rolling 2012 UKG interzone bubblers thread

The thread in which we post and talk about tracks that DJ Q plays or we could imagine him playing.

So:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9satrX2vYQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPZIuM6JKds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3ObpwLzzpk

This is a bit off-topic (and in the second post, "lol") but all those links in this thread are dead and it makes me very sad. The return of this sound is great though, "Brandy & Coke" is truly wonderful.

The youtubes above? They load for me?

Or do you mean the old BUBBL-AH thread?

Also this can maybe the thread where we talk about Nick Hannam who is owning my life right now:

http://soundcloud.com/nick-hannam

Who would have thought the space between UKG and like Yolanda Be Cool would be even worth exploring, let alone uncover such treasures?? This guy has basically one trick but I love it (check "You Want Me" and "Love You Girl").

Disclosure is hitting a nice spot recently. I'm also fond of this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1784zI9Hi8

that TS7 is kinda astonishing

This one is lovely and destroys the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCsjDA2JsoA

I think i prefer the original "Running" to the Disclosure remix. Been listening to both of them a lot over the past few days though

help me r|t|c, you're my only hope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNGAvNBZOCA

lol didnt check the above video, another song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PimESrl5wE

can i post here or are you going to tell me to take it to partisans

Depends on what you post.

Srsly though vahid would love to hear yr thoughts on this stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsvPRhfU69Y

BTW anephric "Flow" is fabulous.

I thought you would!

Another release on UTTU... this clip has both tracks on the release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIowHgTj6Dc

http://soundcloud.com/swindleuk/do-the-jazz

http://soundcloud.com/twoplates/swindle-feat-takura-have-a-go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxHtclUAyLo&feature=related

i always try to bookmark these songs in my mind to hear when they come out and then forget them by the time they do

i mean the swindle ones in this case, not particularly excited about joe goddard's work

The CRST guys are pretty wicked.

http://soundcloud.com/theratcatcher/nightlife-cat003

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Sd5GW00qo

Kinda suprised Disclosure are getting plays by him they sound like a bad generic post-dubstep impressions to me.

Oh yeah check the P Jam mix he did for us: http://www.sonicrouter.com/2012/02/p-jam-sonic-router-x-uncle-albert-mix/ its full of these vibes.

Hypnosis by Illmana

http://boomkat.com/downloads/469521-illmana-menace-ep

JG - Skip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mIRzMqG9dQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhvccM6UOnY

Mistamen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM1zCJa1RLg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxnGHM97WZE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkSgShjzY60

speaking of mista men, this remix of shox's tombstone is amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaPUSwoZMc

I think this might be my new favorite thread.

I Can't Wait by Brackles

http://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/asp/view_product.asp?id=30555

speaking of which, the brackles album is pretty great.

I've not heard it yet, but I'm looking forward to it.

Looking forward to this coming out too.

http://soundcloud.com/twoplates/ruby-lee-ryder-terror-danjah

Mista Men

1. Mella Dee - The Way It Was (Unreleased)
2. Loki Boi - One House (MIsta Men's Mr Bumps House Remix) (Young Gunz)
3. Mista Men - Relentless (Unreleased)
4. Mella Dee - Confetti (Unreleased)
5. Mista Men - Hard Drive (Unknown To The Unknown)
6. Mista Men - Babycham (Greenmoney)
7. Mella Dee - Gourmet (Unreleased)
8. Mista Men - Forget U (Unknown To The Unknown)
9. Palace - Mandy (Mista Men Up Norf Mix) (Unknown To The Unknown)
10. Mista Men & Clientele - Juice (Unreleased)
11. Mella Dee & Squarehead - Untitled (Unreleased)
12. Mista Men - Lambrini (Unknown To The Unknown)
13. Mista Men Ft Detboi - I Move Closer (Deep Thrills)

http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/meet-mista-men.html

They flag up some sweet bumpy tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuGOiohEVcU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laRmYYuUZ5c

CRST where on this week

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01hjmkp#segments

Mz Bratt ft Donae'o - Rocket Launcher:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aD-5gd37As

No sleeping.

I love "Flow." I knew I'd find something I like on this thread. Still sifting through things.

mz bratt is kind of astounding "rocket launcher" huh

can't cosign the jungle-revival beat at all though

it sounds like it's actually literally from the 90s

and?

Mz Bratt over desi beats...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00tjpss

this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLG4lQVddN8

...and the remix pack is wonderful. The R1 Ryders remix, in particular, is amazing. Very rush-y.

Just how good can Disclosure get????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoQa6G8wyiQ&feature=share

They're getting better but I still think they have a way to go before they step out of just being another post-dubstep impersonator, this one sounds like an old fantastic mr fox remix of diffrent letrix which would have been alright in 09 or something but now sounds kinda dated to me. Its nice and slick, production is good, but the beats and ideas are so generic it just doesn't stick with me. Plus they're really bad at cut up vocals. Kinda suprised you dig it didn't think you where into that stright up post-dubstep vibe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1NpJFDrRq8

Fantastic Mr Fox is good at beats but never had any interest in making pop tunes. One of my annoyances about future garage and a lot of post-dubstep copping from 2-step was always how it wanted to suck the sonic ideas out of it while carefully extracting the pop quotient and leaving it on the side of the plate.

And more generally it's funny that you complain "this is so 2009" rather than "this is so 1999".

Fantastic Mr Fox is good at beats but never had any interest in making pop tunes.

don't think this is true at all!

I suppose it depends on whether and how you distinguish between "features vocals" and "pop".

right, i think some of his instrumentals are the most overtly pop (down to the chord changes & structure, some of them even have a bridge!).

I dunno I don't hear anything pop in Disclosure no more or less so than anyone like Fantastic Mr Fox, Joy Orbison, Bashmore, etc bar the fact they get play on more mainstream radio sometimes, but then its not something that crosses my mind much in general not much of a pop guy myself. Its defo more 09 post-dubstep influenced, sounds nothing like 99 garage to me.

Loving everything I've heard from Disclosure, was never a fan of Orbison or Bashmore bar Battle For Middle You (ergh but what a terrible title). Not sure why this is the case either.

I'm checking out Fantastic Mr Fox now and it sounds completely different to me, at least the Evelyn EP and Sketches remind me at times of Mount Kimbie, feels kind of busy and more informed by electronica in general. Which tracks should I be listening to here?

One of my annoyances about future garage and a lot of post-dubstep copping from 2-step was always how it wanted to suck the sonic ideas out of it while carefully extracting the pop quotient and leaving it on the side of the plate.

totally agree - "pop" is really a dirty word to a lot of these people, you feel

i think it's okay for music to not be pop music

sure but it's not okay for music to be completely dry and boring

To be clear, i'm not saying all 2-steppy post-dubstep other than Disclosure is dry and boring, more that it seems kinda self-evident to me why this particular stuff gets played by DJ Q and the like whereas Fantastic Mr Fox, Joy Orbison, Damu etc. (all of whom I think are excellent at times, esp. Damu - and a good example of how you can by hypercolourful and songful but not really pop in the same way) do not.

"Pop" isn't even quite the word for it - it's more a sort of bounciness and bubbliness that tunes either have or they don't.

It hardly surprises me that jimi doesn't hear the distinctions I'm hearing - we've had similar divisions before where I see a real faultline between juiciness and studiousness and he doesn't at all and seems to focus more on technical/arrangement similarities and distinctions (hope I'm not misrepresenting you jimi).

I mean, that distinction is one of the reasons I started this thread as distinct from just posting to rolling dance partisans.

Nah we defo hear things diffrently its why I like coming on here to see whats going down.

Theres a load of crossover in this and the partisans stuff anyway for me at least, I mean I've been repping for CRST, Mista Men etc for years. Just with Disclosure I don't feel like they really fit here and really do in the partisans thread. I find them a bit dry and boring. But then I lean toward more of the chunky swung bits and skipy grime/bassline with Q anyway. Just thought it was kind of interesting where the Disclosure love is coming from in this kinda scene. To me it seems like an odd fit.

Agreed with Damu he's ace. One of the only guys doing this hypercoloured sound I'm really feeling at the mo. But then he sounds pretty diffrent I get more of a house lean to Disclosure.

No Disclosure track has jumped out at me yet they don't feel like they've founds their feet at all yet. They sound to me like any old soundcloud producer playing at stright up post-dubstep tropes at the moment, which there are so many of. I mean why do I need to hear a track of theirs when bits like them where done well not so long ago and they're not adding to it yet. I dunno if they'd stand out at all a few years ago when this kinda stuff was at its peak. Maybe they'll grow into a vibe of their own a bit in the future mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKOPsnzcG9k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEPgQc1IQzw

I completely understand this connection, between post-dubstep and Disclosure, of course. I find them way more vibey, aimed right at the dancefloor, rather than continuously foregrounding production tricks that may or may not add something extra to a track as dance music. Plus Disclosure really have this nice influence from UKG that feels like a genuine influence, rather than nostalgia or something mashed together with all kinds of other UK dance genres.

I hear more of a house vibe than a UKG one. There is lots of very busy not very dance floory post-dubstep tho yeah Fantastic Mr Fox does verg on the busy, there is something more simple about Disclosure thats why I'd put them closer to older Joy Orbison or some Julio Bashmore for the most part, even Huxley or Dusky. Its that shiny tech house vibe with a bit more bass and a slight swing. But I wouldn't go as far as to say they're swung/skippy enough to be compared to garage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLQ4ywMeh2c

i mean that's basically what keeps me from posting on this thread about stuff i like like pattern and well rounded, it's basically just bouncy tech house w some skippy dan bell influence and some skippy uk influence but it's really a stretch to call it anything but house

There seems to be a lot of it about at the moment. The other weekend at Glade Festival I heard Appleblim, Mosca, Addison Groove all do pretty much stright up tech house sets with a little skip here and there. I can only take so much of it in a row tbh. However much I like some of the tracks, all at once it get tired fast.

i've mainly been a 4x4 techno / house listener for years now tbh so it's all good to me, kind of livens up the usual gear

Yeah it does sound nice mixed in with house/techno but on its own I just found it boring, there wasn't much variation going on. Sometimes DJs make tracks I like sound boring by the way they mix them, selection around them or whatever and this was the case here for the most part.

My experience of Disclosure is mixed in with grime and bassline and etc where it comes across as relatively straight (but still bouncy) - though of course there's full on house tunes that DJ Q plays that are straighter.

In this regard it's interesting listening to jackin' house (which DJ Q plays a bit of) which is trying to squeeze the bubbling vibe out of an even straighter post electro-house template.

But this whole vibe - what I mean when I say "UKG interzone bubbler" - is not really about strict stylistic demarcations so much as a kind of sonic-spiritual affiliation, an "if it's bumpin..." imperative which, again, seems intuitively obvious to me but I'd have difficulty articulating exactly what it is so I don't blame people for not seeing it.

I know it seems a bit doctrinaire, but the "would DJ Q play it" rule of thumb is a pretty good one.

Yeah its good rule of thumb, just like I said above some DJs can make tracks I like sound boring by the way they play them and other like DJ Q can play something I'm not that into sound damn good. I guess I'd rather hear Disclosure in a DJ Q mix than in one of their own or alongside some more tasteful house. It does make it sound more exciting or at least beefs it up a little when you mix it energeticly with harder stuff.

One another note this was on the last DJ Q show...

Mella Dee - Fazed

http://soundcloud.com/forefrontrecordings/sets/mella-dee-ruff-cuts-ep-fore005

Feeling this 12", its good to hear something with a bit of rudeness at such a low tempo.

Yeah those Mella Dee tunes are great, though they sit very oddly with this sound (by virtue of their dystopian lethargy) - it'll be interesting to see if that becomes a trend at all.

Incidentally this is the og 2-step that "Closer" makes me think of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-NLm9Awjq4

I was kind of suprised to hear the Mella Dee tracks on there, I've had them for a while and it never crossed my mind that they'd appear on a Q show. Its prob the Mista Men connection. Fits with quite a lot you hear on Hessle and Night Slugs shows at times.

I can hear that connection between closer and that yeah. Bar the drums not being as garage and them addign a little Orbison synth its damn close.

What a fabulous run of tracks this is at the beginning of the current Q show:

Disclosure — Control 

Nastee Boi — Baby

DJ Antoine — Welcome To St. Tropez (Feat. Lethal Bizzle) (TS7 Remix) 

Lenny Fontana — Spirit Of The Sun (Mike Delinquent Project Remix) 

Rack N Ruin — Slow Down

Classified — Call Me Maybe 

Wookie — 2 Us (Exeman Steppers Mix)
Burgaboy — Brian Storm (Remix) 

SBTRKT — Living Like I Do (Feat. Sampha) (Lil Silva Remix)
Dismantle — More Funk
Todd Edwards — Love Inside
Rudimental — Deep In The Valley (Feat. Shanti) (Woz Remix)
Cleo Sol — Never The Right Time (DEVolution Remix)
Billy Kenny & Chris G — Diamond Rings
TS7 — This (Feat. Russo) (DJ Q Special)
Duncan Powell — Brake 2012
Delinquent — Step In The Dance (Feat. Lady Leshurr)

listening to q knowing so many of these tunes wouldnt have and will not rub shoulders elsewhere ever again is too bloodclaat melancholy tbh :(

like even that there is a selection that while it would only scan as general ukg to most outside observers is still an interzone within the interzone really (ie let alone outliers-but-not like maya jane coles or w/e), particularly the last half

how would you divvy up those trracks in the last half?

good show anyway, i love m.i.k (even though the video for 'mor3' genuinely makes embarrassed to say so) and fabian tremorefire is great and seriously deserves a mike delinquenty breakthrough sooner or later

http://soundcloud.com/djfabion/fabian-ride-1

tim did you ever hear this? one of my absolute 10/10 favourite, totally freaky manifestations of the sparrowlike urges of nu-ukg

even down to his "lowkey on the pwofile" speech impediment it's brilliant

SBTRKT — Living Like I Do (Lil Silva Remix) = nu lil silva harsh gloomcore
Dismantle — More Funk = idk this guy but this is fluoro clubby bosh
Todd Edwards — Love Inside = todd is todd, classicist
Rudimental — Deep In The Valley (Feat. Shanti) (Woz Remix) - similar to dismantle bleepy clubby herve / dubble dutch eurowonky
Cleo Sol — Never The Right Time (DEVolution Remix) - protean remixers do a garagey thing
Billy Kenny & Chris G — Diamond Rings - jackin
TS7 — This (Feat. Russo) (DJ Q Special) - 2step revival via bassline/jackin
Duncan Powell — Brake 2012 - plinky mnml weirdness from otherwise ukg classicist
Delinquent — Step In The Dance (Feat. Lady Leshurr) - pop bosh

like haha i do realise none of that means nothing to anyone but just understand that simply no one else draws from these notionally similar micro-ecologies to create a living breathing sociable whole under a garage banner

you could associate 9 different djs to each of those tracks who would then play similar sonically complimentary stuff and never touch the other

took me a while to realise it btw but that 'diamond rings' is the absolute lick

listen to way it only implies the rest of the original sample ("i gave her di-di-diamond rings / i gave her everything") and plays on its past tense by introducing a portentous "I CAN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND" to make it seem like a wronged, vengeful sequel. the definition of ardkore

http://soundcloud.com/dj-chrisg/chris-gresswell-billy-kenny

thanks rob! i am trying to navigate my way through funky w/o stepping in pop

or should i say twostepping in pop

i actually got dismantle all excited based on hardwax reviews but i thought it was moombahton-grade crap

not quite up to timo mass "dooms night" snuff

fellow old men of ilm, nothing is up to the standards set by your youth

that's why being young is what it is

make the realisation and then sink or swim

i am more of a double 99, smokin beats, dem 2, b15 project kind of listener as opposed to, say, sunship, wideboys, monsta boy, artful dodger fan

there must be some stuff on that end of the spectrum out there, right?

that isn't "FACT music"

gloomcore? are elijah & skilliam gloomcore or do you mean more like james blake?

What's the distinction b/w b15 and wideboys/Sunship etc above, v?

Cosign all rtc's comments re the Q show obv.

praise jesus for finners arriving to take over just before my patience was abt to snap

i guess the difference comes down to "girls like us" original mix

i actually like quite a bit of wideboys and sunship but i have a strong preference for the left of these continua

abstract <-> songful

samples, basslines, effects <-> performance, sociology

armand van helden, 187 lockdown <-> todd edwards, timbaland

"girls like us" i realize is rather right wing

but i guess it is so masterful in the effects / samples department that i love it. i'd say the same about dem 2 i guess and probably a fair number of wideboys and sunship, pre-2002 i guess

Yeah I was gonna say, something like the wideboys' "west side (2 da floor mix)" is left wing par excellence.

I don't think what you're looking for exists right now as a sound per se, except (appropriately enough) as implied by the center of the venn diagrams Q likes to draw. It's that gold thread of bubbliness rather than pop per se, a bubbliness that runs through pop and darkness/heaviness both.

honestly i just dug up this frankie foncett cd on pure silk and also dj ez mix on warner strategic marketing and this mikee b / dj target / maxwell d ayia napa thing from 2001 and artful dodger and dj luck and mc neat (both volumes of both!) etc etc last night

it's a lot to take in and rough going, i'm just throwing names out based on some things i remembered and trying to remember the rest

Am I reading you right to the effect that you're just taking that era in now??

http://soundcloud.com/djfabion/fabian-ride-1

tim did you ever hear this? one of my absolute 10/10 favourite, totally freaky manifestations of the sparrowlike urges of nu-ukg

I mostly adore Fabion/Tremorefire (his "Boom Selection" remix is A+) and did rifle through his soundclouds a while back, will have to wait till I get home to check this though.

I think the real demarcation these days is less between abstract vs songful and more along production values lines.

This is where a distinction between say 1999 garage and 2001 garage really makes sense, the earlier stuff still retaining a kind of vinyl warmth and almost-"deepness" and the later stuff sounding like the contrast has been turned up - heavier but more plasticky beats, exaggerated bass but also exaggerated treble... a generalised air of hyperreality.

This (rather than pop vs abstraction or lightness vs heaviness) is probably the key point of distinction between "future garage" and the stuff that Q plays, only it's even more extreme now, future garage being "deep" to the point where it has to shun anything that might interfere with that, and the Q interzone retaining (albeit as a kind of reigning principle rather than a clearly defined sonic property) the sickly harshness of bassline.

hmmm good analysis

no no this is all stuff that i was buying as it came in (new imports, usually 20-30 bucks)

(as a result i emailed b1!$$b10g to thank him for recs and he kindly pointed me to this forum)

i was so excited

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Shake-It-Up-Garage-Sessions/release/132673

and then oh my god it all turned to shite

http://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Artful-Dodger-Presents-Rewind-2001-Lessons-From-The-Underground/release/322730

iirc there was a concomitant rise in # of threads about r&b and microhouse

That Shake It Up comp looks incredibly forward-thinking for 2001! I didn't even know "Oi!" existed that early.

Like, chronologically I would think that the Artful Dodger comp you link precedes it.

Anyways everyone knows that the best 2-step comp in 2001 was the Masterstepz 'Ayia Napa 2001' double-cd on MOS.

well, it did

shake it up was october 5 and artful dodger was jun 21

which means i bought the former full-price in november (iirc my brain went DARQWAAAAAAN) and the latter off the clearance rack probably in early march 02, i clearly remember the artful dodger being the "sunroof open" disc

oh man tim, you always bring the lulz

i was scanning that ayia napa 2001 disc and i was suddenly reminded that these did not discs did not make it out of deep offsite storage last night

http://www.discogs.com/CK-Flash-Presents-Garage-Rap-Volume-1/release/1689521

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Crews-Control-MCs-Inside-The-Ride/release/631600

oh man tim, you always bring the lulz

seriously any mix that includes "Down Down Bizniz" AND "One By One" AND "All I Do (Bump & Flex Dancehall Dub)" AND "Booo!" AND "Bouncing Flow" AND "Do You Really Like It? (Full Length Sovereign Mix Vocal)" AND "Summer Jam" AND "Mic Tribute (United Grooves Collective Remix)" AND "What's This" has to be all time for real.

i remember really liking sticky, genius cru, k2, united grooves, wookie doing his exemen thing, and ... remarc?

most of that set is unknown to me though, thanks for the recommendation

so what would be a set of properly "bubblin" ukg?

i hope not the artful dodger "lessons" from the underground

If I had to select a single comp that I felt summed up ukg in this regard it would be this one:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Pure-Silk-The-Third-Dimension/release/463634

Really captures the moment of 2-step's transition from underground into overground (but not having quite made it over the border yet - which is how I'd distinguish it from subsequent comps that I like just as much).

With the Dionne Rakeem remix that opens disc 2 being microcosmically indicative.

I really enjoy the MCing on the third disc of that, Tim.
Listening to it now, oddly.

Yoo!! Just to let you guys know, I will be on 1Xtra at the earlier time of 10pm until 1am this week covering for DJ Cameo while he's away.

I hope you can all lock in!

gloomcore? are elijah & skilliam gloomcore or do you mean more like james blake?

― the late great, Thursday, July 5, 2012 10:23 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was gonna say the other day, the arrangement on the "Living Like I Do" remix has a real doomy but pop 1990 vibe for me - "Killer" / Warp / Bassic.

defo

e&s can be harsh but very rarely austere like silva

viz the way they leaven grime grr with swindle-y video game jazz noodle (often back to back immediately) to create the cartoonish looney tunes vibe

(which i hasten to add is a perhaps underappreciated quality they articulate from grime itself rather than strictly being something of their own invention)

(which i hasten to add is a perhaps underappreciated quality they articulate from grime itself rather than strictly being something of their own invention)

this nascent quality in grime always strikes me as a persistently recurring 4 Hero recessive gene...

E1D - It's A Lot! The UKG Sessions, Vol 5

01. Lenny Fontana Ft. Beverly T - Spirit Of The Sun (Mike Delinquent Project Remix) (E1D Special)
02. SKT Ft. Shanay Holmes - Sky High (Bee Q & Unique Remix)
03. Keith & Supabeatz Ft. An-Na - The Most Beautiful (Todd Edwards Remix)
04. Meleka - Love You Baby (TS7 Remix)
05. Genius Cru - Boom Selection (DJ Fabian Remix)
06. Jammer Ft. Viper, JME, B-Live, Scratchy, Layz, Sox & Flowdan - Big Man (DJ Q 'Tropical' Mix)
07. Lisa Maffia Ft. Tyler Daley & Romeo - Don't Stop The Music (Oxide Dark House Mix)
08. Scott Garcia Ft. MC DT - It's A London Thing 2012 (Scott Garcia's 20:20 Mix)
09. Stooshe - Black Heart (DEVolution Club Mix)
10. Kcat - Broken (Mike Delinquent 'Colosseum' Mix)
11. Todd Edwards - Love Inside (Sunshine Mix)
12. Wideboys - Addicted To The Bass (DJ Q Remix)
13. Rihanna - Where Have You Been (Bee Q & Unique Remix)
14. Afrojack & Shermanology - Can't Stop Me (TS7 Remix)
15. Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe (Classified Dub Mix)
16. Little Mix - Wings (Sunship Extended Mix)
17. Usher - Scream (Exemen Remix)
18. Mike Delinquent Project Ft. Lady Leshurr - Step In The Dance
19. Cleo Sol - Never The Right Time (Who Do You Love) (DEVolution Remix)
20. DJ Antoine vs Timaati Ft. Kalenna & Lethal Bizzle - Welcome To St. Tropez (TS7 Remix)
21. Enigma Dubz Ft. Katie McLeod - Dancefloor (Garage Instrumental Mix)
22. Orange Hill Productions Ft. Vybz Kartel & Sneakbo - Pon Time (DJ Q Remix)
23. Tanya Lacey - Greatness (Exemen Remix)
24. Infinity Ink - Infinity (Todd Edwards Remix)
25. Alyssa Reid Ft. Snoop Dogg - The Game (Sunship Remix)
26. Whojax - London City (Mike Delinquent Project Remix)

Split-track version is available here - https://www.yousendit.com/download/QlVoanZnQ3RPSHgzZU1UQw

This looks like all my favourite tunes in one convenient package.

i know right?

you ever get round that fabian 'ride' btw

Yes! It's excellent. The decision to redo the "No Diggity" vocals seems wrongheaded right up to the amazing overlapping-vocoders-of-ecstasy chorus.

I haven't really been following this thread at all but that mix is fantastic.

if we're going to reminisce on ca-2000 2-step comps, this is the one the i basically wore the grooves out of:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Matt-Jam-Lamont-Presents-The-Jam-Experience/release/173880

E1D - It's A Lot! The UKG Sessions, Vol 5

and what do you know, it's great

New one from Royal T & Roska

http://soundcloud.com/roskaroskaroska/royal-t-ft-roska-work-your

Sounds pretty wicked. Tough garage vibes with added hoovers.

Oh that's amazing.

Indeed!

wow

who is mike delinquent? does ukg recycle more tunes than chicago or fewer?

also i thought roska's tag line was "roska roska roska roska" not "roska roska roska" as in his soundcloud link?

so, gott ist tot. what to do. one one hand, while away the evenings arguing about orbital with southall, on the other...

on the assumption that my subsconscious whims are and always have been an underground river of otm:

let's lay all the notes out. where was q going before his untimely death? the house in house & garage, full circle ouroboros. maturation of bass? the medlar remix of disclosure. disclosure themselves. mk mix of storm queen. jamie jones vs azari big at the tail end of funky. bashmore topping the urban and scene charts with 'au seve'. garage scene raving to annie mac. something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlvRKqbET2o

something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmQSCpJSIaY

DEFINITELY something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRXg6F4V7z0

huxley. hot creations. nick hannam. hot creations and nick hannam. the jackin lot - cheap n cheerful boshers AND proper house-trained operators fluent in todays clubbing, not the late, crippled baby steps house deejaying that permeated and set off london funky. hannah wants, maya jane coles , what the diff? the garage scene has never been closer to house than it has been now. is it one sided? is it mutual? if they didnt meet halfway where did they meet? murky, got a bass to it. real actual bass. 'hialeah house party' is grimy as hell. vox samples - wiseguys or brandy or fonda rae or gotye or allure it doesnt matter don't you see

never been closer *since inception, obv

Waiting until I go to bed and dream tonight in order properly to decode the above but in the meantime I can say with certainty that "Jagged Edge", "Must Be You" and "Bassline Soldiers" are all straight fire beautiful tunes. PROPER BUBBLERS.

And get at stuff I was talking about above, the idea of bubbliness as something that can't be reduced to an objective sub-style - i mean these are all "just" house tunes yet still so fidgety and effervescent (and yet ominous). Really difficult to pin down exactly how that tightrope is trod, and what are the poles it's stretched between.

Though here's something: all this stuff can sound, if you squint, a bit like... Nu Groove?

no doubt. konders, joey negro, and in partic kenny dope was another plate i had spinning at the back of my mind, the hip hop house but not hiphouse approach behind hot creations et al. made this little pile of sampley ones but then you can stretch it out into the classic breaks and boogie samples

Wildkats - Perpetrating (Original Mix)
Adam Port - Someone To Love (Original Mix)
Bubba - Dance With Me (Original Mix)
Claptone - Cream (Original Mix)
NTFO & Rhadow - Don't Stop (Original Mix)
Robosonic - Worst Love
Jay Lumen - As One (Original Mix)

Yeah I was listening to Konders tonight which is what made me think it.

and like, plug those into the jackin refixes of 'cream', busta, wiseguys, fatboy slim, missy...

vox samples - wiseguys or brandy or fonda rae or gotye or allure it doesnt matter don't you see (emphasis mine)

I think this is a really important point.

Like in the jackin' house thread Lex was complaining about "You Want Me" using a Shola Ama tune as if it was part of the same modish R&B vocal sample trend as Blawan or whatevs, and it's like, no, they really don't care where it comes from, that's the difference.

how about further. bashmore into jessie ware. the way ware never convinces but is affecting on the basis of not convincing. is she a replicant? 88-96 simulation. boogie nu-groove neo-noir repertory music for offworld colonies

i.

yeah i was thinking about that with ware

90s teen tastemakers but also but 90s proto-thirtysomethings recognising a familiar port in a baffling storm (ware big on 6music), plus pious mirage of integrity for the adele crowd, plus the endless pointless gleaming simulacra of uk bass music's koolhaasian junkspace

sorted guvnor

- r|t|c, Saturday, 9 June 2012 14:33 (2 months ago) Bookmark

ii.

Tyrell: If we gift them the past we create a cushion or pillow for their emotions and consequently we can control them better.

Deckard: Memories. You're talking about memories.

LOL

Keep going

90s crit for 90s retro!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9eWTi_kVxo

anthem?

allow me to be the first to notice how mutabaruka (on konders 'the poem') sounds exactly like wiley pretending to be his mum

and subsequently to extract great cosmic meaning from that obv

idgi

this stuff sounds more like sydenham / ferrer than any of the stuff you guys are mentioning

we went through this shit a couple years ago, no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lfa2yAgtXY

if there's ever a dance meme that makes me want to vomit its BACK TO BASICS

we gonna have another 50 posts of you not knowing what planet you're on doggie?

stfu and actually listen to whats being discussed for a change

i listened to monty luke but i really have better things to be doing than being LOCKED ON to BBC1

also stuf and actually discuss what's being discussed

like you're never going to be mark s jr dance edition if you don't have the patience for anything other than cryptic references for "the bubbling crew"

but hey if this is NO GURLS ALLOWED DANCE THREAD i'll just *flounce off*

i'm sorry if i'm being rude but if there's a worse look than my "idgi" it's your "fuck off then if you don't get it"

you are talking. about music. you havent. listened to. it is literally as simple as that. what the fuck attention do you think you're owed exactly?

an explanation?

anyway i'm talking about monty luke, how about that?

like i listened to the youtube you posted and it sounded more like orbitalife than bobby konders. so you owe me nothing but you're "music you haven't listened to" line is NOT as literally simple as that.

anyway what the fuck do you think i owe you? there's a suggest ban button you can use OH NO THERE AIN'T!

try a killfile maybe?

like congrats rob, you're the realest ukg dude alive, we should start calling you BRITCOCK

to bring things back to civility though, what exactly IS the difference between monty luke and orbitalife i'm not getting, or is monty luke illustrating a side point that's not really your point?

The Monty Luke tune is probably the one that sounds least like Nu Groove, though I was really thinking more of the Burrells than Konders when I made that comment, it was just listening to Konders that sparked the connection.

Though really I'm not sure how much turns on this dispute given 2007 post-minimal deepness was basically a Konders jack off sesh in any event.

The basic difference between 2007/2008 Euro and 2012 UKG in their reappropriations of house is precisely the deepness vs bubbliness divide I was discussing upthread. You've already said you're on the deepness side of that divide so it's hardly surprising you'd be underwhelmed.

Like "Orbitalife" would never get play by DJ Q and while I don't blame people for not getting that I think if you don't get it then you don't get it, i.e. the logic behind the music he plays. It's a distinction that is both subtle* and important.

* not in the sense of being minor or pedantic, but in terms of operating along an axis or line of division that doesn't accord with how most dance stans conceive of such things.

See also jimi on Disclosure.

eh

i guess i'm not tall enough for this fairground ride

no it's more like you're going up to the fairground ride getting butthurt it won't sell you a leg of lamb

i mentioned like twenty tunes before that monty luke (tangentially remarked on in context and really only jokily cos of the subject) that "you had better things to do than listen to" before turning up to demand some attention - you can't have been any more disrespectful here so don't make me laugh bleating about civility

vahid TBC i'm not having a go at you, more saying that possibly there are legitimate differences in aesthetic approach at work.

Anyone approaching this stuff from a pro-deepness angle is going to be disappointed.

no i know, this is issue is clearly more subtle than what you could figure out from a Monty Luke YouTube

rtc's most recent youtubes even considered all together probably overstate the role of bouncy house in this interzone I think (I assume for the purpose of teasing out that strand)?

I mean Q is typically housier than you'd expect from (say) his FACT mix, but this stuff is all intermingled with 2-step and grime and etc.

And the housey tunes sound different in that context than they do in another context - say, a Hot Creations DJ mix.

This goes back as well to what I was saying about the difference between normal eclecticism and the very specific kind of "golden thread" eclecticism which Q has (he's not unique in this regard - perhaps more the inverse of say a Moodymann).

You know what's really good? The Moda Black comp that features Celsius' "Must Be You" - more on a straight Hot Creations tip by and large but OMG at Hot SInce 82's "Knee Deep In Louise" and Lukas' "Best in Show".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM4-X7apPus

Oooh, "Jagged Edge" is pretty good. Vocal thing like on Tropical 2. I wish I could eat pizza though. I don't understand all the sub-classifications, but this thread usually has some stuff I like. (Meanwhile, the overwhelming bulk of electronic dance music does nothing for me. Started going through the 00s poll winners, the Spotify-available ones anyway, and as usual I find myself skipping a lot.)

all these ukg-friendly house tunes are fab! few more i'd like to add while we're at it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXh2g96QR-U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPj0ulwJJqA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGnt69GtSE

love the monty luke and eats everything tracks! can't really hear a deepness/bubbliness divide per se though.

the "bassline soldiers" track is amazing but i'm not sure about the vox at all, they seem...at odds

There's not necessarily a divide in the music. It's more the way different tunes take on different qualities in different contexts. If you're looking for deepness the the above house tunes sound underwhelming, adequate to the task rather than particularly well executed.

no it's more that i don't really know what you mean by "deepness" and "bubbliness" in this context

I think the real demarcation these days is less between abstract vs songful and more along production values lines.

This is where a distinction between say 1999 garage and 2001 garage really makes sense, the earlier stuff still retaining a kind of vinyl warmth and almost-"deepness" and the later stuff sounding like the contrast has been turned up - heavier but more plasticky beats, exaggerated bass but also exaggerated treble... a generalised air of hyperreality.

This (rather than pop vs abstraction or lightness vs heaviness) is probably the key point of distinction between "future garage" and the stuff that Q plays, only it's even more extreme now, future garage being "deep" to the point where it has to shun anything that might interfere with that, and the Q interzone retaining (albeit as a kind of reigning principle rather than a clearly defined sonic property) the sickly harshness of bassline.

― Tim F, Thursday, July 5, 2012 11:18 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In this case sub in Vahid saying the house tunes rtc posted were also-ran copies of "Orbitalife" for jim saying Disclosure are also-ran copies of post-dubstep/future garage.

i didn't even know there was supposed to be a demarcation between '99 and '01 garage and i don't really understand that paragraph. this is why i don't write about instrumental dance music any more. (or read about it much either.) it just seems like splitting hairs ever finer.

Lex I had every faith and confidence that you would rise above the debate.

i consider it personal growth tbh

Bubbles.

SR Mix #144: Hot City [Moshi Moshi]

1. Unknown – Unknown
2. Walter Ego – Fruit Punch
3. DJ Shadow – I’m Excited Addison Groove Vegas Remix
4. Elmo – Extasey, LSD, Marijuana
5. Paul Sirrell – Overground
6. Joe Goddard: Gabriel Feat Valentina – Compound One Remix
7. Benz & Raukus Noise – Cut N Shut
8. Detriot B2B DJ Haus – Slip N Slide
9. Benz – Feel Dis Ting
10. Wafa – Booty
11. Hot City – 4 U
12. Hot City – Another Girl
13. Hot City – Sound Of The Club
14. DJ Q – Woo Riddim
15. Burga Boy – Rude Boy Booty

http://www.sonicrouter.com/2012/08/sr-mix-144-hot-city-moshi-moshi/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueX-_az4kBw

In which Disclosure, in a pincer move, annex both Schaffel and the territory previously occupied by Jamie Woon:

http://soundcloud.com/disclosuremusic/latch-ft-sam-smith

Sweet, love this.

Heads up: the Royal-T album is excellent.

I downloaded that this morning and am expecting a reliably bubbly commute home as a result.

very tempted to ask what your commute is so i can come watch your bubbly-anticipating face in person

It's basically like, say, his FACT mix from last year, only in album form.

i would have said it's much more of a serious piece than that mix was

calling it the music for the jilted generation to the mix's experience might be overstating it a touch but either way i havent been able to stop think of royal-t in terms of liam howlett this week

http://www.elasticartists.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/royalt_fingers-345x326.jpg

Hmmm yes okay - TBH I'd have to listen to the FACT mix to compare - I basically meant that, pleasingly, it's wall to wall straight bangers.

Music For The Jilted Generation is a nice point of comparison definitely! Though it makes me wish Royal-T had done a "suite" at the end.

ah right ok

is it not taken as given by now though that r-t only trades in bangers as such? within that however you can differentiate between the factmix's grime/butterz cheeky delinquency, the adult dance melangey/rinse of the album, maybe in addition even the crowdpleasing hardcore finesse-less punishing bosh of the newer mixes and radio shows (fat of the land?)

even still, 'music box', 'missing aurora'... probably his tenderest work

Yes but the history of dance music is littered with the bones of producers who only trade in bangers until their debut album.

Although that hasn't been the case for the album releases on Rinse (which deviation from the norm seems actually to have hurt the artists critically/commercially? Roska at least).

maybe in addition even the crowdpleasing hardcore finesse-less punishing bosh of the newer mixes and radio shows (fat of the land?)

haha, I think at this point the analogy gets a bit strained.

Yes but the history of dance music is littered with the bones of producers who only trade in bangers until their debut album.

Even if you could afford to I suspect that making a Rinse-branded album full of orchestras, whale noises and Hope Sandoval would be somewhat frowned upon by the people actually releasing yr record.

very tempted to ask what your commute is so i can come watch your bubbly-anticipating face in person

Had to push in front of a pregnant woman at one point because I really needed a sit down after the first three tracks. It can't quite keep that level up throughout, although the Ruby Lee Ryder track is excellent. Certainly darker than I'd expected although there's still a certain beat-em-up glee to the middle section that makes 'austere' not really the right word.

haha you honour this album with your none-more-grime actions

Actually, I was already sitting down at the start.

Back of the bus though.

no sodcast, no credibility

im totally devoted to sunship remixes the last couple of days

oh my god this royal-t and ruby lee ryder track >>>>>>>>>>>>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02nuD4qRKUk

SO MUCH FUN

i always feel like i'm missing a zillion football references when it comes to uk rappers though

Eww: It's the Ill Blu Hype Thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmeIZF8Eczo

this is imo, the hottest ruffest now-est record i can think of right now

the renascent mk is probably at the very centre of my nu-nu-interzone moodboard tbh

I am 100% down with the notion of UKG interzone bubbler remixes of Hot Creations etc but in this case that's only true if they remix out Ali Love.

xp like i hear that and think of the gabryelle refix

now i just need reality to back me up

yeah matt you say that but for instance how diff is ali love to say sampha on the 'living like i do' lil silva remix

these things are accepted now

haha yeah bad taste tuneless vocals only make it more real. And this is very awesome, gabrelle refix is a good ref pt.

Was startled to hear a jackin' remix of Tina Arena's "Chains" on that Nick Hannam dj mix Miko Mcha posted.

sampha's vocals have never been acceptable either

i <3 hot creations though, they're the only people permitted to use r&b samples now (it ensures ali love's absence at least)

http://www.1001tracklists.com/tracklist/17052_mk-mark-kinchen-mixmag-dj-lab-2012-08-03.html

forget what thread i should be on now but this set did it for me fwiw

also someone should send that 'cold as ice' thing to dj naughty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E9SlPOUsKA

this is a funny record (which dj q has played iirc?) all told, like why does it make sense to suddenly go from that to a skippy agent x riddim and back? yet, it does

shadow child is on that moda black comp, this is cool too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5wErTTo7UU

http://soundcloud.com/hot-creations/hotc026-a2-rockin-beats-shadow

oh and look he's remixed that mig campbell i just posted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmUj2KY9esM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_O9isiy2LU

OMG that "Circles" rework.

In a long tradition of "Circles" based tunes all of which I love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XW1eHRZ--U

just ftr this is the other hottest ruffest etc i can think of rn

(turn your bass the fuck up if understanding eludes you)

^ oh my days thats good.

Must admit I was hating on Lil Silva Living like i do rmx til I heard it on Qs shows, now its one of my faves of the year. I dare not listen to the original though.

Wooooooowwwwwwww.

Love how it kinda casually renders irrelevant all the "trap" post-dubstep for a brief stretch in the second half.

haha ok r|t|c can you email me again and this time include your EMAIL address so that i can write you back please?

http://soundcloud.com/weoffend/weekend-offenders-sanctuary

never mind listening to the mix, just look at the tracklist and know the game's afoot

http://soundcloud.com/100percentpurerecords/jay-lumen-get-ready-pure085

not an interzone bubbler - or any good at all really - but it does seem like a sign of the times that a no-nonsense tech-house label like 100% Pure is releasing a speed garage throwback like this

otoh this i very much like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxECEpf2GjU

Mike Delinquent guest mix for Annie Nightingale -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00z6yb1

best preditah yet? I think so...
http://soundcloud.com/preditah/garage-dub

yeah love and adore that

http://soundcloud.com/shanayholmes/preditah-worth-the-wait-remix

^ full version (and the funkystepz mix on there isnt too shabby either)

http://soundcloud.com/2tone_entertainment/get-outta-that-corner-ft

this was another (more predictable but still) really great preditah remix you mightve missed if not nerding out to q

think it either never came out or it did but without versatile on it or something, i forget now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyYciLfnOiE

also just on the subject of mike delinquent this is AMAZING

xp yeah that one too. nerding out to q has been one of my main pass-times in 2012, thanks to this thread tbh.

this new Out of the box mix is sounding good. Lil Silva has really confounded me with his stuff over the last year or so, starting around Cheese n Bun thru to this new one and Living like I do, its like they only really make sense to me when DJ Q plays them.

* pastimes pastimes

haha yeah at first i was more drawn to the duke dumont mix of that alunageorge and wasnt taken by the silva but then i went back and made a very deliberate effort to squint my ears and imagine it thru a q prism. does sound like brainwashing but er, i thought it kinda helped...

of course what doesnt help from the other side is knowing fact et al will automatically make meal of any old shit if it's got lil silva's name on

http://www.youtube.com/v/uyYciLfnOiE&fs=1&hl=en

also just on the subject of mike delinquent this is AMAZING

!!

killer mix alert!

http://soundcloud.com/causenaffect/cause-affect-october

Natty - Bedroom Eyes (Lorenzo, Ko Kane & Zanetti Remix)
Scotty Boy & Lorenzo - No Diggity (Let Loose On The Goose Remix)
Jesse Rose - Fatman
Pete Graham & Lorenzo - Man Cub
NTFO - Adjective (Barou Remix)
??? i just wanna drink
Donkie Punch - Snapbacks n Tattoos
Scotty Boy & Lorenzo - Coke Diet
BDot & Lorenzo - Im in Chains
Anhanguera feat. J-Dub - Beats Are So legit (Cause & Affect Remix)
Tom Shorterz - BenZallin (Two Thirty One Fix)
Daft Jack & Lorenzo - Come On (Bass Bin Fix)
Lorenzo, Ko Kane & Zanetti feat. Tom Garrett - Sleepin' is Cheatin'
??? gossip folks
??? spank rock - bump
???
I Killed Kenny feat. Jamie George - Let's Go (Cause & Affect Hazey Mix)
??? naughty naughty good girl
Hannah Wants - Teardrop on the Fire
Lorenzo - Primevil
Azealia Banks - 1991
??? what you do for me
Hannah Wants & Lorenzo - None a Them
Linkoban - Like This (Tom Shorterz Remix)
??? breathe & stop
Double Trouble & Lorenzo - Drugs
Hannah Wants & Lorenzo - Sick Sunshine
Kevin Kind - Keep on Loving (Cause & Affect Remix)

at this rate soon i won't care about any new music if "& Lorenzo" isn't somewhere in the title

Yeesss.

i'll listen to this as soon as i am able to take "snapbacks and tattoos" off repeat

This mix is really, ahem, shameless. Did we really just transition from a No Diddity edit into a Mos Eilsey cantina theme jacking house remix?

damn, Snapbacks n Tattoos is such a sweet track though.

the mos eisley cantina track is C&A (or Lorenzo alone, probably?) just showing their roots in 'proper' jackin house, where vintage dancefloor jazz samples are dime-a-dozen... as for shamelesness, it's all super-classy compared to some cash-in booties that crop up on the bigtunesmp3 main chart, ie stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46gizQsl3FQ

BUT on that note i gotta rep for this, proper skanker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulyT4qmJdcQ

mt you have delighted me, and i will duly step my jackin game back up

in the meantime though this made me laugh, and then made me love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkEpCoWVUqg

http://soundcloud.com/michaelwoods/sunship-remix

sickest sunship mix in a minute btw

as featured on the new e1d mix i might add:

http://soundcloud.com/dje1d/e1d-its-a-lot-the-ukg-sessions-vol-6
https://www.yousendit.com/download/TEhVYUozTmFCSWRFQmNUQw

01.DJ Fabian – Booti Dance (E1D Special)
02.Supafly Ft. Shahin Badar – Happiness (Mike Delinquent Project Remix)
03.LeeLee – Ugly (Matt ‘Jam’ Lamont Classic Vocal Mix)
04.Danny Phillips – Feel The Spirit (Original Mix)
05.Andy Jay & S-Tee Ft. Rubi Dan – Funky Dip (DJ Q ‘Back To ’99′ Mix)
06.Kids Of ’91 – Head Bangin’ (Agent X UKG Mix)
07.NY – Trophy Boy (Todd Edwards Remix)
08.Sam And The Womp – Bom Bom (Wookie Remix)
09.Usher – Numb (Mike Delinquent Project Remix)
10.Duncan Powell – I Love Her
11.Brown & Cole Ft. Jay-L – All For You (DJ Q 2012 Vocal Mix)
12.Kcat – Broken (Classified Remix)
13.Michael Woods Ft. Ester Dean – We’ve Only Just Begun (Sunship Remix)
14.GE – Get Up And Dance
15.Delilah – Shades Of Grey (MJ Cole Remix)
16.Baby Blue – Target (TS7 Mix)
17.Cover Drive Ft. Dappy – Explode (Mike Delinquent Project Remix)
18.Fully Loaded Project Ft. Vincent J Alvis – Y.O.U (Duncan Powell Edit Dub)
19.Luke Bingham Ft. Sway – Gemini (Todd Edwards Vocal Mix)
20.Vida – Boombox (Sunship Dub)
21.RIP Productions – Pick Me Up (Karl ‘Tuff Enuff’ Brown Dub Mix)
22.Ultra Ft. Glamma Kid & Khalia – Have You Ever (Bee Q & Unique UKG Mix)
23.GE – Hold On To My Luv
24.DJ Q Ft. MC Bonez – All I Really Want
25.Bobby Womack – Love Is Gonna Lift You Up (Exemen Remix)
26.Todd Edwards – No Place Like London (Edit)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcJghCYlzpo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORNs0HiAU78

might be a little classic, that

Disclosure - Latch feat. Sam Smith (Official Video)
http://youtu.be/93ASUImTedo

We are the future garage love generation
lemonskunksniffah 36 minutes ago

Really liking everything those guys are doing right now. Cool track.

love the first blushes of hearing a new todd track where you've got it on repeat over and over and over til you get sick of it, feels very specific to his stuff somehow

this one's really making me wanna go on a broken beat retro rampage, it's got real bump, flex and shimmy legs he hasnt shown off a good while

oh btw since we're on the interzone thread with nothing better to do was anyone else aware that old grime standard 'are you really from the ends?' was supposedly produced by daz-i-kue from bugz in the attic?!?!?!? cos i most certainly was not

Totally late to the party but that Moda Black compilation is brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_oujgYq_Xc

new of theirs which i like a lot

can i just say that cause n effect mix is the kind of loose and filthy party music that was basically engineered by robots for me to like it

http://soundcloud.com/hannah_wants/hannah-wants-mixtape-1012
http://soundcloud.com/ill-phil/ill-phil-presents-the-winter
http://soundcloud.com/screw-face-officail/the-hangover-promo-mixed-by
http://soundcloud.com/kokane/nocturnal-volume-1-03-30am-09
http://soundcloud.com/ryanjamesmusic/ryan-james-vs-lorenzo-insomni
http://soundcloud.com/tomgarnett11/scare-f3st-2012-mix-27th-28th
http://soundcloud.com/trak2/jackin-house-vol-8-mixed-by
http://soundcloud.com/tombulldj/tom-bull-september-2012-mix
http://soundcloud.com/donkiepunch/donkie-punch-ever-heard-of-a-1
http://soundcloud.com/calumjohnmusic/calum-john-september-mix-12
http://soundcloud.com/d-jay-mt/d-jay-mt-august-2012

further listening

ha, i've already downloaded a few of those - haven't listened to any properly tho, we should exchange notes in a week's time or so

that Todd a few posts back is wonderful! loving the weirdo electro-hippie hoedown vibes on his LOL Boys rmx too

heh i did most of them as part of a big jackin binge this weekend and they have (or more likely my mind has) all kinda melted into one thing

instincts say the cause n affect might still be the best, or at least neatest, of the bunch but nothing's useless (trak2 are reliably good iirc)

still pine somewhat for hearing more of marcus nasty mixes of this stuff, he seems to london it up a little somehow and no one else is better at the light n sweet / dark n moody internal monologue that this music at its best demands

(actually that is perhaps an unfair overemphasis but either way he does bring something slightly different and very excellent to the table)

i could of course just check some marcus sets sometime but the prospect of even having to flick through the usual bass bollocks is prohibitively dispiriting

"light n sweet" isn't right at all either (uk funky autofill soz), awesome fearlessly silly, brilliantly properly produced rambunctiousness more like

http://soundcloud.com/billykenny_music/billy-kenny-praise-you
http://soundcloud.com/billykenny_music/billy-kenny-around-the-world

on that note all hail billy kenny, ineffable genius

xpost now what you mean. OTOH while I haven't checked it yet this is billed as a "sexy jackin" mix which bodes well:

http://soundcloud.com/marcusnasty/sexy-jacking-rinsefm-show-2hrs

know what you mean, that is.

Billy Kenny is such a champion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5oEKokXi08

hope marcus has found this sexy belching number

I have to delete some stuff from my hard drive forever in order to free up enough space to download this Cause & Affect mix.

Peeps should I delete:

Clubroot's Clubroot; or

Genesis' Nursery Cryme (why is this even on my hard drive? I think I saw "The Musical Box" on TV while drunk); or

Thomas Barford's Salton Sea?

Help me interzone bubblers.

Feel free to suggest anything else you expect might be on my hard drive which merits deleting.

well i have to say based on art and tracklist clubroot looks FUCKING AWFUL so that for starters

actually it looks so much like my own personal "not if you were the last cd on earth" that i'm pretty tempted myself now

i mean how bad could 'birth interlude' and 'serendipity dub' be right

btw these are all things that are on my hard drive but to my knowledge I have never listened to.

...xpost actually how can I live with myself having a tune called "birth interlude" on my harddrive? DELETED.

literal xpost there.

totally offtopic but Salton Sea is actually quite good! I would listen to it and then trim it down to an EP though

definitely co-signing the Billy Kenny love.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yo_dw8HpMc
2-step jackin

http://soundcloud.com/billykenny_othermusic/ellie-goulding-lights-billy
http://soundcloud.com/billykenny_othermusic/billy-kenny-time-drum-bass-mix

further to what tim said about 'snapbacks n tattoos' and trap, most of these jackin guys do a lot of casual sonning on the side - for what theyre meant to be these tracks have absolutely got it on lock

http://soundcloud.com/jamie-jackson/jamie-jackson-casino-vol-1

^^ some time ago someone on the jackin partisans thread asked for more quality mixes, i wanted to post this but it wasn't online at the time for some reason and then i forgot about it... anyway, it's from early 2011, early days of jackin' (i guess?), so it's more electro-housey than today's fare - but pitched up enough to make it obvious it's just good ole niche done with different tools. watch out for the wicked "Straight Up" booty 32 mins in!

which is btw preceded by a "Lights On" booty that's nowhere near as good as this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29jM9sHfsVw

yeah that mix is the nonchalant nuts no doubt

remix rather

wow

Screwface - Life's a Bitch
Sanna Hartfield - Silly Nights (Phatfunk iC2 Remix)
Lorenzo - Primevil
Anhanguera ft J Dub - Beats Are So Legit (Cause N Affect Remix)
ADjectedDeleted - Mombassa (Hannah Wants & Lorenzo Remix)
StikkyLips & Lorenzo - I Want You
Outer Circle - Baby Don't Stop
Dave Fogg ft Aggz - Summertime
Stupid Fresh - Thinking Of You (LKiD Mix)
2-Bad - Jackacake
Donkie Punch & Lorenzo - One Day
Daft Jack & Lorenzo - Come On (Bass Bin Fix)
Pete Ellis & Carl Flanagan - Bring it Back

^ 13 recent belters semirandomly c&p'd from foobar playlist, google yourselves

fuck a duck i may well have just uncovered the aleatoric secret of the finest selectors

literally 100x better than if i'd put my constipated mind to it

I Want You" is de-licious

that awesome 'naughty naughty good girl' track is also by Stikkylips & Lorenzo, apparently?

aha good work

(did someone in some mix comments tell you that?)

Marcus in the sexy jackin set!

tho i may have misunderstood him, dunno, we'll see soon enough

oh lol fuck that then, i only managed to listen to half so far and he's got every single track announcement completely wrong

http://soundcloud.com/mark-krupp/mark-krupp-h-a-t-e-u-remix-cut

hey mt you'll like this i wager

found in coldcuts' last bigtunes chart, a man of fine taste

yeah that Mariah is good!

tho to be honest i'm still not able to be 100% down with most of recent 2step throwbacks, it's all well enjoyable but i don't feel like they're bringing anything *new* to the table really - that's why i love Preditah's 2step stuff so much, the snippy/blocky grime push & pull gives it a fresh feel

this isn't exactly what you've been talking about but it fits in here and it's banging. HELLO NATALIE STORM

this would fit v well with the lea-anna from earlier this year that as far as i can tell never came out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPMudGaRKjQ

i just put this on the jackin thread..

http://soundcloud.com/hannah_wants/hannah-wants-mixtape-1012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxxCz02Q9hQ

yessssssss to this

completely random wolf howl seals the deal

new C&A mix!

http://soundcloud.com/causenaffect/swagger-mix-by-cause-affect

not as good as the last one but hey, fresh tunes to chew over - obsessed with the Eurythmics-sampling one atm

Finally caught up on the last one! So ace, love the consistent rap vibe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyPMNHyhkX0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPxwT0cC3UM

so fucking killer

life & lorenzo - worth living, basically

it'd be cool if lorenzo didnt actually exist and was in fact an omnipotent pagan spirit god invoked by the jackin tribe when the bangingest tunes manifest themselves

yorkshire so it's possible tbf

love love love LOVE "Money Can't Buy It"

and this is all kinds of wonderful:

http://soundcloud.com/pete-graham/pete-graham-lorenzo-angels

yeah all the angels refixes i've found are pretty great, shadow child's might be my favourite though

http://soundcloud.com/theshadowchild/the-xx-angels-shadow-child

nothing fancy but the placid happy bounce catches the melancholy just right somehow idk

gotta give props to Shadow Child for picking up some Hannah Wants stuff for a forthcoming release on his new label, cool move

anyway

http://soundcloud.com/ts7music/tulisa-sight-of-you-ts7-remix

way too early to tell but... maybe the most gorgeous TS7 yet?

ya that is p nice but... i guess the extent to which it indicates how far (and how fast! i was nearly late) the nu-interzone has become the monoculture is almost a little saddening now

still, 'polygon' was a banger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4_IJeYR88U

this, which is indubitably my jam, i can post itt cos ilm is shit and it doesnt matter cos everything is everything now

other terribly obv defected jams i'm feeling right now include

http://youtu.be/wtEs1w4V2Ss Flashmob - Hot

http://youtu.be/6jyL0r5LBJo Nick Curly - Underground (Dennis Ferrer Remix) (Promo Edit)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yGfPUMxozg

and this! sorry balearic fans, i am shallow and love the evil-sounding (see 'trubble' > 'au seve')

t williams mix of 'latch' possibly the str8est garage thing out now that i can think of? (within any meaningful sphere of relevance that is)

that's how far we've come

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8z0yHRBrT4

mais naturellement

i cant believe you've managed to fuck up such an awsome house track.
if you have any respect at all (as you say), you would remove this video.
e9sama 3 days ago

for fuck sake fuck off and leave house alone. stick to your grime bullshit
Bun too 1 week ago

LEAVE HOUSE MUSIC ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
kerkaa 1 week ago

I REALLY LOVE THIS BEAT AS MC I LOVE THE VIBE ON IT PLEASE DONT GET SCARED IM NOT DISRESPECTING HOUSE MUSIC BUT THIS BEAT NEEDED TO BE BLESSED LOVING ALL YOUR FEED BACK POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE ITS ALL LOVE ...
Maxwell D 1 week ago

Could never ever hate a cynical maxwell d bandwagon jump.

certainly not this one, this general exploratory period's been fun but it is high time to get some vandalism going

anyways what's floating your boat these days tim?

Into that vocal of Julio. Needed a rude version for me to dig it tbh.

those people are cowards.

great thing about it is lyrically it already kinda totally works as a triumphant meta unconscious response to househead side-eyeing

DJ Q ‏@DJQ85
It's Xmas soon.. All I want is a month's supply (31 boxes) of @innocentdrinks smoothies Mango and Passion fruit flavour! Thanks twitter!

innocent drinksVerified ‏@innocentdrinks
@DJQ85 hmm, will a picture of a lion with an immaculate haircut suffice? pic.twitter.com/kILBNbRE

DJ Q @DJQ85
@innocentdrinks haha that's funny!

oh
my
god

oh whoops wrong thread

downgraded to slightly effable genius in any case

anyways what's floating your boat these days tim?

― r|t|c, Friday, November 9, 2012 8:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Too buys to do more than scratch the surface these days.

On the what we used to mean by interzone bubbler tip:

Mike Delinquent Project - Party's Over Here

On the what we apparently now mean by interzone bubbler tip:

Rita Ora - Shine Ya Light (2 Bears Remix)
Billy Kenny & Scorpz - Break The House Down
Nick Hannam - Serious
Russ Chimes - Back 2 You (Hot Since 82 Remix)
Hot Since 82 - Planes & Trains (Hot Since 82 basically have this one idea which isn't even particularly original but I love it to death)
Justin Martin & Eats Everything - Hold Tight (and yes "Trubble" definitely!)
Bryn Owen, MC Sim & Aggz - 3 Amigos
Scotty Boy & Lorenzo - No Diggity
Tee Circus - MBH (Kry Wolf Remix)
Ejeca - Horizon

http://cdn.dealbreaker.com/uploads/2012/02/drudge-siren.gif

marcus 1st: straight jackin, straight fire, way better than than last one

marcus 7th: first hour more all over the place (but fun!), second hour an excellent shorterz mix

luckily for you tim, your scratching the surface is comparable and indeed more preferable to the most beady-eyed gnostic's charts

big yes to all of that (it's practically impossible to find a bad jackin tune at the moment tbf) although i'm not so sold on the rest of the hs82 stuff (pete tong said 'planes trains' was a dj's tune so i stuck two fingers up at my laptop) (funny old world these days where i can hear more garage off tong than on 1xtra btw)

the vocal mix of the rita/2bears doesnt seem to be on sale, horridly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aQquOF2XsI

i assume i'm late and the factverse has already been all over this but: oh yes, we like

is it finally time to buy some shares in broken beat? decisions decisions on the trading floor

http://soundcloud.com/djnaughtymusic/don-dadda

ruffian riddim return from naughts, lovely to see

http://soundcloud.com/andy-jay/andy-jay-s-tee-feat-mc-shantie

skip directly to the 2step mix, bumpin

http://soundcloud.com/marc-spence/lorenzo-marc-spence-all-was

the man the myth the legend that is lorenzo proving adept at an almost redlight-ish economy/bangitude ratio

http://soundcloud.com/twilliamsmusic/t-williams-dreaming

say something interesting about this tune, no me either. goes though i agree

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amL2zoAfrsA

unsurprisingly this is also totally my gauche shit right now, it's basically exactly the same as the jamie george / burping jackin number posted upthread except with typical hot creay wannabe depeche mode stylings / miaowing instead, very appropriate

i just cannot get enough of how shameless this stuff can be -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGfHXFpgLKc

sorry if this question doesn't belong here but anyway, what kind of garage is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLwWxnjz17E

because to me it sounds like a mix between UKG and US house.

here's another example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMyfmHoVxEA

I'd been sure it was 90's new jersey/new york house before I saw it listed as UK garage on discogs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-step_garage

Pirate radio stations often programmed Garage shows for mellow moments in the weekend (Saturday morning, Sunday afternoons). It was on these pirate shows that DJs started pitching up their Garage imports (artists like Masters At Work, Kerri Chandler, Todd Edwards) to 130 bpm, giving them the extra ‘oomph’ required by the London Jungle audience. DJs favoured the dub versions of the US tracks, says Spoony of DJ collective The Dreem Teem, because “not having much vocal element, you could play the dubs faster without them sounding odd”; these near-instrumentals also left gaps for the MCs to do their stuff. Soon the DJs started making homegrown Garage tracks that sounded like their pirate shows.

and faute de mieux this exact stuff is the popular retro sound right now

I see what you mean but I still wonder why the tracks I posted are slow for some supposed ukg tracks.

also for instance if you check the b-side of that there 'allnighter' ('together') it's a rip of logic 'blues for you' (hard dub)

not sure what you really mean by "slow for some supposed ukg tracks" but your examples are from 94 and 96, still protoplasmic times for ukg more or less

ah i see i see, so it's like proto-garage or something like that.

*proto-ukg

mm

what led to you these tracks anyhow may i ask, funnily enough i see bicep have blogged the 24hrexperience but i wouldnt have thought they were your cup of tea

thought occurs that in retrospect you could kinda look at my earlier stanning for 'forward motion' (mk reverse mix) (and subsequent frustration at it seemingly being ignored) as impatience for retro-proto-garage to get on with becoming retro-proto-speed garage

well funnily enough I indeed discovered it from bicep's blog, and I love their music. I don't know what made you think I probably didn't.

i dont really know either come to think of it, can't pretend i'm super au fait with their steez besides the big hits. my mistake

lol/smh @ him still trying to make 'crack house' happen, moreso considering he seems to be completely unaware of jackin's existence, but...

http://soundcloud.com/zinc/only-for-tonight-feat-sasha

feeling this!

http://soundcloud.com/bennyrich/mr-rich-latch

^^ no masterpiece or anything but preferring it vastly to all other "Latch" remixes i've heard so far

also - assuming everyone who frequents this thread is already familiar with this? but just in case:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XINplkWAXWk

http://soundcloud.com/gav10/hannah-wants-pandora-promo

anyone have any idea what's the track about 18 mins in, the one with the same vocal sample as Roberto Rodriguez' 'I Keep Thinking of You'? bad boy tune

btw just found out Shadow Child is Dave Spoon, mind = blown

WHAT

http://soundcloud.com/lkid/stupid-fresh-thinking-of-you

cool, thanks!

the Dave Spoon thing is super omg but it does make some sense, after all he did come up with stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rihZfpU7fZE

Not sure if this has been posted, but surprising good El-B remix of Disclosure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LpPyyxMfdA

oh yeah that reminds me, mind taker who did the jackin mix of 'boiling'? feel like it's so obvious but i keep drawing a blank

hangs on "i need it noooooow" and then into a whirring drop like a pitched down agent x 'decoy'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sThivFLK_G8

loving this

hannah wants has the second hour of last weeks marcus btw (ignore the first)

it is almost solely worth it for when she puts the acappella of 'dub me good to me' over redlight's 'basscone' :O

So what are the really good Marcus sets of the past few months perchance apart from that one? I have and love the 4th October set.

ah sod it here's the clip

http://www32.zippyshare.com/v/3414965/file.html

WILL SHELL DOWN ANY RAVE

pretty certain i've posted about every marcus set i heard this year itt, it's only very recently i'm checking more often

My god.

That Redlight/Beats International mash-up is the finest thing I have ever heard.

i'm sayin!

seems that idk if i've heard 4th october, is it one of the soundcloud ones?

Yeah the sexy jacking one.

Has this amazing jacking version of "Ride On Time" you probably know it?

Among many other amazing tunes.

ah yes ok that one

http://soundcloud.com/jackin-trackz/ill-phil-lorenzo-ride-on-time

if i didnt i could have guessed

rolling 2012 UKG interzone bubblers thread

yeah tim you want this post

Okay I'm on it. And thanks for the ID.

4th oct might be jackin at its most insatiable

what's the tune (round the hour mark) that slowly and solemnly builds up amy winehouse 'stronger than me' only to drop it with perfect comic timing for 50 cent "it's your birthday!" and a dirty bass wubbler

truly a classic example of the unappreciated dry jackin wit

i mean who thinks of that, it's just brilliant

if you paid attention to mistajam r|t|c you'd have seen this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p010gygb

i do and i did, but what of it

well that's a photo of DAVE SPOON. who i almost just called BEN SPOON.

not to be confused with Spoonbender, a fictional drill 'n' bass DJ from St Petersburg

how could i not have recognised him [hangs head in shame]

haha yes the Amy/Fiddy tune is awesome, don't know what it is exactly but this appears to be the embryonic version:

http://soundcloud.com/lockhart/stronger-than-me-in-the-club

can't help you with the "Boiling" remix tho

that El-B remix has a tasty bassline but man, wtf happened to his drum programming skills, so sad

Ha, I didn't even really notice, but now that you mention it...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=560121657336857

sounds fierce pitched down, gotta admit

http://soundcloud.com/tomgarnett11/tom-garnett-the-b1g-one-mix

possibly sighting of a new stikkylips at 23mins here?

sounds like a burkie beat maybe, or lorenzo/cause & affect again judging by mr limey

i have completely forgotten if that mix is any good btw so if anyone listens thru feel free to remind me

oh and the track is great btw

"i'm kind of swanky, don't mind if you spank me" has to be the line and delivery of the year

http://stikkylips.co.uk/Boots3bw.jpg

and now having been to her website, my mundane trips to boots just got a lot more amusing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnN1bicIZU8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFE8fdBplys

can't stop won't stop

Mr. Limey's "to get us in the mood... WHY DON'T WE WATCH SOME PORN" from "Audio Erotique" also deserves a mention - perfect way to open a silly sex track

haven't checked out the Garnett mix properly yet but while we're on the subject of jackin mixes, this is the one i've been rinsing out the most lately (at least from about 14 mins in), just banger after banger after banger:

http://soundcloud.com/dj-chrisg/chris-gresswell-jack-in-the-1

and featuring more "Dub Be Good to Me" action!

1 Chris Gresswell - Bombs Over Capitals
2 Handi - I Found You
3 Trak 2 - Never Let You Go
4 Scotty Boy & Lorenzo - No Diggity
5 ChinZz - The Way I Feel
6 Stikkylips & Lorenzo - Naughty Naughty Good Girl
7 Scotty Boy & Lorenzo - Coke Diet
8 Gaz Tee - Good Love
9 Bdot & Lorenzo - Money Can't Buy It
10 ?? - Friends
11 Tom Ainley, Chris Gresswell & Sweet Beat - Are You Ready
12 Bdot & Lorenzo - Running Up That Hill
13 Donkie Punch & Lorenzo - Lil Method
14 Ill Phil & MC Sim - Away We Go
15 Cause & Affect - Let's Go Back
16 Bryn Owen, Aggz & MC Sim - 3 Amigos
17 ?? - Love Deep
18 Calum John - She's A Bitch

hah there's about 15 'dub be good to me' refixes on bigtunes and none of them are the one

http://soundcloud.com/gaztrigg/friends-gaz-tee-chinzz

hahahahahaha the new certified jackin graphic

Sick track, but why make the picture that? Kills it , makes house music listeners look like wankers
rorykill 22 hours ago

haha yeah you can only applaud cj's commitment to sorting the wheat from the listener chaff

might pass on buying the t-shirt tho mind

http://addons.videolan.org/content/show.php/+Youtube+playlist+importer?content=149909

apols in advance for the nerdery btw but this shit is tite as fuck

whack cj uploads in there and a digger's life is but a dream

http://soundcloud.com/hannah_wants/hannah-wants-mixtape-1212

on first listen i'd say that... basically everyone needs to hear this?

hw's sets seem to be getting ruder and ruffer and more crossbred, liking it

whose is the tasty 'right before my eyes' refix after the hour mark?

was wondering the same thing myself! ______ & Lorenzo probably

and now i'm listening to this:

http://podcast.dgen.net/rinsefm/podcast/ShadowChild291112.mp3

rather enjoyable so far, second half hour had some ridiculously ott swirly bits

man has admirable discipline for sure, managed to spin for whole 57 minutes without a single Brandy acapella!

haha, downloading now

just ftr cause & affect (and shorterz idk?) with jamie george on the mic have the second half of this week's marcus but i wouldnt say it was overly essential listening

want an id for this first whiteboy dub calypso track on the shadow child set already

hey guys, serious ?:

what is an interzone bubbler?

ukg interzone - the space where uk garage mingles with other club music du jour and vice versa

bubbler - dance tune with a bubbly, carribean-like feel... or something like that, there are probably like twenty smarter and better worded Finney posts on the matter ;)

yeah functionally speaking this is basically just like a catch-all thread for uk garage and other dance musics that come (or are made to come) within its orbit

subtextwise i guess maybe you could say there's a small scale disco-not-disco moment going on right now (with a dj called dj q as its larry levan) with this stuff and the idea of a bubbler and its bubbling is a valiant attempt to theorise the ties that loosely but indubitably bind various stuff together

thing is we'd reject a solid rubric for it anyway so it's kind of a we know it when we hear it on the fly thing idk

Interzone bubbling is one of those attempts: the effort to take the temperature of the age without instruments and in a situation in which we are not even sure there is so coherent a thing as an "age," or zeitgeist or "system" or "current situation" any longer. Interzone bubbling is then dialectical at least insofar as it has the wit to seize on that very uncertainty as its first clue and to hold to its Ariadne's thread on its way through what may not turn out to be a labyrinth at all, but a gulag or perhaps a shopping mall.

^ before being fatally sb'd for repeatedly just posting "hold tight my bassline soldiers you know the koo" noted raver frederic jameson had this to say on the matter

thanks gents! :)

keep on bubbling, i will read more of the thread.

of course, my first thought was joy division + 7-up

the other ukg superword seems to be "skankin" - but i'm not up on its genealogy

want an id for this first whiteboy dub calypso track on the shadow child set already

― r|t|c, Friday, 30 November 2012 21:44 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

http://soundcloud.com/theshadowchild/the-other-tribe-shadow-child

http://soundcloud.com/paulsirrell/hard-fi-hard-to-beat-paul

now THAT's how you flip a landfill anthem

Wow that's great.

new DisclosureLegitimate Scandal! predictably i'm into it

http://soundcloud.com/midastmusic2012/legitimate-scandal-chris

http://soundcloud.com/paulsirrell/hard-fi-hard-to-beat-paul

now THAT's how you flip a landfill anthem

― Mind Taker, Saturday, 1 December 2012 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol, that's really good - anything can be rescued..

also since i don't think it has been mentioned this here is a boss tune

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLVa000Jv1s

I was playing the Marcus sexy jacking set in the car and the intro to "Away We Go" started up and I turned to Matt and said "LISTEN" and then Marcus announced "LISTEN".

wow that hard fi remix. trying to imagine the circumstances leading to its birth

dj ez on the boiler room right now

http://boilerroom.tv/live/

some jackin bits of interest:

https://soundcloud.com/sweetbeatofficial/sweet-beat-chemistry-original

with so many monkeys sampling Aaliyah one was at some point bound to capture at least some of that "Stone Cold" magic, and here it is

https://soundcloud.com/thomas-graham/evertyhing-thomas-graham-retro

lovely deep organ diva stuff

https://soundcloud.com/tomgarnett11/tom-garnett-lorenzo-moving
https://soundcloud.com/dj-chrisg/chris-gresswell-hayely-s-deep

now that these our out of the way imo the only big recent omnipresent tune that remains to be id'd is the 'what must i do to prove to you' one

https://soundcloud.com/paul-lawrence/em-katz-dont-leave-me

coming up with a gonzo groove like this and then knowing fuck all what to do with should be punishable by law :(

https://soundcloud.com/burkieukbassproducer/burkie-l-o-v-e-gordons-a

rtc i guess this is the "Boiling" refix you were asking for upthread? love it

https://soundcloud.com/causenaffect/cause-affect-kamikaze

guilty pleasure!

https://soundcloud.com/djmartjnr/dub-be-good-to-me-to-me-samplehhh

another fit lil skanker to add to the "Dub Be Good to Me" pile... this is an early version btw, the finished article is rather inferior :\

https://soundcloud.com/dave_fogg/dave-fogg-dont-make-me-wait

not the first tune by this guy that i've enjoyed, gonna be keeping an eye on him

https://soundcloud.com/craig-cornes/ste-haley-craig-cornes-i-am

neato free electroniche dl

err proper link to the third to last one, just for everyone to hear how many hairs i'm splitting:

https://soundcloud.com/djmartjnr/just-be-good-to-mart

never would have expected dj martian to go in that direction

this shitty awards season got me all fucked up and lazy, should have taken 6 months off like last time. havent listened to any proper music in ages

http://soundcloud.com/ryanblyth/dawn-chorus-huddersfield-live

last thing i heard was this, can't recall much other than omg cypress hill and a solemn blood vow never to delete it off the ipod

http://soundcloud.com/ryanjamesmusic/ryan-james-swaggerr-volume-17

also this, nice and solid

last night i had a good time though
dont think i should have had the last line though
half past eight i was totally sober
come half past nine i was totally blind though

^ keeps popping into my head at the most mundane moments

could almost say it's indicative of a kind of pathological morbidity to jackin and jackin appreciation that's fundamentally inexpressible to the casual browser

like the best drops have a real half-smile zombified relish wit to them, this sui generis x-factor that garage or bassline or big beat or whatever u care to throw in never had

but eh idk

Yah i hear that.

Same vibe, I think, that results in jackin remixes of tunes like Tina Arena's "Chains" - jackin' fucks with adult contempo because it can turn the smallness of the latter's gestures to its own dubious ends.

maybe bassline kinda had it actually? but this is a mutation still

Bassline more rictus than half-smile surely?

right right, sugar-addled

What's amazing to me is that i still feel like i'm getting jackin', like it's still opening up and revealing its secrets to me. Truly a mary poppins' travel bag of music sub-genres.

http://soundcloud.com/tomgarnett11/tom-garnett-lorenzo-moving

yesss thisssssss finally

actually a perfect example of what we're saying, the build and vocal is pure basslineage but then it can't resist forcing joyous BABYBABYBABYBABYBAY right up against you on its own until suddenly the face falls and... "-by". [cue deliberately disorientating loping drop]

i mean it sux to reuse a coinage but that whole amniotic suspension thing works even better with jackin than it did funky, it's always employing these little strategies to keep you inside it and never break free with pure release

woah that tune's amazing

now that these our out of the way imo the only big recent omnipresent tune that remains to be id'd is the 'what must i do to prove to you' one

http://soundcloud.com/alexparkin/alex-parkin-prove2u

yessss!

haha re:zombiefication there's a new Azari & III refix by Ill Phil & co called HUNGRY FOR THE POWDER

also, this just in:

https://soundcloud.com/billykenny_music/billy-kenny-romeo-free

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHn7uXYStQQ

yeah i did think the original sounded a bit laid back...

http://www.mixcloud.com/bennybrassic/lorenzo-mix/

This is awesome Benny!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXCccR_9RbY

haha looks like someone needed something that can be mixed into "Latch" :)

great mix Benny!!

http://soundcloud.com/tomgarnett11/tom-garnett-lorenzo-trouble

this is that pure gnostic lick

there they sat in the studio, and suddenly realised "ok but why not just -"

what else but jackin would ever dare

http://soundcloud.com/the_lost_boys-1/basscone-vs-opus-3-128-sample

keep em coming lads :)

this might sound stupid but where can I get the digital version (if any) of the releases in this thread?

as opposed to..?

bigtunesmp3 for jackin, juno for garage

heard "Trouble" first without reading any info about it, boy was i not expecting *that* sample

As opposed to vinyl I guess or white label. I can't find those Lorenzo tracks anywhere.

I don't think those last couple of lorenzos are out yet, but yeah bigtunesmp3 is the place for jackin

These are my current faves, love the ones with hip hop acapellas

Rubber no doubt - Chris Gresswell & Sweet Beat
http://youtu.be/ThoBXaKVk9I

When i move - Cavna & Chris Gresswell
http://youtu.be/Bc8mjcfGTeo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX2r0tF2Iso

BRAND NEW ORIGINAL TRACK FROM MESELF AND GRESSWELL KEEPING THAT HIP-HOP FLAVOUR WITH THAT BEEFY JACKIN' DROP WE ALL KNOW FAR TOO WELL! :)

wahey!!!! [creates super abstract stygian soundworld]

my impression was that none of this stuff was available on vinyl, like we just don't live in that sort of world any more

http://soundcloud.com/scottybarnard

scotty's mildly unhinged, chop sui generis mixes are worth investigation btw

watched DREDD 3D over the holidays, got me thinking about jackin naturally

the 2000ad throughline into suburban base hardcore sensibility maps itself quite well onto jackin - cannier and more modern than the archetypal thrill-power (maybe more kinda hewlett/tank girl?) but you still have that ezquerrian nutty diy crude near-grotesque brit energy going on in its raw atmospheric linearts, black humoured sardonic absurdities & gleeful violence & such

also same marriage of graf/hiphop culture and rock art cover abandon, not necessarily in a purely visual sense of course although sleepin is cheatin are a little merchandise economy i suppose, and then there's the certified jackin presentational semiotics

is yorkshire the new romford?

you want me to rewrite this clearer but how about i don't

http://soundcloud.com/marc-spence/lorenzo-marc-spence-all-was

the man the myth the legend that is lorenzo proving adept at an almost redlight-ish economy/bangitude ratio

― r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:44 (1 month ago) Bookmark

you are all sleeping on this absolute monster btw

http://soundcloud.com/causenaffect/cause-affect-ft-zahra-palmer

ah how casually great is this lil excursion

it only seems a trifle unitl you realise some spend careers trying hard and failing hard to even approach the same joie de vivre

be sure to get familiar with everything cause n affect from the last month posted on there, all of it is fab even in sketch form

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZSrF4SgpQ4

yuh huh

Totally, loads to listen to, really appreciate this.

Moving Closer is incredible. xp

http://addons.videolan.org/content/show.php/+Youtube+playlist+importer?content=149909

apols in advance for the nerdery btw but this shit is tite as fuck

whack cj uploads (link) in there and a digger's life is but a dream

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:51 (1 month ago) Bookmark

can i just reiterate if anyone wants to get up to speed on individual tracks this is the way to go, 100 tracks straight in one playlist ta da your day is sorted minimum fuss

http://soundcloud.com/amine-edge/stikkylips-lorenzo-model-demo

despite its slightness i feel duty bound to to alert mindtaker to this

move over cassie the stikkylips fan club is in full effect

be sure to get familiar with everything cause n affect from the last month posted on there

yeah definitely, as i've said i'm especially keen on "Kamikaze" - it does offer a glimpse into a nightmarish alternate universe where jackin gets discovered and swamped by disenchanted dnb/fidget/breaks/etc dudes but for now it's just another great entry in the secret 'Beavis & Butthead do house' canon

know about "Model", didn't bring it up due to its slightness :\

http://soundcloud.com/ryanjamesmusic/ryan-james-swaggerr-volume-17

this is tops btw - rtc maybe you know what's the "feel the energy rush" track 10 mins in?

i do not :(

difficult one to place too, "feel the energy rush" is an old sample, not quite sure if it's in the bigtunes nexus even

it does offer a glimpse into a nightmarish alternate universe where jackin gets discovered and swamped by disenchanted dnb/fidget/breaks/etc dudes

― Mind Taker, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:52 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

funky hedz will know this as "sunday roasting" and yes the likelihood of jackin succumbing to it in the next year has def been on my mind

http://soundcloud.com/bekai-productions

particularly occurred to me listening to brent kilner's new stuff, check the dread tag "heavy jackin" :O

http://soundcloud.com/bekai-productions/brent-kilner-jordan-hey-sick

although this one is actually pretty tuff tbh

might even release it on my daringly innovative new label that i shall call "slight nugs" what do yall think

we should make sure to keep an eye on jackin market penetrations

chris gresswell is signed to mike delinquent's new label

hannah wants 'none a dem'/'dappy' coming out on shadow child and kry wolf's new label

uh dj naughty playing linkoban/shorterz, think skream & benga might have played some bits too

anything else

"Naughty Good Girl" and "Model" to be released on Amine Edge's new label

Ben UFO filched 'none a dem' off the dissensus thread, didn't seem very interested in any the other stuff posted on there though. That sort of attitude mystifies me tbh. Like, thats a killer track but what makes it stand out from all the other countless bangers Lorenzo's been involved in?

btw Isn't Naughty good girl already out? Or at least leaked, I've got a copy of it anyway but honestly don't remember where I got it.

this just in
https://soundcloud.com/mikedelinquent/bass-education-vol-1-mixed-by

"None a Them" has a trippy tech-house feel that's not really commonplace in jackin, not surprising imho that a dj into that sort of thing could fall for it while being completely indifferent to "No Diggity", "Coke Diet" et al

"Naughty Good Girl" has been available for a few months now but only on bigtunes and is afaik the first jackin tune to get a re-release on a proper label (with a physical release too, maybe, perhaps?)... don't have a grasp on the label politics of jackin tbh but what i did notice is that bigtunes doesn't have a label category *at all*, it's all non-label releases and stuff that gets released on labels is usually sold elsewhere (Sleepin' Is Cheatin' catalog available on beatport but not on bigtunes for example)

"Erotic City" is fab, Lorenzo + Tom Something seems to be the winning combination atm

I shouldn't love "Coke Diet" as much as I do...

[hessle abuse redacted]

can't say i have too much time for mike delinquent as a dj (obv much love for productions) and that mix shares the vaguely nicheless and frankly remedial air of so much of the ldn urban interpretation right now

afaik anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBPF6ZV1NXs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMvpgznbnnc

time for a moda interlude bitches. fiyahh

I'm more surprised than anything.. I absolutely loathed the N.E.R.D. song. "Coke Diet" is ridiculous though.

Also enjoying right now:
everything Hannam does as Neeko (please release this stuff!)
Chris Gresswell - Deep Love
Hannah Wants & Lorenzo - I Still Love You (wow!)
Brent Kilner - Narcotics
Paul Lawrence - Everywhere I Turn
Billy Kenny's Diamond Rings refix.
Nick Hannam - Serious
Cavna & Chris Gresswell - When I Move

not sure i really get the big dealio with the neeko stuff, hannam distinguishes himself on so many fronts but not so much with the regular house imo

also you subconsciously think the alias is gonna invoke some nookie or more fire crew vibes but no

"Naughty Good Girl" and "Model" to be released on Amine Edge's new label

― Mind Taker, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 14:43 (Yesterday) Bookmark

ah, the french, the eternal question... do they count. 'goodie goodies' was a fun jam last year, sorta funny they've gone for 'naughty good girl' in that respect with all the trap rap jackin leanings around

props to me for putting a load of bouncy rap house on my interzone moodboard ages ago btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deKWO3IGtpc

my #1 Amine jam

You'd consider his Neeko stuff regular house?

I've only heard three of his Neeko productions (Lie to You, People Outside, and the Biggie sampling one). Part of why I like them so much is that to my ears they have a rougher, more nervous, rushy energy than some of his other productions. That, and I'm a genuine sucker for some of the acapellas that he's using.

regular as in not far dissimilar to popular deep-not-deep hot creay/maceo plex/whatever stuff yeah

I can see that, yeah. I can hear a lot of that sound in jackin overall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv_O_JrCkDE

it's fun to look at it from the pseudo other side as well, like i mean if i said to you caddyshack sample + zombie drop then jackin would very much be your guess

but yeah, jackin protagonists' unusual fluency (as dj/producer/consumers) in general dance dialects gives a simultaneous precariousness and surety to the music that keeps it massively engaging

http://soundcloud.com/causenaffect/cause-affect-ft-zahra-palmer

ah how casually great is this lil excursion

it only seems a trifle unitl you realise some spend careers trying hard and failing hard to even approach the same joie de vivre

― r|t|c, Tuesday, January 8, 2013 1:21 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

It took me literally 3 seconds to fall in love with this. Those strings!

yeah it really reminds me of like trc, screama, emvee etc breezily switching codes from bassline to funky to wherever else and back

maybe i'm belabouring the point but it gives a real sense of a pure elemental musical fluidity, something that kind of transcends the more studious evolutions of historical nuum-y ldn stuff idk

i guess this is what i mean about jackin's precariousness/assurance binary, they're not beholden to following a scenius muse like the funky lot were, they can and will make whatever they feel the need to, whatever the moment demands, and because their only concern is with what works there's the necessary guarantee of expert calibration... but at some point the jackin tribe will just shrug and abruptly melt off into the next vibe

the ldn scene in comparison is a lot more tidal and right now you could say it's still in an ebb phase, still absorbing. so you'll get all these uninspired genre-aping wannabe tech-house mixes doomed to forever be pathetically poor relations, or mishmash mixes with 'au seve' bunged in somewhere that don't quite grasp anything yet, or whatever

rambling-ass generalisations itt

http://soundcloud.com/scottmusik/djscottie_d-down-funkfactory

like remember scotty d? awesome uk funky scotty d? yeah this is him now...

In Thailand so not really keeping up with the links but that rambling ass post feels
OTM.

One of the problems with LDN is that it feels much more self-conscious at the moment, everyone tries to be a 'proper' (insert) for better or (almost always) worse.

if you can get funkystepz 'lovers' for xmas why couldnt i have screama / phe phe 'never say bye' :(

Still a classic!

woah that Scotty D is very much in the vein of all that Ave a Word/Audio Rehab/shape cutting/shuffling stuff thats about. It suits him though. I mean stuff like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLYU6HkBi2w&feature=youtu.be

I mean
http://youtu.be/OLYU6HkBi2w

Cause and Affect do Todd Edwards, love it
http://youtu.be/wd2lSQoWDKw

lol and not two days later what do i see but dissensus man dem bugging out over a brent kilner sunday roaster

http://i.imgur.com/K7URS.png

haha maybe it is a bit like that but I like that one, wouldn't want all jackin to sound like that though. Who is this brent kilner chap anyway?

dunno, just some guy i think

it's not a bad tune, none of his are, but how many times does techstep have to happen? vigilance people

eh it always happens sooner or later no matter how vigilant any one of us is, i'm just enjoying it all while i can

"Jeans" is wonderful! not much about its cut-up vox screams 'Todd' to me but otoh it's another great C&A one-off - i've heard a fair amount of trad jackin' house and yet i couldn't name a single tune that brings the glitz and friskiness of 2step in a remotely similar fashion

http://soundcloud.com/tuffculture

on a ukg tip i'm liking this guy's stuff a fair bit lately, little bits of artful/mj/todd/sunship in there but feeling a lot fresher than the usual revival business imo

http://soundcloud.com/output-production/aluna-george-ykyli-b15-project

alunageorge on the r&b thread made me get back into this b15 project remix of them from a year or so ago, so effortlessly vintage wonderful and underrated even in these striated times! did they really just pop back up for this thing after a decade and disappear again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6ofj3gqfY8

Kinda miss that fucked up swing from this thread early on.

New DJ Q is wicked too

https://soundcloud.com/localactionrecords/dj-q-trust-again-feat-louise

Karl ‘Tuff Enuff’ Brown remix is a beast as well.

yeah anywhere around i can hear those remixes? i tried and failed

only really find uttu etc worthwhile when q's articulating tbh, don't really bubble on their own. mista men i p much don't care for no matter who's selecting

by which i basically mean it's alright having a fucked up swing if youre a regular swing ninja too, otherwise step off

jesus christ can i just exclaim for the record how much ridiculously great music is getting produced these days??!

indeed :)

what are your fave bubblers atm Tracer?

https://soundcloud.com/ryanblyth/dawn-chorus-huddersfield-live

love the segue from "Snatch Ma Crops" to "Money Cant Buy It", like a merry theme-park ride taking a detour to the Spooky House of Horrors

http://soundcloud.com/bekai-productions/brent-kilner-too-bad-vip

apology accepted

Wow I like this thread, people are talking about jackin and not parring it.
Lots of really good recommendations here!

Love the hip hop vocal, and love how the bass line cycles through like 3 or 4 different synth sounds as it plays through, sawtooths, wobbles, warps, donks.
http://www.bigtunesmp3.co.uk/tunes/we-are-hipsters-original-mix-by-jackin-house-mafia-jhm-2/#3

Anyone listened to Fuck Jack's House by aggz yet?
http://aggz.bandcamp.com/
really good to hear his stuff compiled together, Licky was one of the first tracks I discovered through bigtunesmp3. pure 'ardcore in both the cheesy/kiddy sing along chorus, and the breaks. The bass is so /gloopy/