so this is kind of awesome
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
hearing killer mike say 'we here to eat the rich' is like seeing spider man use heat vision
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ASxmiBTzM
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
this totally bangs
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
fucking love this
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
i hope this is as good as that song on ghetto extraordinary where he says "Fuck Hitler" twice a row!
Killer Mike is great, he had me from the first, when he said "catch a beat runnin' like Randy Moss" and stared into my eyes
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
whole thing is on spotify, "reagan" is (predictably) fucking killer
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
it's funny, i was listening to it on the train a couple of hours ago and thinking that for the past few years it's been hitherto-kinda-underrated old dudes who've been responsible for the rap albums that sound most ALIVE and banging - quik & kurupt, killer mike, big boi...
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
read the thread title as "killer mike, rap's el-p, produces"
― dayo, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
kinda-underrated old dudes who've been responsible for the rap albums that sound most ALIVE and banging - quik & kurupt, killer mike, big boi...
Kool G Rap yo
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
I am excited to hear this
"southern fried" is really the only one that's ~the way i'd expect a killer mike/el-p collab to sound like, the rest is pretty refreshing
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
Love it. El-P keeps it sparser than I was expecting but with a nice booming lowend. w
― Regional Tug (irrational), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
yeah this is great so far.
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
"Go!" is awesome, so cool to hear some scratching on a track
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
Love this very much.
― Sonic adobes of stultifying hipsterdom (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
so cool to hear some scratching on a track
yeah, scratch solo is ace. does sort of take things back to the late 90s.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
spotify has both the explicit and clean versions of this album. convenient for work listening.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
Mike: Rick Ross, man...he's on another level. "So Rick, you were a correctional officer. Now you rap. How do you explain that?" Rick: "Real niggas do real things, for real reasons." I just stood up and shouted: "YES RICK! THAT'S WHAT YOU DO!" I'm a huge Rick Ross fan. HUGE Rick Ross fan. Deeper Than Rap: That was the best rap album of the year.
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/05/killer_mike_el_p_interview.php?page=4
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
love this
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
this shit bang
2 seconds into butane i thought we were gonna get gabba mike for a sec haha
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
someone send this to Morbs so he can quote Mike's lines about Obama.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
This is awesome, yes. I like the El-P record a lot too but KM is a more interesting dude to spend 45 mins with.
― Simon H., Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link
WHY THE FUCK IS THERE A GLEE COMMERCIAL ON MY FUCKING KILLER MIKE SONG
DankProductions5280 13 hours ago
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 07:37 (eleven years ago) link
+1 Like
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
got a rave review from Sound Opinions
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
does anyone not like this? finding negative reviews of r.a.p. music is like finding negative reviews of black hippy stuff
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
NME to the rescue!
Fast off the back of last year’s ‘PL3DGE’ LP comes Grind Time Official star Killer Mike’s sixth full-length outing. Built on a somewhat uneasy collaboration between the OutKast protégé and Def Jux founder El-P, it’s a set of two halves whose hands won’t hold. Mike’s an angry, earthy rapper and his standard “hardcore G shit” (‘Big Beast’) chips and bumps against his producer’s strained attempts to lift it skywards with spacey electro noodling (‘Don’t Die’). Worst of the back end is ‘Reagan’ – a politi-rap analysis of the Iran-Contra scandal. It’s a relic – a meandering, studenty thought piece that’s been dug from the ratty recesses of the ’90s West Coast conscious scene. Mike has dabbled with politics in the past, and even made unlikely forays into experimental soul, but ‘RAP Music’ lacks the fury and vitality that usually sustains him. The ambition is to be applauded, but half the album’s a grind. And not the good kind.
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:02 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark
i would listen just for the possibility of putting a negative review into the world but i don't want to break the 14-year streak of avoiding el-p's music that i've managed since back when that one stupid co flow video used to get played on rap city
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
I find the political history more interesting than the politics of strip clubs.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
...this time.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
I wasn't completely sold on this... Lots of interesting lyrical stuff, but I was disappointed that Killer Mike still has the same monotonously aggressive, punctuate-every-other-word, flow as when I last listened to him 10 years ago, when Monster came out. That combined with El-P's heavy beats, which are okay, but kinda too compressed and too busy throughout the album, make thw whole thing hard to listen except in small chunks, despite its shortness. IMO Vast Aire was a better foil for El-P's style, and the Cannibal Ox beats also had more air in them, which is kinda lacking here with everything being so in-your-face.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 31 May 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link
Also, the label this was released on seems to be otherwise specializing in albums by cartoon characters, what's up with that?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 31 May 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
it definitely was surreal to look on the back cover of the CD and see the Adult Swim and Grand Hustle logos next to each other
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
Adult Swim have had a Stones Throw connection for a while
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link
I hated Company Flow in the 90s too, but I think El-P has gotten much better as a producer since then. The beats on the Can Ox album are on a whole different level than the beats he did for Co Flow. He still sucks as a rapper though, but the Can Ox album (where he only has one guest verse) is definitely worth checking out.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link
just gonna throw my opinion that el-p has never been involved in the creation of anything less than great, and that he's also a pretty damn good rapper, into the ring here.
― caulk the wagon and float it, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
Tuomas do you find it difficult to listen to amerikkkaz most wanted or it takes a nation.... ?
― sisilafami, Thursday, 31 May 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
i'm still half-ehhhhh and half-sure-okay on el-p as a rapper, but i've never not liked anything he's done as a producer since the turn of the millennium.
this album is amazing btw.
― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
this is great. so is the new el-p 'cancer4cure'. old dudes in rap otm.
― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
it's pretty good but def. overrated and people are glossing over the flaws - production gets pretty monotonous over the span of the album and the choruses are boring. the choruses are even more of a problem on cancer4cure.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
the skits and speeches on "Don't Die" and "Reagan" unnecessarily stretch those tracks.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
this is way way better than cancer 4 cure which i found as wearily worthy, if not actually awful, as every el-p thing i've heard
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
the politics might be the worst thing about rap music, it's all a bit...standard conspiracy theory BS
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
and the bit where he goes on about worrying whether women will change their names is seriously eyeroll-worthy, he seems an old dude in the bad sense there
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
It's more complicated than conspiracy drivel, lex. He's pointing the finger at his community for falling for the likes of Reagan, both Bushes, and Obama: "We should be indicted for bullshit we incited." Plus his tone and timbre are A+.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the best thing about "reagan" is that he acknowledges rap's history of bullshit conspiracy theorizing even as it falls prey to it a little bit
― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
killer mike contains multitudes, etc.
i mean it verges on bill hicks style "every politician is a servant of the corporate overlords" simplification but the first verse's implication of mike himself (as well as rap as a whole) for selling violent pulp as a lifestyle and the second's life-someone's-lived specifics almost earn it.
― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
standard rap conspiracy theory shit rules lex!
you sound like someone that's never truly beheld a pale horse :(
danity kane is illuminati politricks >:(
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
mike's politics, at least what he presents on record, are a little simplistic, but i think it's good that at least someone is putting these kinds of lyrics out there. n/a otm about the hooks and tunas otm about his flow - i like it in small doses but it does get tiring after a while. and to tie this all together, his flow does seem to stiffen up when he's trying to deliver those political punches, which make them harder to take
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
that was all kind of a mess sorry, ftr i agree with most of deej's stoned twitter thoughts from last night if anyone else read them
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
the amount of love for this record really does baffle me though, i'll never understand what makes p4k types rally around a certain record, especially rap albums. this sounds like every other killer mike record.
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
this sounds like every other killer mike record.
^^this is why i like it
though i think ghetto extraordinary is still his best record
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:35 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
k3v are you kidding, the title may as well have been "best new r.a.p. music" when they announced the fucking thing
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
seriously
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
well also they've been pretty supportive of his last couple of albums so it's not really weird that the trend would continue for a new album that sounds like his others
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah don't get me wrong i like it and killer mike. pledge 2 is probably my favorite mike. it's just always funny when this kind of attention seemingly comes from nowhere. and good for him, he's had a nice career and deserves the buzz
xp m@tt
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, May 31, 2012 5:35 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Has little to do w Killer Mike and mostly everything to do with El-P, imo.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
well it's the combination of El-P's production and the idea of Killer Mike as an underrated craftsman who's been toiling away all these years
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:40 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh yeah i get this, on some level it was a business decision. and it was a smart one! i'm not knocking him for it or anything, and like i said i'm glad he's getting the wide attention he's apparently getting now
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
outside of "reagan" this album isn't really more or less political than any other killer mike album
i think the production is good, i think El-P did a good job of trying to make his style work with mike's more southern style and it's a good hybrid IMO
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
agree
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
apparently only the clean version is available on spotify smh
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
?? i am listening to the explicit version on spotify as we type
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
lol i forgot that the last thing i heard killer mike on was a song called "slumerican shitizen"
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
all time song title
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
i really like some tracks on the killer mike fwiw
its def not surprising that this record is big & its not that i don't think good criticism hasn't been written about it, more that once something hits this critical consensus mass i feel like it's no longer about what's happening on the record & becomes a kind of boring general enthusiasm. where you end up hearing people talk about the record in revered tones
its at least a more singular / less uneven record than that big boi one everyone went nuts for, even if i like some individual tracks on that one more
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
While I agree (2nd para), what can you do? Just not talk about it?
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
i agree but i don't know what you want to do about this? i think people are pretty much honestly reviewing the record and just like it a lot. you might have some people who are just following consensus and reviewing positively because everyone else is but this gets balanced by the knee-jerk contrarians. it's more just a problem of too much criticism in general.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
maybe the thing going on is some people don't listen to much southern rap unless there's a wite auteur type co-signing it (see also "climax" being probably the most acclaimed song of usher's career)
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Lol the first I realised "everyone's talking about it" was seeing everyone talk about how everyone's talking about it
Having lived with it for a couple of weeks the immediate impact def wears off, it doesn't even have the repplay value of big boi let alone quik + k. Totally a fine album but doesn't merit instacanonisation (not that any album does really)
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Climax surely not husher's most acclaimed! That's yeah, right?
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:21 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
are we living in some imaginary world where southern rap hasn't been dominant for like a decade and embraced by pitchfork types for a long time?
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
acclaimed relative to its success would be more precise i guess -- "yeah" was #3 pazz & jop, "climax" prob won't be that high
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
i mean ppl in THIS VERY THREAD have reviewed gucci mane mixtapes on big bad pitchfork
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:24 PM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i didn't say how large a group "some people" is or how much it intersects with "pitchfork types" although obv i'm trolling here
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
also i think it's pretty natural honestly for the general critical community to be late on something that genre critics/nerds have been raving about for months or years
there are, uh, def other aspects to why people care about this mike album, but that's one of them
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
"something" is a stupid term, i mean "artists"
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:19 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah and when i raised stuff on twitter i got accused of all kinds of hipster contrariness or what have you. & fair enough, i can say that i was kind of ready for this to be what we all agree is great & that kind of put me off to begin, although i have def come around on some tracks & the production on it.
i mean, rather than being like, 'i wish more people hated this' its more like, i wish this was making more waves, or causing more discussions, that it almost feels like by being so uncontroversially agreed-upon that its the same as when something is universally reviled, the battles arent being fought over it
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
i'm kinda suprised Fox News hasn't tried to drum up something with the "i'm glad reagan's dead" line, seems like that would be fun for those guys
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
i mean tbh i stopped paying attention to mike bigga (lol) around the time pitchfork dropped a FIVE STAR TRACK REVIEW on that stupid "that's life" song so dude has coded as overrated critic bait to me for 6 years
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
plenty of good writing/criticism can come even when almost everyone agrees
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
well, if you mean, causing arguments isn't a measure of quality, i agree
but when its so politically coded, surely that has to be taken into account?
maybe i'm just used to years of hearing about nwa being targeted by the fbi, how incendiary ice cube records were, the response to 'cop killer,' etc.
i guess lots of critics really supported PE though too
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
holding mike up to the social agitation standards of NWA or ice cube seems a bit unfair
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
the state of 'political rap' on a mainstream level at this point is just kanye saying the same "the government invented aids!" shit over and over and lupe fiasco managing to look dumb next to bill o'reilly. below that level of media exposure it's not like what someone as relatively unknown as killer mike is going to cause any controversies OR change anyone's mind.
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
no one now coud ever have that level of impact like PE or NWA. it's a different world. plus at that time rap was still relatively new to america.
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
yeah things are definitely different now, but the problems NWA & PE were talking about are still here.
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
no, the police have been fucked, they won iirc
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
Mike's politics are definitely more interesting than the average simplistic "conspiracy" rap bull, and def more nuanced here than they were on, say, "Burn" - and anyone for whom the "politicians are killers/corporate shills" angle seems reductive/simplistic...I think I'd better just stfu about this right now.
― Simon H., Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
no stfu-ing allowed, thats why we're having discussions about this
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
his writing feels a little more forced on the political joints or maybe my listening gets a little more critical when you are talking about the drug war vs banging some strippers.
― bnw, Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
i guess its privileged of me to suggest that what killer mike is saying is the unspoken subtext of street rap, like, most ppl don't receive street rap that way & there's obviously an audience for this, so why shouldn't they enjoy it?
maybe what i'm feeling is this sense that mike is doing the writers' job for them & maybe thats why he's so beloved; illuminating the context for the genre so the writer doesn't have to. or that writers really like it because what he does is closer to what they do. i dunno just thinkin baout things
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
the 'reagan' track does stick out as a clunker lyrically to me, i quite like the beat tho. I think I prefer pl3dge to this one, but I still dig it.
― pandemic, Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
with "that's life" and "reagan" there's like a big initial hit of "oh this is awesome" but then like 5 plays later I don't need/want to hear it again. like the message has been received and there's not much to get at beyond that.
― bnw, Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
the track i really didn't like was 'country fried.' if it was big k.r.i.t. no one would talk about it. i like reagan more.
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
is mike's first proper album w/ clunky songs like a.d.i.d.a.s worth going back to? i still bang pledge 1 & 3 (don't have 2 for some reason, should sort that.)
― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
yes
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
pledge 2 is dope as well. 'grandma's house' was my shit
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
'i'ma shine' was my favorite off the first pledge. speaking of, SL Jones dropped a project this week too all produced by DJ Burn One
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
that tape is really good. Think it's Burn One's best production job to date
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
agreed.
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
This album is amazing and still like the third best Killer Mike album. Another one for the latepassapedia
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 31 May 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
how do u rank them?
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
MonsterPl3dgeR.A.P. MusicGhetto Extraordinary [unreleased album from 2005, awesome stuff]Pledge Allegiance to the Grind 1Pledge Allegiance to the Grind 2
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 31 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
it floors me that ghetto extraordinary never got a formal release
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 May 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
1 pledge 22 rap music3 pledge 14 monster5 pl3dge
ghetto extraordinary is indeed awesome
― sisilafami, Thursday, 31 May 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
yeah pledge 2 is the shit
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
i forgot about this "underground atlanta" thing -- my interest is perked retroactively
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
this album is better than big boi's, i'll say that much
nah prefer Big Boi's, only because BB has the gift for picking weird sounds and giving T.I. a better moment to shine.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
that underground atlanta comp mike did was TERRIBLE. really bad if i remember right
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
ha, really? shit.
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
Huh, weird on Spotify desktop the real album shows up, but only the clean version shows up on my phone. Unless I'm doing something wrong, which I probably am.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
hit the "dirty" app
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
maybe I need to get a whole new dirty phone
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:00 PM (36 minutes ago)
it was kind of whatever iirc - good pill song and a couple other ok joints but other than that it sucked
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
also iirc was like 30 songs?
oh ha what d-40 said
this album is a banger
― Snowqueen's Icedragon (crüt), Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
Bit more of a chitty chitty bang bang. Especially next to Schoolboy Q who is exceptional.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 1 June 2012 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
you are trolling me.
― Snowqueen's Icedragon (crüt), Friday, 1 June 2012 01:35 (eleven years ago) link
Not at all. I just don't like the album that much, no need to take it personal.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 1 June 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
apparently his next album is gonna be produced by burn one. should be dope.
― The Reverend, Friday, 1 June 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
nice
― Number None, Friday, 1 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
didn't think to check if there was a thread; been loving this since it dropped and the single is a MONSTERwith a very Driver influenced zombie video that i can pass onbut likely track o' the year material; best bun b feature i've heard in forever
― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
New video for Big Beast is pretty cool and very NSFW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8-RmM5py1c
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
lol the first 3 or so minutes i was like oh this isn't that band then o_O naked zombie chicks eating brains
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 June 2012 01:54 (eleven years ago) link
first video to directly rip drive?
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 8 June 2012 02:33 (eleven years ago) link
kinda diminishing returns on this album
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 8 June 2012 07:58 (eleven years ago) link
oh man, that video.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
album gets better with each listen
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
It's really good, but while half of it feels natural, another half feels like producer + MC. I've been obsessed with Mike since I first heard him. My ranking:
1. Pl3dge2. pledge 13. rap music4. ghetto extraordinary5. pledge 26. monster
― paulhw, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
kinda need to see this live i think
― Authorities don't know who shot the 50 Cent the goose. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
oh shit that reminds me...
i think the last two tracks are amazing.
― pvmic bellvm (goole), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
The whole album is impressive, but I think the back half is stronger.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link
just getting around to hearing this. awesome stuff.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
maybe my fave album this year
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, it def has a shot at being my #1 right now.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
"Willie Burke Sherwood" is my jam
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
I've deliberately avoided everything with El-P's name on since someone on ILM conned me into buying 'Fantastic Damage' 10 years ago and while I like this a lot there's something profoundly unfunky about most of the beats here. Obviously Mike himself slays and the production makes up for its clunkiness with sheer force but in practice I don't really want to go back to it that much.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
it is kinda of cramped
― goole, Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
it had really rapid diminishing returns for me, was initially really into it but already could not care less
― lex pretend, Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
'kinda of' ha whoops
― goole, Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
i think this record is pretty inconsistent & wish i'd read what felt like a very honest piece on it because it also has some great songs
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
I will stand up for everything but Anywhere but Here
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 August 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
"Jojo's Chillin" for me.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
aka the best song on the record
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 16 August 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:08 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
write it!
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
It's an impressive record that's short on replay value.
― Vagelis (The Reverend), Thursday, 16 August 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah. I listened to it a lot for a couple of weeks, haven't felt any need to play it ever since.
― Tuomas, Friday, 17 August 2012 10:34 (eleven years ago) link
i have similar feelings about it - something about the beats is just exhausting, too trebly, too harsh for headphones
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 August 2012 11:36 (eleven years ago) link
get a hi-fi, man
― catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 17 August 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
I don't find it that trebly, (then again there's a fuckload of really trebly rap production from the last few years) and it packs a lot of punch. "Cramped" is the right word maybe. Kinda lumbering as well.
― Matt DC, Friday, 17 August 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
Production is just fine.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Friday, 17 August 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
Y'all are using words like cramped and lumbering like it's a bad thing.
― yodarman, Friday, 17 August 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
Seriously tho
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
oh noes this sounds like weird old noisy 80s rap records halp
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
not really
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 August 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
if anything the opposite, everything's bright, crunched, maximized. i don't want to make a big deal out of it though. just the way it seems to me.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 August 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
and it doesn't remind me of the 80s at ALL. except maybe a little of jo-jo's chillin. i dunno, i guess i just don't like the beats all that much. still some great songs though. i love mike's rhymes and his delivery and sometimes the beats don't really get in the way. but it's not really all that "killer" to me. i can't think of any songs on here that you'd put on and the whole room would go "ohhhhhh shit" which is a shame!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 August 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
this sounds like those weird old noisy sounds my butt used to make in the 80s
― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Friday, 17 August 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
u weren't even alive in the 80s
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Friday, 17 August 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
oh, i was quoting whiney there
― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Friday, 17 August 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
if anything the opposite, everything's bright, crunched, maximized
yeah it may be 80s in spirit but sonically? gtfo
― Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
can u guys stop this he means it sounds like public enemy or mantronix and it does, not "rappers delight"
― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
Rappers Delight was from the 70s bro
― Number None, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
i wasn't even alive in the 80's cut me some slack
this does not sound like Public Enemy to me at all, this is not a sample collage record - it's a lot of compressed distorted guitars, synth washes, farting moog basslines, no drum loops all programming, etc. Mantronix eh okay maybe here and there.
― Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
I guess rapping about Reagan is pretty 80s
― formerly EDB (ed.b), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
haha
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Saturday, 18 August 2012 00:07 (eleven years ago) link
to be real there's a few songs on here i think are awesome. just dont think its a slam-dunk classic record or w/e
jojos chillin is p dope
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Saturday, 18 August 2012 00:56 (eleven years ago) link
now that killer mike is calling himself the rap bill maher on twitter maybe folks will rein it in a bit
― protected by kl0pper. stand back (D-40), Monday, 20 August 2012 00:13 (eleven years ago) link
― Vagelis (The Reverend), Monday, 20 August 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
clearly a slam-dunk classic recordor w/e
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 August 2012 03:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/tv/youtube/13-music-videos/373-killer-mike-untitled-official-music-video/
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
The vinyl comes with a bonus instrumental LP, a free poster and what is most certainly the coolest download card I've ever seen--the flipside of the card is a picture of the sticker-covered ghetto blaster from the album art. This doesn't sound like much, but it made the already-cool experience of unwrapping the vinyl even cooler in this particular case.
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Saturday, 8 September 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
Has there really been no discussion of Run the Jewels yet?! Both tracks I've heard have been great, especially loving the production on 36" Chain.
― ORK OUT (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 11:05 (ten years ago) link
Excited for this.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
ditto
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
full thing supposed to drop this month right? "get it" is excellent.
― thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link
especially loving the production on 36" Chain.yeah this song rules
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link
Run The Jewels album now available for free download!
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link
Loving this. These dudes are on fire.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
thks for the heads up, sicko
― Me and my pool noodle (contenderizer), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
fookinell
― Me and my pool noodle (contenderizer), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
saw Killer Mike open for GZA last year. his a capella version of "Reagan" was amazing. looking forward to round two.
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link
bump because people should grab/hear this
― alpine static, Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― The Reverend, Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
yes yes
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
so yeah, this rules
― DJP, Friday, 28 June 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link
a little too much EL-P for my taste but the title track and "Sea Legs" and "Banana Clipper" slam.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 June 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
^^
also DO DOPE FUCK HOPE
― Romantic style in da world (crüt), Friday, 28 June 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
ok so what's up with Prince Paul showing up to put a molly in the girl's drink and tempting her with Beefeater and UNO cards
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 June 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
haha I was just gonna say that seemed bizarre
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 28 June 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
Bad Boy.
― The Reverend, Friday, 28 June 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
liking this more than the last one
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 June 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
Yea I'm in on this too
― Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 28 June 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
great
― a hand, palming an ilx face forever (Hunt3r), Friday, 28 June 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link
I like this most when it's straight up banging, the more grandiose productions kind of lose the vibe.
― voivod songs that mention poutine (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 29 June 2013 03:19 (ten years ago) link
"get it"-- nothin novel, but beats by defibrillitor paddle. what i wanted right now.
― a hand, palming an ilx face forever (Hunt3r), Saturday, 29 June 2013 03:57 (ten years ago) link
finally getting to listen to this. Love the opener. Thunderous beat, love the trade-offs.
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 29 June 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
"now come over here and let me give you a tongue kiss on your hot pocket"
ahhh, Prince Paul
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 29 June 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
its good, all the way solid, el-p and mike sound great, but the beats arent quite as surprising as i wished they were, esp after playing this after yeezus. you kinda know what an el-p record will sound like now dont you? i guess thats not a bad thing, but as someone who used to love co flow and can ox and fandam, i hope that weird/fucked up/fuck what you think el-p comes back at some point, if only a little bit.
― StillAdvance, Saturday, 29 June 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
I hated the last one so much, there isn't enough room in my heart for this one.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, 29 June 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link
yeah i like this
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Sunday, 30 June 2013 00:30 (ten years ago) link
get it & no come down are bangers
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 30 June 2013 00:32 (ten years ago) link
love this. i think i prefer el-p in banger mode vs. weirdo mode.
― precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Monday, 8 July 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
"i sent they mom a little cash and a sympathy letter / told her she raised a bunch of fuck boys, try and do better / bitch"
― i better not get any (thomp), Monday, 8 July 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
i had no idea this record had even happened. amazing
― i better not get any (thomp), Monday, 8 July 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
I'm not really sure what a fuck boy is.
― This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Monday, 8 July 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
basically a "punk"
― Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 8 July 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link
― This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte)
a boy you fuck
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 July 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
Spottie otm
― how bad could it be to be stuck to the couch, forever... (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 July 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
show is incredible, mike solo set and despot set highlights (who knew despot could hold a crowd like that?)
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 21 July 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
kool AD about the definition of an "opener." low wattage, he's rapping more straightforwardly than on a lot of recent tracks (which to me is kind of a relief but also less interesting for being less divisive), no way this guy could come after anyone else.
anyway it's all about mike's solo set. he loves his own words, but he should. sometimes after a song he just keeps going and re-raps his favorite verse(s) a cappella. in other hands it would be pretentious but he earns it. the density (of sound and meaning) in that first verse of "untitled" is a thing to behold.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 21 July 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
will catch them in a few hours
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 July 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
see u there boo
― jaymc, Sunday, 21 July 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
Wish I liked this more. I like Mike and I've been a fan of El's since Indelibles, but lyrically, this isn't hitting me at all. I mean it sounds fine, but it's not sticking with me after it ends. Maybe I need a third pass.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Sunday, 21 July 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
^^^This is exactly how this album is hitting me
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 21 July 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
Or failing to
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 21 July 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
I think I agree but Run the Jewels just sounded awesome live so
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 July 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
Mike reigns in El's worst tendencies but El doesn't give Mike enough room to do what he does best so yeah it naturally ends up better than Cancer 4 Cure but not as good as R.A.P. Music. Still a fun album tho.
― suggest bando (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 July 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
i like it fine while its on, but i dont really have the need to return to it much. i like the fact its just mike and el-p going back to back, but something about it just seems kinda samey after a while. like it gives you exactly what it should sound like, but not much in the way of anything else (i.e. surprise). but then i wasnt a huge fan of cancer 4 cure - my least favourite el-p album (though i should return to it just to make sure) and RAP music was cool, but a bit too knowing of its whole 'bringing political rap back' angle.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 21 July 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link
See, I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm more interested in RTJ for El than Mike. And I liked (but did not love) Cancer For The Cure and felt like Fantastic Damage was kinda slept on.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Sunday, 21 July 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link
RAP music was cool, but a bit too knowing of its whole 'bringing political rap back' angle.
this is just a terrible thing to say. you kiss your mother with that mouth?
― IIIrd Datekeeper (contenderizer), Sunday, 21 July 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
i know it sounds horribly cynical and maybe im just being challopsy. i didnt hate it, i liked a few songs on there quite a bit, but in general i liked it more in theory than how it sounded. part of me misses the killer mike of 'monster', stankonia or 'the whole world' even.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 21 July 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
yeah, i just love that album (RAP music), listened to it so so many times last year
― IIIrd Datekeeper (contenderizer), Sunday, 21 July 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
by "'bringing political rap back' angle" do you mean that the album had some political songs?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 22 July 2013 03:44 (ten years ago) link
also even if y'all don't love their recent records you should still see them live b/c
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 22 July 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link
AGREE!! I made it to the park in time yesterday to catch his solo set and the one with EL-P and Killer Mike is my new favorite person.
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 22 July 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link
amateurist, i was at that show, killer mike's set was fucking powerful. it was fun to watch the rap show cops chewing gum and trying to act casual.
i never really checked out r.a.p. music but i'm gonna go back to it now.
― precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Monday, 22 July 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link
(i liked despot's banter better than his songs, not that they were bad. he's rap game mitch hedberg for sure.)
R.A.P. Music wasn't anymore "bringing political rap back" than any other Mike album, it just got more press bc an indie kid-beloved producer laced it
― thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Monday, 22 July 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
jordan we should meet up one of these days, sorry i haven't been to one of your shows yet i'm like a fucking hermit these days
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 22 July 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
definitely, i think we know some of the same people! it's ok man, i'm terrible about going to shows that i'm not playing (this was the first one in a long time that i was really excited about).
― precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Monday, 22 July 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link
i loved Mike when I saw him open for GZA last year. think I said it itt but he did an all acapella "Reagan" where he was basically HOLLERING "I'm GLAD REAGAN DEAD" over and over at the end, while the crowd was roaring.
was great hearing him do some of his oldest Monster era shit too.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 22 July 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link
i think we should all just agree to really like killer mike and maybe have our "friend" shelly give him a note
― IIIrd Datekeeper (contenderizer), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 01:27 (ten years ago) link
when i first heard them talking about run the jewels i thought they were saying "run to jewels" (a local grocery chain "jewel" +s, which is how lotsa ppl say it) and it was like LOL it's about going to Jewels but nostill, i got the free download and it's soooooooo goooooood "get it" is my favorite so far http://vimeo.com/69520103
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 July 2013 03:54 (ten years ago) link
Seems like a good place to post this - El's old boy Nasa has a new solo album that I've been into this morning. This is the dude who worked on The Cold Vein, lotta Aesop and Co Flow stuff, etc, was sorta Def Jux's in-house engineer. Was also in The Presence, who did an apparently-very-slept-on 12" on Jux back in the day that I've never heard. Anyway, RTJ fans may feel this.
http://uncommonrecords.bandcamp.com/
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 25 July 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
lol at the "I'm Bad" reference at the beginning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_rwa4ZbKgA
― suggest bando (The Reverend), Friday, 2 August 2013 10:56 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/4qQaES5.png
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Sunday, 4 August 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
poster needs to work on his pickup lines, ain't gonna bring nobody back to the pad with wack game like that.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 4 August 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
I'm feeling this album
― dmr, Monday, 5 August 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link
DO DOPE FUCK HOPE
― j., Monday, 19 August 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
"get it" is still my jam
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 19 August 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
this is a badass EP
― One burly voice screamed and that was one of many. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye-w0RFasJ0
so good to hear El P say they are officially a group
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 8 September 2013 23:48 (ten years ago) link
Man that's such a joyous interview.
― Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 9 September 2013 06:17 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ5rI461KNE
― Meg White America (Eazy), Sunday, 22 December 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
Goddamn. That's great and I hope it means they're recording new stuff.
― alan watts, he made me hot (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 22 December 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link
that was on the album; it's advertising a remix disc
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 December 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link
these are the best people on earth
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Monday, 23 December 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link
<3
that was on the album
Wow, my memory is gone apparently. Well anyway, cool video!
― alan watts, he made me hot (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 23 December 2013 07:58 (ten years ago) link
Run the Jewels 2 is up there with my most anticipated albums this year and the teaser sounds great.https://soundcloud.com/productomart/rtj2-blockbuster-night-part-1-snippet
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link
link don't work
― gbx, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link
huh, was working a minute ago. soundcloud seems down all over.
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
okay, live now.
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
what's up with no one telling me that there are run the jewels instrumentals on spotify?SO GOOD
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link
I can't possibly fathom listening to Run The Jewels and wanting to isolate the El-P half of it.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link
i know, it's crazy -- and yet, i love itit's like a totally different album!
"get it" is still my favorite but it's not the same without killer mike
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link
the instrumentals are sick, can't wait for the new one.
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
gah me either!
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link
agh i can't stop listening to thesewhat else sounds like this?
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link
how wd you differentiate it from el-p's solo work
― imago, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link
i don't know enough to say honestly -- is his stuff instrumental?
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link
oh my absolute word
there are instrumentals of his stuff but he's also an excellent rapper - wordplay levels set to fiendish, spits legit &c
all three of his albums are brilliant but my favourite is the second one, 'i'll sleep when you're dead'
you owe it to yourself to investigate
there are also company flow/cannibal ox instrumentals but you shd really listen to those albums with aire/vordul involved coz they bring a lot of character & are also good rappers
― imago, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link
i know he is an excellent rapper, i just wondered if he had more instrumental albumsi can't listen to rapping while i work -- too distracting! but these instrumentals are lending massive bounce to my otherwise headache-inducing day
i'll check it out -- cannibal ox?
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:27 (nine years ago) link
he did an album with Matthew Shipp! it doesn't sound much like Run The Jewels though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Water_%28El-P_album%29
his beats are generally leagues better than his rapping imo
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link
yeah but his beats are some of the best electronic pop music ever imo
― imago, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link
cannibal ox's album 'the cold vein' features some of his best production work and is available in instrumental form. it's fairly regarded as a monolith of underground rap (to the extent where it isn't rly very underground)
― imago, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
god it feels so good to just be able to type this shit on a board where 3than doesn't post
― imago, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link
R.A.P. Music holds up very well
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link
i like this cannibal ox album alright but it's a little cold for my personal tastethe RtJ instrumentals are totally sizzlin that's what i'm looking for i guess
will check that out crut -- thx
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link
it's a cold world out there
― Number None, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link
has anyone trolled this thread yet
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link
??
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link
― imago, Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:47 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― imago, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
self-consciously 'conscious', undie, backpacker, experimental, 'new levels', weird 'avant-garde' art rap
just ttly went mainstream, so u can't rly troll it any more, soz. el-p was always a pop artist anyway, haha
― imago, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
just kinda sad this is where killer mike ended up
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link
imago have you ever heard boogie down productions
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link
I get more embarrasses, year on year, for liking niceguysofokcupid rap favorite 'the cold vein'
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link
*embarrassed. seriously tho it is painful for me to hear at this point. i am progressing to the point where the shades of blue-grey on the cover art make me queasy, as does the word 'ox' when encountered in other contexts such as 'ox-tail soup' and 'xb-ox'
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
at some point in my thirties i imagine I will be on public transport and some algorithmically determined internet 'radio' will serve me with a track from 'fantastic damage' and my heart will shrivel and stop and I will literally actually die of shame
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link
lol i feel u
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link
Wow I hadn't realized this was such a fraught topic.
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link
its tuff
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link
you guys have issues to resolve.anyway, new album in a month or so.
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link
forks is eagerly anticipating this lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link
show us yr blogs
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link
only if you're an overly self-conscious white guy who likes hip hop
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 23:58 (nine years ago) link
um a perfectly self conscious white guy
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:07 (nine years ago) link
what about perfect white guys
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:09 (nine years ago) link
perfect white guys are too busy cataloging the glyscemic index of their foods to listen to undie rap
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:11 (nine years ago) link
perfect white guys rapping in undies
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:11 (nine years ago) link
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 6:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ha ha def jux forever get therapy
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:17 (nine years ago) link
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:19 (nine years ago) link
I remember downloading some mix lagoon put on ilx a long long time ago and it was like all kelly clarkson
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:21 (nine years ago) link
I love the shit out of Fantastic Damage. There are instrumentals around, but I'd rather listen to the lyrics. What's a good rap album, lagoon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3-Q6zgXl6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJkfTfud4iU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhZT3jAZtJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxvqhlwtlIY
― how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:22 (nine years ago) link
def jux is my therapy man *puts on headphones and just zones out into the ill lexicographical cypher*
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:22 (nine years ago) link
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:21 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
uh that sounds like a kelly clarkson album get yr facts straight i am strictly grimy beats mad visual flows
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:25 (nine years ago) link
mad poop flows, morelike
― mookieproof, Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, there's tons of terrible undie rap but The Cold Vein is pretty classic imo.
― Man, when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot, I mean she was (intheblanks), Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:29 (nine years ago) link
don't worry everyone, liking the cold vein doesn't negate the other rap you like, and it doesn't automatically make you "that guy"
― Man, when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot, I mean she was (intheblanks), Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link
― mookieproof, Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:28 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i rap solid stools while the haters drool / i got sick ass beats with cool sounds like brrrrr and oooool
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:31 (nine years ago) link
that has nothing to do with this thread tbh but this thread madeleine'd me into a rememberance of clicking on a mix hoping it would be good and it being kelly clarkson maroon 5 mashup after mashup
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link
that does sound good tho idgi
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 6:15 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hahah this is so perfect
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:35 (nine years ago) link
my heart will shrivel and stop and I will literally actually die of shame
it's sad he was a herb
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:42 (nine years ago) link
*michael drop*
― Five Lofts Left (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 August 2014 02:55 (nine years ago) link
Imago have u heard killah priest
He's got some awesome tattoo the star of david on my esophagus/petrochemical post millennial sarcophagus/dromedary Islamic octopus type shit u might dig, way genuinely weirder than can ox could ever be
― ra's al goole (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 August 2014 02:59 (nine years ago) link
^ thees
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:02 (nine years ago) link
theres a story that he was supposed to be the final wutang member but he fell asleep on the studio couch and they used masta killa instead
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:02 (nine years ago) link
too bad because masta killa sux
on the other hand napping on couches is p sweet
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:03 (nine years ago) link
LJ, I'm not gonna take the time to ilx search to see if you're already an avowed fan but I feel like aesop rock could be some realhttp://images.rapgenius.com/ec0a1637eba3e8a7c1ac72c2de7ffd51.436x361x24.gifshit for you
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:05 (nine years ago) link
Also Capoadonna was supposed to be in but he was in jail
― ra's al goole (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:05 (nine years ago) link
yeah they let him in
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:06 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:02 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hey now no said date is a pretty good album
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
i have never listened to his solo work, his other verses are notably the worst tho
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:19 (nine years ago) link
also the cold vein is awesome, dunno why anyone would have ~issues~ w/ the liking of it
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:29 (nine years ago) link
El-P's beats clomp more than they stomp that's my basic issue with this whole Run the Jewels deal
― nova, Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:56 (nine years ago) link
Killah Priest 'heavy mental' lp is a personal classic. Good rec for LJ.
― FKATlovestofu better (Spottie), Thursday, 28 August 2014 04:36 (nine years ago) link
lag∞n even if you are only in it for hearing other wu members in looser form you should check the first two masta killa records
― schlump, Thursday, 28 August 2014 04:56 (nine years ago) link
two
― The Reverend, Thursday, 28 August 2014 06:27 (nine years ago) link
lol ty folks
i feel i come closer each year to a sincere appr'n of 'mainstream' rap - when i cross this rubicon, it'll be like there's no functional difference between the 'two' sorts. a happy day indeed
― imago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 07:55 (nine years ago) link
LJ just assuming you already know Dr Octagon but if not run tell dat
― ra's al goole (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link
i got the octagonecologyst record, what i've heard of it is p sick in >1 sense :D
― imago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:27 (nine years ago) link
check out Dalek
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:29 (nine years ago) link
m8, I been proselytising Dälek for like 3, 4 years now, they're my favourite rap group (vmic)
― imago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link
someone's gonna say New Kingdom now lol
― imago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link
http://rymimg.com/lk/f/l/56381fcbb4d87130b54425bc46376001/4891392.jpg
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:55 (nine years ago) link
If you like to hear some actual rap music, I'd recommend Divine Styler's third album, Word Power 2, it has some awesome cryptic Islamic lyrics with a dystopian sci-fi tinge, and cool, dark electronic beats too. Spiral Walls... is basically an experimental rock record made by a rapper, with loads of aimless noodling, that for some reason has gained a cult status. (Maybe because at the time no rapper had done anything like it?)
― Tuomas, Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link
that's one way of putting it
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link
It's so funny that Divine Styler was put on by Ice-T & that the Rhyme Syndicate album has both DS and Everlast's first appearances
― ra's al goole (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link
Ha this made me go through some old records, dude you need to check out 13 & God, collabo between Notwist & the hip hop group Themselves
― ra's al goole (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:45 (nine years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/39/Gas_Chamber_(cover).jpegcheck this shit out louis, some real out there cloud type shit
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:03 (nine years ago) link
guys it's 2014, everything is everything.
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link
but if you want some new art rap shit, there is Hellfyre Club.
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link
festival culture (Jordan)Posted: August 28, 2014 at 11:11:32 AMguys it's 2014, everything is everything.
damn when did this happen
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link
idk a few months ago i think
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link
Also check out Why?, Latyrx, Brotha Lynch Hung, Poison Clan
― ra's al goole (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
Hey where are all my recommendations? I'm the one who asked!
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link
migos
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link
― ra's al goole (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:53 AM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
:)
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
srsly everyone who reacted to this straight fire beautiful vulnerable post with "lol get help" wow u r dumb and prob not very cool to be around
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
Yeah f those people
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
I like the post before that one better tbf
― FKATlovestofu better (Spottie), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link
yeah I was feeling that one myself actually
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
idk maybe i'm just kind of bored by undie-bashing. That whole scene mostly petered out more than a decade ago, and it's not like most of these dudes are living high on the hog.
― Man, when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot, I mean she was (intheblanks), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link
feel the same way about post-rock bashing, to use an analogous genre
when you gaze into the backpack, the backpack gazes back
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link
point is, fans of music that slavishly flatters yr intelligence, that post was self deprecatingly saying "lol look how hung up i am on this trivial thing", and then you all were all "lol cant u see how hung up u are on this trivial thing boom roasted hi5*
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link
it was more an ott response to seeing the "when i was a fool i loved def jux but now i'm a grownup who listens to dipset" story still having legs twelve years later
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hmmm
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link
lots of bold stands here against unpopular independent label rap music from 12 years ago.
― Man, when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot, I mean she was (intheblanks), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
xpost yeah?
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:37 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― Man, when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot, I mean she was (intheblanks), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link
otm theres no way these guys didnt get a joke^^
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link
yeah, or it was kind of a lame joke one or the other
― Man, when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot, I mean she was (intheblanks), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
probably it
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
sorry i didn't think it was fire like you did
― Man, when I tell you she was cool, she was red hot, I mean she was (intheblanks), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
prob to busy carrying a torch for defunct rap blog beef
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
still not really seeing why you think "lol Def Jux forever get therapy" is anything but me being ridiculous in response to someone else's ridiculousness. talk about a faulty joke detector...
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 August 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link
talk about a faulty joke detector haha right fellas
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link
i actually kinda like run the jewels
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 28 August 2014 18:10 (nine years ago) link
i dont really industrial music but killer mike is cool
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 August 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
If you like the artsier end of backpacker rap, with spoken word stuff and off-kilter samples and all, you might enjoy The Infesticons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF8pDmgCoRQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZVRkIMrIY
A few years later the same folks released another album as The Majesticons, this time the idea was to parody rap trends of the era. The parody might be a bit dated 10 years later, but the album still sounds remarkably good. Doing populist rap in the name of satire actually meant there are some really fun and catchy tunes on the album, much moreso than on the decidedly backpacker Infesticons record:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xmWZ2Tn1ck
― Tuomas, Thursday, 28 August 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
Sorry, the last Youtube was supposed to be this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUJlmIlbvWM
― Tuomas, Thursday, 28 August 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
LL, did you check out the clipping record?
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 28 August 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link
i still need to know if imago is an aesop rock fanthis is important to me
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link
recommended: RATKING
― the late great, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link
His beats are sort of impressive in a kind of bludgeoning funkless way but, speaking as someone with a lot of love for bad rapping, El-P is one of the worst MCs I've ever heard.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link
i don't like any of this wordy undie shitnot that anyone asked me but
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:18 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark
is this "clppng"?
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2GozE6XEqg
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link
I have Labor Days on my computer but I don't know how much I like it coz I basically only listen to my music on shuffle mode without knowing what half of it is. There's a lot of good rap - sometimes I track it down, usually turns out to be Def Jux or Five Deez or something
(where is your and what now, ILX, lol)
apparently Aesop Rock has a massive vocabulary, which is cool I guess
CLIPPING is one of the best things in music right now, obv
― imago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link
xp - got it -- i'll check it out as soon as i am not in an office
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
In the interests of sending this thread somewhere more positive I would point Imago in the direction of the most recent Shabazz Palaces album.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
i'd like to point imago out of this thread so we can go back to talking about killer mike
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link
:( i've not even rly been driving this welter of reccies, ppl are projecting their altrap peccadiloes onto me (not unwelcomely). basically the next RTJ needs to drop right now or this won't get resolved
― imago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
cool, last one then: imago, try labor days a bit more as it actually reminds me of your posting style
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
like ace would totally rhyme "altrap peccadilloes on me" with "metal plated armadillos homie"
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link
a recommendation that doubles as a zing! take 'em all i spose. also lol
― imago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link
no zing! i genuinely think you're kindred spirits!
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link
copyright ruckus when u sample tarkus
― imago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link
ratking > clipping
― ra's al goole (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link
alt rap vs atl rap vs al trap
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link
atp rat
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 29 August 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
that's when you sit in a chalet taking pills listening to the vague echo of a de la soul concert
RUN THE JEWELS TOUR DATES 10/15 - College Station, TX - Hurricane Harry's %10/18 - Tulsa, OK - Cain's %10/20 - Little Rock, AR - Stickyz10/21 - Memphis, TN - Minglewood Hall %10/22 - Nashville, TN - Exit/In10/23 - Birmingham, AL - Iron City %10/24 - Columbia, SC - Music Farm %10/25 - Charleston, SC - Music Farm %10/31 - Philadelphia, PA - Theatre of Living Arts *11/1 - Washington, DC - 9:30 Club *11/2 - Charlottesville, VA - Jefferson Theater *11/3 - Carrboro, NC - Cat's Cradle *11/4 - Atlanta, GA - Masquerade *11/6 - Dallas, TX - Trees *11/7 - Austin, TX - Fun Fun Fun Fest11/8 - Houston, TX - Fitzgerald's *11/10 - Phoenix, AZ - Crescent Ballroom *11/11 - La Jolla, CA - Porters Pub *11/12 - Pomona, CA - Glass House *11/14 - San Francisco, CA - Mezzanine +11/15 - Portland, OR - Hawthorne Theater *11/17 - Salt Lake City, UT - Urban Lounge *11/18 - Englewood, CO - Gothic Theatre *11/20 - Minneapolis, MN - First Line Music Café *11/21 - Madison, WI - Majestic Theatre *11/22 - Chicago, IL - Metro *11/25 - Detroit, MI - St Andrews Hall *11/26 - Toronto, ON - Danforth Music Hall *11/27 - Montreal, QC - Club Soda *11/28 - Boston, MA - Paradise *11/29 - New York, NY - Stage 48 *12/30 - Lorne, AU - Falls Festival12/31 - Marion Bay, AU - Falls Festival1/1 - Sydney, AU - Field Day1/2 - Byron Bay, AU - Falls Festival1/4 - Busselton, AU - Southbound Festival1/7 - Sydney, AU - Enmore Theatre ^1/8 - Melbourne, AU - The Forum ^1/9 - Brisbane, AU - Hi Fi ^1/10 - Auckland, NZ - Town Hall ^ % Red Bull Sound Select show* with Ratking & Despot+ with Despot^ with Joey Bada$$
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link
i got an email from RTJ this morning and 1) got my tix for the show, see you there assholes and 2) the new song is great and i listened to it 2x in a row
also i listened to clipping and it was alright, but not really electrifying to me for some reason
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 15 September 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link
Is there anywhere to get the first RTJ record these days? This thread has piqued my interest.
― how's life, Monday, 15 September 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link
i dunno, it's on spotify if that's your thingprobably youtube tooif you mean LP, i have no idea but the new ones are for sale i loled a lot at the bonu$ packages, starting here
'I'm On The Fucking List, Asshole' Package: $7500Run The Jewels will put you on the all access guest list plus 1 for any Run The Jewels show anywhere and up to 10 shows. You (and not your plus 1) will be welcome in our back stage before, during and after shows as well as be allowed to hang for soundcheck and load in if you find that sort of thing interesting, have full access to our backstage rider which includes a deli meant tray, various cheeses, a bottle of Henessey, grey goose and various energy bars. We will share our weed with you and let you yell at our tour manager. We will pretend to like you and will introduce you to our friends as our “friend”. Run The Jewels requires a half an hour before stage time to not have to deal with you and your fucking yammering in order to do our pre show stretches, vocal warm ups and crying.
RTJ2 4xLPRTJ2 T-shirtRTJ2 CDSigned PosterStickers1 of every merch item we are selling on tourTearsDeli trayYelling
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 15 September 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
there's also a package where you get to buy the album remixed out of cat sounds for 40k; that one comes with a disclaimer saying they have the right to just take your cash and not do it.
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 September 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link
lololthe one i posted was just the first one -- it gets increasingly funny from there
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 15 September 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link
Is there anywhere to get the first RTJ record these days?
Record stores, or http://store.foolsgoldrecs.com/search?q=run+jewels
― dave matthews' gland (sic), Monday, 15 September 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link
Huh first album and instrumentals just added to Spotify for the first time.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:56 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
still v proud of this psot
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
imago, try labor days a bit more as it actually reminds me of your posting style― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, August 28, 2014 7:22 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, August 28, 2014 7:22 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol @ this
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, September 15, 2014 7:47 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
btw (since this appears to be the thread where we talk about RtJ), somebody started a kickstarter that is now 2/3 of the way to paying for "meow the jewels"
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Thursday, 9 October 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link
I'm glad all that money saved from not having to buy albums anymore is going to good use
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 October 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link
El is donating his portion though
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 9 October 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link
Mentioned this on Twitter yesterday but how do these dudes get a free pass for "fuckboy"? Pretty clearly a homophobic term, they use it all the time, still get glittering press in Pitchfork etc. I know it's an issue in rap in general but seems especially glaring for RTJ who seem to have little to no audience outside the indie market.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link
didn't realize "fuckboy" was homophobic tbqh
― example (crüt), Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
i think a lot of people don't
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link
yeah i see ~social justice~ people use it all the time in the #misandry vein
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link
as far as i know, there's no evidence that fuckboy is homophobic beyond "it sounds homophobic"
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link
It's a ghey area
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link
I honestly was super stoked to hear "fuckboy" on RTJ because years ago there were a couple of loud drunken rednecks who lived a couple houses down from my wife's mother's place and they would be up late and yelling the word "fuck" all the time, and she started referring to them as "the fuckboys" and I like to think my 60 something small town mother-in-law was some sort of rap slang pioneer.
― joygoat, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
i thought it was prounced like fart-boys
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
pronounced
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
i wondering the same thing tbh, and i'm p sure it's at least historically homophobic (like 'punk') even though it seems now to just be generally derogatory (at least if urban dictionary is to believed, ~which it totally is~)
― gbx, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
It's hard for me not to read it as a way to use homophobic language but with plausible deniability. There might not be specific evidence but it's not just they way it sounds, it's the way it's used and the context it's used in. But one good way to find out would be to actually ask El-P and Killer Mike about it instead of just not talking about it at all.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
i mean, dudes also say things like "you punks is pussy proverbial pansy panty-holders" and "you can all run naked backwards through a field of dicks." They're about alpha male hardman shit and emasculating their foes in their art, which is a tradition that goes back to 35 years of recorded rap ("he's a fairy, I do suppose, flyin through the air in pantyhose") and beyond.
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
whoa i totally didn't know that
― gbx, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link
http://www.teabreakfast.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/kermit-tea.jpg
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link
they should build up not tear down
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link
really wish rappers had kept going in on Superman
― example (crüt), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
my take is, given that the entire genre of macho hardman battle-rap is vulnerable to these critiques, I'll take the rappers who use 'plausibly deniable' homophobic language, & do so in a creative way, over the ones who are about telling people to eat a bag of dicks on every other track
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link
... & yes, I acknowledge my complicity in the societal power structures that create a desire for imaginary rap hardmen v_v;
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link
dudes also say things like "you punks is pussy proverbial pansy panty-holders"
this sort of makes me want to do a Fake El-P thread but it would probably stop being funny half a joke in
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link
it would be hysterical for longer than that but would still inevitably got bogged down in both people being like "lol omg def jux/backpacker shit was SOOO STUPID HAHA" and then former or current fans of that shit saying that nobody got it/gets it
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 October 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
what do you guys think of the new single tho
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 9 October 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link
Its good there all good imma def jux dickrider
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Thursday, 9 October 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
*duckrider, fuckin autocorrect
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Thursday, 9 October 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
both the singles have been goddamn great. bit more down with "oh my darling don't cry" but by a small margin at best
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 October 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
i think old ILM can take some credit for this: https://twitter.com/ystrickler/status/520335503414267905
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 9 October 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link
http://jezebel.com/a-brief-taxonomy-of-the-fuccboi-rip-1638331191
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 October 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link
first time i thought i heard "fuckboy" in rap was mystikal's big truck boys which i always heard as "Buckle up boy/ain't no fuckboy" but rap genius thinks i'm wrong
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 October 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link
I could swear Onyx says "see you in the next life, fuckboy" in "Nigga Bridges"
― sink floyd (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 9 October 2014 22:56 (nine years ago) link
Sugarhill Gang said "Clark Kent y'all some fuck boys" iirc
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 October 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link
wait, yancey strickler, former ILXOR, is the CEO of kickstarter???
― I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 9 October 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link
Yup
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 October 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link
where you been mang?
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 October 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link
o_O
― goon kabuki (The Reverend), Friday, 10 October 2014 10:35 (nine years ago) link
"Blockbuster Night" is top 5 rap songs of 2014 for me
― ILOVEMASONNA (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
Run The Jewels - El-P and Killer Mike
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 October 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link
Still a great album, but it’s really getting hard for me to like this guy:
https://www.spin.com/2018/03/killer-gun-ownership-nra-video-watch/
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 25 March 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link
it's completely valid to push back on white liberal conceptions of gun control (for a lot of reasons) but choosing to do so on NRA TV was a really fuckin bad look and I hope he acknowledges that instead of doubling down
― Simon H., Sunday, 25 March 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link
I saw someone on twitter defend him by saying it's no different than going on Fox news, which basically everyone does, but I don't think that holds up
― Simon H., Sunday, 25 March 2018 15:08 (six years ago) link
I hope he acknowledges that instead of doubling down
― Simon H., Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:07 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
last night on twitter it seemed like he was...doing both? or splitting the difference? doubling down on his message (nb i didn't see the video) and also saying that he didn't really care about the NRA as an organization, it was just an opportunity to get his side out there
― gbx, Sunday, 25 March 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link
I think him bragging about threatening to kick his kids out of the house if they march is going to make me ignore him from now on
― President Keyes, Sunday, 25 March 2018 15:49 (six years ago) link
yeah that was bullshit
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 25 March 2018 15:56 (six years ago) link
never heard of him before he hooked up w/ Bernie so i aint invested
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 25 March 2018 16:21 (six years ago) link
the bernie quote that was like 'well i was worried he was an actual killer, but now i understand he is just a killer rapper' is still adorable but ya fuck this guy
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 25 March 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link
― President Keyes, Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:49 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 25 March 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link
fwiw none of this stuff is new? like, i think he's been pretty open about his views on gun ownership for a while
― gbx, Sunday, 25 March 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link
There's a difference between nuanced opinions on gun ownership and claiming you'd toss your kids out of the house if they participated in a march for Gun Control.
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 25 March 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link
In that, one I probably don't agree with (but just as likely don't have enough info on), and the other is despicable.
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 25 March 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link
showing up on a video clip for an org that has a history of being for gun restrictions, but only when black men show up with guns, seems like a bad move
― mh, Sunday, 25 March 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link
from a good thread picking apart the appearance
Overall thoughts. People who are drawing a comparison between Killer Mike on NRATV and Leftists on Fox News are incorrect. This is not really a nuanced conversation on Gun control or the history of Black gun owners, it's sole purpose is to have a black face parrot talking points— The People v. Brandon Sutton (@PrettyBadLefty) March 25, 2018
― Simon H., Sunday, 25 March 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
love how this guy goes from genius to idiot pawn of the machinations of the nra just for having a non-partyline opinion and not being as white as bernie. racists.
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 25 March 2018 22:35 (six years ago) link
to clarify, 'racists' --> ppl like those in the above quoted tweet, not the ppl posting in this thread
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 25 March 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link
Brandon Sutton is black, you absolute moron.
Anyway, RL Stephens takes a different tack.
The truth is that when NAACP leader Robert F Williams organized a community defense program against the Klan in NC in the 50’s, the group was chartered by the NRA. This story is more complicated and politically contested than we often acknowledge.— R.L. Stephens (@RLisDead) March 25, 2018
― Simon H., Sunday, 25 March 2018 22:53 (six years ago) link
the NRA in the fifties was not the NRA of the '90s and today. I'm sure the Tweet feed goes into this discussion.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 March 2018 22:56 (six years ago) link
WOW so was the person who said this
"We've got to take the neighborhood back. We've got to go in there. Just forget telling your child to go to the Peace Corps. It's right around the corner. It's standing on the corner. It can't speak English. It doesn't want to speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk. "Why you ain't where you is go." I don't know who these people are. And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. Then I heard the father talk. This is all in the house. You used to talk a certain way on the corner and you got into the house and switched to English. Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't land a plane with "why you ain't…". You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth. There is no Bible that has that kind of language. Where did these people get the idea that they're moving ahead on this? Well, they know they're not, they're just hanging out in the same place, five or six generations sitting in the projects when you're just supposed to stay there long enough to get a job and move out."
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 25 March 2018 23:00 (six years ago) link
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:56 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
narrator: it didn't
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Sunday, 25 March 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link
kinda uninterested in any exoneration of the nra after the revolt at cincinnati
I said nothing about "exoneration." It's a fact that the NRA before 1968 was a different organization.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 March 2018 23:12 (six years ago) link
oh no, im not directing that at you, thats to RL's thread/simon
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Sunday, 25 March 2018 23:18 (six years ago) link
uh me neither?
― Simon H., Sunday, 25 March 2018 23:22 (six years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/news/killer-mike-apologizes-for-nra-interview-in-new-video-watch/
There's a lot here that makes sense, even if the timeline doesn't quite clear up his "march right out of the house" remark, but I still question the very idea of appearing on "NRA-TV" (which I didn't even know existed until today).
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Monday, 26 March 2018 00:34 (six years ago) link
xp sorryyyyyyyyyyy just to rl's thread
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Monday, 26 March 2018 00:52 (six years ago) link
*vindicated for hating run the jewels all along*
― flopson, Monday, 26 March 2018 03:39 (six years ago) link
getting sassed again:
Killer Mike gotta take a year off of being woke. pic.twitter.com/mJrXfrKRKJ— Vince Valholla (@VinceValholla) April 8, 2018
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link
killer mike is a fucking ninny
― k3vin k., Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link
wanna rethink that one, k3vin?
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link
ok had to google "ninny racist" and yeah, apologies, mods please change to "jackass"
― k3vin k., Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
*googles quickly*
oh good, reckon we can get about a hundred posts on whether nincompoop is a derivation of pickaninny or not
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Sunday, 8 April 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link
oof getting sonned by joy ann reid must be truly mortifying
― Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 23:54 (six years ago) link
He went after her?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 April 2018 00:39 (six years ago) link
He did indeed...badly.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 April 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link
...apart from the instagram comment Alfred posted?
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Monday, 9 April 2018 00:56 (six years ago) link
And that is what I meant.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 April 2018 01:02 (six years ago) link
and I was answering Simon with an eyebrow raised
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 April 2018 01:20 (six years ago) link
I see no Joy-Ann Reid fans on ILX, just shaking heads at how ridiculous Mike's been
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 April 2018 01:21 (six years ago) link
KM makes up with JAR (he's going on her show), backs off from the NRA, and endorses the Socialist Rifle Association, which I just learned exists
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhl0jEXjjZq/?hl=en&taken-by=killermike
― Simon H., Monday, 16 April 2018 00:55 (six years ago) link
well their reddit is certainly excited about it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SocialistRA/
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Monday, 16 April 2018 02:11 (six years ago) link
Mentioned this on Twitter yesterday but how do these dudes get a free pass for "fuckboy"? Pretty clearly a homophobic term, they use it all the time, still get glittering press in Pitchfork etc. I know it's an issue in rap in general but seems especially glaring for RTJ who seem to have little to no audience outside the indie market.― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:33 (six years ago) link
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― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link
fuck·boy/ˈfəkˌboi/Learn to pronouncenounVULGAR SLANG•DEROGATORYa weak or contemptible man.a man who has many casual sexual partners.Definitions from Oxford Languages
― not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link
is kinda funny that ILX went from tut-tutting the usage of the word cos of their collective incorrect understanding of what it meant to using it, if not often, at least 'regularly', if I use ILX search to confirm (which I just did)
― not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link
where is the outrage over "punk" which is far less ambiguous? or all the dick sucking stuff. which I'd have hoped these dudes would have grown out of
tbf I do recall at least el-p using the bad f word in the past but (no excuse) that was rampant back then. I still wish he would stick to making beats. which I feel used to be a more common opinion than it is now
I first heard fuckboy in reference to people like bieber & if anything it was about overbearing heterosexuality as well as general dickheadery. it could have a homophobic resonance on occasion but there's far more blatant stuff surely
― Left, Thursday, 15 July 2021 12:47 (two years ago) link
lol i had no idea 'punk' originally was a homophobic term
searching around and it seems like 'fuckboy' did sometimes have homophobic connotations in the past but that usage had largely disappeared or been overshadowed as it got popularised as a slang term last decade
― ufo, Thursday, 15 July 2021 12:56 (two years ago) link
In prison slang "fuckboy" and "punk" mean basically the same thing
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 July 2021 13:08 (two years ago) link
"punk" is ancient homo argot
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 July 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link
About 20 years ago a couple of dumb redneck guys were often at the lake house down the road from my inlaws and they would set off fireworks late at night and constantly yell "FUCK" all the time so my wife and her family all started calling anyone who was loud out in the woods 'the fuck boys'.
I was super confused when I heard the first RTJ record and didn't know how they picked up slang that my 50-something midwestern mother-in-law invented.
― joygoat, Thursday, 15 July 2021 13:53 (two years ago) link
you can go back just a couple of years earlier in the killer mike discography and find some much-less-veiled homophobic terms. "fuckboy" is a step up.
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 July 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link
I've got some bad news about ATCQ
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 July 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link
i was enjoying BORN LIKE THIS the other day until "batty boyz" came on, this shit is everywhere
― Left, Thursday, 15 July 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link
yeah that blatant homophobia is hard to ignore, especially in dancehall
― bart harley-jarvis cocker (voodoo chili), Thursday, 15 July 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link
i say dancehall cause that's where doom got the batty boyz slang from
― bart harley-jarvis cocker (voodoo chili), Thursday, 15 July 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link
yeah it was basically the f-word equivalent at my school
― Left, Thursday, 15 July 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
oops Killer Mike's got Chappelle on his new track
― made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 09:07 (one year ago) link
DBNS
― Left, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 12:24 (one year ago) link
That was really disappointing to see. Feels like a misreading of a large part of the audience he's gained since Run the Jewels blew up, but then again I see a lot of uncritical praise for the songs on Twitter so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link
Not sure how big the Anti-Chappelle Rap fan contingent is
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link
The Chappelle intro is easy to skip at least. It's gross but not really surprising - KM hasn't taken issue at all with TI's creepiness about his daughter or any of that, BFFs with Bill Maher, etc..
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link
not to mention appearing on NRA TV
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link
I can understand that appearance, as he believes in Black gun ownership as a means of self-defense given the lack of support from police, which makes total sense to me in the current climate. He was a bit naive to think the NRA wouldn't pervert why he was actually appearing, for their own reasons, which is why he apologized afer.
― Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link
*after
― Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link