for ages, rallying around the beasties, then v.ice, then house of pain, icp, eminem, atmosphere, etc etc etc. the other day i saw a 12 year old girl in a mac miller shirt walking around target w/ her mom.
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
― JoeStork, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 3:19 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I said his fans did, not him
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
I think I got tired of being told by earnest white kids who would be repulsed by the idea of listening to Jay-Z or Lil Wayne that I should listen to Macklemore, ooooh, about 5 years ago.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
none of atmosphere are white tho
― rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
The Heist is inventive and original. In fact, this album is almost perfect. Except, however, for one song. “White Walls ft. ScHoolBoy Q & Hollis” glamorizes the offensively stereotypical rap favorites of Cadillacs, rims, and hoes. ScHoolBoy Q’s verse, with lines like “White hoes in the back seat snorting coke” are so glaringly out of place that I’ve been trying to figure out if I’m misinterpreting the song. On an album that attacks name brands, eschews misogyny for inclusiveness, and chronicles substance abuse, hoes snorting coke in a Cadillac seem out of place. It’s a sour note that throws off the rest of the otherwise brilliant album.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
Mack L'Amour would be a good name for a Heavy D type rapper
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
and just now Macklemore is on the radio rapping intensely and earnestly about his battle for sobriety
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
ha some dude
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
according to my facebook feed over the last 20 minutes The Gays are Sold
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
oh lord
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
Dick's is the place where the cool hang out.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
I've never liked their burgers tbh. I did meet Tabes outside of Dick's tho!
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
I finally heard some of this guy's stuff and it just seems like the logical extension of a lot of the underground rap that was predominantly popular with white teenagers--he's definitely a more humorless Slug, but I could see this kinda thing ticking boxes for people who were also really into, like, Eyedea or Cunninlynguists.
That being said, I have liked a couple songs by all three of those and nothing this guy has put out seems remotely close to listenable? What is the appeal beyond him "not rapping about hoes and cars," because the lyrics can't be it?
― fadanuf4erybody, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link
also, what the fuck even is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhf5cuXiLTA
― fadanuf4erybody, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 00:30 (eleven years ago) link
What is the appeal beyond him "not rapping about hoes and cars," because the lyrics can't be it?
― fadanuf4erybody, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 8:26 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
conscious rap has always been one of those genres defined more by what it's not about than what it's about.
― some dude, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i get that, but this kinda thing is so separate from the actual genre in a way closer to mac miller than, i dunno, any of those '00s white guys or talib kweli. honestly shocked that schoolboy q has a verse on this, just so out of place
― fadanuf4erybody, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
i think there's some rule that every rapper who becomes famous or semi-famous the same year has to do a song together, no matter how little sense it makes
― some dude, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
I don't love this dude, but it's hard to hate thrift shop
― has important things to say about gangnam style (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 02:08 (eleven years ago) link
and maaaan I tried
i can't decide if his voice sounds more exactly like slug's or buck 65's (all wite rappers sound the same)
― zachylon (zachlyon), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 11:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
If Macklemore changed his name to Mack L'Amour I'd become a fan.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 06:46 (eleven years ago) link
I still wouldn't buy his music though. I'd just, you know, defend him on the internet.
I still define conscious rap as afrocentric, this post atmosphere stuff feels different imo
― rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
they're gonna do no. 1 on billboard next week
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
actually i guess mumfords are gonna go no. 1 again, but macklemore will be up there
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
Your take on this guy, Jordan?
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't gotten around to listening to this stuff much yet but uhhhh about what you would expect, i think
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
Lol. I guess I just want there to be some kind of mystery that I'm not getting here. I hate hating on stuff that's just too easy to hate.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
After a bit of consideration it's very interesting that the kids actually WANT this. It's basically anti-hipster music, music that's taking sincerity to another level, all big feelings and no holding back, no irony or guile, the rap equivalent of Big Country and Mumford & sons. It's a sign of the times.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Thursday, 11 October 2012 09:43 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, Atmosphere was for the rap nerds. This is for the kids.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Thursday, 11 October 2012 09:45 (eleven years ago) link
"The question isn't whether this Seattle alt-rapper is a cornball, it's whether he's so dumb he's a cornball or so brave he's a cornball."
-Christgau
― alpine static, Monday, 15 October 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think it's either or.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Monday, 15 October 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.complex.com/music/2012/10/macklemore-ryan-lewis-the-heist-sells-over-74000-copies
Dude's number 2 - after Mumford, appropriately enough.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
It's basically anti-hipster music
if we're still using hipster in 2012 it seems pretty hipster 2 me
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
how? (and for the record i'm not usually using hipster in 2012)
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
also, what the fuck even is this
well starting at that video, for one
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
That vid is a lark that's pretty much 180 from what he normally does. He's making fun of hipsters in it, not embracing them.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
would you say he's being... sarcastic
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
He is being blatantly dorky and uncool. It compliments his usual overly sincere thing more than it contradicts it, I think. I'm impressed by how good he is at selling this to his audience. And it's too broad to be sarcastic, probably.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
He is being blatantly dorky and uncool. It compliments his usual overly sincere thing more than it contradicts it, I think.
Yup.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link
He seems like someone I would have known in college, like maybe someone everyone knew in college. Fun at parties, basically a good guy in spite of his putzy personality, someone you'd probably wind up bear hugging at 3AM when plastered and telling him he's "da man"
― michael bolton's reckless daughter (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
Speaking of white independent rappers who are more popular with the kids than with the crits, this new Nico-sampling Mac Miller joint is pretty out there. I like it. http://soundcloud.com/larryfisherman/these-dayz-dope-awprah-prod
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link
I came looking for this thread expecting to find a good centralized collection of enthusiasms. Surprised to find a bunch of casual dismissal instead. But "the rap equivalent of Big Country" is perfect, thanks.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
I'm enthusiastic about the song in the thread title. Big time. Thrift Shop is pretty irresistible. Guy's got several decent to above average songs, and some clunkers, too. And he gets to preachy, but we know that going in.
But as far as I'm concerned, "Same Love" gives him a pass for his missteps.
Seems like a solid dude. Give me Macklemore over, like, Spaceghostpurp or whatever.
― alpine static, Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
I just heard the whole album for the first time, so I shouldn't make any grand statements, but between this, Urthboy and K'naan it's seeming like a really good year for hip hop pop, or whatever this stuff is, to me. (Plus all the 2010/2011 grime I missed at the time.)
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6iekmPrvL1qb9wqio12_250.gif
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
k'naan is probably one of those guys that's like way more popular than you think he is
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
lol talk about stacking the deck
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
fair enough. how bout Main Attrakionz or however you spell it?
― alpine static, Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
How about them?
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
maybe they're a slightly fairer fight
― alpine static, Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
Real talk I'd listen to nothing but Spaceghostpurrp and Main Attrakionz for a month if it meant I never had to see Macklemore's name again.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
It makes sense that someone who doesn't like MA or Spaceghostburp might enjoy Mackiemore though.
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
i dont think anyone here really reps for either main attrakionz or sgp
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
I though 808 was great, but not feeling the album, like the other Green Ova more (Shady Blaze)
― Regional Tug (irrational), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
ha i like main attrakionz a lot
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
i really hope people irl pronounce their name phonetically
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
Not saying anyone here reps for ma or sgp but I sure do read their names a lot on the internet. Just saying id rather listen to this corny dude than those currently "cool" dudes, that's all.
Definitely know where the Rev stands on Macklemore by now, tho.
― alpine static, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
this guy is vile, but i find much to enjoy in that thrift shop song
been a bit of a cult favourite at parties the past few months or so
― monotony, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
ha, to be fair I've been a lot more cogent in my macklemore hate on twitter than I have here but don't feel like rehashing all the stuff I said there so just settling for base-lvl hatin' instead
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
safe, acceptable, Bellevue High School class of 2014
Roll the year back a bit and allow for all the other eastside burbs and this is like 50% of my students. They all seem to love the shit out of these dudes.
― joygoat, Friday, 2 November 2012 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
I like Main Attrakionz but their problem is that they're not important to anyone. Mackiemore stakes his career on being incredibly important to a certain audience. So in a sense he wins even though I kinda hate him.
― weak willie (longneck), Friday, 2 November 2012 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
that's otm
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 2 November 2012 00:13 (eleven years ago) link
How the fuck did this guy make it to #1 in NZ w/"Thrift Shop"?
― etc, Monday, 26 November 2012 05:37 (eleven years ago) link
that sounds about right
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 26 November 2012 05:54 (eleven years ago) link
it's pretty killer if you ignore him completely and never watch the video or learn the title
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Monday, 26 November 2012 05:58 (eleven years ago) link
entered at #4 in Australia last week, up to #2 this week
PS I love Thrift Shop ;-;
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Monday, 26 November 2012 06:30 (eleven years ago) link
The beat is annoying and stiff as fuck tho. xp
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 26 November 2012 06:44 (eleven years ago) link
thrift shop is super corny
― D-40, Monday, 26 November 2012 07:21 (eleven years ago) link
beat is the thing i like most about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― monotony, Monday, 26 November 2012 08:34 (eleven years ago) link
i thought it was the only thing anyone liked about it
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Monday, 26 November 2012 08:37 (eleven years ago) link
This even sounds like Australian rap. Not good.
― Tim F, Monday, 26 November 2012 10:24 (eleven years ago) link
hey c'mon Tim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g12f7uDIGZc&list=UL
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Thursday, 29 November 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
this is bummers :/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/29/susan-johnson-michigan-teacher-gay-song-suspended_n_2211725.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003&ir=Detroit
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 30 November 2012 03:01 (eleven years ago) link
this dude is an extended prank, right
― DJP, Monday, 14 January 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
he sounds like Macauley Culkin circa Home Alone or something
― some dude, Monday, 14 January 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
Chris Weingarten @1000TimesYes
Fucking Macklemore is number one on the Hot 100. I'm more ashamed of America right now than the time they re-elected George W. Bush
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ews27a5bZQs/Ts1L8pSBanI/AAAAAAAARiw/bfcuzsJhiIQ/s1600/crying-eagle.jpg
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
ohhhh lord mix-a-lot kid sensation please talk to this sucker cause they killing hip hop they taking the pain and struggle of life of hip hop the only thing we coulda express our minds and pain. and these suckers took it and made it look like garbage thats why we get judge so much cause these shit dont be making sence
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
The Reverend wrote this on thread WHAT KILLED THE UNDERGROUND on board I Love Music on Aug 29, 2007
I haven't read the whole thread, but the Defari & J-Zone bits at the top and bottom are definitely what's up. I hate the hiphop scene here, because the only things that get championed are nerd rappers with names like Common Market and Optimus Rhyme (actually, that's a great name, but damn if I wanna listen to anyone who calls himself that) and Macklemore, who raps about his white liberal guilt, and anything that sounds like it was made by actual humans, instead of backpack-bots gets overlooked.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
seattle used to have swag man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=renc0ZVmz4Y
― My Lol's Beyond (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
ohhhh lord mix-a-lot kid sensation
lol
― Influential Acid Jazz Pioneer (crüt), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
I'm having trouble explaining to people IRL why "same love" is bad
― monotony, Thursday, 24 January 2013 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
ha, i was just engaged in "why 'same love' is bad" with noz on twitter
― The Reverend, Thursday, 24 January 2013 00:58 (eleven years ago) link
i've never heard this song... think i might make this the first ever no. 1 single i ever purposefully ignore
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 January 2013 00:59 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:58 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
you should pitch this somewhere
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 January 2013 01:00 (eleven years ago) link
it's an impt point
i remember thinking it was so weird that mix-a-lot was from seattle, it was before grunge and shit so seattle didn't really have much of an image in my brain
― My Lol's Beyond (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 January 2013 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
but i always wanted to hang out with the swass at Dick's
mix got his roots in that mid-80s west coast electro scene so it makes perfect sense
― The Reverend, Thursday, 24 January 2013 01:03 (eleven years ago) link
I met the table is the table in front of Dick's on Broadway (true story)
yeah totally does, but you know this was way back so that stuff didn't really travel far you know...it's more just thinking about before people had much of an idea of what seattle was as a city! kinda trippy.
i'm listening to this
it's really bad obv
has anyone noticed something kinda noticed this kinda annoying what he enunciates words? like his "Ps" really pop in an annoying way and the sibilance on his "S's" suck, maybe it's just the tone of his voice & the say it's recorded
man the rhymesayers dudes must be kinda salty watching this dude go huge with a way worse version of their style
― My Lol's Beyond (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 January 2013 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nice! i'd like to think Larry the White Guy and Attitude Adjuster are still there to this day, eating hamburgers
― My Lol's Beyond (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 January 2013 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
it's basically "Gangnam Style," goofy pop rap satire of materialism w/ a viral video
― Doctor No Cassie (some dude), Thursday, 24 January 2013 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
who is ryan lewis btw? is he a producer?
oh he's this douche singing
― My Lol's Beyond (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 January 2013 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
no that's Wanz, Ryan Lewis is the producer
― Doctor No Cassie (some dude), Thursday, 24 January 2013 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
― My Lol's Beyond (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:05 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's wonderful to watch white rappers have their music stolen by the white man
― Doctor No Cassie (some dude), Thursday, 24 January 2013 01:10 (eleven years ago) link
o god this is the dude w/ that one song I didn't know
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 24 January 2013 01:18 (eleven years ago) link
for sake of balance, i'm posting this dope circa-2000 local hit
http://thanorthwest.com/samples/audio8/uaua5.mp3
― The Reverend, Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
http://s.discogss.com/image/R-109345-1278180783.jpeg
― Andy K, Thursday, 24 January 2013 03:01 (eleven years ago) link
have any other "independent" tracks gone #1 on the Hot 100 in the last few years? I'm trying to think of other examples but can't think of any
― berner herzog (fadanuf4erybody), Thursday, 24 January 2013 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
rev doing the lords work itt
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
tho its p funny too how the rest of Ilx/rap cant even be bothered
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
anyway I have a complaint re the thrifting song, maklmor is so obvs a menswear bro not some sort of fun 2nd hand shopper
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
willy@willystaleyMacklemore 2012: "Thrift Shop" Macklemore 2014: "H&M and Uniqlo" Macklemore 2016: "J.Crew"
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
ahaha
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
2018 apc
hadn't heard of these guys (is it one guy?) at all but a friend was raving and posting links about them on twitter the other morning - I finally clicked on one and it totally ruined my day. horrifying stuff.
― Roz, Thursday, 24 January 2013 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
this was the first place i ate when i was there!
i still haven't heard this guy
― steaklife (donna rouge), Thursday, 24 January 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
ok i've heard this guy now and oyyyyy
― steaklife (donna rouge), Thursday, 24 January 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
Here's a short mix of Charles Mudede's top 20 Seattle Hip Hop tracks for 2012 if you want to know what else was happening around town.
https://soundcloud.com/pop-life-recordings/best-of-seattle-hip-hop-2012-1
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 24 January 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
Fresh Espresso - “Goodnight Sinatra”
― bert yansh (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 January 2013 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
charles mudede is kinda crazy fyi
― JoeStork, Friday, 25 January 2013 00:18 (eleven years ago) link
Charles Mudede is a fucking genius. Crazy? Perhaps, but aren't all brilliant minds?
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 25 January 2013 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
while we're in the shop
http://i.imgur.com/w0NABTK.jpg
& http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=4124
― zvookster, Friday, 25 January 2013 00:43 (eleven years ago) link
awesome
Swass by Sir Mix-a-Lot was weirdly big in my little MN farm town, like Mix was as big as Run-DMC or LL or NWA or Slick Rick or Too Short whatever else was going on...bunch of dudes wore the swass shirt and fake mercedes chains
― bert yansh (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 January 2013 00:57 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 January 2013 01:00 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i kind of don't get this -- i can see why same love is 'bad' but i don't see why it's importantly bad
i think the level of hate being evinced for guy is kinda sad tbh
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Friday, 25 January 2013 01:14 (eleven years ago) link
I love when max posts his mail:
max read @max_read"Okay motherfucker. Clearly you don't understand the lyrical genius Macklemore includes in his music. "
"Okay motherfucker. Clearly you don't understand the lyrical genius Macklemore includes in his music. "
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
max read @max_read"In this way he uses sarcasm to flaunt the way his clothes are unique, cooler,max read @max_readand give him more style then the expensive shit everyone else in the "rap game" brags about."max read @max_read"I fucking grew up in Richmond Virginia. I'm Black."
"In this way he uses sarcasm to flaunt the way his clothes are unique, cooler,
max read @max_read
and give him more style then the expensive shit everyone else in the "rap game" brags about."
"I fucking grew up in Richmond Virginia. I'm Black."
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
didmax write something abt macklemore
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY2kJ96jNY
― Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
feel like im in some alternate universe where Cock Mobster was an inescapable smash hit. except this is way worse
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
well, the radio edit "Rock Lobster" was quite popular
― fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
Ha! xp
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
ha! xp again
the thing that's weird about the thrift store song, when hearing it on the radio, is how chintzy and un-current it sounds. sounds like he got that mf'in beat at the thrift shop. anyway, that's all i have to say about this guy who i was hoping to die without ever listening to.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
what a disaster for marriage equality
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
intro printmaking class has their first projects up on the wall - one was titled "Same Love", another from a different student was titled "Thrift Store"
― joygoat, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
should've said "this one's titled MY FIST" and punched them off the wall
― says a future man to his crystal son (reddening), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
haha
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 February 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
i hear this song at the gym all the time and all i ever hear is the sax and the chorus, the raps are completely inaudible on the gym speakers fwiw
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 8 February 2013 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
they were playing a macklemore song as bumper music on my local sports talk radio station
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 February 2013 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
xpost that's like how this lady in my office plays the radio at such a low volume that the only thing i ever hear at my desk is the synth line to "we found love" 5 to 6 times a day
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 8 February 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
haha yeah workplaces and other situations where radio is kept at an almost subliminal volume is one of my biggest pet peeves
― dirty drone barack boy (some dude), Friday, 8 February 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
yeah just hear the faintest hi-hat patterns and shit, so annoying
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 February 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
really the most offensive part of this song is the blatant Nate Dogg imitation on the hook
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Saturday, 9 February 2013 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
i just listened to this song for the first time
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 9 February 2013 04:13 (eleven years ago) link
holy shit this nate dogg thing is unbelievable
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 9 February 2013 04:14 (eleven years ago) link
this is like if nate dogg's career had gone horribly wrong in the 90s and he had collaborated with LFO
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 9 February 2013 04:15 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1537520/wanz-qa-meet-the-f-ing-awesome-singer-in-thrift-shop
He was looking for a guy that sounds like Nate Dogg. For a decade, I've been known as the Nate Dogg of North End in Seattle
― dirty drone barack boy (some dude), Saturday, 9 February 2013 04:18 (eleven years ago) link
i honestly didn't mind that part of the song that much until i learned they wrote it purposefully as a faux-nate dogg hook, ugh
― dirty drone barack boy (some dude), Saturday, 9 February 2013 04:19 (eleven years ago) link
this thread is great
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 February 2013 04:21 (eleven years ago) link
between this, Urthboy and K'naan it's seeming like a really good year for hip hop pop, or whatever this stuff is, to me. (Plus all the 2010/2011 grime I missed at the time.)
"I didn't know whether to put this in the Frank Ocean thread"
― dirty drone barack boy (some dude), Saturday, 9 February 2013 04:22 (eleven years ago) link
hahahahaha yes i was just gonna post that too.
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 February 2013 04:30 (eleven years ago) link
― dirty drone barack boy (some dude), Friday, February 8, 2013 8:18 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I live in the North End and totally did not know him as the Nate Dogg of North End.
Also might bear mentioning that the North End is the mostly white part of Seattle.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 9 February 2013 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
"For a decade, I've been known as the Nate Dogg of North End in Seattle" has a better ring to it than "For a decade, I've been known as the black guy of North End in Seattle"
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 9 February 2013 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Saturday, 9 February 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b24E-hZcAIA
― Guccifer 2 Time (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 04:11 (eleven years ago) link
http://youtu.be/b24E-hZcAIA
Am I the only one who hears a connection between Hot Chip's Playboy and thrift shop?
― Moka, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 04:32 (eleven years ago) link
i get why this is possible but it ain't really working for me
― it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 05:42 (eleven years ago) link
er, popular = possible
and i mean, fuck, i worked at a salvation army thrift store for two years and at least half my closet is still thrift store finds but i cannot get with thisthough i have heard less enjoyable novelty hits in the past 365
― it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 05:44 (eleven years ago) link
btw that NPR piece about "ooh he hired a label for distribution" was some lightweight bullshit. noz tweets otm as usual.
― alpine static, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 08:34 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha this song continues to be the worst thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Cnm0tdkJEU
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
she said 'freakin'
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
<i>he called the shit "poop"</i>
― Guccifer 2 Time (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
http://mobile.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/02/15/macklemore_nba_ad_with_wings_is_the_rapper_a_sellout.html?original_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slate.com%2Fsearch.html%3Fq%3Dmacklemore
This guy...
― longneck, Monday, 18 February 2013 07:52 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.hulu.com/watch/472474?playlist_id=1031
― s.clover, Friday, 29 March 2013 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
my alma mater got macklemore to play spring fling https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9627011/photos/facepalm.gif
― 乒乓, Monday, 15 April 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
we got Tyga, so some of the pain is being spread around
obv you got more... MACKLEMORE
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Monday, 15 April 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
I still think this guy is by far the least hateful of this generation of frat rappers
― --808 542137 (Hurting 2), Monday, 15 April 2013 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
I guess by some measurements "Thrift Shop" is slightly better than "I Love College," but otoh the damn, that's a cold ass honky line is the worst thing to ever happen
― LADIES ONLY PHYCHIC NIGHT (crüt), Monday, 15 April 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
there hasn't been non-hatable white frat rap* since House of Pain
* black frats exist and they listen to rap too, just in case you forgot; in fact, all rap can be described as "frat rap"
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Monday, 15 April 2013 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
ΝωΑ
― LADIES ONLY PHYCHIC NIGHT (crüt), Monday, 15 April 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
in fact, all rap can be described as "frat rap"
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Monday, April 15, 2013 4:56 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark
oh yeah? what about... uh... that weird eurorapper guy on the original version of 'Self Control'
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 15 April 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
Macklemore is performing at Preakness this year, but i take some consolation in the fact that he is opening for Pitbull
― some dude, Monday, 15 April 2013 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Monday, April 15, 2013 4:56 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
house of pain were much more legit than any of our mackelmores, their audience may have been fratty but they themselves werent really those bros
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 00:43 (eleven years ago) link
― --808 542137 (Hurting 2), Monday, April 15, 2013 1:52 PM Bookmark
I dunno, the whole repeatedly being sanctimonious towards black people in his lyrics thing gives me a special hate-on towards him. Plus the yeaaaaarrrrs of people trying to shove this guy down me throat.
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
i'll get me throat
― some dude, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 00:51 (eleven years ago) link
the whole repeatedly being sanctimonious towards black people in his lyrics thing gives me a special hate-on towards him.
^ this
― LADIES ONLY PHYCHIC NIGHT (crüt), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
lol typo xp :(
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
i watched his snl w a friend who had never heard of him and she just couldnt believe it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 00:56 (eleven years ago) link
macklesnore.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
Everlast was part of rhyme syndicate way before house of pain so he's hardly frat rap
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 03:57 (eleven years ago) link
a couple years ago, i was in a bar and heard this guy explaining really loud and insistent how REAL RAP was better than all that fake shit on TV about bling and guns and cars and shit, that REAL RAP was positive and enlightening, and all the gangsters and dealers and bitches and shit were a con, a commercial ploy, the debasement of a pure form in the hands of perpetrating phonies. there were only about four people in the place, huge place, and i was so fucking to tempted to go over there and beg him to shut up, maybe just hold it down, was so painful to hear. i of course refrained.
just watched "thrift shop". ha! how wrong was i? he's a star.
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
wait, macklemore was the guy in the bar? not sure I'm reading this right...
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
and then he gifted me a teal windbreaker, special moment, deep communication
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 04:34 (eleven years ago) link
yeah
turns out he's pretty bad, too
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 04:34 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah I forget you are a local
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 04:35 (eleven years ago) link
great story tho
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 04:37 (eleven years ago) link
was a local, now i'm a million miles away
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 04:38 (eleven years ago) link
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:33 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ha wow totally didt catch that lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 04:38 (eleven years ago) link
just ctrl-F'd this thread and the word "precious" has not yet been used to describe macklemore
i can deal with "hateful" but can we please cut it out with smugly self-satisfied rappers?
― cocktail onion (fennel cartwright), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 04:45 (eleven years ago) link
for those who havent seen the snl performance it is for sure appointment tv, even more so than his records it really came through what an amateur he is, like his voice is so wack it didnt cut through the beat or ride the beat or anything it was just obliterated by the beat, but it didnt seem to be a mixing issue, you could hear him but not hear him, its the sort of basic ass thing you could tell he just hasnt noticed or thought about or worked on, and then his whole stage presence was simultaneously so theatrical and so aimless, it didnt have any connection to the music or anything particularly, he was just wearing silly clothes and jumping around arrhythmically , you could tell his whole plan was just to put a ton of energy out there and hopefully the crowd gets hyped up, it was all really crazily entry level, like i already thought he sucked bigtime and i was shocked at how bad it was
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
sound mix on snl is always ass tho
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 05:21 (eleven years ago) link
On the radio here the DJs are particular about pronouncing his name "Mack - luh - more" which is just so much more precious than "Mackel - more", is it really the former?
i was shocked at how bad it was
― lag∞n, Monday, April 15, 2013 11:01 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Macklemore
― sleepingbag, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 05:33 (eleven years ago) link
You may have glossed over the part of my post where I objected to the cultural assumptions behind the term "frat rap"
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 12:24 (eleven years ago) link
Pomp - luh - mooseMack - luh - more
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 12:29 (eleven years ago) link
My kid is so into Thrift Shop right now. He keeps trying to show me youtubes of like Minecraft Thrift Shop and the like. Yesterday, he was like "you know the part that he sings over and over again? I memorized that!" He pronounces it Mackel-uh-more.
― how's life, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 12:34 (eleven years ago) link
so macklamoose is barney?
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 12:51 (eleven years ago) link
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:21 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah it was bad but the underlying wackness shown through
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
wait this clown was on SNL?
― brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
Of course he was.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
http://idolator.com/7444489/macklemore-ryan-lewis-saturday-night-live-watch
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
So here are my thoughts on Macklemore. Before I ever heard his music, I got the impression that ILM thought he was wack, so when "Thrift Shop" blew up, I was like, ugh, this is *that* clown. But then people I love and care about -- but people who aren't at all invested in hip-hop or what Macklemore "represents" -- started talking about how great "Thrift Shop" was. And I had to defend why I didn't like him, but I realized I couldn't. I mean, something something anti-bling something something appropriation. Whatever. The song is pretty good. Not great, but pretty good. Catchy as fuck. The end.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehJFc1W0VKE
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
lol jaymc 'your objections are conceptual, its a good song, whatever', but check out this counterpoint bro: its a terrible song
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not impressed by this guy in the slightest, but I find the whole "omg a white guy taking a critical stance on hip-hop culture while appropriating it at the same time, the NERVE" thing ironic when it comes from folks who dig Beck & the Beasties.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
omg fuck that google movie in the face
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
the answer is to not dig beck (ugh) or the beasties either
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
rip hip-hop wytes
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:38 AM Bookmark
that preview almost gave me a conniption when i saw it in the theater
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
jaymc still providing ilm with the valuable pov of people who don't really care about music i see
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
the sample and melody to the hook are decent. shame about everything else.
― Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
catchiness is not an indicator of quality
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ comparing Macklemore to Beck or (especially) the Beasties btw
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
o man i just rescreened the snl performance, just unbelievable, especially the non thrift store song
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
lol he did the Ellen showhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4HbtTKsHL0
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
It's basically just a Lonely Island song, no?
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
totally Ellen music
― LADIES ONLY PHYCHIC NIGHT (crüt), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
lol a longboard of course
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
his dancing
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
and pancho
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
he's really awkward to watch
it's painful really
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
That's a good counterpoint. I think I disagree, though.
I don't know what this means.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
I can't believe I haven't gone in on Ryan Lewis itt but FUCK RYAN LEWIS. His "fun" songs have no groove whatsoever and his "serious songs" are three times as bossy as a John Williams score. That guy is the fucking worst producer. This thread needs more Ryan Lewis slander.
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not saying that anyone criticizing Macklemore is misguided or anything. You probably all have perfectly good reasons to dislike him -- I didn't.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
his sound is v thin, macklemores voice is v thin, they have no idea what theyre doin xp
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:42 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark
hmm
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
also that sax loop is annoying af
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
Not always, but it often is for me. YMMV.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
getting the feeling that its vital to a lot of ur identities that u hate macklemore & its just a convenience that his horrible music justifies it
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
if i admit to enjoying several g love and the special sauce songs in the past am i then allowed to dislike macklemore authentically, do i have to pay a tribute, just tell me
― infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
seriously i love to be contrarian and if there was any semi-reasonable redeeming quality for this guy i'd love to find a reason to like him.
this ellen performance is such a mess. what is he even wearing why.
― Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
no idea what they're doing all the way to the bank, right?
― shit tie (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
it's the RFD: Light-hearted, whimsical indie hipster music that seemed specifically manufactured for Apple commercials -ification of rap, amirite?
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
a poncho, from a thrift shop, c'mon keep up here
― ְ֮֠֓֟֬֩ (gr8080), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
haha yeah when laggy complained that he wore "silly clothes" on snl it's like uh...
― HOOSTEENA/The Steens of God (some dude), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
his outfit on snl is clearly not from a thrift shop tho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
also you can find nice clothes at thrift shops its not just some stupid joke
i mean you can dess like a fool for not that much money is not a v good critique of consumerism
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link
the distance between macklemore and mumfords or karmin seems awfully short. cheerful, encouraging, seemingly well-adjusted happytimes homeowner music for people who like to barbecue and hold babies and go to hot yoga and make car payments on time. nothing really wrong with it, except that it makes my skin crawl.
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
who doesn't like barbeque
― infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:08 (eleven years ago) link
boy i sure do hate homeowners
― ְ֮֠֓֟֬֩ (gr8080), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:08 (eleven years ago) link
ooooh you mean people who barbeque and hold babies and do yoga at the same time, phew *wipes brow*
― infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
Thought this was the privilege meme thread for a sec
― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
hey, i get weirded out by nice things. it's nothing i'm particularly proud of, but that doesn't change the situation.
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
macklemore is ill-suited to curmudgery
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:31 (eleven years ago) link
I don't mind Karmin
Macklemore can die in a fire tho
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:35 (eleven years ago) link
.....
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:37 (eleven years ago) link
we live in a world where Drake is making bank, in that landscape Karmin is the definition of "lesser of two evils"
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
if you watch the snl performance on mute and with no prior knowledge of macklemore you will very possibly mistake it for an snl performance from the early 90s
― infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
there is no greater evil than karmin, not even macklemore
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:54 (eleven years ago) link
ya drake is mozart to those two
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:04 (eleven years ago) link
Karmin ia irritating but I can detect talent there; call it the Jessie J Effect
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 03:03 (eleven years ago) link
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the Karmin version of "Started From The Bottom" is better than the original, or at least more hilariously trolly
― HOOSTEENA/The Steens of God (some dude), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 04:55 (eleven years ago) link
http://observer.com/2013/04/you-would-have-done-the-same-woman-chokes-out-boyfriend-for-singing-macklemores-thrift-store-repeatedly/
http://25.media.tumblr.com/1744c745d7716aa0e60df4d972ea5a00/tumblr_ml05vgEzmM1qzfbufo1_500.png
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 05:21 (eleven years ago) link
i don't know where you guys come from saying that it's terrible thin music... i would probably like the song if not for the brats who perform it. knowing how insufferably turdy macklemore and ryan lewis are causes me a great deal of anguish like noooo why do i have to hate this soooong
p.s. i also say "mac-ull-more" but i think the argument for "mac-le-more" might come from vintage seattle mariners utility player mark mclemore (mac-le-more), who our boy is supposedly named after
― cocktail onion (fennel cartwright), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 05:48 (eleven years ago) link
wow that is a name i have not heard in forever
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 06:14 (eleven years ago) link
i've had this fucking song in my head all day and i've wanted to cut my head off all day, can we please just close this thread
― infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 06:17 (eleven years ago) link
catchiness can often be an indicator of quality but not when it makes you wish you were never born
catchiness is an indicator of the quality of catchiness
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 12:24 (eleven years ago) link
I heard the new Macklemore single and thought it was B.o.B. at first
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
What's the deal with B.o.B. anyway? All I know about him is that he raps on "Airplanes," and I like that tune.
― jaymc, Thursday, August 26, 2010 5:03 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― jaymc, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
he's a clown
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
he might be the most recent chart-topper that i've completely forgotten about
― infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
so this is a p standard shitty article about racism with one interesting/unintentionally hilarious + sad fact:
http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/news/2013/04/19/racial-mockery-hopkins-high-sparks-outrage-black-student-handcuffed
The incident began on Feb. 13; when eight to 10 white members of the school's ski team came to school dressed in motley ensembles of do-rags, fur coats, white tank top undershirts, sagging pants and gold chains. One even had a fake marijuana joint tucked behind his ear. Somehow word spread that the students were celebrating a "Ghetto Spirit Day." Those who came to school in costume dispute this assertion, and claimed to school administrators that they were dressing up to mimic popular white rapper, Macklemore, who sings "Thrift Shop."
― 乒乓, Sunday, 21 April 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno, the whole repeatedly being sanctimonious towards black people in his lyrics thing gives me a special hate-on towards him
wait, this guy has MORE songs with casual racism? ugh.
― monotony, Monday, 22 April 2013 03:58 (eleven years ago) link
I - I - I'm hunting, looking for a come-up
One man's trash, that's another man's come-up
Is "come-up" a real phrase or is he trying to make it happen?
― how's life, Monday, 22 April 2013 11:54 (eleven years ago) link
tis a rare thing when someone can establish themselves as less aware of entry level slang than macklemore, let's all politely look away in embarrassment
― some dude, Monday, 22 April 2013 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
the weather sure did turn cold today
― 乒乓, Monday, 22 April 2013 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
although granted it's unacceptable that macklemoose puts it in the song twice, neither time really in the way anyone else would use it xp
― some dude, Monday, 22 April 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
Nah you're forcing it, there are enough reasons to clown Macklemore without picking that shit out.
― Studied keyboard mash (tsrobodo), Monday, 22 April 2013 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
tis a rare thing when someone can establish themselves as less aware of entry level slang than macklemore, let's all politely look away in embarrassment― some dude, Monday, April 22, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalinktis a rare thing when someone can establish themselves as less aware of entry level slang than macklemore, let's all politely look away in embarrassment― some dude, Monday, April 22, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― some dude, Monday, April 22, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Well how should it be used? I've never heard it before, but it sounded really awkward.
― how's life, Monday, 22 April 2013 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
second quote should be some dude's second post, obviously.
― how's life, Monday, 22 April 2013 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
I like it better this way, it's like a superior version of Amanda Palmer's Dzhokhar Tsarnaev poem
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Monday, 22 April 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
you don't know how to use the phrase "come up"
― some dude, Monday, 22 April 2013 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
In the usage "to come up", yeah. But I've never heard "a come-up", which is what Macklemoo is doing here.
― how's life, Monday, 22 April 2013 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
when used as a noun it's usually "on the come-up" (or "creepin on ah come up" in bone thugs terms)
― some dude, Monday, 22 April 2013 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1lh1a6dTO1qei7y4o1_500.jpg
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 22 April 2013 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
Oh ok. I never listened to Bone Thugs! I guess it has some legitimacy. It sounds really weird, especially the way he lets it out there twice in the same song.
― how's life, Monday, 22 April 2013 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
i hope this will explain it once and for all from the website urbandictionary.com
1. come up Share on twitter Share on facebook Share on more1324 up, 323 downA bargain, or a found item that is of value to the finder."One man's trash, that's another man's come up." - from Thrift Shop by Macklemore
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
lmao
― some dude, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 02:16 (eleven years ago) link
there are enough reasons to clown Macklemore without picking that shit out
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 02:25 (eleven years ago) link
still funny tho
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 02:37 (eleven years ago) link
hey i'm laughing at urbandictionary now
― some dude, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
that's such a shitty line tho
― infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
every macklemore line just has this "look ma i'm rapping!!!" subtext
"that's great, honey"
― infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 03:16 (eleven years ago) link
lol oym
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
otm too
ha yeah
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 03:31 (eleven years ago) link
back at #1 with "Can't Hold Us" :/
― The Reverend, Thursday, 9 May 2013 05:43 (ten years ago) link
I tried to listen to that "Can't Hold Us", but got as far as that "return of the mack" line before exiting the browser in protest.
― Greer, Thursday, 9 May 2013 06:43 (ten years ago) link
i've switched the station many times due to this song
― dyl, Thursday, 9 May 2013 07:54 (ten years ago) link
of course it is also #1 on r&b/hip-hop songs despite not registering on r&b/hip-hop airplay at all (correct me if i am wrong, sometimes i am bad at using the billboard site)
― dyl, Thursday, 9 May 2013 08:00 (ten years ago) link
No, you're right. It's nowhere to be found on hip-hop airplay charts. Thrift Shop also only got as high as #47 there as well and even that was only after some stations probably felt compelled to play what was the #1 hip-hop song in the country at the time according to Billboard. Though that makes me wonder how their label approached getting them on the radio. Did they approach hip-hop stations who just had no interest in playing his songs, or did they avoid hip-hop radio entirely and only go for pop, alt, rhythmic and HAC radio?
― Greer, Thursday, 9 May 2013 08:20 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmd7rV6ZUjg
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 23 May 2013 03:16 (ten years ago) link
Posted mainly for advances in sunglasses fashion.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 23 May 2013 03:18 (ten years ago) link
Anyone else get Bring Em Out vibes from Thrift Shop?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuyxX5P5Xug
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 10 June 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link
:(
You just compared one of my favorite rap songs to one of my least favorite rap songs.
Thought this was gonna be revived for: “Same Love,” same old shit?
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
Yeah Bring Em Out is all time, listened to Urban Legend yesterday. As sad as it is, am I wrong?
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 03:11 (ten years ago) link
You are wrong.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 03:15 (ten years ago) link
K thx
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 03:15 (ten years ago) link
awesome:http://www.avclub.com/articles/al-madrigal-on-why-he-abhors-macklemore-ryan-lewi,98825/
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link
The argument about his kids seems a little weak, of all the pop stars out there I don't think Macklemore is the one that's going to corrupt his heretofore innocent children.
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 05:32 (ten years ago) link
I have had pretty much the same experience as this dude, particularly with the roomful of neighborhood kids all rapping along and saying "Pissssssssssss".
Also, my kid had apparently been listening to Poker Face on the radio the other day because he asked me to explain "bluffin' with my muffin".
― how's life, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 09:39 (ten years ago) link
yeah i mean rappers introducing kids to dirty words is not really a unique concept, i don't think he's really saying it is, just that that song was his experience and he hates the song for it. w/ "thrift shop" i suppose it's arguably more insidious because it's this fun song about funny clothes and it's slightly more relateable to little kids that the avg rap hit.
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 11:24 (ten years ago) link
I mean, that's exactly it. This is just the 2010s version of 80s kids asking their parents what an aphrodesiac is after hearing Funky Cold Medina.
― how's life, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 12:13 (ten years ago) link
Dad, what does he mean "that's what happens when bodies start slappin' from doin' the wild thing"?
― how's life, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link
Except that Macklemore is worse than Tone Loc for any possible reason you could come up with.
― how's life, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 12:20 (ten years ago) link
along these lines, it cracked me up that "Afternoon Delight" was an AM easy listening staple when I was younger once I was old enough to get the lyrics
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
all the articles critical of "same love" i have seen are completely filled w/ comments by ppl defending it, claiming the author of the piece is stupid or ignorant or a bad writer (the latter always cracks me up b/c the comments are not very well written themselves), etc. :\\\\\
― dyl, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link
Indeed. Karen Tongson, who wrote the (quite excellent) article the Rev linked a few posts back, put up a response on FB about that kind of reaction.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
to me i think its a weird/cool sign of progress that the al madrigal thing is a mexican american dad kvetching over raunchy lyrics by a white rapper
― http://threeframes.net (gr8080), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:08 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
like all children, i assume, i thought afternoon delight was about spaceships
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
I wondered why my mom would giggle when I sang along and refused to harmonize with me; later on, I looked back on that decision and realized exactly how wise my mother actually was.
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link
Thanks, Daniel Stern.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
I agree w/Karen Tongston & I know what she's saying but I gave a big involuntary privileged eyeroll to "CHANGE HETEROSEXUALITY"
― ttyih boi (crüt), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
I think I've posted this elsewhere, but when he was 4 or 5, one of my kid's favorite songs was 3 by Britney Spears. I mean, it really has a certain appeal for people with rudimentary math skills.
― how's life, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
Crut, I wanted a further elaboration on that as well.
― how's life, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
"...dare to imagine beyond a certain kind of normativity, and challenge the power that adheres to these very categories"
Is this part, which directly follows "Change Heterosexuality", not a (brief) explanation of what she means?
― My god. Pure ideology. (ey), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
idk. it's probably best that I don't explain why that rubbed me the wrong way because it's not really relevant that it rubbed me the wrong way.
― ttyih boi (crüt), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link
That isn't really an explanation, imo.
― how's life, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link
But also know, the phrase itself didn't rub me the wrong way. Just that she didn't explain it.
― how's life, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link
Same Love is #7 on Billboard's R&B/Hip-Hop Chart and rising. I'm preparing myself now for all the think pieces about ~What It Means For Hip-Hop~.
― Greer, Saturday, 22 June 2013 02:38 (ten years ago) link
you're literally a year too late for that
― some dude, Saturday, 22 June 2013 02:55 (ten years ago) link
Before the chatter was about whether hip-hop was finally ready or whatever, and mostly about patting Macklemore on the back for his daring, but at the time the song wasn't actually making any waves in hip-hop or having any notable impact on hip-hop charts or radio. Whereas now (according to the way Billboard does the charts at least), the song is actually doing something, which could inspire another wave of navel gazing. Now that I check, it's not just rising on those chart's either. It gained a new peak on the Hot 100 too, is rising on itunes and is building on radio. It could become a legitimate hit, which is what it hadn't really been up to this point, despite being a much discussed song.
― Greer, Saturday, 22 June 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
The 'daring' there should be in massive sarcasm quotes.
It's completely inescapable here right now :|
― The Reverend, Saturday, 22 June 2013 03:17 (ten years ago) link
rising on the hot 100 = rising on r&b/hip-hop songs now, btw. the data used in both charts is now compiled in exactly the same way so they don't really represent anything different w/r/t audience anymore.
but yeah i am hearing the song on the radio more now and i have to bite my tongue in the car while my friends all praise it
― dyl, Saturday, 22 June 2013 09:39 (ten years ago) link
about 5 of my friends seem to post this on FB every two weeks.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 23 June 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link
heard this on the radio today, it made me cry, omg i love weddings
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Sunday, 23 June 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link
the more i listen to it the more i can feel my support for gay men pulsating
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Sunday, 23 June 2013 00:52 (ten years ago) link
there's a man on the radio saying "if i were gay", omg i love 2013 so much thanks obama!!
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Sunday, 23 June 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:40 PM Bookmark
qft
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 23 June 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link
does anyone else listen to this song and just poop their pants
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Sunday, 23 June 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link
i played this song for my gay teacher and he started crying and i started crying and the whole class started crying and applauding me and my bravery and that's when the soviets finally attacked
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Sunday, 23 June 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link
when i grow up i want macklemore to eat my asshole
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Sunday, 23 June 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link
i think the level of hate being evinced for guy is kinda sad tbh― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp)
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp)
i agree, the guy's not a great rapper or even a good one but his songs are catchy as hell. (i remember saying the same thing about jay-z at one point)
i have never heard "same love" but i read the lyrics and they seem pretty on-point for a chart rapper. rev i would be v interested to read your takedown.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 23 June 2013 11:31 (ten years ago) link
haha i am realizing that if i like the hooks i should be praising ryan lewis? the guy looks like such an immense douche though. :(
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 23 June 2013 11:41 (ten years ago) link
i have never heard "same love" but i read the lyrics and they seem pretty on-point for a chart rapper.
It's a pretty corny song from a musical standpoint. But yeah, there's nothing wrong with the lyrics. I think there's a good argument that it would've been braver to have the hook sung by a dude.
― how's life, Sunday, 23 June 2013 12:07 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUw4Qh9uFK8
― some dude, Sunday, 23 June 2013 12:10 (ten years ago) link
O_O
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 23 June 2013 12:41 (ten years ago) link
emphasis on the content in parentheses
can i get a what what to these bitches from all of my uncles who don't love hoes, because they're homos
― some dude, Sunday, 23 June 2013 12:49 (ten years ago) link
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 23 June 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link
Neanderthal you laugh but that was a pretty uncontroversial opinion for awhile; i don't take any credit for its originality
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 23 June 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, June 23, 2013 7:31 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, June 23, 2013 7:41 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark
people upthread saying catchiness in music is unimportant made me wonder if i was reading an alternate universe ILM
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 23 June 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
it's making me wonder when the last time such an explicitly political protest song had some chart burn.
green day's politics are murky at best, and then We Are the World 25 or w/e?
― PappaWheelie on the zeitgeist (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 24 June 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link
Maybe Dixie Chicks' "Not Ready to Make Nice," which was 2006, but seems like an eon ago
― PappaWheelie on the zeitgeist (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 24 June 2013 12:19 (ten years ago) link
I'm not really familiar with the lyrics, but didn't Born This Way cover similar ground?
― how's life, Monday, 24 June 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link
The piano is playing "Waiting on the World to Change"
― billstevejim, Monday, 24 June 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
Or maybe it's "People Get Ready"
I think there's a good argument that it would've been braver to have the hook sung by a dude
how's life hates lesbians
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 24 June 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link
"Born This Way" > this > "Where is the Love"
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Monday, 24 June 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
http://www.shopworldph.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Jansport-Elefunk-Core-Series-Messenger-880x1024.jpg
― how's life, Monday, 24 June 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, June 23, 2013 2:25 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Oh I know, I was actually one of those folks in my early 20s! well except that I hated him outright so I could listen to backpackers rap about the filthiness of tap water and how the periodic table was dope
― Neanderthal, Monday, 24 June 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link
did you
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link
ok i figured it out, it was driving me nuts
"I Love College" by Asher Roth. it's in the same key and everything.
― billstevejim, Monday, 24 June 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
as for the content of the lyrics, i kinda don't care because he's a shitty boring rapper, although i'm sure this song will continue chart ascension throughout the next few weeks.
― billstevejim, Monday, 24 June 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
KROQ loves white rappers.
― billstevejim, Monday, 24 June 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link
I like Macklemore as a rapper, he sounds precocious
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 03:04 (ten years ago) link
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2006956/butt-head-slapping-beavis-o.gif
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 03:05 (ten years ago) link
he sounds precocious in the sense that he sounds like a self-impressed 15-year-old, which is not charming at all for a 30-year-old
― some dude, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link
that's just what being 30 is now right?
― Romantic style in da world (crüt), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 03:08 (ten years ago) link
Macklemore is usually posted by my friends on FB, followed by the phrase
"I DON'T EVEN USUALLY LIKE RAP, BUT...."
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 03:08 (ten years ago) link
haha yes I've experienced this.
― Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
Like a self-impressed kid is exactly what I was going for with precocious, yeah.
C'mon guys, you liked it when Kreayshawn did it. Or what about Kitty Pryde?
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 07:14 (ten years ago) link
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/the-kidz-bop-version-of-macklemores-thrift-shop-is-the-worst
Amazingly, as horrible as this is, it's more charming than the original
― big black nemesis, Puya chilensis (DJP), Monday, 8 July 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Sunday, 23 June 2013 00:59 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
slept on post imo
― the tune was space, Monday, 8 July 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
this dude's gonna sell out a third night at Key Arena tomorrow. sorry, Rev :(
― alpine static, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link
Macklemore must be stopped
― crüt, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
i heard this song on the radio the other day. its about respecting gay people. it's really bad
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link
and it's not really that respectful of gay people!
he could prob sell out a week's worth of key arena. surprised he didn't just go for safeco
― lady steendriver (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link
oh, I guess the shows are in december and safeco would be a less than ideal venue at that time of year. oh well, macklemore fans can freeze for all I care.
― lady steendriver (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link
I would be interested to hear some of the ways that the song is not respectful of gay people. Sincere query.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link
because the gay community is doesn't need some straight, white, over-smug clown in a Davy Crockett hat to protect them from the fact that 50 Cent says "faggot"
― bando brothers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
If you could poll "the gay community" on this song, what do you think the split would be as far as those who think it's cool and appreciate the message versus those who would prefer a rapper not cut a song supporting their cause and have it become a big hit?
― alpine static, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 02:04 (ten years ago) link
among people I know, it appears to be 70% positive, 30% negative
of the 70% positives, about 90% of them are white; of the 30% negatives, 90% of them are of color and/or ILXors
― "Post-Oven" (DJP), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 02:07 (ten years ago) link
ha
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 02:14 (ten years ago) link
"if i was gay, i would think hip hop hates me" is the point where i have to reach for the dial if even get that far
― dyl, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 04:26 (ten years ago) link
― bando brothers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:01 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
macklemore annoys me but like i dunno if smugness and whiteness should be attributes that preclude someone from recording a song that support's the gay community
i have a problem with "same love" not so much because of the gay stuff but moreso the race stuff
― monotony, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 04:50 (ten years ago) link
supports*** wow i am sleepy
― monotony, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 04:51 (ten years ago) link
omg i want to delete that post that apostrophe is so hideously ugly and egregious
"A culture founded from oppression/Yet we don't have acceptance for 'em" is an actual lyric in this song and neither of the cultures in question are his to lecture or speak for. This straight white guy is indicting and then lecturing all of hip-hop on behalf of gay people as if he has any idea what it's like to experience the oppression either group has faced.
― Greer, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 06:02 (ten years ago) link
http://distilleryimage2.ak.instagram.com/06746cb2f32011e297b922000a1fa527_7.jpg
― blatant marvin jack (jaymc), Monday, 22 July 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link
Insane Clown Posse dudes watch the "Can't Hold Us" video and coin the perfect nickname for Macklemore:
http://youtu.be/my9mjd0BTyY
― alpine static, Thursday, 25 July 2013 06:58 (ten years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, 25 July 2013 10:43 (ten years ago) link
You motherfucker
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
reminds me of all the old rolling stones and spins i stole from the library as a kid. that was fucking awesome.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
ow I just reflexively punched my monitor
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link
bring back dzhokar
― I tweeted too much and I am in jail. (crüt), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
oh no, not the biggest success story of the year
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
Had this horrible one second moment where I thought you were saying Dzhokar was the biggest success story of the year.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link
ctrl + f "mackleless" -- not found?!
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link
oh no, not the biggest success story of the year― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:40 AM
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:40 AM
― alpine static, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
meant to add something there, but forgot and now I think I should just not bother.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link
lol faec is hueg
― HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
Haggerty, a recovering alcoholic and drug addict, says that at one point he was so worried about being trivialized as "the 'Thrift Shop' guy" that his sobriety was at risk: "I went through a place of not being happy, getting put in the box of 'This is a novelty rap song,' and being like, 'What did I sign up for'?
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link
looking forward to his under the bridge
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
"I went through a place of not being happy, getting put in the box of 'This is a novelty rap song,' and being like, 'What did I sign up for'?
"Then I got my first royalty check."
― da croupier, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link
'i havent shopped at a thrift shop in a while'
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link
Well.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
Shouldn't he convince his listeners that to balance out systematic power, they would be doing a much better thing for the world by turning him off and listening to Kendrick Lamar?
lmao okay
sort of like the only way for macklemore to talk about homophobia in hip hop is to become both black and gay?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
I can't fucking deal with Rich Juzwiak at all any more. It takes a real piece of work to make Macklemore (talking race!) look like the good guy.
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
otm
― Coming Out Of Elton John's Mouth (crüt), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
is he a bad guy rev??
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
i mean maybe i missed it, inbetween the parts where he was talking specifics about how his skin color has smoothed a path to mainstream acceptance that a lot of other rappers don't have access to?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link
he's playing the minnesota state fair this year
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
is he opening for Depeche Mode?
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
You can shrug everything off by saying, "I'm a fucking human being," or you can actually be a fucking human being and use your fucking human being brain so that you become the change you say you wish for the world.
Had Juzwiak constructed his argument/objection to Macklemore wholly around this point, I might be nodding along in agreement right now, but this piece as a whole reads like such an inchoate screed that I can't help but assume (not having been following his writing on Macklemore) that Juzwaik is in some ongoing process of sniping at every little thing this guy does or says. Far more Mean Girls than thoughtful, reasoned takedown, basically.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:05 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:08 PM Bookmark
I don't have any issue with his statements quoted in the piece, no. But I do with some of his songs and with the way he's been received (although the latter is somewhat beyond his control, obviously). By the way, can we not do this "white person condescendingly asks black person to justify their frustrations about race" thing? Please.
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
But basically, my beef at the moment is with Juz, for taking people's legit arguments against Macklemore and distorting them into absurdity to attack a fairly on-point statement because he doesn't leak either Macklemore or the people originating those arguments.
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link
doesn't like*
And people who get all defensive when confronted with privilege theory get the side-eye in general.
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
when you get to the point where the only course of action you'd accept from a musician is that they stop making music and repent all past works, it's probably time to stop writing about them.
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
I listened to Nardwuar's 2011 interview with Macklemoo. It was striking how much he didn't know about hip-hop dudes from Seattle, even dudes that he apparently namechecks in his songs. I don't know how common it is for rap mans to not know shit about dudes they give shout-outs and props to.
― how's life, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
i'm really sorry that i came off condescending. i respect the hell out of your take on things and it's frustrating for ME not to know what they are. i've asked you before in this thread what your beef is with this guy (i don't think you got back to me though)
rev i would be v interested to read your takedown.― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, June 23, 2013 12:31 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, June 23, 2013 12:31 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think i was surprised by you insinuating that macklemore is a "bad guy" specifically w/r/t to that piece because his quotes in that piece are like, reading from the hymn book of what you need to say if you're a successful white pop rapper.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
(above post to the rev, obv)
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
but really genuinely - really not trying to pry some kind of justification out of you. there IS something immediately skeevy about the guy, like just visually (and don't even get me started on ryan lewis... *brrrr*). then again i felt the same way about rafael nadal and now i love him.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link
rev i would be v interested to read your takedown.
Yeah, I meant to address this but I didn't have time or energy when you asked and never got back around to it. Gonna grab some lunch right now but I'll get back to you later.
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
haha no sweat!! sorry for snark.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link
man that's a late lunch even for your time zone. don't mess with hungry rev.
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
My major problem with him and not his music is he clearly demonstrates an understanding of how his race positions him as a pop rapper and how he is received because of it, which is a great first step, but it's still just the first step. I don't see him doing anything to actively undermine the fucked up perceptions people have about him, what he's doing as a rapper and how that relates to what other rappers are doing or rap as a whole. That these perceptions benefit him just reads like him talking a good game about privilege while still fully taking advantage of it. Like, has he ever really pushed back against the perception of him as the lone rapper willing to positively discuss homosexuality in his music? Or is he content to milk that while actual gay rappers are paid no mind? It feels like the latter.
― Greer, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link
― how's life, Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:52 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah one of the things thats kinda funny abt him is his heartfelt apologies and soul searching on behalf of 'rap music' except that hes not really part of the rap music that hes apologizing for, he came up through this separate frat rap/undie silo, its kinda like some indie rock dude apologizing for a metal band or w/e
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link
its kinda funny tho everyone putting their cases together for why he is so bad and hated
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
he is so horrible there must be a rational explination
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link
its also kinda funny how a guy with literally a song called white privilege is getting accused of white privilege stuff, its tuff out there for the wite man
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
to be fair his song called white privilege is fucking terrible
― fuck your movie theater yacht (zachlyon), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link
all of his songs are terrible
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link
well all his music is terrible which is a major issue here
― Hooks on Phoenix worked for me (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link
― Hooks on Phoenix worked for me (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link
My major problem with him and not his music is he clearly demonstrates an understanding of how his race positions him as a pop rapper and how he is received because of it, which is a great first step, but it's still just the first step.
haha in Chris Heath's Pet Shop Boys book Neil Tennant gets sneery at boy bands like Bros who go on and on about 'longevity' as a concept: holding the right attitudes and hiring the right agents to stay in the biz; their music, such as it is, gets subsumed by surviving and staying in the biz.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link
Greer: I'm p sure that's part of the point Juzwiak is trying to make, but he does it in a way that's so backhanded to the rest of the people who care about this stuff that I can't even countenance his argument.
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:13 (ten years ago) link
Tracer: I have a really long half-written post that I'll try to finish later tonight. That's probably why I haven't explained myself well before is because my thoughts on this matter are so lengthy.
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link
yes!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link
kick in the door waivin' the fourfour
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link
does living in Washington make the Macklemore phenomenon more unbearable, or does it make u slightly more sympathetic to him/his fans than you would be otherwise? or both?
― Coming Out Of Elton John's Mouth (crüt), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:33 (ten years ago) link
that's a general question to anyone who lives in the pacific nw really - I'm just curious about what it's like living there and experiencing this whole thing, I imagine it's p different from atlanta
― Coming Out Of Elton John's Mouth (crüt), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
both probably? I'll have more to say about this later the weird thing about Macklemore's place in the current landscape here is that the Seattle rap scene is really healthy and diverse right now but Mack is kind of a relic of a previous era. A lot of the young rappers in Seattle are quite explicit about not fucking with Macklemore but most of the people who came up in the early/mid-2000s are his peers and have his back 100%.
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link
haha, they're the dudes he used to open for, basically
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:29 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not gonna let this post go unacknowledged
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:45 (ten years ago) link
XD
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link
haven't read the gawker piece but i gave up on juzwiak a while ago
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link
The only valuable thing he's done in the past couple years is the glossary of Mariah-isms.
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:02 (ten years ago) link
i still ride for for Def Juz
― i'm walter white btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link
i have no problem with him but since getting w/ Gawker he writes about a lot less stuff that interests me and seems to write a lot more that actively pisses off other people for various reasons
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:55 (ten years ago) link
He has better taste in dance music than anyone else. I don't really care what he thinks about Macklemore. I don't really care what anyone thinks about Macklemore.
― Boven is het stil (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link
no wait just hear me out
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:03 (ten years ago) link
He has better taste in dance music than anyone else.
*recoils sharply*
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I still remember that argument too.
― Boven is het stil (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:40 (ten years ago) link
i still like rjuz but he def seems to have gotten a lil more bitter at how ppl lash out at him. which, i dunno, i see as kind of understandable
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 04:04 (ten years ago) link
I've been a fan of his writing in the past--his Pazz & Jop essay on pop's pandering to gay audiences in the It Gets Better era is essential--but he seems to write a lot about things like reality television that no amount of good writing could possibly force me to care about.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 04:16 (ten years ago) link
For a second I was all "I cannot imagine Macklemore's Pazz and Jop essay being all THAT essential."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 04:18 (ten years ago) link
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:01 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark
lol.
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 04:21 (ten years ago) link
rj is consistently really just missing basic facts when it comes to race/history/etc. i pointed this out before but in his django piece he referred to a 'dictator of barbados' in the 20th century, which is among other things not true. i don't want to dredge up old shit but this pattern has been going on forever. i understand why people can enjoy his writing at times or whatever, but he just needs to stay the hell away from topics that he's not going to put in the time to engage with properly.
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
That clearly doesn't apply to his columns about his sex life.
― Boven is het stil (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
dude wants to land on the right side, but somehow doesn't put in the work to understand exactly what that side is. there's something knee-jerk about it.
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:39 (ten years ago) link
tumblr outrage point has finally reached the tipping point on ILX
― i'm walter white btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
tumblr outrage porn has finally reached the tipping point on ILX
tumblr outrage point has finally reached the tipping porn on ILX
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
porn has finally reached ILX
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link
privilege tipping outrage porn
ILX
― how's life, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
*farts*
― waterface, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link
your back!
http://static4.depositphotos.com/1000746/307/i/450/dep_3071716-Water-flowing-on-woman-face.jpg
― how's life, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
That's one wet fart.
― Boven is het stil (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
does living in Washington make the Macklemore phenomenon more unbearable, or does it make u slightly more sympathetic to him/his fans than you would be otherwise?
― Coming Out Of Elton John's Mouth (crüt)
the latter, oddly. i end up thinking about place more than race, draw my mixalot parallels in my mind
― anky, Thursday, 22 August 2013 06:55 (ten years ago) link
more like mackleless
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
http://colorlines.com/archival_images/le1f03.jpg
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link
i'm all for le1f going after this dude but thought it was weird he accused him of ripping off his song, i guess referring to the horn samples in wut and thrift shop?
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
http://colorlines.com/archival_mages/le1f06.jpg
youtube comments
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
kinda weird le1f is just getting around to this now, but i support it
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
Ehhh. I'm with Le1f on most of this, but not the Thrift Shop/Wut thing. The horns from "Wut" were p much ripped off from "Down for My N's" anyway.
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
Speaking of Mix, this is a really good interview with him wkiw http://mynorthwest.com/926/2321465/Macklemore-video-shoot-mania-rekindles-fond-memories-for-Seattles-Sir-MixALot
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/a6b3d7c369fdbbaa8a72f2e007972703/tumblr_ms7iawjESv1sgt1uko1_1280.png
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:11 (ten years ago) link
(btw sorry, Rev's Big Post of Macklemore Ether is still forthcoming)
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link
naaw xp
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link
FUCK YOU LAGOON, MACKLEMORE IS THE NEW MLK PUBLIC ENEMY SHOULD WRITE A SONG ABOUT ANY STATE THAT HOLDS OUT ON MACKLEMORE DAY
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:14 (ten years ago) link
what i meant was macklemore is obvs more important than mlk and public enemy should write a song about any state that holds out on macklemore day
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:17 (ten years ago) link
i googled and found out that that is an irl student newspaper but i still cant believe the author really meant it
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link
― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:11 PM (7 minutes ago)
ban college kids
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link
its just a funny joke right
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link
I know we hate Macklemore around here, but dude/his handlers do seem to have gotten the message at least a little bit: at several points during his VMA performance, he ceded the stage to his LGBT backup dancers, Black backup singers, and the former software engineer who sings the hooks on Thrift Shop and Can't Hold Us.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 01:34 (ten years ago) link
I mean of course Le1f is right, esp. about the line he quotes from Same Love. And maybe the only reason Macklemore got off the stage was so he could better commune with his audience. Still I will acknowledge this token effort to address the concerns of his progressive critics.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link
Watching the VMA performance was like watching Sulu on Star Trek: maybe in the eyes of most of the audience, Kirk/Macklemore are the heroes, but Takei/Wanz are proceeding as if they are the protagonists.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link
wonder what takei's paycheck looked like next to nimoy's
― fuck your movie theater yacht (zachlyon), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link
or shatner's
― fuck your movie theater yacht (zachlyon), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 01:45 (ten years ago) link
or doohan's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8PLifPUIuic
― alpine static, Monday, 9 September 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
aw man, what'd i do wrong
http://youtu.be/8PLifPUIuic
― alpine static, Monday, 9 September 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
welp, that's all i've got
Crapplesnore.
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 9 September 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link
Santiago Caro 29 minutes agoThis video has a MEANING! PAY ATTENTION!! to the LYRICS and the VIDEO. He is criticizing trend. what is supposed to be NEW and what is supposed to be OLD influenced by the labels, industry, Media, music (that's why appears Sir Mix a Lot a rapper from the 90's, and OLD ladys) Also supporting an interracial society, thats why he is wearing mexican clothes, and (sorry for the word) black men loving white old chicks. Macklemore talks about REAL LIFE, also my respect to Ryan Lewis, What a good BEAT! Reply · 5
― Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link
santiago caro otm
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 03:56 (ten years ago) link
that's a really well-produced song, shame about the macklemore
― Vinetalic - "My Friend Terio" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 04:18 (ten years ago) link
is 'santiago caro' lefsetz' twitter name or something
― alpine static, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 07:12 (ten years ago) link
i hope this song goes #1 on the charts so billboard can write a headline like "Macklemore & Ryan Lewis erect 'White Walls' around Hot 100 penthouse"
― dyl, Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link
to be fair i do like the production and consequently it is the first macklemore song that does not inspire me to instantly switch the station. it would be better as an instrumental but w/e
― dyl, Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QtlNq-K9_s
― da croupier, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link
Macklemore is the first contextually post-black pop-star rapper.
― mick signals, Friday, 15 November 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
was waiting for this
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
me too and then I stopped waiting
― mick signals, Friday, 15 November 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link
i think the point is kinda getting bastardized on twitter, imo all he's saying is that macklemore's the first huge rapper whose music is targeted strictly at white listeners. which is true.
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link
maybe the sentence is easier to parse for music nerds who follow the charts closely and are aware that black artists very rarely breaks into, like, the top 10? idk
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
yeah people are def misconstruing that but its ok cause he also called macklemore 'a good rapper' in the same piece
― lag∞n, Friday, 15 November 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
macklemore's the first huge rapper whose music is targeted strictly at white listeners. which is true.
Did 1999 not happen?
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
who was in 1999
― lag∞n, Friday, 15 November 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link
are you talking about eminem?
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
shawn mullins technically isn't a "rapper"
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
tbf post-black is a pretty provocative and vague way to phrase it
― lag∞n, Friday, 15 November 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
i think the thing that ppl on twitter are missing about this is the word "contextually" ... plenty of writers have made the case for pop in 2013 -- the context around macklemore -- being "post-black."
there was nothing "post-black" at all about pop when eminem came up. or in a more granular sense about eminem at all, who came up thru battle rap culture in detroit and who was surrounded by/collaborated with black rappers and producers.
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link
and his music was enjoyed by many black people
― lag∞n, Friday, 15 November 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
tho not so much anymore id imagine
― lag∞n, Friday, 15 November 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link
has eminem become post black
free thinkpiece you guys
Was actually thinking more along the lines of ICP, but we could of course keep moving these goal posts till the gays get married.
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
ICP was never really Macklemore huge, though
― guitar is coffee (DJP), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
there has def been rap for and by wites its just never been #1 chart material before
xp
― lag∞n, Friday, 15 November 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
its crazy how anticonesque he is, bet its got some retired beardo rappers feeling sort of self conscious right now
― lag∞n, Friday, 15 November 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
not that they werent self conscious already right folks
― lag∞n, Friday, 15 November 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
yeah "pop-star rapper" is a key part of that sentence
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
I missed a lot of these asterisks. Because I didn't read the article. ._.
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
the thing that I learned in that piece tho that I feel shd be getting more attention is that he has a malcolm gladwell inspired song '10000 hours' when is the ted talk human civilization is useless mistake
― lag∞n, Friday, 15 November 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
I'm sat here wondering what "post-black" means in this or any context really. If he just means that Macklemeh's fanbase is mostly white as a deliberate marketing choice on his part, then that's still an odd word to use to describe that.
― Greer, Friday, 15 November 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
I've seen the term around, but only in the context that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-black_art has:
In 2001 the phrase was explained in detail in the exhibition catalogue for The Studio Museum in Harlem’s exhibition entitled "Freestyle." Freestyle was an exhibition that included twenty-eight up and coming artists of African American backgrounds. Golden defined post-black art as that which includes artists who are “adamant about not being labeled ‘black’ artists, though their work was steeped, in fact deeply interested, in redefining complex notions of blackness.”
― mick signals, Friday, 15 November 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link
Jon Caramanica @joncaramanica 1h
Sigh. It's not a compliment - it's a warning.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
― Greer, Friday, November 15, 2013 3:23 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark
i think he's calling pop music "post-black" which Itunes, Billboard, and the marginalization of black music and black audiences in America
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
I feared as much.
― Greer, Friday, 15 November 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
I don't know Caramanica but I bet, like most critics of his generation, there's a couple of hundred black MCs he prefers to Macklemore. People are acting like his message is "Hooray, it's whitey's turn!"
I'd like to read someone good taking a big-picture look at all the themes that have been going around ILX this year re: the Billboard charts, Lorde, Macklemore, etc. Black artists do seem to be on the back foot suddenly and that's weird and surprising. It's not quite Disco Sucks redux but there's an element of that.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
People are acting like his message is "Hooray, it's whitey's turn!"
this is sort of the subtext!
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
i mean seriously like every single macklemore song is essentially "rappers are this way, but i'm THAT way!"
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
rappers are materialistic, i'm notrappers are homophobic, i'm notrappers do drugs and drink, i don't
etc
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link
<q>Lorde, Macklemore, etc. </q>
Lily Allen if there was ever a chance on earth she would chart a single in america
― imago-er not a show-er (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, Macklemore fans have the smugness of Decemberists fans but instead of feeling superior to people that didn;t graduate college, it's feeling superior to black culture
― imago-er not a show-er (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link
xp No, I mean Caramanica's message, not Macklemore's. I hate Macklemore.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
I almost posted my interpretation of Macklemore doing a verse of "I Don't Like", what the fuck has become of my life
― guitar is coffee (DJP), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
oh ok xp
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
I am going to see macklemore tomorrow apparently
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
i had a good time at the show
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
I will post if I end up seeing him but I have no idea what's going on he's not even on the west coast apparently but someone yesterday told me I'm going to see macklemore tomorrow?
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
while i get what he's saying, "post-black" is a gross, horrible way to say it.
― da croupier, Friday, 15 November 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link
whether or not he means them, using it in a music review suggests all kinds of connotations of "black" being an event, a genre, something that can be built off of or moved beyond - which, personally, isn't a road i wanna get near
― da croupier, Friday, 15 November 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link
and before someone says "well of COURSE he doesn't mean it as a GENRE!" the guy wrote a piece about Robin Thicke's place in the genre of "white-soul" earlier this year.
― da croupier, Friday, 15 November 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link
actually, that he refers to macklemore as a "contextually post-black rapper" rather than treating "white rap" as a genre the way he treats "white soul," suggests he's really underthought his short-hand for the subject matter he wants to cover. so if he gets shit from people who don't want to give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he should be a better writer.
― da croupier, Friday, 15 November 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link
or it suggests his hyphens are in the wrong places.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link
holding out for "post-macklemore"
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
post-more
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link
Lemme just thank everyone ever for not referring to pat Boone as "contextually post-black"
― da croupier, Friday, 15 November 2013 22:48 (ten years ago) link
"post-black" as a shorthand for Macklemore makes perfect sense to me
i.e.,
Unless you're a Ron Paul supporter, it should go without saying the USA's treatment of African-Americans in this country for the last, oh, 400 years has been notably shitty, right up to 2013: Job inequality is still in effect, the judicial system is still stacked, wealth distribution is fucked, and in Florida, Detroit and "stand your ground" states it's practically legal to shoot black people.
Hip-hop music — while not a cipher for the African-American experience, don;'t get it twisted — is easily the most popular art form invented and performed primarily by African-Americans in the last 40 years. That cannot be disputed.
It the 1970s it sprouted from a community that literally had nothing, which is why the instruments were other people's records. In turn, even 40 years later, America is still fucked up and rap music made by African-Americans often — implicitly or quite explicitly — reflects this fucked-up state, whether vivid tales of the neighborhoods the evening news doesn't show (Kendrick Lamar, Ice T) or mythical tales of crime (Jay Z, E-40) or simply aspirational (every time i come into your city bling bling).
White teenagers, of course, are drawn to alienation and angst (what do you think fuels heavy metal, punk, and other predominately white, teenage music forms?). HOWEVER, every time white people rapped, they tried to emulate SOMETHING in hip-hop, whether that means copped some of the slang (Marky Mark) or the back stories (Vanilla Ice) or the tales of violence (Beastie Boys) or the swagger (Eminem) or the fashion (Slim Thug) or went extra steps to show they respected the culture (3rd Bass)
Macklemore is the first popular rapper to not only be AWARE of his white privilege ("White Privilege"), but to take the extra, disgusting step and ignore it entirely.
― imago-er not a show-er (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 16 November 2013 00:31 (ten years ago) link
And, in turn, a white dude who went to a liberal arts college is out here preaching that every black person in America should be more like Fugazi. Fuck him.
― imago-er not a show-er (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 16 November 2013 00:33 (ten years ago) link
to me "post-black" means "post- having to ever acknowledge the history and culture and contributions of African-Americans" which, yes, he is the first popular rapper to do
― imago-er not a show-er (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 16 November 2013 00:35 (ten years ago) link
wow i get what he means but how do you ever think that's a good way to put it?! you can't treat people's identities like they're made-up genre names
― lex pretend, Saturday, 16 November 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link
the reason i brought up Pat Boone is that, despite the fact that Boone divorced "black" music from its roots and sold it to white audiences just as much as macklemore has, no one would ever call him "contextually post-black" today because it would be weird to describe a white dude awkwardly singing "tutti frutti" 50+ years ago as being "post-" such an amorphous phrase as "black," the concept of which as a music has evolved plenty since. while not a compliment per se, calling someone "contextually post-black" suggests a detached perspective where "black" is not an ethnic identity, but a style or event that can be built upon or evolved from, like "punk" or "rock." It takes the already sketchy notion of slapping an ethnicity in front of a musical style - "blue-eyed soul," for instance, and takes it a toxic step further, suggesting not just that you can make a style you're own simply by being a different ethnicity than its originators, but that you can TRANSCEND the ethnicity of the originators.
Upthread, there's a reference to the term being used to describe African-American artists who utilize familiar "black" concepts but don't want them to be labeled as such. While we can debate whether that's a worthwhile way to phrase that intention, a white critic using "post-black" as a way to describe someone you think has divorced a "black" sound from its roots is at best cynical and at worst supremacist.
― da croupier, Saturday, 16 November 2013 01:13 (ten years ago) link
in a sense, it IS a compliment because it suggests evolution rather than carpetbagging
― da croupier, Saturday, 16 November 2013 01:16 (ten years ago) link
I think we can all agree that when we see "neo" or "post" as a prefix we should reach for our keyboards.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 November 2013 02:45 (ten years ago) link
whether it's neoliberal or neoconservative or post-black these terms ask for trouble because their users plead for our forbearance, i.e. "this is how I'm different but for safety's sake I'm gonna keep a couple of fingers on the root form of this word."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 November 2013 02:46 (ten years ago) link
i'm really confused, did Whiney call Slim Thug white?
― some dude, Saturday, 16 November 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link
haha i thought the same thing, maybe wgw is leaking industry secrets.
― shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Saturday, 16 November 2013 03:36 (ten years ago) link
Hahaha, I meant Paul Wall
#controversysells
― imago-er not a show-er (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 16 November 2013 03:41 (ten years ago) link
I read that Slim Thug wrote "Like a Boss" and assumed he was in Lonely Island.
― imago-er not a show-er (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 16 November 2013 03:44 (ten years ago) link
lol man I read that post like four times front to back trying to figure out if it was real or not based on that one single misstep.
― Spottie, Saturday, 16 November 2013 03:46 (ten years ago) link
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 16 November 2013 03:58 (ten years ago) link
i google image searched Slim Thug to see if there was another Slim Thug i wasn't aware of
― alpine static, Saturday, 16 November 2013 06:49 (ten years ago) link
But of course!
http://gawker.com/sharkfacegang-1465744396
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 November 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
lol at their nice young man practiced smiles
― lag∞n, Saturday, 16 November 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
i don't think they have to practice, they really are nice young men!
― some dude, Saturday, 16 November 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, November 15, 2013 3:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i kinda want to compile some kind of anthology of how white underground rap message board dudes have reacted to Macklemore's success, has to be fascinating/hilarious. ICP's review of his video was pretty classic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my9mjd0BTyY
― some dude, Saturday, 16 November 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
those smiles looked pretty practiced tho u must admit, which is something nice young men do, macklemore obvs more successful than ryan lewis in this case, ten thousand hours and all
― lag∞n, Saturday, 16 November 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
i saw SHARK FACE GANG shirts at his show but idgi... is it cuz macklemore looks like a shark? cuz i could see that
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 16 November 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
http://pixarne.ws/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/cfa93438511db9e60b63708e36e4230a.jpg
― lag∞n, Saturday, 16 November 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
http://edge-img.datpiff.com/m8deca0c/Jay-White_Great_Mixtape-front-large.jpg
― imago-er not a show-er (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 16 November 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/7Ve9sB9.png
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
like macklemore and ryan lewis needed an extra $15
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
― Noodzilla (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
― deez the season (some dude), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
― Al He Miola (Spottie), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link
http://www.bet.com/shows/106-and-park/photos/the-buzz/2014/01/the-buzz-drake-covers-kanye-beyonce-ousted-and-more/_jcr_content/leftcol/flipbook/flipbookimage_5.flipfeature.dimg/010714-macklemore-the-source-magazine-cover.jpghttp://mburgan.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/mugshot__malcolm-x.jpg
No comment.
― Emined - FAP God (The Reverend), Monday, 13 January 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link
"American Hustle"
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Monday, 13 January 2014 19:34 (ten years ago) link
Well, there's at least one song worse than "Same Love" now. If only just one.
http://www.towleroad.com/2014/01/bizzle.html
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Friday, 31 January 2014 15:12 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/yyYP1D9.png
― lag∞n, Monday, 3 February 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link
― Spottie, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/uNA12eE.png
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 04:25 (ten years ago) link
― worthless lucubrations w/ ill-concealed apathy bro (zachlyon), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 04:33 (ten years ago) link
i almost geek out over seeing hanstock in the wild but i guess he's known cause sports
― worthless lucubrations w/ ill-concealed apathy bro (zachlyon), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 04:35 (ten years ago) link
https://31.media.tumblr.com/1b2c9bbff016f259409f14e8542c5340/tumblr_n123hr5fKB1qf7zwoo1_500.png
― imago draggin' (The Reverend), Friday, 21 February 2014 20:08 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP1I3_Vi2ds
― imago draggin' (The Reverend), Friday, 21 February 2014 20:09 (ten years ago) link
Nitpicking here because I get the point but why is Eminem in that collage?
― Murgatroid, Friday, 21 February 2014 20:11 (ten years ago) link
beats me
― imago draggin' (The Reverend), Friday, 21 February 2014 20:16 (ten years ago) link
because he's a rapper who has a mug shot?
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Friday, 21 February 2014 20:23 (ten years ago) link
eminem's origins relevantly different from an evergreen b.a. i guess
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 21 February 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link
(if not his appearance)
who's top left guy in that collage
― AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 21 February 2014 22:32 (ten years ago) link
Boosie
― Spottie, Friday, 21 February 2014 22:42 (ten years ago) link
some of those pictures are super squished up
― lag∞n, Saturday, 22 February 2014 01:49 (ten years ago) link
thought i cld find one of the guys from the collage posing with police but i cld not (except maklemore)
― lag∞n, Saturday, 22 February 2014 02:11 (ten years ago) link
i mean snoop dogg mustve posed for photos w like half the human race at this point
― lag∞n, Saturday, 22 February 2014 02:13 (ten years ago) link
one thing you can rely on tho juicee k doesnt snitch
― lag∞n, Saturday, 22 February 2014 02:34 (ten years ago) link
― Murgatroid, Saturday, February 22, 2014 4:11 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
Even the other famous white rapper has gotten arrested by police?
― 龜, Saturday, 22 February 2014 02:51 (ten years ago) link
https://31.media.tumblr.com/2df74b03f539df02b952e68280430799/tumblr_n1fin4kjfU1r7aucxo3_500.png
― AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 24 February 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15qc3_joy5A
― Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Monday, 24 February 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBqD9ut8kP4
― Eric H., Monday, 24 February 2014 16:28 (ten years ago) link
Oh...dear. As someone else put it on Twitter:
"Macklemore recorded a song about putting the seat down after you pee in a fake Jamaican accent today"
http://instagram.com/p/lcsYsJwK59
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link
SHUT UP MACKLEMORE
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 17:49 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/TwHFmYF.png
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 17:51 (ten years ago) link
anybody interested in a pair of Macklemore Jordans?http://instagram.com/p/m_CuzjQKzD/embed/
― IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 15:06 (ten years ago) link
http://instagram.com/p/m_CuzjQKzD/
Fifty dollars for a T-shirt that's just some ignorant bitch shit / $100 for some shoes? "Never dreamed I'd have an opportunity like this"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link
Macklemore had the chance to design a pair of Jordans and he came up with this Pepto-Bismol colored monstrosity? Seems fitting.
― voodoo chili, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
Uh.
https://twitter.com/pushinghoops/status/468174751555661824
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 May 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link
https://t.co/BnR2wcmVIY
this fucking goy
― some dude, Monday, 19 May 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link
my nose is big, i'm not ashamedbig like a pickle, I'm still gettin' paid
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 19 May 2014 00:14 (nine years ago) link
i saw this jackhole on a tv commercial last night, truly these are the last days
― brimstead, Monday, 19 May 2014 00:22 (nine years ago) link
so is that it for this dude's career? this is like...extreme
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 19 May 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link
ahaha you have too much faith in humanity
― The Reverend, Monday, 19 May 2014 01:02 (nine years ago) link
I know :(
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 19 May 2014 01:09 (nine years ago) link
ashwin @shwinyo 3h
@pushinghoops it's fine in the third grade he thought he was jewish
― put that brick @ u face (een), Monday, 19 May 2014 02:43 (nine years ago) link
whoa.
― smhphony orchestra (crüt), Monday, 19 May 2014 03:16 (nine years ago) link
if i was jewish I would swear hip-hop wanted me to represent them in a court of law
― grindie cindy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 19 May 2014 03:18 (nine years ago) link
the only good thing to come out of this is the return of my favorite twitter personality, topical voldemort.
― funny unconscious rocks creating your consciousness with free choice (reddening), Monday, 19 May 2014 08:16 (nine years ago) link
this guy is hopeless
i bet he has some latin homies too, i guess at his next concert he's going to paint his face and dress like a cholo
― display name changed. (amateurist), Monday, 19 May 2014 09:07 (nine years ago) link
uhhhhh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PLifPUIuic&feature=kp
― The Reverend, Monday, 19 May 2014 09:25 (nine years ago) link
fuck that is terrible
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 19 May 2014 11:52 (nine years ago) link
put that brick @ u face (een)Posted: May 19, 2014 at 2:43:38 AMashwin @shwinyo 3h
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 May 2014 11:58 (nine years ago) link
in third grade i thought i was jewish cause i liked to hang out with my family on saturdays
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 May 2014 12:02 (nine years ago) link
I blew some minds in first grade telling people that my family celebrated Christmas and Hannukah after my parents bought me a dreidel and we gambled for M&Ms.
― how's life, Monday, 19 May 2014 12:07 (nine years ago) link
It got back to my parents at one point, so novel was the idea.
― how's life, Monday, 19 May 2014 12:09 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/y36ayDB.png
― 龜, Monday, 19 May 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link
solid defense
― smhphony orchestra (crüt), Monday, 19 May 2014 12:41 (nine years ago) link
white walls is my favorite macklemore song
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 19 May 2014 12:46 (nine years ago) link
dying at some dude and Whiney
Macklemore is the worst, has always been the worst, and probably only has to offend 3 or 4 more large groups of people before people start liking him because he's such a bad boy
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Monday, 19 May 2014 13:31 (nine years ago) link
the Seattle Weekly blog post on this is hilariously pathetic: http://www.seattleweekly.com/home/952577-129/surprise-surprise-macklemore-in-disguise-at
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Monday, 19 May 2014 13:41 (nine years ago) link
OTOH lol Seth Rogan: https://twitter.com/Sethrogen/statuses/468132181517152257
stopping now
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Monday, 19 May 2014 13:43 (nine years ago) link
really shocking that Macklemore fans in the town that race-baited Big Freedia at a Postal Service concert don't understand the nuances of stereotypes
― grindie cindy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 19 May 2014 13:52 (nine years ago) link
possibly my favorite usage of the word "nuance" in 2014
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Monday, 19 May 2014 13:55 (nine years ago) link
The gap is narrowing between this dude and Mr. Six.
― how's life, Monday, 19 May 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link
going w "fuck that is terrible" as a sort of catch-all
― katsu kittens (contenderizer), Monday, 19 May 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis stopped by with Wanz in tow to perform “Thrift Shop” and “Can’t Hold Us” with all the energy that we’ve come to know and love from the world-traveling duo. Big fans and first-timers alike were jumping up and down with hands raised as Macklemore took that signature leap into the audience and they hold him up like it was his very own human runway. It’s incredible to watch and he obviously loved every minute of it.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 May 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link
he certainly looked like he was enjoying himself
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Everyone%20Else/images-2/greedy-jewish-person-cartoon.jpg
― grindie cindy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 19 May 2014 14:09 (nine years ago) link
His defense should be that he found his entire outfit at a thrift store
― 龜, Monday, 19 May 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link
not sure EMP can survive this indignity
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 May 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link
Apparently he was a little worried about being mobbed, after all he is a big part of the new video exhibit at the EMP, because he came on stage and continued a majority of his show, with a wig, beard, and false nose adhered not-so-securely to his face (by the end of his 15 minute set he looked a little like he was melting). Disguise or no, it was no secret he was the big guest everyone had been waiting for and fans 5 to 50 years old and beyond crowded into the Sky Church to have the best 15 minutes they’ll experience in a very long time.
This is the most amazing paragraph I have ever read
His defense should be that he found his entire outfit at a thrift store― 龜, Monday, May 19, 2014 9:11 AM (1 minute ago)
― 龜, Monday, May 19, 2014 9:11 AM (1 minute ago)
lol that is almost exactly his defense
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 19 May 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link
Disguise or no, it was no secret he was the big guest everyone had been waiting for
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 May 2014 14:13 (nine years ago) link
I cannot stop cracking up at that entire thing. I think if Macklemore had shown up in blackface, that blog post would have said something about him going a little heavy on the spray tan.
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Monday, 19 May 2014 14:15 (nine years ago) link
It's like a Justin Bieber fan trying to explain how there came to be a picture of Bieber passed out in a prostitute's bed in Brazil
― 龜, Monday, 19 May 2014 14:16 (nine years ago) link
― grindie cindy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, May 19, 2014 9:52 AM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Monday, May 19, 2014 9:55 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark
hehehehehehehehe
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 19 May 2014 14:16 (nine years ago) link
lmao @ Surprise Surprise, Macklemore in Disguise
― smhphony orchestra (crüt), Monday, 19 May 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link
Boy the author of the blog post better not be that guy at the Pop Conference who was the fragile flower/unreconstructed rockist who asked Sharon Jones about overproduced music or whatever it was.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 May 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link
This is one of those weird situations where you think something is so transparently offensive and career-threatening that it can't have been done on purpose but so specific and calculated that it can't have been done unintentionally. It's genuinely astonishing.
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Monday, 19 May 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link
yet his belt was impeccable
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 May 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link
His beard, trimmed just so.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 May 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link
This is one of those weird situations where you think something is so transparently offensive and career-threatening that it can't have been done on purpose but so specific and calculated that it can't have been done unintentionally
I was thinking along these lines and wondering if he'd somehow pissed off his costume designer or something
― soref, Monday, 19 May 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link
This is one of those weird situations where you think something is so transparently offensive and career-threatening that it can't have been done on purpose but so specific and calculated that it can't have been done unintentionally. It's genuinely astonishing.― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Monday, May 19, 2014 10:23 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Monday, May 19, 2014 10:23 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This is basically my feeling about every pop music/racism controversy of the last couple of years.
― how's life, Monday, 19 May 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link
I was thinking along these lines and wondering if he'd somehow pissed off his costume designer or something― soref, Monday, May 19, 2014 9:33 AM (38 minutes ago)
― soref, Monday, May 19, 2014 9:33 AM (38 minutes ago)
i like this theory, as improbable as it is
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 19 May 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Monday, May 19, 2014 9:43 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ahhhhhhhhh too good
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
Dressed in all blue except my rosh hashannah shoes, those are white Draped in a talis, shiksa standing next to me Probably shoulda washed this, smells like the rebbe's sheets, schvitz But shit, it was 99 cents, I'm a cheap Jew, I'm copping it Bout to go and get some compliments, passing up on those yarmulkes
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
now was that really necessary
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
it's ok I'm a hella good Jewish homie
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link
not up to speed, is this bad cultural appropriation?
― the only loving boy in UKIP (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link
wtfhttp://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Macklemore-says-costume-wasn-t-about-Jews-5489427.php
― Οὖτις, Monday, 19 May 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
oh I see we're here already. sorry.
wait, is the original "Thrift Shop" as completely rhyme-averse as Hurting's rewrite (obv I'm not looking up the lyrics because fuck that)
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Monday, 19 May 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link
nah I fudge it pretty bad
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 19 May 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
djp i would like to think you'd enjoy this link:
http://www.businessinsider.com/kidz-bop-thrift-shop-2013-6
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 19 May 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
are we having a poll on how many days he'll go with an aggressive "i done nothing man, people are just looking to be offended" stance before the inevitable weepy capitulation and begging for forgiveness?
― the only loving boy in UKIP (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 May 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link
you would be right to think that:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/the-kidz-bop-version-of-macklemores-thrift-shop-is-the-worstAmazingly, as horrible as this is, it's more charming than the original― big black nemesis, Puya chilensis (DJP), Monday, July 8, 2013 10:44 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― big black nemesis, Puya chilensis (DJP), Monday, July 8, 2013 10:44 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Monday, 19 May 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link
I'm not even really offended. He'd have to be much less of a dumbshit to have the ability to offend me.
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 19 May 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link
it's more of a smdh moment
xposts to djp
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 19 May 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link
When I was in the third grade I thought that I was gay,'Cause I could draw, my uncle was, and I kept my room straight.
step back for a second. how did anyone take this seriously, ever
― goole, Monday, 19 May 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link
so his room was straight and he was gay
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 May 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link
When I was in the third grade I thought that I was gay,'Cause I could draw...http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/4432919/dick-drawing-obsession-o.gif
― grindie cindy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 19 May 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link
Macklemore verses are definitely frighteningly short on functional endrhymes, DJP, yes
― ςὖτιe (some dude), Monday, 19 May 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
why was he in jewface idgi
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 May 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
fully willing to believe he had no clue, guy seems like a dimwit
― goole, Monday, 19 May 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
If Katy Perry had done it, she would have at least said something about how Yentl inspired her so much as a child.
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Monday, 19 May 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link
also fully willing to believe he knew and thought it would be, like, hilarious, because same
― goole, Monday, 19 May 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link
did he make any reference to the costume at all during the performance or anything
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 May 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link
I don't see this doing serious damage to his career. No matter how many times he shames black folks or splains to queers or dresses in jewface, white people still gonna be here for him.
― The Reverend, Monday, 19 May 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
none of the individual pieces of his costume taken separately would be cause for alarm but you put em all together and just... why dude
― Οὖτις, Monday, 19 May 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
and yeah I doubt this will hurt his career one iota
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Monday, May 19, 2014 12:52 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haaaaaaaa
xp exactly
"Barbra, Can You Dress Me?"
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 May 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link
feel like hell prob fade from huge superstardom with his next album for musical reasons but will have a long career w his core audience that was paying the bills before thrift shop
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 May 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link
this tweet makes it seem like he made a bar mitzvah joke but it's ambiguous https://twitter.com/lynnjacobson/statuses/467517278968225792
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 19 May 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
wish i could believe that, my guess is he has 2-3 albums of serious stardom left, followed by 10-15 years of filling venues of a respectable size.
― intheblanks, Monday, 19 May 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, there are still some topics for him to handle in a totally hamfisted way that stupid people eat up as profundity.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 19 May 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link
idk his music is pretty generic dance pop all his hits have other people singing the hooks, I'm skeptical of him as a irl pop star, agreed that being a gross self righteous kale smoothie of a man wont hurt him tho, big part of the draw in fact
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 May 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I kind of already felt like he had overshot his star potential
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 19 May 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link
um obviously the joke is that jews are cheap and therefore love thrift shops
nb i don't really care but that was the song he was singing while wearing his prosthetic nose, right?
― Mordy, Monday, 19 May 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link
yikes if so
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 19 May 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link
he def did "Thrift Shop"; he did another song too but I'm not invested enough in my google searching to figure out what it was
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Monday, 19 May 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link
a gross self righteous kale smoothie of a man
Perfect
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Monday, 19 May 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link
I did some work with a large group of college and immediately post-college kids last summer, and there was a deep, serious, and genuine love for Macklemore, feel like that influences my view of how much stardom he has left.
― intheblanks, Monday, 19 May 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link
Like, these people were basically already adults, it's not like growing out of your Bieber love or whatever.
― intheblanks, Monday, 19 May 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link
Plus they love him as a serious album artist, not just a hitmaker.
i kind of buy the fact that he wasn't trying to do jewface... cause.. whut? .. but the ignorance involved is pretty next-level. honestly what drives me craziest about macklemore is the idea that ceilings.. hold things? it's such a weird, off-putting image. i was about to write that i kind of like thrift shop, cause i kind of do - ¯\(°_o)/¯ - but that said, i would never, ever put it on at a party, or choose to listen to it, so i guess i don't like it that much at all.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 19 May 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link
macklemore occupies the same space in my head as pitbull - basically, somebody who has no business making a living from rapping, but who somehow has, and have no idea what they're talking about most of the time, or what they're even supposed to be doing, but are just riding this wave of approbation to wherever it takes them, and maybe it's wrong but i kind of find them both adorable. stupid but adorable. that's probably really condescending. again, ¯\(°_o)/¯
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 19 May 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
Really tired of people excusing their behavior via "that wasn't my intention", as if that would make it "better" when it's really just a different kind of depressing/ugly (don't blame me, blame society)
― brimstead, Monday, 19 May 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link
that "ceilings" song plays in an ad for a chintzy casino here, it's kind of perfect in that regard
― brimstead, Monday, 19 May 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link
I hate to rehash the whole grammy thing, but there was something really tone deaf in a similar way to the "I thought I was gay in 3rd grade" stuff the way he said to Kendrick Lamar "I robbed you." Not "you were robbed, you really deserved the awared" but "I robbed you."
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 19 May 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
there it is:
https://twitter.com/TuneZanotti_206/status/468442232119255040
― The Reverend, Monday, 19 May 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link
?
― how's life, Monday, 19 May 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, May 19, 2014 1:54 PM Bookmark
Maaaan, that's really unfair to Pitbull. Dude went the dance-pop route but he could be (and was) making really good Real Rap if he wanted to.
― The Reverend, Monday, 19 May 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link
xp: I'm saying Macklemore fans representing the demographic of modern Reagan Democrats is spot on
― The Reverend, Monday, 19 May 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link
I actually know too many self-professed liberals who liked "Same Love."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 May 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
I've had to argue down white libruls on that one a few times.
― The Reverend, Monday, 19 May 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link
And I'm saying "sorry that page does not exist. "
― how's life, Monday, 19 May 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link
yah rev check yr link & repost
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 19 May 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link
pitbull and macklemore aren't really comparable except as "massively popular rappers that critics dislike"
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 19 May 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, May 19, 2014 5:22 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark
i've argued on various platforms with white, liberal music critics who generally like rap music but have nonetheless taken the position that you don't have to like macklemore but he should be immune from criticism because at least his music stands for something "positive"
this is a strong faction of people
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 19 May 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
works for me, I think twitter is just having tech probs right now \o_O/
Ken Spliffey Jr. @TuneZanotti_206
@DJNphared @PROMO206 @sherpaco @akrish @Wizdom80 true. but mack fans have a special "Reagan democrat" stench to them. it's really a lot
― The Reverend, Monday, 19 May 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
Yep. It's the intentionally fallacy wearing a Shylock nose.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 May 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link
Dude went the dance-pop route but he could be (and was) making really good Real Rap if he wanted to.
haha i will confess to having zero knowledge of pitbull before he became whatever the hell he is today. but like... my point was that i kind of like pitbull? the point of comparison with macklemore is that basically i just don't think they're forces for evil. forces for dumbness sure but i think eliding the two is a mistake in this case. (interesting that reagan has been brought up, i remember similar debates about him: dumb or evil? or both?) just my own POV - i recognise there are things to hate about macklemore that i don't have the right receptors for.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 19 May 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
Not seeing the connection to "Reagan Democrats." Is it just being used as a term to mean people who say they are liberal but actually are staid and upholding the status quo? Because there's a lot more to the Reagan Democrat "phenomenon."
― intheblanks, Monday, 19 May 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link
Unless we're saying Macklemore's fanbase is primarily working class whites who've recently migrated from urban cores.
― intheblanks, Monday, 19 May 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
"If"?
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS2Ctqt0AF8tAE-sQHczdvuXbhkUJ3Wd1DBG12r8ABAaU4ohCFC
― Greer, Monday, 19 May 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link
I'm a total idiot about politics, but i'm pretty sure the poster was referring to ppl who were progressive *for their time* but once the 80s rolled around they didn't want to budge no more
― brimstead, Monday, 19 May 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link
re: reagan democrats, it was a matter of "we've given you enough", which has been the political narrative ever since
― brimstead, Monday, 19 May 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link
"Let us have fun, for godsake"
― brimstead, Monday, 19 May 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
Reagan Democrat = "Shit, Mabel, there's blacks moving into the neighborhood and the plant's closing."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 May 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I understand those things about Reagan Democrats; I totally am familiar with the term. I'm just struggling to see the connection to Macklemore in this case.
― intheblanks, Monday, 19 May 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link
wht ppl who think they are "down" but are in fact not all that "down" after all
― katsu kittens (contenderizer), Monday, 19 May 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link
wind up voting for lourde
― katsu kittens (contenderizer), Monday, 19 May 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link
To me it seems more linked to yuppies and high school/college kids with pseudo-hippie tendencies than working class people whose fortunes are falling and are openly resentful of minorities.
Which is not to say there aren't some unpleasant things re: race underlying the Macklemore phenomenon. Just not seeing the connection here.
― intheblanks, Monday, 19 May 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link
But Reagan democrats weren't concerned with being "down;" that's the point I'm making. It's grafting a weird hipster narrative about coolness onto a phenomenon directly related to the decline of industry.
― intheblanks, Monday, 19 May 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link
And the ever-present components of racial resentment that arose with that decline, naturally because this is America.
Again, there's a lot of gnarly things about race to be found in Macklemore's popularity, that have been discussed at length on this board,.
― intheblanks, Monday, 19 May 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link
How about this: every Macklemore fan is Brian Griffin
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Monday, 19 May 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link
lol truth
― the only loving boy in UKIP (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 May 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link
picturing Macklemore barking uncontrollably at Kendrick Lamar now
― the only loving boy in UKIP (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 May 2014 22:34 (nine years ago) link
haha ok just the idea of picturing a "macklemore fan" has magically granted me the required receptors to understand the hate i think
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 19 May 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/28886243.jpg
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 May 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link
mackle morefan power rangers
― ςὖτιe (some dude), Monday, 19 May 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
I just wish this dude would Mackle a little less
― unknown pleasure zone (uptown churl), Monday, 19 May 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link
― smhphony orchestra (crüt), Monday, 19 May 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link
This linked yet?
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2014/05/19/im-jewish-i-was-at-the-macklemore-show-and-heres-what-i-saw
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 May 2014 23:38 (nine years ago) link
I'm Jewish and most of the time these things don't bother me. But this was kinda bad. Phony apology made it worse. I'd give it an 8/10 on the Gibson scale. He's not going full Mel, but this is going to certainly hurt his future grammy prospects.
The only way it could have been worse is if he said his accountant gave him the idea.
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 19 May 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link
I hoped that he would have first offered an apology to anyone in the audience, like myself, who was horrified, going on to explain that he could see how the costume was a poor choice. That yes, he didn't really consider the racial overtones because of course, as a white man in our culture, he doesn't have to. That his privilege got in the way of his awareness and that he was deeply sorry to the Jewish people and to his audience for what was clearly an oversight.
jfc
― Mordy, Monday, 19 May 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link
what's wrong w/ that mordy
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:02 (nine years ago) link
look if a member of the tribe feels offended enough to need an apology from macklemore, let them ask for one. not cloth it in all this identity whiney privilege bullshit. most jews i've discussed this with think a) macklemore is an idiot and b) who cares? like when justin bieber made a faux paus at anne frank's house.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:06 (nine years ago) link
but what would happen to music internet if pointing out others' privilege goes away
― alpine static, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:08 (nine years ago) link
this is far worse than Justin Beiber saying something dumb at Anne Frank's house. This is closer to performing in blackface. Saying it's nothing ignores literally centuries of ethnic stereotypes and persecution.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:11 (nine years ago) link
jewface in america was a) mostly practiced by jews and b) didn't put anyone in an oven. it might have something to do w/ centuries of persecution but not much.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link
Ovens? Dude what the fuck is wrong with you?
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:13 (nine years ago) link
Congratulations, you just got 9 Gibsons
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:17 (nine years ago) link
lol what you're ridiculous
― Mordy, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:18 (nine years ago) link
this is a valid point. i'm sorry you thought i expressed it indelicately. centuries of persecution included inquisitions, pogroms, expulsions, enforced poverty -- the khmelnytsky uprising wasn't inspired by someone wearing a big nose and pretending to be a jew. when jewface was practiced in the US it was often by jews - who okay were distancing themselves from jewishness by mocking immigrant diction and dress - fanny brice, irving kaufman, etc. it's a little insensitive that macklemore dressed up like a jew and tbh i kinda want to believe him that it wasn't his intention. in any case, it is not in the continuum of atrocities + repression and it's disrespectful to pretend like this kid being offended is equally bad as any of these other things.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:21 (nine years ago) link
So are you saying that unless it's genocide Jews should just shut the fuck up and quit complaining and enjoy their privilege?
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link
it's pretty obvious that's not what he's saying
― sarahell, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:40 (nine years ago) link
as a jew, i give macklemore 7 or 8 dimwit points for the costume, and 9 or 10 dimwit points for deciding not to apologize. but i'm giving all my gibson points this month to donald sterling, whose "how come jews help other jews but blacks don't help other blacks?" comment a) was ridiculously offensive to african-americans and pretty much all other humans, and b) will potentially reinforce some people's opinions that jews are evil pigs who probably deserve all the jewface they get.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link
yes i am so much more offended by donald sterling and so is every jew i know
― Mordy, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:47 (nine years ago) link
X post...He seems to be saying that Macklamore is not as bad as Hitler. But who said that he was?
I'm sure that many plantation owners were worse than Donald Sterling, too. That doesn't make what that idiot said ok.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:47 (nine years ago) link
― katsu kittens (contenderizer), Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:19 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
Correct term is YT ppl
― 龜, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 01:00 (nine years ago) link
Response to that article Ned linked:
Half of my family is Jewish. I'm not offended, although I am a bit alarmed at how thin-skinned you are that you would be "incredibly upset and offended" at a crappy thrown together thrift-shop costume! Did he sing anti-semetic songs? Did he start off his set with a "Heil Hitler"?
Fuck Macklemore fans forever, basically.
― djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 01:41 (nine years ago) link
As a Jew, I find it kind of quaint Macklemore apropos of nothing(?) should go Jew-face. I'm not offended because a) I always expect the worst of just about everyone and b) I expect absolutely nothing from Macklemore, good or bad. And I certainly don't think the guy is smart enough to be nefarious, or dumb enough to be dangerous.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 01:44 (nine years ago) link
In other words, keep it up, Macklemore! I don't listen to you, but I'd kind of like to see how this all plays out.
Wait Donald Sterling is Jewish?
shameface :(
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 01:46 (nine years ago) link
Lol josh otm
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 01:47 (nine years ago) link
his birth name was tokowitz
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 May 2014 01:51 (nine years ago) link
his new name is fuckoffowitz
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link
as a jew, i celebrate yom kippur, rosh hashanah and hannukah! my god's name is moses.
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 02:09 (nine years ago) link
Behold his mighty hand!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqCTq3EeDcY
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link
Macklemore sounds like the name of a crappy fish
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 02:34 (nine years ago) link
mackleless
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 02:41 (nine years ago) link
Oh damn, I let myself get sucked into a an fb fight with a clueless white dude over Macklemore. That wasn't supposed to happen, but I'm feeling energetic about shit like this lately.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 02:54 (nine years ago) link
― intheblanks, Monday, May 19, 2014 3:22 PM (4 hours ago)
jk
― katsu kittens (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 02:56 (nine years ago) link
I honestly don't even want this dude to fall off because he cluelessly dressed like a caricatured jew, there are so man other good reasons for him to fall off
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 02:58 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, the Reagan Democrat thing isn't a complete equivalence due to the economic aspects, but it's definitely there in the unexamined attitudes toward race, et cetera, and all the rest. Or basically this:
― brimstead, Monday, May 19, 2014 3:11 PM Bookmark
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 03:01 (nine years ago) link
am down w/calling these yung dummies "reagan democrats" bc they are most likely the children of reagan democrats
― smooth hymnal (m bison), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 03:09 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I actually understand the point a little better now. I was just trying to point out that "Reagan Democrat" has a very specific connotation. The 'we've given you enough' sentiment does really capture it, and you see that idea emerge at the end of 70s/beginning of the 80s, when the Roosevelt coalition totally breaks down.
But Reagan Democrat doesn't just mean "fake progressive," so I was just confused to see it used interchangeably with "people who claim to be liberals but maybe don't think critically about race/privilege/their position in culture, and don't like being called out on it." That's not what "Reagan Democrat" means, and honestly you can find those people in every era ever, from before the Civil War to, I don't know, Adlai Stevenson and beyond.
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 03:16 (nine years ago) link
The more I think about it, the more I realize I'm probably splitting hairs. I just don't necessarily picture a factory worker who moved to Macomb County after the '67 riots when I think of Macklemore fans. Doesn't mean that the whole Macklemore phenomenon doesn't have its own set of problems.
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 03:30 (nine years ago) link
…some of which overlap.
well i guess we can just call them white people
― smooth hymnal (m bison), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 03:30 (nine years ago) link
― smooth hymnal (m bison), Monday, May 19, 2014 11:09 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
why are they most likely that
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 03:31 (nine years ago) link
I get more of a milquetoast mainstream liberal vibe tbh
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 03:53 (nine years ago) link
hey guys, he's "hip" to the ADL now.
http://macklemore.com/post/86276707372/family-friends-and-fans-alike-who-know-me-well
― nurse with attitude (get bent), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 04:02 (nine years ago) link
i know there aren't any ads there but i feel dirty giving that a pageclick
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 04:05 (nine years ago) link
Earlier in the day I thought it would be fun to dress up in a disguise and go incognito to the event, so that I could walk around unnoticed
yes i'm sure he absolutely blended into the background
― Clay, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 04:12 (nine years ago) link
I picked up a bunch of fake mustaches and beards and grabbed a left over wig from our recent trip to Japan.
cool I'm sure that wig was definitely used in a very culturally sensitive way in Japan
― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 04:19 (nine years ago) link
regardless of what happens concerning this particular episode, i hope this clown & his career immediately fade into the cruelest kind of nothingness
― smhphony orchestra (crüt), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 04:25 (nine years ago) link
idk it'd be kinda sad if after his multiple crimes against literally all of the rest of humanity this dumb costume was the thing that killed him
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 04:30 (nine years ago) link
i don't just want his career to end on what he thinks is an unfair misunderstanding
i want to be able to sleep knowing that he's no longer proud of himself
i would destroy so much for that small comfort
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, May 19, 2014 10:31 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i have absolutely no data to support what i said, just shootin from the hip
― smooth hymnal (m bison), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 04:33 (nine years ago) link
Wow, and Yes!
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 04:56 (nine years ago) link
a beautiful dream
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 05:32 (nine years ago) link
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Friday, November 15, 2013 11:29 AM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this post is killing me
― brimstead, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 05:35 (nine years ago) link
macklemore fans : reagan democrats :: lumineers fans : whigs
~makes u think~
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 06:28 (nine years ago) link
oh snap
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2014/05/19/i-stopped-by-the-costume-shop-where-macklemore-says-he-got-that-costume-and-that-is-not-a-witch-nose
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 07:48 (nine years ago) link
this looks nothing like a witches nose care to comment mr macklemore
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 12:30 (nine years ago) link
v clever euphemistic racist naming on that nose btw
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 12:31 (nine years ago) link
wow i hope amanda palmer is taking notes because that's an exemplary display of non-apology she could only hope to pull off
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 12:38 (nine years ago) link
is kind of funny how he tried to be like, it's just a generically misogynist costume, not an anti-semetic [sic] one
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 13:11 (nine years ago) link
Incredible language in that apology, like Homer Simpson wearing a monocle.
"unfortunately at the time I did not foresee the costume to be viewed in such regard"
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 13:25 (nine years ago) link
ilx catnip this
― woy wogers (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 13:35 (nine years ago) link
more like any opportunity to mock some imagined monolithic ilx for giving a shit about racism or misogyny = darraghmac catnip
fuck off, cunto
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link
o u :D
― woy wogers (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link
oh my god, that apology
lolololololololololol
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link
ppl like darraghmac are pretty much the reason ppl like macklemore get away with shit like this
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 13:52 (nine years ago) link
scum tbh
lex considers working class irishman scum 'shocker'!
― woy wogers (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link
http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/020113_winter-on-rocks-007.jpg
"unfortunately at the time I did not foresee the costume to be viewed in such regardSo fuck that noise I'ma go full hamCall me a retard!"
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link
darraghmacklemore
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 13:59 (nine years ago) link
got called Macklemore in the peckham wetherspoons at the start of the year, probably the worst moment of my life
― online hardman, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link
the reagan democrats thing seemed off base to me last night, but I've come around to itpeople who will, in 5-10 years, feel that we all solved gay marriage but now we've got kids, we're tired of high taxes, are looking out for retirement, and we worked hard for our success and don't build that apartment building in my neighborhood.used to live in seattle and I already see stuff along these lines start to pop up on fb feeds of folks there (especially anti-development/lack of thought about race & class). and they all looove macklemore.
― chinavision!, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link
people who will, in 5-10 years, feel that we all solved gay marriage but now we've got kids, we're tired of high taxes, are looking out for retirement, and we worked hard for our success and don't build that apartment building in my neighborhood.
those are Eagles Democrats iirc
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:05 (nine years ago) link
― nurse with attitude (get bent), Monday, May 19, 2014 11:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
of all the causes to go with, really? he should have posted a pic of elie wiesel at the end.
― bnw, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:07 (nine years ago) link
― The Reverend, Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:48 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Wow, I'm kind of more shocked that a costume shop still sells a "Sheikh/Fagin Nose" in 2014 than I am that Macklemore wore it. You might as well just call it a "Dirty Semite Nose"
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link
sheikhlemore, then
― woy wogers (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link
Costume shops are one of the final strongholds of acceptable racism in western society.
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link
^truth bomb
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link
I'm in this big ass noseFrom that costume shop down the roadI wear your granddad's stereotypes (damn right)
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:15 (nine years ago) link
this is a costume from my local drugstore in Oregon:
http://i.imgur.com/1up7KZa.png
― rob, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:39 (nine years ago) link
lmao @ the ADL comment. what a dumbass
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link
viking hat = offensive nordface
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:44 (nine years ago) link
OPTIONAL ACCESSORIES:•Pimp Costume
― grindie cindy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
I kind of support that costume if only because maybe Flavor Flav will see it and buy himself a suit
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link
wait, are those outstretched hand sunglasses?
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link
glasses with a strong hand and an outstretched arm
― smhphony orchestra (crüt), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
those are bits and pieces they had left over from other costumes surely? Viking, Dame Edna, 70s disco dancer
― soref, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link
okay seriously have people forgotten how Flavor Flav dresses
http://images.buddytv.com/articles/Image/flavor-of-love/what-are-they-up-to-now-flavor-flav.jpg
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link
weird GIS results for "irish scum"....
http://i.imgur.com/P4edbLN.jpg
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link
vicious doxx can a mod get that pls
― woy wogers (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link
wait I'm p sure that's how macklemore dressed when he was last in town tbrr
― woy wogers (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link
^Macklemore in the "Irish Celebration" video xxp
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/dca1s82.jpg
― 龜, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link
wait, so have we discovered that macklemore posts on ilx as lex or what?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
a sheik/fagin nose, jeez. DJP otm, it's pretty amazing what you see especially at some of those fly-by-night costume shops that pop up before halloween.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
i really hope this all makes him mackle less, tho
― grindie cindy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
xxp -- Well...we've discovered you post here as you, and there you go.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:01 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, August 27, 2013 11:56 AM (8 months ago)
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, May 19, 2014 10:41 PM (Yesterday)
― Mordy, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
i feel like this joke is going to continue to get funnier the more ppl make it
whereas sarcasm is still fresh
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
that god for that
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
so happy that this voice is fresh
Macklefresh
― 龜, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
Macklemore sounds like the name of a regional fish and/or tricky fairy tale troll.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
Also, it makes me think of Ritchie Blackmore.
schmekelmore
― bnw, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
Blackmore's Night:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Blackmore%27s_Night_in_2012.jpg/1200px-Blackmore%27s_Night_in_2012.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
man Fleetwood Mac have aged
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link
mor is 'big' as gaeilge but by all means continue to use yr 'comedy' against my culture in yr ignorance ITT oh woe, oh woe
― woy wogers (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link
all the attempts to say "who macklemore fans are" is kind of weird b/c he's HUGE. macklemore fans are everybody. well, everybody except those who don't like him. but it's not as if his fans fit into some very tidy demographic.
― display name changed. (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link
haha all you really need is the URL
"ask any of my friends, they'll tell you..."
― display name changed. (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link
I’ve got hip to some incredible groups like the ADL
this is ominous.
― display name changed. (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link
wish he'd Macklebeag amirite?
― the only loving boy in UKIP (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link
amateurist otm as to Macklemore's "audience." That's something I was trying to get at upthread in response to predictions that he wouldn't be a star by the next record and would go back to being a moderately successful undie rapper for the rest of his career.
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link
macklemore fans are everybody.
In the sense that almost anyone can become part of The Borg, yes.
― Greer, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link
I still stand by "every Macklemore fan is Brian Griffin"
― hella good Jewish homies (DJP), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link
appreciate it nv
― woy wogers (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link
― display name changed. (amateurist), Tuesday, May 20, 2014 2:51 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
don't you know they're the children of reagan democrats?!
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link
that's the kind of thing that makes me want to quit the internet (along with, you know, everything else on the internet).
― display name changed. (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link
no they are regan democrats, i.e. democrats possessed by demons, spinning their heads 360 degrees, barfing, etc.
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link
― display name changed. (amateurist), Tuesday, May 20, 2014 2:51 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's definitely the demographic of "people who don't listen to much rap music"
― grindie cindy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link
if you know what i mean
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link
Whiney are you a a preening metal hip-hop purist manbaby ? :)
― ۩, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link
xp I was going to say upthread that the defining sentiment of a Macklemore fan is probably "finally some rap music for ME"
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link
The defining sentiment of a Macklemore fan is "I like pop music."
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
That came off as snarky and pejorative about pop music, though I didn't mean it to. But my guess if you made a diagram of people who like Lil Wayne, Macklemore, Drake, Eminem, Rihanna, and Beyonce, there'd be a gigantic amount of overlap.
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link
My main point is that this dope is one of the 10 most popular artists of the past couple years, and my guess is that the average Macklemore fan is just the average fan of music that is popular right now, not someone super-stoked that there's finally a rapping white guy.
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
Which isn't to say that his music is good, or that there aren't gnarly racial components to his success. I just kind of feel all this "Reagan Democrat/music for white people who are afraid of rap" stuff understates the size of this guy's fan base.
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
It's the same audience who bought Nelly records a decade ago. It's standard-issue pop-rap crossover to me, made way easier for the American public because of Macklemore's race, but not limited to people who buy no other rap.
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link
It's the same audience who bought Nelly records a decade ago.
how dare u
― smhphony orchestra (crüt), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link
Not a qualitative judgment; Nelly's way better.
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
also tho i think nelly was a genuine star w/african americans
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link
cant find it now but either rev or whiney or someone posted a link to a twitter search of the words "macklemore" and "rap" and maybe the word "like" and it was tweet after tweet of white teens proclaiming that macklemore is the only rap music they liked
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, for sure re:Nelly. I guess here's what I mean, which I honestly don't feel like I'm expressing very well at all:
I actually think that race is a gigantic issue for Macklemore's success, but I think that psychoanalyzing his audience as something separate from the audience for the rest of American pop music is folly.
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link
likewise Eminem and Beastie Boys were the only rappers played on rock radio when I was in high school
― anonanon, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link
only rappers played on rock radio
For an earlier example, see Run-DMC with Aerosmith.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I'm just saying that dude's fan base is a fish-in-a-barrel on this thread, but the reality is that they're the fish all around you. Which isn't supposed to be a more comforting thought.
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link
sorry for the pseudo-"haven't I blown your mind??" phrasing on that last one.
I just kind of feel all this "Reagan Democrat/music for white people who are afraid of rap" stuff understates the size of this guy's fan base.
this... is a huge fan base though? as evidenced by the success of Macklemore (welcome to Tautologies R Us)
― On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
Nelly and Macklemore comparison is off for the simple fact that Hip-hop and rap stations actually played Nelly. Macklemore's songs barely have a presence on radio-based rap charts.
― Greer, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
welcome to Tautologies R Us
where you're guaranteed to go round and round w/your cart or your money back
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link
xps
but run-dmc/aerosmith makes sense as like rock crossover, as did at least some of the beastie boys they played (sabotage, fight for your right)
playing eminem on the other hand was just so transparently not about the music's ostensible genre
― anonanon, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I take back the Nelly thing, that was bogus, sorry about that.
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link
DJP probably otm, probably should rethink before I go nuts posting again, sorry all.
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link
eminem no longer gets played by rap radio either and hasn't for years and years
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
r.i.p. big man
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link
Macklemore should hook the Nelly crowd by joining Tim McGraw on his "Sundown Heaven Town Tour"
― smhphony orchestra (crüt), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
i think there is definitely a lot of trying to define the macklemore audience as NOT LIKE ME in this thread because people dont like his music (and the unfortunate fact of his success). pretty basic distancing 101. which is not to say that he doesn't suck. and not to say that many of his fans probably suck (but find me an act that you couldn't say that about). but let's not go crazy here.
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link
if i was a macklemore fan, i'd swear ilx hates me
― grindie cindy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link
Every song of his I've heard is a smug, horrible, hateful thing. Fans of his are not real music fans as far as I'm concerned.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link
k
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link
The Heist [self-released, 2012]
The question isn't whether this Seattle alt-rapper is a cornball, it's whether he's so dumb he's a cornball or so brave he's a cornball. The answer is "Same Love," the best gay marriage song to date in any genre and as corny as it damn well oughta be. Sure there's too much "who I really was," too much "a life lived for art is never a life wasted." And though the co-billed Lewis is big and original for an alt-beatmaker, his percussion-oriented version of an E Street Band, strings-swell-to-big-finish aesthetic has its icky moments. But as someone who shares Macklemore's moral views if not his equation of sincerity with soul, I find only the alcoholic's confession "Neon Cathedral" too much, and that one's counteracted by the relapser's confession "Starting Over," just as "Sayin' 'That's poetry, it's so well-spoken,' stop it" counteracts his art talk. He's especially good on old cars and old clothes. B+
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link
ha he's always excused well-meaning liberal garbage tho
― goole, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
The couple black Macklemore fans I have met, I have questioned whether they are actual Don Lemon clones.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link
― goole, Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:26 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
he said, panicky
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
it might have made sense if those same rock stations had also played run-dmc's "rock box" or "king of rock" once in a while, but i don't recall that ever happening. the only crossover rock stations cared about was crossing over to white faces on the album cover.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link
you guys are dumb mackelmore def has a demographic like all artists do to a certain extent but with him particularly hes had a p long career of building a hardcore grassroots audience that has is a v specific demo, then he got a few huge hits, I guess u cld call everyone who thinks thrift shop is good a macklemore "fan" its p obvs that they're not too committed, now if you look at the history of music charts just because you make some hits doesnt mean you then make hits forever sometimes you dont and you lose those casual fans, but if like macklemore you have those hardcore fans to fall back on thats good, even prob through your hits you've managed to pickup more hardcore fans of a similar type to yr previous hardcore fans, and fwiw he was not at all just some rando undie rapper before his hits he was doing p good for himself, my feeling is based on the kinda amateurish quality if his music that he will more likely be a flash in the pan nothing abt his music saying pro hit maker to me
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 01:46 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I definitely said he'd be famous forever, not that he'd have probably 2-3 more records as a "star" before fading a little, but still always being able to fill a respectable venue. I also called him a "moderately successful undie rapper," which as you pointed out is totally distinct from "he was doing p good for himself."
For what it's worth, the career trajectory I predict for dude is probably closest to, like, Mumford & Sons; not guaranteed famous forever, but not a quick Alanis Morissette-style fade from broad popularity. My feeling is based on my interactions with a ton of 21- to 24-year-olds in a random professional setting, many of whom were more than casual fans and were all about The Heist.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:14 (nine years ago) link
Hell, I may be wrong. Honestly kind of hope I am.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link
I think without the benefit of social media, Macklemore would've gone the way of Arrested Development or PM Dawn after his time in the spotlight. Now, though, he can stay in people's faces indefinitely.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link
predict 1st single from next album peaks at #22 next one fails to break the top 50, hes still oddly popular but no one notices
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link
over two million people follow him on twitter, so someone likes him
― markers, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:21 (nine years ago) link
u guys need to find better metrics than twitter followers and 22 y/os at work imo
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link
ok i'll do a survey
― markers, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:25 (nine years ago) link
i think there is definitely a lot of trying to define the macklemore audience as NOT LIKE ME in this thread because people dont like his music
― katsu kittens (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:26 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, but he's also way more popular than Arrested Development or PM Dawn ever were. He's had 4 top 15 hits off the same record. Totally possible that it's all driven by casual fans and there has only been a minor change in his core fanbase; I'm just predicting otherwise.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:26 (nine years ago) link
fair point on the coworkers thing. Just some anecdata to add to the stuff I just posted.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:27 (nine years ago) link
Who knows, maybe he'll Alanis, that'd be fine with me.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:28 (nine years ago) link
can we stop this is dumb i apologize for starting it this used to be a cool thread for making fun of maklemore before people started writing dissertations abt a good tweet and arguing abt the meaning of the word fan
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:29 (nine years ago) link
yeah, fair point. sorry about that; I was totally the driver on both those things.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:30 (nine years ago) link
seems like only yesterday that he was performing in an anti-semitic costume in front of hundreds of cheering people
Yeah, but he's also way more popular than Arrested Development or PM Dawn ever were.
Probably true. I just used them as an example of posi-hiphop that people who say "I don't like rap, but..." generally gravitate towards. This guy's fame graph has bell curve all over it, though.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:31 (nine years ago) link
it's not just the thread that's the internet now, you want a joke you get a dissertation
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link
when i try to open this whole thread chrome gives me a malware warning i feel like there's a joke here somewhere
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:42 (nine years ago) link
Mackleware
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:42 (nine years ago) link
Macklefee Security Center
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:44 (nine years ago) link
Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned)Posted: May 21, 2014 at 2:39:06 AM
:( true
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:45 (nine years ago) link
http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=northern+state
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:46 (nine years ago) link
lol sg
― katsu kittens (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:49 (nine years ago) link
lol had not heard about this before:
During the 2013 NBA Playoffs, the Oklahoma City Thunder were using the song "Can't Hold Us"[10] to pump up the crowd during their games. Macklemore, a Seattle native and fan of the former Seattle SuperSonics, requested that the Thunder, who moved from Seattle to Oklahoma City in 2008, not play the song. The Thunder acquiesced.[11]
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 03:05 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/xSERKuU.png
makes sense.
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 04:06 (nine years ago) link
ha of course
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 04:08 (nine years ago) link
typical. showbiz jews taking care of their own.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 05:53 (nine years ago) link
distinguishing factors between macklemore versus pm dawn/arrested development hmm
― anonanon, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 05:58 (nine years ago) link
get a vibe from this guy like, googlebot assigned to index buzzfeed listicles/upworthy videos achieves sentience, starts rapping
― anonanon, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 06:10 (nine years ago) link
/thread
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 06:14 (nine years ago) link
That's really obnoxious to compare macklemore bo arrested development who, despite being every rock critics fav punching bag when they want to stunt like they are tuff guys, actually existed within the Afrocentric movement in hip hop and were a genuine part of the same aspects of hip hop that gave birth to native tongues, etc... To equate a song like Tennessee where he's contemplating the trees his ancestors hung from to Macklemore's omg mom I like finger painting too much am I a butt pirate saybit ain't so is so wrong
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 13:00 (nine years ago) link
the matisyahu comparison is best. they both like to ripoff hip-hop and they both like to pretend to be jewish.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 13:07 (nine years ago) link
mordy you know self-confession is the basis of all faith
― ogmor, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 13:10 (nine years ago) link
I may repost this about a billion times on this thread
― On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link
sounds legit xp
― Mordy, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link
can we talk about xgau's gross northern state reviews for a second tho: Three white-girl voices from the farthest reaches of Nassau County: Hesta Prynn angular and willfully ill-bred, Guinea Love zaftig and a touch guttural, the misleadingly handled DJ Sprout well-rounded and sometimes pretty.
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 14:00 (nine years ago) link
dude is such a fuckin creep
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link
Still like that first arrested development album. as well as a couple PM dawn albums.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link
why would anyone shit on arrested development?
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link
PM Dawn and AD have nothing to do with each other though other than hair.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link
everybody on the money about Arrested Development except whoever dragged them in in the first place
― coign of wantage (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link
PM Dawn has definitely been vindicated by how much rap has embraced gauzy, euro synth textures, cloud rap, etc
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link
just checking, macklemore really only has one album that anyone's bought and he's been coasting off it since 2012, right?
― a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link
Look, I never questioned how good or bad Arrested Development were. I brought them up as a comparison to normal white people engaging with hip hop for a minute until they're bored with it and move on to the next thing. Those are the buttons Macklemore is pushing.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link
the first rap CD i paid for with my own money was Arrested Development Unplugged, it's a wonder i didn't grow up to BE Macklemore tbh
― ςὖτιe (some dude), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link
arrested development is p bad tho
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link
Probably because you couldn't draw when you were in the third grade xp
― 龜, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:07 AM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there was a moment of critical obsession that verged a bit hysterical in the mid-90s when most white critics were ignoring illmatic
nowadays its swung pretty hard the other way and m@tt otm
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link
Dunno if you got yer years right dee
― da croupier, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link
i knew so many people who were on some i dont usually like rap shit with AD so JFs point stands imho
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link
which is not to say that theyre like mackelm in other ways
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link
3 years came out in march 92, illmatic april 94.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link
A GAME OF HORSESHOES
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link
White critics weren't the only ones saying "save us, speech, you're are only hope" when G thang dropped
― da croupier, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link
I think his point was that throughout the mid-90s when lots of great rap was still being overlooked by music critics, it kind of became emblematic of "This is the rap that white rock critics think is great, lol, c'mon!" Not that it was specifically being supported over Illmatic in 94, just kind of became Exhibit A of "White rock critics just don't understand"
Totally correct me if I'm wrong though.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
Yeah it's just revisionist to pretend the enthusiasm was white only for a group loved by Randall Keenan, spike lee, Danyel smith, etc. plenty of black writers were glad for a popular alternative to gangsta
― da croupier, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
saying they were busy ignoring an album that wouldn't come out until AD dropped Zingalamaduni just reaffirms the perspective is askew
― da croupier, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
http://books.google.com/books?id=hcbFj_1xS7QC&pg=PA29&lpg=PA29&dq=arrested+development+children+of+the+revolution+spin&source=bl&ots=bNsf6QvEn2&sig=Xk3cxuayxfmKhZxEKBaKsY2Js5I&hl=en&sa=X&ei=A818U6W_N4TuoASYh4HgCA&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=arrested%20development%20children%20of%20the%20revolution%20spin&f=false
AD was so awful
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
in case anybody forgot
totally fascist, right?
― On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
AD & M/RL are comparable in as far as they're marketed as an alternative to the rap norm, and in that the spokespeople aren't as liberal-minded as the hype suggests, but it should be pretty obvious that a song like "Tennessee" is infinitely more heartfelt and refreshing a perspective than "Same Love."
― da croupier, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link
AD & M/RL are comparable in as far as they're marketed as an alternative to the rap norm
Yeah, this is the only point I was originally trying to make. I wish I'd worded it like this.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link
well the idiotic part is assuming only white people can appreciate an alternative to the rap norm
― da croupier, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
in 3rd grade i thought i was a horseshoe because I was lucky and liked to be on the bottom of horses feet also my uncle was a horse
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
nay
― a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link
PM Dawn and Arrested Development were two African American groups who dared to rhyme about things outside of rap's accepted narrative
Macklemore is a white musician borrowing a black artform to help confirm the pre-existing biases of smug white people.
Bringing their names into this is corny as fuck.
― grindie cindy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
I WASN'T MAKING A QUALITATIVE COMPARISON JESUS CHRIST
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
omg strawman much whiney jeez
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
dared to rhyme about things outside of rap's accepted narrative
gtfo they were plenty accepted. unless you are KRS-One
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
can't believe people itt are arguing that Macklemore & Ryan Lewis sound just like Arrested Development. smdh.
― macklin' rosie (crüt), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
― da croupier, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:01 AM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i didn't say ONLY white people liked it, just that a bunch of white people jumping on board who were ignoring the vast majority of the genre was what made it seem esp suspect
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
― da croupier, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:23 AM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the idiotic part is you projecting a strawman onto us
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
I would argue that it only seemed suspect to other white people
― On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:58 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
KRS-One throwing Prince Be offstage was widely thought to be funny and was used in punchlines etc...to act like PM Dawn wasn't seen as soft or corny of...basically faggy....you weren't engaged in rap then or rap media
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link
also why the hell are we having an authenticity argument about Arrested Development and PM Dawn on the Macklemore thread
― On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link
I think Arrested was in general more in the tenor of a certain portion of hip hop culture at the time as I mentioned, and there were others to the left of even them like Divine Styler or Me Phi Me etc
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link
btw who is Οὖτις,
def one of the worst thing on the nets these days is WP competing to demonstrate their deep understanding of racial politics, so over WP tbh
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link
Poor Illmatic, I hope it recovered
― grindie cindy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link
it did whiney :)
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link
maybe we should just wholesale turn this thread into "the evolution of Michael Franti" and call it a day
― On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link
Internet, drug of a nation
― grindie cindy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link
to act like PM Dawn wasn't seen as soft or corny of...basically faggy....you weren't engaged in rap then or rap media
oh they were seen like that yeah. People said the same shit about De La/Native Tongues, who also got into onstage fights, and are pretty widely regarded as canonical nowadays. PM Dawn were an easy target for other acts to position themselves as "harder than". But they still sold a lot of records, and I don't think it was entirely to white people who didn't otherwise listen to rap.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link
I give the rich a giant tax loopholeI leave the poor living in a poophole
― how's life, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link
I'd argue that PM Dawn read more like a pop/R&B group but I don't think anyone on the Boomerang soundtrack can be accused of only being appealing to white people.
― On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
If you get really high and listen to PM Dawn loud it's fuckin awesome
that's my contribution to this discussion
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
― On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:01 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i think this is key - esp when you consider that the person most credited for Illmatic's insta-canonical status is John Schecter. The shift feels way more generational than racial - it's not as if the Chronic didn't have a bunch of white people jumping on board who were also ignoring the vast majority of the genre.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link
FWIW the classic hip-hop stations in both LA and Phoenix still play Arrested Development from time to time; heard "Tennessee" and "Everyday People" multiple times. Can't recall ever hearing PM Dawn, though that doesn't mean it wasn't on the playlist.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link
ha i had no idea there was such a thing as an oldies rap station
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link
neither did i, in fact i've been annoyed for a while that that's not yet a national radio trend
― ςὖτ ιτ Οὖτ (some dude), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, not sure if KDAY in LA still is primarily classic hip-hop in format; it was when I left in 2011. Phoenix has "The Beat," which was all classic hip-hop in 2011 but is now a mix of new and old.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
dead sirius
http://www.siriusxm.com/backspin
― da croupier, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
yeah the beat is pretty good!
― Spottie, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
there's some clear channel station in Los Angeles that plays "dusties" which in this case means classic r&b and hip hop (mostly the former, but some of the latter) from roughly 1970 to 1990. when i was there i listened to it constantly, heard lots of songs that i otherwise never hear on the radio, not just old school hip hop but mid-1980s freestyle, new jack swing, 1970s vocal groups, zapp and roger, etc.
― display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link
I loved the Beat when I first moved to Phoenix, but they definitely started narrowing their classic playlists around 2012. Phoenix also has a classic 70s/80s R&B/funk station.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link
to bring this back on topic: all of the aforementioned genres/artists are better than macklemore. but you knew that.
i'm a little annoyed at the seeming presumption by some posters here that macklemore doesn't have many black fans. there are plenty of black folks who aren't particularly invested in hip hop and the policing of its boundaries and like a wide swath of pop music just like everyone else, which probably includes whatever macklemore song is riding the charts at the moment. implying or stating otherwise is stereotyping, kind of reminds me of the whole "why does black people not want to rock" thing.
― display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link
Chicago has a dusties station but somehow their mix of music isn't as heady or varied as the one in Los Angeles. from what I recall it mostly sticks to what you might call "soul" (vocal groups, aretha, luther vandross, that type of thing) and doesn't have much straight funk, electro, or hip hop.
― display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
actually I dunno if the Chicago station still exists or, if it does exist, if it plays the same type of thing as it did a few years ago.
if you're talking WVAZ it does still exist but they are not exclusively oldies, you'll hear 50's ray charles alongside new pharrel singles
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
i never remember call letters!
― display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
http://www.v103.com/main.html
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
best radio station
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link
zero macklemore
even before i clicked that link, i imagined there was probably a 60% chance of seeing steve harvey on there.
― display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
i never have it on during his show but i do hear the extended promos they air for it
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
also they air keith sweat's syndicated show on weeknights
THE SWEAT HOTEL
http://www.v103.com/onair/the-sweat-hotel-47100/
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
ew that title
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:15 (nine years ago) link
why not THE SWEAT LODGE?
― display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link
its the best & sadly there is no audio of it online
ppl call in and confess that they've been cheating on their sig other
or they call in and answer keith's topic of the evening, for ex: "ladies: is your man putting it down the way you need him to? and fellas is your lady putting it down the way you need her to?"
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
lol if not call me keith sweat and we can talk abt it girl
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link
― da croupier, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:37 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i dunno man i'm just looking at pazz n jop & av club fetishization of alt rappers in the early 00s that basically ignored anything vaguely 'commercial' or 'street'
obv this isn't an issue any more (as i was saying i agree with m@tt? or you guys forgot so you could pile on?) but no it wasn't just white ppl policing myopic 'indie' coverage of hip hop that thought dj shadow and dr octagon and (at one point) arrested development made the most important rap records EVAH
all i'm saying is it was understandable why things leaned so far back the other way ... arrested development were cool & good, so were PM Dawn, but they were definitely overhyped at one point
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link
i know that we're so above that now that ilx YT's have longstanding support of VIC's "Get Silly" but let's not pretend that the 'hip-hop is entering its hair metal phase' jim derogatisms of hip-hop at the turn of the millennium were some sort of balanced, un-problematic wonderland of hip hop coverage
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link
hair metal is good
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link
Entroducing is so good.
― how's life, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link
its also not rap
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link
i also like dr. octagon
If its not rap is it hip hop?
― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link
who cares
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link
i love dr octogon but dj shadow is like the most boringiest music ever created like someone thought to themselves how can i make the most boringiest bloodless music possible
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link
I'm not saying that writers (white or black) couldn't/shouldn't have celebrated arrested development, just that once YT's got behind it, it made it this kind of massive critical phenomenon beyond what the group could hope to deliver.
Like, plenty of Yts and non-yts love tribe but they never got quite the same level of insane PNJ dominant attention
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link
If you think that about DJ Shadow, DJ Vadim will likely put you into an instant coma
― On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link
given my time in coffee shops doing grad school work in my 20s i sometimes think endtroducing might be album i've heard the most in my life
― goole, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link
I still like DJ Shadow although I'm pickier about which tracks I'll put on ... "midnight in a perfect world" "high noon" and the joint that samples Paul Simon are all p chill
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link
someone told me dj shadow makes music these days that sounds like the prodigy and other english groups like that from the 90s lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link
i bet it's still better than his keak da sneak collabs
― On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:08 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao i have a clear memory of someone recommending dj vadim to me by saying "its rap except for with like good production" which shd win some sort of im not usually into rap but excellence award
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link
or, more to the point, grammy awards attention and mtv attention. i'm not sure pnj attention matters at all IRL.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link
dj shadow dj krush dj vadim all these djs have this weird very purposeful rhythmic inertness that is supposed to read as thoughtful and peaceful but is really very ponderous and unchill
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link
I'm not gonna condemn DJ Krush given Cold Crush Cuts
― On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link
ya he is def the best of the three
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
underrated 90s DJ: DJ Honda
but he made actual rap records
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTshj2xDgMY
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
Common kinda shits that song up. Juju has my favorite verse. Him or Fat Joe
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link
he had this weird mostly empty store store on orchard that sold a portable turntable he designed and like a few tshirts
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link
i owned that 12" btw
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:18 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes this as well i was being lazy
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
KDAY is awesome, was so glad to tune into them on last trip to LA and hear "No Vaseline"
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link
followed by vintage Scarface and then Drop it Like Its Hot
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
KDAY is amazing every city should be so lucky
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link
yup, an oasis in a wasteland
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link
One thing that's great about KDAY is they will play just about any track off of Chronic 2001, not just the singles
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link
*sigh* i wish BBC Radio Humberside played "Fuck You" on the reg
― coign of wantage (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
I listen to KDAY every day
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
or at least when I drive I guess
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link
Heard "Fuck You" more than once on KDAY
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link
http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/dT8/p6y/dT8p6yxTe.jpeg
― coign of wantage (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link
fuck wit KDAY (and everybody's celebratin')
― ςὖτ ιτ Οὖτ (some dude), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link
listening to 3 years, 5 mo., and 2 days in the life of arrested development....this ain't so bad actually
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link
on the heels of all the (much less popular/praised) first wave of Native Tongues stuff I just found it really irritating and kind of pompous
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link
granted I haven't listened to it in at least 15 years
well like i ain't throwing out my copies of 3 feet high and rising or done by the forces of nature or anything
i dunno...it's more dated now so it feels loveable like an artifact of a certain era
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link
sometimes they hit on a real nice bluesy/downhome more live instrument focused version of the native sound
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link
that album is one of those things i've hated so long that i don't think i could stop now
― display name changed. (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link
speaking of jungle brothers it never really registered to me how much Speech bit Baby Bam from Jungle Brothers whole flow
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link
really?!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link
at the time it just seemed really unfair that they were huge and the Jungle Bros were stuff being these obscure also-rans
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link
funny thread: arrested development: classic or dud?
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2014/05/macklemore_s_offensive_costume_is_part_of_pop_s_long_history_of_appropriation.html
Carl Wilson weighs in (with asides re Katy Perry and others, plus tv shows)
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 May 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
I like when he briefly notes that warning against immediate indignation might be easy for him considering he's in none of the appropriated cultures
― da croupier, Saturday, 24 May 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link
Not that it keeps him from writing a thinkpiece about whether or not people are too shortsightedly judgey these days
― da croupier, Saturday, 24 May 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link
"But in its day, it was all received as respectable, good fun—to the degree that the Jewfaced or yellowfaced performers were often Jews or Asians themselves, joining in with degrees of enthusiasm or reluctance that are often hard to decipher at this remove."
...
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Saturday, 24 May 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
this mongrel land we call planet Earth
Sounds like a line from the end of a Star Trek episode.
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Saturday, 24 May 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
Smdh at "we all have different noses" line
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 May 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
clever by half
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 25 May 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link
kinda surprised it took this long for someone from rhymesayers to start cutting on macklemore for being a knockoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozqQCBbZwYQ
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
ha, I kicked it with Ali once, real cool dude
― uppers epilepsy sh@kedown (The Reverend), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
yeah he's genuinely positive, he does a lot of stuff to get kids school supplies in north mpls and generally can be counted on to be 100% pro labor, anti-police brutality, shows up for damn near any benefit show
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link
wow!
― troy na'vi (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link
who does mackelmore site as his influences
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link
gay people everywhere
― arid banter (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link
his uncle, drawing, keeping his room tidy
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link
3rd grade
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link
the thrifting movement
― arid banter (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link
ryan lewis
― macklin' rosie (crüt), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
Bro Ali video! <3
― Strictly EZ Snappin' Nhex (Spottie), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
Jackie Mason
― arid banter (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link
hahaha man i've watched this like 5 times macklemore sucks so bad glad to hear someone going at him, warms my heart
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link
it's hilarious when sway realized who he's talking about around 50 secs in
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
the monkey on yr favorite rappers back it matches yours
cn someone rap genius this
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link
it's like he took Ice Cube's "with your manager, fella" line and made a whole rap out of it
― troy na'vi (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link
crosspost in rap easter eggs thread ^
I was enjoying that and then I hit the "what's a Monkee to a Beatle" line and this is the best thing I've heard all day
― On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link
hahahaha so now I have to help choreograph a dance to "same love" for work awesome
― uppers epilepsy sh@kedown (The Reverend), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link
lol i watched it twice before realizing 80% of it rhymes with "macklemore"
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link
Yeah that's the genius part
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 23:58 (nine years ago) link
yeah, internal rhymes too, not just end rhymes
― display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 5 June 2014 00:05 (nine years ago) link
you can see the lightbulb go off
hes all yeaah no stop compose yrself
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 June 2014 01:08 (nine years ago) link
my goodness, Ali, my goodness
― alpine static, Thursday, 5 June 2014 06:23 (nine years ago) link
and yeah the Monkee/Beatle line cinched it
― alpine static, Thursday, 5 June 2014 06:28 (nine years ago) link
just wow
― riot grillz (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 June 2014 07:33 (nine years ago) link
this isn't Brother Ali but I still found it very entertaining:
http://youtu.be/XE2vKIoVhg0
― alpine static, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 00:00 (nine years ago) link
ffwd to 3:00 if you lose interest and/or wanna hear the finished product
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFTeqhskwFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ5nuy7GYcc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvqCcQ12I-s
― raih dednelb (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 10:11 (nine years ago) link
also there's a song on the new TheeSatisfaction called "Blandland" where Ish goes in a nameless rapper who's "bouncin' round looking like Hitler Youth" lol
― raih dednelb (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 10:29 (nine years ago) link
that last one in particular is great, that fatal dude is amazing flow
that line about play action bronson but not ghostface was like damn
good to see rappers explicitly addressing what's going on
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link
feel like he could Mackle less, honestly
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, "Same Problems" is definitely my favorite of the three. A couple things that may not be apparent to non-Seattlites: a) they call out not just Mack but like a dozen other local non-"street" rappers, they kinda lobbed a huge grenade; b) the location is Yesler Terrace, a housing project right outside of downtown Seattle on very valuable property, currently being torn down to make way for a mixed income development that the city hopes will include a corporate headquarters.
I wish I could link the amazing facebook thread where a bunch of Seattle hiphop figures are discussing these songs at length, but it's not public.
― raih dednelb (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
b) the location is Yesler Terrace, a housing project right outside of downtown Seattle on very valuable property, currently being torn down to make way for a mixed income development that the city hopes will include a corporate headquarters.
hmmm wow
lemme guess "mixed income" middle AND upper middle class?
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 February 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
Yesler Terrace is a post-war success story of creating low income, integrated housing with low crime rates but in order to justify it's destruction and sale to fucking Paul Allen's development company, the narrative shifted so it began to be described as "decrepit" and "dangerous". Now it's being described as having the potential to be the next "South Lake Union", aka Amazon Headquarters. While this is going on, an entire block that marked the edge of the historically black neighborhood of Seattle is being sold to developers while a 6 story "mixed use" development goes up across the street.
I don't think Macklemore is a total piece of shit, but to remain silent while the city is doing everything in it's power to marginalize the black community speaks volumes about his priorities.
― Tomás Piñon (Ryan), Thursday, 26 February 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
Macklemore is just such a weird phenomenon, like he's such an average to kinda OK at best backpacker, like it's amazing he got big when probably the highest level he should have gotten to was opening for Atmosphere
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link
his rapping is very backpacker but his music is very dance pop, hit some terrible terrible sweet spot
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
yeah atmosphere never had a hook or song as catchy as thrift shop
― Steph def def (Spottie), Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
like when we first started talking abt him on the bro rap thread he was just starting the transformation and was only comfortable doing dance ironically
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link
white rappers who are eventually remembered for one big hit usually had more than one as far as charts go - "wildside," "play that funky music," "girl i've been hurt," "black widow" (i can dream). Eminem obv achieved the full Elvis but I wouldn't be sure Macklewill.
― da croupier, Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link
yeah kinda think his superstar status is not sustainable but his core demo of college wites is very large and will support him in perpetuity
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
would assume he's going to shore up that base next go-round but i dunno, the guy did do an E! reality special, might try to go pitbull
― da croupier, Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
feel like his mastery of the craft is not high enough to pittbull
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
but his core demo of college wites
and their moms
― lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
suspect the moms will move on
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
feel like his mastery of the craft is not high enough to pitbull
oh i agree, imo his best bet would be to carve out an audience of people who would love to support eminem in his weak culture jokes and maudlin ballads but find him a touch too obscene and shouty.
― da croupier, Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link
ryan lewis is obvs the mastermind of the operation like all the hits had some non macklemore person in the chorus
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
that E! reality special just makes me wonder if he can really settle for an "Atmosphere with more name recognition and a hit" audience now that he's tasted the american music awards
― da croupier, Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
This crystallizes a lot for me; Macklemore is the hip-hop version of Dave Matthews Band.
― DJP, Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
visualize in fifteen years when macklemores fanbase is aging lol
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 February 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link
if he's lucky! could also be the spin doctors
― da croupier, Thursday, 26 February 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link
it all depends on the follow-up
feel like he has planted the proper grassroots for sustained narrow success
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 February 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link
yeah, he's still self-released right? that's smart
― da croupier, Thursday, 26 February 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link
yeah he just has a distro deal
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 February 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link
hoping at least he'll slip off the top 40 and then be the kind of guy i only hear about when people are looking at successful touring acts and going "jesus who the fuck are all these people going to see macklemore"
― da croupier, Thursday, 26 February 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link
sounds abt right
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 February 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link
the thinking man's violent j
― da croupier, Thursday, 26 February 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
― da croupier, Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:01 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Cleopatra's Favorite Cat
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 26 February 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, February 26, 2015 9:47 AM Bookmark
This is not his core fwiw.
― raih dednelb (The Reverend), Thursday, 26 February 2015 22:47 (nine years ago) link
I guess the Eastside teens who were thronging around Neumos for his free Heist release show are probably in college now, but at least around here his core audience is young af.
― raih dednelb (The Reverend), Thursday, 26 February 2015 22:49 (nine years ago) link
now if that ain't the saddest "i was there" ever
― da croupier, Thursday, 26 February 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link
http://img.youtube.com/vi/9QtlNq-K9_s/0.jpg
― da croupier, Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link
ha, I just saw the pictures. I assure you I was not there.
― raih dednelb (The Reverend), Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:17 (nine years ago) link
i think i'll have my own kids in college before "mackleless" jokes stop being funny to me
― goole, Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:18 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n
you are kind to Pitbull
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:20 (nine years ago) link
how dare you
― da croupier, Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:22 (nine years ago) link
pitbull deserves our kindness he has given us so much
― da croupier, Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:23 (nine years ago) link
frankly, considering the weak reception given to "fireball," i feel we are currently in pitbull's debt
dudes I live in his hometown -- he needs to run for mayor of Sweetwater and stay put.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link
I did see a Pitbull roll at my local sushi joint last Friday: tuna, eel, and culo.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link
oh i see you want him all to yourself, well too bad, he's mr worldwide now
― da croupier, Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link
that's not culo means
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:29 (nine years ago) link
culo is for the people
― describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link
"Culo (Pa' Mi Gente)"
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link
http://www.taquitos.net/im/sn/RedMill-CoolOs.jpg
― example (crüt), Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link
why is Macklemore wearing Harry Dean Stanton's outfit from 1989?
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link
god those raz simone tracks are awesome, esp "same problems", esp fatal yeah. and it's kind of a trip to see yesler terrace in a video. had no idea they were tearing it down :(
― describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:39 (nine years ago) link
found at thrift shop
― da croupier, Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:42 (nine years ago) link
Paris, Mackleless
― you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:59 (nine years ago) link
― da croupier, Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:42 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
walked into that one
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 February 2015 02:33 (nine years ago) link
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
pitbull is literally an extremely good rapper fyi
― lag∞n, Friday, 27 February 2015 05:54 (nine years ago) link
― raih dednelb (The Reverend), Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well if theyre not in college yet
Macklemore may be looped in with the likes of Miley Cyrus and Iggy Azalea when it comes to criticism surrounding the appropriation of black culture, but he's making a clear point today in separating himself from them.
In fact, the rapper just dropped his latest song with Ryan Lewis called "White Privilege II"—a follow-up to the original 2005 track "White Privilege"—in which he not only expresses his determination to rally behind the black community, but he also calls out both Cyrus and Azalea for their lack of attention to the people they "stole" their music from.
http://www.eonline.com/news/733272/macklemore-calls-out-miley-cyrus-and-iggy-azalea-for-appropriating-black-culture-in-white-privilege-ii
― o. nate, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:42 (eight years ago) link
in some ways I feel like Macklemore is giving black people too much attention
like, I listened to this song and for the first 5 minutes I was overwhelmed by the staggering thirst level
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link
macklemore is the thirstiest artist of our time, which is obvs saying a lot
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link
by the time I got to the end I was like "damn Macklemore; here, have a Schweppes"
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link
that commercial with him and russell wilson that comes on during football is like, who is supposed to be looking good here
― • (sleepingbag), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:12 (eight years ago) link
macklemore is really jacking brother ali's flow on that track.
― Spottie, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link
Macklemore, moar like Thirstinmore
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link
― • (sleepingbag), Friday, January 22, 2016 12:12 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hah that ad turned me against the seahawks so hard
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:21 (eight years ago) link
^^ this
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link
― Spottie, Friday, January 22, 2016 11:17 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yah it's astonishing biting
i mean i feel like the song..i dunno it's a fundamentally dumb guy trying to do the right thing?
in some ways, it might be challenging to a large part of his listenership....and it's certainly better than Eminem's narrative of how his whiteness was a handicap that needed to be overcome
as a song to actually listen to it's trash
he has a really bad voice quite possibly one of the worst rap voices ever
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link
I didn't listen to it, but my guess is it's more like a savvy and opportunistic guy who manages to convince himself he's doing the right thing
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link
His response to winning the grammy, where he said "I robbed you" to Kendrick or whatever was actually a perfect example of how white dude privilege-checking exercises can just be masked self-congratulation. I'm sure this is more of the same.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link
he just wants a nice pat on the head and for someone to tell him hes a good boy
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:57 (eight years ago) link
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive)
macklemore is the worst so im not trying to defend him or anything but this is a bit of a catch 22 situation: if he just accepts the award people would criticize him for not acknowledging how fucked it is that he won over Kendrick; if he does what he does then he's criticized for being self-congratulatory. and there is no third option, he can't literally give the award to Kendrick, i.e. he could give him the little statue I guess but that's not "the award"
― Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link
who cares?
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link
people on the internet
― Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:01 (eight years ago) link
As a fb friend said, next probably comes a song about trans people where he mentions that once he danced around in his mom's heels
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link
he did just accept the award he told kendrick he robbed him in a txt lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link
haha id forgotten that.
guess i should have read one of the 1000 thinkpieces about it
― Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:03 (eight years ago) link
he said he was gonna mention it but then the music played him off and he got bewildered lmao
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link
the best acceptance speech wldve been "choke on deez kendrick" respect the art form ffs
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link
my god what an epic fn feeb
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVoShxYWEAEjlbg.jpg
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link
ok lol
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link
music was playing, what did you expect him to do, put words to music?
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link
it can be very traumatic to receive taunting messages from the people who robbed you
― eoy_saer (wins), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link
i feel like macklemore at some point in his mind is gonna get to this point where he's like "well, i TRIED with black ppl..."
― • (sleepingbag), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link
This is the guy that took a golf club to John Arne Riise?
― saer, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:14 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZV--H4UkAA6Av-.png
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:16 (eight years ago) link
― Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Friday, January 22, 2016 10:00 AM (18 minutes ago)
i don't think ppl were criticizing him for taking the second option, but rather for how he did it (broadcasting his personal apology text on social media, which wtf)
― dyl, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link
anyway i refuse to listen to this
― dyl, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:23 (eight years ago) link
xp. ha ok now I have the full information about this that is horrendous
― Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link
oh please listen to it, please please PLEASE
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link
it is many things but "savvy" is not one of them, at least for the first 4 minutes
MACKLE LESS
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link
wacklemore more like
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSurzeGvPrQ
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link
I want to give him credit for the sentiment and the motivation but the execution is just too painful
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:38 (eight years ago) link
motivation here seems covering his own ass while throwing others under the bus
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:38 (eight years ago) link
it is kind crazy that he ever got past the level of like being 1st of 3 on a package tour with Atmosphore and Aesop Rock
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link
just based on reading the lyrics, it seems pretty uncharitable to compare this to "Accidental Racist"
I'm so not gonna listen to this though
― hi-nrg candidate (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link
oh you should
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link
there are actual moments of insight that are so thoroughly torpedoed by the music framework in which he places them that I almost feel like this song is required listening
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link
i got though 2.5 minutes of it
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link
yeah I couldn't make it through the whole thing
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link
it does honestly get better five minutes in, but those first five minutes are so hilariously terrible that I understand bailing
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link
"Sharp moments and awful phrasing + music" is essentially my critique.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link
this is longer than 5 minutes? jesus.
― hi-nrg candidate (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link
those first five minutes!
lol xp
― eoy_saer (wins), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link
the macklemore song white privilege part two gets better after five minutes
― eoy_saer (wins), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link
did Ryan Lewis play piano on this, because he is not very good
― hi-nrg candidate (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link
this thing is an overlong trainwreck but there's a minute and a half of it that I would say works well with the subject matter and how he delivers it; it's kind of a shame about the other 6 minutes and 30 seconds thouh
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link
eh sort of, but I don't think the disses are particularly unjustified - he seems to be honestly grappling with what it means to be who/what he is (a white guy operating in a black subculture) and forthrightly portraying his confusion about how to deal with that, which is a topic that is generally not addressed in pop music and is surely something his (presumably largely white) audience is familiar with. It's more direct and insightful than anything that Iggy or Miley's ever said, that's for sure. But the execution is just godawful, it's so clumsy.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link
maybe he put up this tutorial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU5ZE5QdZEo
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link
omg
― hi-nrg candidate (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link
he does favor the black keys
― hi-nrg candidate (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link
I think the Accidental Racist comparison is apt because I have laughed this much at a serious song since first hearing Accidental Racist
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link
also I think that if you don't have a grasp on enharmonics, you should not be putting out music tutorials
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link
wait but that tutorial's only 3 1/2 minutes, how do I play the other 4 minutes of the song
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZWIlfwUgAA-VYb.png
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link
"not a terrible thinkpiece" --the most charitable review yet of macklemores new song
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link
what if i actually read an article
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link
when i was in third grade i thought i was a blogger because i had a tumblr
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link
i can't believe i'm still listening to this
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link
this song has its own website http://www.whiteprivilege2.com
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link
it's also hilarious that Macklermore's apparent reaction to stealing Kendrick's Grammy is to steal the more avant-garde patchwork style of some of Kendrick's recent album tracks for a song about white privilege
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link
omg what if this whole album is mackle trying to be kendrick
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link
I am not gonna lie, I would probably buy it
the belly lols would be so satisfying
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link
"As a company (Macklemore & Ryan Lewis LLC), we are committed to a long-term investment of our time, resources, finances and creative capacities towards supporting black-led organizing and anti-racist education & discourse.
We are engaging with four initial organizations and collectives whose work inspires and informs us: Black Lives Matter, People's Institute for Survival and Beyond, Youth Undoing Institutional Racism & Freedom School (a project of AFSC and The People's Institute), and Black Youth Project 100."
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link
wld be beautiful if ppls hatred motivated him to sabotage his career
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link
well perhaps that song is the first step of the sabotage
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, January 22, 2016 1:20 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
To Mackle a Butterfly
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, January 22, 2016 12:58 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i don't know what enharmonics are but like lots of times it's just like you wanna know how to play a GnR riff or something not get a Ph.D. in harpsichord from the Little Lord Fauntleroy Academy of Music
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link
YUIR are a really awesome group here in Seattle. That's going to be my only comment here about this.
― The Reverend, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link
So is 'Downtown' Macklemore's attempt at 'King Kunta'?
― MarkoP, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link
do you understand that F# and G-flat are the same note?
when writing out a major D triad, would you write it as "D, F#, A" rather than "D, G-flat, A"?
congrats, you understand enharmonics
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link
Yes!
No! (but i don't read or music and so i guess there's no meaningful difference between what it's called it's just a fret on a string)...(actually now that i started playing in open tunings i don't know what any notes are really except the open strings)
i do now, i guess it sounded fancier than it was
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:09 (eight years ago) link
this is like piano 101 guys
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:09 (eight years ago) link
i play music from the gut not the piano you ascot wearin square
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link
― white privilege 2: the legend of clumsy scold (wins), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link
so does he mention his 3 un-deserved Grammys in this? i am not giving him the views/youtube sales by listening to this song. i have heard his music before, it is shit.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link
this is music theory in a nutshell
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link
yes lol
altho I am like m@tt in that playing guitar or keyboard I'm just like oh *that* note why does it have two names, which one is the right one? I don't care really
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link
all the black notes have to have two names
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link
isn't that kind of weird
I am not going further down this rabbit hole I swear
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link
(actually now that i started playing in open tunings i don't know what any notes are really except the open strings)
also m@tt just get a clip-on/snark tuner and it will always tell you what note you're playing (which I've found is v convenient to communicating w other players when using non-standard guitar tunings)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link
this is a more interesting conversation than one based upon "White Privilege II", y/n
― The Reverend, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link
trick question, they're both awful
ok i just read the lyrics. he doesn't mention the Grammy awards at all. this guy refuses to acknowledge his own privilege.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:21 (eight years ago) link
wait til white privilege 3
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:21 (eight years ago) link
White Privilege 3: Dream Warriors
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link
lollll
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link
Wow that song is really embarrassing, he should have called it White Guilt.
― mozart, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link
white & guilty
― Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link
so forks just pointed out the existence of the song "My Dick" by 3OH!3 on another thread and, after listening to that and looking back at "White Privilege II", things could be SO MUCH WORSE
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:56 (eight years ago) link
I thought the most effective part was the fan who starts off sounding cool and gradually gets racist.
― o. nate, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link
I didn't mind that part when I played it back (yes I played it again) but it's still kind of garbled compared to the bit immediately after it
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link
I don't think I can make it through this song but I liked this:
http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2016/01/22/23461701/macklemore-and-ryan-lewiss-new-8-minute-46-second-single-really-puts-the-i-in-white-privilege
― JoeStork, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:50 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/OGG1wxx.jpg
classique tweet
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 23:40 (eight years ago) link
Kris ex:http://m.pitchfork.com/thepitch/1003-macklemores-white-privilege-ii-is-a-mess-but-we-should-talk-about-it/
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 23 January 2016 00:14 (eight years ago) link
Macklemore should battle rap Trump.
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 23 January 2016 01:14 (eight years ago) link
"As a company (Macklemore & Ryan Lewis LLC), we are committed to a long-term investment of our time, resources, finances and creative capacities towards supporting black-led organizing and anti-racist education & discourse.We are engaging with four initial organizations and collectives whose work inspires and informs us: Black Lives Matter, People's Institute for Survival and Beyond, Youth Undoing Institutional Racism & Freedom School (a project of AFSC and The People's Institute), and Black Youth Project 100."
can we acknowledge that these are positive things or no? srs question.
― alpine static, Saturday, 23 January 2016 02:24 (eight years ago) link
i wonder waht kind of tax breaks Macklemore & Ryan Lewis LLC get
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 23 January 2016 02:35 (eight years ago) link
They are unambiguously positive things. I don't think that makes the song any good.
― its subtle brume (DJP), Saturday, 23 January 2016 03:05 (eight years ago) link
so forks just pointed out the existence of the song "My Dick" by 3OH!3 on another thread and, after listening to that and looking back at "White Privilege II", things could be SO MUCH WORSE― its subtle brume (DJP)
― its subtle brume (DJP)
Yeah, it coulda been "White Dick"
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 23 January 2016 03:24 (eight years ago) link
/Macklemore may be looped in with the likes of Miley Cyrus and Iggy Azalea when it comes to criticism surrounding the appropriation of black culture, but he's making a clear point today in separating himself from them.In fact, the rapper just dropped his latest song with Ryan Lewis called "White Privilege II"—a follow-up to the original 2005 track "White Privilege"—in which he not only expresses his determination to rally behind the black community, but he also calls out both Cyrus and Azalea for their lack of attention to the people they "stole" their music from./http://www.eonline.com/news/733272/macklemore-calls-out-miley-cyrus-and-iggy-azalea-for-appropriating-black-culture-in-white-privilege-ii --o. nate
In fact, the rapper just dropped his latest song with Ryan Lewis called "White Privilege II"—a follow-up to the original 2005 track "White Privilege"—in which he not only expresses his determination to rally behind the black community, but he also calls out both Cyrus and Azalea for their lack of attention to the people they "stole" their music from./
http://www.eonline.com/news/733272/macklemore-calls-out-miley-cyrus-and-iggy-azalea-for-appropriating-black-culture-in-white-privilege-ii --o. nate
Dying that E! had to get this up so fast that they completely missed the point of this verse
― ♫ as we get older and stop making threads ♫ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 23 January 2016 06:40 (eight years ago) link
Truly the Randy Newman of our time
― ♫ as we get older and stop making threads ♫ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 23 January 2016 06:45 (eight years ago) link
They are unambiguously positive things. I don't think that makes the song any good.― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, January 22, 2016 7:05 PM (4 hours ago)
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, January 22, 2016 7:05 PM (4 hours ago)
Agreed! I was asking to see just how committed this community is to giving dude even the teensiest tiniest shred of credit for anything at all.
― alpine static, Saturday, 23 January 2016 07:39 (eight years ago) link
http://www.okayafrica.com/news/same-love-kenya-cover-macklemore-lgbt-rights/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EataOQvPII&feature=youtu.be
― bamcquern, Monday, 28 March 2016 00:40 (eight years ago) link
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― Neanderthal, Monday, 28 March 2016 05:03 (eight years ago) link
:]
http://i.imgur.com/1dDg3bp.png
― lag∞n, Sunday, 1 May 2016 14:59 (eight years ago) link
Damn that's crazy
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 May 2016 15:12 (eight years ago) link
it's at 80k now but still pretty dire
― some dude, Sunday, 1 May 2016 15:16 (eight years ago) link
can't wait until the music industry bubble finally bursts and we learn the last CD actually sold was in 1998
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 1 May 2016 15:18 (eight years ago) link
Adele just sold 5 million CDs but that's definitely the last time that will ever happen
― some dude, Sunday, 1 May 2016 15:38 (eight years ago) link
sold them to an unmarked warehouse
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 1 May 2016 15:40 (eight years ago) link
yeah if macklemore was around in the mid 1990s he'd probably have sold like 20 million records
i guess that's what you call cosmic justice
― wizzz! (amateurist), Sunday, 1 May 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link
perhaps he will mackle less now
― μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 1 May 2016 23:34 (eight years ago) link
i mean he probably should, i feel
― flappy bird, Monday, 2 May 2016 00:20 (eight years ago) link
"mackle less"
About 2,170 results (0.48 seconds)
"mackleless"
About 6,750 results (0.56 seconds)
This doesn't feel right. I would have thought way more. Am I spelling something wrong?
― how girl's (how's life), Monday, 2 May 2016 00:32 (eight years ago) link
shit, there were probably that many results on a given day on Twitter
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 2 May 2016 01:34 (eight years ago) link
was thinking the same
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2016 01:41 (eight years ago) link
Opposite to macklemore is macklebeg u ignorant yanks
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Monday, 2 May 2016 08:06 (eight years ago) link
I just assumed most of Macklemore's fanbase have moved on to other things like Twenty One Pilots or Hamilton.
― MarkoP, Monday, 2 May 2016 13:27 (eight years ago) link
Deservedly in both cases.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 May 2016 13:36 (eight years ago) link
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/files/img/ah/g-eazy/aragon-ballroom/g-eazy-1.jpg
― ejemplo (crüt), Monday, 2 May 2016 13:52 (eight years ago) link
oh hi crüt did you have a question, you can lower your hand :)
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 2 May 2016 14:00 (eight years ago) link
Minneapolis date tickets just popped up on Groupon, ouch
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 5 June 2016 00:27 (seven years ago) link
that is exquisite
― lag∞n, Sunday, 5 June 2016 05:02 (seven years ago) link
Seriously? Even here he's playing a relatively small place, not typically befitting a multiplatinum superstar. Wow, I guess that's not sold out either? Ouch. Which buyer's remorse is worse, him or Iggy?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 June 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link
haha okay I know this was originally annnounced as a Target Center show (where the Timberwolves play) now it's at the "U.S. Bank Theater at Target Center"
U.S. Bank Theater[edit]Target Center can convert into a 2,500-to-7,500-seat theater known as the U.S. Bank Theater. The Theater contains a moveable floor-to-ceiling curtain system that allows the venue to be transformed based on specific show needs. In addition to concerts, the U.S. Bank Theater can also be used for family and Broadway shows.[24]
aka your show sold shit
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link
"Thrift Shop" rewrite: "Groupon Deal"
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link
...or the Weird Al version. Did he do a Macklemore already?
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link
He just put Thrift Shop into a polka, which is what he usually does when he can't figure out good parody ideas for popular songs.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link
I'm gonna scalp some tixgot front row seats in my pocketWhat is this, no businessthis is fucking bullshit
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 21:51 (seven years ago) link
i saw him a few years ago and it wasn't terrible in the context of how i imagined i would feel about a macklemore concert
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link
same. saw him in a 1000-cap shithole just before he broke big and he was pretty enjoyable. but i def pass for a Macklepologist around here
― alpine static, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link
he's (among others) headlining Roskilde, orange stage holds up to 70000 people... will maybe seem empty
http://drw5li4pnyc3g.cloudfront.net/2004/rf16-poster-meta-1200x630.png
― niels, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 12:24 (seven years ago) link
tenacious d is still a thing?
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link
lol I read that as Roadkill Festival, which seems about right
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link
Haters gonna hate:
http://www.citypages.com/music/macklemore-at-target-center-an-embarrassing-timeline-8343245
― King Nagl (Eazy), Friday, 10 June 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
this piece is bad
― maura, Friday, 10 June 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link
yea man check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3mC__9qNoA
― flappy bird, Friday, 10 June 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link
xpost
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
holy shit this came out 3 years ago?
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 10 June 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link
ugh this song, fucking die
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link
as the commenter suggests the Lambert line would probably be intended to reflect on her own sexuality, not Macklemore's
― niels, Friday, 6 April 2018 06:22 (six years ago) link
how did you not post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAAMQLb4ZE
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 6 April 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link
two years later:
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Friday, 6 April 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUj-65MxhEA
― hoostanbank de reason lyrics mp4 hd video download (unregistered), Friday, 12 July 2019 05:05 (four years ago) link
Ah yes.
https://www.xxlmag.com/news/2019/11/macklemore-magician-magic-rap-album/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 November 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
wow
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq-NShfefks
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
fred durst runs a magic themed jazz night in LA
white rappers are magic
― ت (jim in vancouver), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link