1996: In the Meantime vs. Tattva

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vote for the best/least egregious

Spacehog:
http://youtu.be/TDkhl-CgETg

Kula Shaker:
http://youtu.be/2bYj2o7y4rk

Poll Results

OptionVotes
In the Meantime 20
Tattva 9
Flag Post for Moderation. 7


Mark Ruffalo! is gonna tell us! about empathy! (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

i like both but voted for the one what made by the guy named royston

some dude, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

lol xp

Mark Ruffalo! is gonna tell us! about empathy! (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Voted for Kula Shakur. Wankers, but it's not like they made Urge Overkill look humble like those other guys.

pplains, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks, LLB. I never ever thought I would have an occasion to vote for Kula Shaker on ILM in my life, but here we are.

Can the winner go on to face Gay Dad?

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

This is really hard - - - "Tattva" blew my mind when I was 15 and I listened to K religiously through til college or so, but gun to my head, I'd rather hear "In The Meantime" right now. So, that.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

after you reminded me of the existence of "Hey Dude" yesterday i realized how much more i like that than "Tattva"

some dude, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

I like "In The Meantime", it's fun to sing that "woohoohooheehoohoohoohoo wo-oo-oo--oo-oo-oo-oo" part

rules that it's in Rock Band 3

even when britpop was "a thing" in the USA everyone knew that Kula Shaker was a step too far; I couldn't help but think of George Harrison hearing it & saying "what hast I wrought"

Euler, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

Even though I noted what an irredeemable piece of shit Resident Alien was in the other thread, I do still like "In The Meantime". I mean, it was enough to get me to buy the irredeemable piece of shit. Kula Shaker never inspired anyone to do anything but snore.

Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

i have plenty of love for the bassline from itm

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

^otm

Mark Ruffalo! is gonna tell us! about empathy! (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

man i hadn't listened to tattva in years and it is irredeemably lame

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

itm is one of those songs where even at the time i couldn't reconcile the equally strong feelings of "why the hell am i listening to this" and "this is awesome"

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

otm

some dude, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

my dislike of Bowie wannabes is so strong that even my opinion of Bowie sometimes suffers for it, but "In The Meantime" is alright with me

some dude, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

No fan of tattva, but "in the meantime", I can't stand

• The Bowie delivery
• The ubiquitousness of it in 1996.
• Its status as a "recurrent" track when I was doing modern radio.
• The whole Liv Tyler thing.
• My always getting it confused with the Helmet song.

But I do always root for a bass-playing lead singer. Can't I vote for Type O Negative instead?

pplains, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

after you reminded me of the existence of "Hey Dude" yesterday i realized how much more i like that than "Tattva"

― some dude, Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:08 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Where do you stand on "Mystical Machine Gun?"

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 21 May 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

i stand in a place of not wanting to re-listen to any other Kula Shaker songs besides those 2 and that surprisingly decent cover of "Hush"

judas, a scary ho (some dude), Monday, 21 May 2012 02:42 (eleven years ago) link

Love how "Flag post for moderation" is an option here. Voted "In The Meantime", but wouldn't it be great if option #3 won out here? I honestly have no idea if I've ever heard another song by either of these bands. Did either have a follow-up hit?

do dat do dat do do dat dat dat (thewufs), Monday, 21 May 2012 02:48 (eleven years ago) link

::tries to yell "Mungo City," finds that a hand is covering his mouth, is dragged backstage::

judas, a scary ho (some dude), Monday, 21 May 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link

I guess I didn't know "In The Meantime" was the title of that song. I had to listen to it to remember it. It's okay. "Tattva" is no great shakes either, but something about the Spacehog song bugs me. "Tattva" is innocuous, so wins by default.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 21 May 2012 02:54 (eleven years ago) link

However, both videos should be shot into space never to return.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 21 May 2012 02:55 (eleven years ago) link

In The Meantime by a Mungo City mile

da croupier, Monday, 21 May 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link

Miles are much shorter in Mungo City, iirc.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 21 May 2012 03:03 (eleven years ago) link

The city I live in, the city of Mungo.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 21 May 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link

^dont forget to glass yourself with a jar

The record will show I did not actually use the words "Mungo City..." oh damn!

Doctor Casino, Monday, 21 May 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link

"In The Meantime" rules

billstevejim, Monday, 21 May 2012 04:24 (eleven years ago) link

After the band was dropped by Elektra Records, Spacehog signed with upstart label Artemis Records and released its third album, The Hogyssey, on April 10, 2001. The album continued the band's neo-glam approach and featured the singles "I Want to Live" and "At Least I Got Laid", as well as a funk version of Richard Strauss's "Also sprach Zarathustra".

voted Flag Post for moderation, I didn't need to end up finding out about this shit

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but this poll is comparing individual songs, not the band as a whole

billstevejim, Monday, 21 May 2012 04:51 (eleven years ago) link

"I Want To Live" and "At Least I Got Laid" were ok.. kinda forgettable overall

billstevejim, Monday, 21 May 2012 04:52 (eleven years ago) link

How are you even in a position to have an opinion on that.

Tim F, Monday, 21 May 2012 04:59 (eleven years ago) link

Ginger baker, bagel, trout farm!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 21 May 2012 06:45 (eleven years ago) link

xp "forgettable" meaning like, everyone else forgot them except me

billstevejim, Monday, 21 May 2012 06:57 (eleven years ago) link

Ginger baker, bagel, trout farm!

― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, May 21, 2012 2:45 AM Bookmark

still love this

Doctor Casino, Monday, 21 May 2012 11:36 (eleven years ago) link

Hey that Spacehog song starts with a Penguin Cafe Orchestra sample

Heaven knows I'm thirsty and miserable now (NickB), Monday, 21 May 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

^ probably common knowledge but I had never heard that spacehog song before

Heaven knows I'm thirsty and miserable now (NickB), Monday, 21 May 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/sorry-about-the-swastika-says-kula-shaker-singer-mills-1268161.html

just to remind people that a vote for kula shaker is a vote for nazism

da croupier, Monday, 21 May 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link

I knew about the singer's "oooh i love a good swastika" scandal, but I didn't know about this.

Five years ago, Mills was unknown. He and Marcus Mac-laine, who was the partner of Mills's actress mother Hayley for 12 years, had formed a band called The Objects of Desire. According to Maclaine, they gave it the motto "England will rise again". The group did the usual round of clubs and backstreet venues making a limited impact on the music scene.

But in 1993 the band was lined up to play a far bigger gig at Wembley: a conference entitled "Global Deception" at which speakers included a notorious anti-semitic propagandist Eustace Mullins and a leading US militia writer, William Cooper.

Cooper, who stepped in as compere at the conference after the right-wing, militia-supporting DJ Anthony J Hilder failed to appear, has reprinted the anti-semitic forgery, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which was used by the Nazis to justify the Holocaust. Mills later went on to thank Cooper on Kula Shaker's hit album K, which reached number one in the album charts in September last year.

da croupier, Monday, 21 May 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link

just a bit of harmless nazism

Heaven knows I'm thirsty and miserable now (NickB), Monday, 21 May 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link

o_0 <(Holy shit!)

balance:

Mills responded to the allegations by fax and his responses were incorporated in the article. Mills admitted having played at "Global Deception", but claimed not to have fully understood the nature of the event. He indicated that he now felt that the swastika, which has origins outside Nazism and different meanings in different parts of the world, was hopelessly connected to Nazism in the West. He indicated that it was the outrage that his comments had sparked that had led him to this conclusion. He also offered an unequivocal condemnation of far-right-wing ideology.

"I think there is no better example of my naivete and insensitivity than the swastika comments . . . my comments derive from my long interest in Indian culture, from which the swastika has its origins . . . I apologise to those who have been offended by my comment and humbly ask that they accept that I am completely against the Nazis, their crimes and any other latter-day form of totalitarianism. For the record I have never been an anti-semite especially as my dear grandmother was Jewish . . . I loathe totalitarianism, far right thinking, oppression of all forms, denial of human rights and all things that would limit the free spirit of humankind. I stand for peace, love, generosity and learning."[15]

Now, there is one word that smells off in this..

Mark G, Monday, 21 May 2012 13:04 (eleven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

That Spacehog song was actually amazing!

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link

How is the vocal in any way Bowiesque?!

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:07 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

i care not, i still think that 'in the meantime' is fucking brilliant.

as indeed are several other tracks on the bands debut album.

subsequently, i have just one-clicked the bands follow up album for pocket money.

better than gay dad though ?

hmm, not so sure on that one.

mark e, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link


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